The Ringer NFL Show - Way Too Early Top 12 Fantasy Rankings, Mom Sports Takes, and Why Do We Smell Rain

Episode Date: February 16, 2026

The guys reveal their way-too-early 2026 fantasy rankings, debating how deep the first round really is and which roster-building strategies will define next season’s drafts. They also get into risk vs. ceiling, regression talk, and the biggest questions shaping early fantasy draft boards. (00:00) Intro (01:39) Way Too Early Rankings (54:37) Sleeping When It's Raining (01:00:26) Emails Discord link:  https://discord.gg/Ge8bbYHrau Check out the 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings: https://fantasyfootball.theringer.com/ Email us! [e-mail] Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Cameron Dinwiddie Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the ringer fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hyphen. Today I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck, and we are going over our way to early rankings for 2026. Totally blind. We didn't look at anything. We just post Super Bowl, just sat down and just were like, who would we take in the first round?

We haven't seen each other's rankings. Well, I've seen yours. You guys haven't seen each other's, I don't think. And yeah, we're all just going to show, same time, right? We're going to flash each other with our rankings. Yeah. Actually, though. So I looked at yours.

I averaged them, but we're going to just go through. tell you who we think blind would we would take in the first round in this goes best i love it i'm ready for the season i'm ready for draft season i'm ready for draft season i'm already there mentally honestly i it is there's nothing more fun in the entire fantasy football season than creating rankings yes so it is the best it's fan fiction so full disclosure we recorded this wednesday february 11th we're releasing this later so if there's a ton of NFL news that's happened between now and then we'll talk about it next week because we still have episodes coming out and then the week after the week you're listening this will be at the NFL

combine. So stick with us. Draft season, getting going. We're giving you a combine preview and just a bunch of draft stuff from the combine soon. Trades. We are actively ignoring the fact that the Dolphins hired Kevin Petulow to be their past game coordinator. We're not going to talk about that. That's a choice. What is there to say? Intentional. So, yeah, let's just get into the rankings and who we would take in the first round next year. I think pretty representative. We have number one. We have Jemier Gibbs for the Lions and number two. We have Bejohn Robinson. Craig and I have Gibbs first. D. D. I don't think there's a wrong answer and I could be convinced either way.

To be 100% honest, my tiebreaker in my head was that quarterback. Yeah, Michael Penix is coming off a knee reconstruction and it's barely played in the NFL and that just feels riskier. I didn't know where this was going to go because I think this is the first year in a while

where like you could probably give me six guys that could be the number one pick and I'd be like, yeah. Like usually it's like one or two guys, maybe three. I literally think Gibbs, Bijan Puka, Jamar Chase, Injigba, and McCaffrey, fuck, you could throw on Jonathan Taylor. And I'd be like, yeah, maybe.

Like, there are six or seven guys who all could be number one. This is like a very weird, this is not a good year to have the number one overall pick, I think. I think you're right. Like, in terms of what I judge you if you took this person first, Jemir Gibbs, no way, Bejan Robinson, no way, Puka Nukua, no way, Jemar Chase, no way. But to your point, even someone wanted to take Christian McAfro at the first pick.

I'm not going to be like. Oh, moron. Like, I agree. I think having the fourth or fifth pick and just knowing you're going to get one of those people is by far the move. I mean, the fact that you could get fourth pick and you're going to get Jamar Chase, Bijon, Gibbs, or Puka is fucking crazy. Yeah. D.K., you had Bijan one? Yeah.

And it is kind of a tough one. Did you have Gibbs, too? I did, yeah. Yeah. It's like between those two. And obviously, I love Gibbs. I think he's awesome and he's so explosive. But, you know, he is still kind of sharing the backfield.

that is kind of a consideration. Bijan does as well. But Bejohn, it was, I think if it really came down to it, the tiebreaker for me was just that he's bigger and stronger and just sort of looks more like a foundation back than Jemir Gibbs. So Jimir Gibbs, wimpy, wimpy, wimpy.

Bejon had almost 2,300 scrimmage yards last year, which was, it's actually among the top 10, I think, at all time in a season. He had more scrimmage yards than Chris McCaffrey. He's just, he's awesome. He does it in the, in the receiving game as well.

He had 820 receiving yards, which I think kind of flies under the radar. He had almost 1,000 yards receiving. And he's obviously very, very good on the ground. So I don't know. I just kind of want to be jar, but... It flew under the radar because the Falcons were eliminated from the playoffs in the first week of December.

It's just... That is why. Right. It is weird that... I'm trying to think it's not often that the number one overall pick is on a bad team. It is kind of weird that the Falcons are like a very middle-of-the-road football team right now. and I don't think anybody has projections for them

to like suddenly win 12 or 13 games next year. Right. Well, I could see them winning the division very easily. Like Kevin, I think the difference also, I think the Falcon's coaching staff is a big advantage. Kevin Stefansky is the head coach. They have Tommy Reese as the offensive coordinator. They were on the offensive line coach Bill Callahan.

If you just look at what Stifansky's did for running backs, like everywhere he's been, people have had like a lot of career years. Again, it just comes back to like he can't help Michael Pennix with his knee. And I think it's like a McCaffrey thing where Michael Pennix might be great, but if Michael Pennings has any injury, you'll feel stupid. And that's it.

But even then, again, maybe the backup doesn't matter because to Dek's point, the rest of the, the word profile kind of annoys me sometimes, but Bijon, he catches passes. He's the goal line guy probably. I think with Tyler L.G, I think the new coaching staff, I think Bichon will get the ball everywhere, and he's going to be the superstar.

And he can have huge explosive plays. And so Bijon, in any other situation, the quarterback is the only thing, I guess, holding him back for me for being the first pick. Yeah. Quietly, Alger is a free agent this year. Yeah. Which could be good or could be bad.

I don't know. And again, the people who drafted him aren't there anymore. I think the question, the thing that I considered, like, what I felt was the most difficult part of this process was, I just couldn't decide if I, originally I put a bunch of receivers first. Originally, I had like the Puka, Jamar Chase, and Jigba. I was like one, two, three. and because I feel like I

slightly more confident in them and yet I ended up being like McCaffrey was the most important person in fantasy last year Jonathan Taylor for 10 weeks was the most important person in fantasy the year before that

it was Sequin Barkley it is always a running back and ultimately if you have the running back who pops it's still the best thing you could have in fantasy which is why I ultimately then put two running backs back at the top I agree with all that

I did the only receiver I considered putting first overall as Pooka Nakuwa. And I put him second. I was surprised. Craig, I literally had Puka first that I moved him down to the second overall player. And then Craig, I saw you have Pooka as your third receiver.

You've him as your fifth guy. I have Jemar Chasingh and Jigba ahead of him. It's all risk assessment to me. I'm like, I don't trust Matt Stavford's health and I don't trust Pooka's health. And that's all it is. Like I am much more confident that Jumar Chase will stay healthy, that Jackson Smith and Jigba with Darnel.

I guess Burrough is also a dice roll. But it is an even year. that with the Bengals, the even years, they're good, the odd years, they're bad. So this is a good year coming in for the Bengals. But yeah, I was just like, Stafford's 38. Puka's constantly getting the shit kicked out of them. I'm splitting hairs. Yeah, I mean, I think that is the point is the top.

There's, there just feels, some years it feels a little light and then this year feels like really heavy talent wise of the first round. Like, I mean, Pooka, the case is obvious where like it's the, he's the new guy. And it's like Matt Stafford, again, Calvin Johnson, Cooper Cup, Triple Crown, like Pooka He gets the ball every game. Puka had, I think Puka could easily win the triple crown this year if he stays healthy. To your point, the parlay on Stafford of Puka together staying healthy. But Puka led the league and catches.

He led the NFL in first downs. He led the NFL in yards per game. And a weird quirk is this always happens with someone in their prime. Puka right now has the most receiving yards per game ever for his career. He's at 95. Really? Because what happens is guys, when they get lower down in their career, they start to go down. So it actually becomes like who's in their prime.

Like, you know, Julio Jones had this for a while. then you keep playing and your yards per game drops. But right now, Pook is the all-time NFL leader for yards per game. And the difference to me is just Jackson Smith and Jigga has a new offensive coordinator. Like, isn't that enough of a tiebreaker to put JSN below Puka was the way I looked at it?

But I mean, honestly, I think the other interesting thing with Pook is, I don't know if it makes him better or worse. He feels like a real receiver now off the field. Like he's getting in trouble streamers. He's drunk tweeting during the Super Bowl. He's had quite a run the last month. He seemed very drunk at the Super. There's a video of him.

staggering around like the San Francisco. And he posted like Lal Darnal during the Super Bowl. Clearly was, he seemed blackout drunk. He's like, he just seems like very famous right now in Los Angeles, like very rich, very famous. Gotta be careful. I don't know if that makes him better or worse, but I do think the range of it. Like he's like a receiver now. This is like.

Well, and it's like because he was not a high draft pick, this is like when somebody gets famous overnight. Yes. It's so crazy. It's the Bill Murray. quote about when someone gets really famous, you have to give them a year of grace because their whole life has changed. Like the beginning, it was like, oh, he's a rookie. He's jack in the box on the way home and on the way to work. And he doesn't know Los Angeles. And now it's like,

oh, he's just a very, very, very rich. What's a good, what's a good Hollywood version of this? Somebody who got famous super quick and flamed out. And then kind of like went off. It was like, what's his name? The guy from Transformers. Shilbaugh. Shil Buff kind of went off the defend a little bit? I mean, there's a lot of guys who got famous and like started to struggle quickly. I mean, look at, I mean, a lot of them get dark. Yeah, I was going to say, it's not fun. Sure. But yes, it happens a lot. Is it weird that that was kind of my only thing with Puka. I mean, it's the stafford health, Pook, but that's the thing. The only thing gets away is Stafford getting hurt and Pooka getting hurt, but there is no football case that that Puka won't be a top

that guy every single week. No, if he's on the field, he's probably the wide receiver one. It's Timmer. Every week. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we have Gibbs first and Bijon second and honestly it's 1A1B. I will change my mind at that a ton of times. But I do think we'll start and end with well, Pennix. Who knows what's up with this? Do you think that real quick? Do you think Gibbs is still ascending? Or do you think we've seen the apex? Do you know how old is? How old is he's 23 years old? Yeah. How the fuck is that he's so wild. He turns 24 in a month, but still I, I, I, I, he's somehow, so he's still a line's offending for sure. Yeah. It's just the Lions offense thing. It's like, It's just the lines have a new offensive coordinator, Drew Petsing from Arizona.

It's just more about the surrounding. Can he keep having three touchdowns every other week for junior games? You know what I mean? So we have Pookas or third overall player top receiver. And then the second receiver, top four players, Jamar Chase, we have fourth. We're, I mean, frankly, players who are this talented and this young in situations this good just aren't usually available fourth. Like Jamar Chase won a triple crown two years ago. And the Bengals, once again, are probably going to have an elite offense at a terrible defense.

the fact that you could just sit at fourth and get Jimar Chase is pretty hard to believe. Did Jamar Chase have the quietest 1,400 yard, 8 touchdown receiving season that you can remember? Because it felt to me like he didn't do all that much. It was weird because he was obviously scoring a lot of points and he was fine in fantasy. But it just, it didn't feel like he had that big of a season. I look at his stats. He had 125 catches in 1400 yards. He was the number 12 non-quarterback last year in fantasy football.

and you had no idea. Yeah. Nobody had one Jamar Chase conversation. It's just, it was just all because Burrow was hurt and it was a mess. I think we had a few Jamar Chase conversations. There was the game where he had four targets and three tackles. Well, in the game when he caught like 29 passes against the Steelers, yeah. And uncovered on the 23rd target of the game.

He had 16 catches for 161 yards. I'm happy because this is the year I will have Jamar Chase. I said it last year. And when he was the number one overall pick and I did. didn't get him in any leagues. And I'm going to do it this year because there is a very slight discount on him. And I'm ready to pounce all over it

because the puka hype is high and everything went right last year. Jason hype is high. Yes, everything went right that year too. Everything went wrong for Jemar Chase. And talent-wise, I still think I'd probably pick him number one. This is another one. How old do you think Jemar Chase is, Craig?

18. He's 25? He's 25. Yeah. He's still, what is the, what is the apex year for a receiver, do you think? 25, 26. Right there, probably right there.

Yeah. Yeah, 26. Craig, you said it. I think you just said it. Do you still think he's the best receiver in the NFL? Yeah. I do too. I think there's an S tier and within that it doesn't matter,

but Jamar Chase is there's no one that's like definitively, definitely better than him. I think that he's unbelievable. Do you feel like that's that like Puka, Jamar Chase and Injigba? That is the tier. That's what I wanted to ask you guys. Is it a top four of like there's, there's, well, overall people you can take first. And I wouldn't be surprised.

Pooka Naku with Jamar Chase, Jemir Giz Bejohn Robinson. Is it a four-person tier or is it five? Like, is McCaffrey in here for you guys? Is JASN in here for you guys? I think that if you wanted to parse it, Jemir, Bijan, Puka, Jamar, and Jackson Smith, and Jigba are all very young. And then you have another tier where Christian McCaffrey is 30 years old. It's funny because it depends what you want.

Because the next two players we have are J.S.N. is five. And Christian McCaffrey's six. It's funny to have to see them side by side. J.S.N. just had the eighth most receiving yards ever. Offensive player of the year, led the NFL in yards per touch at 14 and a half. And then Christian McCaffrey was the number one running back in fantasy. And somehow we have him two spots higher than last year, even though that happened. If Christian McCaffrey was 25, he'd be the number one overall pick, right?

There's nothing wrong with the situation. It is literally only that Christian McCaffrey's 30 and not 25. There's nothing yet. And that like much like the Bengals, every other year, McCaffrey kind of crashes and burns. On that note, I think I figured out Christian McCaffrey's fantasy legacy. He is the, on a season by season basis,

I think Christian McCaffrey is by far the most boom or bust player in the history of fantasy football. Like if you just look at his seasons, Christian McCaffrey almost single-handedly brought you to the semifinals or maybe the championship four or five times. Like if you had Christian McAfee in 2018,

2019, 2022, 2023, or last year, year. McCaffrey probably single-handedly got you in the Final Four teams. But if you had Christian McCaffrey in 2020, 2021, or 2024, he probably single-handedly ruined your season. Which is honestly not a bad hit rate. If you basically flip a coin in every other year, you're like a top two seed because of McCaffrey. Yeah, five out of eight years, he's got you the Final Four. And the other three, he's just destroyed you. And so it's funny because it's that versus JSN where you're like, JSN has been that every bit like maybe a top player you'd pick once, but now he's losing the coordinator in Seattle that did that with him.

They have to hire a new coordinator. And all the players around him, if they re-signed Rashid Shaheed will have a whole offseason instead of coming in at week nine. Tori Horton's a rookie who got hurt. Cooper Cup is like they're going to put him out to pasture age. Like all the people around JSN are like, you know, younger and theoretically going to get better. And JSN had more than one out of every three targets was for him.

And so if a new coordinator comes in and decides, I think merely one out of every four targets should go to JSN. He's not worth taking first. So part of me is like, it's just a common sense of don't I want someone who's done this more than once, which everyone above him is done way more than once. And that's to me the pushpole with McCaffrey is I'm scared of how many times McCaffrey's done it. But he's done it five times. We talked a lot about Sequin's workload coming out of 2024 in how we thought there's a potential that he breaks down or that stuff usually doesn't happen twice back to back. McCaffrey last year had 70-ish more touches

than that fantastic 20-23 season. 70 more touches. He had 413 touches last year, I believe. Yeah. Does that raise any red flags for you two at all? Are you like, fuck it? Yes. How could it?

I mean, the old scary number you were supposed to be scared of was 370. He had 413. And we're not, we haven't even mentioned the big, huge, massive giant, uh, radiating, elephant in the room here. He also played two playoff games. Right. The elephant in the room here is the giant substation, electrical substation right next to the 49ers practice facility here, which we,

you know, look, it doesn't, it, I think he said it. It's not nothing. It's not nothing. I don't know what, I don't know what the science is, but it's not nothing. He was questioning everything, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, microwave, whatever. Yeah. So there's that. which we have to take into account as well. It's weird. Like McCaffrey is kind of, I can't tell if he's the opposite of Derek Henry, but it's like,

is he a doubt him at your own peril type of guy? Or is this, I can't believe I got one last season of McCaffrey in, and now I'm happy to ever draft him again. I think the answer is probably what you said, because here's the thing, I do think that the crazy- I probably won't draft him, which is stupid. Yeah, I agree.

But also I'll take him, and that also might be stupid. And I think that the truth is, these crazy workloads with these guys who are older happening in bursts or spurts. And if you look at McCaffrey, there's been two or three year periods where his body's broken down. Sorry, two or three years where he was unbelievable.

And then his body breaks down for a year or two. And I mean, that's not exactly like revolutionary. But if you look, there's a pretty clear trend. And I think he got the entire year off in 2023 and everyone focused on the bilateral Achilles tendonitis because it was spreading like the rot. But in reality, he actually got a year off. And I think the question is, like, if McCaffrey had another 400 touches this year and was incredible again, I would actually take my chips off the table for 2027 because I don't want to bet on him doing three straight years.

But we do see guys doing it two years in a row sometimes, like Derek Henry, like these guys, like, Hall of Famers. Like, he's a Hall of Famer. And the number, like, if he was 29, doesn't that even change your mind a little bit that he's 30? Like, part of it's he's 30. If he's 29 would be a little. I think McCaffrey is going to be the biggest. fantasy conundrum this season. He was last season.

Again. Again. Because he is not Derek Henry. I mean, Derek Henry, half of the reason that Derek Henry is who Derek Henry is, is he's larger than life. He's actually like 1.5 times bigger than everyone on the field. And Chris McCaffrey's, you know, a little guy. And so I, it's, Craig, you said, is it doubt him at your own peril?

To me, that really feels more like Henry. Doubt Henry at your own peril. With McCaffrey, I think the doubt is very logical. That being said, I'm more than willing to roll the dice on him because of the amount of touches that he gets. Like just, he is a volume hog. And that's probably not going to change unless he gets hurt. It's interesting because the conversation around Sequin last year, right,

with all of his touches. In the regular season, he had less touches than Christian McCaffrey did last year. Sequin in 2024, I had less touches. He had 100 more, but he had 500 plus, didn't he? Or he had almost 500. Well, that's because through the playoffs, right? Yes. But McCaffrey had over 400 in the regular season.

Sequin, I don't believe, did. I think he had like $370, whatever. But my point is, is that we were all out on Sequan this year. And while we were right from a result standpoint, Seekwan did not get hurt. Like, and I feel like the breakdown of him was a fear, but it was really an Eagles. issue. It was like the offensive line was a mess.

Petulos play calling. The offense was just discombobulated, but Sequin wasn't necessarily like worse. He would still probably have been great had the situation been better. So, I would say that makes me a little bit more willing to take a chance

on McCaffrey. I think it's, yeah, it's the simple. It's like the rule of 370. If you have 3.70, carries your touches in a year. That rule is 20 years old. Like these guys have bio, like we've, the biometrics training, these guys are doing the tracking, like the player data. Again, we talk about it all the time. Even us talking about Alvin Camero weighing his legs and then measuring his heart and telling him

he needs a different kind of cardio fitness so that when he comes back after a long run to the huddle, he's not gasped. Even that conversation is three years old now. Like, it is crazy how much access these guys have. And I think it's as simple as you probably can do this. Again, all that complicated stuff leads to you can probably do this two years in a row, but maybe not three. And I think that I love how fucking speculative this is. We're just like, It's speculative, but it's funny. You watch the, because, you know, we literally just... Craig, fantasy football, pretty speculative.

Us being like, I feel like he can do it again. Well, that's the thing, though, because you look... I know, it's so stupid to talk about, but it comes down to this. Every week he's healthy, McCaffrey is a number one running back and the number one running back, because even when he can't run for four yards of carry like last season, the receiving work is crazy. Like, he's a thousand-yard receiver and a running back and a goal line back. But I, so I look at that is like, isn't it the obvious thing?

like, oh, just fucking reach and take Brian Robinson. And he won't be the same if McCaffrey gets hurt because he won't be the same receiver. But part of me is like, the Niners will probably be a better rushing team next year because they won't be injured. And it's like, you know what, take McCaffrey, eat your medicine and just draft Brian Robinson so you can sleep at night. And I don't know. The one thing I will say that's very different between Sequin and Chris McCaffrey.

And I don't know if this matters. It probably matters a little bit because when you're catching a football, a lot of times you're running out of bounds or whatever. I think there's less, would you agree that there is less wear and tear on receptions than on carries? I think that's true. It's a lot of angle routes for McCaffrey

where he's splitting linebackers and going down. I think that's accurate. And so like last year, McCaffrey had 102 catches. That's a huge part of his volume. He had 311 carries, which is a lot. That's not nothing.

But, I mean, compare that to Saigon Barkley. Last year, let's look at us 2024, for 2024 season. He had 345 carries and then he only had 33 catches. 70 less catches. Can I give you

my dumbest analysis ever? No, no, hold on. Wait, I got it. Craig, to your question, I have, here's the analysis. Let's make it even dumber. We've always said, before the sub pre-substation,

our joke, but we were kind of serious about why the 90s were getting hurt was that Shanahan was too good of a schemer and he was drawing up plays that were getting his guys up to full speed. Like there was, you know, There were always the stats that the Niners. Like the kickoffs.

Yeah, the running backs were crossing on the scrimmage at the fastest miles per hour with the tracking because Shanahan was scheming plays that they were zooming. So the collisions were happening really hard. Like they were just, and that's why everyone was hurt. But the Niners sucked last year at running the ball. So if you think about it, all the collisions were really slow.

So if you think about it, McCaffrey really didn't get hurt at all. And McCaffrey looked slower. He's getting stuffed two yards into the run. And it's like, big deal. Doesn't hurt at all. Doesn't hurt nearly as much. No gains. No pain.

We should ask running backs that. Like, we shut the combine. No gains, no pains. It's more, more fender benders less, or fewer full-on T-bos in the intersection. Yeah. Is it bad that that's the dumbest thing I've ever said, and I also kind of think I'm right? It feels a lot like cope, but that's fine. Yeah.

I do think, I would say generally, it feels like receptions are less wear and tear than carries. And that is a huge, huge part of McCaffrey's game. We can say whatever you want. on the board. Are you taking Christian McCaffrey or J.S.N.? Probably Chris McCaffrey, honestly. I know what J.S.N. just did, but I do feel like he's kind of one of the main guys who's due for regression next year. He had a 35% target rate last year, which was by far the most in the NFL. No, I have a tattoo that says ignore regression under my eye, so I probably won't be listening to that. But I need to want, you know what?

I need to read the reports in August before I make that decision. Craig, we don't have them right now, so just give me an answer. Let's say he's practicing, like normal. It's February. I'll say McAfree. Sure. There you go.

There you go. Okay. So then, there's no consequences here. The top six is Gibbs and Bijan, Puka, Jamar Chase, J.S.N. McCaffrey. Seventh, we have Jonathan Taylor. And James Cook right next to each other.

We have James Cook 8th. I, dude, Jonathan Taylor, we talked about this. Well, the last episode came out. We just record it. We're doing this back-to-back Wednesday, February 11th, the rules. But again, the first half of the season, Jonathan Taylor was a single most important player

in fantasy football and literally had a hundred more points than Bejean Robinson through 10 weeks. He had 20 touchdowns this year. The second half of the season, Jonathan Taylor was behind Zach Charbonnet and Tony Pollard. And so... Brutal.

It was just like Daniel Jones got hurt and it wasn't the same. And then Daniel Jones got really hurt with the Achilles. And then it was like, you know, Philip Rivers came out. And so evaluating this, almost feels like evaluating Daniel Jones' Achilles' recovery,

to which I don't, I got to be honest, I don't really know how to rank Jonathan Taylor because I don't even know how to evaluate this. No one does. It was very clear. When Daniel Jones was healthy, I mean, it's a direct correlation between, they started to slow down around week 11, and that's right when Daniel Jones hurt in his leg.

And then two weeks later, he tore his Achilles and then the offense was a disaster. But, yeah, the question is like, if Daniel Jones is on the field, week one, is that enough for you to feel confident in drafting Jonathan Taylor? Or is the recovery from the Achilles and how limited he'll be physically enough to deter you from from Jonathan Taylor? If he's on the field, I'll draft Jonathan Taylor.

I think I will too. But of course you'll take him. The question is, which is take him over James Cook is the perfect. I think it's smart to have him back to back, not smart, but like representative. They're both like James Cook, how many, he just led the NFL at rushing yards. and the coordinator is the head coach now, would you take Jonathan Taylor over James Cook? It's ceiling versus floor.

I think James Cook is a fantastic floor. And I think Jonathan Taylor, as we saw when he had 17 touchdowns in 10 fucking games, what the ceiling is. Yeah, I think I would take Jonathan Taylor just by an edge, like just barely. How big do you think the talent disparity is? I personally think Jonathan Taylor is

like as good of a running back at running the football in the NFL. And, James Cook, I think, is very, very, very good, but not at that level. Yeah. It's interesting that they play the same position because they're very different stylistically. You know, James Cook is small. He's a slasher.

The offense creates space for him. He's, I think, a patient runner. And then Jonathan Taylor is just a powerhouse. He's just explosive and big plays and things like that. But yeah, I would say without question, Jonathan Taylor is a better pure runner. surprisingly Jonathan Taylor had more catches than James Cook did this last year

Jonathan Taylor had 46 receptions James Cook had 33 You don't really think of Jonathan Taylor as a pass catcher but he had he had way more than James Cook did James Cook was on another team he'd have a ton but it's Josh Allen's checkdowns or scrambles so you know

He ends up also I think a lot of Jonathan well no I guess they weren't all Philip Rivers checkdowns but yeah I don't know the Jonathan Taylor thing just trying to figure out Daniel Jones as Achilles recovery will be huge. And also I don't know how to do it right. So we'll have to figure that out.

I think middle of the first round is correct for Jonathan Taylor. Somewhere there, yeah. The next, so then we have Amon Ross St. Brown for the Lions who somehow is once again the most boring player in this round where it's just casual, consistent greatness. No one gives a shit because he was like a middle round pick. And like all of us had him either eighth, ninth or tenth. And then boring, reliable always, even though he's not even boring. Like you listen to him to talk.

He's really like he's funny. He's inches. He's intense. Totally. But as a player, something about him. He's just here and this is exactly where he should be. And he'll probably deliver. He's... Go ahead, Craig.

He's only boring, in my opinion, because he's surrounded by Jumeer Gibbs and Jameson Williams. And if he were on a different team or those guys who were on the team, I don't even think his play style is that boring. I mean, he's kind of a smart, savvy receiver and will, like, avoid taking a hit. But I think he's super fun to watch. He's only 26 years old still. It's just because Jemir Gibbs and Jameson Williams are, you know,

race cars. And when you have a mona on your team, you feel like it's just, you're like, you're like, you feel great. You feel impenetrable. You're like, yeah, I'll just get 20 points again this week. It's so interesting because he had the same issue that Jamar Chase did this year where he had the quietest, 1400 yard 11 touchdown season. Every year. It felt for whatever reason, and maybe you guys didn't think this, but I did. It felt like he had a down year, but that absolutely was fucking awesome. He was number four receiver. Just fucking keep putting your money in Amonra, St. Brown. It'll be fine. Amonra's the kinko broke making a profit.

They knew coordinator, drew petting, but it's still one of those. Like, the ball's going to go to Amonra. The next one here, this is, I thought these next few guys were hard to rank. Devon A. A. Chan for the Dolphins, we had 10th. Top five running back last year, even under bad circumstances. A. Chan is, again, the Bejan Robinson profile. Like, he can catch 100 passes.

He can run for 12 touchdowns. He can break a play from anywhere on the field. Also, Miami lost Mike McDaniels and head coach. We do not know who the Miami Dolphins quarterback will be. And that is a huge problem. Yeah, I think after a MonRaw at nine, I think the top nine is solidified. Then the end of the first round becomes pretty messy,

and I would not want it this year. Sometimes the turn is a great place to be. I would much rather have like the fifth or sixth pick. I have A. Chan lower. I have him 15th. Mike McDaniel, big deal to me. Yeah, 100%. We just talked about on the lessons episode,

like be aware of teams that lose their awesome coordinator. Miami is the top of that list for me this year. What he's able to do schematically to get HN, you know, in open space, we have, we don't know anything really about the Packers head coach. I mean, compared to others. Dolphins. Yeah. And now, sorry, the Dolphins head coach compared to others.

He's from the Packers. And then Kevin Petulow is now there. I don't know who the quarterback's going to be. That doesn't fill you with confidence? This whole thing is a mess. Like, if I'm wrong about this whole situation, so be it. I think this, I think he is the single hardest player to rank because he was the perfect fit for the Mike McDaniel offense. He was handpicked by Mike McDaniel.

The way that their offense worked with like quick passes and getting the ball out of two his hands immediately was massive. And that was huge for A-chan because he was essentially just like the checkdown option. Yeah, there's so many variable variables here. New head coach, new offensive coordinator, new quarterback. How do you rank this guy? Even though I think he's awesome. I personally, like Craig, you said you're fading him a little bit. I have no problem with that because I don't know what to do with them.

And I guess, look, the quarterback thing you could say, I mean, last year it was Tua and he was still great. So it can't really get much worse than that. But I think the Mike McDaniel piece is way bigger. But it's both because if they kept Mike McDaniel and signed Kirk Cousins to be the Dolphins quarterback, I'd be like, you could take Devon H. And I don't think that's crazy. You could take him ahead of Jamar Chase because you're like, all right, we know what Mike McDaniel likes to use them. Kirk Cousins is going to check down all the time.

They're going to have a lot of passes. the A. Jan Kirk's going to know how to get the ball into his hands. Like, H.N. might lead all running backs and catches. If you're telling me the quarterback's going to be, I mean, Kyler Murray or like whoever, someone who's going to scramble and like not check down, then suddenly I'm like, and on top of not knowing who the coordinator is, and I'm like, okay, we don't know what the game plan's going to be. Maybe they don't want H.N. is the goal line back.

Like, you don't know stuff, but what we just saw was someone who like really believed in him. So, yeah, the variance for H.N. feels huge. And again, in addition to the fact that he's a smaller guy and any kind of injuries he picks up, makes him not a superhero anymore, which is also a problem. So I agree, D.K., I think he's one of the harder people. I think him and the next guy, C.D. Lamb, I think were the two hardest people

for me to rank. Yeah, C.D. Lamb, who was outscored by George Pickens last year. We have C.D. Lamb 11th, and I didn't know what to do with him. And I think where I decided is I'm going to move him up and Pickens down, but it's weird to think of C.D. Lamb being outside the top 10 for any reason. Right. But it's also weird. I didn't know what to do.

Maybe we have him like way too low at 11. CD Lamb is interesting because for a variety of reasons like Dak Prescott's health, you know, the pickings thing, but he's really only had one great year. CD. It's 2023. He was fantastic. And he was like the best wide receiver in fantasy football. And then other than that, you're like,

last year he was the wide receiver 15. The year before that, he was the wide receiver 11. and he's only a double-digit touchdowns once. I don't know. I kind of was surprised going back looking at what C.D. Lamb has put together in his six seasons, or five seasons, six seasons. I think from a talent perspective, he's like elite.

And he's incredible. But he hasn't put it together that many times. And a lot of it is because Dak Prescott has been like hurt twice in his career. But with Pickens here now, I do think his floor is a little lower. I think this is right. I think end of the first round.

is right. I think so too. He had so, he hurt his ankle in the middle. I mean, he started out with like 220 yards in two games and then he hurt his ankle and he came to like a month. Too skinny. Never wrong. Just early. Dude, he is too skinny.

What about Pickens? He's skinny too. Pickens is not as skinny. Piggins isn't a human. He's a cat. George Pickens, the cat. That's very true. He jumps when he gets scared. While we hear, I just skip into this. Pickens, we had

honorable mentions. Where do you take Pickens? I just think I won't have Pickens because everyone's like, oh, George Pickens, I'll take him in the top 15. And I'm like the combination of franchise tag one year deal. It's going to drive him a little crazy because he's a volatile person. He's going to be on a contract year. Jerry's going to use him for content. I don't like that. And also I use him for content. He will be. He will use for media headlines with George Pickens needs new contract. But I don't know. Part of me thinks that CD, this is like the pendulum swings around and CD is going to be the person that DAC needs to kind of like. stroke the ego and I don't know. It's a weird, it's a weird situation, but I do think the answer

is probably like, this is one of those rare things where both guys probably end up top six receivers. Like they're both going to be elite. But I don't know. It makes it harder for me to rank CD Lamb. Do you think that like the, the, it worked for one year, Pickens in CD, like Jordan Poole and the Warriors and then the second year, Draymond punches him in training camp. Like a little, a little. I wonder. I wonder how long the friendship. Yeah, exactly. The honeymoon is over. or in other words, Craig, is that what you're thinking? Maybe they'll go to another restaurant in Las Vegas together.

I think just because I genuinely don't know, like there is a world in which Pickens, I guess, continues to outperform CD. And just because that's a possibility, I think I just, I have to lower CD and, and. Yeah. The other thing is, we're doing this ranking,

we're doing this ranking right now. We don't actually even know if he's going to be on the Cowboys next year. He's going to be on the Cowboys next year. He's going to be on the Cowboys. I mean, we say that, but there's all these, things that all the variables that are I think true he's a little volatile personality wise we don't know exactly how it went in year one also teams that just give big money to two receivers like

that doesn't I don't think that's like a lock that they're going to do that especially after they traded away their top defensive players so they could try and get better on defense you know what I mean does it move you at all that Jerry Jones said six days ago I want George Pickens to be a cowboy for a long time no not really he says a lot of shit I think the most likely scenario, yes, is that he plays for the Cowboys. But I think that also just, it is still possible that they tag and trade him or something like that. I mean, we didn't think they were going to trade friggin' Michael Parsons, you know?

I just wouldn't put anything past the Cowboys. Hopefully, George Pickens is told not to make a handshake deal with Jerry Jones in March that he tries to hold him to six months later. The, okay. So we have, so that's the top 11. We have Gibbs and Bijan basically is the top two. Pooka Nuku and Jamar Chay. I was top four.

And then we have like J.S.N. Christian McCaffrey. Then it's John, James Cook, Amonra St. Brown, Devon, A. Chan, Cidley Lamb. And then we have motherfucking Derek Henry 12th overall. H.A.N. feels too high here. As I'm like looking at this list, A. Chan feels too high and Derek Henry feels too low. Well, here's what I am just, I am my tattoo.

I am sticking with this. I am like, I, every time people say Derek Henry's his age, I don't care. Like, Lala. Like it's the, you know the fugitive when Harrison Ford's like, I didn't kill my wife. Tommy Lee Jones was like, I don't care. That's me. He doesn't yell it, but yeah.

I don't care. He does yell at the tunnel. He goes, I don't care. Oh, that's true. It was like, what is it called, Mandela effect? That's when you think someone's die. No, it's when everyone accepts that something happened or whatever. And it didn't actually happen.

Harrison Ford yells. He goes, I didn't kill my wife. He's pointing at him. And he goes, I don't care. Dude, but that's Derek. It's like, oh, he's the oldest running back in the league. Don't give a shit. I watched the end of the season, and he looked better than everybody on earth.

Fucking Derek Henry. Do you know how many leagues this guy? He cost me thousands of dollars. I'm not blaming him. It's not his fault. It's not his fault. It's not Derek Henry's fault. For what?

It's not his fault. What's not his fault? His sporadic production this year. Yeah, it was everyone got hurt. That's right. That's what I just said. Yeah. I can't, it's so insane.

This is right though. Again, right around 12 is right. Like he shouldn't be up there with Jimir Gibbs or Bijan know that. But yeah, end of the first round, Derek Henry, rock solid pick. You'll probably get him for a discount because as they do every year, we've been doing this since he was like 28, 29. 32, no one's going to want this guy, especially because of the weird Ravens year last year. So I think he'll honestly probably be a steal.

The other guy who I think is fringe in this area who from a 10, talent perspective belongs in the group that we've been discussing today is Justin Jefferson, who I was very low on last year. I regret, I have him 10th, which I don't even think that's right. You guys have him 16th and 18th. I'm just,

I'm basically, if Kurt Cousins is on the Vikings, where is Justin Jefferson ranked? Much higher. That's kind of how I'm thinking about it. Oh, top eight for sure. Maybe higher. I think Justin Jefferson,

you could put him fifth if you wanted to. Because you put him like third. Like third. Yeah. Where he is right now, we can like guarantee he won't be. August because if it's J.J. McCarthy, we will drop him lower. And if it's Kirk Cousins, we will raise him higher. The whole offseason, they're going to try to get Justin Jefferson

the ball. They're like, they have to make him happy. They need him more involved in the offense. But I agree that there's, I would rather just be wrong about Justin Jefferson and McCarthy makes him look good than have Justin Jefferson and McCarthy looks the same. If Kirk Cousins goes there, then, yeah, Jefferson, maybe a top five player. Yeah, top six. The person we have 13th, I want to ask you about that. We have Trey McBride. for the Cardinals to tight end. He was number one tight end by a country mile.

It's not like one of the more, because of the combination of George Kittal tearing his Achilles and Brock Bowers was kind of hurt and just bad, that the gap between McBride and the next tight ends was so much, like comically large.

I though kind of move him down. I think my, while doing this, I didn't intend for this, but I think my first take that I'm going to have for the fantasy season is, I'd rather just wait and take Brock Bowers. That's a good name for his show.

Oh, my first take. First take. Oh, that's good. Right. down. Yeah. There's something to do that. Okay. I like when you said that, I was like, wow, that's a, that's like a, that might even be a whole show. Anyway, continue. Let's cut this from the show because someone might take the idea. You can't steal this. I kind of just want Brock Bowers next year or be the last person to take a tight end. Because I kind of think,

like there's this whole next tier here of people. We were basically could be great, but flawed for some reason where it's like there's Ashton, Gentie and Seekwan or Justin Jefferson. Like there's, yeah, Gentie, Sequant, talented, what happened to the offense. There's Justin Jefferson quarterback question. There's Malik neighbors, staff, and, like, he just come up in ACL. Drake London, where it's like, this is quarterback Michael Penix and what's dealing with that? Nico Collins, you know, Rishi Rice, where it's like Mahomes towards ACL. And Rishie Rice has a lot going on.

George Pickens. And I'm kind of like Brock Bowers could just straight in catches, yards, and touchdowns. Brock Bowers could outdo all of those guys. Like, all of those guys. and it's not crazy because Brock Bowers' rookie year, he literally had like the best tight end season of all time. Like Brock Bowers as a rookie had 1,200 yards, 112 catches.

And I'm like, throw out last year. It was the worst team in the league. The coaching was horrific. The Co. Geno, Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly. And then he heard a PCL injury in his knee, which is like the worst case because you can play through it, but you're not really a great athlete anymore with a PCL injury. So if he's fully healthy and you have Clint Kubiak coming in,

even with Mendoza's a rookie, I'm kind of like, man, if Bowers is the centerpiece of the office, what if Bowers is a 28%? What if Bowers gets one under the three passes in this offense, the way JSN just did or anything resembling it? As a tight end, you're like, I would just take him over all these guys. I totally agree. I would take Brock Bowers over Trey McBride, and I think you could.

I mean, Travis Kelsey was going in the first round. Why can't Brock Bowers be going in the first round? You would take him over at McBride? I think people are going to be shocked by us saying that, Craig. Yeah, again, like, well, this is an interesting conversation to have with Vegas because I have Ashton Genti way higher than the two of you, which it's always funny when you see other people's rankings and you start to regret everything you've done. But you get like shame. But I don't know if

I'm doing the same thing I did last year with Genty, which is, I'm like, well, I like their head coach. I think he's a great play caller, right? That's the goal is you get a head coach who is also a play caller. So you feel good about that. They have Fernando Mendoza, who I, I think we'll be better than Gino Smith. And I feel confident in him, at least to be a floor razor with Clint Kubiak. I'm like, I like all that. And I think Ashton Jenty from a talent perspective is fucking really good.

And so I'm like, am I just doing the same thing I did last year? I was like, well, Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly and Gino Smith, I don't think is so bad. And this could all work out. I think I'm doing that again. But I think I'm just drinking the Kool-Lade on Vegas a little bit. And I probably shouldn't be. Yeah, you know what it reminds me of is, well, the reason I, The reason I was a little shocked you would take Bowers over McBride.

I think Bowers, if I had to choose, I would rather have Bowers on my team. I think he's a better player. But the rookie quarterback thing really makes me worried. Who's going to be the quarterback for the Cardinals? I think it's going to be Peret. And we've seen the results with Peret. Like Peret feeds him. If it's Peret, I would consider him.

But the staff has just turned over. It's a new coach. Again, the offensive court is Nate Hackett. The offense court is the end, he'll hack it. Bressett won one game. Why the fuck would they bring him back? Well, in his defense, I don't think it was the offense's fault. They lost those games.

They were scoring a lot of points. Yeah, I think they were worse than we think down the stretch. I feel like he had that one game where he had like 46 completions and he was good in fantasy. Sure. It sounds insane for us to not of McBride is the first pick. I think what I guess the way I'd say it is, I don't know, like, realistically, you won't have to rank Bowers over McBride. I think what I'm saying is like,

McBride will probably be the number one ranked tight-ed in, and Bowers will be two, but they'll kind of be reversed to where they were last year. Last year, Bowers was like making it up the 15th pick and McBride was like 21st or 25th or something. And I think that that's going to flip.

McBride will be like the 14th or 15th pick in drafts and Bowers will be later, but I'd actually rather wait and get Bowers because I think he might be better straight up, which sounds crazy, but then when you see the two coaching, I'm like, I just think Arizona is going to be a mess. And then generally speaking, I don't want to rely on a team being a mess

to like be the same kind of mess as they were last year, if that makes sense. I agree. McRide's great. I have nothing, no problem with them. Same. He's awesome. They're neck and neck,

but I tend to agree that I think I'd probably just prefer to take Bowers this year, especially where they're going. Is it silly that we're talking about Bowers and McBride over Sequin? Like, are we like, are we underrating Seekwan? Is it like too much recency bias with what he did last season? I got to tell you, my plan,

and one of my tattoos, written down was like take say Juan bounce back year like it's obvious but I will say Jeff Stoutland leaving for the Eagles like their offensive line coach their run game coordinator and him being like this is a mess and then like the stoutling thing is tough yeah I I don't love the idea that Jeff Stoutland the guy who was designing all the runs and everything left and is like widely considered like the architect teach he's the guy teaches the Eagles offensive line how to play offensive line and it's like the guys that he's developed Lane Johnson again Jason Kelsey's a sixth round center.

He's going to make the All-Fame. Jordan Mila had never played football before. He's the top five left tackle. Like the amount of people that Jeff Stoutland would just teach and plug, and they could plug and play and they, guys that the only- Mackey-Becton has never played football well. I know. I cannot believe this shit.

What an idiot. Mackay-Becton's only good football in the last five years was for Jeff Stoutland. The amount of people they do that for. What do you do here? I know. And so that makes me nervous with Seek-on. But I agree that Seek-on's probably a good value. Like, you're going to be in your second round against Seekwan.

It's probably pretty good. Like, you could probably get Derek Henry and Sequin with the last pick. You could get Derek County 12th and Sequin 13th and be like, huh, this isn't very hard, is it? That's funny because that's like the last year version of getting like McCaffrey and Jonathan Taylor. Yes, yes it is. You're like, wow, people are worrying about the wrong things. So, yeah, I think Sequin's the question there. Because I will say, I think the receiver, and one of the reasons I ultimately decided to not put Puka first was looking at how many receivers there are later in the second round.

Like, let's just say for a second, it's that order. Let's say it's like Trey McBride or whatever, Sequin, like the guys that we have 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21st are like Rishy Rice, Drake London, Nico Collins, Malik neighbors, George Pickens. All those guys are capable of being top five receivers and no one would blink an eye. And they all have slightly issues,

but the sheer volume of them makes me kind of want to get, there's a lot of solid running backs I kind of prefer. Yeah. This is the case every year. And it's why lately, I'm so much more committed to taking a running back in the first round. I'm just like the wide receivers are deeper than ever with the conversation. Every year, it feels like it gets deeper and deeper and deeper.

And it's like, well, I don't think I need to take Jackson Smith and Jake but four when I could get Drake London at 21 and then whoever. Yeah. Christian McCaffrey. If we're severely underrating people, again, who the entire offense might revolve around, you could argue it's Rishie Rice, where for the Chiefs, or Malik Neighbors for the Giants, both those guys have issues. I will say, Rishie Rice, we don't have to.

get it all his off-season stuff, all-field stuff. But, man, I... Is there more? Well, it's... His, his, the mother of his child posted at Instagram, and I will say, it's different than just reading a headline where it's like a news description of a police report, of a, you know, the car crash that he caused, drag racing. When you see, his mother was child posted Instagram and you read it, you're like,

Jesus Christ, like, God. You're like, I don't know. Just get left a bad taste in my mouth. Oh, okay. I didn't see that. Anyway, I got him 16th. so I don't think I'm a good person. I'm trying to high horse anyone.

No, but you're right. I mean, when he's on the field, like if Rishish and Mahomes are on the field together, he's like a top five wide receiver. Like the whole lot, it's heliocentric, like every play seems for him. And also,

he just did it again. Where do you guys stand on Ashton Genty? I was going to say, Craig, I think the two most interesting people that we've talked about today are Ashton Genty and Bowers because I don't know what to do with them because I'm afraid we're doing the things,

thing that we did, and obviously this is a very different thing because, you know, Cam Ward had a really tough rookie season. But I kind of got excited about what the Titans could do with Cam Ward last year. Like, you overestimate what rookie quarterbacks could do even when you like them and you think they're good. Most of the time, they're not good. Like rookie quarterbacks, most of the time, you're not going to see a Jane Daniels type thing.

You're going to see, you know, more like a Cam Ward type of deal where they're one of the worst quarterbacks in the NFL, even though they flash at time. Yeah. Look at Drake May, look at Caleb Williams. Well, how much, do you think the Seahawks offensive line is talented and was, I think the question is going to be, can Kubiak do what he did in Seattle with the Raiders? But to your point, Mendoza is not going to be as advanced as Donald was like this year. Mendoza, I was going to say his high ceiling, but probably not. Donald's won the Super Bowl and was really a tulesy quarterback?

I think the question is, was the Seahawks offensive line talented? And then Ryan Grub came from college as the coordinator in 2024 and like really made him look worse. So when Kubiak took over, it looked like more of a project, but he had a lot working with him, or were they kind of bad? Because that's the problem with the Raiders O' line. They have a lot of skill talent with Bowers and Michael Mayer and Gentie, but the question is the Raiders' offensive line. Is it a liability?

How good can you make it? I mean, I do think their offensive line will be better next year. I think the scheme will help things. I think the Seahawks offense for years was bad, you know, and getting Grays-Able was a stabilizing force. Charles Cross was healthy finally. Abe Lucas was healthy. So there was three guys that kind of came together on the Seahawks offensive line and made it look a lot better.

There's a lot of moving parts there. And so like look, here's an example. Clint Kubiak, and this is probably not a good example because it's very different. But Clint Kubiak with Derek Carr early on in the season with the Saints last year, so in the 2024 season. Lighting it up. Like they remember how early on in the season we're like, holy shit, this is the best offense I've ever seen in my life. And then their quarterback got hurt, their car got hurt, and then it was like Rattler and whoever. I don't even remember they had a couple different guys play.

A lot of injuries on that scene. And the offense fell apart. And I'm not saying that Fernando Mendoza is going to be as bad as those guys were. But the quarterback does matter a lot, having like a veteran quarterback who's going to go in and kind of like run the show. It does matter a lot. And so I'm a little bit worried about getting over my skis with with Gentie and Bowers, even though I think they're both electric players. You know what I mean? I just worry the offense won't be as good as we think.

it is or what we're kind of like projecting it to be with this quarterback or with the quarterback and play caller changes so you're into sayquan because you love the quarterback for philly well sequan's done it a lot i know just wondering who you're more concerned about the raiders rookie quarterback or jalen hertz i'm just wondering probably the raiders rookie quarterback no i'm kidding i'm not trying to make funny i'm making fun of jailen hurts okay if the eagles if the eagles like like Kareen in crash this year. Are Eagles fans going to turn on Jalen Hertz? Oh, 100%.

Yeah. Siriani's going to fire him. It doesn't take long. Siriana's going to go to McKee. Just in general, it doesn't take long for people to turn on a player on their team. I think my stance with Philadelphia this year is I'll wait. I'm good. Well, here's my question for you guys.

I thought about this. I put Jalen Hertz ninth on my quarterback list because honestly for one reason, I think they're going to ban the tush push. And I'm curious, what happens? Do they just quarterback sneak and it's like the same thing and it's going to be funny when it's like, oh no, now we get 87% of these instead of 91% of them.

You know what I mean? Or is it going to actually affect Jalen Hertz's value? Because it's like when they get to the push, it's like, okay, like, now what? Well, yeah, right? We're going to have to go back, watch the tape and determine how many successful touchdown tush pushes were a result of the push and not just the sneak.

I think a lot of them were because of the push. You think he's also? good at finding the nooks and crannies. But yeah, it's funny how much is push. He is, but it's like a landslide. The way that they do it is truly like a landslide. You can't get under it and it just carries the entire fucking team with him. It's crazy.

That's the irony in a way they're going to ban the tush push and then the Eagles will block the play the same way. And then people are going to be like, oh, yeah, it was the rugby scrum at the center of it. It was both guards jumping before the ball is snapped. Yeah, they'll still fall starting every part and get lower than you. But they're just now Sequin can't push. Jalen hurts his ass. Yeah, it'll be interesting. Man, it is, I think hurts, another guy that's going to be very difficult, like you said,

Hyvitz to rank this year because, yeah, it does feel like things could get hairy for the, for the Eagles this year with Stalin gone, with, you know, the tush push gone. What is that going to look like? I think, I think there's a clear, I think that my takeaway from this, I don't know of you guys, my takeaway is like the top four to six, depending on account, are like incredible rich. maybe the top four. It's just so easy. It's so little mental energy

where it's like Jamar Chase and Pooka and Gibbs and Bijan. And then it's like McAfrey and J.S.N. and you know, Jonathan. And then it gets like, okay, personality. It's not even like, it's just more about, it says more about you in that how you would take them of like, do you want James Cook or Jonathan Taylor?

Where it says more about like, you know, bird in the hand, you know, two in the bush. And then it's like a Monra, Devon, A. Chan, CD, Derek. And then it's like, it's really kind of wide open. So there's a lot. It'll be fun. It'll be more to, it'll be a lot. It'll be a lot of fun to get it in this July and August.

Anything else on these guys before we get due? So, real quick, where do you want to pick? If you could, if you could raffle off like the number in the draft, what number do you want? Fourth feels like the easiest thing ever. Because simply put, you just sit there and you just let either Jamir Gibbs or Bijan Robinson or Jamar Chaser, or Pooka Nakua fall to you. Very easily convince yourself in one second that that would be the best player in the entire season. But then when you come back around, if it's a 10-team league, you might have Derek Henry or McBride or Brock Bowers

or Malik neighbors or fall to you. And if you're in a 12-team league, you're going to come back with a 20th pick. And you might, I mean, you literally could just get Pooka Nakuwa and George Pickens. You could get Pooka Nakuwa and Drake London. Like you're getting, it's pretty, fourth is amazing. I agree.

Right around there, four, five, six. Yeah. Okay. Sweet. Craig, did you have a random thing about sleep or I don't even know what you wanted to talk about? Yeah, I wrote down last night I was going to sleep in Los Angeles and it was pouring rain, dumping rain. And I don't think it's a hot take to say that people like sleeping to the sound of rain.

People put it on their phones when they have sleep machines. Yeah, that play rain sounds. But when it's actually raining out, I think that is even more comforting. Would you guys agree? Yeah, because it's real. Yeah. I wanted to make sure first that I'm not alone. that like when it's raining outside,

that feels nice to sleep. I would say for me, living in the Pacific Northwest, no, but I understand what you're coming from. Well, you two are literally, I think almost literally the most and least rainy parts of the entire country. When it's raining,

when it's raining here in the back of my mind, I'm like, God damn it, am I going to have to go check to make sure my basement's flooding? So that's not like the most relaxing thing. But yes, I get what you're saying. The sound is very nice. Well, I kind of wanted to just ask

like why you guys think that people think it's nice to go to sleep when it's raining. Why do you think that is? Is it just the sound? Or my theory was like, yes, DK., I'm sure you're going to go the same way. Like, historically, rain means like my crops are getting watered and the garden will prosper and the animals can drink and I'll have fresh water. Like, do you think that at all plays a factor in our brains? Yes. I don't even know farming's even that deep in, I don't even know if we've been doing that long enough for evolution. I think it's just like you're an animal and you want to seek shelter in the rain. being rained on isn't that big of a deal. Like we shower.

It's like being wet isn't a big deal now because you'll be fine. It's more like being rained on Minto's shelter. And so you're dry and it's raining and you're dry and you're supposed to, that's supposed to be a good feeling. I didn't think about that the shelter aspect of it. That's probably right too. That when it's raining outside your body instinctively

being indoors means that you feel safe. Yeah. Craig, this reminds me and I read this stat somewhere. I can't remember what exactly it is, but like human beings can smell the scent of rain. Oh yeah. like a very high level. Does rain smell or do we just smell the rain on like asphalt or something?

I don't know, but I am rain, I feel like rain. No, it is a smell. It is a smell. So I'm reading it right now. Humans can smell rain, a phenomenon called Petricor. And it's, it is a clean scent. When rain lands on ground, it's produced by a combination of soil bacteria, plant oils, some other things.

So like the smell of rain, the smell of water, hitting the earth is like we're like very attuned to that and it's nice yeah when you walk outside like and it's like a rainy day and you're going to go on a walk and it just went raining and you're like oh it smells so good out there is there's a stat here this and i don't know what if it's true or not but like human beings have this says we have a remarkably high sensitivity to the smell of geosman or geosman um which is arguably more sensitive than a shark's ability to smell blood What? So we are very finely tuned at smelling rain because everything you just said.

So I feel like evolutionarily speaking, it makes a ton of sense that the sound of rain is a good thing. It's like what we're attuned to based on however many years of evolution. Because yeah, the smell part is a big part of it too. So we're just like sniff around like someone cooked here, but it's like someone rained. Someone cooked. Yeah, I was like laying in bed last night. Liz was like basically asleep and I'm like asking her questions about like, do you think we feel safe when it rains?

She's like, can we just go to bed? And I'm like, I'm going to ask the day of the day. Dude, that's literally the meme where she's like, he's probably thinking about other women and create you guys just in the corner like, why does rain, why we love rain? We just go to sleep. I'm like, maybe we feel safe because we, you know, we think our crops are being watered.

That's got to be it. And she's like, go to bed. But it's the same thing of like, why. human beings like being near bodies of water. Like why we just want to go sit and stare at water? I think, yeah, I think that's abundance. I think it's, I don't think, I honestly think it's in your DNA. It's like the difference between 30,000 years of farming or 10,000, whatever it is and

like three million is like heart, like that's huge. And I think it's, if you're near water, you're near a lot of life. Like if you're looking at water, you're looking at, there's fish, there's, there are, the watering hole. It's like you have water to drink, but there's also other things that you can go and eat. I mean, civilization and cities were built around rivers on purpose. Like you needed water to thrive.

And I think that's so interesting that still to this day, like you want to have a house on a lake or by a river or near the ocean just so you can look at the water. We're fucking animals. That's why L.A. is so goddamn unsettling. It's because there's no rivers. It's just highways. The highways are the rivers.

The whole city's built around the freaking highways. Well, we have the fucking ocean. Yeah. And when was the last time you went to the ocean, Craig? Oh, last week. Okay, fine. But you know what I'm talking about. People on the east side go years without seeing the fucking ocean.

No, I know, but there's a difference between L.A. not having water in, like, Des Moines, Iowa, but yeah. Well, they have a river. I'm telling you, L.A. is a sewer that you call a river. The L.A. Rivers goes through fucking concrete. L.A. River is very important, but yeah. Stop shitting on L.A. All Italian job. The Italian job. It's important to the movies. We just go to bed. Anyway, we just go to bed. I really want a house on a river. Stop asking me questions. I want a house on a lake or a river so bad. Email us about smelling rain. I'm obsessed with that ideal. If you You're like a smell scientist. I want to hear from you or any.

A smell scientist. Anyone who can explain this more. An odorologist. I can't. That's amazing. Emails at Rear Fantasy Football at Gmail. Oh, yeah. Okay.

That's so good. We should rank smells in the off season. Whoa. Jesus. No, good ones. Oh, okay. We should do both. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I should do both. Really? All right. We asked for people who emails. We wanted your mom's sports takes. wanted sports takes that your mom has.

Say how to your mom for us. We can fucking. Say how to your mother for me? So you're a donkey, huh? What's that all about? Say, how do your mother for me? All right, this email is from Fiel.

Marky Mark. Phil. Phil? Phil Connors. Bing! I know you guys would love that. For breakfast, I had a bottle of oats. overnight and a cup of Starbucks caramel macchiato I was also wondering he said

Starbucks caramel macchiato ice espresso the ones in the grocery store oh yeah those are really tasty oh those little ones in the little the mark the Macchiato ice I would drink those every day if they didn't have like 500 calories in them they're like little milkshakes but man are they tasty you know what they mixed really well with tequila which I think was just something we told ourselves in college I don't know if that's actually true oh really but I've never done that Craig when I drink the Starbucks Machiatos, Skippy gives me a very dirty look. She's like judging. Yeah, it's like that is like you're drinking just pure sugar right now. It's for

children. It's like before we all realized Jamba Juice was a fine scam. It's just like 120 grams of sugar with a banana. So it tastes good though. We're like starting my day right with a rasmataz and it's like 93 grams of sugar and some raspberries in a bottle. Eat my cookie crisps with my Starbucks Macchiato ice espresso. Um, okay. Okay, Phil, Phil writes, my mom hates the peanut punch. Okay. That's a take. Okay.

That's fair. I get that. Wait, why? My mom hates when a running back is getting tackled and the tackler rips the ball out as the running back's going down or when they punch the ball out. I think the peanut punch, because it feels like it's not the running back's fault. Like, they still did everything right. You know, like they were holding it on tightly, even if it's in the right position,

you can still get peanut punch. I think that sucks. Is it dishonorable to punch it out? I think this is so funny. Phil writes, my mom's also not a fan of the dog piles or 50-50 balls where the same thing happens and the defender is allowed to rip the ball out. That's the theme is when someone has the ball, I think Phil's mom really doesn't like that the ball gets to be ripped out.

And quote, my mom says, quote, it's not fair that a bunch of guys can just take the ball from one guy. That's not fair. So we so far, with my mom and Phil's mom, I think moms just don't like turnovers. Ball security. And the punching, the punching of the ball is so violent. The punching of the ball is unfair.

Craig, what did your mom dislike again? She feels bad for the quarterback when there's interceptions. That's what launched all this. They throw picks. I do agree with Phil's mom a little bit. Like when the play feels half over and we're in that like no man's land of it's, the play that's not blown dead yet, but they're clearly not, nothing's going to happen. And guys are just ripping to get the ball out.

I don't like that as part of the game. One that I feel bad for is when they have good ball security, like you got to go high and tight. And if you're low, like Derek Kerry, sometimes like it deserves it. But when you're high and tight, but the new one is when you're falling, they're so good at the punching now that guys now going down, if you put any gap between the ball in your chest to brace yourself for the fall, defenders have become superhuman at punching in that like quarter second moment as you're bracing. And I feel like that happened more the last two seasons than the rest of my life combined. like just guys bracing them for the fall and that one I feel bad for yeah I agree

it's good take all right the next mom take here is from Victor Veebo Victor writes my breakfast was leftover buffalo chicken dip leftover rotel and leftover garlic bread bites used as the vessel for said dips What's Rotel?

What's Rotel? It's like a diced it's like a tomatoes and it's like it comes in a can I think it's for the Super Bowl party Oh yeah okay Buffalo dip kind of like peco tomatoes and garlic bread

It's like a lot of Super Bowl food. I think that he just woke up and ate. So Victor writes a bit of backstory. My mom came over here from Kenya in the 1990s. My mom knows very little about football. However, because we- That's the best, actually. These are the best takes. So my mom, sorry, Victor writes that because my mom, well, we grew up in Ohio, she has become an Ohio state fan, and especially Ohio State football fan. And my mom's take is that she just simply cannot watch a football game if the score is close. Yeah.

My mom prefers football to be absolute blowouts. Hell yeah. And even though. I support this take. So he says even though my mom, isn't that so funny? So Victor writes, even though my mom kind of understands the rules and never knows any of the players, watching a game stresses her out like she's watching 11 of her own children on television.

And if the score is too close around halftime, she will just get. up and leave. I understand this. I like to read the plot of movies before watching them. Really? Like how frequently? Like horror movies. Not all movies.

I don't like to stress of suspense. I think suspense as a device in a movie is terrible. But not all movies have suspense. Like what about a movie that's not suspenseful? You still want to spoil that? No, no, no. Not every. Did you read the Wikipedia for Transformers before you watch it?

No, no, no. I just mean mostly movie horror movies or thriller type movies where the idea is you're going to be stressed out this whole fucking movie. I don't want that. I don't like that. I don't like the sport of football. And, you know, not knowing what's going to happen before the game is on. But I understand where she's coming from. I mean, I do.

I do too. This is funny. So he keeps writing that my mom, so she'll leave at halftime, just won't watch it. And she said, she won't watch the rest of the game if the score is close until one. of us tells her the outcome. Like they just tell her the final score. And if the final score was not what she wanted, she just doesn't watch the highlights.

But if Ohio State blew the other team out, then she goes back and watches all the highlights. There's something really sweet about this. Yes. My dad kind of does something like this with Nebraska football. He's a long-suffering Nebraska fan. Obviously, Nebraska was a powerhouse in the 80s and 90s. And then sort of, they're kind of back.

The Nebraska football is better now than it was, like, in sort of the last era where it was literally the laughing stock of college football. But my dad, to alleviate stress, would record the game and then I think

figure out what happened and decide whether he wanted to watch it or not. I can understand that, but that's because he's a fan. Victor's mom just kind of can't take any game is really sweet.

That's actually true. That's such a mom way of... I love that. It's also funny because it's Ohio State, so it's like they play like Toledo. They're like, all right, 60 to nothing. It's fine.

I mean, it's a good team to be a fan of, you know? Sure. That's also probably had said to do it that is half these games. It's like playing mad at uneasy. And you're like, wow, this is easy. And then you watch a close game. You're like, what is this?

This one's from Chip. Chip. I love the way my boys are talking to you, Chip. I was so excited to get an email. I'm their elder. I love the way they're talking to you. Chip. Through Grandpa Chip's war medals off the bridge.

That is so funny to think about, too. Jesus. Throwing your grandpa's war medals. I love the way they're talking to you. All right. Chip. Chip. That's the name that needs.

We need more chips. How am I supposed to chip? With that kind of shit going on. So two pig fat bikers having sex off of 19 or off of 18. How am I supposed to chip? Chip rights. Big, big fat, naked bikers. It's not two big fat naked bikers.

How am I supposed to chip? Is the implication that the big fat, naked bikers are now getting into golf because of Happy Gilmore, but then pause to have sex? I think you're right. Chip rights. Chip rights, I had a yogurt and cinnamon raisin bagel for breakfast this morning. Cinnamon raisin bagels are underrated. A hundred percent. Love cinnamon raisin.

Some butter on that. Fucking good. Hyvitz, I can already tell. He's like New York bagel. High society. Cinnamon and raisin bagels is good. It's like pineapple on pizza, which done right is also good. What's wrong with cinnamon raisin bagels?

I didn't realize there was a thing with that. I thought it in, it's purism. You said it with your, you said it with your eyes. I did. I did. But I didn't judge. I just thought it.

Let's go off on New York, Craig. And then I let it go. I didn't say anything. West Coast. I've still not said anything. Concrete jungle. Godless. Do you think Craig didn't fucking judge you?

Godless. You said you Wikipedia movies? You think that he didn't. You see the face that he made. it was a lot more worse than what I just was the desired effect. I was giving it. I want to take back my slander about Des Moines, Iowa. I just picked a random city.

I know that they probably have a river. So I just wanted to. No one in Iowa forgot what you just said. I'm sure. I was just trying to think of it like Phoenix. I don't think has a river. LA man. Well, they're running out of water for sure.

I'll go with Phoenix who's not near the ocean and doesn't have a river. That's what I'm talking about. Definitely not enough water in Phoenix. Yeah. All the Iowa people were like classic LA guy picks on Iowa. Hey, I'll have the Des Moines River. Iowa. Okay. What was I do? Oh, right. I was reading Chip's email. Okay. This is funny. My mom hates all derogatory chance toward other teams. Also fair. Very mom. Very mom. Such mom. They're so mom core.

Chip says my mom thinks it's not in the spirit of the game. This started when I played high school basketball, but it all came to a head when my parents came with me to a college basketball game. And one of the opposing players, Aarbald a shot. And everyone, did. Air ball. Air ball. Oh, that's devastating. Dude, that's nothing. And his mom was horrified. I know it is nothing. And everyone's horrified. And so every time that player touched the ball for the rest of the game, the entire game, when he had the ball, everyone did air ball. People don't forget. Yeah. And so he said, my mom hated it and it like ruined her experience at the game. And my mom thinks there should only be positive chance for your team. And that, and she says at the very least,

chip writes that his mom doesn't want Chip participating in any. derogatory chance toward the other teams ever. Mothers just want their children to be comfortable. Good. They just want a good life for their children. Good young men. And all children. I will say college basketball,

I think fans can influence the game more in college basketball than any sport. A hundred percent. It is so small and intimate. You can be like eight feet from the guy on the court and Google what his mom's name is and yell the name at him as he's trying to shoot a three in a crucial part of the game. Dude, it's insane. You can really get in kids' heads. These kids are like 18, 19 years old.

You can. People, and also people have been in high school too far. Totally. High school, yeah, people go too far. There's bad stories. Like, but yeah, people can, it's bad. You know, underratedly, I don't think a lot of people know this who don't watch Mountain West or like kind of more like mid-major basketball. You know, quietly one of the, the strongest home court advantage of college basketball.

People think Cameron Indoor with Duke and all these big schools. Grand Canyon University They are fucking insane Do they play college of the Redwoods? They are in the Mountain West now This is the first year they're in the Mountain West And the school has a really good NIL fund Because they're a private school because of the church

They have a really good NIL fund They don't have football So a lot of money goes to basketball So their team is actually not that bad And all anyone on campus cares about is basketball They camp out overnight SDSU just started playing there dude Donovan Mitchell from the Cavalier

said the hardest place you ever played basketball was at Grand Canyon University. That is a ridiculous home court advantage. That's awesome. Why? It's just their fans are crazy? I don't know. They're not drinking.

They've got nothing else to do. They're all hopped up on something else. Focused. They'll hop up on that old religion. The West issue is played there like three times. It's amazing. All three times. It's crazy.

It's incredible how well the fans can coordinate when everybody's sober. This reminds me of, I saw a clip yesterday, Craig. I know it's an old clip, but somebody was asking Yokic. He's like, did the, did the booze at so-and-so stadium affect you? And he goes, brother, I'm from Serbia. And then it just like cuts to the crowds in Serbia with like fucking fireworks and stuff. Like there, it's like like flags in the crowd waving back before everyone's on their feet. It looks like a, you know, soccer hooligan style thing. And they got freaking flares in their hand waving around. It's like,

man, that would be intimidating. Uh, what's, What's the pod friendly, funniest thing that you heard someone yell at an SDSU game or in high school or whatever. If you're on the court, pod friendly. I can think of the worst. It's pod friendly, but it's the worst one. But it's just sad. It was mean. It was too far.

It was just. It was about you? No, no, no, no. It was a game was at. We had the section final. And it was like there were two schools, you know, like two games in the semis or something. And the other game, I didn't know the people. It was like a different high school.

But I remember when I was playing high school basketball, the art crowd, we are like, cheering section. They had t-shirts and everything. They called them the X-Men and they were just really rowdy and awesome every game. But I do remember one game, this guy, they just started chanting ass sweat at him because he was like his shorts were just like ass sweat, ass sweat, like the whole game. That's good clean family fun. Email us for your fantasy football at Gmail stories like that. The chance like that ass sweat. I don't want to know the horrible stories. When you start finding information about like the guy's sister, his mom, that's, that's when. stuff. Thank God. I escaped all that shit because we were the internet era. I've seen a horrible

things. I just like, yes, but the things they can learn about this players do this too. Like any all these guys like defensive backs or whatever looking up the quarterback's girlfriend and DMing or on Instagram and like that's just like all the players are doing. I mean, I think I can't remember it was Grand Canyon or a different I like they'll find out like the coach's phone number and they'll call him like all night so he can't sleep shit like that. It's dude that is. Miami did that to Brian Bosworth before the Orange Bowl like 40 years ago. What? The Miami players before they played the Orange Bowl,

this is in the 30 for 30. They called Brian Bosworth's hotel room and they kept pranking him all night before the game. Didn't MJ think he got poisoned by the pizza in Utah? Yes. I, that story is, he literally, I mean, that story seems pretty legit. He's like, six guys showed up with a pizza. He's like, when the fuck does that happen? And then I suddenly had food poisoning.

If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying, right? Yeah. Okay. Email us more mom takes and email is chance that they did. at high school or college and pod friendly. I don't, you want, you want the negative ones? Yeah. As sweat.

Yeah, in the ass wet vein. Okay. One more here on frame mogging. Sure. This is from Rylan. Ryland, Arbon. 18 years old, I'm a college freshman, but I've been listening to guys since I was 14, which is a little terrifying to think about.

Rylan says, I've never emailed anyone from a podcast, but fuck it. whatever. Love when that's, I love that start. This might be his first email. So funny. Yeah, he's like, what is this? When I heard about you. I tried to Snapchat you, but I couldn't. We should get a Snapchat. Actually, we shouldn't make that. Rylan says, when I heard about your clavicular problem, I knew this was my moment to shine. I have a childhood friend named William that I recently hung out with. His name is William. William. William, Willie's obsessed with mocking, mewing, and probably gooning. And as we were hanging out, my 16 year old brother and William started, they bonded over gooning,

mocking clavicular, which led them hanging out. And now it's at the point whenever my brother wants to do something is to put either the word gooning, magging, or other brain rot into the phrases. So for example, I picked him up from soccer the other day. My brother gets in the car and he says, coach and I goon together, I'll

practice low peak, but he kind of mogged me. Low peak. So Rylan writes, my generation is cooked. The world is not going to survive till the turn of the century, but fuck it, we ball. I do like the nihilism there.

Fuck it, we ball is. Fuck it, we ball. That's great. Also, it's terrifying. I like that. His name is William. Doesn't seem like there's a lot of William, 16-year-old Williams walking around.

It's kind of one of the reasons I like Harold Finn in the Browns. Harold. Harold. 21. He's named Harold. Harold. Alvin. Harold, Alvin, William.

I think it's cool when old names come back. Like, it just takes one. Yeah. It's so true. Agnes and then it's so true. I feel like women names, women old in time names are definitely making a comeback. What are, what are the oldest? Well, Harold Vannon.

I'm like, the only Harold is up there. The only heralds I know are 75-year-old Jewish men. Yeah. And now Harold Vannon. What's the oldest name you can think of? Gertrude. Yeah, Gertrude for a woman for sure. Dorothy.

Dorothy. Beverly? No, I knew Beverly. You know some Beverly's? Really? I knew a Beverly in high school, yeah. Oh, wow. I knew multiple actually come to think of it.

I don't think I've ever met a Beverly that's not over 60. Louisa? I know a Louisa. Under 50. Under 50. That means she's in her 40s. Yes. Wish I'd said that.

What about Dot? Oh, dude. Watching Madman, dude, watching Madman, the names are so funny. You know what the oldest one is? It's Pete talking to his wife, he's like, oh, kitty. Come on, kitty. And it's like just...

Isn't Dot short for Dorothy? Doddy is Dorothy, but call them Doddy. Doddy, Kitty. All the, Betty, all the names in Madman are just like, oh my God, these are literally my name. Betty's a good one. Betty, Doddy, and Kitty. You don't see a lot of Betty's.

Peggy? Peggy. Peggy, I didn't even realize was short for Margaret where I don't know how we got there. Damn, I don't think I knew that. That's like how Ted is short for Edward. Ted is short for Theodore.

Also Edward. Oh, I didn't know what's short for Edward. Yeah, sometimes. It's weird. It doesn't make any sense. My dad goes by Ted, but his name is... He's a Theodore. I think Theodore is pretty old in time.

Theodore... Yeah. Bernard. Yeah. Westworld had Bernard But I'm trying to think of a I don't know any Bernie is great

Yeah I don't know any Bernie's I kind of like Bernard Walter Walt That's a good one Bonnie What about Bonnie Stanley Bonnie oh Bonnie yeah

I don't know any bonnies Some of these will come back I think Walt Because Bonnie is short for like Benita You don't see a lot of Benitas Is it? Huh Bernadette

Burnadette? Is that the girl's name in Dodgeball who test positive for the beaver tranquilizer? There's also a Bernadette in Bernice. Oh yeah, it's Bernice. There's a Bernadette in Big Bang theory.

Email us if you have one of those names and you're like under 20. My two grandma's names are Bonnie and Beverly. Yeah. Dolly. My grandma's names were Albina and Patricia. Patricia, I think, still going.

Yeah. more than more than the others okay uh i have an unbelievable tangent i want to go with you guys but we've all offseason so i'll save it all right well that's a good good little tease it's it's it's pretty incredible uh okay yeah we're be so we have another episode coming this week we'll be at the NFL combine next week by the time you're listening to this and yeah stick with us all draft season and the whole year thank you dk thank you k thank you k thank you awesome thank you Carlos, thank you, Abu,

thank you everyone for listening. Thank you ever for emailing. Thank you for everyone who's frame, mocked us. Thank you, Lord. Lord.

Thank you, Lotto. Okay. Have you done Lotto? I mean, almost 100%. I feel like you did Lotto after my wedding.

No, I don't know anything about Lotto. If I did Lotto, it was because I was directed to do that by someone. Well, you still did it. How did you come up with Lotto now?

Because I started listening to the fucking song that sounds like fantasy. Yeah, so that's how I know you've done it before. No, I, I, well, I might have done it before, but it wasn't because I know anything about Lotto. It's because I was, as you guys told me to say Lotto. We wanted fantasy, Mariah Carey, she sampled Tom, Tom, and then Lotto. Yeah, yeah, so shout out Lotto. Do you guys ever buy lottery tickets? When I lived in New York, my buddy Sam and I would buy lot of tickets every, every week.

When it hits to a billion, I buy tickets. I buy a lot of tickets. Might as well. Fuck it. We would buy them and just agree like we're splitting this no matter what. And every we would just like each buy them. Yeah. And I won.

I won 300 million dollars. You're just doing this for the love of the game. And we appreciate that, Craig. What's the point of winning the lottery if you can't tell anybody? It's all the point. I mean, come on. The things you can buy maybe? I don't know.

I had a I had an Uber driver once. his brother had won the lottery and he's like, here's what to do if you ever, because the lottery is like $2 billion. So it came up and then he was like, my brother won the lottery. Who, it didn't go well. And then he just talked about,

if you guys ever win the lottery, and he just started giving us all this advice. Yeah. Don't tell anyone is actually the right move. Probably. Yeah. That's what I did. Yeah.

Good job. Well, you're telling people now, but you already spent all the money, so. I just spent it all in fantasy. I put it all on heads. Put it on tails and lost Super Bowl. Happens to the best of us. Goodbye everyone.