The Ringer NFL Show - Week 1 Recap: Bills-Ravens Shocker, Rodgers’s Revenge, Tua Turntheballova, and Lions Panic

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

Week 1 Recap: Bills-Ravens Shocker, Rodgers’s Steelers, Tua Turntheballova, and Lions Panic The guys recap all of the NFL Week 1 action by going through categories such as Winners and Losers, the Oppenheimer Award, Intrusive Thoughts, and so much more. (0:00) Intro (1:25) ‘Sunday Night Football’: Bills-Ravens (16:39) Winners and Losers (32:37) The Oppenheimer Award (44:06) It’s So Over. We’re So Back. (56:56) Fart or Shart (59:10) Intrusive Thoughts (01:06:17) Play of the Day (01:09:56) The WORST Play of the Day (01:12:50) Stadium Pulse of the Week (01:17:57) The Arthur Smith/Shawn Hochuli Award (01:25:26) The Lucille Bluth Award (01:26:32) Two TEs and a Lie (01:28:07 ) Fantasy Burn Book Check out our 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here!  Email us! [e-mail] The all-new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Rigger Fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hypertz, and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck. And Sunday Night Football is over. Ravens Bill's absolutely epic game. We are going to go through... All time. That was actually an all time. We're going through everything that happened.

On Sunday night, we're going through winners. We're going through winners. I said that already. Losers also, in addition to winners. Winners. Winners. We're not talking about a single loser today. Certified winners only.

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D.K., I actually think that was the game of the year. Bill's Ravens just finished. I actually think that was the best game that we'll see the entire year. So Bill's 41, Ravens 40. The Ravens had a 40 to 25 lead at one point late or like mid early fourth quarter I guess. I think 11 minutes left. Eric Henry ran in a 30 yard touchdown to go up by 15. Absolutely brutal meltdown by the Ravens.

This game reminded me of that Rams Chiefs game from a few years ago where everybody got all jacked up. It kind of felt like it ushered in a new era of football. But yeah, there's two great quarterbacks. Just absolutely dueling. It was super fun. This sucks. This is like when your two sons are playing against one. I'm like, ah, I feel so bad for Lamar, but I love Josh and the bills are awesome.

And this is really cool, but God, Lamar and keeps losing. I feel terrible. The Raven scored 40 points in week one and lost. I wish I had that stat in front of me. That never happens. Dude, that never happens. For my buddy, Dante, a couple of weeks farming. 40, teams with 40 plus points and 235 rushing yards.

I know that's kind of specific, but that's what they had. We're 277 and zero before today. Now they're 277 and 1. Wait, you said that's 40 points, 235 rushing yards were 277 and 0. This score was a score agami. There's never been a 4140 NFL game before.

Oh my God. So this was an all-time game. Honestly, there was so much to talk about before the collapse, but we have to start with the collapse, which is... I feel like, was it a collapse? Derek Henry fumbled and then they went three and out. And it's like, I guess that's a collapse.

It was a two-score game. It is, you know. It is a collapse. And here is why. the Ravens should have beaten the bills in this stadium at the end of last season. Yeah. And they didn't because Mark Hage has dropped the ball. It's their worst loss since the last time late.

They played the bills. Since their previous game. Since their last game. Which they went into this game talking about how important it was to avenge that loss. They went and kicked the shit out of the bills for like 56 minutes. And then they gave up 16 points in the final four minutes. And I can't even imagine. And guess what?

the season before that, the Ravens also collapsed because the Ravens also should have beaten the Chiefs in the AMC Championship game that year and then went into week one last season and they lost to the Chiefs in week one last year. Was that the Isaiah likely Toot Touch game? That was the Toe Touch game. Yeah, God, the Ravens.

This is two straight game, two straight years. The Ravens last playoff loss. They then played that team in week one and then had their hearts ripped out. This one might be worse. I mean, I just, that's that really sums it up because that matches the eye test. There's no way they should have lost this game. Teams never lose when you.

I just got to go through the, there's so many things about this. And I hate, again, the bills were going to get to the magic of it, but I do just want to say, Zay Flowers had 140 yards. He didn't play in that game in the playoffs. Lamar Jack, Derek Henry averaged almost 10 yards of carry. This was unbelievable. But, yeah, I mean, the bills. I mean, Josh Allen threw.

for, I mean, Josh Allen completed 33 of 46 passes, threw for 394 yards and two touchdowns. Not to mention Josh Allen also had 30 yards, 30 yards, and two rushing touchdowns. You could go on, Keon Coleman, 112 yards, eight catches, two-point conversion, probably the best game of his entire career. You can go on and on and on,

but I think the thing that's probably going to stick with me the most in this game. I don't think you did have the two-point conversion. Well, there were four. I think he caught one and then dropped the other one, right? Am I wrong? There's so many. And then they didn't, he had the one that he caught, but he went out of bounds, they negated it.

And then he had the one at the end of the game, which he didn't catch. Did he get another one? There was, didn't they get one of four? I can't even keep track. It was crazy. You know what's crazy is if the most recent touchdown, the bill scored, if they got the two-point conversion, they might lose this game. A hundred percent.

If they had, Ravens had actually not tackled Kearn Coleman on that last play, and then they went in, the Ravens would have gotten the ball back, and maybe they could have gone down in one. Two-point conversion that could have tied the game. If they get that, the Ravens probably just march down the field, eat the clock and win the game. You're probably right. This was an all-timer, but, D.K., I'm curiously that Josh Allen,

at the end of the game, they interviewed him and they were just like, they basically asked him what he was thinking. He was like, to the fans who left this game, that's totally okay. But next time, please have some faith. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, I don't know, Dek, where is Josh Allen for you right now in just terms of genuinely, like, magical. athletes.

D.K., hold on. Before you answer that. Yeah, fuck my question. What do you think? No, no. But Hyvids brought up a good point before that. It's actually the opposite. You set up a two-pronged situation and I want to touch on the first part. Please.

D.K. As a father of a, how old is Calvin? Six. Yeah. It's Sunday night. You're at this game. Let's say you are a Bills fan. You got school the next day.

They're down 15. It's almost midnight. You haven't stopped the Ravens yet? Yeah. You're like, man. I got to take him to school tomorrow. If I stay for this game, it's going to take me an hour to get out of here. Do you respect the fans that left?

I don't hate them. I don't like disrespect them. I don't think I would have left because I've seen Josh Allen do this shit before. You know what I mean? Like we do say we categorize this and we're sort of like saying it was a meltdown, but it was a two-score game. It was 15 points. It's not like the most ridiculous thing.

It was just a devastating loss. Teams in that situation were, as a wise man once told me, 277. None of those teams were playing Josh Allen is the key thing here. Josh Allen to answer your question, hyphen, is I think he has turned in. It's so ironic because of what he was coming out of college and everyone was, you know, just not a believer. And even in his first year or two, he was really wildly just inaccurate and all this stuff. And then he was the one of one who got that all cleaned up and figured it out.

I would say Josh Allen now is the prototype quarterback. Size, arm strength, escapeability, efficiency. actually one of the most efficient quarterbacks last year, too, in addition to what he does and changes the math and the red zone, all that stuff. I don't think, I, you could probably say Lamar, and actually, I actually want to just steal a tweet from Scott Barrett, our buddy, who said there may not be another quarterback like Josh Allen for 20 years. We may never see a Lamar Jackson again. And this might have been probably was the best game we'll watch all year, which I think that just sums it up. It's like, if I would say the two top top, three top quarterbacks,

obviously, well, there's four if you had Count Burrell, but Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Lamar. And we saw two of these guys tonight in just like a back and forth game. I don't know, man. It's just like, yeah, it's so fun to watch these guys play. It's so crazy because, like, the fact that neither of these guys have ever been in a Super Bowl

is so weird, honestly. The fact that it's always Mahomes, it's like, you know, remember seeing those, like, videos where it's like, it shows like our solar system. You're like, wow, that's really big. And then it like zooms out. And it's like actually it's one of a zillion galaxies.

And you're like, wow, that's really big. That's like Lamar and Josh Allen. And then it zooms out again. And it's Patrick Mahomes who just beats either of them whenever they play. Totally. As soon as one of these guys went to Super Bowl, though, and that's the thing is maybe other people do. I don't look at Joshua Lamar through the lens of,

well, they've never won one. I'm like, clearly these are so. They've already done some of the best things I've ever seen in a football field. I look at it like Janus, where I'm like, as soon as Janus won, Everyone just was like, yeah, I just can appreciate this person now or Yokic or something. Yeah, yeah. And it's, I don't know.

It's, you don't, you didn't actually have to wait for Yokch to go and win a title to just appreciate Yokch. Like, it wasn't like they had crazy failures in the playoffs. Maybe Lamar's had more challenges than Josh. But I'm like, since it's pretty incredible things from these guys. Like, I think if you, I would not let the lack of a Super Bowl appearance get in the way of just this is, we are in an absolutely incredible age of quarterbacking. Like we had a little stop gap between Brady, Breeze, Eli, Rothesberger, Rivers, those guys aging out and a little bit of an in-between. But I'm like, what we are seeing right now, we are in an absolute golden era. We are going to look back the same way you had, you know, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, like the 80s.

Like this is an unbelievable point. Guess what? All these guys are in their prime. Like Josh Allen Lamar, this, we might look at this game as maybe the midpoint of like their careers of just some of the best quarterbacking I have ever seen. Josh just going over and space jamming in that the two point can I can't even get track of what was the touchdown. No, it's the touchdown where they got to the one yard line. They went at the two. He did the jump.

They just jumped over. I just, I don't know. He is this was an, I just, I don't, I'm literally speechless. Want to know something wild. The craziest thing about this game is the fucking Ravens almost blocked that kick at the end. They were so close to. They got through the line. So one or two guys got through the line and basically just missed when the ball went 100%.

I'm like, oh my God. Sliding doors. That really would have made it one of the craziest regular season games of all time. And things were not even talking about because the ending was so amazing. Derek Henry's stiff arming and Netherbill's cornerback into oblivion after he already did the Josh Norman thing from years ago. That was the meme. The Wilhelm scream. Yeah, the Wilhomes.

DeAndre Hopkins having what I thought was like maybe the best player. all day. We're at the one-handed catch into the end zone. Oh, yeah. And my takeaway from this game before this loss was actually that Lamar and Derek Henry are the best backfield in the history of the NFL. And we somehow don't talk about this enough that like this is the craziest. It's like a thought experiment. What if Lamar Jackson could run a read option with Derek Henry? That'd be crazy. And then they play where Lamar runs for 30 yards on the scramble. We ran 20 yards backwards. And then ran 50 to gain 30. And then the next play Derek Henry got 30. I'm like, I can't please these guys play together.

Dude, Graham Barfield tweeted this earlier the day. I don't know if it's still exactly right, but Derek Henry in his time with the Ravens is averaging more yards per carry than Price Young is averaging yards per pass. So that's something. And also, it needs to be said what Josh Allen is doing with his surrounding cast. Like not that Khalil Shakir and Josh Palmer and Keon Coleman and Duncan Kit are scrubs or anything like that, but man, Like, this guy is really doing some things with a pretty mediocre crew. And I mean, Stefan Diggs is very good. But the last two seasons now, what we saw last year and now what he's doing this year,

he has gone up a level and he lost his best wide receiver. Just I guess like Mahomes and Tyreek for a little bit there. But, man. Perfect example of it's very similar to Mahomes, Tyreek thing where obviously the chiefs get rid of Tyree kill in a weird situation because Christian Kirk got a raise and Tyree killed now suddenly wanted more money. And the chiefs were like, well, we can't pay that. I guess we'll take picks.

And then the Chiefs went and won two Super Bowls without Tyree Kill. Similarly, the Bills got rid of Diggs. The difference is the Chief's offense without Tyree Kiel sucked. The defense got better. And the Chiefs learned to eke out wins without Tyreek and kind of just ugly, but made all these wins happen at the end. The Bill's offense genuinely is like better and has seemed better in some ways. That's the fun things.

There's a meanness. There's a running element. Obviously tonight the Bill's offense was. stagnant for portions and then was extremely not stagnant. But Josh as a player seems to have gone up a level without digs. And it's funny because it's a giant exclamation point on why he was MVP is for exactly what he said. Derek Kennedy makes Lamar's life easier except for the fumble.

And then Josh is coming out and doing this. But it's so crazy. I mean, all these things that don't matter now, like the bill's defensive tackles and everything. But it's funny because I guess in a nutshell, watching this game, I take away is the Ravens are like kind of clearly a better team. The Ravens are a better team. They're better organized.

The running game are able to dominate. Their defense is probably better. Also, their defense was getting dinged up throughout the entire game. Yes. And yeah, Kyle Hamilton went in and out. Well, both, I guess both secondary is kind of, there was attrition. But I do think at this point, you almost have to think that mentally the Ravens are always going to have the stuff in the back of their mind until they make a Super Bowl.

And the bill, like, they just will. Like, the Ravens are always going to be in the back of their mind. And maybe, I don't know, something. don't know what it is with the scene. It's a human nature, man, when the big moments start happening and then you're just thinking, oh, God, I don't want to fuck it up again. Yeah. So anyway, that was, I know I'm a hyperbolic sometimes, but that's the most incredible game I've

seen it sometimes. Do you guys have any other thoughts on that? During this game, I was just like, for three quarters of it, I was like, well, that was stupid that I picked Josh Allen to win the MVP and the bills to win the Super Bowl. And then now I'm like, hell yeah, I pick Josh Allen to win the MVP and the bills to win the Super Bowl. read some stats. I don't know if we've done that. Josh Allen, 394 passing yards, two touchdowns. He also ran for 30 yards

and two more touchdowns. Lamar threw for 200, through for two touchdowns, ran for 70 in a touchdown. Derek Henry, 165 yards, two touchdowns. So this was on this day, this game was the fantasy savior. This whole week was a disaster as all week ones have been. You know, when you

look at the projections in your Yahoo app, it's like red or green if your team's going to over, underperform. Everyone's always read week one, except if you went into this game, I went into this game down 50 with Lamar and Derek Henry on my team. I was like, all right, I have a decent shot. I like won by half time. It was unbelievable. And it just goes to show. This is what we say. Draft the best players on the best teams and you always have a fighting chance, just like these teams always have a fighting chance if you have a guy like Josh Allen. Yeah. Next year, when we do the Memento tattoos

at the end of the season, my first one is going to be listened to the tattoos because that was the first thing we had was take the players from the good teams. It's not just fun. It's because they're sick. But yeah, DK. Any party thoughts on this game? It was honestly magical. I feel spoiled by that.

Yeah, I don't know. I just want to like make sure to center myself and continually remind myself that I'm watching greatness every time like the Ravens play every time the Bills play. And the Bengals, I mean, but Joe Burrow wasn't very good today. But just watching these quarterbacks. It's like a blessing. I'm happy that Mark Angers didn't do anything wrong, though. Seriously? Mark Angie's is fumbled.

Do you think one percent of him is like, thank God. Yes. Oh, yeah. Now finally people are off my back. See, Derek Henry fumbles too. Oh, God. Yes, I do think he thinks that deep doubt it. The deepest recesses of Mark Andrews.

It's like, well, it's fine. We'll make the playoffs. It's fine. Almost relieved. Yes. Oh my God. Okay, so let's get to rest of the categories here. Other than Bill's Ravens, yeah,

winners and losers of the day. Craig, I'm just going to give you the floor. Craig's been holding this back for the last several hours here. We've had Craig on a leash. Oh, my God. If you're listening, Craig just put on our Steelers out. Yeah, baby. Rogers is back.

The Steelers are back. Fuck the Jets. Fuck the Jets. the stupid Jets. Can we get Sean on? We gotta get Sean on. Sean and I were texting. I would send eye emojis when we scored

and then he would send two eye emojis when the Jets would score. And I was on pins and needles hoping that the Steelers would eke out this game. This game fucking rocked. It did, really. Before the bills, I look ridiculous in this hat.

Before the bills... The thing you're getting all bottom was afraid. It's funny. It's like a little kid wearing a hat. I look like the... When you have the point five lens on the iPhone and you just look like all nose. That's me right now. But

until Sunday night football, Steelers Jets was the game of the day. Everything else sucked. The 34-31 Steelers this game rocked. The narratives were great too because they weren't really that real or deeply entrenched, right? It was like this

revenge game that was like kind of fake. It's not like these were these teams. Tell Aaron Rogers it was fake. Not to my boy Aaron. Four touchdowns. I don't know. Did you see his quote? at the end of the game, Craig? Yeah. They were like, I can't remember what he said. Maybe it was like, did it give you a pleasure to do that to Aaron Glenn?

I watched it four times. I'll tell you exactly what this thing. The reporter asked, did this feel extra good after Aaron Glenn said to your face that you were not the right fit for the franchise? He goes, that is exactly what happened. And yeah, I was happy to beat everybody associated with the Jets. That was a great a. Just a little bit, kind of like Aaron Rogers today. That was a great game. He obviously he had four, he had four touchdown passes, I think, on. There was at one point where he had four touchdowns on 17 attempts or something like that. Yeah, he completed 22 or 30 passes, 2244 yards and four touchdowns, averaged eight yards a pass. And honestly, looked better than that. I mean, like the nature of them, they were all just really good play calls.

And it's funny. Their run game wasn't doing shit either. There's a few things that Rogers did well that I will, that I appreciate more than I expected because the Steelers have not had a quarterback that basically listened to their offensive coordinator and was good at the same time since Prime Ben Rothesburg, which is like 10 years ago. It's either been park and bark old Ben Rathesberger standing in shotgun or it's been shitty quarterbacks. What Aaron Rogers did this year in this game that he did not do on the Jets last year was take the ball under center and run play action and turn his back to the defense.

And that is him working with Arthur Smith. And honestly, you have to give that up to the coaching and to Aaron Rogers because Robert Sala and whatever was going on with the Jets last year did not convince him to do that. And Arthur Smith and Mike Tomlin did. And I thought it made a huge difference. And a lot of the biggest plays of the day came from Aaron Rogers under center or Aaron Rogers turning his back to the defense and running play action. He completed six of eight play action pass for 75 yards and three touchdowns,

which is tied for the most touchdowns on play action passes in a game for Aaron Rogers since 2016. So he clearly made a concerted effort to play differently. and he even said that in the post-game presser. He was like a lot of people were talking about how I couldn't fit in this system and I couldn't work with Arthur Smith and none of this works. Aaron, thank you for listening to the show. He hears a lot of stuff. Sure, all these athletes do.

He reads it all. This was great. I'm all out of fluids. Jesus. Those happy tissues are sad tissues. I will say the only thing that I want to put a pin in, just if it comes up later is that the same issue the Steelers had is the inability to run, the same thing the Jets had last in yards, last and carries last year.

Steelers obviously have not been able to run as much as they want. Having said that, you look at just frankly, sometimes an underrated said, how many people caught a ball in this game? I mean, D.K. Metcalfe at four catches. Calvin Austin had four catches. Pat Fryermuth at three. Ben Scorana got a touchdown. Jalen Warren, Jonathan Smith, Ken Gainwell.

Like, Aaron Rogers spread the ball around in a sense that reminded me of when he was with the Packers and winning MVP. P's of sometimes him or Drew Brees would be like those little stats of completed nine passes to nine different people. That was always the Drew Brees special. Yeah. And I think that that was something where I think actually Rogers and Arthur Smith actually have a lot in common is their desire to throw it to random people all the time on

random plays and they don't really care. And so I, yeah, I'm not, this was crazy impressive on the Steelers part. But at the same time, the whole game swung because. the Jets fumbled a kick return. And honestly, if they had not fumbled the kick, the Steelers scored, Jets fumbled to kick return, and then Steelers scored like two plays.

So in a minute, the Steelers got 14 points. The Jets might have won this game. And I will say, even in defeat, I don't necessarily believe in moral victories, but the Jets did look... You're not giving this to Rogers. I mean, Josh Allen would have lost

if Derek Henry didn't fumble, but we're saying Josh is the goat. I'm not, no, I'm saying, I don't believe in World Victory. I'm saying, like, the Steelers won. Like, the Steelers won the game. I'm just saying. He's getting so defensive. Jesus, fair.

Right. You know, we're like, well, they would have lost if he didn't fumble the ball. I'm like, well, that's football. No, I was trying to transition. I think he was the Jets played well. Yeah, he was making a segue to my winner, which was Justin Fields. I think Justin Fields, well, basically Justin Fields, Bruce Hall and the whole Jets offense was so much better than I expected in pretty much every way. They were great.

First of all, Justin Fields, I think, had the best game of his career. 100%. 16 to 22, 218 yards past touchdown. He also added two touchdowns and 48 yards on the ground. Yeah. 10 designed runs. So they were utilizing him and using his feet

to make things happen in the run game. Justin Fields, 29.5 fantasy points. The idea that he was the fantasy sleeper of the year is really paying or is really happening

so far, at least obviously after one game. But I think the other thing that was really interesting and cool to me was Justin Fields last year was kind of all over the place, his accuracy.

He was just slow getting the ball out. He was incredibly accurate in this game, passing the ball. down the field. I saw this from Jacob Gibbs. Early charting has Justin Fields with 0% off target rate. And a lot of that was all down.

Like a huge chunk of his throws were 10 plus yards down the field. They were pushing it down the field. He was fantastic. The running game in general was great. And it looked like they simplified the game in a really nice way where it was basically run, run, run, play action pass. And because of the success of the run game, it really allowed fields to kind of have these nice open targets to hit.

But he put the ball right on the money. Like the Garrett Wilson touchdown was right on the money. he really didn't make a bad play. I mean, I guess the last play of the game, some people think he showed a hell onto the ball, but it was still a great throw to Garrett Wilson. There were moments in the game where I was like, I honestly, he felt like Lamar Jackson in moments.

I was like, I don't know how you stop him. It feels the athleticism popped so much, even on the ball where a play where he reached the end zone and didn't get it. He just was, he's so big. He's so strong. He's so athletic. Frankly, a thing that when scouts talk about sounds weird,

his hands size. but like the ability of what he's able to do with like reaching the ball pulling it back like he was doing spins while holding under the ball like i've never seen quarter i don't know i just i was so blown away by how fucking big and fast he is where sometimes i i know i think i said this off season so many times that he has the second most rushing arts by quarterback in the history of the NFL where i was like am i saying this too much i'm like no this has always been there and i i got it i know it's one game you don't want to overreact to one game having said that if you'd think there's a team that would give justin fields a good matchup in week one. It's the team that just saw him play last year. He's on their team. You'd think they'd have a good game playing for him. I mean, the Jets, at least, it's a different staff. It's the same staff that just saw just in fields.

And so, but to your guys' point, I agree with the accuracy. I forget the exact moment, but he had one play. I think with fields, it was a mix of accuracy and processing, decision-making was the question with him. And it wasn't just the beginning with the script, but there were moments where, I don't know, there's something that happens sometimes with quarterbacks that resuscitate the career is 26-ish years old, where they just on third down to just start realizing with urgency that they kind of get back, like, oh, shit, I got to do this right now and they just rip a pass

sometimes over a hash marker over. And he had a couple of those in this game where I was like, okay, maybe the clock, you saw this with Baker Mayfield and the bucks. Like, that's really what happening is like the recognition of urgency of like, I have to make this throw right now in this moment. And that combined with the ability to extend the place. I don't know. I thought he was, frankly, I thought that he was going to suck in real life and be a. incredible rushing cheat code and fantasy. It suddenly feels a little more real that Fields might actually be a good quarterback.

It's like Godfather Part 3 like me. It's like every time I think I'm out, pull me back in. He could still suck. But if he was going to be good, it would look like this. That's all. And I wanted to also just give a quick shout out to Breece Hall, who looked awesome.

He had juice again in this game. Because I think last year was very true, and Craig was the first to point this out, that he just did not seem to have the juice that he had the previous year coming off of an injury. And he played hurt for most of the season. But, man, he was really shifty in this game. He had 90 yards after contact. And he, I mean, he didn't, it was like a massive game, but he had 100 yards, 107 yards rushing, plus 38 yards receiving. And Braylon Allen, I mean, six carries for nine yards and touchdown.

So like that preseason narrative, at least in one game. game completely went back to Brice. So that was pretty cool to see for Brise. Bruce looked off. You're right, D.K. And as quickly as I noticed last year in the first game that he had nothing, I noticed this year, I was like, oh, he looks like, he looks different. He just had the

he just proved that I guess he was injured. He had the explosiveness. Yeah. It just proves that I guess he was injured last year and playing through it the entire year because he looked like a completely different guy today. Do you think, I think for fantasy next year, we should just push for subpoena power on HIPAA. We should just, instead of letting players get medical privacy, we should actually get to

like the, what's the freedom of information? Yeah, we should get the FOIA there. The FOIA, these head, like, yeah, the head. We're going to FOIA-Bress Hall. Can I read you two more Steelers stats? Then we can move on, I promise. Please. Okay.

So the Steelers scored a touchdown on the opening drive today, which in week one is the first time the Steelers have done that since 2008. Jesus. What were you doing in 2008, Craig? Oh, I was. He was out of fluids. That's what he was doing in 2008. I was entering high school.

So I was 5-2-110 pounds. Also, they didn't have a single opening drive touchdown last year. Wow. And then Aaron Rogers today, 136.7 pass-a-rating, which is the highest pass-a-rating as Steelers quarterback has had since week 10 of 2018. I got to tell you, I'm going to just pull something out. I said it in the Take Purge.

But, well, it's hard after watching the Bill's Raymond's game, but I got to tell you, if the Steelers... No, I'm going to say, Brett, there's just crazy parallels between Roger's career in Brett Farts. Like really weird. Like just the 15 exactly years of Green Bay and then being traded to the Jets and then like that looking good

and then being terrible. And then Farrv ended with the Vikings and then Rogers and Steelers. But Farrv ended with he should have gone at the Super Bowl and he really made it to the two minute warning in the NFC championship game. And I'm just saying crazy parallels

of this season with Rogers is actually good. They're going to lose to Seattle next week. They're going to get crushed. They're going to lose. It's going to be 21 to 12. My winner of this week, is just Green Bay and Michael Parsons

and making that train. That's great, dude, their defense. Yeah, that worked out. Yeah, really good. Great call. Good move. Turns out having an elite pass rusher is a good thing. Packers rock Detroit, 2713.

Classic game. I think last year I wanted to call these friend zone games where it's like they look close, but if you were there, you'd like, they had no shot. This game was not close. It was 27 to 6 with five minutes left. I guess if Detroit,

Josh Allen that would matter. But the Packers put up 17 points in the first three drives and then just control, dominated the line of scrimmage. I think the game in a nutshell is the Packers got a lot of pressure without blitzing and the Lions did not get pressure and they blitzed a lot. And you could see it. And I mean, Michael Parsons got his first sack as a Packer. A lot of people were making jokes.

It looked like a lion running down a gazelle like Jared Goff. Another Michael Parsons pressure led to a pick. Michael Parsons beat Penaisal multiple times. But this stat I couldn't believe. I think Tony Ramos said this in the broadcast. 15 of Detroit's 21 rushes were hit at or behind the line of scrimmage, which is the most ever for a Dan Campbell coach team. Which I think that kind of sums it up.

And that is how you end. The Lions had 49 straight games at the touchdown. And the lion, this would have been the 50th. Lions did not score touchdown today. The Lions just, and look, there's a lot of variables here. And I think the Packers offense is going to be good. The Lions just looked nothing like the Lions in this game. it's deeply concerning if you are like I'm going to just one of my like sort of intrusive thoughts and we'll get to that later but one of my intrusive thoughts was like okay so ben Johnson was just the reason the lions were great for the last couple of years obviously I don't think that's completely true and I'm sure it's a long season we'll see the lions do a lot better but man their offense just couldn't do check shit in this game it's troubling yeah I mean yeah I mean here's the thing here's what I was

They're out physical. I've seen Jared Goff collapse a few too many times in his career. I think he's a good quarterback. I think he's a really good quarterback. And I've like gone too far in my Jared Goff, like, slander in the past, whatever. I think he's a good quarterback. But we saw, we saw like the difference that it made when he went from, who is his coach as a rookie year that was like, Jeff Fisher? When he went from Jeff Fisher to Sean McVeigh.

Yeah, the worst rookie season by some advanced metrics. ever at the time. And then, Sean McVeigh, like, helped him completely turn his career around. He was awesome from there on out. And then I think that relationship fizzled a little bit. Jared Goff lost his confidence. And McVeigh was like, I got to get rid of this guy. And then, you know, in comes Ben Johnson.

And he helps resurrect Jared Goff's career again. So, like, a second sort of act in Jared Goff's career. And, you know, I think he was really good for him. And so, like, now I'm just a little bit worried that based on what we saw today, that we're going to have, like, another regression. here. I feel like the line in the Bears Vikings game will change because of what we saw in this Lions game

today. Like it will show you, holy shit. Ben Johnson is very important. Even seeing Tanner Engstrand, who was the offensive, who was the past game coordinator for the Lions, he is now the offensive coordinator for the Jets. And we saw what the Jets did today. I'm like, I am now more

bullish on what I'm about to see tomorrow night out of Ben Johnson. Let me tell you something. After the reporting Tyler Dunn is done it go along. Yeah. Yeah. Which we can get into tomorrow night. Yeah, if the Bears play great, I will be. Ben Johnson is a god.

If you haven't seen that incredible substack, Tyler Donut's substack, one of the best, with an alarming reporting around Caleb Williams, we'll get to tomorrow. But yeah, I, it, you don't want to react to week one,

but it feels like so you could look back to and be like, that was the changing of the guard in this division. Like the Lions had their moment, and it's the Packers moment. Austin, that's what it felt like. Austin just,

a stat. The lion's rushing success rate was 22% against the Packers today, which was the worst since December 2022 for Detroit. They just couldn't run the ball. They just did not have any teeth at all. No. Okay. So then next up here, the, the I Am Become Death Oppenheimer Award for the player who went nuclear. The most out of left field game of the week. Not that, not that unfortunately for us. Yeah. Not that I had like a shitload of faith in the dolphins, but my God. Dude, Nate Tice was like, our expectations for you were low, but holy fuck. Yeah, that was really bad. Daniel Jones lit up the Dolphins defense.

The game was over like immediately. He had like 29 fantasy points. Daniel Jones. No, just Daniel Jones basically had these same amount of fantasy points as fields, which until Josh Allen Lamar happened was the number one for a quarterback all day. I saw the stat. I need to go back and make sure this is true. But the Colts scored on all seven of their drives in this game,

which is the first team to do that since 1977. That is, how is that possible? Part, I think that's a little fudge because it's seven. No, it's true. So the Colts won this game 33 to 8, and it actually wasn't that close. Like 33 to 8. No, it's... I mean, look, the Colts definitely benefited a lot from Tua's ineptitude.

He and his turnovers were atrocious. They were gifted short fields, and then all of a sudden it just snowballed for them. But Daniel Jones played pretty well. Well, it's tougher to it because he has a new head coach. But we know he doesn't. He's a new play caller. Well, he's receivers around. New receivers, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, no, no, no. It's like, what the fuck happened? Mike McDaniel? Holy shit. Tough. The vibes are horrific. Tyrone and Kill was like yelling on the sidelines.

It was, it was bad. It was really, really bad. Too alive. Just why did we pick the dolphins? We're idiots. No, because the Colts, dude. Well, the Colts's vibes were pretty bad. I believe we said on Friday, if Daniel Jones,

beats us, we'll live with it. And you know what? We're going to fucking live with it. Like, all right, cool. Daniel Jones was like a top guard guy in the day. But the irony is, I don't think Daniel Jones played that well. He had like three good throws. He missed a couple screens.

It was really like the Colts deep. He had two rushing touch. The Dolphins could not move the ball. That was the problem. The dolphins had 43 yards at halftime. I will say that again. The dolphins had 43 yards at halftime. And the Colts had 43 plays at halftime.

Yes. man. Maybe it was 33, but yeah, they had the same number. It's 43, you're right. 40 minutes into the game, so two-thirds. The Colts had three different players that had more yards than Miami did. It was Miami's, it was Miami's fewest yards at halftime since at least 1991. Which is when they started tracking that.

But it's probably been significantly more than that because that's when Dan Marino was the fucking quarterback. So it's probably been at least five, like 40 or 50 years. Do you think Tua will be a starting quarterback ever again after this year? I mean, yes. But this was, I mean, yeah, this was horrific. Someone joked that. You think he'll be traded to another team to start. I mean, he will play for someone.

Yeah, he's, I don't, I don't know if two is the problem, but I do think Mike McDaniels. He ain't the end of the world. You know what I noticed about this game? And I'm sure the tape heads will have some thoughts on this later after they dig into the L-22. But for whatever reason, it was immediately noticeable to me that Tua was not getting rid of the ball quickly in this game. He was driving back.

And the Tua thing, the Dolphins thing, the whole crux of the, their offense. The whole system is predicated on him hitting his back foot and getting the ball out, right? And I wrote down what he averaged like 2.55 seconds per throw, which is significantly, significantly slower

than what he had last year, where he led the NFL in time to throw in terms of the quickest throwing after a drop back. So he was like middle of the road this week. And so, I don't know, man, they were just giving them looks and not, he

didn't have he didn't trust what he was looking at carlos says the big lu luo effect i think that's totally true lu anorum was just it was making him hard it was making it hard for two it was making it hard for two it to know what he was seeing and get rid of the ball quickly there's a yeah there's a lot going i'm curious to see if the colts ended up copying what the bills have done to two in the past because i think there's a lot of things the bills have figured out but to his play which is basically make him push the ball to the boundaries and down the red line and just down the hashes and being like yeah he probably can't but overall it's just deeply concerning like i really do deeply concerning game for Miami.

I do want to say about the cults, importantly speaking Loua in Arumma, Cam Bynum, had an interception of Tua, and Cam Bynum's the undisputed king of defensive celebrations. He's the only innovator the NFL has because he's the guy who did all the rom-com dance celebrations last year, and then today he intercepted Tua, and he did the pretending to limp into the end zone

and did some crazy dance. And then he did the, it's like the side worm. Yes. But anyway, I just want to. but sideways. Honestly, one of the more athletic things I've ever seen an athlete do is the sideworm. It was. It was like the reverse hurdle

and the sideworm. But then Tyler Warren also played great. Yeah, a little mini category. I'm going to bring back the debutante ball for the player who matured in front of our very eyes. Tyler Warren, he has arrived and he is here and he is real and he is spectacular.

Tyler Warren. Today he was great. Everything we saw on the preseason. translated immediately to week one. And in the preseason, we talked about if there was a guy that you could take in the later rounds at tight end who we thought had a real shot to kind of finish in that four spot behind the big three, McBride, Bowers, and Kettle, we thought it was Tyler Warren, and it immediately looks like it is. Tide in four on the week so far.

Tied in four on the week so far. He was awesome. And Daniel Jones threw to him a ton, and he just immediately looks big, fast, great hands. And like he is going to be a guy in the league for the next 10 years. You want to shout out to John. true media and stathead. I found a fun fact. Sure.

If you look at literally every tight end's NFL debut ever going back to like the 60s, literally one tight end had in the history of the NFL ever had more than six catches in their debut.

Like one guy ever. Today, two tight ends did that. It was Tyler Warren and Harold Vanden. Wow. They both had seven catches. That had literally happened one time in history of the NFL ever in a debut. Who was the other guy?

Some rando? I remember. I had never heard. heard of him. Maybe he was good. I'm not saying he's not famous, but I had nerds. Eric, I don't know what he is. I'm a little worried. Tim Ken Johnson. He did it. Oh, I got that.

I have one of those coming up. Don't you worry. Tyler Warren. Seven catches, 76 yards. And he got to carry. Yeah. No, he looks amazing. Any other Oppenheimer's, Craig?

I think we should touch on the Friday game. Justin Herbert was, man, was I should say. He's got, he's got some pepin his step, Craig. Want to know in the Madison beer era. Why do you think that is? Look, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert. Dating hot celebrities, they're both want to know.

Maybe there's something to it. We got to get Lamar a girl, mate. Yeah. We do. What to know in the Madison beer era? And you know what? I saw today that Herbert and Madison were on a date. I hope they had a wonderful night because Herbert was cooking.

And honestly, the chargers were, looked like a completely different team. they came out and kicked the Chiefs in the teeth. They came out throwing a ton. Six of the first eight plays were throws. Herbert threw for 318 yards, three touchdowns. Quinn Johnson. Quinn Johnson had two touchdowns. What was the wide receiver won all day

until Save Flowers usurped him. But Quinn Johnson, wide receiver two, I imagine he will come up tomorrow on our waivers episodes. Go frogs. Go frogs. Kai made me say it. But dude, I got to say, Greg Roman leaning into the past in this game,

maybe this was a specific scheme to beat the Chiefs, but Herbert is healthy, which is something he has not been in a while, and Herbert is running, which is something he has not done in a while because he is healthy. He was hurt all last year. He got hurt week one.

He had high ankle sprains. He was a mess all last year and was not running a lot. I think there is a chance that we do see kind of a new Justin Herbert this year. He only ran for 32 touchdowns, but there were a couple called back plays. He really ran for like 60. And Justin Herbert's build and speed is Josh Allen.

They're the same. He actually ran a lot of. a faster 40 than Josh Allen. He has an inch taller. They are the same weight. There is a chance that Herbert scrambles more this year. They maybe design a run or two for him a game. And Justin Herbert is like a completely different fantasy asset this year.

He was perfect. The slide in him popping up and just looking out. Oh, yeah. Okay, this guy's fucking arrived. That really felt like a moment. Also, it's worth saying the charges have blown that game a hundred times. Like the chargers have just blown that specific lead so many times. It was important to win that game.

To your point, though, I thought about Greg Roman, and I think that's huge. I refused to the chagrin of some people who may be listening to this show. I refused to pick the Chargers to make the playoffs solely because I just was so frustrated that Greg Roman, the office coordinator,

had never really had a real passing, like drop-back passing offense, which was, I think they stuck to it stubbornly because Lamar Jack, because Greg Romans worked for both Harbaugh brothers. And that's how they got the 2019 Incredible Ravens system, but a lot of the Ravens breakdowns early in Lamar Jackson's career was because the Ravens didn't have a passing offense.

and I think that really plagued the charges last year too. And I do think there were real changes in this game. Nate Tice, who I referenced earlier, our friend Nate Tice noticed that this was the highest rate that Herbert had ever passed to wide receivers in his career. I think you noticed, I noticed that in two specific plays where I was surprised. Late in the game on when I wrote him down because I was shocked, the Chargers with two and a half minutes left,

Chiefs have three timeouts. The Chargers dropped back to throw in first down. and I just remember thinking like, Yeah, yeah, I remember that, yeah. The old Greg Roman would have been like we're running the ball. Just conservative. And I'm sure Jim Harbaugh is like, hey,

this is the best quarterback I've ever seen in my life. Let him throw the ball. The trust. And the other time was third and 14. Kurt Warner's on the call saying, you got to run the ball here. You got to run the ball here. And they drop back to throw.

And what does Herbert see? Chris Jones cuts inside, breaks contained because, I mean, and Chris Jones's head, he's like, I've ended Super Bowl's doing this. I'm going to do whatever I want. Herbert's like, screw that.

It's man coverage. I'm running around the back and he gets the, that's the slide play. But the point being that, like, them giving him Herbert the leash to, to throw in situations they prefer to run, and then him immediately delivering,

I think could pay a different end's all season. So yeah, I think it, you don't want to get too far in week one, but you guys make it's totally different. Johnston game. I know. Because my God.

He was just everywhere. What is anyone going to admit that he's maybe okay? He did drop a touchdown. Give me, give me two more weeks some good and bad he's just he's just gonna have the he's like gonna be nick westbrookokok kinet

but for 10 straight years and we're just never gonna admit he's good he's so good at crossing routes like deep overs and drags across the field where he runs away from defenders yards after the catch he's actually pretty he's great with the ball he's good at CCU yeah

to catch the ball I think this is the best these are the best weapons Herbert has ever had it's not like they're incredible Keenan's back the concoes back the concoes all Eden and Ladd with like QJ being like... It's a real offense. I guess an overqualified wide receiver three,

but I think although Marion Hampton didn't have a great fantasy day, I think he's going to be good. I don't think you should be worried. I think this team has a real shot. I thought their defense looked good too. Going to it's so over, we're so back. I don't know if a player's ever had a three days of it's so over, like Christian McCaffrey.

Followed up by, I mean, obviously the McCaffrey great calf injury of 2025. Was it so over? And then today was just, we're so back. Trisha McAfree, literally top five running back on the day, 142 yards from scrimmage. Fun fact. Christian McCaffrey had 31 touches today. Like, we were worried he wouldn't play.

Just out for the season. Shanhan cannot help himself. McCaffrey absolutely cannot help himself. 31 touches is the fifth most touches in Christian McCaffrey's career. He missed practice with a calf injury this week. Regular season or playoffs. Regular season or playoffs. I love this guy.

Fifth most touches of his career. We don't know if we'll be alive. tomorrow. Do you think there's a chance Shannon doesn't like Christian McCaffrey? He's just like, I'm going to give him as many carries as I can until he gets injured. There was a dude, it was third and 18, and they were like in their own territory. It was a

classic, like just sub-Christian McCaffrey out, put Brian and Robinson and run the ball and punt. No. McCaffrey. Pound it with McCaffrey. And the Seahs were like gang tackling him like every time. I know. There was one point where they got his legs and they were pulling somebody in the air. I thought for sure he was just going to come

out of there limping a one. Because the Seahs, I mean, the defensively, the Seahawks were pretty impressive in this game, except for the last, like, minute of the game. Except for the end when Mike, yeah. But, I mean, overall. He looked great. Yeah.

Yeah. God. I don't know how long this is going to last, but yes, you're good. Any other it's so over or so backs? Yeah, my it's so over is Sam Darnold. All right. It's over. Fuck.

And I, J.J. McCarthy is going to be great. That's what this game taught me is that Kevin O'Connell is a mastermind, maestro guru. and that Sam Darnold Halloween came early and he kind of looks like a pumpkin again. The Niners won 17, 13, and then the Seahawks took the lead 13 to 10 toward the end, and then the Niners went down and scored a touchdown, and Darnold seemed done compared to match.

He got stripped by somebody's butt, and it was a classic Darnold game. He made some throws where I was like, this guy physically is awesome. His throw to Jackson Smith and Jigba towards the end of the game was beautiful, gorgeous. And then he gets stripped by somebody's butt. And you're just like, this is. by his own right tackle running into him essentially. But you're just like, this is Darnold.

I thought the Seahawks didn't look good. I thought their offense looked super stale and stagnant. I was very unimpressed with the play calling in general and just like the style of the offense. I don't know. I just did not feel good about it after that game. I thought it was very flaccid. I will say, I will say this.

I think that if the Seahawks offense is going to look impressive this year, like again, we talked about Clint Kubiak, the offensive coordinator is supposed to change a lot of it, the Syracs offense. If there's a team that's going to be prepared for it, it would be the Niners. Because, again, when we talk about, like, Clint Kubiak. The other Kubiak is on the Niners, one of the three Kubiaks. Well, it's not just that.

It's Clint Kubiak. It's like the father and, you know, kind of, they're like literally invented zone. The other guy who invented it with them is fucking Kyle Shannon's dad. Like, they're, like, the guy's dad's invented the thing. So they understand it. Robert Sala learned all this from Kyle Shannon's dad, too.

So I will say, if anyone's going to be prepared to stop it, might be the Niners. However, I'm curious, you think, D.K., this game to me just reminded me of like, why did the Sealks want to trade Gino Smith again? I still don't totally understand this,

because if you do the math of like what Gino wanted and then what Darnold ended up getting, I'm like, they didn't save that much money. So I guess, DK, you know more about this than me, but my framework for this the whole time has been very simple. I think there's a handful of quarterbacks that I trust on like third and long,

third and eight, seven, And I'm like an adult drop-back pocket passer that isn't a superhero like Lamar or Josh in the pocket you can just scramble for it. But a pocket passer who can go through progressions and get you a play on third and seven. Gino's one of them. I don't know if Donald is. And I still don't know why you would not want Gino. Look, I don't know. I feel like, yeah, I agree.

This is what I've said all offseason. It's so funny because in Seahawksland, there's like a schism. It's like, you know, like back in the day when there were two popes. like half of the half of the CX fanhood is like Diocletian John Schneider is like pro Gino and like Gino's the man Gino's giving us the best chance to win and then like half of the fan base is like he fucking sucks he turns it over too much blah blah blah and like I can see both sides I personally and I said this all Aussies I think Gno's better than Darnold um but I don't know man like I'm annoyed with myself for letting myself get kind of excited about the Cilx offense

Oh, you're annoyed with yourself for getting excited about your team. I don't want to hear anything about you being annoyed about being excited. I was just incredibly overwhelmed with this game. But, I mean, at the end of the day, they almost won. It was pretty close. There's like a couple of defensive busts that right at the end of the game that like really, like that catch, like some fucking random-ass tight end that I've never heard. He literally had never had a catch. Tonges.

He'd never had a catch in the NFL before today. That was like, and he caught like this incredible touchdown. It looked like the catch. It looked like Dwight Clark. It looked like the catch in the Niners End zone. The Seahawks. Basically, like, jumped in front of the Seahawks, like, corner and he double-kett caught it. It, like, fell down into his knees.

It kind of should have been knocked out. It was just a miraculous play. And it was a miraculous play by Purdy, too. So, I don't know. It was just- Purdy played well toward the end. Man, this game was at home in Seattle. Purdy had two bad picks.

Yeah. And you only scored 13 points? It's Purdy. recovered. Yeah. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm so, that, I, well, I, I, I, I, I, I'm like, man, it's over. But, Dicke, you mentioned Darnold is one Pope, and then Gino's another Pope for Syracs fans, you meant you left that Russell Wilson, you're, you, you're, you, you don't miss him. Oh, God. Uh, it's so over for Russell Wilson. I take back everything I've said over the last year plus about Russell Wilson and Aaron Rogers essentially being

picking Rush over Rogers this year. I will say most of it was like me just being contradictory or whatever, but now I'm like, okay. Russ sucks. He has sucked for three years. He was 17 or 37 for 168 yards. One, I counted, I looked at his past chart

and I saw one completion over the middle of the field past five yards. He just like can't, his offense doesn't work anymore. He sucks. He sucks. It's over. Also, I was, sorry to interrupt you again. but Dayball, like, did not commit to Russell Wilson for next week. We might see, we might see Jackson Dart next week. Russell Wilson, today was Russell Wilson's 200th start.

Oh, wow. I don't need 2.01. Yeah. Like, with respect to Russell Wilson, he doesn't need to play again. I've seen, I've seen too much. Who they got next week? Didn't have any, don't give it, cowboys, but I don't care. Like, I don't give a shit.

That's not a bad spot. Throwing dart. I know that, like, even two months ago, I was like, Oh, let dart. Sit. Let them learn. Fuck that. This is what happens. We told you this.

You were like, you say that. And then you're going to watch three Russell Wilson games. And be like, fuck it. I didn't think it would be this fucking bad. Here's why. I didn't, dude, okay, let me tell you something. I'm going to tell you about a sequence and then I have to tell you a stat that made me really sad. First of all, I was really mad at Dayball because the Giants got within the goal line.

And they went four and out at the goal. I respected they went front and fourth down. But they went four and out. They got a ticky-tacky call, gave them new life, gave them first and goal at the one. They fucking went three and out again at the one. And then to avoid the, frankly, like crazy virality that would come of going eight and out, they kicked the field goal to get points because if you, that would have been really bad. But that they didn't get a touchdown to which the broadcast showed a stat that the Giants went.

they did not score a touchdown in this game. The Giants have gone three straight season openers without scoring a touchdown. Whoa. I'm going to say it again. The Giants have not scored a touchdown week. Here's the deal with the Giants. They are not very good at scoring touchdown.

They score an alarmingly few amount of touchdown. Here's the deal. Here's the deal with the Giants. In football, the main goal is to scoff. what we call touchdowns. In this sport, it's called a, there's a painted area

at the end of the field. There's a zone. And then at the end of the zone, it usually has the team's name on it, it's painted your team color. You've got to get the ball in there. The last time an NFL team failed to score a touchdown in three straight seasons,

season openers, was the 1940. Lions failed to do so at 1940, 1941 and 1942. Are you guys aware of other events that happened in America in the fall of 1941 and 1942 that may have prevented the 1940s Detroit

Lions? World War II? Okay, yeah. So anyway, I want to read you some players on the 1940 Lions that this Lions team that failed to score a touchdown three straight weeks. Whizzer White. Of course.

Remember what? Later went to the Supreme Court, right? Wizard White. Old Wizard. He was drafted by the pirates. The Pittsburgh pirates were a football team then in 1938. And then he was like, fuck this. I'm like getting paid enough.

Went to Rhodes Scholar in England. And then World War II started so he'd leave. Came back and led the NFL in rushing for the lions. Then he went back. And he came to Supreme Court. No. Anyway, the other guys in this team, Cotton Price? Cotton.

Howie Price? Bold move, cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him. Cotton Price and Howie Weiss. Okay. Stillman Rouse. Nice. Stillman.

Nickname or real name? Stillman. Actually very fast. What's his last name? Rouse. Rouse. He's also pronounced with two L. So it's Stillman Rouse.

It's stillman, Rouse. Stillman Ivan Rouse. Yep. That's his name. Butch Morse. Bush. Bush. I don't know.

Harry Hop. Harry Hop. I think I remember him. My favorite one of all. I'm cheating. This is the 1941 lines. I don't care. Steve Belichick. Related? What? Yes. Was it his dad? Oh, wow.

Steve Belichick's father was on the last team. No shit. Yeah. Here he is. Anyway, yeah, I hate the Giants. Honestly, just give me dart. I have no hope. Yeah, dude. I have no hope. Like, this team, like, I actually thought Russ would be better than this.

Like being able to score a touchdown from the one. With three tries. He's like, oh for his last six games. No. Yeah, honestly, they need to bench him. Anyway, they might. They might do it. I thought that was really funny that the reporter kept going back.

He's like, okay, so to be clear. Committing to this. To be clear, so I have it on the record. You are, the way that you worded that makes it sound ambiguous about whether you're going to start Russell Wilson again. It's a tough spot to be in because, like, what are you supposed to say? Yeah, it's funny. It's, the Giants can't have another 0-and-2 start where they're like,

91% of teams don't make it a place. They're owning two. Yeah, anyway. Any other worst sub-backs? I just want to shout out Travis E-TN a little bit here because from a fantasy point of view, this is pretty important. ETN, by far the lead guy for the Jags in this game. I know.

RIP, Tink Biggsby. Tank Bigsby a afterthought, five rushes for 12 yards. Basically, he and Tootin, rooting for Tutin split carries on early downs. And then LeQuint Allen was on third downs. So Bigsby had almost no role in this game. E.N 16 carries 143 yards. A lot of that was one really long run, like 70 something yards or something. But I thought ETN looked pretty good, honestly, in this game.

And so it looks like right now he is the back to have in Jacksonville. The Jacksonville offense. I don't know. I thought it was decent. I thought they looked pretty good. They dominated that game for sure. So Travis Eton shouts to him. He's so back.

He's the leader of that. He's looking right now like a real, like we knew we thought we knew that somebody in the Jacksonville backfield was going to be the guy. And if Liam Cohen's offense work, that would be a valuable pick. And we were leaning Biggsby, but it looks like it's going to be ETN. It's week one, you never know, but we were close to nailing this season. If week one holds water, which was we were joking, we should make the draft picks like X. And the running back X were like ETN and Brise.

And what if you just draft these really talented guys that usually go higher? So we'll see. But yeah, so now we get to do, wow, it's been a while since we've done this. But we get to play America's favorite. favorite game. Fart or Shart? Craig, will you just give people, we'll explain people a little bit like what, you know, what exactly

fart or shard is here for the new listeners who are a little freaked out? Was this merely a one-time mistake or a permanent issue? You know, do you need to go home from dinner or can you just run to the bathroom and clean things up? And where I'd like to start

is DK. Fart or Shart? Every single good wide receiver was bad today. Jamar Chase, three points. T. Higgins, four points. Nico Collins, four points. Amon Ross, St. Brown, six. Tyreek Hill, six. Brian Thomas scored

a touchdown and only had eight points, which is very difficult to do. A.J. Brown had one point. Jalen Waddle, five points, and Calvin Ridley, four points. Brutal. Absolutely brutal. I think it was, obviously, I think it's a fart.

It's not something I'm really worried about. I think it's a really sneaky fart, but however, look at this list in this, I sent you this list. If you had to assign one shart to this list of, I think, eight guys that I just read you, five, nine guys. Who has the shart?

Probably Waddle. Yeah. Waddle's the one I'd be the most worried about. And then Amman Ra, just based on the way the Lions offense played, is worrisome, but I still think that they'll get it together a little bit more than this. Do you agree with that hyphen's that Waddle is the shart?

Yeah, Waddle and Tyreek. I'm just like, I mean, Tyreek didn't get voted a captain and if the vibes are bad, yeah, both them. Brutal. It's just awful. Nico Collins did nothing. Nico Collins? What are you doing?

Chase and Higgins and nothing. It's just awful. The whole AJ Brown thing was just brutal. He had like one target late in the game. I'm pretty sure he's hurt, which is like worse. We'll see. Yeah, I agree. Obviously play all these guys.

But yeah, no, the dolphins. I'm the only one where I'm like next week, I don't know if you play him. Again, Jaylett Waddle, three games with 20 points in two years. Like, I just, you know, just worth reminding. Okay, I want to do a thing we did last year that I think is funny called intrusive thoughts. These don't have to be in depth, but we're just, honestly, these are just things that occurred to you during eight hours.

Again, thoughts are just things you think. You don't have to, you know, sign meeting, but I just try to be more honest about things. And I want to start off here with, I think, a good example of an intrusive thought, which is when this whole sequence that I'm going to describe happen in one second during a play

literally it was during a play before the play even ended Russell Wilson was scrambling it was like third down and it was like the first or second drive and Russell Wilson is scrambling

like to the end zone and honest to God my thoughts were Ross don't get hurt don't get hurt don't get hurt and then I was like I guess it doesn't matter if you get something

You don't root for it I'm not rooting for it I just kind of realized that the middle of the play it doesn't really affect my life if Russ gets hurt I'm not saying that's a good thought but I did think it

so yeah with that said what injury away from having a good team yeah don't share an injury way Dick any intrusive thoughts today my intrusive thought I already kind of said it's just that Ben Johnson

was the reason for the lion's success I'm just a little bit worried about how just pitiful they were in this game. I think in my heart that they will get better, but I had that thought. Put in your head, you're like, another intrusive thought that I had. D.K., I am sorry to say this to you, but watching the Seattle 49ers game, I'm, I just over and over again was like, Zach Charbonnet is better running back than Ken Walker. Just straight up. Look, this is intrusive thoughts.

And mine was not exactly the same, but it was like, oh, fuck, what if he is better than Kenneth Walker? He just seems better. Too much of my personality is, like, entwined with Russ Kenneth Walker being good. He certainly ran better in this game. And if I'm being, if I'm trying to rationalize why that happened, I'm like, maybe it's because Kenneth Walker missed huge chunks of training camp. Maybe it was just random, maybe whatever. But yeah, I mean, he was, he was the better running back in this game by far. So, we'll be.

Random one. a little bit not great for me personally you literally got more carries more yards more touchdowns and it just looked better well he had fewer opportunities for what it's worth

Kenneth Walker had more targets and carries than Charbonnet and it was like it looked like Charbonnet was the lead back in this game but they were just like rotating drives and the drives that Sharpenet was in

they did well and then the ones that Walker wasn't in they did not so you know do with that what you will could be random We'll see how it goes. Some of it was just random.

Well, I mean, look, if you go back and watch the game, like Kenneth Walker's getting fucking tackle in the backfield. No, that's not necessarily his part. For things we realize. Random, whatever. Random, whatever. Hey, I'm rationalizing. I fucking admitted it, all right?

I know. Don't give me shit. It's like Carlos. It's like what Carlos are, I'm so sorry, Carlos. Now you have two good running backs, D.K. This is a good thing. I actually, truthfully, was like, it's cool that Charbonnet is awesome.

He looks really good. He's on your team. You keep acting like he's not on your team. You have two. Yeah, that's great. I know. I just like, I just like, Kenneth Walker a lot, but it's like when Sequin was hurt.

And I, like, he would have a run. He looked good for a second. I was like, oh, and then I was like, oh, fuck, that's Wayne Galman. Wayne Galman. I very vividly remember that exact play. That's how, fans always know first when players injured because they start having moments like that. And then they keep it to themselves. Wayne Goldman sounds like he was on the 1942 Lions.

Well, he knows. he was and then he went to fight the Nazis. William Hoppy Galman. Craig, any intrusive thoughts today? My intrusive thought, and again, this is just an intrusive thought, is that Ashton Jentee's like just Leonard Fortett. I'm a little worried that he's going to give him like 300 carries. He's going to like muscle his way to 1,200 yards and eight touchdowns.

And he'll be fine in fantasy. He'll average 3.8 yards per carry. Yes, he's going to average three. Today he had 19 carries for 38 yards, but he had a touchdown. And it was hard to tell today that he is a freak talent that we know him to be. My buddy, Chris, has been saying this to me for the last couple of weeks. And he's not just saying this because we went to San Diego State and we love Rashad Penny or anything like that. He's more making a joke about the Mountain West.

He's like, I still don't really understand what the difference is between Rashad Penny and Ashton Jente. He's like, Rashad Penny ran for like 2,500 yards. in college. He ran for more yards per carry than Ashton Genty did. And he was like, but we just decided Ashton Genty is the greatest running back of all time. Why? Why? Craig, we have incredibly short memories. That's why. No, obviously it's like watching Ashton Genty, he's incredible. You know, the yards after, he was, he is a unique talent. However, it does cross my mind the Mountain West thing when I see him play in the NFL. The Mountain West and also the Raiders can't block the

Raiders were dead last Nards for Kerry last year. The Raiders were unblocking. But like that kind of goes hand in hand of. I thought Gentie flashed a few times on this. Like his his escapability, the juice that he has to make guys miss. Also, just for the record. Just an intrusive thought. We got to say this.

Like Penny would have been awesome if he could have just not gotten hurt every fucking year of his career. Like when he was healthy, he was really good. That is actually, that's a good note. Penny's became a punchline, but like he actually had a lot of issues. Like, but before that. Like every year he was in the league. I'm just a little nervous.

I'm just, I'm nervous too. Like 10% of me is like Trent Richardson, but I'm not, I'm not even close to that. I'm at 10%. That's just the dreadlocks. These are intrusive thoughts.

That's the same thing as did Jeremy shock he comes to Tyler Warren. It's just so, you know, hair. My intrusive thought was, oh God, is Aaron Rogers going to win the MVP? He's not. He's not.

Yeah. Just when the comeback. The only time he's good is when people start thinking he sucks. Comeback player to year. Honestly, D.K. now I'm like mad, you're right. The problem with Rogers has everyone believed to the Jets.

The fucking Packers drafted a quarterback in the first round and then he won two MVP. This is what I'm saying. Everybody is everybody, it went way too far. You know what? I'm just realizing now I got on I forgot my best thing about Rogers. I got off my best. Damn it. And then I realized

I became inoculated to the slander. Okay. Now, even immunized. Hifens, what were you trying to say? Who cares? It doesn't matter. It's stupid. It's stupid. No, I just think the problem was Roger stopped doing drugs. I will say there was a moment today. There was an angle where I saw his giant forearm tattoo and I was like, fuck.

That was a fuck. That was a dick. Did he explain it yet? Does it need to? Okay. Play of the day. Yeah. There were a lot of good ones. There were a lot of good ones. Isaac Tisla, the lion's receiver, that one-hand catch that turned out is,

they're like, I was butt at the ground, and it was his towel. And so, like, he just barely, I've never quite seen it. It wasn't even a toe tap. It was a straight-up heel tap. That was an incredible thing in the corner of the end. It didn't matter at all.

Yoink. Yeah. Romo also called it out, even though you could, like, see his heel. And Romo was like, that's not a catch. Tough day for Tony Romo. Tough day.

he kept calling Jordan Love the wrong name I can't remember what he was saying is like Jeremy Love or something like that It's it's let's not get into it I'm gonna say saying I regret DeAndre Hopkins Incredible touchdown catch

In the Ravens game I do want to also throw just Mahomes All deleted history Because these teams lost For the Lions Ravens and Chiefs But the Chief Mahomes had another Like horizontal throw Like he just was

He flipped the ball to juju He looked like a fucking superhero He was in the middle of the air. He was like a foot off the ground and he just flipped the ball to juju. Well, Mahomes is truly in danger of now, I think actually has the worst receiver in core he's ever had right now.

It's crazy. Where they got hurt like on the first play. It's a nightmare in Kansas City, catching passes. Any other best play of the day? I think we would be remiss to go this whole podcast without mentioning a Mecca Buka, scoring the game-winning touchdown.

His second touchdown. of the day. I mean, look, Tyler, Tyler Warren, I think is up there on a guys where it's just like, you know he's going to be good in the NFL. And I think Abuka is exactly the same. Like, this guy's just going to be really good. My play that stood

out to me was the Bejan Robinson's 50-yard touchdown. It was the first touchdown of the day on Sunday, I believe. And it was just that dump off on like the fourth play of the game. And he looked like he was fast-forwarded and truly looked like he's even gone up a level athletically. And I was kind of shocked that he

outran those forward bucks. The only thing missing from his profile was like he actually, Bijan weirdly hadn't had like long touchdowns. And it was nice to see him immediately get one. Yeah, 100 receiving yards today. That's incredible. But yeah, the Abuka, I think,

I kind of do think the best play was Tesla, although it's weird. I don't like, I don't know, it's kind of, the game is kind of over. Do you want to pick one or something? Also, Matthew Stafford had a sidearm, no look pass to Bukukukua early. I don't know when it was in the game,

but just vintage Stafford. And I used to think to know look at Puka And Puka just peeling himself off the turf Like he went to the I think he was bleeding Like four times He looked like the

The good James Bond guy Who's eye bleeds When he's like playing poker Like Pooka just looked How many times did he go back And forth to the locker? Puka just man Maybe just like don't try and run off the catch

Yeah I will say I used to think He needs to like watch more Tyler The guy that taught Tua Toa to like how to fall Buka needs to go to that guy. Do you think Stafford does the no look passes on purpose?

Do you think Stafford actually just can't turn his neck sometimes? It's like drive. Like when you get old and you're driving, you like can't look in your blind spot. It's like old guy golf swings. They like don't have a hip. There's no mobility. Without it. It's a good question.

Stafford just doesn't correct anyone. We're like, wow, you did that on purpose to hold the safety. And he's like, yeah. Yeah, totally. Totally. I'm changing lanes without looking, Matt. I'm just going to go for it. Worst play of the day.

I have one. I don't know, Craig. Do you have your worst play the day? This doesn't make the stat sheet because it was called back, but Bryce Young had one of the worst picks you'll ever see. It was a pick six, and he was like trying to evade a sack and literally like Will levist it up to the defender. and it was an immediate pick-sick,

but they called it back. The Panthers are so lucky that game got lightning delayed and we watched it. It was horrific. It's bad. I will say, worst play the day.

I actually want to give it a Cam Ward for the Titans who both played well and also the Titans were horrific. He had two points in fantasy, which is kind of tough. Dead last. Awful.

Did you see the long drive he had in the third quarter? Yeah, pretty impressive. I can't think of the worst way to start your career than at Denver. I know, yeah. I will say, I don't think he came word looked overwhelmed. He looked like he belonged. He was arm strength.

He was hitting receivers in their hands. Like, traits-wise, I'm like, okay, this works. But then the actual, like, games, I mean, so Austin Gale here at the ringer sent me this, that the Titans average 6.2 yards per play. It's pretty good. I was like, no, no, no, no. 6.2 yards per drive. Yeah, they basically would just get punts

and run them back into field goal range and then kick field goals from the same spot. It was the lowest yards per drive that Titans have had in the 21st century. And it was actually worse than that because they just kept getting the ball in Broncos field position. But anyway, worst play of the day to me was just

the Broncos somehow, despite this, the Titans were only down one point. And then Marvin Mims, the Broncos fumbles a punt return. So the Titans get the ball in the red zone. Like at the 22 yards. line. The Titans have the ball. You could literally kneel it down three times kick a field goal and the Titans will be winning the game in the fourth quarter. Cam Ward takes two sacks for 27 combined yards. Literally gets handed the ball in the red zone and I'm not shitting you. He runs backwards. Like he gets a shotgun snaps, sees pressure and runs 10 yards backwards. And I was like, okay, this is a little learning experience for everyone. I think that's one of the biggest learning curves going from college to pro is that you cannot evade sacks like you think you can. Like, Cam Ward is not that fast. He's a big dude.

He kind of lumberes a bit. And when he's at Miami, he is like, oh, I can just like turn around, roll out, make a throw. Every time he tried to do that, he got caught today. The defensive lineman, whether it's defensive tackles or defensive ends, are literally in the NFL. Every one of them is the best player you ever face. And they all run faster 40 times than Cam Ward. Yeah. They're like insane athletes.

This is why Shudur would Shudor Sanders would struggle in the NFL, I think, because even in the preseason it was the thing. New category we're introducing this year. Stadium pulse of the week. D.K. Texas had no idea what this means. Stadium pulse. What do you think it means?

Stadium pulse. I don't know. Is it like something to do with like the... I don't know. Just tell me. I'm not sure. So the college football video game has an incredible feature,

which is if, you're going to try to kick a field goal, like the pressure of the moment makes the kick harder. So if it's an extra point and you're up 50 points, it's like, doesn't there. And if you want to hit a 50 yard yarder to beat Alabama, it's like the time expiring. It's like,

it's pucker factor. And it's literally impossible. Or it like rattles your remote. Yeah, it like, it literally, like your actual control is like when you're trying to park. Yeah, and it's going a thousand miles an hour. And so it's become this like, honestly one of the best memes on the internet is, Craig,

what were the examples that made you think of this? Oh, I don't know. What was an example? It would be like if you were at a bar and a pretty girl came up to you and like asked you and it's like the stadium pulse to nail the response or something like that.

It's like stadium pulse is incredible. They don't have to be kickers, but I actually do think kickers deserve it this week because this poor Browns kicker who doesn't have enough vowels in his name, Andre Smith, Z M-Y-T. It's S-M-Y-T?

I don't know. I'm fucking... S-M-Y-T? I'm fucking guessing here, man. I'm going to look that up while you guys... Schmidt? It's a Schmidt. Whatever.

He fucking missed four points of kicks in a game that Brown's lost by one. So that kind of sucks. He missed a 26-sharp-old. Yeah, I think it's Schmidt. Oh, Schmidt. Schmidt. I think it's Schmidt. That's probably how it was spelled in the old country.

But, yeah, 36-year-old. a field goal an extra point. It's tough for Andre Schmidt. This isn't really a stadium pulse. I just had nowhere else to put it. But man, did you guys see that video of Miles Garrett drilling Joe Burrow? It's got to be so scary to play quarterback. Dude.

Remember the Gino Smith, Aaron Donald when he goes like, oh my God. Fuck. It is like, oh my God. Like the most genuine relatable. I kind of like, oh my God. I think there's like, this is like workplace malpractice what the Bengals are doing. to Joe Burrow. I don't think he should be on the team. What he has to go through day in and day out is just to make it to 500.

It is unfair. It is almost underrated how much we were just saying like, these are the most athletic people in the world, like the defensive ends and defensive tackles, like the biggest, fastest people in the world. And they're trying to crush you to all they want to do. And my Instagram algorithm recently has kind of started, I don't know why, but I'm getting more like great white shark jump scares from divers, which I don't really want, but I guess I watch because they keep feeding it to me. And that really is what's happening to these guys is this kind of just Joe Burroughs just going

along. He's like, holy fuck Miles Garrett. Dude, except he doesn't, but except he just sits in there and took it. I mean, Miles Garrett comes rounding the corner like Mr. Larson and Happy Gilmore. And Burrow just sticks in there, makes the throw and gets fucking annihilated. And they barely beat the Browns by one. I'm like, dude, Burrow is. It's a $90 million a year collision right there. a large hatchard collider. Oh my God.

There was a video that used to circulate on Twitter. And it was like from the 80s. I can't, I apologize, I can't remember the players. It was basically like, defensive linemen going through the bag drills where they were like, you know,

weaving through and then hitting those bags. And it's like, you know, the ones that like kind of, you could knock them over, but then they come back right back up or whatever. And it was like two straight practice reps. And it was a Hall of Fame past rusher.

And then like a practice squad guy. And like the Hall of Famer was just fucking annihilating these practice dummies and the top in the practice squad guys just like kind of jogging through and like you know barely touching them. I'm like that's what playing Miles Garrett must feel like it's so. It's incredible how much more athletic he is than almost anyone in the league. He was running at full speed with with the goal with the intent to fucking kill Joe Burrow. I just like I don't I just want to make it clear like how different Miles Garrett is. than most players ever. Having to face that.

It's like the Micah Parsons thing. Is that worth $45 million a year? I don't know. Taking that hit. I don't know. How much would you pay the last? Oh, my God. Aaron Donald, can you imagine?

I mean, I would die if he hit me. So I would not take that money because I'd be dead if he hit me. One of my favorite things I ever saw at NFL. One of my favorite things I've ever seen NFL practice was the refs at training camp. watching Aaron Donald because they couldn't believe it.

And then like he beat a practice squad player so bad. They were laughing and like, refs shouldn't laugh. So they're all like turning around trying desperately to not be seen laughing. Okay, next one here. The Arthur Smith slash Sean Hockey Award for Coach and or ref that pissed you off. There was so weird calls in this one. I will say this is just random,

but there was a point in that late in the Jets Steelers game where the Jets were they're deep down near the end zone and the referee made a call and he was like personal foul offense. This was bad. And the crowd was like all pissed and then he goes, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Personal foul

defense. He let it sit for like 10 seconds. Yeah, so I had already like fired out a few texts like nice. They're moving back. He was like, no, no, no, sorry, sorry, sorry. Correction. Personal foul defense. Even the announcer's like, that was like a WWE turn.

Yeah. It was. That was good. Also, wait, that was a, that fouls on Jalen Ramsey. And I actually want to say the play of the day was Jalen Ramsey making an attack call on Garrett Wilson. They were Jarre and earlier that was game, too. That was pretty, yeah. I agreed to get it.

That was hilarious. The only, I guess this wasn't terrible call, but I just didn't. The Michael Pennix dive for the end zone. We didn't talk about this game a ton, but like the Bucks won. Baker had a great comeback. but the Michael Pennings dive for the end zone. And then like it, it was Antoine Winfield, the safety of the Bucks recovered it,

but he was out of bounds. But then it's like, is that that weird rule of the balls, fumble that abounds? And they're like, no, because Michael Penix, if you dive for a ball and you're not your hand or foot hits the ground, then like you are giving yourself up. And I'm like, wait, let me get this straight. If you dive for the goal line and you are untouched and you bounce in,

that doesn't count because you've quote unquote given yourself up, I didn't know that rule. I kind of just assumed if you're, like, I know the rule of you give yourself up. Like if you kind of like do the Tyler Locke and just dive, you're like, I don't want to get hit. Is he giving himself up? He's diving for a first down. That's what I'm saying. I thought giving yourself up was actively avoiding being hit or an injured player who drops a ball.

Yeah. Like diving, how is diving for the end zone giving yourself up? But apparently any dive is giving yourself up, which I didn't know. And I don't really know. But then why when a running back dives for the end zone and fall. fumbles into the end zone without crossing the line. Because they haven't hit the ground with other parts of their body. Which I frankly didn't know that part of the rule.

It's one of those things. I feel like the whole fumble into the end zone thing is like, and it's kind of like a glitch in the game where I feel like they still are like, ah, we just, you're not supposed to do that. We don't have an answer for that. Dude, it's, it's, I, yeah, I agree. It's dumb.

But anyway, that was weird. However, I actually have decided I have one other random thing I want to yell about, which is just. a couple quarterback sneaks fail today. So there's two parts of the tush push, right? There's the pushing of Jalen Hertz. And then there's also like the way the Eagles offensive line moves, right? You know, they kind of like do it.

Why don't, how are, like every time a quarterback sneak fails and they don't, and the running backs behind them not pushing? I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? Am I crazy? You're saying why isn't every QB sneak a tush push? Why is like if, no, but the tush push is two elements. It's hurts being pushed. And it's the way.

way the offensive line goes. I get the way the offensive line technique-wise, it's hard to do. Why aren't they pushing the quarterbacks? Was it the Rams who had one? I saw Stafford try to see. That one I get. You don't want to shove on Matt Stafford's back. You don't know what Epiturals are going to

fuck with. He's got holes in his spine. But the other ones, I'm like, you're in love, had to like turn ass forward and like just start putting. I'm like, where the fuck is Josh Jacobs? Like, bench press his ass over the line. What the fuck? Is it because then Josh Jacobs would have to be right behind Jordan Love at the snap and then it would give it away that it's a sneak?

I don't know. Run up and hit him. I'm just, I'm not going to unsee this now. And like, I'm curious if you guys experience this too. Going forward when there's quarterback sneaks and they, there's just the running back just staring. And I'm like, it's 20, 25. You can push the quarterback. Do it.

I don't know. It's just mostly tradition. Yeah. And I'm like just fucking push. Anyway, that's my anger. It's like, anytime a quarterback sneak fails and you're not pushing the quarterback, I'm just going to move. my mind.

Yeah, Dek, any of their things? Did you get over the Seahawks not going for it on fourth and inches? What was your guys' take on that one? So basically the Seahawks, it was tied 10 to 10. There was, I don't know, I think a little less than two minutes to go. And the Seahawks, instead of going for it on fourth and one, deep in their own, or sorry, deep in the 49ers side, they just kicked a field goal to go ahead, 13 to 10, gave the ball back to the 49ers. 49ers promptly drove down the field and scored a touchdown.

And I mean, I guess the Seahawks did have a chance to win it again later. But I just, for a coach like McDaniel who goes for it a lot on Fourth Down, sorry, McDonald. He goes for it a lot on Fourth Down. He is analytically pretty forward thinking, I think, and all that. For him to not go for it there, it was just kind of a surprise. And it irked me in the moment. Tomorrow I might feel differently, but like right now I'm just like, man,

you had them on the ropes kind of. If you go for that, if you go for it there and get it, you win probably. In Niners territory, I think you got to go for it. Fourth and one. How did you guys feel about the Ravens punting on, what was it, fourth and two, fourth and three at the end of the game there? Did you agree with that? Like blacked out. I'm trying to get pointed out.

I'm trying to remember. It was the final Ravens possession of the game. And it was like fourth and two or fourth and three. And they opted to punt. Oh, yeah. They opted to punt. If they didn't convert, the bills would have immediately been in field. the goal range. That's the problem.

But overall, I see what you're saying where the Raven, frankly, it's one of those things where I think it's puck or factor. I think it's like, holy shit. Like the Ravens have done, I mean, that's a little aggressive because you're so close. You're kind of conceding the game, honestly, if you miss that. But fourth and three, like, oh, my God, you'll have get it. The argument is that they don't get it. And then it's the Bill's ball. The Ravens still at three timeouts. So they, in theory, could have stopped the bills. The bills kick a field goal and there were still plenty time for the ratings to get the ball. My real answer, thinking about it is the math probably did suggest going forward with all that going for it.

But at that point, I don't know, man. You're kind of panicking. It's tough. It's tough in your own territory when if you give up the ball, they're already in field goal territory. It's like, oh, yeah. It's, it's, that's hard to ask a coach to do. I have one quick Arthur Smith award for the coach that pissed me off. Mike McDaniel for the, for the dolphins, there was just a Tyree kill catch that was 30 yards.

They called it out of bounds. showed one replay. He's clearly in bounds. That's a catch. The announcers, nothing. And I'm like, if Mike Daniel and his staff

doesn't even give a fuck, then why should the players? I don't think that's McDaniels is direct fault. No, it's like his, whoever's up in the booth, not noticing or, but I'm like.

But that's his job is to make those, make sure that those people are communicating with them. I thought it was embarrassing. I agree. That was unfortunate. I, literally what are you? Like what?

What? Everybody but you guys know that's, a catch. Everybody at home, the announcers, probably the people in the stadium watching the Jumbo Tron. How are the coaches the only people who can't see that? It's really brutal. Yeah, that's a good call.

The Lucille Bluth, I don't understand the stat line. I won't respond to it award. I mean, yeah, number one receiver until Sunday football is Quentin Johnson for the charges. That's pretty funny. Go for us. And then it was Keating Allen. Ladd McCawley wasn't even there. D.K. Jemir Gibbs had 31 yards on 10

catches, which is a new NFL record. That's some Camara shit. Fewest yards on double digit catches. He broke the record by Alvin Camaro, who had 33 yards on 13 catches and a loss to the bucks in 2023. Yeah, if I just in my mind, when I picture, the first thing that comes on my mind, when I picture the lion's offense today was a swing pass to Gibbs and then he would run directly out of bounds, like parallel to the line of scrimmage.

And that was like the only thing they could do. I don't know why, but Jared Goff looked more like a giant giraffe out there today. He looked like he was on stil. He's demoralizing. Yeah, I think, I think it's because Ben Johnson's gone. Probably. Okay. Two tight ends who outscored Kyle Pitts in a lie.

We should say, Kyle Pitts. He was fine. He was sold. Seven catches, 59 yards. Played well. Actually, it was physical. I was going to say. Played well.

It looks healthy. Tight ends outscored him. Not many tight ends outscored him. No, he was the tight end 12. There was his first catch. He like had some juice, made a guy miss. I was like, okay. What did you make a penics overall today?

Kind of liked him. I continue to think he's good. And he'll make a couple bonehead throws, but he's got this. He can fucking rip it to the sideline. I think he's the new Tua in that. And not just because he's left. He's what Tua was a few years ago where you're like, I don't know if this is going to work for like,

like record-wise, but for fantasy, this is going to be unbelievable. Like, the same way the dolphins, it's not as innovative and cool as what the dolphins are doing for years ago. But, Craig, I think you said it at like two in the afternoon. You're like, this is the league pass team. Like, the Falcons are just going to be like ripping passes all day.

Yeah. And they're probably going to lose really close games, 28 to 24 every week. Yeah. But, yeah, so two decades outscored Kyle Pitts in a lie. Juan Johnson. Harold Fanon. Jake Tongass.

Jake Tongass didn't outscore Pitts. How dare you? Did he? He scored touchdown? No, I don't think he did. No, he didn't. No. It was close, though.

He was close. I only know this because I actually started Kyle Pitts in a league, and so I'm keenly aware of how many points he scored. Kyle Pitts seven catches, 59 yards. He had a good, he had a good day, Calpitts. Okay. We're going to do Burn Book now, but before we do Burnbook,

I want to remind people if you're listening that for Monday waivers we do trivia. So please email us trivia questions for the Monday waivers episode. And then also Wednesday, email is fantasy court.

So if you have fantasy court questions or whatever's going on a fantasy court, any issues your argument in group chat, we will litigate. We'll solve. And the trivia questions need, the answer needs to be a number, something that we can guess

and determine who gets for second and third. Yeah. So you can't send a trivia question like, who's the best running back? Well, no, it's like, you know, how many Nazis did Wizard White kill? And it's like, JK Zero, he served in the Pacific.

I don't know. That's a terrible example. But the point is that to be the number so we can be wrong in order. Closest to the pin, basically. So yeah, email us those things. And then Burnbook, always hard in week one. I think the hardest. Because I think is the goal with week one that you don't want to pick somebody who will turn it around.

No, you're picking people. Like, you're not picking E. Brown. You're not picking, you're like, oh, AJ Brown of the Burnbook. No, you're not actually mad at AJ Brown today. You're not going to be. I think the burn book is permanent. You know what I mean? Yeah. This is a player that you're like not going to you're doing this to save you from yourself. I don't want to ever put this guy in my starting lineup again. So with that said, yeah,

I have someone. It's harsh. I have someone also. It's harsh. This is like a little unprofessional. Okay. But I fucking have Xavier Worthy in the Burnbook. I know that's a little rude to do that to someone who got hurt. But you got hurt on the third play of the season. What's the with the Chiefs? He got hurting themselves. Literally, Rishi Rice is suspended.

Xavier Worthy is the best situation of his career. He gets hurt in the third play of the game. Travis Kelsey heard him. Dude, Xavier Worthy was on his way to having 16 targets. Instead, Hollywood Brown got 16 targets in this game. You know my opinion on skinny players. I don't do it. When a skinny player gets hurt and you feel stupid.

I have to admit. You draft Xavier Worthy. You're like, who cares? He's so fast. Then he'll touch him. Travis Kelsey runs into him. Xavier Worthy hurts his shoulder. And then like now he's going to come. He's either out for the season and get surgery or what?

He's going to come back with the shoulder brace. So he can get hurt again? I'm done. I'm so upset. Well, I don't know if we can burn him because, I mean, if he's out for the year, okay. Yeah, that doesn't really fucking math. I don't know.

Can I fire in rage? What do you want me to say? I want to throw out a different chief. Third play of the game. I'm mad at myself. for buying into and or touting Isaiah Pacheco. So much for fucking that.

This is a good one. The way he runs is like now the tuxedo seem kind of fucked up. I always didn't like that. But I was like he's going to be the leadback in a good offense and he's going to get the goal line carries and all that. Nope.

Five rushes for 25 yards, three targets, two catches, three yards. He only played 48% of snaps. He only ran. 29% of the rushes for this team. Basically what they were doing was Pacheco on first down, and this is like a gross over simplification, but Pacheco on first down,

Richard Smith on second down, and Kareem Hunt on third down. This is a three-man backfield, and Pacheco is probably the worst of them, at least like in terms of getting the most valuable touches. And then Mahomes ran into the touchdown. Yeah, he only had 33% of the goal line snaps. He's not getting third down snaps.

Where are his points going to come from? I'm very worried, because I drafted him in several leagues. And now I'm like, I don't think I can play him. If you're losing time to Kareem Hunt, you suck. Yeah, that's the way you put it like that. Yeah. Anyway, I'm just like, that's pretty good.

The reason I throw that out there is like, I got to save myself from myself. I can't put him back in my story. I don't know if Kreme Hunt would be signed by another NFL team. Maybe the Texans, but like, even that. He wasn't. He was on his couch. I know.

I'm saying the chiefs cut him. I think Kreme's hunt out of the league. Yeah. I would just like to once again nominate Jalen Waddle as his tradition to start the year. I'm just like, it's the same bullshit. He like hurt his arm.

It looked like he dislocated his shoulder and then like, of course, a minute later, he's back. I'm like, fuck this. I'm exhausted. I can't do any of it. I hate myself for having him in one of my leagues. I don't know why I did it. He was $5 and I bit and I shouldn't have.

Yeah. But I also hate Isaiah but Jail to. Waddle, because the way Craig reacted with his hands. Yeah, Craig's was more genuine. That's what the bird is well. That, yeah, Jalen Woll.

At least if you have Isaiah Bichiegel, you're like, I have a guy with Patrick Mahomes, I'm on the Chiefs, maybe something good. I'm like, the dolphins are a fake team. Oh, yeah. I think I I agree with that. All right, Jalen Waddle, you're burned. Cool. It's the Jalen Waddle

burn book. It is. As soon as it's going to be two receivers for Jail Wendell. He took the mantle. Who was the original like Cow Pits? Kyle Pitts. Yeah. The legend. He's back, though.

Goat. He's back. He's great now. Yeah. Jell and Wattle, you're burned. All right. Thank you for listening.

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get the fucking Steeler's hat out again How's this look? You look so much worse It looks so stupid Sometimes these hats are fucking crazy Who's like who are these four? Why are you blaming the hat? Well you know I

No I agree with that 100% What is the problem? Giant flat bill Like who is who is Hats truly come in all shapes and sizes I look like a six year old Look at me The design is really cool

It's just a big hat on my head I'm gonna wear it every time they win I'll tell you that I'm gonna wear it every time they win Thank you Lord Lord Thank you sublime Oh hell yeah

Way back track Me and this hat I look like a guy who likes sublime Do you? Yeah You look like a guy Who's like waiting for your dad to pick you up from

like practice. Yeah. I don't practice centauria. I ain't got no crystal ball. Yeah. Hyvitz, do you know who Sublime is? I'm not sure you do.

You ain't got no crystal ball. No, no, nah, I'm telling them. Okay, but I do know the word. Yeah.

God damn it. Yeah, if I had a million dollars, yeah. Yeah. Spend it all. That's cool. Sublime was one of my favorite bands

when I was in like high school. Yeah. That makes sense. California and whatnot. No, I really love Splime. I was wearing hats like this. I was. That sounds like,

that's one of those things that's both inspiring and sounds like a dig. I liked it when I was nine. Imagine pouring your heart and soul into a song. When I was nine, no,

I liked them when I was in high school. What are you talking about? Oh, okay. That's true. I'm just thinking about how I love like Lincoln Park. I still listen to now. He still celebrates their entire catalog.

Oh, I love Sublime. Like, if they're on in a bar, I'm having a blast. I actually just heard Santeria recently. I think this weekend and I loved it. What I got is one of my favorite songs. I think Sublime's an example of a band where I'm like,

I actually know a lot of their music, but I couldn't name any of the songs. Yeah. Like I never would have been like, oh, yes, Santaria by Sublime, but now I'm like, okay, I think I know most of the words at the beginning of the song. Shouts out Long Beach, LBC.

DK., what's your favorite Sublime song? Probably Santoria. It's one of the others. What I got, Craig was just singing that. Doing time is good. I love April 29th, 1992. That song's cool.

Craig, should you make your like a high school, Craig? Should we all make those little songs we listen to at high school

and put that as a Spotify playlist? She can meet Tipo. It's just all Sean Kingston. Lil Wayne. Very way to be, no, I'm not going to say.

Modest mouse. Yeah. Motest mouse. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Modic mouse. What were those YouTube videos

that mashups? Oh yeah. The United States of Pop. Oh, yeah. DJ Airworm. Craig, remember, caress me down? Yeah, a great song. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do.

See, I have no idea that is. Is that, is that? Dun, don, don, don't, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Much go so. Yeah. I'm hornyer than Ron Jeremy. I didn't know who that was for the longest time knowing that song. I was like, Ron Jerer.

I guess so by your things in Spanish. They sing in Spanish a lot, too. I do Ron Jeremy from rap lyrics and all these lyrics way before I had any clue the fuck Ron Jeremy was. Totally. Emails at Ringerfinity Football at gmail.com. If you also, like, found out who Ron Jeremy was like years after you heard about him in song. This is worse. Now the hat looks terrible.

That looks fine. No, we'll get to fix the strap. So much room in that hat. A 10-gallon hat. There's just so much. room in there. Goodbye, everyone. Who's this for?

Only idiot men like us could have this much fun with a hat. I'm like, I could put it this way. And we're like, ha, huh? All right, now, goodbye. Must be 21 plus in present in select states for Kansas

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