The Ringer NFL Show - Waiver Wire Pickups for Week 16

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

SHOWDOWN TIME! Must-add players at each position ahead of NFL Week 16 (2:30). “You guys want to do some emails?” (40:13) Check out The Ringer’s Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings, waiver wire pickups, and much more! RB: Justice Hill (Ravens), Chase Brown (Bengals), and Roschon Johnson (Bears) (2:54) WR: Joshua Palmer (Chargers), Noah Brown (Texans), and Curtis Samuel (Commanders) (12:11) TE: Tucker Kraft (Packers), Cade Otton (Buccaneers), and Hunter Henry (Patriots) (24:07) QB: Jake Browning (Bengals), Joe Flacco (Browns), Gardner Minshew (Colts) (32:43) D/ST: Indianapolis Colts, Houston Texans, Detroit Lions, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Cincinnati Bengals, and Chicago Bears (34:29) Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens and Jack Sanders Producer: Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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TK. Yeah. You feel in a stagic? Nostalgiaic? It's weird. It's weird that the season's almost over. I know that that's like the most cliché thing to say ever, but it is very weird.

This season flew by. I can't believe the playoffs already here. I can't believe that our time together is coming to a close. No, it's not. Actually, we're going to keep doing this forever. Yeah. So, FYI, everyone listening.

Terrible communication. No, I was doing a segue. So for communication purposes, next week, unfortunately, next Monday is Christmas Day. So we will have a Sunday recap, Monday waivers trivia combo platter for you coming on Tuesday. It's Tuesday, midday, it's not perfect. I don't waivers go through

Tuesday night, but we will get you our waiver show. I mean, that will only matter for the championship people, and I guess people playing for third. And if you've made the championship, I would assume that you, you're somebody who's on top of your waivers anyway. So.

Well, don't forget how the people last place who need to not come in dead last, you know what I mean? That's true. The people's... Isn't that ship already sailed? No. If you do a loser's bracket.

Oh, okay. Gotcha. Which is what we do in my league. We have a toilet bowl. Yeah, I guess that's worse. If you win, you're eliminated. If you lose, you go into the next round. And it's the final loser.

It's the ultimate. And also, please keep in mind. We are covering the entire NFL off season here. We got Draft show. D.K. Solek comes on. we just got the draft show rolling. We cover the draft, cover the offseason,

cover trades, cover coaches getting fired, cover all this stuff. Stick with us here and also Sunday recaps through the Super Bowl. Don't touch that dial. Exactly. So we're going to go through. Mustad players entering week 16.

And here's how this works. We're going to do a trivia question to determine a fake waiver order before each position. And then we're going to pick our favorite guy at each position. One, two, three, because that's how we always should have done this.

Not that complicated. You'll figure it out if you're confused. Ringer, although it confused us for years. Ringer Fantasy Football, Gmail.com, emails trivia questions, although we only have somebody left, so we'll have to figure out something for the draft show. I guess we just go ahead to it.

Running back, we still don't know the right, but just, yeah, Craig, we got a running back showdown time. Questions from David? David. All right. It is the, it is David's running back showdown time.

We're still working out of the cakes. I don't know. We only had a whole year. Just explore the studio space with that. Yeah, I'm feeling it out. I'm, I'm got, trying to get the creative juices flowing. So on yesterday's show, we discussed how I was doing a search related to Derek Henry

and I found this guy had negative 50 rushing yards in 1938. And it turned out, I was like, who's this guy? And it turned out he was a Supreme Court justice. His name was Whizzer White. And he lived quite a life. So Dave's question is, how many opinions did Justice Byron Whizor White write while on the United States Supreme Court? hint he was on the bench for 31 years.

Jeez. Which again, just to recap, this guy I literally just was interested in because he had negative 50 yards. And I'm just trying to figure out how he did that. And then it turned out he almost won the Heisman, drafted fourth Rhodes Scholar, served in the Pacific in World War II, won two brown stars that became the Supreme Court Justice. Also led the league in Russian twice. Also, his name was Whizzer. Well, his name was Byron.

No. Well, now on pro football reference, it's Whizzer. So here's my question. It's opinions written. How many opinions does a justice write each year? Because do they get to write the opinion? It's like don't they kind of sign their name on like someone writes in a like the dissenting opinion and someone writes the majority? Like does that count as writing your own opinion?

I mean this when I say I genuinely have no fucking clue what number to pick here. I couldn't know less about Supreme Court justices and opinions. I have my answer. DK Okay Sorry 3, 2, 1 500

Oh I said 500 Oh, did you Oh so did I I just wanted to be like In the ballpark with you guys I just wanted to be close 30 years I said 10 a year

I don't know I don't know Yeah I feel like it's probably more like Yeah I don't know What do we think What's the answer Well wait how we do this Craig got

Tybreaker DK Why we did this to clear everything up Do you want 501 or 499 I'll take high I guess. Okay. All right. The answer is 994.

Nine, almost a thousand. Wow. They're banging out 30 a year? That's pretty, wow. Look a wizard. 30 a year. That's like how many rushing yards he had in 1938, I guess. He wrote all those. Wow. Okay. Well, you have clerks for that. He didn't write at him. Right, right. He dictated.

Running back is kind of bleak this week. There's not a lot going on. I don't think there's anybody that's like the clear choice. I think needless to say, just as a caveat, if for whatever reason Tai Chi and the running back for the Vikings is out there, go get him. We're going to assume that he's not available. But if he were, like, that's 100% the person to grab. I mean, he might be for someone out there.

He's 45% Russia ship on ESPN, which is wild to me. But yeah, he's like, I think he's going to remain the starter and or at least in a heavy rotation, even when Alexander Madison comes back. So to me, he would be the number one priority by far. I think these percentages stay low towards the end of the season because a lot of people give up. Right.

I was going to say, it's so weird for us to try to use this as a metric, because when I go through and I try to figure out, you know, which of these guys are viable, I always see like Nick Chubb. Nick Chubbs on 23% of rosters. Right. And I'm like, hmm, I don't know. I don't know. J.K. Dobbins is still out here in a fifth of teams. I'm like, I don't know. Sometimes it's nice to throw an injured guy in the IR slot, just if you're in contention for a ring to see you can get your guy a ring. Yeah.

That's true. I think Craig was really right on that. There's just a bunch of dudes this week. I don't really know who the clear cut number one is. I'm going to go with Justice Hill for the Ravens. Keaton Mitchell, unfortunately, the explosive rookie for the Ravens, tore his ACL on Sunday night football. It was a brutal-looking injury.

He's going to be done for the season. And that leaves what was a three-person rotation at running back for the Ravens now, two-person probably going forward with Gus Edwards and Justice Hill. So I'm going to go with Justice Hill. I don't feel great about like his total upside, but I think he's going to get more work now. He's already doing all the two-minute drill stuff and a lot of the third down stuff for them.

And so, you know, he'll have at least a bigger opportunity going forward. So I'm going to go with, there's a bunch of guys this week that we have to throw out that are potential starters if the current starter doesn't return from injury. So basically like Samir White on the Raiders, Josh Jacobs, we don't know if he's coming back this week. Clyde Edwards Hilaire on the Chiefs. Pacheco is expected to come back, according to Andy Reid.

And then Zach Moss hurt his arm running back for the Colts. And he was replaced by Trey Sermon and Tyler Goodson. It appears as though Zach Moss is going to be coming back. So I'm assuming Josh Jacobs... Also, Taylor might be back. Right, and Taylor. Yeah. So I'm assuming Moss, Josh Jacobs, and McKinnon,

or and Isaiah Pachecoe are all coming back. So in that case, this might seem like a shot in the dark. I don't want to touch Isaiah Spiller. I don't want anything to do with Chargers. I kind of want to go with Chase Bruchner. Brown on the Bengals. That's what I would do. That's exactly what I would do, Craig.

I thought about maybe picking him as my number one guy. I just think he's so explosive. Yeah. I feel like a week or two down the line, he could be like their number one guy. Yeah, you know, he's one of the, like the Bengals are actually serviceable with Jake Browning. Like I know I'm usually against backup or like shitty teams with backup quarterbacks and drafting their running backs. But the Bengals are pretty solid with Browning. And Chase Brown has had pretty much 10 touches each of the last three weeks.

He tied Mixin and touches last week. And he's clearly the most explosive running back on the team. They're playing Pittsburgh who isn't doing anything anymore defensively. So, yeah, I kind of like Chase Brown, what he brings to the table from like an explosive standpoint. Got the juice. Got the juice. I think you summarized that really well, Craig, because, I mean, I would take Clyde Edwards-Alair over Jared McKinnon because Clyde had 17 touches for 100 yards and one Moss touchdown. But you're right that if Pacheco comes back, you could play Clyde, but that just seems kind of crazy.

Part of me thinks that Clyde will be usable just because Pacheco's coming off the shoulder surgery. and are they really going to throw them back in, but I'm not going to bank on it, like, Gladys, whatever. And you're right, it's like Zemir White, if Josh Jacobs is back, has no role, but at Jacques Jacobs is out, Samir White's clearly the pickier. So really, unfortunately, the very not sexy answers,

you probably have to pay attention to these really weird my new practice reports on, like, freaking Josh Jacobs and stuff. And you're right about the Colts, too, where it's like if Jonathan Taylor comes back, I have no interest in Trey Sermann who had 17 carries this week. But if Josh, John Taylor, and Zach Moss are out, then Trey Sermin would be the guy to pick.

But I'm not going to bet that Jonathan Taylor and Zach Moss are both out because of either one of the... It just, it sucks. But I think that that's the right pick given all the uncertainty. So with all that said, those are the two guys I would...

I don't know, man. This is tough. I think that I might pick Rochon Johnson for the Bears just because he like... No, that sucks. No. I... I'm playing the Cardinals. I had that. He was my third guy. Yeah, you could take Rochon Johnson. I think I can't stress enough that, like, if

Josh Jacobs is out, of Muir White's the guy. But you're right that if Josh Jacobs plays and Jonathan Taylor comes back, which I think will, and Pacheco's back, then, yeah, it's like, I'm trying to think about going to war with, like, Rocheon Johnson, and that just sounds terrible. But you could do that for the Bears. He plays and they're playing the, like the Browns, sorry, the Bears look bad this week because they're playing the Browns.

But realistically, I think Rochon's good. I actually think Deonti form is kind of okay. Now, the Bears' offense is no longer disgusting. And Rochon's fine. It's not like, you know, going to get your heart in a tizzy. But I feel like the Bears running back rotation is just. just like a crap shoot, though. I never know really what to expect from them.

Man, what happened in Khalil Herbert? I feel like he had a lot of juice last year, and now he's just kind of been relegated to just an average guy now. He's really bad at pass pro. I think that's like honestly one of his big issues is, and I think in this last game, I remember he even contributed to Justin Fields, like getting hit or hurried on a play that he basically had a guy

streaking down the sideline late in the game, and the pressure got there so quickly that Justin Fields had to get rid of it really quickly, and like overthrew his target. And I remember thinking, oh, well, that was the pass-po thing. That's like kind of one of the big knocks on Cleo Herbert. So I think that's why you typically see Rocheon Johnson, who's a rookie playing so much because he's good at pass-pro.

But then like the game, like the game before last game, Deonté Foreman led the way by like a lot. It's just like I never really know how they're planning on doing this rotation. The other person I want to throw out there, which, Derek McKinnon, I don't even love the idea of Thorogam. He had seven touches for 30 yards, but bailed himself out the touchdown. and that's kind of all you're hoping for.

Well, he did score like eight touchdowns in the final, like, how many games last year. Maybe I'll get hot again. I think the overall theme, though, is if Jonathan Taylor and Pacheco and Josh Jacobsel return, we probably don't have the overall need in your league to play these guys, frankly. You know what I'm saying? Like, if all those guys return, then your answers are probably already on your team. The answer is probably just get a pick up their handcuff for, like, your start guys.

You could also do Tyler L.GRO on the Falcons because he had 14 carries this week, but frankly, the idea of trusting Arthur's, Smith to do anything and play backup running back. I can't do that either. Wide receiver. Craig, this question's from Jessica. Jessica. Wow, it is the Jessica wide receiver. It is, wait, no, it's Jessica's got to make a possessive. It's Jessica's wide receiver showdown time. Is that better? I like making it possessive. I like that as well. Let's give people a sense of ownership. I think so the other really important journalism we were doing on Sunday show, We're talking about the 1927 Dayton Triangles.

Sure. A sneeze at you. Jessica wrote in 1904, the Dayton. Jessica. Jessica. The Dayton Police Department wrote the first ever speeding ticket to Harry Myers. How fast was he going for the first ever speeding ticket? It was the first ever speeding ticket?

Wow. In a car. Like in a car. Maybe horses. I don't know. Oh, man. How fast is the first speeding ticket? So wait.

This was like the 20s or the 30s? What year was this? 1904. Oh, 1904. Damn. What were the... Okay, I got a number. Wait.

What would it be? When was the first car invented? I don't know. 1800s? I honestly... I thought it was like 19... I thought it was like right around that. I guess that would make sense.

I thought it was like maybe even a tick later than 1904. But maybe I'm wrong. They're trying to think of their first ever speeding to you. Are we sure it was in a car? Yeah. say anything about a car. Was this a horse-drawn speeding ticket? Yo, it was in a car.

If it was not a car, I'm going to, like, pick it. I have a bone to pick a chest. I just didn't realize we had motorized vehicles in 1904, but maybe I'm a moron. All right. I guess I got a number. Yeah. All right.

Three, two, one. 35. Oh, 15, 30 and 35. I got a speed ticket for going 31, like three weeks ago in a DC tunnel. What would the speed limit have to be for you to get a ticket for going 15. 10?

Dude, I don't know. It's like, this is 120 years ago. You think that 35 implies the speed limit's 30. Craig, the speeding ticket was for two bits. That's how much you had to pay. Hey, Penny. The answer is 12, 12 miles an hour. God damn it.

12. 12. Oh, my God. 12 miles an hour. You could go 12 miles an hour just by like idle. You can run that fast. The world moves faster these days, guys. You might as well just run to your destination

and you won't get a ticket in 19-0-40. By the way, the first car, the first modern car was invented in 1886. 86. Yeah, that makes sense. So I think I win. You do. I'm going to add insult to injury for you guys.

Number one receiver. If I had to plug in play receiver this week, I'm actually going to pick Josh Palm a receiver. Wow, the goat. Palmer. Look, he's good. Simple as that. The charge who were obliterated by the Raiders, part of me feels weird.

I feel like Palmer's still banged up. Herbert's out for the season. Keenan Allen was out. Brain and Staley got fired. It's all chaos. I know. I'm surprised you're doing this. Easton Stick against the bills?

That's the thing. Easton Stick. It's all bad. There's so many variables here. Yeah, this could be dumb. But I just kind of think I don't love this. And honestly, there are only two people this week that I actually could think I would throw in a

line up with any sense of like, oh, maybe that won't be a disaster. And this is one of the two. So go on Josh Palmer. I like it. I'm second because I was 30 miles an hour. I was way off. I'm going to go with Noel Brown for the Texans who 11 targets, eight catches, 82 yards on a touchdown, got rid of the whole zero catches thing that he had had the last

two games before that. It sounds like, well, I don't know, actually, it sounds like CJ started still in concussion protocol as of Monday. But hopefully he can come out of that before the end of the week. can play next weekend. Also, what's with the Texans also did the thing where they had a number two quarterback Davis Mills and he came in when Stroud got hurt. But the next week, they just started Case Keenham, who was inactive that day.

And this trend of they have three quarterbacks, two active on game day. And the third stringer leapfrogs the number two guy to start. This is such a weird, I don't understand this. The coaches don't know what. It's all vibes based, baby. This is what happened with the Jets. They freaking played Tim Boyle and then like a couple weeks later cut him. They're like, ah, that didn't work.

Fuck this. I also always find it funny when teams bench a quarterback mid-game because they're playing so poorly, but then they start again next week. Like, Sam Howell was benched for Jacoby Percet, who came in and, like, looked good. Awesome. And then now, they're like, I know Sam Hal is still starting. You're like, why did you bet? It's just development, I think.

It is wild that preset of all, in the year of the backup quarterback, Jacob Preset, who was fine last year just never ended up playing. Like, no, he was this week. He'd be like a mid-level starter on any other team, I feel like. Unbelievable. Anyway, so, so, that's the other guy I would have picked is Noah Brown for the Texans. And you could totally, if you guys argued hard enough, convince me I've made a mistake. Noah Brown should be first. But I think if you actually have to- Josh Palmer, but there's just a million variables there.

But if you have to plug in play someone, which hopefully you don't, these are the two guys that would pick. And Craig has the horrific job of having to pick a third person. Just wait. I'm going to sneak in here with Curtis Samuel, dude. Curtis Samuel, last three weeks, wide receiver 16. He's a top 15 guy in targets per games. He's seeing nine targets of games. He actually has tied for the team leading targets over the last three weeks. They're playing at the Jets, which is not great.

That was kind of what held me off from making this decision. But there's not a ton of other options. I thought about Don Tavian Wicks for the Packers. I thought about Michael Wilson on the Cardinals. But Curtis Samuel has been the number two guy on this team, this entire year after Terry McLaren. And oftentimes the number one guy. John Dotson has just

disappeared. He's slipped into the ether. He's no longer on a football team, apparently. Jackie's dad is playing fantasy football for the first time in like 10 years. And every week he's like, should I play Curtis Samuel or AJ Brown? And I'm like, you should play AJ Brown. And then Curtis Samuel kind of keeps out scoring AJ Brown.

And I think he thinks I'm bad at my job. There's honestly nothing worse than like a very, you know, innocent, like just starting fantasy football player asking for your advice and then you're just wrong every time because you're trying to be logical and practical. Answering that question is a lose-lose situation. You have nothing to win. If AJ Brown outscores him, it's like, yeah, no shit, you should have started AJ Brown. Then if Samuel outscores him, if you look like, you said AJ Brown, you look like an idiot. No win situation.

Other receivers, I agree with the top three. I agree with the top three, no brown for the Texans, Josh Palmer for the charges, Curtis, Simon for Washington. I'm going to throw out other names if you're in a deeper league. James Williams for the Lions is like playing more for the Lions and they're the Lions. And he's just doing more stuff. I kind of love James Williams again. I was off that. I was off it for a while.

I was like, this guy's kind of a knucklehead doesn't know what he's doing. He's back. The vibes are kind of bad. But now it's like, the vibes are like, it's just impossible to have bad vibes on the Lions. You know?

Like you could just throw anyone in the Lions and I'm kind of into them. And he's so explosive. Yeah. Jameson Williams, again, I don't like trusting him. But if you really are desperate, that's fine.

I think Michael Wilson is sneaky. Michael Wilson for the Cardinals is sneaky. He missed some time with a neck injury, but before he went down, he was playing well. He had like a really nice five weeks in the middle of the year, and then he went down with a neck injury. But Marquis Brown, they're starting number one guy, left the game with a heel injury, didn't return.

They're playing the Bears. I don't know. Michael Wilson, the all-star of guys who had zero points last week, but I actually trust him. Like Gabe Davis had zero points last week. God. Michael Wilson over Gabe Davis had zero points in like four out of the last six games.

Yeah, it's brutal. What happened there? I mean, he was really back. I think his coach has noticed he can't catch the football. I'm not convinced he was ever real, to be honest. I think he's a collective imagination, that 200-yard game in the playoffs. Who's more disappointing, Johan Dotson or Gabe Davis? Gabe Davis.

I kind of feel like John Dotson is. I actually believed in John Dotson. I was always just kind of like Gabe, great situation. You know. If you're in a truly deep league and you have to make it, I would just the Giants, this is really sad. But Dary Slayton and Wondale Robinson, the Giants, I would say, Randall Robinson's kind of like the poor man's Deontay Johnson of like if you're truly, truly, truly desperate in a PPR league and you just have to throw out someone who might get

five catches. Wondell Robinson can just get you a really nasty five, five catches for 40 yards against the Eagles this week. Eagles, a lot of the most points to slot receivers. And Darrys Slaten, too, it's just like, it's not, it's not pretty, but Trailon Burks of the Titans, Donovan Wicks for the Packers, Dauntevenwick's, 97 yards. That's the most yards any Packers receivers had all season, which I thought was wild. And they're banged up, man.

Musgrave is out. Christian Watson's hurt. Jane Reed hurt his toe. How many of rookies are they going to find? I know. Seriously. How did they find all these guys? Plus they got Tucker Kraft.

I'm sure we'll talk about later. They have so. Musgrave and Kraft at tight end. They have like four or five young receivers under like 22, 23 years old. They've done a really good job of like reloading at that position. All right. We can get to tight end here in a moment. But first, we are supported by NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube and YouTube TV.

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So that would be really interesting. Yeah, the West. I am obsessed with what's going on in Buffalo. This team is 8 and 6, and they might be the best team in the AFC. They also have a shot at not making the playoffs. They play the Chargers this week. I think they can get a win. And they play New England. I'm locked in on the bills. If they make the playoffs, I'm picking them to win the Super Bowl. I can't wait to see if they continue the Cinderella run they're on. I'm interested to see what's going to happen in the two South divisions. So the AFC South, we got the Jags, Colson, Texans, duking it out. All of them are very neck and neck right now.

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So it's from Sam. Sam. Sam-A. These are Sam's. No, wait, not these. This is Sam's. This is Sam's tight end showdown time. We're getting, this is Sam's tight end show.

I love this question because it was from Sam and also his name of Sam Laporte. Iowa tight ends, you know, a little corn homage here. Sam says the question is, according to farmers, what day does corn need to be knee high by? According to farmers, what day does corn need to be knee high by? Yeah, like if you're going to, you know, harvest it? If you're growing the, yeah, you're going to harvest the crop on time, what day does corn need to be knee high by? I love this question.

Day of the year or day of the hard, like day since planting it? Nope, just a date. Whoever gets the closest date. A date. Wow. Okay. I love this. I don't know this.

Knee high? Okay. Does that change things? Shin high, quad high. Yeah. Let's knee high. God. Okay.

Okay. So are you guys ready? We're just going to say a date, right? Our fast farming experience. All right. Three, two, one. June first. June 1.

June 1st. Oh, shit. I think I'm too late. Are you kidding? Wow. I said June 1st. You said June 1st? Yeah.

Damn. What are we going to do? I'll go June 2nd. How about that? Okay. The answer is... If I lose once again by taking the under... Do you want to switch?

No, no, no. All right. Well, the answer is July 4th. So I actually do win, which is hilarious. I mean, no, D.K., what did you say? I said August 1st. I think I might be closer. Oh, no, you're definitely closer, yeah.

Great. Hell yeah. That's funny. So that, you know what, that makes sense in retrospect. expect it being a holiday July 4th. Like it just not like a random day. I almost said, but July 12th, it's like July 4th.

Yeah, but I was the, you know. Labor Day, but I'm like, corn gets really tall. By the time they harvest, I don't even know when they harvest, sometime in the fall, right? So, it's amazing too, because California grows all of America's corn. So that's...

Look, I'm from Nebraska. I should know this shit. I'm kind of focused on the fruits and veggies over here in California. We love a salad out here, out west. Email us at Ring and Fantasy Football atcom. the farming stuff. Hi Fitz, can you Google while I'm talking when do they harvest corn in the heartland or whatever? I mean, I'm not going to lie. I feel like I know that just because when do you harvest it? I mean, I feel like corn's fresh in August and September, right? Like,

right? No, I'm asking you to confirm your suspicions. Yeah, it says between August and October. Hi Fitz. California is the nation's top producer of sweet corn growing 26% in the U.S. God damn it. Is it really? Yeah. California grows the most corn. We're mad. We're a massive state with temperate weather. What do you think? That's all you grew Iowa, man. No, it says Iowa is the largest producer of corn. Where were you on?

California agricultural defender. Sweet corn is what my- California's sweet corn. Is there a difference? I mean, definitely, yeah. Also, because it's like a 40- If you lived in California for like years. In Los Angeles. As opposed to what else?

The places that grow things. L.A. doesn't grow produce. Stop us merch in California. I'm going to go with Tucker Kraft again for the Packers. I think he was my guy last week too, and he did not disappoint. He had, let's see, four catches, 57 yards and a touchdown. He's playing like 95% of the snaps for them. He looks really good out there.

We could have like a little bit of a competition once Luke Musgrave gets back next year, I think. Anyway, Tucker Kraft, lock it in. All right, Hyphids. So there's also dent corn. I don't know, because there's also a thing that they grow to feed animals, right? Like, it's soybeans, right? Like, 40% of antibiotics go to animals. It's like, I think it's like soybeans that a lot of crops do go to feed livestock as well.

So that's maybe how they juice the numbers. I don't know. I think I would do it's the most corn. Anyway, tight end do you have to pick one? Fine. Kate Otten for the bucks. I think Tucker Craft's a good one for you, D.K. I know the bucks just won the battle of the bays here.

Wow, we really should have called that for the tight end Green Bay last week. I think that I like Kate Otton for the Bucks because he's always on the field. I also like the Tucker Kraft pick for you, D.K., because he's always on the field now that Luke Musk gives and I are. Tucker Kraft is on the field for 95% of snaps, but Kate Otton gets the same treatment. The other reason is the Bucks are playing the Jaguars this week. The Jags linebackers, we talked about this with Nate, where the Jags linebackers are just super susceptible to tight ends.

The Jags linebackers allowed David and Joku to have like one of the three best games of his career. Last week, Isaiah liked, I mean, it was a little bit. Lamar just checking it up. But Isaiah likely had a great game for the Ravens last week against the Jags. and I just really think the bucks are great and play action and throwing it over and I just think that K. Dotton, if you're going to gamble on a random tight end,

I think KDOTN is a really solid one for the Buccaneers. Like it. So there are three types of corn, right? There's dent corn. There's sweet corn. So dent corn is the grain, sweet corn is the vegetable, and then there's popcorn.

What? Popcorn. Look, I'm reading some agricultural PDF, you know, looks very official here. Popcorn's like a variety. I thought popcorn was just... It says, today corn is cultivated on every continent except the Antarctica. The three types of corn grown for human consumption are dent corn, sweet corn and popcorn.

Dude, there are so many ghosts right now just listening to us to be like, you just have no idea what you're talking. There is literally probably someone on a trailer right now dealing with their like corn. On a combine. Yeah, on a combine. This might not be the time of year when they're doing that. Probably not. You're right. That's right.

Email is over your fancy. We just email. sphere somewhere? I don't know. If you grow corn, please email us for your fantasy football at gmail.com and school us because clearly we've no idea what we're talking about. It's kind of a lot of misinformation online about corn production. It's a huge business, Craig. They don't want you to find the truth.

Yeah, that's right. All right. You took KDOT and Tucker Craft. I can't believe nobody did this. Hyvitz, I'm going to go with your guy. Hunter Henry, baby. I know. Tight end two the last two weeks.

The number two tight end in football the last two weeks other than David. in Joku. They're playing also, they're playing Denver, who has given up the second most fantasy points to tight ends this season. Bailey Zappy loves him some Hunter Henry. Shabby clearly is a Hunter Henry guy. He's three touchdowns last two weeks. The only issue with Hunter Henry, just make sure to, he's a, he

had an knee injury. A hundred, Bailey Zappi kind of threw him a hospital ball toward the end of the game. So just monitor Hunter Henry being healthy because Craig is right that if all these guys were healthy, Hunter Henry is probably the safest pick. The guy who was three touchdowns with the two quarterback. But if he doesn't play, that sucks. but we'll see.

But those are all actually pretty solid. My team is sneaky good for not winning a single trivia question today. What's your team? Note that, Kai. Chase Brown, Hunter Henry, and Curtis Samuel. That's not bad. It's not bad at all. Explosive team.

Justice Hill, Noah Brown, Tucker Kraft. Feeling pretty good about that. Noah Brown playing the Browns. So look with that. Kai, who won last week, the trivia? Who had the most points last week? Wait, Kai, who did you pick and then who won? I picked Craig.

No, I thought you picked Haifitz. No, I did pick Haifitz. I'm sorry, okay, let's start over. I like that he does. No, no, we're keeping that, Kyle. That's what it's like to be on mic, baby. Although I get to decide at the end of the day. Oh, that's true.

No, you're right. So I did pick Hyfitz. Thank you, because I would have lost how'd I pick Craig. So, DK came in third. I had my highlighting messed up on the dock. So, DK came in third. Has he? Nope.

I did win one time. Oh, did you? D.K. had Deante Foreman, Romeo Dobbs, Tucker Kraft, 17.6 points. Not bad. Everyone had a great showing, honestly. Let's be real. Craig had Zemir White, Noah Brown, and Davis Allen. What?

Oh, nice job. 36.1 points was your final. And High Fitz, Ty Chandler, O'Dell Beckham Jr. and Isaiah likely for 40.6 points. Oh, likely and Chandler. Yeah, Odell did nothing, but likely to Chandler, man. Team on their backs right there. That'll do it.

And then you guys already kind of a recap this week, except High Fids his team, which is Roshon Johnson, Josh Palmer, and K. Dodden. I mean, I'm going to go with D.K. I like the Justice Hill. No Brown. Wow. I know you tried to reel me in there, Craig, but I don't know. I did. I tried to sell you a false pill of goods.

Quarterback. I feel like no one needs a quarterback. You're probably fine. But if you do, Jake Browning in Pittsburgh, like, I don't know. He's been weirdly good, man. D.K., would you rather have Kenny Pickett or Jake Browning just, rest of career. Straight up.

Yep. The fact that I like can't answer that that very quickly, I think tells you everything you need. It's a catastrophe. I kind of like Jake Browning is who we thought Kenny Pickett was going to be because I remember talking about Kenny Pickett in the offseason and we're like, oh, you know, maybe not like the best tools, but he's like steely, confident. Kind of like elevates the guys around him in terms of just the attitude and the swag.

And that is like Jake Browning, man. He's got some like confidence. It's crazy. even though he maybe is not like the most physically oppressive guy. And then Pickett is just really bad. Every time I go to Twitter, I see some new funny stat about how like one of these backup quarterbacks has more multi-touchdown games than Kenny Pickett does in his career.

I have Drake Browning to that list. Jake Browning has more touchdown passes than Kenny Pickett this year. It's like at some point we just have to be like, Kenny Pickett is bad. What are we doing here? Yeah, you can take Jake Browning. I'll be in person for that one. The Joe Flacco,

has been weirdly good. Did you see guys the most yards in the history of the fourth quarter for the Browns last week? And their fake history. Yeah, they said in 46 years, which is a fake stat because the Browns aren't the Browns,

but whatever. I don't like it versus the Texans. I kind of think if you're going to actually have to stream Garder and Minchew versus the Falcons. I just kind of think the Colts are, we get to check on this. I know a bunch of receivers got hurt,

so ideally like, see if like Josh Downs and Pittman and people are able to play. But depending on that, I think Minchie versus the Falcons. And I also totally refuse to play Derek Carr versus the Rams and Thursday. My season will not end because I had to play Derek Carr. I'd rather play CJ Bethard if you have Trevor Lawrence.

Like I'd rather just wait, play Bethard if he can't go. Defense, though, I think there's a lot of defenses to stream. Again, backup quarterbacks. The Colts defense playing the Falcons. Desmond Ritter has on the Sunday show. Desmond Ritter has six turnovers in the Red Zone this year, which is tied for the, that is the most the quarterbacks had through 15 weeks since Deshawn Kaiser for the 2017 for the 2017 for the 2017.

Wow. Six turnovers in the red zone. I don't remember what quarter was in. One of the worst of the year. The end of the game that lost the Falcons the game. Okay. Yeah, I just decided to try and forget about it. But, like, that was one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen.

It was so, he threw it to, like, three defenders, and there wasn't even really a guy in that area. Yeah, I think the Colts defense for the Falcons is a total fine play. Also, I think the Texan's defense is weirdly fine. And I think, did Fleco three picks last week? Yeah. He's kind of, he's kind of just like old James Winston, where he's just kind of, like, slinging it and just,

It's either a touchdown or a pick, but he always has both. He's definitely like writing arms. He's writing checks. His arm can't cash, which is weird. Honestly, but he played so long ago that checks were still a thing. So I actually kind of like the Texan's defense. Also, the lion's defense is not good. But, man, after seeing Nick Mullen's throw, perhaps the dumbest non-Carsson

interception I've ever seen, which was the Nick Boland's being sacked. And then right before he got sacked, he kind of threw the ball to the guy who was sacking him's face. his lap. That was wild. So I don't think I love the Lions defense, but that, Nick Ballons, you never know. And then also just the Buccaneers. If Trevor Lawrence is out, they're playing C.J. Beatherd and the Jags, like, I don't know what C.G.

Bethard's deal is, but you could probably do worse. And then also, dude, we were just talking about the Bengals, man. Mason Rudolph's going to play for Kenny, for Mitch Jubisky this week for the Steelers. They're going to play Mason Rudolph. Sure. The Bengals, I don't love that. I'm boycotting that game. I'm not watching.

I can't watch me as a quarterback situation this year. I just, I refused to watch Mason Rudolph. I won't do it. Yeah. But the best streaming defense of the bunch, though, and maybe the best pick of the malls, the Bears defense has been playing really well and they're going to play the Cardinals.

I kind of think the Bears against Kyler and the Cardinals is pretty solid. How do you feel about Philadelphia, who everybody has dropped now? They're only like 41% people started them last week, and they've been really dropping off. They're playing the Giants at home. If Philly was available right now in your Waverwire,

would you start them against the Giants or no. I would grab them. I think that people are underrating how difficult the Eagle schedule has been. the Eagles defense is not great by the standards of like beating other teams Super Bowl contenders like the Bills and the Niners and the Cowboys but like I mean let me ask your question with another question the Giants best receivers are Darius Slayton and Wandole Robinson where would those guys slot in and like the Cowboys offense Darius Slayton uh you know fourth I mean I just

fourth option fifth option yeah I just I think the Eagles defense is going to have a great time against the Giants. So you can totally play them if they're out there. Okay. So there's a lot of defenses. Bears, Eagles, Colts.

All right. Kai. That's me. So does that, so, oh, I won and you picked me so that, so that's,

it's moot. Nothing happens. I was going to say, should we throw in the wrench of me picking a single player of these nine as like the highest scoring one? So you guys have to eat some pop tarts or something?

Do I think you want to eat that for the very last one? A bone-dried turkey sandwich. Hey, I've got options. Just dehydrated. A joke to death on Mike. It's a bowl of rice and chicken from Chipotle. You know those dehydrate?

It sounds good, actually. Things that you could dehydrate fruits and stuff with back in the day. We should do that with turkey and then eat a sandwich of that. Nice little. Dried turkey chip. It's just jerky. Unbelievable. A jerky sandwich.

Also, we were talking last night on the Sunday night show about like using stale bagels to make croutons. And somebody tweeted us saying, you guys just invented. bagel chips live on air because bagel chips are real things. They're not really used in salads as croutons, but yes, bagel chips do exist and we didn't really think of that. I love bagel chips also. They're like the best part of checks mix in my opinion. All right, Kai, you get off for this week, this week only.

Sounds great. Next week, though, championship waiver wire for Kai. You're putting your faith in me, which I am, D.K. Statistically speaking, it's not a good bet. I think that's for crack, though. Honestly. Yeah. Statistically, me and Craig, we just don't do well together.

If it's the last thing I do, I'm going to make Kai, who loves red apples and green grapes, eat green apples and red grapes. I'm just, it's going to happen. We also, I have to shout out. I do some emails here. A lot of things to discuss, although, you know, while Craig's doing the correction here of the bagel chips thing, I have to shout out. On the Friday show, I said that Miami was closer to New York than Atlanta.

That's not true. We got a lot of people complaining about this. Atlanta is, I literally got it back. I had it because I knew that Atlanta and Miami was further than you think. And I had the two things side by side. I just got it wrong. Miami is closer to Atlanta than Atlanta is to New York. But it's farther still than you think.

It's 10 hours from Atlanta and Miami. Yes, but it's less of like a surprising fact. It's like I got it wrong. Put little Easter eggs in the shows that make people go, hmm, that doesn't sound even remotely right. Yeah, these are all deliberate. I like that the people email didn't know where people who lived there were like, you definitely just got this exactly backward.

There's no way. had both and flipped them, and that's exactly what happened. So I'm sorry. And if you were listening to that and be like, that was wrong. It's the Veronica Corningstone scene from Anchorman. There's no way. That's correct. Old wooded ship.

Oh, my God. Classic. Yeah, I'm stupid. You're smart. I also, we got an email from you, Hennio. I thought this was excellent. Hennio. This is so Craig.

Craig's burner is named you Hennio. The subject line is the perfect Brock Purdy analogy. And Eugenio writes, Brock Purdy is Harrison Barnes on the 2015-2016 Golden State Warriors who broke the wins record for the NBA. An effective player that no one could evaluate properly because he was the least talented of the starting unit. And even though they perfectly connect the pieces that make up the most lethal lineup in NBA history of Steph Curry, Clay Thompson, Andreou Godal, and Draymond.

And then that's like Christian McCaffrey, Iuk, Kittle, and Debo. And also like 2015 Harrison Barnes, whether you think he's okay or fine or good or great, if you replaced Brock Purdy with an equivalent of Kevin Durant, like a Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrough or Josh Allen, the team would probably immediately reach levels never seen before in history. I thought that was a pretty incredible analogy. And I also loved it because it went further of there's not really a reason to get lost and how good is Harrison Barnes,

how good is Brock Purdy? It's like, this team is one of the best teams I've ever seen. I like that comparison. I think calling Brock Purdy, Harrison Barnes is not giving Purdy enough credit. Harrison Barnes was not very good on the Warriors and often like kind of like missed a lot of clutch shots and was somebody who you didn't want the ball on his hands in the final minute. And Purdy's not that at all. But you're, it's, it's correct in that, you know, the team is so impressive that like, you could like, I maybe would call him Sean Livingston on the Warriors in 2015, 2016, where it's like,

every time he was on the, on the court, like, you could bank on him for a 10 footer, super reliable. Everybody loved him. But like, he was only the guy he was because he was on the Warriors. Because Harrison Barnes has been the same guy in the Kings. It's not like the warriors propped him up that much. He's actually probably been better on the Kings. Yeah, maybe this is too derogatory. Also, what are some of the Warriors? D.K. doesn't really fall basketball anymore. And I know that the warner season in Draymond's career was going in a bad place when D.K. had to text Craig. What's the deal with Draymond Green? With he just does like to spit, talk about spitting back fist. Like the Teagan's catch.

The UFC back, back punch. Yo, what's up with that, man? Come get your guy. Look, Draman Green has always been this guy. They're just not good now, so it's not as fun. No, it's getting worse. Yeah, he's had a tough year. He's had a tough year. He's punched like three people in like 18 months.

He was already, he went from the kicking people in the nuts. He's like kicking people in the nuts guy to the punching people in the face guy in like a year and a half. Yeah. Look, I'm telling you, though, it's all because the warriors are struggling. It's, Draymond has always been this guy. He kicked LeBron in the nuts in the finals and got suspended for a game.

But everybody put up with that because we were winning. And now the tuxedos kind of seem fucked up now. Yes. Oh my God. Yeah. So there we go. Also, other emails, we were talking last week about Microsoft Excel.

And someone asked a great truth of question of how many, what's the maximum number of cells in a Microsoft Excel sheet? And the answer. was what, 17 billion? And we were like, who needs like a million rows? So we got to thank you to people email those. I'm not going to name anyone because they're like people with like real important jobs. No one with, like, but do it.

I thought about it, but no. This is from Anonymous. Anonymous. All right. So Anonymous works at a top five bank in the United States. They're right. I know. You asked them what scenarios does anyone need to ever have a spreadsheet of hundreds of

thousands of rows. I work in global liquidity management at a top five bank in the United States, and we report every single day to the Fed and the C-suite of the bank on the entire liquidity profile of the bank, which basically means that we are the team that make sure the bank has enough money. Like, they are the team that makes sure the bank could survive a downturn, and then also the bank can pay for the bank. The bank has money is their job. And they figure out how much money the bank has, and they have to submit an Excel file with basically how much money the bank has with every single transaction, everything, for about a trillion dollars every day. And then the people in the Fed and the C-suite read that whole thing every day?

That's what I don't get. I'm like, how do you read the bottom of the sheet? They read every cell. Someone said, on that note, I was like, how do you open? Someone literally sent another one. I'm not going to am any of these people, but you know who are. But someone's where I was an auditor for Big Four accounting firm. Ooh, this one's even better.

Big four. All right. Yeah, well, I mean, that's a term. Yeah. Well, the last guy was top five. Big four seems a little bit more prestigious, you know. We're a top three pod, so. Yeah.

I work at a top three pod. A client of theirs used an Excel sheet to track something that should have been done by like a system, and they just did it in one sheet. And there's an oil and gas company tracked. They're spending on all of the equipment they had ever owned or bought ever. And compared to the budget amounts. and the total size was a gigabyte of just the Excel file, which is half the size of a maximum Excel file size.

It was so large, it took the team a week to figure out how to open the file. Like they couldn't, it would crash their computer. They could not open it. And when they did, they realized that the company transported oil and gas, which, you know, has to go far distances. And they had a separate row for every section of pipe that they owned. that sounds just horrific I

and so they also said also this the sheet had columns that were literal repeats of the columns further to the left because if you try to scroll to the left of column A the document would crash the whole sheet I was going to say like how are they continuing

to add to that doesn't that means you have to open it every single day to add to it I don't know I don't know I'm not even going to pretend to know this level we have another one mile Miles wrote in Miles The most common one seems to be the documents needed to do mergers and acquisitions.

And when big companies buy other big companies, like Microsoft buying Activision for what is that, $70 billion, they have to conduct the transaction specifically in specific ways to take advantage of like tax treatments and stuff, which means tracking massive amounts of data across dozens, but often hundreds of countries around the world and to comply with requirements for the tax treatment. And you're tracking all this data of thousands or perhaps millions of people and all these different countries. And that is why you need a million rows in an Excel sheet.

I mean, I think all this makes a lot of sense. I just think our point was we don't have any experience with this type of thing. That seems wild. I thought I had seen large ones. But also, wait, what I couldn't believe, the day after we had this conversation, the Wall Street Journal had a story that the Microsoft Excel World Championships was held in Las Vegas at the HyperX Arena in the Luxor in Vegas, which was one floor below a show by Carrot Top. Can we pause? What? What the hell are the Microsoft Excel World Championships? I'm so glad you ask, Craig. It is a bunch of exactly what you think.

It's people who use Excel all day, all day, and they have, like, the World Championships where they submit these massive files of, like, huge problems. The final was on, it was related to spaceship construction and asteroid mining. And they basically have to filter data and, like, pull data, organized data, whatever, raw data, and they have to organize it, and there's five bonus problems.

And they submit these massive crazy problems. Whoever does it the fastest wins. and there's points. They live stream it. It's like whoever makes the least progress. Like it's a limited real time. There's a controversy because the highest, you know the hot dog contest?

You ever watch that Nathan's when they intro the guys and it's like way too serious? It was like that. They had a guy. I think the name was Andrew the Annihilator. It's like the world champion. And there was another called. Oh my God.

Yeah, Diomiered Early is they call him the LeBron James of Excel. And they like announcing them. Yeah, they. They call them. We should do a little fantasy Microsoft Excel Championships League. That'd be kind of fun, one year. If you think you're a Microsoft Excel champ emails or your fantasy football channel. Also, pretty impressive.

This is hosted at the Luxor in Vegas, like the Microsoft Excel Championship. I mean, if you got the Annihilator coming, you got to fucking host it in Vegas. The Annihilator needs a suite. I mean, who uses, I mean, they had the Dodgeball World Championships in Vegas and Dodgeball. Dodgeball, to me, seems a little bit more, you know, publicly entertaining than a Microsoft Excel competition. Sex sells, Craig. This is a big draw. It reminds me of the social network when he's like, when Zuckerberg is like holding that competition to see who can work at Facebook at the beginning of the movie, when it's just like a bunch of, they're like taking like shots of whiskey while coding. Yeah, no, the Wall Street Journal article is really funny and dry about it. And they were like, it's kind of like watching people take the.

SAT, but they're like, they have a DJ being like, the world's greatest, like, but people are just like on their computers. There's just a lot of stuff that happens in the world. Dude, I know. Every time I read something like this, I'm just like, so much stuff is going on at all times. I went to the mall. Like people get into the most specific stuff.

I went to the mall for Christmas. I was like, there's so many people. So many people. Or like too many people. I think about that when I'm stuck in traffic and I look and I see, you know, hundreds of cars just gridlocked. I'm like every single one of those persons, people, is just a human being with a life going somewhere. They have a group of friends.

They have interests. They go on vacation somewhere. They have a family. And I'm just like, it's too many people. Too many people. There's a word for that. It's called Sonder. I love this word.

Sonder, my friend told me, is the, it's the realization that each random passerby is living a is vivid and complex as you're right. Wow, I can't where there's a word for that. I think about that all the time. I'll walk by somebody on the street and I'm like, that person has their own fucking universe that they're living in. And I am completely irrelevant to them. Yeah, people watching is so like entertaining and sort of almost profound sometimes

because you can just like think, you can like just imagine what they, what that person is doing. What brought them to that specific moment in time, how they got to that place. You know, like every time you pass someone or talk to someone, it's like their entire life has led up to this moment.

Like that kind of shit is like mind blowing. That is why I don't care how basic it is. If I could only have follow one account on Instagram, it would be humans of New York, which has remained the greatest Instagram account. It actually gets more amazing to me as I get older. I follow humans of capitalism, which is sort of different.

Have you ever seen that account? No. It's just people doing the dumbest shit imaginable. Oh, yeah. Just what to make a buck. Capitalism. Yeah, it's just like this is the state of the world now. It's like influencers like taking videos of themselves

and like really weird public spots and like, you know, just shit like that. It's just like shithead 22 year olds pranking like an 80 year old on the street for a TikTok. Humans of capitalism. All right. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, K. Thank you, Kai, for producing this episode. Thank you, Jack, for behind the scenes.

Thank you, humans of New York. Humans of Capitalism, whatever. Thank you emails. Everyone emails at ring your fantasy football at gmail.com. Thank you everyone using Microsoft Excel out there with your million rows. Especially the annihilator. Shouts. Yeah.

Annihilator. I'm going to stick to like, you know, five digits max on my Excel sheets for a million. A million is insane. Thank you, Lord. Lauren. Thank you, Van Morrison. Love Van Morrison. Is that his first name or is that his last name?

Or is it first and last or is it just last? I don't know, but I believe his first name is Van. his last name is Morrison, it would be my guess. I think it's Dutch. I pretty sure. It's neither, right? I'm so rarely, right? Maybe it's not his actual name.

It's his middle name and it's George, it's George Ivan, Ivan, right? It's George Van is short for it. George, Sir George Ivan Van Morrison. It's not Dutch. Wow. Wow. We were both right. I very rarely.

Wow. I mean, I wasn't, yeah, I knew his name is Van Morrison. But yeah. I'm not going to lie. When I was growing up, I thought brown-eyed girl was a Beatles song for a really long time. Oh, really? I lost a bet on that.

A big deal. Yeah, but my brother and I, when we were kids, you ever seen Dukes of Hazard? Yeah. You know with the scene where they lose a bet, it's like the loser gets to hit the other with a phone book? Yeah. And then they do that. And then there's one scene where they're like, oh, that's not wherever the Hazard phone book. They're like, no, that's Manhattan.

One year for his birthday, I got my brother in Manhattan phone book, and then we would like phone book bet things. And so like the loser would get hit in the face of the phone book. And I think I got phone. I thought brown-eyed girl was a beetle song and I got phone book. Brothers just like beat up each other all the time. Like Craig, did you have that experience too? Oh yeah, sure. I had an older brother.

I unfortunately had an older brother who like grew early and I grew late. So it was kind of the worst of both worlds. He was like six two and I was like five one. That's why Craig's tough as hell now. Did you ever get to beat up your brother? Because that point that changes your life. I still never did it? No.

He's like, I'm six two. He's like six three, but even your brother's tall. My brother's a big guy. You're gonna still have to do it though once. You can wait until like you're both really old and then beat the shit out of it. He does have a hurt back. He like ruptured a vertebrae so maybe now is the time to strike. Yeah, wait for him to step out of line.

Yeah. Try me. I'll keep that in mind with the holidays coming up. Christmas time. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. A little bear. Robert better not get in my face.

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