The Ringer NFL Show - Waiver Wire Targets for Week 13
Episode Date: November 29, 2022We run through the injuries from Week 12 and offer up our must-add players for Week 13 with our favorite format: Showdown Time. (03:05) - RB Targets (15:29) - WR Targets (25:46) - TE Targets (37:30) -... QB & DEF Streamers Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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My name is Danny Hypatts.
I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Borobach.
We are going through our must-add players after week 12.
Here's how it works.
We each are going to pick our top player at each position.
And then if we pick the same guy, we're going to fight over them.
Trivia tiebreaker.
It's not complicated.
You'll figure it out.
Things to note for entering this week.
So there's, depending on your system, maybe you have one week left in the regular season for fantasy.
I feel like most people probably have two weeks left.
This week isn't that bad with buys.
It's just Cardinals and Panthers.
but next week is a catastrophe.
It's a bypocalypse.
There are six teams on buy
for the final week of the regular season
for most fan of people.
So you want to clinch this week
because next week it's a catastrophe.
Yeah.
Yeah, so just do your best
to not have to worry about next week,
but that's going to be terrible.
There's also some pretty good quarterbacks
in that group.
Well, at least fields anyway.
He's probably not going to play,
actually, never mind.
I was going to say,
it's actually the quarterbacks kind of suck.
But if you go to whatever platform you're on,
go on over and just,
see which of your players are on buy for week 14 because you want to know in advance.
So like if you don't need waivers, either you should be adding waivers for this week
or you should be adding waivers for the following week just to get ahead of the buy for next week
or just like stashing for the playoffs, whatever.
So we'll try to hit a bunch of options, whatever makes the most sense.
But this is crunch time.
Yeah.
So with all that said, we can start with running backs.
This is like, I don't know, every year, there's always running backs down the stretch that kind of win people
leagues randomly.
Like, I mean,
remember Justin Jackson
at like 30 points
of the playoffs last year?
Oh my gosh, yes.
Yeah, I mean,
even Rashad Penny technically last year.
There's a couple guys on this list
who I think could pop.
They all feel like long shots,
but it does feel like
maybe one of these players
that we picked today
could be the one to do it
and win your playoffs
or significantly help your team.
So obviously,
if these guys are available,
Isaiah Pacheco for the Chiefs,
Rashad White for the Bucks,
Gus Edwards for the Ravens,
we've been talking about
these guys for a while.
They all feel like
they're starting running backs now.
So hopefully those guys are probably available.
Those guys are probably rostered.
If they are available, go get them.
Otherwise, D.K.
Who is your number one running back you would add off of waivers after week 12?
The other guy that I'd add to that list is Smashe P. Ryan for the Bengals,
who is rostered in probably more leagues than not.
But he makes sense still in the concussion protocol as of Monday morning.
So if he cannot play again next week, that's another one to keep in mind.
but I had Edwards P. Ryan,
and then my next step, if he's still out there.
Oh, he's definitely still out there.
Zonovan Knight, Bam Knight for the Jets,
who 14 carries 69 yards.
Came out of no way in this guy.
Zonovan Knight.
This person is the most Madden user-generated name
I've ever seen, Zonovan Knight.
There was definitely some people who liked him
as a sleeper in the draft.
He's a rookie.
But I believe he went undrafted,
landed with the Jets.
He's obviously been buried on the depth chart there.
But I guess they just hate James Robinson.
James Robinson was a healthy scratch, you guys.
It's very interesting.
I mean, I don't know exactly what's going on there.
Maybe just the Achilles injuries catching up with him or whatever.
But Knight looked pretty solid.
14 carries three targets, three catches.
He was basically the early down guy for the Jets.
Michael Carter, it sounds like has a, well, he has an ankle injury.
We don't know how much time he's going to miss.
But I think until we know, you have to kind of assume Zonovan Knight is going to be the guy for the Jets going forward.
Obviously, he's going to mix in with Ty Johnson.
but he looks like the guy who's going to get the most volume.
And by the way, just like with Mike White under center,
this offense might actually be pretty good,
or at least serviceable.
So he would probably be at the top of my list
based on the fact that it seems like Michael Carter
could miss a couple weeks.
Yeah, I also picked Zonovan Night.
Are we going Bam night?
Are we going Zonovan?
Bam.
Where does Bam even come from?
It's his nickname.
But what does he go by?
Is it like how Sauce Gardner is like,
just call him sauce?
There are websites that refer to like True Media
has him as Bam. Yeah.
We'd have to talk to his mom,
Hyfitz, but I think he goes by Bam.
Yeah. So I think, I'm taking
Zonovan Knight as well. He played 18
of 22 early down snaps after Carter left,
and Ty Johnson's still just going to be the
guy they mix it on third downs. Anything's possible
in the Mike White offense. We've seen running back to
flourish with Mike White. They took off
last year, I think it was Ty Johnson.
Yeah, so
I'm going with Bam.
The rare guy who has a nickname
that's cool, but also as a first name
that's cool. It's usually one of the other.
You're like, Sequin doesn't have a nickname
because he doesn't need one. But Zonovan,
bam, either way. He's number one. So yeah,
I have that too. Barthonyi wants the trivia
to just be like how many people
have rostered Zonovan Knight
in fantasy, but we can do an actual
trivia question for the trivia tiebreaker. All right,
it is the... Bam, night.
Showdown time. Bam!
Bam! Bain! Bain! Okay.
This one is from Danny
in Washington, D.C.
Danny.
Wow.
This is from you.
Okay.
Yeah, I just wanted you guys to say, Danny.
I named this after, if you didn't listen to a Sunday show, there's this guy named
Cloice Box.
It's a whole thing.
It was really funny.
How many babies were named Cloice in 2021?
Oh my God.
So like total in the world?
No, in America.
Did you look this up?
Do you know the answer?
I wrote down my answer before I looked up the answer.
So I already know what I put down.
So I'm texting to you guys.
How many babies were named Clois in 2020?
People don't know.
We were talking about Josh Jacobs at three-odgards from scrimmage.
Only 11 people were done that.
And, like, one of them was Cloyce box.
We're like, who is Cloyce box?
Cloyce.
Good Lord.
It's close enough to Royce that I feel like there's going to be some people called that.
Remember how his twin brothers named Boyce?
What is it being close to Royce?
They have to do it.
Close in place.
They name it close by accident.
It's like a bunch of the pen.
I did a little spin on Royce, just a little, you know.
Yeah,
The name Baramy is only one letter away from Jeremy.
I don't think people are just naming kids Baramie.
Baramy.
Well, we're literally having this conversation for Zonovan,
which I assume is like a Z instead of Donovan.
This is one of those answers where I feel like,
I feel like I could say like seven and it could be correct
or I could say like a thousand.
Yeah, 700.
All right, well, type in your answers and text them.
God, I have no idea.
Okay, three, two, one, go.
If it said 500, Craig said 19, 19.
And I said 150.
Did you say 150, almost on the dot.
150.
Oh, my God, no, I did it wrong.
Oh, wait, it says there's 159 in the last 100 years.
That can't be right.
That's a bit different.
I looked it up for 2021.
I was trying to do this.
I'd seen the answer.
And it said 1880 to 2019, there were 159 total.
That can't be right.
I think we got to assume Craig won this one.
I think so.
There's no one's
naming their kid Cloice.
Ice, Coice and Boise.
Email, ringerface football
at gmail.com.
If you named your kid Cloyce.
If you've ever met a Cloyce.
All right, Craig, you get,
bam, bam.
What am I doing that from?
Is that like the Kenny Powers?
Bam!
What is that from?
No, it's a hangover.
The cop and the hangover.
Well, isn't it from stepbrothers, too,
with the, uh, what's his face with the Catalina Wine Mixer?
No, he says, he says, pal.
Oh, yeah.
Pow!
No, he's virtually the same mode.
It's the Rob Wrigal.
It's the Rob Wrigal, yes.
Anyway, Greg, you get Bam.
Damn.
Isn't it Emerald-A-Gossey?
The cook, doesn't he go, bam?
And he seasons his food?
I feel like there's probably a lot of people.
There's probably a lot of people with the Bam.
All right, so I get second since I'm next closest.
Heif has said 500.
I said 150.
Craig, you had a good option here because I don't think the options after Bam Night or all that
great. So coming out of last week,
Jeff Wilson, he left the game briefly, did return, and then they were blowing out,
the Texans so much that, like, they kind of went with their backups.
So Miles Gaskin is an option, but I don't know if he's actually going to get a ton of play
going forward if Jeff Wilson's okay.
Travis Eton for the Jags left the game.
It sounded like he hurt his foot. They were just like taking precautions, didn't put him
back in, but it sounds like he's planning on playing. It doesn't sound like it's a serious
injury. Otherwise, I would have said to Michael Hastie and or Darrell Henderson, who they
claimed off of waivers would be good options.
But again, we don't really know exactly how much time either those guys are going to go get next week.
Travis Hedon's going to play.
So it's kind of hard to play Jemichita.
Yeah.
And so, and then obviously CMC and Elijah Mitchell are both kind of banged up.
Mitchell sounds like he's going to miss like multiple weeks.
Christian McCaffrey is more just like they're going to manage his work a little bit because he's got some knee soreness or something.
Some of the teller intended maybe or something.
So again, there's not a lot of great options here.
I'm really kind of struggling to, like, pick a guy here.
Hyfitz, what do you think?
So I think if you could identify who the Niners running back would be,
who would replace Elijah Mitchell.
If I could you take 49ers running back X, I would like that guy.
The problem is who is that guy?
And we're recording this Monday, maybe it's been answered by now.
But basically, if whoever gets Elijah Mitchell's role,
that's super valuable because, first of all,
McCaffrey's not even getting all the goal line work,
like just goal line chances for the Niners.
that's really, really valuable.
Not to mention if McCaffrey does get his injury worse,
that's a terrible way to say it.
But if McAfree worsens his injury,
then suddenly you have like a top 15 player.
But who's that going to be?
So Jordan Mason was the guy who got a bunch of carries this week.
But I kind of feel like he's just a special teams player
and he happened to be active and they don't actually want to give Jordan Mason the job.
Terrian Davis Price, I actually think was the guy that the Niners and Kyle Shenhan
wanted to take this role
the first time Elijah Mitchell got hurt
in week one, but then
Tyrion Davis Price came in and he got 14 carries.
Then he sprained his ankle.
So then they had assigned to Evan Coleman.
So this is all a mystery.
It's like trying to predict
what Shanhan does is stupid.
If they activate Tevin Coleman,
obviously Coleman is the guy,
but even then, is he worth it?
That's the other thing.
I do think if they don't, though,
if they don't, though,
I think Tyrion Davis Price is the guy.
Like, Tyrion Davis Price is the guy
that I think could do it.
But overall, you're not playing any of these guys this week
because you don't know what's going to happen.
So it's more like you would just be kind of hoping
that they would have value later or basically handcuffed
and Krishman-Kaffrey.
So the Niners are a weird situation.
But then what else do you?
Do you go to the Rams?
You have Kyron Williams.
You're like, oh, you get the lead running back
and at a time share on the worst offense in the NFL
other than the Texans.
I'm feeling really good about my brutal.
I really, yeah.
We're talking ourselves in circles here.
I think you really just,
it's going to be a shot in the dark
and it's going to be to hold on your bench not to play this week.
And I guess I would probably go with Tyrion Davis Price
just because the potential upside there
in case Christian McCaffrey does get,
like, does aggravate his injury even more.
But again, we don't even know for sure if he'd be the guy.
So it's more just like a shot in dark.
I'll go with TDP, but don't feel great about it.
TDP, the famous TDP.
Also, you don't need to abbreviate anyone's name is Tyrion.
Like, that's so cool.
I didn't know real people were named Tyrion.
I thought it was just Game of Thrones.
Just call him Tyrion for now,
and his mononym.
So I,
yeah,
he should be in the mind.
There are more Tyrions or Cloises out there,
probably Tyrion,
yeah.
Well,
post-thrones,
definitely Tyrion.
Yeah.
I will say,
the other person is Jerich McKinnon
for the Chiefs,
who had a terrible game
and people are probably sick of,
but like Clyde,
Edward Salair is on
injured reserve for the Chiefs.
And Jared McKinnon didn't play
because the Chiefs were playing the Rams
and they were like 15-point favorites or whatever.
The money line on the Chiefs was like minus $25.
It was like,
you would have had to put $2,500,
down to win back 100.
That was the money line for the Chiefs.
So they were up the whole game.
But the Chiefs are playing the Bengals this week.
So if you're truly in a pinch, like, you know,
that could be a shootout.
Jack McKinning could get like five, six catches in that game.
The other guy you could throw out here is Ty Johnson for the Jets,
who is more of the 1B to Bam Knight likely.
But he does catch passes.
He's more of a pass catcher, I think, than.
And I believe it was him who exploded.
He who exploded with Mike White last year.
Yeah.
I think the thing that was interesting was Zonovan Mitchell
just kind of playing way more than
Michael, than Ty.
Sonovan Knight.
Sonovan Knight.
Yeah, sorry.
Bam Knight.
We can change this guy's name.
What did I?
Well, you said Mitchell.
I was thinking Donovan Mitchell, like, NBA, I don't know.
This had a call McNabb.
Anyway, point being, Ty Johnson's also probably pretty.
Like, I would rather have Ty Johnson than some of these fucking people.
I don't know.
It's a weird book.
That's the point.
Yeah.
So to recap, recap.
Yeah, Samajah Pryan, if he's out there, if he, if, if makes it, misses another week, he's a great start.
Gus Edwards, I think you can plug right into your lineup.
Bam Knight, I think you could probably plug into your lineup this week.
And then everyone else is like a speculative ad.
My real takeaway is I wish I had just cheated with the ployce thing.
I should have just like that I didn't know the answer.
Yeah, you blew your opportunity here.
Other people that stash, Chuba Hubbard, the Panthers are on by, but like you got 17 carries, Deonti Foreman's a little banged up.
And then they're coming out of the buy and they're playing the Seahawks in week 14.
And again, so many teams are on by that even if you don't need Chuba Hubbard,
if you look at your opponent, you could see maybe they have a bunch of running backs in by,
just taking a running back away from them would be good.
And if you want to stash Alex Madison,
if anything happens with Dalvin Cook,
Madison would probably be a top seven running back,
just because the Vikings are going to face like three of the worst six defenses
for the running game down the stretch.
So like, he's, Alex Madison's like this really valuable handcuff
that's probably like even extremely more valuable
just because they get to play the lions and stuff.
All right. Receivers?
Receivers.
I have the feeling that we all have the same guy here.
Well, maybe not.
I'm going with Zay Jones for the Jags.
Here's the bottom line.
He has a 32% target rate in the last three weeks.
10 targets last week, 14 targets this week.
That is all you can ask for on the waiver wire right there.
Plus, I think he's pretty good, honestly.
So did you guys have Zay Jones?
Would you take Zay Jones over Trailing Berks of the Titans?
I would right now.
Those are the two that I was stuck between.
I actually have Trail on Berks listed slightly ahead.
Going for the upside there?
Yeah, the volatility is what worries me.
Well, to play the Eagles next week,
who we just watched that game against the Packers.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think Berks is a better player, more dynamic.
They use him in more interesting ways.
But they're both actually really solid Y-Recever picks,
but I lean Berks.
Okay, I'm cool with that.
I mean, I love Berks, but yeah, I want Jones.
Hyphitz, what'd you do?
It's the scientific strategy
The Titans have with Derek Henry
just fumbling into the end zone for Berks to recover
like he's like a caddy or something.
That's just...
He was blocking his ass off down the field.
Got to hand it to him for that.
That is true.
Effort play.
See, you kid, that's what happens
when you give the extra effort.
Yeah, I'm gonna go with Berks.
So I'm surprised
I'm surprised you went to say Jones, but okay.
I mean, he had 14 targets.
Here's the difference.
Yeah, Zay Jones to me is probably a higher floor type
player where you're going to get the targets, you're going to get the target rate,
weekend and week out.
I think Trevor Lawrence is playing really, really well right now.
With Birx, I really love Berks.
Like, he was one of my favorite rookies coming in.
But I do think there's going to be week and week,
weekend, week out variability here where this is just an extremely run-heavy team.
He's still not playing a ton in non-11 personnel sets.
So, like, it kind of depends on their game plan.
If he's going to be playing a ton, like his snaps are going up week in week out.
But, like, he just-
I'm switching.
I want Zay Jones.
Well, also, you didn't even mention
the Jaguars play the lines.
They play the lines.
I'm switching.
I want Zay Jones.
What a week for the letter Z?
Yeah, wow.
That's definitely never happened before.
Zonovan and Z.
Z's there even a tight end?
He starts his name in Z.
There's no co-keefed at tight end.
If you put from Z.
I don't think there is.
All right.
Wait, what about the name?
Zach.
There's definitely some Zacks.
Oh, yeah.
I forgot about Zach.
Zach Gentry?
Is that it?
Steeler?
All right.
Yeah, he's a stealer.
All right.
So we got to the Zay Jones Showdowns.
time.
Sweet.
Hell yeah.
Another Zee.
It is the Zay Jones.
Showdown time.
There's a funny one, but then there's also one I kind of want to give you, too.
This is from Derek.
Derek.
In the movie Happy Gilmore, how many seconds elapsed in the movie until the first time they go to Happy's
Happy Place cut away?
Like, how many seconds into the movie did the show Happy's Happy Place where he's got the beer?
Oh, so like, okay.
How long it in the movie?
Odyssey, I'll take it a minute, so I'll just compare it.
Okay, good.
I was like seconds.
Seconds is a little ridiculous.
I think there's two happy place cutaways and then one happy place cutaway that turns dark.
I think.
Yeah, that's where shooter starts, like, make it out with Grandma and Kiss Mask.
Everyone's wearing black instead of white.
Yeah.
Like, sucking on her tongue.
He, like, hooks up with Julie Bowen and then hooks up with his mom.
So good.
All right, I got a number in mine.
I'm probably way off.
Texted to us.
All right.
Craig, you ready?
All right.
I'm ready.
Three, two, one, go.
Craig said 26 minutes, Dekis said 41.
It is an hour and six minutes into the movie.
No way.
Isn't that crazy?
It's kind of late.
Isn't the first one where he's like just getting way too frustrated on a tour
because shooters getting into his head?
And then I forget who tells him to go to his happy place.
Is it?
It's chubs?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Hour six.
DK, you went again. You get another Z for your connections.
I get Sherlon Burks and Craig. I'm very interested to see who you take now.
I think, like Elijah Moray is tantalizing. However, he did have two targets.
Yeah. This is a super boring pick, but the guy kind of delivers over and over. I think I might
go with DeAndre Carter on the Chargers, who has had 50 yards or a touchdown in three
of four games. I don't think Mike Williams is going to be back. They're playing the Raiders.
I considered Matt Collins, Devonte Parker, Odell Beckham, we don't know what's going on with
him.
Darius Slayton, I
included in the group
because on ESPN
he's under 40.
I don't want him.
I'm good on the Giants.
I don't need the Giants going
to Washington.
It's like,
I think I'll take
the guy that just,
again, my philosophy,
pick players with good
quarterbacks.
I'll take DeAndre Carter.
So you pick players
to good quarterbacks
and you're not going to
take Elijah Moore
with Mike White.
That's,
to be clear.
The best quarterback.
Yeah,
I'm going to DeAndre Carter.
He's really important
to the Chargers' offense.
It's like you watch him,
And every time it gets the ball, you're like, is this the only person with, like, actual juice in this offense other than Echler?
He's good.
Like, he's good.
He's just straight up good.
I can't believe it, but he's good.
I would roll with Elijah Moore.
You're right, that he's not playing enough that you feel good about it, but you're also like, this guy with –
Elijah Moore was basically a first round pick last year that everyone just had glowing things to say about, like, inside the Jets and also watching like he was just incredible.
And also was like literally the number one receiver, I think, in fantasy for like the month that Mike White was quarterback last year.
I know Garrett Wilson's there now, but I'm kind of like, kind of want to just bet on the –
talent in like a week and more time
with Mike White practicing. Did you see
what he said after the game? Oh, you wanted to kiss
the ball or something? The ball missed him.
It looks like the weirdest
the weirdest quote ever. Hold on. Let's see if I can find
it here. Can we play it?
No, I miss it. I was talking to her
yesterday. I was talking to the ball and I was just like
damn, like you already know
how I feel about you and I was kissing her
and I was telling her it's going to be soon. It's going to happen
soon. So, you know, it says,
you know, be patient. You know, it's going to come.
You know, it's going to come.
It's storm. You don't weather it's
on you become a storm, you know, so I'm just thankful, you know.
I can't thank God enough, man.
So the Paul responded.
Oh, yeah, she told me she loved me and she wanted to get back to it.
Other guy will throw out there, I mean, again, Matt Collins, boring.
Past receiver to the league, maybe.
I refuse.
I still refuse.
Why?
No reason.
DeKade just, like, irrationally.
Yeah.
Does hold more hatred in his heart than I thought.
No, it's not hatred.
It's literally just like embracing that I have a blind spot for a player.
he's like one of those guys
I refuse to ever...
Matt Collins has 530 receiving guards this year.
He's good, I'm sure he's good.
He's gonna have like 850 yards to end the season.
This is much more a bit than advice.
Let me put it that way.
How about that?
I just refuse to do it.
I just anything, I want a lot of charges and Raiders.
I feel like that game's gonna be 35 to 30, guaranteed.
Well, Matt Collins is, I don't know.
You watch the Raiders and you're like, wow,
Matt Collins is actually important with this team.
Isaiah McKenzie for the Bills is also like,
a guy is good in theory.
He's so boom-bust and honestly, I'm just afraid of it.
Like, I just, especially,
getting that guy that's like in theory good
and then you plug him
into your lineup and he gets two points. He's playing
the Patriots this week and he did
have the best game of his career against the Patriots
but they play against a bunch
of man and Isaiah McKin's better against man but it's like
they're playing on Thursday night football and
if you're going to plug someone in your lineup, aren't you
waiting usually for like Jamar Chase to be game time
decision and then you like I don't know. Committing
to Isaiah McKenzie on Thursday it's like are you really going to
do that. Probably not. I like Darius
Slateon more than all these guys. I'm surprised you guys aren't in
Slateon. They just have nobody else.
I'm aware. I've been watching. Stashes. James and Williams, the Lions is coming back soon so you could stash him on an interim reserve, however, the obvious one. Odell Beckham, this airplane thing.
Yeah. Bizarre story. It's hard to know what to make of it.
So basically, if you haven't seen this by now, the long, long story short is basically O'Dell Beckham's lawyer says, so he was on the plane and there's the police version, there's the airplane, the airline version, and his lawyer's version.
and something between they tried to wake him up
and he was like in and out of consciousness
so they returned to the gate
and kicked him off the plane.
Or his lawyer says he was asleep
with a blanket over his face
because he's really famous
and people do take pictures of him while he sleeps.
So he's sleeping with blanket over his face
wakes up and they're like, get off the plane, sir,
and he's like, why didn't you wake me up?
Who knows?
What's true?
However.
Doesn't sound like it's going to affect anything though,
He was flying to LA.
Chargers?
Well, then he just lived there.
I think the thing with Odell is it's like,
I don't know, you can stash him, but
no one knows how healthy he is.
Like all that the Cowboys are doing the Giants,
no one knows how healthy is.
No one's seen him run.
You know what I mean?
I'm kind of like, you can stash him,
but I feel like you're going to have to be plugging him into your lineup
and he's not signing with anyone this week.
So once he signs, you get up to practice,
I don't know.
It's like you know, plug him in for like the semifinals.
Probably not.
I kind of agree.
I think he has a lot of name value,
but in reality, I'm not sure.
what he's actually going to give you.
I agree.
Almost would rather
sash James to morning
for the Lions.
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Tight-Ns!
Buh!
I'm going to cut to it.
I'm just doing Foster Morrow for the Raiders.
Bang.
Fight me.
My Foster Morrow over Cole Komet pick paid off.
Yeah, I'm going with Foster Morrow also.
There's, like, not a lot else.
I've never needed to win a showdown time board.
This is the most disgusting group.
The stakes are high.
We always bitch about the tight end position.
Figuring out who I was going to take if Foster Morrow's gone is one of the worst experiences I've had during this podcast.
It's tough.
All right.
We have Zonovan, Zay, and Foster.
The best showdown time week for names we've ever had.
It is the Foster Morrow.
Showdown time.
Hands to the air, baby.
Woo!
All right.
It's from Jeff.
Jeff.
For those who don't know, D.K. admitted last week that he eats a cat.
cassidia every day for like 20 years.
Is Jeff's like to tell me I'm going to die early, is he?
Well, I mean, I think.
How many pounds of cheese?
How many tortillas is D.K.
He's eaten in 15 years?
Well, I'm just saying for people don't know,
DK literally was just like tortilla and like shredded cheese.
Like there's no, he didn't put anything in it.
Honestly, the weirdest part was him thinking that it was weird that we thought it was weird.
I didn't think it was weird that you thought was weird.
I think it's weird.
I should not be eating a cassidia every day.
Okay.
Listen, you be you, DK.
Don't let anybody tell you what to do.
I just have never gotten sick of it.
That's all.
Don't ever pick up Matt Collins and don't ever stop eating
Cassadier.
Thank you.
You should definitely do one of those things.
That should be your Twitter bio.
Never picking up Matt Collins.
Never hallows.
Hashtag never Hollins.
What was it?
What is that case of D.
D.K.
Cada or Kada.
Kada.
So Jeff writes,
Jeff writes,
in honor of D.
There we have a trivia question.
In pounds, how big is the U.S. government's cheese stockpile?
Oh, that's good.
What a phenomenal question.
Where do they keep it at Fort Knox?
I have so many questions about the U.S. government cheese stockpile.
So we got a guess, and then we'll learn into this.
I, man.
Is it in, where is the most cheese stored?
Wisconsin?
Are we talking pounds, tons?
Pounds.
What's the metric?
Pounds.
I'm ready.
I will text you guys to answer.
How many?
So essentially this question.
is how many pounds of cheese currently exists in America?
No, no, it's the U.S. government stockpile.
Like, they have a, I think what he's asking is there's like a, oh, maybe I misinterpreted.
I thought it was like, you know, they have like the oil reserve or whatever.
I thought this was like a government.
That's what I thought the question was.
Like, if we went to war tomorrow, like the government's just like, all right, guys, we got
cheese.
Yeah, don't worry.
Is that right?
We're rationing cheese in case of a famine or a world war?
I think we got like a seed bank.
Why when we have a cheese bank?
Interesting.
I mean, I could be completely wrong.
But I used the word stockpile.
That's not like,
stockpile's not like a market.
Man, there's like a Seth Rogen movie waiting to happen
where like the world runs out of food
and all we can eat is cheese or something like that.
There's something there.
Workshap in it.
Yeah.
I'm workshopping it.
I'm ready.
I'm ready.
So we're talking to pounds.
Pounds of cheese.
The U.S. government has stockpiled.
What a sentence.
Again, these questions are so impossible to answer.
All right, I got a number in mind.
Okay, whatever.
I don't know.
All right.
Three, two, one, go.
I said a million pounds.
Craig said 50,000 to get you said 100,000.
I feel like a stockpile of 100,000 pounds of cheese would not last very long.
I probably guess too low.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Yeah, we were all wrong, but you guys were more wrong.
That's a lot more.
Today, the growing stockpiles primarily owned by dairy companies and is stored by
in warehousing around the country.
U.S. cheese cold storage holdings totaled one and a half billion pounds as of April 2020.
That makes more sense.
I don't know if this is a government stockpile.
Yeah, see, I don't think so either.
That sounds like how much cheese companies that if there's like, if suddenly they couldn't
make any more cheese, they had extra.
But is it, is it cheese that the government is paying for the dairy companies to hold
on to?
Or is it just how much cheese every dairy company has combined?
Is it government-owned cheese by way of dairy companies?
Or is it just how much cheese is in America?
No, yo.
I think it is government.
Attempts have been made to get rid of the cheese stockpile.
Over the years, the government established federal food welfare programs
to encourage milk consumption in schools throughout the country.
Yet despite the best efforts to decrease the surplus,
America's cheese stockpile continues to grow.
What?
We got so much cheese.
That makes you sleep at night, I bet.
That's helpful.
Why are we spending money on this?
Whose idea was this?
I guess cheese lasts for a very long time.
It's easy to make.
It's cheap.
Why are we doing this?
This is stunning.
Oh, stunning.
Interestingly.
So it was a billion pounds?
Oh, no.
It's privately,
the U.S.
government does not...
So full circle.
Okay, so all that.
We just went full circle.
I don't know.
Do we know the answer?
What is the answer?
Dude, I don't know.
It's complicated, man.
It's cheese.
We're talking about a billion pounds of cheese ownership.
I feel like we didn't come to an answer here.
We did it because we have no idea how much cheese the government.
Wasn't the question the government stockpile?
Yes.
Yeah.
I'm feeling a lot better about my-
What was the answer that was given by whoever did this?
I forgot what the name was.
Jeff, what did Jeff say?
One and a half billion.
But the question was how we interpreted the word stockpile.
Is the word government in the question?
I would have guessed a much larger number had the question been framed as how much cheese
are dairy companies holding in America.
For what it's worth.
Same.
The stakes are too high for us to have so much ambiguity here.
Foster Moreau is on the line.
I can't do this Hunter Henry shit, all right?
I can't have Jordan Aitans.
I can't live like that.
This is a much more complicated question than I ever anticipated.
Not to derail this podcast even further,
but just seeing it on the old Twitter here,
the ankle injury for Michael Carter is considered not that serious.
He's day-to-day.
Does that change?
anything here. We still go with night.
Well, it seems like every other prospect that we're considering also has a
player ahead of them who might may or may not play. So,
I feel like the day-to-day thing is the biggest red herring, though.
I still take night because I think he's just better than James Robinson and the Jets
have a good offense now. Also, he was mixing in before Michael Carter got hurt.
What do you mean he's better than James Robinson? What happened? James Robinson
was really good this year.
What happened? He tore, no, he tore his Achilles and then he got hurt again early in the season.
He's dealing with an injury that they're not super totally disclosing.
I just love how you're already declaring.
Did you watch?
How many snaps did you like Zon of the Nathletwe?
I know.
I don't know.
I've watched James Robinson and he looks good sometimes.
Don't take my word for it.
Take the Jets.
James Robinson is a healthy scratch for this game.
Yeah, the Jets are a real good barometer for which players they play are being the best.
Oh my God.
That's kind of funny.
He's like, tush.
He's like, okay, a fair point.
I'm just saying, like, the Jaguars traded him away,
and the Jets don't even use them.
So what do we decide about the cheese thing?
Yeah, what's going on with the cheese discussion?
You're not going to like the answer, but, I mean, I got the million pounds.
So I kind of feel like...
Whatever.
All right.
We were misled, but it's fine.
Bamboozled.
Let us stray.
Run a buck.
At least I'm second.
Not great options.
Again, Craig, you mentioned him.
I'm just going to go with Hunter Henry, I guess.
Should have had that second TD.
Can we just talk about how the fact the NFL should
should, if it takes more than like 10 or 20 seconds
to review a play that is called a catch on the field,
it should not be overturned.
No, I have a firm belief of this.
It's not the time.
It's, you get three replays.
Because the rule is clear and obvious.
You should, if you have to see something really more than twice,
it's not clear and obvious.
You see it, oh yeah, and then you watch it again to confirm.
Yeah.
Sure, give them three.
If you need to watch any angle a fourth time,
it's not clear and obvious.
Yeah, if it's under a Microsoft.
go, nothing is a catch.
If you get the fourth time, no, it's over.
Well, no, I almost, this sounds like dumb,
but I almost actually want to give the refs
only three versions of each replay.
Yeah, I agree.
Actually, I very much agree.
And they can't make up their mind by them,
that's it.
People in my mentions this week,
when they were reviewing,
they spent like five minutes reviewing this TK.
Metcalf catch-no-catch thing.
And it's just absurd because, like,
if it takes you that long,
it shouldn't be overturned.
The thing that people were saying in my mentions
that I thought was interesting was,
I don't think this actually probably makes a lot of sense
because you want to get the thing right,
but they were saying you should only watch the play in full speed.
And if you can't overturn it,
then it's just don't overturn it.
No slow-mo, just full-speed.
I don't hate that.
That's a bad take.
It's kind of interesting.
Part of me is like it's a good take.
How do we start talking about this?
You want to get it right, but also like,
you know what's funny?
You know who's right most of the time?
Just like the fucking average football fan on the couch.
Get that guy and be like, did he catch it or did he not?
Not just that.
I have to see what bothers me.
The refs are good.
This is the thing.
The refs do a great job.
You ever watch stuff live and you're like,
oh, no way, that spot's right.
You watch the replay.
You're like, oh my God, that was like the perfect spot.
I can't believe they do that.
Yeah, somebody had a crazy catch this week.
And I think it was a Keenan Allen.
Somebody had a sideline catch and they like barely drag their toes and the ref caught it.
I was like, wow.
Dude, it happened at the Giants at Thanksgiving where there was something.
I'm like, he was touched down.
And then I was like, oh, my God, it wasn't.
Like, oh, that's actually kind of impressive.
Like, I'm not even mad.
I'm just impressed.
And yet the review process sucks, though.
Like, they're good in the moment.
No, but no, I have to say it.
But it's getting better.
No matter how bad it's been,
there is no argument that this is not the best year
for instant replay in like maybe 10 years.
Like, they have cut down.
The reason that one starts so long,
they used to all be that long.
I think we can still try and get better though.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah, but I'm just saying they're improving.
Anyway, how do we start talking about this?
Who did you take?
Hunter Henry got a touchdown overturn this weekend.
That was stupid.
So you're taking Henry.
I'm going to take Jordan Agnes, I guess.
You guys don't want Tyler Conklin?
Now that Mike White's resurrected.
Nah, Jordan Agens, you know?
60 yards, two of those last three games.
Touchdown last week?
Kyle Allen?
I'm kind of stunned you guys wouldn't take Tyler Conklin
now that Mike White is the quarterback for the Jets.
I had Concord on my list.
He had three targets last week.
Yeah.
Okay, but it was also raining.
And he still, they played really well.
This is where we are, though.
Like touchdown or?
Touchdown or you're fucked is basically what's going on with tight ends now.
I mean, yeah, but like, I don't know.
We don't need to argue about Jordan Aiken's versus Tyler Conflon.
I will say the other one I will throw out there.
It's fair.
There are two others I'll throw out there as lifelines.
Robert Tonin just because if Aaron Rogers doesn't play,
just kind of see what happens with Jordan Love?
I don't know.
And the other one, I will actually throw out Tyler Higbee,
who is owned in like 90% of leagues.
However, no catches, no targets, no points last week.
Those people tend to get dropped, honestly,
because he's done that like a couple times in last month.
I feel like if Tyler Higbee does get cut this week,
because I think a lot of people will cut him,
he had a knee injury,
and this whole game was,
I kind of think next week,
the Rams were playing the Seahawks.
Kind of like Tyler Higbee could be the focal point
of the Rams passing game next week.
It's not pretty,
but I probably would,
if Tyler Higbee had to cut,
I would take him over any of these guys
other than Foster Moreau,
even though he did nothing last week.
All right,
quarterback. This is not super fun.
So Deshawn Watson is back for the Browns this week.
Weirdly, he's making his first start against the Texans,
which is just kind of weird.
Just speaking for myself,
I have not recommended Sean Watson all year.
If he's available,
I'm not going to judge people who get him,
but I won't be adding him.
I'm not going to suggest adding him.
This is fantasy football.
It's supposed to be fun.
You're supposed to have a good time.
And I'm not going to have a good time,
yelling at my TV on Sunday,
like rooting for Deshawn Watson.
So I'm just not going to put myself in that position.
I don't really think it's, I don't know,
something about it feels like contrarian
to like the point of the game
to be rooting for Deshawn.
Also, he hasn't played a football game
at like 700 days,
so you might not even be good.
So, you know,
everyone can make up their own minds
if he's available.
Otherwise, I will say Trevor Lawrence,
who was amazing last week,
Trevor Lawrence playing the Lions.
If you need a quarterback this week,
that's probably the guy
that way I would target he's around.
Kenny Pickett versus the Falcons, Craig?
How would feel about Kenny Pickett?
The thing about the Falcons,
though, is they just like chew up
time of possession.
So I don't know.
That game's going to be boring and weird.
Honestly, the only teams I buy this week,
Panthers and Cardinals.
You don't need a quarterback.
If you have Kyler Murray,
you already have a back in quarterback.
They just missed the last two weeks.
So, like, I kind of don't think anyone needs one.
You're probably fine.
Defenses?
Man, go get the Seahawks.
Playing the Rams.
Yeah, I guess so.
The kids just made a face.
Bryce Perkins?
But playing against the Rams, you're correct.
The Rams are awful.
right now. But still, Seahawks, man, they've been struggling.
But yes, I think that's probably a good, a good recommendation.
McVeigh might play for the Rams fro.
Because he might have to. Seriously.
George is, because he, you know, got that award.
Better than Calvin Johnson or whatever. Exactly.
Better player. The Browns are also playing the Texans.
Brown's not a great defense.
And like, but Texans, Kyle Allen, no did you say more.
Good luck guarding Jordan Aiken's, but yeah.
And I will say, check out the Steelers play a Monday to football.
We're recording this before Monday, so maybe the Steelers are terrible, but like, I don't
know. And every game that T.J. Watt plays, I kind of feel like he's the best.
What a great game tonight. Matt Ryan versus Kenny Pickett.
It's too bad. We're missing it.
Wanted to do a couple other things when we're talking about, like, defense, just in terms of
stashing defenses ahead of time, if people drop the Chief's defense, because the Chiefs are
playing the Bengals this week, add the Chief's defense. Because the week after they play the Bengals,
they play the Broncos, and then the Texans. So like, get Kansas City, if they're available or anyone
cuts them.
Wow.
Titan similar.
And then also if you're like, want to think ahead ahead,
the Cardinals play Denver in week 15.
So like if you already think you're going to get like a first round by,
you're not playing to week 15 and you need a defense or something,
like the Cardinals, you probably do pretty good.
Quarterback wise, Kirk Cousins playing the Lions in week 14.
So if you want to get ahead for a quarterback and he's available to do that.
And then, yeah, Vikings defense is solid.
So start thinking a little bit ahead about next week because there are so many teams on bye for next week.
So check your team and look at the positions you do.
need for the week after next.
Looking ahead on defenses is an important
part of fantasy playoffs. It really can make a difference.
It's like a 10-point swing if you pick the right defense.
All right. Emails.
We were talking yesterday about superstitions.
I have weird superstitions I do as a fan,
and you guys thought it was weird. You got an email from Patty?
Patty. Patty.
Me and my dad love football, and sometimes
we find it difficult to find people who feel the same way
over here in the United Kingdom. My dad's friend,
David, God rest of soul, was a huge Patriots
fan, and the only American guy we knew
over here who liked the NFL as much as us.
David would come to our house every week,
watched the games on TV,
and he would always sit in the same spot on the couch,
his lucky spot.
He loved it so much that when we got rid of the couch,
he took the couch,
put it in his garage,
and would sit in it before he came to their game.
Anyway, David also had his lucky Tom Brady jersey,
and he refused to wash the Tom Brady jersey.
Every week that they went unbeaten in 2007.
Week before the Super Bowl,
his wife washes the jersey.
Wow.
Oh, no.
And then Patriots going to lose
that Danny's beloved dear giants.
David swore it was his wife's fault
that the Patriots lost the Super Bowl in 19 and O
and he refused to talk to his wife for three weeks.
Three weeks?
That's a little nuts.
She should have dumped his ass.
Wow.
This is great.
Dude, superstitions are funny.
It's lunacy, but also somehow makes you feel better?
I don't know.
How does this work?
If so many people in the world are doing
like these random stupid things,
everywhere. It's just the right
mixture. Do you think about that, Danny?
Yeah, that's why I do it.
Everyone has to do their part.
It's literally why I do all my weird stuff.
I vibe with all these.
Eddie says I have a weird superstition of fantasy football
where I have to watch my fantasy players play on TV.
Otherwise, I don't think they perform as well.
Which causes arguments with my wife
because we're running errands on Sunday morning
and if I'm not watching them, I think my players score less.
Sometimes I feel the opposite.
Every time I watch my players, I think they suck.
Every time I watch, they get hurt.
That's why I don't watch football.
Important news.
Just kidding.
I also wanted to shout out Ryan, who's a Ravens fan.
The year the Ravens won the Super Bowl,
he wears, you know, he would wear a jersey on game day, like, no matter what he's doing.
But if they played like a Monday or Thursday and he had to go to work,
he wore his jersey underneath his suit.
Oh, my.
That sounds super unfectorable.
I couldn't believe that.
sweaty.
Can you imagine
also those jerseys
like kind of not
they don't feel great.
It doesn't feel great on the skin.
Yeah,
it's definitely not like
they're also not the most
slimming like you really have to gym.
It's like wearing boxer like
a jersey is like the boxers of the upper half.
That's that's hard to tuck in.
Maybe just wear a Ravens tie maybe.
Also like if you're wearing a white shirt or even blue,
I feel like you could see the like the
purple jerseys out.
I don't know.
That's wild.
All right.
Most importantly, we have a follow-up with Mr. Widelik, the math teacher who assigned our-
How many farts have ever been farted as extra credit to his advanced math class.
The kids have submitted their work.
He has graded it.
Shout out to the winning team of Riley, Rose, and Bella.
The answer is the class basically came in between 20 and 50 quadrillion farts in human history.
Okay.
But if I want you guys to go, I have here, I send you guys the link.
It says fart stock.
And this is the link to their work.
And it just, first of all, I can't believe someone submitted to a math teacher.
It says fart proofs.
And the work that they did is incredible.
They've estimated, they answered Craig's question about like leaders of fart, methane, everything.
They got into diet.
I think the Stone Age diet, Paleolithic, made people gassier, more bloated.
So probably more farts than average.
Like incredible.
We actually assign high schoolers all this work.
This is incredible.
Wow.
So they had the Paleolithic diet made humans fart on average about 14 times a day.
That's interesting.
What other kind of power do we hold?
What else can we have them do?
The average lifespan at that time was 20 to 25 years.
Wow, we are living on borrow time right now, you guys.
Imagine Craig, and I just being like, man, well, any day, no.
D.K. is like the oldest person on the planet.
Geriatric.
I love the, they're talking about, shout out Bella, who wrote,
diet ranges in modern age for meat, potatoes, celery, cigarettes, Mediterranean, fast food.
This mix, kind of gassy.
So we're going to go with 20 farts per person a day.
Oh, man.
Wow.
Thank you so much to this teacher for assigning this.
And thank you to all the students who worked so hard on this.
This is unbelievable.
Yeah, shout out everybody.
You all did a great job.
Shout out Mr. Weidlick for believing that we would actually do this.
And I kind of can't believe you guys followed up.
So thank you.
The extra credit question is, how long did it take for you to figure out this problem
and while figuring it out how many farts were farted among the classroom?
Oh, yeah, that's the follow up.
How many farts were farted when figuring out this problem?
In your class every year, how many farts are farted in that class?
Factor in the one kid who just eats hot dogs every day for lunch.
You've got to find you have a double his numbers.
Yeah, just like anthropology, just study what everyone eats.
Wow.
I think we're going to tear people apart.
Probably.
The craziest part about reading this research is the lifespan of people back in the day.
Grim.
Grim stuff.
20 to 25 years, average.
In the Stone Age.
I like that they have the medieval times.
They think people were farting like 28 times a day because it was like more bread,
wheat, right?
They like doubled it.
Medieval times, average lifespan was 37 years.
Wow.
Maybe in 100,000 years they'll be looking back on right now.
They live to 75.
Oh, my God.
I know, right?
People think that in like the next generation, people will be literally be able to live forever just because of scientific advance.
I mean, that's quite the increase.
That's me.
I'm going to live forever.
I'll be playing fantasy level forever.
Think about the jumps in technology hyphen since you were a kid.
No, I agree with that.
I think people forget about life expectancy is it's, you know, among people who have died.
If the life expectancy is like 80, it's like that person was born like before like the polio vaccine.
Yeah.
Anyway,
This was a much more serious
and grim conversation
than I thought for the farts
for being farted,
extra credit assignment.
Yeah.
Do farts increase as you get older
they have to, right?
I feel like babies fart a lot.
Maybe it's a bell curve.
I think it's like a bell,
you go out the way you came in.
Yeah, right.
Benjamin Button style.
Exactly.
That doesn't really make sense.
But I do feel like when you're like
40 years old, you fart the,
well,
I don't know.
I don't really like thinking about this
anymore.
Don't you have a child?
Isn't like all you think about?
Farts per day, DK., you versus Calvin.
Oh, Calvin probably.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, D.K.'s just eating cheese cassidias all day.
But he's drinking milk like, like it's nobody's business.
Yeah.
I mean, he's not, to be clear, he drinks milk out of a cup.
He's not breastfeeding anymore.
Just to be clear.
He's not like Robin Aaron and game of person.
Yeah.
It's nine years old going to fourth grade, just been.
All right, well, that lovely image.
Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig.
Thank you to Mr. Widelik.
I think it's Widelik.
We're going with Widelik.
Thank you, Mr. Widelik's class
for doing all the extra credit.
I can't believe you guys did that.
That's honestly stunning.
Thank you, Jesse, for production help.
Thank you, Lauren.
Lauren.
Thank you, Pink Floyd.
Whoa.
Heavy hit her.
Yeah.
Have we never done that before?
I don't know.
I was trying to remember that just now.
I probably have.
I don't know why, but another brick in the wall
was like one of my most listens to songs
when I was like 12.
The song Comfortably Numb reminds me of like my 20s.
Really?
Yeah.
Because I would go to this bar every Monday for, I forget why.
But anyway, this guy did, oh, it was karaoke.
And this guy did the same song every single Monday.
Really?
The same guy did comfortably Numb every Monday.
Yeah, it was like his thing.
So we'd go watch and sometimes partake in karaoke every Monday night.
Atlantic Crossing in Seattle, if anyone's been there.
Was he good?
Yeah, he's good.
It was his thing. He nailed it.
That song is long, isn't it?
Yeah.
And there's, like, a lot of, like, instrumental.
What is he just waiting back and forth?
There's like uncomfortably long instrumentals in the middle of the song.
All right.
Shouts out that guy.
I've heard the rumor that they did Dark Side of the Moon with no, like, they were sober for the entirety of the album.
And I can't make confirm that.
Feels unlikely.
That's, well, that's why it's an interesting.
It's a fact.
All right, goodbye, everyone.
