The Ringer NFL Show - Waiver Wire Targets for Week 12

Episode Date: November 22, 2022

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Hi, I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Holbeck. We are looking at week 12 as coming up. The fantasy football regular season is winding down. All the waivers are getting more and more important as we go. So we're going to give you the most important must add players entering week 12. We're going to give our top players at each position. And then if we all picked the same player or any of us picked the same player, we're going to do tiebreakers, and we're going to go through it hopefully this simulates waivers.

And we're going to figure out. And we'll do trivia in the meantime. You'll figure it out. It's not complicated. There are no buy weeks this week. I don't know why. Don't get that, but okay. And so they're doing it in week 14 instead.

So that's stupid. Week 14, there are like six teams on by. And then this week with Thanksgiving, there are none. I don't really was, I don't know why or whatever, but sure. Okay. They wanted to ruin everyone's Thanksgiving. There was no teams that could just enjoy Thanksgiving. That's actually kind of fair, though.

Right. True. It's good. Nobody gets to see their family. No. No one sees your family. That's what it's all about. They don't see their family.

That's why we play the game. So it's not the worst week. There's games on Christmas this year too, by the way. Christmas is on a Sunday, so that's great. Anyway, let's go. All right, want to just hop into running backs then? We're just going to go through. All right, Dika, give me your number one running back.

You would add entering week 12. Well, I waffled on this one, but I'm going to go with Latavius Murray for the Broncos. He is now the starter for the team for the long haul. By default. We put Melvin, we burn Melvin Gordon last night, didn't we? And then he got released this morning. So was that mean or was that accurate?

It was accurate. We didn't burn Melvin Gordon. We burned Kareem Hunt. Oh, well, we were talking about burning Melvin Gordon. I think we decided Melvin Gordon wasn't worth burning. And then the Broncos were like, actually burning is not even far enough. Yeah, so they got tired of the fumbles, evidently. Chase Edmonds, by the way, also high ankle spring.

So he's going to be out several weeks. So now it's Latavius Murray's backfield. What a journey that we've taken this year. Latavius Murray was taken off of, I think the Ravens had him for a minute, and then he went to the Saints or vice versa. And then the Broncos signed him off of the practice squad. Now he is their starter for the rest of the year, assuming nothing else happens there. Like, how insulting must it be?

Can you imagine being Melvin Gordon? Javante Williams goes down. They sign Latavis Murray. They trade for Chase Evans. Chase Evans sprains his ankle and is like out for multiple weeks. And they're like, even though that guy's out, you're still fired. Like we'd rather have someone that isn't even here

than continue to have you. It's because he keeps fumbling. He can't hold onto the damn ball. He's fumbled like 25 times in his career or something crazy. It's sad. It's like honestly, I would say that I think Melvin Gordon has had the longest career of any player

or any running back that had fumbling problems. Like a serious fumbling issue. Yeah, like there are great running backs who've had that. Melvin Gordon's like the worst running back who had a long career. but kept fumbling. Melvin Gordon in my mind seems ancient. And then Latavius Murray is three years older than Melvin Gordon.

Right. There's both two of the oldest running backs in the NFL. Latvus Murray is 33 years old, and he's averaging 3.3 yards per carry, and he's our first pickoff waivers. And he was mine, too. Also, wait, I got to give you this. This is kind of wild. Melvin Gordon, oh, I can't find the number, but basically he got fumble sixth.

And, like, I don't know the exact thing, but basically there's been something like eight or ten fumble sixes in the last like couple of years, for years, and Melvin Gordon is half of them. It's not great. It's not great. So yeah, RIP, sorry, Melvin Gordon. And part of the reason why I think I went with him is I like to look at the matchups

a lot, right, especially with running back. And the Denver offense is so putrid and God, their offense is now, Russell Wilson, you know, Judy's still out, so it's like Cortland Sutton and Kendall Hinton, they got Greg Dulcich a rookie at tight end, they're running back as Latvia Smarry, but they are playing the Panthers. If there's

any game that maybe Denver could have a lead in, it's against Carolina. So that's why I think Murray makes sense here if you need something. I still like Rashad White for the Bucks. It's probably less solid of a grip on a roll, but I still think I would go Rashad White of everyone available. But Latavis Murray is totally fine because he actually has a job. I just don't know what, I just, I don't know what Rashad White's role is actually going to be. That Germany game was weird.

Fournette was banged up. He had the passport situation. So Rashad White got 22 carries. But prior to that game, I mean, he never had more than eight carries in a game. Latavius, although incredibly unsexy, is at least guaranteed to get the goal line work and start the game. Incredibly unsexious.

Wow. The unsexiest, as you could imagine. I like Rashad White, too, and I didn't have him on the list just because he's 61% rostered in Yahoo. I thought that was a little bit high. I don't know what he is in ESPN, but still. He's below 40 in ESPN. He was my number two guy, but I just,

this week, if you need, somebody, I would, I would say Latavius. Long term, Rashad White, though. All right, so it's Latavis Murray Showdown time. Yeah, between D.K.N. It is the Latavius Murray unsexy showdown time. All right, this one's from Tate. Tate.

How many total hot dogs has Joey Chestnut eaten in competition? Ooh. Has he been doing this for like 20 years? 20 years, 10 years, 15 years? I guess that's part of the question, huh? All right, I can come up with something. Text the group at the same time. Tom, you guys are your answer? Okay.

All right. Three, two, one, send. Dekis says a thousand. Oh, wait. I swear to God. You said a hundred and five? No, I said one thousand fifty. I assume that one hundred and five would be like the least informed answer.

No. You remember I was texting you guys yesterday about how my stupid texting on my Mac is slow and the last letter always gets sent on. laggy. Yeah. So we're very close. 105. He's almost done that in like a sitting. The answer is like 19,000.

19,000? Wait, really? I guess maybe he's done way more competitions than I'm imagining. It's not just the hot dog getting contest on the ESPN. Dude, that's, wow. Think about how bad that is for your party. How many has he eaten in just the main July 4th contest? Well, he definitely, he's been doing 60 or 70 a year for like a decade.

Like 15 years? Yeah. Good God. 19,000 hot dogs. I'm worried about this man's body coming from the person who eats at least one cassidia every day. Well, in the world...

Wait, what? You eat one cassidia every day? At least. What? Dude, I love casadias. Are you making the casadias? Yeah. I mean, those are pretty easy to make.

Two tortillas and some cheese, man. That's why I want to know. What are you putting in the cassidia? You do spice them up, do some meat or anything? You put a tortilla down. You sprinkle some cheese on it And then you put another tortilla on top of it

And then you don't put anything else in it Just cheese Yep You eat that every day? Correct. You don't do like you don't add like Chicken or steak or like No, it's like

Onions or peppers How long have you been doing this for? Probably like 15, 20 years So is this like lunch? When are you eating this? Yeah, lunch. D.K. Occasionally dinner with this.

D.K. It's like how Steve Jobs wore the same thing every day. D.K. It doesn't want to have to think about lunch. The funny thing is, even after all these years, I still really look forward to it. It's so delicious. I love cassadies. Do you have an addictive personality? Not real. I mean, I guess, well, certainly with this, yeah, but not with most stuff, I'd say. So you've never iterated beyond the mixed cheese?

I have. I have. I don't like it as much. Really? Do you, oh, next question. Hold on. This is worse than the 19,000 hot dogs, I think, because if you, you have, I have, I have. you've been doing this for 12 years, not to do the math on air, but that's about 19,000 casadias. Yeah. Wait, it's every day for 12 years?

Well, not literally every day, but like most days. Yeah. A lot of days. There's sometimes where I, like, have to cut it out of my diet or whatever because I'm starting to feel crappy. And I'll just, like, not buy it for, like, a couple months or whatever. And then do, like, a cleanse, get casadias out of my system. And then...

Detox. Yeah, it's like going to, like, a... or something. And then I see it at the store and I'm hungry. I'm like, okay. So you go to cassidia rehab and then finally you're back in a safe way and your mouth starts watering when you see the tortillas. Do you buy like high-end tortillas? Do you get boozy with it? Or is it just like your classic mission tortillas and like shredded cheese? Yeah. This is the most wild thing I've ever heard. I have strong takes on cheese. The types of cheese you put in, like you can't put cheddar in. It's too oily. I don't like it.

So like I usually get the Italian blend or the Mexican blend. And then there's a kind of Costco that I can't even, I don't even know what it is. That's why cheddar cheese is hard on burgers because it doesn't melt as easily as things like American cheese. I don't like it when you get all, like your hands get all oily if you're trying to eat a cassidia. Do you order casidias at restaurants? Absolutely not. Oh. You know what's funny about that is restaurant casadias are fantastic and they're usually way better than a cassidia you can make at your house.

Well, I've been living backwards, Craig. This is really bizarre. This is all wild. I can't believe any of this is happening. All right. Should you back to football? Yes, but in defensive DKs and my guess for the Joey Chessnet thing, we were just thinking July 4th. Oh, I'm so past that.

I'm just stuck on the cassidy every day. Okay. Do you not have a food that you like to eat? Not every day. I'm sure. I don't want to be mean, but I have thoughts. I mean, go for it. What do you got?

I just, I. No, we're going to just move up. Other running backs. High Fitzhitz, who are you taking? So, wait, actually, no. So, D.K. gets, uh, no, I get Latavius. No, you get, really everyone's spiritually kind of lost there, but I get some. Okay.

I get Latavis. Uh, I'm going to go to Smajapirine for the Bengals. You know, caught three touchdown passes last night or two? Was it three? Two or three. He had three touchdowns. Would you get him? So Joe Mixon left the game with a concussion.

We don't know if he'll be able to play next week. Right. It's kind of always up with. the air. Sometimes guys can return in a week from a concussion. Sometimes they can't. Are you willing to risk your only waiver priority on a guy who might still just be a backup next week of mix and plays? Or would you rather get like Rashad White or, you know, we can get to later guys in this list? Well, again, I like Rashad White a lot. So I'll definitely put him. I keep forgetting that he's part of this discussion. But yes, I'll roll with Rashad White and make Hyfitts to choose the third guy.

The other thing was Samasha Piran is the Bengals are playing the Titans this week. So it's like, It's not even a great matchup. You would still play him if you have Somaget Piran because, I mean, Chris Evans, who's the other backup there also is like a knee injury. So it's just Somaget Pryan Rola. Like he's going to get all the work and he's a good pass catcher. So like, I mean, he's playable, but it's not like some insane matchup. Might catch him passes is the deal. Yeah.

Charmagee might be back too. So I think, but that's like a clear top tier. I think Rashad White, if he's out there, Latavius Murray, if he's out there. And Samajai Piron, that's definitely like the top tier for me. I also think James White for the bills is just like a really good option if he's still out there. Like, it's the whole thing's murky,

but that's kind of the point. James Cook. What did I just say? James White. Yeah, definitely meant James Cook. James White's super retired. Similar vibes. Yeah, exactly. You're hoping James Cook's like a way better version of James White.

I have no idea what the bills are going to do at running back. I have no idea what's going on. But basically James Cook is good at playing football and the bill's offense needs some juice and he's playing more. They traded for Neheim-Hines. They don't really use Nehemines. I don't know what's going on. two weeks from now we're saying Nehue Hines is good.

But they have, the bills have been so thirsty for some kind of like pass-catching scat-back to just like take, just do stuff. And I think that James Cook, I don't want to, electric's overused as a word. I wish I had like a better cinnamon. I can't speak English. Cinnamon. He's electric compared to Devon Singletary. I think James Cook is worth a flyer based on getting more work.

And again, if he doesn't, all right, you cut him. But if he does get more work, I think it's worth it. if these guys are gone. So that's kind of the next guy I would target. Yeah. And then also, Cam Acres was revived from the dead this week, but I can't imagine anyone I have less trusted than Camacres. I'd rather have Justin Jackson for the Lions.

You couldn't pay me to take Canemakers. A couple other guys. Gus Edwards could be returning this week. If so, I actually think he might be closer to the top. And then the Falcons backfield has kind of reduced down to just a two-headed monster of Cordarell Patterson and Tyler Algier, who's actually getting consistent work. So, you know, I don't know.

if he's above the Mendoza line, but Tyler Algeria, if you're super desperate. All right, let's get to wide receivers. DK. I don't mean week 12. It's number one wide receiver you'd add on waivers. This one's really tough, actually. I'm wondering if you guys will have someone different here.

I'm going with Paris Campbell for the Colts. Rostored in 40% of leagues. He's averaging nine and a half targets a game over the last four with Matt Ryan. Like, to me, that's all I really need to tell you. Team high 27% target rate in that stretch, 18.4 PBR points per game. 38 targets, 29 catches,

270 yards, three touchdowns. He's gone double digits in three out of four games. And I don't really think there's a big reason to expect this to change. They're just going to continue to pepper him underneath and let him run after catch. I mean, it's a great big. Yeah, the thing about the Colts now are competent, right? Like, their offense is actually, you know, it's not the best thing in the world,

but they're going to put up points and be able to compete. They're playing Pittsburgh this week, who doesn't have the strongest past events. I don't mind this. Every week, Paris Campbell's going to have. five catches. So if you're in full PPR, he's going to have like eight or nine. He's basically like really easy double digit points, but he's really fast so like you can end up with the big play. I think he's in the top tier. I had Traylon Burks number one for the

Titans because again, I like that too. Trailing Berks, I think is going to probably have a really big role for the Titans down the stretch. He was on Thursday in football. Christian Watson was like way better in that game. But Traylon Burks is just clearly like the number one option this passing game. There isn't much of a passing game, but he's just so explosive that I think that he's like the kind of guy that could be special for you down the stretch and it's the exact kind of guy

you want. But there's a top tier guy guys, Traillen-Berkes is in that, Paris Campbell's in that, I also have Donovan People Jones and the Browns in that and they're all really good. For Berks?

Just to add to what you said about Berks, he had a 30% target rate. Obviously, again, this is a low-volume passing game, but 30% target rate and he played less than half of the snaps. Like if he gets in there and starts playing like a lot, I mean, his numbers could definitely go up

and then Tanna Hill looked really, really good. So if Tana Hill gets hot in the second half of the year, or down the stretch, I should say, you know, that's going to be good for him.

So, yeah, I like this one a lot. To me, it's just the past volume for the Titans is going to be less reliable, but I do like the upside a lot for Trailer's.

Part of the reason I don't love Paris Campbell as much is I think that Jeff Saturday is intent on, like, throwing less with Matt Ryan. I think Matt Ryan's still check down King and going to throw more,

but I don't think that they're going to have the most completions in the NFL with Matt Ryan as quarterback because Jeff Saturday's the, coach, which they didn't have so many coaches. Yeah, but isn't Berks the exact same thing? Yeah, that's fair. I just think that Berks is the differences that...

He's more explosive downfield. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's a downfield guy where his Paris Campbell's kind of just like bitter patter, like Rondeel Moore routes, just kind of feeding near the line of scrimmage. And also just the Titans throw less, but also the cults of Michael Pittman, the cults do have, like, other ways to live. You mentioned Donovan Pules Jones. He's incredible.

We talked about Omari Cooper last night about him being a Glansberg. TPJ, big Glansburg this year. He's been quietly really good. Like 50 plus yards receiving in five, six, seven straight games. I'm looking at the last five. It definitely has it over the last five. He's been really consistent.

And now, you know, potentially, I don't know what the office is going to look like with Sean Watson, but like, you could maybe have them be a little bit more explosive down the field. So I like Donovan People's Jones a lot too. But Craig, who did you pick? No one asked me. I was just waiting.

Very rude. My pick was Donovan People's Jones. So. Incredible. He's the wide receiver 27 the last five weeks. Like he's not even, I can't believe he's still so lowly owned

on fantasy platforms. He's below 40% on ESPN. He's like 45% on Yahoo. Because no one talks about him. Also, Cleveland, is the easiest schedule to wide receivers in the fantasy playoffs. Like,

Donovan People Jones could legit start in the playoffs for you. Yeah, there's really good options in waivers. There's like league winning stuff happening on late waivers. But, you know, too bad people grab Cadaris, Tony. instead.

Stand by it. Stuff. Wow, so no showdown time. We also got to just mention Darius Slayton. He's still out there because, dude, I have one getting on time. I thought about him a lot, honestly. Wando Robinson is out for the season.

So the Giants down. So they traded Cadaristone. Sterling Shepherds out of the season. Wondell Robinson's out of the season. Colin Johnson's out of the season. Despite all this, Kenny Gallaudet, four catches, 51 yards in the entire year. Don't even know that's possible.

By love. Darius Slaten is just... I think Gallaudet is more like people are begging you to take him. He's like he's not even free. Penny stock. With something where people are begging you to take it, you want to. I don't know.

It's like people just handing out flyers by the supermarket. It's just like, I don't want that. Like, please get it out. It's like those people trying to get you to like sign the petition to save the whales outside the grocery store. No one, everyone's like, all right, leave me alone. Bad, well, it's really poor timing with you with Wales. This was recorded this Monday. USA just tied whales, Greg.

Okay. Well, sorry. I'll sign a petition for the U.S. Offenton to me. Insensitive with you. Also, I want to shout out, if those guys are taking, because I know we've been talking about those guys, and there's a chance that all of the people

which mentioned are gone. Matt Collins for the Raiders, who did not have a great week, but I don't care because, like, they're playing the Broncos, and the Broncos have a really good secondary. I know Patsertan got burned to, like, lose the game. But I kind of think Matt Collins is super solid.

Devante's been crushing it, but, like, he's the only other guy, really, in this offense right now. It's kind of just like Devante, Mac Collins and Foster Roe. Dickie, you're, like, laughing like, this is, like, ridiculous. I just, no, it's not a bad piece of advice. to me, Mac Collins is like the type of player where I just absolutely refuse to add him

no matter what. Like he could have like 20 points a game for the next like six weeks. I still be like, nah. He had nine targets. I have no good reason for it. I'm just, I have no good reason for it.

I'm just saying like, I'm not going to add Matt Collins. DK Katnip. DK. K's going to come out and just, yeah, I don't know. I mean, he's probably, he's probably good. He's fine. He's averaging like seven targets a game at his last four games. Yeah.

Also, part of me is like, is Julio Jones going to come back from the buy and just be like incredible. I added him in my, league. He's probably going to be useless in his career is over. However, he went to Germany. And they had to buy. I have to say. They had a buy. I mean, he could come back and

look like he's 29 years old. They said that they wanted to save him for when it really matters. And this is crunch time. She's throwing it out there. And then Van Jefferson, in theory, for the Rams, but I'm more like, actually, I'd rather have zero Rams receivers than whoever's left. Odell Beckham? Odell is not going to the rent. Oh, you're saying, yeah, you can add Odell for sure. We'll see where it goes. Where do you think he's going to go?

I don't know. He's a fair weather fan but like as a player it's incredible. He's like trying to a ring chase in his season where no one can figure out who's gonna get a race.

It's like baseball. Baseball teams just like trade for pitchers like halfway through the season just so they can rent them for the playoffs. And the A's did that once with John Lester. He's just like rented John Lester for six, four months. I'm kidding and I don't believe this

but I also kind of think I'm right. I think that Odell's waiting for a Super Bowl contender that's not like cold. Like he doesn't actually want to go to Buffalo. Dallas. Why wouldn't you go to Dallas? Well, I kind of think he is going to end up in Dallas because after that win last week, it's like, I don't know.

Buffalo, what is O'Dell Beck going to do in Buffalo? I guess he only has to spend like two months there, but still, it seems cold. Yeah. Anyway, tight ends. Yeah. Cow Pitts has sprang his MCL. Tor and how Pits is going to surgery. Torres.

Torrne MCL. Torrne MCL. You know, bittersweet because we are finally all free from the shackles. however, you know, sucks for the guy. Yeah, it sucks for him. I feel a little free. I feel a little lighter today.

That's all I'll say. Listen, now I can start Pat Firemooth so I'm having to think about it. I feel a little, I just feel a little lighter. Just makes your decision making easier. That's not South Switzerland. I very happily just plug in Mr. Foster Moreau for the Rangers. Oh, fantasy is so poison my brain.

The second anyone gets hurt, the first thing I think. What does it mean for me? How does it affect me? So bad. But like it's just an extension of fandom Like when Wondell Robinson goes down I wish I could altruistically being like Oh my God I wonder how that'll affect his knees When he's 40 years old and trying to play with his children

Guess what? Never thought. That never been the first thing I thought of Just like oh my God I don't think the Giants are going to win on Thanksgiving now Yeah What's that line going to be? Is it already out? It should be 12 I mean I don't want to It should be easily double digits

I don't know I think that there are people they will have to hire for the New York Giants to play cornerback Between now and Thanksgiving I think you should audition I try out. Anyway, I'm taking Foster Moreau. Craig, who are you taking a tight down?

Oh, Moreau. Is Moreau? I didn't realize he was available. I originally had above Moreau Greg Dolcich, but I want Moreau. All right, Moro, it is. D.K., who are you taking? I'm taking Joanne Johnson for the Saints.

Touchdown machine. He's the tight end two behind Kelsey in the last six weeks. That's insane. He is? Well, he's just catching touchdowns every week with Andy Dalton just looks to him. him in the end zone. And it's kind of it.

You're playing touchdown roulette. It is touchdown roulette. However, he's getting the targets, too. Like, he's running a lot of routes. He's getting the targets. This is what we talk about when we talk about utilization. Like, he's out there running routes. He's getting looks.

He's in this offense. Whereas with a lot of these other guys, you just can't depend even on the targets coming. So, I mean, I'm going with John Johnson, but I think, you know, I do like Dulc. Wait, who did you guys pick? You picked Foster Monroe. Foster Murrow.

I like Dulcich, too. Dulcich's utilization is strong. Logan Thomas of the commanders is kind of coming out of nowhere. Now he's looking kind of strong, but a lot of these guys are very hit or miss. And keep an eye out tonight for Trey McBride. That's the third, yeah, those are the other two people who had, Thomas. But yeah, Chihuahuan's like touchdown roulette,

except it keeps being the same number. And you're like, well. But isn't he the exact player? You keep every week you keep monitoring him going, man, he scored another touchdown. He can't keep that up. He scores another touchdown. And then finally the week you add him is definitely the week he puts up.

Exactly. The Robert Tanya thing. Like a couple. a couple years ago when he scored like 10 touchdowns. So I actually looked this up. In last six weeks, there's like five or six players to have scored five touchdowns, like the league lead for touchdowns, receptions over the last

like six weeks. It's like Devante Adams, Christian Watson, and then Joanne Johnson and Cole Komet. There's one other guy. I can't remember off the top of my head. But yeah, it's probably not going to continue, but you got to keep riding it until it stops anyway.

Yeah. You leave them on the, On waivers, he's going to score. You pick him up, he won't. It's just, you know, that's the stuff. That's the way of, that's the way it goes. But no, that's the top of freedom of me. Foster, Roe, Logan, Thomas, Juan Johnson.

And then, yeah, see what Tray McRide does. I also want to shout out to you for the Saints has played more quarterback recently. Throne it out there. Last week. Playing more quarterback. Keep them in mind. Quarterbacks, I'm not going to lie.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We have a showdown time for Foster. Oh, yeah, for Foster. Oh, yeah, we do. How dare you. We didn't even do it for wide receiver. All right, D.K., you've got to find a question. It is the Foster Moreau.

Great name. Showdown time. All right. This is coming from our buddy Edmund Porras from fantasy points. He's like my go-to guy for injuries and everything, injury analysis. He's sending in a question,

how many instances were skill players, quarterback, running back, tight-end, wide receiver listed on the injury report in 2021, i.e. each time Aaron Rogers was listed with a toe injury counts. So he was listed with toe injury. Wait. That counts as one. Week five. That counts as another. Okay. So to be clear, if you're listed in the injury report Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Sunday, like that's just one, like the week of one, right? I believe so, yes. Got it. It's per week, not per day. Right. Okay. Wait, is it skill players? Skill players and quarterbacks. Okay. So just a fantasy players.

So quarterback's, running backs, tight ends, receivers. The fact that he tracks this is incredible, by the way. Ready? Stop doing math. Wait. I got to reopen my, no, I got to reopen my texts. I see my calculator. All right, I'm ready.

His little fingers pitter pattering away. All right. Three, two, one, sand. Ooh. Okay, Craig gets 4,00035, high-fitz guests 5,000. The answer, 1,967. Wow. Way lower than I thought.

Wow. So Craig wins. Look at me, 2 and 0 today. Suck it. All right. You get Foster Morrow. So does that mean I get Logan Thomas? If you want him.

Yeah, fine. You don't want Dulcich? Sure, I'll take Dulc. I thought you took Tulsa. We should probably keep track of this. My God. I took John Johnson. I'll take Dulshitch.

Dull, dull, dull, dull shit. Dullsitch. Dullsitch. I'll take Greg. Other Craig. Quarterbacks. Honestly, streaming quarterbacks, like, no one's on by. Yeah.

I kind of feel like answers probably on your roster. The only question is like Justin Fields is a shoulder injury. It's like if Justin Fields doesn't hurt but if you have Fields I feel like you have another option so like I don't know I kind of feel like this isn't necessarily the week to like be mixing

and matching a quarterback but if you have to I mean I don't know I feel like you probably have the answer do you guys know who the backup quarterback is for the Bears? I just assume it's Chase Daniel even though I know for factors

I'm in Chargers it's Trevor Simeon yeah Trevor does he still have a mullet that's what I want to know so look out for the that.

Defenses, actually it's a really good week to stream. Dolphins are playing Houston. Dolphins are coming off a

buy play Houston. I think that's pretty incredible. The Colts are playing the Steelers. I think a lot of people drop the Colts defense

because they were playing the Eagles, but like, dude, can he pick it? What? What are you saying? What about him?

No turnovers this week. I know. He's due. He's due. He's improving. And that's, that's, I, I love that when it's like regression.

You can't actually say it's due, even though people, I won't even get into that. He's due for an interception. It's fair. Also, Steelers versus the Colts, screw it. Steelers got their good players yet. T.J. Watt's back. T.J. Watt is somehow underrated.

T.C.W.T.W.T.W. That interception he had. Can we talk about that for a minute? What the fuck was that? That's the best catch of the year. He just, but he did that in week one, too. He, like, just bad at it. I've never seen someone back down a pass. That was just ridiculous. But he just batted down a pass and brings it in like a receiver.

And remember I was saying Derek Henry, the most impressive active streak, just four straight games, two hundred yards against one thing. If TJ Watt does that again to Joe Burrow the next time they play, just keeps batting down a pass and picking it. It's incredible. Burrow has eight picks this year. Six are against the Steelers. Dude, give me the Steelers defense now that they have Minka and they have T.J. Watt back.

Give me against the cults. We're all like, oh, the Colts are fun. Matt Ryan still had the most picks in the NFL, like when he got benched. Like, who care? Give me the Steelers defense. It's sick. And also give me the Seahawks defense against the Raiders. The Raiders' offense is awful.

The Seahawks-D was good. The Syricks are on by. Like, before this Bucks Germany game, which was weird, like they had double-ditch of fantasy points, like three out of the four weeks. So, like, I think there's actually a really good amount of really good ones. Also, the Jets' defense is only 46% rostered on Yahoo, and they're playing the Bears this week.

If Justin Fields doesn't play, the Jets first tremor simian. If the Jets defense is available, you literally need the Jets everywhere. The Jets defense is unreal, and they have a great schedule on the stretch, and they're also just one of the best defense at the NFL. You should add them. Figure out how to do it. Wow, yeah.

Fantasy playoffs, they play the lions, the jags, and the Seahawks. And then if you need like a deeper cut, the Vikings defense, which is definitely a galaxy brain because they just got rocked by the Cowboys, but they played the Jets in Week 13, the Zach Wilson and the Colson in week 15 and the Giants in Week 16. So like pretty anemic if none of these other defenses are available. All right. You want to do some emails? Yeah.

Let's do it. All right. This is from Cody. Cody. Sign from the gods. I looked at my lineup this week and I realized that my three starting running are Elijah Mitchell, Isaiah Pacheco, and Ezekiel Elliott. Elijah, Isaiah, and Ezekiel were all prophets.

Oh, biblical. I'm three and seven. I need to win out. I think he won this week. Is this a sign from the fantasy gods and who are the other players I should trade for and have like a total, like, God, religious subservient? And I was like, you have to get a Monra, right? St. Brown for the Lions.

You got to trade for a Monra. Because you got to get all your religion. Different religion, but that's fine. Yeah. Christian Watson? I don't know. I mean, get that covered. You're calling Christian.

I like that. That's good. Gabe, Dave, because Gabriel was the Archangel who visited Mary. Okay. So that just seems well-rounded, right? Craig. Okay.

Sure, why not? Keep going. Divine intervention. Who knows? Just wanted to throw it out there. That's funny. Thank you, Cody. Got an email from Blake.

Blake. Lake. How advertising works. He says, I am, he says, I'm the director of data strategy for a digital marketing agency. I was listening to all you guys complain and your incoherent ramblings on why streaming ads keep repeating. And he says, first, he gets right about the budget.

Basically, there's still much higher budgets for commercials unlike the- That's why the commercials suck. Yeah. He says, as for the ads, appearing over and over again when you stream, because you guys know what I'm talking about. Like, it always is the same one. Yeah.

Blake says that's intentional because streaming spots are cheaper to buy and they're more targeted because your streaming service is way more information about your habits than a cable company does, and massive companies deliberately buy as much ad inventory as possible during high attention programming like live sports. So rather than produce multiple ads, they just run the same ad multiple time, which is cheaper and increases recall of the ad and the brand and is proven to have a net positive impact

of consumer behavior. So is it wildly annoying? Yes, but it works in our dumb lizard. It's like how they repeat the phone number like seven times in a commercial. So you like remember it or put it in a jingle. I think the jingle is the key to advertising, and we've gotten away from it. There's not enough jingles anymore.

If you just grade commercials on... Craig wants more jingles. But he's right. If you just grade commercials on like the only two things that matter. Nationwide is on your side. Yeah. Dude, there's so many fucking random-ass companies, like, call J.G. Wentworth, 877 Cash Now.

I was going to say, that's the best commercial of the 21st century, because the only amount is, do you know the company? Like, do you remember it? And that... Can we talk about how Craig Westworth? was in a commercial with a jingle. In Nationwide. Do we not want to talk about that?

No, no, it's just a, it's just a shitty-ass commercial. It's a shitty streaming commercial, right? No, it aired on cable. No, that was on television. Yeah. Oh, big time. The big time were over here. It was on fucking Monday Night Football, boy.

Wow, that's actually really good. Didn't you go to your addition with your friend as solidarity for him, and then they gave the part to you? Yeah. That's tough. Are you guys still friends? We are still friends, and he's still in the acting game. So you should just go to more auditions with him.

But I'll wait. Back to Blake's email here. Isn't this just so depressing that this is where we are? Where it's like the data says that if you just spam the human brain enough, they might be more likely to buy your fucking product. It's like, oh, God, how awful was that? That's the world we live in now, where you're just getting spam the same thing over and over until you go insane and you can't stop thinking about direct TV.

I went down the, on that note of being spammed, I went to the supermarket the other day to get, like get a jump on Thanksgiving stuff. And I don't know, this has never happened to me before. You guys ever walked down the supermarket? It was the frozen aisle. But they had just restocked everything. So nothing was gone.

Like not a thing was gone. So like everything was like perfectly in place. And it was, I just got overwhelmed. I got like overstimulated, but it was more like, it was like I was dreaming because like every single thing was like fully stocked and perfectly placed and I don't know, it was so unnerving.

Are you one of those people who has to have like a really clean room or your desk has to be perfectly organized? You know me. What do you think? I think it's the opposite. No. Maybe that was the problem.

I'd never see so many things so well organized. It made you uncomfortable. Have you ever seen Hyphitz? Like he has like the extra keyboard attached to his computer. He's carried it around dropping it and shit. But like, okay, there, Mr. Everyday Cacadilla. Why don't you calm down there?

I should never, I should ever tell you anything, Heffitz. Ksadik. Ksa DK. Ksa DK. Oh, that's pretty good, actually. I like that. We're going to keep that. Heffitz, I just meant like when I've seen you in the office, like, you're cluttered.

It's a little chaos. That's all. A clean desk is a sign of a diseased mind. That's all we say. Okay. That makes sense for me, then. we got an incredible well,

just speaking of random things that are idiosyncrasies, someone followed up on Bluetooth and DK hates Bluetooth and they were like, while we're here, when did the whole charging your phone without plugging it in thing happen?

It's kind of like magic. Dylan Wright said, how could my phone charge through a case? Am I the only one that thinks this is preposterous? This is a good low-stakes conspiracy. Like what is the science by the electricity flowing from a brick in the wall through a cable and pad in my phone to a case?

Yeah, like, doesn't it work through the rubber ones, too? Like, how does that fucking work? Aren't cases just made now so they work that way? I don't know. Yeah, I guess it has been a bad case. I mean, look, does the science work out? Yes, I believe the science. I just have lost the thread on when science became magic.

I'm with Dylan here. This is preposterous. I'm a big fan of the pad. I like the charging pad. It's amazing. Craig, I only have a charging pad because my, like the plug-in to my phone just doesn't work anymore. Dude, a Tesla, there are some Teslas where like the entire center console is just a giant charging.

Just set your phone down anyway. Yes. Practically. The whole car is charging. Yeah. Soon your pocket will be able to charge a phone. It's like lined into your jeans. Yes, that will happen.

That's actually such a good idea. You're hooking up to the electromagnetic field of the earth and therefore charging your phone. Apple's gonna come out with pants in like a year. Apple pants. I'll just make fun of them and then I'll just like buy them six months after. As soon as they get the pants S, I'll just,

I always get the other one. All right, we got an email from Matt. We talked about where people are listening to our pods in like weird places. People are listening to them in the shower. Matt says,

I almost emailed you a couple weeks ago when you asked if anyone listened to your show in the shower. I think I have that beat now. This morning, by the way, your muffs if you have kids, listen to this. This morning.

I had a vasectomy. And I was allowed to bring my phone and wireless earbuds in the operating room. No Bluetooth, Bluetooth, not allowed. Matt says, I listened to your power ranking the players to trade for right now episode. Wait, what do you mean no Bluetooth? They're wireless earbuds.

What else? How was he listening? Oh, I read it as wired. Only Bluetooth. I read it wrong. I thought I said, wireless earbuds. So there you got Bluetooth.

I listened to your power ranking the players to trade for right now episode while the urologist literally performed the procedure. Oh, boy. So now if you'll excuse me, I have to go put some frozen peas on my junk. Do you think now he associates us with his penis? Well, it's not,

I don't think you're snip-snapping. Yeah, they're not stiff-snaping your penis. Sort of us in the balls. But the junk, you know? Right. Yeah, probably. Or does he have like PTSD now when he puts on our pod? Yeah, I think so.

Like if someone went up and kicked him in that nuts, it probably would like make him think of us. He hears like, welcome to the ring your face is a football show every time he gets kicked in the nuts. So like, it's like hyphins his voice when it cracks how does it work vasectomists

he's just on his phone while they're doing this that's a great question yeah that's like I feel like it's been a big thing lately is when you go into the doctor I mean I've only ever seen it done

with the dentist I've never I haven't had a vasectomy but when I go to the dentist now they allow you to like listen to stuff sometimes there's like TV you can like put headphones on and like watch TV they're really trying to distract you

in the medical space as much as possible which keep an eye it's good I think it's a good thing. Who knows what they're doing? If you're at the dentist, if you're at the dentist and you're listening to a pod, like, it takes your mind off of the grinding of your teeth or whatever it's happening. Like, I think it's great. And also for the doctor, from the doctor's point of view, like, if you suck at bedside manner, this is the fucking the best invention of all time. You don't have to talk to you. In society, we're getting too comfortable with the idea that you don't have to speak to anybody you don't want to speak to ever. It's like, you want to hop in an Uber? Well, you can click the silent modes. You don't talk to them. Well, you want to get a haircut? you don't have to talk to them. It's like, who are we talking to anymore? It's why people don't have social skills anymore because nobody has to fucking interact.

Well, it's like people at work wearing AirPods or whatever, that's fine. I don't know what to do when it's like someone in a service job wearing AirPods. Like, I had a waiter the other day who had AirPods in. Wow, that's a flex. And I'm just like, I don't know what to do about that. Maybe there's a game on and he could miss it.

I respect that. You're in literal the service industry and you're not listening. I love that. That is a flex right there. But maybe they'll listen to our podcast. This is definitely your muff time. Yesterday's show, I don't even know how to explain how we got into this, but basically something about Samajai P. Ryan having like three touchdowns for the Bengals,

it was there was a whole discussion on like whether that was like the fantasy cucking of Joe Mixen. And then D.K. and Craig had like an extended back and forth on like what? I don't even know. I'll let you guys describe it. What is cucking? I don't even know. What's the definition of a fantasy cuckold? Like, how does it apply to fantasy?

And then Craig and I were debating whether it's a pejorative when you call someone a cuck or not. Well, it definitely is getting into the idea that like, he's, well, in Craig's defense, like he's not kingshaming. He's not saying it's bad if you want to be a cuckolded because that's derived pleasure from me. That's not really my point. These people want to be cuckolded. So therefore it's good for them. This is literally the Rick and Morty with the parents come in and they're like, son, we're so happy and it peaceful in life. We've never been better.

We just, you know, this is what we do. I'm not worried about, like, offending the cuck-holding people. I'm just... No, I'm not saying that, yeah. In my experience, with just hearing the word... Be careful now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the way I heard the word, in my whole life, I don't know when the word cuck got really popular.

I feel like semi-reasonably. Anyway, I thought it was a person who derives pleasure from watching their partner have sex with somebody else. I know it's, like, also associated with, like, being like, a servile man and, like, being a beta and all that stuff. Soyboy beta cuck, as they said, it's always sunny. But I never understood how if you have Joe Mixin and he gets hurt and then Somagy Pryne scores your touchdowns and they're like, oh, that's a fantasy cucking.

And I don't understand that because if you have Joe Mixon, you're not happy about this. I got a text that 100% explains this whole phenomenon. And I think this works better than anything I've ever seen thrown out there. Can I just tell you? This is my, for my buddy Kyle. A cuckold and fantasy football would be trading your opponent, your best player, and then rooting for their success. Why would anyone do that?

Because they want to get cucked. That's the best example? Yes, 100%. It's like if you traded. Yes. Oh, they're playing against you. You're playing against you. Your best player.

And then rooting for their success. Because the fundamental issue with the fantasy cuckold is that it fundamentally requires you to be losing and no one in fantasy would ever want that. So it doesn't work. It requires you to lose points. That's why this works. Like you're trading your best player. for you're going to be losing

and you're going to enjoy it and you're going to root for it. Like you're already losing and you're like, screw it. I hope my guy goes off. Tim, well, we got an email from Tim who said this week. He said, this week I started Jamal Williams

and my opponent started Diagee Swift. And my friend, who had DeJ Swift, had to watch is Jamal Williams, you know, fuck the end zone three times. And then in the fourth quarter, games over, the cucked Dianja Swift was allowed to score. I just don't think that's a vulture to me.

I don't think that's a, that's cucking, cuckold, whatever the fuck. Is it cuck holding or cucking? I don't know. It's one's short for the other. The word cuck sounds so sharp that it sounds like such an inappropriate word, right? Yeah, it sounds like you shouldn't say this in polite company. And yet, if people are able to people with this, is it even bad?

But it's not like offensive, right? I don't know. Well, it's not nice. I don't know. Right. If you call somebody a cuck, that's an insult, definitely. Don't say that in like an interview, like a job interview. But the idea around

like a cuckold is not necessarily I don't know I'm getting too in the weeds Greg's very literal with all this stuff I don't know I just I thought the text that I got it was a perfect example of it That I mean that doesn't make sense

I just have never understood because I always thought Just always I always thought oh a cuck is a guy who likes watching his wife get fucked And so when everyone in fantasy was like oh that's a fantasy cuck cucking I can't say it I never understood it because it's why would anyone like watching their player they gave away do well? Or why would anybody like watching their player get vultured? I never understood it. Well, there's some people just like that.

Well, no, it's not, it's not, no, but you know what? How do you know, Craig? No, it's not trading it to your opponent because you're just watching. So it's like if your team's out of it, you trade your best player goes to someone else who's in it. And then they go on and they like win the championship and you're rooting for that guy. Yeah, that's not bad. That's what I thought D.K. was going to say. It's like if you traded away Justin Jefferson and your team wasn't very good,

and then Justin Jefferson just had an incredible playoff run, and you enjoyed it. Yeah. I think that's, yeah, I think that's right. Rather than being, like, embittered, you're actually, you're okay with it, and you're perhaps titillated. What a word choice. Well done. So.

All right, let's get out of here before we get fired. Yeah. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you to Jesse for producing what is... Good luck with this one. Thank you, Lauren. Lauren.

Thank you, Dead Prez. All right. I thought you were going to try and come up with anything related to cucking. I also was waiting for that as well. Sometimes you try and, like, you know, associate the band with what we talked about. Right.

Do you have any ideas for what I could have done? No. When you stop eating the cascadillas, do you have like a withdrawal? Like, do you feel better? Is there like a withdrawal period? I do feel better probably. Maybe it's just a mental block.

You know, I heard this thing recently about shredded cheese, and I apologize in the advanced, D.K., if this ruins shredd cheese for you. Don't do it. Do it. But there's like a chemical sprayed on the cheese that basically keeps it from... Like a preservative?

Yes, it keeps it from like bunching up into one giant cheese ball, and it's not a healthy preservative or whatever chemical they spray on it, so you should always buy block cheese and then grate it yourself. It's a good idea. So what that means is because it preserves the cheese

and D.K.'s been eating in the cheese for 15 years that DK's insides are preserved forever. Right. Yeah, it's like drinking embalming fluid. Yeah. Yeah. Boom. DK., the next time I see you, I want a cassidia. I mean, yeah, it's nothing special, Craig. As I explained to Danny earlier, it's a tortilla with cheese and then another tortilla.

I know. But I want to test out some new ideas and options. I like to dip it in different sauces, too. Okay, that's good. That's the real secret. Hot sauce. I like to go with hot sauces. I like to go with barbecue sauces sometimes.

You know, sour cream sometimes. Depends. Quakamole? Did you do quack? Yeah. Glock's good. All right. All right.

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