The Ringer NFL Show - Waiver Wire Targets for Week 4

Episode Date: September 27, 2022

We run through the injuries from Week 3 and offer up our must-add players for Week 4 with our favorite format, Showdown Time. (01:30) - RB Streamers (11:39) - WR Targets (27:48) - TE Targets (36:27) - QB Targets (38:54) - DEF Streamers Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's up, everybody. I'm Brian Barrett, former Boston Sports Radio Guy, and now host of the new Ringer show Off the Pike that'll cover your favorite Boston teams and stories. From Fenway to Foxborough to The Garden and Beyond, we're reacting to all the biggest games and moments with episodes at least three times a week featuring myself and some of your favorite guests at the ringer and in the city. Plus, if the Celtics or the Pats make a surprise trade, if the Red Sox's going to run, or if any news breaks, we'll drop bonus instant reaction episode. two, so you're always up to date with the latest chatter. Get in on the action and follow off the bike with me, Brian Barrett, now on Spotify. My name is Danny Hyfitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck. We are going through our must-add players after week three.

Here's how it works. It's really simple. We all simulate your waiver process. We go through each position. We give our top pick at each position. But only one of us gets them. And so when we pick the same person, we do trivia. It's a tiebreaker. You'll get it if you haven't seen it before.

It's really easy. We're going to go through them. you like the trivia part, emails at ringerfantasy football at gmail.com. You can send us more trivia. Remember, we kind of need number of related things. Whatever you float your boat your boat. Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com to emails trivia.

With all that said, let's just get right to it. Yeah. Running back. I feel like this sounds really easy. DK., who's your number one running back must add after week three? I'm going with Khalil Herbert for the Bears who there's a little discrepancy between the different platform. So on Yahoo, I believe he's rostered

49% of leagues, but ESPN, just 25% of league. So what they do it over there at ESPN? There's a discrepancy. I don't know what's going on. Whatever you got, platform you're on. I mean, I have Cleo Herbert number one too, Craig, I assume. I do. Yeah.

I guess the only other caveat I would say is if Jamal Williams is out there, I probably would put him in the same tier. I don't know. Where do you rank Jamal Williams versus Herbert? Well, I would rank him, I mean, do you know where Jamal Williams ranks right now, among all running backs and fantasy points? Six, top eight.

Yeah. Yeah, six. So like, I mean, yeah, add him too. Like literally, if they're both to get both of them. I probably prioritize Williams just because he's going to have this role indefinitely. Plus, Downjoy Swift is hurt right now. Yeah. Yeah, you have to.

If Jamal Williams is out there, you have to add Jamal Williams. I feel like he's probably less likely to be out there. But yeah, add Jamal Williams first, but he's below or he's above our threshold for this exercise. But Jamal Williams is like the graduated number one. But we all chose Khalil Herbert as our number one. So little tribute. I mean, this one's easy, right? David Montgomery's hurt.

Yeah, he ran it 20 times for 160 yards, two touchdowns. He was the number one running back this week. What else he needed to say? You know, he's the RB7? Kalil Herbert's the RB7 on the season. What? Because of this huge-ass week. That's how bleak running back is.

You know what? I'm glad everyone comes to this podcast for that cutting-edge analysis. You know the guy who beat everyone else last year? Just add him. But not last week. I can't even speak English. All right. Trivia showdown for Kalil-Iraber.

Yeah. All right. Hi, Bitz, before I do it, are you going to put your hands up? Are you going to put your hands up there? Like, you just don't care. I know, but I want to create energy. I don't want to just be the only guy screaming. I want to see it.

All right, ready? This is the Killeel Herbert. Yeah, he's got his hands up. Showdown time. He looks like he's never put his hands up before in his life. I don't know what to do. It looks like Ricky Bobby after the race. Like, uh.

I don't know what to do with my heads. We got a crazy one from Wilson. Wilson. Wilson, from the start of last off season to the Super Bowl, how many times was Mike Davis, how many times was Mike Davis mentioned on this podcast? How does he know that, first of all? He went through and counted all of them, which is crazy.

Like he grabbed the transcripts? He sent a spreadsheet of every time. Wow. Holy hell. That is dedication right there. Good for you, Wilson. You're a premium customer. You're like on, you're a VIP.

Welcome. So what was the timeline again, Hypitz? Start of last year. The start of left off season, I don't know what that means. The start of left off season to the Super Bowl. A year. A year. Let's go with a year.

So, High Fitz talked about him a lot. He must have been burned. High Fitz, you're on this guy's to kill list, for sure. Probably. Like, you burned him badly with this Mike Davis thing. So we went back and counted the number of times that you mentioned Mike Davis. I'm going to say 60. Yeah.

I'm going to say 100. My gut was originally 75. Wow, there we go. my god, that's disgusting. It's 350. Oh, my God. That's a ridiculous amount of time. Wow, that's so many times. I'm sorry to everyone one last time. Wow. 350 times? Okay, so who said what? I don't ever know. D.K., you said 100? I said 100, so I won. So you win, so you get Khalil Herbert and then, Craig, you said 75? Yeah. So you get your number two pick. And again, Jamal Williams is not in this exercise. So if

Khalil Herbert's gone, who do you take? They're running back. Are we allowing Madison, Alexander Madison to be included? Yes, we, yeah. Okay, he's 37% percent. Yeah, he's 37% rostered in ESPN. He's 55 in Yahoo. So if I get him, I will take him. Dalvin Cook has an injury.

He's battling a shoulder injury. I saw, is it shoulder or wrist? Because I saw both reports. It's like everything. He was grabbing his wrist, but I think that people thought that men are wrist injury, but it really is because his shoulder. But he is shoulder issues. So he's expected, I saw it today that he's

expected to wear a brace and play in week four, according to pro football talk against the States. But, you know, with Dalvin Cook, I mean, he's as likely to leave midgame as anybody. And even if he plays the whole game, I imagine they're going to be working on Alexander Madison more. I think Madison is a great, he's obviously a great ad for like the rest of the season. He's, he's one of those handcuffs where if you have him on your team, I wouldn't drop him the entire year just because he's so valuable if Dalton ever goes down. But I do think there is a chance that this week specifically, if you're just worried about week four, that he will get enough run, even if Dalvin plays that he could be a viable flex play above that Amendoza line

that we kind of talk about. Alex Madison replaced Dalvin Cook four times last year, like he started four games, and he was top 13 every single week that he did it. So you have to just try and get him just in case either Dalvin's ginger gets worse or whatever. So I get the short stick because Jamal Williams is gone, Khalil Herbert's gone, Alex Madison's gone. Those are by far the best. Easily the obvious one. Easily the obvious ones and now I just get absolutely screwed. So I guess I'll start

oh god this sucks if I had to go with someone this week there's really only two dudes I mean there's Samajai Piron for the Bengals who Joe Mixon kind of has a tweaked ankle and they're playing Thursday so if in any world we're recording this Monday if anything between now and Thursday where anything happens with Joe Mixon's ankle's

worse I mean Samajai Piron maybe could get you know maybe he ends up getting half the carriers of the Bengals I mean, whatever. I hate to say it. I think if you're in a flex pinch, I mean, Rex Burkhead would do. I mean, I hate to say it, but like Damian Pierce, who, you know, is beloved on the spot.

He matured, as Craig really creepily said last week, really off-putting. But he did, though. I'm just saying, that aged well. But the Texans are, literally and singularatively. But the Texans are like using him as a traditional running back, but the Texans also had an easy schedule.

They're playing terrible teams. They're playing the Bears. The Texans are going to get to the stomped part of their schedule. They're going to keep getting wrecked. Rex Burkhead is getting all the passing down situations like any second and longs, third in longs. That's all Rex Burkhead. So when the Texans, you know, the universe nature begins to heal and the Texans go back

to losing a lot, I feel like Rex Burkhead will be the completely serviceable nine-ish, 12ish points in a PPR league and it'll be fine and it's you know you just might vomit a little looking at it but he can get the job done so I guess I'll go with Rex Burkett Did you have JD McKissick on your list?

I feel like he's he's a I would rather have McKissick over Burkett at this point yeah McKissick is second in the NFL among running backs and catches and they're playing Dallas you know they're all commanders much like the Texans are just always in negative game scripts

I think spiritually JD McKissick and Rex are the same it's kind of the same vibe Same role. Yes. Burkheads has the six highest route rate targets per route among running backs. So it's like, they're kind of the same guy. Can I throw one more that I was thinking about? Jerich McKinnon is 7% rostered in Yahoo Leagues.

He has not put up huge numbers. He's put up six, eight and two points. But they're playing the buck Sunday night. It could be like a checkdown game from the Holmes who wants to get the ball out early against that pass rush. But McKinnon is playing a lot. And as a Clyde manager, somebody who's Clyde on their team, me, I recognize that. And I'm very aware how much McKinnon is on the field. And it's a ton.

He's actually played 30 more snaps than Clyde this season. And he's run more routes. So I think that the pendulum is going to kind of swing back towards McKinnon over the next few weeks because it's really – Clyde's been getting lucky. I mean, he had seven carries for zero yards this week in a touchdown. That's a rare thing. Yeah, zero yards of a touchdown. I think McKinnon, who's pretty much playing even snaps with Clyde, actually more so,

is kind of decent ad for the next few weeks. See how it kind of shapes out? I think that's a good call. McKinnon, yeah, if you're watching the Chiefs, McKinnon looks better than in any of his numbers would say. Like, he's playing well. Like, I don't know how he has so much juice. He missed, like, felt like two full seasons with injuries,

but he just kind of looks explosive. And yeah, every time you want Clyde and it's him. I think I like, this is crazy to say, maybe I'm wrong, but I just kind of like Burkhead more than McKissick. I feel like McKissick played a lot this week because the Eagles were up. Was it 24-0 at halftime? And so the whole second half, it was McKissick was just, you know, dumped, dump off.

I don't think Carson Wentz's natural state of order is checkdowns to J.D. McHissick. So, I mean, Washington's playing Dallas next week. I mean, it's Monday. We have not seen the Cowboys play the Giants. I assume the Cowboys beat the Giants. But I feel like the Cowboys aren't jumping to a 20-0 lead on Washington next week. But again, at this point, if you're actually debating, which of these guys do pluck off waivers and insert in your lineup, you're already pretty down bad. So, I mean, you know, it's more like, ask God for help on this one more than else.

The running back group this week in particular after after the main guys, Herbert, Madison and Williams is it's bad, it's bad. And if you don't need immediate help but you want to stash, there's two guys that would throw, Brian Robinson, we keep saying him, but if you have an IR spot or whatever, he's allowed to come back after week four, four week five, after week five.

I think he's after week four, he can come back. Yeah, so Brian Robinson got shot. Don't understand how he's going to play football, but apparently he is. And it's kind of like, I don't know if he's going to come back and immediately take this job. But if he is and you have an IR spot, I don't know, let him be on your IR spot when you find out instead of, you know, waivers. Because if he's good, just he'll already be on your team. And then the other one's just Jalen Warren for the Steelers.

Kind of like even by Thursday at football standards, just an ugly game on Thursday. Jalen Warren look good for the Steelers, man. And Najee Harris has this foot injury. If anything happens, Najee, Jailen Warren looks like you'd be super capable, like everyone else in that offense except Trimisky. Receivers. Who's your number one receiver target after week three? This one's tough. It came down to a number of different guys.

I want to throw out a few that I eliminated based on the criteria that we have in place. Russell Gage for the Buccaneers, who was just over the criteria limit 40% on Yahoo. And then Traylon Burks for the Titans, who, again, was just over the limit. I want to mention those two guys, because if those guys are out there, I probably prioritize both of them before the guy that I'm going to say next. And that guy is Zay Jones for the Jags. 11 targets, 10 catches, 85 yards, and touchdown this last week.

He's second on the team in targets this year and yards, 173 yards, most catches on the team. He's leading the Jags catches. He has a 22.6% target rate, and it's continuing to go up. He had 30% target rate this last week. So, I don't know. I think I chose Jones over a number of guys that were very, very close, sort of like in my priority list here. Who else were? Who were you deciding between?

I wanted everybody to get Dorched. Greg Dorch this week, I think, is a good option. He's right now in PPR. He's the wide receiver 18. Crazy. That is kind of a bonkers stat. The only reason I didn't have him above is because when Rondale Moore comes back, it muddies the water, and I'm not 100% sure he's going to play long term.

So basically, if you need a guy this week, Dorch is a good, he's a good option. Rondale Morecambe is back, and he might take Dorch's spot in the lineup. I don't really know. Or they might rotate and just like it all go to hell. Zay Jones, I think, has a spot in this lineup and could be a flex guy the rest of the year. So that's kind of why I prioritize Jones just a little bit. And then the other guy I was going to mention is Romeo Dubs for the Packers, who had a really good game this last week.

There's a lot of injuries in the Packers' offense right now, especially at the receiver position. So that could be volatile, but he looked really good and he could see his role expand as the Eurozone. Remember when we had that conversation that we figured out whether it was Romeo Dobbs or Romeo Dubs? It's Dubs. It's Dubs.

Yeah, what did we decide? It's Dubs. It's Dobbs? Yeah. Okay. Because it looks like Dubs, and it's not when. it looks like.

It looks like d'obes. Dobbs. Anyways, it's Dobbs. I said it wrong. Yeah, it's Dobbs. I actually put Romeo Dobbs. Sammy Watkins went to IR. Christian Watson, the rookie, was out with a hammy injury, and Dobbs looked pretty good.

He had eight catches on eight targets, 73 yards, touchdown. More importantly, he ran around on 94% of offensive plays, which is an extremely high number. They play the bucks next week. Even if Watson comes back, Kristen Watson, the rookie. They played the bucks this week. Oh, sorry. They play the Patriots next week. Like I said, even if Watson comes back.

Like, it's Randall Cobb, it's Dobbs, and it's Watson. And like, Dobbs looks good. I mean, he obviously looked good all preseason. Yeah, he was the training camp star. Right. He obviously got the run this week and it worked out. So, like, I'll still take it. I know Lazard is there still, but I'll get the number three guy fighting for the number two spot in Green Bay.

These were my two top two guys as well for receiver. I think that they offered different things. Zay Jones for Jaguars. and Romeo Dobs. God, how am I? I knew it was Dobbs, and now DECAs

me saying, Dubs. Brain warm, I got you. I'm proud of yourself. What was I saying? Okay, so, yeah, as you said,

Zay Jones is leading the category and everything. I think Zay Jones is more consistency and Romeo Dobbs is more upside. Like, right. Zay Jones, here's the thing with the Jaguars.

They're always playing three receiver sets, and then I'm really subbing guys out. They don't have some fourth receiver rotating, like the Chiefs. They got like, you know, obviously Kelsey, but like there's juju and Miko and Miko and Marcus Lensens

Scantling. in like a little sky more, and then they'll have like three tight ends. Justin Watson. Yeah, the Jaggers don't do that. The Jaguars are just like, this is what we do, and these are the people who do it.

It's just like, if you have a store around the corner, it's like there's two cashiers, it's like one of those two people. That's kind of the Jaguars. It's always those people. And Sage Jones has been really successful, even though the Jaguars have actually been running it a lot because they've been winning in these gains.

They're stomping the chargers, and they're running the ball in the second half. Like, the Jaguars having the start has actually been, there's actually probably more passing in Trevor Lawrence's future than there's already been which is kind of funny to think about but I think Zay Jones has been really solid, consistent

like he's just gonna get you that flex. So if you just were like, you know what, give me like nine points money in the bank. I'm fine. Like I just let me survive. Dude, he signed a three year $24 million contract in soft. He's good. The flip side, I think

I think I would add Romeo Dobbs which is a much more high variance option. Romeo Dobbs, I think, is a lot more likely to get you like two points and you just smack yourself in the face. But the upside is there of him becoming the guy in Green Bay. Exactly. Dobbs is the upside.

I guess I would put it this way. Green Bay has made a, what all of us, the polite word is peculiar, the, or some would say, a cluster fuck of a decision to let Devante Adams go and just be like, you know, Sammy Watkins and Christian Watson and Romeo Dubs, they'll just figure all this out. Alan Dazard, Rogers will just make this work.

Now, Sammy Watkins is on IR, as Craig said, if Romeo Dobbs does in fact rise to the level that it's possible. And Aaron Rogers said that he has gotten a rapport with him in training camp, and Romeo Dabbs has done things that Roger said, only players in the Packers, like top 10 all-time receiving yards has done, which he does not just hand out the criticism, or sorry, praise. I just, if Dobbs becomes that guy, it needs to be on my team. The other thing that's interesting about how they utilized Dobbs this last weekend was it was basically a bunch of low A-dot stuff. They were scheming up ways to get him to football

and he did a lot with it. I'm trying to find his A-DOT here. I mean, he only had- Average depth of the target for people who aren't nerds on the internet. Yeah, sorry, he had, he only had 25 air yards in this game. Like they were getting him looks close to the line of scrimmage,

letting him do stuff afterwards. But the weird thing is, and the cool thing is that could potentially make him even more interesting down the line is he was like a deep threat in college. And in the preseason, they were getting a lot, he was getting a lot of love for just like making a big play down the field every practice, basically. And so I think there's a lot of meat on the bone for him to, you know, expand on what he did in this last game too. So, yeah, I'm definitely kind of excited about Dobbs. I think maybe you guys talk to me into it. I think I'd put him first. Oh, yeah, you're going to go to dogs.

Oh, wow. I mean, I feel like in the offseason, we were trying to figure out who the Packers guy was going to be. I was big on Alan Lazard, but there's just been too many injuries. I feel like we still don't know when somebody is still going to emerge,

but we just haven't had all the people healthy enough yet to where it was just whoever was healthy that week happened to be the guy with the most yards, we haven't really had all of them playing together. And if Watkins is now out for, you know, at least four weeks, and who knows what's going on with Christian Watson and his hamstring, like, Dobbs is going to have a lengthy opportunity here to actually, like, step up and be the guy.

Yeah. Okay, so we're all going with Dubs. Okay, so we'll do it. Dobbs. All right. It is the Romeo Dubs-Dubs-Dobbs showdown time. Hifitz did not even like, it didn't register at all. I'm looking at a trivia question.

He's looking at the answer to the trivia question, D.K.? Yeah, I'm looking at the answers. How old is we going to get it right and come in third? Oh, man. It's a good one. No sports one. All right. This is a great one.

This is from Seth. Seth. We've gotten this one before. I don't remember the answer, and if you do go for it. How many years was the 100 years war? Ah, shit. So, how many years was the 100 years war?

Is this like, in Jeopardy, in Jeopardy, they have like the stupid answers or whatever category, whatever it is, dumb answers, where it's like literally the answer would be 100. But I don't think that's this. It's not 100 years. Is it called the 100-year war or the 100-years war?

100. I think that's Samantha. Is that really going to influence your answer? Just tell us what it is. What's the official name? I'd like to know the name of the war before I make my guess. The 100-years war. Plural.

Okay. 100-years war. Because I think if it was the 100-year war, I could see it being like 109. But 100-year wars now, to me, it's a wider range. Two or 300 years long. I'm just going to go with like 185 Are you think they're rounding up

To 200 And it's like a plural of 100 years Like multiple hundred years? I'm just saying 185 years I don't know I have no idea Oh I kind of thought they were rounding Like it was 103

I'm gonna go with 103 Okay Oh my God I'm just gonna say 100 Stupid answers He literally I was already told you It's not 100

I literally said that Well my price is writing you So Okay So your price is writing me to get 101 and one oh, okay, whatever. No, what if it's less than 100? Idiot? 116 years.

Okay. Oh, right. That wasn't as like weird as I thought it was going to be. Yeah, I don't know if that warrants the question, but okay. Oh, no? I mean, it's like, yeah, it was over 100 years, so that makes sense. They just didn't want to call it the 116 year one. It's a very logical answer.

Yeah. All right. Have it's, tell us what you know about the 100 years wore. Well, it was between England and France. Okay. And is that what led to the Treaty of Westphalia? No idea. Was that a different war?

Is that like a camper van car that you can take into the woods and sets into a tent? The Treaty of Westphalia? The Treaty of Westphalia is super important. That's what ended, I mean, that's what created the modern world. That's what led to nation states. Really? You ever see that Monty Python sketch? but the 100 years war? It's pretty incredible.

You lorry's in it. It's amazing. Hyphid's sneaky knows more about history to DK. That's definitely false. I don't know. D.K. is like, don't step on my dad corner. No, I literally, it's just objectively false. I don't know. I feel like Hyvitz has always pointed out a lot of history nuggets. Step your game up, D.K.

All right. Okay, so I get Romeo Dobbs. So, D.K., history guy. Nice. Are you going to take Zay Jones? Yeah, I'll stick with Zay Jones. I'm going to go with... And I'm only going to do this because I got two guys.

If you're playing for next week, I would take Marquez Valdo scaling. I know that he hasn't really done a lot, but he has seven targets in each of the last two games. And he's playing a ton. Mahomes missed him on a long pass this week. So I still think it's coming. He's like always on the field. And to me, it's like, if I can get a guy who's always on the field with Patrick Mahomes, and no other receiver has really captured that kind of lead role yet, I like MVS.

He's 34% rostered in Yahoo. The other guy, man, I just, just for. long term, George Pickens, he's 40% on Yahoo. You know, it's like, Trubisky's not going to be the quarterback forever. And I personally feel that they should start. They have to start Kenny Pickett this week. Or it's going to be a disaster.

Because have you looked at the Steelers schedule for the next like 10 weeks? It is, I think, the hardest schedule in football. They play the Jets this week. Here it is after the Jets. They play. In order. The Bills, the Bucks, the Dolphins, the Eagles,

the Saints, the Bengals, and then the Colts. Geez. They're going to be like two and eight, for sure. They're going to lose all those games. So do you want them to wait to start picket, though? No. Are you a little bit worried? I don't, because I don't think you can plop them in against the bucks or the Eagles.

You got to play them right now against the Jets. Like, have him play a game against an average, yes. Do you want to feed him to the wolves behind this horrible offensive line and stunked his development for a team that ultimately is not going to go anywhere anyway? I just think I'd rather have him play 13 games this year that, five. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I was watching, I went back and I was watching Jordan Addison, who was his top receiver

last year, who is now playing for USC and he's going to be one of the top receivers in the draft this next year. And it just got me so excited for fucking picket to actually be a starter this year. Dude, Trubisky is just, he's so bad. He's so bad. They cannot win with him.

They have so much talent at receiver. They need to try something else. They also have so much talent, full stop. Like, if the Steelers is something in the interest. Would you play Pickens if Chubisky's still the starter? Because I agree with you, the pickens is obvious. I mean, the catch on Thursday night is probably going to be and will remain the catch of the year that Pekins made. Yeah, I mean, it's, again, I don't, I don't know. I mean, they're playing the Jets, so there's a chance that he has his best game so far,

which isn't really saying much. I mean, he hasn't had more than seven targets in a game. I just know he's extremely talented. He plays about three-fourths of the snaps. But if the Steelers have any interest in trying to sniff a playoff spot or go over 500 this year, to me, they need to put in Kenny Pickett sooner rather than later. Picketts plays like 97% of snaps. He's like, he's in there like every play. Oh, I thought it was like under a little under 80, but maybe I misread that.

Let me double check my math here, but, uh, I thought that I'd seen, like he's basically just running wind sprints, like all season. Um, and it's just got to be so frustrating for him to,

let's see here, his snap rate. Yeah, you're right. 74%. I don't know where I got 90. I mean, that's still not bad though,

but man, he's just like, might be the most talented receiver on the Steelers. Maybe like in the AFC North. So, I don't know. It's a good thing to have a guy that talented on your team, I think, while you still can't. Other receivers include Devonte Parker for the Patriots who had, like, the best game. He's had in quite some time.

I can't play if Craig didn't bring this up already. No, Mac Jones is probably not going to play. I don't know. Yeah. That's the thing. It's like, are you really going to bet, first of all, if Jacoby Myers comes back, and Mac Jones was totally healthy, how would you feel? But the combo of what if Jacoby Myers comes back mixed with, you know, Mac Jones not playing? it's like, man, you're really going to try to go to Devonte Parker twice? It's like, sure, that could work, but you don't want to bet on it. No.

Michael Gallup? Yeah, Michael Gallup, well, I think Michael Gallup is a great stash. He's not going to play to before. He's a stash. He's a stash. I don't know if I would play Michael Galp in his first game back. You'd probably want to see how that goes. Mike Nguyen, but you definitely want to see, you know, if he's available, you can stash him on your bench.

Josh Palmer for the Chargers, he had almost 100 yards. Keenan Allen returning might mess this up, but Jalen Guyton, one of their other players is, towards ACL. Yeah. So he's out. I don't know, Jill and Guyton and Josh Bomber

don't do exactly the same things, but there's more options there, but none is great. Isaiah McKenzie for the Bills, had a great game. Your guy, Sterling Shepard? It's playing the night.

Yep. Exactly. Kyle Phillips for the Titans. He's all deeper. It's like, he's notable with Mac Jones out. I feel like Jacoby Myers

is just automatic. I don't think, I think Jacob Myers is is mostly roster. Who is the, who is the backup quarterback? Brian Hoyer. Oh, right.

He's still around. unbelievably. So yeah, you're right. Myers is 49% roster on Yahoo, so that's probably it's probably not out there. But if he is, he has, he's a whole of all of the like 15 year backup quarterbacks in the NFL should start a podcast. I would listen to that. I want like Chase Daniel, Brian Hoyer, and Mike Glennon to just talk about what they do with their money.

Talk about all, like, collectively they've probably been on every team in the league. I just love to hear stories about like which team was better, which team was worse. It'd be great. Yeah, that is funny. All right. Tight-end targets. Wait, before we get to tight end, it's hilarious that we have mentioned the guy this man this man is 14th in the league in receiving yards and is the leading receiver for his football team and his two percent roster. Oh, Matt Collins for the later's?

No, we're just like, Matt, we're good. But here's the thing. Renfro is out. We refuse to acknowledge. Yeah, I don't understand the stat line and I refuse to acknowledge it. Yeah, I guess, yeah, sure, you get out of Matt Collins. You know, I mean, it's just like, 240 yards so far this year. her her her

and bland top tight end targets is he funny or something speaking of bleak we thought running back was bleak tight end boy DKid you want to take your victory lap

and just take Tyler Conklin here and just dance on my grace I'm taking a second victory lap Tyler Cochland bitch this is a massive showdown we have coming up because after Conklin it's we're in deep water after Conklin

Tyler Conkent To reiterate, it catches 84 yards in week three. He's the titan on the Jets, by the way. I don't know if a lot of people know that. It's not exactly a famous player. Well, you would have if you listen to me. Just saying, if people are just tuning in, he's on the Jets. He's either the tight end three or tied in four, depending on the format, I believe, on the year.

So, I mean, that's all I really do to say. He has, like, a lot of ridiculous, weird, fun statistics about him. Like, he's the only tied-in the season with over 200 offensive snaps. He's let all tight ends and routes run. He's second, most in catches among tight ends. Third, in targets? Dude, it's great. Garbage time points count, turns out.

Yeah, but the fantasy grim reaper, Zach Wilson is probably going to show up this week, so things might change. I know, that's why I'm trying to get all my, that's why I'm getting all my victory laps in right now, because he's probably going to go back to obscurity and irrelevance if Zach Wilson starts playing again, which it sounds like he's going to start playing again this weekend.

Well, we'll find out by Wednesday we'll know Zach Wilson's playing. but yeah, either way you can play. To be clear, like, Joe Flacco is the king of checkdowns. Like, Breece Hall has like 25 targets in last two weeks just because Joe Flacco just fucking checks it down automatically. It's like, how are you going to bother the down-feel? I'm just going to check it down.

All right, so we got Tyler Conk. I hope I win this and take him from DECA so badly. All right. You can have him. I already have my fun. He both need to be bonked about Tyler Conklin. And is the Tyler Conklin showdown. time.

Yeah. Highfit says just completely his arms are glued to the sides. He just refuses to have fun. No. Looking for trivia questions. I got one from Andre. Andre.

Andre notes that he likes how we had the point about there's no wonder anymore in the world because anything you wonder you just Google and find out immediately. So I'm about back in high school, you know, random weekends, him and his friends would argue a lot.

And this is the question that they argued the most about. I like this. How many 30 packs of beer can you fit in an Olympic sized swimming pool? 30 packs. Which is really two questions

because first you kind of have to figure how big an Olympic-sized swimming pool. I know that. I was actually more curious about that. I don't know. I have no idea how big in Olympic. I'm trying to imagine one. They're big.

How many lanes are they? They're like 10 lanes. Why? Was it 100 meters? It's like the whole point of Michael's like, remember those things, he's going to race to St. Paul.

I'm sure remember. Isn't they 50 meters long? 50, that's, yeah, because the 100 meters, two ways back. Right.

It's their back. 50 meters. Okay. How deep are they? Oh, man, I don't know. They're really deep.

Even if we do the exact dimensions, we wouldn't even fucking get close. I was going to say, like we're wasting time. Guessing this thing. 50 meters, but is it, it's not a square.

How many 30 packs? I'm having, I'm having, I'm having trouble even picturing what a 30-pack looks like. God, you're old. What's going to say what? It looks like I don't ever buy 30 packs anymore. I don't know what they look like.

They look like a big block of cans. I know what they look like. I'm just trying to picture like exactly how big they are. That's weird because I remember like three seconds ago you say you don't remember what they look like. That's not what I meant. I meant like I'm trying to picture how big there. I know what a fucking like pack of beer looks like. I'm not a dips shit.

Oh my. But it's also irrelevant because even if I did know the exact dimensions of a 30 pack of beer, it wouldn't matter because I'm still going to just guess a wild number. All right. So the number we're going to guess X amount of 30 packs. Is that how we're going to say it? Yeah, yeah. That's how you got to do it. All right.

I guess I'm ready. I don't know. I figured out a formula here. Oh, I know. Hive, it's always like if it's 100 feet long and you multiply it by, you know, eight rows up times 20. All right. We got to say at the same time. All right.

Three, two, one. 35,000. Wow, that was really close. What did you guys say? I said 40,000. You said 35? Yeah, I said 10. Oh, 10,000.

10. It feels low. Okay. I, no. Do you think people ever listen to this part of the show? I'm like, I can't believe it's take advice from these people on anything. The answer is 220,000. That's crazy.

$2,000? Holy shit. You know what's funny? I've been. so shamed and I'm so gun-shy because of Danny Hyfitz. He's like completely altered my brain chemistry while they're in turn. I'm so nervous to be way off on something.

The first thing I thought of, and this question was asked in my head, the first number that popped in my head was 200,000. And I was like, there's no way Hyphitz is going to destroy me if I go that high. So I was like, all right, let's why? Are you thinking, am I that mean? Yeah. Wow.

I mean, you, I don't know if mean is the right word. Critical? You're just like very strongly need to be correct. Horrible? I don't know what the word you want. Insufferable? I don't know.

No, I'm just kidding. Cruel? Oh, man. All right, so after all that, merciless? Luckily, me being such a horrible person in the way of nature, I have one that, I have one now because I've bullied you off your spot. So what do I? I get Tyler Conklin.

Nice. My spoils for being an asshole. my spoils. Greg, you get to pick next to the tight end. Oh, God. Give me Haydenhurst on the Bengals. He's 22% rostered.

He was kind of banged up this week, so he didn't really do anything. But before that, he's actually playing pretty well. They were also up huge this week against the Jets. So he didn't really play in the second half, because, like I said, he was beat up. Playing Thursday against the Dolphins, I don't know if he's going to be healthy.

I'm assuming he will be. But he's run 110 routes, which is the third most for a tight end this year. So he's like always in the field. So yeah, give me Hayden Hurst. Again, not a lot to choose from. He's on the field a lot. It's like as much as you can ask for sometimes.

And he's good at catching. Yeah. But you're right. Yeah, that'll do. DK, scrape the bottom of the barrel here. What are you got? He got us Tyler Conklin once. Do it again.

Evan Ingram for the Jags, who did not have a big game this last week. I believe he had a touchdown and get called back. He didn't like fully catch it. I could have missed that as I was trying to watch like nine games at once. But he had. He runs a route. The important thing about Evan Ingram is he runs a route on 97% of the team's dropbacks this year, which is really great for a tight end.

His target rate hasn't caught up to that usage yet. He's only got a 14% target rate, so that's not great. But I still think he's going to be a big part of this offense. He's going to be one of the top, like, three or four pass catchers in this offense. And Trevor Lawrence looks awesome. So I just kind of want to bet on what Trevor Lawrence can do this year. So I'm going with Evan Ingram for the Jags. He was 26% rostered.

If I throw Irv Smith from the Vikings and David and Joku for the Browns into this mix Would you guys take those two dudes over who you guys already booked? On Joku for sure. He was over the limit. And Joku's only a third rostered on ESPN. Okay. Well, I would take him for sure over England.

We still haven't quite figured out what to do. Like if somebody's, I mean, Enjoku's over 50% in Yahoo. At a certain point, even if there's a disparity between one of the other, if they're so high in one, I kind of disqualify them in my head. But are there like 200,000 leagues on ESPN?

that are just like no, has no, have no players on their teams or what? Yeah, they must. I mean, you know, well, this is how, yes, DK, you know why? Because the only way that I can look up player ownership percentages in ESPN is you have to join a league. So I joined some fake-ass league that I have never looked at once, some public league, and I'm probably screwing up all the percentages. Yeah. Wait, what, did you do the draft?

Did you auto-draft? Oh, I didn't even look. I auto-draft. Do you think your auto-draft? How's your auto-draft team doing compared to your real leagues? Well, I just drafted like two days ago. Welcome into the process, everybody. This is how Craig gets his ownership numbers from ESPN.

That's the only way to do it. You have to just join a public league. Sucks. I got my homes, though, so. Cool. Oh, my God. Okay. Quarterbacks for the week, I mean, it's not like anyone having Mac Jones is like screwed now.

It's like no one's depending on Mac Jones with their fantasy team. we'll say Trevor Lawrence for the Jaguars is amazing. I think that the Jags playing the Eagles this week. The Eagles defense has just been pretty fantastic so far. So even if Trevor Lawrence doesn't have a great game this week, I do think Trevor Lawrence is going to be really good going forward. We'll see if he's just like actively better than like probably encroaching on the Rogers and Brady tier.

I think that Rogers and Brady will both get better this. It seems goes along too. But Trevor Lawrence is out there. James. James would be probably more of recommendation because he's just chucking the ball but the fact that Michael Thomas and Jarvis Landry are both hurt right now we don't know

Jarvis Landry's high ankle sprain Michael Thomas is a toe injury honestly maybe we should have recommended Juan Johnson and the Saints the tight end just in case you know Can I toss a quarterback down here? Yeah Jared Goff 45% roster playing the Seahawks Seahawks defense dude the Seahawks defense is atrocious

and not only that Jared Goff right now is the 11th highest scoring quarterback in fantasy football. Is he? Yes, he is. Lions are putting up points every week, and they're playing in Seattle, so not bad. I can't even explain how bad,

I can't explain to you how bad the CX defense is. They can't stop anything. Marcus Marioo for the Falcons, too. If you need like a real hold your nose, you probably don't, because I don't think there's that many injuries this week.

There's no bi-weeks yet, but Marcus Marioo just generally for the Falcons. He's fine. He runs. I kind of like, I like starting him, because he's got a little bit of like the sneaky running ability and everything.

and they're probably going to be playing behind most of the season. Here's a sneaky one. Jacoby Percette, who's been balling out. Wow. How about that? You're going to play them? Playing the Falcons. Maybe two QB League.

Are you going to play Jacoby Preset? Yeah, especially in a two-key league. Probably not a one-t. Yeah, I was going to say, I don't think there's any reason to roster Jacoby Percent. But yeah, for all the two QB slash super flexors out there, yeah, Jacoby Percette. Gino Smith is 9% roster. They're playing in Detroit. He had 300 yards and two touchdowns last week.

He's actually looked pretty solid. You know. Ryan Tannenhill is now all of a sudden plummeted to 16% roster ship, roster ownership, whatever that word is. They're playing the Colts. Taino had that horrific week, too. But other than that, he's had 19 points in the other two games. Yeah.

All these guys suck, let's be honest. What are we doing here? Defense is, speaking to which, not a great week to stream defenses. Honestly, probably hold on to whatever you got. I agree. I'll start in this week. It's like the defenses that are rostered. The defenses that are rostered, generally speaking,

just have the better matchups. I mean, you could play the Titans defense and kind of hope that the Colts, Matt Ryan is obviously, I mean, Matt Ryan had like seven fumbles in a nine-quarter span this season. The Colts offensive line just has trouble communicating. It's really weird. Like Jonathan Taylor is just missing.

Like, when I say missing blocks, I mean, like, going to the wrong side of the line to block a guy and like, like, this is just stuff you see in college or high school. It's really weird to see in the NFL. They're just giving up easy sacks. It's very odd. So you can hope the Titans get some of those.

The Giants and the Bears play each other. We're talking before Monday at football right now, but like, you know, that just seems like, you know, a really sad game you could just bet on a defense for. But overall, I wouldn't be so quick to give up the defense you've got this week unless, I mean, you know,

you have like the Ravens and you're facing the bills, something like that, probably would stick with what you got. I think that's a good call. You want to do a couple emails? Sure. Yeah. This is very funny.

So a couple episodes ago, I can't keep track. We asked if it was so deranged that we asked all the people who were listening to us for the first time to email us. Yeah. I assumed it was no one.

Yeah. We assumed we were too unhinged. Quite a few. Thank you to everybody who emailed us and we really appreciate it. I want to read one from Wendy. Wendy. Wendy, if you're listening for the second time, we do that as it's a tradition.

We say the name. Yeah, it's like a thing. We say their name. One of us forgets to say the name. We don't do it every time. It's much funnier. when we don't explain it. And it's not funny.

Okay, so I just ruin everything? Okay, let's get you. Yeah, it's okay. Wendy says, good news. I made it to the end of my first ringer fantasy football podcast. Bad news, my boyfriend and I flew from Chicago to Chapel Hill for wedding. He was a groomspin. But instead of attending the wedding, we spent Friday in the UNC emergency room.

He was in his suit to find out that I have a kidney infection. Oh, no. He graciously introduced me to the podcast on our way to Pizza Hut once I was released. Takeaways are the bears absolutely can continue to be this. bad. And two, she also says morphine is amazing. Can you imagine she gets out of the ER and she's like, I'm starving. Can we go somewhere?

He's like, yeah, let's go to Pizza Hut. And hold on before we do that, let's not chat about how you're doing. I'm going to fire up your first episode of the Ringer Fantasy Football show. Do you think this? She's like, man, my lower backer. He's like, quiet. They're about to get to their next award. Do you think that she will continue to listen to us when she is no longer on morphine?

No wonder she liked the show. She won't remember it after that, yeah. Oh, that's good. Thank you for listening. Got an email from Nick on SoFi Stadium. Nick. Remember when we were like, why is this? Like, he basically says,

I'm an architect who specialized in roofing systems. The main misconception, misconception so-fi is it has a dome. There is no dome. It's a canopy. Oh, geez. Lightway ETFE panels, which weigh 1% of what glass weighs.

Oh, wow. With little holes in them. So they can open and close the holes. not connected to the walls of the structure. There's your answer. Okay. It's not a roof. I'm just going to go ahead and say it.

It still felt like a greenhouse in there when I was in there. But this is helpful. How about times? I felt you've been there one time, and I was there with you, and I don't remember any of the things you remember about it. It was hot. That's what I remember. Craig, you've been in so far.

I don't remember it being hot at all. No, I don't either. And you guys went during, you went to Super Bowl in February. I went like October. Dick, I have no idea what you're talking about. I was wearing a jacket the whole day. Let's look it up.

Let's check the tape. Let's see how hot it was on Super Bowl Sunday. I'm going to pull up the game with it. It doesn't change. Now I'm just curious. It was hot, but I don't remember going into the stadium and being like, it's hotter now. It was like sticky and sweaty in there.

Hold on. I think you just live in Washington and came to Los Angeles. Well, yeah, obviously. You're like the bills when they played the dolphins last week. Yeah. That was on the ground. I was not on the top of my game because it was so fucking hot in there. Oh, that makes sense because that was the only time you were actually outside

when you're in Los Angeles. All the other times you come to lay, you're inside in air conditioning. Yeah, yeah. Apparently this canopy allows for them to be much more energy efficient than a dome while also providing cooler temperatures, though not as much as a dome. Yeah, D.K., noticed that. I got one more that I'm going to read to vindicate DK, because I feel like we just kind of shredded them a little.

You got an incredible email from Remember, this is a couple weeks ago, remember when you were talking about Kyler Murray Scramble and you were so mad at the camera operators for zooming in too much? Yes. And I kind of just made fun of you. I couldn't believe you guys

were talking about cinematography. Well, we got an email from an NFL cinematographer. Oh, really? I was a communications major in college and I worked as a camera operator for the athletic department for football and basketball games that were broadcast in ESPN Plus.

First of all, DK, absolutely right. The Zoom was atrocious. We're taught to essentially make a triangle between the ball and sideline and the defense and just keep it that way if you're on camera one. Minimal zooming. Some other camera's going to have

the hero shot that they'll cut to when they need to. That is not your job. Secondly, NFL camera ops wanted to be Roger Deakin's comment. hilarious because of how wrong it is broadcasting people actually kind of hate film people,

at least from my experience. That I think is a lot. This is kind of hilarious. I love that there's like a little like jocks nerds thing going on between the camera people. We don't want to be We don't want to be Roger Deacons

We don't want to be filming Blade Runner Okay I still get like angry Just thinking about that Just take your finger off the Zoom button Guy I want to see what's going on

One ambitious cameraman In the NFL I want to find out who that guy was Hire him Craig you know like smash Zoom Where like you zoom in But then everything else Looks like it's coming closer to you

Like the effect that they use in movies. Yes, it's called a Jaws shot. That is the colloquial term. Jaws shot. Yes, it was first invented in Jaws. But it's in a bunch of other movies too, yeah. It's when you, it's when you, the camera pushes in, but the lens zooms out. So it changes the kind of the depth of field of the frame, but it looks like, the background is getting closer to you, but the character that you're looking at stays in the same place. Cool shot. I think that's what he was going for. Yeah, probably he was doing that.

It was 82 degrees on Super Bowl Sunday. That's hot to me. I don't care what you guys said. It was what? 80? 82 degrees. 82. That's in February.

Inside the stadium, the solid 90. Inside the greenhouse. Yeah. I just think, I don't even know what to say to that. Well, then you don't have to say anything. All right, great. All right. Cool.

All right. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, to people who do the weather. Whoever controls that. Thank you, $3 million. Oh, no, I said his name. You got to bleep that. Jesus Christ.

You know who's going to be doing the bleeping, who we have to thank us. Thank you, Jesse. Thank you, Jesse, for production help. Thank you for all the bleeping, man. I would not be good with the whole, you know, I don't mean documents. I would definitely swear on air accidentally. If I ever got to broadcast the game, I'd drop like four.

Oh, God. Dude, every time I'm on the radio, I'm, like, deathly afraid that I'm going to swear for for some reason because I swear a lot. It's all I think about when I do the radio hits take case. Don't swear, don't swear, don't swear. Don't swear. I'm going to get an FCC fun. I know.

Podcast has made us so relaxed. Too relaxed. Everyone thinks this we're at minute whatever this is of the podcast. Like God, wrap it up. Okay. Yeah, thank you. We did the thing. Email, wait, email me if you were at the Super Bowl and you thought it was hot. Okay. Thank you, Dr. Dre for the... Email me if you were at the Super Bowl and thought it was hot. If you agree that it was hot.

Just and just, can the email just say, I was at the Super Bowl and I thought it was hot? What the fuck, man? This is ridiculous. High Fitz is choosing yet again. to argue it's completely inane thing that it was not. I don't know how this is a name. What about this is a name? You're trying to like argue that it wasn't hot on an 82 degree day. No, you're saying it's,

you're saying greenhouse. You're saying it's hotter in the building. That, yes, and I don't think you proved that it wasn't. We had no way of knowing what the temperature was inside SoFi Stadium on that day. I can't confirm. I'm just saying I was wearing a jacket in the press box. And I don't remember being really hot. Weird choice.

That's all. Did you hear me thank Dr. Dre for his excellent halftime performance? He was sweating his ass off. Look at him. He was doing something. He was performing. He was on. Also, shouts out Rihanna.

Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, Rihanna is doing the halftime show. That's pretty cool. Nothing like, also, D.K., you want to talk about hot. We're going to be in Phoenix this year. So, who, yeah, get ready for that. Keep the roof shut.

Yeah, damn straight. Hopefully that whole, that roof isn't a canopy. It gets cold in the desert at night, though. Thank God. Of course, it starts at like 3.30, so that's not going to help. I've only been to Arizona once, and it was unpleasant. We should cut all of this. No. Disagree.

Leave it, Jesse. All right, goodbye, everyone.