The Ringer NFL Show - Week 10 Awards

Episode Date: November 15, 2021

We recap the Week 10 slate by giving out awards, including Winner of the Week, The Panic Button, Weird Flex but OK, We’re Not Mad Just Disappointed, and more. Later we induct the next player into the 2021 Fantasy Burn Book and recap our day of prop bets. Email us at [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Mike Wargon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's Monday to football left. I do that every week. I don't. That's fine. People get it. You know. It's Monday. You get the idea.

Anyway, most of the games are done. Another weird week. I feel like last week was weird and we're like, huh, that happens. And then this week before that was the bypocalypse. There's just like a lot going on that we don't understand. and I don't think any of us really know what to do about it, to be honest. We just have to carry on living our lives and just kind of make what we can of it. There's one thing we do understand.

Through all of this, through all the mud, we understand that there is a defense that can perhaps limit Patrick Mahomes. We also understand that the Raiders have no interest in running that defense. It's pretty astonishing. Yeah. It's just classic. Obviously, like the Mahomes, Mahomes is awesome on Sunday night football. the Chiefs are one of my big winners of the week. And it's just hilarious to me that all we've been talking about,

like for the last month, it's like the only thing we've been talking about. It's the biggest story in the entire fucking NFL other than some of the awful, like Gruden and whatnot, but whatever. Mahomes, like, can't play cover. He can't play against cover two. We broke it down in depth on this podcast.

Basically, the key to stopping Mahomes is just to drop one guy in your defense and play him a little bit further off the line of scrimmage. The Raiders refused. He was a short attention span and he can't check it down. Otherwise, the TikTok generation can't just check it down a lot. The Raiders are not plugged into the blogosphere. They didn't read the blogs that all pointed out why Mahomes is struggling,

why the Chiefs offense is struggling. And they just decided to run some cover three stuff. I mean, obviously it wasn't only cover three throughout the whole game. But they were running a lot of it, much more than they should have. And Mahomes went absolutely nuclear again, 35 or 50, 460. yards, five touchdowns, no picks. It was the Mahomes of old, Tyreek of old, Kelsey of old. Kelsey's no longer washed, thank God.

Yeah, I don't know. Honestly, like, I don't know whether to call this like a win. Obviously, they're a winner this week, and if they're on your team, if you decided to stick with them for another week, huge win for you. I'm just worried that it's going to go back to the same old shit next week when they play an actually competent defense. What the hell happened here? Why did there?

I guess maybe they just don't trust. Jonathan Ambram, their safety to do any coverage in the back end. Maybe that was like the reason that they did this. He took in the first round. What do you expect them to do? Also, he got Mossed in the end zone by a running back. It was a rough day

for the Raiders defense. I don't know. Again, like, I don't know if this is something that like the chiefs are truly back or this was just like, look, they didn't do what everyone else has been doing over the last month and they paid for it. They really needed this emotionally. I feel like it was getting dark.

Santa City. That is kind of like where I landed is like this is just a confidence booster to get their swag back and that actually might matter going forward. Yeah, Mahomes, after the game, he was getting interviewed on the field and they were like, you know, you've had three kind of rough weeks like, like what was your mindset going to this game? And he's like, we actually like didn't read anything of the media so like we didn't even really like know what was going on.

And I was like, well, how would you know not to look at the media? Yeah, bullshit. Unless you're looking at the media. That's absolute horseshit. It's a very good line. Like, it's a good thing. He's like, we actually didn't. read anything or see anything. So we just kept doing what we were doing. I was like,

well, how would you know not to look, Pat? I want to see Mahomes' screen time on his iPhone. Yeah, prove it. Mahomes is up at 2 a.m. on Reddit, like being like, Mahomes is washed. Mahomes sucks. Mahomes probably paid Gus Bradley to run cover three. All right, I don't know how that one connected to what we were talking about, but like, I get everything else I'm on board. All right. Chiefs are winners. Raiders are losers, literally and figuratively. Really, the Raiders just been losing. a lot. Like just...

It's been a not good month. Bad, bad season for writers. All right. Other winners and losers, I think everyone who watched Steelers' Lions is a loser. Like, the Steelers and Lions tie.

Disagree. The millions of people who tuned in, it's like that scene at the end of Billy Madison where they're like, not only is that like the dumbest question I've ever heard, everyone in this audience who has listened

is now dumber for having heard. That is how. I felt watching that. I award you no points. And may God have mercy on your soul. Yeah. I got to say, I wholeheartedly disagree. I think this game was endlessly entertaining. Craig, what is wrong with you? I watched this game with some friends. We were all having a blast. It was the most fun I've had. It was the most fun I had all day watching in a game. You think it was more fun to watch Dallas put up 40 and Atlanta put up three? No, the fourth quarter and overtime of this game. I have never seen so many almost interceptions thrown in my life. It was raining. Gough and Mason Rudolph were competing

for worst performance of all time. Jared Gough had 90 yards in five full quarters. 90 yards. And they kept throwing the ball. It got to the point where a team's best chance of winning was giving the ball to the other quarterback because they were so likely to cause a turnover. The thing about Jared Gough, too, it's like he was the first pick and almost won a Super Bowl like two years ago. It's like we're talking about him like he's like Ryan Lindley or something. It was an incredible game of fumbling and almost picks. Guff had 11 yards at halftime. Can I read you guys the list of drives in the second half?

Yeah. So the halftime happened. The first half was disgusting. And the second half, the lion scored touchdown. And then the Steelers get a field goal. And then here is how the game ended. Lions punt. Steelers punt.

Lions punt. Steelers field goal. Lions punt. Steelers punt. Lions punt Steelers punt Steelers punt Steeler kneel down

to end the game at fourth quarter Lions punt Steeler fumble Lion missed field goal Steeler punt Lions fund Lions fund

Steelers fumble Lions on the game I'm telling you it was an unbelievable game the final 50 drive if you take out those kneel downs in the game final 15 drives

had 11 puns and two fumbles in the final Jesus you guys remember that 2018 Chiefs Rams game it was like 54 452. This was the opposite of that, but equally as entertaining. Craig, were you like freebase saying Salvia or something? Like, what was, how were you enjoying this? It was hilarious. It was like watching a

You're a Steelers fan too. Are you one of those people, Greg, who does like every month you go to some movie theater in LA and you watch the room by like Tommy Wazzo and you're just like, it's so bad. Like it's hilarious, right? Like that's what you're talking about. No, I didn't do that. You guys tell me the bad quarterback league was created. for this football game. There is some joy in watching people suck. Bad quarterbacks are hilarious. I can't believe nobody,

neither of you understand what I mean here. I get what you're saying, but I just want to read off a list here, which is confusion, loss of, these are symptoms, confusion, loss of control over body movement, weakness, low blood pressure, seizures, gastrointestinal distress,

dizziness, vision symptoms, or rashes. That is, I could... Are you explaining what Jared Gophers going through on the field? No, those are the, those are the side effects of Ivermectin. And I was reading about that earlier this week. But I felt all of those things watching this game. Gastrointestinal distress. Yeah, I have a lot of that. Every time Jared Goff

dropped back, a lot of distress. By the way, it's not just Jared Goff, you guys. I made the mistake of, I think I said in the morning green room, like, I'm kind of excited to see if Mason Rudolph can just like make this interesting and like kind of take the job or like at least make it seem like there's a quarterback controversy. He is God awful. He was worse than Goff, arguably. He has not one of game without Sean McVay yet. How incredible is that? I want to say he had more throws that looked like they were coming from a high school quarterback than goughed it. The lions are in the, they have a chance of going 016 and 1. How weird is that?

That would just be unbelievable. Oh my God. I can't even. That would be it's a God. It was bad. So everyone was a loser for watching except Craig and his friends. You are all now dumber. Dumber for having heard this. Okay. God and have mercy on our souls. All right. Any winners? Anyone to take this in a more positive lighter? I want to stay negative. I mean, we can go back and forth. Let's go with the winner here.

The Patriots offense to me was definitely a big winner today. Mac Jones looked really solid, 19 to 23, 98 yards, and three touchdowns. His first three touchdown game of his career, I believe. And more importantly, he kind of, like obviously, I think overall he's always going to be, this season at least. He's going to be like a game manager type player. Just don't make big mistakes. you know, distribute the football,

get it to your playmakers, blah, blah, blah. He made some seriously impressive throws in this game. Like his touchdown to Kendrick Bourne up the seam in between two defenders was like perfectly placed into traffic, led his receiver to daylight, like put it in the basically the only place

he could get in score touchdown. That was really impressive. So Mack Jones was really great in this. The offensive line overall is getting healthy and looked really solid. Ramon J. Stevenson came in and looked really, really good. 100 yards on the ground,

two touchdowns also was a factor in the passing attack. Ended up with 27 points. So that was really exciting. Hunter Henry apparently only catches touchdowns. That's like all he does. He has seven touchdown catches in his last seven games. And big news, you guys.

Jacobi Myers got to the end zone. Yeah. Broke the streak. Finally did it. Like it was a record-setting drought. Like by a lot. It was like triple. anyone else is that in terms of yards and catches without a touchdown in his career.

So that was cool to see four catches, 49 yards and a touchdown. So overall, Patriots' offense just went buzzsaw on the Browns. I don't know what the Browns' deal is because sometimes the Brown's defense looks incredible. And then they've also played some good offenses this year and just absolutely got boat race. So I don't really know what to make of them. Boat race is a great word. I watched today and I feel like the AFC rep will be from the AFC East. I really feel like the Bills or the Patriots will come out of the AFC.

I'm kind of cheating because realistically Are you not buying the Titans? I'll put the Titans in that group too because sure I'm starting to just think that it's going to be the bills have like the most talent I guess maybe the Chief's going to come back

we'll see if they actually beat a team once they do the whole figured out Patrick Holmes thing but the Patriots and the Titans like first of all Mike Vrabble seems to be the only Bill Belichick disciple that's actually replicated anything like New England which is we're going to play really ugly football

drag you down to our level and beat you with experience and the Patriots just are It's like the Patriots and Titans went back to 2002 and then are just beating teams up physically. And like, what do they beat the Browns? The Patriots beat the rounds, 45 to 7. And I really believe that like the Patriots are going to sneak into the playoffs.

And then everyone will remember, oh, yeah, no one wants to coach against Bill Belichick in a wild card game or a divisional round. Like, that's a nightmare. Mack Jones currently is second in odds to win rookie of the year. and I think he's a pretty damn good bet. I know Jamar Chase is the favorite, but if he fades. Yeah, if he fades, which he probably will,

based on how hot he was and kind of how unsustainable that was the first half of the year. I mean, if the Pats go like 11 and 6, Mack Jones, I think. He's rookie year. But Belichick's coach of the year. But I'm curious.

You can get Matt Jones right now at three to one. My take purge, which, you know, not that we talk about it, was that I think the Patriots win the Super Bowl, which one, narratively, it's perfect

because we just did the year of the Brady. And then if the Patriots are just, They'll probably be like underdogs for every single round of the playoffs. Yeah. And then if they went and won the Super Bowl, that would be the most incredible, like, yin-yang flip. But they also just genuinely look really good, and it's kind of annoying.

You do a lot of good things well, yeah. Are you correcting my grammar? No, no. It did sound like it. They do a lot of good things. They do things good. No, I think you said it correctly. I think you said they do a lot of good things.

If you were just said they do things good. That would have been at a good place. I think I said the wrong thing. Either way, that's not what I was. The Patriots are good at football. The Patriots are very well at football. They played well. Yes.

They played. They are well. Okay. But overall. You know, we had to get that in because, you know, the ringer doesn't talk about New England very much. Yeah. Any other. Actually, you know what?

Let's just zoom out for one second. While we're talking about the Patriots, the AFC, do you guys have any idea with the AFC standings look correct, right? now. It's kind of bonkers. There are, let's see if we can count. So the Titans have the number one seed with eight wins. Yeah. The bills have six and then two, four, six, eight, ten. There are 11 teams in the AFC with six or five wins. Eleven teams have five or six wins. How is that possible? Jeez. Such a weird year. Fun though. So Denver, it's not exactly like they're all tied because like the Broncos are five and five and five and then like some teams are five and four. But still,

Like the Broncos are 12th in the conference right now, and they're 5 and 5. It's kind of nuts. That is weird. So anyway, it really is the most wide open playoff race I can ever remember. And the short answer of who comes out of here other than just betting on the Patriots, I just think it's about health. Like, I really think that's going to end up being this high break. Anyway, for comparison, just for context, Carolina right now is this is as of Sunday night.

Carolina is the seventh seed and they're five and five. The Broncos are 5 and 5 and 5 and they're 12th in the conference. Yeah, I mean, I guess to put it, yeah, the NFC has 2, 4, 6, 8, 9 teams that don't have 5 wins. And the AFC only has 4. That's crazy. Yeah, the NFC is kind of looking a bit more traditional. Yeah, the NFC looks normal. We're going to have a lot of times on about this.

Okay. Any other winners or losers? Can I, I just want to do a quick winner about Christian McCaffrey. So he came back, he looked healthy. He had 95 yards rushing, 10 catches for 6. 66 yards receiving. He was robbed of a bunch of TDs. He should have had like 40 points. I, like, I know that we're annoyed with him this year and he's been banged up a lot, but there is truly nobody like him in fantasy. Like, every time he plays, it is a, he is truly on his own

tier. It is ridiculous. It doesn't even matter who's the quarterback. He is unbelievable. It's like, he, I feel the way about him as I do about Kevin Durant offensively, where I've never seen somebody score 30 points so easily, and it feels impossible that he wouldn't score 30 points in a game. I feel like it's impossible for McCaffrey to have less than 20 fantasy points in a game. It just doesn't happen. He's so good. He's so freaking great. McAfee's so freaking game. He's unbelievable. Everything he does looks great. He's just got so much burst, man. Like his feet move at a different speed than anyone else in the field. And it feels like they get him the ball in a really smart way. It's like McCaffrey, like regardless of the coach who is with him, like they just,

he creates scheme for himself. He's so good. When New England won that first Super Bowl against the Rams, and it was like a 13-point underdog, and they beat the greatest show on turf Rams. Belichick basically said they designed the game plan as if Marshall Falk were the quarterback, and that's how I feel watching the Panthers,

and that McCaffrey might as well be the quarterback for the team. He's remarkable. It's crazy. All right. Well said. Other end of the spectrum of running backs, my winner is the waiver wire running backs from the week. My God.

Yeah. Ramondry Stevenson went on 20 carries 100 yards two touchdowns he ended up being I believe still the number one

running back in fantasy this week de Ernest Johnson for Cleveland fills in for Nick Chubb 19 carries for 99 yards also has like seven catches

for almost 60 yards RB4 and then Mark Ingram 108 total yards and a touchdown he's the RB 7 those are three waiver wire guys

that went maybe you kept Dernish Johnson but three guys that came from the waiver wire maybe this week and all them

are top seven and top eight at the position Darrell Williams Darrow Way was actually the number one. He came in late. There's another guy, kind of. Yeah.

Wow, that's crazy. Your point remains. Like, Ramonjo went off. Yeah, it was a good week for the Waverware. I made a desperation trade for Mark Ingraham this week, and I'm very happy I did that. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's why you play the Waver Wire. There you go.

I have a loser that I want to talk about. Okay. So the Mike White Hopefield era for the Jets. This is a loser or is it more like a death of an era? it ended? I don't know if it ended necessarily, but it's going to be very interesting, I think, to see what happens going forward. Mike White,

one of our favorites from the pod, like, great story, really fun to talk about. 24-44, 251 yards, and four picks. Rough, rough outing. Just overmatched, really, against Bill's defense, I would say. That's the kindest way

you could have put it. Overmatched. The Jets were overmatched. Here's the deal. I think this is going to be, I actually honestly do think it's going to be fascinating how this plays out because now this gives the Jets basically an easy out to go back to Zach Wilson if they want. However, do you think that they're going to do that? Do you think that they'll stick with Mike White for a couple more,

like another game or two to kind of just see if he can kind of keep the offense moving? Because Mike White clearly before today was able to make this offense move differently than Zach Wilson was earlier in the season. How important are wins to the Jets this year? how important is getting that culture set, I guess, or like, I don't know, like, just telling the players in the locker room that they're trying to

to win the games, I guess. I don't know, like, how that really goes as a coach. But clearly, Mike White looked like worse than Zach Wilson or basically equal to what Zach Wilson was. Did you mention he had four interceptions? Four picks. He did. Very rough. And the thing, I think

that's interesting, too, is, like, long-term, like, Mike White definitely made the offense kind of go better than Zach Wilson was. He was checking down a lot, kind of like taking what the defense was giving. Yards were yards after the catch. But like they were effective.

They were getting yards. They were scoring points. I will say the Holmes can't do that. You know, you think Mike White, you know what? I bet Mike White doesn't have TikTok. There you go.

Probably doesn't. My point. It's too busy following his brother on there. My point more is just that the Mike White style of offense is not like long term viable. Like, 40% of his targets in three games have gone to running backs. You know, Michael Carter's six targets today. Ty Johnson, eight targets today.

Yeah, he's smart. He's patient. He's almost, the show White Lotus is kind of about how awful young people are. And Mike White, look at that. He's checking down. He's being patient. He's not a millennium. But that's not going to be what the Jets.

They're not going to play Mike White anymore. We're joking. Mike White. Look, it was fun while it lasted. He was destroyed. And now they're going to go back to the guy. They took number two overall like six months ago. I want to zoom out a little bit here

because I actually think I failed to realize how bad the Jets have been, which is saying something. But like I saw this post from ESPN, Rich Samini, who's been on the Jets beat for like a quarter century. And he noted how bad the last month has been because Sean Fennacy, our boss's boss here at the ringer,

tweeted today, he's like, I might give up on football. And I was like, are the Jets worse than usual? Don't know how I was like this? Sean was trolling me about Russell Wilson today because I think he was just like, I need to feel something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, I don't think I totally realized how bad the Jets have been until I read this.

And just the last four games for the Jets defensively have been the worst yardage for four-game stretch and NFL for the Jets history. Like the worst four-game stretch ever, the most yards they've ever given up. Wait, the most ever for any team or for the Jets? The Jets have, no, they've given up the most yardage in a four-game stretch for the Jets in team history. But they've also allowed a hundred 75 points over their last four games,

which is the second most in a four game span in the Super Bowl era. It is the second worst by points. And almost worse than that, they're the only team in the Super Bowl era to allow 45 points in three times in a four game stretch. Oh my God. Today feels like a weird day to finally give up on the Jets.

Like they played the Bills and Mike White started. I'm not giving up on them. I'm just like, even by Jets standards. Dude, the bills lost to the Jigs last. offense. The Jets have like stress. This is the worst month the Jets I've ever had. I'm just saying Sean being like I think I'm going to give up football for a while. I'm like, yeah, the Jets just got shit on by the by the bills. Like hang on one more week, Sean, you can do it. Can we just take a brief pause here? Because Sean made a joke, but like, so Sean had a child. And basically he's like he should,

he's a Mets, Jets, Knicks fan, which my God, there's a reason we had him for fantasy therapy to come on. And I kind of made the case that he should do like the two for them. one for you. Like he should pass down two of the fandoms, but then give one, like a good one. Or not, don't give one. Just let them do whatever they want. Let them pick and choose.

I mean, yeah. I'm thinking seriously of letting my child. It should be Nick's Jets and Dodgers. I think Nick's Jets Dodgers is the right mix. Don't give, don't give, don't pass the Mets. Let the Mets fandom die. I think being from New York, I think picking the Dodgers is probably one of the last things he would do.

I don't think he wants to pick L.A. He should pick somebody like, you know, who's not a direct rival of the Mets. You don't know much about baseball, do you? Well, the Dodgers were from Brooklyn. The Dodgers are not its rival. No, I'm saying L.A., New York. I know they're in different divisions. I'm saying L.A. New York.

Like, I don't think anyone from New York would be like, you know what, daughter? You should root for L.A. I feel like that's the last thing you would do. I think it would be kind. You know what, anyway. It's a kindness. Yeah. I think it would be really, really selfless.

San Francisco Giants. Something like that. sure okay uh any other winners losers yeah losers uh my trust in good players yeah i feel this one i'm not even kidding this one this has been such a weird three week stretch today i was looking at my fantasy league uh that i'm in with all my high school friends and it's a super flex league not a single team in this 12 team league not a single team had over 100 points heading into sunday night football super flex and this is like three straight weeks of this it is ridiculous it's

It's been so chaotic, so much turnover. One team is good this week, bad the next week. I saw a couple stats on Twitter from guys like Mike Clay and J.J. Zachary's that I want to read. That just explained kind of what's going on. Here's what I saw. Washington entered the week as the worst team in fantasy points allowed per game. Tom Brady had 13 points today against them,

his second worst fantasy outing of the year. Okay. Antonio Gibson had his first top 10 day as a running back. It came against the bucks, the best team against the run. The wide receiver 12 this week. The 12th best scoring wide receiver this week was a man named Marcus Johnson and it was only 12 points. 12 points was the 12th best day

a wide receiver had this week. The 12th best tight end this week scored five points. And the fourth best quarterback this week scored 19. And it was Mac Jones. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on.

It sounds... It's just a mid-season law. It's like a mid-season crisis, honestly. The season's having... having a half-life crisis. Yeah, the season needs fantasy therapies. It really does. It's so true.

Also, again, I still can't get over that, you know, like in a movie when they would do like a fake phone number, like 555, 55, 55. Like, that's how many teams have five wins in the AFC. Like, I see the fake phone number when I look at the AFC stand. Like, everything's just strange. Craig, who is Ray Ray MacLeod? Exactly. He's a pun returner for the studio.

Who is this guy? Come on. This has made up. I actually legit had no idea DeAndre Carter was still in the NFL until I checked the standings today and saw that he was like a top 12 receiver. Ray Ray McLeod was the wide receiver 10 this week. Danjure Carter. Am I the only one is thought DeAndre Carter was no longer in NFL football player? I knew about him.

I didn't think he was going to be a top 12 receiver this week. Against the box. Sure. Very weird. Very weird week. I agree. I agree. Good one.

Yeah. It's just, it's just. It's just been a lot. You want to go to D.B. Cooper? Yeah. Let's do that. Biggest disappearance. This is kind of like,

I guess Craig's really giving a D.B. Cooper award to all of the good players. But we can just highlight a couple that get like everyone, all the good players get a participation trophy for not participating. And then D.B. Cooper is like the special ones who did really good at being bad. I'm going to give my D.B. Cooper award this week. Just freaking locked out the back of the, just dropped the stairs off the back of the plane,

mid-flight, walked out, dove off, never to be seen again. I don't think you walk off a plane mid-flight. Well, what I read, according to the lore of D.B. Cooper, this was one of those planes that had like the stairwell sticking out of the back. It's like sticking out of the back of the plane. This is like the old style planes. I could be totally making this up. But too many people in like movies just like the gate opens and they're just obviously going

hundreds of miles an hour in the air. and they're always just like standing there, like holding on to something. Like a pole. Yeah, like the cargo net on the back of the plane. Like, 300 miles. They're like having a conversation with somebody. I'm like, this couldn't.

What is going on? You couldn't breathe right now. What is going? Your like lungs would get shot out of your mouth. The only person I believe was Harrison Ford in Air Force One because it seemed like he had a lot of experience. Love Harrison. Yes.

Of course one. Anyway, now that we've established the visual that I'm going for, that was T.J. Hawkinson, this week. What the fuck happened here, man? I know that I'm actually not really blaming Hawkinson per se because Jared Goff is like he hit a he had a new low this week. It was terrible.

Hockinson, I don't, have you said what Hawkinson did you? One target. Zero catches. We didn't catch a ball. Zero catches. The lines almost beat the Steelers. By the way, if anyone adopted, so in one of my leagues, we have a shotgun rule. So if you if you have anybody in your starting lineup that gets a zero,

you have to shotgun a beer and videotape it and send it to your group. That's an amazing. Two players. You should do this during this podcast. Two tight ends. I had Gisicki in that league. No way. Big old fat zero on Thursday night football.

So I shot gun to beer, send it to my friends. And then I felt, I just felt, I didn't have to do it this week, but I just felt for anyone who had Hawkinson. Because Hawkinson is like a top five tight end. Zero catches.

You couldn't mix in one catch and five. quarters, just one. DK., how skilled are you currently at shotgunning a beer? Like, where are you in your career? Give me an NFL player's comp of where they are in their career that matches where you are in your shotgunning career. Ooh, I'm like Mason Rudolph at shotgunning. I'm not very good of shotgunning beer.

I mean, I can do it. Like, I'm good enough. You can throw the ball forward. I'm good enough to be, like, out there, but I'm going to embarrass myself. I'm going to get beer all over myself. I'm self-conscious about doing it. I don't like doing it. But I know how to do it is kind of the deal.

However, you are capable of performing the act. Correct. I feel like T.J. Hawkinson and Darren Waller are in very similar situations in that they are the number one receiver on their team, and they are expected to produce like that. But they have such little consistent receiving talent around them that other teams just seem to focus on them. And they're like, yeah, let other people beat you.

And the Raiders of Hunter Renfro, and that's kind of it. Deshawn Jackson did that fumble. thing again tonight, which was crazy. The lines of nobody. They have Khali Freeman, is fast. Amon Ross, St. Brown is a rookie. And like, that's it.

Yeah. And I feel like if they, if they just focus on Hawkinson, like, there's nothing, they just, would DeAndre Swift get 33 carries today? Yeah. Oh, by the way, so.

How's your PPR doing, D.K? 33 carries. No points. That's stupid. I mean, he got a lot of points because he had 33 carries. Oh, you get a lot of receiving yards. You get a lot of catches.

I'm not going to do this right now. Anyway, enjoy your PPR's. He was good. I don't understand. understand what we're arguing here. Anyway. Whatever. I'm just mad.

I'm going to give D.B. Cooper to the Atlanta Falcons because Yes. Please. They were so bad that I think the Steelers Lions game overshadowed how disgusting this Falcons game was. And it was so bad that the score at one point was actually 28 to 3 Dallas.

It was. Which honestly, the falcons, the luckiest thing that happened in the Falcons today was that the Cowboys scored again before halftime so that the internet didn't have 40 minutes to make fun of them being 28 to 3 and a half. Do you guys realize there was one quarterback in the NFL

that scored fewer points than Matt Ryan this week? Can I guess? Gough. Oh, I know who it is. Who was it? He's Colt McCoy, right? Yep. Colt McCoy.

Technically speaking, Cooper Rush scored fewer. He got hurt. I mean, he was awful. And then he got hurt, but still. Matt Ryan, 9 of 21, 117 yards. Oh, my God. The dude who replaced Colt McCoy scored more than. Matt Ryan. Chris Treveller. Case Keenham, who replaced Baker Mayfield, scored more than Matt Ryan.

PJ Walker and Cam Newton both scored more. Taysom Hill scored more. And Brian Hoyer did who replaced Mac Jones. Wait, are we, is that five backup quarterbacks outscored Matt Ryan? I didn't even think that was like possible. He played an entire game. Gaysim Hill did too. That's six. He played an entire game. Mike White did. He had four picks. It's late. God damn it. Matt Ryan was that scored by six backup quarterbacks. and the guy who's going through four interception. He had 0.68 points, less than one point. Joe Flacco threw three passes and outscored Matt Riley.

God damn it. That's seven. Wait, we have to count all the backups who outscored Matt Wright. Hold on, hold on. Strevler, who's the Cardinals third stringer. Case Keatom, who's the Brown's backup, Tason Hill, P.J. Walker and Cam Newton, so that's four. Joe Flacko's five.

Brian Hoyer is. six. Yikes. I guess it's six. Cam Newton. I have Cam. I'm counting PJ Walker as a starter, which is generous. Oh my God.

Holy shit. Brian Hoyer scored seven points. That's unbelievable. Jesus. Okay. So yeah, Matt Ryan, that's disgusting. And then obviously at the rest of the Falcons were bad. I guess Cal Pitts had 60 yards, but still.

All right. You got a DB Cooper, Craig? Yeah. It's Cortland Sutton, whose least favorite person should be Jerry Judy, because since Jerry Judy has come Coralyn Sutton has fallen off the face of the earth. I saw a stat that said, Coralyn Sutton was essentially averaging 17 points per game

when Judy was out. And now he's out, now he's totaled 17 points total since Jerry Judy has come back. Sutton's going to pull like an Odell and like kneecap Judy here like he did with Woods, do you think? You call an Odell Tanya Harding already? Wow.

I mean, I'm not saying, the most famous receiver in the NFL just like shows up and just kneecaps the least famous receiver in the NFL and Robert Woods? Should we just make movie posters instead of I, Tanya? This is like, I, Judy. It's like I, and then whoever is going to get hurt because the NFL player is scored. We have to do the I O'Dell thing

first, because that will... I O'Dell. Yeah. By the way, this is actually... I guess it would be I would... I would be... This is happening in European soccer, women's European soccer right now. There was like a woman who was arrested for hiring somebody to attack the girl

that was in front of her. It was a starter. front of her is like basically impeding her playing time. This happened. I think it was like, I'm going to get it wrong because I barely read the story, but it was like Danish soccer or, you know, one of those countries. I'm going to know, PSG women's Amanita Diallo arrested after hiring hit men. What? Yeah, not good. You kidding me? What? Not good. This is the French soccer team.

To injure team. What? Oh my God, this is crazy. This happened over the weekend, I think, or some, sometime soon, recently, I should say. Wouldn't it be I Woods because Tanya Harding is the one who got her leg bashed in? So it would be I Woods because Woods is the one who got his knee torn. Right? Right. It wouldn't be I, O'Dell. O'Dell didn't get hurt.

Tanya Harding was the one who hired it. The person. Yeah. Tanya Harding is the hireer. Hired. I thought Tanya Harding was the one who got hurt. No, no. Oh, that's right.

That's right. Tanya Harding went to. I've actually seen the movie. Nancy Kerrigan got her kneecap. Bust. Oh, right. And I taunt you're right. Even though the whole, yeah, the whole thing was like, yeah, Tanya Harding, like, kind of wanted to go through with it, but not really.

You think that Robert Woods would be like, you know, you think that O'Dell could, like, write the handwritten note that was like, hey, I didn't want to go through the Bobby Trees. I just, you know, I was like, you know. By the way, for the record, we're not actually saying that O'Dell Beckham neat. No, D.K. is saying that. Necapped Bobby Woods. Okay. We also really appreciated all of our listeners, just this will be the last episode that gets taken that we record before we get sued. So, like, we had a really good time.

And cease and desist. Preemptive, thank you, Lauren. That's why I drafted you award. All right, I got one. Stefan Diggs, there you are. Oh my God, he needed this. There he is. I love to see it.

13 targets. You only have like three top 20 games this season, I think? Yeah, he's been, I mean, not that I would say, well, he has been disappointing based on, like, what we were expecting. It's kind of hard to say that because he's still, like, clearly one of the best receivers in the NFL. But I'd say he's been disappointing. Josh Allen hasn't been looking to him. quite as often as catch rates down, his target rates down slightly.

In this game, though, it was all digsy. 13 targets, eight catches, 162 yards in the touchdown. I don't know, I just, is that something that people say? Maybe not. I've never heard that. Digsy. Here's the, I want to list, I want to list off the targets to other receivers in this game. Stefan Diggs, 13.

And then the most, the next closest person got was three. Love to see it. You love to see it. We're back. unfortunately for people that started Dotson Knox who only got one target that I'd like to note the previously mentioned line that the Jets

are the first team in the Super Bowl era to allow 445 points Yeah yeah unbelievable So anyways hopefully that carries on I just want to give my that's why draft you were to the Cowboys

I mean DAC was good Zeeke played well I mean it's almost like they racked up all these points CD Lam at 28 fantasy points but like they all did it in three quarters which was crazy. The Zique line was almost disappointing because he had so many points so quickly

and then they had to bench him. But this was the kind of dominance from the Cowboys' offense that you envisioned. And it was... Even Tony Pollard was a good standalone. Amari Cooper, disappointing. Dalton Schultz, just they didn't need him today, but overall was crazy.

So the Cowboys are an interesting one because when you look at the numbers of routes that CD, Amari and Gallup ran, like it's concerning. It's not as much volume as you really want. on. However, I think like the cowboys have the ability to be sort of like the, you know, the peak era Russell Wilson years where, or like just like last year, for instance, early in the season where, you know, he's funneling so much of the targets. Hopefully this is what happens. He's funneling so many targets to DK and lock it that even if they're a run heavy team, which the cowboys are now, the efficiency is enough to like buoy that. So like, I'm not doing a very good job of explaining myself. Basically, I have no idea what you're saying. What I'm saying is like in the, Like with the Seahawks offense... Really good improv.

High Fitch. Yes, and. Seahawks offense, generally speaking, low-volume passing game. Obviously last year in the beginning, they were high-volume passing game. But generally speaking, they're like a run-heavy, balanced, low-volume boss. Efficient. But they're so damn efficient and explosive that you can still utilize Russ and, like, the main characters of the passing game in fantasy. I'm hoping with the Cowboys being a much less pass-happy team than they used to be, that we can continue to see days like today. Does this make more sense to you?

Yes, I think to your point, the interesting number that I want to look into more, but is that C.D. Liam had three red zone targets today. He had five red zone targets the entire season coming into today. Oh, keep it going. Come on. Keep in mind. They're like, it's like Daniel DeLewis. They don't make movies often, but when they do, there we go. That's a better explanation. But I will say, it is concerning that they're not a very high volume passing offense. And that, and that, could like kind of come back to bite like bite people that are relying on these guys like CDLAM was one of my buy low candidates last week so I'm happy today however still like to

see this continue like the efficiency and everything going forward uh I want to give a panic button award and I want to give it to Aaron Jones because Aaron Jones was a borderline panic button player before he heard his knee and then he hurt his knee today yeah so like now you got it he has an MCL injury he's apparently I think he's had three MCL injuries in his career, like two on the same leg, one of the other. Two on the right leg were at the end of the season, so we don't know how long he would have been out. On the left leg, it was like two weeks or one or two games. So it doesn't necessarily have to be long term. He probably won't play next week. They'll buy week 13. We'll see.

This is great news, though. I mean, I'm really happy that it wasn't like an immediate 20. We don't know. We don't know the full Sunday night. It's still late Sunday night. Like, it could be worse. But like, the initial report was that it's an MCL and then they have to do more testing, obviously. But the, I think, I think. think the issue is that even when Aaron Jones returns, A. G. Dillon has carved out a lot of this offense. Agee Dillon had 21 carries today, I believe. I mean... Well, how many of those were after Aaron Jones got hurt? He was being utilized pretty consistently throughout the game, I would say. Yeah, I mean, they pretty much split at this point. It was, like, A. G. Dillon was getting a lot of work

in this game before, and I was really interested to see how much A. G. Dillan's role would stay, even when Rogers returned from this little Jordan Love's staycation. And I think A.G. Dillan is a lot of this offense now. And Aaron Jones is not the only good status. Dylan had seven carries at half. Aaron Jones had four. I don't remember exactly when he got hurt. But yeah, like, they're, they're leaning on him more. I was talking about this in the in the green room after at the four clock green room. And basically like, it's a cliche, but Dylan is that guy. He's, he's, I'm not comparing him one to one to Derek Henry, but he's the same style of player where like, you don't want to tackle him late in the season and late in games. He's just this big,

250 pound battering ram with really light feet and a lot of explosiveness who's just a pain in the ass to tackle. And you saw it in this game a few times. He converted a third down conversion despite being hit in the backfield. He scored a touchdown despite being hit in the backfield. Like he just pushed the pile. He ran over Bobby Wagner for a touchdown today. Like he is so powerful. In addition to having good feet, good balance, explosiveness. And I've been sort of like a truther for A.G. Dillon, you know, going back to when they drafted him. And so, you know, obviously he was, he's stuck behind Aaron Jones this whole time. But we've seen the flashes.

Now he's getting his opportunity to like really be the featured back in this offense. I would guess for at least three weeks just based on what we would know right now, which is we don't obviously know a lot. But I would guess that's like sort of a conservative right down the fairway guess three weeks at least. And, you know, he's hopefully you stashed him because he has the potential to be, like, huge the next few weeks because they want to balance. They want to run the ball. He's the top 10 running back every week Aaron Jones is out and that's probably conservative. Yeah. Yeah.

And he can catch passes too. He had two catches for 62 yards. It's not like he's useless in the passing game, which was kind of like one of the narratives coming out of college. Yeah, he's really quick and nimble on his feet, surprisingly for his body size. He's got crazy balance. He's not as explosive as Derek Henry, but he has elite elite. athleticism, first size. Any other panic buttons?

Yeah, I think I don't, did I do this last week, but Mike Williams? I think he was a bit. I think you did do it last year. I think he just panicked time. In week five, Mike Williams had 165 yards. Since then, and all of the games combined, he's at 137. I think Mike Williams has the court and Sutton problem, which is that defenses are like, screw this big physical dude getting yards downfield, we're going to let you pepper

underneath, we don't care. And that's how Keenan Allen and Jerry Jude, you get their 11 catches for. for 80, whatever yards, and it's like, defenses don't care. They don't want Mike Williams to do anything. But also, like,

the Chargers in general, though, aren't the same. Like, Herbert has had now more games with less than 15 fantasy points than he has games with more than 15 fantasy points. Like, it is... My guess,

I don't want to pretend to, like, know the deal with the Chargers' offense completely, but my guess is, like, it's one thing for Joe Lombardi to design an offense when you have a whole,

you know, off season to do it. I think it's another thing to recalibrate your offense six weeks in when people adjust to it. Yeah. Yeah. And that is a difficult thing to do on the fly. I guess my question is, is is Mike Williams

even startable anymore? You're just, Greg, you're broken. You're broken, man. The problem with the Mike Williams game is that this Vikings game was a good matchup for Mike Williams. And so, like, now it's just like a dart throw. They play Pittsburgh next week. Like, are you going to fire him up?

I don't know. I don't know. That's, this sucks. This really does suck. It's a bummer because it's so exciting. It does, but I'd be totally lying if I didn't say had a little shot in Freud for Greg. Man. It would just be dishonest. I don't like that it's there.

That's part of the course. I expect to be honest. I'm not proud that it's there, but I'd be lying if I said I was completely upset by this. This is like my favorite award now. We're not mad. We're just disappointed. Yeah. Like, I'm not mad.

at A.J. Brown. That's ridiculous. How could you be mad at A.G. Brown? I'm not mad at A. I'm mad. I'm mad. I'm just disappointed that he had one catch for 16 yards. He had one catch for 16 yards. And I'm like, you know, Derek Henry's out and Julio Jones is on IR. And I'm like, okay, so A.J. Brown, you know, what did Craig say before? That's Stefan Diggs, 13 targets. I'm like, okay, cool, AJ Brown. And instead he has one catch. The catch came on an end around. Like, they had to do the trick play. to get a weird flea flicker thing. It was like a side flicker.

I don't know what a cousin of a flea is. But it's like it was like an end around. They give the ball back to Ryan Tannel. I don't really understand what happened. But they don't want to trick play to get their best player at the ball. God, this is frustrating. I'm just disappointed. That's all.

Yeah. Very AJ Brownie. He does this sometimes. It's, it's, I don't know. Meanwhile, Marcus Johnson has five catches for 100 yards. Like, okay. Sure. Sure.

Sure. Tom Brady. I'm not mad at you. In fact, I've completely turned the corner and like I actually like Tom Brady now. It's a weird feeling. I hated him for years. Hated him in the evil empire. Now he's good at, you know, the TikToks and Instagram.

I understand he's not actually running his Twitter account, but he's still funny. He's coming out of him. I remember that home for everyone that he does not run his Twitter account. But I respect him for handing the keys to people who are funny. Yeah, he's like a silly dad. Yeah, he got drunk at the... I feel like this is mainstream, though. I feel like everyone kind of like during the pandemic.

Everyone came into the pandemic with completely different life things. But the only thing we all had in common was like, you know what? Tom Brady's cool now. Like, Jesus, Brady's pretty likable, right? Yeah. I know. It's like, it's a weird feeling. So when I finally come around, like, I can't, I can't be mad at what he did today, you know?

But I was frankly a little disappointed. We mentioned it earlier in the show. This was supposed to be the juiciest matchup. Washington had been surrendering tons and tons of yards to opposing receivers and opposing quarterbacks. It was supposed to be like this explosion game. They're coming off their byweek. They had a full buy week to rest up and get ready and game plan and all that shit.

Chase Young went down in the game. Like, Kikog in Washington's defense. And they still just couldn't get anything going. He threw two picks in the first quarter, I believe. one of which was not really his fault. I think what this says to me is when they lose Antonio Brown and Grunk and Chris Godwin couldn't practice all week. The Bucks receivers are very talented, but I think Jalen Darden was the rookie who like called that pass and then like squirted up and it became a thing. And then Tyler Johnson, who's really talented.

But like those other Bucks receivers are just Brady doesn't trust them yet or like they're not where they're supposed to be. they're not doing what they're supposed to be doing yet. And I think that kind of slows everything down because the buck's offense is like this precision machine and then you take the people out who are precise and it kind of looks like this. Also, the Washington is just a bad batch up for them in retrospect. I suppose, but they've now lost to Trevor Simeon

and Taylor Heineke in back-to-back games technically. With a buy in between. Yeah, but the Simeon Clouds, they lost to the Saints and the Saints have always kicked their ass. The Saints should beat them in the playoffs last year. The Falcons just beat the Saints and then nothing makes sense. Oh, no, you can never do that with football.

Well, if they beat them, it's like, well, the Titans are 8 and 2, and then they lost to the Jets, and then the Jets beat the lost to the bill. What's funny is that's like, none of it makes sense. That is like the sole purpose of how they rank college football,

and it's so funny that in the NFL, it almost means nothing. But in college football, it's like, hey, Oregon beat Ohio State, and like, they will have that for the entire season. It doesn't matter what they do, they beat Ohio State. And the NFL couldn't mean less.

If you tried to do that in football, like, pro football, it would be like the dumbest exercise. Anyway, so like, I feel like, The Buccaneers' offense was along those lines, like, just about the only thing in the NFL we could count on coming into the last few weeks. And now even they're falling apart. Our fucking pets' heads are falling off here. What are we doing here? Do we – I guess my question is, are we worried?

No. No, not at all. Not even a little. That makes me feel better. I mean, the touchdown regression might come, but, like, that was going to come, but I'm not worried about Tom Brady. Craig. Yes. So, I'm not mad at Russell Wilson.

I'm not mad at him. Sure. He stayed up every night for two months, putting his finger in a fucking centrifuge or whatever he did, trying to get better. He rushed himself back so he could help his team fight for a playoff spot. That is commendable. It is commendable.

However, perhaps he came back a little early. He was awful. He scored seven points, and now he's put everybody who's been waiting for two months. He's put us in a bit of a precarious situation, because now I don't know how to feel about Russell Wilson. I respect him, yes. But am I disappointed in him?

Yeah, I am. His intentions are good, but now I don't know what to do with this man. I don't know if I stay with him. It's like he's sleep deprived, man. He was working on this thing 19 hours a day. You got to get sleep. I've never had so many questions about one of those little tweet reports. Who's that?

I don't remember it was that rap report, Jake. Everybody ran with that. Everybody ran with that. 19 hours a day. I'm like, what does that even mean? This is a guy who's hashtag. He's been hashtagging for like the last 10 years, no time. I hope he's making a documentary about his career and I can't wait for this episode.

Oh, you know he is. Did you see the feature at he put together? But like on his like showing like the x-rays like in training. No, I didn't see that. Dude, I have never like had quite had the urge to like question a medical decision to like return. But like is there any argument that this was a good decision to return this week? Like this was the worst game of Russell Wilson's. career. They scored zero points. And he kind of was the reason they, like, it's not like they

were awful around. Like, he kind of was the reason they didn't score. Yeah. Is that fair, D.K.? Like, I feel like he actively took away from the scoring opportunities. He certainly wasn't helping matters. It was a terrible matchup. I mean, Green Bay, you have to give it to him. The last three quarterbacks, the last three quarterbacks, Green Bay has faces Mahomes, Russell Wilson, and Kyle Murray, and they've given up 28 points total. But if Gino Smith starts today, don't you think the Seahawks score? Yeah, probably. Yeah, maybe.

Dude, the Seahawks have, he just, Wilson has started 150 games in his career. This is the only time they've been shut out. Wow. It just kind of seems like the whole, like, I guess, let me be one for a second. Stefania Bell at ESPN is like the, she's a physical therapist.

She's like their injury expert. She kind of was trying to make the point that like, this hand injury is like one of the great, like the most devastating hand injuries, a quarterback has suffered to like their throwing hand that like we kind of like have in like recent memory. Did you see it? It was.

disgusting. The top of his like the top knuckle was like flapping around. Seeing injuries doesn't mean anything this year. Yeah, but it was gross looking. I mean, it was gross. But her point was like, this was like a serious injury and the fact that it came back fast from it should not belie the fact that like this would have been maybe career

threatening not too long ago. Yeah, that was bad. People listening can't see this right now, but like Craig is making the most disgusting gesture. He's trying to recreate the Russell Wilson finger at the wrong angle on his hand. It's hard. to make it loose so you can like wiggle it. It just kind of looks

how Calvin Johnson's fingers just look all the time. Stop doing that. You know what I'm talking about? You ever seen Calvin Johnson's hand? Like any great receiver honestly? Oh, Tori Holtz are horrible. Yeah, it's just honestly, that's kind of what Russell's... Just your fingers have been broken so many times. Michael Strayhan can like bend his middle finger to a 90 degree angle, like from the middle

knuckle. Yeah, that's awful. So can Russell Wilson now. Michael Strayan, you know why? Because Michael Strayan wasn't doing 19 hours day in the same. centrifuge. He was like, you know, working on another career. But I think this is the perfect I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed because like

I can't get mad at this guy for like working his ass off to get back onto the field. However, you did your best. It was not good enough for us. It was not good enough. Can we piggyback? I want to piggyback on this award and give one to the D.K. McAfee because hey, DK, truly I'm not mad. You got yourself

ejected from this game. Oh my God. So what happened with that? I left. I missed that. What happened? I was like, we were doing the green room while we while this happened so I didn't really get like the full story but he he got ejected for throwing a punch like he got into a scuffle and then like I think he just like sort of like hit someone in the helmet and then he tried to come back into the game which I actually respect a lot because what do you have to lose at that point? I thought this was fake when I first heard it.

That's a football guy move. Kevin Clark was like it's double jeopardy. You can't you can't get ejected again you know you've already been convicted. I don't know. So what Did he run back under the field or under the sidelines? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Pretty good move though. Anyway, I, I, I, I, he's like, what are rules anyway? Like, I mean, I'm just going to go back into this game. That's like the NFL version of a police chase. Like you're just like trying to flaunt like the like the social contract. Like the ref says you're out. You're like, D.K. McComb's like, make me. It's like a Reno 9-1-1 episode.

He's like, no. This football player won't leave the huddle. Okay, wait, quick sidebar. I'm the only person in the world who watched the Quibi shows when it was live. God, you would. You would do that. Were you like, it's the future of television? It was, no.

My thing was very simple. It was free? They spent like millions of dollars, I mean, like tens of millions of dollars, making all these shows that were licensed and like from like Reno 911. And it was like three months were free. And everyone was making fun of them. Like, I kind of went. So the Reno 911s are really funny.

Point being, Roku bought all the Quibi shows. So if you're listening, you have a Roku, the Reno 911 reboot on the Roku that Quibi is actually. I didn't know that existed. That's my point. I felt like I had all these shows and no one knew. I had no one to talk. It was like, it was like I was on an island alone.

I was like that guy in the, in the Twilight Zone with all the books, but like everyone else was gone. I'm just watching on this TV that no one else even knows. The Reno 911 movie is highly underrated, by the way. I hope Jeffrey Katzenberg is listening to this show because he would love you right now if it's I am I feel like he might be on his own little island too probably is listening to this show

probably has an island okay Cooper Cup award for player you wish I had in fantasy I mean this is Jonathan Taylor right like I think Jonathan Taylor is the numbers who are running back after Christian McCaffrey the rest of the way he had 116 yards today rushing and a touchdown he also had six sketches It's from Field Yeats at ESPN pointed this out. Jonathan Taylor is the fourth player in the Super Bowl era

with 100 yards from scrimmage and a rushing touchdown in seven straight games. Wow. Wow. And he had like the vast majority of that in the first half too. Two weeks in a row he's done that because if you watch the, like the Jets game and today against the Jaguars, the Colts embarrassed the other defense. I mean, it looks like high school when you watch this Colts rushing offense. Granted, it's too bad defenses.

But like he's averaging almost six yards. of carry on the season. I think he averaged like 10 yards of carry against the Jets and at the half time last week. Solak pointed this out on the NFL show this week. Jonathan Taylor is what we were promised that Sequin would be. This giant guy who's faster than everyone and can make everyone miss. The difference is the Colts didn't take Seekwan.

They took freaking Quentin Nelson and built a line and then got a different talented running back to long run. Here, run through these giant holes. Yeah. And like the holes are huge. and this Colts running game is crazy good. And if they had anyone other than Carson wins, it'd be really impressive.

I think that's very true and a great example of how you build around a star player. However, I don't want to take anything away from Taylor 2 because he's a really talented runner. Like, it's not just his offensive line is great. Like, he's legit good. So, yeah, I absolutely agree with this. I'm still, now I know hindsight is like 2020,

but at the time, there were definitely people who were like arguing strenuously that Taylor was, a prospect on the same level of Zeke and Barclay and some of these like Leonard Fernette, some of these top five picks in the NFL. How did he fall to the second round? I still don't really understand why that happened, to be honest. Maybe it was just because, you know, the history of Wisconsin running backs or whatever before him were hit or miss. Like, I don't really What do we have there? Monty Ball? See Wisconsin? Melvin Gordon was really good. But

Like, yeah, there was, like, a lot of, there was a lot of, like, middling guys that just, like, they were, Wisconsin basically builds their entire philosophy around running the ball and, like, huge ass offensive alignment and stuff. So, um, maybe they've produced fraud, not frauds, but you know what I mean. Like, they just, they don't stack up in the NFL quite as much. The whole time in college, no, I don't, you know, you know what I'm saying. But like, I don't, look, the bottom line is I don't really understand quite, like, now, and in retrospect, why Taylor wasn't, like, a top 10 pick, like, all these other running backs. Why did the NFL? And fall in love with them that year, is my question. Because he also should have gone earlier in fantasy drafts, too. But here we are. So maybe turn yourself on it. Why didn't we draft him earlier, D.K.? Look in the mirror.

I mean, it's a very valid question, and I regret it. And this is why he's in the Cooper Cup Award for the player you wish you had in fantasy. Good point. He's really fucking good. Mike Cooper Cup Award player for this week is Justin Jefferson, who saw a little bit of the squeaky wheel approach. Last week, Clint Kubiak, the OC was kind of basically like, we just need to get in the ball more. And they did. He had the highest target share of the season for him.

And he, to me, besides Cooper Cup, feels like the most consistent receiver in the league. He is, him and Cooper Cup are the only two guys who have had less than 65 yards only once this year. So you can depend on this guy getting 70 yards a game pretty much. And we actually bet the prop, the over 76 and a half of that hit. And it's the consistency that I love. Like that is what you want in fantasy football. Like that is why I'm jealous is the guy who can do it week in and week out. Yeah.

He's always open. that with like not very many targets last few weeks too. Yeah. Mays made a comment today that was basically called Justin Jefferson Slythery. And that's how a lot of the people on the Vikings call them. And like, I think that's the perfect word. Yeah. That's weird flex, but okay.

Matt Brita had two touchdowns to the goal today. What was that about? Yeah. The bill's backfield is a nightmare. It's like though it's actually the exact thing that you don't want because you never really know who is going to be the guy that gets a majority that touches in any given week. It's like vacillated week in and week out.

Well, he didn't have the majority. I think it was snake eyes. Like, he just happened. He had like six touches on the day or whatever. Yeah, but Singletary, so Singletary had seven. You're right, D.K. Seven carries the ball for the Buc, for the bills. I know, but Brita had six touches and ended up getting two touchdowns.

No, I know. I mean, that's obviously an anomaly. But DK.'s point of the bill's backfield being a mess. It's like definitely holds true. Breita had six touches. Singletary had seven touchdowns. touches. Moss had seven touches. Moss almost didn't play today, though.

I feel like, I think it's still Moss. I know, I agree with you generally, but like it's stressful. I don't like it. All right. Quick prop bet update. I did four this week. I went two for four. I'm upset, but like, it's all right.

Craig went two for three. D.K. Struggle. Struggle bus. A little ofer for D. It's all right. The Steelers game script really fucked me over. I'll be honest.

Strengthen number. We are together in this. Exactly. Just hemorrhaging money. D.K.'s crashing on our couch. My family is starving. Oh, boy. We're going to bounce back next week, you guys.

Calvin is eating trash. And if you burn it, it goes up into the sky and becomes stars. That's why he's getting sick. He's eating trash? All right. Oh, my God. That's all right. Okay.

God damn. I'm just like. Burnbook. I have two candidates. I'm curious if you guys have any. I have two people and I can't really decide. Okay. I mean, lay them on us.

Yeah, go for it. I don't have anyone strong. I think the first guy I'm interested in burning is DJ Moore. Ooh. DJ Moore. Yeah, this is tough. Started out good. But like if you're like half PPR scoring,

he has double digits once in the last six weeks. The only reason I'm like reticent about this is I think with Cam, in town now. Like it might change. Like it could be better. Could get better. Like Sam Darnold is bad. And PJ Walker is arguably worse. But is Cam good?

Can Cam just throw now? I don't know. Because he yelled, I'm back at the crowd. I don't know. That's why I'm just like, I guess that it was a cool bleacher report notification, but like he still has like arm strength issues. Cam ran a one yard touchdown, screamed, I'm back and then got a penalty. And I was like, yeah, that's, that's, that's, like,

Camp, no, Cammy about Carolina is a great story. But like, he is in Carolina, because everyone left him to not play for the first half of the season because he can't throw a football anymore. Well, he's still better than the same. Yeah, I really don't know. That's, but that's the reason I'm unsure because there's big changes coming. I just, I think DJ Moore is really screwed over a lot of people this season. The other person, though. Yeah, yeah, who. Dude, Jarvis Landry, man. That's who I was going to say. Odell's gone. Dude, hyphids, that's what I was going to say. So this is really, yeah.

I'm sick of it. Jarvis. Sick of it. In the, like, like, Odella's been gone now. And in the last two games that O'Dell was gone, Jarvis had seven catches for 37 yards. Like Jarvis has like a little over 200 yards on the season. I know he missed like a month with an injury, but like since he came back, he's had one even palatable performance. Palatable.

He's supposed to be the number one receiver on this team. Yeah. And like, look, Baker's hurt. Case Keenem's. Like I get there's a lot going on. But that's the point. Baker is beat up, man. Yeah, look, I'm not...

He's gone through the ring Jarvis is playing her, Baker's playing hurt, like I'm not question... Like, look, Jarvis is a tough guy like he's been, like, but fantasy-wise,

he's like unplayable. Would he be the first guy? Wasn't he in the Burnbook last year? Yeah, I think so. Would he be the first repeater? I think he would be. Because it's just like, Jarvis to me...

We might have put Robbie Anderson last year. But... I can't remember. I thought Robbie Anderson was really good last year. He tapered off as the year went on if I remember correctly.

We were ungrateful if we burned Robbie Anderson last year. But Jarvis feels no different to me than all the other waiver, wire receiver dart throws if you really need a flex. You have to pick one. I think he's right in that mix. And I don't really think he's above any of those guys. I think I'd rather burn Jarvis than DJ more. I definitely would feel more confident about that.

This is a big deal because this is, forget the prop bets. Our hot streak is the burn book. We are hot on this. We are like basically nine for ten. Can I just say Mike Davis burning him in a week four was prescient? Like, it has worked out. I think it's prescient. Precian.

I think it's prescient. Isn't it prescient? I'm glad I cut Bain a mic in September. Like it was, it hurt. But like, I'm really glad I ripped the bandit off because, God, he's just been horrifying. He's like getting benched. Like, Wade, Wayne Gorman. He's, yeah.

Well, also like the- Playing ahead of him. Not really, not really. I mean, today the snap counts, I think, are a little skew. I know. Again, the Falcons punted on fourth and two with down like 30 points today. Let's just get out of here. That's what they're saying.

Just fucking get this over with. It was sickening. It's smart. You don't want to get you guys hurt. I love it. So the burn book is Rahim Moster, week one, Marcus Calloway, week two. That's hit. We just burned Kyle Shanahan.

That's hit. Mike Davis, week four. Hit. Alan Robinson, week five. Yep. Miles Gaskin, week six. Yep. He did it again this week.

That son of a bitch. He did it again this week. Yeah. he can't keep getting away with this. Robbie Anderson, week seven. Yep. The one we're going to be put on the wall. This is the pelt on the walls.

Odell. We burned two days before his dad put that Instagram up. Week nine, we burned Julio Jones, and he got put on IR two days later. And then we, Jarvis now. So, like, our prop bets, we want to make money on those? But the burn book, we're crushing it.

I'm trying to think of which guy on this list has made the fantasy manager who drafted them this year. When the next year's draft comes around, like what guy makes them go like, oh, fuck no, am I taking that guy again? I think it's Alan Robinson. Because Alan Robinson has been healthy the whole time

and was your highest pick on this list. Because Alan Robinson's whole thing was security. And then you just, you at some point, like slowly, you started a piece together that you actually can't even expect 50 yards from this guy. And worst of all,

he'll probably be better in the second half the season once you cut him. And also it kind of depends on like what annoys you personally. Like for me, I think it would be Julio. I fucking hate the guys who just get hurt every other week. I can't stand that. At least with Alan Robinson, he's like going to play. The Julio thing, I can't.

That would piss me off the most, I think. He probably pisses the Titans off too. Can you imagine trading a real life second rounder for Julio and that I'm not playing for you in real life? Tough. Tough. All right. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you, Mike Wargonne for producing this episode. Thank you, Lorne.

Lorne. Thank you, the avalanches. Don't know who that is. You should look it up, Craig. I think you'd like it. Oh, I'm doing Green Room after Monday in football. Rams, 49ers. I'm doing Green Room.

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