The Ringer NFL Show - Week 10 Recap: Steelers Suck, Seahawks Rock, Dart Smoked, Bills Get Finned, JT Times 3, and Is Derrick Henry Too Big?

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

The guys recap all of the NFL Week 10 action by going through categories such as Winners and Losers, Fart or Shart, Intrusive Thoughts, and so much more. (0:00) Intro (3:15) ‘Sunday Night Football’: Steelers-Chargers (12:26) Winners and Losers (41:11) The Oppenheimer Award (51:00) It’s So Over. We’re So Back. (01:11:30) Fart or Shart (01:19:14) Intrusive Thoughts (01:26:41) Play of the Day (01:32:18) The WORST Play of the Day (01:34:10) Stadium Pulse of the Week (01:35:06) The Arthur Smith/Shawn Hochuli Award (01:41:25)  The Lucille Bluth Award (01:43:24) Fantasy Burn Book Check out our 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here!  Email us! [e-mail] This episode is sponsored by Chime. Bank Smarter, Progress Farther The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Dana Hyattick. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Kirk Royalbeck, and we are going over all the games from Sunday of week 10. We were 10 weeks into the NFL season. And I think our show is uniquely suited. I don't think we've ever had such a big gap between our favorite teams in the show.

Craig Steele has just embarrassed themselves live on Sunday Night of Football. My team very much, the Giants, really might fire their coach tomorrow. And D.K.'s team, the Seahawks genuinely looks like the single best team in the NFL. So I think, you know, D.K., I feel like we cover the whole range here. Juggernaut, baby. Yeah.

It's actually, it's fun to watch games that don't come down to the wire. I got to tell you that. Is it? I feel like that was boring. It was like 28-0 in the second quarter. Yeah, that's awesome. You want to sweat a little bit. What are you talking about?

I don't want to be stressed out. I have enough stress in my life. D.K., a serious question. What's up? Is it a more fun season if the Seahawks won every single game 35 to zero all the way through the Super Bowl? Yeah. Or you risk winning a couple close games. in the playoffs.

Absolutely not. Picking everyone's asses, it would be so much fun. That's lame. No, it's not. That's sick. That's lame. Everyone would say that. 35 zero is.

You gotta have love for the game. You got to have love for competition. Well, look, I've had enough close games in my lifetime. I know what they're like. Yeah. It's not like I need to remember. Yeah. I don't know.

I feel like if somebody was like, what's your favorite regular season game of all time? You would not pick a game where they won by 40. No, it's pretty cool. Well, I guess regular season game. What's your favorite regular season game? What's your favorite regular season game? The Giants beat the Vikings in the playoffs.

No one remembers this. No, no, no, no. Playoffs, not talking about playoffs. But it was like 40 to nothing. Because that's different. Regular season. If you're like, oh, what's the best Giants game ever watching the regular season? You're not going to like, oh, they won a game 35-0.

Boring. I would disagree on that. No, there's a couple. You want the last second touchdown. Those are the games that you remember. Yeah, sure, because there's not that many of them. Anyway, I think I disagree. I think I just love ball more than you guys is.

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Details at chime.com slash fees info with a qualifying direct deposit earned 1.5% cashback on eligible secured CHIM visa credit card purchases. APY means annual percentage yield. Learn more at chime.com. Okay, Craig, since you love ball so much, you must have had an absolute ball watching Sunday at football at the Steelers, didn't you? No, you took the wrong lesson.

I like close games, not blowouts. So no, I didn't enjoy this game. Nobody likes getting blown out. Although, you know, the Chargers are my secondary team. So what's funny is, like, I feel like the first half of this game, both teams look like shit. I don't even think the Chargers looked that. I mean, like, to be honest,

what I took away from this game was like neither of these teams are going to win this game was that horse thing like the television seasons like Game of thrones is like the really well drawn horse into the end but it was like backward right i know i'm like all right the charges got they could like run the ball in the second half they had the one big play to macaque but outside of that i'm kind of like neither these teams are winning the super bowl the steelers are definitely not winning the super bowl and honestly the steelers just seem really easy to beat this game this game was five to three deep into the second quarter this was a baseball game it was

Yeah. I'm just like, for how much talent they have, they're a pretty easy team to beat. Yep, yep, yep. I think there's a lot of issues with the offense. The defense is, I mean, week in and week out, I don't know. I never know what to expect with this defense. Well, they lost two corners tonight. Right.

I don't care. You also decently well. Hip drop Justin Herbert and they didn't call it a hip drop, but Justin Herbig, hip drop, or sorry, Nate Herbick, hip dropped Justin Herbert, and he was limping around. It's like the charges are healthy. Corners. Chargers are on backup tackles on both spots. I just, I thought that this Jesse Minter, the defense coordinator for the Chargers,

this was like new school, old school. This was like horses meet cars in a race or something. Like this was the Chargers and the defense coordinator throwing out every new version of defense. And like this is like the cutting edge of defense. And then Aaron Rogers, on the other hand, who has played very well and still has it. And still even tonight has throws where I'm like, man, he really is the best person he played terrible the night

he played terribly but what are you talking about he's fucking terrible no I'm saying he still has he's played all year I know I'm saying he still is the armed talent and everything but his world view of football

like the fourth and sixth play the idea that like that basically the game is on the line and like chuck it into double coverage he's throwing into Deacon McEff for it he's not Devante Adams like that's not DK. Mekhef's strength there's no crossers

there's no thing it's a one read fourth and six back and shoulder to DK. Mekheff Like, that's what he's great at. Also, the Chargers knew it was coming. It was in double coverage. I just, it's so predictable. And it's what Deke said for years about Russell Wilson or the corpse of Russell Wilson and Rogers.

Just these like the living on the low percentage impossible stuff just is stupid. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I feel like the Steelers this year are trying to do like the check down high percentage stuff because they don't have the protection and that's all they're doing. But yeah, I hated that play. That was, I hate that play in general. There's like two receivers in the league.

I'd maybe be okay with that way. It's like Drake London and yeah, I guess Devonta Adams. It was horrible. I just, it's embarrassing that that Chris Collinsworth is like, yeah. So like, here's how they beat the Steelers. They just like shifted a safety towards D.K. Metcalf and now they can't do anything. I'm like, what the fuck? One simple little shift.

It's funny to how much that really does expose. Calvin Austin had two of the worst drops. you'll see all year, one at the end of the half, where Rogers wanted to set up a Hill Mary, and it hit him in the hands. And then it really was the same play. Calvin Austin got hit in the hands again at the end of the fourth quarter. And he really, honestly, that,

we joke about Mark Andrews. Calvin Austin had a volleyball set. That looks like setting a pass up to a defender for an reception. I thought I was surprised he didn't spike it. But then it's like, Darno Washington. Oh, it's like he's a tackle. It's cool. But then he, like, runs routes and you're like,

oh, yeah, he's like a tackle. Like, no one can actually receive footballs other than D.K. How did he? There you go after Darno Washington. I love him. I love him too. He's great. I love him too.

He's not top 10 on my shit list on the Steelers, Darno Washington. Where does Troy Faultano rank? Now, both tackles have individually hit Aaron Rogers physically this year. No, Broger Jones is still miles ahead of Fautau. But Fautonato hit the ball out of Rogers' hands and they got the safety. Like, he's the order not the fallout. But Roger Jones is like actually like a liability to Rogers' health. Like he needs, that's why we have that six tackle.

that we squeeze in half the time and why darn our Washington's always next to him because he can't fucking block. So I hope he's not the team next year. So Chargers won this game 25 to 10. Honestly, man, this was 25 to 3. Honestly, in my mind, it was kind of spiritually a shutout because the touchdown came when the game is over.

The field goal is a 59-yarder. At that point, the Steelers crossed the 40-yard line once in the first three-quarters. It seems so simple now. You know, we look back on last week, they beat the Colts, right? We're like, wow. But I feel like now it's like, oh, they did have six

turnovers, the Colts in that game, and they technically only won my soul. And they also moved Jaylen Ramsey to free safety, and the Colts didn't expect it. And the Steelers got to play that card. And they're like, oh, shit, we're out of cards. Well, then they lost all their cards. So then they had to move Jail and Ramsey back to corner, which was too little too late. I have one other takeaway from this game. They mentioned it.

I wanted to talk to you guys about it. And I did a little researcher on it. Justin Herbert, our beloved Justin Herbert, the three of us love him. That man has more passes batted down than any, tall quarterback I've ever seen in my life. No. And I went, okay. And I looked it up and it's correct.

He leads the NFL and batted passes over the last five seasons. He's six, six. There was the reason for this. Shout out to Ron Yerko. Is it because his arm angles low? I had a hunch on this. And shout out Ron Yerko at Pitt, who actually assigned some of his students to work on this.

I have a theory. And I think it is somewhat statistically proven by one student in Ron Yerko's class. I think most batted passes, it's like a bell curve. No, the opposite. It's the opposite of a bell curve. It's dumbbells. It's short quarterbacks and tall quarterbacks,

but the ones in the middle are less likely to it. The shorter quarterbacks obviously are short, and so the balls are usually to hit down. The taller quarterbacks... They're throwing down? No, they're so tall, it's easier for the defensive linemen to see where they're facing. So even though they're tall, and in theory,

the ball's harder to hit. But when they turn, the defensive... They're so fucking tall, the Trevor Lawrence's, the Justin Herbert's, are so tall that it's way easier for the linemen to see it the last second and just stick a hand up. So it's like if you're 6-2, 6-3, 6-4, you're fine.

Was this? 6-5 and up or 6-1 and down, or 6-1-and-down is way easier to bet your balance. Interesting. I think that's probably right. I mean, I don't know. But my anecdotal take on this is just, it feels like Herbert has a slightly elongated release and he has a low arm.

I think so too. He has a low arm angle. I think he does. I think it's just easier to block it. throws because you can kind of see it coming just a split second earlier than some other guys. He's so tall. I almost think he thinks, oh, I don't need an over-the-top arming. I'm so tall. I can kind of sidearm it. But, dude, he gets more padded, a pass is batted down than any order I've ever seen. And the numbers suggest that.

This was a very boring game. Should we move on? The most interesting thing was Jaylon Warren's shirt ripping. So, yeah, we can just move on. I just want to do one more observation in hyphins you mentioned at the hip-jot tackle on Justin Herbert. I don't remember when it was like third quarter. No, it was first half. Oh, my bad. First half.

I have probably done this rant before, so I apologize if I'm repeating myself. But I just, I have a bone to pick with the way that TV, like these stations, these broadcasts do their camera work. And I see this like 15 times a week. It happens all the time. When a player gets tackled awkwardly, he starts writhing on the ground, people start gathering around him, and then they cut to some other bullshit that no one, wants to see. We want to see

if this guy is hurt, especially it's a fucking quarterback. You want to see him riding on the ground. No, I just need to know if he's... I don't need to see him in pain. I need to know if he's hurt. Like, I want to see him get up. But you will know. You'll know. No, but it just drives me nuts. Show DK the rising NBC, you

cowards. No, there... You want to see Cam Scadaboo's ankle turned 180 degree? Show me the ankle. Show me the tears. You guys, come on. I've complained to this. No, I know what you mean. I also want that. I've complained about this you guys before you were on my side, so now I know you're just trolling. I also do want to, I also have the same reaction where I'm like, why'd you cut from that?

But then they go to commercial and you're sitting there for like three minutes trying to figure out if like the guy is hurt. Probably because they're getting a fucking stretcher. I don't want to see like someone break their ankle. I just want to know if they're okay. They're cutting away. He's probably not okay. No, they cut away every time. It drives me insane.

Anyway, that's all I'm saying. You're right. You're right. You're not agreeing with me tonight. I also feel that way, but I think the reason is because they're probably like, you don't want to. see this. Well, it's not, no, that's not why. It's because they want to show guys celebrating and shit, but I just want to see how the guy's doing. That's all. The answer is usually poorly. Yeah. All right. Well, no. Anyway, he played the rest of the games. Again, the gap between

Craig's experience today, my experience today at DK's couldn't be larger. We go to winners and losers. I know, DK's so cocky. He's like, show me the guys whose ankles are back. Show me the fucking ankles. I need to feel something. This game is boring. My team's up 30. He's so easy. I'm like doing laundry in the second half. You literally texted us. I think I'm going to take a nap during the Seahawks. That's because for the second straight week, the Seahawks took a 28 to nothing lead in the first half,

which is never having. You could just take a nap for everything. I love it. And you're never going to convince me otherwise. It's the best feeling to go kick someone's ass. No. The pain. It's all about the pain.

Anyway, Seattle boat raced the Cardinals. They did end up making it very. interesting, or not very interesting, somewhat interesting in the second half. You were so fake nervous. I was embarrassed. I wasn't that nervous. I just was annoyed that San Bernard had like three turtles. I'm like, you're up 30.

Calm down. It's like Jesus Christ, Donald. Stop freaking turning it over. All you have to do is hand it off. But you know why? You know why that's a, I think that's fair DK is because because Donald has never proven it in the

playoffs, those moments, I feel like still linger in the back of your brain of like, oh shit. That's still within him and that's going to come out when it matters the most. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, it's like what we're going through with Danny Dimes right now, which we'll get to it later. But yeah, overall, dominant win by the Seahawks. I was stupid for thinking this is going to be a close game.

And I think I want to point out and acknowledge that it's not really that common for teams to blow out other teams like this, especially multiple games in a row. That's so weird. It happens to the Seahawks every week. You have to appreciate it. The Seahawks have been up the last three weeks. The Seahawks have been up 2080 in the second, 28 zero in the second, and 14.0 in the first. and 14-0 in the first. The Seahawks had the most points of any team this week midway through the second quarter. The Seahawks were up 35 to nothing. Eventually, they had 38 points in the first half.

No team at 38 points this week at that point in time. I also want to note, this is by the beginning of these games, a team had scored 31 points in the first half this season four times. The Seahawks are three of those four times this year. So the Seahawks had two pass at times. D.K., what do you make of the Seox team? Because the passing game, I don't know how you feel. I think it's like for basically the last month,

Sam Donald's, it's like a hot knife through butter. I actually am genuinely surprised when Sam Donald's passes hit the ground. Like his completion percentage feels like it's like 94% over the last month. The defense is unbelievable. You feel like it's top tier with Houston. difference is the Houston offense sucks. So the Houston defense is kind of playing, for lack of a better term, defense. Whereas the Seattle defense is kind of on offense all the time.

They're just constantly like attacking and attacking. They scored, to Marcus Lawrence scored two touchdowns today. The same play happened twice. That was crazy. He's the first player. Oh, sorry, the second player ever to have two fumble return touchdowns in the same game. But the same guy, forced the fumble each time. Yeah, it was wild.

It did look like you were watching a replay and you're like, oh my God, this is live. Jackson Smith and Jigba had like a game's worth of stats after the first two drives. It was like four catches, 82 yards touchdown, and then they thought he might have had a concussion. And it's like, well, he doesn't even have to come back in. He has a whole game's worth stats. I was still watch, because there were a couple of games

that were ending pretty interestingly, like Texans, Jags, all these things. I was paying attention to that. Craig just said, Loll JSN in the chat. And I was like, did that game even start? He already had like 70 yards. He had like 80 yards such. I was like, I don't even know.

The game is started yet. I lost stretch of time. I want to read one more. that and then I have to ask a kick question. Austin pulled this, I thought it was amazing. Through 10, through this season so far, 10 weeks, when Sam Donald throws in first or second down, a fifth of his throws have gained 20 plus yards on first or second down.

Wow. Which is the most in the NFL since 2000 in the Tree Media database. Second on the list is Peyton Manning in 2004 when he threw 49 touchdown passes, which was the record at the time. So if you add that, like the just what percentage 20 plus yard passes on early downs and you cross filter that with like 10 yards per attempt. It's just Kurt Warner from the greatest show on turf rams, which Super Bowl winning MVP, Peyton Manning 04 MVP and Sam Darnold this year. That's the passing game. Yeah.

The defense is like the best in the NFL. Running game sucks. DK, do you think the Searks are going to win the NFL? Do I think they're going to win the NFC? No. Do you think you're the best team in the NFC right now? They have a good chance to. I think they're one of the top teams in the NFC.

Okay, but like, obviously. Okay, well, what do you want to say? No, I don't think they're going to the Super Bowl now. Do you think they're the best team in the NFC right now, the Seahawks? No, I think the Rams are. And they play the Rams next week. In LA, yeah. No, I'd say the Rams, they still need to catch the Rams.

So I... And the Eagles play tomorrow and we'll see how they do. I think we should go out of order right now because, Craig, you had the Rams for Oppenheimer, but we have to do this. I think we have to do this now, because between the, Seahawks playing the Rams, the Lions play the Eagles and Sunday football. I mean, honestly, there's a larger question here also about whether just frankly the NFC has retaken the throne from the AFC.

The NFC just seems like a better conference right now between watching the Lions play, the Eagles and Packers Monday and Football TBD. But between the Lions, the Rams, and the Seahawks just absolutely throttling in the late window. I kind of feel like after the AFC has been so much better for so long with, like, Lamar and Joe Burr, and Mahomes, obviously, Josh Allen. Today I was like, I think the NFC is way better than the AFC. Don't you feel that way, Craig? It's certainly deeper.

I mean, the NFC North and the NFC West, I would say each have three teams that I think are playoff teams. Like Packers, Lions, Bears, Seahawks, Rams, Niners. I think it's the deepest by far. And I mean, I still probably, I guess I'm still picking the team with four losses in the Chiefs. I still think they're the best team in the league. But there's third in their field at FC teams.

I still think there's like way less fraudulent teams in the NFC versus the AFC, I guess is how I would put it. I think teams like Denver, I don't, I'm nervous about teams like the Colts I'm nervous about fucking the Steelers, yeah, right. The bills, like I'm incredibly nervous about it. The Chargers I don't really trust, but there are so many more teams in the NFC that actually trust are good. I think I kind of do.

Yeah, a little. Just the coaching, you can't quantify the coaching impact of Rable. But I think they're getting caught in a Patriots conversation now. I want to, Craig, I want to hear about the. The Rams just, I know we're going a lot of warrior, but the Rams were so good. Yeah, I mean, obviously, look, the Oppenheimer Award, if we have to give one, it would go to Jonathan Taylor. But if we're going to talk about the Rams right now, I do want to point out what Matt Stafford's

doing, and I think he deserves, he's the quarterback Oppenheimer of the day. Matt Stavvert has 25 touchdowns. Yeah, the month. Yeah, exactly. He is the number one quarterback in fantasy over the last four weeks, which is crazy. Like, that is not what you think about with Matt's, they can't move. Yes. To me, it's like, you basically, to not be a running quarterback and to play.

play well in fantasy. It's so fucking hard. You basically have to be perfect. And that is what Stafford's been. He's averaging, this guy's 37 years old. He's basically statistically having the best season of his career, of his entire career. He's averaging 21 fantasy points per game, which is the best of his career. He's averaged 27 points per game over the last month, 25 touchdowns, two picks. He's on pace for, I mean, technically he's on pace for 47 touchdowns and four interceptions. And it just feels like him and McVeigh, feel more connected than any coach quarterback combo in the league. The Rams front office does such a good job of bringing in wide receivers

that work with Matt Stafford specifically. Like I feel like sometimes it's like, oh, like D.K. Metcalf and Aaron Rogers make no fucking sense. But it's like Devonte Adams is the perfect fit for what Matt Stafford does. And they do a really good job of like actually, you know, poaching people for chemistry. And that's why they're doing so well, I think. Devante was the perfect edition, just man coverage, Pookin's own, Devante, a man. I also want to shout out another stat, Austin sent my way that was amazing about the Rams.

That was, this was really informative. So basically the same way, we've talked so much about how Sean McVeigh does like all this 11 personal stuff, which is, I hate the term 11 personnel. It was a while ago. Three receiver sets. But the idea, like, literally, literally the Rams would run 98% of their formations were the same people. on the field, which the idea is just like Greg Maddox pitching, where it's like every pitch looks the same as long as possible.

It's the same thing in football, where Sean McVeigh wants every play to look the same as long as possible. And the best ways, wow, if Robert Woods and Cooper Cup can block kind of like tight ends, you can run all your tight end stuff out of these three-receivers sets, but still have a passing game, but you can also still run without compromising any three-receives sets, so everything can look the same. They're doing different concepts out of the same formations

and personnel. Yeah. And the defense never knows what's coming. And it's kind of like if Greg Maddox's curveball, he throws it the exact same, like, motion and the same hit as his fastball. So anyway, Austin sent me this thing. This week, the Rams ran three tight ends on the field at the same time. 60% of the goddamn game.

The Rams have ran. The Rams went from running three tight ends on the field at the same time. One out of every 200 plays. Even last year was one out of every 200 plays. Nobody plays 13 personnel. This year. This, like the last month, the Rams have done that half the time. Not really, 40%.

But, but basically. That's with Higbee, Parkinson, and Ferguson. Oh, but when the Steelers do it, it's fucking lame. Yeah, because it doesn't fucking work. Here's the deal. It doesn't work really well when the Rams do it. The Rams. I know.

I understand that. There's success rate on three persons. I saw this. I think Jordan Rodriguez posted this. Their success rate on 13 personnel this week was like 70 or 65% or something like that. It's like the best ever. The Rams are literally based. They're basically, they've become the best team ever at running three tight-in sets.

And they're doing it in part because of necessity. I mean, Devante Adams shoved his face. He, like, ran in face-first into a camera, catching a touchdown. I don't know if they had to play more of it. But the Rams have been running 40, 45-ish percent, three tight-in sets the last month. And this is fascinating. I don't want to overextend my knowledge at how much X is and O's. But I really do think that the simplest way to look at this is the three-receiver stuff with McVeigh was,

what if we could do our major in passing stuff, but we could still have a totally legit running game in a pass formation? And now the NFL, I mean, it's been 10 years, really. The NFL's come all the way around where McVeigh is like, we're going to actually be able to pass out of these run formations

to the point where this is part and part, this is essential to the question of, how does Matt Stafford have 20 touchdowns and no picks in the last four weeks? It's because everything they do, every other play is a run formation. and it's perfectly designed and there's no right answer. By the way, they also have the fourth best run success rate in the NFL.

It's crazy. In addition to Matt Severn is, he's like, he has 20 straight touchdowns without a pick, 20 touchdowns and zero picks since week four. And by the way, they're also one of the best run teams in the NFL. The best coaches adapt. It's like the opposite of what the Steelers are doing defensively. And like the fact that McVeigh ushered in a whole new era of offense and then has essentially just like pivoted completely away from that and is just doing something new.

it's like I it's like fashion honestly it's like yes when you're 30 years old you kind of just wear what you wear for the rest of your life and you do you stop keeping up with the trends and McVe is like no every five years like I'm gonna change and I'm gonna be wearing different stuff and then by the time he's 60 he'll be the coolest guy ever because he'll be you know he'll be Paul Newman by then instead all the other dads are out there wearing you know I guess my dad wearing champion in 1992 has now come back around but oh yeah broken clock is right twice a day but yeah McVeigh is just like his willingness to adapt and grow is really impressive. They've gone from being super wide zone heavy to doing duo.

Now they're doing all kinds of different stuff. And it's like every year they're just giving defenses more problems to solve. And it just keeps them on their heels constantly. They have a great quarterback that can run all the stuff that he wants to run, which is also, it's like that's why the relationship between the quarterback and the coach is so important. Dude, we don't talk enough about his no look shit. I know.

Yes. We don't give him enough credit. Honestly, once a week, he, he will legitimately throw like a 30-yard post without looking. Right. Like these aren't dump offs. Like into tight windows too. He is looking to the flat, throwing across his body.

Eyes don't move 30-yard post right in his hands. Yeah, it's insane. DK, where does stat- Craig always jokes that our grandkids will pull up Derek Carr's stats and be like, oh, it looks like Mahomes. But where does Stafford rank? Because I think it's changed a lot even in the last four or five years. Well, obviously Super Bowl. But even since then, where does Stafford rank and just, you just. Just like best quarterbacks you've seen with your own two eyes.

That's, I mean, that's a really hard question, but he's up there. He's in the elite class. I asked this because even when I started work at the Ringer, I remember Kevin Clark had this piece like 2017 or something where the idea was players like Matt Stafford in this passing era are going to like, Matt Ryan is a better example now. Is someone's going to be like really high in yardage? Yeah, yeah. But who cares? Because the yardage leader used to be like Brett Farve and Drew Breeze and Tom Brady, great players. And then it's like is Matt Ryan?

Was he going to be top seven in yards? What does that mean? And one of the examples was Matt Stafford, because Matt Stafford was not perceived as a capital G great quarterback. And then now in his late 30s, to Craig's point, we don't talk about enough. Matt Stafford is like one of the best quarterbacks I've ever seen. Drew Breeze was incredible and Drew Breese had this pocket manipulation

and the offensive, which are amazing. Stafford's better. Stafford's way better than Drew Breese. Like the overall conductorness of it was cool with Drew Brees. But you watch Stafford on a week. week to week basis, it's flawless at times. He's like a power thrower and also a touch thrower. He can just do everything, basically.

He can't move, which is fine. But it's almost more impressive. Yeah. He's not Greg Maddox. He's a little bit old school. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, he's always been one of the most impressive, like, throwers of the football, throwers of the football.

But now when you add in the touch, the no look, the different offenses that they're running, you know, the clutch stuff. Now he has a Super Bowl. I don't know what else you're asking for other to to not think he's great. And his back is fucked. They had a trailer in the parking lot for his back. They cloned his ass. They're like, Brady got ahead of this.

They cloned his ass. Oh my God, you're right. That's what I was going to say, Hyfe. It's, I'm like, it's not as though he's missed, like, he's kind of the opposite of Brady and that Brady aged so gracefully because he's like, always healthy, obsessive about his health. I'm sure Stafford is obsessive about his health. But like, this poor guy,

every single season is like, is his spine going to hold up? I don't know. And then he just shows up. Well, that's, I think. Craig, that's the other thing that you, I think, need to appreciate about him. And people maybe don't do that is that he's really tough. Like, he gets fucking. He's the toughest guy in the league.

He's a shit kicked out of him. And he still just plays almost like all the time. It's crazy. Craig, you guys are both sorry, but Tom Brady is that old person who turns 100 years old. And they're like, don't smoke. don't drink, pay your bills. And then Stafford's the one. It's like two whiskeys.

One at night, one in the morning. Cigrants in between. Bacon and a Coca-Cola to start my day, every day. Yeah. Feel great. Oh, my God. All right. Seahawks, Rams, actually, would be incredible.

Next week. Yeah, that's going to be amazing game. Yeah, the NACA, right now. What do you think the spread's going to be in that game? Let's do guess the lines. Seahawks Rams. It's in L.A. That's a good question, man.

I don't know. I'll look it up right now, but I want. Rams minus three. I'm sure it's a pickum just switch to home spread. I'm sure it's just two and a half. I think it'll be, I don't think it's going to be three. I think it's going to be Rams by one and a half. It'll be two and a half.

It'll be Rams two and a half. I'm telling you. Let's see. Because they're even. Like it's, let's see. So, D.K. says three.

You say two and a half. I say one and a half. We should do this every week. This is fun. This is a really good idea. This is actually really good. Austin says it's two and a half. Oh,

rhymes minus two and a half. Real quick, though, before we move on, is like, I'm a little worried both the Seahawks and the Rams are peaking too early. Do you ever think about that? Sure. The difference that really get to this. You just need to stay healthy. Yeah.

The health is obvious, but also the Seahawks can't run, which is funny. Well, they ran well today, but yeah, generally speaking, they've been bad. The Rams thing, I think the health certainly, because Devante, again, his back hurt or whatever. Yeah, the health is obvious. But it's just, it's funny that you guys can't run or you depend on Donald's a funny little wrinkle. But yeah, you did run better. We have to get to the loser. though in the AFC, Craig.

I think there was a lot of losers today, but there was one that was probably a little more high profile that we had expectations for. My loser of the day is the Jacksonville Jaguars, who lost 29 to 36 to the Houston Texans and Davis Mills. The Texans were outscored. I'm sorry. He says the small number first.

Yeah. I'm sorry. Is this the first time he watched football? Sorry. Isn't it all sports? It's not just football, right? Is it just football? I don't know.

It is. I think it's all sports. It's just funny that you said that way. I want to emphasize that they lost and give them the lower number first. The small number first. Yeah. The Texans outscored the Jags 26 to zero in the fourth quarter. I think that's so much worse than the Broncos.

The Giants are like, thank you. Yeah, I was the only good thing that happened to me today. With Davis Mills. This game started with the worst interception you've ever seen by Davis Mills. The Jags were up 20 to 3 in this game. The Jaggs got a punt return touchdown in this game. The Jaggs went up 17-0-0, even though their offense at that point in the game had 45 yards.

The final drive of this game, Davis-Mills got the ball on his own seven-yard line and marched 93 yards down the field, scored a touchdown with 30 seconds. 14-yard run, too. 14-yard run to win the game, and then Trevor Lawrence gets the ball back. he he they have 30 seconds left they have the kicker that can kick it at 75 yards cam little

Lawrence has an act a great scramble that gets them out of bounds at their own on their own 45 yard line so 55 yards away from the end zone there's 13 seconds left so right there and then that's a 72 yard field goal which is like I mean cam little's hit a 70 yard so I mean in theory you could just like throw the ball away twice and he could even try that and instead they get an illegal hands to the face and then a strip sack touch you down to close the fucking game. I mean, that was the worst play of the day. That was the worst play of the year.

Maybe just in terms of someone's stock coming down. I said on the Friday show, I was like, I want to see if Trevor Lawrence can just not do anything stupid. It was all I wanted from him. But I watch this game. That's way too much to ask. What are you kidding? I just, it was unbelievable.

Come on. They lost 2936. Baby steps. 2936. I will say this. They lost 2936. This game is going to stick in my mind way longer than I wanted to. 2936.

I don't know why I did that. It's really funny. 2936. The Chiefs won the Super Bowl 10 to 41. Well, if you're saying the team lost, I feel like... I know, it's just funny. Here's the thing with this Jags game. I don't know if you guys saw this.

They were hit you in the chest the way it did me. The field, that marker, which is a good innovation from CBS and all the networks, of where the field goal, like the field goal ranges. Yeah. That shit was at the 50 today for the Jags. which just knocked me sideways, like to see the field goal range is at the 50. And I literally, this occurred to me.

I was like, I would argue objectively, Trevor Lawrence's job to get to field go range was easier than anyone who's ever played football at any level. It has never been easier to get in field go range. You don't have to get to the other team's territory. The neutral yard line is fine. And he fucked up. It was at the 50.

So isn't it you add 17 yards? Or is it? Yeah, 17. 17. So like even that, like even midfield is like, I mean, you could maybe kick it back. He made it. Yeah, 49 is fine. 48.

At the end of the half. He fucked it up on the final drive, obviously. But even the drive before the final drive, he screwed that. Like, they, the kick. This was forgotten, but, um, uh, basal toot and returned the kick to like the 40 or something, the 45. they needed like six yards or they need like eight yards off the kick return. And they got like six.

I was furious. It's not happening. It's not going to happen. I know the Texas defense is good. Trevor Lawrence. Yeah. But they needed to get to the 50. Like halfway there.

Anyway. They've lost three of their last four games and their only win is against the Raiders by one in overtime. And they probably should have lost that game. I mean, D.K., if I had told you and you came out of a cryosleep like Austin Powers, They said one of these got quarterbacks is drafted first overall with like Peyton Manning-esque expectations. Oh my God. Who would you pick? Davis.

Wait, wait, D.K., you have to read the stat about Trevor Lawrence and Davis Mills that blew my fucking mind. I saw this. I can't take credit for it. But Trevor Lawrence in his career now is one in three against Davis Mills. Say that again. I think Davis Mills has started like six total games. It's one and three against Davis Mills. That's sick.

I saw it. I did. To be honest with you, I didn't. didn't vet it. I just saw it and I'm like, I'm using it. I'm pretty sure it's real. Davis Mills has five wins in his career. No. Okay, that's according to pro football referee. He has five wins in his career.

Three of them are against Trevor Lawrence. Wait, I'm going to look this up right now. I guess maybe it has a factored in that today, maybe it's six. Oh my God. Oh, my God. It's true. Jacksonville, Jacksonville. Yep, it's true. And then today, Jacksonville. Well, he certainly has three wins against the Jaguars. Oh my God

I think this is true It's yes It's true Oh my god Yeah he's three and one against the Jaguar Today was his Today was his sixth win As a starting quarterback

We don't have to spend too much more time on this I will just shout out Danil Hunter was unbelievable for the Texans He had the three and a half sacks He's a monster Nico Collins was actually pretty great as well He was And Derek Stingley He's been fucking grinding this year

Nico has been grinding He was great Niko just knows to the grinds. Poor Nico is just like walking uphill to and from work. I just want to shout out Derek Stingley, who quietly had two different shoestring tackles, one on ETIN and one in Jacoby Myers, that totally either one would have totally ended the game.

And he actually kind of saved me twice. On Friday, weren't we talking about maybe betting the Jags because it was like embarrassing that they were like, nope. I'm not betting driver long. Halfway through this game, I was like, sorry, guys. I feel bad. I talked us out of this. Now I don't feel bad at all.

Thanks, D.K. Yeah. Okay. I want to get another winner I have here. I want to shout out to Mike McDaniel, the Dolphins, who we, especially I make fun of relentlessly, and have mocked and just really just paraded around their failures for a long time. And they did great,

and they kind of kicked the shit out of the bills today, and they deserve a win. And I want to, frankly, this obviously means nothing in terms of the playoffs or whatever, but the Dolphins fired Chris Greer, the GM, who's frankly done a terrible job and deserved it. And I am really impressed that, what I'm saying, I'm impressed that Mike McDaniel kept this team around and they didn't quit.

And not only has the T, dolphins not quit, they looked way better and like they were trying harder than the bills. Not trying harder, but like they were just a way more cohesive team. And all three phases. I mean, Miami's last 15 games versus Buffalo. They were one and 14. And then they came out and they beat the bills today. what was the final score is 30 to 13.

Yeah. I mean, this is as good of proof of concept as you can absolutely ask for in terms of firing the GM and keeping the head coach because you believe in him. They go out and do something

they've like not done in years, which is, you know, dominate the bills. And the things that, I think also the things that you like about McDaniel were definitely apparent in this game. Tua was pretty sharp.

You know, he didn't like pass for a ton of yards, he had a couple picks. But overall, he had a really nice touchdown throw. to waddle. And then also the run game was like incredible with Achan. Achan rush for 174 yards and 22 carries.

He also had 51 yards on receptions. And I don't know. Like it just, the proof of concept was there in terms of this is what the offense that we expect for the, for the dolphins. And he had the team up and excited to play and the vibes were good. And that's all against a team that's absolutely just fucking dominated you for years.

It all seemed like it was the game could not have started more like, oh, here we go again. Miami to Buffalo. The game started with a false start that Mike McDaniel got so mad about that he called a timeout to argue with the refs. They called the timeout with 15 minutes on the clock in the first quarter.

I don't know. I try to search this. I couldn't figure out how. I'm sure it's never had. I don't, a penalty and a timeout used before any clock has run off the game. That's got to be the first time ever. Very short list.

I couldn't believe that. And then guess what? What other reason would you have to call time out before the game starts? Two plays later, two or throws. a pick. So three plays into the game, they had a penalty, a timeout, and a turnover. And it was a stupid-looking turnover, too.

And I was like, oh, well, this is why I always cite the Bills can't, the Dolphins can't beat the Bills. And then guess what? They totally shut down the Bills on offense. The Bills' first five drives was basically three, three an ounce and a turnover, a fumble and a pick. And then Tua had a touchdown to Jail and Waddle that did not look like it was a pun. It actually

looked like an actual air-dropped throw. It's like a perfect pass. Devon Aitchin. It was 22 carries, 174 yards, two rushing touchdowns, 40 fantasy points. He sealed the game in like a big boy running back way, like kind of two different times. He was the top three running back on the day or the day of big running backs. But the bills also look, this was really also concerning for the bills. I think really concerning if you, for the bills fans, think there's Super Bowl contender.

This is why I'm kind of out on the AFC. We don't have to go all into the bills trials and tribulations, but they can't really stop the run, especially to the perimeter. But the offense, they kind of can't be in this passing only situation. It's like, I feel like even three or four years ago, it was the bills can pass, but they can't run. It's a total role reversal. Like, you really felt the absence of a digs, even the absence of, I don't want to say, hell, Gabe Davis, but it's like, you really can feel like, Donald KKK goes out of the hamstring.

You're like, oh my God, it's Kalushikir. Like, no one can get open after you don't have any fast guys. There's no speed. Like speed element, lid lifter. I saw, I mean, you know, Bill's fans were kind of melting down a little bit online today because of this loss. And I think part of it is the hubris of Brandon Bean, who is their GM and was like getting in the media and telling him to shut the fuck up because we have the highest scoring offense, even though everybody wanted them to go get another receiver in the free agency and all that stuff. And at the trade deadline.

And it feels like hubris a little bit from his point of view that that kept them from them from making any move at this trade deadline. So Bill's fans are Yeah, because he really talked out. I was like, yeah, these new GMs like to make trades. And they're like, yeah, because they're not afraid. It was weird. But yeah, the bills, they just, it just, I guess the best way could put it,

you know how Josh Allen can throw football like 70 yards? When's the last time you saw them do that? Over them, their mountains. Yeah. Like he doesn't, like Josh Allen, it's kind of like what happened in my home's a few years ago. Like he just doesn't throw out. It's like Stafford, all these guys are throwing down field again.

Not Josh Allen. I know. I feel like this game confirmed that Mike McDaniel and two are going to be back next year for the Dolphins. I don't know about. Yeah. I put it this way. If Mike McDaniels fired, I'd take him over Brian Dable. Which I think is kind of the point.

Should we get to the giant? Should we get to John Taylor? Should we get to the Giants? What do you want? I feel like John Taylor had a better day than the Giants. So we should do John Taylor. You think? Sure.

Out of respect. All right. Oppenheimer. John Taylor just is Oppenheimer. we're going to name this like the Robert John Taylor Award or whatever for the player who went nuclear. Jonathan Taylor in this Germany game this morning against the Colts against the Falcons. It's funny that we're like, oh, well, MVP's, you know, can't go to a running back because the running back's not the reason they won the game. Jonathan Taylor won this goddamn game for the Colts.

This thing was crazy. He actually might be the MVP. 31 to 25. It's a great year for him to win the MVP because it feels like there's no kind of like front runner in terms of like the Trident Shoot number one over. Seed Mahomes, Alan, like, it's probably not going to be either of them. It could be Taylor. It's funny because it's... It won't be, but it could be.

Right. I'll go through the number. Well, the MVP thing's funny because I was thinking about this a lot. Running back should never be MVP because valuable. Matt Stafford, 20 touchdowns, no picks, 25 touchdowns, two picks in the season is more valuable. But I feel like we're a little fucked up because there's no criteria for the award an MVP. And I feel like we're a little fucked up by this now.

We have a little force for the trees. The term value happens to have been. completely redefined in the last 25 years to be like valued in the sport. I feel like before we were born, Craig, what it was supposed to mean was who had the best year. Best season. 100%. And like John Taylor's having

the best year, but he's not the most valuable player. And we almost need a different award that's for who had the best season. I know. Whoever, whenever the term MVP was invented, it's a bummer that they happen to land on those three words. Valuable. Because unfortunately,

the word value has just fucked everything If the award was just like, yes, best season, best performer, best year, so many more players would probably win it than just how we got to give it to a quarterback. And they have offensive player of the year. Yeah. But it's a little flaccid. It's like a runner up. That's a secondary award.

Yeah. Big time. It's not. It's not. Yeah. We almost, yeah, I don't know. Wait, hold on real quick. Because he had, if you didn't see, he had 32 carries for 244 yards.

He had his fifth three touchdown game of the year. Ten weeks. Ten weeks. Ten games. Ten games. Half of the weeks, he's had three touchdowns in one games. It's insane. Which is a lot.

He is doing the Sequin Barclay this year. He had an 80-something yard touchdown again today, which is like slightly better than his 80-something-yard touchdown last week. He's just doing this thing where, I mean, it just reminds me so much of what Seacquan was doing last year where it just kept like breaking open these massive huge rushing days and huge touchdowns. But the difference is that the Colts... When Seacquan went to the Eagles, we knew the Eagles did the best offensive line

in the NFL. We went to the Colts. We were like, the Colts offensive line was a massive question mark in multiple spots. Outside of like even the left tackle Bernard Raymond,

even like Quentin Nelson, there were like some questions. It's like the second time in two weeks that Jonathan Taylor has just been like emerged from the scrum to run 80 yards for a touchdown. It's not like he's running through wide open lanes. Had the walk off touchdown in overtime.

He ended the game. But also just, I mean, the numbers are unbelievable. 286 yards from every, every week, by the way, it's like this.

every touchdown is different. 286 yards from scrimmage total. He had the most rushing yards, obviously most rushing yards of any running back this season, like in this game, 244 rushing yards was the most of any running back this season. His longest rush of his career was today, which was an 83-yard rushing touchdown.

That was also the touchdown that broke the record for most Russian touchdowns in the history of the cults, which is breaking a record held by Eddrey James. And he did that with the longest rushing touchdown of his career. And he did it. 48 fantasy points. And he did it in 10 games. He did it in 10.

He has 17 touchdowns in 10 games. And again, a guy hasn't had 20 rushing touchdowns in his season in 20 years. I saw this from Joyne McFarland. Steelers kind of bottled him up last week. 45 yards, scoreless. That's crazy. For context, Jonathan Taylor and PBR, he's averaging 27.4 points per game. This year, according to Jain McFarland, this is the second best.

fantasy football season for a running back with Sheaver tight end since 2011. So he's up there with like the Christian McCaffrey, Todd Gurley, Levyon Bell, Cooper Cup, all time fantasy seasons. I guess that's obvious, but it's pretty crazy. What he's doing this year? I spent $650 on him in the guillotine league. I'm in week three or four. He, I am like, he is dragging me to the promise land. He has three touchdowns every other week.

He got me 49 points today. I don't even need any other players. The best way I could put it is that in the same. game, Drake London with the Falcons played. Drake London had 21 points and half PPR. He was the number one receiver in the week. Jonathan Taylor healthily had more than double as many points as Drake London. Like Jonathan Taylor doubled up the number one receiver on the week and had like a touchdown worth of points to spare.

So that's a lot. It's one of the better fantasy. Like I even think, you know, the McCaffrey year, the girly year. Those guys were first round pick. Like the fact that Jonathan Taylor was just kind of like a throwaway selection in the third round of draft this year. I don't know. I guess Cooper Cup was kind of like that maybe that year. McCaffrey was the second.

Gurley was the first. McCaffrey was the second. Taylor was like just completely off the radar. No, it was like I guess I'll take Jonathan Taylor. Yeah. And he was over flexly. He was a pick where you're like, ah, I got to take him here. And I.

Who did you take ahead of him? I'm just smarter than you guys. I took him first. He took Chase Brown. Yeah. No, no, I just, I literally. I was joking. Like I literally took Jalen Hertz.

Then I got McCaffrey. I was between Chase Brown and John Taylor. And I was like, ah, John Taylor's boring. Chase Brown's cool. I took Chase Brown. John Taylor came back to me in the fourth.

I don't even want to know who I picked for. And it was, but that was the joke. I literally was like, oh, I think I have a fiduciary duty to take Jonathan Taylor. And it's just,

that's how it works, man. And that ends up 50% of season. I mean, I didn't know he's going to score three touchdowns a game. If I had known, I would have taken him earlier. We'll be better next year. We'll figure that out next August. We're going to work on it.

Shut up there. Jamir Gibbs also, it's funny, too, because Jamir Gibbs had like 40 points today and like he's not even Oppenheimer. He's like 200 yards. Casually had 170 yards and three touchdowns, but, you know, come on. Jamir Gibbs, real quick, lingering on that. Somebody posted the first three seasons of their careers, Jamir Gibbs and Barry Sanders, and the numbers are strikingly similar.

It's fucking crazy. So, Jemir Gibbs is a very good player, obviously. But I think the big story here was for the Lions, Dan Campbell took over play calling. So now I can officially no longer feel bad about forgetting John Morton's name every time we were talking about the Lions this off season and most of the regular season.

He basically, I don't know if this is going to be something that happens the rest of the season, if he's like taking over for good or he just wanted to provide a spark one game. He was pretty wishy-washy about it in the presser. I think he was just trying to do that out of respect to John Morton and he is in fact going to keep calling plays,

especially because they just kicked the shit out of the commanders. But, yeah, Dan Campbell called a brilliant game, honestly. It started out, I think, on the first drive, there was an angle route out of the backfield for Gibbs. This is coming off of Gibbs' worst game, maybe as a pro, maybe not as a pro,

but his worst came in a long time. Last week against the Vikings, where he only had a few touches. He was really ineffective. This week, 36-half pBR points, 15 carries 142 yards and three touchdowns. He also had three catches for 30 yards and score. Did I get that right?

He had three scores on the ground. Maybe I wrote the down wrong. They had two on the ground one in the air. He had three total touchdowns. And then also importantly, and this is something the Lions have been talking about all season trying to do, James and Williams came alive in this game. And I think that's huge for their offense because he is that explosive field tilting guy that can open up everything else.

because if you have to fear Jameson Williams, it totally changes the geometry of how you play defense. So James and Williams six catches, 119 yards and a score. He's so fast. Dan Campbell figured out in the middle of this game that Jameson Williams was so much faster than everyone on Washington

that he just called the same place six times at 12 play stretch for James and Williams. They scored points on their first eight possessions. And that was that. Gibbs, Jemir Gibbs. I mean, first of them, between John Taylor and Gibbs, they just kept flashing these graphics that, even but like I think the networks do a good job of having here is this player since

that I was like but the Gibbs ones were I mean most touchdowns by a player before turning 24 like Jameer Gibbs passed Rob Grancowski today really player touchdowns for 20 it was like him and like Maurice Jones Drew the other one that this one is just unbelievable I don't have the exact list in front of me I have I'm pretty sure this is correct but the list play of players Jemir Gibbs passed running backs Jemir Gibbs passed in terms of touchdowns before 24. It was literally, it was Marshall,

sorry, it was Emmett Smith, who was the most rushing yards ever. It was Barry Sanders, and it was Jim Brown, who's like, considered the best running back ever. It was Jamir Gibbs

and then Marshall Falk. And I'm like, that's just like inner circle running a call famers. Yeah. Special, special player. Arguable Mount Rushmore running backs,

and it was just Jimere Gibbs. And it actually changed the way I thought of him because he's been so good for so long. I was like, this motherfucker's not, 24?

I just, I don't know. Yeah, it was pretty cool. What's all? Anyway, can I just break the fourth wall here and say Hafeitz just cut out for a second? Craig, did you see that too? Yeah. Oh no, you haven't heard anything. He comes back and he goes, this motherfucker's 24? I was like this close to being like, oh, he cut out. And then you just came back, this motherfucker's 24.

That's funny. Speaking of Mount Rushmore running backs, it's time to get to it's over, we're so back. Oh, my God. I know where this is going. This is a big day. We're so back, Travian Henderson, people. Hell yes. We did it.

We fucking did it. It took 10 weeks, but we did it. I started them every week and it was worth it. Two house calls today, baby. Two house calls 27. Speaking of guys who are just faster than everybody else on the field. So the funny thing about this, this game was a real rollercoaster for Travian Henderson fantasy managers.

So the game begins. Tarell Jennings has the first four carries of the game. And I'm like, great. Craig's spiraling. It's so over. It's never been more over. Literally, I was like this. Rabel hates this guy.

You started him, right? I did start him. Okay, start him in two leagues. And then he starts to get mixed in. And he's honestly having like a pretty mediocre game. He's basically just getting stuffed up the middle every single time. And then he has the 59-yard touchdown. I'm like basically running around my apartment.

with glee. Like he finally fucking did something. And maybe this will get Mike Vrable to like trust him or whatever. Then he kind of goes back to really not doing much and then he gets injured. Right. He has this like weird hyper extension knee thing

looked bad. He was holding his knee and I was like, cool. He literally scores, I waited 10 weeks for one touchdown. And now he's out for the fucking season. Do you remember what I texted you when you said, Henderson's hurt?

Yeah. He said like, oh God, no. I said, shut your mouth. Yeah. And then of course, you know, he comes back. And then has the game ceiling 70-yard touchdown in which, you know, he does the whole like, should I score or do I, do I go down? He looked at the bench for a very long time.

Dude, that was crazy. He's just like, what is that? Yeah. Yeah? I thought that was like very awesome and like sweet. You literally, Craig, you could see it on the replay. They showed it from the other angle in his eyes. He's like pointing to the end zone.

And he goes, yeah. Should I go? And he's like, yeah. And then he like, get, right. He's like, okay, cool. Yeah, man. He had 27 fantasy points. We fucking did it.

We did it. It's just in addition to obviously getting the satisfaction of getting the fantasy points, it's so nice to see a player who you're really high on excited about actually doing the things you're really excited about on the field. Because so much faster that he actually has time to ask permission to score a touchdown. Well, I mean, like legitimately a few weeks ago, I can't remember exactly how long ago it was. Bill was talking about how they couldn't think of a good play he had made. And so it's like we were complaining about him not playing.

but at the same time, I don't really blame the Patriots because he hasn't done anything. It was a little more specific than that. We went on Bill's show. Bill said, I can't think of a play he's made. I'm going to cut him in fantasy.

And I said, Bill, if you cut him, I'm going to pick him up and I'm going to play him against you. Bill cut him two days later. I added him. I played him against Bill today in fantasy.

I'm going to beat him by the exact margin. Are you serious? You played Bill today too? I played Henderson against Bill today, and I'm going to win by the margin that Anderson's square. Hyvins is not going to have a job in a week. No, but Bill,

I think ultimately Bill is happy. Anyway, I also... Yeah, he'll take that. He'll probably didn't notice. Here's what I'll say. I don't want to pour cold water on this. Whoa. It sounds like you're gonna.

I think the second touchdown was impressive. I thought the first touchdown was he ran straight. There was a massive hole and he's fast. And I think outside of those two plays, I honestly don't think he looks that good. And he just gets stuffed. And I don't think his vision... He kind of doesn't do a whole lot.

other, like those two plays are obviously great, but like it was kind of like they were massive lanes and he's very fast. Uh, with love, with love. Today. He doesn't jump off the screen to me outside of those two plays. Give me five seconds, and I'm going to give you five seconds to like reconsider.

Today was Tampa Bay versus the Tampa Run day. I understand. We have a great interior defensive line. He's been bad all year. Jets, Bengals, Giants, Bills are their next five games. Jets again. Fantasy Championships is the Jets again.

I mean, look, no one wants it more than me. I would say, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, like, picture. I would say there's some special running backs in the league, and they make things look easy. But for, like, a lot of guys, it is the same thing, Craig, where it's like he got a little window and he was really fast and he made the most of it. You know what I mean? Like, there's probably a lot.

There's a lot of place where Devon A. That's like the case. You got to be pretty fucking fast. Derek Henry made a fucking career out of it. Like, right. like fucking huge and fast make a hole for him there's definitely some guys

that can like create on their own and those are the special guys that get paid a lot of money like the touchdowns Jamir Gibbs was scoring today not the same as what Trayvon is Greg do you um do you know how many like strikeouts

so Tani had this year? No exactly not the point okay I'm very happy we're back although I realize bad example because I realize he has pitches too

so maybe that was confusing but I met as a hitter Oh, I thought that's what you were saying. Oh, no. Yeah, no, I did too. You make strikeouts fucking Cal Raleigh had at the plate. D.K., do you many strikeouts Cal Raleigh had this year? I don't.

How many home runs did he have? A fuckload, 65, I think, including playoffs. It's got to my point. Yeah. How many one-yard runs the Devon A. It doesn't matter. Right. I'll tell you how many one-yard runs, Derek Henry adds.

I want to see him sock some fucking dingers. Dingers! Okay. Sox some dinkers. Okay, so Henderson, we're back. I got to tell you guys, this is, All right. I'm a little upset.

Okay. If it's just gearing up here. It is so, so over for the New York Giants and Brian Daible and Jackson Dart. Well, no, DART just his health. But it really is so over

for the Giants of Brian Dable. I feel like I have defended Brian Dable more than many Giants fans. I'm done. I'm out. I've seen enough. He's dead. Brian Dable's dead to a lot of the fan base.

And the Giants have continued. The Giants under Dable have actually somehow within a month squandered like all of the goodwill. The Bears, I just, bears beat the Giants 24 to 20, or as Craig would say, the Bears beat the Giants 20 to 24. Yep. The Giants blew a 10 point fourth quarter late to the Bears. Fun fact for you. Fun fact number one, Giants have allowed the most points in the fourth quarter in the NFL this season.

Need this to say. DK, you'll appreciate this. Giants are two and eight for the third straight year. And that's not even what I'm mad about. What I'm mad about is the thing that's been so obvious that we have talked about it for literally five straight weeks happened, which is that Brian Dable got Jackson DART hurt. And it's a little sounds unfair to be like, well,

how can you blame Brian Dable for this football's a violent game? Jackson Dard is the, I believe it's the most designed runs of any quarterback, even though he fucking started playing at week four. We have talked every single week about how reckless they are. Jackson Dark got hurt today, got concoctly left, and it was as horrible without him as you could have imagined. Russell Wilson is the backup quarterback solely for pride and ego for Joe Shea and the GM. Why James Winston is not the backup, I have no idea. I could go on and on.

But the fact that the Giants lost Dart today after losing Scada Bow, after losing neighbors, it was the breaking point, I think, for the majority of Giants fans was today. And to be clear, correct me if I'm wrong, but he, Jackson Dart got hurt on a designed quarterback keeper run, right? Yeah, where he got a first. It was like awesome. It was like a quarterback power. Actually, let me correct you, D.K. Brian Dable said after the game, I don't know what play he got hurt on.

I can't identify that, even though Jackson Dart fumbled and then didn't move. He looked like Mufasa and the Lion King lying there while everyone's scrambling for ball next to him. And then somehow goes back into the game the next series, plays two snaps, comes out. Dable says, I don't know exactly what play he got hurt on. We can't identify it. But he didn't look right. I just, we've been talking about this for years, right? He tried to get Daniel Jones injured for like what felt like two years by constantly

running him on like designed quarterback keepers into heavy like fronts and everything. It's just, could you just chill? Stop it. You have no self-control. It's worse than any other coach I've ever seen. Brian DeBlo is just no self-control. You have to protect this guy. He's hurt.

He's in the freaking tent. Dude. Every game. He's, what are we doing here? Jackson, I will say, and I want to say,

especially because this is like the most predictable thing that could have happened. We've been talking about this. Jackson Darts is going to get hurt. Like, we just know it. I mean, he gets hurt every game. He just plays through it.

He's had a hamstring injury. I mean, I have, I have DART as one of my quarterbacks in one of my main leagues. and somebody tried to trade me for my third string quarterback. I'm like, no, I need him because Dart is definitely not. And I like, obviously he got hurt. Like, this was the most predictable thing.

Why is it? Why can, if we can see it, why can't Daibble see that he's just going to get his quarterback hurt? There's nothing more important to your team than not getting dart hurt. And I feel like I've never really felt this way about a player and a coach, but it is Brian Daibble's fault. And I feel like I've never really felt that way. I know.

But then you look at the grander picture. of like the way Josh Allen played when he was younger, like he wasn't self-preservation, the way Daniel Jones played in that playoff run, the first season table where Daniel Jones was getting fucking rocked. And then the way of table, I mean, the numbers and the eye test, one, Jackson Dart has been in concussion protocol four times this season,

if you include the preseason, three times in the last month. He's been in concussion protocol. There was that time where Dave all tried to go into the tank. Yelded the guys in the blue tent to the point with the NFL had to come down and be like, hey, numb nuts. You're not allowed to do that. Then last week against the Niners,

Jackson Dart is running quarterback keepers down 18 under the two-minute warning and taking shots. And he's like, he's taking the touchdown, that great touchdown on the two-minute warning, Darts go on the sideline, keeling over in pain. And he's being a good soldier

and he's saying nothing's wrong with him, not listed on the injury report, fucking liars. Two weeks before that, against the Eagles. The Giants are down like 25 points in the middle of the fourth quarter. And Jackson Darts getting fucking wrong. Rocked by Jeremiah Trotter's son at the one-yard liner for like a, like getting destroyed.

And it's one of those were, it's funny because Dan Quinn came out and took the heat for Jaden Daniels. He said he got it wrong. Yeah. And guess what? That was a freak injury. That wasn't Dan Quinn's fault. Like, Jaden Daniels, he was going to take him on two plays later. He hurt his elbow bracing himself on a fall.

That was a freak injury. Jackson Dart got hurt. Undesigned runs. He has the most designed runs in the league. He has gotten a hit as much as any quarterback in the NFL this season. He can't protect himself either. He can't protect himself. Which Daibald should recognize.

And it's so frustrating because everyone agreed that this was going to happen because Daibler has no sense of control. And the irony is that it's not even smart because the only thing that was going to save Brian Daibble's fucking job was Jackson Dart looking awesome. And the idea that Brian Daibble couldn't even put two and two together that he needs that he needs Jackson Dart to keep his job or Russell. Wilson's going to come and make him look really stupid. Why is Russell Wilson the backup quarterback?

Why is James Winston inactive? What about Russell Wilson is able to operate the offense the way Jackson Dart does? James can do it. Anyway, it's so frustrating. It's the only thing we had left going. But I'm really disappointed at Dable, and I would just leave it at this. His opening press conference, this whole thing has been smart, tough, dependable. The Giants are the least dependable team in the entire NFL.

There's quite literally no conceivable lead that the people would trust them to protect. Nothing he's done is smart. It's emotional. Dan Campbell is like the rep is he's emotional. Dan Campbell's very measured during games. Brian Daible's not, he's so fucking emotional. There's no rhyme or reason in his decision-making. The first game Brian Daibble coached as Giants coach was against the Titans.

They went for it on fourth. They went for a two-point conversion with under a minute left. They didn't want to go to overtime. They tied a game versus the Titans and they didn't go to overtime. They went for two and they won in regulation. And it was fearless. And all Brian Daibble has done, the last three years is his coach with fucking fear.

And it's pathetic. And I have said for weeks, there's no point in firing Brian Daibald in the middle season. Wait till the end. You know what? I don't care. I kind of like Daibol. Come on.

It's kidding. It's funny because Daibal wanted Dart. And it's the reason why you got, it's like him and Shane, like they went after Dart. It's kind of funny that now the Jets can be like, Thank you so much. See you later. Like, he's great.

Bye. We're going to keep him. Dude, they're two and eight. They've given up the most points in the fourth quarter. It's like his fourth season. What is the excheon? This is easier said from the outside high fit, so feel free to jump down my throat if you're like,

you have no idea. But to me, looking at the Giants, like, I think you guys are so clearly, like, the team I would want to bet on over the next five years, like all the bottom 10 teams in the league.

Like to me, the Giants, whatever, Dayball, get rid of him. Like, Dart has it. I think Dart is so fucking good. I was texting my buddy about this today as a Giants fan. Like, I don't think Dart's getting enough credit for how good of a rookie season he's having. Dart has 17 touchdowns. He has five turnovers. He is amazing.

He's so calm. The running is electric. I think he's having like a fantastic rookie season that no one is talking about at all. You have him. You have Scatibu's good. You have neighbors. You have a lot of good pieces on defense. I think the Giants are actually super well positioned for like this.

Shut up well. next five years. And so, I mean, obviously, it sucks going two and eight every year. But I do think that, like, if I could start fresh, though, if I could start fresh with any team, any bottom 10 team in the league, it's the, it's the Giants by far. I, it's, yeah. So it sucks. No, no, no, I agree.

I think the trajectory is great. And, like, the foundation is good. It's just so depressing, losing dart in the fashion that you lost. And obviously, he's not a lot. He had a concussion. Right, right. Well, he's going to be probably going to miss one year. Scatiboo is like.

made me lost. Well, but what I'm saying is the jump down from Dart to Russell Wilson. No, he can't play. I'm telling you right now. So brutal.

It has to be James. No. Russell Wilson should, honestly, he should be cut. Rush should be out of the league. He should, no,

I don't think he can play next year. Like the Giants is a bit of a game is not playing. Because, because this front office won't, I won't go into this. I'll wait for David to be fired. But the front office doesn't admit mistakes. That's why Graham Ganoe is still the fucking kicker until this week.

even though he's always hurt. It's why it's why fucking Jalen Hyatt is on the team even though it doesn't play. It's what Deontay Banks still rotates in, even though he's like the worst quarterback in the NFL. They're trying to cosplay as like the Steelers where they don't overreact stuff, right? Yeah, but they just, when they make a mistake,

they don't move on. There's a reason Belichick was credited for moving on from mistakes. It's better than fucking holding on to them. And it's the same thing. Russell Wilson was a mistake. Giants have a playoff one more recently than the fucking Steelers do. By a lot, which is funny.

With Daibel. Maybe you should take him. When was your last, 2017? 2016, 2017? That's going to be. Anyway, I could talk about the Giants for low times. So we should move on.

Yeah, he's not dead. He'll be back next week. Or the week after. I suppose this should spend two seconds saying, Caleb played great. Bears were good. Ben Johnson's a legit coach. Caleb Williams had like six or seven throws today,

where I was like, holy fuck, I can't believe he can throw those things, that ball at that angle. God, it was 2016. The last time he was in a playoff game. You're right, though, High Fitz. Although, you know how Bill's been doing his thing about how he loves Ben Johnson?

Yeah. Speeches in the locker room. Bill is right, and I am starting to notice. Like, you have to do this if you're a coach, right? But, like, they barely beat the fucking Giants when Dart got hurt and Russ was in. And they, like, came back and went. He was like, we had it right where we wanted. We had it right where we wanted.

Expect anything different? Like, we did it once again. Dude, that was like, you know that line in Inside Man when Denzel's like, I got him right where I want him right behind me with my pants down around my ankles he literally said like did you ever waver once we had him right where we want down 10 in the fourth i i will say though no the thing that bill fucked me up with look man wins are hard to come by in NFL no i know it's just it's just i haven't seen a lot of those two and eight for the third straight year no i got him wins are precious all right about two things the lock the locker and videos are great and they've

gotten great at art for me but the thing bill fucked me up with is when he pointed out that every time someone who is not a quarterback gets a game ball, the speech is exactly the same. There's three archetypes. There's quarterbacks.

There's good players. And then there's like a random guy who contributed. Like today for the Bears, T.J. Johnson, Gardner, Johnson got one that he just got there. And there's always a random player. And Bill pointed out that every player

just says the same thing with the game ball. And I can't get it on my head, but he's right. I just want to take the teammates. I want to credit my teammates. This is a great group of guys. My coaches for putting me in the right position. It was such a great group of guys.

Just love being with you. Like, let's keep it going. Love y'all. Let's keep it up. Let's keep it rolling. I'm like, they're all the same. Caleb's speech was kind of lukewarm. That was bad.

It was bad. It was bad. It was weird. He was like. You got off the line. I took that one sack in the beginning. Yeah. What are you doing? I mean, I did take a sack.

but no, yeah, it was good. He's like, defense. I mean, we didn't get started great, but we know we finished strong. I'm like, all right. Ben Johnson's just like, how hard attack talking about how easy this win was. Yeah.

My intruder's thought was I was watching, I was like, man, bears would be nine and out with Drake May. One last note about, yeah, for sure. One last note about Jack's a dart, dude, QB1 in fantasy since week six. Dude, who's the QB1? No one's talking about Dart.

No, one's talking about Dart is. People are talking about Dart. I don't think they are. They are. No, but I think Craig's right in that. Dart and Scataboo were like a meme. They were very talked about, but because it was like, who the fuck are these people?

You know what? Dart is what we said Caleb Williams would be in that he's the first Gen Z quarterback. Jackson Dart is very much the first Gen Z quarterback. And that was kind of the lens. He's what I pictured Gen Z people are. Everyone's like, why is he booping Scataboo? It's like me or like I don't know what I would say to that guy. Exactly.

I don't know how to talk to him. I couldn't hold the conversation. Yeah, yeah. I don't even know what we talked about. Dude, the other day, I was at like a frozen yogurt place with a bunch of high schoolers, and I was terrified. I was like, don't, nobody look at me. I felt weird getting a sample.

I don't, I don't, is this weird? I got out of there as quickly as I could. DK, do you have one? No, I just want to shout out Roamedoons. Or as Craig likes to put a whoa, Madoonsay. A couple big time plays, yeah. For bouncing back strong and partially, thanks to his dad for lobbying for him on, social media, which apparently is the new thing.

For a while, it was like you would say stuff in the media or you would get in a fight with the coach. Then for a while I was like, I want to trade. I'm going to unfollow my team on Instagram and everyone would freak out about that. Now you're just getting family members. To start dog it on whoever.

This is just another one where O'Dell Beckham once again, Trailblazer and trailblazer for athletes and fashion, Athens and social. Adel Beckham's dad was throwing people under the bus. Years before their dads could even log into Instagram. So somebody pointed out to O'Donzee after the game that he got the first target of the game.

And he just said, thanks, dad. Because Roma Dunezay's dad, James Dunezay was like lobbying for. Hear me out. Yeah. It worked. Yeah, look, it happened. It worked. Marvin Harrison.

Worked for him. Ironically. His Hall of Fame dad was lobbying for him online. The best throw Caleb Williams. Maybe not probably, maybe not the best. But one of the three or four best throws I've ever seen Caleb Williams throws, a professional. Rome,

dudes they just dropped at the end of it. And I was like, Rome, if you'd caught that, that would have been like the number one on Sports Center. It was so fucking good. Okay.

Now, it's time for America's favorite segment. Fart or shart? Fart. Or shark. Oh, my God. James or Sean. Oh, yeah.

Air one was weird. I don't actually like fart noises and they make me uncomfortable. And I get uncomfortable. No, but they're so funny. The air horn saved it. Yeah. There was a great S&L sketch a couple of weeks ago,

or a week ago on the Miles Teller episode. And the whole sketch is just around like somebody keeps farting when they get surprised. And it played. It was really funny. You know what? Sometimes it just works. Okay, Daniel. Never gets old.

What's up? I'm going to throw kind of a curveball at you here. This is not somebody you'd expect. Okay. But I imagine people are struggling right now with this person. Right. Running back. Bijon Robinson.

Last three weeks, zero touchdowns. He's had four fantasy points, then 13, then nine. I want to per Ryan Heath, good fantasy analyst out there, follow Ryan Heath. I was talking about Tyler Algier versus Bejohn Robinson. D.K., you used to shit on Arthur Smith, my beloved Steelers' offensive coordinator, for not giving Bejohn the ball enough. Well, Tyler Algier today, three carries inside the 10-yard line, Bijon zero. he is now, Tyler Alger is now at five to Robinson's one

over the past four games inside the 10 yard line and Bijon has not scored a touchdown, rushing touchdown since week six. So I come to you, sweet Daniel. Fart or shart from my boy Bijan. And really, fart or shart for you with Arthur Smith? Who's the problem? Maybe is Bejohn the problem or is Arthur Smith the problem? No, Algiers the problem.

He's too good. Oh, Algiers the problem. He's actually good. That's the problem. But is it a problem that they're giving him the carries? Is that the wrong move? Well, he's doing pretty well with him. Okay.

This is turning into, look, I don't think this is a shart because Bijan's just too fucking good. But it is borderline Kenneth Walker-Sharmine territory. Okay. I was going to say, like if- It's a little worrisome, yeah. If Algiers on the team next year, are we not going to be able to put Bijon in the top five in the rankings because of Alger?

Oh man, maybe Because shit like this happens I know It's scary I mean if you look at the last Like you said the last four weeks He's all over the place If this doesn't change

If they really actually I think These are two different coaching staffs That have done the same thing I think it's way more closer With DK I don't think it's too good I don't think it represents anything

About Bijjohn's rushing style Because Bejohn's actually really good At North South He's actually very good getting north south i think teams want to move him laterally actually but um i think it's more indicative of tyler alger's just a really good running back and i mean especially in the way that they use him in terms of like he's just a he's gonna get into the end zone he had the most rushing yards for a rookie in falcon's history you got too that's good analysis well it's like he's

gonna fucking get i think it's exactly how i feel about sharpenate he's i don't think he's that good of a runner but he's gonna get into the end zone and they really trust him around there but i think it's more for the end zone i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure sure, Craig, all those carriers were on like one drive. And I kind of just think, I, it's sometimes here's what's weird about running back quotations. It's five to one over the last month. I know, but here's what's

weird about running back rotations. Sometimes teams swap in on the same drive. It can be a random one. And sometimes they just give the guy. Sometimes they just give Alger the third and the sixth and the ninth drive. Yeah. And sometimes those drives just happen to be the ones that get to the red zone.

And I kind of think, but not necessarily because Alger all also does get the short yardage when the Falcons feel like, like, for lack of a better term, and if you're with kids, you can earmuffs. I think the Falcons put in Alger when they think they're getting pushed around or frankly, I think they, when they're, the Falcons think they're getting big dicked, they're like, you will put in Tyler. And I think that Alger is like if they feel like they're getting shoved around.

Backup guy. Yeah, which is funny. But like, I think short yardage, if they are afraid they can't get it, like they want Alger in. But he's good. But so that is a problem in short-earned. But I will say on the year, on the year, I'm looking at True Media right now. Goal-to-go-R-Rush attempts this year, Tyler Al-Gio 13, Bejohn 4.

Four is on this year? On the season. That's really low. All right, you know what, that's a shark. That's a huge problem. Bichon obviously is averaging way more points because he's fucking awesome. Well, and the problem is for his bottom line. That's a huge problem.

Well, the problem is that the Falcons aren't that good because I think the easy comp to make is Jamir Gibbs and David Montgomery who both work have been totally fine. David Montgomery could score 15 touchdowns in a season. Doesn't matter. Jamir Gibbs is great. I said bang.

Bing. Confused bingo and bang. So a new catch frame. I was trying to do like bang. Oh, I did too. Really? Yeah. Dude, it's great.

Weird. Anyway. Oh, my God. It's like, that's a bang. We should have done it. should have done a watch party. Bang. You could just say bingo.

You could just say bingo. But yeah, it's like the lion scored 40 points in game, so it was fine. We didn't talk about, we didn't really talk about the Colts Falcons game, but to that point, Craig, Michael, so Daniel Jones was really bad in this Colts falcons game.

He had seven sacks, three fumble, like three, a pick, two fumbles. And the Colts won, because Michael Pennix was much worse than Daniel Jones. Yeah, he was bad.

Daniel Jones was really bleeding from the mouth because he got fucking hit so much. Michael Penix looked really, really uncomfortable. I don't want to draw too many conclusions from these European games. But like, it was kind of in line with everything else where when Pennix is pressured, he just doesn't see anything else yet. He's just not that far into his NFL career yet. Like, when there's pressure, he just, he had a couple ick sacks,

like the ones where he just was like, he kind of turtled him one at the end of the game. And it was like, oh, come on, buddy. I hate the turtle. I hate that. He actually got away and then realized he got away and he just went down. We should do Ick of the day

as a category. That's a good one. You want to know what my ick was today? Was in that same game when like Drake London just like fucking threw sauce gardener to the ground and caught the two point comedy. Oh, that was so bad.

And I was like, oh, that's tough. He just left, dude, you know what? It wasn't even threw sauce down. It was so sauce garter the cult. He like juked him and broke his ankles. It was bad. It was so. the cornerback, the Colts just traded two first round picks

for her. And the Falcons put Drake London on him and it's on the left. I think it's like third down. Might even fourth, but it's probably third down, two yards. And they just run this play to Iso, Drake London on Sauce. And it wasn't even that he just immediately kind of put sauce, broke his angles on the ground. It was that when Drake London, the ball's in the air,

Sauce started crawling toward him. And he was like crawling, like army crawling to catch up. The desperation crawl. It's like the half-destroyed Terminator. Yeah. At the end of the movie.

It's like half his face is all messed up. I was like, I actually think pretending to be hurt would have been better there, bud. Like, don't crawl after like, I was like, Drake London discarded him. He discarded him.

It was bad. Come on. Guys. Kenneth Walker has nine rushes in from a goal to goal situations. And Bijon has four. Yeah, that's pretty bad. I'm just saying.

It's tough. It's the Falcons offense is, yeah, but it's not as developed. Okay. Any other intrusive thoughts today or I agree, Craig? The sauce gardener thing was a huge egg. I have a couple intrusive thoughts.

I can be somewhat quick with them. We've touched on this before, but it particularly infuriated me today. Why is Derek Henry so bad when the ball's at the fucking one? Why? Because it's real. Like, with one yard to go, Derek Henry can't get in. They put in Justice Hill. Bang, one carry, one touchdown.

He's in. This year, Derek Henry has five carries from the one yard line. He has negative three yards. Why? Wow. I just think that he's, I think Derek Henry is almost kind of like, you know what we always say about? He's too big. He'll like run into somebody because there's so many people and he's so big.

Like he just will run into somebody, I think. He can't avoid people because there's too many stuffed into one tiny area. He's too big. They can see him. This is like the batted down. Yeah, exactly. It's too big. They can fucking see him coming a mile away.

I looked at the last three years. The last three years, Derek Henry is tied for the most carries in the league when there's one yard to go on the goal. And when they're on the one, he has the most carries in the league. Tied for the most. 17. Of over 17 carries, he has one yard over the last three years. He is averaging 0.1 yard per carry.

What are you talking about? What are you talking about? He's a goal to go on the one. Yeah. Wow. There are plenty of other running backs who are way better. The only guy who is worse than him is Brian Robinson. Another tallish running back.

Yeah, 17 carries. They can see where they're coming. One yard in the last three years. It's the most bizarre feeling in the world when you're watching Derek Henry. He's like throw people down the field and they get to the one and you're like, no way he's getting it. He can't get it. The Derek Henry thing this year has been so depressing. It is weird that I agree, Craig.

I have no confidence. I actually think that they should sub Henry off for the third and one first and goal. Like, he's not going to get it. If we're talking about intrusive thoughts, I'm like, the Bears or the Ravens best running back by far. It's very clear to me. It's Keaton Mitchell. Totally agree. Totally agree.

Keith Mitchell is so much better. Like, this is like an inside joke. You know, we have all our friends. It's like the backup running back is always better than starter. It's just like a thing. No, but Keat Mitchell actually is. I think their third string running back is their best running back. 100% D.K.

I think that every time he gets the ball. Every time he touches the ball, I'm like, give that guy more fucking touches. What are we doing here? I'm not a coach and I can see. Obviously, Derek Henry's Derek Henry. So I get it. But yeah. My intrusive thought today was, D.K.,

do you think Kyler Murray was overjoyed when Cardinals fell down 35 to nothing? Or do you think Kyler Murray was too busy and didn't notice because he was playing in that little Simpsons world they built in Fortnite. That is a, it is a fun question to imagine where he's like, thank God, now no, no everyone's going to be like, it's not my fault. Deep down, did he have that as a competitor? Deep down, how about on the surface?

He's like smiling, laughing. Did he go to the game? I didn't see him. Was he on the sidelines? He's playing Fortnite. No, actually, I don't know if he was there. I couldn't see him. I couldn't see him.

I couldn't see him. He should be the goal. There was a lot of tall guys. They did, throw them in there. I just think that's crazy, dude. 17 carries one yard? 17 carries. You know, it's funny about that

because I was like, how to get one yard. I actually really mean this. I think Ravens Finn's listening to agree. If it's first and goal, or third in goal at the one, and Derek Henry is the ball, I think he's more likely at this point to lose yards than gain them. Well, that's, yeah, I mean, because he does have a few, like,

I forget how many touchdowns he has on those 17 characters. but you can have more touchdowns than yards because like... Right, right. He'll lose three yards on one of those, but then he'll get a touch on the others. He loses them a lot. It's not great. He does. Any other intrusive thoughts?

My one intrusive thought I had today is that the three best running quarterbacks don't run anymore. And it's Lamar, it's Josh, and it's Jalen Hertz. And I kind of was like, I wondered if it's because I have Lamar everywhere in fantasy. I have Jalen Hertz in fantasy. I know he hasn't played tomorrow. But then I was like, man, you know, I no longer when I watch the Ravens and my like, Lamar's going to tear him up on the ground today. Like, that's just not a part of his game.

Like, he's basically just a pocket passer, and if he needs to, he'll scramble. And the numbers bear that out. He's averaging a career low yards per game. Jalen Hertz's career low yards per game rushing. Josh Allen is averaging a career low design. All three of them are averaging career lows and design runs per game.

They're all averaging less than four design runs per game. And I'm sure this is like, you want these guys to last longer. Like, you can't just be running them all around as they approach 30 years old. But it was just something that crossed my mind as like, oh, Lamar, like to me, like Jackson Dart, like there's a new era of rushing quarterbacks. I kind of don't put Lamar, especially I don't put Jalen Hertz. Josh still runs,

especially in the goal line. But I don't know. I feel like they are in phase two of their careers in terms of what they are athletically and as a runner. I think that's accurate. I think there's a hell thing too with Lamar, obviously. I do think also there's a bias in rushing obviously because when you're younger, like you, you know, as Josh and Lamar. I mean, Lamar's 29. I those guys are like 28, 29. You get older. You know, you know, you're. You know, you're. You know, you're you're not as fast. You pick up injuries. You don't want to get hit.

But there's also a weird bias. And this is why I think some fantasy rules maybe changed. That like when Drake May, Drake May had the game where he was, I forget his completion percentage was like 90% or whatever. And they asked him,

how do you feel about that? And he was like, actually, I left a lot of throws out there. I couldn't really process them quick enough so I just ran. And so it's actually, you run less in part because you're understanding

the game better. And so that is also part of it is that a lot of throws where Lamar Jackson, like had some cool 40-yard run. He probably didn't know what the fuck to do and he's made some cool shit happen.

And now he's a touch slower and he knows the game better. And so he actually doesn't need to do that anymore. So in a weird way, fantasy. It's a sign of like getting better. Yeah, you're being punished in fantasy because the guy's a better player, which is why I think quarterback yards should be adjusted a little.

On that note, can you tell me who the number one quarterback and fantasy football was today, Craig? I mean, was it Dart? D.K., do you know? Not Stafford? So, Stafford. Davis Mills. Davis Mills

2992 yards and God Davis Mills ran Man what a world So there's so many stats here This is what keeps me coming back He had 292 yards passing Two touchdowns and a pick

Because he also ran for 20 yards 20 rushing yards and score Davis Mills number one of the day Yeah he had more rushing yards than Lamar today That's one of those sentences Oh wait no I'm wrong He didn't. He didn't remember sometimes about fantasy. I think we're too

logical in August. Sometimes we have to remember that if you don't sound, if some of your predictions don't sound actively stupid, you can never be right about everything. You have to kind of throw stupid shit in just to be right. Yeah. Yeah, you do.

Which is why our show's so active. We're doing great. At the time we're like, Alvin Camer's legs are the same weight now. It's going to be great and we nailed it. Anyway, play of the day. Rico Dattle doing the touchdown celebration of zero pumps because Rico Dattle did the two pumps that got flagged. So this week, Kegan Michael Key from Key and Peele actually video chatted into the Panthers team. Which is awesome.

And then Rico Dattle just did the celebration, but that didn't. So he just kind of looked like White Goodman just getting pumped up where he just kind of like, ball me blazer. And he looked down. So then it just became a lot of slowmos of Rico Dattle just staring at his dick, which somehow was weirder than doing. the pumps? I don't know why. But I actually... Strice and effect. I thought it was stranger. I want him to keep kind of testing the waters to find

the perfect line of the most inappropriate thing you can do without getting flagged. Yeah. Me too. So it's funny because the NFL, if they'd just done nothing, it'd be fine, but now it's just going to have a lot of guys just kind of looking at their dicks of celebration. You're like, find me, bitch. He was like fine, like 14 grand for that.

Guys can find a lot of money. Ridiculous. Well, it's per pump. We have an important thing to get to right now. The play of the weekend. Play the weekend, which is, you know what, Carlos, why don't you just play the clip? The weirdest thing has happened now where I feel like Gus Johnson sounds more like Craig than Craig sounds like Gus Johnson. The fact that this was actually the go-ahead touchdown for Indiana to like Penn State and it actually mattered a lot.

But when he says the stuff now, I'm like, oh, he's making fun of drink. Yeah, maybe he saw the Ben-Yea video now and he's like, he's a meme of a meme of a. himself. Yeah. He played it one more time. Wow. Oh, more Cooper. Unbelievable.

He like cut the unbelievable short because he like ran out of oxygen. He's unbelievable. He used way too much on wow. He held the wow for like way too long. It's breathy, the wow. Oh, my God. Do you think he thinks, I actually, what's great about Gus Johnson is I don't think that he like prepares any.

That is all genuine. and from his heart every time. Yeah. Which is why I love it. The hero. You're from his left. Wow. Wow.

Oh, our Cooper! Oh, God. We got tagged probably about a hundred times on Twitter. Thank you to every single person. Do you think we can get Gus on the show? Dude, Gus should do the Super Bowl. Like, what are we doing?

I do. I do. I know. I know. What are we doing? It's crazy to me that Kirkhurstreet can do. To get Gus and Eric Collins in a room together. Is that too much?

Kirk Herb Street is doing the Thursday of football and the Saturday pregame for college and the college games, but Gus can't do college in the NFL like breaks my heart. Like how the fuck. Imagine. He should go to Amazon when now Michael's AI retires. Yeah. Imagine the sheer energy we could create

if Eric Collins and Gus Johnson were in a room together. Oh, my God. Do you think we can make it happen? It's like the large head on and particle. Oh, we're like a walkoff. It's like we, there's a chance. We all die. We just destroy the universe.

Was that like on Oppenheimer's? Yeah. 50-50. We probably will. We can't say 100%. It was non-zero. Non-zero. That we create a chain reaction of wow screams.

We set the sky on fire. It's like a feedback. We would light the atmosphere. Oh my God. Oh, yeah. That was where it was, right? Wasn't it that it would light the atmosphere on fire? Non-zero chance we'd light the atmosphere on fire.

He's like, sorry, what did you say? It's almost nothing. Chances are almost nothing. Would have preferred a nothing. Would it prefer to zero. Would it prefer to zero chance. Wow. You know what?

One more time. Omar Cooper. Do we have any Collins ones on tap? What's his first name again? Eric. Eric Collins. Because now I need to like see the contrast. Do we have an Eric Collins on tap?

Look at this. Down! Oh, no! He's way funnier, I think, actually. He's crazy. What? I forgot about the guts of a cat. He's way better because the hornets fucking suck.

The fact that he's just... Typical Ashton Genty. Look at him go! You can't bring it down! Is he? Yes, he will! On his first touch! Ew, dude.

Like Lamello hitting some three in the third quarter. Down 10. He's like, down 30. If anyone in the world does Eric Collins, can you please put us in touch? I will do anything. We have to get him on the show.

I wish I had that kind of unbridled joy in life. I know. Where does it? It's a true gift. I know. It really is. Like, he just has it.

He just has a special gift. Oh, God. I'm crying now. That was fun. Worst play of the day. We mentioned Trevor Lawrence's pick six to a fucking defensive tackle to end the game because he could have to get to. the 50 yard line.

I do think the other two worst ones have to be the Cleveland Browns ending the Jets Browns game because they jumped off sides on fourth and four when the Jets, like the Jets were just doing the, there's no chance we're going to run a play. We're going to just see if you're dumb enough. And the Browns got got by Justin Fields's hard count, which I think is humiliating.

Arguably the best play of the day because this was the number one pickball. That's right. That's true. Browns know what they were doing. Smart. Good job. Browns want Mendoza.

Dozing for Mendoza. Dosing for doze? Dosey does? No, that doesn't really make sense. Oh, dose two wins from does. Dose for does. I was saying dozing, like going to sleep. That's way better than what I have.

I thought it meant like bulldozing. The other one, you know what Craigs was best. Mine was third. This works better in print. Nobody reads anymore. Other worst play then probably Darren Payne for Washington just straight up punching Amon Rae St. Brown

and immediately getting ejected. And sometimes like, he's like out and it's like a slap. He actually like sucker punched Amonra. So like into the helmet. That's probably fucking hurt. I know. That's like the last thing I would

do punch a helmet like push them or like rip the helmet don't punch it yeah like Aaron Donald's smart enough to just grab guys by their face mask and yeah yank him by the throat like Aaron Donald do what he was doing yeah punching is stupid stadium pulse of the week I think stadium pulse of the week

was Kenny Albert trying to throw to commercial while Donald Trump just really wanted to keep talking about being a tightout yeah that was good poor Kenny Albert John Villabah obviously like just have like like Trump is at the Washington game today and like doing a whole thing. And obviously there's a larger Fox apparatus that has informed Kenny Albert at some point in the last 36 hours you're going to be having Donald Trump.

And watching Kenny Albert and John Villama try to narrate a touchdown and a two-point conversion and then throw it through it commercial. They gave him like the play by play. They were like, all right, you can do a play by play. And then he just didn't really do it. And so they were trying to like interject a little bit. It was pretty awkward. That was a big stadium.

That was like real stadium pulse for Kenny Alpert there. And they were cutting to it so much. Everybody was so stiff in there. Oh, my God. Everyone was, yeah. Because he was so relaxed. And Kennedy Albert was like real fucking nervous. Oh, my God.

Okay. The Arthur Smith's Sean Hockey Award for the coach of ref that pissed you off. There was a lot of weird ref stuff today and a lot of coach stuff. Coach stuff first. Thing that if it went wrong, it's all we talk about. But it went right, so we'll never say it. Mike Vrable did a thing today that no one could remember actually doing. People have talked about it.

under the two minute warning. It's something that I've always thought about and I've always wanted somebody to do because in my head I'm like, if you can pull this off, it's fucking genius. So the Patriots of the ball under the two minute warning in the first half, playing the Buccaneers,

Buccaneers are no timeouts. So you want to thread the needle of you want to get the touchdown, but you don't want to give the buck's time. And the Patriots are getting the ball in the second half. And so you want to just try to double dip. So Rabel actually did something

and he just kind of had Drake May fucking kneel at the one yard line on first down. He's burned. Fuck it will score. Yeah. And then they didn't get it on second, didn't get it on third. And Vrabel was like, fuck it. We're going for a fourth and one.

Through a fade, which is like... This was like a 97 on degree of difficulty. Through literally like the least, like the most like, oh, we just don't want to turn the ball over because we're going to kick a field goal. But it was fourth down, not a high percentage play. And then Stefan Diggs made the craziest catch and then go to right to Vrable. They score like one second left. and go to variable halftime. He's like, yeah, I'm not thinking about plays.

Just think about players. He's like Ben Johnson. We never wavered. Dude, they showed him on before fourth doubt. He looked like what I imagine someone from uncut gems would look like. He was stressed. He was like, fuck, we have to go for it here. And I'm going to get buried if we don't get this.

I think it was too cute. It was stupid. Especially against the bucks where they have such a good money. It's like an important game. Like, I would understand giving that a shot when you're up big and it's funny. It's a random game. That's too much strategy. Just score a touchdown.

Back when the Manning cast was... You're doing too much. But what Brady said on the Manningcast... I mean, Brady said this a lot, but like... Brady in the context where he's good talking about football, which is not when he's paid to do it. What he's the guest on? Him and Belichick were just obsessed about, like, that thing,

which again, anyone plays mad and it's intuitive of, like, score at the end of the first half and then the second half, which is the theory, but no one's... Like, that's why everyone defers for the second half. But teams aren't good at doing it. And the Patriots are just obsessed with. it. Like, Vrabels and they nailed it. Guess what? Like, they were, they got 14 points

in a combined, like, 60 seconds of game time. And Baker didn't touch the ball for like 70 minutes. Yes. So it was, like, it kind of nailed it. It's like an hour before there's a, there's a line in Major League where I can't even remember it was like a, the outfielder

does like a basket catcher. Well, he's doing something that he's not supposed to be doing. He's like, hell of a catch. Don't ever fucking do it again. And I'm like, I'm wondering if whoever talks to Vrabel after the game. I don't know if the ownership

talks to Brable that way. That feels like some Andy Reid Mahm's shit too. I'm surprised. I feel like I can't believe I haven't seen the Chiefs do that. It's too dangerous. They wouldn't let Mahom to do it.

That was a joke. But so I just forgot to laugh. The other I... So funny, I forgot to laugh. I will spare Rahim Morris by...

Does that come back? I'll spare Rahim Morris my lecture about what he did at the end of the game where he called the timeout and gave the Colts kicker a breath, which was stupid. But I think we have to, the referees and Colts Falcons, I really, maybe you guys have thought of this. Obviously, we talk so much about the players going to Europe.

I really actually have never thought about the referees having jet lag until right now, like watch today. They're old. They're 60 and they're traveling and they have to work a very long and stressful time. And it sounds like a joke. The blood pools. But I'm serious. Yes.

In your legs. Compressions. Sox are important on those flights. They got to be up and moving about the cabin. And I never really thought about this. Blood pools. Blood pools. Got to stand.

Compression socks are, Liz wore, when we went to Africa last year and Liz was like, I'm wearing compression socks. One of the legs was 16 hours. I did this this year on the way to Ireland because I pulled my hamstring 10 days before we went. Did they work?

I mean, I didn't use them and I was fine. Sleeve. I kind of refused to out of kind of just. You're just too tough. You just stand. No way my body would succumb. So did they work for Liz?

I mean, she didn't have any issue, so I guess. So yes, I guess. I don't know. They did not work. Yeah. The referees in this international against Coles Falcons game did something I've never seen, and maybe this has happened before, but I'm not aware of it. they actually messed up who got to pick the coin toss in overtime.

And they had to redo it over the commercial break. That's embarrassing. They had to read because it's like the home team or the fake home team because it's Europe gets to do the opening. And then the other team gets to do the overtime if there's a second one. And they just let the Colts do it twice. And then they were like, wait, you can't do that. And they came back and they had to explain.

And this came immediately after they totally botched the end of the game. Like Mike Pereira was lecturing them on Fox. Like Mike Pereira was shredding them. He's like, they're getting this wrong in three different ways. So they couldn't end regulation for like five minutes because they rest were explaining it. Then they got the coin toss wrong because they were so rattled. And I was like, these guys had a long flight. They had to go to Berlin.

Yeah. So was this the Cleet Blatman? Yes, this is Cleet Blakman. Poor Cleet Blakeman. I saw. I was watching so many games. I didn't really see it specifically. Or maybe I just missed it.

But there was a explanation by Cleet Blakeman as to why the game ended. And High Fitz and I were talking about this before the show where AI is so good, it's hard to spot the difference nowadays. I was like, is this real? This looks like one of those bad lip reading things. He was talking gibberish. Like I couldn't understand what he was saying. And then Mike Pereira comes on. He's like, I don't really know what he was saying there.

It was like actually really confusing. I was like, I don't know what he said. I felt bad for the refs, which is how bad they were. I just felt bad for them. That's tough. It was brutal. Lucille Bluth, I don't understand the stat line. I won't respond to it.

I mean, the Jets had 14 points at one point with four net yards. That's fucking Jets. Was that just because they get sacks so much? Or what was the deal? They got a kick return touchdown and then a punt return touchdown. What's the record for like the ratio of overall points versus passing yards? 27 points and 54 passing yards is pretty impressive. Is that what they finish with?

That is probably going to be really high. Two to one is probably the odd. That's, wow. That is probably really That you might have to go back like a hundred years To do better than that Go find it go find the team let's stop That's some that's some cub buck shit

Yeah that's some cub buck Cubbuck was all over that Jugger Jug herp is all over that That's some cubby jug shit Sounds like a cop show from the 60s Old Hollywood ESB research also a great stat of this game

Since 1950, So lack worded it this way. The teams were 225 and O when holding opponents to 175 or fewer yards and committing no turnovers. And then the Browns lost today. So it's now 225 and 1. It's a great job. Under 175 yards and no turnovers and they lost. Hell of a job.

Cool. And then real quick. They know how to tank. I'm actually impressed. I'm not even mad. Real quick. I just wanted to do two Washington tight ends who outscored Kyle Pitts and one lie. Here are just three tight ends in Washington.

Zach Ertz, Ben Sinett, and John Bates. Bates. Did not? Right. Yeah, Senate scored. Sinit scored. I think Hertz might have scored. All right.

Not my finest. Too obvious. Carl Pits are too good at this these days. Don't come after Pitts this year. All right. He should have had two touchdowns. It was actually Pennix's fall as a bad throw. Oh, yeah.

Pennix definitely are like short-armine pass. It would have been a TD. Burnbook? I think it should be DJ Moore for the Chicago Bears. Okay. DJ Moore. Make the case. I have to shotgun out of beer because of this fucking guy.

Fucked season from DJ Moore. Yeah. With the, I will give him the grace. He got hurt. That he maybe, maybe allegedly possibly is covering up a, like a testicular torsion or something that happened to him.

Maybe traumatizing. He left the game for a while. So that may have happened to him. And I also would hide that if it happened to me. and he totally gets to do that because of HIPAA. Having said that, we don't know if that's true. So, D.J. Moore, you spent like a fourth or fifth round draft pick on G.J. Moore. He had no points today.

D.K. has a shotgun of beer because of that. So D.J. Moore's season so far. We started from week one. Put that on the gram. Put it on the gram. If you're not a coward, put it on the ground. We'll see. DJ Moore's points to the season. 7.7.10.5 by 7.7.9.

You benched him last week probably for 21 points versus the Bengals. Maybe he did. So you play him this week. If he was on your bench and you've got 21 points, you got to play him this week. He had zero today. Yeah, this one probably is the right call. Yeah, I was going to suggest Cortland Sutton

who's been disappointing, but I think DJ Moore has been worse. DJ Moore is like, do you, like, you probably don't cut him because there's not that many good receivers, but he's probably been a net negative. I'm going to keep Sutton, no, like on deck. Like, I'm going to keep him warm.

Burn books from week one on. Jalen Wattle, Mark, which pre-tiree kill injury. Yeah, true. Jalen Waddle, Mark Andrews. Isaiah Petichael's had a couple more drops today, I think. And a touchdown. He had a cool touchdown. All right.

We'll let him live. Hyvins is dying. You want me to pick it up? All right. Mark Andrews, week two. Isaiah Pacheco, week three, then. Calvin Ridley, Trevion Henderson, Tony Pollard, Justin Fields, Alvin Camara, Bill Merritt, and DJ Moore.

I mean, most of these guys are so just... Travion's the only one that... The Trayvion and Mark Andrews are the only ones didn't age well waddle waddle but again that was pre-tidreig hi fits you're all right bud you drinking so much water every episode hyphitz is dying over there hi fizz finishes the show five pounds heavier than when he started it because he drinks so much goddamn water greg i honestly the water had been at craig all year was when we were in studio los angeles a couple weeks ago and i had two bottles of water he's like why do you have two

and i was like because i'm going to drink him he was like you can't do that question. And I was like, I have drank two bottles of water during our shows for like five years. That's too much. You don't need that much. Well, I drink water, bro. Sorry, I'm hydrated. It's the only thing Tom Brady and I have in trouble.

No, you're just pissing that out. Like, there's a point we get too much water. Well, I'm going to find it. All right. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Ryan. What a day for Carlos. Thank you, awesome. Carlos is the real

winner of the day. Carlos is fucking levitating right now. Dude, he was like, fuck Josh Allen. He didn't have to watch any Zen. He's like, fuck the Zen. Yeah. Fuck the Zen. Fuck Josh Allen. Fuck, Guinness. Fuck Guinness.

Fuck Guinness. Fuck, Chris. He drank zero Guinnesses today. Fuck baseball. Fuck baseball. Ficking. Dumbass. Boring sport.

Stupid baseball's over. Way too many games. He reached Nirvana today. Carlos is crushing it. What a life for Carlos. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, Phil Collins.

I just saw a bunch of memes today. About Phil really? They were like, hey Phil, no big deal. Just we have this movie

just like make some songs with this guy raised by gorillas. Don't go crazy. Just raised by grillas. It's like Phil Collins. Yeah. It's like, what fuck?

Yeah. He's like, how about you'll be in my heart? And they're like, Jesus Christ. This is an animated film, sir. Yeah, Phil Collins,

absolutely cooked. Genesis, great band, his OG band. Mm. Yeah. I almost saw Phil? You almost what?

Well, Jackie's family had tickets and we had not been dating. We've been dating, like, it would have been a little weird if I went, like, because I would have to go to Pittsburgh to see them. And we had just started dating.

So I didn't get to go and they came back. And I was like, how was it? And they were like, Phil looked old. I was like, ah, damn. Okay. Well, that's not very nice.

So I think I missed, I think I missed the boat. He did good, though. Did he do in the air tonight? Of course. Nice. You probably lip syncing. You think he was lip syncing?

I was dumb enough. I didn't think about that. I just Googled Phil Collin. He does look a little old. How old is he? He's 74. Really? Dude, I think my favorite videos on the internet are the Frankie Valley concerts.

If you have not watch those, you have to watch them. Because you're super into elder abuse. Elder abuse What the fuck you're talking about? Every time you tell me about this I kind of forget what it is So it's where they wheel him out there So you can just stand there

Oh please he wants to do this He's making tons of money I'm sure What is this again? What is this again? Frankie Valley of Frankie Valley in the four seasons He's 91 years old

And he's out there at these At these shows He's barely blinking And they're clearly just playing Recordings of his old music And his lips are It's like like backup dancers And shit

It's like an animatronic robot Stopped working but the song kept going that's what it's like it's like it's like you're at Chuckie Cheese and it's like oh the thing's broke but the song's still going

and the kid's like wait they're not singing that's what it's like they're unbelievable it's crazy I don't I guess it's like a what's the Disney ride

where it's like the Pirates is it the Pirates no not Pirates of Caribbean the Splash Mountain where like all the animals and people are singing in the It's a small world

There's Frankie There's Frankie Valley too Yeah which they change the songs in there I believe And they changed some of the characters Well I haven't been there in a while Yeah I'm gonna they kind of modernized it

Made it less you know Culturally insensitive I believe Inside Splash Mountain It's not elder abuse DK You think that he's like under a conservatorship I'm kidding You're the one he's said it. I'm pretty sure we can go back to an old show and you said it.

I'm just using your joke, pal. Oh, really? Oh, then that's pretty funny. No, that's good. Oh, then that, yeah, that's good. Oh, wait, it's elder abuse? That's good. That's cold. That's cold. I think he might be the oldest living performer right now. Find me an older one. How old is Clint? Email us at Ringer Fantasy Football.com.com. If you can find us an old. An older singer. Because Clint, yeah, he's directing movies, but I want an older singer. How old's Clint now? Who's like prominent enough where he like has people buying tickets?

Email us at Ringer Fantasy Football. I beg you at J-Mill.com. Send us trivia questions on this and we'll take your fantasy. God. Clint Clint Eastwood's 95. He just gets older every time I look it up. Crazy. Goodbye, everyone.

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