The Ringer NFL Show - Week 1 Recap: Football Is Back

Episode Date: September 9, 2024

The guys recap all the action by going through some categories, such as “Fraud Watch,” “Play of the Day” and “Fart or Shart” (0:44). Then, they add a name to the Fantasy Burn Book (1:19:43). Who won Week 1? (6:18) Who lost Week 1? (13:24) The Oppenheimer Award (29:23) It’s So Over/We’re So Back (35:03) Play of the Day (43:38) They're Real and They're Spectacular (48:10) Fart or Shart (52:52) Arthur Smith Award (56:11) Fraud Watch (1:00:58) Lucille Bluth Award (1:00:58) Intrusive Thoughts (1:10:34) Post-Nut Clarity (1:17:40) Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producers: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Week one is almost in the books. There's one more game, but for our purposes, week ones in the books, basically, we just watched Lions beat the Rams in overtime in week one, Sunday in football. We're going to go through all the games. Craig, do you think Rams Lions, is this the best non-divisional rivalry in the NFL rating? It's up there. It might be number one. The Burrough versus Mahomes thing, did they play last year?

I can't remember. Did the Bengals beat the Chiefs last year? I don't think they did. I feel like that was two years ago. It's been a minute. For my money right now, the Stafford, the Detroit thing is awesome and the golf, LA thing.

Because it goes both ways, it's so great. Like, the Chiefs, Bengals thing is just like, Burrough tends to beat the Chiefs and nobody else can. There's so much more personal drama in the Lions Rams thing. That's why I actually love both teams so much.

I think they both have awesome vibes, and it sucks that one has to lose. And now, poor, my sweet Sean McVeigh, has lost twice now in his last two games versus the Lions. Bengals did lose to the Chiefs last New Year's Eve. Oh, the Bengals lost. Yeah. But the Bengals are the only non-Tom Brady team to beat the Chiefs in the playoffs, so they just have that.

And remember Zach Wilson beat the Chiefs that one time? Well, yeah, well, yeah, it's kind of funny that he's just going to be able to die on that forever. D.K., who do you root for in these matchups? Because I think it's so, it is such an interesting thing that now the Lions have beaten the Rams twice this year, but the Rams will always have just won a Super Bowl of Stafford. Like he was their mistress. They died. You know, they took him out of Cancun and they, you know, they were cheating with him.

And then they arranged the whole trade. But now like Goff and the lines were just like a revenge hookup. And now it's just like a funny, like weird, awkward. I don't know. I find myself locking in on Goff and McVeigh meeting at midfield after every one of these games. Did we see that? Did that happen? I didn't see that on the, as the game ended.

I don't, they didn't show up. I was like, I was looking for it. First of all, I never root for the Rams ever. I could ever do that. I'm a Seahawks fan, and they have brought me so much pain in my life. What if you had Cooper Cup on your fantasy team and you were down like 15? I will root for individual players. Okay.

What if he needed to catch a touchdown for the Rams to win and also for your fantasy team to win? By the way, Cooper Cup looked amazing. Career high catches today. Let that sink in. Let that sink in. Career high and catches. Dude, thank God, because we said he'd be fine. I was a little nervous.

Yeah, and Pooka and Kua, our boy, they massacred our boy. He's already hurt, unfortunately. There can only be one. I really hope it's not a season-endor, but he tried to come back in, and then it was like, no, I can't run, and then he left for the rest of the game. So hopefully that's not like a long-term injury, but the good news is Cooper Cup looks like his old self. Stafford made some incredible throws.

Another no look throw. These teams are just so fun to watch. There's so many fun players on each of these teams. So this is a great game. a hell of a weekend of football, really fun matchups too. Yeah, I felt like this weekend was like the running back weekend. I feel like the passing was way down,

super sloppy week one. Teams are just handing the ball off and running backs were running wild. The entire overtime drive for the Lions was just David Montgomery for 70 yards, basically. Craig, there was two two quarterbacks threw for over 300 yards this week. There's one game left.

Two quarterbacks. And like 10, through for under 200 yards. Yeah, like a lot. I think the average, I saw someone tweet this, the average was like 185 yards per quarterback this week. Offense stinks again.

I feel like we're in a weird thing where offenses in the first week, another moment that's that we need is that the first week or two of the season, passing is so rhythm-based that when these guys don't go out and play in the preseason, we kind of forget that there is a real rust in passing and

coaches know that. So they really rely on the running game in the first week or two. And I feel like every year we forget that. Yeah. But like last year, I think Mack Jones was the number two quarterback in the week two and Lamar Jackson was like the 30th best quarterback. And then Lamar won the MVP and Mac Jones was like banished to Jacksonville for his sixth round pick by the end of the year. That's why week one's the best. It's the overreaction week. I think it is the most fun fantasy football week of the year. It is the best because you forget that some things you've seen season long trends and you already know everything you need to

know about a situation. And then other times you forget, it's just one week and random shit happens every week, but this is the one where you don't know what's what. So with that said, we're going to go through a bunch of categories today. And again, if you've been with us for years, wonderful. If you're with us for the first time this season, we're doing these episodes every Sunday. Monday waivers trivia. Wednesday power hour, Friday recap for the, we're pre-capped for the weekends. Also, if you know that Monday, emails trivia for waivers at ringer fancy football,

gmail.com. And we're going to be going through categories every Sunday night here. and we're going to do a little thing where email us next Sunday, just letting you know, you can email us your thoughts on the categories and then future Sundays for the rest of the season. We're going to read people's emails from Sunday on the Sunday show. So you guys can participate. We're going to have a couple we read during the episode.

You've got to come with your best takes. Yeah, we're going to do the same categories every week. So hopefully you'll get to know them, you'll remember them, and then you can email us your ideas for categories. And we're going to insert, I think, two. Every week. Kind of like a daily double in Jeopardy. You don't know where it's going to pop up.

We're going to pick the best two and slot them in during every Sunday show. So let's just start off the bat here. DK, who won week one? I think it's Josh Allen. Oh. I think just the maniac way that he plays football, it was like such a refreshing, like, oh, yeah, that's the shit. Like, I forgot about how fun this is.

He just absolutely has no guardrails with the way he plays. You know what I mean? Like, he plays like every play is the defining play of the game. And I just love that about him. He scored four touchdowns, two passing, two rushing, 31 fantasy points. I saw this stat. This is pretty amazing. This was his fourth game with multiple passing and rushing touchdowns and tied Steve Young

for the most all time that's done that. Wow. Steve Young and Josh Allen are the only two that have done that multiple times. Can I give you one other stat I saw about Josh Al today? I couldn't believe. He's only 10 touchdowns behind Thurman Thomas. for the career record for a Buffalo bill. What the hell?

What is he 28? He's 27, I think. Yeah, something like that. He's young. Yeah, no, I think I totally agree. What you just said, though, about how he plays with every play. You know, they're bringing backyard.

I don't know if you'd never play this, D.K., but they used to have the backyard baseball, backyard football, and that come, they're bringing him back. If Josh Allen's not on the cover of backyard football, they screwed up because he plays, he plays like a kid still. In, like, all the best ways.

but like, I mean, I do think that Stafford played great tonight even though they lost, but I don't think any player in any game all weekend instead of maybe Lamar was as important to the team as Josh was today. He somehow threw like, he had like two passes in the first 28 minutes of that game, like two or three throws.

And they were down like 14 points. Yep. And the bills ended up coming back 34 to 28. Yeah. It was either 17-0 or 17-3. And I remember... Yeah. I remember writing down bills uh-oh and I was like oh Josh Allen has to like Josh Allen has to be the most Josh Allenie this year because it feels like now with digs gone he doesn't have that like security blanket Stafford to cup when it's third and six and now Josh Allen is like well third and six I'm just going to run it his second rushing touchdown was fucking crazy he like helicoptered past the goal line

Craig this is the I saw a funny beam on on Twitter today is like you know the you know the picture of Ralph Wiggum from The Simpsons just diving through the window. It was like, this is from Ben Houselog. He goes, James Cook. Hey, Josh, we're on the goal line. Do you think I can get the ball? And that's just Josh Allen diving through the window, like headfirst.

Yeah, more so than ever this year, Josh Allen's like, I'm just going to do it all myself. We need to make that video of Josh Allen as the Bannon Brothers guy who just was like, what if we just run through the occupied town? They're like, you can't. The Nazis are all there. It just runs through the fucking town.

I'll just run fast. The defenders are so confused. They just don't tackle him. Oh, my God. Craig, who won week one? Joe Mixon, man. The Texans beat the Colts 2927. It's a great game.

Mixon led the league in touches. Touched about 33 times today. Mixon was just like, you know, we didn't know, getting older, switching teams, running back. It was kind of going in that like middle range for running backs. Missed the first like 10 days of practice for the Texans. He had like an injury, yeah. Yeah, and he just exploded.

He had 170 yards in a touchdown. Looked awesome. Team ran the ball a ton, which the Texans were balanced last year. It looks like they're going to be balanced again this year. Stroud was getting pressure the whole game, and they just kept going back to Mixon, and he kept ripping off great runs. He looks, I mean, right now,

he looks like a top 10 guy rest of the season, and this is like an immediate, oh shit. Joe Mixon looks the best he's ever looked. Yeah, I should have ranked him higher. He had 33 touches. Yeah. The next closest player on the team was Damien Pierce with three. Or sorry, next closest running back.

So they absolutely just leaned on him so hard. And Craig, you're right. He looked really explosive. You know, I threw out some stats the other day where it's like basically if you look at the last couple of years of his tenure in Cincinnati, he was very average and broken tackles and explosive play rate and all that stuff. Man, he didn't look like it today.

He looked really great. He's like perfect for the scheme that they run. I saw a stat that was like, I don't know, 90% of the runs that he had today were an outside zone. And that was just like, he just feels that so well. He's so good at it in picking his rushing lanes that maybe this is like the perfect mix of scheme

and talent and volume that we're seeing. So, you know, if he can stay healthy, he absolutely could be like a steal in drafts. I don't want to say you guys are wrong, but my winner is definitely going to be Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys. Dak Prescott signed a contract

for a quarter of a billion dollars. He made all the money. $60 million a year for Dak Prescott. That's cool. And then also, then the Cowboys went and throttled the Browns. 33 to 17. Honestly,

it wasn't even that close. It was, it was not a big, it was a non-competitive game, basically throughout the Browns scored some points of garbage. The Browns had one first down on the first half. Yeah, it was actually non-competitive.

But the Browns, look, the Browns, sorry, the Cowboys just, it has been all doom and gloom about the Cowboys all season, including by me,

like everyone's saying, what about the Cowboys, the direction list. Jerry doesn't know what he's doing. We should put Jerry in the Ocean's 11, vault, including other things I said about Jerry Jones that I won't be here. His kids should do things to him. His kids should kill him or whatever I said. I just, I'm not saying they should. I'm just saying, I bet they thought about it. And like the, but I feel like if you're a Cowboys fan, you have

to be thrilled today because it's like, I don't know how the Cowboys could have played that much better. It's everything you wanted to see from Mike Zimmer on defense, the defense of court. It's like, the Browns of Miles Garrett and they were going against, you know, rookie left tackle for the Cowboys. and I was like a little worried about that. Guess what? That was fine. They schemed all around that on offense with Mike McCarthy. But on defense, Michael Parsons was destroying the Brown's offensive line.

Every play, the whole defense was incredible. And then on offense, Dax, C, D, C, D. It looked like he missed a month. I don't know what you wanted to see from Cowboys today. That wasn't there. I didn't want to see Zeeke wearing 15. That's not right. We should, no, here's the deal with the players and the numbers.

I feel like fans should be able to veto. Like, you know what I mean? Sure. You don't veto the numbers? I think if you're above a certain age, your number has to be higher than a certain amount. I think if you are running back and you are north of 27, you got to be in the 20s.

That's the rule. You can't be in the teens. You can't be in the teens. You can't be sub 10. You got to be 28. You got to be your age. Maybe you have to be your age. Yeah, because Belichick, that's too low.

That's like, you know, a quarter of your age. That's too low. Yeah. Zeke should be wearing 43. Did you think he looked in today, by the way? I don't know. Not really.

It looks fine. Maybe it's 15 because that's the miles per hour. Zeke can run these days. Yeah, that's good. PMBH. Okay. Way more fun. Who lost week one?

So many choices. I mean, you were just talking about Joe Mixing Crack. I think it's the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, weird that you would think that. Yeah. How about, so it's who lost the week, the Bengals and also everybody in their survivor pools who picked the Bengals. Yeah.

I will say, I mean, this is easy now. Why did people take the Cincinnati Bengals in a survivor pool when T. Higgins was not going to play? And Jamar Chase was like, I have food poisoning. Yeah. I don't know. To be honest, it was a tough week. I am in a survivor pool and I would say 75% of people picked the Bengals. And it was because there were no huge spreads this week.

They were the biggest spread of the week. Everything was within three, four points. And actually, when you tried to pick it, I picked the Seahawks over the Broncos, but I was nervous about that. But in general, it wasn't the easiest week survivor. That's true,

because I also just thought Seattle was a better pick because Bo Nix was first. But then they gave up, dude, I don't know if anyone has this, but like the two fucking safeties in the first half for the Seahawks. I've never seen anything like that in my life. Oh, I have that all right.

That was insane. Anyway, but I thought the Bengals was pathetic because of all the teams who looked awful today, of which there were a couple other ones. But only the Bengals actually fancy themselves like a Super Bowl contender. And like to come out and lose 16 to 10 to New England, I just thought it was abominable.

And there were like a bunch of just part, I don't know. The Bengals lost two fumbles last season. They lost two fumbles today. Dude, they were at home and they lost the Patriots. They put up 10 points. Burrow had 160 yards. He had eight fantasy points.

It's the fifth worst game of his career. The only team, Cincinnati was the only team with no points at halftime in the entire 1 p.m. window. And I got the stat from Ben Baby to SB. The Bengals haven't scored a touchdown in the first half of week one since Jamar Chase's first career touchdown three years ago. It does feel like they start slow. Burrow is 6, 8, and 1 in September in his career.

Because he's always hurt in the preseason. Yeah. You know what's wild about how, how poorly Burrow played, 10 quarterbacks threw for fewer yards than him. Really? 10? Yeah, 164 yards.

10 starting quarterbacks through for fewer yards than Joe Burrow today. The fuck is going on out there. Today was messy. Jacoby Brissette threw for 121 yards. And they won. We did this last year. I remember we had a lot of jokes about

about quarterbacks throwing for 110 yards. Burrow threw 21 of 29 passes for 164 yards. Three. three of Joe Burroughs passes went more than seven yards downfield of his first 20. Three of his first 20 went more than seven yards downfield. Completed one.

Part of that, I mean, part of that I do think is I think Joe Burroughs' wrists and all the stuff is being underreported. I do think generally, though, that there's just not that much confidence from teams in the timing of routes and early in season. They think of it as preseason.

I don't know. I mean, look at the Rams tonight. Like, they didn't go out in preseason. They started like a mess. Craig, who do you think of Lost Week one? For fantasy only, generational rookies. Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison. It was really tough for those two guys.

I don't think of this will have anything to do with their long-term careers or anything like that. The Bears actually won. They beat the Titans 24-17 despite having less than 150 yards of offense, which is like insane. Caleb Williams had 90 yards and zero touchdowns. And generally looked quite, you know, a little bit frazzled out there. He looked terrible. You don't have to sugarcoat it.

He looked really, really bad. He looked frazzled. Yeah. He was way more inaccurate than I was expecting. Like I expected rookie struggles. Caleb? Yeah, Caleb Williams. You're reading like the defense for the first time.

Everything is so much faster, blah, blah, blah. But man, he was just like missing everything. All of his throws felt rushed. His footwork was awful. So that was very discouraging. Craig, you mentioned they did win. He was the first number one overall pick to start. I saw this from ESPN to start and win a game at quarterback.

since David Carr in 2002. How is it possible? That's insane. There's only been like forever. All those teams fucking suck. And you know what? Caleb always fucking sucked too. He had 93 yards.

They won because there were no offense touchdowns in this game. Yeah. The Bears scored a touch. Simone Biles' husband scored a touchdown on what was the the blocked punt. And then they had the pick six. Dude, that Will Levis.

I think that was the most Carson Wentz play I've ever seen by someone that wasn't Carson Wentz. when Will Levis mid-sac tossed the ball to a defender, realized what he did in Surinda Cropod while he was, that was so good. Solac was calling for the, he wanted the still photo of that. Will Levis to sit in their hands on his head just like watching this guy pick six return? Levis is chaos.

Levis is like the college girlfriend. You're like, I know I'm not going to marry this girl, but it'll be a fun year. God damn, right. Levis, I don't think he looks good. What are you talking about? He didn't look good. It's frisky, though. Sometimes it looks awesome.

Other times it's a complete mess. He's not saying it's good. He's saying it's never been boring. Yeah. It's provocative. I feel alive for the first time and forever. I've never watched Will Levis drop back and been like bored. I'm going to look at my phone.

Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, that was tough with Caleb Williams for sure. And then continuing, Marvin Harrison, you know, the Cardinals lost to the bills by six. Marvin Harrison had one catch for four yards. He got 9% of the team's targets. I mean, the Cardinals scored 28 points.

They threw the ball a lot. And Marvin Harrison Jr. was just out there running winsprints. There was a picture at the very end of the last play of the game. They threw, Kyler threw like a sort of just a Hail Mary up for grabs ball to Greg Dorch, who's five foot four. Yeah, that was the last play of the game. And meanwhile, on the other side of the field, Marvin Harrison is like 30 yards away from any defender just wide open. He should have had the game-winning touchdown.

That wasn't the same play, right? Yes. That was the different play. That was the end of game, hell, man. I don't think so. Yeah. I think that was a different play. That would be fucking crazy.

No, the one more Marr. That would be leading every, no. First of it was bad enough that on fourth and six, they're like, we're going to throw 30 yards down field jump ball to Greg Dorch, who's the shortest receiver in the NFL. It was third in 10. I had, coming up, we have the worst call of the week. Or I guess that's for, no, we have the Arthur Smith Award for the coaching that pissed you off.

It was third in 10, 30 seconds left. The Cardinals run the ball with James Connor for four yards. call a timeout, and then it's fourth and six, and they chuck a go ball to Greg Dorsey's five foot six, double covered. Game over. I will say he almost got open and he probably should have had a PI, and it's one of those worth because it was fourth down.

I feel like they didn't give him the PI, but it was second down, they might have given him the PI. Having said that, bad plan. What are you doing? But yeah, extremely tough for these two guys. Hyphids, who lost the week for you? Well, wait, before we move on, while we're on the Cardinals,

I have to say, for years and years now, we've done two tight ends who outscored Kyle Pitts in a lie. But you know what, Kyle Pitts, he scored a touchdown today. He was like the third best tight end entering Sunday Night Football. And so I wanted to give Kyle Pitts a break this week. But I would like to play with you guys. My new favorite game, two rookie receivers who outscored Marvin Harrison Jr. and one lie. Okay.

Are you guys ready for this? You guys fucking ready. And D.K., if you know him off the jump, I don't choose. I really, we're going to get Craig. There's no chance. Craig knows the shit. No, yeah, you'll get me. Three, two receivers who outscored Marvin Harrison,

two rookie receivers who outscored Marvin Harrison Jr. And a lie. Mason Tipton. Eric Bifumo, Devon Ville. Eric Bafumo? Devon Ville is real. I know that.

Mason Tiptin. Eric Bufumo, Devon Ville. I think Mason Tipton is fake. I think Eric to Vibumo or whatever you said was fake. Mason Tipton is real. Mason Tipton's on the Saints. Yeah.

Eric Bufumo is the boom boom Costco guy. Oh, that's that guy's name? Yeah. I was like, I've never heard. Is that guy a Steelers fan? I saw him in a video today.

He gave the Steelers win a boom. He gave him a boom? Yeah, he did. Really? Yeah. I'd like to take him to take Russell Wilson at Costco. Yeah. Yeah, this is a horrific start for all the Marvin Harrison people.

This is going to be tough to bounce back next week. Oh, my God. It's almost like it's a rookie receiver. All right. I can't believe. So first of all, you never asked me who the biggest loser was. And I can't believe you guys didn't mention these two. Like, it's actually galling.

I'm aghast right now because you didn't mention Deshaun Watson for the Browns who looked like the worst quarterback in the world. But like, he always looks like that. Well, he still sucks. is every week. Okay, hold on. I want to do this because I think in a transitive property, this also makes Baker Mayfield one of the biggest winners of the week. Deshaun Watson of the Browns and Bryce Young of the Panthers

had two of the worst quarterbacking days I've ever seen in my life. And both teams could have just had Baker Mayfield, who threw four touchdowns. The Browns moved off from Mayfield. And I think this is also like one of the funniest storylines that people don't really talk about that much when it comes to like the Bryce Young colossal, the worst trade of all time. like they not in addition to giving up the multiple first round picks,

one of which became Caleb Williams, one of the best quarterback prospects we've ever seen. They also just had Baker Mayfield on the roster in 2022 and cut him. They got him. They got him. And now he's like a pretty good starter. Also, I think this is pretty indicative that maybe Dave Cadillis wasn't actually a quarterback whisper. And Baker Mayfield, the former first overall picks is actually just kind of good.

You know who the other quarterback on that roster was? Sam Darnold who completed his first 12 fastest thing. Yes. Maybe it's the fucking Panthers. The Panthers, this is the worst run for any professional franchise I've ever heard of. Like the worst, just like cascading series of events.

Like, I can't imagine how bad it is for Panthers. I totally agree. So the, I think the Panthers, this was the least competitive game any team might have all year. They looked awful. And they played the Saints. They lost 47 to 10. It was 30 to 3 at halftime. the three came as time expired.

It was 33. They kicked a field goal down 30 seconds, down 30 in the first half, just to say they didn't get shut out. Just get on the board. Think about it this way. Remember when David Tepper threw the drink at the fan because he was so mad about losing to see J. Stroud and realizing that like Bryce Young was a mistake

and like right in the last game of the season? They had nine months to figure out, nine months to figure out, what are we going to do with Bryce Young this year? and his first pass of the season gets intercepted. That's tough. Can you imagine being David Depper watching this game at his first pass? And you're like, all right, we're going to half time. We're going to buckle down.

And his second pass at the second half gets intercepted. And it was a bad one. There was a great clip on Twitter of Alvin Camara coming around the side on a run. And three Panthers players on defense all trip over one another and just all fall down at the same time as Camer. just like strolls up the sideline. It's got to be so hard to feel hope right now. For the Panthers. Here's the crazy thing.

The only situation I'd even listen to as he's being worse than Carolina is the Browns. Because the Browns also awful. But here's the thing. Carolina is a way worse team than Cleveland. But the Browns are more committed to Deshaun Watson than any player in the NFL. This is not hyperbole. They just like, didn't they renegotiate his contract to it? Yeah.

Watson's deal, but it's not the way that Watson's deal is unlike any of their deal when they're like, oh yeah, we're doing all this. That usually means they double down. That's not with the point. They already owe him all the money. I mean this when I say it. This is actual math. The chiefs could cut Patrick Mahomes and it would not cost them as much money as if the Browns would cost to cut Deshawn Watson. They are more committed to Deshawn Watson than anybody. He will be on that contract till 2027. No one's taking the contract. Deshawn Watson will be on the Browns till 2027. Rice Young might not be on the Panthers in like two months. Like that is kind of insane when you watch Deshaun Watson play and think about how he's going to be on this team for three more years. 169 yards passing on 45 attempts. That's so low. Every time I looked up at this game, he was like chucking a ball into the stands. He was so inaccurate.

It's unbelievable how bad he was missing on these deep throws. And by the way, remember, this is a guy who was sitting out practice because of general arm soreness like a couple weeks ago. It's not getting any better. I don't think the bike of parts is drilling them to the turf help the general arms so bad.

What's above general? Like master chief arm soreness? I don't know. Oh my God. It was so bad. Three, four, and eight yards per attempt. I have one other loser week one. The cops who detained Tyree Kill.

One of them just went on administrative leave, I believe. Yeah, I'd, um, tough day. for those guys. That was, I actually think today between was the craziest. I would argue it was a tough day for Tyreek more than it was. That's true. But yeah, I didn't know what took.

I wasn't going to call Tyreek a winner because he got arrested. But Tyreek Hill coming out, get the Scotty Schephler. Then he goes out, seven catches, 130 yards. Has the, was that the longest touchdown of his career? Yeah, 80 yard touchdown. Dolphins with 2017. Tyreek, they do the him getting arrested celebration. Honestly, great celebration.

He should do that the whole year. Was that a lottle? helping him out of it. Yeah. I don't know who. That's great. It was pretty good. Also, I have to, did you, did you guys, you guys don't watch pregame shows because you're in the West Coast?

So they brought out sweaty ass true Rosenhaus who've been running around in Miami with, first all, Jeff Darland. Rosenhaus got there fast. He was in the car. Oh, he was driving there with him. Okay. Rosenhouse saying that Tyrico wants to be a cop one day was the funniest part of the day. Yes.

What was that? What was that? He was just like apparently telling the cop, I love law enforcement. I respect law enforcement. I would like to be a police officer one day. And I was like, what the fuck? Oh, God. What a weird thing to say.

I love the idea of getting arrested and saying, I want to have your job. Wait, what are you like, Shaq? You're going to be deputized as a sheriff for a commercial? I thought that was strange. I wasn't sure if people had caught that or if it had gone around or was going to be lost. Yeah, it didn't make the rounds as much as it should have.

but yeah, Tyrone House was like, yeah, Tyree told him I would love to be in law enforcement one day. And I'm like, I don't think that's going to happen, bud. I don't know. Anyway, the other thing that I just, Jeff Darlington, who was like, he is like the Miami guy for ESPN, was the guy at the Scotty Shepler arrest,

which is also fucking weird. He was at the gate. Dude, is Darlington setting these up? Calls come from inside the house. Yeah. He's behind this. Literally, what are the eyes? that there's like one, like two people in the world who actually were like,

that's so true. Wow. It's so weird that, like they go to Jeff Darlington and they're like, Jeff, you've been in this situation a lot. You know how they call like some lawyers like ambulance chasers? Yeah. Darlington's just, I don't know, sitting outside stadiums waiting for famous people to get to the stadium.

He's his own speakouts. It's like when celebrities call the paparazzi on themselves. That's Jeff Darlington. Yeah. It's like, Jeff, about to get pulled over. All right. The I Am Become Death Oppenheimer Award for the player who went nuclear. Craig.

What a great category, Nick. Yeah. I am become death. This is from Friday in Brazil, but my lord, Sequin Barclay. Sequin. Just absolutely erupted, Hyphitz. I debated making you the loser of the week. But, yeah, Seekwon looked as good as he ever, he has ever looked.

It's crazy to see what he could do behind him. a competent offensive line and a competent team surrounded by other talented players. He was phenomenal. He had three touchdowns. The look on hyphins his face for people that are not watching on video. He's just like the thousand yards stare, staring off into

the distance. Honestly, I'm just happy. Seekwan's happy. Yeah. That's where you have to be. That's where your headspace has to be right now. Yeah, Eagles 1.34. to 29.

132 yards. Number one running back in fantasy this week. Three touchdowns. You know how many touchdowns the Giants scored? Zero? Fucking zero.

Sounds right. Yeah. Giants are awful at scoring touchdowns. You know what? And it does seem like he is the I am become death of fantasy now

because it's like going forward to me he's right in the mix with McCaffrey and all the, like he is right there. It's funny. I feel like, like, I think we, we had Sequin pretty highly ranked.

There were a lot of places that are pretty down on Sequin. And if any, we could have had him higher. We didn't talk about him for the last few weeks. It's kind of a glanceburg, weirdly.

It was painful for me. I think we talked about him four episodes in a row in the beginning of August. And I was like, I should probably talk about Sequan less. And then we kind of didn't, like get back to it.

But I think the argument for Seekwan was like, well, you know, what if the Eagles, the Tush push, Jalen hurts. What if he takes the goal line touchdowns?

And then also, check down to Sequin. And in retrospect, it's like, they're going to design a whole screen game for him for the passing game. And you know what? I think the question we didn't ask enough was, what if Saquan takes the fucking touchdowns

from Jalen Hertz? And I think if you could watch that game back, you'd be like you'd move Jalen Hertz down and Seekwin up. It really does seem like the Eagles are not that interested in running Jalen Hertz. Yeah. You know?

Bill Barnwell was on to the beginning. He looks kind of bad running lately. He does. What's going on with that? Eagles are just, the vibes are there are still kind of weird. I don't know what's up with Hertz. Hertz kind of looks like.

like he's running in slow motion. He does. Hertz has like a very, I don't know, like, I don't know what the technical word is. You know in Dom and Dumber when Jim Carrey's like running in the truck, he's like moving his hands really fast. He's like, it feels like you're running at an incredible pace, Harry. Like that's how Jalen Hertz runs.

I don't know. Like he just moves his hands really like. You know what? It's like Mahomes looks like. Mahomes looks like he's going slow, but he's outrunning everyone. And it hurts looks like he's trying really hard, but he's actually going really slow. It's very robotic.

He runs like the Terminator. That's right. Okay, thank you. That's a good one. Yeah, that's how I was looking forward. Robotic is exactly the right word. It's like he's thinking about his form. I got to move my hands.

It's like how I run when I'm dreaming. Yeah, he's like left arm forward, right leg forward. Right arm forward, left leg forward. But it used to be so fast. Now I feel like for whatever reason, injuries maybe have cut up to him. It's because he's too focused on the tush push. He's squatting so much that he's so slow now.

He's legs are too. shoving on his ass is fucked up his fucking butt. Too much torque. Yeah. Maybe everyone moved his legs out of order. You know what I mean? D.K., who do you, um, did you're Oppenheimer player who went nuclear?

I had Sequin and then Joe Mixon's, who we've already discussed. Actually, just scary amounts of production for both of those guys. If you didn't get them, could be trouble. If, all right, so the might for just,

I am become death. Shout up Chris Boswell, the kicker for the skewits. Oh, hell yeah. number one kicker in fantasy for the week. First kicker in Steelers history with three different 50-yard kicks in the same game.

Wow. Five field goals. Steelers won 18 to 10 over the Falcons. Steelers did not score a touchdown. All Chris Boswell points. Won them the game and the Steelers punter got hurt. So Chris Boswell punted.

So he scored all the Steelers points, and he punted. Let me tell you, Steelers fans, we've been new about Chris Boswell. Boswell has been the best player. and the Steelers offense since 2020.

He is the most reliable player in the offense. That is such a brutal thing to say. I also feel like we had a very large conversation last year that like stayed in our imagination of just like when a punt, like last year a kicker got hurt

and the like a linebacker filled in and we're like, why the fuck can't the punters kick? Like just let the punters kick. And everyone was like, oh well, it's a different motion. The punters are holding. It's like, find somebody else to hold. These guys have, World-class legs.

I know. Well, the punters get hurt. The kickers can punt. It's just the punters who can't kick. That's clearly... It's like thumbs and fingers, yeah. God damn it. Kickers are fingers, but punters are thumbs.

Craig, you say that Boswell's your best offensive player, but holy shit. George Pickens is awesome. Yeah. Pickens, once again, he's been doing this. We just couldn't get him the damn ball. So it was nice that Fields actually, and we could design some plays for him to get them open and Fields actually put it in his lap. As usual, had a few incredible catches that didn't count.

Yeah. But overall, he had a pretty good game. He did. He was a great game. All right. Next up, a brilliant category that Craig has brought to us. It's So Over slash We're So Back. Yeah.

It could be, you know. No explanation needed. Everybody on Twitter. Everybody in life. Everybody knows what it's over. Everybody who has ever texted a friend about sports. Yeah. So, well, yeah.

You want a bad hair? Yeah, well, I could start. I'll do, we did talk about him briefly, but my we're so back is Cooper Cup. We're so back. Oh, yeah. We blocked out all the haters. We didn't listen to them. We kept working on the hammies, working on our pliability, eating well, 14 catches, 19 targets.

He's making blocks. He's running all over the place. I hate his beard, but he's the worst. He hasn't. I think he hasn't cut it. since the triple crown season, but we're back. We're so back.

His beard is like Brock Bowers' his hair where it's so bad. I'm convinced you're going to be amazing at football. Yeah. It's not shape. He just clearly don't think about anything. He needs to shape it. It can be big.

You just need to shape it a little bit. He hasn't touched that thing for years. Yeah. It's definitely cleaner than the James Hardin beard. Well, yeah. Cooper Cup. I don't think he has the same extracurricular. It was way better.

Yeah. Yeah. The Cooper Cup's beard. I can't believe. is a wife. He got the beard after he got the wife. Like, I understand why Hardin does not have a wife. Oh, yeah.

I don't think we ever said about a bond, but we had talked about how James Hardin's beard, you could do like an archaeological study by like era of like what city it was in. Carbon dating. Yeah, it should be like, his beard should be sent to the CDC. Yeah.

God. That thing's disgusting. Can one of these be both? Oh, yeah. You can each have one. You can have one. It's so over. We're so back.

Tight ends suck again. It's like welcome back to normalcy. Remember how earlier this offseason we're like, oh yeah, the tight end position solved. Yeah, fuck that. It's so over. We're so back because it's so over. Yeah. Okay.

I looked at the ADP for the top nine tight ends in drafts this year. The high, the most yards, any of those nine tight ends had, this year, or sorry, in week one, 45 yards. Sam LaPorta, four catches for 45 yards. That was the most yards any of the top nine tight ends got. McBride

was probably the best of that group. He had a 29% target rate, so I'm like, I'm feeling pretty good about him. In five points. Yeah, but it's like better than all these other guys. Kelsey, 15% target rate. Laporta, his was up over the 20s. That's good. Mark Andrews, 5%.

Cancade one catch for 11 yards. Kyle Pitts, 13% target rate. He saved it with a touchdown. But again, very disappointing. Evan Ingram, one catch for five yards. He had a bunch of targets. So that's, I guess, maybe promising going forward. Jake Ferguson, three catches for 15 yards.

He hurt his knee. He's probably going to be out a few weeks. Brock Bowers, by the way, was like the best of all of these. He had six catches for 58 yards, 26% target rate. And he was the 10th. He was the 10th tight end in ADP. It's funny because I feel like we were like, get a top seven tight end.

George Kettle isn't played yet, obviously. But it's like, I was like, yeah. And then I watched the early slate. And I'm like, Mark Andrews was just terrible on Thursday. And I'm like watching all these guys. I'm like, all these guys are terrible. I'm like, damn, maybe we should have waited on tight end. And then in the same game, David and Joku and Jake Ferguson go off with injuries.

Yeah. In the same game. And I realized, and then I check Evan Ingram with the catch. And I'm like, oh, my God, none of the top 10, literally none of the top 10 people made anyone happen this week. Yeah. It's going to be a frenzy for Isaiah likely on the waiver wire. I don't know if there's frenzy.

There's blood in the water. It's blood of the fucking water. My, it's so over. We're so back. There's no we're so back. It's just so over. Daniel Jones with the Giants, it's never been more over. It's never been.

It's the giants. It's so over. The Giants, this is the 100th season of the Giants as a franchise for selling. celebrating. Congratulations. Yeah, it's a funeral. It's like, it's the worst season. Maybe it should be the last season. It should be the last season of the New York Giants.

They should fold the Giants lost to the Vikings. I don't like say, can someone else say the score out loud? 28 to 6, which. To the Vikings at home. 286 to the Vikings at home celebrating their 100 season. Again, Sequin at three touchdowns, the Giants at zero. I think where I've I don't even know where to start

but like I don't where to start like a quarter into the game Dave all was actively trying to kill Daniel Jones he's like okay this isn't going to work let's just run him on a bunch of keepers there was like several designed runs where I'm like what are they doing

he's like so frail out there I know that he ran for a bunch of yards blah blah blah but like come on they're just trying to get they're trying to get him hurt is what's happening. My brother and I, we're sick of Giants fans,

and my brother and I have had a three-year argument about Daniel Jones. It's like politics. It's hard for us to talk about. And where he basically thinks... That's off the table. We're not talking about this thing. It's tough.

And it's like, he just thinks that I am disloyal. He thinks that I'm hard, blah, blah, blah. He thinks, you know, I've been killed by being an NFL media, blah, blah, blah. And I think he's a fucking... soft-hearted, you know, like, this guy sucks. Like, what the fuck you're talking about?

Yeah, wake up, she's. We've been arguing about this for three weeks, including a very, very long argument of this on Friday night. Very, very long. When Daniel Jones threw the pick six, five yards from the end zone to Andrew Vank, Inkel, the screen, that was a pick six, five seconds later, my brother texted me,

you were right, Daniel Jones sucks. I think that's the second. worst kind of pick six you can throw. I think the first one is the like shallow out route that the corner reads immediately and is like catching it at full speed already. And the second worst, though, is the screen that goes right into the edge rushers hands. That's the second worst way. I have no words other than like the playoff season's just blur because it was kind of fake

the whole time. But like it kind of, D.K., you said this to me the other day, like on the show and it hit me like an asteroid where you're like the entire time, Hyphitz has been doing this show with me. He's been rooting for the Giants to lose. Every year, it's like, God, we won again. We won some meaningless game. I just want them to lose all the games every single year since, like, 2016.

It really has, like, my entire professional career has been the Giants need a quarterback. It's just been Eli Manning and Daniel Jones. Well, you know what? This was a great week for you. The Patriots won and you lost. This is exactly what you need. It's just for the Panthers and the Giants racing for the number one pick. And they're, you know, well, I guess we'll get Quinn fucking Ewers

and it'll just be the new Daniel Jones or whatever. All right. Hold on. I got one more. You mentioned it. But we're so back. The Seahawks Circus. For the longest time, Pete Carroll, I called the Seahawks the circus.

And I would give like big top rankings for like every moment that happened during the Pete Carroll era. Like, you know, Earl Thomas is flipping off Pete Carroll as he gets carted off with a broken knee or whatever. We're like the Seahawks had two safeties in one quarter. I don't think I've ever seen that before. I'm sure it's happened maybe in like the 1950s or something. The Seahawks managed to get two safeties in the same quarter. We're so back. I love this.

It was absolutely ludicrous. It was ridiculous. They ended up winning so we can laugh about it. But who does that? Who gets two safeties? I would just like to say that I will not be addressing the Josh Palmer. It's so over allegations at this time. I'm taking some time away to be with my family,

with those close to me. So please, no comments at this time. No questions. We'll revisit this in the future. Play of the day, dude, the Anthony Richardson throw down. 100% where he slipped and then just threw it 65 yards for a touchdown was ridiculous. He let it, he dropped back.

This is something that's having a lot today. He dropped back, he slipped. And he kind of like backed up a little bit. and just threw it as hard as he could. And he let it go. I did the math. He let it go, and hopefully I got those math right.

Let it go from his own 32-yard line. It landed on the three-yard line. Yeah. Like in stride, Alec Pierce running full speed for a touchdown. I believe the math is 65 yards. I verbally got it. I verbally gasped when I saw that.

It was the third longest throw in the air since 2016. No way. Wow. The Ben Sol actually did that. Yeah. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah, and I remember the other throws.

What was the Herbert one? Oh, yeah, the Herbert one, yeah. 71. The Richardson throw is exactly what I thought I was capable of when I was like six years old. And I can't believe it's like that's like how far I can throw it with one of those Nerf balls. It has like the, it looks like an arrow and it whistles when you throw it. Yeah. I don't think I could shoot a bow and arrow that fall.

That throw like his like motion and his like comfort with that throw, his like how free he was with that throw is like how I feel throughout like a dog park and you have a tennis ball and you just have like an open park in front of you and you're just like I'm just gonna fucking wing this thing it's like high a lie yeah they go like 150 miles an hour yeah I what are those is that what they're called a high lie

that's a sport high ally oh you're talking about those things that have it's like the curved scoop yeah yeah I thought you meant the tennis ball picker up or for a dog they make they make like the high ally like whatever you call them like for tennis balls yeah yeah yeah for dogs Those things, you could whip that thing 100 yards. Like it's nothing. Just like Anthony Richardson.

Well, he needs a nickname. Should we call them A or a high ally? I don't think anyone would get that. Yeah, it doesn't really roll off the tongue. Colts are so fun. They're easily like the Red Zone team this year. Everything Anthony Richardson does is interesting. Email us at ringerfancy football at gmail.com

if you have an idea for a nickname for Anthony Richardson. Other player that day just want to shout out. It branded Aubrey, the Cowboys kicker casually, made a 66-yard field goal, which is the NFL record, and it cleared by a lot, and then it didn't count, or yeah, tied it with Justin Tucker.

And it didn't count because the Cowboys got to delay a game. That shit went farther than Justin Tucker's. Justin Tucker's in a dome, hit the bar, and bounced over. Brandon Aubrey's cleared it by so much, I thought that the distance on the thing was wrong. Didn't Aubrey have a 66-yarder in the pre-season two? 65, yeah, something like that.

Well, they've got the penalty. He lined up to kick. a 71-yarder for a second. I would have thought they were on crack if I hadn't seen him just fucking do it before. And I was like, I literally turned to Jack and I was like, did he break that by five yards? I thought it hit the net from 66.

Yeah. That was so amazing. Soft that they didn't let him try the 71-yarder. Come on. He's unbelievable. There's quietly been a revolution in kicking. So it gets to play with the ESPN stats and info now. And he had this thing

that there there had been 17-50-yard field goals made in a week one, which is the single-week record, and there were six games left on the day. Wow. Like the amount of 50-yard field goals being made, I know I've said this before, and it's my first thing where I feel old.

It used to be a thing when someone would even try one before 60. They would cut to it. Beyond 50 was like, they would talk about 50 the way they now talk about 62-plus. Like, it is like, like, 17. 50-yard field goals made and the 1 o'clock window is insane. To be honest, if I was getting up to go to the bathroom and the announcer was like, and Harrison Butker is lining up for a 61-yard field goal, I think I'm still going to the bathroom.

I think it has to be north of 65 now before I'm like even interested. That's how desensitized I am. On the broadcast tonight, like I know there are some people young listening who don't give a fuck, but I think older people know the broadcast tonight. They're talking about the college kickers for, I don't know if it's the Lions or Rams, had made a 62-yard or in the building. A college kicker had made his 62-yard. I don't know.

That was literally impossible 20 years ago. Anyway. And also Justin Tucker's washed. Yeah. Yeah. And he's one for five on 50 plus last season. It was just bizarre. It was only one.

Not great. All right. Next step. We got real and spectacular. They're real and they're spectacular. God damn. Please quote Seinfeld correctly. And Miss Terry Hatcher.

Legendary line. They're real and they're spectacular. Craig, who's real and spectacular? I'm my they're real and they're spectacular. I think it has to go to Jaden Daniels. Yeah. Rookie quarterback on the commanders. Look, he had a fantastic day fantasy-wise.

They lost to the bucks pretty handedly. But he was the third best quarterback today in fantasy football. 28 points. 28 points. Ran all over the place, had two touchdowns, had a real awesome garbage time touchdown for any of you who had him in fantasy. Is he good at throwing? it was a tough day.

We don't really know yet. You know what? Who cares? A lab-grown diamond looks like the same thing as a regular diamond. He's kind of a lab-grown diamond for fantasy.

But it's fine. It was like the perfect Jane Dales game too because literally I think at least two. I didn't watch every single play of this game because I was kind of like going through different games. But at least two times I saw his helmet go flying off. He's just sending it. What the fuck?

I mean, but this is like the before the season and before the draft, talking about like this guy just, he plays like Josh Allen, but he's 189 pounds or whatever he is. And I'm like, dude, this guy needs to protect himself. Twice I saw his helmet go flying off. He needs to be careful out there. Look, I think he's better than Justin Fields, but the way he's playing right now feels peak

Justin Fields when he was like a top five quarterback in fantasy where he is looking to run so much, but you love it and he's so good at it. He's so fast, so slippery. But he is constantly running. He had 20 points run. like 20 points running today. Yeah. 21 points.

He is always looking to run. Maybe I'm a little nervous for him. He tries to slide. He kind of like tumbles forward, but he's trying. And I appreciate that. But yeah, I mean, he's going to be like a force in fantasy. Yeah, this was the dream. This was the dream.

21 points is run. Just rushing. Top five quarterbacks on the week so far are Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, Jaden Daniels, Anthony Richardson, Lamar Jackson. I feel like Jaden Daniels. I feel like I talked to him up a lot in the preseason and he's everything I wanted. but to Craig's point, watching him today, I was like, okay, thank God he's good at doing everything I thought he would.

Also, I don't know how the fuck he's going to get through 17 games. To trade him now? I honestly, I'm not even kidding you. Not yet. Wait a few weeks. I can't. I have no idea how this dude's going to make through the whole season like this. He learned nothing.

Again, you can't, like 24-year-old men, they can't, what are you going to do? This is why they don't get insured for cars. Like, this is unbelievable. Yeah. But yeah, this was the dream. 28 points, week one. I gave you guys the list of the quarterbacks who have had 20 plus points in their first game as a pro.

It was like all rushing quarterbacks, essentially, Anthony Richardson, Kyler Murray, going back, RG3, a couple of other people I can't remember off the top of my head. Yeah, my friend texted me today because he drafted Jaden Daniels in his league, and he was like, I don't think I can ever draft a pocket passer again. And I kind of get it.

Like, when you do like Dak Prescott or something or Jared Gough, Borough. Eight points. Baker goes down and gets 29 and you're like, damn, so I could get anyone? I got one. Okay.

I think he's real and spectacular. J.K. Dombins? It feels like, look, he got caught from behind really egregiously. No top end speed whatsoever anymore. And you just have to accept that. But he looked pretty damn good, honestly. He knew how to run in the scheme.

He was like making jump cuts behind the line and he had some short area burst to him. 135 yards on 10 rushes. He had like a 61-yard breakaway that helped them ice the game in the second half, 22.9.5 ppr fantasy points. Second among all running backs this week in scrimmage yards. So I don't know, look, he was one of our guys this year, or coming into the season where we're like,

if all the things kind of fall right, he could be like one of the biggest values because people are, he's like basically going on drafter for like a dollar in auction leagues. And he's run in the system before. and obviously he's probably not as explosive as used to me, but all things kind of lined up for him today, and I'm like, this might actually be real. This might be a thing.

Dobbins is Rahim Mostert last year. We don't know how long. Extremely slow version of Rahimmoester. Yeah. Rahim's slowster. Slowster. That's good. Really, though.

We don't know how long he's going to stay healthy. But every game, yeah, Reheme slowster. Rahim's slowster. Fuck, that's good. trademark that. All right. Next up, fart or shart? Craig, you want to explain this one? Yeah, this is a player who had a tough day,

and we need to know, was this just a fart, or did a little bit of poop come out? Is this a problem? Like, do you have to go home? Yeah. Is this just, you know, it's okay? You don't have to leave dinner. You don't have to leave the date you're on,

or do you got to get the hell out of there? I'm going to propose Rahim Moster. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, yeah. Had six carries for nine yards today. Nobody on Miami really ran the ball well. I mean, A. Chan had 10 carries for 24 yards. He did get a touchdown.

A. Chan's day was great because of his receiving work. So because nobody ran the ball well, maybe I feel a little bit better here. But this was certainly concerning, especially seeing A. Chan get the goal line carry today. But yes, you know, far to short. I came away pretty concerned. You're saying shart. Can you say shart? Shart.

Nice. Potentially. Okay. Potentially. Well, I think basically, you're right. Like, they did not run the ball well at all. They didn't have a ton of like red zone opportunities. But I think A-chan is clearly ahead of him now in the pecking order, which we weren't quite sure of coming into the year.

Because the way that Mike McDaniel had talked about it, it seemed like he was sort of the starter. He only got 43% of snaps. Are you still laughing about shart? Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to talk and Craig is just giggling. Sorry. He's like, giving analysis.

He's sharded. It's also a little punch drum. I didn't love the fact that Jeff Wilson got five carries to Reggie Mosterts six. That's a little worrisome to me. So I'm worried this is a shart a little bit. Yeah. He played 43% snaps. Yeah.

24% of the team's rushes. I think that the A.C. and goal line carry, I feel like it was. He was robbed of a touchdown. I don't know why. I don't remember if he was overturned or what, but he should have scored. And part of me wonders if they left A.C.

In to get the touchdown just because. I think the thing with A. Chan, and again, the reason A. Chan, if you have, who is awesome today is A. Chan, I think, functionally is Miami's third receiver. Yeah. The Miami Receiving Corps is so thin. And Malik Watt, like, it was so thin. O'Dell Beckham's on Injured Reserve.

He's probably dust. Malik Washington was, you know, he was out. Tyree Kill was fucking detained outside the goddamn stadium. The John Housmith thing didn't really happen. No, Jalen Waddle got hurt during the game. Like, I really do think Tyriekill, Jail and Waddle, Devon Aitchan's the third receiver in this team. I think that upside's infinite. High Fitts.

H.A.N. ran 25 routes, which was this third most on a team. Only Waddle and Hill ran more routes. I think functionally H.A. Like, it is Tyreek and Waddle are in like A.C. It really is going to be a third receiver in this team. I think the concern, I don't, you know, is going to do better than 10 yards. I think the problem is Miami's the offensive line kind of fucking sucks.

Yeah. So I was a concern for sure. You got to go to the stall and check because like it really We don't need to go straight home. We can't, yeah. No, we can't go home yet. Go straight home.

You have to go to the bathroom right now. Yeah. Okay. All right. Do you guys have any farther shots? No, that's a good one. Okay. All right, the Arthur Smith Award for the coach

that pissed you off. I got two. I would like to start with Arthur Smith. You were so back. Winner. It's so over. Winner.

Arthur Smith, I just, aside from just being Arthur Smith and again, like, you know, giving Jalen Warren two carries and Quarterland of Patterson four. Well,

he was coming off an injury. Yeah, fair. But also, I would like to just throw out this one moment for the Steelers. And again, I think we complained a lot

about Arthur Smith in fantasy football. Here is a real life moment that not only baffled me, actually sent the announcers for a loop. Third and six, they ran the ball with Corderole Patterson, got three yards. And the announcers were like, wow, love that from the Steelers, because when you know you're going to go for it on fourth down, right? Then you can get more yards on third, make it fourth and manageable. And then they lined up, they went out and had a Chris Boswell kick a 57-yard field camp.

He literally ran it on third and six to set up a 57-yard field ball. I think that's probably, I'm afraid Justin Fields is going to do something stupid. I don't know. If you're willing to get three yards, the fact that you can't boot out Justin Fields and be like, if nothing's open, run for three yards, Justin. I don't know. I just, that blew my fucking doors off. Yeah, look, it wasn't the best offensive day for Pittsburgh, but I thought the second half showed some signs.

It was not full Matt Canada. It was half Matt Canada, which is better. And we won. And the team actually looked all right. We won. Yeah. We won. You lost.

Dka, who's your coach? Who's your Arthur Smith coach that pissed you up? I mean, honestly, like, I don't know if this pissed me off so much as I was just like, this is cowardly. As Antonio Pierce decided to punt when they were on, so the Raiders were on the Chargers, 43-yard line with a fourth and one, trailing six. 16 to 10 was seven minutes to go in the game. And there's all these stats that basically say like no-o teams ever do that.

Like this is one of the most cowardly punts of all time. Bill Barnwell had this great one that was, oh no, I lost Bill's one, but Paul Gutierrez and ESPN had, the Raiders are the first team to punt in opposing territory when trailing by one score in the fourth quarter on fourth and one since 2016.

Wow. Yeah. It dropped their win probability immediately just but the decision to punt dropped their win probability. I love that. It's always good.

And the Lions came back and had a 92-yard touchdown drive at ice the game. Oh, you mean the Chargers? Sorry, yes, the Chargers. So that was just like, come on, dude. I'm so sick of defensive coaches doing this kind of stuff.

Like, just fucking go for it. Collinsworth said this line at the end of Sunday at football about the Lions. When he was like, the Lions aren't just like talk about grit. They are gritty. Like they play gritty. He was talking about David Montgomery. It was like, David Montgomery

fucking runs gritty. And I think the problem with Antonio Pierce is this has nothing to do with math or nerds. The problem is Antonio Pierce wants to be like the physical in your face, kick the shit out of you team. And I'm like, that wasn't fourth and one either. It's fourth one in the stat sheet. That shit was half a yard. That was 18 inches.

If you can get out, which again, you know, too much, right, Craig? Like, if you can't get fucking, fucking 18 inches when you need it, then stop talking about being the physical football team that can take what you want. I think that's the problem. Okay. Great. Were you waiting? Was that? You took a big sigh. I don't know. I thought you were going to say something. Craig contemplated all the evidence. Sounds right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, look, it's a good point. I was thinking about 18 inches.

I was like, I brought my head around that. Damn. Worst call of the week. I'm not going to lie. I don't think there was a ref, a ref thing that really pissed me off. week. So I'm going to give this to whoever did the field in Brazil for Packers Eagles, where it's like on one hand, thankless job to have to ship like ship all that on a container ship to Brazil. Having said that. That's what they did.

Oh my God. Dude, here's the thing. I actually feel, I read a story about the logistics of getting this field there. Insane. Everything you saw on television. They didn't just have a field there?

Well, they had everything has to be sent. But oh my God, that field was horrific. People were falling in ways I've never seen people fall That was a terrible field I don't know what they were doing And also a lot of people slept today too Yeah

The next category is here is the SBF fraud watch Presented by FTX Biggest fraud of the day Yeah Yeah shout out Our presenting sponsor FTX Shout out Sam Bankman Freed Come on the pod

Yeah my fraud is NFL field maintenance I don't know What the fuck was going on today Like actually It was weird It was weird. It was super weird.

I wrote every single one down. The Seattle game, people were slipping. Giovanni Williams slipped. Gina Smith was slipping all the time. Yes. Indianapolis, they had new turf there. Stroud slipped and still completed a pass on fourth down. Mixon was slipping.

Receivers were slipping. In Tampa, Rashad White slipped. The Cleveland game, and Joku slipped and then got hurt later. And then in the game tonight, the Detroit, Montgomery slipped. Amara slipped and had to bat down his own pass. What's going on? What are we doing? Once you pointed this out,

I forget when you texted me this. I couldn't stop seeing players slip. Everybody was slipping all day. A mom on the last drive. A mom on the slip. You're right in that, it seemed contagious. Yeah.

It's like everybody turned into Cadarius Tony all of a sudden. I think every team was playing in Brazil and they didn't tell us. Oh. I think it was week one was in Brazil, not just the Friday night game. Yeah. I think Darlington was

Brazil. Yeah, it's Jeff Darlington's fault. The weird thing was, like, Craig, I saw that happen a bunch when the Seahawks play on field turf. It wasn't even like a field, it's not even like a real turf. I don't know what's going on out there. It was weird. I think they play on field turf, unless they changed it recently.

I mean, I don't know what field turf is. Well, no one really knows. Every field is different, I feel like. When you say regular turf, it wasn't grass. Is that a brand field turf? Wait, when you've never heard of field turf? Well, no, to me... Just turf.

Just turf. Because you said they're not playing on field turf. They're playing on turf. Does turf mean grass to you? Because turf means fake grass to me. I meant to say not grass. I just misspoke. But you've never heard of the term field turf?

Yeah. I think, yeah. What? I have heard the term field turf. Reacting to Hyphitz not knowing what field turf is. If this field turf, is that different from turf? slightly. It's not real grass. I know. Turf isn't real grass.

No, no. Sorry. Again, I misspoke. I meant it's field turf, not grass. Is there a difference between when people say just turf and field turf? Field turf is a, it's like a brand, I think. Okay. It's like it's like its own separate thing. So that's the thing is like there's lots of different types of turf. And you said I was dumb? No, I was, I was insinuating you're dumb because you've never. heard of field turf. But I said is field turf a brand? And then you made fun of me.

No, because you, I was making fun of you because you'd never heard of it. It's like saying, what's Kleenex? I've never heard of Kleenex. And I said, it's a brand. Is it? No, I'm still, again, once, once again, I'm still just shocked you've never heard a field turf. Well, I don't buy field turf. Yeah, but you cover football. I never bought it. It's like, it's wild. All right, wait, so, but turf, I feel like when you say, oh, the player goes to the turf. That's like, it doesn't matter. It's a metaphor. Any other thing, though, I think of turf as synthetic. Yes, fake grass. I agree.

Okay. What were we talking about? Fraud watch. Just NFL field maintenance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Field turf. Yeah, they don't, they don't care. The teams, it's, I don't know what's going on there. Is there a consensus? Is it people want to play on grass, right? Everybody wants to play on grass. Everybody wants to play in grass. Everybody wants to play in grass. And they can't. Yeah, I think the basic. stadiums want to make money so they have all these concerts that ruins grass.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's how do you, on the by week, how do you have a Taylor Swift concert or a Kevin Hart like stand-up thing and then bring grass back? And it's way easier to roll it up. But then you have things like, I don't know if you guys saw the USC LSU game. There was this video of the Trojan mascot plunges a sword into the field, but he did it at the fake grass and Allegiant. And he pulled up the turf back with it. And you like, when you see it, it's like, ick for grass. because you like see it come up like it's a carpet

and you're like ugh like it's so weird when you realize it's just carpet grass field turf field turf all right my SBF fraud watch presented by FDX is the Falcons

Oh yeah The Falcons are frauds I regret ever buying into this goddamn company I never want to do it again One the Falcons is a franchise of frauds They had to go silent count at home because there are so many Steelers fans in Atlanta. So embarrassing.

We talk about it all the time of the Chargers. Pathetic that the Chargers, that the Falcons said to do that. T.J. Watt basically said after the game, he knew the Falcon Snap counts, pathetic. Michael Pennex. The name Panics. Penix was trending in Atlanta on Twitter, like 20 minutes into this game because Kirk Cousins looked so fucking bad. This Pennix pick is making more sense by the day.

Yeah, they got Kirk Cousins in. I'm like, this guy sucked. We need a quarterback. The Steelers D-line terrorized the Falcons today. T.J. Watt, like, borderline single-handedly won that game for the Steelers. He was involved in

every single play. He had a million sacks and strip sacks called back. He was jumping the line every time. He ended the game on a sack. He was incredible. T.J. Watts had some of the best games I've ever seen they're all in week one. Honestly, he's incredible. The Falcons threw for one more yard than

the Steelers did today. Think about where you drafted the Falcons and where you drafted the Steelers. How's that make you feel? That's a fucking fraud. The only wide receivers, wide receivers in the Steelers Falcons game to get more than 15 yards were George Pickens and Ray Ray McLeod. Ray Ray McLeod led the Falcons and yards. Yeah.

What was your, hey, DK, what was your favorite Drake London moment today? Was it the eight-yard? catch or the seven-yard catch? Yeah, to quote Bill, when's the last Drake London conversation you had? Yeah. It was probably on the take perch when I said that the Falcons are going to be bad, actually.

Kirk Cush is going to suck. I don't know if this is like going to laugh. Are we going to take credit for take purges or no? Well, when you get it right, it's like week one. It's like when you get it right, it's because you're right. But when you're wrong, it's, well, it's week one. No one would, you know. If you're wrong, you can just say, well, it was the take perch.

Okay. It's the beauty of the take purge. Right, right. But I was right so far. I don't think I'm going to be right the whole season. I think they'll figure it out. But I do think Kirk Cousins is like not healthy. They didn't have one play action pass, I think.

I saw this. Nate Tyson just tweeted this. Not one play action pass. This game was very, very, very similar to when Joe Burrow came back last year in week one with the calf injury and it was too soon. He couldn't move and he was 82 passing yards. And he could the Falcons had shotgun or pistol. and again, shotgun, shotgun, and then pistol is just like slightly closer

and the running backs behind you instead of next to you in shotgun. But it's the same thing. Falcons were in shotgun or pistol, 96% of the time, shotgun or pistol. When they were in shotgun, they only threw the ball in shotgun. 100% passes in shotgun. When they were in pistol, 80% run, 80% run. That is probably the biggest tell I've ever seen. So how did T.J. Wan always know.

they were going to pass. How did T.J. I always know the play, D.K.? Why did I see him celebrating every time I looked up on the screen? Also, every time he was on the bench, he was, like, deeply studying his tablet. He was clearly just watching the way. He said something after the show, after the game, I should say, Craig, that he saw, he had like a tell. Didn't he, I think he said something in an interview after that.

He jumped, he jumped to snap so quickly. They called him off sides. That was incredible. That was so cool. And I think it was Greg Olson. I forget it was announcing. And he was like, I don't know, man. I think he actually just like jumped that better than anyone's ever jumped it.

It was just like it looked illegal because it was so good. Here's what I think happened there. I don't know if anyone, so the nuance of the snap thing is the offense calls it, but the snap begins when the ball is snapped, not when the quarterback says it. The ball snapped. The offense knows the snap. The defense does it. He actually seemed like, to your point, he actually knew it better than some of the Falcons players on the line,

which to your point gave it the appearance that he was off. But that, I don't know, that was. Anyway, I just, I don't know. 155 yards, fewer than Joe Burrow. Yeah. Michael Pennix, good pick. Terry Fontno, sneaky winner. Yeah, Terry Fonton.

Well, they did give Kirk Cousins $100 million, break. Well, well, that's so cost. You got to give it somewhere. Spend it or lose it? Use it or lose it? Is that how it's actually? Yeah. Not exactly, but, you know.

Fraudes, the Lennon falcons. All right. D.K., do you have a fraud? It was Kirk cousins. Okay. We got him. He'll get better, hopefully. I think it's like Borough.

It's like the mobility, like Burrow last year. The mobility as it gets better. But until then, holy shit, the Falcons are going to be awful. Okay. The Lucille Bluth, I don't understand the stat line and I won't respond to an award. I'm just going to steal a tweet from Justice Mosqueda, who tweeted that every quarterback who's, here is every quarterback who's, here is every quarterback who's, ever thrown 42 passes in a game and had 138 yards or less.

Jesse Palmer, 40-year-old Ben Rothesberger, and Bo Nicks today. Yeah, that's not a great, not a great company. Unbelievable. I think the least compelling type of football is teams that throw a lot,

but just check down. I think that is the most, like, flaccid form of football. Watching Deshawn Watson and Bo Nix just throw it, one yard every single play is awful. I hate it.

I'd rather watch three straight runs. Craig's disgusted. I hate it. It's the worst. Someone, I apologize that. Someone tweeted today that Bo Nix was like if Taseb Hill couldn't run it through. It's unbelievable.

D.K., do you get of any I don't understand the stat lines? My Lucille Bluth, I don't understand the stand. that line and I won't respond to it award is Derek Carr finishing as the QB6. I don't understand it. And I won't respond to it. It's like that stat last year that it was like C.J. Stroud and Derek Carr led the league for most 300 yard games.

That simply can't be right. I've never once looked at in Derek Carr's direction. So therefore, dude, it's the HR meme where it's like he goes away. Oh, yeah. Derek Carr's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't you dare. That's really good actually Yeah

47 to 10 Win over the Panthers I choose to ignore it I choose not to see it Derek Carr would have to Hold the fucking Lombardi trophy for me to admit he's okay

Nothing short of that All right Intrusive thoughts DK tell me some of your intrusive thoughts today Oh God maybe Caleb Williams Just sucks

You really thought that No But you have that, it's like a creeping feeling in the back of your head where you're like, I was so sure, this guy's fucking awesome. And that was like really bad what he was doing today. So I don't actually believe that he'll be really bad. But 14 of 29 for 93 yards. Yeah, look, I think with most rookie quarterbacks, I don't know, a lot of the time you can kind of just throw out, I don't know, the first half of their season.

So there's so many great quarterbacks who had horrific rookie seasons. And throwing these guys in week one, like you just said, what was that crazy stat about first overall picks, not winning their first game since 2002? Derek Carr, 2002 is the last time. David Carr. David Carr.

Sorry, yeah. Sorry, I know Brady's whole thing is that these quarterback should be sitting here like Mahomes did and stuff. And maybe he's right, but that's not really like the league we play in now. So I kind of think,

I totally get what you're saying, but it's hard. You almost just say can't, you just got to like check back in in week eight. yeah i definitely i don't i don't believe that he's going to be bad but it's like you know this is an intrusive thought yeah it's an interesting creeping around back there somewhere in the back of my head correct you have any intrusive thoughts today i kind of am just like we don't rest doesn't need to come back did you like did you like fields did you think he was good uh yeah i thought the second

half fields things started to open up a little bit it felt like him and arthur smith were starting to develop like an actual rhythm. It was basically like layups and threes. They were just running the ball a lot going deep to Pickens and it was actually kind of working. And also the vibes were kind of fun. Pickens and fields are on the sideline like hanging out laughing. I've never seen George Pickens happy before.

I'm just like, I don't know. Maybe we just keep doing this. It's fun to have a mobile quarterback. The funniest things that happened today literally were like Russell Wilson was named inactive and then there was all these people tweeting about Russell Wilson like warming up with like full pads on and stuff like eye black.

Apparently he was the emergency third quarterback so like there's an actual legitimate reason that he was wearing all his pads. But I just like to think that he just wanted to do it for the vibes. He just wanted to go out there even though he was not going to play just wear those pads. Even if that wasn't true, the fact that we believed it

is all you need to know. He says a lot. Russell Wilson's just out there and his full pads. Yeah. It's the best. My intrusive thought was when Sam Darnold completely, the 10th pass in a row to start the game.

I thought J.G. McCarthy is never going to play it down to the Vikings. Oh, geez. They're going to trade McCarthy. You're saying like, Donald gets a new contract. They abandoned McCarthy. Well, he's going to get, he's going to get

Trey Lance where it's going to be like, yeah, we'll transition, we'll transition. And then it's going to be, oh, well. Trade him for a six-round pick. And then he's a third-string quarterback on some team. I don't believe that. But, yeah, I had the thought today. I was like, what if, what if Judge McCarthy just never suits up for this day?

That is an interesting, like, thought experiment, hyphids too, because it happens to a lot of quarterbacks where you get lost in the shuffle. This is the first, first round pick quarterback to miss his entire season's injury, right? Yeah, and Donald was drafted higher than J.G. McCarthy. Like, I know people are, like, out on Darnold that can't stress enough. The two coaches that started Donald's career have never coached in the NFL since.

Also, you know, we all, everybody talks about Dave Canales. Kevin O'Connell, quarterback whisperer. Yeah. This guy can make it work with whoever. This guy's like in the chopped kitchen, just throwing shit together. Yeah. The other intrusive thought I had was Travis CTN fumbled at the one yard line today, and I thought this will affect the rest of his career.

Uh-oh. This is like a DeAndre Swift situation. The beginning of the Tank Bigsby era because of that fumble. Him and Tank being split carries, Bigsby did better. I think Doug Peterson already. hated Travis E.N. Like, I really, I think Doug Peterson hates him. And then Travis E.T.N. Fumbled at the one yard line today.

And I was like, I feel like Peterson was like going to put up with a shit with E.T. I think he hates him. I think, I think, I just, I think he hates him now. Just the fives. I just, I mean, Travis E.TN, I hate to ever put it out a player. Travis E. T.m lost him the fucking game. Dolphins won on a field goal as time expired. Travis E. T.N. fumbled a ball at the one yard line and lost it in the end zone.

It was a really good play by the defender, I will say. It was, but I'm not going to lie. as much as we're like there are all these levels of football that like you can't ever you know understand all these coaches no more than we've ever, we'll forget more than we ever know. None of these coaches will ever forget that he did that

and they'll never get over it. And they'll say they're going to trust him again. No, but don't forget. People don't forget. People don't forget. It's like sixth grade. Why don't you go fumble at the one again, Travis? It was like six years ago. People don't forget.

Like, it's exact. Yeah. Anyway, oh my God. Post-Nuck Clarity Award for How Did I Not See This Coming? Mine is pretty mellow, but just not like the boring vets on teams who are really good and reliable are also, they are going to be good and reliable again the next year. I feel like we all just decided this year. We're like, Tyler Lockett's bad now. It's over.

It's Metcalf and JSN. And then today Lockett was the best receiver on the field. He had 77 yards. JSN and Metcalf didn't do shit. Block it. He had the game winning catch. It was like incredible one-hander. Yeah.

Yeah. We just decided, we just got bored. And we're like, yeah, I don't think so. I think it's all right. We always are ready to like, anoint the next guy. The second he caught a pass, I was like, yeah,

at least looks right. He just like caught some third down over the middle, got down smartly, moved the chains. And I was like, oh, yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. He completely mailed in the preseason too. I don't think he practiced. He was questionable for this game. He was questionable.

Craig, for this exact, literally the same concept for me of just like, how do we not see this coming? Vets versus like anointing the next generation. Fuck the next generation. Mike Evans, 61 yards, two touchdowns. Two touchdowns.

Drake London. Two catches. 15 yards. Look, that's most duck clarity. If I could tattoo one thing on my body today, it is Mike Evans' name across my fucking chest. And that next year,

I don't care how old this fucker is. I'm drafting. Mike Evans, every year until he retires. Mike Evans is a first ballot if he played in a different city, would be an icon. Yes. If Mike Evans was on the Cowboys, he would be an icon. Imagine Mike Greenberg talking about how New York Jet Mike Evans

has never not had 1,000 yards in a season. You know what I mean? Yeah, he is the most underrated receiver in the league, I think. He won a Super Bowl in Tampa Bay. No one gives a fuck. Yeah. My book Godwin looked pretty good too, by the way. Yeah, he looked great too.

We're so back. Evans is awesome. Burn book. Do you want to describe that to people who maybe are tuning in for the first time? The burn book is people we put, it's like Mean Girls and we put people in the book where it's like we're fucking done with you after this week. Like this is it.

No going back. No going back. And like a little bit, we kind of wish ill upon you. I think a lot of fantasy podcasts are like, we don't hate the player. We hate the ADP. These are players we fucking hate. Well, then my nominee really works.

Okay. Because it's Deshawn Watson, obviously. I think he's done. I think we're done with that. I don't care. Bird that guy, yeah. That's a perfect, perfect candidate. Even like, and Jokos hurt, Amari Cooper did nothing with Deshaun.

I'm just like, I don't want anything to do with this. Jerry Judy, like, caught a touchdown and got hurt. I just don't want to be there. I think the Browns are in this situation too, Craig. It's not the Burn Book. It's the Brown book. he's a problem. Kevin Clark tweeted today that

Deshawn Watson trade and contract was insane when he was good at football. Right. It's like actually the worst quarterback in the NFL now. It's the worst. They're playing the worst person. The worst player.

Remember how awesome Joe Flacko was last year? Yeah. They had to get rid of him because he was because people would be clamoring for Joe Flacko after that game today. Do you think Carolina and Cleveland could just do a swap, Bryce Young for Deshawn?

Who says no? never do it in a trillion years. The Browns take some of the money off. Would they do it? No. I'm not kidding you. They would have to take $100 million to even talk about it. But then they talk about it. That's the only one that goes in the book, I feel like.

It has to be Deshaun. No, that's a perfect, he's a perfect week one. He looks so bad. Like, just right out of the gate looked awful. Just awful. Just chucking it like six people deep. On the sideline. Yeah, it's like, you know what they...

Not even given your receiver a chance. You know, when they bring out people to shoot half-court shots and the guy, like, one-hands-it? You know, there's like the meme of the guy shoot around in a gym where he's just, like, launching, like, just bricks off the backboard at, like, a thousand miles an hour. That's like, Deshawn passing that. Yeah, he's like, the guy who, it's like he can't shoot it with his two hands long. So he has to one-arm windmill hockey. And it goes 20 feet over the backboard. That was what Deshawn walking's feetballs.

Ray drops. Yeah. You know what? That's great too because the receivers do look like people who are trying to rebound the ball but it's not going to them. They're just like, oh. Yeah. All right.

Deshawn Watson, you're in the burn book. You're in the book time. All right. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Kai and Carlos, for producing this episode. Thank you everyone for listening. Email us at Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com.

Email us trivia for waivers. Tomorrow, Monday. we're going to have Monday night, or Monday after you, I don't know when it's going to come out. We're going to have trivia and also just waiver picks for everything. Week one,

it's very important. And honestly, we're actually pretty good at it. So stick with us. We actually, like, are we actually, we've helped a lot of people win over the years

just from like waiver. Oh, I thought you meant trivia. Oh, the trivia were terrible. We're so bad at the trivia. I thought, I mean,

I can't, I still don't understand how clouds weighed. I thought a cloud weighed five times. Dude, Cloud, if you think it's cloud weight. I stand by it. Yeah.

DK, we stand by it. What was the answer? A million pounds? A billion. It was a billion. It was a big. They flew. What's that?

What? We were like three. Anyway, we don't know shit about clouds, but, you know, we told you to pick up Kyron Williams. All right. Thank you, everyone. Thank you everyone for help behind scenes. Thank you, Kira.

Thank you, Jack. Thank you. Everybody for listening. It's going to be a fun season. Thank you, Lorne. Lord. Thank you, MGMT. Oh, yeah.

Okay. Nice. They're great. To be honest, I haven't listened to, like, a lot of their songs, but the few that are very popular, I think, are fantastic. All bangers. Yeah. Electric field, time to pretend.

What's the other one? Kids, or is that the name of the album, I forget? I do not know. Yeah. They're having a little resurgence on TikTok, like the zoomers are like. Yeah. I remember there was a, did you guys see the movies? Yeah.

Yeah. That movie Saltburn. with Jacob Allorty. There was a big montage with, I think it was time to pretend and actually it ripped. Saltburn also had the

murder on the dance floor ending. That's been an irritation. I had never even heard of that song until that movie. I had never. It sounds older than it is. You hear that song.

You're like, this is from the 80s. Yeah, it was 2001. I thought the exact same thing. Yeah. It's so, that's such a mind fuck. Yeah. Good one, D.K. I feel like,

That was a great choice. Sweet. Thanks. Appreciate that. A plus. I just realized that's for management. Is it? No, no.

Is it? It's not? What is it? Well, that's what... It's like the abbreviation. But I don't... Is the band named after the word management? I think it is.

I just kind of realized it. Oh. I've never... I just, I never thought of that until just now. The band name MGMT is pronounced as the individual letters of MGMT and is not an abbreviation for management. Oh, wow. What is this?

Wait, that was what Gemini told me. This is what it says on Wikipedia. It says the band formed under the name, The Management, and released two demo albums. Gemini told you it's fine. What the fuck is going on with Google Gemini? Dude, how do they release that shit? That's the, that stuff is, it's so bad. I really have to stop reading that.

This is, it says the name was already being used by another band, so they later changed it to MGMT, which is, this is like the best word I've ever seen. a disembowelment. Not a disembowelment, a disemowlement of the word. So Gemini does go on to say that the original name was the management, but still the first sentence, it's just,

I hate it so much. You can't trust anything anymore. It's so bad. It is. You know, I'll take a trivia question about Google Gemini or anything like that. You got any AI trivia. We'll take some of those.

Wow, they're from Middletown, Connecticut. I don't know if I would have guessed that. It would have been crazy if you did. What do you know about Middletown, Connecticut? I don't know. That's not... You're not familiar with their music scene? I don't think about like psychedelic pop from Connecticut.

That's not what I... You know something about Middletown, Connecticut? That's where they invented field turf. Shut the fuck out. How do you know that? It's not true. No, I made it now. Oh.

I think that... Wait, Google Gemini. I just said that. That's correct. Google Gemini. I said the middle... Yeah. All right, goodbye, everyone.

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