The Ringer NFL Show - Waiver Wire Targets for Week 14

Episode Date: December 6, 2022

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We are going through our must-add players after week 13, aka for most people the last week of the fantasy football regular season. Ooh. It's also absolutely disgusting week for buys. It's just there's six teams that buy. This is all chaos. So dumb. Why are they doing this?

Why does Week 14 have six buys? I mean, Simmons was talking about this yesterday on his pie. Like there's two buys this week and six. Or sorry, how many are next week? Six teams? on by? What the hell? I don't know. Speaking of a Billspod, Sal did read all the teams on by. They are not

great teams. They're not super duper fantasy relevant, but a certain point six teams is relevant no matter who they are in fantasy football. Right. Yeah, they also, a lot of them are like mid, so it's Falcons, Bears, Packers, Colts, Saints, Washington. So honestly, like, basically, Justin Fields is like the only quarterback that's really bothering.

Right, right. But at the end of the day, it's still like, just the volume of like, Cordoril Patterson, David Montgomery, Aaron Jones, AJ Dylan, John Taylor, Alvin, Alvin, Brian Robinson, Tony Gibson, like, just that for every position. It's just like, okay, it's not many people left. So we're going to go through, and we're going to go position by position. We're going to pick our top running back, receiver, you know, you know the positions.

And if we all pick the same one, we can do a little trivia tiebreaker. You'll say it's not that complicated. We're also going to do our best to kind of, because I know there's really two groups of people here this week. It's people who need a win this week in week 14 to either like clinch a playoff spot or maybe you want to try to get a first-run buy or something. then there's people who have basically clinched a playoff spot and either have a buy or like can't maneuver up and actually week 14 doesn't matter if you at all

and you can just start prepping for week 15 already so we're going to try our both we're going to try our best to do both and help people who need immediacy but also boot 15 and maybe even some people who already have a buy and think of week 16 so we're going to try to do everything but for starters we're just going to focus initially on immediate help

Getting across the finish line. Yeah. For the, yeah, for the bipocalypse, make the playoffs, and then it's just, you're in the tournament.

So starting running back, DK, who's your number one waiver wire ad at running back for week 14, last week, the regular season. I'm going to go with the same guy we talked about last week.

Bam, Bam Knight for the Jets who still rostered under 40% of the time on ESPN. Amazingly. And to be clear, his name's Zonovan. Zonovan,

Bam Knight, Jets, running back. Bam will not come up. He looks really good today. or sorry on Sunday. He looked really good. He was explosive. Looks like a foundation type back.

He got the vast majority of the carries and looks, even though James Robinson was active this week. So that's good. And I guess obviously it does depend on what happens with Michael Carter, but I do believe he's shown enough that he's still going to be mixing in with this offense regardless of what happens with Michael Carter going forward. So, yeah, Bam night for me. I had him tops too.

Craig gave me shit last week because I said he was just looked better than James Robinson, but like he does. And even if Michael Carter comes back, What? It has nothing to do. It was like he played like four, he had like four carries last week, and you're like,

he looks better than James Robinson. I'm like, what are you basing that off? I'm like, his four carries, you're like already determining he's better than a player we've seen rush for a thousand yards

in a season? I meant at the current moment in time. Okay, sure. Yes. Yeah. All right. Anyway. Look,

I'm just saying, man. Do you have Zonovan Knight? I do. Okay. It's tough because Michael Carter, but also at the same time, when was Michael Carter rolled out or basically put doubtful last week?

Like Friday, pretty early. If Michael Carter plays, who's your backup? Mine was James Cook. Yes. Same. Okay. All right. Well, then we'll do a Zon of the Night showdown time?

Showdown time. Cool. Did we do this last week, too? This is back-to-back. Yeah, this is a back-to-back. Bam-Night. For Zon. Last week.

No, no, no, there's nothing better than Bam. Bam. Bam. All right. It is the Bam-Bam. Night. Showdown time. Woo.

Fire it up. Fire up the old turbines. This is from Brandon. Brandon. Let's go, Brandon. Sorry. Okay. It'd be really funny if Bill Simmons, his name was Brandon,

and every time Peter Schrager was on, he had to bite his tongue. Anyway. In honor of Craig the Cannibal Horlebeck. Oh, my God. We forgot to talk about this. Craig went on a ringer pod we have called the Hottest steak and just was like cannibalism should be back.

I'm a cannibal, Hobbes. I mean, that's reducing it down to a really simple line that wasn't exactly what I said. The name of the podcast was cannibalism. It should have been, I didn't title it, it should have been altruistic cannibalism, but it's okay. Basically, if you can check off being an organ donor

on your license, why can't just check off, you know, why can't people eat me? Donate your body to world hunger after death, that's all I'm saying. So on that note, Brandon asks, how many calories does an entire adult human male container? Good God. this is so morbid you ate a person

how many calories does like the average person have yeah an adult man the average adult man are we saying they're eating the entire body like this is getting

very disgusting so like yeah waste not uh we're talking to just like that's actually of course this actually won't help me at all but that's fine

are we including what are you going to like subtract the bones I know how many calories are in the skeleton are we including organs or just muscle. Waste not. Organs, for sure.

Yeah. I didn't turn it up hot dogs and everything. Yeah. What are you saying? Waste not? What is that? Waste not want not. Yeah.

Using the whole animal here. Okay. How does anyone know this answer? I don't know. I'm just typing something. I'm going to send it to you guys. Okay, hold on. Wait, the whole human body.

Good Lord. How many calories is in a state? We're texting each other, right? Here? Yeah. Good God. This is so gross. That's why I like to put this up top, you know,

just like draw everyone in immediately with, you know, no one's, you know, off put by this whatsoever. I tweeted as a joke when the cannibalism episode went up that I was in searching for a new job. And my soon-to-be uncle-in-law texted my soon-to-be mother-in-law thinking that I actually got fired. Sounds like a YP. It's a you problem.

All right, I'm ready to text. You guys? On the contrary, someone's actually said you're the MVP of that podcast. I'm the only one slinging hot takes these days on there. All right, three, two, one. Ooh. Okay. So Craig said 15,000.

Highfit said 40,000. I said 75,000. 15 is low. 15,000 is like a handful of meals. I don't know, folks. The answer we got here, we got about 130,000 calories. Okay.

Order of magnitude off, exactly. All right, Shadika, you get on of a night. Wow, Craig, so embarrassing that you got the question wrong about how many calories an entire human body is such a loser. just thought you would have researched the take. That's all. I mean, honestly, the whole eating thing's not even worth, like, the paperwork they'd have to do if it's just $8,000. Craig, it's almost like you just wanted to get a rise out of us. This proves my point that we should be donating our bodies to hunger, $130,000 per human.

Come on. $15,000 would have been like, well. He's doubling. You get $40,000. That was also three times too low. So, anyway, I get Bam Knight. And Hyvitz gets James Cook. The third one is. tough on here.

I'm also torn about Jordan Mason and then what's the deal with Kenny Walker, D.K., so Kenneth Walker, the Seahawks running back, hurt his foot. I just saw, so sprained foot and Pete Carroll's like, yeah, weird injury. Never seen this one before. This is like, how many times

this is going to happen to a Seahawk? I feel like over the last two years, they've had a bunch of really random weird injuries that know, like, football players. I read that he called it a jammed ankle and it's not a sprain. So in other words, the mechanism from what I understand was not like

the twist or like where your ankle goes sideways. It's like he jammed, it. Like a jammed finger? Yeah, it's like he like hit his foot on the ground too hard. And you can kind of see it in the replay. It's like a weird looking injury. It's a Marshawn Lynch injury right there. That really is. So I don't know

what it is. Basically it's like instead of being on the side of the ankle or high ankle, it's like internal. It's like I don't know. So anyways. So we have no idea if he's going to play and then we had Travis Homer was out, the other running back in Seattle. And then D.J. Dallas stepped in as the third stringer. And then he got her and they were on their fourth stringer Tony Jones. And the

DJ Dallas had a comeback in. I've never seen a player listed as doubtful in game and then return to the game. I know that was pretty straight. I think obviously it was because they had no one else and he was just like I can gut it out.

But apparently after the game, I think Carol was talking about how it might be a high ankle sprain. Yes. That's not good. I mean, to be honest, if anybody, if Kenneth Walker doesn't play,

I wouldn't want anybody else. I wouldn't want DJ Dallas or Travis Homer, even if they did play. I don't think it's worth it. They're going up against Carolina. Did you guys also see the report that came out today that

Rashad Penny might be available for the play? for the Seahawks? Yeah, Ian Furness mentioned that he ran into Penny in the tunnel, and he's like kind of close to coming back. I don't know if he's ready right now. I don't think he'd come back to come back to the Seahawks make the playoffs. That's pretty crazy.

So none of the Seahawks running backs for this week. I mean, yeah, if anybody, I thought this through, if anybody is worth picking up, would probably be Tony Jones. Because Homer was sick and he has a knee injury. that he's been dealing with. DJ Dallas, it sounds like a high ankle mechanism. And then Tony Jones would be like the only other guy that's healthy. Did you say high ankle mechanism?

That was what I was seeing on Twitter is that the actual injury looks like what happens when you get a high ankle spring. Sounds very smart. The mechanism, i.e., the way that the body moved. Okay. This is how all injury analysis works, If it's like, where have you been? No, I just don't know what mechanism. I just never heard that.

Mechanism, the way that it was moving. Okay. If I had to pick a third option here other than James Cook and Zonovan Mitchell. Yeah, there's Jordan Mason. I don't know. He got eight carries this week. They're playing the bucks next week. Maybe Chuba Hubbard. They were on by this week. And he had 17 carries last week. They're playing Seattle. I think just from a volume standpoint. He's like the only guy you could pick up other than Zonovan Knight and James Cook that could probably get you double digit touches. Maybe Tyler Al Jir, but they're on by next week. So I think I go to Chuba. Can we spend a minute? A slight minute talking about James Cook. Do you guys trust that this is actually real, like, what's going on? Because basically, the usage has kind of gone up and down for Cook, and it depends largely on, like, the game script, how much they're winning by, whether he gets time or not. And this last week, they used him a lot.

He had 14 carries plus six catches. 20 touches for him in this game, and that was compared to 13 for Singletary, and he only played one fewer snap than James Singletary. Or sorry, then Devin Singletary. So I'm just kind of curious if this is an indication, what's going to happen going forward or just like a one-off lip? Because I just don't really know if I trust the show.

I kind of don't. I don't know how I got to sign James Cook in this segment. I feel like we kind of just nodded along and I was like, I don't even know how that happened. Craig, you could just have James Cook. I don't even really want him. Well,

who are you? I like James Cook for the record. I'm just a little nervous about it. I kind of think I'd rather have Chuba Hubbard because Deonté Foreman was like, yeah, I can probably play this week. But I feel like coming, he's got two different injuries. He's got a ribs injury and a foot injury. I feel like as long as they rotate him in,

again, the Seahawks defense is so bad that Cam Acres just scored too tight. Like they can't stop the run. And I just feel like, how many carries, Dini from Chuba Hubbard for you to be like, yes, that's fine. That'll be my Mendoza line, which again, if you have,

we're making, doing that on purpose. The Danny Amendoza is the Amendoza, Mendoza Flex line. You can tell a good joke when you have to explain it. Well, no, we get a lot of emails every week. A lot of people. You guys are so dumb, it's the Mendoza line. It's a joke, Amendoza.

But I feel like, what? You only 10 carries. from Chuba Hubbard against the Seahawks to be like, yeah, let me roll the dice on that. That's fine. Yeah, there's some validity there. I so would, as a draft nerd, I'm going to go with James Cook. I would rather have James Cook just because of the upside. And the swing vote here is that I just like players on good teams.

Yeah. Bills have the Jets this week. So the point is all these are kind of like murky, but like they're all good, awful options, if that makes sense, if you have to plug in play. And like, also again, Jordan Mason, I know I kind of thought Tyrion Davis Price would be it for the 49ers last week. Nope, Jordan Mason. So, I mean, Godspeed, trying to figure out what Kyle Shannon will do.

But I tried. And then also, I just want to say Jerich McKinnon for the Chiefs is out there. And I kind of, like, he had a really good game. I feel like it's because the Bengals were up big time against the Chiefs. And I kind of don't really envision Eric McKinnon, though, getting a lot of work. I mean, the Chiefs are playing the Broncos this week, so I kind of don't envision McKininning being. And then they're playing Houston. Exactly.

So flip side, again, if you want to stash someone else, Alex Madison. I just feel like on the off-term. chance anything happens, Dalvin Cook. You could probably add in Zemir White if you, you know, Josh Jacobs has been kind of hampered with a, with a calf injury. And he's been like fake questionable on Sundays, but this one's on Thursday football.

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All right, wide-receiver. D-Rad, who's your number one wide-receiver ad after week 13? This is tough. This is very tough. I'm going to go with Michael Gallup at Calip. Let me ask you guys. Did you guys include him?

Because he's probably a little bit above the threshold we typically use. No, I did not include him. Okay. High Fitz, you're out on him too? He's above floating. No, we're not out on him. Okay, let me rephrase because I think if Gallup is out there, he'd probably be my first pick.

Under the rules to our game here, we'll take him out. I'm going to say Darius Layton for the Giants. Okay. I feel like I've said probably about six straight times. Yes, this is a great stat from Scott Barrett. Longest active streak of consecutive games with exactly 58 or more receiving yards. Darius Slaten's 6. Devonte Adams, 5.

Amun Ross St. Brown at 4. He's number 1. He has 58 plus yards in six straight games. 58 being a very specific, great number. But like the point is, he's the number one receiver. Yeah. The point is they don't really have anywhere else. He's been producing.

He's not like, I don't think he has very high ceiling, but he has a solid floor. 13, 9, 17, 11, 7, 12. Like he's just been kind of giving you that, again, the Amendoza line of production that you can kind of rely on. He plug it into your flex and kind of move on. He also, Slayton feels like a guy. He feels like he has like one 45-yard catch every game. Like he actually does make big plays. I know he dropped that important ball last week.

But, you know, he is like the other than Sequin, the most important offensive player in the Giants offense. Yeah, I actually do think he's a sealie too. Yeah, he's the number one receiver. If he's still out there, then yes, get Darius Sladen. All right. Showdown time. Dary Slayton. man darius slaten like has there ever been a player that we talked about more that is less

rostered than darius slayton we just been saying his name everything and yet he still never crosses that 40% threshold all right it is the darius slayton great name showdown time yeah no cannibal shit all right jesus this is from jacob jacob jacob the college football playoffs are here so that means only one thing checking in on the ringer fantasy football show's favorite college football team. Nuga. How many total points did the Shadanooga

Mox football program score this year? The mocks. Nuga. The Nugis. How many points? How many points have they scored this year?

Oh, God. Are they terrible? Probably. No, I think they're kind of good. Oh, are they? No, I have no idea. All right. I have a number.

Three, two, one. Okay. Craig said, 108. No faith. Craig. It gets a 250. 250.

I went high. High fits went right in the middle, 180. What's the answer? 320. Yeah. We're all doing. Oh, my God. Well, I thought after they lost, was it Cole Strange?

I thought it was all downhill. I know. It's tough to lose. Well, if they played 10 games, you're like saying they're worse than the Broncos' offense. I mean, I don't know how good Nuga is. I thought they were terrible. I thought that was the point. I thought the point of the, you know, sometimes the question is like, only if it's an extreme.

I thought they were having like a horrific season. That's why I went with. I also. just remember they played like Utah Tech and we were like, is that one of the colleges from accepted? Dude, they're seven and four. Third in the Southern Division. D.K., you're two and O today in Showdown time.

Hell yeah. Wow. You did say you were ready to go. All right. So, D.K. gets there to Slaten. Next, I'm taking Corey Davis for the Jets because, as Craig said yesterday, Corey Davis, good at fantasy, good of football. He's just good.

He also is out there. He's out there a lot. He ran a lot of routes. He's also out there in waivers. He's around. Mike White. 57 pass attempts. Love to see that.

Corey Davis is like a perfectly fine flex. You could throw him in and he will work. So Craig, who are you taking? God, it's slim pickings. I think I'm going to go with Nico Collins, who Brandon Cooks didn't play last week. Nico Collins had a touchdown. He's actually been pretty consistent.

The last four weeks, he's averaging like 10 points a game in fantasy. Like, you could do a lot worse than that. Targets last four games, 10, 9, 7, 10. Yeah. Well, Brandon Cooks is like not so quiet quitting on the Texans. Yeah, he fucking hates the Texans. So Nico Collins can at least, you know, scoop up that garbage time.

They actually play a lot of good matchups, a lot of teams that allow a lot of fantasy points to wide receivers in the next few weeks. So, you know, you can do worse than Nico Collins. I mean, it's volatile. It's like a dangerous game. But, yeah. This goes against Craig's good offenses and good quarterbacks rule. Slim pickings. Beggers can't be choosing here.

Six teams are on by, you've got to break some of your own rules. Like, man's got to have a code. There's not a lot of players that, like, Tom Brady's throwing to. they're sitting there on waivers that I can grab. What about DJ Shark? I had DJ Shark out there. He got the game ball this weekend. If you saw it,

because they played the Jags, and he's on the Lions now, and they gave him the game ball. He had like almost 100 yards. Lions are getting healthy. It's like James James, John Joe Swift is now healthy. It's like, I don't know how involved he is.

But like, again, if you want, if not good quarterback, I mean, the Lions offense has been scoring as much as almost like Kansas City. So, I mean, if you just want a guy who might do well, I mean, the Lions are playing the Vikings this week and like the Vikings pasty is,

again, almost lost in a game-winning, pass from Mike White to Braxton Barrios this week. So, sharks are fine dice roll. Mac Collins, but D.K. Hades. I refuse. I refuse. The Raiders play on Thursday night football. It always feel weird when your last spot flex guys in Thursdays football and you have to put

them in your like receiver spot. You should at least. And that shouldn't matter at all. And yet it bothers me. It looks weird. It does. Mack Collins, five catches for 35 yards on nine targets last week. Well, the Raiders have a weird thing going where every, like,

either Josh Jacobs or Devante Adams is 30 fantasy points each of the last like seven weeks and they've just been trading back being like top one or two at the position but I don't know I mean I think back on again you could do worse

none of this is exciting but like it's again nine targets like you know I think it's you could do a lot worse yeah and then if those guys are gone honestly I'll just throw out Isaiah McKenzie for the bills who I don't even like it's so boom or bust and even honestly also

Marquez Valde is gambling for the chiefs And this is just more, D.K. hates him to death. But it's more like, of all the guys left at that point. Again, this is like real, real, real doldrums. But if you're like one of those teams that has like seven players on Biden, you don't know how you're going to fill out a roster, you might as well roll with someone who. He dropped a touchdown this weekend, I think.

And I texted the our group chat that MVS fucking sucks. And you know that your friends are sick of you saying something when neither of you responded. He's like ignore me. I'm like, yeah, dude, we get it. You don't like him. I hate him to death. Well, you just have such firm opinions.

You have firm opinions that such random people. MVS, I actually like have very little emotion for him. But the fact that people keep trying to get me to add him, I'm just like, no. It's like the Matt Collins thing. I'm like, I'm never going to put this guy on my team. I don't want to ride that ride. Yeah, if you've already made, if you're to clinch the playoffs, I will say stashes, Alec Pierce for the Colts,

and then Jahan Dotson for Washington. They're both by this week, so obviously if you need to win this week, they're not as good, but, you know, Dotson was great at the beginning of the season, and then really did nothing till this week. It seemed like he was fully healthy

and crushed the Giants and, like, tied up the game. But now they're two weeks to prepare for the Giants again. And so, I don't know. The fact that he looked healthy last week, he'll just presumably get healthier over the buy, and hopefully doesn't break his hand on an ATV accident, like certain Giants, defensive captains.

do, but that's neither here nor there. But Dotsner, both are probably really good options if you need to flex. You ever been on an ATV? Great time. You know, it's so fun. There's this one of the guys, I don't know if you guys know, John Boy? Like a Yankees? Okay.

Yeah, yeah. He's a talking Yankees guy. They have a talking Giants guy named Bobby Skinner, I think. And he just, right after the Xavier McKinney, ATV accident happened, Bobby Skinner was like, look, as someone who's done some dumb shit on

ATVs, let me tell you. The only way to get hurt on an ATV is by doing dumb shit. So was he trying to, like, jump a car or something? Jump a bus? Well, Giod Ward, who's like one of their other random players that's been filling out and weirdly important for them, just the day before

posted Instagram of him doing a giant wheelie on like a ridge. Jesus Christ. That's cool, though. I hope it on Twitter. It was very cool. All right, tight ends. One of the weakest tight end streaming weeks I can ever remember.

And I don't say it. I don't know. I feel like this is hard for the course. This is every week. It's fucking Groundhog Day. Yeah. How many times we said Evan Ingram's name? He's once again in the mix.

You know what the difference is? I think that there were like five or six guys, but after those six, there was literally nobody. I mean, we reached the point where it's touchdown or bust more or less. Just pick a guy who you think is going to score a touchdown. Well, you know why? So the Packers are out, there's no Bob Tanya,

and Bears' rats is no Cole Komet. And then Saints, Jewan Johnson's hurt. But then you couldn't even like pretend with Taysam Hill, which is like my usual line for like, oh, well, all these guys suck. I might as well try for someone who maybe can be good. Logan Thomas for Washington's up.

It's just like all these guys are just like cooked. So, Dicke, I'm very curious who you went with. Greg Dulcich, my boy. Rookie, Greg Dulcich looks awesome out there. He's getting explosive plays down the field. Long, flowing, curly locks. Just like behind his helmet.

He looks kind of like Troy Paul Molo out there, but taller. in, you know, a different position. I don't know. Russell Wilson loves this guy. That's the only thing. Like, he loves passing it to that guy for whatever reason. 38% target rate this week, which you love to see at the time of position.

Of course, this is a low volume, low scoring offense. So that's the caveat. However, if they are ever going to throw the football, it will be next week when they play the Chiefs at home. There you go. So ideally, Russell Wilson can put together at least the most passing attempts of the season. and because they're going to get schlacked. All right, I had Dulcich, too. Same.

Showdown time? Greg Dulcich. It is the Greg Dulcich showdown time. Yeah. Rooking for this. D.K.'s really bad at, like, live math, so I'm going to pick one that you can't win. This is from Kaylin from Red Deer, Alberta. Kalin.

Kalin. This is what I'm hoping was a purely hypothetical question from my 11th grade physical education student who asked me today, I guess they were doing something with a tournament in gym class. And his student was like, if we put all eight billion people on Earth in a gladiator bracket and had them fight, how many fights would you need to win to become the champion of the world? So March Madness, gladiator bracket with all eight billion people, how many rounds are there? So March Madness, what, you need to go five and O? Just got to extrapolate that real quick. Six and O? Six and O, is it six?

I can't even get that right. 64, 32. two, 16, eight, yeah. Eight, four, one, yeah, six. I can't think of yourself. Oh, fuck, I hate these kind of questions. So, eight billion, four billion, two billion, one billion. Doing these kind of questions actually fills me with rage. I have no idea.

Okay. Three, two, one. Go. Oh, my God. Oh, Craig. Craig and Hypez guessed a thousand. Both said a thousand. I said 3,500.

So we'll have a runoff. Let's see what it is. And if D.K. wins, whatever. But if it's closer to you and I, Hypatitz, we'll have to answer a second question. The answer is so stupid. I don't even want to tell you. Is it 12?

What is it? The answer is 33. I'm so, because it's exponential, and I just, yes. In our defense, your brain is literally not wired to think exponentially. You know what the problem is about this entire exercise is my first thought was 100, and then my crippling fear of Hyphitz making fun of me

for being way off set in? and I was like, no, I no longer guess what I think the correct answer is. I guess what I think high fits and declares. Why do you care what I think? Because I'm afraid. I don't want to get ridiculed. I'm afraid. I get made fun of when I'm way off.

Like I like the calorie thing. Think about how many people we could eat if we did this gladiator tournament. I mean, I know. Think about that. Look, after round one, we'd have four billion dead people. That is so much. you could feed the next 4,000, 4 billion who lived. When you start to think about it, actually, I'm like, why do we get so high?

Because just saying that one thing right there. After one round, you have 4 billion people. Well, that's what I said. I was like 8 to 4 billion to 2 billion to one billion. Whatever. I fucking hate that. We're so dumb. All right.

So, DK. I guess. No, I'm just kidding. I lost. I lost. I'll take the way if you want to give it to. All right. Hi, Fitz.

I meant 35. We need a tiebreaker. Highfits and I. So dumb, but it's kind of a good question. It's from Seth. Seth. How many versions of Microsoft Windows have been released? I don't even know how that works.

Oh, my God. How long has Microsoft Windows been around since the mid-90s? All right, I'm type of one in. Hold on, hold on. Give me like two seconds to think about this. Ah, Hyphitz is going to make fun of me. Okay. Be your own man.

Who cares. Now I'll make fun of you for being afraid and me making fun of you. All right. Three, two, one. Oh, two, seven.

We're really similar. I was saying 40 years, however many a year. Yeah, same. I was like, 10 a year. They've been around for like 30 years. Watch it be like nine.

I feel like, what was the question? How many updates? Oh, my God. There's probably like a million patches or whatever. Yeah. What constitutes an update?

Yeah. Well, that's, no, it's a version like a new one. You have to buy. and I think that, because it's 22, and I think we confuse an update, an update to a version with avert. Like, we were thinking of it like Apple updating your software.

Right. Like five a year. It's actually one every two years. It's going to say, they can't pump that many out every year. Hell yeah, I got that dub. Suck it. Wow, that was also embarrassing.

This was a very inaccurate day by all of us. What is it not? I always wonder if the trivia convinces people that they shouldn't take our advice on anything. Okay, so that means I get Greg Dulcich Hyvitz gets next bit Oh, no, you can't get

Oh, no, you do get Craig Dulcich Oh yeah, I lost. Oh my God, I'm also dumb. So I get Dulcich, Hyvich, you get second pick and then DK goes. Cool. Okay, so there's three guys in between and Dek, I want to talk to this out with you.

So there's Tyler Conklin, not because he's done anything, but just because the Jets are an actual offense now and Tyler Conklin plays for them. There's Evan Engram, who again hasn't been doing well to last week, but like exists. This is more of a gut feel.

He's on an NFL roster. This is like a total gut feel and honestly probably stupid. And maybe you should take Dulcich Conklin and Evan Ingram before these guys are around. But part of me wants to take Hunter Henry for the Patriots, who I have literally avoided the entire season

because I think he's unpredictable. However, the Patriots play the Cardinals this week and the Cardinals have given up the most receiving yards to tight ends, and the Cardinals are giving up the most receiving touchdowns to tight ends. And with all of this, it's just touchdown dependent. And I'd rather, instead of chasing Evan Engram scoring a touchdown last week because they were playing the Lions, the Lions' defense is bad.

I'd kind of just rather say, I trust Bill Belichick's staff to identify that the team that can't guard tight ends, they should throw the ball to Hunter Henry in the end zone. Like, that's literally it. All this is a dice roll, and I'm like, let me just take the guy's, playing the worst tight end defense. So I'm going to go Hunter Henry. But that might be dumb.

I mean, that's fine. Yeah, I don't mind it. Yeah, the other guys I would throw out there, like you said, Evan Ingram, Chicaquo has been playing better for the Titans. He's had five targets since last week. I swear to God, does that the average 50 yards of catch? He's explosive.

Would you play him, though, even on his own team? Would you play him or like Austin Hooper? Right. Traylandberg is out for Tennessee next year. I just wanted to throw his name out there. I don't know if I necessarily would be plugging him into my lineup. Here's the guy that I would actually start, and I did start this guy in a couple of leagues this week.

Daniel Bellinger for the Giants, who it's not that exciting. He's a rookie. You know, obviously he didn't have a great game. He had seven points in PVR. But he's running a route on 80% of the team's drop back. So he's out there running a ton of routes,

which is always like the process we talk about here is like, you can't catch passes. You can't be consistent with, unless you're running a lot of routes. Would you take him over Conklin or Evan Engram, though, for Daniel Bellinger? I think him and Ingram, I would probably lean over Conklin.

Daniel Bellinger, like, exclusively catches five-yard bootlegs. That's all he does. It's true. Let's be clear, maybe he's better in PPR. If you're playing in standard league, you're fucked. I mean, also, the Giants play in the Eagles this week, which is, like, not ideal. Right. I think I have on my list to have an England second, so I'll take him.

But I think I just want to throw out those other guys, too, has potential options. Dulcich, Bellinger, Ingram, Hyfitz likes Conklin. I think Conklin is a solid one. He's another guy that's running a lot of routes. I don't think Hunter Henry's a bad pick, Hefitz. I mean, five targets a game, each of the last two games. Basically, we call this, instead of streaming, Titans, buffering, it's also, like, trawling.

Like, you're just scooping up the bottom of the ocean and seeing what you get. Yeah. And if Dolcich is first and he's gone, Conklin and Engram, like, they have more track record if not sucking. And so, honestly, they're safer to recommend. But if, like, my season's on the last, I'm like, let me just bet on Hunter Henry in this matchup. And the other people, if those people are gone, if you're like really down bad.

Noah fan for the Seahawks. Yeah, he's actually been coming along pretty well lately. I think Noah fan, actually an athletic tight end. Hooper of Trailer in Berks is out. You have no receivers to catch balls. It's like all stupers basically the number one. Honestly, if those guys are gone too, freaking Isaiah likely for the Ravens, because I swear to God, he's like, might as well be the number two receiver at this point.

and then what, Kate Otten for the Bucks like the Bucks haven't played on Monday to football so who knows but like that's the thing there's a cliff there's a cliff or like what's that scene

in Tom is a Tommy boy where's the one of Chris Farley he's like falling down the hill and he stops Black sheep black sheep yeah and he just falls again and he stops

like that's this What the hell was that all about he looks at the hill great scene you guys haven't seen I just know the video which I saw this

old strong little root it's a great scene That's a fucking great movie, by the way. You guys should watch it. I'm not just saying that as like an old person that gets mad that you guys haven't seen movies. It's actually very funny. D.K., what do you mean? I feel like I've seen more movies than you, D.K., I'm ready to go up against you.

You see, 100% have seen more movies than me. I would say I've seen way more movies in that time period than you have, clearly. I don't know about that. Okay, maybe that's true, but like anecdotally, it sure feels like it. Okay, sure. I keep bringing up movies that you haven't seen. That's the only thing I got going on. We haven't prepared lists.

The Brad Pitt movie lost Land of the Fall and where the fuck that's called Legends of the Fall. Land of the Fall. And now Black Sheet. Yeah. I'm just sitting here quietly. Name a movie that you've seen, Craig, and we'll see if I've seen it.

Okay. Should I just pick random 80s movies that we've been doing on the rewatch? It was Ronan. I was in the 90s. Oh, yeah. I see that. Who's in it? De Niro.

Nice. It's about like the car chase guys that are really good at getting getaway drivers or whatever. It's a pretty good movie. That's not bad. Enemy of the state. Yeah. Okay.

Man on Fire. Oh, yeah. Love that one. Oh, God. Look at us go. That's Denzo, right? Forgiveness is between you and God. I'm just the one who arranges the meeting.

Tony Scott is one of my favorite directors. There you go. He was awesome. I like how you just had that line locked and loaded. Man on Fire. I really did. I really did. The most incredible movies.

Tony Scott made some great movies. He really did. That line is so badass. Forgiveness is between you and God. I'm just here to schedule a meeting. It's so good. He says that it's Spanish, too. It was based partly on like a real story too.

It was on a book very vaguely, I think. Yeah. So that was like the conversation version of like we keep saying, what are things that like women would never do that men do? And it's just like, I've seen more movies than you. Name movies. This is like the viral tweet where it's like dudes just sit around naming players from the 1990s. Yo, people can't see this.

We weren't watching the video, but like, when you said, just name movies, I just leaned back in my chair and we just probably not to laugh. I was like, one, I'm the problem.

I'm the one who hasn't seen all the movies, and I'm definitely the one who makes me mad all the time. And why you can just go out at Craig? No idea. I have no idea that happened. Craig produces a movie podcast. Craig is a movie,

oh yeah. Love that movie. Yeah. Life Aquatics. Oh, my God. What's that line with the Portuguese? What does he say about shoving the, oh, he says,

we can get a Portuguese, we can get a horse to dance. It's just a matter of, voltage. I haven't thought of a movie that DK hasn't seen. I got to get there. Oh, we're still doing this. For the love of the game.

Don't know if I've seen that. Is that a baseball movie? Yeah. To be honest with me, Craig, I'm having a hard time remembering enemy of the state. I do know I've seen it, but I can't remember really the specifics of it. The plot twist is I know I could quote all of these movies.

I mean, I'm naming like very popular like action movies that like the huge movie stars that was enemy of the state with chris rock and like anthony hopkins no it's with that was bad company that was bad company which was better will smith i remember that i think it's good it's with will smith and um jean hackman jean hackman yeah yeah yeah that's a great that was really good and yeah no it's that's good but bad company's hilarious so i guess you you half got me there i kind of lied a little should i just keep naming movies until dk Hasn't seen one? Keep going.

I haven't seen for the love of the game. The color of money. It's a really important week for waivers. The color of money. I don't think I saw that one. Paul Newman, Tom Cruise. There you go. You got me.

Oh, is that the salad dressing guy? Yeah. Full simple. Love that. Do you guys want to talk about quarterbacks? Yeah. So, I'm glad we got through all that. You know, Lamar Jackson once unanimous NFL MVP is hurt.

That sucks. So, I don't know, we can keep talking about the movie. movies. But I think this is actually, it was fun. If you need a quarterback, I think Jared Goff playing the Vikings. He actually didn't have a great game last time we played the Vikings, but the Vikings again, almost gave up. I mean, Mike White, 300, however, you know, 60 yards, I know they were passing a lot. But Goffers, the Vikings, and the honesty to do, Tyler Huntley, who's the backup for Lamar, when Tyler Huntley has replaced Lamar, he's been fantastic, like fantasy-wise, in real life, kind of shaky, we'll see. He's raw. But he averages, like,

55 rushing yards a game whenever he plays. It's like that's almost what Lamar does. So like he had four touchdowns in one of his starts last year. So Tyler Huntley, Loki could be like a league winning or like like a game winning quarterback for you, a weak winning quarterback. But also has like a weirdly high floor because he just will probably rush for at least 40 yards.

Yeah. And then there's Mike White, can he pick it? But like, I don't know. Gough Huntley, I think one of those guys you're going to get. Tanahill is playing the Jags. Yeah, but like here's the thing. Of the teams on by, honestly,

the only person who needs a quarterback is Justin Fields. Aaron Rogers person, no one needs Rogers, and then Matt Ryan, Andy Dalton, Mariotta, I guess maybe someone has him. What about Lamar? Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. The only people need a quarterback is really Lamar, in which case I would go get Huntley or Goss.

So Tannahill, we can't include him? Would you have Tannahill or Mike White? Well, I don't know why we can't mention them. What if Mike White is not available? We just are stopping at two because there's two injured quarterbacks? No, I was curious your preference if Mike White can he pick him of Tannahom. I would probably go with Mike White.

I just threw him out there as an option I were sitting that, sorry I was just curious if you wanted Taniel's my number one choice of all time I was like oh Taniel's playing the Jags You know what? Name three movies Tanyhill's been better than Kenny Pickett like every week So I guess I would probably go with Tannale

All right, there we go 8mm. Is that what Tarantino shoots his movies on? No, I didn't see that one. It's with Nick Cage It's a fucked up movie. It's about a snobes enough film. Anyway, it was a rewatchable.

All right. Defense is, honestly, this is kind of crucial, like, if you need to stream because, again, if you're in a 12-team league, maybe 15 defenses as a roster,

and then, like, six are on by, so it's kind of slim-pickens. I will say this. Number one defense for me this week, if you're trying to factor in, like, win this week, but also going forward,

dude, the Chiefs are playing the Broncos. Yes, I had this round to. The Broncos are like a gilded offense. Like, they're just, I mean, Gilded, gilded. Snip, snap, whatever you want to call it.

Not only that, so you get the Chiefs. I do think the Chiefs got dropped a lot because they played the Bengals, but they put it in Denver. Yeah. I was going to say, the Chiefs are. Oh,

I thought the teacher called on me. Sorry. I was just said, the Chiefs, so they play the Broncos this week, and then they have the Texans for what would be the first week of the playoffs. Then the Seahawks,

which you probably don't want, and then they have Denver again. Love it. So, I mean, chiefs, I would prioritize the Chiefs. What about you, Craig? The Pittsburgh Steelers are 28% rostered in Yahoo. They play the likely

Lamar Jackson list Ravens at home this week. Next week, Sam Darnold. So, not bad. I love that. The Steelers are a really good one. And again, Huntley, it sounds like talking out of both sides of their mouth to recommend Huntley and the Steelers, but Huntley's good because, again, fantasy football, most kind of dumb.

The running's great. Tyler Huntley can turn the ball over three times and still have like 25 points in fantasy. Totally. That's a good one. Also, the Titans, playing the Jaguars this week, charges week 15, and then the Texans. So, like, You could get, I mean, the Jaguars, Titans' thieves is really good, and then the Jaguars up and down, but like they've been turning the ball over a lot. And then again, Titans playing the Texans and the semifinals, that's pretty juicy.

And then if those ones are gone, there's like, you know, it's not quite as tasty, but like the Bengals are playing the Browns. Sean Watson looked like he had not played football in 700 days, did not have an offensive touchdown last week. And the Bengals defense is very adaptive. So, like, I could totally see the Bengals having a great damn defense. And then the Thursday football game, the Rams Raiders, and pick your, pick, you, pick, you. whichever one. Stafford's out. John Walford's banged up,

like Rice Berkins. I mean, the Raiders' defense isn't good, but holy crap. And the flip side also, if you want the Rams against the Raiders on Thursday, it's not even terrible either.

So that's more or less the options I would go with this week. Yeah. Agreed. Beyond this week, if you're, this week doesn't matter for you and you just want to just give me a defense

for week 15, again, I would take the Chiefs because, I mean, week 15, she's playing Houston. Like,

that's an incredible, incredible matchup. as Craig said, Steelers versus Sam Darnold and the Panthers. That's also, like, T.J. Watt versus Sam Darnold is like wild. Vikings playing the cults. I mean, again, people, or hopefully people turn it off, but the cult's getting rocked by the Cowboys. Like, the Vikings defense isn't great, but like the cults are turnover machines. Loki Washington playing the Giants again.

I'm a little worried about like what the Giants offense can do when a team's just been studying them for two weeks. Packers played the Rams in week 15. Packers' defense hasn't scored a lot, but the Rams are just so inept. that I think that could be good. And then Cardinals play Denver. So I think there's a lot of options for week 15. So I'm sure one of those are available. I recommend adding multiple defenses in the playoffs.

I think if you know your lineup, if you know your roster, if you're comfortable with like a one spot reduced bench, I think it's worth picking and choosing to make sure that you optimize your defensive start in the playoffs because it actually makes a huge difference. And it's pretty easy to predict, especially nowadays.

It's hard to know which random Isaiah McKenzie-like receiver is going to go off, but it's much easier to predict Tennessee's defense performing well when they're playing the Texans, which they are in week 16. Stuff like that I think is really important and underrated in the playoffs. So bad companies that Chris Rock one where he's in the CIA, but head of state, the one where he's running the country. But like it was really good.

DK, I feel like you've seen this one, city slickers. Oh, yeah. Classic. This is a really good one. I've probably seen, there's multiple city slickers. Yeah. What's his name got an Oscar for? The old guy, which I thought was kind of weird.

Out of sight. You guys seen that one? That's a good movie. With Clooney? Yeah. That's like OG Soderberg. It's almost like a prequel to the oceans movies. J-Lo?

Dude, J-Lo was... She was the It Girl. I mean, when I... Still is. In the late 90s or whatever. Whenever that movie was made. Country Strong. Country Strong.

See that one? Is that about bull riding? What's that one about? It's about country music with Gwyneth Paltrow and Garrett Headland. What was the... What was the bull? writing one with the guy from 90210.1. That's what I pictured when you said,

Country Strong. It's a cult film, Country Strong. It was a famous rewatchables episode. Yeah, Liz Kelly hosted it. Ah, gotcha. So check that out. Check out dirty, sleazy, sleek, neo-noir November on the rewatchables,

which is what we just did. A lot of good movies. Thank you for everyone for bearing with us. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you, Jesse, for production help. Thank you to Chris Rock. Will Smith for all those movies. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Kenny Loggins.

I can't believe we just talked about Chris Rock and Will Smith back organically without even putting it together the Chris Rock Will Smith thing. What happened? That least slapped. You know, slap from this year. Craig went to the emancipation.

You went to the premiere? Was that? What was it? The emancipation premiere, yeah. Yeah. It's really good movie, actually. I liked it a lot. You know, who's funny is Draymond Green

is at the after party. And I was like, wow. We'll see you guys. Struck somebody this year. Famous for, yeah. Join the club. I actually went up to Draymond and said what's up. He was very nice.

Really? Yeah. I knew, I know Jackson's Saffone. He used to work at the ringer. He's Jarmond's podcast producer. I went to have basketball with him. So I went up and said that Jackson has a silky jumper to Draymond. He didn't know that.

Shout out of Jackson. Jackson does. He does. Good shot on that kid. It was so annoying to play pickup basketball the first time at the ringer. just like, oh, cool, everyone can shoot except me. Cool, cool, cool. Yeah, but you're great because you're like PJ Tucker.

You just, like, get low and dive at people's ankles. You guys seen the cable guy? Yeah, oh, a long time ago, but yeah. Take case I'm still on the movies. There's a seat in the cable guy when Jim Carrey plays basketball. He puts in, like, his mouth guard, and he just, like, fucking throws bows and, like, plays just in the paint, like, he jumps off a guy's back and that's.

That's Hyphins. That's how I picture Hyphids playing basketball. I've, it's like almost got fired one day. I thought, yeah, I thought I was doing, yeah, I almost got in the fight. I've always thought myself as like a Patrick Beverly and like a big baby Glenn Davis body. Yeah, which is like a terrible combo. That's very specific, yeah. D.K., you know it's a movie I can't believe you haven't seen because you have seen a lot of movies?

It's singles. The Cameron Crow movie set in Seattle, all about the grunge scene. Yeah. I can't believe that either. I don't know. But I need to watch that. That is, you were shocked when I said, no, I had seen it. It's really good.

I really like Cameron Filmm. In my defense, if I'm like, it's kind of like when Marshawn Latimore and Mike Evans both get ejected. And it's like, oh man, but it's like, dude, isn't Marshall and Latimore's job to take Mike Evans out of the game? It's like he did his job.

Like crushed it. And what was your job? To take out Micah Peters? I don't get it. No. Is your job to take out one of the employees in our pickup basketball game? I mean, we won the game.

I have no idea. We won. Oh, they weren't keeping score. Do you remember if we won or not in that specific game? Oh, yeah. Did we win? What was the score? I think that game was either to 11s or 15s.

I think it was the other team at 8. I don't remember if we had 15 or 18. That's unbelievable that you can remember that. How many basketball games have you played? Very little? Because I feel like I can't remember a single score of any basketball game I've ever played. I can't believe that you knew the score of that ring. That's pretty remarkable.

Well, no, honestly, most of your memories are just like, you know, failures. I remember shout out Jordan Liggins who hit four threes in my face in a game to 11. Yeah. So there were twos, but still it was like 8-0. So it was mostly your fault. And then he decided to take her out by diving at her knee. Solve the problem. Solve the problem.

I can't believe if I've never seen singles, though, so I have to follow that up. Fun story about singles. It's literally why the show Friends exists. Really? NBC went to Cameron Crow after Singles came out. It was like, can you turn this into a TV show? set in Seattle. And he said no,

because he thought the people of Seattle would hate it because it would seem like Cameron Crow is selling out and like commercializing this cool niche culture in America. So he said no.

And like eight months later, Friends comes out, set in New York about a bunch of people who hang out in coffee shops, which is literally the plot of singles. That's really interesting.

However, I have to shout out. The other thing that never could start with with friends is, dude, that show, it's Martin. like Martin is in many ways

kind of the there's some blueprint elements there for friends Martin was kind of friends before friends it started what like a couple years before Martin was 90s right 92 92 I never watched Martin good show

Matt Dylan was in singles Bill Pullman I just can't believe but TK's like name movies Craig name and act singles is the entire band of Pearl Jam all of Pearl Jam plays a band that Matt Dillon is in in singles.

Oh, wow. The funniest thing about D.K. Dewey, that was it's like, men do that all the time, but usually it's at least in like the second beer where I hear that. It was funny to hear that in like the middle of the afternoon. Name movies. I mean, I'm not going to lie. Like, I want to keep going. Like, we're going to end the podcast.

Oh, we do. Craig and I. We might pitch a whole new pod where it's just just name a movie. Name movies. I just shut down with D.K. No crap. Just go in and say, name a movie. There's this intro music, and then it's me.

And I go, American Jigolo? And you go, no. I go, oh, man, Richard Gier. I watched the first episode of the new show, American Jigolo, which is based on the movies, of course. I heard it was bad. Oh, did you? I liked the first episode. Sean and Bill didn't like it.

Is that because they have attachment to the movie? No, I think that's just like the way they, I don't know, like the rendition of it was not something that they enjoyed. Made gear into a sex symbol? Gears hot in that movie Yeah I would kill to look like gear He was like 30 in that movie He looked great

A kid Yeah You should be Goodbye Goodbye everyone