The Ringer NFL Show - Waiver Wire Targets for Week 2

Episode Date: September 13, 2022

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My name is Danny Huyipas. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Krollback. We are going through our must-add players after week one. That's right, baby. Trivia's back. Showdown time, baby. Showdown time. So here's how this works. We're going to go position by position and we're going to give out our top pick from the waiver wire for this week at that position. Top running backs, receivers, tight ends, all that jazz, quarterback, streaming defenses, everything.

No kickers. We can't help them. Just, you know, look to God. But we're going to do it like waivers where if all things, of us have the same pick. Well, only one of us gets them. Tough luck. So we'll be a little trivia tiebreaker. We'll see who gets them. And then we're going to give our picks. So we're trying to mimic your waivers process so that, you know, if you don't get your top guy, second, third, at each position, it's not that complicated. You'll get it. I promise. And it's

fun. It's a fun bit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, very fun bit. Before that, however, not so fun. Dallas Cowboys, aside from getting just rocked by the Buccaneers and Sunday night, adding injury to insult, end of the game. Dak Prescott hurts his right hand is throwing hand and he's going to have surgery on his right thumb he's going to miss six to eight weeks probably going to go on injured reserve a lot of questions here

I mean what are the Cowboys going to have to Cooper Rush quarterback to the trade for Jimmy Garoppolo a lot we'll find out in next few days we'll get to like replacing DAC in your lineup if you have a quarterback in a moment but right now it's going to start the other Cowboys affected by this let's just say they keep Cooper Rush DK how much does this crater

the stock of like CD land receiver Zik Elliott Tony Pollard if you have those dudes, what do you do right now? Well, despair. I don't know. Fetal position? Yeah. Nialism.

Cry a little. Remember that none of this matters and we'll soon be dust. I don't know. Like, yeah, it's definitely a tough situation for the cowboys because with the main draw, and like one of the big reasons we loved all those guys is that this is a good offense that runs a lot of plays, scores a lot of points. Scored the most points in the NFL last year. Yeah.

And with Dak Prescott out, for like the lion's share really of the fantasy regular season like eight, six to eight weeks, let's say it's eight weeks. That's eight out of 13 or 14 regular season. November. That's your Thanksgiving plans are coming up when he's back. And honestly, like,

you know, they did not look good even with DAC. There's a lot of question marks about their offensive line. There's a lot of question marks about their receiving core. I actually will take it back. There's no question marks left because we got all the answers. They're terrible. Right. You could spin them, You could spin zone this, though, if you're C.D. Lamb and his agent, because you could say now he has another year to excuse his mediocre play.

That's what I'm going to do, Craig. That's a good take. I'm spinning this. That's actually a good take. If you have C.D. Lamb, if you drafted him, you're out of this. Actually, Cididlam might suck. But it was the DAC injury. There's nothing you can do about it. So if anything, this is actually a positive. I just think it's so interesting that they have not really done anything at the backup quarterback position. Like, is Cooper Rush really the best that they could do? Can they Gardner Minchew?

Yeah. Train for the bar. No, that would never happen. Why? He's on the, it's in a division rivalry. But still, there's people out there you could get.

Josh Johnson, baby, he's getting signed. I don't know. He might be on another team already. Obviously, Jimmy with the Niners is the number one thing. I think that Tray Lance is looking terrible

in a monsoon. They're not giving up Jimmy now. No, they're not. It's too, it's like, we're holding on to Jimmy. We're just like,

as a rainstorm. And if he's terrible next week, we'll just have our exus. You can have Mason Rudolph, Dallas, if you'd like him. Oh, my God. They might.

You know? Sixth rounder. The realist argument, I feel like for Jimmy G is that I'm increasingly getting the point where I do actually wonder if Jerry Jones and the Joneses look at the Cowboys being the most watched television team and winning a Super Bowl are like equally important prizes in their eyes. And that's sometimes, like, I will say Jimmy and Dallas is like box office.

And I'm like, that might draw them in more than anything. I don't think it's going to happen, though. So I think it's going to be cool. Super Rush, probably terrible for everybody involved, and this is now really, if anything, an offense that you actually want to stream defenses against, honestly, over the next few weeks, more than anything. If you do have to act, though, you have to replace them. We won't do a trivia showdown time for this, but let's go through a few.

Who are the quarterbacks that you guys are looking to? Obviously, if, like, her cousins, Derek Carr, whoever's out there, you would take them. But assuming that those guys are gone, can we all agree that James Winston? Is he, like, the top option maybe that you would want? If available, yeah, I mean, I think the ownership or whatever on different platforms was a little bit wonky. But if he is available, I think he's definitely out there. The guy from last night that I will, I don't understand the question and I refuse to answer it. Carson Wentz.

Yep. I think he's out there. He's playing Detroit this week too. So there's like the next two months and then there's like this week. I actually think if, you know, Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr, I actually still like Trevor Lawrence, even though, you know, they didn't have the ball a lot, but I think they'll have the board more. but the guy that I would love if it wasn't such a bad matchup this week, Marcus Marioo.

Yeah, I put him too. I think the second most rush attempts of any quarterback, but they're playing the Rams this week. So I would not want to play Mario this week, but after that, it's like they get Seattle and then Cleveland. We're recording this on Monday, so we don't know how the Searx looked, but like that would be great

if you could find a stop gap. But yeah, Wence is brutal because the only thing worse than not picking up Wence than I'm having a solid season would be getting fooled by once having a good week one and then picking him up and him sucking for you, you know, like whack him all. I mean, dare I say Daniel Jones, if you're desperate,

they run a lot. Yeah. He was getting run a lot. They did naked bootlegs. They were not afraid to get Daniel Jones, like, tackled. No, he was easy. Every time he gets tackled, I'm like, oh, he just, he falls down like a sack of doorknobbs every time he gets tackled.

But it's a win-win for the giants. It looks extremely painful. It's, we run him a lot and the offense succeeds because he's a decent runner and it's creative play calling, or he gets injured, and we go 2-15, and then we get the first pick in the draft. All right.

So since it's kind of hard to look at a specific person's waiver wire, Trevor Lawrence or James Winston, both available. Someone is Dak, which are you taking? Trevor Lawrence. Probably Winston. Jags are playing the Colts this week.

Meanwhile, the Saints are playing the Buccaneers. Okay, Trevor. Yeah. Yep. James or Wentz? Wentz and Washington are playing the Lions. James playing the bucks. I mean, this thing.

Wentz. Yeah. Yeah. Stream Wentz. All right. We hope that helps you. And then honestly, I think Marioo could be really good.

Like, not really good. So I'd let me take that back. He'd be fine. Yeah. Yeah. He's the don't watch him play this guy this year. He's the Mitcher Trubisky.

Don't watch him. I don't know. He's kind of fun to watch, I think. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's true.

He like, he's actually way faster than I remember, too. He doesn't seem like in constant, you know, he doesn't have like a constant threat of just like falling down like Carson Wentz does or something like that. You can watch him play. Trubisky just always looked confused, didn't me?

Trubisky is like if Ben Rothesberger was bad. Like, he plays the same way. He's just not good. Yeah, I don't add Trubisky, but I do think Mario out with the running can be really good. Okay, so there's your little plan for DAC if you need to replace him. Let's get to running back. Obviously, this is like, this is, let's agree with like,

this is kind of where you win championships. Like, you know what I mean? For all the cool, it's nice to draft a guy in the first round. getting Justin Jackson last year and just getting 30 points in week 15 like that's how you win. And honestly, once again, kind of fertile ground this week one.

There's like a lot. Like there's a lot of available guys. And this is why we say like the RB2 position on your fantasy roster is not super important because you can fill that in during the season. So to remind people how this works, we're going to go through all our running backs

and we're going to give our top pick. And if we have the same guy, we're going to fight over them with trivia. However, we're going like 40-ish percent on ESPN Yahoo. We're trying to figure out a good middle ground of people in shallow leagues, deep leagues. So before we do this,

we're going to agree on if these guys are available, forget everyone after this, pick these guys up. Number one, Daryl Henderson, who is available in like only a third of Yahoo leagues, but like half of the SPN leagues. If Daryl Henderson is available, we all agree, right? Pick up Daryl Henderson.

Like, no question. Yes. Yeah. He's the start. He didn't have to explain. He played 82% of snaps on week one. Just go figure that out. He basically, the only guy had more snaps for his team.

was Sequin and then Daryl Henderson pick him up. Two, James Robinson for the Jaguars. If he's out there, maybe people thought his Achilles injury. He was like a 1A option for Jacksonville. Go get James Robinson, right? Same page. Yep. And then number three, he's out of this flow first, but Jamal Williams for the Lions. He had two touchdowns,

so, you know, it's maybe not super reliable. He's getting all their red zone work, which is huge, obviously. Yeah, DeAndresoft looks really good, but Williams is still involved. He's getting early downwork and he's locked in as sort of like they're inside the five-yard line guy. So those guys are not in this exercise and we would probably take those three guys ahead of anyone who about to say. But with those said, your waiver wire, those guys are probably gone. So with that said, DK, who is your number one running back waiver wire target after week one?

This one was tough, but I'm going with Jeff Wilson of the 49ers. Yeah, me too. Which I guess is kind of predictable. But Elijah Mitchell suffered a knee injury in week one. It sounds, and as we speak literally as we were on the pod, Adam Schaefter tweeted that he's expected to miss about two months, about eight weeks with an knee injury. So Jeff Wilson becomes, I think, the de facto 49er starter. They're going to likely use a bit of a rotation here,

but obviously this is a team that could have a very good run game, like to run the ball a lot. Jeff Wilson's very experienced in the scheme. Shanahan seems to really like him, and I guess he's just the next man up, you know. I think this is, he has the best bet, having a lot of volume in this offense. It's only tradition that a Niners running back gets hurt in week one,

and then a new one supplants him to become fantasy relevant for the rest of the season. And there's nobody, I mean, the Niners, the other players, they cut Trace Ehrman, and they have an undrafted free agent, and they have their rookie, Terry and Davis Price. And then Jeff Wilson, who, when Eli Mitchell went down this week, I mean, Wilson played a ton. He played 29 of the 38 snaps in the second half. It was him, and it was Kyle Eusecheck, and I think that's what it will be. I'm sure they'll mix in Tyrion Davis Price, but, I mean, Wilson has 20 touch potential. Yeah, exactly.

Craig just said is key. Obviously, like, first of all, Debo Samuel's going to take carries from him in the red zone. That'll be knowing. Trey Lance might take carries from the red zone. That'll be annoying. But overall, starting running back for the Niners. And, like, obviously, Shannon always going to be, like, there's always a chance that another random running backs are plans them. Jeff Wilson himself has had a lot of injuries.

Every week, though, that Jeff Wilson's healthy, you can play him in the flex. And he, Shanan has long trusted Jeff Wilson as a goal lineback. Like, so obviously, Debo could supplant him there. for spots, but not flexible, but flexible, like a guy you need to throw in your flex. Jeff Wilson is every week that he's the starter. And they're playing Seattle next week. There you go.

All right. So here's my number one pick, too. So there's perfect. Three way. Three way. All right. Triple showdown. Craig, you got to do it.

That's right. This is our first showdown. Of the season. And I'm, you know what? I couldn't be more thrilled that it's for Jeff Wilson. We touted him all offseason. I'm honored. It is the Jeff Wilson Jr.

People forget that. Showdown time. God. It gets me every time. Do you think there's people who are listening for the first year and they're like, what is this show? I'd be stunned if there weren't.

Well, on that note, do we want to do a football trivetrivate question and then let the news know later? You want to do a weird one? Weird one. All right. I will say this.

So emails at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com If you want to send this trivia question. Put the answer in white text, put trivia in the subject line. And I will say this. We need like a number of some kind. It needs to be we can be wrong, but like in order.

So just make sure it's like a year, a date or whatever or like geography. It can be like what color was the building blah, blah, blah, because no one can get second if they guess the color wrong or third. Exactly. It can be creative. It can be like, where is this?

And if we're wrong, we can like Google math the miles. But like it needs to be like objective in how wrong we are. So with that said. got dozens and dozens of emails I sifted through and I read this one and I was like, I wish they were all like this. There are literally dozens of emails.

There are dozens of us, as Tobias Fionk would say. There are literally dozens. The rest of them, every time. This is from Mike in Chicago. Mike. Mike writes, simple question. How long was a billion seconds ago? Holy shit.

How long ago was a billion seconds ago? How long ago was a billion seconds? Are we going to guess in years? we should give a year. Oh, a year. Not how many years ago? I'm going to guess how many years ago. Oh, yes.

Okay, it's the same thing. Well, just so people can understand it in the same. I've got to think about this. A billion. Oh, my God. I'm not even going to try to do the map. Do we have to do the map? Wait, is it?

What is it? A billion seconds. A billion seconds ago. A billion seconds to go. There's how many minutes in a day? Yeah. How, how, how, how, How long is a billion seconds?

I don't think we can think too long. Yeah. Okay, I'll give my answer, a thousand years. I'm going to say more. I'm going to say... More? Yeah. I thought I was way over.

Okay. No, I'm going to say 10,000 years ago. Holy cow. Oh, my God. I was going to say 100 years. Yeah. I was to say 100 years. Let's do it.

10,000? We always underestimate how small or how big a billion is. Yeah. Yeah. The human mind is not capable of fiction. It's no, a billion. Okay. The answer is

31 years ago. Damn it. That totally makes sense because there's like 80,000 seconds in a day. I knew I was way over. Whatever. Shoot for the stars.

I saw Neil deGrasse Tyson TikTok here today and he was talking about a billion dollar bills. Oh no. This is what screwed me up. I thought he was talking about one billion dollar bills.

He was talking about Jeff Bezos's net worth which is obviously way more than a billion. He was talking about if you took all the single, like if you got his entire net worth and had it in a single dollar bills,

you could like go to the moon and back. You could like go around the world a million times, a dollar bills. It was like all these ridiculous numbers. So that's why I shot really high. Well, you know why I got that right? You know that? You ever heard that saying was like,

hey, you get 84,500 gifts every day. It's every second of every day that you're alive. And it was like, so I just know how many seconds are in a day. I generally try to stay off Instagram. Human beings aren't like designed or they should have no concept of what a billion is. Like there's just, why would we know what a billion is? Well, I get Jeff Wilson, that's why. So give me a concept of your second waiver claim.

Or, yeah, Dika, you were second. So you get the second thing. I shouldn't even get third. I should get like fifth. Yeah, you really should. I'm going to pick like two or three because I got running back problems. I'm going with Jalen Warren for the Steelers, who is the backup Steelers running back.

Naji Harris has a foot injury. As of right now, which is Monday morning or Monday afternoon. We don't really know the extent of the foot. injury that he had or ankle injury. It's not exactly clear what he injured. But it sounds like we're not quite out of the woods in terms of how severe it is. It could be a couple of games. It could be a little bit longer.

There was, I think Ian Rappaport mentioned it may be related to his Liss-Frank injury from earlier. And obviously, if it's a major List-Rank injury, that could be the entire season. There is indications that it's not a super serious injury. But if I'm going for a short-term option that I think I can start next week and get a lot of volume. Jalen Warren is my guy, so I'm going with that. Yeah, Jalen Warren got every snap that Nasha Harris did not get before he got hurt. And that was only three carriers for 70 yards, but ridiculous.

Like, regardless, yeah, this is, I don't think Jailen Warren has like the upside. It's not like James Connor replacing Levyon Bell. Like this is a bad offensive line on possibly just a terrible offense, but it's a huge opportunity every game that Naji's gone. Yeah. And since I get two, because Craig was so ridiculously far off. let's be clear. D.K. was also incredibly off, but because of my...

But you were an order of magnitude off his order of magnitude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to go with Rex Burkhead for the Texans, who, surprise, it's not actually Damien Pierce is the starter of the Texans, guys. Sorry, I hate to break it to you.

It was Rex Burkhead, who played 71% of snaps. He had a 19% target rate, so he's getting all the passing game work for the running backs. He had five catches for 30 yards. 14 carries for 40 yards. He played every snap in the two-minute drill

and all but one third down for this first game. So he got like all the important work in this offense. And I don't honestly think it's going to be like a long-term thing. This is if you have, if you have to fill a role for the next two or three weeks, maybe, because I do think at some point Damien Pierce is probably overtaken, but it's just not happening quite yet. It's not having as soon as we wanted it to. So he's, I think, rostered in about 13% of Yahoo Leagues,

and so he's out there. You can plug him in as a flex. I think that's a key point. There's always the difference between what you need. If you need someone to play for you, like, this week versus, like, I just want to pick up a high upside guy. If you don't want to, if you don't need to play this person now, I would not pick up Rex Burkhead.

But he's, like, going to be the running back version of the Mendoza line. Of, like, you can totally play him, and it's, like, disgusting. And it's not like you're going to thrive, but you'll survive. Right. But to be clear, this show, like, when we do this exercise, it's generally like aimed at guys you need for this coming week,

not for the long term. So what that said, Craig. God. You know, I guess... Just to be clear, you picked, the answer ended up

being in the 90s and you picked like the ancient Egypt for how long a billion seconds ago. Right. I'm the first guy to get a tribute question

wrong, fun fact. So it was hard to be more wrong. I feel like I get the most shit for this, so I just want to get it back. You do. Yeah.

We could go back. back into the archive and pull out all of our flubs. I would just say, I guess if I need like seven points next week, I'm going to pick up Zach Moss. The bill's running back. He's still pretty involved. He actually out-touched Singletary, I think.

James Cook fumbled, the rookie. Who knows how involved he's going to be? Listen, it's not a sexy upside pick, but like James, Zach Moss will probably get 7, 8, 9 carries. He actually, like, showed pretty good hands. He caught, like, an impressive, like, 20-year pass in that game against the Rams.

So I'll go with Zach Moss. He's fine. Zach Moss is the goal line back for the bills. Like, I mean, Josh Allen maybe is, but Zach Moss is that guy, so that's a solid one. Yeah. If you don't need someone to, like, play running back for you, like this week, but you're like,

I want to add high upside depth. Depth, not death. That was dark. But Khalil Herbert for the Bears just was better than David Montgomery. I would have said him, but he's, he was above the threshold. He was 41% rostered in Yahoo. But yes.

All right, 40-ish. The point is if he's out there, like, Kalil Herbert is worth adding, like, if you want to wait, because a month from now, David Montgomery, drafted by a previous regime, like he might not be a bear next year.

Like, they might want to see Khalil Herbert. He might just be better. Kenneth Gainwell for the Eagles, just, he's got a pass catching. He's like, they like him at the goal line. He can kind of do everything.

You know, Miles Sanders is a tendency to, like, rack up injuries as they go. And then Rashad White for the bucks is more of a stash. You're never going to play him at Four Nets Healthy.

But if anything happens to Lenny, Rashad White would be like a top 15 guy, probably. Yeah, he was the clear cut. He was another guy. guy that I was going to say, but he's definitely like a stash. Put him on your roster and just, you know, see what happens kind of deal. He last week, sorry, on Sunday, he was like the clear-cut backup.

I think Gio Bernard got zero snaps, and the other guy, Kishon Vaughn was a healthy scratch. So he is the clear-cut backup. If Lenny ever went down, Shod White would be, I think, the starter. And I think it should be noted that Shepter, Adam Schaefter on ESPN's, like, pregame fantasy show, said yesterday that he, that is his big sleeper for the season. He's like,

don't expect anything big in week one, but as the year goes on, I think this guy is going to get his role. He's going to get a bigger and bigger role. It's going to be a big part of the passing game. He's a really good pass catcher. So, I mean,

going on what I think is very clearly intel, Schefter had with Schaude White as like his big sleeper. Do you think if Schaefter was in a fantasy draft and he was in like the ninth round and he just got a text saying that Leonard Fournett Torres A.C.L. And this is in like August.

And Schaefter has the option to either tweet that out and get, you know, do his job or he can draft Rashad White before he tweeted it out and just, and like let Ian Rappaport scoop him but so he can get Rashad White on his fantasy team. Do you think he would do that?

Is he more focus on fantasy or the integrity of his job? I've heard that he's very into fantasy. Like he's obsessive fantasy. And in fact, I told what he said to Mina and Mina said that Shefter took Rashad White in their league. So, I mean, I'm just, I'm connecting dots here.

Yeah. He just gets scoops, then drafts, then releases the scoop. This is what happens, man. I'm telling you. By the way, the guy that he was all over before the game started this week was Kyron Williams for the Rams, who he was like talking up as a guy who's going to get all this passing down work. Karen Williams had a high ankle sprain in week one. And so he's like, obviously, that's not going to happen. But like, after the fact now that we saw what happened with acres. I'm like, oh, shit. Like, he actually probably knew what was going to happen here.

And that Karen Williams is going to be a bigger part of this offense. It's not going to happen now because the high ankle sprain. Can you imagine Adam Schaefter sending you his trade request in your fantasy football league? This is what I'm saying. What do you know? Terrifying. Other running backs, if you need someone for this week and you're like down, bad, desperate, you can probably squeeze another week.

Kenyon Drake for the Ravens, Mike Davis just over the weekend. Just Kenyon Drake took him over. you could do that for like maybe one more week. I mean, that's really desperate. If you want a stash, if you have an IR spot, Brian Robinson, the Washington running back, it does seem like he'll come back in October.

So if you could put Brian Robinson in an injured reserve spot, you could throw him there. And if you're in a super, super, super deep league, you could do Donchrell Hilliard as a stash for the Titans since it seems like he'd take over for Derek Kennedy. Or Damien Williams for the Falcons,

who's hurt, but might when he'd come back actually have a bigger role. But those are much deeper leagues. Any other running, we just had a lot of guys. Yeah, those are the main ones. So I had in my order, Jeff Wilson, Jalen Warren, Burkhead, Rashad White,

and then Gainwell was on my list as well. I agree with that, and I would also like Khalil Herbert. And then again, if Daryl Henderson's there, go get Daryl Henderson by like any means. And James Robinson are those guys. Receiver. D.K. Yo.

Who's your number one receiver? Waiverwire pickup a week one. I hemmed and hard between the two Washington guys, but I'm going to land on. Curtis Samuel, I guess, over Jahan Dotson. You guys can fight over Jahan Dotson. I guess I'll take Curtis Samuel. I also put Curtis Samuel.

Okay, here's my reasoning why I headed over to Johan Dotson, is volume in week one. Curtis Samuel got 11 targets and four carries. So 15 opportunities to touch the football. He ran 36 routes on 55 snaps. You know, he was very highly involved in this offense. he's on a, he's on the second year of a three year, $34 million deal with $23 million guaranteed.

So he was paid. Like Washington paid him. He missed almost all of 2021 with a groin injury. But again, going back to 2020, he was, he was the wide receiver 25 and half Kvr. So again, it was like a borderline wide receiver two. And then the year before that, he had 105 targets. Like he's done this before.

He's not like coming out of nowhere. I like Dotson a lot. And he was the other guy that I had at the top of my list, but like five targets makes me a little nervous that this is going to be like a boom or bust type thing with Dotson for a little while.

I think Dotson has elite potential down the line. Yeah, and you wonder if like the loss of Brian Robinson helped Curtis Samuel kind of get carries out of the backfield and if, you know, they didn't really, not they didn't trust Antonio Gibson,

but they needed somebody to kind of fill in for that secondary role and that's what Curtis is doing. Yeah. And I think I would say Curtis Samuel, especially in half PBR and PBR because he's getting some of the,

like he's just getting peppered with targets over like the middle and their manufacturing touches for him. So he would be my number one target on the way we're aware this week. Hyvitz, you didn't have him? I did, and I felt really weird about it because I love Johan Dotson, and I feel like he's been fantastic, and it was really awesome to see him with the two touchdowns. But if you're like, oh, I've to start one of these guys this week,

it's like banking on those two jump ball touchdowns happen to get, 11 targets is insane. Like, just, I mean, if you can get seven or eight in the next week, like that's still just really solid. It carries. I mean, someone at Fantasy pros, called Curtis Samuel the dollar store Debo Samuel

thought that was perfect I mean you're getting 11 targets and four carries like it's hard to argue with if you're down bad in a pinch like that you really don't ever find that on waivers so yeah we could wow we could fight over Curtis Samuel

right now another triple showdown another triple showdown time for Curtis Samuel it is the Curtis Samuel I think we should call him Kurt by the way it is the Kurt Samuel showdown time Kurt.

I feel like that changes everything. There's no popular Kurtz right now in the NFL. We need one. Kurtz. Well, does Kurt Cousins count if we call him the wrong name? I mean, yeah, it is Washington. All right, so I want to shout out Seth, who sent us, like, 30 trivia questions, and he did it in a spreadsheet that was, like, really well laid out.

Oh, shit. Look at you. Seth. Is Seth, you said? Seth. Shout out Seth. Appreciate it. Read a fucking book, Seth.

It sounds like you did. Sounds like you read a lot of books. All right. I love this one. I was going through all of them, and he had some good questions and here, Seth did, but this was my favorite.

How many three-pointers did Ben Simmons make us as Philadelphia's 76er? Oh, fuck. I think I mean, okay, I'm not going to say anything. Let's just guess. Let's throw out her,

let's throw out, I'll count down a three and throw out our guesses and then we'll talk. How many threes did Ben Simmons make as a sixer? Yes, as a sixer. How many three-pointers

did Ben Simmons make as a 76er. All right. Three, two, one. Two? Five. Yeah, I said five. Okay. I said five.

Okay. I'll set four. All right. We're all sick. Part of me was like, was it one? Part of me was like, did he hit one? I think he did hit. I remember it was a big deal.

He hit a corner three. It was. The answer is, oh, it's five. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I shouldn't have relented off a five, so easily. Oh my God. I would have backed off and honestly.

That was a tough one. I mean, we all knew it was like below 10. It was a bit of a leading question because... Oh my God. So the other day was with my friends and someone asked me, who is that basketball player getting booed at the U.S. Open? And they're like, why do people hate him? I was like, oh my God. How much time do you ask? Okay. So I get Curtis Samuel. D.K., you get the second pick here. Again. I'm going with Dotson. Because I do like the upside. I do,

I think as the year goes on, he's going to continue to develop. And again, going back to the preseason training camp, every report we saw out of training camp was that he had really great rapport. He had like the best report, even better than Terry McLaren

with Carson Wentz. And so I think we have to temper our expectations a little bit week in a week out. Again, he only had five catches, three. So he had three catches and two touchdowns. Like, that's not going to happen every week. And they're not going to play the Jags every week, by the way.

But I do think, I wish they were. Well, they play the Lions this week. Well, that's good. But again, he was a 16th overall pick, first round pick, you know, very athletic. Maybe the best hands in, well, definitely the best hands in the draft. Like, he's probably up there in terms of best hands of receivers in the NFL at this point.

He has that good of hands. And so I think he's just getting started. I think as the year goes on, if you want to kind of like have a guy on your bench that could have a really good, like, second half of the season, John Hudson's the guy. I'm long on J.D. That's not fun. J.D.

Also, Curtis Samuel's going to get hurt, and he's just going to see even more volume. He's just very good. We all just pick Curtis Samuel. He's just good. Well, for next week, it's Curtis Samuel for the season. I'd rather have Jahan Dodson, J.Dot. Yeah. Are we saying Jahan or Jhon?

We keep going back. J.D. It's J.D. That's why. I'm going to look it up as we're talking how you actually pronounce it. So I'm surprised. Craig, you have to go third here, and I'm surprised that this guy hasn't gotten paid.

I'm taking Josh Palmer. Yes, for the Chargers. Because Keenan Allen has that hamstring injury. We don't know how severe it is. Again, it's Monday afternoon. We don't know timing. But the Chargers are playing the Chiefs on Thursday night. He's not going to play.

That would be stunning. I would be very surprised. Josh Palmer filled in for Keenan Allen, and then DeAndre Carter filled in for the Josh Palmer role and was in three wide receiver sets for the Chargers and actually outperformed. Josh Palmer, DeAndre Carter had a touchdown. But I still think, you know, I'm going to bet on like the rapport, the history, the draft capital, everything of Josh Palmer.

They're playing a chief this week, like Hyfit said. And yeah, I mean, this is going to be the highest total of the week. I guarantee it. And I want the volume. I want Herbert's arm. Josh Palmer is the best deep threat on the team. Mike Williams, you know, had a really down week. So I think Josh Palmer is a very suitable dart throw out this week in your flex spot if you need them.

It's Jahan, by the way. Okay. John. I'm three for three so far on this episode. Not as bad as Asian Egypt. So I think that... I feel like J.Dots really a win, though. No, that's a good advancement.

So we got Curtis Samuel, Jehan Dotson for Washington. Kurt. And then we got Kurt, Kurt Samuel, J.Dot. Kurt Sam. It's like Kurt Sam. Sam, Sam Kurt. Josh Palm. People need to like search these names.

We should probably use the ones. Josh Palm. I don't know if that works. And you're in New York accent, you go, palm. POM. Josh, POM. We should call him chicken pom. It would really help my podcast thing if I, like, could speak English well.

That would be really good. It's all relative. Did you got, who if these three guys were gone? Or what you won this week and these guys, you know, you have like the last wave of order or whatever. I'm curious, DJed Shark for the Lions was second on the team targets, catches yards. And then there's also Robbie Anson. Anderson led Carolina in targets. Yep.

I feel like this happens every year with Robbie Anderson. He was the guy, I think, last year that we, or last week, sorry, yesterday, that we were talking about how, it's like the guy you don't want to admit is good at fantasy. But he's also sometimes just really not good. Going back two years in 2019, so wait, no, three years. No, it was 2020. He was the, well, I was here 24, no, what did you couldn't do a billion seconds? 10,000 years ago.

I've lost the last. sense of time and space, guys. It was about a million seconds ago. And he was the wide receiver 24. So he's another guy that has done it before. I still don't trust him, really. But he definitely, I think, is worth looking at it. The waiver wire.

He had five catches, 102 yards in a touchdown. Granted, he did score on a 75-yard touchdown and the Panthers only threw the ball 27 times. So I don't know exactly how repeatable it is. But this is a guy that has in the past done it. And the nice part is the Panthers really concentrated, like, their passing game through Robbie Anderson, DJ Moore, and McCaffrey. Who else was out there? Ian Thomas?

I hope that's that. Ian Thomas was freaking there. I think, yeah, Robbie Anderson is interesting. I guess, again, within the framework of like this week or season long, this week, Flor, Sterling Shepherd for the Giants, I mean, right now he's just the number one guy for the Giants. Gala Day just looks bad. Cadarist Tony's, like, subbing in. Wondale Robinson, the rookie got hurt. I mean, Sterling Shepard just, you know,

he coming back from an Achilles, didn't think he'd have juice. But like after Sequin, like, he just is fine. He's probably going to get a lot of targets to the Giants. Like, he's serviceable. Upsidewise, Craig said it a lot this month. Zay Jones, we were wondering if he would be number two in Jacksonville. He is number two in Jacksonville. I mean, Christian Kirk got a career higher on targets.

I think the Jaguars passing offense will look a lot better when they have the ball more. It was just so weird circumstances in that game to them not having a lot of time of possession. Jaggers will probably have more of that going forward. And Zay Jones just a serviceable back-end, like option when you're in a pinch. He played 59 snaps, second most on the team, 42 routes, was tied for most with Christian Kirk. Nine targets tied for most of Christian Kirk. They gave this guy $24 million over three years.

Also, can I shout out? I feel like we haven't mentioned the guy who literally got more targets than any other person we've mentioned. Is Donovan People's Jones at 11 targets? Yes. He was like the number one on this team, essentially. he led this team in routes run, targets, catches, and yards. Yes. He had six catches for 60 yards.

And I don't know. I don't want to do. He's also 23 years old, Donovan People's Jones. If you did a season long guy, shouldn't it be him? Well, I think it's so like Amari Cooper is clearly going to be the number one, I think, in this offense. And there was a couple of plays where Cooper had chances to make big plays and Peret just missed him or whatever. And so I don't know if this. This is repeatable.

Again, this is like, we're trying to look forward and figure out, like, what's going to happen in the future. The nice part about Donovan People's Jones is the utilization was there. The routes run, the targets. You know, he's going to be on the field in two receiver sets. Well, but to break the mold of this, like, right now, we're kind of trying to be like, if you need someone at a pinch for this week, but if you don't necessarily need to plug one of these guys in and you're like, I want to bet one of these guys just actually makes a huge

difference over the course of my season. Donovan People's Jones was an insane athlete at Michigan and just has just not been able to do anything consistently at the NFL level. It blows my mind, he's 23. Like, if Donovan People Jones is actually able to, like, level up his game as Amori Cooper is just kind of declining enough that the Cowboys freaking, you know, basically cut him. I know they traded him for like a six-round pick, but they say they basically were like we'd rather have her $50 million back than have Amari Cooper.

I feel like that's the guy that you kind of want to bank on, even in this Brown's offense that Jacoby Bissette being kind of pathetic. I feel like he's the highest upside here after like maybe Curtis Samuel or Josh Palmer, right, or Dodson. Well, I want to throw out one more. This is a sleeper pick. Garrett Wilson of the Jets. I also could say Corey Davis of the Jets who had, let's see,

he had six sketches for 77 yards. Garrett Wilson quietly out-targeted Elijah Moore, which is confounding a little bit because I love Elijah Moore. But he had eight targets in this game. He played 41 snaps, which was third most among the receivers. And I'm getting these numbers, by the way, from PFF. PFF does a great job with tracking like utilization. Darry Wilson also looked incredible.

He had a couple moves where he just made like four Ravens miss. He only got like six yards, but he made four people miss. He's in the Jahan Dotson category to me as like a second half explosion candidate type player. Because look, I think he was the first, no, he was the second receiver pick behind Drake London. He was 10th overall, I want to say. And he was my top ranked receiver going into the draft.

Like I love this guy. I think he's really talented. He has a really dynamic skill set. Obviously, you don't love the offense he's in. But the fact that he got so many, he played so many routes, he played so many snaps, ran so many routes, had so many targets. It's very encouraging to me for, I guess, like, his long term.

I would not plug him into my lineup next week, but he is a good stash in my opinion. If you gun to your head, you have to take a Packers receiver. Romeo Dobbs, Christian Watson. Probably Watson, because I think he's playing more. He's going to play more. Christian Watson, we'd be having a different conversation if he had caught that 70s.

Oh, my God. That's why I'm asking. I would take Watson. I think they, I think, obviously, they traded up for him in the second round. He's an elite elite athlete. There is a lack of, you know, playmakers. There's a like a playmaker's in this offensive receiver. So I think he has the opportunity here.

And I think he's going to play more. I do like Dobbs, but I think that they want Christian Watson to be a thing. And obviously, we'd be having a totally, totally different discussion. We'd be talking about how great he looked if he hadn't dropped that. 75-yard touchdown. There's one of these every year. We got an email asking us, what are the sliding doors moments?

What if Clyde punches in the first goal-line carry you got instead of going over six and then getting like five goal-line carries the next three seasons? D'Andre Swift dropping the game-winning touchdown in his first game's rookie. It's like Christian Watson either catches a 75-yard touchdown in his first drive or just drops it and it defines the very early portion of his career. He was second on the team in snaps. And first at receiver in

routes run. So, like, they made him a big part of their game plan. I think that's going to continue to be the case. And that is after having missed most of training camp in the last couple weeks of practice. So I think that's all like a good sign that he's going to be a big part of this offense. So he's definitely another good sleeper. Okay, so Curtis Samuel and Jahan dot for Washington, DJ Shark for the Lions, Josh Palmer for the Chargers. Stirling Shepherd for the Giants, for the Panthers, Ze Jones to the Jaguars, you know, Christian Watson, you know, maybe, you know, hold on to it. Garrett Wilson's the Jets, more like stashes, hold on to them.

Kyle Phillips for the Titans. Kyle Phillips, the Titans. And then also we skip this ahead of all these guys. If these guys are for whatever reason available in your league, Julio Jones for the Bucks, if for whatever reason, Julio Jones is out there, man, next-gen stats tracks speed, and Julio Jones has fast to speed in a game in like three years

in this Bucks game if you want. Chris Godwin is probably out a few more weeks after tweaking his hamstring. I don't know really why he went from having a, no contact jersey on Friday to like playing on Sunday, but he did. This is like, what the fuck are they doing? This makes me mad what the Buccaneers just did with Chris Godwin. It's really weird. It pisses me off.

For whatever reason, Godwin, you know, he played hamstring. It's very common for guys to have like the compensatory hamstring injury, but it happened. Anyway, but Julio Jones, like Ricky Bobby, he's like, I want to go fast again, and he did it. So the other one, Jarvis Landry for the Saints, like if he's out there, Jarvis basically led the team in every category. Like snaps, targets, catches, yards, everything. And he was going deep. Yeah. Which is weird.

I saw the next-gen stats of his routes and everything, and he was like getting targeted down the field. It was like a new, turning over a new leaf. So yeah, get Julio or Jarvis Landry ahead of any of those guys

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I'm going with Gerald Everett for the Chargers. 27% rostered on Yahoo. For starters, he's a beast. I mean, did you guys see his touchdown? He basically carried a guy about five yards into the end zone. That was amazing.

That was like, like Herbert was like, booting out to the left and through like a back shoulder dart to Everett, which he like turned, caught, and then just bulldozed his way into the end zone. It was very impressive. It was weird. The Chargers actually, it was an interesting game from their passing game point of view. Like, he, Gerald Everett tied for the team behind targets with four.

Like a whole bunch of different guys on the team had four targets. So it's kind of like hard to figure out going forward, like who's going to, you know, hoover up some of the targets that Keenan Allen is vacated when he's hurt for a while. But I will say it's important to note he did have four targets, three catches, 51 yards, touchdown. He ran routes on 44 or 67 snaps, which is important. He's running routes. He's not just sitting in there blocking. In fact, he was third on the team in routes run.

So again, this is exactly what you want to see at the tight-end position. You don't want to see a guy who's like blocking half the time. And with Allen out, maybe his route rate goes up, maybe his target rate goes up. I don't want to be hyperbolic, but this is really important. Like, if you don't have a tight end that you like, Gerald, like every year, there's one tight end

that is available on waivers after week one. And if you add that person, you don't have to deal with tight end again. There's like always usually one. Like, you know, there's Pat Friermuth last year. I think Dawson Knox the year before that. There's always a guy that you can add.

And it's like, it's kind of like the first time you get enough money where you don't, you can have like in unit, washer dryer. You know what I mean? Or just like a dry, where it's like, you don't have to have that

in your place. It's just nice to like not have to like leave your place to go do your laundry every time. It's so nice to not have to like

go to waivers. Streaming tight and like depressing. Yeah. It's so annoying. And like Gerald Everett is the in unit washer dryer. It's not great.

It's not Travis Kelsey. It's not life changing. It's like in the bathroom. This is from Nathan Jockey at Pro Football Focus. there were the only tight ends in week one that had two yards per route run which is a very important stat.

Two yards per rat run on at least 20 routes so basically efficiency at like a real sample. It was Travis Kelsey, Darren Waller, Pat Friarmouth, and Gerald Everett. Important list. Also, the only tight ends with 50 receiving yards and a touchdown this year are Travis Kelsey Gerald Everett.

Like he's your ticket out of offering tight ends every week. Just get him. I would prioritize him. I mean, we like David and Joku a lot of this all season. At this point, I would just flip Njoku for Everett straight up, and I wouldn't look back.

Like, if you don't have one of the top guys, you have to replace Kittal, if you don't like your dude, like, this is going to remove so much annoyance and inconvenience from your life. Kyle Pitts or Gerald Everett? I mean, it's Kyle Pitts.

I'm not even if you're hyperbolic. Because that's the point. He's not elite. He's not going to be Kyle Pitts at all. What I'm saying is, you just do your laundry at home. You don't have to go to the basement. You have to go to the laundry mat.

It's just, you know, it's not a big deal. It's just, you know, once you don't have to do that anymore, it's nice. That's all. Yeah, I just want a piece of that charges offense, too, and he's free on the waiver wire, waiver wire right now. So, yeah, go get him. You literally need a quarterback who can process fast enough

to get to their third or fourth option under play. It's very important. Herbert's that guy. A sign of a good quarterback when the ball is spread around a lot. Yes. So do we all choose him? Yes, we all chose him. Wow.

your tribute question. It is the Gerald Everett. God, this is a great trio this year. We had Curtis Samuel, we had Jeff Wilson, and now my boy, Gerald Everett. It is the Gerald Everett showdown time. Grace, just like leading back.

I just want to know what the people around you are thinking right now. You know how Cousin Sal always accuses Bill of cheating and guess the lines? I'm officially there with Hyphitz. So here's the deal. This is why I tell everyone to email me with the white text. Because you know why? You two goons

don't sift through the email. Make me do it. I go through the length of having everybody listening do the work of changing the color of the font in the emails they send me to not get these accusations

and then I am punished for victory. Yeah, now we thinks he protests too much. This is like why he decided to quote unquote volunteered to put the,

So you go pick the question. Fine, go pick the question. Go do it. You sound like those who smelt it, dealt it. You smelt. I'm so angry about this. The anger is not the cheating. The anger is I do all the work.

I'm doing all the trivia. You're not doing all the work. The people who send in the trivia are doing the work. You're receiving emails. The part of the work is making it so that I don't see the answers. I used to have them put it at the bottom of the email and that was annoying. You physically take the emails. and you print them off and you read them?

So you receive the emails and then click star. You do here. Anyway, we got one on basketball, football, American sports, planes. Planes. No sports questions. This whole show is us giving sports trivia, essentially. So we don't need to do that.

We have two playing ones. I like, Seth has a lot of good ones, but I'm going to go with a different played one. Because I read this question and I was like, oh my God, I've never thought about this for. Scott. Scott. Scott.

For the first time in over 50 years, NASA will be sending humans back to the moon as part of the Artemis program. Fun fact, the new space launch system rocket is taller than a football field. It's 380 feet. Geez. Unfortunately, the first two launch attempts were scrubbed

recently due to issues fueling the rocket. Scott's question is, how much fuel in liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen combined? Does the NASA SLS rocket hold? Good grief. And I read that and I was like, I don't know how to answer the question. I've never thought about liquid oxygen in my entire life. No, the answer is in gallons. He has the answer in gallons.

That's what he said. So this is how much can the gas tank of the rocket hold, essentially? Yes, but that's not gas. It's liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen. But yes, how many gallons are in the rocket that will be going back to the moon? Good Lord. I am going to absolutely embarrass myself.

This is worse than a billion seconds because I just have no concepts. So my... Human beings are equipped for this. My car has 17 gallons. Yeah. But like, how do you get oxygen liquid? How do you get oxygen liquid?

Also, how many gallons... I'm trying to visualize, like, how big is, So the thing is the size of a football field. Correct. Oh, my God. So it's a rocket is? How big is the tank on the rocket that's taller than the length of a football field? You know what I mean?

I want to be like 10,000 gallons, but I don't even know what that would look like. You know the old rocket launchers for NASA where it was like they had like two giant like rockets attached to the whatever they're launching and then like they detach later? Like are we talking like more than the actual spaceship length? I don't know. That's what I'm trying to picture how big these tanks are is what I'm saying. How many gallons is like a swimming pool?

I don't know. I think I'm just going to say there's like a swimming pool in there. That's my guess. I remember going to the Beninjerius Factor once and they had like a three-story thing and it just said milk. And I'm like, I want to pick,

I'm going to go 10,000 gallons. Yeah, I guess you're right. DK is probably more than a swimming pool size. I'm going to say 50,000. 50,000. 50,000. I'm going to say, do a billion.

See, I always want to, I love to be the contrarian. I just looked at the answer and my only hint I'll give you is that we're wrong. See, everybody. We're always anchored by the first guess, right? Like, Hyatt's guessing 10,000 just immediately makes Danny Kelly now guess within like 10 to 100. How tall is a tree, Craig? 700 feet. How much could have banana cost?

$10? All right, $10,000. I already forgot where you said. 50,000. thousand. 300,000. I regret tell you it was wrong. Yeah, it's 730,000 gallons.

Holy shit. I was going to go even bigger than 300,000, so that's good that you kept me down. Yeah, that was dumb. I don't know why I did that. I wanted Gerald Everett. Okay, who's your second tie down? In the heartbreaking instance, you don't get Gerald Everett this week. I'm going with Logan Thomas of the commanders.

Really? I kind of waffled between a few different guys here. I'm guessing you're going with Taysom Hill, which I just can't do. I just can't do it. I'm not doing that. I'm not going to Tasson. And I don't feel great, honestly, about the fact I've now recommended three separate commanders pass catchers.

This is commanders week. But Logan Thomas is coming off of a pretty bad ACL and I think MCL injury. So he had a major knee injury last year. He got 48 snaps, which led all tight ends for the Washington commanders this weekend. He ran 25 routes, got five targets. This is a guy in the past when he was healthy was like hoovering up targets. He was just getting a ton of targets over the middle of the field. He's a converted quarterback who's like really athletic and tall frame.

Oh, is an athletic tight end? Indeed he is. And so I'm just going to say since he's done it in the past, he's shown the ability to like garner a large target rate in the past. I'm going to go with him again and kind of just like hopefully you're buying sort of the week one. he's just kind of getting worked into the offense-type deal and then next week he'll be even more healthy and ready to go. So, yeah, I'm going with Logan Thomas.

Logan Thomas is not even the first tight end I would pick among tight ends coming back from ACL tears. I would take Robert Tanya and of the Packers over him. He's another good one. Three catches, 36 yards that look bad. Oh, the whole Packers' offense look bad. They're going to look better. They're playing the Bears this week.

So, like, you know, obviously it's going to be like quite the turnaround. Like, honestly, my argument for Tanya is he exists. Like he plays. He's on green. Logan Thomas caught three passes from. 45 yards he's targeted on 20% of his routes. So I don't know. I mean, I think they're both.

One of these has Aaron Rogers and one is Carson Wentz. And the whole point you just said, like we said the whole episode saying they have Terry McLaurin. They have Curtis Samuel. They have J.D. They got Antonio Gibson at seven catches. Like Washington has options. Green Bay.

No options. They're running back. So they're best to receivers. Like I think that at some point, Bobby Tanya is actually one of the few people left who's actually like seems to know where Aaron Rogers wants them to be. none of these are good or exciting bets, but I would pick him. The other person I would consider Hayden Hurst for the Bengals.

Yeah, is what I was going to say. Five catches for 46 yards. That's not as good as it sounds because the Bengals had the most offensive plays in like 20 years this week. So you kind of want him about more than that. But T. Higgins has a concussion. We'll see if he plays next week.

But I think Hayden Hurst is just better than like, you know, as a receiver than CDUZama, who was on that team that made the Super Bowl for Cincinnati last year. I think Hayden Hurst is actually going to be a pretty solid part. this bingoes passing game. It's fine. It's passable. And like Joe Burrow, it's going to be a big offense. I mean, he was second on the team in targets.

Yeah. So. Hey, I got a couple of sleepers at the tight-end position I want to talk about real quick. Tyler Conklin, who has a massive glandsberg for us over the offseason. We never talked about it probably one time. As he should be. Why should we talk about Tyler Conklin? T-Cong? Okay. Well, here I'll tell you, Hyfitz. He played 77 out of 84 snaps for the Jets.

That's elite usage. He ran 50 routes on 62 passplay, so he's running routes almost all the time. He caught four passes and a touchdown, 9.4 half-pbr points. And he is a guy, I don't know if you were paying attention, because I don't blame you if it weren't.

He was getting a lot of high-pacches? He had four catches. You said four catches and a touchdown on half-p-p-pr or p-pr? Half-ppfx. Well, he had a touchdown in both half-ppp-r and ppr. He had a touchdown.

Well, no, you say, wait. So just saying he had four catches and half people out's two points. The touchdown's eight. So it's 16 yards. He had 14 yards. You're getting caught up in the details. He was a top 10 tight end this week.

That was such an asshole move by Hyvitz. He could have just said he had 14 yards. I just was genuinely confused. He literally like took you to the water and made you drink it as a horse right there. I was less worried about the 14 yards and more worried or more excited about the fact that he had seven targets. He outscored. He outscored Mark Andrews, Dallas Goddard. Okay.

Yeah, but it's random. At some point, like we're talking about touchdowns. No, it's not, that's the point. That's the point. He had, he played, he ran 50 routes. He had seven targets. It's not random. I get what you're saying, but so we're saying, Elijah Moore, you really like,

a receiver, Garrett Wilson, we recommended. Corey Davis recommended Tyler Conklin. Okay, don't pick up Tyler Conklin. Everybody else can, though. I'm asking because at what, I'm serious, at what point? What good tight end is there? That's, this is where I'm going. The title position fucking sucks.

At what point do you add Taysadnell? And now, this is my point. If you're in a 12 team, like me, maybe in a 14 team, like at what point do the tight ends get so bad that you're like, actually, I'm just going to, like, at some point, let's be real, you're praying for a touchdown and that's all. And I think that Tyler Conklin's where I'm like, you know what, let me just see if, like, they do some weird shit with Taysom Hill, or at least around this range, right?

Well, I'm surprised you haven't brought up Taysing Hill yet. So that's what I'm saying. I think Tassum Hill, I would do like Bobby Todin maybe over Tassum Hill, Hayden Hurst, but I'm going to take Tassum Hill before, like, Tyler Conklin. because at some point if it's touchdown or bust, let me at least take the guy who can play quarterback, fullback, running back,

receiver tight end. I guess, yes. I understand what you're saying. I do. My point with Tyler Conklin is it's not touchdown or bust. Like, he had seven targets. That translates, he ran 50 routes.

He had seven targets. Like, yes, it was touchdown or bust in this particular game, but those are good underlying numbers. And in fact, there's contrarians out there or people maybe who just, like, are more slaves to utilization

that would say Joanne Johnson from the Saints is a better pickup than Taysam Hill. Taysam Hill ran four routes. Taysam Hill was in for like a third of the Saints snaps. Joanne Johnson had 45 snaps. He ran 32 routes. He was third on the team with five targets. But all of these tight ends are tight-end.

Like my point is all of these guys are tied into bust. Literally all of them. None of, like, other than Gerald Everett, which is why we all picked him first, none of these guys are seeing enough to justify. Like, it doesn't actually matter, like, you know, Robert Tanya this week, having free for 36.

again, the Bengals are in the most plays in 20 years, and Hayden Hurst had five catches for 46 yards. In PPR, what is that, eight points at half PPR? Like, at some point, you're just kind of hoping these guys get a touchdown. I don't know, at some point, there's a Taysom Hill line where you're like, this is all, like, nuts. I'm not actually saying, like, that I hate Taston Hill as, like, a touchdowner bus guy. I'm just saying, like, these are the, like, the variables that you want to look at, I think.

Like, Routes Run. like Taseau Hill literally ran four routes. Like he was barely on the field for them. Yes, he was on the field in important situations, and that's something that we should talk about. Yeah, he had a 50-yard run, which, I mean, he's not going to do that every day. Yeah, exactly.

So I think that's, we're just talking about process. I think we're arguing about process versus, like, results here. And I think, obviously, you are hoping for a touchdown with, like, the vast majority of these guys. But I think you're more likely to get a touchdown if a guy's running 50 routes versus four. You know what I mean?

I bet you Hyphitz's girlfriend loves whenever he has recordings because then he gets all his argumentative energy out in the hour. It's like playing argument fetch with a dog just to like get the, just so he can go to bed that night for an hour. Send him with D.K. This is, I'm dealing with a,

I have a three-year-old, a four-month-old puppy, and Hyphitz. This is my life right now. Hifitz is rubbing D.K.'s nose. Rubbing his nose in Tyler Conklin's 14 yards. just grabbing him by the scruff of the neck. Look at it. Look at the routes run. Tyler.

I think the bottom line in Hyfitts is absolutely actually right at the end of the day. It's like all these options suck. My point is they're all suck and we're like, we're going to recommend three different jets guys that are not Elijah Moore. We have to have standards. I guess. I mean, on all the other positions, you went so deep.

all these, like, random guys, and D.K. mentions one who got seven targets and random million routes. And you're like, no, that one's wrong. Fuck you. I hate that. He's suggesting an option. I'm like, yeah, I just, it's, it broke. Jeez, get Gerald Everett. It's like, he recommended a laundromat that was like two miles away. And I'm like, no, I'm not, that's, it's too far. Get Gerald Everett this week. I'm going to die on the Tyler Conklin Hill. I know. I love when you have no allegiance to a player until you argue about him on a show. Now you're like, I fucking love Tyler Conklin. Can't wait to tweet about Tyler Conklin this Sunday. Hyphins, how many catches do you think Tyler Conklin had last year?

She had a guess. 26. 61. Yeah. 600 yards. There you go. Wow, he had 600 yards. Even I didn't know that.

The irony is actually like Tyler Conklin. Now I'm definitely on the Tyler Conklin Hill. I will say, he got a lot of hype. Like, if you search his name on Twitter for the three season. I know. I'm annoyed that I'm on the wrong side of this too because he actually is a good player. I just think it's better. Why are we still talking about it?

It's you. It's you. like you admit it 55 or whatever and we're just like delirious. All right, let's get this thing actually important. Let's do defenses. Because this actually matters a lot for the people have to stream defenses. There's a lot.

I'm going to just run through them. The Browns are playing the jets this week. And then they also get the Steelers in week three. That is obviously very tasty and you can hold on them for two weeks. The Bengals are now

like a really good option. The Bengals play the Cowboys this week. Now we're going to have a crush at quarterback. And, I mean, worth reminding people, Dak got hurt at the end of the game. Like, the Cowboys scored three points with Dak. And now they don't have Dak, the offensive line. Like, that's good.

And then the Bengals play the Jets in week three. So the Bengals are one you can hold on for two weeks. Didn't expect to recommend this, but the Steelers defense, after making Joe Burrow turn to the ball over five times, like T.J. Watt seems like he's going to be out a long time, which is bad. But the Steelers are playing the Patriots

who might not have Mack Jones and the Patriots offense was really bad with Mac Jones and it's like if the Patriots have a backup quarterback, the Steelers playing them. And then the Steelers play the Browns in week three with Jacoby Preset. So that's a pretty good option. The Rams even...

And then they play the Jets in week four. Yeah. So like there's a lot of defenses here that you could get like multiple weeks out of. The Rams are like out there because they were playing the bill. in week one. But they play the Falcons this week.

The Falcons offensive line versus the Rams defensive line is like an Aaron Donald's like mismatched city. The Broncos, obviously don't know, we're recording this Monday. I don't know how the Broncos defense looked, but like they're playing Houston next week

in Davis Mills. That seems tasty. And then if all those are gone, you could do worse than the Giants' defense, not saying they're great, playing Carolina this week. Baker didn't look awesome. And then the Giants are playing Dallas in week three

and Dallas with Cooper Rush. So there's a pretty good amount of like very streamable defenses that you can pick up. I like that. I like that Baker Mayfield to me feels like he's always on the verge of creating multiple turnovers. Him and like Carson Wentz, a couple other guys. You want to just like target those quarterbacks when you're streaming defense. I'm still thinking about Craig saying Tyler Conklin was like argument fetch for me. Yeah.

Do you like that argument fetch? I'm mad because I feel like I was standing up for the people. Pass that along to Jackie. I want to know she thinks about an argument fetch with you. I think that's all we got. Thank you to anyone

who stood through that. My God. I mean, wow, we really shouldn't have buried all the defenses behind that. Thank you,

Tyler Conklin. If Tyler Conklin is a top 10 tight end this week, what do we do? One of the big fucking checks. Give you one of the big checks.

Give you one of the big ones. They gave him one. Ten bucks. I'll do ten bucks on that, yeah. Do you guys think that that rocket ship with this what was it 700,000 gallon tank? Is that the biggest?

Is it the biggest like liquid tank in for like a like a what is a rocket ship? A automobile? A vehicle. It is a vehicle. Is it a vehicle? I guess it's a vehicle. Is it the largest tank of any vehicle ever? Good question.

Well, I bet because they probably have gotten more efficient with fuel. right? So the previous ones probably needed bigger bigger. You think the rockets have gotten smaller? I feel like they would have gotten bigger. I feel like we have bigger rockets now than we used to. It's a good question. This is a good rocket, but we didn't, it needs to be like 20% bigger. Like the Titanic nowadays would be small

compared to most cruise liners. You know? I'm googling our rockets bigger or smaller. Honestly, what about a fucking cruise liner gas tank? Those things are enormous. Seriously. Dude, Craig, while they're talking about it, this is where my brain went. Aircraft carriers are nuclear power, that fucking blows your mind.

There's nuclear reactors on them things. Isn't that insane? On them shits. They got freaking laser beams on their heads. Everybody deserves a warm meal, Craig. The Saturn rocket that launched Apollo 11 burned 200,000 gallons of kerosene, and another 300 plus thousand gallons of liquid oxygen. That is what I'm reading.

That just seems wrong. It's just a big old barbecue. All right, that's all we got. Okay. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. You can see our rankings for in-season. We'll be up this week at fantasyf football.3.com. You can use that to help you start the decisions.

Thank you, Craig. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Jesse for production help. Thank you, Lorne. Thank you, Dolly Parton. 9 to 5, baby. That's us every day. I know someone that went to Dolly World recently.

It's like a thing Nine to five? It's like one of the best songs out there. High Fitz, do you know that song? Nine to five? Yeah, of course. Wasn't it a show? Yeah, it was.

Nothing is we said. Dolly Parton's a legend. Jolene is the best Dolly Parton song in that thing. It's not like a coffee table book, but my family friend has like the big, massive Dolly Parton book, I think, that she wrote about like her whole life and some of the songs.

It's just like an amazing book to flip through it. Also, shouts out Dolly. helped fund one of the vaccines. Which one was it? Oh, yeah. Moderna, right? She, like, maybe one of the greatest Americans. I tried her ice cream flavor from Jenny's.

It was strawberry ice cream with pretzel in it. It was fine. I mean, imagine the two truths and a lie. It was fine. Two truths and a lie. I have a Jenny's flavor. I funded the Moderna vaccine. It's pretty good.

I'm sure she has many more facts about her than just those two things, which came in year 80 of her life. I'm sure she has many more fun facts. That's a great, like, button. at the end of the, you know. Yeah, 76 years old, Dolly. Only five feet tall. Wow.

Genuine. Genuine shock in amusement. All right. Goodbye, everyone.