The Ringer NFL Show - Week 10 Winners, Losers, and Jeff Saturday is 1-0

Episode Date: November 14, 2022

We recap Week 10 by giving out awards for the biggest winners and losers of the weekend. We break down the wild Bills-Vikings game, Justin Jefferson’s legendary catch, Justin Fields’s dominance, Miami’s good vibes, and Kadarius Toney’s upside in Kansas City. Then, we panic about Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Leonard Fournette, and D’Andre Swift, break down Jeff Saturday’s debut as a head coach, and induct our next player into the 2022 Fantasy Burn Book. Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! [e-mail] Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hypertz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Quirlebeck. And Sunday of Week 10 is over. We're giving out awards. We're going over fives. We've got to start with Sunday net football, which just ended. And it feels like an eternity ago, Justin Herbert was like a good quarterback, a complete third and tense.

And tonight it felt impossible. It's a miracle if they can complete anything longer than a third and six. This team is completely embarrassing. Every single week, they somehow get worse and worse. I guess the Michael- Well, they're injured. We can just keep saying that, I guess, until Mike Williams and Keenan Allen come back.

But I don't know, I hope that that changes everything because that's what we're putting all our eggs into that basket. Did you see that the OC, Joe Lombardi even said, we're not a very fast team. He just came out and said it. Like, I was actually kind of surprised about that. You know who was available? Cadarius Tony.

Go get him. Do anything. I feel like the easiest player to get is some random 50. rounder that just runs a four-two. You know what I mean? Like, he's not very good, but he can stretch the field. Just go get a guy like that. Claypole was there.

You know, like, just do anything. Collinsworth tonight was like, Brandon Staley was wondering, why aren't people talking about us? You know, we're five and three. We're a good team. We've been really injured. It's like, yeah, because you're terrible. That's why no one's talking about you.

No one has an ounce of faith in his offense. Justin Herbert had 0.5 fantasy points in the second half. That's tough. Less than 200 yards passing again. Can you tell that Craig made massive investments at the charges in his fantasy team? I spent like $48 on Justin Herbert in my Super Flex league. Oh.

So there you go. First loser the night is Craig. Name. Seriously. Get to the winners. The first winner of the day is it's just everyone who got to watch the Bill's Vikings game. Oh, all timer. If you did not get to watch this game, like I'm sorry.

This was the, it was the most. I don't, I am a hyperbolic person. but tell me if I'm wrong. I think the final, I don't know the time, I guess like inside the final three minutes of this, the fourth quarter to the end, it was like the craziest sequence I could remember in a game in like,

it felt like years. Is that fair? I literally had no idea what was going on. It was the craziest final three minutes since the Bill's Chiefs game in the playoffs last year, I think. Right. The Bills have a personality.

They have a tie-ish. This is just the kind of game they get involved in. So, Hyfitz, run through it real quick, like what happened? start with the Vikings drive that led to went to the one yard line. I feel like that's where it began. Yeah.

So it starts with Kirk Cousins failing basically and getting the Vikings in the situation where they have fourth and 18. And it just feels like the game's over. And it heaves up a prayer, at least prayers are answered sometimes. This felt like a miracle because that seems like a one time thing. And Justin Jefferson goes up. I would say the Justin Jefferson catch on fourth and 18 is easily the best catch, I would say in an NFL game,

at least since DeAndre Hopkins had that hail married from Kyler. But I think the Just Jefferson catch is on the shortlist of the best catch has ever seen in my life. And I'm curious, I am biased because two of these other best catches of our lifetime are the David Tyree catch and the Odell catch. What you guys think,

where does this Justin catch catch? If you haven't seen it, it's unbelievable where you think this catch ranks in your lifetime catch rankings. That's such an impossible question to answer. I think it's definitely like it's the top. seven or something like that. There's been some incredible catches in the NFL.

I think in watching it live and seeing it happen live, it was the most improbable looking catch, I could imagine. You know what I mean? Like it was really, really high up there. And it just stuck to his hand. He landed on like his head and he still caught it. So just the physics of it looked really crazy. Just like watching it live.

When you go through it and watch it, this is not taking anything away from it. but it was like, the defender did a lot to help him catch that. Yeah, there were three hands on the football and only one was Justin Jefferson. It was like an accident. And I'm not taking anything away from him, but, D.K., I had to rewatch this thing 20 times until I understood whose hands was who on the ball. It was an incredible fucking catch. But here's the deal like that I keep coming back to you. Like, there was two other really insane good catches in this game.

There was one other good catch in this game. Diggs just went up and plucked it with one hand. And then Cortland Sutton earlier in the day, or maybe it was later. I can't remember the timeline. He had another one-handed catch where he was like on his knees and he just plucked the ball out of the sky with one hand. Like there's been a lot of really incredible catches. I think that O'Dell catch is still probably going to go down as like the most famous one-hander for whatever reason. It was a touchdown.

Obviously that helps. Was it a game winner too? Did they win the game? No, this is the thing with the O'Dell catch. On one hand, it was like two and a half fingers that really three fingers that he caught it with. However, I'm a Giants fan. I'll admit every Giants fan knows what I'm about to say. They lost that fucking game.

No one remembers that. Who cares? Who cares? No one remembers. And also, that game didn't end up mattering a ton. The fact that Justin Jefferson did this on fourth and 18 against like the Buffalo Bills is pretty incredible. However, the fact that it wasn't in prime time means it'll never get its like true do.

It's like the O'Dell catch and this being flipped. The O'Dell catch, if it was at one o'clock against the Browns, I don't know how famous. would be, Sun it against the Cowboys. The fact is it's one of the five or dead and best catches at least the 21st century. Then they go down. They, I don't know, this is the most insane sequence. They get to the goal line.

The fight, they can't really get it done. And then Kirk Cousins does this like quarterback sneak. He like doesn't plant his feet. He's like falling. He tips forward. It's like not, you guys know I'm talking about like where he's like, his feet, like he's not digging into the ground. He didn't plant and move forward.

He didn't put forward. propel himself in any direction. He just kind of laid there. This is like the dreams I have when I'm trying to play a sport. My dreams and I just can't like move fast enough. Like have you ever had those kind of dreams? It's just so frustrating. You're like,

you can't run quite fast enough. This is what he just stopped. He was a dude, dead fish. Like you ever see the movie Eddie when Wopi Goldberg's the coach of the nix? And she's like, Yvonne, plant your feet. Like that was it.

It was like he was tried. Anyway. So he didn't get in. No. The bills win the game. It's like, oh. And honestly,

D.K. The first thing I thought of was, This was the end of the Seahawks Patriots Super Bowl went after the Malcolm Butler pick because when Malcolm Butler did the pick they didn't get the touchback. They got the ball like the five inch line. Right.

And I'm like, oh, the game's over. And I was like, oh. And then I'm like, oh, well, they have to like. They, yeah, they were so, they were trying so hard to do what the, basically to mess with the snap and do what happened today that they committed a penalty. And then Josh Allen fumbles the exchange

and they get the touchdown. And that was also like a surreal moment. Yeah. Then, I mean, we're like halfway done. Basically, Josh Allen then gets the ball back. They drive down. They throws the ball to Gabe Davis and he doesn't catch it, but the bills go up and snap it before. So that Gabe Davis catch counts.

They force overtime. The Vikings get to the red zone. The bill's defense holds and like actually forces a field goal. So they get the ball back in overtime. Josh Allen gets the ball back, drives all the way to the red zone. And then just forces a ball to Gabe Davis. And so he just has another overtime pick and they lose. I'm starting to get a little worried about Josh.

My thoughts on the bills being like my pick for the Super Bowl this year, I don't feel as good about it now. Josh Allen, when it really matters most, seems to be his most erratic. Yeah, he's been like this for like the past month now. It's like turning into early career or Wyoming version of Josh Allen where it's like, where was that? Like, where did that come from? like that pick that end of the game he tried to muscle it in in like clear like the guy the defender

had the clear advantage and he like threw behind his receiver like it was a terrible pass i think that it's definitely concerning for josh allen because bill's fans are kind of openly like okay josh you you can't just keep saying after every loss that you're going to get better you have to actually get better it's a miracle he played by the way yeah yeah exactly that's the thing like never mind all the subterfuge of like he was like oh he's active and And then all the bills reported, so like, he's not actually out here practicing before the game. Maybe he would have played better if he had. But what's weird is that even when Josh Allen was at his most erratic as a professional,

he was actually really weirdly good in the red zone. He actually was never turning the ball over his red zone. I think I could be wrong on this exactly. But I think he had two interceptions in the red zone in his entire career. And now he's got like five or six in the last three weeks. I think it's noise. I feel like for most good quarterbacks in NFL, like the red zone numbers. all look really solid. Like there was, back in the day, there was like a red zone number with

Marioota, like Marcus Mariotta like had really good red zone numbers. I feel like red zone numbers are a little bit misleading. It's an inherently small sample. Right. And so I think this is just noisy. I just, I do think he's going to be fine. But, you know, there is this sort of worry right now that he's sort of reverting back to the early days of Josh Allen where he was really erratic, make bad decisions. Accuracy was all over the place. So that's disconcerting. But, But I do think the injury is clearly, you know, part of it. I don't know. I thought he looked fine today, to be honest.

If he had made that throw, yeah, honestly, if no one told me he was hurt, I would never would have known. Did you see him with his actual elbow? He went to punch the ball out from a defender who had, I picked him off or something. But the defender was like on the ground, so he would have had to punch all ball. I don't know. And then he, with his arm. And then he looked like he was in an enormous amount of pain.

And he like forgotten that his throwing on him had an injury. Yeah. Be careful, man. He's less careful with this injury than anyone I've ever seen. I don't know. Anyway, the flip side of this, man's playing of the week. I'm going to give it to myself for saying like three days ago that the Minnesota Vikings were complete frauds and we're going to get exposed.

Let's just bet the Vikings to win the Super Bowl now because I don't want to deal with the whole thing where every week in the playoffs, just like the Bengals. We're like, well, there's no way they're going to win this week and they're just going to keep winning. I'm just going to bet the Vikings now. So should I just do the whole, what is, Billy Macls? Madison when he's like, you were right. I was wrong. You're smart.

I'm stupid. I forget the rest of it. You're good looking. I'm not attractive. Hi, Fitz. But are you going to double down on the mansplain and stick to your thought that the Vikings are still frauds? I mean,

I kind of want to because they kind of almost gave this game away like six times. This is the thing. If Justin Jefferson just like doesn't have three people on the other team helping him catch this ball on fourth and 18, and everyone's making fun of Kirk Cousins, right? I think Kirk cousins, you know what I mean? Sometimes it's just a magic season. Aren't they like six or seven and no this year in one score games?

You know what the irony is? The Vikings are like exactly the same as the Giants in that the Vikings have, this is for me to be in. They've rallied to win when trailing with two and a half minutes or less remaining for the fifth time this season. That's pretty incredible. Team of destiny. It's funny how you can use that stat either way,

like whichever argument you want to make. It's like they're in close games. They should have been, they should be four and four right now. But you could also be like, they win every close game. They're gritty. They have confidence. They know who they are.

Like they can pull through late. We can totally go both ways. Well, you, the tale of two seasons, the Vikings are, oh, my, six or seven and no in one score games. And the Raiders are like 0 and six. Yes. Good teams win close games. Yeah. Usually.

Sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes random shit happens and we have to live with an outcome and explain it. I don't know. But that's the thing. How many teams of the NFC would you actually take? take to win the Super Bowl over the Vikings. It's the Eagles. And is that it? Cowboys look. Cowboys had a receiver line up off sides today in overtime. By like a yard.

He wasn't even close. That's it's super hard to do. The receivers are allowed to check with the ref. Right. They actually get to ask the teacher. You know what I mean? It's crazy. It's a reason you never see it happen. Like you ever see a receiver line up and they're like, am I good? They're not talking to coach. They're asking the ref if they're good. Did the ref just go through the motions and it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're fine. I don't know. It's crazy. It's crazy. I almost feel like it doesn't matter where they actually line up. But if as long as they point to the ref, refs, like, you're good. Yeah, I know, right? I can't even remember the last time. Like, false starts. I can't remember that at all. I can't, I'm, I actually don't think I could ever remember any instance where it's off sides on the

offense. Can you remember? Like, you remember? Like, you're remember anything? I can't remember one. But back to your question, I mean, yeah, the Vikings got to be second in the NFC right now. I guess it depends on how much you believe in the Buccaneers or the Seahawks or the 49ers. I pick the Niners. Yeah.

Well, also, wait, the Niners, we skipped over this right at the beginning, but Niners, how much did they give up for Christian McCaffrey? And then Elijah Mitchell just gets off injured reserve and they gave him more carries tonight. And he was way more effective. And McCaffrey's not on the field at the end of the game. Shann. This is the shanahan. Shannhanhan harder than he's ever Shannahan before in his life.

It's crazy. Vintage Shannan. This is whatever you've ever wanted to say about Shannanhan. This is the most Shann. He's keeping him on ice, you know? He wants to make sure he's healthy going into the playoffs. They're about to make a deep run. Second half.

I could not believe that McCaffrey was not on the field for that last goal. Literally they have four downs to punch it in from three yards away. And you just don't have McCaffrey on the field. Elijah Mitchell, who hasn't played in nine weeks? He hasn't played September. All I can think about was D.K. Shout out to Ryan O'Hanlon, who used to work here at The Ringer and wrote this book, Net Gaines. Shout out Ryan O'Hanlon, Net Gaines.

You can buy it at Amazon. And basically, he went all around the world and talked to all these soccer people and very smart about basically, why don't people do good things as coaches? Why don't coaches always do optimal stuff? That's not exactly what I have. That's a bad explanation. Well, I think the idea is basically he said what he was trying to find, like, what's the best way. to find like an edge, you know? Yeah.

And over and over, the best, like the biggest edge that coaches were talking about was like simply playing your best players. Like, it's fucking, like, it sounds insane, but like just play your best players. But we see coaches do the exact opposites like literally every week. Why does you make you look like he had some juice? Oh, fuck's sake. Shadow No Hamlin, because all I could think about watching this was like, they just, how much did they just give up for McCaffrey?

I truly believe some coaches, some coaches, don't, they're not coaching unless they're sitting one of their best players for whatever fucking reason. Like, I'm not, I'm not doing anything here unless I'm sitting this guy. It's a power move. It's like, hey, listen, I'm in charge, all right? I don't care how good you are. I'm the captain.

No, I don't think that. It's not, that's probably like subconsciously part of it, but it's not that different than like in fantasy football when you're thinking about, oh, like, I don't know, this matchup in the wind and it's like, oh, man, like, maybe I should just draft Kyle Pitts instead of Travis Kelsey this year. You know what I mean? You're like, oh, well, maybe we should just take a trap in skills. I bet you Shanahan would give some bullshit about hot hand and Elijah Mitchell was playing well in the second half.

And he wants to split time between him and McCaffrey's. They're always fresh, you know. And then Elijah Mitchell tripped. Didn't McAfrey look good, though? Like, McCaffrey looked great during this game. McCaffrey's basically, I don't think he's ever looked bad. But Mitchell looked really good. I mean, Mitchell doesn't look good.

A yard and a half more per carry than McAvary. Well, speaking of that, I think that Elijah Mitchell being back, Craig, you pointed this out today. This week, every week is weird. However, it's November. It's almost Thanksgiving. And this is kind of the point in the calendar and the fantasy football schedule kind of.

Things just the wins change. And Craig pointed out today, it felt like they were a bunch, like not that the landscape changed, but there were like more than a half dozen players where you're looking around and you're like, this person could make the difference in whether I make the playoffs or not,

this person could make the difference in whether I win my league or not. There were like a lot of people. It felt like that today, right, Craig? Yeah, kind of a lot of unexpected guys. There was like a kind of a new crop of faces that popped up today or maybe in the last two weeks that you kind of now saw, oh, wow, this person's actually going to be an integral part of my fantasy team heading into the playoffs. Because what are we? We're three weeks away from the fantasy playoffs or three more Sundays.

Yeah. Yeah, there's just some guys who I think a lot of people didn't expect that whether it's because they were hurt for half the year or they changed teams or they weren't playing well that I've kind of been coming to life in the last week or two. and are now going to probably be a huge part of your team in the playoffs. Also, I want to be clear, we're four Sundays away because I think most, because there are buys through week 14, so most people I think have gone to, and if you haven't figured this out in your league, I would deal with it, but your playoffs this year should probably be three weeks, 15, 16, 17, because 18 is the final week of season, but 14,

like, there are six teams on buy in week 14. I would not recommend having your playoffs start. That's going to be such a cluster fuck. Oh, my God. Dude, yeah, we're going to get into this. obviously through the month of November, but you really want to make your playoffs before week 14 because my God,

scrambling is not going to be fun. But in terms of the game changes, there's only one place to start, and it's Justin Fields. Speaking of a team, I believe, is on buy in week 14. Justin Fields quarterback.

Oh, no. Yeah, Justin Fields, dude, he has been absolutely electric over the last month or so and did exactly what he's been doing over the last couple of weeks again. And today, rush for 147 yards and two touchdowns. Every time you look up, again, this is the every time you look up,

a stat or whatever, like, factor. Every time you look up, Justin Fields is like running away from the defense for a touchdown. It feels like he was so, so good. He's so explosive on the ground. And by the way, he was actually pretty efficient. I has a passer, too. 12 for 20, 167 yards, two touchdowns and a pick. His pick was pretty bad.

But overall, I thought he had a pretty good day passing the football. He's loving passing to Cole Komet. lately. High fits will get to that. But again, this is going back to the net gains talk that we're having. I don't understand why it took the bears and two different coaches for the bears a year and a half to figure out that this guy

who can run a 4-4 and is 6'3, 235 pounds, maybe we should use him in the run game a little because he's all of a sudden literally the best running quarterback in the NFL right now. I think that this is that idea distilled and it's also the entire decade-long idea of like using college concepts in the NFL, it's distilled into this one player,

like with this one month in that whatever Matt Nagy was doing in Chicago, whatever they were trying to do, Justin Fields in September, the whole tenure of the Bears with Justin Fields was like, well, now that you're here in the NFL, this is what you have to do. Yes. To be an adult. Like that, you were before, you were a boy.

And here you'll be a man. and they're like, actually, let's just do the stuff that works for you. Why don't we just do that? I feel like in the NFL, and this is just getting into like big picture stuff, I feel like in the NFL a lot of times coaches are like, well, he's going to have to learn to play from the puck at some point. Like, so what do we do? I'm like, there's a fucking gray area.

Run him some. So he gets really confident and he like the team rallies around him and you win some games, you know, even though, by the way, they did lose this game, which is probably better for stuff. To the lions. They lost the lions. Yeah, lost the game, by the way. They did not win.

the game. However, if you talk to any Bears fan, I guarantee you, they're like, fuck yeah. Justin's Fields. That's all they care about. Yeah. They traded away their best defenders. The offense looks great. Fields is obviously a player to build around and they're going to get a better pick. Yeah. This is the perfect outcome.

This is like a win-win. Yes. This was the real win-win. But to your point, also, I think you nailed it. Justin Fields has supplanted Josh Allen officially as probably the best Red Zone player. Red Zone, like the Red Zone channel. I guess Mahomes will always have the title, but like the new guy can on

block of just look what Justin Fields just did. He's number one right now. Yes. And he keeps one-upping himself throughout the game. On that note, good old Bobby Mays, friend of ours, noted this. Justin Fields has a 60-60-yard run each of the last two weeks. There had only been like 10 of those in the last 20 years by a quarterback. That's amazing.

I think he's already in my mind more impressive as a runner than Lamar. He's a very different style. that's for sure, isn't he? Because he's so powerful. Lamar is like, has the kind of Tyree Kill where it's like, if you were playing tag, I don't think I could touch him if you gave me like a year. He's twitchy. Yeah, exactly.

Limarra's like Cadarious Tony was playing, which we'll get to. Justin Fields is like, I don't know, Derek Henry's like cousin. Yeah, but he's smoother than Henry. He's just so powerful and lanky. And he is like a gazelle. He flows. It's like he doesn't even make hard. cuts, he just like leans left and right and weaves in and out of people.

He's a decati. He's just freaking. He's a decaddy. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. He's very explosive. His acceleration's insane. He's just the fastest player. Yeah, he looks like the fastest player on the field. And the biggest. Yeah. You know what he's like, I would say he's somewhere in the triangle of Cam Newton, Derek Henry and Lamar in that he's got, he's not quite as big as Cam, but he's much closer to being, like, he's like, he's like, 80% the size of it.

Because Cam Newton truly was like bigger than many of the linebackers trying to tackle. He's like almost that. But speed wise, he's much closer to Lamar than Cam. At least when you know, Cam had so many injuries at some point. I don't know. But right.

You're watching him right now and it's like, it's, I think that the whole Justin Fields experiment kind of, not experiment, but like this last month was encapsulated to me on the Cole commit. They had this long touchdown. Roger Sherman pointed this out.

and it was like second and one. And basically Justin Fields did a play action to the right. And then he rolled out left. And I took a screenshot. And I just sent this to you guys. I felt like my cousin Vinny, you know, when they're like how many bushes are in this photo?

It's like, can you see how many defenders in this picture are looking at Justin Fields? He's rolling to his left. I get one, two, three, four, five, six. I got eight defenders. Yeah. Are looking at Justin Fields.

he's nine yards behind the line of scrimmage and second or one. And he lofts it over all their head, Cole Komet, who scores a 50-yard touchdown. And it's like, that's what happens when everyone's worried about Justin Fields all the time. And again, it kind of makes you feel nuts that they haven't been doing this,

but better late than never. But yeah, this is the guy that you have Justin Fields and he had, Justin Fields, I think would have been a top two or three running back just as a running back this week. Like just his rushing would have made, made him a top two running back. Yeah.

And he also was as a passive. He's the fantasy league winner. It really feels that way. He is. On that note, I don't, I don't want to make it sound like we're just over emphasizing how good he's been. He,

since week seven, since they started running him. Because in week seven, he had 10 design runs. Prior to that, his career high was four in a game, four design runs in a game. And they did,

they ran him 10 times that game after apparently, they were like studying, you know, Lamar Jackson offense and all this other stuff. like they should have fucking done when he was immediately after he was drafted, but whatever. Since week seven, he has averaged 19.2 fantasy points per game on the ground, 19 points a game running. That's crazy.

Throughout the year, Kyler Murray is averaging 19 points per game total. He is the QB8. So Justin Fields is the QB8 over the last four, like equivalent to what the QB8 would be this year, just as a runner this year. He is averaging 33 points per game overall in that stretch. the QB1 by far 31 design rush is in four games 15 scrambles

in addition to that he isn't passing a ton but he's also top 10 and pass a rating in that stretch he's 103 pass rating so he's been pretty efficient not like hasn't been a super

high volume passers certainly but I don't know man it's all coming together for him and the running 20 points a game 19 points a game as a runner like that's insane can I pose a question for you guys yes

if Fields keeps this up this pace Or he doesn't have to keep up this ridiculous pace. But if he finishes the season as kind of a top five fantasy quarterback, next season, when we're making our rankings, how many people are you going to put ahead of him? Right. I think it's just Josh Allen Mahomes.

Is that it? He's probably in the, I mean, I think at this point, Hertz. He's ahead. Yeah, we'll see you have to see how it hurts finishes the season. Hertz is definitely that tier. I think he's ahead of Lamar because if they keep Greg Roman as the office coordinator, like it's very clear.

me that like, speaking of things that you're like, why is it like this? I kind of keep thinking that if Lamar Jackson ever just plays in a spread offense, we're going to have all the same questions of like, why did we do it the other way? And like, I kind of can't keep watching Lamar in this medieval offense that they have in Baltimore. So, yeah, I think that if everything stayed the same, you'd kind of have to put fields no, no lower than fourth. Like, that's the bare floor. He could be first. Quite the turnaround because he looked terrible at the beginning. It's been four weeks and we're like, he's top three next year.

It's unbelievable. Because of the rules of fantasy football are dumb, but the rules are the rules. I kind of love him. I love the rules of fantasy. The rules are stupid. But as long as he's getting 20 yards, there's 20 points for his rushing, as long as every rushing yard is worth like two and a half times a passing yard, that's how it's going to be. Well, you know what's funny about that list is like Mahomes, Josh Allen, Jalen Hertz, toss on Lamar if you want. Burroughs been good this year.

Two has been great. All those players are on very good teams that will make the playoffs. The Bears suck. It's still really funny. 60-yard runs. Look, again, he's not going to see a year runs every week. That points to your point, Hifitz, that fantasy is stupid the way it scored. It is hilarious.

That Fields is going to be the third quarterback off the board next year, and they're going to win three or four games this year. It's really stupid. Anyway. Here's the deal, though, Hyfitz. I play in a couple of leagues that try and mitigate the rushing thing by giving quarterbacks six points per passing touchdown. But that doesn't mitigate the yards.

The point is that, like, Justin Fields is having a 60-yard run is, I mean, think about the difference between a 60-yard rushing touchdown and his 60-yard passing touchdown. Like, it adds up. I mean, I think it's pretty impressive that he can do that, though. Yeah, but it should get rewarded for it. It's not worth any more in a real game. 60 yards passing is like two points. I mean, you could make the argument. It's more backbreaking.

I don't know. Whatever. It's my point was going to be, even in fantasy leagues that, like, favor, quote-unquote, passing quarterbacks. He's still the number one player in fantasy over the last four weeks. I have no doubt about that. Did you guys see last week when Justin Fields was running all over the dolphins and he goes on to the, he runs into the Miami sideline and Mike McDaniel?

He'll stop that. Stop it. He's like, can you stop doing that? Just stop. And then in like the press conference, he was like, I asked him to stop running and he didn't listen to me. He wasn't taking the coaching. Is that funny?

Do we think Mike McDaniel is funny? That's such like millennial humor. I thought it was hilarious. I don't know. He's such a little troll. The way that he delivered it was like, yeah, I asked him to stop running and he wouldn't listen. It's weird. Mike McDaniels is like, he's like acting.

I don't even really get it. Dolphins won the game. He's doing that game and today. He's like legitimately doing like a character. Dolphids are in first place in the games. I think that Mike McDaniel, I think that every year you have a coach, leave a coaching staff. And they're like, oh man, going to be a tough departure. And like half of them, who cares?

I actually think you can see it with the 49ers this year. Like, man, there's a lot of creativity. creativity that Mike McDaniels gone. Brian Boldinger was pointing this out. And I was like, yeah. And I'm like, actually, yeah. I kind of look at the Niners not being able to run on the Chargers today. Like the Chargers giving up 5.7 yards per care.

Like the Chargers allow more on the ground than like six teams allow per grop back. And then you look at the dolphins just doing whatever they want against every team, like Cleveland today. And I'm like, wow. Yeah. Mike Did he could be as awkward as he wants. He's like the first coach ever to a completely abandoned coach speak. He just doesn't do it.

He's the only coach to not like just kind of wax poetic on a bunch of bullshit. He just like says weird jokes and makes fun of things. D.K., do you remember when we were at the combine and Mike McDaniel was like in the crowd near us asking one of the coaches question? We had no idea that that was, he's tiny, dude. I was like, no one that short would ever get respected by. I knew I was going to love Mike McDaniel when I saw a clip. I think it was right when he got hired or something by the Dolphins.

So it was circulating this clip. but he was like, he goes up in a press conference, and he's, I don't even know what his title was with the 49ers. It's like run game coordinator or something like that. And he goes, I really glad I get to talk to you guys today because you get to really take in,

you know, my physical presence up here. It's just like. No, he was doing that because Rich, he had something with Rich Eisen of like he was trying to work in coach speed. It was like a bit. But anyway,

speaking of the Dolphins, though, and league winning players, Craig, you could take a little victory lap on Jeff Wilson because he were, right about that by-low window. Seriously, it closed rapidly.

It just feels like I hope people didn't drop Jeff Wilson. If you hung on to him for those few weeks where the Niners got McCaffrey and Wilson got four carries a game, you're sitting pretty right now. I mean, the guy, he had 17 carries today, 120 yards and a touchdown. He doubled Rahim Mosterts snaps. He's played two games with the Dolphins. In the first game, he really only played half a game. He's got over 200 yards and two touchdowns in two games of the dolphins.

And they can run the ball well, like you just said, high fits. You know, at the start of this season, we're talking about these playoff, these fantasy playoff game changes, guys who you didn't expect to really make an impact. I mean, Jeff Wilson is going to be a guy you probably can't sit for the rest of the season on your fantasy team. So he's been great, and Miami in general has really been awesome. The vibes in Miami, best vibes in the league. Can you believe from where they were four weeks ago with Tua and all the concussion stuff now? Today, Tua's dancing after throwing his touchdown. Rahim Mostert and Jeff Wilson are like best buds. They're two undrafted free agents who met each other in San Francisco.

they like love one another. Moster is like super happy for Jeff Wilson. There was a really cute story about the two of them. Tyreek is like happy as a clam. He's going to like set a record after leaving the homes. And you got weird McDaniel like doing his weird comedy bits. Like the team is just, they're a millennial team to me. They're like the first millennial football team.

Have not lost the game with Tua playing the full game. And also they're in first place in the EFC East. And the games, Tua has finished. He's 7 and O. He leads the league in pass a rating. Leads the league in touchdown interception ratio. I think early. Earlier this year, we kind of had an identity crisis of like, we're like, you should wait on

quarterback and then, you know, wait on quarterback. Don't pay up the price tag. And it was like, and we said if you do, we were like Jalen Hertz is probably the guy, Josh Allen Jalen Hurd like, a Russian quarterback. But we were like, Tray Lance is a guy. He got hurt. We were like, oh my God. Matt Stafford, Derek Carr, all these guys sucked. Brady was awful. We're like, oh my God, his late round quarterback. Dead. To us top three quarterback this week, Justin Fields is number one. It's like those were the guys. I would love to know like in another universe at what Trey Lance are we doing.

The reason we like Trey Lance much is because we're like, oh, this is somewhat what we can picture like what Fields is doing now. Like that's what we pictured as Trey Lance. Like he's going to run a shitload. You know, he's, I don't think he's nearly as explosive as field.

He can't move like fields. Maybe we were just overconfident on that. But the dolphins rushed for 195 yards today. After the first slate of games is over, three out of the top 10 running backs and fantasy were dolphins, including Alec Ingold, who is a fullback, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, out there fullback had more points than Austin Echler today.

And the Austin Eklou is like the only person Herbert through passes in the full PPR. So that's insane. Speaking of insane things, I'm just going to go full fucking tell. I don't care. I'm cursing. I'm sorry. I don't know what I'm going to say. Kedars Tony.

Ear muffs. I, I, you guys go first. No, you go. I fucking hate this guy. I'm sorry. This guy.

He's so good. I fucking hate Kadiris. Did you like the hamstring? The fake hamstring? He scored the, it's exactly. I'm talking about it. He scored the touchdown. And you know what?

The worst part was, so if people, you didn't know, he basically catches the swing pass from Holmes. I have no idea how it was wide open. He was like 30 feet open. I could have scored that. I think it's the most wide open anyone's been scoring touchdown all you. I did see from next-jan stats. He was the most open touchdown score, I believe, since they've been tracking stats. Was he actually?

Okay, that makes me feel better because I thought I was being bitter. But like he really was. All right, that makes me feel better. They forgot about him. So, yeah, they really couldn't believe he was on the field. So he catches his ball and he's so open. He just like does this one hop into the end zone. And my actual thought was, oh, see, he got hurt again.

And then later I realized when I watched it again, I was like, he's making fun of me specifically. Like he's making fun. of me and all the Giants fans who thought that he was hurt and hurt his hamstring. I've never felt this way about a player in any sport. Probably a Nick at some point. So this is from Cynthia Freeland. He had 20 yards of separation. 60 feet.

No, there wasn't a defender within 60 feet of it. A football field is only like 53 yards wide. That's classic. That's the distance from the mound to a home plate. I want to point out it wasn't just this wide open play that he got lucky or whatever, you know. He had another really nice catch later in the game where he skyed up and like he went up over a defender and grabbed it. He was making guys miss after the catch. Yes, not only that play, D.K., which was sick, he had a crossing route that he took like 20 yards made like he's quicks of three Jaguars.

He is so mad. I hate him. I hate him. Six touches for 90 yards. You know what team could really use a guy like Cadarious. Tony right now? I was just watching the Giants today and I was thinking, man, they could really use another talented receiver to help out Daniel Jones. But yeah, Tony, he looks

great, man. That's just... I'm so mad. Thousand yards stare. I said this in my group chat last week and everybody got mad at me and they were like I said Cadarius Tony and George Pickens are top 10 wide receivers in the league. And they were like, okay, name your 10 wide receivers. So I got to

like seven, which included like the Justin Jefferson's Tyree kills, all them. And then the final three, I was like, all right, listen, are there guys more proven that I could fill out the final three with? Yes. Could I add in people like Mike Evans? Sure. However, in terms of like potential ceiling,

George Pickens and more so right now, Cadarius Tony, has the ceiling, the potential to be top two receiver in the league. I really genuinely believe that. Nobody moves like him. Nobody moves like Cadarius Tony. As High Fitz likes to say bad, his gold jacket

like when they're fitting it when they're doing the highlight reel for when he's going into the Hall of Fame man like those three games are going to be amazing Shooter McGavin Happy my jacket is just a little bit longer on my left on my left arm Oh man

He's so good though I like I can't speak I'm so Juju went down with a concussion McCull Hardman is hurt Like there so we are Mark He's going to be a main part yeah I'm excited

He's straight up If the Chiefs fully commit to him for the rest of the season and really start to utilize him, I don't know what's possible. He doesn't have the speed of Tyree Kill. But what's so undoing is, you know how when Tyree Kill catches like a screen

and like every other player in the NFL just like gets tackled and makes one guy miss? And Tyree Kill does this weird thing where he just runs through like three people. Like fast forwards. Yeah. Yeah. The Chiefs just have that back.

Yeah. immediately. Like that part of just give this guy the ball and he just gets the third and 10 screen where no one, everyone else could stack. They just got that back. And I'm like,

that should be on the, I, can we, can we move on? I'm so bad. By the way, he only played like 40% of the plays. I know.

I haven't even committed to him yet. I know, man. I'm so fucking mad. Classic. So I had this as the market correction award for the, for people who have listened

to the rewatchables. Craig, you explain me, because you're better at this. Remember Eila Fisher? Yeah. What? Right?

Remember her? The actress, the Redhead. And then Amy Adams came along. And you were like, oh, well, we don't need Isla Fisher anymore. And then remember Amy Adams? And then Jessica Chastain came along. Right. We don't need Amy Adams anymore.

That's market correction. Market Correction Award for football. Christian Watson. I was excited about Romeo Dobbs. Unfortunately, Romeo Dobbs did get hurt. Even though he outplayed Christian Watson in training camp, was playing in front of him for most of the season. Christian Watson was hurt most of the year.

Christian Watson came in and credit to him because he had two terrible drops in this game, but he stuck with it. And he, like, kept his confidence up somehow. And he ended up with four catches for 107 yards and three touchdowns. Like, he was the star of this game. This felt like his true breakout role,

if you will, Craig, if we're doing the movie thing. Like, he was incredible. He's like, I just kept thinking, and I don't think he's the same player as DK Meck out, but I kept thinking, like, The explosiveness is somewhat similar. Like, he was just running away from dudes.

He was the only player on the Packers who feels like he can genuinely get open on his own. He just looks so explosive to me. And by the way, D.K. McCaff has some pretty frustrating drops as well. So they're not the same player, clearly. But the explosiveness, the speed that take the top off of defense, the big play potential, like some similarities there. I think that for Packers fans listening, beating Mike McCarthy, and then hearing from D.K.

A Seahawks fan that he reminds Krisha Walser, reminds you of D.K.F. It's so easily the best part of this. Just the explosive this part. Did you see that cowboy stat? It was like, Oh, my God.

Yeah. The cowboys were 1905 and O when entering the fourth quarter leading by 14 points or more. Wow. 195? Yeah. That's insane.

It's a lot. Also, how, it's so funny because they can say whatever they want. Jerry Jones hired Mike McCartner. because the Packers beat the Cowboys twice in the playoffs. Like that's more or less the beginning and the end of the conversation. And it's so funny they hired Mike McCarthy and they lose this game. That's like when you, same thing in fantasy.

The only reason why I have Stefan Diggs this year is because he kicked my ass last year. And I was like, I'm not doing that again. I'm drafted him. It's a human thing. I want to shout out one more player from this game before we move on. And shoutouts to the skinny players that Craig hates skinny players for whatever reason. He doesn't like C.D. Lamb because he's too skinny. It's too wiry, if you will.

Yeah. As a skinny guy, I can't back a skinny player on the NFL field. He's like, he's just going to get broken out there. C.D. Lamb looked great out there today. 11 catches 152 yards. Sorry, 150 yards and two touchdowns, 38 points in PPR. Believe it or not, and Hyfitz actually made me double-checked this because he thought I was wrong. This was Cidlylam's first 100-yard game this year. It's tough, but also it's exciting.

Also, I want to shout out, remember last week when they said that the Cowboys said they wouldn't play Tony Pollard, one of the 30 snaps because they thought he lost his juice. Just gobbledy gook. Just terrible. What is that? Zeke didn't play. Phil Barnwell. Shout to Phil Barnwell just did a summary of every Tony Pollard did after his 30th snap.

It was 12 carries for 74 yards, which is 6 yards of carry. They include a 40-yard run, a 25-yard run, and a 12-yard catch. To suggest that an NFL athlete, the peak of human performance cannot handle more than 30 snaps in a game is the most disrespectful bullshit I've ever heard. Dude, it's classic coach speed. This is just, again, the coaches convincing themselves to not play their good players over and over again. This man cannot handle 30 snaps. You're not coaching if you actually play your best players because then they're just doing stuff. Like, what do you, how, like, what are you doing if you're not sitting one of your best

players? That's not coaching. We got to do a little panic index for some of the good running. backs. Yeah. I don't know what scale we're going with here. One from like you will still start this person more or less blindly next week and 10 being like I would cut them for like a new kicker. Clyde Edwards Allaire for the chiefs, which we did say to trade him. Clyde played four snaps today. Like if you're not hurt and you play four snaps, it's like an accident. Like he has 11 touches in his last three games. And like this was like a go get your shine box game for Clyde. But I don't even, you can't trade him. I don't even know.

If you wanted to cut him, I wouldn't even. I'm not saying you should, but if you asked me if you could cut him, I kind of wouldn't care. Nothing is aged better than our advice to trade away Clyde to sell high. People were mad at us for one week after that. And then it, then it all came together for us. So good job, Les. Not so great for Clyde, of course.

This is extremely tough. This is extremely tough. They're basically just admitting that they should not have used to fresh round around them and all the first rounder clout he had is just so isa janea pacheco more explosive runs harder is more north-south i would say probably i don't think isa pacheco's all that great to be honest like he's no explosive but and then jerick mckenon is just way better in the passing game so it's it's literally like just the logical thing for this coaching staff to do what would you say you do here yeah yeah it sucks for sucks for client obviously but yeah i mean i can't even like

can't even get down on the coaching staff to do that you know what would you say you're after this. I like getting down on coaching staffs, but in this case, it's a pretty good play for them. I think Clydes is 7 and a half bordering 8, but if this happened again next week, he'd be like a 9 and a half. So, you certainly can't play him. Just don't

fucking play him. I'm super stubborn, though. I would probably hold him the entire area in case Pichenko gets hurt. That's the thing, though. He's a handcuff. Yeah, he is now. He's a handcuff. That's the problem. All right. Another one, Leonard for that for the box. This is so weird. He,

Rashad White, so this game was in Munich and we talked about if you missed her last show, there's a whole geography thing. Like, oh, the bucks in Seattle traveling. I won't get to do it. But anyway. Flat Earth. Yeah. Not in America.

That was the, yeah, well, yeah, you hear a whole flat earth discussion. Questions about Gina Smith. But in this game, not in America. Rashad White starts the game. Rashad White plays way more. And then at the end of the game, Lenny Fernette hurts his hip. I guess it was a hip pointer injury. But before that, Rashad White was just better than Lenny.

he was more explosive, he played more, it seemed like he'd surpassed him. They reported before the game that Leonard Frenette did not get his passport to like four hours before the left. Rashad White said after the game, he assumes that's why he got so much of the work. Interesting.

So like... I did see, I saw a report, I think Jeremy Fowler had it before the game that they're going to try and get him more worked into the offense. But we've been hearing this for like a month now. And it's the thing, they were going to get him more in,

but is it because Rashad White's better? Is it because Lenny's, Fornett did not have a passport to enter Europe? Or is it both of those things? And this was an excuse to not get Leonard for net the ball because he's been so famously like upset every time he doesn't get the ball and he's like, well, sorry, we didn't know you're going to come. Now they have proof of concept though.

Rashad White just looks better than Letter for net. He's not as bad as Clyde. Do we have any idea about the injury? No, we don't. Okay. But that's the point I want to make, though, is Rashad White looked better than Lenny before he got hurt. That's the key thing, though. So I think that no injury, it's like a five,

but now it's like a six. It's also, again, this could be just like noise, who knows, but they ran the ball really well in this game. Like, they had been one of the worst running teams in the NFL, full stop before this game, and they came in and rushed for

it looks like 160 yards against the Seahawks, who had been pretty good defensively. So, you know, maybe the Bucks got right in this game. Because the Seahawks, again, they they had been one of the top defenses in the NFL, the month prior, and the Buccaneers just ran all over them. So it could be good for the Bucks going forward.

And they're going on by too. This is a good time for the bucks. We'll monitor that. And the lastly here, DeAndre Swift, it's just, I don't know what this guy's deal is. He's six carries for six yards. This is the worst case scenario because you know he's like one of their better players, so you have to play him. He's got to, he's a big name in fantasy, so you got to play him.

But he's hurt. He's playing hurt. Like, they're trying to limit his snaps. He only had 18 snaps in this game. Justin Jackson, who they just signed off the street like a little while ago, had 16 snaps. He's playing almost as many plays as D'Andre Swift. I don't know, man. It's just so tough.

I think we talked about this on the Friday show. It's like a leap of faith if you want to play D'Andre Swift in any given game. We got to get to the man of the hour, the Costanza Award. Jeff Saturday, universally despised. Good coach. Bill Cowher this morning said he was a disgrace to the coaching. profession. Oh, geez.

Best of all, couldn't believe this. He tweeted like literally two weeks ago to the day when he was a get up analyst. Raiders look horrible. Two weeks later, beats the Raiders, good coach. Is this, is this him being a good coach or the Raiders are just a fucking mess? I feel like Josh McDaniels straight up might get fired after the season. Like, how does Josh, you know, if the draft happened. You might not make it the full season.

You know if the draft happened tomorrow of the Raiders would have. the second pick. That's so crazy because they went like pretty hard on this year obviously with the Devante Adams trade. We didn't mention it yet, but it is worth noting very importantly. And I think this you know, look, there's a low bar sometimes for decision making when it comes to coaches.

Good decision to start Matt Ryan. We talked about this earlier in the week. We were like, what are they doing? The whole thing was nuts. It's Jeremy Ursay was like, I want to see Sam Malinger and they played Sam Ellinger. They know. He was literally the worst quarterback in the entire league. It's not an NFL quarterback. Yeah. And Jeff Saturday

He's like, hey, hey, hey, I got an idea. What if we play the guy who's like a little old, but like literally was like won the NFL MVP? Instead of this fucking kid who's never played. Matt Ryan's like one of seven QBs in the league who can throw for more than 200 yards in a game. That's where we are, 200 yards. Well, it's all because he throws it 60 times to not get hit. But that's the thing.

This actually is super important for fantasy. Speaking of like guys with new fantasy roles that are just secretly going to like make a huge difference. Matt Ryan being back is insane. And just Jeff Saturday running the scene. Jonathan Taylor was on the field for every passing down snap. And I feel like he, Jonathan Taylor, number one running back of the week. Like, again,

Jonathan Taylor resurrected. And then Paris Campbell, who we had a whole fiasco on our league, D.K. I won't get into that. But basically, Paris Campbell is like back to being super freaking relevant because of Matt Ryan's playing, Matt Ryan, like when Matt Ryan got benched at that point, the Colts

led the league in completions, which flipping it means they're getting the most PPR points. And Paris Campbell is just four three speed demon who's just getting on, he's like big Rondale Moore basically, but four three speed just getting checkdowns and crossers. And it's like now Matt Ryan's just using this four three Ohio State Speed guy as

as a checkdown guy. And it's like, oh my God, Paris Campbell is now like he's probably sitting on waivers in your league. And it's like, this is a flex option that can literally win you a championship. If Matt Ryan stays, it's kind of a huge deal. When Matt Ryan's a starter, Paris Campbell's got to be averaging like nine

targets a game. It's incredible. This just reminds me of like if the Jets went back to Joe Flacco or something. No, wait, wait, here's the thing, though. Wait, to bring this all home, you know what Jeff Saturday's great coaching vision was? Player good players. There it is. Hell yeah.

Not that hard. To be fair, Frank Frank was forced to not play the good players, but anyway. Also, important update, if you don't know, Jeff Saturday's on Cameo. And I submitted my Cameo request to Jeff Saturday. I did pay the $60. And I hope they got the money already They do that up front He has not responded and I have four days left

Or else I will get refunded and I'm still holding out hope So I wanted to follow up and I wanted to follow up You know it's like $11 to send him another message They wanted to love it's like 10 night I literally like remind him The follow up email pursuant to my last God cameo's thirsty I wanted to send a message that just said like

Great win Jeff to, you know, bump up the request. Yeah, yeah. And where it says send, I couldn't believe this. Instead of send button, like on a text, literally there's just a button that says 1099. Instead of sent. Shameless. So we'll see.

I hope he doesn't ghost me. All right. Jeff Saturday, good coach. Sad trombone award. DK's good at that, man. He is. That was the Cardinals versus the Rams game, which was. Colt McCoy versus, is it John Walford?

And now I'm actually thinking that sounds wrong. Is that right? Is that the right name? Wofford. What's his first name? John. Wofford is the March Madness team. That's always a 14 seed.

Good God. On one hand, good God. That was terrible. On the other hand, I think someone pointed this out on Twitter and I apologize for whoever it was. It didn't look that different from like the Stafford versus Kyler. Like, was there any noticeable, like, difference? Both these quarterbacks grew for over 200 yards. That's sad.

This is the saddest thing I've ever seen in my life. No, it was the same. Once a year I watch Colt McCoy come in and I kind of do the kombucha girl. I'm like, is Cole McCoy not that bad? Oh, my God. It seems like you can see. Here's the difference. Col McCoy actually can see over the offensive line for Arizona.

It does change things. The only difference for the Rams was like Cooper Cup didn't get like his nine force fed targets and then he got hurt late in the game. It was just like... That was like the main difference is like Cooper Cup was sort of invisible, but like Cole McCoy, 26 out of 37,

238 yards of touchdown. He was feeding D-Hop. Rondo Moore had 13 targets, nine catches, 94 yards. I'm into this. James Connor, two touchdowns? Like, am I in on the Cardinals?

I'm cautiously optimistic as we head into the fantasy playoffs. Rondale Moore? Rondale Moore has one less target than DeAndre Hopkins in the last three weeks. Yeah, they're force feeding him. That's great. Yeah.

Oh, by the way, he had a really impressive catch down the field today. I'm trying to... No, that's bad. That's bad. That's bad. That's bad. That's bad shooter. It is. It's like a bad shooter and pick up basketball makes a three and like, oh, cool. I can, and like, yeah, exactly. I cool. I can make threes down. And then you're like, good, keep shooting. And it's like, play Rondell more in the slot. He's like five foot six. Like, play him in the slot. Well, I'm not, I'm not sure it didn't come out of the slot. I don't remember. This was like such an exhilarating thing. Someone said

to me, I couldn't imagine. So Cooper Cup goes down and someone tweets at us that, It was like, I was watching the Rams game. I assume he's Australian because he said I was watching the Rams game with my mate. And he said when Cooper Cup went down. Or English. Maybe? And he says, my friend offered me Mike Evans straight up for Cooper Cup. But he's like, but you have to accept in the next two minutes.

And he set a timer on his phone. And so he didn't have any information. And what happened at Cooper Cup? And I was like, what would you guys have done? What would you guys do? Wait. So did he trade again? Did he know about the injury or did he not?

No, they're watching the game together. Cooper Cup goes down. So they don't know. They don't know the extent of the injury. No, they had no idea. He's on the ground being attended to. And they go to commercial and he's like, when they come back from commercial, you need to accept it or not.

You want Mike Evans or not? I'm like, oh my God. It's like real-time insurance. Dude, I kind of love that. Can we make this like a game show? I feel like there's something here. That's like the most exhilarating trade I've ever heard of. It's so exciting.

I'm not, I'm sorry, Cooper Cup. I hope that you're all right. But, man, the rush. I think that needs to be a thing. I agree. It sounds like it's not super, super serious. He's probably going to miss a little bit of time, but it's not like a broken leg is the early indications, I think. So the craziest thing, someone else replied to this guy on Twitter and said,

I did the same thing. I got CD Lamb from it. What is that with these psychopaths? This is crazy. We are degenerates. Living dangerously. Also, this is like the worst. version of people like me, like being like, you know what's cool?

Making trades during the injury timeout. It's like Russian roulette for trading. It is. Anyway, this is crazy. We need a name for this. We need a whole infrastructure. This is like, oh my God. Imagine just seeing your player get hurt in that feeling like, I just get out.

I'm just going to get out right now. Wow. All right. I just saw what was next and I shook my head. All right. Up next. The many tight ends who outscored Kyle hits and won who did not.

Kyle, you played on Thursday. He thought you could get away with, but you couldn't. All right? You were the tight end 22 on the day? Honestly, it feels not bad for you at this point in the season. Today was his first... Tuesday was his fifth game with two or less catches this season. Cool.

Here are the players. Here are the tight ends. Ready? Will Disley, Tanner Hudson, Chig Aquanko, Brock Wright, Kylin Granson, Lawrence Cager. Jordan Aiken's Noah Gray and Harrison Bryant.

How many of those said the question mark at the end? Lawrence Cager? The worst part of this is that two of these tight ends are the Giants. And Lawrence Cager scored the fucking touchdown for the Giants. I didn't think he's real. Lawrence Cager's real. I witnessed Brock Wright score a touchdown. I'm so sorry.

I witnessed Jordan Aiken scored. My God, three of these. Chigua had one catch and probably outscored Cow Pitts again. I think. Kyle and Granson didn't score, did he? No, he had a pretty good game. I felt like I saw him catch a couple passes. I think it's all of these guys.

Ding, ding, ding. Oh my God. You fucker. Dude, I'm cutting carpets. I don't tell me why I shouldn't. I'm cutting him. I can't do this to myself. Like, if he, like, a month ago, I was like, if you cut,

the only thing worse than gritting and bearing it is if you cut him and it gets good. Just trade him for the, trade him for like the saddest, Ben. player you can imagine. Who are you gonna? No one's taking him. Maybe wait till he has one good game. It has to be a sad bench player. Like someone's gonna cut this guy anyway.

Like you can't cut him. Just trade him for a sad player. How long can you wait? Because the trade deadline is like in a lot of least like I don't know, like 10 days. Who could you get for? Could you get Darius Slaten for Kyle Hicks? That's what I thought. That's literally who I was thinking of Craig.

Trade him for Darius Slate. Could you get Darius Slate? Would somebody do that? By the way, Darius Slate. Yeah, of course. And then you look and you're like, Dairs Slate at 18 points and you're like, how many times?

Slaten's rostered in like 18% of leagues. Could you get Nick Westbrook Aquine for Kyle Pitts? Where is the line? Producer Kai here says, I traded Kyle Pitts for Cream Hunt a couple weeks ago. Cream Hunt, I don't think it's had 40 yards in like years.

I mean, I still like that trade though for you. Even else the saddest player you can get for Kyle Pitts if you're still hanging on, you want to trade him. Just go for the saddest. trade. Melvin Gordon. I think you could get Melvin Gordon for. Oh, hell.

That's where it's at. Ronald Jones? Julio Jones? Could you get Julio Jones? Only D.K. in his dynasty world thinks anyone has Ronald Jones on their team. He's been inactive all year long. He hasn't played in a game. What world

are you living? I was thinking of the saddest player you can get. Could you get Jalen Warren? No. No. He has way more upside. You could get the backup running back for the Steelers? I think you could get Jaylon Warren, yes. By the way, didn't,

Kyle Pitts have like 200 air yards this week? Like, Mario is just terrible. No, they're like, first of all, one of them was like Mariotta overthrew, Kyle Pitts was a half of Cadarious Tony open. He had like 10 yards of open field. And Mario, I just missed

him, but the other ones, a lot of his air yards are Mario just chucked into him in third and 15, but it's like, he gets the target, but he's out of bounds. It's just like, it's hard to watch, man. I mean, speaking to which, we got to do the burn book and I'm like, should we just burn Kyle Pitts again? Just like double tap like a zombie land. We burned him in week four.

We're still talking about him. Making a monthly ritual. We need to go therapy or something. He might set the record for most games started on a fantasy team and on fantasy like across the year who has under-delivered the most. Like disappointments per start, Kyle Pitts might be number one all time. I'm still starting him. He said he had five games with two or fewer catches. Yeah.

So that's the thing. It's like, we'll have to play a game this week of like, who's the worst tight ed you would actually just play over him? Because I'm like, I think the Seahawks have two different tight ends I would play over him. I would just start playing Will Disley over Cow pits if I didn't have like this anchor if I wasn't like so tethered to him.

So who we're burning? We can't burn Cowpitz twice. Do we want to burn Marcus Mariotta? No, no, no, we got to burn someone you're going to play. I have two options. Option one.

We have not burned Russell Wilson yet. I'm in. Say less Where do I sign Surprisingly I can't believe it's taken this long Right I know it was like a mistake

All right Well that was easy Done I was going to suggest Justin Herbert And then I forgot we did him last year Last week So the people we've burned so far Camakers week one

That aged well We've called Mad Darno Mooney Who are back that has not age well. Baker, Mayfield, Kyle Pitts, Alan Robinson,

DJ Moore and Elijah Moore. Age well, AJ Dillam, we burned all of the Steelers two weeks ago. Who are back? Yeah, we went against that. And Russell Wilson,

should we burn someone else and take off Colquette? No, listen, we got to stay true. We got to live with our mistakes. All right. Well,

in that case, that's all we got. Waivers, really important waivers week. So there's a lot of injuries. So check that out tomorrow. And also, we have so many rip-roaring emails that I want to get to. Rip-roaring.

Wow. We have some creative listeners. Some of the emails we get are deranged in the best way. Incredible things are coming on the way of a show. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Kui, for production. Thank you to everyone who emailed us. Ringher Fantasy Football at Gmail.com.

Thank you, Lauren. Thank you, Kat Stevens. Nice. Well, he doesn't go by that anymore, does he? Yusuf Islam is now his name. Correct. Yes. Sorry.

Yeah. You're good. Kat's great. Huge fan. I first got introduced to Cat Stevens in watching Remember the Titans. Oh, yeah. That's that movie that I've never seen. One of the best movie soundtracks of all time.

All time. Elite. Unbelievable. Peace train. Great song. Dude, ain't no mountain high enough montage. Oh, it's great. Credence, Clearwater Revivals on there. Everybody. You're killing me, Petty. You're killing me, Pitts.

That's why I know how many feet are in a mile. Oh, yeah. 5,280 feet. I think I've seen that movie more than any other movie in the world. I've literally never seen it. That's crazy, D.K. It's so good. My senior year of high school, there was a hurricane that came up the coast and

in New York. And we didn't have power for like eight days or something. And the only movie I had downloaded on my iPad was Remember the Titans. And we had to charge it. I don't even know how we were charging. I guess we did it through a car. So it was like we looked forward to it all day. It was the only entertainment we had.

And we just got drunk and we just watched remember the Titans like five nights. That sounds great. And we didn't have any mixers. I was drinking like apple juice and vodka because we were just running out of things. Waters for getting blood off that uniform and you don't get no blood on that uniform. Water makes you weak. What is pain? And it's like I always thought it's fresh bread.

And only like two months ago did someone tell me no. Pain is French bread. Like that's the word for bread in French. And I didn't get that for a very long. It's all right. Just got to watch it again. Check out the rewatchables. They did it.

All right. Goodbye everyone.