The Ringer NFL Show - Waiver Wire Targets for Week 3

Episode Date: September 19, 2022

We run through the injuries from Week 2 and offer up our must-add players for Week 3 with our favorite format, Showdown Time. (2:08) - QB Streamers (7:33) - RB Targets (13:43) - WR Targets (29:20) - TE Targets (37:00) - DEF Streamers Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We are going through our must-add players after week two. We're going to go through trivia. You'll see how it works. We're going to go through every position. We're all going to pick our favorite player. If you don't get your favorite player because you've got how long ago a billion seconds was wrong, you'll figure it out. Then we go through in order. Do you guys want to do quarterback first because Trey Lance got hurt, or do you want to do that later?

It does feel like the biggest storyline of the weekend. So we should, let's start with Lance. So Lance is out, broke his ankle. He's already gotten surgery. He's out for the season. I know a lot of people listening probably have Tray Lance. We pumped him up all over. I wanted to do the intro with, I wanted like the music from the Queen of England's funeral to open this.

I was overruled. Got to respect the queen. Yeah. How dare you? Thought it was a bit unseemly. Unsavory. That's what I was told. So.

Unsavirable. know if you would have been offended by that there you go Craig and Dicare your guardrails but if you wanted to hear it it was beautiful music it was a very it was very nice procession I was gonna try to see if I could get like a Jimmy G King Charles joke in there I just I don't know enough about that's all right because I didn't know how to do that but anyway if you have Trey lanch you have to him so we talked a little bit this on Sunday show but I think we can all agree like if Tua is out there obviously you can get him like he's probably not available, but I mean, he literally leads

the league in passing yards and touchdowns. So if two is there, we can all agree get him. Is Carson Wentz like the next best dude? He's got Philly this week. I think, I would say he's still probably one of the top waiver ads. He is the QB2 after two weeks. Not that that's going to necessarily carry on,

but I mean, obviously he's been good. They've been having some advantageous garbage time or at least this last week, some advantageous garbage time points. It seems like they're a pretty past every team. They have some good skill players. I think it all kind of like goes together. Yeah, every year there's a few quarterbacks who are on a shitty defense and are down a lot and they

kind of garbage time it up. Like it's like the Blake Bortles model. And Carson Wins is kind of like the perfect successor to Blake Bortles. So it's probably him. I mean, there's other guys around there. Like I don't want to touch Justin Fields anymore after seeing him last night. But like, I mean, Jimmy Garoppolo obviously is one of the, especially in two quarterback leagues where there's no guys on the waiver wire.

Jimmy G was probably not on anybody's team. So he is also an option. I like Marcus Mariotta. Yeah, I do too. D.K., that's where my head's at. Playing Seattle? You've got the pocket passers of like Trevor Lawrence, James, Jared Goff, Jimmy G.

But dude, Marioita, I mean, he's been fine. His numbers don't look great. But he's got the second most rushing attempts among quarterbacks. That'll change because Jill and Hurst is playing. Right, right. But Mario, he played the Rams and the Saints. Those are really good defenses.

And then you said he plays Cleveland in Seattle, his next two games. I kind of think Marioata has actually pretty serious chance. to be a top 10 quarterback one of the next two weeks. I like that too. So I would go Marioada and then otherwise, would you guys, I'm curious that you guys would rank these three people.

Trevor Lawrence, James Winston, who has more back fractures right now than he does touchdowns, and then Jared Goff. That's a good question. Trevor Lawrence stands out to me. He's like actually pretty good.

The Goff thing, the Goff one is interesting because obviously, I think they've passed way, way more than I was expecting. They've been into a couple sort of like shootout style games so far. I don't necessarily think that's going to carry over going forward. But, you know, good offensive line, a lot of good skill players around him.

They've been in the right kind of game scripts to have him do some stuff. But I would say Trevor Lawrence stands out to me among those guys. I would probably pick Trevor Lawrence as well. I want the guy who's ascending. I mean, golf had two games at home against week defenses. They're playing at Minnesota next week. Trevor Lawrence adds a little extra boost with his legs too. and again, I just think he's going to keep getting better,

especially without Urban Meyer, and now Doug Peterson running the offense. I think I would lean Lawrence. Yeah, I feel like Trevor Lawrence's numbers don't look impressive or anything, but he played really well. The Colts, I mean, they had this pretty zone heavy. Like, they just let the Jaguars think and dunk them,

and they were like, yeah, okay, fine. So Trevor Lawrence started this game like 9 of 10 for 97 yards, and then the Colts never scored. So they just kind of had James Robinson run the ball. I think that next week, the Jaguress playing the Chargers. Obviously, it's a better defense, which is scary, but the shoe, but overall, roll though, the shootout potentially, the Jaguar was going to throw more. Trevor Lawrence actually

hasn't had to throw a ton. I kind of don't mind Trevor Lawrence, but, you know, it depends how you want to go about it. It kind of takes a village maybe. If you're going to have two quarterbacks because you're down on Lance, I like Marioota for the next couple weeks. And then you can maybe add someone else if you want to see if you can have like, you know, you might have to do a little platoon at quarterback going forward. But that's how I would roll with it. And James in theory is good, but honestly, dude, when you're already, psychologically, when you're in place Trey Lance and he's out for the season,

and now you're adding a guy that's got four fractures in his back, you don't feel like you've solved your problem. Yeah, yeah, that seems very volatile to me. Not into it. Yeah, I would say number one option we're saying would you still take Carson Wentz over Trevor Lawrence? Well, number one is like if Derek Carr or Kirk Cousins is like available. That's like obviously number one.

I think Tua would be next. Like if two is out there still, even though he's playing Buffalo, honestly, it's hard, but I think, you know, six touchdowns, you probably should play two. I think Wence is there. And then after that, if I had to have someone, like, gun to my head, I have to have a quarterback for this week. I would go actually Mariota. Yeah.

Because I just think the Seattle defense versus, I mean, the Rams or the Saints is completely different. And by different, I mean, terrible. Thanks, Seifitz. I mean, anytime. And then, yeah, James, Lawrence, you know, Lawrence is higher upside, but probably, you know, lower floor and then James, I guess the lowest floor is another back fracture. Am I making fun of that too much? It just seems incredible that he's like, yeah, four fractures in the back.

Yeah, how do you play with that? I don't get that. I don't know. They said it was like no risk for re-injury or getting worse. Like that seems, I don't know how the back works, but none of that makes sense to me. It's like the scariest injury I can think of. NFL players don't play the sport in the real world. The medical community in football is just completely separate from real people. Honestly, it's fake-ass doctors. It is. Dobbins knew what he was talking about. There we go. Okay, so yeah, get Marioo

if you need. Sorry at advance about the whole Trail Lance thing. At least it ended early. I guess that's all we got to say. Yeah, at least now, Hyphitz, you know, we never knew if he was bad. I think the queen thing would have worked. I just, I'm just, I think it would have. He really wanted that queen thing. I just, it was funny, man. I just, I can't believe you guys said no. Anyway, all right, let's get to our running backs. We're going to do

trivia for the running backs. So in case you're listening to this for the first time, Godspeed. What we do here is we go through, we all, pick our top running back pick for the week and then to simulate waivers, only one of us can get them. So to decide who gets who, we're just going to answer a random trivia question that someone has emailed us in and then

we'll pick out all the running backs we want from there. Not that many injuries this week. It's not really a fruitful week for the waiver wire, but that kind of makes it all the more desperate to get the trivia right. So with that said, DK, who's your number one running back waiver ad after week two? Well, I want to

mention two guys first that probably they don't fit the criteria. We always go with 40% or lower in terms of ownership on Yahoo or ESPN. Brian Robinson and Rahim Mostert, I think, are both guys that I put above this player that I'm going to mention next. Also, Jamal Williams is in that group. Great. Yep, him too. But my pick for right now is J.D. McKissick of the commanders, 23% rostered.

And mostly because in this game where they had a trailing game script, he had a much bigger role, which I think you could probably imagine. He's the pass catching down, or the pass down back for the commanders. He ran 23 routes. He tied for second among all running backs this week pending Monday night football in targets with seven, seven catches, 54 yards. He had three rushes for nine yards and almost 10 half PBR points. So again, this is in half PPR and PPR only, this would be my recommendation,

but he's just going to run a lot of routes. He's going to get a lot of looks. he's going to be sort of a checkdown, short and intermediate area option for Carson Wentz. And it seems like he's locked into that role when they're trailing. So that's kind of, and I think that's probably going to be the case going forward for them. So I like Jady McKissick right here. Hyvitz, is that who you had? No, Craig, you made a face when he said Jady McKissick.

Well, no, I understand it. I mean, he's such a high floor guy. Like, he's a plug-in-play. You hope for like five, six catches and like you can move on. I went with more, who did you go with? So again, we're doing this for if you have to, play someone this week. And honestly, there's not many good options. I went

with Mark Ingram for the Saints. And it's pretty gross. I want Darrell Williams. Yeah, so that's the thing. So James Connor heard his ankle in Arizona this week. It seems like he's already going to be fine. Yeah, it said it wasn't considered serious. But Connor has a history with ankle problem, so.

But that's the thing. We're doing the same thing. And I think that generally we're always trying to, in this game, we're trying to be like, you have to play someone this week. Realistically, you probably, if you're going to add a running, back this week, it's probably more of a stash for future weeks. Again, I'm thinking Mark Ingram, you're taking Daryl Williams. It's the same thing. We're saying a running back, whether it's Alvin Kamara and the Saints or James Conner, the Cardinals, who's like going

in the next week, probably going to play in week three, but like maybe they're banged up enough that they lose some work. You know what I mean? It's just like to pick your poison. I just went with Ingram because the Saints are playing the Panthers. I kind of think the Saints are going to stomped the Panthers. And at some point, Alvin Camererer, if he plays the rim injury, I kind of feel like they're not going to play them at some point if the game. gets out of hand. But honestly, it's kind of a roll of the dice. It's really like, if you have Camara, maybe just add Ingram if he's still around. And then same thing for Connor. Like, if you have Connor, it's really just add Daryl Williams or, you know, Benjamin, depending on your

flavor. Yeah, I didn't. That's the reason I didn't really like either of those two. And I had those guys written down here, but like both of them are sort of in a, you know, timeshare. They had Tony Jones Jr. going for the Saints with Mark Ingram. They were split in reps. Darrell Williams and Eno Benjamin, like pretty much straight down the middle. And it's, It's like, oh, God, like, that's just the type of backfield I want to avoid. I think the floor with Jady McKissick is kind of like what made me lean him. But interesting, we all disagreed on this one. Do you want to do trivia anyway?

No, well, wait, real quick. The big massive caveat to all this. No, D.K. Come on. But I'm saying the massive caveat to all this is that we're recording this on Monday. So there's four teams left to play. So the bills are playing the Titans Monday to football. Eagles are playing the Vikings tonight. So if something happens, you know, someone gets injured in one of those games, obviously

that would change how we're feeling. I think the point is that the running backs kind of sucked this week and that nothing really changed. You looked at Waver Wire last week and all the guys that were there, they're just still there and nothing's changed. I like, you know, Benjamin Arizona, but honestly, it's so split with Daryl Williams that it's... None of it's exciting.

They're all just... It's like, that bland. And then another guy to keep an eye on, in my mind, is Rashad White, D.K.'s guy on the bucks. Gio Bernard got hurt. He, like, hurt his ankle on special teams. So, you know, if anything were... Again, this is a stash only,

but if anything were to happen to Leonard Fournett, I mean, like Rashad White probably would be the guy. Yeah, so. Those are stashes, just to reiterate, if Jamal Williams from the Lions is on waivers, get him. If Raheim Oster from the Dolphins is on waivers, get him. And then if you have an IR spot

and Brian Robinson's going to come back maybe by like as soon as week five, which is crazy because he got shot. But, I mean, man, good for him. I can't believe he's 48% rostered. No one dropped him. Everyone's like, yeah, sure. Weird. Yeah, all right.

Well, hopefully he is, I'm almost positive he has real doctors helping him with that. I know, can you guys believe that the same doctor that punctured Tyrod Taylor's lung was the guy working on Justin Herbert's ribs? Well, I could believe it because he's the guy who does their doctor's things. Also, it's the Chargers. If I was Justin Herbert, I'd be like, get the hell away from me. I don't want you within 20 feet of me. I'd get a restraining order against the guy. Taylor is suing him right now.

Did you know that? a job. No, I didn't know that. He should be suing him. Yeah, I did he still have a job? For like lost wages and whatnot. Was it a lung puncture? Did I get that right? Or was it just like a... No, no, it was. Oh, oh. All right, I don't want my lungs punctured. All right, let's go next to here. Oh, no. Do the trivia or... No, we got to stick to the format. No. No. Keep the people wanting more. It's not some frivolous exercise. Yeah, this. D.K., this is fantasy football, all right?

this isn't some Fugazi game we're playing here. There are rules. What do we do it here, guys? All right. We're going receivers now. All right, receivers, again, not much to change. I mean, Mike Evans is suspended for next week because he had the gall to defend his quarterback.

Good for him. Jared Judy is day-to-day with a rim-bird injury. Just randomly the same rib cartilage injury Justin Herbert had. Don't know how that happened. I feel like I didn't know you could... What is fractured rib cartilage until three days ago? I don't know how you fracture cartilage.

Also, I don't really understand that. Like your ear is cartilage. Can you fract? Yeah, how do you fracture your ear? Is it just tear and they're just saying fracture? Breaks off the bone or something? I don't know. We sound like such idiots.

Do we? I don't know because part of, remember when we realized that Adam Schaefter had such weird, like, style to his tweets because he was copying and pasting text he got from like 20 different people? And that it's like, is this just like an agent summarizing someone else's medical?

Or is that actually a term? Should I Google it? Can you fracture cartilage? There's no way. It doesn't make sense. I think you can since that's what, they did. How have we never heard of this until now, though? I googled, can you fracture cartilage? And it says, articular cartilage damage most commonly occurs in the knee, blah, blah, blah,

in several cases, a piece of cartilage can break off. It's called cartilage damage. Maybe it just means like cartilage is ripped, torn, pulled from the bone. Yeah, I guess my question is just if it's football and how do we not hear about this every year? What was the finger? What was the finger injury that Russell Wilson had last year. Malat finger. Malat finger. Didn't like several guys all of a sudden have mallet finger last year? And I'm like, I've never heard of this thing before. And now, what is the term for that where you hear something for the first time and then after you hear it once, you hear it again a million times after that? I don't know what that's called.

Ironically, once we hear that term, I bet we'll hear it more. Yes, you're probably right. Okay. Someone, ringer fantasy football at g-gillot.com. Somebody email us that term for the word when you hear it. All right. Let's actually talk about football. All right, receivers. Jerry Jr. Deka, who's your number one waiver ad for receiver after week two? I'm going with Garrett Wilson of the Jets who had an absolutely massive, massive week this week for the Jets. He basically has emerged as maybe their best pass catcher. And I guess that makes sense considering he was like the 10th overall pick, my top rated receiver coming into the draft. He's got a connection with Joe Flacco clearly.

And that's, I guess, the only reason I have a slight pause about recommending Garrett Wilson is because eventually it seems the Jets are going to want to play Zach Wilson again, which just doesn't bode well for the offense. But Joe Flacco, for the next week or two, I think he's going to feed Garrett Wilson. Wilson had 14 targets this week, which is awesome. Scored 30 points in PBR, which is awesome. I don't think that's going to happen every week, of course. But he basically passed all the eye tests that I have for it,

and he played a lot more snaps. You know, they obviously know that he needs to be a big part of their offense. So they're playing him a lot more. He's getting a big snap. He's getting a big snap and target rate. It's just trending all in the right direction. He was mine as well. It just goes to show how little people have faith in the Jets

that he was the second wide receiver off the board in drafts this year, right? It was Drake London and then Garrett Wilson, right? Yep. And yet he is the least owned first round wide receiver in fantasy football. Like Jahan Dotson is more rostered than he is. Obviously, Drake London is, Chris Oliva is. All of these guys, oh, I guess maybe Traylon Burks is not. But it's shocking that Garrett Wilson, he's only 23%

registered in Yahoo on Yahoo. So his upside is just too big. I mean, there's a lot of other guys out there. You're Josh Palmer's and your Jacoby Myers, your Sterling Shepherds. But like, none of, we know who those guys are. And they're just like kind of buying time in an offense. But Garrett Wilson, for all we know,

could become a top 10 wide receiver in two weeks. Right. You need to, I think you just need to add him to see how this all goes. Because like what he did in week two was pretty damn incredible. And if he can build on that, continue to like expand his role in the offense. He was lining up all over the formation inside and the slot. Score two touchdowns, obviously. So, yeah, you just kind of, I think you need to add him and see what happens.

Yeah, I had Garrett Wilson too. Again, he's like if Cadarious Tony could stay healthy for 60 continuous minutes. Okay. Let's do the trivia for Garrett Wilson. Craig. All right. It is the Garrett Wilson. Showdown time.

There it is, D.K. That's kind of New York. That had a little New York flavor to it. I like it. That's because I was looking at Hyphitz. I was hoping he put his hands on. hands up with us, but he didn't. No, no, I did not.

So since I was accused of, you know, disrespecting the monarchy, again, it would have been funny if you had it. It would have been great. It would have been really funny. All right. We got any email from Austin. Austin. Queen Elizabeth was gifted a corgi on her 18th birthday named Susan.

How many corgis did the queen own that were direct descendants of Susan? Oh, my God. Holy shit. On her what birthday? 18. So she was like 97 when she died or something, right? So 80 odd years of corgis. 80 odd years of corgi generations.

80 years, every corgi lives what? 10, 12 years. How many corgis did she have at a time? Yeah, that's the question. Because I think they have a lot of corgis. There's many corgis. No, I think she currently has two, right? Also, well, also, they get, you got to remember,

they must have such great medical care. Those corgis probably live much longer than the average. dog, right? I just wonder if she only keeps two at a time. They eat like kings. That's a nice clean number there. You know, like, does she just have like eight corgis running around?

I don't know. I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with 18, actually. I'm going to go with 18. I'm going to go with 18. Okay. I'll go with 19. Is that?

Oh, damn it. Don't do it. It's 80 years and it's like, I don't know. Like, I'm going to give them like 15 years the things we're going to live because like, I don't think they live that long.

They're probably the best cared for corgis literally on earth. Yeah. Right? Like they're the longest living dogs. I think there's a chance that I think there were times when she had more than two corgis. So I think like perhaps she was having three, four, five corgis hanging around. And she has a whole fleet of people working for her to take care of these corgis.

I'm going to say like 25. 25. Okay. The answer, Austin, is. Is it like 60? It's 62. That's a lot of corgis. God, can you imagine having.

60 dogs during your life? That's way too many. Even for how old she lived. Do you think she could name all of them in any given moment if she saw pictures of all of them? No. Yeah, it's kind of like how Monrest St. Brown could name all the receivers drafted ahead of them.

She could just go off. All of suit. Like, was there a, is there a portrait of a family tree of Susan and all of her children throughout the decades? Susan. The fucking matriarch's name is Susan. Email us at Ringer Fantasy Football. Gmail.com. I know there's stories of the Queens Corgi's being like kind of annoying and bat poorly

behaved dogs and I just want all right. They're like biting people and whatnot. Especially calling upon our British listeners for anything. Ring or Fantasy Football gmail.com. Okay. So Craig gets Garrett Wilson. Oh, and I'm in last. Oh, that's bad. Okay. You pick your next receiver. Craig gets Garrett Wilson from the Jets. With the caveat that Johan Dotson's off the board because he is rostered in 43% of Yahoo Leagues, I am going with Jacobi Myers of the Patriots. who is just one of the most consistent target hogs in the NFL, and yet we ignore him week in and week out, year in and year out. He is the number one receiver for the Patriots.

He had 13 targets, nine catches, 95 yards, his best game. He has a 29% target rate this season, which is top 10 in the NFL pending Monday night football. Yeah, that's it. He doesn't score touchdowns, but if half PBR and PBR, he is a high floor guy, just consistent target hog. Steady, Eddie. He's always above the Mendoza line. absolutely. Yeah, he really is.

So, all right, Sigham Myers, this is annoying. The easy one's probably Josh Palmer for the Chargers, but let's be real here. If Justin Herbert does not end up playing this week, that,

you know, you're just never going to play Josh Palmer if Justin Herbert's not playing. So if Herbert were to play, it's go Josh Palmer. And if it weren't going to be Palmer, dude, I look long and hard at St. I can say Palmer a few more times.

I love how you say, Josh Palmer. It's the same problem. I have the dolphins or golf. from himself. Dallas and Palmer. Palmer. Palmer.

Yeah. All right. Final stuff. Joshua. Sammy Watkins, dude, for the Packers. Just on the off chance.

He's actually good. Now, I'm not going to do it, but I thought about it. I think Sammy, like, is that crazy? I mean,

yeah, he had like the one big play. Sammy's just going to be Sammy, no matter where he is. I know. So, honestly, it's such a difficult list.

Just tricking us every year into picking him up. Because there's Watkins, there's Zay Jones for the, Jaguars, which you can talk yourself into, he's fine. You could grab Ron Del Moore on his way back to the Cardinals. No, he's not even coming back to him.

You're going to get Dorched. You do that. No, dude, Greg Dorch. I'd rather have Greg Dorch than Rondell Moore coming back. Get torched. What about Noah Brown? That's the other guy in the list. Well, I'll do you one better.

Michael Gallup are the Cowboys. Well, he's a stash. He's a stash. There's no way you're playing Michael Galap. Probably coming back next week is what the Jai or what the Cowboys are saying. Well, they're saying he might. But like, no matter what, I don't think you're playing Michael Gallup in his first game back. I would add Gallup as a stash if you want to like put them on if he's somehow available just

throw them you can keep them on your bench if you want just out of desperation. It's not like the, you know, holding onto a Dallas Calvert right now seems super fun. I mean, yeah, Noah Brown. I kind of am into the theory of Noah Brown where it's like he's, you forget that sometimes the sec backup quarterback gets all the reps with these backup receivers so that Cooper Rush and Noah Brown have probably practiced together like 10 times more than Cooper Russian CDLAMA practice together. Chip on the shoulder guys. They're eating breakfast together and whatnot. Yeah, you know, and so Noah Brown, it's like disgusting, but you could be fine. Ashton Doolin for the Colts, as bad as the Colts were, like if Michael Pitman comes back,

I mean, this is real desperate, but like I would probably say Zay Jones, I don't know, Greg Dorch, nor, it's like fine, but like maybe more of a 14 team league thing. Get Dorched. Did you mention Sterling Shepard? He's up, he's on my list. I did not. We could do Sterling Shepard. I would say in a full PPR league.

He had 10 targets. Yeah. So in a full PPR league. He's just not... He leads the giants and targets, yeah. He does. Forever. He's like Jacobi Myers.

They're honestly very similar. He's like the lesser version of Jacobi Myers. He's going to get a ton of targets. They're all very short. It's much more valuable in real life than in fantasy. Hi, Fitz, what's going on with Tony? Is Cadarious Tony going to be a thing this year? Are we just getting the IUC treatment here?

Or is he just like dust? Well... Dust in the wind. I'm buying. Do you know what Brian Dable's coach philosophy is? What he wants in players? what? Smart, tough, dependable.

Hmm. Dependable out the window. Yeah, but you know what? Daibol has spoken highly of Tony. And all the quotes from Tony are like, I don't care how much I play. I don't care if it's one snap or 50 snaps. Like if the team wins the game, that's okay.

Also, when they won on Sunday, Tony was right next to Dayball and he gave him like a fatherly, like, we did this. I do think that Tony... So that tells me he's smart. That tells me he's smart. He knows where his bread is buttered.

I think Tony will probably bring more of an impact as he goes on. Like, I also do think, get used, like, David Sills is going to be a part of this offense. But, like, overall, the Giants are going to have a bad offense. That's the thing. Like, Tony is good and is obviously probably the best player that they have after Sequin on that offense. But I don't envision him getting, like, enough snaps that you're going to put him in and be like, oh, yeah, he's going to crush it this week. It's just, I mean, I know, I am not a believer in Tony this year.

Well, here's a better question. We get a lot of emails from people because we don't really discuss drops. it's too hard because it's too specific. Everybody wants to know if they should drop X player, but it's hard to know that with who's on the waivers and who's not. But if you had to just kind of blanket give an answer here, Hyfitz, would you say Cadarius Tony is easily a drop? Probably not because the whole thing with your bench is you do want, generally speaking.

You kind of do want upside in your bench. Like, for example, people ask about dropping George Pickens. I would not drop George Pickens quite yet. Yeah, you want to shoot for the moon. Yeah. If he's good, like, you want players that, like, okay, if you're going to hold on to someone and it's like if someone gets hurt or they get elevated.

If that happens, you want that person to be awesome, right? So, for example, yeah, I think Pickens or Rashad White's a good one because if something happens to Fournette, if the Steelers make a swap to Kenny Pickett, George Pickens could be incredible. Rashad White could be incredible if Fournette gets hurt. Those are the guys you want to stash. Sonny Michelle is like probably the number two in the charges now. If Austin Neckler gets hurt, how good is Sonny Michelle going to be?

You know what I mean? So with that said, guys you can cut, though. I mean, Cole Commet, you can cut. And I know, I'm sorry for everyone I recommended Cole Commet. I will take bad on that. The Bears have 15 completions in two weeks. The Bears, like literally, the Bears are on pace.

That's the worst stat. Yeah. 15 as a team. So honestly, I don't even think it's Cole Kemp's fault. It's my fault for thinking the Bears would actually get better as an offense. They've actually gotten worse, which was hard to think about.

But in terms of, we can talk about cuts because I do think it's helpful. I think Rex Burk has a cut. Like if you ended up adding him, it's going to be really tough to kind of play him, I think. again, it depends. I think that the Tony conversation to me is so interesting because every year we do this and we get so

short-sighted. It's like every week is the biggest deal. Like every week, oh my God, what do we learn this week? And what can it tell us about the rest of the season? But like, it's such a long season and stuff. Shit changes so quickly. Like, look at what happened with Chase Edmonds and Rahim Moster this week. Like, things happen so quickly in the NFL. So I think my goal this year is trying to overact too much to everything,

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It's like watching Picasso paint. Stumbled on the 4,700 there, but you've saved it. You kept going. Oh, wow. powered through it. Yeah. That was the Lamar Jackson. It won't require editing,

which qualifies it as a clean run. There we go. Amazing. All right, DK., tight end. Who's your number one tight end pick after week two? Man, is it a wasteland?

This is tough. I'm going with Evan Ingram of the Jags. Oh. 26 routes on 31 dropbacks according to PFF. Team high eight targets, seven catches for 46 yards, 27% target eight.

Those are all great numbers for a tight end. He's a former first runner. he has speed. He's the de facto number two receiver, I guess, on this offense. Maybe was Zay Jones, who knows. But there's a couple other, like, lower ceiling guys in here that I could have included. Hold your horses here.

Hold your for one moment. If I told you that Gerald Everett was 57% rostered on Yahoo, but like 30% in ESPN and thus eligible for this. I would go to Gerald Everett above this guy. I'll take Gerald Everett as well. But I think, okay. I would too, but for the purpose of this exercise, that's too large a dispute. I think to qualify him.

Overruled. Overruled. I mean, it's literally what we agreed on anyway. I will just make my one pitch on Gerald Everett, if he's available in your league. The tight ends with the most receiving yards this season are Travis Kelsey, Mark Andrews, Darren Waller, and Gerald Everett. There you go. We were on him. Go get Gerald Everett.

But if he's gone, I also have Evan Ingram as well. Oh, yeah. Oh, I have Hayden Hurst. Yeah, that's a good one. he ran a route on 86% of the team dropbacks in week two. Like he's just like, you know, this is the first round talent who is running routes on almost every single dropback and seeing a lot of, you know,

and this, he's probably seeing a lot of targets because of how teams are defending the Bengals, right? Like Joe Burrow talked about it in the off season, about how, you know, Jamar Chase and Burrow had this connection over the top and Jamar had, you know, more, what do you have, eight touchdowns of 50 or plus yards last year? Like, that is not happening as much this year. And it's perhaps forcing Burrow to pass underneath.

a little bit more and that benefits guys like Hayden Hurst. Yeah. I want to say, Burrow has like, does he have any explosive pass plays this year? If he does, they're like very few. I believe it's zero or one.

Yeah, that's tough. So I like this one too. I cannot picture it, but he had a really ridiculously sick catch this week. I think he had a hurdle. I remember being excited about it. Yeah.

Well, Craig, you said that he was a first round talent and all I think about with Haydenhurst being drafted is that the Ravens took Haydenhurst ahead of Lamar Jackson in the first round. I think about that all the time, because there's a point where as much as you want to give credit to people for envisioning a Lamar offense, if the Ravens actually envisioned any of Lamar's success,

they would have taken him. They would have fucking taken him ahead of a tight end, right? Yes. Like, there's no chance they actually thought he'd be an NFL MVP. They took Mark Andrews in that draft, too, didn't they? Oh, I think you're right. All you can do is give the Ravens like 1% more credit than all the other teams for taking him. I mean, no, they traded back and got him.

It's like a head nod. Maybe they're just thinking, well, no one else is going to take him except us. But if you actually think it was an MVP quarterback just sitting here, it's like, I don't know. It just blows my mind. Yeah. I don't know. It's a great story. All right.

So I get to read the trivia for you two for, who was it? Evan Ingram. Evan Ingram. God, Hyphen. Not a great sign that you already forgot. I've never been fighting over Evan Ingram. I know. I really, I'm so mad about Evan Ingram.

I can't believe you're here now, Hyphitz. You're doing an Evan Ingram showdown time. He got eight targets. And that came, as DECA said, he got eight targets. He's getting a lot of targets, but in a game where the Jaguars were even throwing that much

because they were just trying to win. Yeah. I mean, because they were winning the whole game. Okay, it is. The Evan Ingram. Hands up, Hyfitz. Get him up.

Showdown time. What are the hands for? All right. God damn it, Hyfitts. I don't know what to do with my hands. By into the bit, all right. Obviously, I feel like an idiot doing that.

We decided that a year and a half ago and now I'm still doing it. I'm going to be 30 years old one day shouting showdown time um all right here's the question is from tyler this is for evan ingram on waivers what is the shoe size of the statue of liberty that's pretty good oh man lady liberty i think how tall the statue of liberty is uh oh my god what is the shoe size Yeah. One billion.

Oh my God. In the UK measurements or American? I'm not sure. We're going to go to America. Obviously. France, because they sent it over. Yeah. Wait, I'm going to make sure that I don't want one of you to anchor the other one.

So I'm going to have you both say the answer at the same time. Wait, wait. Now I have to ask a stupid question of how shoe sizes work. What does that mean? I don't think you can get these answers. I think you just need to guess. Oh, my God. Okay.

This is too much context. All right. I'm going to go. All right. I'm ready. DK, you ready? Yeah. All right.

Three, two, one. Eight thousand. 20,000. I said 20,000. You guys are way too high. Really? Fuck. Every time, man.

High fits one. It is 879. Come on. That's it. Not even close. 20,000. Why are we so bad? Is it?

I haven't been to Statuary of Liberty. Is it not as big as you think? It's pretty fucking big. I don't know I love these questions How big is the shoe size Of the Empire State building Like how the fuck am I supposed to know that

What's the stepbrothers line Are clownfish big? Benita fish Are Benita fish big? What's this guy's deal? The Statue of Liberty is 305 feet tall Jesus

So it's a football field Like exactly Yeah Almost Size 8709 shoe Can I give you a take that I've never actually said before? It's the football fields aren't that big. Like they're huge.

But then every time I play golf, I'm like, oh yeah, pitching wedge. Like, you know, a football field away. And I'm like, what? I can just hate my pitching wedge from end zone to end zone. That doesn't make sense to me. I don't, you're totally right. Sometimes I, I like get my brain twisted when I'm golfing because I'm like, oh, like I'm like, I'm like, a hundred out from the green.

And I'm like, that must mean 100 feet because there's no way it's 100 yards. That's a football field. And I'm like, oh, it is 100 yards. That is odd. Yeah. If you could, if you just like, if I later in life I learned that all the yardage is in golf for a lie, I'd be like, okay, that makes more sense. I'd believe it.

Everything in golf is all weird and made up. Okay, so I get Evan Engram. So, Dekai, you have to pick somebody else. I can't believe I won Evan Engram. And I get Hayden Hurst. I should do it for the brand and for the bit and take Tyler Conklin, but I'm going with Logan Thomas of the commanders. He got three more passes for 45 yards.

He's starting to ramp up his snaps because he's coming off of a major knee injury. he played a little bit more in this last game than he did in week one he is a he is very good at attracting targets in the middle of field like when he's out there so um i mean he's done it in the past he's been a high-volume guy this offense is throwing a lot more and has a little bit more umph than you think with carcin went underneath uh center so yeah i'm going with looking thomas i had them too and conklin that was pretty much my top four conklin leads all tight ends and routes run baby i saw that and i was i was waiting for my come up and sir i will admit last week my i was

basically like Joe Flacko through 60 passes. So what's going to happen when he doesn't? And you know what? He threw like 45 passes this week. Tyler Conklin has, he's second on the team in targets this year. Yeah. If the Jets are like three and one with Flacco, do they bring Zach Wilson back? Oh man, I can't wait for that.

It would be pretty incredible if they did not bring Zach Wilson back. I mean, it's... They're bringing him back. They're going to bring it back because they have to. All right. So we did quarterback. So we just go to defenses real quick here. there's some pretty tasty ones

probably not as many as last week but I mean the one that leaps off the page is I mean the chiefs are playing the cults the cults just got shut out obviously Michael Pittman was out but I mean I feel like the chief's defense versus the cults is kind of tasty this one is so we're at the risk of doing this

on Monday and the Eagles haven't played yet the Eagles defense playing Washington one just like if you ever want skin in the game for a random game the Eagles playing Carson Wentz is just funny and I kind of think that that's just like if you've ever wanted a defense like that's that just like for the bit do that and I've never in my life recommended this defense but dude the Houston Texans defense is playing the Chicago Bears I can't the Bears are impossibly bad man 15 completions and again I know that they also played in the monsoon in week one that we're going to wipe off our slate of talking about Tray Lance but I mean last night how many completions do the Bears have on Sunday 7 7 7 like that was not not a monsoon. That was an NFL team. Seven completions. So I think the Texas defense is totally

viable against the Bears. Justin Fields had more completions in the monsoon than he did last night. Dude, the bears are horrible. It's depressing. But I co-signed that. You could also take, I mean, I don't know how you feel about Daniel Jones, but Dallas is playing the Giants. I mean, I think we, I think we know how he feels about Daniel Jones. Yeah, I don't, I don't feel anything anymore. No, The Dallas defense is obviously pretty solid with Michael Parsons. There's always a chance that you're going to get the pick sex or whatever from Trayvon Diggs. They're strip sack from Parsons. It's pretty legit.

What is it that you explained it like? He plays like he's wearing blinders. Daniel Jones? How does he not have any peripheral vision? Daniel Jones, yeah. Sorry, I was stuck on Daniel Jones. Oh, man. So he doesn't turn the ball over as much.

I used to describe him. I was worried for him when he crossed the street. Yeah, that's right. I was like just living in New York City and I'm just like, man, I wonder how that's going from. This is a recipe for disaster. Don't let him go to fucking England because then you have to look the other direction It's like roaming around in the subway

And they're like, Daniel Oh, I can just picture that They have to decide a coach Like you know the coach that keeps the coach From getting on the field They need someone like that for Daniel Jones crossing the street A hold me back coach

He has a golden retriever That like walks him around Like a seeing eye dog But he has sight Oh no Daniel, Daniel, Dale Wait wait wait Oh, God. It's pretty good.

By the way, real quick on Daniel Jones before we move on. Can they stop running him? They need to stop having him do like quarterback keepers. He looks like an injured fawn out there. Every time he runs, I'm afraid he's going to get his four vertebra on his back broken. I mean, not to say that the Giants want anybody to get hurt

because they don't, but like, it's a win-win. God, dude. I mean, the Giants will be better when Tyraud Taylor takes over the job. That would be like poetic, justice to get him in there and actually play well because he got, because he's been benched for getting hurt so many times in his career. Tyrod should hire the Chargers doctor to the Giants and then he can work on. He'll drop his suit.

He'll drop his suit if he moves teams to the Giants. Right. He injures Daniel Jones. It's kind of like a full circle thing. I do think the Giants will be better with Tyra Taylor. All right. That's, that's where we are here. You want to do, you want to do a fantasy court? You want to say it for Wednesday? No, let's do it. Oh, Rod. It's from Dan.

Dan. I'm dealing with an unconscionable decision in my guillotine. Yeah. Okay, I can't speak English. Guillotine. Well, it's French. Yeah. Fiosco.

Guillotine league to say. Guilotine. Yeah, for those who don't know what a guillotine, guillotine, whatever is, we have 20 teams and we just do auto draft at the beginning of the season. And then we wake up when our team just exists. Psychopaths. I know. And then with the 20 teams, our waivers are a cemetery and the rosters have players like probably

won't ever see the field. Like last year's quarterback, the second quarterback was like Gardner-Michu. So every year they start with like a $200 budget for, so free agent auction money. And then every team, every week, those team with the least points gets dropped. And they're out of the league and their whole roster is subject to waivers. So every team is just eliminated every week or one team's eliminated every week. However, this year, a commissioner forgot to change the default amount of free agent money from $100 to $200 to, like every year they play with $200. And this year the commissioner just forgot and it's $100.

So then week one waivers cleared and someone spent $86 in Jonathan Taylor knowing like, oh, I guess we'll play the $100 this year. And then the commissioner a week later was like, actually, I'm going to bump it to $200. And so they're all mad because Zeke Elliott went for like $15. And they're like, but now that's half the amount. Like a guy got Jonathan Taylor for the half the amount. So Dan asks, we have three choices now. Do we up the budget to $200 and just let someone just get away with Jonathan Taylor for

less than half their budget? do we double everyone's remaining budget after the week one bids so if nobody spent any money they have 200 the jonathan taylor dude instead of getting eight basically spent on 172 so he's got like 38 left basically or do we just keep the budget's at 100 and we don't do with any of this and we just keep it how it was keep it at 100 yeah ackham's razor simplest simplest simplest thing by far because then nobody gets screwed you can't change shit in the middle of season like that's no i mean a written rule it's an unwritten rule and written rule. You can't change the settings in the middle of the season.

Make the commissioner shotgun a beer and call it a day. There you go. I love the concept of this league. You know what I love about it is we always love Bill Simmons in this league every year where there's 11 people in the league. But then they show up or 13 and then 13 people show up

and then the winner just kicks someone out at the draft and just don't play. Yeah, it is a, it's a beautiful idea. Just making 13 people show up and you truly have no idea if you're not going to get to play fantasy football. And you're prepping. You're one out of 12 odds.

So it's like you're prepping like you're like and you're just like, oh, you're done. And like the executioner gets to give it like of this long speech and then just point to you and be like, get out. And then you just have to get up and go home. Did you guys know? So did you guys know the etymology of the term decimate? They're decimating. Yeah. Decimate was like a way for the Roman legions to keep their troops in order.

And if there was like some, someone was trying to like, you know, rebel against. the leaders or whatever, they would choose some division and decimate it. In other words, they'd kill one of the out of every ten guys to keep people in mind. Oh my God. Yeah. They're decimating this league. I know D.K.'s a father because he just reads about Roman armies now. Well, I just think it's funny how we throw around the term decimate.

It's a very morbid term. I mean, we say like, I think the Jets are going to murder the Texans. You know where the term murder comes from? It's from killing someone, Craig. What? I always get freaked out when people use the term curb stomping like normal language. That's a bad one. And like, people just throw that around sometimes.

Craig used the term the canary and the coal mine yesterday, I think. And I was like, hmm, that's an interesting one. Oh, we could go down the wormhole here. A lot of terms are made, you know, things. Well, sure. A lot of terms do mean things. Tough. Oh, my God.

Okay. All right. I think that's all we got. let's go out of here before something bad happens. The Traylands thing would have been funny. I'm still mad at you guys. All right. Thank you, Craig.

Thank you, Kai, for chilling sitting in in this. Thank you, Lauren. Lauren. Thank you, Bob Marley. Ooh. I don't think you've done Bob Marley. I hope that person who is keeping track of all of DK's band choices is still doing that.

Because I have a feeling we've gone fully off the rails and he's said names and bands. Many times. Yeah, you'd think that we'd be doing that, right? The whole point is just to chat. about a musician for a couple minutes. Haifitz, who played the, who's the artist behind the queen's song? I should have shouted them out.

I don't know, Beethoven. It's like a orchestra of some sort. I don't know. D.K., are you a Bob Marley fan? Do you frequently listen to Bob Marley? I don't know about frequently, but yeah, they love Bob Marley. Who doesn't like Bob Marley? Yeah.

Bob Marley, for some reason, my middle school graduation, every year they always played Bob Marley as like the graduation music. it was like jamming. Yeah, it was always like a Bob Marley song was playing when we walked, I remember. Good vibes. Definitely. Well, so he said always,

how many times did you graduate high school? Well, no, it was middle school, but I would go to like my brothers and then like when you're a seventh grader, you would go to like eighth grade graduation that day and like say goodbye to the grade above you. So I've been there a couple times. Is that weird?

Did you go to middle school where it was, or sorry, did you go to high school where it was four years or three years? Four, freshman, sophomore, junior senior. It blows my mind that like half the kind of country has a three-year high school experience. I totally knew that. Well, and some people, sixth grade is not middle school. High Fitz, you didn't know that? Some people do middle school 7-8-9. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. My middle school was 6-7-8. Yeah, same here. That's normal.

I'm saying some, like a lot of high schools in this country are literally just sophomore, junior, senior. By the way, do you know how I looked up how long the sandals were, are that the Sature of Liberty was? Okay, so how long do you think a size 879 shoe is? Craig, how the, do you think I'm going to know after my guess? Like 9, like 1,000 feet? 20,000 feet.

How long the shoe is on this? You think it's a 20,000 foot shoe? Oh, no, that doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense. 100. I don't know. I don't know, man. I don't know.

Clearly. A hundred feet. 35 feet. This just takes me back to the time. tried to guess how tall a tree was. Like, we don't fucking know. Or I think the worst one of all time was how heavy is a cloud? That's the best question.

I was like, I don't know, a hundred pounds? And it was like one billion. That was easily the best question we've ever gotten. How much is the average cloud way? Isn't it a million pounds? It was a lot. And we were like, what the fuck? This doesn't make any sense.

Well, you know why? The best part was... Why is it floating? D.K. was like seven pounds. and Craig was like one. And he's like, shit, I'm way too high. Meanwhile, it's a mile long. If you look up how much is a cloud weight,

it says about 1,400 million pounds. You know what? I don't know anything about physics. That's wrong. It doesn't weigh a billion pounds. Yeah, I agree, Craig. I'm making it stand. There's no way that makes sense.

How is it floating? Nope. Explain that. Do your own research. Oh, my God. All right. Goodbye, everyone.