The Ringer NFL Show - Waiver Wire Pickups for Week 8 and We Talk Tua

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

The guys react to Tua Tagovailoa’s comments ahead of his return from injured reserve (1:50). Next, SHOWDOWN TIME! Must-add players at each position ahead of NFL Week 8 (16:08). Plus, emails (46:05)! RB: Jaylen Warren (Steelers), Kimani Vidal (Chargers), and Tyler Goodson (Colts) (16:35) WR: Jauan Jennings (49ers), Romeo Doubs (Packers), and Jalen Tolbert (Cardinals) (27:34) TE: Hunter Henry (Patriots), Zach Ertz (Commanders), and Noah Fant (Seahawks) (36:59) QB: Drake Maye (Patriots) (45:22) D/ST: Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, and Los Angeles Chargers (45:48) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producers: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We're in person. We have Diet Coke Coke, Oreos. Coke Zero Oreos. Coke Zero Oreos. But first, this actually will be the biggest mix of serious and silly we'll probably ever have on the show. We do have to hit the, honestly, one of the bigger news of the whole season, which is that. So Tua is coming back.

from injured reserve from the concussion. Obviously, he had the concussion on Thursdaysaint football versus the bills and weirdly hit DeMarhamman, of all people, and then obviously had the issues with the fencing stuff again. And so Tua is probably going to come back this week in week eight. And Tua had a press conference. It's basically the first time we've heard from Tua personally. Yeah, give me the rundown because I, for the last two hours,

have been watching a scary movie for the rewatchables. So I have not caught up on the Tua situation. So I saw a bunch of clips. I saw a lot of quotes, but I want to know how he came off. He heard him. What do you think, D.K.? I think my first reaction was, like, strangely defiant to, I think, the narratives and, like, the pressure or whatever. His perception that people are wanting him to retire after having this many concussions in a short amount of time.

And it felt like he was just, like, essentially saying, look, everything in life is dangerous. Everything has its dangers. You have to weigh those dangers and move forward with your life. He loves football. He wants to continue to do it. He kind of compared it to, you know, getting in a car. and driving, which obviously people are going to react to that the way that they react. The exact quote he says, how much risk do we take when we get up in the morning and drive

to work? You can get in a car accident and everything takes risks. So he's, I would say like a little defiant is kind of like how I took it. Offensive. Yeah. Also, and he said he's not going to wear the protective helmet, right? That is the other. So, and again, we're recording this Monday. Which is funny, because if you want to make the car analogy, that's like getting into a car

without a seatbelt. Yeah. So Monday, again, we're recording this Monday at one Pacific 4.13 p.m. Eastern and a lot could change between now and then. it seems right now that Tua is not going to wear the guardian cap. And right now they have these big clunky looking pads, basically, put around your helmet to loss off in the blow on the helmet. And it seems like they do reduce concussions.

Obviously, there's no safe way to play football fully. They do reduce concussions. There's going to be a weird situation where Devon A. Chan, who also had a concussion a couple weeks ago, A Chan's going to wear a guardian cap going forward in the same backfield, and Tua will not. And there's a whole conversation about stuff because, look, athletes are creatures of habit.

And so whether or not it affects your timing of, you know, you get the ball out in 2.2 seconds and 2.4 is kind of late. Even if you think that it's going to make you late, that also makes you late. But it's a little weird. It also feels like it has nothing to do with that.

I agree. Exactly. I totally agree. He's like, I don't think he's worried it's going to worsen his play. I think it's more about that showing that he is nervous, concerned,

and admitting that he has a problem. Yeah, it's plain, yeah. Is it like capitulating or something? There's a fear that you're playing scared in a sport of tough guys. And also, first of all, going back to Alabama, the hip injury, like, availability is the best ability. So forgetting that it's a brain injury on the table here, like, just wanting to be there. And then on top of it, there is a macho-alpha machismo, like, toughness thing here at play, absolutely.

And the idea that, like, oh, like, I'm weak. I need, like, different stuff. Like, I'm not saying that's good or anything, but obviously that a lot of NFL players are, like, looking at it that way. But, yeah, it's kind of nuts to think you're going to watch. the dolphins on Sunday and Tua won't be wearing this guardian cap. Isn't it crazy that the NFL figured out a way to reduce concussions by... Well, they didn't. Someone else did it again. Whatever. The NFL is adopting or, you know, offering it to people. You can implement this. Becoming more common. Yes. And isn't it odd

that it's not a mandate? I imagine this has to be coming soon. It's moving in that direction, I feel like. I don't understand. We basically are like, so there's a helmet that protects your head more, but it's a choice. Why? Why is that the case? Because they're finicky. Because it looks stupid. It's new and it looks dumb. That's crazy. It makes your head look big. It makes your head look big. So do helmets.

Everyone. Yeah, well, that like they have. We got used to that. Well, the actual answer is it's an $18 billion business and things move slow. And you also have to get guys to do. Again, there's an element of this conversation that it's almost like we're kind of almost like blaming athletes for their brain injuries now. And there's like the reality is like it is to his decision.

It is up to him. Like I think this is a weird moment where it is his decision he can be as informed us, you know, he can be of this. like everyone in the world plea. I'm sure it's weird from his perspective to come back. And the whole world's like, you should retire. Like Antonio Pierce, the coach of the Raiders is just like, yeah, I wouldn't play. That is wild that he said that actually, yeah.

All the former players, like that Thursday football game, Richard Sherman, the words that stuck with me were he was basically, look, you hear from everyone in the world. They don't matter. Even your family, you know, your mom is an opinion. Your dad is an opinion. The people who really matter are your wife and your kids because they're the ones we're going to have to deal with you. And that's like real life. And so there is something about. that where it's like the decision.

No, his kids are too young. These kids are like infants, but it is like something between you and your wife. And it's weird for all these people to be weighing in on this. But it's also weird for us to watch too. You know what I mean? Like the flip side is I don't know how I can ever just purely watch the 70 point dolphins again from last year. You know what I mean?

Like it's kind of like you're going to watch the dolphins through your fingers for like every game that two it plays for the foreseeable future. I feel very conflicted about it. Because on one hand, like if you want to play devil's advocate and like take his point of view, it's like, it's like, how is this that different from watching, you know, like super dangerous extreme sports, like bull riding or boxing,

MMA, these guys are getting absolutely knocked out. Motorcycle racers or NASCAR or F1 or whatever. Like all these things have really, really obvious apparent risks. Like you could die in any given event. And so from that point of view, if you're like you're putting yourself in his shoes,

like he's like, stop telling me what I can do or not do. Yeah. But also from, I think a lot of, people, maybe most people's point of view, it's like, man, are you aware of what this is going to do maybe for your long-term health? And like, we should, maybe someone needs to, like, actually force him to stop playing? I think that it's like a really hard conversation. I mean, look, there's cognitive dissonance in all of these contact sports. You know,

you have to kind of just understand what you're watching a little bit and kind of accept it to enjoy it because, you know, the guy in the Packers gang got stretched it out. And everyone's sitting there being like, okay, and then you hear the announcer come on and be like, okay, third and four. And they're like, hey, he has movement in all his extremities. And you're like, okay, I don't have to like spend the whole game wondering if this guy's dead or not. You can go back. The cognitive distance is key to all this. Because I think, frankly, a lot of the fear or worry you have with Tua when it comes out is we know that football's probably a terrible game.

Like, the weirdest part of the whole CTE discourse is like, I feel like 10 years ago when it came out. It was like a bombshell. But now we just kind of all like, you're like, yep, we know and like moved on. Like there's weird things. I mean, Antonio Brown has started a fake meme. media company that he calls hashtag C-T-E-S-B-N and post about it all the time. And it's really strange, honestly, where we're at, where it's just so weird that it's easier for us to kind of just, frankly, like, it's supposed to be our entainment.

It's supposed to be a distraction from the world. And watching Tua, I think there's so much like, oh, you should retire, take care of because he's kind of a reminder to us that this isn't as pure as we wanted to be. It's like they're not just fantasy football players. Like, they're not just guys. Like, there are our lives and families here that are at risk. and we're kind of like hoisting that upon Tua. I also think it's because the fencing thing,

like the way Tua's body has responded to these concussions is different than what happened to like the league neighbors when he was concussed three weeks ago. Just like what it looks like is kind of so visually disturbing. Right. It's unfortunately he has become the poster child for this whole thing. And so exactly on that term poster child, that was the other thing you mentioned this press conference that I think is,

it's weird, man. DK, you had seen this before me, but basically Tua basically was like, I don't want to be known as the concussion guy. And I will not even lie. I'm just going to share my actual first thought. This is messed up. But my first thought when I read that was Craig joking a couple weeks ago,

but something else. And he was like, oh, man, who's going to tell him? Yeah. And like, I know that's like a mean thing. But that was my honest first thought. I was like, of course he's going to be known as the concussion guy. And maybe, you know, he'll go on and, you know, Carlos is here, huge Dolphins fan.

Maybe Tua will go on and have a wonderful career and bring the dolphins a Super Bowl. But the harsh reality is like, Tua is kind of going to be, known as the concussion guy. And, like, that also is probably a play here with the guardian cap guy, the guardian cap thing. It's like he's had to be, I mean, it's like Nick Chubb talking about that injury. It's really weird to it open any social media platform and CNN is talking about him. Yeah.

And so you wear the guardian cap and you're like, I'm the concussion guy. Who wants to be the concussion guy? No one wants to be the concussion guy. Well, then wear the cap. Well, no, but I think he's, I think it's kind of like, if you wear the cap, you are the concussion guy. Well, I get it. I'm not saying, I'm just saying, like, it's a very weird situation and frankly, a very weird

sport. We're to your point. They're stretching this, you know, they're stretching this jet's line. It's like a ghoulish sport. Craig and I were talking about this yesterday. Literally, like you mentioned, it's like in almost like in passing. He's like, don't worry. He has feeling in all his extremities. We're like, oh, good. Oh, cool. Okay. Anyway, I can get back to hoping Tank Dell catches the past. And also

goolish is a great word, DK, because I think that the other thing, while we're just here, like, just our dumb show where we do like Gus Johnson impressions, like, while we're just like under. We're going to play fantasy trivia. here in a lot. Yeah, we're going to do like trivia about like Bambi and stuff. But like looking under the rug and everything right now of just like what's under here, it's like the other part of football and like, especially just covering football is that it's hard to explain to people. It's not just that these guys are like elite level athletes, but like anything else, when you're at that elite elite athleticism facing other elite athleticism, the edge is mental and how much of it you're able to unlock. And the reality is tapping into adrenaline and primal instinct and the things that people have to believe to play football, you have to inhabit a character. You have to inhabit a character. when you walk into the field. Ray Lewis, he's not my words. Ray Lewis, he inhabited comatists from Gladiator

because it was his way of getting past the whole like Super Bowl controversy was like the crowd. You know what? I'm going to have to entertain the crowd or else they'll hate me. Like George Kittle and like all these guys talk about being the Joker because they were like basically feel like they have to be a terrorist to play football. Like Jamie Collins, he used to be the Patriots linebacker told me

that playing football, he's like, he has a giant Joker tattoo. And I asked him why. And he's like, because, I am a loving family man with a wonderful daughter who I love when I'm at home. And when I step onto the lines, I have to be a monster. And it's a monstrous sport where, you know, I remember Albert Hainsworth had said something about how the coaches in the sideline

to hype him up would be like, these guys are trying to take food out of your children's mouths. That's what these guys. That is football, it's a messed up sport in so many ways. And then also on top of it, it's also weird that all these guys in your fantasy teams are like, I don't know how they're going to age. You know, you think about all these like, oh, name that guy. I don't know what these guys are up to, you know, nowadays.

It's a really weird thing. Yeah, it's heavy. And it's frankly, I hate to say it. Every Dolphins game going forward. And that's... You're just going to be, like, hoping it doesn't happen. Of course. It was already that way.

Yeah, yeah. And that's my most honest way of how I feel about Tua. I want Tua to take this season off or at least the moment the dolphins are eliminated because I feel guilty about watching football, about all this stuff where I'm like, this is awful. And I don't want to be partaking in... Tua being another, just like 2022, he came back from the concussions and he got a third

concussion in December. And I feel like the idea of like Tua getting another concussion in later this season after the dolphins have been eliminated, frankly, I don't know, like I'm just being honest. I don't know how much if it's a good person I care about Tua. The most honest I could be is I feel guilty partaking in Tyree Kill, great trade target for later this year. If you are five and And sticks in on your fantasy team. Stash Tyree Kill and stash, you know, Rahim Moster if someone wants to get rid of him because it'll be later in.

I'm like, oh. So how do I make money off of this? How do I make money off this? How do I arbitrage this guy's concussion thing? I'm like, so I don't know if I'm any good person for wanting to go away. I would like him to go away so that I don't feel bad watching football. Do you think the Andrew Luck thing,

him retiring early, like put a lot of this into context because Andrew Luck was a huge superstar who stepped away because he was just like, my body's taking enough. The pain. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, like, because that was like kind of the biggest high profile example of that. And how long ago was that?

2018. Oh, this is my only day off in the month of August. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, I think there's a lot of people now, including myself, who see that. And you're like, this is pretty obvious to a, like, you got more money than you'll ever need. You know what I mean? There were very few retired players who were saying to I should keep going.

Yeah. But also, none of those retired players necessarily. There was actually really, those pregame shows are always a little whack. but like ESPN had a great, Teddy Bruskey had a great, Teddy Bruskey, I thought, had the best to a take of anyone because Teddy Bruce got strokes

and went back and he had a conversation with his wife about going back. And again, that's the one that matters the most, right? Like, your wife is more important than the other seven billion people

on the planet. And Teddy Bruskey's wife basically was like, absolutely not. And what they agreed to was three second rule. She was like, when he's on the ground, he has three seconds to get up because she's like,

I can't live watching you through my fingers, waiting every play for you to get off the ground. And like, that's what these guys are dealing. with. If Tua retires, do you think he or Hock Tua girl have more poll to get the naming rights for the podcast, Talk Tua? Do you think that that is what Tua's career should be? It's like,

talk to a podcast name already. It is Tocua. But if Tua wants Talk Tua, no, they should do it together because think about what they could do together. Like, it should be Tua and her, I feel like together, that's a pretty, like, they're better together than a part. Talk, is it still just called, it's called, it's Talk Tua. Yeah. It's Talk Tua. Yeah. It's Talk toa. Yeah. It's Talk toa. Yeah. Talk to a poll Vote on that thing Talk to a Tua

Talks to a Tua Wow That's pretty good All right Well anyway We got to figure out of The segue as anything

I know That was my attempt To lighten the loo It was pretty good Yeah Should we cut to one of our Dumb political ads We made up

We didn't make those up No I mean sorry That we're being paid Very well for it Yes Yeah yeah Yeah okay Russell Wilson

Says he brings Leadership to Pittsburgh Yet all of Russell Wilson's former team hate his guts. Richard Sherman wouldn't piss in Russell Wilson's ear if his brain was on fire.

Justin Fields would have given Marshall Lynch the ball at the goal line in the Super Bowl. Russell Wilson, dangerous for Pittsburgh. Pay for my friends of Justin Field. Anyway, so as we were saying before, that's really tough how all these

players get injured anyway. In the words of Tim Robinson, this is too good. We've got to figure out how to make money. This is too good. Anyway, Tua is back this week. Jalen Wright. Yeah, Jalen Wright, yeah, Jailen Wright, yeah, Jailen Wright, yeah, no, really, though, Jailen Wright, you know, if Tua comes back and if Tua stays back, and if the Dolphins offense isn't trash, like it was kind of right before Tua. Yeah. And Rih Moster or Devani Chin gets her. I think Jain right, really good stash, right?

Yeah, I agree. So, sure. We're going to do running back, D.K. Running back's brutal. Running back sucks. entering week eight. Who is your number one running back on waivers this week, DK? This one's really tough.

There's not like a clear-cut one, I don't think. I would put Alex Madison, Alexander Madison for the Raiders. He's 42% on ESPN, still out there. Can we all agree Madison's definitely the guy? Like, we would all probably take Madison. If you need a spot start this week, he's the guy, right? And then we like eliminate him from attention. Because he's like the starting running back.

Yeah. Right. 23 carries. You're not going to find that on the way or very often. So I guess I'll move to Jalen Warren for the Steelers. 12 touches, sorry, 12 carries, 44 yards. He also had two catches for 15 yards. Look pretty sprightly. He looks like he's finally getting healthy.

He was super banged up all year. Yeah. Jalen Warren is good and I think there always was a plan for him to be like heavily featured in this offense. I think he will continue to be. I think Russ playing helps Jalen Warren a lot too, especially in the receiving game. Yeah. It's bleak this week. A lot of the other guys we're going to mention are like backups who are like handcuffs.

If people get hurt like Kamani Vidal on the Chargers, Jalen Wright, Sean Tucker, people like that. So Warren's a guy who, I mean, this was his first real healthy game and he got 14 touches. Yeah. He's playing the Giants next week. I think he's good next week of the rest of the season as long as he stays healthy. I think it's easy. Easily him.

He got 50-50 in snaps. He got 33% that carries, but he had three targets in the passing game. I think this was like a leading script the entire game. I mean, Jalen Warren might be better than Najee Harris. Naji's had a good couple of weeks. Because they were up 20 points three touchdowns, but like if the Steelers,

I didn't get into the Steelers are behind, Jalen Warren is one of those guys that every now, like he might catch free passes on one drive from Russ. And so again, but we all agree. If Madison's available, Alex Madison, it's just the Raiders starting running back now. And then we'll take Jalen Warren. And also we have to give a massive caveat now.

that it's 1.30 Pacific. Monday Night Football's not happened yet. There are two Monday Night Football games, and frankly, they're running back on every team that's relevant. Seriously, those four teams are like the four waiver wire teams, I feel like. Box, Ravens, Chargers, Cardinals

are just chock full of. Chalk fulla. Chalk full of. Chalk full of. Waver wire people. So our caveat is, we'll get to those guys in a moment, but the caveat is,

depending how Monday Night Football goes, we might change our answer our frickin' jailin Warren. That's like, please like make sure, obviously we'll get to who those guys are in on. If J.K. Dobbins gets hurt, knock on wood. Yeah.

Mani Vidal. I think Jalen Warren has staying power for the rest of the year though. So I assume he can still. He's the guy you could like maybe

throw in your flex next week without an injury. Okay. So it's Jalen Warren's showdown time. Hell yeah. What a big week for my Pittsburgh Steelers. Did we get a gong?

Oh, somebody offered us a gong. Dude, someone did all. We should take that offer. Do you know, I think I was like, oh, big gong and it was actually

just the small little gong that I had. My gong wasn't that impressive. Oh, I feel like that's going to get cut to that weird guy. My gong wasn't that impressive. Fuck. There's like, just got the size of the gong.

But this is like a normal size. We have like a small gong. We have our lovely video team here with Corey and Carlos and Kai and Austin. And we, there is also a random stranger in the internet who cuts only the sexual parts out of our show and makes videos of that. And he's going to take. That's actually Kai. It's just as a guy. No, it's K's burner.

Yeah. It is the Jalen Warren. Hands up, D.K. Showdown time. What was that? He was like imitating like the, the pause after the gong noise. Oh, nice. Yeah.

Okay. Because we can't actually hear it in our ears right now. All right, this is from Joe. Joey. Joseph. Bambi had an original budget of $858,000. And what is this? $1943?

Yes, 42. That seems like a lot. We're not adjusting for inflation here. $8,000. I also don't know what anything. That sounds like so much. In 1943, that sounds like a lot to me. It's like enough to buy a boat.

Can we do a... I mean, like a ship. I mean, you can make one for that. That's a lot of money. A warship. I don't know. Whatever, man. Shut up.

How much much money? money at the box office did Bandy make Bambi make worldwide. Okay. On a budget of $8,000. Hint was it was re-released to North American theaters six times. And that screws me up because I know like the fact that gone with the wind is like, you know, it made like six.

The most profitable movie ever. Yeah, $12 million, but in 19, whatever, that was like $5 billion or whatever. So the re... I think gone with the wind has made hundreds of millions of dollars. That's less than $3 billion. Oh, I thought you said $12 million. I think it, I'm saying not accounting for inflation. I think it made hundreds of millions of

Oh, wow, okay, cool. Well, I don't know how inflation works. So there you go. So this Bambi was released in North American Theater six times over like however, I guess, 80 years. So that really screws it up. So it's not adjusted for inflation. Yeah, gone with the wind made $390 million.

Not adjusted for inflation. Oh, okay. On a $3 million budget. Oh. Sorry, I just wanted to point out of it. It's pretty good. It did it. Most profitable movie ever $300 million or $3 million?

$3 million. $390 million in 19,000. They had nothing else to do back then, though. Literally, that's correct. It was like the biggest deal. I'd go to a baseball game. Yeah. So, okay.

So how much did Bambi make? How much did Bambi make? That's very helpful. I'm glad you said that. I had no idea what to say. But that movie is specific. I mean, it is literally the most profitable movie ratio ever. Budget to revenue.

This made, Bambi cost 900 grand. I bet. How much did it make in non-adjusted dollars? Non-adjusted dollars. I don't know either. Hmm. Okay. All right.

Do you want to count us down? Three, two, one. 80 million? I actually could, I was also going to say 50 million and I stammered. And now I'm going to say 51 million. Okay. Would you say 80 million? The answer is $267 million, which in retrospect that we should have done that.

Yeah, I just didn't know where to start. I don't know how much any, like how much is a lot of money back in 1950s. Craig, you get your. Jalen. You get to preserve your Hollywood reputation here and you get Jalen Warren. So not only did I get. this whole Bambi's debacle wrong. I also underestimated how much money it is. Yeah, exactly.

The highest number. Should have guessed a trillion. Yeah, you should have. So I'm going to dip into this Monday night football quadrumverit, whatever, just the four guys who we haven't seen played football yet. And again, with the obvious caveat that like, based on how the games go, we might change our answers. There's an injury. I'm going to go with Kamani Vidal, the running back for the Chargers. Week six, he basically was added. Jim Harbaugh said it was to spice up the passing game and then his first touch was a 30-yard passing touchdown on a wheel route and basically it's really rare to get a day three running back who's getting put into like have passing responsibilities block for a quarter billion dollar quarterback run routes catch and also

run and I really think kamani videl is like the kirkland brand blake quorum that the chargers didn't get to draft and so they got videl because quorum was gone and again he's basically replaced gus edwards and if anything happens to jkki daubbins kamani videll is like a crazy good value but even when jkki daubbins is healthy i think videl is going to be like totally thrown in the flex for by week so i like kamani videl a lot Okay, so Craig got Warren, you're taking Vidal, Vidal. What do you guys, have you guys heard anything on when Jonathan Taylor is supposed to come back? Every week I think he's coming back and then he's not.

I know, I feel like. But he had a high-ish ankle sprain. I think it might be another week or two. It's so crazy how adrenaline works because I remember when he, because I have him on my fantasy team, so I've been following him closely. When he did sprain his ankle in the game, I remember he went out to the sideline. They taped him up and he was like jogging on the sideline. This is how it always goes, yeah. He's thinking about coming back in.

I was like, oh, he like tweaked it. It's fine. Then he, you know, the game ends and they're like, oh, might not miss any time. It's now been three games. And then you sleep on it and it's like my ankle is, my foot's falling on. There was a report a few days ago that it's not recovering as, he doesn't have the mobility he thought he had. So he's going to probably be out for a while. So I'm going to go with Tyler Goodson then for the Colts.

He had 14 carries, 51 yards, a touchdown. Roughly 50-50 snaps with Sermon last week. He out carried Sermon 14 to 8. He just looks better than Sermon, in my opinion. Like, he's way more explosive, way more elusive. Yeah, way more juice. And I don't know. They play the Texans next week.

There's no buy weeks next week, by the way. It's kind of weird. So that's like a tough matchup, but I think he can factor in the passing game. I'm just going to go with Goodson for now. I think another guy to add at this point is Ray Davis. He's more of like a high upside handcuff option right now because James Cook is back and playing. Davis got hurt this last week. Yeah, so James Cook hurt his foot and Ray Davis was amazing.

like add Ray Davis and the Ray Davis had heard his calf and James Cook played and he was great and then Ray Davis got a touchdown on garbage time. My question for you DK, so again, Monday and football hasn't happened yet. Sean Tucker, who was just the number one running back in fantasy last week, how much does forget, obviously if Sean Tucker's good tonight. I feel like Sean Tucker has to be at the top of this list. Yeah. If Sean Tucker even just plays a lot, I feel like he still has to be high on this list. Like if Sean Tucker's earned a role over Rashad White in any way, I feel like it's also hard

to like not put Sean Tucker considering how good the Buccaneers offenses. Did you see what they say? said, the coach said about, like, how they're going to approach this running back situation. Three-man backfield with the hot hand, but I feel like, spoiler alert, Rashad White. Not the hot hand. You know, the bucks have been dead last rushing yards total and per attempt with Rashad White the last two years. Like, it's not going to be the hot hand to Rashad White.

Yeah. Hopefully. That's a nice way of saying coaches don't like to let guys lose jobs for injury. And I think that's a nice way of Todd Bull saying, we're going to play all three. But I think that they know that unless Rashad White magically becomes like a way better running back in the next few weeks, Rashad White will be like their third down. Jalen Warren as like past game specialist without the Jalen warning rushing components because they need Tucker and Bucky Irving on the field and I also wonder because Bucky Irving's I feel like Bucky Irving is like way more skewed to be running right and I feel like you don't want to have a tell with

who's on the field leading to what I don't know part of me wonders as Sean Tucker is going to be the lead guy here I don't know we'll see what happens well Irving was really good at catching passes in college I know that in this season he's more been a early down runner type guy because they have Rashad White. It's such a good pass catcher, but I think he can do it all. That's what makes this so complicated. It's like,

and also, by the way, like, Sean Tucker has been on the Buccaneers for a year plus. I don't understand, like, like, it's always funny to me, like, maybe it just took this one game of him doing awesome to be like, oh, we have a really good player here.

Like, did they not know this before? And if he sucks tonight, it's like, maybe the Saints just couldn't tackle him. Yeah. Mutiny, you know what I mean? Like, there's also total change that all the Bucs are bad.

That's the thing. And that's the other thing to watch for Monday night, like if you see this and like the bucks can't run again, it's like maybe the saint just sucked. The flip side to your point is I think there's day two and day three running backs. Like we always kind of like, oh, they didn't do anything as a rookie. I'm like they need to learn this system. Plus they probably have to earn it to get above it.

Yeah. And you're too like there's a certain confidence you have to play with to like go through block and you get out on a route to like, you know. For sure. I totally agree with that. Look at our boy tank Bigsby. Exactly. No, it's very similar to that. The worst imaginable rookie season. But that's because you can't even run the route unless you're like necessarily doing,

you know, you have to be able to scan through the blitz protection. confidently, immediately. And that's never been more complicated. The whole meta with the NFL right now is their attack, like protections are that, we always talk about, oh, move before the snap. Oh, football move. Like, don't show them what you're doing.

Blocking's the hardest part to disguise what you're actually doing. And so that's what the defenses are doing all this. You know, they were lining up the, you know, six guys in the line. You don't who's dropping who's not, Andrew Van Ginkle's dropping back or he's coming in. It's never been harder for Ricky running back to look and know, oh, yeah, I can definitely go out on a route right now. Like, it's complicated.

So that's the whole point is to confuse a running back to stay in and not need to. That's like half the freaking idea. All right. Receivers, number one receiver ad for this week. We all have Joanne Jennings to the 49ers. If anyone, and again, maybe he's added in your league. But if anyone's cut Joanne Jennings...

Yeah, I mean, he's actually available. He's only rostered in like 30% of Yahoo League. So he is kind of out there because he's been banged up. Everybody came back. And, you know, he had... He still, I think, has had the best fantasy week of any receiver this year. That week three, he had 41 points or whatever was. And receivers brutal.

Amonra St. Brown... I saw this from Jeff Bell. Amonra St. Brown. and again, watch Chris Godwin or something blow this out tonight, but as of right now, Monter St. Brown is 21.5 points and half PPR, and he's the number one receiver. And that is, I couldn't believe this.

Jeff Bell said that that is the lowest total for the most, for leading the receiver position in a week in 10 years. That's what I'm talking about. I was talking about this last night. The quarterbacks were awful this past week. Yeah. And also,

14-200-200 yards. Joanne has the luxury, although not for the Niners, but like, it looks like Ayyuk is going to be out the whole year. Joanne is going to be a part of this offense. He tore his ACO. For the rest of the year. So RIP to Brandon Ayuk. And so, yeah, I think Joanne Jennings is definitely the number of guys.

We just did Joanne Jennings' Town. All right. It is the third in Juwan. Showdown time. I love John Jennings. Yeah, everyone loves it. This is from Abby. Abby.

Abby. So last week we were talking about old players and, like, long-star shirt, we got a new conversation about the Brooklyn Dodgers played the Chicago Bears in 1934 and the quarterback for the Brooklyn Dodgers was shipwreck. Kelly. And we all assumed that shipwreck Kelly had been like, you know, on a shipwreck. And it turns out

he actually had just sat on a pole for a long time and they'd call it pole sitting. I thought he was named after a guy who had done that. No, no, he would do it. It was like, it was a test of endurance. There was a different guy named shipwreck because I guess like a master on the top of the shipwreck during the shipwreck. So anyway, he was named after the same. So he would just sit up there for a long time, like it was a

survivor challenge? He would just do that. You know, like some David Blaine shit. I don't know. Anyway, Abby writes They didn't have much to do back then. No, there's nothing going on. He just a guy. He did Either see a move, God with the wind or sit on top of the pole. I saw five times this week.

No wonder it made $390 million. Shipwreck, so Abby writes, Shipwreck Kelly got his nickname from a famous poll sitter. The current pole sitting record

is held by H. David Werder who sat on a pole in 1984 to protest the price of gasoline. 1984? That's kind of funny to me. How many hours did he spend sitting on the pole? Can we also start for a second

about the idea of I'm going to sit on this pole until OPEC lowers their prices? I don't think that worked. How much coverage did he get? I was two. I don't know. You say you, but you were there.

Ronald Reagan's like in the situation room, like, we got to get this guy off this pole. This guy sitting on the pole. Got to get him down off that pole. He's just peeing off the pole? How many hours? Is he shitting? Is he shitting off the pole? How long can you go without pooping?

Like a couple days? Well, David, no. David Blaine was in that box over the bridge for like a month. David Blaine was training his body every day for situations like that. I don't think HD was. No, I bet he was exactly a blame. The whole, that, the magic. Yeah, that whole world has been developed in the last.

I think he was pissing and shitting off the pole, I would imagine. I'm going to say, how long he was up there. Did you have like a helper? Can I do math? Can I calculate? No. I have to do the math off the top of my head. Yeah, you do.

What's this guy's name? How many hours is the question? Yeah, how many hours was the poll sit? What's this guy's name? H. David Werder. H. David Werder. I like when people's first, like it's the initial first. That's cool.

They don't do that as much anymore. See Lewis Horalbeck. I'm going to start doing that. Lewis. I like that. All right. I have my number. Wait.

Oh, God. How long was he up there? How long were you up there, age? What were you doing? H. What was he doing up there in 1984? Thinking about stuff? Just alone with his thoughts?

Can't have been more than like 13 hours. Nothing to do. What? I'm just kidding. No phone. All right. Wait. Oh, God.

I don't know where I'm at. I'm lost at C right now. I know exactly what I'm doing. Okay. Three, two, one. 30. I said 480 because I wanted 3 weeks. 480 hours?

Yeah, three weeks. Oh, damn. I guess in my time. I said 35 hours. Two days? I don't think that's going to move the world. You think that's going to move markets? I guess I'm just like, I didn't really factor in that he was like eating and living

up there. I thought it was just kind of a one-time spell. You think a guy got on a poll for one day and was like, lower the price of oil. Well, did it work? I, she, Abby didn't mention. I assume it did not. I feel like we would have heard of 8. David Wurder if he just sat it.

It's like the bottles with the... Wait, no, wouldn't we have heard of them if he was up there for 480 hours more than if it was 30? No, one, and two... It's like, throw in the water bottles or the refs, it's like, oh, you know, whoever's controlling oil prices can't be like, this guy sat on the pole.

You know, we gotta lower them. All right, all right. I said 150. 150, whatever. I said, the answer is... This is a hell merry for me. 10, 549 hours. 439 days.

More than a year? A year? No way. That's not true. How do you sleep on that? H. David. There's no way that's true. And you guys thought he wasn't pissing and shitting. Oh, 439 days.

He thought so. No, I had three weeks. 439 days. Okay. How do you sleep when you're doing that? How big was this poll? Yeah, maybe it's like a bench. I need to get a picture. Email? Yeah, we got a, we got a figure. I was imagining.

I was imagining. H. David. P. H. David Woder. H. David Wurter. How did he not die? Should I ask Google Gemini, how he didn't die? Wait, no, that's not it. All's chat. Chat, GPD. how he lives. Here he is.

This piece of shit. Wait, hold on. Did it work? I really don't think it works. Well, it didn't work for a year. Can I ask you a stupid question? Why would this work? Because you get a whole bunch of press and you get like people talking about it. Get people starting to get mad.

But like when you tie yourself to a tree to protect the tree, it's like you're there. This is like how does advertising work? He should have tied himself to a gas station. We're talking about it. They should lower the price of gas. All right. So how did he... You tell me that's him, and he did that for over a year?

Abby, I'm not telling you anything. Abby's telling us. You want to discourage Abby's reputation. I couldn't do that for 30 hours. Did he come down at night? I could do that for 30 seconds. If he came down at night, this whole... We throw out this entire question.

No, it's... The hell are we talking about here? Yeah, I don't know. Email us at Rangor Fantasy Football at Com if you know this is possible. We have to move on. Other receivers, so I win, right? I get John Jennings. D.I. You get...

Who do you want? It's not an easy choice, actually, because there's quite a few... There's like a really flat tier here of guys. I'll go with Romeo Dobbs. Damn it. I think the Packers versus the Jazz. I like kind of hate the idea of choosing any Packer.

Like I don't want to start any Packer at any time, even though they have like an amazing offense. They just spread the ball around too much. Yeah, but the range of guys you'd want to start is Jaden Reed, then Dobbs. Yeah, I agree. So Dobbs this past week, 10 targets, eight, eight catches, 94 yards. Obviously, coming off of his little temper tantrum, like the squeaky wheel thing. has been working for him, the last couple of games.

I'm going to go with Jalen Tolbert on the Cowboys. Yeah, he's the number two, and that's not as sexy anymore with Dallas, but yeah, he's the number two receiver to Dallas. I also think Don Tavian Wicks. Yeah. If you can't go Romeo Dobbs to the Packers, just because the Jaguars are so bad on defense. The Jaguars are very close to quitting on Doug Peterson. I guess they already did that.

I don't care. Everyone there is miserable. I think they're fine. All right, fine. Whatever. The defense sucks. One, two of the last three? They're cooking right now.

Yeah, there you go. But anyway, the defense. still sucks. And I also will say, we have to shout out Ricky Parasol for the 49ers. That's really what we're saying here, 49ers for Packers,

but Ricky Pearson, got shot in San Francisco during an alleged robbery attempt. Someone wanted to Rolex downtown San Francisco, ended up getting shot, and somehow like it missed all his like important internal organs

and everything. Came back this week, three catches for 21 yards. And again, Brandon, Ayuk is the torn ACL. Obviously, Juan Jennings is like a better bet

than Ricky Parasol. But, dude, first of all, of all the players to have on your bench, no offense to Jalen Wright or Trey Benson for the Cardinals

but I look at Ricky Parasol I'm like you know what he's good locker room my fantasy locker room chemistry What are you talking about? Do we have a rule? No guys who get shot. Oh yeah. This is

Brian Robinson got shot He's like to be the best player in the NFL since then. We were talking but he can't that was last year. Yeah this is a year after now the shooting.

So we're talking about this Nick Pierce has always shot two months ago. Yeah that's true. We were talking about this on Sunday isn't this like a who shot in the chest and it went through his body.

That's going to be our Memento tattoo is nobody who got shot over that year. Yeah. Broke your legs and shot in the last 12 months. This is like a... And the tattoo is it just a tattoo of a bullet hole. So we know. Yeah, he's good. He got a tattoo of that.

No, no, I'm saying our Memento tattoo. That would be cool. That would be a tattoo as a bullet hole. Yeah. Over the scar. We should get a tattoo of a bullet hole. That's what I was saying. For memento tattoos.

That's, oh, now I get why he got confused. That's good, though. Yeah. Sorry, I keep trying to bring this up. Yesterday it was like, this is such a dark, impression of the state of this country, but there was three separate NFL players playing yesterday who had like survived gunshot wounds

in the last like year and a half. Is there anything more... Ryan Robinson, Tankdale, and Ricky Pearson, all playing. Is there anything more American than like Ricky Parasol getting a standing ovation because he's returned to play football after getting shot? Like there's been three people that can play like the many men song

when they come back onto the field. Like in a year and a half? Weird sport, weird country. All right. Tight end streamers. We don't have to. spend much time in this. I have Hunter Henry is my number one tight end. Me too. To stream. Yeah. D.K.'s

you're number one. Hunter. Yeah. I mean, it's simple. It's like the Patriots are all right. Jalen Polk is, hates Jared May or the coach. Like, Hunter Henry's good. Drake Bay. Jamilk is having a tough go. Yeah. Tough go of it. All right, Hunter Henry showdown time. It is the Hunter Henry showdown time. Also, did Witton Shipwreck Kelly was a stunt actor?

What? I'm looking at the Wikipedia page for poll sitting and it says led by the stunt actor and former sailor Alvin Shipwreck Kelly. I think we did talk about that because he was an actor. There's not enough people back then. He had, he was like a, wasn't he in the war? So Shipwreck Kelly, just in case people have no idea we're talking about, Shipwreck Kelly was the quarterback for the Brooklyn Dodgers,

who then became player coach, who then bought the team, who then married a rich socialite and then was recruited. Cafe Society, right? Cafe Society, bopped around like Great Gatsby style, and then became a spider in World War II and went to South America, the root out Nazis who had settled in South America. and then came back and became an investment banker. And that, and I, you know,

just the run of the mill life story. It's like the beau birdom, like my grandfather, when my grandfather's 27, he went to Vietnam. And when I turned 27, I built a birdhouse with my mom. Like, there was also, I mean, this week for someone was like, when my parents were 28, they're like, do you don't have a kid? And when I'm 28, I'm like, dude,

did you see the Rizzler? Was that the Mets game? God. All right. Showdown time? Yeah. This is from Jake. Jacob.

How many total episodes are there of square pants? This is heavily slanted towards you guys, but that actually probably means they'll do well. Also, yeah, DKK called SpongeBob Square. Like just SquarePants last week, and that was... It is his last name, technically. His surname. His surname?

His surname. Yeah. Squarepants? Uh-huh. Like Mr. Squarepants? Yes. Okay. That is his last name.

It's not like a Nick, two-part nickname, and then he has a different last name. No, I've seen his license. Squarepants. His name is SpongeBob SquarePank. He has, yeah, he doesn't license. license. Same.

I've seen his wallet. Yeah, it's true. Okay. All right, I have my answer. How many episodes there are of SpongeBob? Oh. Something just popped in my head. Okay.

Okay. Three, two, one. $1,000. I said $500. $300. Probably guess low. Fuck. What'd you say?

$1,000. And you said, I said 500. It is 303. Oh, my God. That's the closest Wait a minute. Do you know about anything the better I am at this, apparently?

I feel like that's just the case in life. Oh, wait. Question. What is it the... Dunning crew? Yeah, Dunning crew. Yeah. Dunning crew. You know, there was a 30-minute time slot, right,

for a television show. Oh, it's 15 minutes. Usually, you got 22 minutes of airtime, eight minutes of ads. No, I think it... SpongeBob had two 11-minute episodes within a 22-minute slot. Did that count as one episode or two?

I bet that's two. Because they have different titles. That's why I went big, because I thought that count of two. No, No, but I think it does count us two. Oh, you think it is. Because they have different names.

You got IMDB, they're different episodes. Right. So 380 means there's only been... No, 303. He was almost right to the exact. So there's only been 150, like, you know, time slots for SpongeBob? For new SpongeBob episodes? That feels low to me.

All right, we'll take it up the jig. By the way, Austin did send a picture of his... Mr. SquarePants' driver's license. He's... Can you guys explain to me what... Why is it called Bikini Bottom where he lives? That's the name of the town. No, I know.

Is that like an inside joke for something? No, it's just bikini bottom has a place called the crusty crab. So there's a lot of like sexual stuff here going on. I mean, if, no. Okay. Chumb bucket. Reading into it. No, it was originally pitched as an adult show.

Okay. And like an adult swim or whatever. He was born on July 14th, 1986. SpongeBob? He's way older than you guys. Yeah. Dude, he probably loved Bambi. Is that actually the first time they did the show or?

No, no, came out the 90s. In the show? They don't mention his age in the show. He's kind of ageless. He's a sponge. So should I just read? Fucking right. That's going to be my next question.

Hold on. Is he a bunch? What do you mean? Are you fucking kidding? His name is SpongeBob. No, I know he's a sponge. Okay. But like, what's the plot of this show?

He's a sea sponge living life down down to the sea. We should watch him. And he's a fry cook at the crusty crab owned by Mr. Crabb. Yeah, he flips burgers. And he lives in a pineapple and he has a cat but the cat's actually a snail. A snail's named Gary. And his neighbor is Squidward

who's a curmudgeon. Yeah, Squidward's like a Cromo. Who lives in the Eastern Island Head. And his friend. And Patrick Starfish is his friend who's like the Starfish. He's literally lives under a rock. He lives under a rock.

Yeah, he's kind of the lovable idiot of the show. So what would you say is like the plot? Besides that. Okay. You just explained to me the characters. What's the plot of friends? No, no, no. No, it's the jump.

It's the super bad thing. Plot versus story. You don't have to get mad at me. No, it's plot for story. I'm mad. I'm mad. You're making me mad. No, it's the plot of Superbad is, it's two friends trying to get laid on their last than high school.

Sell me on watching the show. No, but the story of Superbad is like two friends who are sad, they're going to miss each other. The plot of SpongeBob is what we just described. The story is... What would you say it is? A guy who finds joy in small things to, like, make it through adult life. You could argue and say... I'm in a world of cynical people.

Yeah. Oh, I like this already, yeah. It's like finding happiness in the everyday mundane. Yeah. He actually loves his job. He loves being a fried cook. He likes making people happy serving them burgers. His boss is very greedy.

His neighbor is like a total like yum yucker. Like you know what I mean? Like him and his friend. And him and Patrick just like hang out all day and they go jellyfishing and they listen to music and they get into shenanigans. It's about. It's about adulthood, honestly. It's actually. Yeah.

I used to, my friends and I used to debate all the time how old SpongeBob was. Well, now we know. We can also read you an email from Michael. Sure. So this is again, D. DK had talked about Bambi versus Spongebob. And I'm also just a shout out the ubiquitous SpongeBob.

Michael writes, boys, boys, boys, boys. Boy, boys, boys. SpongeBob is way more famous than Bambi or Bugs Bunny ever were and there may never be ever be a cartoon like SpongeBob SquarePence Ever Again. Mickey Mouse as a character may be close in terms of fame, but Mickey's not really famous for his screen time. Yeah. He's become known more as a brand mascot for like Disney.

I agree. Whereas the SpongeBob franchise alone is worth $13 billion. And that is basically, So he points out... That means nothing to me. Spongebob is estimated to have made... That's like three gone with the wind. Spongebob is estimated to have made 5%

of Viacom's lifetime revenue. And Viacom, to put that in perspective, Viacom was founded in 1952, currently operates 170 networks reaching 700 million people in 160 countries. And now SpongeBob is so big. Wendy's literally just repackaged Dave's double as a crabby-patti.

Is SpongeBob big in other countries besides the U.S.? Is it like worldwide phenomenon? on? Yeah, I don't know how popular, but yeah, I don't think he's a domestic property. Email from like wherever. If you don't live in the United States and you're not American, did you watch this growing up? Yeah, email so you're in, actually, I love that. Email surrogacy football.com. And did you watch me? And about, yeah, I've already conceded this point.

Also, Michael wants to know, Lee Ferrickson Day was 10 days ago, so happy Leaf Erickson Day. Hinga, dinga, dinga, Denga Denga Dirkin. Happy Lee Fergson. Went out to buy more giant paper. Remember that? a note on his rock. P.K wants to quit. Went out to go.

Oh, I'm fine. Went to go by. I'd love to be on an inside joke sometime. That'd be great. Well, name of band, that isn't 311 and I'll join the conversation.

Okay, so next tight ends, I will take Zachertz for Washington because he caught a touchdown and Washington, the only teams with more points per drive in the 21st century than Washington are the

2007 Patriots and the 2000 Rams, and I just want that team and I will take Zacherts. And Craig, good luck with whatever. Slop is left. How dare you? I'm taking Noah Fant.

D.K. McCaff went down with the knee injury. Noah Fant back-to-back games with 60 yards. The Seahawks have run 307 passes, 25 more than any other team. Throwing the ball a lot. D.K. Metcalfs out. Also, I just think Noah Fant's kind of good. Yeah, I do, do.

He's got some explosiveness. D. K. McCaff has a grade 1 MCL sprain, I think I heard. And so he's probably going to be out. He might miss this next week. And that's especially good for Noah Fant this coming week. Quarterback streaming. There's no buys this week, so you're probably fine.

But I will just say, I would like to point out. Would you start Drake May over Patrick Mahomes? Drake May has one fewer touchdown pass than Mahomes. He's played two games. Mahomes has the most interceptions in the NFL this year. Mahomes and the most since the beginning of last year too. So yeah, I think Drake May.

And then also, if you want, there's no buys like James Winston for the Browns. We don't know what's going on there with him and during Thompson-Robinson. Honestly, stay away from the Browns. That's risky. Don't stay away from the Browns. The Browns are cursed. I don't. Like you can, but like, don't.

Defense, I will just, for defense this week. Denver, if they're available for whatever reason, take Denver. If not, the Chief's defense. is playing the Raiders this week. Aiden O'Connell's out multiple weeks, so it's Gardner Minshew, and just, I think that's a really good situation for the Chiefs. The Chargers defense is playing the Spencer Rattler Saints.

So the Chargers and the Chiefs, and the Denver. So just the AFC West. Grab an AFC West team that is not the Raiders. Okay. Guys, this is the moment we've all been waiting for. We're going to have Kai. Kai Grady, our producer, come on, and we're going to...

It's Coke Zero Oreo time, boys. All right, we are now joined by our beloved Kai Grady. He does not want to be here. No, he's not. I'm excited. So, Kai, so I understand the results from this week's waiver situation is not yet settled, but we do have the past few weeks of penance to settle where the deal we make basically is you have to eat weird stuff, not normal stuff, actually.

Like a Coke Oreo. I guess pretty normal. Well, that was actually for amusement. But when we're wrong, you get to pick. And I think the one that made the most sense, we have the Coke Zero Oreos that we made try. And I think it is nothing more than fair. I think now you get to watch us eat the Coke Zero Oreos.

I would love nothing more. Truly. It seems only fair. Well, should we find out who won last week's waivers and then that person doesn't have to eat the Oreo? It's not over yet. There's two games left. That's true. Hife, it still has two guys. You still in the running. There you go. I'll give you a quick rundown. How about that?

Yeah. I'll open this. So Craig is in the lead with 38 points. Yeah. D.K. came in with 13.2. So I've already lost again. It's another, you know, food I have to try. And then hyphets his 12 points with Michael Wilson and Sean Tucker left. Oh, God, I don't even, I can smell them already. So, yeah, smell.

I'm having Vietnam War flashbacks right now. These are just Coca-Cola with popping can now. God, it's heinous. Even, even to be honest, oh, mine just has to cook bottles. Craig, you described, we smelled these yesterday. You said it smell, what did you say? Like a county fair trash can? You said it's like chemical.

It's synthetic. Yeah, synthetic. This is the fakesest. manufactured in a laboratory by mad scientists. I still don't understand who this is for. Like, why was this a page should mean? This is just an ad for Coke Zero.

Weird little freaks. I just don't understand. Maybe that, oh, that's how advertising works. This is like an ad that you pay money for. Right. Oh, fuck, that's such a good idea. Mine's double stuffed. Like, mine has two creams.

Oh, yeah. All right. We bought an ad. Two creams. Am I trying another one? Is this, or am I just walking? I mean, does anybody want the show to the cross-est? Come on in the water's fine.

Do you want to? Of course not. But it's content. There you go. So when you pop it open, take a gander at the cross section, there are kind of speckles of color in the white cream. Yeah, that's some red and some yellow. It kind of looks like someone was preparing this by hand and bled all over it. Why is there yellow in the?

That's the pop rocks. Are pop rocks yellow? Why don't think they were blue? I don't know. They're like little crystals. I mean, Coke's not red. Oh my God. Why is this red?

That's just the label is red. Coke can. Because the Cope is made of label? Because the labeling on Coke is red. Maybe they made it with a label, though. All right, whatever. I'll eat the fucking Oreo.

This is going to stink. It's awful. Eating just the bottom without the red wafer is fine. Can't take the red all. Craig told me to take it off. I just wanted to check the cross section. Dude, this is so bad. This is just as bad second time around.

I think it's pretty good. No. Stop. That's not good. I can't. It's terrible. You know what's funny is I think the cookie might just be an Oreo cookie. I don't know if they've done anything to this.

Well, it's red. Well, I mean... Yes, it's red. Flavorless red dye. No, it's different. Is it different? It's very different. Kai, thank you for joining us on that journey.

Yeah, thanks for having me. I eat half a good. And I feel like, is that how you take when you're like, I'm going to have a red grape? And like, that's how it tastes to you? Like all the newness and... Yeah, yeah, no, it's pretty similar. We're about to do a red grape. So this week we'll do what?

We'll do Kai's, at some point this week, we'll eat lunch and we'll just do Kai's Chipoli order of white rice and chicken. It's a great order. You can't go wrong. I mean, he's not wrong. Like, it is a safe order. Yeah. Your stomach is going to feel better. You will get your macros.

We had the, we all wrote, we watched all the games together on Sunday with a bunch of people. And Kai wrote how to write his order on a piece of paper on a list for everyone else's. And it was like this, what did you write, Peruvian steak sandwich with no cheese? It was like, it was a turkey club, no, no arugula, no onions, no cheat white cheddar. He even said nothing. He was like somehow, can you just also remove like whatever the Peruvian part is? Just steak, please. All right.

Kai. Thank you, buddy. Thanks for having me. It's a good time. You're going to miss being in person. It's fun. I know. I won't miss these Oreos.

Thank you, Craig. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Kai, for eating Oreos. Thank you, Carlos, for producing this episode. Well, someone just sits here and eats candy. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Corey. Thank you everyone for watching.

Thank you for listening. Email us, ringer fantasy football. Gmail.com. Fantasy courts. Follow us on Instagram, ringer fantasy football. TikTok, ringer fantasy football. We're feeling nicey on the talk. God.

Thank you, Lauren. Thank you, Garmage. What the fuck? I don't know what that is. It's a band. Garbage? No. Ladies and gentlemen,

the beautiful garb or the wonderful garbage. You ever seen that meme? I thought that was, I thought this in the S&L meme when she's like, and next, it's like whenever like Jimmy Garapel if there's a pass.

And it's like, and next. Hot Garbage. The beautiful Gar. What is the ex? The garbage? No, it's something like the gorgeous garbage.

I love that D. D.K.'s never just like, Queen. No, I've said all the basic ones. You get mad at me when I said the fucking Beatles. Well, okay.

You're only going, huge name. or absolute no names. Throw out like Van Halen or something, you know? Yeah. Come on. You guys. What type of music do they play?

Grunge, obviously. Yeah, it's like grungy. Oh, I was kidding. One of the most famous songs from the band Garbage was in Romeo and Juliet with Leo. Oh. And Claire Daines. Sure.

I would die for you. You remember that song? I've seen the movie, but not a long time. I've seen the movie, but not a long time. Do do do do do Oh, I'm getting it now. Wait, keep going, keep going. That's as far as I'm going to go.

And I probably already blew it. Let's be honest. All right, well, we'll check out garbage. Thank you. Yeah, thanks, D.K. You can't get mad at me when you're forcing me to do this shit, all right? The next, by the way, tomorrow we'll be doing Power Hour and we'll be coming to you live on top of a pole.

We'll all be pole sitting. Yeah. Somebody got really mad at me because I didn't mention flagpole sita, that song. Flagpole Sita by Harvey Danger? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, that's not real. It's real. Let me play it for you real quick.

Believe it. Harvey Danger is a sick name. You'll recognize it. Blast it and put it into the mic for the people at home. Dude, your phone has a button. Yeah, yeah. I have an SED.

It's kind of next level. Oh, yeah. I don't know. In the middle bit clearer. So you know. Yeah. I was born in 1998. That's crazy.

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