The Ringer NFL Show - Way-Too-Early 2025 Fantasy Rankings, and Zendaya is Meechi

Episode Date: February 17, 2025

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You are probably listening to this next week because... Well after that. Well after that. Well after that. So we're going to do blind fantasy rankings. We're in studio in L.A. Craig's going to kill me. And so we're going to...

Craig's going to murder me. We've been together for about seven days straight. Craig's going to destroy me. So anyway, we're going to go through and we're going to do blind top rankings. Craig, do you want to explain the fantasy exercise we're about to do. We each made our top 20. We're only going to talk about the top 20. 10 are fantasy rankings for 2025.

We made the effort to not look at anyone else's projections, no other outside sources, nothing. We just wanted to do this from the gut. Build your top 20. You can look at all the stats from last year, all that stuff, anything you want. You just can't look at anybody else's 20, 25 projections, so you can't be anchored by anything.

So we did that. We threw them all in a spreadsheet, and now we're seeing for the first time what everybody else chose. So I want to start, and yeah, I've not looked at you guys' thing till right now. So I want to start. We all have the same top two,

which is we all have Sequin Barclay and Jamar Chase, top two. Craig and I both have Seekwan 1, Jamar Chase 2 DKs, Jamar Chase 1 Sequin 2 I don't really care I wanted to draft

Jamar first no matter what I switched it today It took like less than a month Yeah It took him winning the Super Bowl I think like Pull the quote of it

It was like I'm drafting Jamar Chase first No matter what In his defense Saquan Barclay since he said that Literally has 560 yard runs Oh okay that's fair Which is like I don't know if you know

That's a lot I mean that's more than most people I've ever had a entire career Outside of injury I don't really see a scenario in which Sequin doesn't run for like 1,800 yards next year. We'll get to this too. I have, I also, I put A.J. Brown, like, really high in this exercise. I have him, so crazy.

You have him six. You have A.J. Brown 19th. D.K., you have him 15th. I have A.J. Brown sixth. And I thought about it a lot. Wow. And you know where I came to. I understand there's injury stuff.

But you know what? The reason I have A.J. Brown at six. It's very simple. The same way that you went into last season, you look at the lions. and the best thing you could have done was probably just go and get the lions. Like, go get Jamir Gibbs and go get, you know, Amman Russ St. Brown. Brown. You're like, this team's going to score the most points. There is something when a team wins a dominant Super Bowl that goes in the next season.

And they just always start 11 and O and lead the league in points and just lead the league in yards. And in theory, you're like, oh, well, A.G. Brown, he's knee injuries sometimes and Sequin's going to score and Jelinehart's going to score. I don't care. I feel really confident the Eagles will lead the league in points next season. And I just want the otherworldly, like, LeBron James-esque player on that offense, who I see, absolutely physically dominate and like a Monras, St. Brown, will absolutely bitch for the ball and touchdowns when he's not getting them, which is an underrated aspect of fantasy football.

When there's like a nice receiver like Terry McLorren and the season's going, well, he's not complaining that they're winning. AJ Brown up 17-0 in the Super Bowl and is like, I want the ball. And he's right and he gets the ball. Like the passing game is going to funnel through AJ Brown no matter what, as long as the years are playing. And so, yeah, I have a number two. If you want to quibble with me with like, you know, you could put Justin Jefferson higher.

I'm like, Justin Jefferson's going to have J.J. McCarthy with his first season as a starter. I'm like, I just watch the Eagles score 40 freaking points in the Super Bowl. They're going to score 40 points probably four times next season. I just want A.G. Brown in this dominant season. I feel so confident he's going to be a top six receiver. So just you have him as your number two wide receiver. Yeah. I just want my thing is they, I said this the other day.

He doesn't do the ball enough. Jalen hurts through the ball 16 times a game. Don't care. You know, he was. AJ Brown this year was 27th in targets per game. I know, it's just vibes. I mean, they won the Super Bowl yesterday. I mean, maybe.

I don't care, man. We got it. I watched it. I don't know. 27th in targets for game. Oh, someone did math. I thought we were going off vibes here.

We were, but I didn't look at any projections. I'm just saying he was 20. This was a stat I gave in New Orleans. It was the last thing I did. I moved him up because I was looking at it. I'm like, so where do you have? You have a 19th? Who are the 18 players you have over again of AJ Brown?

You want to read them all? Guys that are getting more targets. No. I mean, it's a dumb. I mean, he was... That's how I feel in favor of it. The word thing is, like, when you watch the Eagles, Sequin scores two touchdowns,

and Jaylon Hertz scores three touchdowns, and then they win 40 to 5 or whatever. And I'm like, and AJ Brown's bitching about it. Honestly, I have him as my eighth wide receiver, and this year he was the 12th in points per game. It's like, I think he's fucking awesome. And if they threw it 40 times a game,

he'd probably be number two on my list. But he just doesn't get the ball enough. He had seven targets a game. Even if he caught all of them, that would be hard to be the wide receiver two. Yeah, I don't care. Okay. I think Hurts,

Frankly, Hertz played poorly last year. I think Hurts's going to play better this year. I probably have Justin Jefferson too high as my number. I think three off the board is probably a little spicy with JJ McCarthy. That's hot. That's hot with JJ. I don't know about that. Just like muscle memory.

Every year he's like darnal. You know? The other, am I really out of line with AJ? And again, I know that I put it to be clear. I had him six and I look at it. I think it's my gut.

I think, I think, you know what? I just like, he's so good. You might be right, but they're going to have to throw a lot more, I think. Can we do,

can we do, let's remove. positions and just say like, what is tier one? How many guys can you realistically take number one overall and nobody would balk at that? Is it Sequin and Jamar Chase? That's it? I think you could also easily make a case. Like if someone took Jemir Gibbs, I have no problem with that. What about Bijon?

I think Bijon I have a problem with it. So it was like five? Because I would even put Derek Henry. If someone was Derek Henry on their football team, I'm like, yeah, cool. Any of the elite running backs? If you took Bijon, like you can, but if you took Bijon over Derek Henry who had 1900 rushing yards last year and Seekone who had 2000 and Gibbs, who I think was the number one running back in December on.

And Jamar Chase, I'm like, at that, I think that's to me the four where I'm like, I don't, I'm not going to like quibble. I have Seqon 1. I have Jamar Chase 2. I have Jemir Gibbs 3. And those are the people that are like utterly dominant people on incredible offenses, like superpowers stacking on superpowers. And that's the way I look at it.

Sequin with Eagles O' line. Jamir Gibbs in the line's offense, even with the Ben Johnson questions. Jamar Chase with Joe Burrow, I want superpowers with superpowers force multiplying forces. And Bejon has a very strong. very good offensive line that could be there. But I have Bejan high. I have Bejan 4th. But I wouldn't take him first.

I have Bejan 5th. Yeah. I think that's probably fair. God, looking, I'm lower on Derek Henry than you guys, which is so funny because I loved him this offseason. Because I was 12th. I once again, I'm like, Is this the year?

Is this the year? Yeah. I think I've just decided Derek Henry's actually the LeBron where it's like until he just ages differently. Also, you know what I'm wrong about AJ Brown. I should move him down. Yeah. I've thought about it.

To be clear, this is the whole. thing. Like we're not, we didn't share. It is vibes. It is vibes. I was a little. To answer your question about high-vice, I think to me, the clear-cut tier one right now would be Jason Barkley. Who? Jamar Jason Barkley. Oh, sorry. I thought you said Jason Barkley.

He's good too. I like him. He's coming out of Michigan. That's fine with me. I have no problem with that. Yeah, I think you can make an argument. I'm low on Gibbs. You're low on Gibbs? No, I'm saying I'm too low on them. Oh, okay. You guys, I've already convinced. I think Gibbs. Gibbs, Gibbs is electric. And also So another, so easy to root for, face your team, fun Instagram, fun guy, like he's nice.

Great skin, by the way. Like, he, great skincare. Mm. It's very clear. Like, he's got, like, he doesn't have any, like, his skincare routine, I want, he should go on an Instagram routine. Is he an face of an angel?

Skincare routine? Is he open about his having a skincare routine? I don't know, but every time he does an interview, he's like, glistening. I'm like, damn. Glistening. He's glistening. Who's the guy?

Who's the guy who you're shocked you put in the top 10? Oh, I have, I, I haven't it. Brock Bowers. you put him in the top 10 I have to admit something I made my list I did not after it but I cheated

and I did end up comparing it to other rankings I did look them up afterward Okay that's exactly what I didn't change it no no no but I didn't change anything I didn't change anything I just looked

and I saw Brock someone had Brock Bowers like 30th and I'm like they're wrong I'm right didn't change your thing and I'm like where do you guys so I have Brock Bowers 10th

you have them 17 okay we're on the same page so I put Brock Bowers over Malik neighbors I put them over Thomas, I put him over those guys because I'm like, he just broke the rookie catch record.

I know everything's going to change and Pete Carroll's going to be there and things are going to change. They're going to run a lot. He's such a special player. It's kind of like if Travis Kelsey just came on the scene as a rookie. That's really what we just saw.

You remember Craig? Remember when you were like kind of out on him because of his really terrible hair and really terrible clothes? Yeah. So we've come so far. I think he's a first round pick. I remember very vividly because,

you know, obviously this is like tongue and cheek and, you know, we're having fun in the draft season. I don't know if I can really do this. But I was like sending Craig texts and like videos of Brock Bowers at Georgia because I was like, Craig, don't do this to me. You got to like Bowers. He's so good.

Bowers is the fucking truth. He's so fucking awesome. I was like trying to convince you not to like be out on him because I had been burned from. It's true. generational talent. I was literally like texting him like begging him not to. I'm happy to be wrong about a guy who had who set the rookie catch record on the

fucking Raiders. He's clearly great. Should we all just get to edit one player right now? Like, I would move Brown down. Okay. Do you all want to move one player? I probably have Bowers too low. I have him 17th.

Here's the thing. The other player I didn't know what to do with was CD Lamb. I have him way higher than you guys. What are we doing here? Don't overthink it. I think I should switch CD. I'm a little weirded out that until Doc Prescott's leg is not talked about like it's like a rib-eye steak or like it's just a fall of, like a barbicoa. I don't like that his hamstring came off the bus.

own. But I guess I kind of did that with the borough thing, so maybe I'll just move them out. I'm kind of over to them. That's the ultimate over thing. C.L.L.M. is going to have like 70-100 yards. That's fine. I'll move C.D. up, and I'll move Brown. But where do you have A.J. Brown in the second round? That's correct. Dude, there's a lot of good players. There's a lot of good players. I know that's a dumb thing

to say, but there's a lot of good football players. I think I'm more excited about the first two rounds this year than last year. That's my takeaway. Do you remember last year? People were not excited to take Kyron Williams 15th. Everybody looks sexy. this year. They're showing like Jonathan Taylor 14th. He was really good at the... He was incredible from week December on. Like, Brian

Thomas, Malik neighbors, like, Puka Nuku. I'm like, where do you put it? I have him lower than you guys think. With D.K. You have Puga Kua 6th. Well, cups can be gone. I know, I know. I'm going to be gone. Honestly, I... And Stafford, I think, is going to come back. I can't. I simply can't. No. He plays too hard. He lives too hard.

100%. No. My first... Work hard, play hard. My first instinct was Puka should be right there. Like, so my receivers... Did he play the whole season? Well, yeah, but you got hurt. Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Cidlam, Ammanus St. Brown. God, my brain is already fried. Dude, you're cooked.

Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Cidieland Manra, Nico Collins. And I was like, Puka should be right there with them. And then I remembered we had a memento tattoo of don't forget that Puka's never been tackled normal in his goddamn life. He looks like he's been like... He peels himself off the turf every game. And it's like even if he plays 17 games,

it's the stress of every time he gets up, you're still going to wonder if it's like, get up, get up that, like the Lion King? I'm tired of worrying about injuries. That's a Puka thing. I'm like, I'm taxing him half around for the stress he would cause me for playing a hopeful season. No, I mean, I'm tired of even thinking about it, so therefore I'm just going to put him high. I feel like we don't, we can't predict injuries. But we can.

No, but we really can't. No, we can't. I think it's the same reason why. There's an injury prone until he's not, or vice versa. That's fair. Remember Mike Evans? These are different conversations. because we're not even sorry not not Mike Evans

Keenan Allen he was like he was the most injury prone guy forever well it's why one of the most interesting guys on this list and we're very apart on this and I'm surprised because I'm not the biggest Devon A-chan guy but I have Devon 8th and you guys don't even have him close well no I thought about that I've been I've been torn about this because when when Tua was healthy

he was like scoring 20 he was like the running back one so I've been torn about this one as well you have him at 20th and 16th I'm like am I overthinking I think it's more a indictment of Tua and the offense and and how that all kind of works out next year. I also moved him down for the memento tattoo of we could be overreacting Tatua,

but it was kind of remembering like Tua and the dolphins are kind of a house of cards. And like, it's basically, it's not just that A. Chan's boom bust. It's like the dolphins with Tua, A.J.N's awesome. But without him, it's like, I don't know. I'm torn. I'm very, I'm at 16th overall. I'm probably wrong about A.C.N. But here's the question.

Do you have eight, would you rather have A.C.N. or Nico Collins? Probably A.C.N. I don't know. I don't hate that, but I think I have no. Niko. Honestly, you could take A-chan first, and I'm like, yeah, I get it. Take him third. You could take him, Sequin Chase. I like the biggest, I love A-Cham, but take him first? If you had the third pick and you were like, I love him, and then you were going to, he's not going to be there when you come back. I'm like, I get it.

But also, if he went 15th, I get it. It's the same thing as last year where I'm like, he's still, I don't know. There were a couple of running backs that I think we were like, oh, they're going to be like part-time guys that were like, actually they're full-time guys. Gibbs and A.C.N. And Bejan are all quietly, like, those. Those are guys that I think have full workloads. And so you could convince me by the time we get to August that the actual top five should be Seekwonchumor Chase, Gibbs, Bejan. You could convince me Achan's fifth because that group of Gibbs, Bejan, Achan are going to have like, no, they actually are 20 touch a game, guys.

Dude, so I just did the quick untrue media. I did. So Achan put up 15 points a game this year, but I added the filter of when two has started. 19 and a half points a game, RB2. Right, right, right. It's just sake one and then Achan. I know. He was catching.

He caught like, how many passes is he catch like 70 or something? how bad the offense was. But it almost makes you make you feel better. You're like last year was a mess and he was still fucking great. Yeah. All right, I would move H.N.

up a lot. He should be top. He should be top. Dude, H.N. caught 78. I put him up over. Honestly, yeah. He's going 20 points a game with two of last year.

Would you rather have H.N. or Derek Henry? Which is a weird thing to think about. Fuck. I kind of weirdly think Derek Henry even though I have him lower. All right, I'm moving H. A lot. There's one major,

there's one major discrepancy here that shocked me. that we have to talk about. Okay. Good tease. This guy, D.K. does not even have ranked

in his top 30. Did I forget about him? I forgot about it. High Fitz has this guy ranked 30th, and I have him ninth. Oh, Christian McCaffrey. Christian McAfrican.

Can I know something? No, I did not forget about him. You guys had him and it was like, oh yeah, he plays football. I didn't forget about him. You don't think he's the top 30 pick? What the hell are you talking about? Well, we didn't say we were.

going to talk about 30 guys, but I just I just was like, I don't know his injury situation. I'm going to be transparent. I took it really seriously when we said blind top 20. I kind of did it in like 15 minutes. I mean, that's what this exercise. That's what it was. It was like gut from scratch. 15, I forgot about it. But now, I'm legitimately worried about his injury

situation. You are or not? I am. Is he, you just said, didn't you say 30 seconds ago? It's unpredictable. Yeah. Blind top 20, maybe. There's two kinds of people. Dude, he missed the entire fucking year. What do you want to be saying? He came back. He came back and played.

He played for like five games. I feel like we've just... And his fucking... Did we just freaking... Did we just freaky Friday? Here's the question. You guys are trying to predict if someone's going to get hurt in the future.

I'm saying I'm staying away from a guy who missed almost an entire year because he had two Achilles injuries. But weren't we the ones at the start of the year where we put McCaffrey lower because he was already hurt and you were against that? And now you're docking him for being already hurt?

Yeah, I am not consistent. Stop fucking trapping me in this thing. calling me on my shit, all right? This isn't a courtroom. You told me not to think about it too much. Do you think? I mean, there's a real chance that, like, you should just take C.D. Lamb

and Christian McCaffrey, and you could probably just get the number one receiver in running back in fantasy next year. I was going to say there's absolutely, like, there's Tyreek Hill, people were going to, like, imagine if the Dolphins stay heavy, there's, dolphins stay healthy, and you could, you could probably walk away with, like, A-Chene or C-D, you could get

Tyreek, you could get McCaffrey. Like, he gets Debo on the New You could get a really crazy old man team next year. McAvary's going to be an interesting offseason conversation. He's kind of Sequin for this year. Yeah. You know what I mean? Where he's like, oh, like 16th and then he runs for 2,000 yards.

And I think the question is just workload. It's just, are they going to give him the ball? Because again, don't forget, Shanahan just never wanted him off the field. He'll be 29 in June. I think, frankly, I think a thing I'm learning is I need to learn a little bit more about Achilles tendonitis, whether that's just something you deal with for the rest of your life. I really got to get in the lab. And it spread to his arm.

arms? Yeah, maybe. I'm worried about that. Should we get spread anywhere? Should we get Sam Tarley from Thrones to just cut it off him? Like, you know, cut the... I really got to do my medical research this off season. Should we become doctors?

My fantasy... My fantasy season might rely on whether or not I think Christian McCaffrey's a safe pick or not. So to recap, you're right that I was too high in A.J. Brown. You're right that I should have remembered Christian McCaffrey plays football. So where do you put him, though? So the top... So the top ten, if we average everything we did... I think he's a classic end of first round.

Well, so Sequin and Chaser, we're saying Sequin and Jimor Chase is the top two, and we're saying the next tier in whatever order is. Running backs are Jamir Gibbs, if the Lions, and Bison Robbins and Falcons, Derek Henry for the Ravens. We're saying A-Chance for the Dolphins is in there somewhere. There's kind of a tier drop. There's a tier drop because Jonathan Taylor's kind of his own tier almost. And then the receivers are in whatever you order when you put him. Justin Jefferson and Cedley Lamb, Amonra, I think is still in there. Nico Collins, I think Puka, neighbors.

And then like Brian Thomas probably does deserve to be in there. And then Brock Bowers, honestly, is in that. or two. Brock Bowers is just like a receiver as a tight end. And then A.J. Brown, I guess, is with Jonathan Taylor is probably like this, you know, next tier. And then I think there's a pretty solid drop-off. That is 16 people. Am I forget?

And then I think, I guess McCaffrey, like, would you do Christian McCaffrey or Jonathan Taylor? Well, I know. Honestly, I need to see, like, how McCaffrey is progressing. He's practicing. He plays. If he's, like, healthy, everything's fine. April, he's doing stuff. He shows up to the training camp.

Yeah, yeah. And they're like, and they're just like, oh, yeah, he's going to, like, ramp up. But like, yeah, Shannon's like, I'm optimistic. And it's vague. Well, he's like there. Well, now I feel like you're backtracking. At first it was like fully healthy. And now it's like, did I say fully healthy?

I'm practicing. He's playing. But like, if he's fully practicing the entire summer, McAfrey. But like, no, but it's fully practiced since that it's Shanahan. And you're not going to, even if it's really, you're not going to trust it. You're going to feel weird about it. You're not going to be like, I totally trust everything. Kyle Shannon's saying like, it's going to be this cloud over like whatever they say that you're not going to fully trust it.

Again, Fred Warner broke his fucking ankle in September. And then put him on the injury report for the ankle until the end of October. So, like, that's what we're dealing with here. McAvary's going to go for a massive discount, and it's going to be a huge risk, and it will define your season. I think that's accurate.

No, I think that's accurate. And also, are you willing to live dangerously, essentially? Sir, you have nine. Stay on seven. Stay. I'll stay on seven. I, too, like to live dangerously. Another guy who I think is really interesting this year, who I think, like, demands to be a first rounder.

despite how young he is. We demand to be taken seriously. Fucking Brian Thomas Jr. Yeah. Yeah. I have him 13th, I think. So like right outside the first round. So he had 1100 yards and 12 touchdowns last year.

Yeah. Plus it's kind of exciting to think about what Trevor Lawrence did. Oh, no, he had 1,400 yards. No, no. He had 1,200 yards, 10 touchdowns. That's a lot. 80 catches, played 16 games. He was the wide receiver four on the season.

Granted, it was a injury heavy season for wide receiver. But think about Liam Cohen, what he just did with Baker. I'm like, Lawrence is better than Baker. And I'm like, yeah, you could argue Brian Thomas. It's like, the Liam Cohen. Weirdly stable? That's where I'm more excited about the second round. Like the second round last year, we were kind of like, this is kind of weird.

Like there's upside here, but we're like, you know, and again, but it was like, Derek County's sick one. But people were like down on those guys. But I'm like, looking at this. I'm like, it's sexy. The second round's sexy. Like early second round, Brian Thomas is nice. Yeah.

Really nice. He's kind of like the version of like, I feel like you've been able to get A.G. Brown on the turn. Imagine at the turn, Brock Bowers. Brian Thomas. Frankly, he's better than what Garrett Wilson was last year. Brian Thomas is better than Garrett Wilson's ever been in the NFL. I can't, there's something about Garrett Wilson where I'm like,

I still think you might be the best receiver in the NFL. Yeah, but he's just had such an unstable situation. That's another thing about this, I have to admit. And this was just, again, going off like trusting my gut. And I think the whole point of this exercise was we did so fresh everything we just saw. Trust your gut because all the analysis and all the target sharing stuff is going to be, you're going to crush over the season and trust your eyes. I didn't put Breece or Garrett Wilson in top 30

because one of the big I didn't put him in the top 30 because I remember this guy said Bruce how dare you mention his name what's the biggest thing is like you know what avoid bad teams is like the best thing you can do most of the time it's like sure there are sometimes a player crush isn't a bad team

but for the most part the teams that can't score can't move the chains can't get yards if you avoid them for the most part you're going to do well and I'm like the Jets without Raj I'm like I have nothing to do with that team I don't want the vibes Garrett Wilson doesn't want to be there.

I don't want guys who don't want to show up to work. Like that's enough. Like, I don't want guys who don't want to show up to work in the fantasy playoffs. We're going to be eliminated. That matters to me. And I know it's a little dangerous to predict, but, you know, maybe Aaron Glenn does a great job. But I don't want Garrett Wilson. I don't want Bruce Hall.

I don't want them on my teams. Other people here that I want to ask you about. I keep turning the heat down in here and it just keeps going back up. What's going on with that? Fucking I. Are you on heat? I keep getting, like, I keep turning it to 6. I keep looking over there

like a minute ago, it was 74. It was hot, like it was this hot air coming in. What mode is it on? Is it on cool or is it on heat? It looks like it's a snowflake, so therefore it would be cool. I don't know, just tough it out. DK kind of sounds like the snowflake.

Tough it out. Hold on. Let's go, let's go tarps off. Is this on camera? I don't like having like a, like heat coming down on it. Can I go over there? I kind of want to experience what you're experiencing. No.

Oh. Because you're being mean. Go ahead. What did I do? Do you think you can get through the next 10 minutes? Yeah, I'll be fine. All right. I just wanted to,

I wanted to point out for the people that are watching the video, why I keep touching that thing over there. Okay. I feel like if I comment on this, he's going to get mad at me. Do you have any thoughts? No. I think we should,

what would you like to comment? I'm not going to say anything. Are you going to say that he's going through menopause or something? Hyphitz is the one that said the other day, he's like, I don't ever, I don't have ever had opinion on the number on the number on. this thermostat.

I don't. I'm weirdly indifferent to the temperature. Unless I'm going to sleep, I'm weirdly indifferent to the temperature. Unless he wants to be a certain temperature,

he's indifferent to it. Unless I'm sleeping, but otherwise I don't notice it. I mean this with no disrespect. Do you think that's because you kind of are a sweaty guy and you're like, no matter the temperature,

I will sweat anyway, so who cares what temper it is? Yes. That's actually fair. I mean, I would think as a sweat. If I was an overly sweaty person, I think I would like to turn the heat. I sweat at 60.

It doesn't matter. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If he's just sweating no matter what, I have a buddy like that who just brings two shirts to work because he's just a sweater. It doesn't matter. It doesn't change my life. You got to respect it. Your body's a fucking machine.

Yeah. Furnace. Furnace. Nuclear power plant. You actually, no, that's exactly it. Wait, guys, hold on live. Breaking news. Oh, God.

Super Bowl sets all time ratings record for second straight year. Wow, despite the blowout. So here's, okay, we've talked about this. Fox has 126 million viewers. ratings record, how advertising works. So there was a story, and I'm going to botch some of these specific numbers, but basically there was like an Eagles Cowboys game on like Thanksgiving. And basically the old record was like 30, 33 million or something.

And then it jumped to like, oh, 41 million. And it was like, but they also same year they jumped to some thing, shattered some Thanksgiving record that they also was the first year they really started incorporating the better, more accurate data, which is related to like more accurate bars stuff. I'm sure it's related to like, they can actually track with your phones, how many people are in the bar and they can more track,

really track, how many people are like watching these things. So when they do that, here's my question for you, Craig. You host the town. No, sorry, Matt Bellany hosts the town. You produced the town. The town would suck if I hosted it.

Yeah, probably. But, well, you can pitch what the town is better than me. That's not true. Okay. Oh, sorry. No, it obviously would. The town is about the inside business around Hollywood, so it'd be tough for me to probably host that.

Here's my question when I see stories like this. Talk about it. Yeah. That's all Matt does. He just reads blogs. Here's my... That's not what I say for her. He just scrolls Reddit.

People are saying. Like how Elon tweets. He just scrolls and it's like, wow, big of it's true. So here's my thing. When we see this, is this actually new? Or is this actually how many people have been watching the Super Bowl the whole time? And we're only now capturing the numbers because now they actually can track people's phones. Every year, Nielsen, who is the ratings tracking service, every year they get better and better at counting, essentially.

So it just feels. like the old numbers were wrong. Yes. And not only were they wrong, but they just straight up weren't counting bars and restaurants and things like that. That's crazy.

Yes. And airports. And now... That's crazy. That's crazy. KB. 126 million. I'm sure Brady's gonna feel great

about that and be like, I'm the goat. People stayed watching because I was broadcasting even though it was a blah. But yeah, like they're now just counting all of these public spaces

that just fucking have the game on. I think that's so funny that they couldn't. I'm surprised by this though. I mean, there's something off about this whole thing of counting $1.15 million, $126 million, and I'm like, they're kind of guessing.

The number does not mean peak viewers. It doesn't mean like it peaked at the highest number ever. It means sustain. It's the median. Oh. Is $126 million, which is crazy considering the last Super Bowl was, went to overtime and set the record.

And this game was a fucking blowout immediately. So, hmm, suspicious. I'm suspicious. Okay, here's the other thing with these rankings. Okay. And I go through the, I want to go through the whole list together.

which I know it was a little annoying to just list names on a pod but it's important to me. Sequin, Jamar Chase, Jamir Gibbs, Bejohn Robinson, Justin Jefferson, C.D., you're right, this sucks. I shouldn't list all the names. No, I'm happy. This is good.

Ciddy Lamb, Derek Henry, Amon Ra, Nico Collins, DeVan, DeVan, Niko. Nico Collins. Pooka, Brian Thomas, Brock Bowers, Jonathan Taylor. Malik Davis is A.J. Brown, that's 16.

Christian McCaffrey is saying it's 17. The 17 guys. I think there's a tear break right there in position players where I'm no longer titillated to have you as one of my two best players. And I put the fucking quarterbacks there. And this is my gut. I know it's wrong.

You're not supposed to say quarterback's that high. Blah, blah, blah, blah. I put Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hertz and Jaden Daniels right there because I'm like, those guys are awesome. I want to watch them every week. And I know it's like it is not, as they would say, plus EV to have a quarterback at 18th. And I was making this and being true to myself. I was like, I don't care because I would love to start with.

Sequin Barclay and then, like, Jalen Hertz, as the two players to start with Sequin Barclay, which is also probably done, don't care. Sequin and Jaden Daniels. Those are my two players? Awesome. I'll figure everything else out. And, like, you didn't even rank the quarterbacks,

and I'm wondering, like, I do not actually want Josh Jacobs over Josh Allen. I don't want to do it to myself. I didn't rank the quarterbacks because we were just doing top 20 and they weren't in there for me. I completely agree with you. I think exactly about those 17 players before the next tier drops

and I'm no longer excited to have those guys as one of the two best players in my team. And I agree with that completely. It's mathematically, like as we always joke about the fiduciary responsibility to not just go on vibes. fiduciary responsibility,

like you should probably take like Joe Mixon or Josh Jacobs over like Josh Allen. I probably won't be taking Josh Allen 18th overall in a single quarterback draft, but I get the vibes. But here's the flip side. What I want to do, if I made my whole vibes rankings

of how I act, when we keep joking about this and we should do it this year, of like, we kind of want to make the rankings of how we actually would do it if we didn't actually have to, like, let other people listen to us. And like what you actually want to do if you were freed from the shackles of, like, having to be logical.

I would like to have, literally, my rankings would be Josh Allen's 17th and Lamar Jackson 18th and Jalenhaired's 19th and Jaden's 20th. And I wouldn't take another, if I didn't get one of those four, I wouldn't rank another in the top 1.30. I don't care. Kiler, Caleb Williams, Jared Gough, Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, I'm like, I don't want a pocket passer.

I don't want Joe Burrow 50th when I could get like, you know, Jared Goth, 150th this year. I don't want to, I don't want to fucking gamble on which pocket passer is going to throw for 45 touchdown. I don't want to play that game.

And Burroughs great, but the Bengals, all they're going to do is improve their defense this year. The whole thing is they're going to make sure Joe Burroughs doesn't have to do what he just did. Might not be on the team.

He could be, but you just never know what the pocket passer guy. You never want to guess. And it's like, I mean, I know it's stupid, but like if you look through, I don't have to do the whole list thing again,

but like, do you know how many good quarterbacks there are this year? It's actually ridiculous. Like literally however you, Trevor Lawrence or Jared Gough or Baker, it's like, Dak,

one of those is going to be like a 15th quarterback. Never, you know what I mean? You don't need to invest in the middle class quarterbacks because you could always just take a risk on one of the later guys. You could take Caleb Williams turning into like a top five quarterback.

Caleb's going to be 16th. So anyway, my point is I kind of, we're not supposed to take a quarterback in the second round. I don't care. I want to do it. It feels like this is going to be,

in auction drafts. It feels like this is going to be an all-time bidding war for those big four quarterbacks. Yeah, I want a $35 quarterback or literally $2. $35? I think Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jaden Daniels are going to go for $70. Oh, $70.

No, no, no. Superflex. Superflex. I think it's going to be like, I think they will be, it's going to be Sequin, Jamar Chase, and those four running quarterbacks are going to be the six most expensive players in Superflex. I think, I mean, Lamar was like 60 or something.

something last year. And to be clear, they're going to go for more than they've ever gone this year. And to be clear, the order I'm talking about, I don't give a shit. Honestly,

you can rank them however you want. And again, it's similar. It's like we're going to have all offseason to like, you know, go through projections and go through the offenses and dissect. As of this moment, Josh, Lamar, Jalen Hertz, Jaden,

take him whatever you order you want. And I think with those four quarterbacks in particular, I look at it as, who do you like watching the most? It's fantasy football. It's supposed to be fun. If you like watching Jalen Hertz and your Eagles fan, you think he's hot, whatever, do it.

If you think Jane Daniels is the man and you're like, damn, what a sick guy. Take him first. Take them over Josh Allen. Don't care if Josh is your hero. And you're from Buffalo. Just have fun because it's underrated. Like, they're so good. And there's, like, those four people are predictable in a way that is impossible with the other 28 quarterbacks in the NFL.

And I want them on my team. And your life is better if they're on your team. Sundays are better. It's honestly, like what we talked about Chris Ryan last week, where you win the championship and you're a little empty inside. And you're like, the point is this is just. This is just a way to make your 18 Sundays during the regular season watching football better. You will have more fun if one of these four quarterbacks are on your fantasy team. Yeah, I just think that the, it's like, not that it's been a secret, but people really know now that the rushing is all that matters.

And Jaden just immediately ascending and just being a top five guy. I don't think anybody's going to want to wait to take like Jared Gough or something like that. It is going to be those four and you are going, the only problem is you're going to have to spend. You might have to take them in the second round. So I have also, if you're listening to this and you're like, Hyphids isn't saying what happened to like being a professional. And I'm kind of like, that's fine. The flip side is, dude, think about the players, who should be fifth?

And I'm like, I want someone with rushing. Sure, fine, give Joe Burrow fifth. Six. Mahomes out of like, I don't know, no, no. Like, and so then it's like, think about the quarterbacks who left to run. Boenicks. Kyler Merr. Let's say it's Borough fifth.

Mahom's six because people are still going to take Mom's six. Kyler is seven. Bonix is eight. And now it's like, what's the rushing suddenly? It's like, okay, let's just say Caleb is nine. People are going to disagree with that because Caleb's like. People are going to think I'm crazy. But I'm like, okay, who should be nine?

Like, I mean, Dak, Jared Goff. Like, it's crazy how quickly you can fill up. So I'm like, I literally think you could just, you could not draft a quarterback. I'd want on waivers to be perfectly fine. Right. I don't think Caleb will be like a sleeper. I think there will be enough hype because of Ben Johnson. that Caleb will, unfortunately,

like you're not going to get them for a discount. No, there's going to be a lot of height. But anyway, my point is, I think I want a quarterback really high or I want one, I want to be the last, it's the ultimate, I want to be the Ricky Bobby, first or last person,

take a quarterback, nothing in between. I feel that way about tight end similarly. DK, do you think, we were just talking about how Washington is going to have a first place schedule now. They had the ridiculous

fourth down conversion rate. Or second place, right? Oh, second place schedule now. Now they had a ridiculous fourth down conversion rate. Everything is hot. Jayden Daniels did get hurt, broke his ribs, would miss like, what, two, three weeks?

I think he missed one week. He missed one week, but he was not himself for a month. He was like hurt for a while. He wasn't himself for a month. Do you think there's a world in which it's like, hey, maybe you bet on the sophomore slump? The harder schedule, should you fade him a little bit? Like, he's going to be, he will be the most popular,

coolest, sexiest new thing. 100%. In fantasy football, easily. Like, there's a good chance he's the most expensive quarterback in fantasy just because when he gets nominated, in an auction draft. It'll be so rapturous

that the bidding war will just, he'll end up being the number one quarterback off the board. I don't know. I'm not going to, I'm probably not going

to fade him hard by any means because I think there's a chance that get better players around him. It's like Lamar and Josh are becoming boring.

It's a lot like C.J. Stroud last year. And honestly, I think the answer is really simple. If Jane Daniels does a podcast this year, we're out.

Yeah. And if Jane Daniels does not do a podcast to miss. It's such different players, though, because he runs. But if he's a podcast,

Runs his mouth. Yeah. God damn right. Yeah. Good point. Good point. Which quarterback is the least likely to make a podcast? Maybe we should draft that guy.

Of the best. Rogers is the most. Lamar does not seem like a podcast guy. Lamar would never do a pod. Lamar was asked, do you work out with Josh Allen or Mahomes or see them in the offices or anything? He was like, why would I do that? Yeah, I love that. To see them.

They don't work with that. I could see Burroughs starting a pod, for sure. I think Lamar is the right answer for last. Lamar is like very much like he, dude, his agent is his mom. Yeah. His manager is his mom. Lamar is because, and Josh Allen are becoming just like kind of boring because they've been around for a long time. And you should literally, it's like, it's like betting the chiefs to make the Super Bowl every year.

It's like just don't think about it, just draft Lamar and draft Josh Allen. It'll be fine. Yeah. So other, any other takeaways that jump out to you guys here? Because otherwise, I think the only, there's one. The disparity was way lower on Malik neighbors than you guys. And it's funny because I immediately

realized why I'm wrong. My thinking just doesn't seem right now. I was like, well, who's throwing him? But then I think back to this year, I'm like, well, who's throwing them this year? And he was kind of awesome. 200 yards, seven touchdowns, 1009 catches. And like, can it get worse than this year?

No. If they have Cam Ward or Shador, that's better. I mean, they could bring in anybody and it would be a better situation than they have last year. Honestly, the neighbors, don't say that. I'm deciding whether to speak something. You know what I mean? I'm deciding whether to speak something into existence or not.

Because if I say it, I could, people will be like, I said it. But if I say it, maybe I'll jinx it. Just do it. Little, little. Just do it. Come on. It's February. It's soccer.

Neighbors got knocked out cold in week two. Neighbors got knocked out cold in week two. And I think it was congesting. I'm just worried about, like, I'm worried about the giants getting the shit kicked out of them because they gave him 150 targets if we're learning to protect himself. from the NFL. It's my only fear with him. I think he's a very special football player.

My fear is just getting absolutely rocked in meaningless games, like a little too much. A little crystal lave. A little crystal lave. That Derek Carthron hospital balls up to him. Yes. Yes. Peep quarterbacks who don't know how to protect him. Like, I mean, he got an under-discussed thing was he got not,

the league got knocked out unconscious in his second NFL game. It was a sick catch Like he toe tapped it Hands to his face And landed face match to the ground And then that's why he started With like 200 yards First two games

And then the next week He like wasn't really the same But like I just That's my only fear With the link I don't think anything else can stop him I'm not gonna think about that I know you're right

That's why I almost didn't say it Yeah it's a dumb thing to say Like it doesn't It's just like You could get hurt playing football It's like shut up nerd Yeah It's just like the

The old like stoic expression or whatever where it's like most of the things you worry about never end up happening or I don't know I'm paraphrasing I think your dad said that well he didn't make it up oh right yeah it's like Marks Aurelius or something oh or Seneca he didn't invent it I think it was Seneca he didn't invent a turnaround jumper no wait we had we had a great email oh my god yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah wait we have to talk about this that we met someone at the Super Bowl I don't know if I've ever laughed like louder I got it, I got it.

We met a lovely couple, and they both listened to the show. And the guy was like, oh, by the way, I have emailed you guys a couple times. We were like, really? And then we pulled up his email, and it was hilarious. So, I'm pulling up right now. Come on. I swear this never happens. I swear.

I'm going to find it. This is actually a perfect leading to the mailbag. I got it. This email is from Christian. Christian. Chris. I remember being by our pool in the summer, and my older brothers in the summer.

I are shooting on the basketball hoop. Said that weird, but okay. Shooting on the basketball hoop. Because I paused and I wasn't understand. Tom Brady-ass way to say that. You know why? Because he said, by the pool, and I was like to see me in a basketball hoop in a pool or a basketball hoop by the pool.

Maybe it was in the pool. That's why I said it weird. I was trying to. I was like, did I misread this? I was questioning myself. So what are we landing on? It was a basketball hoop outside. I like to picture it in the pool.

He said being by our pool, so I assume it was, why does the pool matter? I don't know. I haven't read the email. God damn it Christ Anyway I remember being by our pool in the summer I'll let everyone up to great art Is up to your interpretation

I remember being by our pool in the summer And my older brothers and I was shooting on our basketball hoop Someone made a basket And said boom shockalaka Oh yeah Oh yeah And our uncle looks at us and says How do you know about that?

Who told you about that? And so we looked around and said what And he goes on to explain Saying that he invented boom shock And hasn't really used it in a long time. He's like gatekeeping boom shockalaka from his family. He's like, no, he had it, not even just gatekeeping. He had it in like the safety deposit box.

And he's like, I haven't whipped boomshackle out in decades. How do you know about boom shakalaka? Yeah, it's like, I've whipped out boom shakalaka in decades. And so we tell him it's from NBA jam. And to this day, he just refuses to acknowledge it's from NBA jam. He's like, no, he invented boom shakalaka. It's like, why would you want to keep that from others if you invented that? At least tell your family.

Spread the word. You never even letting your fucking nephews say it. Yeah, come on. Aren't you supposed to spread the word? I think he was shocked. He was like, how do you know? Yeah,

he was like, I haven't heard. No one's called me that. That name in years. Boom, shock. Did he think it was so powerful that the world wasn't ready? And he's waiting for the right time

to kind of unveil it? That's kind of what Lord of the Rings is about. You should see it. The ring is too powerful. That's what the two buildings is. Yeah. I think it was ready. I'm pretty sure it was for,

before NBA Jam, by the way. I don't think NBA Jam invented it. Do you think this guy invented it? No. I'm more willing to believe this guy invented it than I am any of the other cases we've seen. I can imagine, but how, okay, Boom Shakalaka.

We need to figure out how Boomshakalaka. What is the origin of it getting an NBA Jam? It must have been a phrase before. Yes, that's what I was saying. But does that guy invent it? No. Who invented Boom Shackalaka? So I'm looking it up.

It says, the origins are uncertain, but it's likely from the filler syllables boom laaka laca laca laca in the lyrics to the 1969 song I want to take you higher by sly and the family stone That was actually the quickest we've ever gotten to the bottom of anything But that is just a random like Google drop-down answer. Gemini. Actually it was not Gemini.

It was a people also ask, which I trusted. It's somehow better even though that's also Geminii someone says that in 1879 a cricket commentator Henry Chadwick used a phrase DeVarral Boom Shaka. Hanky Chats? To describe an impressive shock. I like that.

The best one of all these, like, other than the ones we've been emailed, also in stripes in 81. I love how Dusty Baker, the baseball manager, claims to have received the first high five. That's like my favorite one ever. Wait, it's an onomatopoeia? What? I'm reading on Wixionary, which is not Wikipedia. But it says the script writer for the 1993 video game NBA Jam adopted it as

automatapeoic for a slam dunk. Which I was like, that's weird, but it's the dunk in the nukes. the chains rattling. So it's the boom and then the shakalak is the chains rattling. Boom shockalaka. That's, that's something. Wait, so do you think they invented it? What did you say the song was?

What did you say the song was? 1969. No, tell me what it was. I want to take you higher. But was it? By Slai in the family stone. Wow. It was boom shakalaka with the chain.

Dude, anyone saw Space Jam as a kid, the metal net. In the chain net in the beginning of Space Jam, made every kid want. The sound is so aesthetically pleasing. It's a perfect sound. It's a perfect sound. ASMR. It's so satisfying.

I'm going to YouTube. Boom Shackalakalakas and anamotipia. I feel like all these things happened before the game though. But it's a cool onomatopoeia that he recognized that is cool. If that's not true, I don't want anyone to email us and correct us. I want to go the rest of my life thinking boom shakalakalakas the sound of a basketball. No, it's not though. I'm telling you.

What do you mean? We literally just established that it's not. Why don't you say that? But he could still recognize that it sounds similar to a dunk and a chain rattling. That's fine. Yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm upset about that. You're upset?

You're a yucker. What? Yum yucker? Look at my yum. It's yucked. Yeah. My yum got yucked so hard. Yeah, that's fine.

You can believe it. Email us more of the Ringer Fantasy Football atcom. Email is more of the dad's stuff. I love that my dad, my uncle, my grandfather, my grandmother, My grandma invented something. Boom, Chalaka is so good. Someone was like, my mom turns to me as like,

chicken's not the same anymore. I'll take anything. I love that stuff. She's probably right. Well, she's probably right. That's true. Unconfirmed. Oh, boy.

What do we got? We just got an email like an hour ago that I just opened. Sorry for that. That's what my real laugh sounds like, but I think something's really funny. Yeah. It's really embarrassing. It's really, when I think something's funny,

I think I have like a pretty like, ah-ha laugh. But that's like my... He also laughs for a really long time. Yes. Oh, like... I discovered this last night. Once a year, I laugh for like five minutes.

It's like he laughs and then it's, ha-ha, we're all laughing. We're having a good time. Ha-ha. And then he just keeps laughing for a really long time. And everyone else is just like standing around looking at him like, okay, when's this going to end? Have I ever told you my favorite joke that you gives Jack it? Because I'm going to laugh at it for like minutes and minutes. Have I told you my favorite joke?

No. I don't know if I want to know it. Should I read this and then tell you my favorite joke? Sure. No, I'll tell you my favorite joke, Claire. And then I want to tell you guys about my life. laughing style in the way I watch comedy because I have something I want to tell you guys. Okay.

So two muffins are in an oven. Craig looks. I can't believe it is this style of a joke. Yeah. That makes you laugh for five minutes. Okay. And the first one says, wow, it's hot in here. I know what you're going to say.

I think, do you want me to spoil it? Because I think I've heard this. Or do you want to know what you want to do it? The other one says, oh my God, it's a talking muffin. Yeah. Guy's like, guy's covering his face. It's remarkable jacky didn't break up. on a spot.

On a spot. Yeah. He's going to keep going for a while here. Okay, now I can tell you guys about. What were we laughing about last thing? High Fitz, literally started just like, he just like started dying laughing

for like a really long time and Kainer like looking at each other like. Oh, he showed me the meme. Someone made the Don Draper with the seal on the easel. Oh, yeah. I mean, it was, yeah, it's funny. Holy shit I'm talking of. I'm the type of person.

I don't know if you guys are. are like this, where if I watch comedy alone at home, I won't laugh. Oh, you breathe through your nose. Bo Burnham's joke. You just breathe through your nose heavy. It could be the funniest movie ever, and I am not laughing out loud. I think I'm kind of like that. But I think laugh, no, it's laughter's like this social construct. It's contagious. Because you, yeah, no, it's

literally like, it's like a bonding thing with other people. Like, you literally breathe heavier when you're alone and then you laugh from people. My whole, I'm not like against watching, I think you should leave. I want to watch, I think you should leave with my friends. And I haven't done it yet because I'm 42 and I'm 402 and have a kid and I never fucking hang out with my friends anymore.

You want to hear my take on I think you should leave? It's actually not that funny to watch for the first time. It is fucking hysterical to quote. The memes and the quotes. I think, yeah. Like, if you watch the sketch, you're like, that was okay. But then you go to lunch with your friend and just rehash the sketch, it becomes 30 times funny. It's true.

It's honestly, yeah, it's almost like made to be a rewatchable TV show. Like the first run, yeah, I 100% agree. I watched it the first time. I watched like five episodes around. I was kind of like, I don't laugh at anything. And I felt like I actually was current concerned there was something wrong with me. Well, because it's like, it's like awkward humor, right? That's kind of like the style.

And that stuff is just so much funnier to convey, like, that I'm ruined when he's like losing his money gambling. Craig was saying that. Every time we missed a world. I'm ruined. Yeah. Yeah, I'm having more fun now saying I'm ruined than I ever had watching. I mean, that's like, I've never even watched the show and I think it's hilarious. Yeah.

But I, because I know kind of like the tenor of the show. And I've watched some of the Detroiters. And I've watched. Yeah. I've watched a few episodes of I think you should leave. But like, I really just want to get together with my friends. And talk about it. I think you should leave.

And watch the whole thing. Yeah. I went, one time I went over to my buddy's house and we just watched Tim and Eric videos for like four hours. Oh, is that what it's called? I can't remember. Yeah. Yeah.

And they're like the weirdest fucking. So weird. The weirdest bits. There's something called D pants where he's just see-through pants where he just like, you can shit into him. Diarray pants. And it's like a really like. Are they clear? Seat-through.

And then you're like, when you're done with them, you like, hose them off. It's like the fucking weirdest thing, but it's also so funny. That's the thing I think I missed the most about being younger is just going over to your friend's house and watching TV for four hours. Have you seen that you know that Tim and Eric that it's spook it? That guy? Spook it. I don't think it. It's so funny.

It's so stupid, but it's so good. I've never even seen what you're talking about. That's... Deep pants is an all-timer. You never watched Tim and Eric? No, but after that, I kind of know I wanted. Dude, I mean, that's like the tip of the iceberg. It's the weirdest shit you'll ever see your life.

Oh, it's so fucking weird. It's in the Eric Andre camp of that style, like absurd humor. I like Eric Andre, but I keep him at arm's distance. But I like him a lot. One of my favorite parts of being in Los Angeles was like going to comedy shows and an incredible part of living in L.A. is comedians will just, like, really famous people will just drop in and do new shit.

And I went to a comedy show and Eric Andre just showed up. And Eric Andre just did 10 minutes on Apple. Owls. And it was... Was it good? It was unbelievable. Were people laughing? Yeah.

He just had a loose leaf piece of paper and he's like, I just have a lot on owls. I don't think I've ever seen his stand-up stuff. It was unbelievable. The only thing I know about him is the, he shoots the guy and then he's... Who killed Hannibal? Oh, he's also the guy on the fans. Have you ever seen the Eric Andre's show? No.

It's disturbed. Oh, my God. It's disturbed. Dude, we need to just get together and watch like all the comedy shows at some point. He starts every episode by destroying. his set. It's deranged. It's deranged.

It might be the most deranged show that's ever been made. It's like up there. Yes. It's that we always talk about like what thing would your parents watch and be like what the fuck am I what is this generation?

If my parents, if I was like there's a really funny comedy show that I want to show you guys, they'd be like, okay. And if I put on the Eric Andre, they couldn't even get through everything everywhere all at once. They were like, what is happening?

This sucks. Same thing. Jackie's parents. Jack and I watch that movie on your recommendation. It's the best. We take anytime you're like this is my favorite movie

the year, we watch it. Oh, that's very sweet. No, we do, no. We respect your opinion. So you said that. Jackie and are like, let's watch a movie. So we watched this. We were crying.

We thought everything everywhere all at once was like, wow. We're going to watch it again. We're like, oh, Jackie's parents, like, running bit is they're the worst depicting movies. I'm like, there's a thousand things to watch. They never see good movies. So they watch a movie. They turn it off.

Yeah. They made it 45 minutes. It's too fast. Too many edits. Don't get it. I don't get what it's about. We're like, it's about the bond between a mother and your daughter, Maureen.

And how it transcends all universes. It's beautiful. It's about the love between a mother and daughter. And Jackie was like, mom, watch this. And she was like, I hate it. I hated it. So that my parents turned off. They called me.

I was like, so how was everything everywhere? And they were like, oh, we stopped watching that. And then years ago. I'm pretty sure my dad told me he hated that too. Yeah, dude. No, but I think it's a generational gap. But also, it takes also the concept of a multiverse for like, I mean, Marvel and all this stuff.

It's like in the water. You've seen Rick and Morty. Like it's like multiverse is baked into like a lot of stuff. You get it. It's pretty fucking. It's a little weird if you're like 60 or whatever and you're just like, okay, so they're porting between universes. It's a little bit of a gap.

The other instance I had that was very similar was I watched Bo Burnham's What with my family. I love Bo Burnham. I've seen what a hundred times. Within the first, there's like one opening joke where he's like singing and he's just going prolonged eye contact prolonged eye contact and he's just pointing at somebody in the crowd

and he does it for a minute straight and I'm just fucking sweating on the couch looking over at my parents like they're gonna fucking hate this and I literally I was like we can stop watching the second hand like embarrassment or nerves of telling somebody like let's put on this funny YouTube video and then you just got to sit there

and hope they like it it's like a 10 minute video there's no worse feeling there's this like mega my honestly I was like we can just put on Big Bang Theory The fear of recommending something that you think is like the best thing ever and not someone not liking it is a real thing. I think it replaced for a generation. I think for your generation growing up, you'd recommend a song and you'd play a song and you'd hope they like it. And for us, it's 100% of a YouTube video.

If you show somebody to YouTube video, one of my favorite tweets ever is a woman tweeted. If you're like, she was like, women, if you're with a guy and you're dating and he shows you a YouTube video, just pretend to like it. It's a part of their culture. Yeah. And it really is like, when you show a woman a YouTube video, you are burying your soul. There was always like a guy in college or whatever who had like the funniest YouTube playlist that he made that he curated. And you would just like get high or drunk and just put it on for an hour and a half. Oh my God.

And it was just funny video. Email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com like your favorite YouTube video. And I know that's crazy. You don't have to pick your number one. But like anything that's S tier, anything like the Jamar Chase Seque one tier, doesn't be literally number one. And then YouTube videos? Yeah. Your favorite YouTube video.

And then we will send a Zoom link. You have a free house for you, Jim. Free real estate. Free real estate. And then we'll send a Zoom link so that you can actually watch us watch it, because that's the only way that you can truly feel what we're saying. Not for everybody at once. No, every single person, we will get a Zoom link for you.

You can hop on with us. Watch us, watch a video, and then we'll watch it. It's free real estate. What if we don't like it? That's the plan. I will say, yeah. Then they can feel what we feel. Bo Burnham is the first person I ever watched that made me feel like he understood

how I'm, like, our generation is different than other generations. He's the most underrated comedian of our time. So when Jackie turned 30, I turned out all the lights at midnight, and I put on the bow burn. I'm like, I'm turning 30. No. I can't really sing. Is that bad?

Is that how it sounds? There's a reason I never sing. I can't really sing. I'm tone deaf. I can't sing. It's a great special. I think this week has destroyed any, there was any like Adam Sandler doing his mother, not that.

Yeah, yeah. Imitating his mother. imitating us by the way I tried to show these speaking of comedy that doesn't necessarily transcend generations

I tried to show these guys do it for your mama from Adam Sandler people of my generation will probably understand that early comedy album I'll jump it off your cock and balls for a little while

you played that for us and they were just kind of like cool I was like dude I used to quote this I still quote it simpler time and jackknife

that was at the Airbnb he was playing that as Hyvitz was shoving his dirty laundry in my face. And everybody kind of just walked away. I thought it was funny. It was funny. It was funny. It was funny.

Yeah. It was more interesting than it was funny. God, that's the most insulting thing. But the time capsule. Totally. I can totally see in the moment why that would be hilarious. Well, that was like seventh grade or sixth grade or something like that.

Oh, dude. Listening on like a tape. Wait, when we, speaking of which, when you were in sixth seventh, because we're like same age, six seventh grade, do you remember Dane Cook was huge? Massive. Dane Cook was like, he was like the, first comedian to reach our generation

on iTunes. BK Lounge. I don't like your attitude, Chief. Everything's wet. The woman and the pickles. He had some good ones. I feel like everybody turned on him for some reason. I mean, I'm sure there was reasons. It's because he was stealing people's jokes.

Well, no, but also because he was the first person to get mega famous on the internet before people understood that the whole thing with the internet is to hate people and there was no fandom culture. But I think he got famous because I think he was the first person to understand And the iTunes store was like a crazy way. Guy's going to,

guy's like, what's the iTunes store? But like he used the iTunes store. Like he got on my iPod first. He was the first comedian to get to, I was like, I don't know. And I'm listening to this.

And I remember he had some joke about like, like, he was talking about like eating a girl out. And I didn't even know what that meant. And my mom's like, shut this the fuck off. And I was just like, oh, I was hoping to figure out what that meant.

Yeah. It was his special. I think it was called vicious circle. Sorry, mom. That was a big one. Vicious circle is huge. Vicious circle. And his stage was a circle

and he was surrounded by the whole stadium. He was just like, very intense. He's like, we're about to start a relationship. Oh, is that how he started it? Something like that.

What's he up to? He just does a Vegas residency? I think he got a lot of hatred. He got a lot of hate. He got a lot of hatred. He didn't have like a crazy Britneysters breakdown, but it was a similar era of celebrity where you know how John Maloney is like

your comedian's favorite comedian? Dan Cook is like your favorite comedian's least favorite comedian. 100%. So I think he just, he actually, he definitely got too much hate and he is really funny and probably should, you know, his reputation should be probably better than it is. But yeah, and there was also a whole thing about him like stealing people's jokes, which I don't know how accurate that is. Also, Snip Snap. Talk about a Snip Snap. Like, because then he went on Louis and the Louis C.K. show and like the scripted show and they did a bit with Louis C.K. and Dane Cook, and the thing that has, like, basically Louis CK. He needs Taylor Swift tickets and he needs Dane Cook, but he accused Dane Cook of stealing his jokes. And they had a conversation. about, like a very serious conversation about

like, you think you're the first person ever having an itchy asshole, Dane? And they have the conversation. And everyone's like, oh, Louie got Dane. And now it's like, yikes. It's like, oh, no, now it's aged really. People and glass houses. Although, I mean, Louis has made a bigger comeback than Dane Cook. Louis still showing out fucking arenas.

Yeah, he's got his whole direct email all year. No. No. Oh, he still has a big joke about that. He has a joke. I saw some show where he's like, I'm playing Poland. Don't ask why I'm playing it I don't know something like that

Warsaw All right that's all we got Thank you DK, thank you Craig Thank you Kai and Carlos Who are probably also gonna murder me in my sleep Thank you Austin

Thank you everyone for listening Email and phasingofancy football Atgmogam Thank you Lorne Lord Thank you the flaming lips Oh Who's that?

You've heard of them? I have but I don't really know much about them I don't either really I mean I've heard a couple of their songs Like a couple of those songs What era are we talking Like 80s 90s 90s? 90s-ish I think

it's a good question no maybe earlier 80s psychedelic rock band formed in 1983 in Oklahoma City what's that big song the one that I remember

the most is Yoshimi battles the pink robots her name is Yoshime you'd probably recognize it I guess I don't know

I was the name of the band though Flaming lips is good yeah flaming lips is good do you realize Do you realize is a really famous song. How's it going to sing it?

Do you realize? I don't know. That was a pretty bad impression. So the reason why I'm getting more information about the NFL's, the Super Bowl ratings. The record high streaming viewership is because of Tooby. Oh. Tube basically allowed you to watch the Super Bowl for free. Right.

You didn't need cable. You didn't need the subscription service is just free. It's ad supported free. and apparently it had 14.5 million viewers alone on Tubey. 13.6 million viewers on Tube alone. And they're saying that that was kind of the difference. Why, a mediocre game where the ratings were kind of mid,

just enough people were like, this is great. Probably a lot of young people, honestly, who are like, I don't have cable and I don't pay for YouTube TV, but I can watch this people for free. But here's the question for you. If there's a house of, like, say, four people, and it's like a husband, wife, and like, let's say two kids are like 10 and 15.

Okay. That's a dream. That's the dream. If the old days, if they had a Nielsen box and there were four people in the house and the Super Bowl's on, Nielsen would count four people, right? You had a Nielsen box, right, TK? Yeah. That was the way we did it, yeah. In the house.

Now, if they have the TV on downstairs and the 10-year-olds just streaming the Super Bowl in his own room on 2B, are they counting that four people for the house and then his 2B counts as a fifth person? I don't know that. I don't know the answer to that. Because I feel like they would count it. Yeah, maybe. I'm like, I just like to double counting people streaming on their own phone in the same room.

I feel like the Tooby thing is a sign that there's just like a lot of people who weren't paying for cable or streaming services and they were like, I can watch the Super Bowl for free. I think that's what they, I'm sure there's 14 million people

that know what Tubey is. That's actually, dude, that's kind of where I'm going. I'm sure that's true to a degree, but I also think that they're probably just double counting people who are going to watch it anyway and they're kind of making that seem

like there's increase in market share and I'm like, you know what? Sorry, Tooby. Too-B. Kind of don't think so. Has 100 million monthly active users. 100 million? People love free, man.

Dude, this is Kismog and Zushka for streaming platforms. What? What country? There's Tube. There's Tubi and Pluto and Pluto and Pluto. What is Pluto? Is it Paramounts version of Tubi? Yes, there's 330 million.

No, no, I'm saying, are there 100 million Americans that watch Tooby? Good question. That can't be right. Well, it has 100 million monthly active users. That's around the world. That's around the world. I want to know more. I'm saying it's like, is this like a very,

Popular thing in India or something? Other continents, other countries? I don't know. But people love free. That's what it is. That's true. People will sign up for fucking Pluto and FreeVee and Tooby and B and B. Getsamog and Boe-B and Borgo and Zushka.

Yeah, Zendaya is Miki. Miki is incredible. Michi. So much should make Michi. I watch the Super Bowl. I'm Meechie. It's like all the... Gwangi is a great service.

All the apps. All the apps that you do. you have to use at work? Oh my God. Oh my God. It's Spotify? There's so many. I could scroll.

We should power rank them. Power rank the portals. Dude, I'll go through them. Jamph. Stop. That's not real. Figma. Figma?

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In a lie Danny DeVito was Dorgel That's how I log That's how Kai logs his hours On Dorigle I hate the fucking Madlibs era Emails two of these

At a lie Two work platform portals I have to get travel approved On Guanghi Oh my God Dude I just Ripped through like 15 of those names

Those are all real companies. We need to know how to use them. No, I don't know. Jamps. You already said that one, right? I know. That's my favorite one.

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