The Ringer NFL Show - Waiver Wire Pickups for Week 7 and We Sold Out to Delta

Episode Date: October 14, 2024

SHOWDOWN TIME! Must-add players at each position ahead of NFL Week 7 (1:36). Plus, emails (52:52)! RB: Tyrone Tracy Jr. (Giants), Tank Bigsby (Jaguars), and Sean Tucker (Buccaneers) (2:06) WR: JuJu Smith-Schuster (Chiefs), Christian Watson (Packers), and Michael Wilson (Cardinals) (17:37) TE: Hunter Henry (Patriots), Noah Fant (Seahawks), and Zach Ertz (Buccaneers) (30:45) QB: Drake Maye (Patriots), Andy Dalton (Panthers), and Daniel Jones (Giants) (42:49) D/ST: Los Angeles Chargers, Buffalo Bills, and Cincinnati Bengals (43:48) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producer: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horacek. Today we are going over the must add players after week six. Here's how it's going to work. We're all going to pick our favorite player to add from waivers and fantasy for this week. And if we pick the same player, we'll do a trivia tiebreaker, decide who gets that player and then someone else has to pick a different player so that you can simulate for you the order in which you should put your waiver orders. It's a whole thing.

It's not that complicated. I promise you'll get it. Email us trivia questions at Ringar Fantasy Football at Gmail. dot com. Remember, they got to be a number of some kinds so you can get wrong in order closer to the pen. And emails fantasy courts. We do fantasy court on our power hours on Wednesdays and it's also on YouTube at Ringer NFL on YouTube so you can subscribe to the YouTube channel and also follow us on Instagram at Ringer Fantasy Baby. All right, enough plugs. Let's just go into it. Week seven, that's a little nuts. I'm not going to lie. Week seven. Is every year of your life

like this? Or is this season flying or is it is every year fly? I feel like every season gets a little bit quicker. We're flying through this. Already week seven, almost two months in. They say life moves faster, the older you get. Maybe it's the same with NFL seasons. Yeah. The days are long, the years are short. Yeah. Damn. All right. Well, in case anyone didn't have enough existential dread on this lovely Monday we're recording on. There you goes, a little more for you. Dek. Let's get right into it. Running back, number one running back, you want to add on waivers after week six. I'm going to go Tyrone Tracy of your New York Giants. He looked really good. 17 rushes 50 yards. He added six catches for 57 yards. That was.

kind of what I was hoping for and waiting for is him getting more involved in the passing game and he did that in this last week, ran 31 routes. There's already some buzz and some indication that he might be the leadback going forward even when Devin Singletary comes back. So I think Tyrone Tracy

is the guy to add this week if you have, if he's still out on your way of wire. I think it's tough this week to be honest because there's a lot of things going on. Travis E.T.N. for the Jags is week to week and Take Bigsby is kind of right around that 50%ish roster ship percentage on Yahoo and ESPN and stuff like that.

Tank, I think, has been really good this year, and I feel more confident about him getting the lion's share of the workload if ETN is out compared to Tyrone Tracy. If Devin Singletary comes back, is it going to be a split? Do we really know that? And then also, to toss in a third wrench, Isaac Guarendo, if I'm saying that correctly, the Niners running back.

If Jordan Mason is out, they're calling him day-to-day with an AC joint sprain. They're playing the Chiefs next week. I think I would probably lean Tank as the safest. And then Tyrone Tracy and then Isaac Wrendo. High Fitz, where are you at? I'm certainly between Tyrone Tracy and Tank Bigsby, because I would eliminate Isaac Warrando from like the number one spot here for two reasons. One, I think first of all, it's great.

The Niners, we've played six games and the Niners are on their fourth string running back. And so, you know, McCaffrey is obviously in Germany doing stuff with his Achilles tendonitis that spread to his legs. You got Jordan Mason as the shoulder injury. And Elijah Mitchell is already after the season. before the season even began. And I think that because you're down there, Isaac Garando, he's not going to get, like, Jordan Mason just replaced McCaffrey,

but like a little bit worse. Diminishing returns. Goreando is going to get, like, he's a rookie. So the passing game works going to go to Patrick Taylor, who hasn't been on the team that long. So it's kind of like, it's much more desperation, but it's a short term. I think Jordan Mason could be back in a week, two weeks.

And so it's like a week or two of like a portion of the Niners playing the Chiefs this week. That's not as sexy to me. So I would go Tyrone Tracy. I agree with D.K., but I do think it's a total coin flip for what you said, Craig, because I think Tyrone Tracy is going to keep the job,

even a job when Singletary comes back. But to your point, I like Tank Biggsby more immediately because ETIN's out. But I also think that Doug Peterson likes Tank Biggsby a lot, but Doug Peterson will be fired soon. And that like once Doug Peterson's fired, I once again, don't know what's going to happen to this backfield. So I don't know.

Like next week alone, like it does seem as though ETIN will be out for at least a week or two. Next week, you probably want Tank, right? I think next week you want, yeah, if it's just, I think that a lot of these waiver conversations, I think is a balance of like a short-term need versus like longer-term value. And I look at Tank Bigsby as certainly more likely

to get a ton of touches next week. I think the difference is, as D.K. has mentioned over and over. Tank Bigsby's not doing pass-down work. He has one target this year. Yeah, like they obviously, they literally don't think of him as a player who can catch a pass.

They just don't trust him in that area, yeah. No, and to protect Lawrence. And so to Ernest Johnson actually was the past protecting back for the Jaguars this week. And they were down 25 points, but also every freaking time the Jaguars and Doug Peterson are ready to give Tank Bigsby the job. He fumbles every time. He fumbled a kickoff right as the ETA and left

the game and Bigsby was going to get the thing. So that bothers me. But to your point, Craig, I think the differentiators, if you're in a full PPR league, we've said this ad nauseum. Tyron Tracy was a receiver in college. I think Daniel Jones, as you saw against Cincinnati, freaking check down artists, he can't throw the ball deep. So I think Tyron Tracy is going to catch way more passes. And that's, he's the rare player that like Wando Robinson PPR scam. If you're in a full PPR league, Tyron Tracy could have five catches for 20 yards, but like double Tank Bigsby's point total. That to me is, but this week, yeah, Tank probably outscores him, but I think Tyrone Tracy has a role all year for the Giants. So how are we going to do this trivia?

I think DK and I do Tyrone Tracy. You get Tank Bigsby. You get him on waivers and Tyrone and I do the Trayron. I call you Tyrone and I will do the TV. I'm pretty sure Tyrone Tracy will not be participating in the trip. Tyrone looks good, man. Tyrone has juice. He does. Tyrone Tracy is the argument for why the Giants let go Sequan. Obviously all the Giants fans were sad and like the idea that running backs don't matter. Sequan fucking matter to me. It's insane. But this is the argument, the logical, cold-hearted argument why is the Giants just drafted a fifth round running back, who is probably making like $700,000 as opposed to Sacon's $12 million a year. And he looks incredible. And he's like, what, 22? So yeah, that is the argument for why you do it.

It looks awesome. All right. Let's do it. Let's do the showdown. All right, it is the Tyrone Tracy. Showdown time. Bang. I love that gong. I can't believe Jackie had me throw away my gong. I keep thinking about how you had a gong and you never told us. I did have a gong. Imagine you actually turning around and banging that thing. I know. I can't a day on Monday. I don't know how.

I think I just can't believe I threw away the gong right before it. Whatever, man. It's Cé lavi. Okay. This trivia question is from Preston. Preston. So for those who don't know, we've been obsessed that there's a referee named Land Clark. I like where this is going.

Yeah. Yeah. So anyway. And then we were obsessed Land Clark and the all of other jobs. what does he do? He runs the municipal code in Albuquerque, so he's literally a land clerk. So Land Clark, the land clerk.

Anyway, Preston, he writes in. So then we did a survey, how many people are named land? Preston writes, I answered your Spotify survey yesterday, is your name land? And I answered no, because my name's Preston, not land. That makes sense. And I was shocked to see that 7% of people said, yes, my name is land. To which I was like, there's no way that's right, obviously, right? So I went and found the baby names from Social Security card applications from the national data

provided by data.gov. And this is all registered baby names in the United States of America since 1880 and I started to dig into it and I was disappointed to find that nobody, nobody for the national security, the social security database is named just land. Dang. Zero people? Zero. But I got

over my disappointment and found that the most common name starting with land is Landon like Landon Collins. Right, right. So the question it is since 1880 how many Americans have been named named Landon officially. Fudge.

That's going to be a big number. I gave my, I named my guess already. I'll give it with you guys, but I made my guess. Since 1880? Yes. Oh,

caramba. Landon. Landon. Other than, how many famous Landons are there? Landon Collins. Landon Collins might be the most famous land. Landon?

How many, I can't even name another Landon. He played at Alabama. He played for the Giants. I don't know. How many other Landon? And Danans are there. I can't name a Landon.

Landon Donovan. Kai says Landon Donovan. Landon Donovan. Yeah, Landon, good call. Good shout, Kai. Sorry to everyone go screaming right now about Landon Donovan. There's a Landon Tickerson on the Eagles. You just Googling Landon's?

Yeah. Sue me, Craig. No, look, hey, it's fine. Okay. You're right. There's not a lot of famous Landon's. I'm looking through these lists. I don't recognize hardly any of them.

You guys ready? Man, since 1880, how many landens? What the fuck? It's so hard. Dick, what does this bother you so much? Because it's hard. It's hard.

This is hard enough. We've got to pick waiver wire players. We're picking between dudes like Hunter Henry and Zach Hertz every week. Then we've got to guess how many landings there are since 1880? I have, how many landings there are since 1880? All right, fine. I got an hour. I have no idea.

I don't even know where my head's at. Yeah, I don't either. Okay. Three, two, one. $10,000. $10,000. I said $10,000. What did you say?

Craig? 25,000. I said a million. A million. I felt like I was guessing low, too, which is hilarious. A million. The answer is, oh, what, 181,47, Landon's. That's a win for your boy, but it doesn't really feel like a win, but it's a win.

That's one with the order of magnitude, that's it. That's one where the order of magnitude messes with closest to the pin because I'm much close to the DK, but also we were exactly equidistently wrong. I'll take the L, that's fine. Whatever. So Craig, you get, oh no, you don't even matter, but I get Tyrone Tracy, which is Justice, he's a giant.

DK., you get to, I think there's a lot of running backs in this next. I think there's a lot of other running backs that you can throw a dart at DK. So I get Tyrone Tracy from the Giants. Craig gets Teng Pigsby. Who would you do next, D.K.? I'm going to throw out a few names here and then I'll choose, okay? Starting off with Tyler Al Jir, not going anywhere. In fact, he led the

team and carries this last week. 18 carries 105 yards on a touchdown. Can you imagine spending the eighth pick in the draft on a running back and then just splitting with the guy that was already on the team and had a thousand yards as a rookie? Two separate courtsies. I've done this. I will say this is Alger's first game with double digit points.

Basically, what happens is if the Falcons are winning by a lot, they give the ball to Alger, he is their closer. I think Alger to me is a guy that like there are other guys we can discuss that if you are four and one or I guess at this point, six and oh, five and one, whatever you think you're going to make playoffs, It's something that, God forbid, it's something to, Abidjan Robinson, Tyler Adjira is straight up in top 12 running back.

And it's something like that where it just, yeah, eight or nine points, but he also is like a crazy upside if anything gets hurt. Abidjan's like 23. I don't know what to get hurt. If the Falcons are heavy favorites, I could see playing Algeria as like a flex. So you mentioned Isaac Arendo for 49ers. Ty Chandler for the Vikings.

If Aaron Jones misses the game this week against Detroit, Ty Chandler could end up getting a lot of volume. Hutchinson is out for Detroit, which gets severely hurt Detroit's defense. They've been pretty good against a run, so it might not be the best matchup, but that Vikings Lions game is going to be a lot of fun. And Ty Chandler could get a lot of carries in that one. Sean Tucker for the Buccaneers who led all running backs in Carrie or in fantasy points this past week. Literally number one.

I feel it's got to be him, right? Well, I think here's the problem. This is a two-man backfield right now or coming into this week. It was a two-man backfield in Tampa Bay. And now they're talking about making it in a three-person backfield, which sucks for fantasy because it's going to be, they're going to be splitting time. between now Rashad White, Bucky Irving, who also looked great in this last game, and Sean Tucker, who looked incredible rushing the football

and catching the football. So there's just... You almost said the basketball like the ref. Land Clark. Catching the basketball. Oh, no, was that Lynn Clark who refs? No, is that how he got on the land? No, I don't think so.

That's Carl Sheffers. Todd Bowles after the game said that Tucker, it's definitely worthy of making him, making it a three-headed monster, which is just devastating for fantasy, purposes, because then you can't really start any of them. Don't you just have to add the guy, though? I know he said...

Yeah, you have to add him. Because I look at Sean Tucker this way. I think that nine times out of ten, I agree with your logic decay of like, oh, when Rashad White comes back, then it's like a mess. But I think that this situation might be different because the bucks were dead last and rushing yards last season, yards per carry and total. They were dead last in rushing yards the season before that. And they also in yards per carry.

The first game, Rashad White's out. They literally have 250 rushing yards. And I think this is one of those where I actually think Rashad White will lose this job. I do not think he will have that. I think he will be functionally like Durnish Johnson in that fourth quarter. I think he's receiving back and obvious passing situations. But just as it, Todd Bowles is defensive coach and like defensive coaches are the biggest proponents of like the running game changes everything. And when Tampa Bay has a taste of holy shit, we ran the shit out of the ball. Like we were crushing it down the same throw. They have not had a good running band at five years in Tampa Bay.

And when you have that, the idea and you know, and also Sean Tucker was a pretty good prospect. He was undrafted because he had heart condition, big week for heart conditions this week. but Sean Tucker had a hard issue, so we went undrafted, but like he's running. He's good. He was at Syracuse. I feel like the Bucks, there's very little chance to me that they watched what Sean Tucker and Bucky Irvin did in this game. And they're going to be like, yeah, we're not going to play that guy.

Like, Rashadway is not this kind of runner. And I think, I think Sean Tucker is right there with Tracy. I don't know. I agree with you. Like, I want to agree with you. I want you to be right. But I just feel like we've seen this a million times. Coaches just don't always do what they probably should do.

Yeah, but it's usually the opposite. It's usually like they do something. little that other guys don't do like, oh, like, I think that things that don't come up in box scores or spreadsheets or whatever are like, can the running back create a hole? You know what I mean? Like, do they see the holes are there? Are they setting up blocks? And Rashad White clearly doesn't do any of that. And so when you see it, I don't know, but to your point, I think if Rashad White might miss this week. So that right there answers it. But so I think, you know, he's a elite fan. Yeah. Sean Tucker is probably the most high risk, high reward. Right. Yes. I think that's a good way

of putting it. All right, I'm going to go with Sean Tucker. Ultimately, like, I hope you get Sean Tucker if you love it. You want to trade? Yeah, trade. Who did you have again? Tyrone. Tyrone. Tyrone. Yeah, let's give me Tyrone. You take, uh, I had Tyrone last week, but that's fine. I love this is our fantasy analysis. It's like, well, that guy at the most points to take him. I'm like, I'll take the guy with the most points last week. But honestly, I think that it's, you know, I think that that's a good call with Tucker. Like, the upside is certainly there.

And even though he might be in a three-headed monster backfield, like maybe he won't be. Maybe the coaches will actually do the right thing here. So you're going to take, you're going to take Tucker. I'm going to take Tracy. Sure. I'll take real quick just to throw, rattle off a few other guys here. Alexander Madison is like basically the Raider starter. That doesn't mean a whole lot because one game stinks.

Kamani Vidal is a stash potential guy because Gus Edwards is on the IR. J.K. Dobbins, extensive, long injury history. Dobbins has a really, really valuable fantasy role. If he were to miss time, I think Vidal is going to inherit a huge. huge role. So he's kind of like moved into that really high end, high value handcuff range. He's a guy. Totally winning player, Camani Vidal. He's usurped Gus Edwards. They literally put Kamane Vidal out there to see what he does in the passing game. And the first touch was a 30-yard touchdown on a wheel route. And it's really rare for day three running backs to be contributing

the passing game because they, but they trust him to block for Justin Herbert and they trust Kamani Vidal to catch passes and he has the size to be a goal lineback. He actually has this weird profile, it'll be a three down back. If J.K. Dobbins gets hurt. To your point, Dobbins has missed. He played nine games in the previous three seasons. If you are sitting pretty at like six and O, Camani Vidal is like, that's a league winning guy to keep on your bench.

They're also not like, they're not lightning J.K. Dobbins workload in any way. I mean, he's getting like 20 to 25 carries every game. And then past that, Marshaun Lloyd for the Packers is eligible to come off the IR this week. So he's another potential stash. Do not play him immediately. And then Trey Benson, another guy who got a little bit more run this past week, James Connor has been getting a huge amount of volume. And he's another guy that has an extensive injury history.

So if he were to go down, I think Benson could get a big role. So those are just some stashed type players. And I would also say Jalen Wright. Mike McDaniel mentioned that too, the Tony Waila Lola might come back. And Jalen Wright is a guy who just, again, he's a rookie. He's basically kind of like A. A. Chan last year of A.

H.N. was Mostert. But Mostert's already banged up. A. H.S.N. has a concussion. Jeff Wilson is made of paper machet. And so Jailin Wright's another guy of the Kamani Vidal Ayilkov. If Tua came back and Jailin Wright got the job. Like it's unlikely, but if there's a 20% chance of that, you'd be starting Jailer right every single week.

I like right. And then there's actually a lot of running. Jalen Warren came back for the Steelers this week. I don't think they're going to replace Justin Fields, but if they did, I think Jalen Warren from the moment that just that Russell Wilson took the Steelers quarterback job. Every week Russell Wilson played, Jalen Warren would probably be top two or three in catches that running back every single week. So that's one to keep an eye on.

There's a lot of running backs that like woulda could have shoulda if they, if there's a lot ifs, but there are a lot of guys that have a path to doing something. Yeah. And then also we have Monday and football hasn't happened yet if anything happens to Breece Hall we would take Braylen Allen overall these guys so keep it on that.

Okay. Receiver, DK., who's your number one receiver for this week? Josh Downs still out there for people in their leagues. If he is, he would be my number one guy. The other player that I think is definitely worth adding is Juju Smith-Schuster for the Chiefs. We're back to Juju.

Juju basically kind of inherited the Rishi Rice role in this offense. And we're graduating Josh Downs out of this exercise because if he's probably is that what you're saying? Basically, if Downs is available, you should get him. Right. If not, then Juju.

Yeah, Downs is pretty borderline. He's like right out there, 49%. So let's go with Juju. 32% on Yahoo. Played 67% of the snaps last week, which was second most on the team. Played in the slot 40% of the time. Team high 82 yards after the catch,

eight catch, or sorry, seven catches is 130 yards. I don't know if there's going to carry on, but I feel like you kind of have to take this, take this leap and go with Juju. Yeah, I basically was deciding between these Packers, receivers in Juju because Romeo Dobbs is out there available, came back this week, had two touchdowns.

He's the clear guy in terms of routes and being on the field for the Packers. And then Christian Watson came back from an ankle injury, had a long touchdown. Donavian Wicks is weak to week with the shoulder injury now. So it's now just kind of a three-headed race at wide receiver for the Packers. It's Christian Watson. It's Jaden Reed, who's been awesome. And it's Romeo Dubs. Juju, I don't know, man.

This is one of those situations where, like, next week, they're playing the Niners. Juju could have two targets next week. and I could absolutely see that and be like, what the fuck was I thinking? Juju's been washed for four years. Are they really going to do this? Like this is, this would be an all-time flex if the chiefs are just like,

you know what? We're just going to do it with Juju and Jessica Watson and Xavier Worthy. Well, yeah, I don't know. I think last year was different. I mean, I think having Rishi Rice and younger Kelsey, I do think so was better last year. This year,

I think this is the boldest wide receiver group they've ever like decided to like stick with. Well, I don't think they decided. I think they very much tried. Rice and Hollywood got hurt. Yeah, but like if they stick with this and they don't trade for anybody or bring anybody in, I don't know. I don't know. Are you willing to be like, Juju's the guy I want to spend my fat money on?

I think that the Chiefs being on by made it possible that people might have forgotten about Juju. I think that I think you have to try. I agree with D.K. Because basically it's one of those where if Juju comes back from this by week and they're like, and he doesn't do anything for the next week or two. And you're like, oh, I guess they played him and he did well because he knew the playbook. but they're going to actually be ramping up as aviary worthy and it's going to be kind of like the Packers

where it's going to be something different every week based on the game plan. It's going to be very hard to predict. But if it's the opposite and actually Juju is like, you know, we call the Rams the slow dolphins and it's like Juju's just slow Rishis. He knows the plays.

Him and Mahomes have chemistry as a vet and like he's just actually like the weird number one receiver in the Chiefs. You can't, I don't think you can turn that down, especially if you're in a PPR league where Mahomes is going to be just dumping it off on every play.

So I think you have to see if if Juju does it again, Like, it's the week one test. It's, if Juju has another game where he just gets like 12 targets and catches 11 of them. Yeah. You don't want to have let that go to someone else in your team. I think these other guys, it's whack-a-mole. You know, you were joking about Rishi Rice, like, obviously Rishie Rice is good, but like, I feel like a lot of people could run those routes.

To be clear, I sent these guys like a picture of Rishie Rice's route chart, and I was essentially just like, why can't Sky Moore do this? It's just a bunch of crossing routes. Literally, like, his routes were all just going across the field. with the yards after the catch. And I'm like, I understand that Rice is good. And he's probably one of those players that he's so good, he just makes it look easy.

But also his routes look easy. I'm sorry. Like, it looks easy what he's doing. I don't understand why everyone can't do this. Totally. And so, I don't know. And I think Juju's done that before in his earlier in his career. He's 27 years old.

It's kind of wild. Yeah. So I picked Juju too. And then Craig, you're going, and there's nothing wrong, Christian Watson. I think a lot of people cut Christian Watson. Christian Watson's a crazy player to add off waivers. He's the opposite.

of J-JU. He's like really fast and really strong. I just like Christian Watson. He was one of my guys coming to the season. So get Christian Watt? There's no shame in adding Christian Watson off waivers. I just think it's a much higher upside play. If Christian Watson like pops and is the guy that I think he is

and has shown he has been in the past, I'll do that. Also there's just like love has been playing out of his mind. And Wix is the guy that would have needed to get hurt that would allow Watson to play a lot because those two guys are basically playing like splitting snaps and now that it's, Reed is a guy who only comes in an 11 personnel.

Like, it is just, it is Watson and Dobbs in the outside. And I think Watson's better than Dobbs. And I also, Dobbs, I think the thing with Dobbs too is he had suspended a week ago because he didn't show up to practice. And then he caught the two touchdowns this week. And I think a lot of people might be like add Dobbs. You totally can add Dobbs. I think Dobbs is discount Tank Dell, not that in anything stylistically with Tankdale,

but in that I think he has Jordan Love and have the best connection. But one of the touchdowns Jordan Love had, he was just backfoot, chucked it up. Like, he threw to the pylon. The defendant didn't seem. Yeah, it's a nice catch, but like, it was so lucky, man. Dobbs is not necessarily taking a huge target share or anything. I would do Watson over Dobbs if they blow up potential. He's the best player in this whole episode that we'll mention Christian Watson.

Christian Watson in that DK back campaign of probably volatile, but like really high upside when he really hits, you know? A lot of, I mean, he's one of the, again, he was probably drafted in the top 90 in your leagues. And he's just on waiver. He's like, go get him. He's talented. He got hurt. Oh, so the Malik, he was healthy for Malik Willis. Then he got hurt when Love came back.

Like this was in a way, and the week one, the normal, like the field was messed up. In a way, this was almost Christian Watson's first normal game. Yeah, it's almost Watson's first normal game. He's had two touchdowns with love. There's two games of love. Fuck it. Maybe we should do Watson. All right, Craig's convincing me.

Okay, so you're switching to Watson. I'm not actually against it. I'm going to stick with Juju, but I like, you guys have convinced me more or less. I think that, obviously I just made the case for Juju. I think the flip side to Craig is if Craig's right when we look back on it, Juju was cut from the Patriots. Judu sucks. He's one of the most, like,

athleticly, he's one of the top 10 athletes at the receiver position. Ju-s-sug. That's on a pack of scene. And it's like, yeah. Is Watson good, yes. Is Ju-ju good? No.

Do they both have good quarterbacks? Yes. Are they both on good offenses? Yes. Are they both on good offenses? Yes. Yes. Damn it, Craig.

Fuck. I'm sick at what Ju-ju, but you guys go, do you want to do the Watson thing? I think everyone listening probably, yeah, everyone listening probably. I'm happy to take Watson for free. What a treat. Fuck, Craig's going to witness. Craig's walking away with Tang Biggsby and Watson.

That's pretty crazy. It's pretty good. All right. So, yeah, Juju Showdown Time. All right. It is the Juju-Schoo-Smithshooster showdown time. All right, this one's from Robert. Robbie.

D.K., the other day, you thank Jim Croce. Croce. Croce. It's Jim Croce. Jim Croce. I totally knew that, too. Robert? I mentioned Croce.

Not V-T-W. Whatever. I said, you know what, man. Jim Crocey, Robert writes, Jim Crocey signed his first record deal in 1972. And unfortunately, he passed away September 20th of 1973. How many concerts did Jim Crocee perform in that time span from when he signed in 1972 to September 20th? Wait, how many months was it?

Like a year, a year and a half. So for context, Jim Crocey in that time recorded 34 songs across three albums. So he was busy. In that year? Yeah. So how many concerts did he perform? I feel like there's a reason they would send this. I know.

I have my answer. I do too. Let's just do it then. Damn it. All right. Three, two, one. 10. Oh.

You said one? I was going to say zero, but I was like, that limits myself. Yeah. I feel like it's like one and there's like one epic one. The answer is, oh, 25. 250. Man, this guy's prolific. We definitely went the wrong way with this.

Well, we were right. right to think that something was up. This is what trivia should be. I like it when it's weird. If it was just like 10, it'd be like, oh. So he did a concert more than every other day. Holy Schneikies. That's a lot.

Holy Snikes. That's someone who has a five-year-old child. That's what's when Snikees is like from Chris Farley back in the day. Before my time. I never watched like watched him. That's a shame. That's a shame. Tommy, Tommy Boy, Black Sheep, some of the greater like comedies of all time.

I don't know about Black Sheep. Tommy Boy is the one where he falls down the hill forever. No, that's Black Sheep. Oh. What the hell? What's that all about? He just looks at the hill. D.K., so you said 10 or four?

I said 10. D.K. wins the, I won by default. That one, can we agree that in the trivia rankings, though, we all lose? Like, no one gets a point for that. What? No, I don't think so. We had talked about this. We agreed with the standings that if we're all off by like 100x.

No. I don't know. That's hard. Well, you guys took points for me. You guys both said, one. So how do we decide who gets the well I get done? I get one. I got one of these right in week one and then you guys agreed

I agreed you know what whatever. I'll be I don't remember that. You took the hell yourself. That wasn't on us. Yeah. Fine. Other receivers. I want to just shout out so wait who are you taking? Oh right. I lost. I would take so you get Christian Watson. DK. gets jujuice Schuster. If I needed points this week and I like you know if link neighbors and this is another, if you just need someone this week and you have like Devante Adams and Blake neighbors and you're like

you just need someone to play. Michael Wilson for the Cardinals. Marvin Harrison Jr. is a concussion and the Cardinals' offense. They didn't play that well last week and they're struggling a little. But I think Michael Wilson, again, Demure T. Higgins. I think Michael Wilson's solid and like you can totally plug and play him. It's totally fine. I don't get that. I don't know what to me. I don't know what that means. It's fine. I also, Romeo Dobbs is fine. The other person who threw out Xavier Legget for the Panthers. I love him. He was on this week. I think he's more, he's a lot more volatile, volatile week to week. Panthers defense sucks. The Panthers always going to be thrown. I think Xavier

Leggett is on that short list of rookies that I think could be like fine for two months. And then like Thanksgiving on could like explode. I think everything you wanted to see from Xavier Liggett is kind of there. Liggett, I don't know. But I like I like him a lot. He said his name was Liget, but I can't remember. Wait, I feel like we need to figure out how to make money on Drake May. Like there's, that's what I was going to say.

I'm surprised you guys didn't bring up to Mario Douglas. He had a 29% target rate. Craig and I have mentioned getting it like get in early last week on on Jalen Polk because he was playing the most snaps. he had a really, really rough game. He had a really bad drop. I guess he was messing up on in the blocking game. Mayo was talking about how he just needs to get better at all the details.

This is typical rookie stuff. You just call him Mayo without Gerard or Kurtz. It's pretty fucking funny. Mayo. Mayo was talking. I like that. But he was talking about how basically Polk had a really bad day. And when he watches a tape, he sees Douglas, Kishon Booty, who had a pretty good game in this last week. And then there was another guy, Kendrick Bourne.

And I think those are going to be like the three guys for the Patriots. But right now, by far the most experienced and most reliable guy, DeMario Douglas, he's going to be, he is in the like Juan Dale sort of, you know, PPR scam type of area as a receiver. But like you could do worse in PPR or half PBR. I think that it's a good call of Pop Douglas. He's probably the best receiver in the team. And again, it's weird.

It's weird. I would recommend Jalen Polk while Mayo. He's getting called, imagine getting called up by Mayo. But no, I think that I think the issue with with Pop Douglas was one percent was not taking shots. And then two, frankly, I think the page. Patriots had to trot out a lot of, like, two tight-end sets because they couldn't fucking block. So Pop Douglas wasn't on the field a lot as a slot receiver. But now if they're just going to get rocked every week by some team and they're going to be throwing

from behind, Drake Bay is actually going to be taking shots in garbage time. Yeah, Pop Douglas can rack up a lot of targets. And also, May might get better. Like, Drake Bay might be good. Like, you know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. It's the Tim Robinson. I got to figure out how to make money on this.

Like something, somebody will pop in New England. Pun intended. I think that's a good call. Yeah. Sean Booty's actually playing the most snaps. Would you add Booty over Pop Douglas, though, K-Shaw Booty? No.

Pop Douglas' target shares in the last four weeks, 37, 9, 30, and 29. He's had nine targets in three of his last four games. It's like getting all of the shitty pizza. But I don't know. Is it that shitty now with its drink, man? Yeah, it's kind of like, you know what, Domino's is actually pretty good. 92 yards last week.

Something will, you will make money on one of these guys that's figuring out who. Maybe it'll be Kendrick Boren for all we know. Domino's, I actually, I ordered Dominoes for a party. we had the other day. And dude, first of all, Craig, you joked about this.

Isn't it like 10% of Americans or 12% of the Domino's app and it's like better than most streaming services? Yeah. It's like one of those downloaded apps in America

is it's just Domino's app. Yeah. It's like Netflix, Disney Plus Domino's. Yeah. What? Like they should just put TV on there. I don't know.

I did not know that. They should have like bought Quibi or Quibi. Yeah. Can they start doing content? 100%. Roku should sell you Pete. Dude,

Roku City. Like they should murder. and they Roku City, they should have Adomados, and then, like, they should put Roku shows in the Domino's app. Dude, Walmart's producing television now. Chick-fil-A. What? Yeah.

Walmart and T. What show is Walmart making? They're, like, striking deals with streamers to have, like, if you pay for Walmart, you get Paramount Plus. But they are, like, involved in producing these shows now. Walmart. It's too tight-outs. You're number one tight-out this week.

Uh, um... Like, every week we play it. What's it? What's Owen Wilson's name in Wedding Crusher's, whatever his name is. It's Jeremy and, shit, I can't remember his other name. His name's Owen Wilson. Yeah, he's like, it's Owen. Whatever.

Like, that's how I feel about the tight eyes. I'm just like, whatever. It's the same shit every week. Let's just get through this. Okay. I'm going to go with. Buffering. We're going to say, Taysam Hill is the main, the main guy still to grab.

If his lungs are healthy enough to play in an NFL game, we would be. But let's take him out of this because we don't know for sure for even play. I'm going to go with Noah Fant, I guess. Six targets, six catches, 63 yards. He's going to be all over the place. All these guys are all over the place in terms of like reliability. We can and week out. But, you know, the Seahawks are passing above expectation a ton.

They're getting into shootouts because their defense stinks. I don't know. Yeah, I like no Smith. I guess. I had Zachertz because number one, he got tackled at the one yard line, which is pretty important for his career. But I do think Jaden Damos throws to him. And number two, unlike of these other tight ends,

you won't like want to die watching the commanders. Like at least it's an excuse to be part of the Jane Daniels experience with Zacherts, whereas everything else here is pretty goddamn maddening. What did you be? I didn't go with either of these two. I debated Zach Hertz, but they're playing the Panthers too. Zachert's been consistent.

He just doesn't score. The commanders don't throw the ball in the red zone. They're like running the ball in a historic clip in the red zone. It's really smart, dude. It totally is. I'm just like, I don't think Zachert's never going to score a touchdown this year. I'm going with Hunter Henry. I was, yeah.

He was on my list also. That's probably much smarter than what I did. With a rejuvenated, yeah, Drake May, Hunter Henry is a good Reds on Threat. He's like, all the receivers on New England are like 5-8, and then you have Hunter-Henny. Yeah, I think that's a, yeah,

he is huge and the other ones are. And they're playing the Jags. Yeah, I think it's probably, honestly, it's probably a better pick. I should probably take another Henry. Well, this is the rare case where we all get our picks. Well, yeah, but now I regret, am I allowed to change my mind or now.

If it's changed it to Henry so we can do a, all right, do a trivia. God damn. Okay. All right. It is the Hunter Henry with Drake May. Showdown time. This one's from Josh.

Joshy. Joshua. We have a lot of Joshes. A lot of Joshes. Or it's just one guy who loves the show. The number one disc golfer, disc golfer in the world is a 19-year-old from Iowa named Gannon Burr. Gannon Burr?

Gannon Burr. That sounds like a weird character. And on the disc golf pro tour, Gannon Burr has won 18-Ber. has won eight events, including two majors this year, with one event remaining, and Gannonberg has already shattered the earnings record for a single year

for the PDGA, the ProDisc Golf Association. How much money has Gannonburg earned this year? Is Gannonberg shattering the record for earnings? Is Gannonberg sponsored? I don't know. Does earnings count? Are we talking about earnings on the winning the terms?

The purse. Yeah. I don't want to think we make this clear. What are we talking about how much a player's made or whatever. It's never including taxes. It's always just salary. Or no, it doesn't include taxes either. But no, this is just like

endorsements are not included. It's like when Scotty Schephler made like, oh, $80 million this year. You mean like $200. Yeah, right. Do you think just in general, do you think Gannon Burr is sponsored? Do you think that brand sponsors him? Yes. Yes. The disc, I mean, if the, I mean, there's got to be, I would assume a frisbee company. What's the top disc brand?

Is Nike involved? Or any of the golf brands involved? Dick's sporting goods? Oh, golf? Oh, my God. No, I don't think they'd want to be. No one. No one does that. I like disc golf, you know, but I don't, I don't think titleist is getting in there. No, you don't think so? I've always had a conspiracy theory for what golf companies should invest in, but I don't

think it's this golf. Anything they can make money on Nike is investing in, let's be honest. I remember in my day, everyone was mad because Nike started making skateboarding stuff. Why were they mad that Nike made skateboarding? Because it's like if you buy Nike, you're selling out or something. I don't know. Yeah, that makes sense, actually, because Nike or skateboarding was like counterculture. Oh, yeah, I guess skateboarding is kind of.

I think Craig, I'm curious what you think, but I feel like generationally the biggest, there are obviously, there are large generational divides now. I think the quietest one that's at huge is in the 12 years between you, D.K. and Craig and I, the selling out went from like the worst thing you could do to the goal. To like the ultimate aspirational goal. Like the entire premise of our generation for Craig and I is to sell out. And you guys hated it. And I'm like, what the fuck happened in between us?

It's like, I want to make content. I want to make good enough content to the point where I can do a branded post for McDonald's. Yeah, I just want them to sell. I want my favorite brands to send me stuff. And I'm like, what? Yeah, it's like the subway thing from Matthew Kilmart. Cold cut combo.

Yes. I eat three of these every day. Well, because I think for us, the idea is like, wow, I can do what I want and make a living. If I just have to shill for subway for a couple of times, like that, that's the dream. Yeah. But it's so funny to me. Like, a bunch of sellouts. But in 98, 99, all those protests at the, was,

the World Trade Organization or the world. And I'm just look at those and I'm like, can you imagine that now, like people being like, oh, I can't believe you'd like take money for a commercial. I, I'm even saying there's,

look, we're in a podcast. I obviously, you know, a free podcast that people can listen to. Yeah, let's go. Let's get to the ad.

Yeah. But I'm just saying like I just, that is like a stark of a shift as I can think of. Like the idea of selling it. That is the goal. I don't know. I don't actually remember like people talking about it. It was just kind of like the cultural thing in my generation is like,

selling out is really bad. Like, you should avoid selling out. Like, people, like, even when, like, a big band would sell out and put their song in a commercial, people would be like, oh, they fucking sold out. Like, can't look at them the same ever again. Charlie X-CX just re-released Brat with every single song. She just added a guess first to it. And the literal title is Brat, but it's completely different, but also still Brat just so she could, it all counts as for the same. It's all the same album to be number one for longer.

It's like Taylor Swift. Like, every, it's just the whole thing. Anyway, I'm just talking. I'm guessing. I think there's probably segments of every generation, which is like, you know, quote unquote, like a punk or whatever, counterculture where you're just like, the man is the worst, don't sell out, blah, blah, blah. Like, I'm sure there's segments in every generation that feel that way.

The Wikipedia page for disc golf, the photo is just like a guy. I forgot we were doing a quiz. It's just like a guy in the woods next to a tree in a pair of shorts. and it looks like it was taken on like a camera from 2009. Yeah, maybe there's not a lot of money right now. Wait, yo, do you think that we could like upgrade this photo? Do you think if you listen to this podcast and you play disc golf, if you have a high-res photo,

we must be able to get a better photo than the current Wikipedia page for disc golf. Yeah, we have to, right? Come on. This is like Getty stock image level. Yeah. Email us at Ringer, oh, it's not even getting quality. Emails at Ringar, Fantasy, Football, Gmail.com, if you play disc golf,

and maybe we can try to get one of your photos to be the main disc golf. Gannon. We can try. How much money is Gannon made? The Tiger Woods of Disc Golf. So I'm going to go ahead and just, should I just throw out my logic right now?

No. Okay. God. So he's one. How many majors? Shattered their earnings record for the Disgolf Association of America. ADA, I don't know. And then.

Eight events, including two majors. Okay. All right. Three, two, one. 100 grand. Yeah, 100 grand. I had it in my head. Don't worry. You just heard it. You just heard him say that. No, no, no. I had a hundred grad in my head, but I hesitated for some reason.

Yeah, one of you, one of you's got to go up or down a dollar. I can't, my gut is to let Craig go up or down a dollar because D.K. Sure. Yeah, that sounds good. Craig. Would you say, hi, $60? I said 60. All right. I'll take $100,000 and $1. The answer is. 176,000. See, that's not.

We were actually not off that much. No, so Craig, you get Hunter Henry. And also, there you go. Also, Gannon Burr, if you're a listener. If anyone knows Gannon Burr, definitely contact us. E-mels for you. Gannon Burr. Come on the show.

Aaron Burr. He's 6-6. What? Think about like the torque or whatever the word is you're looking for that you can generate on those throws. Oh, he kind of has like Chet Holmgren vibes. He's thin and tall. How old is it?

He's 19 years old. He's 19. This guy's phenomenal. He didn't give a fuck about selling out. He'll sell out to anyone. He's desperately trying to sell out. You know what I like about disc golf? I actually have a chain right here.

The sound of it hitting the chains. Oh, yeah. It is really. Same with the best, like a chain link net. Do the opening of space jam with the swishes? Oh my God. Nothing bad.

All right. So anyway, I come in last. D.K., you pick a tight end. So Craig gets Hunter Henry. And then, no, you picked. I picked a fan anyway. So I get Zachert's anyway. All right.

Honestly, God's, I was out here retweeting old, uh, Ertz break a tackle. Instagram, the Instagram account from back in the day when he was on the Eagles. There's an Instagram or sorry, Twitter account that was just diderts break a tackle and it was just a bunch of nope and no and nah and it's hilarious.

I'll and Kate Otton for the bucks if you want, but whatever, good luck out there with tight ends. The tight ends are back. Maybe you're, you're okay now. By the way, Gannon Burr is sponsored by Discmania.

Discmania. If anyone listening wants Discmania, you know, out to Discmania. I think disc golf is really fun. Throwing a Frisbee is like one of the harder activities that you can play right now. It's very hard to just like nail a Frisbee toss.

It's one of the least fun things to like go play catch with a friend. Frisbee's bottom of my list. Because you both need to be good. So you can't throw a Frisbee. You just end up chasing that goddamn thing. I'm very, very average at throwing a Frisbee. I can't forehand. My back end's pretty solid.

But I can't, I've never my life been able to throw it like just a little wrist. No. And it's like you're not. going to play a catch with your friend or play frisbee with your friend unless you're both good. If one person's bad, it ruins the whole situation. I had a friend, shout out. I'm going to just throw my friend Sarah totally under the bus, but she asked us if she wanted

to, hey, do you want to do this like work frisbee league we have? Like, do you want to, some people can't make it? My boss has this going on. Will you come play in this game? I was like, oh, maybe when is it? She's like, it's like nine o'clock on a Friday night. And I'm like, when is it? She's like, tomorrow.

And I'm like, what time? She's like, 8 a.m. And I'm like, where? She's like, yeah, it's like 90 minutes away. Damn. And I'm like, no, Sarah. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?

Are you not going to tell me those details? Shouts out my buddy Alec, who was on the ultimate frisbee team at San Diego State. I have a lot of friends that play frisbee. Look, if you could throw a frisbee well professionally, it looks pretty cool. Chick-Magnet. Email us more trivia. Austin Gale just texted us. I was on that team.

Oh, yeah, shit. Austin was on that team. What the fuck? I knew that, actually. Austin knows my friend Alec. Like, I didn't know Austin, but I knew Alec and Alec knew Austin. So we were very close. Austin and I were at school at the same time.

I got to see Austin throw a Frisbee now. Maybe we'll bring Austin on the show to talk zero football and just Frisbee. Just solely a frisbee. Think about how close Austin and I were to meeting. I spun disc heavy. Austin to me. Austin's all forearm when you look at him. You know he's got a lot of power.

A lot of torque. RPM's on that thing. Top notch. Spin on that thing. You just say spin on that thing? I did say that. You know, he said spin on that thing. I know, yeah, that was good.

Spin on that thing. You got to walk to a pole and vote on that thing. Do you guys feel intimidated like some of our listeners might lose to her podcast? Are you worried about Hawk to a girl getting in the pod game? Yeah, buddy, she has the biggest podcast in the world right now other than Joe Rogan. Fuck. Yeah, are we worried about it? I've been worried.

Hawk, too, is walking all over us right now. Walk to a pole and vote on that thing. The Hawk, too. It could be that racist. That was just a meme thing. If Hillary Clinton were running right now, she would definitely have said that. Pokemon, go to the polls.

Do you guys if you want to do quarterback streaming? Fuck it. Herbert? May? Dalton? I think Drake May for the running. I think Craig May if you can't stomach it. He's probably the Cardinals.

No. I think Herbert, dude. I think Drake may, because there will be interceptions in three and ounce, but I think that Drake May will probably run a lot, like, a lot of garbage time. of runs. It'll be like that Trubisky, Blake Bordel's, like... Messy but fun. Yeah, don't, yeah. But you can watch him play. Dude, D.K., Justin Herbert's been worth into Sean Watson this show. All right.

Fancy. Look, I said fine. All right. Leave me alone. I also think Daniel Jones probably, I mean, he's going to have to start running to save his... They're going to, Brian Dable's going to do the thing where they just start running Daniel Jones to get him hurt so he doesn't play anymore. So... What's the insurance policy situation for Daniel Jones? Daniel Jones's whole contract is Job walking out of the pet store with the Duff. of and he walks into the door that you have to pull and he kills the doves like what's your return policy do not eat all right defenses this week uh to the point i do think the charge's defense against

the cardinals defense the cardinals offense i think that's a good one cardinals is struggling i like i like the charge's defense bill's defense spare me if this is awful but and before i'm on at football so i apologize if the jets do really well but the bill's defense they're playing the titans dude will levis still will levis he still will levising i i think the bills i will take the bills defense versus Will Levis. And also, Bengals defense is pretty bad, but they're playing the Browns,

like Deshawn Watson, again, as Austin has noted over and over. Brown's offense is, I mean, it is without actual exaggeration more of the worst offenses in the 21st century. And the one I can't get over

is that they had 25 third downs in a row. They didn't convert. And we literally were texting about this and we thought, we were wrong. We're like, oh, well, that's not possible.

Like, Shirley, Deshawn Watson's like, oh, for his last 25. No, they Browns went to actually 27 third downs in a row without converting. And don't call me, Shirley. So I think the Bengals defense

All right I was just like cracking up to myself Last night thinking about Austin Just like Putting down the power grid Because he's doing these searches For like terrible Deshaun Watson stats Yeah the amount of like AI

That's been used to like There's rolling brownouts across Nevada Because Austin's doing these searches The grid is threatened It's like flickering Austin's like in the lab Cooking up these stats Going back to 1940 to find a quarterback

who was worse than Deshawn Watson. The amount of computing power it takes to find these stats on Deshawn Watson. Hyvitz, are you aware that Daniel Jones has a $23 million insurer injury guarantee for 2025? Yeah, I'm kidding about that. They don't actually want to get Daniel Jones hurt. No, but yeah, of course, because I think that's why I was saying that I think that Drew Locke would be starting for that Thanksgiving Cowboys game because it's the same thing the last two years where we saw Derek Carr bench for the Raiders and then Russell Wilson bench.

Ironically, both of those guys were bench for Gerrits did him, but they didn't want to pay those guys. Basically, if they get hurt, they get paid, but if they're healthy, they don't get paid, which is how fucked up the NFL is. But Daniel Jones has that. So yeah, it's like 19 million to cut him, but if he gets hurt, it's like 40. So fuck that. Benches ass. Going well. We're so back. Give me Drewlock. I'm not even kidding. Get in here, Kai. What's up guys? What's up, King? So, Kai, when we're in Los Angeles, we're going to tally all this stuff up for this season. We're going to be in Los Angeles next week. And we're going to, we're going to tally the stakes here. or that you're going to have to eat something of our choosing

and we're going to have to eat something of your choosing. And I won again this week. So let's just put that out there. Fuck, really? Unless Tyler Conklin has like a 30 burger. Can't wait to go to one of the best food cities in the entire world and eat like a turkey on like whole wheat. High quality turkey though.

It's true. High quality turkey. Trivia total update for you. Craig has eight. He's in first right now. DK's in second with six and high fits is four. I'm kind of nicey right now, trivia-wise. feeling nice.

You got me feeling really nice. I couldn't get eight in warmups. Shred him, shroud. Eight points in six weeks? I could do that. Bring a warm up. Oh my God. I think it's the best content that exists ever.

Craig's got eight. I've got six. How much does Hyphitz have? Hyphitz has four. All right. And then how do we do with the waivers competition? Last week, Hyphids pick, Tank Biggsby, Jalen Tolbert,

and Noah Fitz. to combine for 18 points. Honestly, all three had had pretty decent outings. Craig had Tray Sermon, Michael Wilson, and still Tyler Conklin left to play with 12 points. And then D.K. crushed it.

Tyrone Tracy, Josh Down, and Kate Otton for 44.2 points. Hell yeah. I'm torn this week because I have won two times in a row, two weeks in a row with D.K. I've got a winning street going here. But I also, it's against my religion to pick a team with Juju Smith's

Schuster, so I'm just like... What? Damn it. Why did I know that? Why do you hate Juju? I don't know. I just think he's corny. I mean, that's true. Yeah. You're just jealousities to sell out to the TikTok dances. Juju, all-time flame out.

Like, talk about a guy who really thought he was going to be a big deal on the field and off, and it kind of both just crumbled. High Fitzpick, Sean Tucker, Michael Wilson, and Zach Ertz. D.K's got Tyrone Tracy, Juju Smith-Schuster, and Noah Fant. And Craig has Tank Bigsbee, Christian Watson, and Hunter Henry. My team's pure sex. Just saying,

Kai, my team is nice. Craig's lobbying. You know what? We're going to go to DK again. I'm going to go until the wheels fall off. Let's do it. Let's run it back. Boom.

All right. We're in LA, Kai. We're going to have you eat some weird shit. We're going to put it on the Instagram at Ringer Fantasy football, which is better than Gruden's TikTok. Don't even bother Gruden's TikTok.

We're going to do it. We're going to do a full seafood tour, scallops, oysters, Brandzino. Kai brought up the idea of eating the cinnamon toast crunch flavored bacon that somebody shared with us on Instagram.

I thought it was just bacon. Cinnamon toast crunch bacon. Cinnamon toast crunch bacon. All right. You know what? That sounded weird, but it's just kind of like cinnamon bacon. I feel like I've seen that in Trader Joe's.

Yeah, I mean, that's what it is. It's just like, yeah, the rub on it, I guess, unfortunately, instead of just cinnamon and whatever else has fucking crushed up cinnamon toast crunch. Craig, do you feel? We're being hyper-targeted by companies that have realized that they can really, really co-brand our childhood nostalgia into adult products, like into oblivion. I feel like we're in like an all-time.

I know. It's so sad, but it works. Nostalgia plays. Like, I'm victim to it. Did you see they're selling the crabby paddy now? Yes. Dude, yeah. It's everywhere.

Is that a square pants thing? SpongeBob is what we refer to Hibaz. I know him personally. So I call him his last name. Like, is that a square pants? Is that Mr. Squarepants? you're referring to? You're the first person

of the history of mankind to call him square pants. Also, you saying his last name, like an obviously ridiculous last name very seriously. Is that that square pants? Are you referring to

Dr. Squarepants? You know what's funny? I saw the commercial for the crabby patty. There's no advertisement for like why it's different than a normal burger. And I guess the show doesn't either.

No one cares. Which is made with love. It's just made with love. They're just like crabby patty, try it out. It just looks like a burger with cheese, lettuce, onion. I saw someone talking about all the AI

art and they're like this SpongeBob episode where like the wizard who can mass produce burgers and he makes like 10 million and then SpongeBob spends the same amount of time making one burger is literally explains the entire AI art thing. Which is like, you know what? People want something He's tucking the pickles in, reading them a lullaby to go to sleep.

I have to say, I always thought the episode where they find out that jellyfish jelly on a burger is amazing always seemed looked so delicious to me. The jellyfish jelly on the burger looked amazing and that's what they should be trying. That's what they should say. Dude, yes.

Yes. It's a thing. I mean, people do like onion jam, bacon jam. It's already close. We're close. They should have done that. No,

that's a good call. Because, like, I feel like, you know, they got like Ube sauce as big right now. Yeah. Just do again. Yeah,

onion jam as the jellyfish. Yeah, that's really good. That's, they kind of half-assed the crabby paddy. They didn't full ass it. Unfortunately, that was probably too,

you know, risky and they wanted to sell kind of more broadly. That's the thing. They're afraid. They did a SpongeBob crossover and they were afraid to be weird on the show that has a kid show that called Bikini Bottom. Yeah, but they were like, some kids going to be like, I don't want to try onion jam.

I want a fucking cheeseburger. You don't tell them it's onion jam. You tell them it's jellyfish jelly. Yeah, maybe it would have worked. They should have tried it. I thought it always looked tasty. Did you guys see the TikTok trend going where like people will pull up to order it, but they'll just play the goofy goober song?

You know why I'm here. I'm a goofy goober. Rock. Dun-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Can I have just kind of nodding along when we've seen this, but we have it. You don't know, well, you know the song. Yeah, you know the song. You know the Goofy Goober song, right?

I've no idea with the Goofy Goober Rock song from the SpongeBob SquarePants movie. Clearly not a SpongeBob fan. Oh, okay. That song's good. It's a banger. The sneaky show of SpongeBob is the music is like the best thing about the show. I was just going to say the sponge rock music bangs. Like the halftime show, you know, sweet.

Oh my God. Those people did the amount of drugs to make the show requires having great music music. Sweet victory is like legitimately one of the better rock songs ever made. It played at the Super Bowl briefly. What is it called? Scoop 3? Sweet victory.

What? What? The world. Okay. Scoop three? I love that. I love like super overqualified like musicians playing for children's shows.

I was talking to you guys about this the other day. Yeah. What's his name from InSink? Did My Shiny Teeth and Me for the Fairly Odd Parents? Chris Kirkpatrick. That's unbelievable. He's Chip Skylark. Oh yeah.

I forgot about it. It's so weird to be that SpongeBob is SpongeBob now, but Family Odd Parents was erased from time, even though Fairly Odd Parents is pretty ahead of its time. Totally. Great show. Great show. D.K.'s just has never been more silent in the history of this podcast. I don't know anything about what you're talking about. Onion Jam on the Craby Patty.

I really want to try it. That's really good. All right. Wait, can I read an email here from Kyle? Kyle. So we emailed people asking if anyone knew Land Clark. And again, Land Clark, the ref, runs municipal. building code for the city of Albuquerque.

So we're like, well, someone here listens to, someone here lives in Albuquerque. Kyle says, I grew up in Albuquerque. I no longer live there, but most of my family still does. My brother-in-law works in home building and knows Land Clark. Yeah. And I asked, do you have any fun stories to share? And he said he didn't because Land has retired.

And I feel like now we should just refer to him as Bland Clark. Hey. Hey, yo. I want to know about how long did he go by Land Clark? Was he always land from birth or? did he go by his birth name, which I'm forgetting. Land did? I don't know. So they also got an email from Troy, though.

Troy. Troy. And Troy said, I live in Albuquerque. My father works at the city. And my father knows Land Clark. Okay. Wow. And my father's father and brother.

I feel like we are all powerful on this show. We can find out anything. Six degrees of Kevin Bacon. Do you know Kevin Bacon? We should do that. Let's be honest. Fuck. Should we just see?

Mill if you know Kevin Bacon. Actually, Loki. I have a connection to Kevin Bacon. Oh, you do? You don't have to go very far. How many degrees is it? Like three? It's pretty good.

Yeah. Should we build out a Matrix of like how far we are connected to everybody in the world? We should try to find the hardest person to connect with and see if we can use our listeners to get there. That is actually a fun game. Like, can we like playing who's the most famous person in your phone? Like, can we get to Elon? on Musk somehow. I'm sure we have people

work for Elon Musk. The actual hardest person is probably like Kim Jong-un. Jesus. That's definitely the hardest person. Sure. Can we get to Gunner Burr? Yo, if anyone knows. No, it's Gannon-Bur.

Sorry. Gannon. The ultimate disc led the Scottish Shephler of Ultimate Disc. He should change it to Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com. Anyway, yes. The guy's dad knows Land Clark said that when he watches the games, doesn't really, he loves football, but all he does is pay attention. to when Land Clark comes on the TV.

And then he points, he's like, that's Land, I know him. And then his wife just rolls her eyes. The Neo meme. And yes, and he just like tells the story of how he got to know Land and then how Land got into refereeing and his wife doesn't fucking care.

And it happens every Sunday. God, yeah, love it. We haven't learned anything about land, though. Yeah, he's kind of a mystery. Enigma, if you will. I also, I don't know if you guys saw this, but we got an email from Jessica. Jessica.

Jess. Delta handed out pretzels on Jessica's flight. and it's literally said on the pretzel bag, do you guys think clouds are light and fluffy? Think again, a cumulus cloud weighs 1.4 billion pounds. Come on. Set it on the pretzels of the Delta flight.

Well, there's our six degrees of separation to Delta. Somebody's working at Delta listen to our show. Spotify has a partnership with Delta, bro. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's right. You can listen to the rewatchables on your Delta flight. I had to pick a bunch of movies that didn't have plane crashes in them.

I chose those movies. Get the fuck out. Yeah, yeah. I curated that list. baby on Delta. Yeah, and I had to make sure there was no, there was no like, you know,

storylines about a plane crash. I don't want to be seeing a plane crash on a plane. That's a good, that's a good note. You can listen to flying coach too. Oh. Nice.

Yeah. A couple other things, I think, as well. I like Chautau Delta, my favorite airline. Free advertising. I don't care. Selling out, baby. Email, so where you're fancy

football to email to come. That's how much of a sellout I am. I don't even do it again. You don't have to pay me. Craig. You know, the term for when you don't even have to get paid. Give out.

Handout. Yeah. Handouts. All handout. I think people do that. You know those people who you follow on Instagram who have like a thousand followers, but they're making like a branded post for Macy's? And you're like, what's going on here?

Like those people are essentially like offering their services to Macy's to potentially then get a real paid sponsorship. So people are literally doing it for free to seem legitimate. Fake it today make it. Yeah. Email us at Ringerman Fantasy Football at Gmail. come send us your fantasy courts and again if you want to tune to the the youtube that's ringer NFL YouTube live on Tuesday nights follow us on Instagram please follow us on Instagram and

TikTok it's not as good as the time I think Hyvids is now repelling people from our social media oh yeah okay fine all right don't fall incessant pining I mean we don't fucking care if you follow or not man there it is that's what you need shit so do or don't we don't care yeah we don't yeah we don't fucking care yeah we don't think you dK thank you kank carlos for producing this episode thank you Austin for all your weird fucking Brown stats. Thank you, Kira. He wrote an article on it.

It's on the ringer.com. Oh, he did. Yeah, there you go. Austin wrote a weird article on the Browns. Next week, we'll get Austin out on the frisbee field. Austin also has filed a column to the ringer about raw dogging flights, just like he just, he did it twice to and from New York because he's a psychopath and he actually like sat there with his thoughts for six hours.

Just stared at the front of the thing. He wrote it. So that'll be on the ringer soon too. Thank you, Lauren. Lauren. Thank you, Tom Petty. Oh, nice. And the heartbreakers.

Love Tom Petty. Yeah. Jackie's favorite artist is Tom Petty. Oh. Well, Fleetwood and Stevie Nix are 1A and then Tom Petty's. Do you know what Jackie's favorite song is? Wildflowers. Wildflowers.

And obviously Won't Back Down is obviously all time. Jackie made a great case that Won't Back Down is like the ultimate like top down in a convertible song. Like if you're just driving on a road trip and you're just like looking up at the sky. Like Won Back Down is pretty legendary. I mean, Duff. Free Fallen. I feel like Free Fallen has been in like three different movies where the characters like driving on the freeway singing Free Fallen.

RIP. RIP. I'm just kind of sad. I don't know where to go from here. Let's all listen to some Tom Petty. Kai, play us out with Petty, please. Thank you. How much can we play till we get sued?

20 seconds. 20? Can we get rid of 20? Yeah, we can do 20. Fuck. All right, cool. You sure? I mean, they could be pretty litigious.

That would be. fine. Fated out. It'll be good. We're talking about Tom Petty. We're promoting him. We're not profiting off of him. Bang. We love Tom Petty. Thomas Petty. Goodbye, everyone. Must be 21 plus and present in select states for Kansas

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