The Ringer NFL Show - Waiver Wire Targets for Week 9

Episode Date: November 1, 2022

We run through the injuries from Week 8 and offer up our must-add players for Week 9 with our favorite format: Showdown Time. (02:16) - RB Targets (15:02) - WR Targets (29:44) - TE Targets (36:58) - QB and DEF Streamers Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We're going to go position by position. We're just going to give her a top pick at that position, who we would grab from the waiver wire, around 40-per-ish rostered on given platforms. And if we pick the same guy, we're going to do a little trivia tiebreaker so that we're not out of the same person so that we can kind of go through. Who would we would add? Maybe a couple guys we would cut. It's also the trade deadline this week. So a lot of these things might change as we go on.

The trade deadlines tomorrow Tuesday. We're recording this Monday. So keep that in mind with our selections. Obviously, if any trades are made, if like Cream Hunt from the Browns is traded, obviously that changes things. But we're going to go through with what we know on Monday. This week is slim pickings. Six teams run by.

Browns, Cowboys, Broncos, Giants, Steelers, Niners. So at Receiver, that's like a Mark Cooper, Citi, Lamb, Jerry, Judy, Curtin, Sutton, Debo, Brandon Ayuk, a lot of guys. Cooper Cup is an ankle sprain. A lot of receivers, people are hurting. And then running back, Nick Chubb, Sequin, Christian McCaffrey,

Zeke and Tony Pollard. So a lot of rosters are down bad this week. It's going to, oh my God, I'm going to have some really bleak-looking starting lineups this weekend. It's going to be tough. Yeah, the waiver wire really shifts. I mean, it's really ebbs and flows.

Last week, I feel like it was robust, and this week it is a desert. It's so true. It is so true. Let's just start at running back. Let's just like head right into the desert. Obviously there's guys, I don't know. Oof.

Oof. So there's obviously guys, I don't even know if they'd be out here, but that we would probably pick over what's left, but we're doing like 40-ish percent or so. Deonti Foreman, obviously, for the Panthers and even Chuba Hubbard, if those guys are like out there, we'd probably take those guys over what's left. But, you know, if there's good players, go get them.

Well, Chuba qualifies for our game. He's under 40 on ESPN. All right then. Well, we'll see where it comes in. So I may have just shown my cards there, but perhaps you did. Well, then just go, Craig. Who's your number one running back after week eight? It's by default. It's Chuba.

I know he was hurting and he didn't play last week, but he's running back on the Panthers. When he played with Foreman in the first game after McCaffrey left Carolina, I mean, he played more. He was the starter. He doubled Foreman and carries. He was the passing down guy. and although Foreman played really well, I'd have to imagine that at the very least, Hubbard is the third down guy

and then mixing it a little bit on the first two downs. So listen, me recommending a running back share for Carolina, not exactly going to blow your socks off, but I honestly think that might be the best option if you need a guy next week. D.K.? Yeah, to me it comes down to like about four different guys, and I'm going to stick with Hubbard too

just because I think the Panthers' offense is actually playing a little bit better than we expected lately. You know, PJ Walker, Phil Walker, a guy, has them going at least a little bit better than they were earlier. I do think that Foreman's probably going to split reps with Hubbard, and like Craig said, he's probably going to get more of the passing down work. I think that's probably, like, going to be his role.

So there may be a little bit of opportunity there for him here. But like, this is a good example, I think just overall of the week. It's not a good running back week in particular. Like, if you have depth issues at running back, like, we're not going to be able to help you a whole lot here. There's a couple different guys to add, but probably stick with Hubbard for now. Yeah, I'll take Hubbard too.

It's totally uninspiring. And honestly, I think Deonté Foreman, if he didn't already have the job, just will have the job now. But yeah. He's looked awesome. I mean, he has looked really good. Yeah, but he doesn't play on third downs pretty much at all.

So Hubbard will be involved. But again, it's like you could be a great team. But if you have Dick Chub and San Juan, they're both gone. It's like you probably do need a running back. So, all right, trivia time. This is from, oh, no, sorry. Please.

Hands in the air. I wish, I just want to say, I wish his name was Chuba. Chubba Hubbard would have been a lot funny. It is the Chuba Hubbard. The Jazz Fingers. Showdown time. Yeah.

I love that, Jesse. Frozen the hands emoji. All right for Chuba Hubbard. This is from Andrew. Andrew. Thank you, Andrew. Happy Halloween, Andrew. Yeah, we didn't even mention Halloween.

No. If Andrew celebrates. Yes. Yeah, this waiver is outright spooky. All right, it's from Andrew. How long is the recommended length? to cook a single hot pocket in a traditional oven. Oh, wow.

In an oven, not a microwave. Not a microwave. Not a toaster. An oven? An oven. Our hot pockets are frozen, right? I was going to ask that. I think so. It's my first. Yeah. I haven't thought my heaven. You guys are ready. We can all say at the same time. Cooking time? So we're just saying, we're assuming like 350 to 400 degrees-ish.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's part of that. That's part of the question here. I'm firmly going to be in Camp 425. Oh, 425. That's a bit high. That's a bit high. Low and slow, that's the move. That's how you keep it warm on the inside and outside.

You got to get the gooey inside. All right, Craig, you go. What do you got first? I'm going to go with 12 minutes. I was going to say 17. My answer is 20 that I had in my head. The answer is, the answer is 27 minutes. Oh, come on.

Who's going to do that? 225? You're going to Throw that thing in a slow cooker They're not that big That's wild Man I got shaft in there We probably should have known

Based on this question That was going to be like ridiculously high or something Because you gotta like heat it up hot enough To melt the plastic that's inside of it Or whatever the hell's whatever the hell you're eating actually Oh my God 27 minutes

That's like way too much for a hot pocket There's no temperature Instruction I'd love to know how hot It's got to be $3.50 then There's no way they're doing I'm going to go to the official hot pocket website. Hot Pocket heating instructions. What a great question.

I thought it was so funny. I feel like hot pockets are supposed to be something that you eat very quickly. Preheat oven at 350. Oh my God. It actually says 28 minutes. Good Lord. At 350. Is this a freaking lasagna?

What is this thing? I guess because it's frozen. Who in their right mind is cooking this thing in the oven when it takes two to three minutes in the microwave? How many people's human history do you think have done this? Oh, man. Anyway, all right, I get Chuba Hubbard. D.K., you get next here, so you get next pick.

All right, so with him off the table, I think I'm going to go with Caleb Huntley from the Falcons, who he's consistently carried the ball quite a few times last couple of weeks. Obviously, we know the Falcons are going to want to run the football. That's a big part of their identity. He's, I would say, slightly behind Tyler Alger in the rotation there, and he's not going to get a ton of passing game work, but he's been running hard, you know,

and he's been getting a pretty decent volume. So Caleb Huntley would probably be my second choice here. I think that's a good pick. I want to emphasize that he's a super short-term play because there's other running backs that if you have any interest beyond this week, because Cordarrel Patterson and maybe Damien Williams are going to come back soon.

However, for this week, Caleb Huntley, Falcons are playing the Chargers, dude. Philosophically, the Falcons are like these running zealots. And then the Chargers give up like 5.7 yards of carry. So, I mean, yeah, if Caleb Huntley gets double, digit carries against, I mean, what's 5.7 times 15? I don't know. I don't know if we had to acknowledge to figure that out, but it's a lot. So, man, bottom of the barrel here. I would say I'm between, God. So there's this Kyrin Williams thing with the Rams where he got activated off of

VR. He's been practicing. He didn't play last week. And he could play this week. He might. And if he does, I think I would maybe pick him. Although, God, I mean, the Rams running back situation is so bleak. Daryl Henderson this week was outtouched by Ronnie Rivers, who's an undrafted free agent rookie. He was outtouched 10 to 2 in the first half, and they both didn't do anything. I mean, Ronnie Rivers sounds like a porn name.

I mean, for this week, it sounds like the backup choice for Dirk Diggily. Yes. John C. Riley's name in the movie is Ronnie Rivers. I think I'm going to take, I'm not going to take Kyron Williams, because I just don't know anything. I might take Isaiah Pacheco. I'm surprised you didn't take Kenyon Drake. You guys were all about Kenyon Drake a couple weeks ago.

Yeah, Kenyon Drake is another guy I had on the list. He got seven carries, four catches in this last game, and out snapped Gus Edwards, who re-injured his hamstring, or injured his hamstring, which is based on the knee injury. So he could go forward and have, I guess, the quote-unquote, leadback role for the Ravens offense. He's another option, I think, that you could definitely use. If Gus is playing, though, I don't want.

So the problem with Gus, so Gus Edwards, is I do think a good option for like the stretch run because the Ravens are going to either by and then after that they have a lot of good run matchups. But the problem is they're on Monday night football against the Saints and one, that's not a great matchup, but two, you don't know if Gus is going to play until the Monday, so having Kenyon Drake stuff,

having said that, Gus Edwards, big picture, towards ACL, didn't come back for like a month into the season and then in his second game back, heard his hamstring. So like, what are they going to do? Are they going to give him 40, 50% of the snaps? That just feels unlikely their buys next week. Are they, I don't know, it would be really strange to me if Kenyon Drake didn't get at least just as many touches as Gus Edwards.

If Gus Edwards is hurting his hamstring, his second game back from ACL. So I actually think in as much of an annoying situation as Kenyon Drake is to be waiting until Monday to know, I'd rather, if you're down bad and you're in a pinch, I'd rather have Kenyon Drake and some of these other dregs. Kenyon Drake is. Yeah, it sucks to play whack them all with these Ravens running back. It does. It's just like depressing. But I do think, yes, he's a fine. option. The other guy that I would add here,

if you really are in a pinch this weekend, is Latavius Murray for the Broncos, who had 14 carries. The Broncos are on by. Yeah. Well, there you go. So not this weekend, the next weekend then. It's just, oh, God, there's a lot of buys this weekend. My bad. I feel like we're just

cycling through Denver and Baltimore running backs every week, whichever one's, like, going to be the guy who doesn't have a hurt hamstring this week. But, you convince me, I will pick Drake as my third guy. Other guys I was considering, I was, you know, James Cook for the Bills is the number two behind Singletary and the Bills have a really

easy schedule. Cook could play a little bit more. I mean, Jalen Warren, the Steelers are on by next week, but you know, dude, Jalen Warren, you know 24% of Jalen Warren's carries have gone over 10 yards? He straight up just looks better. 8% of Naji's carries have gone over 10 yards.

The thing, well, Naji's not an explosive guy. I will say, the only thing, Jailen Warren, the only caveat is a lot of his touches have come when the Steelers are just like, oh, screw it, we're down by 30. we're just going to give, take Najee out of the game. But that's like half of every game.

Every time, this happened to Sequin when Sequin came back from the ACL and wasn't explosive, where Nageers gets the ball and there's so much juice. So like, nice.

I'm like, oh my God, that's Jalen Warren. Like the best run every Steelers game is not Nage. It's always a Jalen Warren run. And who wants to admit that?

So Jalen Warren, Rashad White, Kairn Williams. Let's order these again. Let's start to your point, Craig, I think one of you mentioned Rashid White.

I want to be super, clear about this. If you needed someone to play this week, I think Caleb Huntley's a good one, Kenyon Drake, but if you're talking about the rest of the season, dude, Isaiah Pacheco, as Craig mentioned for the chiefs, James Cook for the Bills, these are both guys in a similar situation. These are both rookies

on probably the two most explosive offenses in the NFL that are the only other running back getting touches at this point. In Buffalo, it's just Devin Singletary and James Cook, and they came out of the buy, and he's not getting a ton of touches, but if anything happens to Devon Singletary, James Cook's going to have a huge piece of the bill's backfield. And then Isaiah Pacheco is the same deal.

They named them the starter. And it was kind of weird. It didn't matter that much. But now the Chiefs went on by and now the chiefs are back. I have no idea if Pacheco is going to be like the guy. But even if there's a 20% chance, which is reasonable, that they named a rookie the starter, went on by and they come back and it's a big role, even if there's a 20% chance that Pacheco is just like the main guy,

you have to, like, add him and just put him on your bench and see. Because if Pacheco comes out in this game and gets like 20 carries, and 120 yards and two touchdowns, that's the kind of thing that can win you, your league. And it's like, I don't know if that's going to happen, but the upside is so insane that that's the kind of person

I'd rather over my bench than like, I'm trying to think of a board, like a Zay Jones, Marvin Jones, you know what I mean? Absolutely. So that went, Dantrell-Hilliot for the Titans is the same way if Derek Henry gets hurt.

Yeah. All right. So let's read really quickly run through him again in order. Hubbard, Caleb Huntley, Kenyon Drake, Pacheco, James Cook, Karen Williams, Jalen Warren, who's also on by. Rashad White. Did I miss anybody? I will also say, we don't know the trade deadline yet, but to Ernest Johnson for the Browns,

if Cream Hunt ends up getting traded, he's like the guy for Nick Chubb, and he'll probably be playing even more than Creamhunt has been playing. So Dernishon is definitely want to keep it on. It's another good one. Yeah. But yeah, Pacheco and, like a month from now, I think Pacheco and Cook are the guys that have been the most valuable at this point time. Tackle millions and prizes all football season long in Fandall fantasy contest.

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non-unstrobable site credit that expires up to 30 days. Okay, wide receivers. So again, we're going like guys that are like 40-ish percent roster in ESPN Yahoo, but I do quickly want to shout out. Dude, Alan Robinson, back from the dead. Just in case Cooper Cup is his ankle injury. Even if he doesn't.

Listen, I think he's worth rostering. I really do. He is worthy of the last spot on your team. Craig is all in on the Rams. I don't know. I'm loving this. DK, who's your top receiver after week eight for adding? There's actually good options at receiver this week, I think.

And I'm going to start with at the top of my list, Josh Palmer from the Chargers. and it's mainly injury-related. Mike Williams is out for a couple of weeks, at least with what seems like a high ankle sprain. And I think I saw today, Keenan Allen's still not practicing. So who knows when he's going to be back? What happened to him?

Keenan Allen and Michael Taunis are just off somewhere on a vacation. Honestly, just dude, these hamstring, I believe it's a hamstring injury, isn't it? Like, these things are just, they linger, man. They're lingerers. Lingerer. Linger. Yeah, Keenan Allen and not practicing on Monday.

That just doesn't bode well for this week. So basically at the end of the day, Josh Palmer is like the number one receiver on the Chargers. And I don't think he's a super good player. He's more like a role player, but he will probably get the volume that you're looking for in fantasy. So I think I'm going to vote for the volume here and go with Josh Palmer. I had the same one.

Also, they're playing the Falcons in just the same way that the Falcons are playing the Chargers and the Chargers can't stop the run, which is good for the Falcons running backs. Dude, I don't think the Falcons past defense is very good at all. It's probably one of the worst bottom five in the league. So I think that this could I think this could probably be Josh Palmer's best game of the season. It's possible.

Yeah. I just don't think Josh Palmer is very good. I think that Philly in for Keenan Allen was not as good for him as feeding him for Mike Williams. I think that we always talk about the slot being great for guys. I think Josh Palmer's actually been better outside and I think that if he gets to cosplay as Mike Williams and Keenan Allen does play in this game,

that will actually be much better for him. I actually didn't have him. I had Rondale more. Yeah. He's my second number two here. I think he's just straight up better than Josh Palmer. And also, right now, as crazy as this is to say, I feel just as good about Arizona's passing offense that I do about the Chargers.

Maybe the body is going to fix them. The Chargers are completely broken offensively. They can't do anything. All they do is check down. I think Everett and Echler will have good games. I don't particularly feel that confident that Josh Palmer on the outside against A.J. Terrell is going to do anything. I need to see it first from the Chargers. Is Tyrell back?

I don't know if he's going to lie. I screwed up this time, and I would choose Rondale. I didn't realize he was on this thing. I looked wrong. Yeah, I would have Rondale over Palmer. 35% on Yahoo, Rondale right now. I mean, he had the best game of his career last week, 92 yards, touchdown, played out of the slot.

Like, it finally felt like he was in the right role for the Cardinals. With D'Andre back, I feel like it opens up a lot for what they can do with Rondale. And, yeah, I mean, I think he's a startable fantasy player. So the key here with Rondale, which I do like, and it gave me, pause last week because not this last week, but the week before, they used Rondale like on the outside primarily, which doesn't make any sense. He's like five, six, you know?

And in this last game, he played almost all of his snaps in the slot, where he belongs. He was the, he is the de facto number two in this offense now. So I think that's really good. That's, obviously, Bodes Wellfer is, you know, what he's going to do production-wise down the line. So I definitely like the Rondale more thing. But to me, the Palmer one is just more interesting

because he's going to get just fed. But I definitely see why you guys like more here. And I do like both of these picks. Palmer, I'll put it this way. If Palmer doesn't start being good soon, it's going to feel like fetch. It's like everyone wants him to be a thing. And it's like, okay, cool.

I'm with you, but like he better be a thing soon. Also, like, I don't know, DeAndre Carter has outperformed Josh Palmer every step of the way. I'm not positive that it's not going to be him that leads the team in receiving. I agree. I think that Josh Palmer is better suited

to be replacing Mike Williams than he was to do Keen and Allen. But you guys, you guys are going to do. Do a showdown on Rondale then. Let's hear it. I can't believe that D.K. is the one not involved in the Rondale Moore showdown. What a world?

I have washed my hands of Rondale Moore for the benefit of everyone in the world. Everybody, every player that D.K. likes who doesn't be good immediately, Dika kind of abandons them after like a year. Except for Justin Fields. He just kind of just doesn't know really quickly. This is me overreacting to last year being excited about Rondale Moore. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You love Marquis Brown. He had a hot start and then was worse.

And then you were done with him. I don't think Rondale Moore is. bad. I think Rondell Moore is good. I'm just abstaining from the Rondell Moore hype is what I'm saying. So it is the Rondell Moore spooky showdown time. Okay, so do you want me to do this one? Yeah, fire one at us here. Um, no hot pockets. All right, here we go. Here's a good one. There's, uh, no name attached to this. So we're just going to have to say thank you to whoever sent this. It was a ghost. Yeah. Ooh. spooky. How many buildings in New York City have their own zip code?

Speaking of zip codes, high fits, knows them all. How many buildings have their own zip code? Feels like there's more to the story here. Why do the buildings have their own zip code? My first question was I didn't know they had. That's insane. Yeah. Because they're huge.

No, I think, well, I have my answer in my head. Well, great. The guy who fucking grew up in New York. You know, like, I'm always the one who guesses first. Hyphids, you guess it. Well, I have my answer, and you guess, and I'm just going to say what I'm thinking no matter what. I did that before.

Yeah, but I need to anchor myself to your answer. I don't want you to anchor himself to me. I want to hear what you think. Six buildings. Oh, my God. That's what I was going to say. Oh. Okay.

Well. Seven. Or you can go higher. Highford. Price is righted you after refusing to let you prices right here. I'll stick with six and you go higher or lower. You can decide. No.

I picked first so I get the number I decide. I'm not letting you just have that number. I get six. You can price or write me and you're not going to do it? Well, it doesn't matter because if it's over sick, like, do you think it's under six or over six? All right. I'll say it's no.

I want six. Fine. I'll do seven. All right. Fine. Because here's why. Here's my logic. I know for fact,

the Empire State Building definitely has one. World Trade Center. World Trade Center definitely has one. I'm guessing like MetLife has one. And if I can think of three, my logic is there has to be three more. MetLife. Is it MetLife in New Jersey?

Well, the stadium. But like they also have a big building right by Grand Central. Honestly, Grand Central might have its own thing. So I'm like there has to be, like Madison Square Garden probably has its own zip code. Well, I appreciate you guys doing the whole Sherlock Holmes thing and trying to deduce how many it is.

It's 42. So you were going to take a while to get up there. 42 buildings. So high fits one. wins. That's a lot. That's more than I thought. Wow. I'm really getting taken behind the woodshed today. I gave you the chance. You're like, no, I want six. Well, it's like, listen, you made me pick first, so I wanted to actually stick, because if it ended up being six, I would have never forgiven myself. Yeah, I get that. All right. That's like if you cut Cal fits. Yeah, stick to my wits.

So I get Rondale. I get Rondale, D.K., you have Josh Palmer, so Craig, you got to, you got to pick third receiver here. I think there's another good option here. there's a couple. There's Alec Pierce, and then there's Nico Collins. And I kind of want to take Nico Collins because on the off chance that Brandon Cooks gets traded, Nico Collins becomes the number one receiver on the team. And even if he doesn't, even if Cooks doesn't get traded,

I mean, Nico Collins is averaging over 50 receiving yards a game right now, just straight up. He's got over 300 yards on the season. He's played six games. Like, Nico Collins is a solid player. He's on the field all the time, and he's the opposite of Brandon Cooks. He's like enormously tall, big red zone threat type guy.

So I'm going to go with Nico Collins because I actually think his ceiling is higher than somebody like Alex Pierce. You're such a weird obsession with the Texans. I know. He missed us last week with an injury, but I assume he's probably getting close coming back, right? I don't think I could depend on Texans.

I'm surprised. I thought you're going to go Devin Duverne for the Ravens, whose name I never get right? Duverne. I don't ever know what I'm getting out of him. He's just... No, but Rashad Bateman is hurt now.

Rashad Bateman had a foot injury on Thursday night, and again he already missed a couple weeks of foot injury came back. He's going to be out at least a couple weeks, probably out a few weeks.

And I think every week the Bateman's out, Devin DuVernay has like a way bigger role. And also Mark Andrews is banged up. I'd rather roll with Devin DuVernay. He's never getting a lot of yards, but it just feels like they always give him the ball around the goal line,

like on designed and arounds or just like these screens. And he just, every time he's like also a really good returner for them, and I feel like he's just good with the ball in space. Ian Hart, it's always jokes.

that like Devin Duvernay is going to have 25 touchdowns by like week 16 and we're still going to be debating if we should add him or not. He scores every week but he gets like three touches. I don't know. Yeah. I got a couple of others to throw out here. Teres Marshall for the Panthers who has inherited like a pretty major role

in the offense after they traded away Robbie Anderson. So he has, he got nine targets, four catches, 87 yards this last week. He has in the last two weeks, he has 12 targets, which is second on the team. 21% target rate. So he's actually, I don't know if it's reliable at this point, but again,

this is a former second round pick. He's still just 22 years old. He did not play very much at all his rookie year, and he's been kind of stuck behind a bunch of guys to start out this season. But he has a starting role now. He's the number two pass catcher in the Panthers' offense. And so I think he's at least worth a speculative add

to see if this kind of continues to go up, like if he can kind of establish himself as the opposite guy from DJ Moore. I think he's, like, Would you rather have Devin Duverne or Terrace Marshall? Duverne? Why can't I say his name right? I don't know what you're wrong.

It's not like a hard name. Duverne. Duverne. You almost say it like you're trying to have a French accent when you say it. I do. I don't know why. This one I'll submit I'm wrong. Although every time, I've noticed more and more people pronounce Jaguars,

like how Craig does it, the Jaguars. Like it's like Lizzie McGuire. That's how I say. Yeah. How do we pronounce it so differently? I don't know. If it says Jaguar, I bet. Jaguar.

Duvianne. God, Taylor. I would rather have Teres Marshall simply just because of the usage again. And I know that the joke, the Ian Hardest joke is actually very good because he'll just continue to score points and everything. I will take, can you say that? That was actually really nice to what he's Devin's name. Duvely all nay. Deilvold.

Also, Van Jefferson is back. I don't know if he's ever going to touch the football, but Cooper Cubs hurt, so, like, who knows? And then Darius Slayton, the Giants are on by, but he's the number of receiver for the Giants now. I don't know what took so long. He's been the best guy in this team for a while. Also, Tyquan Thornton and the Pats,

Devonte Parker hurt his knee, didn't come back. They said that Parker, his knee injury, he's only going to miss one game max and then they're on by. Thornton's obviously very, very fast. So, but we'll see because we'll see if Parker ends up playing. I think Wondell Robinson's is still a good ad, too. He didn't have the production, but he had the snaps, and he was on the field for the whole game.

Would you rather have Slaten or Wondale, though? It's a good question. I think Slaten just by a hair. I think I'd rather have Slayton, yeah. Okay, so the receivers were going for our, D.K. likes Josh Palmer, Craig and I like Rondale more over Josh Palmer, and then Devin Duvernerner, or however you say it for the rib,

Devin de Vernard. Alec. Alec Pierce for the Colts. D.K. likes Terrace Marshall for the Panthers. I like him too, but D.K. likes it more than I do. Van Jefferson for the Rams is still alive. And then Darius Slaten and Wandae Robinson for the Giants are on bye. But sure, if you want him, go for it.

But like, we'll... Did you say Nico Collins? Orleans. Oh, I did not. I ignored him. Nico Collins, too, yeah. Nico. You know what I, every time I look at him, his name on waivers and think about Grand The Toto Four.

It's like, Nico, my cousin. Welcome. No? I never played GTA. But that commercial was like, burned in my brain when we were kids, no? That was like such a big deal in GtA4. I'm getting nothing from Craig, Greg's not a video game night.

I really not. I never played. I played like Madden and Super Smash Brothers growing up. That was like all I did video games wise. There's a lot. I'm very confident a lot of ghosts right now, listening to this podcast. They're like, yes, yes, Nico, my cousin. To be honest, I don't think my, I don't think my mom bought my brother and I any shooter games. I think she just wasn't a fan of those. So I never played it in those growing up. Yeah, my mom didn't want to, but she bought it. Yeah, I haven't played video games since like the mid-aughts, so I don't know.

Well, you were playing what, Pong? That was good. But I actually have played Pong. I played Pong too. Did you see that some researchers took? Like Atari and shit was popular when I was a little kid. I will say. I am kind of old.

Did you see some researchers took some like neurons like from human brains and like rat brains and like rat brains and just taught them to play Pong? Yeah. Like rat neurons just play Pong? It's pretty nuts. I mean, it's a simple game. I was really good at the original Super Mario Brothers. Craig's, like, not impressed by the rats. Oh, I had a Nintendo growing up,

and I've played so much Super Mario 64, I am an expert. I was an Xbox guy, but then when you go to college and you've been playing Xbox, and then everyone there is like, it's like you try to play Super Smash, but it's like you're showing up to beat Bain in the dark,

and it's like everyone else has grown up in the darkness, and it's like, you can't. It's like the learning curve to get good at Smash, if you didn't grow up playing smash? It feels impossible. Yes. Hot take. I don't even, actually this is not a hot take.

Maybe all my Super Smash heads out there, let me know. Melee on GameCube is the best smash. All right. So as an outside observer, I feel like everyone's favorite smash is the one that they had growing up and or are just the one that they're best at. No, because thank you. So Jesse says that's not a hot take.

Well, I grew up originally with the original smash Bros on Nintendo, which is great. I thought GameCube's melee perfected it, and the physics are right. And then it gets messed up. Brawl and Wee's not good. And the rest of them are whatever. But I thought,

I thought melee was the best one. Email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com if you have thoughts on Super Smash Bros. Or any video games. Titans! It's a huge deal. There's one big fat pick. Okay.

Craig, just go. Give us your big fat pick. It's Isaiah likely. Oh my God, yeah. I would hurt people. I would hurt people to get Isaiah like that way. Jeez. If Mark Andrews is out.

Yeah. Isaiah likely is like a revelation. I mean, he's probably the top five tight end, right? Immediately? I think, yes. Yeah, because here's the thing. It's not saying a whole lot, but yeah. No, but.

So we liked, in the preseason, he had like 144 yards in a touchdown. This Bucks game that the Ravens just played on Thursday, it looked like a preseason game. Like Mark Andrews got hurt. Isaiah likely just stepped in, and he just was open all the time. It looked like a preseason game the way he was moving. Just, I actually think you're right, Craig. Like, if every game injures misses Isaiah, likely is like very easily, if Kelsey and Andrew's at the top tier, I feel like very easily

Kelsey's the top tier and Isaiah likely is right there with anyone in the second tier. I agree. The only thing that sucks is after this week's game, they have a buy, like we said earlier, talking about Duvernay. So there's a chance that you might only get them for a week if Mark Andrews is back after their vibe, but you know, you can only do what you can do. Here's my question, D.K. I feel like Isaiah likely was so good that they actually have to start getting in the ball,

even if Mark Ange's is healthy. He straight up seems like the second best player on the team. Yeah, they've no receivers anyway. Why aren't they just doing two tight-end sets and making him run routes? I think the real answer is they weren't sure if they could how much they could, like, trust him and deal with him. And I think that that one game, he was so good that come out of their buy, I kind of think, considering Bateman's foot is hurt, there's no way they can't get likely the ball more.

Like this team, he's so obvious. He's so good. Yeah, I mean, I kind of think he would be the best tight end on like, 27 teams. Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting because he just hasn't been running very many routes prior to this last week. So it's like he's certainly not reliable in fantasy. Maybe, I don't know, schematically, like maybe it's like he just plays too similar

of a role to Andrews that are just like kind of redundant. I'm not really sure exactly why they haven't used him more. Or maybe he's just not a good enough blocker. You know, I'm not sure. But I do agree with you guys. Like, get your best players in there. He's clearly one of their best pass catchers, like, already. The way he moves is he doesn't feel like a tight end.

He just feels like a big receiver. Like he's very athletic after the catch. He can get himself open in the middle, get a good feel for like soft spot in the zone kind of deal. And so, yeah, I think this guy's got a very bright future. And in the meantime, when Andrews is gone, which I think we can assume we'll miss at least one game. But I'm 100% sure on that.

We've got an 11-day gap between Thursday and Monday at football. So if Andrews is out, he is for sure, like Craig said, like probably going to be rank him in the top five, top six, seven, like something like that. He's going to have potentially a huge game. So, yeah, likely it was my number one guy here too. Oh, as he said that, I just saw Rochuan Smith from the Bears,

was traded to the Ravens. Not that that impacts us, but. Well, yeah, he's very good. He'll be very good there. Okay. So Isaiah likely showed out time. This is the most exciting show on time I felt. Yeah.

Especially at the tight end position. Like, how often is there a sexy tight end ad? It feels like winning the lot. If you get Isaiah Likely. It is the Isaiah likely Showdown time. Yeah. It's from Lee.

Lee. Oh, you got to let me know if we've done this one for it. How many acting credits does Samuel L. Jackson have an IMDB? I don't think we've done it. I believe he's in the most movies ever. I don't know if that's correct, but I believe that is true.

That's, I, man. So he's, so he's older than he seems, right? I bet you he's like 73. or something. Oh, my God. And he's been acting, oh my God. So he's been acting for like 50 years. Let me look at how old is he? He is 73. Look at me. Wow.

Holy shit. Someone produces the rewatchables. Oh my God. I don't even know. I mean, like, my only question is, is it like in the thousands? Like, does that work too high? I always gets too high. I've got my answer. I want to say, 607. That's probably too high, but we'll say. I was going to say like 300.

Yeah, I was going to say around 300 as well. I'm going to say, so can I now prices are at high if it's it? Yeah, price or right me. I'm going to say $2.99. 203. Oh, that was way less. No, I was thinking.

Damn, so Craig gets Isaiah likely. Huge for me. Oh, son of a bitch, Craig. Motherfucker. Okay, so I was by far the furthest way, right? Yeah, so I get next step. So I'll take Evan Engel, just because it's like Isaiah likely,

but like the extremely, extremely sad version of Isaiah likely. If Isaiah likely, we're not cool. He's the tied in 14 this year, Evan Ingram. He is the definition of the Amendoza line. He's like 50 yards every game. Dude, he's actually like a bigger part of every

Jaguars game. It's just like Trevor Lawrence has been so bad near the goal line, but like Evan Ingram actually should have two touchdowns last week. He's super solid. All right, D.K., are you going to go back to your Tyler Conklin well? We would have said Greg Dolswich, however, he's on by. Yeah.

Yeah, I was going to say, If I have to have a guy for this week, I'm going with Tyler Conklin, who once again produced. Blackamol. And then if I'm not going with him, I would definitely grab. I mean, I think regardless, grab Dulcich, because he's already looking like, you know, top 6,7 type guy. Right now, he's fifth in points per game in PPR. That's obviously a very small sample, but, you know, they're utilizing him downfield, doing the things that you want him to do.

Do you think that since Greg Dulcich is the only person that has chemistry with Russell Wilson that Greg Dulcich must be very weird as a person. Like he's the only one that seems to be on Russ's wavelength. So like what does that mean about Greg Dulcich? He's the only one who could sleep on the plane while Russ was doing high knees?

Maybe that, yeah, it's a heavy sleeper. What's going on with Cortland Sutton? He started out the year so strong and he's just falling off the map. Do you want to know? Here. Oh, I have a bunch of, you want to know? The Broncos offense, I mean,

they're last in everything. Except they're first in the, like, punts per drive, but they're last in like every stat, but the one that I like the most, they're last in the most basic one, points per drive, which is more or less at Russell Wilson's job, right, points per drive? They are behind the 2008 Detroit Lions in points per drive. Is that the team that went Owen 16? The Owen 16 Detroit Lions were having more points per drive than the Broncos. Yikes. And the Tim Tebow Broncos were miles ahead of them in points per drive and just points

at this point in season. I mean, they did win this last week. Credit to the Broncos. No, Russell did nothing. They won because Trevor Lawrence threw a pick at first and goal on the one yard line, and the game would have effectively been over from that point.

Okay. So tight ends, again, Isaiah likely if he's out there, if Mark Hage's misses, Isaiah likely is like the best tight-in streamer for a week all year. Evan Engram, Tyler Conklin, and then beyond that, I mean, I don't know. Godspeed.

Quarterbacks, it's not a huge quarterback streamer. week because not that many quarterbacks are on by this week. It's like, you know, Dak, Russ. If you have Dak or Russell Wilson, you've probably already sought of another guy. However, Justin Fields, man. Justin Fields was available in like three quarters of ESPN leagues. And he's just straight up probably a top 12, top 10 quarterback the rest of the way. Like he's got the garbage time potential. He can run. He's second in carries, second of yards, second in rushing yards, second and rushing touchdowns. Like, he's, he's the guy for the second half.

Yeah, he's been running a ton, which is obviously. gives him the foundation of the floor for a good fantasy day. He's still very hit or miss as a passer, but 21 points per game last three weeks. Well, they're running. Yeah, no, they discovered their 6-4-240 quarterback as a cyborg. He's so fast. He broke 20 miles

an hour this last week. Again, I just don't get it. I don't want to get it. Do you want to go on your rant about how coaches don't know how to use their own players? I just don't understand why it took a year and a half. We saw this in college. Like, it could have, it would have taken me one day to realize this guy should be utilized in the running game. And it's taken the bears.

Granted, it's two different coaching staffs. So I don't know what the hell's going on there. Took them a year and a half to figure it out. Like, what are we doing here? That's all. Yeah, I think Fields, if you can get Fields, go Fields. Would you rather have Justin Fields or Gino Smith for the rest of the season? Gino.

I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it, too. You guys have made fun of me for ranking Gino high in our rest of season rankings, and we didn't even have Justin Fields on there. I didn't. Craig did. Craig offline told me he would bet his balls that Danny Kelly had Justin Fields ranked the highest. It was true, I did.

And now I missed this. Okay, Gino, the last three weeks, 1914, 12. Let's all settle down. Okay, defense is the stream. Dude, speaking to which, weirdly, the Seahawks defense against Arizona, it's crazy to suggest the Seahawks, Steve. But, like, I don't know, the quarterback in Seattle.

They have, they've been good. They've like double-digit points, depending on the- doesn't the rookie corner on the Seahawks lead to league in interceptions? They're incredible and like they're lengthy. Tarik-Wollen? Yeah. Dek, don't the Seahs quarterbacks kind of seem like perfect to stop the Cardinals? It's like everything Kyler does is with the Hopkins,

and I feel like they're lengthy and big enough to fight DeAndre Hopkins. I don't know. I feel like their Cardinals aren't going to be able to pass much on them. I don't want to jinx anything. I don't know. They are certainly playing better than they were at the beginning of year. Like, during the beginning of year, they couldn't stop anything. Like, they were the worst season.

defense in the NFL full stop. But now they've definitely been better over the last three weeks. I mean, we watched this in the Giants game. Like, they did pretty well at stifling what the Giants want to do. Of course, the Giants don't have good receivers. But, yeah, I mean, I think they're definitely making strides. And the Cardinals' offense is just, it's not good. Like, it's just so discombobulated constantly.

Yeah. Also, I don't know if I would recommend this, but I do think the Chief's defense is interesting against the Titans if Tannahills skimpy, because I don't think the the chiefs are going to be like, yeah, we'll just let Derek Henry run for 200 yards again. It's like they're going to make like a hobbled Ryan Tanna. He'll beat them, or Malik Willis, whatever they do. But I'm not saying I'd recommend that, but it's a tough week to stream defenses.

There's not a lot of great options. So maybe just stick with whatever you got. Okay. You guys want a couple emails? Yes, do it. We don't have a ton today, but I just wanted to follow. We talked last week about random C and like D-list celebrity encounters. I wanted to just rip through.

a few. Some of these were just very funny to be. This from Andrew. Andrew. Andrew. Andrew. Andrew. With Andrew. I was at a bar in Los Angeles standing and trying to jockey for position when a guy behind me kept shouldering into me to try to get past me. And I'm not a small guy. So after

he kept shouldering me, I turned around and was going to give him like the big, tall guy's stare down to let him know, like, stop. And I turned around. It was Chuck Liddell for a U.S. U.S. U.S. U.S. U.S.C. fighter ever. Oh, that would have been bad. I thought that was really funny. So he let Chuck Liddell go. Seth said that Tiger Woods stepped on my foot

walking into a restaurant at the MGM in Vegas, and Tiger Woods apologized. Had to hit it off a Frankenstein's fat foot. Not exactly a C-list celebrity, but I'll accept it. No, I thought that was fun. Quint said that he was in a mall with his friends in high school and in the Bowes store and he walks in, and Biz Marky walks into the Bose store with his entourage,

sits in one of the massage chairs, and just posts up. Wow. Oh, yeah, that's sick. RIP. Guy went to Ball State, which I guess Ball State's in Muncie, Indiana. And in 2006, they had the show called Armed and Famous, which is where celebrities

could join the Muncie Police Department. And he's at a bar. What the hell? And Weeman is there. And he wants to buy Weeman a drink. He's like, no, man, I'm not allowed to drink while we're filming. Well, America is... Good for Weeman. America's pathetic. This is the worst

country. Yeah. Craig. We're just like... Just describing the reality. TV shows in this country tells you a lot. You want to join Muncie's police department? Come on it.

What the fuck? How many reality shows like, can you imagine what isn't getting greenlit on the reality TV TV? Oh, God. You imagine? The most depraved pitches of all times. The most Los Angeles job I met

of anybody while I was living in LA was I had my roommates, this girl that my roommate was seeing, worked at, I forget what studio. It might have been CBS, I forget, but she was literally one of the, the people who tested courses

for all like the challenge type courses that they put on shows. So if they do American Ninja Warrior, she has to like test the course or like anything weird. So literally she was like, we were at a party and she was like telling me like,

yeah, Monday at work. I'm going to have to like swim through a pool of chocolate pudding. She's just the most amazing athlete you've ever met. Is she an athlete? Yeah. I feel like she's a stunt double type person.

She's like a former gymnast. Yes. It was very outdoorsy. But, like, it wasn't all American Ninja Warrior. It was, like, swimming through chocolate pudding. And, like, she had to test, like, the floor is lava and all that shit. I had a- I had a phase where I was very into American Ninja Warrior. Like, there was probably, like, six months there where I, like, watched it religiously.

I always thought that wipeout had so much potential as a show. I didn't like to wipe out. But they made it so corny and hacky. And I thought it was, they just, like, they made it, like, a Nickelodeon show. And they just should have treated it like a crazy, you know, obstacle course. And instead, they tried to make it, like, funny. but I like, I would love them. That should be a bachelor party destination.

You should be able to just go to the wipeout course. That reminds me. We had a guy who was a producer for one of the major networks. I don't even remember. It's like during the 90s and 2000s. And he emailed telling me, Andy Hyphets and you, the full story. It was me mostly because I was talking about how I love these dating shows from the early 2000s, like Rock of Love.

He emailed me giving the whole breakdown of like the timeline of all. parts of that reality TV like whatever genre and so I want to say thanks for that that was very intriguing. It was really the golden age of reality TV like the early 2000s. Yeah, there was a million of those shows. I had completely forgotten about like 90% of them.

There's so many like dating shows like celebrity dating shows. The one with the former rapper and I can't remember his name off the top of my head. Flavor Flav? Yes, the Flavre Flav series of like shows. there was like multiple flavor-flaved ones. My God. So amazing.

Dude, the comedy's central roast of flavor-flav was something to behold. I never saw that one. It was really good. The emails at Ringer Fantasy Football at GBO.com if you have random. The D-LIS celebrity TV. This is fun. I could do this for like another 10 minutes.

Can I give you one more that I thought that really tickled me? Yes. I'm going to leave this person's name out, but nine years ago, I was leaving a bar in my hometown of Mountain View, California, and someone stopped me and put it. a hand on my shoulder. I turn around and it's like raining UFC lightweight champion BJ Penn. Oh, wow. Who was very good and very famous. And he stopped me to vouch for his identity because he didn't

have his idea on him and the bouncer at a bar was giving him a hard time. It would not let him in. And I think this is so funny because it's the opposite of every celebrity story ever where it's like, you go up to a person, you're like, are you that person? They're like denying it. Yeah. I think it's so funny that BJ Penn comes up to you and you like, hey, hey, tell this guy I'm BJ Penn. I just think it's like a celebrity being like, aren't I? It's like, aren't I Joel McHale? Tell this person. Oh, man. That should help be, that that should be how you qualify for the Joey Pants Award. You can only be a Joey Pants if you have to get somebody else in line to vouch for your identity as a celebrity, then you qualify. It's pretty good. All right. That's all we got.

everyone for emailed us for all the local celebrity stuff. Email us about reality TV shows. Thank you, DK, thank you, Craig. Thank you, Jesse for production help. Thank you, Lauren. Lauren. Thank you, Grizzly Bear. Nope.

How have we done that? Well, who's that? You tell me, Hyphitz. I don't remember. I just remember. Google Grizzly Bear two weeks. I just Google grizzly bear. And it came up and it was like, surprised.

This is a bear. This is a bear. It was just surprised. I was like, oh, yeah, right, bears. Two weeks while we wait for the others. Those are my two favorite. I like Gris, who has nothing to do with Grizzly Bear. I'm listening right now.

It took two weeks. I'm just reading the Wikipedia page for Grizzly Bears. They kind of have the same vibe as, who's that band that does all the insane music videos where it's like Dominoes? Okay, go, yeah, okay, go vibes. I don't know, okay, go. You don't?

You see it. You know the ones where they jumped the treadmills that was like super viral, like, yes, a year ago? Yes, I think I know what you're talking about. Then they did the Rube Goldberg one. Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

What do you think, Craig? Do you like it or what? Yeah. It very much sounds like late aughts, early 2010s, kind of like. This is 2009, yeah. Yeah. Like passion pit. Yes, exactly.

Like fun, remember them? Yeah, yeah. Okay, this is not at all what we're talking about. So I was looking at least on grizzly bears. And any time on the grizzly bears, I like always think about alligators, because, like, my great fear, like the animal I'm most afraid of is like alligators or crocodiles.

Oh, wow, really? Yeah, there's nothing you can do. Oh, my God. I'm just like, it's, you ever seen archer? It's like, they survived the KT extinction, Cyril. But the creepiest thing I've learned about alligators, you know when, like, their heads up on the water

and, like, you know, you just obviously, you just see, like, their face and their eyes in something and, like, they're obviously lurking. I've always just assumed that they were, like, horizontal. But they're, like, hanging down. They're kind of standing up like a bear. they're actually standing and like their little arms and something about them being more like human-like standing

waiting to be. Just standing there in the water? It's so much creepier to me. Are they standing or they floating? They're floating. I'm going to bring my second monitor all the way around and just show you this. Look at that.

Oh, that is weird. They're standing. Is it like horrifying to think about that it's standing waiting? It's not like way scarier. I don't like that. It's so scary. You got Craig. I still don't think they're the scariest,

but I live in the Northwest. We don't have fucking alligator. Yeah, that's why. It's like, man, you're going to South Carolina. We've got to talk to Kevin Clark about this. Let's have a full Florida episode soon. I don't, yeah, but if you're from Florida, you're kind of like by nature, self-selection,

not afraid of gators because there's just so many gators, you know? Gators aren't even in my top five of animals. What are your top five? I think number one is probably sharks. Yeah. Sharks, I'm like, I'm not afraid of sharks as much. Because it's like, I don't know. It's just like, don't fuck with a shark and it'll be fine.

Well, you don't really have a choice when you're in the water. You just have to pray the shark doesn't want to fuck with you. Shark attacks are like rare, though. Well, yeah. Alligators, man, I don't know if they're rare, but. I don't like cougars. I don't like mountain lions. I think that's the scariest animal.

Such like a suburban Washington answer. Well, yeah, there's woods around me with cougars in them. I just rewatched the edge with Anthony Hopkins. You guys see that one in Alibaldwin? It's a great one. Yeah, the bear. Bears. Yeah, bears are, no joke.

Bart the bear. Bart the bear is like the Michael Jordan of Bear actors. Yes. Who is Bart the Bears? He's been in like 20 movies. He's the Leo of Bears. Yes. He's the Sam Jackson of Bears, if you will.

Anthony Hopkins had like glowing reviews of Bart. So he was like incredible. I'm sorry. The fact that I know Bart the Bear, like tells you how famous Bart the Bear way. Wait, so this is a bear that was in all these movies? Yes. It was Bart the bear. The bear.

He was unreal. Who's like the person deciding I'm going to get this bear into film? Who does that? He just had, there was something about him. Oh my God, I'm on his Wikipedia. This is crazy. This is maybe, dude, this is a rewatchable thing.

The people who all appear in opposite films with Bart are Robert Redford, Morgan Freeman, Dan Aykroyd, Daryl Hannah, Ethan Hawke, Stephen Seagall, Brad Pitt, Alec Baldwin, Anthony Hopkins. Dude, listen, this is Anthony Hopkins who has worked with Bart in two movies. This is a comment on his time with Bart. Hopkins was absolutely brilliant with Bart.

He acknowledged and respected him like a fellow actor. He would spend hours just looking at Bart in admiring him. He did so for many of his own scenes with Bart. That sounds exactly right. Apparently there's a Bart the Bear, too. There's a second Bart the Bear. Dude, Anthony Hopkins has a giant bear thing

in his office in Westworld, and I wonder if Anthony Hopkins, like personally requested that. Probably did. Wow. Oh, he was the one in Legends of the Fall, too. Wow. Does Bart have an IMDB?

It's a good question, maybe. He's grossed over $31 million in the United States. Oh, my God, he does. Oh, my God. The bear is an IMDB. The bear has an IMTB. Dude, Bart has an Oscar nomination. Yes.

Awesome. What do you mean? What do you mean is an Oscar? For what? He's a bear. His Wikipedia. The bear was a hit in both Europe and United States. The movie he was entitled The Bear.

And it reportedly resulted in an Oscar nomination for Bart, which he was unable to go to because animal actors are precluded from receiving the Academy Awards. Oh, I thought he was like, he had like a schedule conflict or something. Too busy. He's hibernating. He's not really into that whole scene. Oh, God. Bart the Bear was 9 foot 7

9 foot 7 That's an enormous bear Wow All right Well shout up Bart the Bear All right Bye everyone Wait wait

It says Bart the Bear was recommended By Ernest Gold So he's recommended for an Academy Award In the special achievement category For the movie The Bear Can you imagine being like a person At the Oscars thinking you're going to be in the running For special achievement

And they're like getting to a bear Beats you Wait what that happens in a movie What movie does that happen and where someone's waiting for the war? Did they give it to like a dog? I don't know.

What movie is this? Good question. Sounds like something from like Ragnarok or something. I don't know. Someone is yelling, the list of this podcast is yelling at the answer right now. Emails.

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