The Ringer NFL Show - Waiver Wire Targets for Week 6

Episode Date: October 11, 2022

We run through the injuries from Week 5 and offer up our must-add players for Week 6 with our favorite format, Showdown Time. (2:00) - RB Targets (17:58) - WR Targets (30:12) - TE Targets (36:01) - Q...B Streamers (36:51) - DEF Streamers Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com. And check out this cool and hilarious website made by one of our listeners! Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Would you bet a few thousand dollars that you could sink an eight-foot putt? What about 10 grand that you could win a drag race against a Camero with a thousand horsepower? If you bet two million dollars, could you bet it all on one football game? Maybe you wish you could, but you probably wouldn't. Gamblers is about the people who did. From the Ringer podcast network, listen to Gamblers Season 2 on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyfitz.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I am joined by Danny Kelly, Craig Coralbeck. We are going through our must-add players after week five. Here's how it works. We're going to go through position by position and be like, who are the top running backs, receivers, tight-ins, etc. That we would be adding ahead of week six. And if we all pick the same player, we're going to do a little trivia tiebreaker to see who gets who.
Starting point is 00:01:10 And hopefully that process helps you figure out the order in which you would get these players. If you get them on waivers or maybe you don't get your number one guy, helps you. If you're listening to this, you want to send us trivia questions, emails at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com, put trivia in the subject line, put the answer in white font so I don't see them because they was accused of cheating. All right, so buy weeks are here. It's kind of like a soft opening for the by weeks because the teams could be a lot more relevant. So it's the Titans. It's the Raiders, the Lions, and the Texans. So Derek Henry, obviously, is a big one on by, Devante Adams, Deontious Swift, Jamal Williams, Amon Ross St. Brown, Josh Jacobs,
Starting point is 00:01:45 who is like really intent on making me look like a moron. He's doing a great job of it. He's doing an incredible job. Someone called Josh Jacobs the anti- Mike Davis, which I actually think is exactly. He's a bizarreo Mike Davis this year. He's the bizarro Mike Davis, Josh Jacobs. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:59 So with that said, again, four teams on by. I'm going to go through the running backs. Caviote to this is Kenneth Walker, the running back for the Seahawks. If for whatever reason he's available in your league, that's the number one guy this week, I assume we can all agree on that. Like, it's not even close.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Spend all your fab on that. Yeah, I was going to ask, so he's around like 50-ish percent rostered in ESPN and Yahoo leagues. How much would you spend on him? I would say he's the most important ad. He's the most important player that's been available on waivers since Jeff Wilson after week one. How much do you think? What percentage of your fab money should you spend on him? Are we talking like 75%? DK, you're the Seahawks fan. Let's say you're the Javante Williams team. Like if you had Javante, you lost your number one running back and maybe you also have like a Cordarell Patterson or Elijah M.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Like you're down two of your top three running backs. Kenneth Walker's out there. Would you spend all of it like Kenneth Walker? Yeah. Because again, Sean Penny broke his leg. That's why. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Shot Penny's out for the season. I mean, and the context here is that he's a highly drafted. He's a second rounder. Very good prospect, extremely productive, extremely fast. He's essentially a slightly poor man's,
Starting point is 00:03:06 a middle class man's, uh, Breece Hall. Like he's going to be the star for the team. Yeah. Like, I don't think he's quite as good of a prospect as Bruce Hall, but he was really close.
Starting point is 00:03:15 And now he's going to be the starter. The big thing here, the reason he wasn't much higher in our pre-season rankings is because Penny was in his way and now Penny is out for the year. So, you know, the Seahawks offense is a lot better
Starting point is 00:03:27 than we all thought it would be too. So that also kind of like bumps him up. I think he has potential to be a big impact, big, big impact guy. I'm not necessarily saying he's going to be an RB1, but like RB2, plug him in as your RB2
Starting point is 00:03:38 for the rest of year, and I feel pretty good about that. So we're saying back up the Brinks truck here, like really spend nearly all of your money. At least 90. I would say at least 90%. Just go for it because I don't think there's going to be as good. There's not likely to be as good of a clear cut starting running back on the waiver wire
Starting point is 00:03:54 the rest of the year, or at least the odds are against that. There's no second round talent sitting on benches or sitting on waivers right now other than Kenneth Walker. Right. And other guys that if they're out there, you probably want Alex Madison for the Vikings if he's out there just as a stash just in case anything happens to Elvin Cook. Brian Robinson is rostered. He's probably worth adding just because he'll work in. I'm not saying he's going to be excellent at it.
Starting point is 00:04:14 any point, but he might be so if he's out there, probably want him. But Kenneth Walker, 100%, and then if not, we'll go through the guys, DK. Yo. Who is the number one running back pick you would have from waivers ahead of week six? So with the caveat that I would plug him, this is the guy to like plug in this week, particularly. I'm going with Eno Benjamin of the Cardinals. Everybody on the Cardinals other than, you know, Benjamin is hurt. All the running backs on the Cardinals are hurt right now. James Connor has a ribs injury. I mean, he might play this year, or this week, but he's already kind of banged up. You know, he's not been super effective.
Starting point is 00:04:50 They've been mixing in, Eno Benjamin, and Darrell Williams. I keep, I get the Darylls and Damien's all mixed up. It's Derell Williams. Dorel Williams. Damien Williams is on the Falcons injured reserve. Right, but weren't they on the same team for a while? Anyway, they're on the Chiefs. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Yeah. I digress. I get him mixed up. But yes, he's also injured. Jonathan Ward is also injured. The Cardinals tried to claim. Tony Jones did not get that claim because they were not high enough in the order. So they're clearly looking like their depth at running back right now is really rough.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And so I think Eno Benjamin, even if Connor plays, has a good chance to play quite a bit, like a 50-50 split, potentially. If James Connor doesn't play, then he's definitely startable. He's like an RB2 type guy. So I would say Eno Benjamin, he's only roster in 10% of leaks right now. He'd be my top choice if I just need someone this week. There's other guys that we can talk about that are like good stashes, I think. But, you know, Benjamin has a chance to be like a pretty high-volume guy this week. I agree that this is an excellent choice because, again, we got to see whether Connor plays.
Starting point is 00:05:52 But Connor also missed time with the ribs injury last week and they were precautionary upon kind of pulling them out. But they might be again. And to your point, they're also playing the charges this week. The charges, Rundee, oh, sorry, sorry, I got that missed. They're playing Seattle. Yeah, sorry. The two, I spoiled my top two. The Broncos are playing the Chargers, whose Rundee is terrible.
Starting point is 00:06:08 And Mike Boone is like the other guy who's considering. And then Eno Benjamin, they're playing the Seahawks. And the Seahawks Rundee also signed. The Seahawks or the Mario Kart rainbow strip. So I think that those two guys, those are the two guys on between in my head is, you know, Benjamin for like this week because Seattle's just so bad. And I feel like Seattle's just giving up eight yard chunks on runs more than any team. But I actually think I would take Mike Boone for the Broncos. It's a little muddy because Latavius Murray, Denver added him.
Starting point is 00:06:38 So Mike Boone isn't quite his wonderful favorite pick. That is the fear. And so maybe it's kind of. you're picking a guy in a three-headed backfield. But I do kind of just think Mike Boone, again, the Chargers Run-Dee is so bad that I think that they're very similar in my mind of just you want a running back
Starting point is 00:06:58 that's going to get a lot of weight. So I see why for this week in particular, we can kind of, it's kind of tough to wait because Mike Boone's going to have more of a role throughout the year. But you know, Benjamin looks really good for Arizona, man. Like he looks better than James Connor, quite frankly. Connor's been very disappointing.
Starting point is 00:07:12 He just kind of looks like he's running in mud. He's just not explosive. Obviously, the injuries are not helping that. And I could see a world in which the Cardinals just start to utilize Benjamin more and more as the year goes on. I completely agree. Craig, who do you have? I had Eno Benjamin. I just don't trust Denver's offense.
Starting point is 00:07:28 They've scored more than 16. Once in a game this year. And I'd rather honestly have the guy on the Cardinals, even if he's like playing second fiddle to James Connor, who's banged up. I'd rather have Eno. I think that's, yeah, you know what I'm chitching in my mind. I'll do the unit too. We got to, this one, this week, I think more than others I can remember, we have to make a big differentiation between whether you need someone to play this week or you want someone for the rest of the year. I think that's worth clarifying. Yeah. And again, if James Connor plays, it's fine. Derell Williams is probably not going to play. Jonathan Ward's probably not going to play. So I do like Eno for this week. Eno, Benjamin Showment Showdown time. Yeah. What a day for Eno. It's time. Eno's good. Eno is good. Yeah. And he's only second year. For some reason, it feels like he's been around for a long time. Isn't he? third year? I think he's third year. I think he's
Starting point is 00:08:14 third. Oh, well, that's why. But he's hung around. He's hung around on the roster, which is saying something, I guess. I want to read an email from Paul who says, I've been listening a couple of years. I love showdown time. I love the trivia. But every week when it comes around, I wonder why you guys don't just write your answers to the trivia questions down before you
Starting point is 00:08:30 say them out loud because you accuse each other of influencing whoever says first. Seems like a lot of work. Got nothing for you there. Wow, all right. All right. You can tell Paul where to shove it. It's a nice idea. Did Eno Benjamin not play his first year at all?
Starting point is 00:08:47 Does he just have no stats from 2020? Because it says he's only been in the league for two years. Well, he was a seventh runner in 2020. Maybe he was on the practice squad or something like that. But yeah, he's been around for a couple years. He was inactive for every game as a rookie. There you go. Anyway, it is the Eno Benjamin
Starting point is 00:09:07 showdown time. It's a dude a little. I kept it classy there. All right. This is from Phil. Phil. In honor of Happy Gilmore. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:22 What is the longest golf drive on record in yards? Wow. On record, does that mean like a PGA official drive? I don't know because the answer is fact checkable. So I'm assuming this is a Guinness World Record. Oh, okay. So this is just like some guy who called the Guinness Booker World Records dude to come out and watch him hit.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Yeah, I don't. think it's like on the PGA tour, I would assume. It's probably just someone who does this all on record. Okay. I'm going to go with like, well, actually now that I think about it, okay, so I'm realizing he could have done this like downhill on some like course in Ireland that's dry. So I'm going to go to 600 yards because if it's like dry and downhill and you actually bomb it 450 yards, but then you get all the roll, I'm going to go with like 600. Because it could be like weird, it could be cheating on the hole, you know what I mean? I know. My initial thought was to be in like the mid-500s, but now you've kind of swayed me. I'm anchored to your answer now. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I'm going to go with my initial instinct, Craig, while you're thinking, and say 505 yards. It's probably too low. But that was my first thought. I'm going to price is right high if it's and goes 601. Going higher. The answer is, what, with an old wood driver, 515 yards? Yes. Wow. No, this can't be right. A wooden driver? It says it was in 1974. Phil, I don't know about Phil's fact-shaddy.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Somebody teach Bryce and D. Chambot how to do the Happy Gilmore swing and he'll hit it 800. Well, no, this is real. Mike Austin's 1974 shot is recognized by Guinness as the official world record golf. How is this possible?
Starting point is 00:10:58 That a guy did this, that was like almost 50 years ago. No one's called Guinness lately and been like, hey, let's set something up. If I Google, if you Google right now, longest golf drive ever, the Google answer based on Wikipedia's says 551 yards.
Starting point is 00:11:11 It says Mike DeAbbin has the longest drive at 551. D.K. still wins. But damn, mid-500s was my initial thought, but I was anchored to Hafeitz. Yeah, would he finish? Dead last? Yeah, you had a good day, though. I had a good day, though. How did he finish again? Dead last?
Starting point is 00:11:29 Yeah, you had a good day, though. I didn't get to see a play. I was too busy winning. Hold one on a par four, hell of a drive. All right he finished? Heifitz is perplexed over here trying to find the true answer. I'm just trying. Craig and I are just going to recite the whole movie.
Starting point is 00:11:47 It's so much harder to find than I thought. I don't know. Okay, anyway. I always wonder how they wrote in the Mr. Mr. Lady. Like, how did they come up with that? Mista, meista. Was that in the script?
Starting point is 00:11:58 Or was like, was that a sketch comedian who had a character pre-planned? Like, how did that work? I was just completely lost trying to find the answer to this question on the fly. And I couldn't. It was really hard. Okay. DK1. DK got Eno.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Am I second or third? You got second? This is tough. If I like life on the line and you put a flex in for this week, I would take Mike Boone because of everything said, it's, you know, he's playing for the Broncos. The charges for Rundee is terrible. They're playing Monday night football. It's probably not ideal to play Mike Boone. But there's all the other player I'm considering here, Rashad White for the Bucks.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah. So, so clearly the other guy here where it's like, it's not clear that he's a great play for this week. But Rashad White, there's two reasons we like him. He has juice. He's young. He's a rookie and like he's explosive. But the bucks are one of the few teams left. This is a two true running back field.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Just two guys. Literally, there's not a third running back on this team that has a touch. It's just Leonard Fournette and Rashad White. And Rashad White isn't getting a ton of touches, but he's already getting 40% of the snaps. He's catching passes too. Yeah. And he's playing more and more as the season goes on. If anything happened to Fournet, Rashad White's like a top 15 running back period.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah. And so if you don't need a running back for this exercise, I mean, you kind of need to add Rashad White if he's out there. You should absolutely add Rashad White, like regardless of what you need. I feel like if you need to fill a spot, I would probably start, you know, over Rashad White this week. But I would add both, honestly, if you can. By the way, this is the Arizona State running back day. Both of these guys, you know Benjamin and Rashad White, Arizona State running backs.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Kind of random. Sun Devils. Okay. So with all that said, Rashad White, you want on your team, but if only for this week, Mike Boone's probably a better flex. I'll take him, Craig.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I will do. I will take Rashad White. I mean, there's also, like, another guy to, like, throw a dart on is like Jalen Warren for the Steelers. The Steelers are going to lose every game. He actually played more stabs than Najee because they sat him in the fourth quarter
Starting point is 00:13:59 because they were getting killed so bad. He's got the foot injury. Like, I could see them shutting Najee Harris down like week 12 this year. They also, they sat Najee, they sat Najee, but they didn't sit into the other starters, which I thought was kind of interesting. And Craig, and hyphins, like he said, Warren has out, like, he's outproduced Naji in basically every advanced stat that you could imagine for a running back, like, yards after contact,
Starting point is 00:14:22 you know, success rate, everything that you'd, like, look at for a running back, he's, like, been better than Nogne. I'm very worried that in, like, three seasons, we're going to look back on Naji Harris as, like, Trent Richardson. Yeah. It's not looking good so far. I mean, he's, yeah. Like in the draw for him was always volume
Starting point is 00:14:40 And now he's not getting the volume And he's just on the wrong offense For what he's good at Like he has no room to maneuver in the backfield Which is not I feel like he needs an offensive line That can like get him the yards before contact And then he can make everything work after that And that is not what the Steelers are giving him right now
Starting point is 00:14:54 It's just not working He also is a sprained foot Which isn't great If you have an IR spot Damien Williams might be coming off IR soon for the Falcons But you could add him to your IR spot And then when it comes back You could just see if he plays well
Starting point is 00:15:07 I'm curious if he'll just be the starting running back for the Falcons when he comes back. I don't know if he'll be good. I don't know if it'll be worth playing. However, on the off chance that he's just the starting running back for a team that loves to run the ball for like the entire second half of the season and beyond, I would want to find out that answer while he's on my team. So you could throw him on your eye spot. Yeah, a couple of the guys to mention here real quick. Kevin Coleman all of a sudden is on the 49ers in playing.
Starting point is 00:15:33 He's got a maybe stash. And then Joshua Kelly for the Chargers is. sort of emerging as the true backup slash hand cup for Austin Echler. Of course, if Echler went down, Kelly would have an immense amount of value. But also, like, importantly, he's looked kind of good this year. He's been running pretty well.
Starting point is 00:15:49 You know, I think he's basically passed Sony and Michelle on this step chart. He had 10 carries this last game. He, you know, he's not like awesome in the passing game, but he can catch passes, things like that. So he's another guy to kind of keep in mind and use as a stash if you have an extra spot on your roster. I also love when guys go from college to the NFL
Starting point is 00:16:06 and keep their color scheme. Josh Kelly went to the CLA, stayed with the Chargers, same stuff. T. Higgins, Clemson to Cincinnati. Like, I love when that happens. That is nice.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Very visually pleasing. He is top 24 in rushing grade per PFF. Like, he's right around guys like shot Penny, Khalil Herbert. He's right behind Austin Eckler in that grade. So, I mean, he's been running well. That wasn't as sexy of a pitch as I thought it was going to be.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And you're like, he's right behind. And then it was like, Khalil Herbert. It's like, oh, okay, cool. Everyone loves Kalio Herbert. What are you talking about? He's two spots behind Austin Echler. Yeah, that's a better pitch.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Three spots behind Dalvin Cook. How's that? Four, five spots behind Stakehorn-Barkley. Here's something I got for you. I don't care about any of these grades. Yeah, that's fine. They don't mean anything to me. Is the offensive line good?
Starting point is 00:16:52 Do they have room to run? Anybody can run behind a good offensive line. I don't give a shit how good the grade is. Just saying he's been playing well. He doesn't suck. How about that? All right. Let's do wide receivers in a second.
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Starting point is 00:17:51 Age and location restrictions apply. Bonus issued as non-withdrawable site credit that expires after 30 days. All right, receiver? A lot of wide receiver options this week. I kind of think this is, there's so many options. I'm curious if we even agree.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Dika, who's your number one wide receiver pick? All right. So as a little caveat to start out, before we get into the guys that we're picking here, George Pickens, he's rostering 55% of Yahoo! If he's still out there, I would definitely go get him right now. I mean, he's like ascending. He looks really good.
Starting point is 00:18:20 And Jacobi Myers for the Patriots, same deal. He doesn't make the cut with the way that we do this, but he is the number one. He's just a target hog. He's very dependable, PPR guy. If those two guys are out there, he'll grab them. But the next guy on the list, who also is, there's a little discrepancy between,
Starting point is 00:18:35 ESPN and Yahoo. But if he is out there, my first pick would be Isaiah McKenzie for the bills. Just because we've got, Jameson Crowder is out right now. It's looking like this means McKenzie is going to be back from the concussion this week, and he'll have basically a full workload in theory
Starting point is 00:18:51 running out of the slot. And you want every piece of this bill's offense that you can get. So to me, McKenzie is the priority here just because you play for the bill's offense. He's shown the ability to demand targets. And again, like they're going to score a million points this offense is. So I want a piece of that.
Starting point is 00:19:05 They're playing the Chiefs this week. It's the game of the season. Love that. The last time McKenzie was healthy, he had seven catches, 76 yards at a touchdown. He's actually got three touchdowns in the four games he's played this year. We've seen the Cole Beasley role really excel in the bills on the bills in the past, and this is exactly what McKenzie would be for the bills this week. And even going forward, I like Isaiah McKenzie this week and going forward.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I agree with everything you guys are saying. I think this is a weirdly, really deep time of the year for the receivers on waivers. I actually would take Rondell Moore over Isaiah McKenzie, though, for this week and for the next to season. Interesting. Okay. I'm going to Rondel Moore.
Starting point is 00:19:43 First of all, for this week, I agree Bill's Chiefs, obviously it's going to be a fireworks show. But the Cardinals are playing the Seahawks, and the Seahawks are the Morricer turbo rainbow strip that just accelerate everyone. The Cardinals also so weirdly are addicted to getting Rondale Moore the ball.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Our guy, Peter Schrager, had Rondale Moore as his sleeper of the year, and Schrager saying that as someone who just kind of like parties with King's Kingsbury every now and then. Is that right? I mean, yeah, they're buds.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And. Oh, I thought you meant Ron Dale parties with King's. No, not Peter Shringer and Rhondon Moore. No, not to, I mean, maybe. Not to my knowledge. I don't know, but no. I get it. No, I understand.
Starting point is 00:20:21 No. But so I'm speaking Ronnell more than Peter Shriger. Player partying with the coach. But the Cardinals so obviously wanted to give Rondale a big role. And then he had a hamstring injury. And they just gave the role to Greg Dorch for the. first month and Greg Dorch was so weirdly productive and we're like get dorched but rondo more's back and Greg Dorch just isn't playing and they're force feeding rondale
Starting point is 00:20:44 more the ball you get the most touches of any of the cardinals receivers inside rondon more got five i think four screens in the first half yeah like they're just forcing him the ball and it's pretty hard to find a receiver with rondale more's talent that might just get six touches every game we'll see what he does with them but i don't know in a week like this with the Seahawks. I just think Rondo Moore that's, it's just the guy that you kind of, especially in PPR where stupid little screens are going to be a full point. Rondo more might have like an eight point floor every week just because he's going to get like three or four screens every game. So he might have the floor. I don't know about like, I just feel like I've ridden the Rondale ride and I didn't like the experience. He just seems like he has such low ceiling touches and they just like get him these little dink and dug passes around the line of scrimmage. Also, Dioder Hopkins is coming back in two weeks. And, it'll be Marquis Brown, DeAndre Hopkins, Zach Ertz, and then Rondale. I agree, but you rode the Rondale ride when he was a rookie, a relatively raw rookie in an, like they're trying to get him the ball.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And I don't know, like he was a rookie last year, and he's had a hamstring injury the last few weeks. Like, I feel like, he's Curtis Samuel. He's 22 years old. He's the Curtis Samuel of the Cardinals' offense. Like Curtis Samuel's AdD is, I don't know, like under five or something, but he's still getting so many looks, they're scheming him up. I think this is in particular in PPR. Like, if you're in half PPR or standard, I'm less excited about this slightly.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Certainly in PPR, though, I think Rhonda Moore has a good floor just because he's going to get a lot of targets. I would say this, though. I think I'm curious how we go through the rest of these. I don't feel strong. Like, if you're listening to this and you're wondering if multiple of these players are available, get whichever one just sounds great to you. I don't think the way we order this is particularly important. There's like four or five guys. It's like, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Like, there's a lot of floor mixed with upside available. So I'm curious. Should we do the McKenzie showdown time and then talk about the guys that we want to add here? Right. So I'll get Rondale Moore. You guys fight over him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:45 All right. D.K., just me and you. Yeah. For the Isaiah McKenzie showdown time. Woo! All right. I'm going to whip you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I've been on a cold streak. Calm down. I'm due. Calm down. I feel like I never get these right. I can't even believe I got the last one right. Hyphins is still like looking up longest drive on the internet
Starting point is 00:23:09 because he doesn't believe that he's like fervently trying to prove that he was right at 600. Hyvins is going to go out there with his driver later today and try and beat this record. I did look it up and I realized the real longest drive
Starting point is 00:23:23 we actually undersold it. An astronaut hit a drive like on the moon like 50 years ago. That fucker's still going. That shit probably 10 million miles technically. All right. Anyway, this is from Chris.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Chris. How many arrested development episodes feature the running joke? I've made a huge mistake. Ooh. Ha! Ha! That's funny. Let's just come up with a quick answer. Five, four, three, two, one, eight.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Ten. Yeah, I was thinking ten. It's 13. Ooh, got him. Damn it. How many times off the top of your head can you remember? Like what he was saying, I've made a big mistake. about, like, I've made a huge mistake about
Starting point is 00:24:07 marrying Amy Polar and then didn't he date the girl that Michael really loved and he said something a big mistake about her. I can't even remember it with that. It's all about him like dating women. It's made a huge mistake. I love the, just the thousand-yard stare
Starting point is 00:24:25 that goes with it. I get Rhonda Mora D.K., you get his A. McKenzie. Craig, you have third pick here. I'm going to take Alec Pierce for the Colts, this is actually a decent consolation prize here. Ashton Dooling got hurt on Thursday night football, but Pierce is already kind of starting to take over anyway. He played a lot. He made the biggest catch of the game,
Starting point is 00:24:43 and he's getting a decent target share. I think, and he seems to have a rapport with Matt Ryan. He was a highly drafted rookie, and it seems like, you know, this offense, they don't have a lot going on at tight end. Jonathan Taylor's hurt. Like, it seems like Pierce and Pittman
Starting point is 00:24:56 are going to really see just a funnel of targets. So I like Pierce. Nine targets in this last week. And like you said, he looks really good. Like he's playing well. He like went up in Mawks. a guy this weekend.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Well, he didn't even moss the guy. He like saved the game because Matt Ryan basically did his best to throw a pick six. And Alec Pierce like it was more like he snatched the ball from the defensive back. Like he just like at a horse. It wasn't even moss. It was like purely at a 90 degree angle just takes the ball like he was catching a fly and karate kid. And the defensive back wasn't even mad. He was like like you ate a whole wheel of cheese.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Like it wasn't mad to impress. He could not believe that Pierce caught the ball. Yeah. Can I ask a question about a different wide receiver? So Matt Ruhle got fired, the head coach of the Panthers. And there's been a lot of rumors now about the Panthers kind of like cutting bait and shipping off a lot of their talent to fully tank and prepare for next year. So there's, you know, there's been talks about DJ Moore are getting traded. Robbie Anderson getting traded.
Starting point is 00:25:56 There's pretty much nowhere these receivers could go. That would be a worse situation than the one they were just in. So is it worth it as a speculative ad? to grab Robbie Anderson now in the small chance that he ends up on like the Chargers? The Chargers, that would be fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Yeah, the Chargers are the team that just seem to make the most sense because they have no speed. And so Robbie Anderson is like this obvious target. I don't think D.G Moore will get traded. I mean, who knows? No. I kind of lean that he won't
Starting point is 00:26:25 just because he just signed a contract. You can if you're in like a 12-team league or a 14-team league. You totally can add speculatively. I don't think he'll get moves. and it also might take a little time. But yeah, sure. I mean, it depends if you really have that spot,
Starting point is 00:26:39 then you can go. If you're kind of looking at waivers and none of the guys that we're talking about are around, then yeah, you totally can. There's so many guys on the waiver wire this week, though, that I'm pretty excited about stashing. Like, I think Robbie Anderson's a good one.
Starting point is 00:26:51 The other guy I would add is Wondell Robinson for the Giants, who should be coming back pretty soon. I think now is the time to stash me. He's still out there because the Giants have no one else, like everybody's hurt, and we can't really depend on Kidar's Tony as much as Craig and I want a will this to happen. It's just not happening yet.
Starting point is 00:27:07 So Wandae Robinson's another guy. Well, do you get I keep disagreeing on the Giants? I love Wondale, but I feel like he's missed so much practice that, I mean, Darius Slayton, I mean, he's hardly rostered, but. Sure, you could throw him out there too. He played the third, like, I think he's played the third most snaps of the receivers in that group, though. It was like Marcus Johnson was playing the most.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I don't know. Exactly. We'll see it. It's hard to predict. I'm a little skeptical that Wondale's going to come in having played barely and just make it impact. But the other one, also, Devin DuVernay for the Ravens, man. Yeah. I mean, with Rashad Bateman out, yeah, Duverne. With Rashad Bateman out, he just looked firmly like the number two option in the offense.
Starting point is 00:27:45 He's like a touchdown magnet. Everything happens. Just good things happen to Devin Duvone. He's Kyler Murray's cousin, by the way. Oh, a little fact. Khalil Shakur for the bills. If Isaiah McKenzie's not in there, or if he's not on waivers, I would probably think about adding Shakur, too, just because he looked really, really solid in this game. Would you take him or, like, Donovan People's Jones for the Browns?
Starting point is 00:28:10 I would rather have Shakur. Really? Well, I don't know. It just kind of depends. This floor versus ceiling. I think Donovan People's Jones is going to be very frustrating weekend and week out. I don't think he's going to give you, like,
Starting point is 00:28:22 a solid, you know, consistent option. He might have a couple big spike games. He's kind of like Marcus Vela Scantling. Like, I just don't really want those guys on my team. Like you can't depend on it. You're going to get two points one week. Maybe you'll get 15 points another week. But it's like so frustrating to utilize.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Shakur, if, you know, if McKenzie takes a while to come back, for instance, like they're already working him into this offense. Like, and again, the offense is like exponentially better and more, you know, fantasy friendly than the Browns. I'd rather have people's Jones. That's fine. You got him. The point is there's a lot of players, though. Like, there's a lot of good, like, there's a lot of good, like,
Starting point is 00:29:02 And also, Josh Reynolds. Also, wait, hold on. We have to just say, I know you kind of irrationally hate Marcus Valdos Scantling, DK. It's like how I kind of irascially
Starting point is 00:29:09 hated Josh Jacobs and then he came to top five running back. RAP to me. But Valdos Scatling looked great last night on Monday night and I just do want to throw out
Starting point is 00:29:17 if he's out there, probably worth adding. Yeah, he gave me a run for my money. I was playing, I was up against him in a matchup last night and I was pretty scared, but thankfully he came through
Starting point is 00:29:24 with a good old fashion MVS drop in the fourth quarter. Yeah, right off his check plate. Because he's not, he's not that way though boom bust anymore dk like he he kind of he hasn't had less than eight points in a ppm he's actually the opposite he's like a high floor like four catches a game for 50 yards guy yeah i'm looking at his half ppr points it's six two six point eight seven point eight twelve like yeah it's not bad whatever like there's there's a million fucking receivers i'd
Starting point is 00:29:53 way rather my it's not that like i hate valet scantling it's just there's so many other guys I'd rather have. He's more involved in the offense that he's on the Chiefs and hasn't even scored yet. So I don't know. Anyway. If you're going to do a victory lap,
Starting point is 00:30:03 I'm just going to say, Juju Smith-Schuster, woof. Yeah, Juju, we'll get to him later this week. I've made a huge mistake. Speaking of off, yeah. Tight end. Can I just say that the least favorite part of my week
Starting point is 00:30:19 on the show is doing the tight-end streamer part of the show. And this is going to be one of the worst weeks for screaming tight ends because Detroit's 's T.J. Hawkinson's on by. Darren Waller for the Raiders is on by and herders hamstring. Kyle Pitts for Atlanta obviously dealing with a hamstring injury and just dealing with not really being good at football.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Pittsburgh Pat Firemouth has a concussion and then also Dalton Schultz for the Cowboys got hurt again. So four, depending on five tight ends that people were relying on really just four guys are all need to be replaced. So it's going to be competitive for like a tight end on waivers this week. So this is pretty important.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Grim. Did we all pick Tayson Hill as our guy? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I did too. I did. All right. I mean, we've been down, yeah, we've been down the taste of hill.
Starting point is 00:31:04 We spent like 18 minutes on the Sunday night show discussing him, so we don't need to get too far into him. We can just summarize it with he had like 35 points and is the third best tight end in fantasy football this season, just by point total. So that's probably one. He has like one catch on the year. And like everybody on the Saints has hurt. He literally has one catch for two yards. Taysam Hill. He's the most unique player in fantasy
Starting point is 00:31:32 in football, really. It's all insane. People are mad that he counts as a tight end. Guess what? He counts as a tight end. We're not changing it. Yeah, it's above our pay grade. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:31:42 He's essentially just a flex. Who cares? Wide receiver, running back tight, and it doesn't matter. Put him at your flex. All right. God, I hate that I'm doing this. It is the Taysam Hill showdown time.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Hates himself. Okay. This is a dumb. showdown time. Okay. And I'm going to pick the dumbest question we've ever gotten. And it may just cackle when I read it. It's from Cam. Cam. Cam. Cam. I'm thinking of a number between one and ten. What is it? This is not trivia. I don't care. It's the funniest question we ever got. It's none of the shit we do is really actually. Taysam Hill's not a tight end and this is not trivia. It's appropriate. I thought this is incredible. Are we just going to count down and pick a number?
Starting point is 00:32:30 Yeah. Yeah. Okay, three, two, one, one, six. Ooh, one, four and six. I said six. I said one. The number is six. Yeah. Fucking nailed it. D.K., you cleaned up today. TK. was three and O on trivia today. Look at me. Look at me. Making up for past wrongs. So you get Taseem Hill and again. Yahoo. It's Taseem Hill. Is it going to play five snaps. Taysom Hill, he's going to absolutely pull the Hawkinson this week. 40 points in week, whatever, and then
Starting point is 00:33:06 the next week, one catch. But the point is that every tight end's like that, so you might as well get the guy who actually has a chance at two touchdowns and three touchdowns. He's getting, he's getting like a lot, he's vulturing all of Alvin Kamer's rushing touchdowns this year. He's just going to catfish you. He's been like DMing you all week on Hinge, and then
Starting point is 00:33:21 he's not going to show up for dinner. Dude, did you see what Sean Payton said about Taysom Hill on, I don't even, I think it was like, it was a radio show. Didn't he say something like if you're like if you wonder why we're paying him $10 million like I'll gladly take him when I come back to coach in two years or something? Exactly. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Sean Payton has a huge thing for T. some hell. Yeah, obviously. Okay. I'm going to take Hayden Hurst for the Bengals. Yeah. It's just like every week we say the same shit. It's like Hayden Hurst.
Starting point is 00:33:48 It's just crazy. Well, he scored. He scored a touch. Seven targets. Plus T. Higgins might be out for a while. So I think this is a good one. Yeah. Look, people, it's not pretty.
Starting point is 00:33:58 It is what it is. I'm going to take. I'm going to take Irv Smith. Irv. Oh. So. Oh. That's what I'm at.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Shiv wrote my spine. This is true buffering. Irv, to me, is the buffering line where it's like, it's not even streaming anymore.
Starting point is 00:34:12 It's just buffering. What, you know how we said the Amendoza line is like 10 points for running backs and wide receivers? What is it for tight ends
Starting point is 00:34:18 this year? Like five points a game? Literally like five or six. I think the Amendoza line, like the idea of like 200. 200 is probably like, a four and a half. You mean a 200 batting average? 200 bad because again, over 200 still sucks. That's the point.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I think it's four. Like 200's bad. Dude, I tweeted out something like T.J. Hockinson scored 40 points in week four and then one point in week five. Like, why do we do this to ourselves? And I had several people who were like, if you didn't see this coming, you're an idiot. I'm like, dude, I'm not asking for him to score 40 points a fucking game. I just want like seven. I just give me seven a game. What is the lowest point total? you would accept out of your tight end rather than having to risk them playing the game on their own.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Like, would you just, if somebody was like, hey, Hi Fitz, Hayden Hurst can give you six points this week. Would you take that rather than risk having him play and see what he actually does? I added, in the Ringer League, I had Kyle Pitts, I had to add Robert Tanya and he gave me four and a half points. I was like, yeah, fine, sure. Four and a half.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Four and a half. I was like, yeah, okay, sure. What did I expect? It's so dark. also Craig beat me in the Ringer League this week because Joe Burrow did the quarter because Joe Mixin didn't get down to the two-inch line and then Joe Burrow snuck it in.
Starting point is 00:35:36 By the way, and I got to mention this again, Craig thought he was playing me because everybody in the league is called some variation of Danny Kelly. Well, no, 11 teams. Except for Craig. Well, finally enough, I obviously know not to just, otherwise I think I was playing you every week.
Starting point is 00:35:49 So I actually clicked into the team and the owner of the team was Danny. So I was like, oh, this is D.K. All right. Extra layer. Quarterback, it's just Gino. I feel like you have to stream Gino. Also, it's not a huge week to stream, if we're being honest.
Starting point is 00:36:06 There's not that many quarterback injuries. You don't have Ryan Tannenhill. He's on by. I mean, maybe of Derek Carr, but you're not of Davis Mills. And you probably don't have starting Jared Gough. So I don't think it's really a streaming week. And if Gino's out there, that's the guy. Really, it's more, are you going to bench Stafford or Aaron Rogers or Russell Wilson for someone?
Starting point is 00:36:22 And I think the answer is Gino. like, and that's kind of it. Maybe Daniel Jones against Baltimore. Oh, man. Justin Fields, back on the fantasy map after a slightly better game. You're not playing them, I don't think. I think it's, but Gio. It's a good point that you make, though.
Starting point is 00:36:39 You made a good point, though, about Stafford, man. It's like, at what point do we just literally go with anyone else? We're going to explore that more on our power hour this week. All right. Defences. There's some real options this week. The Rams, a lot of people have dropped the Rams, so check your league. But the Rams are playing the Panthers this week.
Starting point is 00:37:02 So, you know, Matt Rule fired. Baker Mayfield has a high ankle spray. PJ Walker might start. PJ, and the irony is PJ Walker basically is on the Panthers, I believe, because he played for Matt Rule at Temple. And so the irony of Matt Rule being fired and now they have to play PJ Walker. I mean, the whole thing's kind of a disaster. So if you have the Rams are out there, go get the. The Rams also, funnily enough, you can also play the Panthers against the Rams if you want,
Starting point is 00:37:29 because Matt Stafford keeps turning the ball over. It's like, is there any team that you have as good of a shot of a pick six or a fumble six at the Rams? Like, I don't know. There's certainly top three in terms of the, you wouldn't be surprised if it happened. The Bengals defense is playing really well this year and they're playing the Saints. They haven't had, you know, quite spectacular highlight worthy plays. But, I mean, you know, either James comes back or it's Annie Dalton, Tase of Hill, when he is throwing. if he does certainly turns it over a lot.
Starting point is 00:37:55 He fumbles a lot. Bengals' defense, I think, really high odds of a turnover, basically no matter who's handling the football. Bears are playing Carson Wentz. Don't think I need to say more than that. And then late breaking in the week, depending what happens at quarterback for Miami, obviously Tua is probably not coming back anytime soon.
Starting point is 00:38:15 If Teddy Bridgewater is not cleared for concussion protocol, the dolphins might be playing like Skyther Thompson again. If that is the case later in the week, if that becomes the case, you could add the Vikings. I'm not sure I play the Vikings if Teddy's playing, but if Skyler Thompson's is playing, yes, I would add the Vikings defense. So there's real options of defense this week. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Good job. Nicely done, team. Emails? Got a few good ones. It's from Austin. Austin. Austin. On Monday, you guys mentioned not one but two players.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I thought I would never hear on this podcast in a million years, and they were mentioned in the same breath. And they both truly encapsulate the burn book selections of Kyle Pitts and Alan Robinson. both Rams linebacker Jake Jervas, who we did not think is real. And Falcons Titan Parker Hesse played for the Iowa Hawkeyes just a couple of years ago. And Iowa was the worst college offense at all of college football this year. Neither Hess nor Jervas played offense.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Neither of them. They were both defense. And they both outscored Allen Robinson and Carl Pitts last week, if you count Javis doing a pick basically. The yards he accrued. Neither than played offense. So Hesse was a defensive line, and Jervas was a safety. And so Kyle Pitts and Alan Robinson were outscored by players who were not skilled enough to be on offense for one of the worst college offenses of the decade. I hate this game.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Oh, my God. Yeah, I wanted to start comparing who I can start over Kyle Pitts each week. Can I just get away with starting Kyle Use Check every week over Kyle Pitts and just straight up having a better season? And by the way, this is awesome. Dom DePasquale, or DePesquale, sorry, I don't know how to pronounce your last name. has now created two incredible websites for us. The first was to see if AI can guess your Myers-Briggs personality type based on your fantasy roster, which amazing shit. And then the second one is he felt our pain for trying to pick tight ends week in and week out.
Starting point is 00:40:15 So he just designed a website that uses the stars to pick your streaming tight end. So you literally are letting the universe pick who you're starting at tight end. And there's a button that instead of, because we were jumping at Google, I'm feeling lucky, picking your tight end. He made a button that just says literally any other tight end. And you can just keep doing that. The website is called please pick my tight end. Space. So it's PLZ PickMyT-E. Dot space. We can put that in the episode description. It was really good. Shout out. Also go ahead and do the Myers Briggs test while you're at it. I love when people just like choose a golden retriever to like make their picks and it looks better than their own.
Starting point is 00:40:52 This octopus is going to make my fantasy roster. I think I just gave Dom his next idea. It's Dom the Porcupine on Twitter. Great job, Dom. All right. We also got an email from Clay. Clay. This one's funny.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Briefly on the Friday show, you mentioned a few Disney Channel original movies, including Craig saying Johnny Sunami. Yep. When my wife and I were scheduling to a lope in 2019, we got in contact with the person who was going to officiate our marriage. Immediately, my now wife, was like, I feel like I've seen this name somewhere.
Starting point is 00:41:27 And after one Google search finds, it was nobody else except the actor who played Johnny tsunami was officiating our elopement wedding. He did an excellent job. We had a wonderful wedding. And even to this day, I have not watched his movie. Oh, you got to. He attached a picture of them getting married to Johnny tsunami officiating their wedding. Wait, is Johnny tsunami like a live action movie or is it a cartoon?
Starting point is 00:41:52 No, no, it's live action. It's about a surfer who's like ends up in Vermont and becomes a snowboarder. Oh my God. It's just officiating their wedding. I thought this was incredible. That's insane. The most random things happen. Craig, he's officiating weddings.
Starting point is 00:42:11 That's what he's up to. Hey, I'm getting married next year. So look him up. Johnny Sonomian appreciates your wedding. Odds are that Liz is into this idea, Craig. Yeah, we should ask Liz. You should ask, you should ask, you should show, Liz Johnny
Starting point is 00:42:25 Johnny tsunami again and they'd be like, hey, just so you know, by the way, he does weddings. I have a better shot of guessing
Starting point is 00:42:31 how far that drive is that the dude hit off the moon than Liz allowing Johnny tsunami to officiate our wedding. Yeah. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:42:42 That sounds right. We also got an email, I just want to throw this out there. We got an email the subject line was your burial insurance. And I was like, this is definitely
Starting point is 00:42:53 about like Josh Jacobs and someone just being mad that I was so down on Josh Jacobs this year, and now he's top five. And it was actually just an ad being like, hey, you guys want burial insurance? Oh, it's like a spam email? It was a spam email. But my mind subconsciously was like, this is about Josh Jacobs. And it's like, nope, it's about burial insurance.
Starting point is 00:43:10 That's funny. We should start something about like fantasy insurance for your takes or for your picks. Well, Craig, you were just explaining it. Would you rather take six points just flat out? This is like fantasy insurance. that would be funny if like you did that to your opponents like you just offered them insurance yeah it's like hedging on a bet kind of right right someone smarter than us could figure this out yeah it's like when you're almost done with a parlay like you only have one leg left and
Starting point is 00:43:41 you can actually just like pay out a portion of your ticket to Vegas instead of yeah we have a lot of lawyers listen to this for any time we do fantasy court a lot of doctors listen this when we pretend to know anything about medicine i'm sure a lot of people who do insurance listen emails at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com with how this would work. Hopefully in English. Okay. Thank you, D.K.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Thank you, Craig. Thank you in advance to all the underwriters' army who come to our aid. Thank you to Josh Jacobson, whoever offered me the burial insurance. Thank you to everyone who emailed in. Thank you, Johnny Sonami. Thank you, Lauren.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Lauren. Thank you, Mike Snow. Mike Snow? Yeah. Don't know that one. Is that because I... That sounds like one of those names that you say Mike Snow and then someone's like, oh, it's like, D's and you're like, D's nuts.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Like, that just sounds up that hour. Is it Mike Snow, the Swedish indie pop band? Maybe it's pronounced Mike. I don't know. I think it is because it's Mike with two eyes. Mika Snow. I apologize if I was mispronouncing this since the early 2000s, but yeah. We are owned by a Swedish company.
Starting point is 00:44:47 That's true. He had, so he had a thing called Animal. like this was in 2009. I was listening to him a lot. And I apologize again if I was mispronouncing your name, Mika or Mike. Did you think of Mika Snow because of Johnny tsunami? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Also, this just reminds me of in the movie Eurotrip, how there's a girl named Mika and the guy thinks it's Mike. So he thinks his pen pal is a guy, but it's actually the love of his life. Mika, nothing? Have you seen Eurotrip?
Starting point is 00:45:18 I saw a long time ago. I haven't seen it in forever. I probably wasn't even old enough to get all of the jokes on a Oh, totally not. I probably saw it when I was like 10 and just like missed every joke. I should watch it again. I'm sure it would be amazing. It's a very funny movie.
Starting point is 00:45:34 I really like it actually. I would re-we could do, we could rewatch that. All right. All right. That's all we got. Okay. Thank you for listening.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Thank you for the patience as we did, uh, not record on Monday. And we'll have power hour later this week. It's pronounced Mike Snow. All right. Sweet. I don't feel so bad now.
Starting point is 00:45:56 All right. Okay. All right, cool. Glad you settled that. All right, goodbye.

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