The Ringer NFL Show - Waiver Wire Pickups for Week 9

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

SHOWDOWN TIME! Must-add players at each position ahead of NFL Week 9 (1:31). Plus, emails (33:06)! RB: Braelon Allen (Jets), Tyler Allgeier (Falcons), and Justice Hill (Ravens) (1:31 ) WR: Cedric Tillman (Browns), Elijah Moore (Browns), and Keon Coleman (Bills) (11:46) TE: Taysom Hill (Saints), Zach Ertz (Commanders), and Hunter Henry (Patriots) (23:42) QB: Bo Nix (Broncos), Jameis Winston (Browns), Malik Willis (Packers), and Matthew Stafford (Rams) (30:38 ) D/ST: Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Commanders, and New Orleans Saints (31:54) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producers: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Here's how it's going to work. We're going to go position by position. We're going to pick our top player at that position for you to add. And if we pick the same player, we'll do a trivia tiebreaker, and then we can decide who gets that guy. And then the losers to pick someone else and on and on. It simulates waivers. It is not that complicated. I promise you'll figure it out.

Email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. If you have trivia questions you want to send us, remember they have to be like a number, a year, a date, an amount, whatever. We have to be able to get wrong. wrong in order. Best Paul Stiler, closest to the pin, if you will. Fantasy court, you know what? We have a very special fantasy court. We've already recorded coming to you this Wednesday. Check it out. We have a very, very, very special fantasy court with a guest judge. We actually could do that in the fantasy legal system. We have a guest judge coming to you. But for right now, we're going to get right to Wavers, D.K. Who is your number one running back fantasy ad entering

week night? I found that the running back situation on the waiver wires kind of bleak this week. But the fact that the Jets did not use Braylen Allen very much last week and then went back to him this week gives an opportunity to pick him back up. I don't necessarily love this situation, but he did have 12 carries, 32 yards in the touchdown. They were alternating in the like inside the five yard line, him and Breece Hall were. So I don't know, weird usage with the Jets and Braylin Allen, but he's probably out there on the waiver wire after he basically did nothing last week. So now would be the time to pick him up in case they kind of continue to do like a 1A, 1B type situation. with him in Brees Hall. This is genuinely annoying.

Braylen Allen is back on his bullshit, I guess, after two weeks where it seemed like Brees was the guy. I just am really frustrated. I'm going to be so frustrated with his Jets team the whole year. And Brees Hall is going to be like the RB8 by the end of the season, and I'm still going to fucking hate his year, because every week it feels like you have no idea what's going to happen. Sometimes Braylin Allen is like the Tyler Alger where he has the same amount of carries

and other games he disappears. But I agree, this is kind of handcuff week for running backs. there is not like a clear starter coming into week two that you can add. So dudes like Braylon Allen and Blake Corum, Trey Benson. But if we all agree Tyrone Tracy for the near Giants was available,

we'd all take him first, right? He feels like he's going to be the starter for the Giants. Yeah, yeah. He's not available in enough leagues. Yeah, I still think Braylon Allen might have more upside if Brise Hall were to get hurt than Tyrone. Maybe not.

They're probably close. Yeah, I'd probably go with Tyrone and Tracy. The only other thing is the night, I'm sure, coming off Monday night football, or Sunday night football, Jordan Mason got hurt. He hurt his shoulder. Isaac Arendo came in and played well. Problem is, is one, Shanahan said Mason probably would have come back if the game was close. And two, they're on by next week. And McAfrey might be back by week 10. So I don't think

Arendo is a great ad. See, I'm torn because on the other hand, I feel like if you're looking at waivers, I feel like Isaac Warrando, they're opening McCaffrey's practice window. And I feel like McCaffrey will return, but probably not to like November 10th or something. November 10th is their next game, though. Yeah, I heard that it was week 10 was that the week they're eyeing. And they're on buy next week. Oh, yeah, no, that's true about the buy. I don't know. I guess I just look at it as like Jordan Mason at this point, can't stay healthy.

And McCaffrey with the Achilles. It's annoying because Garendo feels like that guy who's going to end up being the league winner, the fourth, fifth string running back for the Niners. It's tough to let him just sit there when you know McCaffrey's coming back with the 10 to 90s and Mason. There's two guys blocking his path. But they're both like, I don't know, unable to stay the game. But that's the theme, though, of all these guys is they're all dudes who, if this, then that, except for Tyrone Tracy, who I think is just going to be.

the started running back from the Giants going forward. But he's rostered realistically. I agree that one, Garando looks kind of good. But they can plug any running back in, and they kind of look like they're shot out of a cannon on the Niners. I agree with you. Like, I would say Garando, of the guys we mentioned, Braylin Allen and Garando have the two league winning upside

if there were to be an injury. So, I mean, I guess you take Garando, right? You want the Niners running back over the Jets. But he's not even playing next week. That's the thing. It sucks. I think that we have to go Breil and Allen. The other thing I want to note,

shout out to Nate Jonkey, does great work of Pro Football Focus with usage data. Nate Junkie noted the Jets are the best schedule for running backs for the rest of the season for fantasy purposes. I think that kind of, as much as tying yourself to the Jets right now, feels insane. The Jets play the Texans this week, which isn't ideal. But after that, it's by far the number one fantasy running back schedule. I think that's probably the tiebreaker so you can go Braille and Allen. But the theme of this is all these guys are, if you have a winning team, you can stash them for if you make the playoffs.

I don't feel great about a lot of the guys we're going to talk about as you have to play them this week or you're cooked. I don't feel great about a lot of these guys. So realistically, if you have to plug and play because of buy week, you're probably going to try to throw like a receiver in your flex, to be totally honest, not a running back this week. But it's stashing. There's a lot of high-upset running backs. All right. That means it is time. For the

Braille and Allen, I genuinely hate this guy. Showdown time. He's ruining Breece Hall. He's also better than Breece Hall. Duality of Maine. Throwing out hot takes. This is from Weston from Hoboken. West.

Westin. I like that you threw in where he's from. Is that relevant? Well, he did. He just said, I'm Weston from Hoboken. I love that. Shouts to Hoboken. Yeah. That's cool. Weston, so we were arguing it last week about whether Kelsey or Mahomes is more famous. D.K. I already conceded, remember? Yeah. Just saying, well, don't have to open that wound again, but that's fine. Let's do it. Just the trivia. I didn't say anything. Okay. Weston says, simple trivia question to try to settle Mahomes versus Kelsey. Who has more Instagram followers, Patrick Mohamed or Travis Kelsey? Wait, by how much? What is? the trivia question. I think we both take a side and then we pick the number. But the starting is if you don't get the person right, it doesn't matter. I think we're all going to, Travis Kelsey has to have more,

I would imagine. Unless that's the point of this trivia question is that Mahomes has more. Dude, it's got to be Kelsey, right? I mean, it has to be Travis Kelsey. Now you guys are doubting yourself. Huh? No, no. I feel very, very confident it's Travis Kelsey. Yeah, it's Kelsey. Let's just do how many followers Kelsey has. Okay. How many? How many. How many followers does Kelsey have? Cristiano Ronaldo is the most followed person in the world, right? Is it Renal? I thought it was Taylor Swift.

Is it Ronaldo? I thought it was Ronaldo. I think Ronaldo has like half a billion. 640 million. Yeah. I think Selena Gomez is number two. Okay. I have a number for Kelsey.

Okay. Yeah, I don't feel good about this. I'm ready. Three, two, one. 80 million. 30. Oh, I said 80. Shit.

What did you say, Havits? I said 18 million. Pull out the old phone. I was like, one in every three people who follows Taylor Swift would go follow Travis Kelsey, right? Travis Kelsey has 7, 6.8 million. Mahomes has 6.7 million.

And Travis Kelsey has... 6.8. Oh, my God. Travis Kelsey has 6 million followers on Instagram. 6.8, and Mahomes has 6.7. Wow. You could almost say it's kind of close. Well, thank God you conceded.

Let me investigate. Wow. I'm not sure I buy this. There's something afoot. What do you mean? There's something for this is his Instagram. I just need to hold on here. How often does he post?

I'm pretty surprised that, yeah. I am, wow. I'm gobsmacked. It's pretty low. I just wanted to start a dialogue. Hey, Kai just sent us the top five people on Instagram right now. Ronaldo, Messi. I guess you probably could have guessed those two.

Selena Gomez, Kylie Jenner, and Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Yeah. Those all makes sense. It's because Travis is just posting fucking new heights breakouts. It's like my Instagram. Follows on Instagram, but Ring your Fantasy football

because it's just like DK's Instagram. We could beat Travis Kelsey. We could do that. He's not really curating this thing in any interesting way. Is Travis Kelsey on TikTok? Yeah, he's got 2.8 million on TikTok. Dude, I guess 80 million.

God damn it. Let's see if TikTok. Let's see if Mahomes is on TikTok. I think this is a question that I am the, like, philosophically, I was the most off on. Like, I genuinely thought he had so many more followers. I like that the ones that we think we'll get right are the ones we the most wrong on. There's something we should, there's something we should remember about that. Man, six million followers.

Okay. You said you're gobsmacked, Craig. That's correct, Daniel. A couple hundred thousand? That's like, that's like a margin for error in polling. Find, yeah, find those followers, Arizona. Craig's going to call up Instagram and try and find more followers.

Yeah. Okay. So you're taking Braille and Allen D.K.? I'm assuming you're taking Isaac Garendo or no. He's on by, so it's kind of weird. Right. Right.

For the purposes of our game, look, we do this game where Kai is trying to pick the team that or the team that scores most points after this. So I'm going to leave Garando out of this. I do think you should pick up Garando. If he's out there just in case McCaffrey isn't going to come back next week.

He has a setback, whatever. It's definitely worth doing. just stashing him on your bench. That being said, I guess I have to go with Tyler Algear. Again, this is, this is handcuff week, and Alger had 12 carries.

Didn't really do much with him with 33 yards last week. But I think at the very least, Alger is a flex with benefits, where if Bijan Robinson were to go down, Alger does bring league winning upside. And like, at the very least, you can plug them into your flex

and hope for like seven or eight points if you're very desperate with biweek. So they're playing Dallas next week, who's been terrible against the run. And whenever Atlanta wins games big, Alger gets a lot of touches. Yeah, so I'll go with Al Jir. Don't love the running backs this week.

No, it's brutal. I'll go with Justice Hill, I guess, on the Ravens. Justice Hill is good for like a big play every other game. So they work him in kind of on depending on the matchup. So I'm going to go to Justice Hill. Another good stash is Keaton Mitchell, by the way, who's coming back for the Ravens at some point. I don't know if that's a, this is definitely like for deeper bench.

I think that's a deep lead. That's a deep cut one. But he looked awesome before he got hurt last year. So just keep that in mind. Blake Corum still out there, Trey Benson. I think Blake Corum is the guy that I would identify as like, again, if you're, if these names, you're kind of like, come on guys. We're not playing, but those are handcuffs, yeah.

Yeah, but I think that if you're like, again, if you're five and one or six or whatever, God, I keep scam for him for this season, six and two, seven and one, whatever, if you're, like, going to make the playoffs, probably going to have a buy and you're thinking about obside. Again, Blake Corum is the guy that he's not playing a ton of time right now, but Kiron Williams has a lot of injury history. And Kyron Williams, does he have two thirds of the Rams touchdowns or something insane? Yeah. That's one that just Blake Corum would just take, like, I think, a ton of the role over Ronnie

Rivers. and that's someone who, again, would step into like week two, like two or three weeks in December and just be a top five running back is Blake Corum. That's the guy who largest share possible of a massive offense, another cup, and Pook are back. So again, he's not going to do anything for you right now. But if you're thinking, if you have the luxury of thinking past Thanksgiving right now, then yeah, Blake Corum is a good one.

Also, I want to show out Dalvin Cook while he's more famous than these guys. I think he's dust. He had six carries for 12 yards, which I think is appropriate. And he basically played because Rico Daudal got food poisoning. I personally would not add Dalvin Cook. I think the Cowboys often sucks. I think Dalvin Cook is dust. And even when the Cowboys running backs are healthy and good,

I don't think it's good. But yeah, I wouldn't add Dalvin Cook. You couldn't pay me. No, start Dalvin Cook. All right, next up, wide receivers, DK, give us your number one wide receiver entering week nine. I think on opposite of running backs, there's a lot of good receiver options this week.

I'm going to go with Cedric Tillman for the Browns right now, 12 targets last week. Followed that up with a really strong game this week. Nine targets, seven catches, 99 yards, two touchdowns, including the game-winning touchdown. or game the go-ahead touchdown at the very least. I don't know. I just kind of feel like James Winston is a kingmaker when it comes to fantasy.

And Stefanski came out and told the media today that James Winston was going to remain the starter. Tillman is a big, fast, deep threat and seems to have good rapport. Maybe there's like a little backup, you know, two backup players kind of like playing on the scout team together for most of the season. There's a rapport there with Tillman and Winston. And I also think, you know, a couple other browsers are good. but I'm going to go with Tillman for now just because he's been really, really strong since Winston took over.

I think I agree. I had Tillman too. They don't have a great schedule for fantasy purposes for receivers going forward. I don't care. James is James. So, Cedric Tillman, baby.

I love this. I love it. We're halfway through the year and I'm like really excited about Cedric Tillman. I would not have seen that coming. The one caveat is if Josh Downs for the Colts is available, we'd probably take Josh Downs over him just because one of Richardson finally produced

with Downsend. That's nice because Downs, downside and at four points with Richardson playing. Also, locating Shane Steichen might bench Anthony Richardson. I know. He was asked about that. He was asked about it and he basically didn't say,

no, Richardson's our starter. He said everything is being evaluated. That seems like a soft launch of the benching. Almost. So Josh Downs, if he's there, but for our purposes, because Josh Downs is probably rostered,

we're going to go with Cetric Tillman. Does Anthony Richardson have any children that he can bring to a press conference to help soft? He's got a little brother. you could just bring the little brother. You know, like David McSiriani. Maybe a puppy. Or you could do that there's a,

there's a congressman running in Virginia who did a campaign commercial and he hired a family. He borrowed his friend's family to do a campaign commercial. So they did it like it was his family. And then it came out that that was none of those people are his kids or his wife. It's like his friend's family. It's like his friend's wife and kids. So Richardson could do that.

Joe Flacco has kids. And he could take Joe Flacco, just like bring Joe Flacco's kids with him everywhere it goes. Richardson is old enough to be one of Flacko's kids. He can bring Flacko as his dad. Richardson's mom fire me in front of my dad. Joe Flacco. All right.

So what? Yeah, so we're doing... Cedric Tillman. Sedric Tillman looks good, man. I got to say, he looks like he's got juice. The new Nico Collins. All right, it is the Cedric Tillman on the rejuvenated Browns showdown time. Did we get that gong yet?

Someone offered us a gong. I feel like we didn't respond. We need to respond to that guy. Take their gong. I want the gong. They're offering the gong. Don't do the g. Take the gong.

It's like the Seinfeld. Take the pen. I don't want the pet. Take the pen. He wants to give you the gong. Take the gong. Don't gong. Don't gong block.

Oh. All right. This email, this trivia question is from Brian. Brian. Brian. Say that was weird. Okay.

Wade Jones. Of course. Wade. Brian. And of course. First. Okay. What do we got?

So we argued a lot about Spongeball last weekend. It started with DK not knowing anything about SpongeBob or Bikini Bottom. And so Brian writes, DK the designated grandpa and noted U.S. military enthusiast of the show, did not seem to realize that bikini bottom is actually an appropriate term that comes from the bikini atoll, atoll, the site of the U.S. nuclear bomb testing until 1958. And that is the premise of SpongeBob, as these are all like nuclear warped creatures. For the record, I have not seen the show.

So I apologize for not making that. connection. Well, I don't even know if you would have by seeing the show. There's no, like, reference to it. Talking. But you knew it was a talking sponge under the seat. Yeah. So I feel like that's all you needed to know.

That is last name? They probably should have put two and two together. Okay, so what's the question here? How many nuclear tests were conducted at Bikini Atoll? Hmm. God, dude, this is just... You know how they say, like, set your, set your co-host up for success? set your teammates up for success.

It is wild we used to do this. We used to just be like, where do we test these atomic bombs? Like, I don't know. It's the ocean. It's kind of nuts that we just did this. I've seen some videos of it. It's pretty wild. They do like underwater tests and all this crazy shit.

There was a movie about a subcommittee hearing last year and they had some footage of it. Oh, really? Love the subcommittee hearing movie last year that also had the footage of the nukes. If it just loves getting a little insult in. to Oppenheimer. Just whenever you can. I loved Oppenheimer. Yeah.

I'll leave out the subcommittee here next time. Beck's picture-winning film. How many years were they testing? Can we know that? No idea. I assume it was not 30. How many nuclear tests does they do at the 70s?

How many can you do? You know, how long? I feel like you can't do that many before you start to ruin the Earth's atmosphere. Like, are we in like one a year? Or like, how many are we testing here? Greg, we used to drive around with no seatbelts. There's lead and paint.

You can do whatever the fuck you are. Wait, have you seen that meme of the Spider-Man meme is the three Spider-Man's, and it's like my grandpa, my dad, and me, and it's like, grandpa, it's like with lead paint, my dad with asbestos and me with microplastics and everyone's pointing at each other. Me with microplice. Everyone's got one. Ready? Three, two, one.

20. 15. You said 15 or 50? 15. 15. You said 20. I said 50. The answer is.

Oh, wow, Craig. 23. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Again, when we don't know we're talking about, we do him pretty well. Okay, Craig. So you get, you get Cedric Tillman, Dek, you go next.

So first off, this is similar to the Isaac Orendo thing that we just talked about. If you are looking for a longer term pick up, Ricky Pearsall for the 49ers, is a guy to keep in mind with Devo Jennings and Ayuk. With injuries right now, we could have some potential to see Pearsall really take off in the second half of year. But if we're picking for next week, I'm going to go with Elijah Moore from the Browns. It's funny that like Jerry Judy would be my third choice on this. Judy sucks.

He can't, he catches everything in his body. His hands are awful. Also, Cedric Tillman is playing them. Like, Cedric Tillman was only off the field for three pass plays. He is assuming the Amari Cooper role, Cedric Tillman.

Yeah. And I think Elijah Moore is just straight up better than Jerry Judy. Yeah, he's actually looked really good. I kind of had given up on more. But I think with the Deshaun situation, it was basically a non-starter in that passing game. This was the worst passing game in the NFL.

So, yeah, Elijah Moore, he had six targets, six catches 41 yards last week. He had 12 targets this last week, eight catches 85 yards, outproduced and out targeted Jerry Judy. Both him and Tillman did. So I'm going to go with Elijah Moore. I like that one. I think Elijah Moore's good. Then in that case, I'll take Keon Coleman, the receiver for the bills, who I was pretty hard on for the first step in two months. But he really turned it on since the Cooper trade.

I think he had like barely 200 yards in the first six weeks of the season. He's got just under 200 yards of the last two games for Keon. rookies, man. Ladd McComkey's turned it on. Keon Coleman, yeah. Every single year, the rookie wall, it's the opposite. It's like the rookie wall's in September. And then actually the last couple months. I think Keon Coleman's the epitome of it. Another year, there's a couple guys you don't think it's going to happen for. I was a little dubious to Keon Coleman contributing a lot to the bills. But I think it's just, there's too much talent to not get on the train. And so I, Keon Coleman's the guy that I would add this week. And also, and I love him to death. I will say, because he's like

one of the most popular rookies, I've never seen the NFL draft itself, the 24 hour content cycle out of the draft turned someone more famous who was less famous than Keon Coleman, like the viral videos of him. So if he's been rostered in your league the whole time and he's not available, the other person I want to shout out is Xavier Leggett, who it's a little weird. Because yeah, another, he's Carolina Panther receiver. And Jalen Coker. And Jalen Coker.

I think Coker had more of a fake day. Coker played the second most snaps. I know, I know, but it was all garbage time. Touchdown was, you know, those touchdowns. Every game for the Panthers is garbage time. It's true. That's, you know, that's a good point. saw you when they scored touchdown

and they're kind of like sad like they just hand the ball and they're four more to go but the guys just want to say for Leggett is because we're recorded this Monday October 28th Deonti Johnson, the receiver for the Panthers and Adam Thielen

they're like the last receivers who could get traded because Hopkins went to the chiefs and Mark Cooper went to the bills and Devante Adams went to the Jets and then so you have Christian Kirk with the Jaguars, Brooke's collarbone Deonti Johnson and Thielan are two of the last real receivers in the trade market

if Deonti Johnson is getting like one third of every pass from Carolina goes to Deonti Johnson If he left, Xavier Leggett would get a crazy amount of targets. I don't even know if I'm saying you would play Xavier Leggett this week. It's more like, I wouldn't be, if Deonti Johnson got traded, Legate could be like pretty crazy valuable for the rest of the season. And so, yeah, and he's also like a very fun guy.

He's also like the other Keon Coleman, fun after the draft. The Keon Coleman is like growing on me. I've, you know, had some doubts about Keon Coleman. I think he's like really talented, but it might take a little while to get going in the league just because he's sort of raw. And I mean, they still like, they're not running him on a ton of different. different types of routes. It's like a lot of go balls,

a lot of throw it up in the end zone. Against the Seahawks on Sunday, they threw like a fade pass in the end zone to him. And Rieke Wollen, I think knocked it away or did a good job of like defending the play. And then Rik got like in his face and was talking shit and all this stuff. And they turned around on like the very next play, threw it up to the other side on Rik Wollin.

And Keon Coleman caught the touchdown. Yeah, that was sick. And I was like, oh, Keon and Colvin is just going to like go berserk. And Keon and Colvin just went up to have been pat him on the helmet. Like, he's like a sweetheart. I think I love this guy. He's so nice. And he did the block. He had the opportunity

to like bury Rick Wallet. Rieckwola just kind of like walked off and killed him on the helmet. I'm like, I love this guy. That's like when you get cut off on the road and you're driving instead of the middle finger, hit him with a thumbs up. Nothing hits more. Dude, that's like, did you see somehow the most disrespectful thing after the Hail Mary was, I don't know if it was Tyree

but one of the bears after that Washington Hill Mary were on the ground. And one of the receivers for Washington tried to pick them up off help them up off the ground, like really earnestly. I don't know if it was like their friends or they actually were just trying to dig at them. But something about like they had collapsed and like just heartbreak. And something about the Washington guy trying to help them up, I thought was actually

the funniest thing you could have done. It's like so condescending. Yeah. Oh, did you fall down? Oh my God. Like that Jimmy Butler meme where he's like over the scores table when he's exhausted in the finals. Like imagine LeBron's like, dude, you did you need water dude?

KK or anything? Did Stroud? Did Stroud Big Brother Anthony Richardson? People said he did. People said that he did go up. I didn't witness it. I mean, usually these quarterbacks meet after the game no matter what, but we did get some tweet saying that that Stroud was talking to Richardson. Well, Stroud's probably like, you know what, dude, no worries.

You needed a breather this week. It's get it, man. You know, you get into the professional world. We all need to take a breath from time to time, man. You're all good, baby. Maybe he'll get bench next week for just so we can rest because he's so tired. Yeah. He's just been working hard.

I want to mention two other guys. Just real quick here, Xavier Hutchinson and John Metchy for the Texans. could be sneaky pickups because Nico Collins still on the injured reserve. He's probably getting pretty close to coming back. I can't remember exactly which week he comes back. But Stefan Diggs might be out for the year. There's people talking about potentially ACL injury.

They're still evaluating him as of Monday morning. Yeah, Monday it's 4 o'clock eastern in the East Coast. And honestly, you'll probably have a diagnosis on Diggs by the time you listen to this. If he's out for the year, it might be worth going and grabbing. Metchy, I mean, I think Hutchinson's playing more, but I think Metchy's, there might be something there with him. He looked really good.

in the preseason. He just hasn't, he's just been kind of stuck behind a bunch of good players right now. And I kind of have still have some hope for Metchie going forward. Tight ends. Number one tight end, we would all agree, is if he's available, Kate Otton for the box. Frankly, I think he's not available. That one, I think he's not for sure. Number one tight end of the week, two touchdowns. Kate Oten's the tight end to eight on the year. Yeah. So I feel like Kate Oton, it would be cheating to be like, go ahead Kdaaten on waivers. If he's available, go get him. But also, I'd like to shout out, just what George Kettle did on Sunday night and how good

George Kittle's been, this is genuine. Like, George Kittle is having a phenomenal year, and we're not, we haven't discussed it really once. George Kittle is having the third best fantasy season of any tight end in the past five years. Oh, wow. He's unbelievable. Like, he's, he's, he's another guy on the list of, like, because he's 30. And I think we were, and I was a little afraid of George Kittle this year because he,

the injury had it last season. He lost 40 pounds of muscle because he couldn't lift for three months. And I was a little reticent of what happens when you're 30 and you have to regain 40 pounds of muscle before you can even start training. He's an animal man. He's actually like, he's every bit as good as people talk about with them. So he cut a little crosser and then ran away from the defense. I was like, no NFL player has ever been like galloping harder than he was galloping in that moment.

He was just absolutely galloping. It felt like he had like a soundtrack in his head and he was just like lifting up his knees as much as possible. He's just running so crazily and wildly. I think that's just kind of how he is though. He plays a very unbridled fun. style of football. It's just like really fun to watch. And he has six touchdowns this year, which is probably, I mean, I'm guessing

it's on pace to be like his career high, but we'll see. My old football coach in high school always said that like, it was an offensive line thing, but I think George, it applies to Kittle too. The theme in your head should be balls on parade. Yeah. And like that's very much when Kittle has the ball. It's like, yeah, yeah. Like that is, that is, and it just every time he has it, he just, he's such,

he's such a freaking like football player. He had, he had six touchdowns all of last season. and he has six already. In case you don't have Kettle, who are your number one? DK's your number one tied in for this week? I think, is it boring just to say Taysam Hill again?

I feel like we've said that every freaking week. Now he's coming back. He's healthy-ish. He had four rushes for 20 yards, two catches for 21 yards and four targets, and he completed a three-yard pass. Kendrae Miller, stop me if you've heard this before,

injured his hamstring in this game, so he's out again. I think Tateenosa. Was Dennis Allen, right? Was Dennis Allen ahead of the career? Is that really? It's hard to get mad at a player for getting hurt, but like, Kendrae Miller is kind of like blurring the lines there.

Like, I kind of am getting mad at him now. Can I tweet that? No. I think it's really easy to get mad at a player for being hurt. It's hard to like be an adult and get over it as we should. But I think getting angry at the injuries is actually the easy part. So I guess I'll go with Taysam Hill because he's going to be a big part of their goal line packages and everything. And it sounds like Derek Carr is getting close to being back.

So if Derek Carr gets back, I assume this offense will start to pick up a little bit more. I mean, the Rattler thing was interesting, but, you know, he's obviously got a long ways to go. I think Derek Carr will elevate this offense once he gets back. Adding to that, the Saints play the Panthers this week and don't underrate to your point how much they need Taysam Hill in the goal line to be basically the quarterback at 720. And how much they're still a divisional opponent and they do want to embarrass the Panthers. So they will run up this. Panthers defense is atrocious. Yeah, they're the worst team at league.

Craig looks like he did not have Taysomill. No, I don't know. I'm kind of between. Tason Hill. So Taysom Hill last week played two snaps a quarterback, three at running back, two at tight end, 14 in the slot,

and eight out wide. And he completed a pass. He ran it four times. He caught two passes. Yeah, all right. I'll go with. I'll go with Tays.

It's weird, but like tight end sucks. Like that's the thing. Tight end sucks. Like there are other guys I will be comfortable with. I feel more comfortable with tight end than I do running back this week. Yeah.

I think that Taseem Hill, again, he could suck. But I think the point is all the tight ends could suck. Like, yeah, Hunter Henry could have like two cats. matches for 20 yards.

The difference of Taysa. I know we've been saying this if it has happened but like this has been hurt but Taysimill is the only guy here who if like when Kate Otton is 29 points you're like that's kind of well even him it's kind of like

his Godwin and Evans are out. Tase Mill is the guy that you're like if he gets three touchdowns in a game you're like oh. Yeah. That happens sometimes. Yeah. Everyone else is kind of like what?

All right. There you go. Craig. Not very excited for Taysimal showdown time. It is the Taysam Hill Showdown time. All right. This one's from David.

Dave. You talked a lot about Mason Rudolph last week and who he could be named after. It's not named after a reindeer. The name is giving reindeer. We're going to pretend that Mason Rudolph does not evoke reindeer? Rudolph on this. I guess. What is the song?

Won't you guide my sleigh tonight? I'm glad you brought that up. The question is, what year was that story written? Rudolph the Red nose reindeer. Oh, God. The story? Yeah. This is a good question.

I like this one. Rudolph the red nose reindeer. I feel like we're thinking too much. We should just do it. I don't want to do. 3, 2, 1. 1962. I said 1940.

Okay. I said 42 because that was also the year of that. Damn it. Highfitz. If it's just prices right at me. The answer is 1939. Oh. Wow.

The start of the war. Hell yeah. D.K. winning your old man corner, D.K. I remember. that year. It was a good year. 1939 was a good year. Actually, it was a tough year. There was darkness of britching. It's fucking brutal.

So yeah, who did I win? I went. Taysam Hill. All right. Congrats. Tastom Hill against the the Panthers is actually kind of a nice win. I guess I'll take, I get Hunter Henry is probably smarter, but I actually screw it. I still want Zach Hertz, man.

I still just, yeah, that was my second choice. Like at the end of the day, there's an element of this of like, they're so close. I'm like, do you, would you rather have steak watching Jaden Daniels or steak watching Jacoby Preset. I would just like to have a piece,

a small piece at this Washington offense. So give me Zacherts. I know that's probably the dumb worst answer. Just choose the team of destiny. That's all. Yeah,

like one team is the most magical team in years and the other ones the Patriots. So I'm going to take Washington and Zacherts. Also, he had 11 targets too. So that's good.

I will still do Hunter Henry, I suppose. Hopefully make Drake may plays. He has a concussion. I'll do that. I also want to shout out for real deep leagues if you're in need.

Will Disley, the tight end. on the Chargers, DK's doppelganger. The last three weeks, so they had the other tight end Hayden Hurst. He's been out for a while

with a groin injury. Will Disley has stepped in. The last three weeks, he is sixth among all tight ends and targets per game. Will Disillie, sixth.

He had 41 and 81 yards in his last two games. So Will Disillie's kind of lingering. Looked good last week. Lingerer? Linger. He's lingering. He is.

Will Disley's lingering. Feels like a coach's guy. Oh, big coach's guy. He blocks. Yeah. People like disley. Yeah. The diss.

If he was good, the Billy Dix. Yeah. Quarterback streamers, if you need a quarterback, Bow Nix, the quarterback for the Broncos. Bo Nix is straight up

a top five quarterback in the last month. Strait up. Bonix. Bo Nix. But yeah, the only quarterbacks that have more,

I'm throwing out Russ because you played one game. The only quarterbacks that have more points per game than Bo Nix in the last month are Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hertz, and Baker Mayfield.

And the only quarterbacks that have more carries, carries than Bo Nix in the last month. month are Jalen Hertz and Lamar Jackson. Like he has like Boe Nix has carried the ball more than Jaden Daniels in the last month. So you know,

that is what it is. And so he should be rostered and probably started over every pocket passing quarterback. Also James. Yeah. I would take Bonix over James. But then also then I would take I would take James if Boenix is gone. Also Malik Willis in case Jordan Love is out. Although it sounds like he might be ready to come back next week.

I feel like the Packers are kind of good at playing the, we're not going to tell you who's going to start until the very last second game. But Malik Willis is another one who will run around a lot. I think when he was the starter, he scored a bunch of points for Packers just because he was running. And he's a better passer than I thought it would be.

So Malik Willis also out there, playing Detroit. And if you're a deep league, Stafford does have Cooper Cup and Pook and Akua back. I don't know. Playing the Terrible Seahawks defense. Defense is the stream. The Eagles are playing the Jaguars.

I know the Jaguars have been a little better recently, but Christian Kirk has a broken collar, but I believe and he's out for probably the whole season. Brian Thomas has a chest injury and might play this week, might not, though. I feel like, again, the week to week was thrown out. And I feel like that usually means it's not good. So the Eagles might be playing the Jaggs that have Christian Kirk and Brian Thomas. So that would be huge.

And again, the Eagles defense is pretty solid. I also, I just keep staring at the Patriots Titans game. And like, I know that's kind of whack to pick one of those teams, but I do think it's really funny to have one of the defenses in that game. That's obviously not very sexy. But I feel like a lot of the defenses this week aren't awesome for streaming purposes. But the Eagles, I think, probably are available. I feel like a lot of people didn't play them versus the Bengals.

Yeah, giving up two touchdowns the last three weeks. Yeah, the Eagles defense is certainly a lot better. So I think the Eagles is pretty solid. The other one if you really are also, commanders are playing the Giants. The commander's defense has been better. We made a lot of fun with the commanders' defense. They have. They're getting better.

Yeah. And the Saints defense is also not something that you watch Thursday football and you're like, Saints, but they are playing the Panthers. And Bryce Young is probably going to play again. So that's always doable if you want to play against the Bryce Young and the Panthers. All right. Kai, want to hop in here? Tell us how we're doing, pick a team.

What's up, guys? How are we doing? Hey, it's good to see you. Yeah, Go Frogs. Kendry Miller, my guy. Can't get on the field, so that's good. He should go back to TCU. Gosh, honestly, we need him.

It's rough over there, too. Rough in the college land for TCU, also very rough in the pros land for TCU. So just all altogether, not great. But still go frogs, always. Last week, I chose Danny Hyfitz and Danny Hyfitz lost. So that means I lost. And that means all. Who did Hyfitz have?

It was a sigh up. Hyfitz had Kamani Vidal, Jawan Jennings, Zachertz for 12.8 points. Yeah, Jennings. Jennings unfortunately did not play for Hyfitz. Yeah, that was an unfortunate. That's part of it, though, you know? Nature of the game. True.

Stuff. Took the, took the swing and unfortunately did not connect. This is where it gets interesting. Craig currently has 9.6 points with Jalen Tolbert, Noah fan, and Jalen Warren to play tonight. DK has 15.7 points. And like I said, Hyphids has 12.8.

So Craig could jump both of them. Three points, a little over three points to beat Hyfitts and a little over six to beat D.K. with Jalen Warren. So tight one. Tap into Monday Night Football. Should be good.

I like that. Kai, do you have a trivia score update? I do. Craig, you're in the lead. Nice. You have 10. It's close, though. Yeah, it's close.

DK has eight and hyphets of six. It's been neck and neck all season. So who you picking today, Kai? You know, this is a, a really, really difficult one because you guys split trivia. And also, it's just kind of like a lot of these players are just suck.

Yeah. That's, yeah, that's what's getting at. I think I'll go with, I think I'll go with you, Hyfitz. Raylan Allen, Keon Coleman, and Zach Ertz, even though you let his straight. That's a pretty solid squad. My team sucks. I admit it. Who's Craig's team? Craig has, hold on. Justice Hill, Cedric Tillman, and Hunter Henry.

Yeah, I don't want that team either. No. And D.K. has Tyler, your Elijah Moore and Taysam Hill. Kai, when I inevitably fail you again and you lose again, I think you tried the Oreo and we all did the Coke Zero Oreos last week. I tried it twice and I tried the Coke.

Let's just make sure that that's on wax. Kai has really been freaking grinding. He's like been getting after it. I have to give him his flowers on that. I think next week we have to get it in Halloween. This week. This week. But like next week's show because then you get all the candy.

What's your go-to candy, Kai? I have a lot of them. I'm a big candy guy. That's why I'm like, I'm pretty excited about this. This is like the first Kai's guys. I've been like, no,

we're going to give you the weirdest shit we can find, so don't worry. I just, I feel like it's, I feel like it's low risk, high reward. Maybe I find a new candy. I don't know.

I'm excited. I think we should each nominate a candy for Kai to try. I would like, I'm trying to think of like weird old candies from my childhood. The candy corn is like the famous gross one. Oh,

candy corn stinks. Yeah, I'm just gonna say like black licorice. just reminds me with my grandma. Like a good and plenty. I actually don't mind black licorice.

What? Yeah. I think good and plentys are okay. I think they're all right. That's a bad take. Maybe you're worst. I want Kai to have an almond joy, for sure.

That's good one. I've never had an almond joy. I've kind of lived in my life 25 years in trying to avoid them. So in my opinion, it's super low on the candy bar hierarchy. I really want Kai to get his hands on an Abba Zaba.

Have you guys had one of those? Never heard of it. That is. You never heard of it is. Habizabah, Hyvitz, have you? Was it made by the band? What's an Abizaba? I don't know.

I don't know if it was made by the band. Taffy candy bar with peanut butter center. It's made by the Annabelle Candy Company in California. You never seen an Aba Zaba before? Actually, I did have. I had these in the Spotify office this last week. Really? You had an Abizaba?

I think so. You ate an Aba Zaba? I didn't know what it was. It was handed to me and I ate it. D.K. has a lot of fun stories that way. Look, it was when Tyler Parker hands you a candy, it says try this. you do it. Obviously, that's a good take.

Hyphitz. It makes sense that you don't, you're unfamiliar with it, Hyphitz. I don't know why this is the case, but, or the phrasing here is funny, but on Wikipedia,

it says Abbas Zababars can be found almost exclusively west of the Rockies. What, like, it's like, Cors Light? I don't know why it's fucking braids like that. Because all the clouds

get stuck on the mountains. They can't get the abazas across the mountain. There's the, the passes are all snowed in this time of year. Dude, my favorite candy recently is the, um,

Rises came out. Reese is, talk about, we just joke, Oreos. Reese's is iterating. Dude, the Reese's, they have these, dude, it's the fast break bar is really good. The Reese's fast break is fucking sick. That's kind of like a take five. Take five is one of the most underrated candy bars.

It's pretzel, caramel, and chocolate, I believe. Do they still make Nutrageous? I've never even heard of that. What? Yeah, I don't know. That's a crazy name for candy. I'm going to have a Nutrageous. I feel like Kai Hyvitz and I were talking about like what candy for Kai to try for like a good two minutes.

And then at the very end, just in the background, D.K.'s just, I'm going to have a nutrageous. This is just an excuse for me to try a nutrageous, which I haven't tried since probably the year 2000. All right. So what do we decide on? Abba Zaba, Almond Joy, take five. I'm excited. Maybe I'll like one of them. You're in for a treat. Quite literally. Good pun.

All right. Thank you, Guy. All right. We also got a ton of people emailing us about the Wade Jones. All right. And if you listen to the Sunday show, it was pretty funny. But basically, how did we get on this? I don't remember. Oh, the Dwayne Wade statue.

Yes. We're talking about how Dwayne Wade's just been stabbed in the back his whole career because No one knows what he looks like or his name, what his name is. Correct. The city of Miami has largely forgotten Dwayne Wade. He's the most famous person of whom no one knows his name or what he looks like. Do the Wade Jones think of great. His name?

Of course. Of course. Wade Jones. Dwayne Wade just looking around in the crowd. Like who was she introduced? And it was some like city councilwoman just completely butchered it. My favorite was, I didn't know. So Ted Kennedy when he was alive and he was in the Senate, I guess back when the biggest thing the government had going on was baseball players doing steroids.

And they had Mark McGuire and Sammy Susson. Back when they had smaller fish to fry. Yeah. Ted Kennedy brings them in to testify. And he says, now. legendary home run sluggers, Mike McGuire and Sammy Souser. Oh, no. It wasn't just like a thick Kennedy accent that made it sound fun. Oh, yeah, Craig, do the, do the Kennedy accent.

I don't know how he would get to Souser. Sammy Sousa. Sousa. And Mike McGuire. Mike and Mark, I suppose. Mike, McWire. Mike, yeah. Oh, maybe he said Mark, you know.

Did he just sound like Mike? Mike? Mike? He's from Dorchester. I don't know. Deutsche. I don't know if you know how to say that. All right.

Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you for email. E-mails, ring your fantasy football. That's all that. That's it. Yeah. No, that's good. Let's wrap it up.

Wrap it up. Wrap it up, B. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, everyone. Emails at ringer fantasy football. Gmail.com. We've a very fun. Very special power out for you this week on Wednesday.

Please check it out. Follow us Instagram and TikTok. Ring your fantasy football. Again, there's going to be a lot of great stuff there this week. Thank you, everyone who emailed it about Wade Jones, and I'm sorry to all the people who said that they were laughing so hard at the gym that Craig almost killed them. So thank you for sticking with the show, even though that almost happened to you. I'm going to get sued for killing somebody.

Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Weedis. Weedis? Yeah. Why do I know that name? Teenage Dirtbag? Yeah, I'm just the teenage dirtbag, baby. The scintech to iron maiden.

Weedis. I'm really happy you're here, DK., because you introduce a whole new genre of music that doesn't come across my desk very often. That is literally actually my goal. Yeah. I know.

At some point, I should just make a playlist for you guys of the music I was listening to when I was in high school and stuff because I feel like you just did miss out on that whole era. Craig especially, you feel like you just listen to the oldies and current music. even though technically some people would consider my music oldies at this point. Can I admit something to you guys this week

that I've actually been meeting to get off my chest? Are you going to say you didn't know what Emo stood for? Yes. We were all sitting next to each other and I didn't tell you guys this, but I turned during we watched the documentary together and I, they were like, Emo for emotional and me and shout out Daniel Chen who works at the ring or turn to each other. We're like,

What? Didn't put that together. No, I had, I'll be honest. You know what you always always wonder what things left in your life you're going to make you feel that way. I thought I was running out. And that one was like, whoa, emo is for emotional. I did not know that. I mean, nobody says emotional. I feel like emo has taken on like a completely new identity of its own. Like I do not think emotional when I hear emo either. So I get it. Like what's the band or song that you think of when you think of emo hyvitz? Some like sad whiny punk. Like chemical romance. I don't know. Sad whiny punk. Craig

says with disdain. I almost It's almost adjacent to goth in my head. I don't know why. Yeah, I get it. I get it. Gough is emo? It's like on the sliding scale. It's like,

emo comes before Goth. And I think a little, he is a little emo. He's always talking about his ex. Who are talking about? Who? Wait, who did you say? I thought you said Jared Gough.

No, G-O-T-H. Oh my God. No. Goss. I thought even Gough. I was like, I guess you could say he's emo. He does talk,

he does talk about like the Rams, like, he's like all mad at him. You know what? D.K., you're a good improviser. You took that and you ran with it. You said yes and you were like, Jared Goff is emo.

That's good. Among all the quarterbacks, it kind of works, honestly. I wonder if 99% of people think of dumb or 80, and then 20% are like, dude, I didn't know that anyone found out there right there. All right, goodbye, everyone. Must be 21 plus and present in select states for Kansas

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