The Ringer NFL Show - Week 11 Recap: The Ugly Eagles, Darnit Darnold, J.J. McCantThrow, Spitgate Pt. 2, and Macaulay Culkin’s Pizza Band

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

The guys recap all of the NFL Week 11 action by going through categories such as Winners and Losers, Fart or Shart, Intrusive Thoughts, and so much more. (0:00) Intro (1:43) ‘Sunday Night Football’: Lions-Eagles (19:01) Winners and Losers (42:35) Who’s Cooking? (53:01) It’s So Over. We’re So Back. (01:10:50) Fart or Shart (01:19:36) Intrusive Thoughts (01:28:11) Ick of the Week (01:31:25) Play of the Day (01:40:10) The WORST Play of the Day (01:46:00) Stadium Pulse of the Week (01:49:51) The Lucille Bluth Award (01:51:26) Two TEs and a Lie (01:53:18) Fantasy Burn Book Check out our 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here!  Email us! [e-mail] This episode is sponsored by Chime. Bank Smarter, Progress Farther The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyphen. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Kirk, Worldbeck, and we are going over all the games from Sunday of week 11 of the NFL season. Yeah. Gonna go through, honestly, pretty horrific day for the Seahawks.

Horrific in a less memorable way for the Giants. Pretty good day for you, the Steelers, Craig. A bunch of great games. We learned a lot, right, Craig? We learned so much. Today was really educational for us, I would say. Did you dive in? Yeah.

You got to go to go. through everything. Also, we have to get this Sunday football game, but first, we're going to take a quick break. This episode is presented by Chime. Bank Smarter this season. Fantasy football is all about strategy. Well, here's a winning strategy for your money. Trade banking fees for fee-free banking, 1.5% cash back, getting paid when you say, and a higher APY on your savings. That's a lineup that wins. Stop banking the old way. Bank smarter through Chime. CHIME is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services and the secured CHIME visa credit card provided by the Bank

NA or Stride Bank, NA, members, FDIC, optional services and products may have fees or charges. Details at chime.com slash fees info with a qualifying direct deposit earned 1.5% cashback on eligible secured CHIME visa credit card purchases. APY means annual percentage yield. Learn more at chime.com. Starting with Sunday football, which just ended, Eagles won 16 to 9 over the Lions. There was a lot to say about this game, but honestly, I don't know how you feel DK. I think it was completely overshadowed by that last play where they called.

I don't know how this game was close enough that it was a seven-point game at the end. It felt like the Lions were losing by 20 the whole time. It somehow was a seven-point game. And the Eagles are incomplete on third down, and they should punt the ball back of the lion. Should get a chance to tie the game, even if they kind of played terribly and had five turnover rundowns. and then they call this Phantom Pass interference and I feel like that overshadowed everything else that happened in the game.

I don't know how it was being rigged in terms of like who benefits from this other than just the Eagles winning the game. But yeah, that was horrific. The worst call, like maybe one of the worst prime time calls I can remember. Just absolutely obviously not a foul. This is what makes me so mad about

not having replay in certain scenarios and not being able to use the reason. It's like just get the plays right. Just get the calls right. Even that one though, they should have the expectations. The whole point of expedited replay is when there's a flag on the field, when it's obvious, they're supposed to be able to pick it up. I think in that one, I think they were almost scared to do it because it was such a big play.

But that is what expedited replay is supposed to fix. It's things that are obviously at first glance completely wrong. They're supposed to be able to change. I was pretty excited to see Jared Goff go two for his final 22 passes instead of two for his final 18 passes, but... We'll never get to see that now. They were going to, thanks to that horrific call. Yeah. Is there any data on whether expedited replay is used more or less in the final two minutes?

Because you might be right. If it's maybe they don't want to make the rest look bad by overturning a important call and with a minute left in the game. Why do we care about making the refs look? No, it's not about the refs. They look horrible. No, it's not about the refs looking bad. It's about the problem is when you have the ability.

to do instant replay and the central command center has the ability to overturn a call, sometimes you're like, oh, this is Batman swooping down and fixing it. But sometimes people in Gotham fucking hate Batman. And so, like, the idea that, well, you can be selective about, well, which calls do they change and when? And the idea, like, the fact that they have that power to kind of swoop in and change it, sometimes people get really cynical about it. So even though they, they always comes back to that, like, the Rams Saints call.

where they had the passenger interference that was crazy, they didn't call. And they should have been able to just change the call, even though everyone can see it, but the rest just missed it. But when you have this ability to just... Some things are revealable only when we notice them with enough cameras in prime time,

and we happen to be paying attention, and we notice it in 20 seconds before these stuff and explain. I don't understand what you're saying. The logic doesn't track for me either. I don't know what you're saying. Are you saying New York missed it? Like, the expedited replay, they missed it, or not? I don't know.

I'm saying that like, I think that the one concern they may have is that if you just start changing shit, people are like, what's the criteria? And the truth is, they don't necessarily have one. They're doing their best because during the one o'clock windows, it's hard to keep track of every play and every game at the same time. The primetime ones get more treatment of the expedited replay. But then why didn't they make the call? I don't fucking know. That was insane. I have no idea.

Okay. I was trying to find, I was trying to see if there was any like under the radar, reason, any like deeper reason that we could kind of get into as to why they wouldn't do this call make this call overturned? I honestly wonder if they stopped watching because the game sucks. No, I'm kidding. I just, I don't know. That was the worst

that was one of the worst calls. I agree, DK. I'm like, what is the point of all of this if that's the call they don't get? Right. Like they make like they overturned some dumb first, you know, first quarter call that's like less significant. That was the most important play of the game and they didn't get it. Every single person at home was pissed. Chris

Collinsworth. You know it's bad. Usually the commentators are, if they don't agree with the call. They're wishy-washy. They go, oh, you know, I don't know about that one. Colonsworth was just like, oh, my God, that's the worst call I've seen all year. I know. Aikman would have been like, well, I don't know, that was, that wasn't very good. No, Aikman would have been like, fuck these ways.

No, he used to that. Aikman doesn't care anymore. But yes, I totally agree. I almost said the exact same thing, Craig. I'm like, when Collinsworth is like saying, that is terrible. He's like, come on. He's father, honest, A. Lincoln, Collinsworth never would have said to that.

Owensworth should get one expedited replay button a game and he gets to hit the button. Yeah. Everybody complains about this slippery slope thing where it's like we can't be reviewing everything. I'm like, can't we just get the fucking calls right? Like, why can't we do that? No, I agree with you guys. I don't know why they have expedited replay it. That's like the situation.

It's bizarre. It would have been the only thing that saved us from once again another terrible primetime game. I would like to, can I, before we get into this game a little bit more, can I read you guys the last five weeks of NFL primetime? Here are the last five Sunday night football games. Eagles, Lions, terrible. Steelers' Chargers, horrible. Seahawks commanders, garbage. Packers' Steelers, ugly, nasty game. Niners' Falcons, terrible. Here are the last five Monday night footballs. Eagles Packers last week was just excruciating. Before that, Cowboys Cardinals, terrible game. Before that Chiefs Commander's terrible game. Before that

double-header, Lions bucks sucked. The Lions won big. Seahawks Texans terrible. The Seahawks were up early. It's been five weeks. We've had nothing. We've had nothing. I'm ready for the playoffs. That's where I'm out right now. It's funny you say that because I was thinking about that about the playoffs last year.

And we've come back around to, I mean, the Eagles and the Rams just like last year were like those are the best two teams in the NSC, I guess. I just feel like this, I guess how many teams do you think are better than they were last year that are contenders? Oh, that's a good question. Well, there's like

They're fringed contenders, right? Like the Bears and things like that. The Patriots are not a contender. They're a playoff. Playoff contender. The Bears, I mean Super Bowl. How many teams that can feasibly win the Super Bowl do you think are better than they were last year?

Colts? Sure. But that's the Pacos. The Patriots. Sure. But okay, but that's my point. The Patriots had a fucking. Seahawks.

The Broncos. The Patriots and get the first pick in the draft. Seahawks. I think the Rams better this year. I think the Rams are the only one. But if you look around the NFC, the Eagles, Eagles, the Eagles get so mad. I think the Chiefs are better this year, but they're five and five. The Chiefs probably are, but they're just as much.

Steelers are probably better. The Steelers are better this year. Maybe they're not competitive. But even the bills, I think the bills are worse. The bills touched the Matrix again today. And you kind of remembered, oh, yeah, this is what they were like last year. You're like, oh, yeah, that was cool. But just generally speaking, I do feel like the Eagles are a perfect example where the defense is getting better, but the Eagles are just a worse version of what they were last year.

But so are all these other teams of the NFC, other than the Rams. The Eagles defense has really turned up the heat the last few weeks and look really, really, really good. I have not seen the line so discombobulated in my life under Dan Campbell. This was Jared Kauf's worst game. And it was Dan Campbell. I thought Dan Campbell was a mess. Dan Campbell was all over the place. Like him going for all these fourth downs in the middle of the game, like fourth and longs, not getting any of them in the red zone.

And then at the end, he punts on... That was weird. With five minutes left. I'm like, you've been going for it the whole game and now you punt. You're essentially ending the game. I don't know. It was funny because the lines turned it over and downs five times in the second and third quarter. And I kind of got it because all they were all midfield field goalish range.

But if you saw the warmups before, the field goals were doing the, the, the, the, kicks were doing things I've never seen before. They were take, they looked like slices on a golf course. Doing tricks on it for sure. They were doing tricks on it. But then Jake Bates actually kicked the field goal at the end and it was straight. And I was kind of like, oh, man, all those turnovers and downs are kind of stupid now. Yeah, it's funny.

How many kicks were actually missed tonight? One? Yeah. Like, I'm kind of like, man, if they just made those field goals, we probably would have fun. DK, what do you make of the Eagles? Because the defense, I mean, Macuba, the safety, Cooper de Gene, Mitchell, the secondary seems unbelievable, the defensive line.

Jordan, it just, the play, Jordan Davis batting the most passes of any player this season or tied for it while Jalen Phillips somehow just, of course, now he's healthy for the Eagles and just having, crashing down and just something about Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter just destroying Jared Gough as first-run picks when Cooper DeGene is just like catching interception. And I'm like, all these guys who,

just first-run picks, or second-round picks that the Eagles have landed. And I feel like this is because, this to me felt like the fifth best defense. Like the Eagles have joy. They're probably a little below the Broncos, Texans, Seahawks. But the Eagles probably, to me, probably have a fourth or fifth best defense in the league right now. Yeah, I mean, they have, you know, real dudes at every level, which is obviously helpful. Like the off the defensive line stuff, they can just dominate the game when those guys are all on. But also, I think, and we bet on the Lions for some freaking reason.

I think we completely forgot about the Jerry. Who's the idea was that? Jared Goff outdoors thing? Yeah, that was terrible. Crazy. That was horrific of it. By the way, we'll just get ahead of it now. We absolutely got destroyed.

We went over five. We went over five. Just a disaster. Just a mess. But we forgot about the whole goff on the road outside. Yeah, I can't play. I don't know who thought of that. You know, it was a sign.

We couldn't decide on any games to pick. And now we know why, because today was a mess. But yeah, Gough, this was the worst I've seen Gough. I feel like since maybe his rookie season. And he just looked. I legitimately didn't look like he knew how to throw football. He could not throw a football. He was baby hands.

At one point, he was two of his last 18 passes. And it wasn't like they were all hard passes. He just couldn't hit a guy. Well, he was getting the shit kicked out of him. But to your larger point, D.K., I agree that. The ball was coming off his handle weird. You know what the game looked like for Goffty?

It looked like. Love on his right hand. It looked like when Vic Fangio, when he was with the Bears, it looked like that game that he completely changed the rims offense in like 2018. and sent basically the game that ended up sending Gough packing from McVeigh and the Rams in the first place. It really, like that was, it really to me was the second worst game I've ever seen golf play other than that, which was also like money to football. It was rough.

But I mean, obviously, you got to give credit to the Eagles too. But yeah, I mean, the Gough on the road. The Gough in cold weather on the road thing, we completely forgot about that. And that's the actual real thing. I mean, just look at the numbers in his career. I think Solac tweeted out the stats. It's like he's passing for less than 60% completions in his career. when it's 50 degrees or less on the road,

which is just like, that's not even that high of a bar, like 50 degrees. Come on. Anyway. But yeah, I think the Eagles, again,

on offense were just the most boring team to watch in the world. The tush push thing, there was one point in the early part of the game where they, on third and one, they just decided to run a normal play. And I was like, they just know they're like,

we're on prime time again. We can't fucking keep running this tush push. And we're going to, loses. And also, by the way, someone to point us out, the Lions actually did not vote to ban the push. So I felt like that was just like a little hat tip to the Lions. Hey, thanks. Thanks for that. Have I not been as aggressive defending the Tush push as anyone being like, look, I hate that the Eagles win and I hate the Eagles are cool too. And let's just be honest, everyone's mad that they won the Super Bowl with the stupid play and you're just jealous and you don't know how to stop it. So you're just mad and

tilting. I've been, tonight, I was just like, man, I'm so ready for this to be over. Because it's called the false start when the guy was putting his hand in the neutral zone? Something about... Yeah, please. Please. The Tyler Steen pointing this hand in the neutral zone and we're talking about whose hand is there. I'm like, God, I'm ready. There's a solution.

Just get them off primetime. Right. If they're doing this in the afternoon slate, no one cares. No one notices. Wait to the playoffs. And then it's like they play a good team and then the game matters more and then it's interesting. It's just that we're forced. It's in front of our face like every other week all season. We have to watch this. We have no other choice. You know why? It's like the meme of the guy holding the ladies eyes open,

They're making a push. Look at the touch push. Look at it. It's true. 130 passing yards every game and they win 13 to 10. It's excruciating. The Eagles are like, you know, it's funny. Some people like animal videos, you know, and like some people are into watching like

snakes kill something or whatever. But the difference is the Eagles are a fucking python or bow or constrictor, whatever. Like the eagle, it's not cool to watch a snake just suffocate you. And that is what the Eagles are. They just fucking squeeze the life out of you. And who can just. watch that over and over. I really, I oscillate back and forth

between team A.J. Brown and anti-A.J. Brown. Now I'm back to anti-A.J. Brown. Now I'm against AJ Brown. What is with this guy? I'm upset with it. Three days ago, when he was given his quotes, playing when he was on Twitch, I was like, you know what? I get it. He just wants the offense to do well. Today, he had 10 targets and he's still dogging routes. There was that deep ball, like third and whatever. Third and 15. It was a good throw. I think if he kept

running, he would have caught it. It was a great throw from Jalen Hertz. And he just stopped running. And it's like, it's not like that was his first target of the game. And you could have been like, oh, well, Jesus. I mean, he's been just running winsprints all night, not getting targeted. That was like his eight or ninth target of the game. It's infuriating that you're in primetime on Sunday football. You just met with the owner, whatever, at practice five days ago, you agreed.

Like, you're getting, yeah, you're getting the ball. That was a great throw from Jailant Hart. Yeah. And Gry much should have had like a 40-yard play on that one. I don't, I'm out on this guy and I'm doing something we've never done before. It's like it's so over, we're so back. Every week I change. I'm doing something we've never done before.

Burn book right now. Do you know we have not put AJ Brown in the burn book? No, we have to. No, we have not. I have the list right now. I don't know how this. I don't know how this is possible. Wait, what?

Week one is Jaylon. How is he not in there? Week two is Mark Andrews. Week three is Isaiah Pachecoe. Week four is Calvin Redley. Week five is Tray Van Henderson. Week six is Tony Pollard's. Week 7's Justin Fields.

Week 8's, week eight's Camara. Week 10 is Bill Merritt. Week 10's DJ Moore. We have to put AJ Brown in the Borough. He's like a fantasy terrorist. It's unbelievable. I don't have this yet. Oh my God.

It feels like we have. I agree. Anyway, I, I, no, tonight was really the last draw. Because I'm like, at some point, motherfucker, you're the defending Super Bowl champions. And when they're trying to get you the ball, it's really annoying to see you not trying. It's really annoying.

And Collinsworth kind of mentioned it. He recognized it. It was very weird. It was very weird. Like part of me is like it's either Petulow or A.J. Brown next year that one of the two were not going to have to trade. Like he'll have to get his, like, look, there are points and criticisms A.J. Brown's had. And like, look, he's given a lot of quotes. But when he had the issues with the Eagles a year or two ago, he didn't say anything and people were mad that he wasn't talking.

So now he's a little bit damned if you do, damned if you don't. But I can't believe how little effort there was at times tonight when I mean, it's infuriating, to be honest. Very weird. So I got to say. watching this game felt a lot like watching the show alone where the fat guy just sits in his hut all day does nothing. Let's fat, eat himself away.

Let's himself starve for eight weeks. Unbelievable. Or however long, just tries to out starve everyone else. Okay. Let's get to the... Craig, I think you were talking about this. They don't ever take any risks. Everything they do is just like...

Chuck it up really deep and really far past the receiver or what? He, Jalen Hertz even makes his deep balls seem safe. Yeah. Like even though he passes him way past the defense. Yeah. Dude, D.K.'s right about taking risk. You know what it's like it's the Eagles are like the most conservative. Like in poker, there's a thing like honestly being really, really, really conservative in poker against bad players.

Just folding every hand is great. Like the line of rounders is like if you went two hands an hour, you're going to fucking destroy people. Like that's the Eagles. The Eagles win like fucking two hands an hour. They win six plays. They win six plays a game. Yeah. They're not going.

Yeah, they're not putting the ball at risk. If you put your hands at 10 and 2 on the wheel and you go to speed limit, you'll never get a ticket. It's unbelievable. And that's the Eagles philosophy. Oh my God. But yeah.

And we hate them for it. We hate them. Fucking hate them. What are they nine and two? You know why it's like at least for the Dodgers or the Warriors and these other dynasties do shit? At least it's kind of cool. We don't want to,

we're not going to tell them that. But like it's cool. It's like the Eagles, they're not even cool. Like I'm watching Jemir Gibbs and I'm like, wow, I remember when Seekwon did cool shit. I remember that.

Gibbs was all over the place. Anyway, we can move on here. We can't have them in the Super Bowl. We can't. It's going to happen. It's like you wrap your mind around it. Wrap your head around it. The Eagles are making the Super Bowl again.

I'm not going to worry about something that hasn't happened yet. They're not making it. It's like our main job. That's very wise of you. Yeah. What's the worst Super Bowl scenario? Eagles. Eagles Chiefs, I've been telling you.

I don't know. Eagles Chiefs, although they might not even make the playoffs. We'll get to that. I think Eagles Chiefs, I don't know, three in a row is pretty fun. Or it's not three out of four. Three out of four is pretty fun. It's not. It's not.

It's not fun. It's not at all. That's the worst thing. It's game we've seen twice before. Maybe you're right. It's because Craig has convinced himself Warriors Cavs four years in a row. It's cool. Well, the ratings suggest they were.

Yeah, well. Also, Hyphitz, my job is not to worry that the Eagles are going to make the Super Bowl. I'm just not, I'm not going to worry about it is my point. They probably will. DK text me at 3. He's like, hey, dude. I can't sleep. He's the nighters.

He would care. To make the Super Bowl again. Anyway, all right, we're going to get to the rest of the games here. Winners or losers. I want to just start with just the NFL sent out this email today. So they have this stat with one game remaining on Sunday. So with Monday football still to go. Five teams today recorded the game winning score on the final play.

Carolina, Chicago, Denver, Houston, and Miami tied for the most games ever in a day in NFL's tree. And then also, uh, Havens, Bills, Panthers, Broncos, bears, Packers, dolphins, all ended up coming back in the fourth quarter and winning, which is also just, it's a crazy day. It was a crazy day, very suspenseful, a lot of close games. Totally. Low scoring suspense. With that said, Craig, who is your biggest loser from the day? Unfortunately, I do think this is a day of losers more than winners.

And I would say my loser broadly is all of the quarterbacks except Josh Allen, who, I mean, everybody got destroyed today. An easy way to tell like what kind of a fantasy day it is and like what the games were like is just go look at your matchups in your league. And if it's red or green, the projections. Like today it's mostly red. And man, all the good quarterbacks. I mean, the fantasy totals today were so low. Drake May, which was Thursday, 15 points. Mahomes today, 13.

Stafford, 13. Bow Nix 12. Caleb 10. Flacco, nine points. Lamar Jackson, four points. Sam Darnold, four points. And Justin Herbert, three points.

These are all like top 10 weekly, like bankable starters and none of them were good. But I think we should all pick kind of specifically which quarterback we think deserves the most heat, I guess at least from a fantasy perspective.

My loser, even though they won the game, I have to give it to Lamar. Like they beat the Browns 23 to 16 today. They were down most of this game. This game was super ugly, super messy. Lamar had four fantasy points today. That is the worst performance of his career in fantasy.

Dead last. Really? Is that good? He's dead last. Right now watching him, he's probably not healthy, but he doesn't have any juice. He doesn't run. He had 10 rushing yards today. Now he has a career low rushing yards per game of 32, which his previous low was 51.

Now he's at 32. He has two design runs per game now, which is by far his career lowest. And you can feel it the most in the red zone. Like when this team gets within the 10, they can't score. And particularly, they can't run the ball. Derek Henry continues to get stuffed. He did get one in. But it's like one out of five works for Derek Henry.

He's usually losing yards. And the threat of Lamar, like the RPO threat, it's not there. They're just not using it. And the numbers bear it out. The Ravens touchdown efficiency in the Red Zone this year is 29th. It's only ahead of the Saints, the Texans, and the Titans. And then the Ravens in the Red Zone. It's like three of the worst offenses in the league and then the Ravens.

It's just so funny to think the teams are having so much success with these big tight-end sets, like the Rams or the Seahawks or teams. I mean, obviously, so ex-stair, but have been shredding all year with passing out of these. I mean, the Rams, again, 20 touchdowns, no picks in the last four weeks, mostly out of three tight-in sets. And the Ravens, who have been trying to do this to some degree for four or five years, Todd Monk and who even at Georgia had Brock Bowers and, like, Darnel, Washington. And like, like, just, Todd Monk's thing has been too tight-in sets to pass for years. And it's kind of weird. The Ravens spacing, it's totally wrong on the red zone.

Derek Henry is the dictator statue toppling over. But I think, I mean, we have to. Lamar had a pick today that Mark Andrews is absolved between the Tush person. Keith Mitchell, bless his heart, had one of the worst drops you'll see. Is he still the best Ravens running back, D.K.? No, not after that.

I got the ick after that. That was like horrific. He volleyball set it way higher than Mark Andrews. You joke all the time Mark Hage's libel setting. Keith Mitchell actually set the ball up and actually would have not looked out of place on a volleyball court what he did. He just set it up,

and then the Browns and stuff got it. That was really rough. But yeah, no, it was weird. There was a point where it really, really, really seems like the Ravens were going to lose to Shador Sanders, which isn't what really would have happened, but that's what we all would have talked about. Yeah. And like, look, I think you can look at it two ways. One, it's like the Ravens, there's something systemically wrong with them.

Or it's like, Lamar hasn't been healthy since he came back. He had the hamstring. Maybe he came back a week earlier than he should have. He had this knee thing. He missed a practice. this week with an issue. And they just played at Minnesota and at Cleveland. Two awesome defenses that give Lamar fits and their next four games are against the Jets,

Bengals, Steelers, and Bengals. I agree. I think it's wise to not overreact because I didn't think Brown's defense is sick and they're going to just rock the next. And they won the game and it was ugly as hell. And they kind of needed everything. But they did what they needed to do. But it's like today was like the third highest sack rate he's ever had in his career.

It's been, it's really bad. Because he's not he's not scrambling. He's not working himself outside the pocket, and he's not bailing to run. He's not. It's not good. Four. But they won the game. They won the game.

You know, it's funny about the four points. I think, D.K., did that outscore Sam Darnold? Just barely. Like, truly just barely. They both had four. Sam Donald had a horrific day, guys. All the cliches, like, if you just search seeing ghosts on Twitter, it's like probably a thousand tweets long of a result there.

It was really, really bad. He had four picks. Essentially, he single-handedly lost the Seahawks this game. Because the Seahawks defense against the Rams, they lost, oh, shoot, what was the final score? They lost by two. Two, which is unbelievable in a game. They were four picks.

They had the ball, and they could have won this game. Yeah, they lost 2119. They missed a 61-yard field goal, I think it was, at the buzzer, essentially. It was like a really long field goal attempt. D.K., does any part of you think Sam Darnel had four picks, and they lost to the best team in the NFC? by two points were okay. Yeah, I was going to say, like, is it cope if I actually come away from that game,

like feeling okay? Like the defense did a really good job in L.A. At kind of not shutting down, but limiting what the Rams could do. Just the fact that they were even in this game late in the game after giving the ball up four times. And look, these were not just arm punts where you're pinning the Rams back. The Rams had touchdown drives of three yards and 25 yards. And they had another one where they really drove down the whole field. So that was like the Rams offense.

Basically, Sam Donald's mistakes cost the Seahawks this game. This is something that I think we talked about last week coming into this. It's like this is always the worry with Sam Darnold. This is always going to be a part of his DNA. He turns the ball over, going back all the way to USC. That was his big thing. He's really physically talented. He's like a big time.

He can make these big time froze. But he short circuits at really bad times. And this is what he did last year for the Vikings. Um, he, Donald, believe it or not, like, I don't know if people realize this. He is actually tied for dead last in the NFL and turnovers this year. He has 14 turnovers, which is tied with Tua for most in the NFL. He had 16 turnovers last year when turnovers were kind of a problem. Um, and he has more turnovers than Gino Smith does this year, which is kind of crazy.

How many those in the last two weeks though? Like half of them? He has 10 turnovers in the last four games. That's, that's too many. He had three turnovers. last week in garbage time, which was like fine because they were kicking the Cardinal's asses. But like, this is exactly what you worry about with Donald where things start to unravel. He starts to press. He did a fucking jump pass interception. And this, like, he's, he's trying

too hard to make a play. And he ends up short-circuiting and making the worst decision possible. All four of his interceptions this game were his fault. I felt like, I mean, I think so anyway. The first one, I mean, the first one was like a back foot, like, pressure in his face, like, just take a sack. And he just decided to try to rip a pass. It was a mistake. It was a bad decision to throw it. The second one was there was a stunt and there was like unblocked pressure right in his face. And he just a classic, like, just take a sack, bad decision to try to throw it all. And then I wrote down Sam Darnold might be, it seems like the loser in this game. And then he threw two more interceptions. And I, it's too bad for him because the Rams are the team.

that just rocked him out of Minnesota. Like that, and it wasn't entirely his fault. Like the Vikings offensive line, the interior offensive line, allowed a lot of pressure to Donald's face, and he didn't handle it well. But here we are again, where it's funny, because now this next Rams game they have in the regular season, suddenly is going to have a lot of outsized importance

because if Donald plays like that, we're going to learn a lot about those teams. We're going to learn a lot of those teams. But in all seriousness, it's weird if Seattle ends up in a spot where it's like, Donald is good enough that he can touch the Matrix sometimes and Donald's just like clearly going to be incredible for stretches. But the team that has his number is in your division.

It just seems bad. And, you know, obviously you wonder if there's a ceiling in his play. I don't know. I don't want to take too much from it because I do think, I don't think it's crazy to say you threw four picks, you lost by two because the Seattle defense was amazing in this game. The Rams had two great touchdown drives. They really didn't move the ball again after the first two Rams drives.

Like the Seattle defense was unbelievable in this game. Yeah, that's the, that's the, big takeaway is if you're trying to look for a silver lining in this game if you're Seahawks fan it's that the Seahawks went toe to toe with like Sam with Matt Stafford this really great offense and they did really well they like held them when they needed to for the most part obviously like I said the turnovers gave them really short fields twice three yard drive and a 25 yard drive like it's hard to win when you're doing that but otherwise the Seahawks did really well pressured Stafford a ton they blitzed him a ton

they matched them this is something we talked about on Friday hype it's like the three the three tight end personnel thing that the Rams have been trying to do the Seahawks fucking

shut that down in this game and the Rams had to go back to like three receiver sets for the most part yeah they did they did they did it go back the Rams came this close to start in the game

with the Rams going 0 for 8 at the goal line they had these goal line stop and then the goal line stands they went for it on fourth down and got it but yeah like you know obviously and if you listen

to Mike McDonald after the game. He seemed like pretty, he didn't seem, you know, sad or like scared or whatever or what had happened to it. It felt like he was pretty confident because he was happy with how the defense played. Obviously, you can't have Sam Darnal turn the ball over four times and expect to win. That's just kind of the nature of this thing. But, you know, it was a good game. I can't believe the Seahawks were in it until the end with those four turnovers.

I feel like the Seahawks can win the Super Bowl, but they need to have the right matchups. Like, if they play Denver in the Super Bowl, I don't think they can win. Like, I do think Darnold, like, I would much more trust them against, like, the Bills or the Colts. It's teams where I feel comfortable that Sam Darnold could be comfortable himself and actually, like, put up a lot of points and it's more of a shootout situation. And then you rely on the defense to slow down somebody like Josh Allen. And they need to go through, like, a team like the Bucks or something. And I think if they have to go through, like, Philly, then they got to go play Denver. I don't trust Sam Donald at all.

This game and the way Donald played is why Jalen Hertz plays the way he plays. Totally. If he would, if he just would have played like Jalen Hertz, I would be probably very happy right now. Super Bowl MVP, Jailen Hertz. Super Bowl MVP, Jaylen,

no, but for real, like you just, it's kind of like the way Bill always talks about the NBA where it's just, what is your playoff rotation? Like maybe you can get through the regular season this way, but who's the five people on the floor in the final four minutes of the game? the Eagles play like it's the playoffs every week.

And other teams don't, but the Eagles are like, if you don't turn over the ball over, you'll win the game. And other teams are like, yeah, but they don't really mean it. Like the Eagles are just like, yeah, no, just don't turn the ball over. The other real quick, the other thing that's kind of nerve-wracking about this game is Gray Zabel, their rookie left guard got hurt. And it's his knee. They don't know exactly how bad it is, but I have a bad feeling about it.

And if he's out for the rest of the year, that's going to be like potentially really bad for the Seahawks. Well, another loser here. So Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs also, I mean, tough game for Kansas City. Great game for the Broncos. I think boot and rally bow. Go ahead and did it again.

Another boot, another rally. He's unbelievable. He really is. Broncos beat the Chiefs 22 to 19. Broncos are 9 and 2. I mean, boot and rally bow gets three fourth quarter field. That's a great name. I know.

Bill Cook there. So three fourth quarter field goals to get the win. Boot and Rally Bow hits Troy Franklin with a minute left to set up the walk-off field goal. There kind of was a false start on Troy Franklin on the catch that Troy Franklin had. And I also don't care because the refs kind of took away a pick six from the Broncos for like no reason. So I think it's a wash. That's not Boat and Rally Boe's fault. No, it's not Boat's fault.

He still hit the throw. Will Lutz, the Broncos kicker, had five field goals in this game. I believe it's 16 of the 22 points of the Broncos, which is. is just funny to me, or more than that, I guess. But, I mean, this was kind of just classic all around. The Broncos defense was just, like, outrageously good.

The Chief's offense, once again, was, like, kind of a hot mess, and I don't think the, I think this one was the first game in a while where I was like, man, Andy Reed and Spagnolo, the coordinator, they're kind of old. Like, they just, like, they kind of just didn't have their fastball today. Andy Reid, like, once again,

they're in shotgun again. I'm like, man, just get under center with What are you doing? But the Bronx, I mean, Bo Nix, I think he's, I actually think Bo Nix played well. I think Sean Payton, Romo was all over this. When Sean Payton can't get the play calls in on time because he has, the play calls are like, God, they're like 40 words. They're like the longest ones left in the NFL.

When he retires, no one else would talk call plays like he does. Combined with, I swear if Peyton's older and just talk slower now, for whatever reason, those play calls aren't getting into like 27 seconds. And you can tell drives Bo Nix nuts. He screams about it once a half. half. And he wants to go with Tempo anyway. It came from freaking Oregon. But they got it done. But the defense playing, the defense destroying Kansas City with Patrick Sartan, who's the defensive player of the year, did not play today. And I mean, the Chiefs kind of had one good, I guess one

or I guess two good drives for Kansas City. But CBS had this graphic that Mahomes got the ball, fastest release of his career, 2.2 seconds on average, which is the fastest of his career. So the Broncos kind of kicked the shit out of him. The Broncos defense is absolutely legit. I saw this from Josh Dubow. First team since 2000 Saints with 49 sacks in their first 11 games. They just rushed the passer like crazy. Obviously, they have a very good secondary as well.

And I saw this. It's funny how the NFL is like this every year. We talk about this all the time. Your record in one score games really does matter so much and can swing the entire season one way or the other. So the Broncos last year were one and six of one score games. Now they're seven and two in one score games. And then on the other hand,

the Chiefs last year were 10 and 0 in one score games and 0 in five in one score games this year. So yeah, I guess the shine is taking off of Pat Mahomes in terms of like his late game heroics, maybe just a little bit this year. Obviously, I still believe in him very strongly late in games. But that sort of invincibility, the air of invincibility that he had last year when they went 10 and 0 in one score games. I mean, that's been the difference in their season, obviously. And so they are basically not going to win the division for the first time in a decade or whatever. So that's kind of crazy.

The Patriot streak's going to stand forever. They won the AFCs 11 times in a row. So now they're just going to have that shit forever. I know the Chiefs are four wins back on the Broncos. I mean, shit, man, the Chargers are 7 and 4. They had a rough day. But the Chiefs might be the first team to miss the playoffs, and I think they'll be the best team in the league.

The Chiefs, here's the thing. So the Chiefs, they're in a very precarious spot for the playoffs because so the division, we're in a weird spot where there's a real changing of the guard here. Some of it's scheduled-based, but the Patriots are really in position to win the AFC East over the Bills. And I don't know if we would pick the Patriots

to beat the Bills as they played in the playoffs. The Broncos are certainly in position to win the AFC West in the, but I don't know if we would pick the Broncos to beat the Chiefs in the playoffs. I know they just beat them today. But then you kind of have that all over. um the afc north like if the steelers and ravens both made the playoffs would you pick the steers

to beat the ravens i don't know it's got but it's like the whole thing where we wanted oh my homes lamar josh something none of these teams are going to win the division and you're actually going to end up with the colts the broncos honestly it's like 2005 all over again it's the steelers are winning the north the cults are winning the south the the the broncos are going to win the west and the uh well i guess the yeah the patriots are winning the afc east it literally does look like the 2006 standings so what's weird is that the chiefs do you know the two thousand 2006 standings by heart. It's crazy.

Like just to 2000. I mean, I don't know. I feel like those teams just won every year. You're just like an encyclopedia. I feel like I'm right. I'll look it up. I mean, I don't, I'm not doubt of you.

I'm just like amazed. I can't even remember last year's standings. That, that I believe. The, I just think it's weird the chiefs right now if the season end, it wouldn't make the playoffs because it's not just that they're out of it. It's that the teams ahead of them of the wild card.

They lost to all these teams. So it's actually kind of a big problem for Kansas City. It's not just like, oh, my homo's a pole at the magic. They're behind the Jags, but the Jacks have the head to head because they beat them on Monday football. The Chiefs are behind the Chargers, so they're going to have to beat them just to split it, and they're behind the bills, and the Chiefs lost to the bills, and they're behind the Texans, and they play the Texans still. So if the Chiefs lose to the,

they have to beat the Texans or else, like, the Chiefs, it's not like, oh, they'll just make it. They really have to go on a run, or they're going to, the Kansas City is going to miss the playoffs. Yeah, they're like, I mean, they have the ninth best record, I guess tied for the eighth best record right now in the AFC. not great. Do we put an asterisk on the Super Bowl this year of Kansas City doesn't make the playoffs? For sure. Well, it depends. It depends who wins.

Craig, do you actually really still believe the Chiefs are the best team in the NFL? Like, do you still feel that in your heart? Well, I'm trying to think of a team that if they played the... Like, which team would I pick? Rams Chiefs. If it was Rams Chiefs right now

on a neutral site in the Super Bowl, I guess I'd probably pick the Rams. But, like, I don't think there's many teams on a neutral site right now. You don't think they're ninth in the AFC. I know. But like, I don't know. If it was just like straight up right now, Patriots versus Chiefs, like neutral site for the Super Bowl,

who are you picking? I don't know. Probably the chiefs. I have a hypothetical. What about the... That's out of respect for what they've done in the last decade, more than what I actually feel like they are this year kind of deal. You know what I mean?

Like you're telling me you would take Daniel Jones over Patrick Mahomes right now in one game. I mean, I would take Daniel Jones over Mahomes for years. Hypothetical for you, Craig, AFC championship game, cheese versus Broncos, who do you think wins? I would pick the Chiefs. D.K. I mean, I guess this is at the end of the day

what Craig is saying. It's like, loser go home. Who are you picking Mahomes or some other Rabin-Jibroni? Who's favorite in a neutral? I guess it wouldn't be neutral side. I guess it would be in Denver.

The Chiefs, though, I think what's weird about their offense, they came out of their buy, and like, Stephen Rees was talking this for a couple years. Andy Reid hasn't been the same play call. I don't think he's a cutting-edge play caller anymore. Like, I think that it's the same way we talked with the Eagles' offensive line has gone from A plus to B plus, I guess.

I mean, Lane Johnson's in a lineup. Like, there are any B plus offensive line? I think the cheese play calling on offensive defense is like B plus, and it used to be A plus. And I think you see it not just third and short where they've always been weird, but again, the Chiefs aren't hurt. That's the thing about Kansas City, right? Josh Simmons came back to, like, like,

Isaiah Pacheco, a seventh round running back, like, that's the only guy that's really part of this team that's not there. You compare that to any other team in the NFL. They're not even close to their best. The fact that they're not getting, able to get Rishi Rice the ball. They're not able to move. They had two weeks to scheme. I mean, Mahomes, again, Buffalo,

two weeks ago, Buffalo, Bumns had the lowest completion percentage of his career. He's still missing open guys. Yeah. His deep ball still. No, nothing looks easy. Nothing looks it. It's funny, though. Two are really skinny guys on their offense.

Chris Jones, after the game. Two, too many. Chris Jones was talking about he thought the Bow Nix knew exactly what they were doing on third and 15. Like, it was basically shot at Spagnolo. And also why Romo, why Tony Romo can't get Spagnolo's name right? He calls him Spagnola, even though Tony Romo has probably done more Chiefs games than anybody else in the last six years. And he's got this guy's name wrong every single time.

But Chris Jones was calling out Spagnolo in this game basically and saying that the same third long blitz is like, I don't know. I think that I kind of think the Chiefs will end up missing the playoffs. It's just one game, but I felt watching that game, I just felt like the Chiefs just aren't that good. To be honest, I just feel like defenses are better than offenses right now. Like I think this season is defined by teams with really, really strong defensive units. Like the Eagles are defensive center, like the Broncos. Those are probably the two best teams. I mean, the Rams are really good defensively.

Seattle's really good defensively. Houston's really good defensively. It's like none of these offenses are able to thwart these defenses in these major matchups. It is funny how even two years ago we're like, how will offenses catch up or whatever? I mean, how will defenses catch up? You know what I mean? And now it's like, yeah, I, I, do feel like we're watching defense has kind of kicked the crap.

I think if you look at the numbers, because Craig, you mentioned that earlier today and I looked at the numbers. And like, in terms of scoring, the 2025 season so far is like fourth most points per game. But like, but what I was going to say was to defend, what you're saying is like the best teams in the NFL, though, dominate with defense.

When the Seahawks play the commanders, like they can put up 40. But it's when the two good teams play one another, these games have been slogs. And that's a testament to all these, when I just listed the Sunday night and Monday night games, those are the NFL schedules the best teams to play in those games. And they're all low-scoring slogs because the defenses are outplaying the offenses right now. So you're kind of saying offense seems Trump.

Offense doesn't win titles. Well, offense wins games, you know what I mean? But they don't win championships. That's defense, I think. Nice. Wow. I think defense wins championships. Write that down.

Speaking to write this down, I just want to mention Broncos tight-in Adam Troutman. I can tell Sean Pay, had some shit going on about, he clearly showed them some weird tweets or whatever about Bo Nix because all the Broncos came out of the locker and being like, we don't care what anyone has to say. And clearly they do

because it was all their, but Adam Trotman said, quote, if you're talking shit about Bo online, you're a coward. Absolute coward. He blanks it out. We don't care what other people think. He's not even on social media. Who cares? And he said, hey, Dragon Slayer 69 with your 7-Eleven slurpee in your mom's basement. I don't give a shit what you have to say.

Is that what he said? Yes, that is actually a quote. Wow. Which, I mean, kind of offensive to Dragon Slayer 69. And to Slurpees. And the people in Mom's basements. How dare you besmirch a slurpy? Dang. Nobody can, if you have a Slurpee, you're an in-sell?

Is that what he's implying? I think that's what he's saying. I probably apologize. There actually is a Dragon Slayer 69. Really? I found him. Is he a Broncos fan? He hasn't tweeted since 2009.

So, shoot. Tough. O-Ded on Slurpees. All right. into something special. It's time for a brand new segment called Who's Cooking This Week Brought to you by our friends at IKEA. Now, IKEA's where to go when you want to cook up your dream kitchen.

But today we're talking about who is absolutely cooking in fantasy football. D.K., I think there's only one person here to lead this off. Josh Allen. He went full Lieutenant Ronald Spears once again. If you don't remember what I'm talking about, that's the character slash real person from Band of Brothers who ran all the way through an occupied German city to get. get to the other side and all the Germans were like, what the hell?

And then he just went back. So he ran through the city and then he just let him go. Josh Allen just does things that no one can ever expect. He had six touchdowns in this game, guys, six touchdowns. The highest single game fantasy score of a quarterback this season, 42.6 points in the win over the Buccaneers, 44 to 32. It started out poorly for him. He threw like one of the more horrendous picks I've ever seen him throw.

It was like a Sam Darnal desk. He did a jump pass to try and avoid the pass rush deep in his own territory but then obviously came back and had an awesome day rushed for three touchdowns through for three touchdowns

plus 300 yards he in this game tied Cam Newton for most rushing touchdowns of all time which is crazy Greg Tomstett a cover one who was like this is the worst game that it was ever played who had six touchdowns

yeah yeah honestly that's right 100% like he had a chat he started standing in his own end zone It has a chest pass to the defense. He's almost like he was spotting the buck's points to start. Yeah. And then he really should have had another pick on the next drive.

And then he kind of just, I don't even know if he settled down as much as, I don't know if he settled down or doubled down. But I know. He's just a force. Like every once in a while, he's just like a title wave that can't be stopped. And you know it too when like when you're going up against him in fantasy and it's just like, every drive he like runs in a touchdown and you're like,

oh my God, this guy's going to put a fucking thing. points against me. So Josh Allen, I mean, honestly he's like a runaway train of fantasy points sometimes. You go through it, it's all, it looks fake. I mean, first of all, Josh Allen had more touchdowns than Herbert, Mahomes,

Lamar, Darnold, Bo Nix, Matt Staffer and Baker combined, which is just funny. And then also, no one else in NFL history has had, or sorry, Josh Allen is more games with three passing touchdowns and three rushing touchdowns than everyone else in the NFL history combined.

Like, Josh has done it twice. Otto Graham did it once in like 19, All auto. And that was it. That's the entire list. Also, I'm sorry in advance for not looking up the 1954 Browns ahead of time. So right now. Yeah, I'll do it right now.

Yeah, this was an interesting game. Storyline from the Bills is that Keon Coleman got benched, not benched. Was he late? He was made inactive because I believe he was late for a meeting or a practice camera. But it sounds like this has been a thing that's happened multiple times now. and then the guy, I guess, ostensibly that replaced him, Tyrell Shavers is his name. San Diego State. It scored a touchdown.

Yeah. So, I don't know. That's just an interesting storyline. I don't want to make of that. But obviously, Kea Coleman, things are not going great for him right now. I was trying to stall while hyphids looked up the team. The starting safety for the 1954 Browns was named Ken Kons. Yep.

Ken Kons. With two K's. Ken Kons. What was his middle name? Oh, boy. That's a good point. Yeah, I don't know. Hopefully.

they had the other quarterbacks they had a guy named Warren Larr sure Warren we just don't have a lot of Warren Dante Lavelli was the right end wow and then there was another guy named Dub Jones just the first thing is Dub Dube that's cool Dub I like Dub Dub Dub This is my friend that's Jug that's Jug that's Cub Dude just passed away dub died last year is 99 years old 99?

Damn Did he fight in World War II? Yeah it was probably He was drafted in 1946. By the Army or by the NFL? Good question. No, they didn't have the draft 246. Oh, he was a Seahawk.

Dub? Dub. No way. Wait, what? He was a Seahawk. What are you talking about? They weren't around. He was not a Seahawk.

Unless he was playing in the NFL for 35 years. Oh, sorry, sorry. Wait, hold on. Sorry. Was he a literal Seahawks? I was skimming. I was skimming. He played for the Miami Seahawks.

Oh. That was a team? Of the AFC in 1946. Wow. The Miami Seahawks. Oh, and then they relocated at Baltimore. I don't know. That's, anyway, sorry.

I didn't know there was another Seahawk team before the Seahawks. I don't know. You learned something every day. Who knows? Anyway. Yeah, Josh John was cooking. Also, I actually think this is probably the, I wonder if this is the most valuable

fantasy football game ever for a quarterback. It's not the most points Josh has ever scored or quarterbacks ever scored. But if you look at the wider range of the day, talk about what happened earlier, there were only two other quarterbacks that even had over 20 points today. And they were Bryce Young and Jacoby Perci.

No one played them. I believe Bryce Young was played in 10% of leagues in Yahoo. Certainly not single quarterback leagues. If you look at... In those 10% of leagues, that was the people who had already abandoned their season and he was just stuck in their starting line. Exactly.

So if you look at who is actually playing in your lineups, Josh had double, if not triple or quadruple as many points as like every other quarterback. So maybe it's not the most points ever in a week, but compared how bad the overweek was, he was probably more valuable as a quarterback this week than any week that there's ever been. Justin Fields was the QB4 this week.

And even he was played in less than half of leagues. In my home league, I had Lamar and Justin Herbert, who collectively scored seven points up against Josh Allen, who scored 42. Yeah. I was like, well, I can't win. It's pretty incredible. What am I going to do?

The other person who's cooking in the same game. So the bills, God, it was crazy because the bucks played well, but the bills beat the bucks. Oh, God, what was the final score here? It was a lot to a little. 42 to 31 or something? 44 to 32, yeah. Which was crazy because Sean Tucker, for the Buccaneers, went absolutely crazy. Sean Tucker had 21 touches for 140 yards from scrimmage and three touchdowns.

Sean Tucker, 33 fantasy points, number one running back in week 11. Sean Tucker. He did this last year, too. He had like a really ridiculously huge game than he did absolutely nothing the rest of the year. He had like 230 yards. This one I actually did, I talked about this to the ringer pregame show

because I just think the bills run defense. I mean, it's rare, I think, for a running back to kind of dominate. Like I think it was interesting to see the bills really get rocked on the ground and it didn't matter. Like that was the part of Josh's performance that was so crazy to me was I thought

the bucks were going to control the game in the running game and it would throw the bills off. And it didn't matter at all. it didn't matter at all. Josh just like, I mean, Baker had more and more mobility than people thought, but I mean, yeah, Josh was super, he looked like,

he looked like last year's MVP today. He looked like unstoppable. With that said, though, about Sean Tucker, I'm officially, I'm out on Rashad White. Like, I can't do the, like, Bucky Irving's had another week, baby. Rashad White, let's do it. It's just not, he puts up seven points a game,

and then Sean Tucker gets all the cool carries and explosive plays. And Rashad White just eats up snaps and does nothing. I think Rashad White got this far because he wears one and Sean Tucker was 44. But if Sean Tucker wore one and Rashad White wore 44, Rashad White might not even be active. It's a great call. Speaking of weird jerseys.

My who's cooking. My IKEA, who's cooking? Trevion Henderson. We fucking did it. We did it. I didn't watch this game. I was at a movie screening. And as I was driving there, I was with my brother.

and I was like, oh, can you check the score of the Patriots game? I was like, I desperately need Trayvon Henderson to have a good game. Like, I'm desperate. I have Jonathan Taylor's on by, whatever. I need it to be, and this needs to be the week. They're playing the Jets. This is it. It's Thursday at football also because if it's bad, it sits there for days.

Yes, and he goes, oh, he's got 60 yards at halftime. And I was like, you know what? That's not so bad. And then he goes, and two touchdowns. And I went, stop! And then he scored another one during the movie. I checked my phone. we fucking did it boys

90 yards three touchdowns 29 points the RB3 on the day he looked good all of his touchdowns were impressive both the runs were like 7 yards shimmies to like spin move stayed on his feet shook a couple guys looks great

caught five passes anyways he's sell high because Ramandre's back soon probably I would think yeah probably I think for your emotional health you might want to divest Just get a good player, though. Don't get a crappy player.

I think Zach Cox posted this on Twitter. By the way, the Patriots on Thursday Night Football had, I don't know what they call it, Noreaster uniforms? The Noreaster uniform. Which I guess, do you guys know what Noreaster is? No. The wind, right?

Nor'easter. It's a storm, but yeah. Right. I guess that's close. Noreaster's blowing something strong tonight. I didn't realize until just now, until you said the word or Easter. I'm like, you guys have, I mean,

it literally has Northeast, like kind of write the name. But yeah, it's a weird joke. It's like sailor jargon. I had a realization about the jerseys during that Jetsky Patriots. And again, again, I don't think Justin Fields is going to play again for the Jets.

Hold on. Before we move on, I want to finish my thought, and then you can say your thing. He said, we're making the font bigger every time he scores the touchdown. Because Tramion Anderson's font now, especially on these Noreaster uniforms, is like maybe even bigger than normal.

I think it's actually bigger than Remodger. I wanted to wrap around to the front. That's true. Yeah. Anyway, go ahead. That's good. No, we should just wrap. We will make it bigger. Every touchdown, he gets a little bit bigger font. A little bit bigger. That's it for who's cooking this week. Brought to you by our friends at IKEA.

We all want to cook, whether it's in fantasy football or in your dream kitchen. And at IKEA, you can find everything you need to create yours. From big dreams like whole new kitchens to smaller ones like stylish plates, bring them to life with high quality, expertly designed and innovative products. visit ikea.us slash dream kitchen to learn more dream the possibilities it's so over we're so back deke who is so back this week bryce young at least until the next time he plays the falcons

Bryce young owns the falcons inexplicably I don't know what's going on with this last week we were pretty much given up on him I think I said we know the story like he's it's over they're going to someone different next year and then Bryce comes out and passes for 448 yards which was 120 more

more than the next closest game he's ever done in his life. Also, it was a career high. Sorry, it was a 30 to 27 win over the Falcons in overtime. Bryce now has... 448 with 3 touchdown no picks is fucking crazy. I got to be honest, DK. The number one defensive DVOA team. DK.

DK. For a while. DK. You texted us that Bryce Young might be my winner this week. And I was like, that's stupid. Why did you want to do that? And then I looked it up and I was like, 448.

What? Yeah, 448 yards. It's more than Cam Newton ever did for the Panthers. Were you guys aware of this during the game? I feel like I was not... I was watching this game. Yeah, me too.

And it did not really register to me that he was flirting with 500 passing yards. He got hurt for a while. I thought he was done. And then he came back in and he's just dropping dimes out there. Well, he had some really horrible, like, snap fumble situation.

and he was limping and his ankle hurt. He stepped on him and he was in agony. He was like writhing on the ground. There's just, you know, look, he did a great job in this game. And like I said, he's played the Falcons really well in his career. He's now four and one in his career against the Falcons. He's like Davis Mills.

But there are times where he looks just like a little kid out there. It's crazy. It's crazy that he was the first overall pick. It's crazy that he's still an NFL starter. And look, I understand like he can do some magical things sometimes. But yeah, this was, was, it fell out of character. He is the perfect we're so back candidate because you know in seven days it will be so over.

The NFL's a funny sport because I feel like there are certain performances that the collective media just willingly ignores. Like no one will talk about this. No. You know what I mean? Honestly, what are the reasons we needed to do this, this discussion? We didn't learn anything from this game, Craig. Everyone will just be like, I didn't understand this.

outline and I won't respond. This is the only record there will be of this of this. Plater platter. It's like, it's like Michael Wilson today having 11 catches for 185 yards whatever it was. No one, everyone's just like I don't know what to do with that. I'm just going to leave it over there.

What was the Jacoby percent's not? This was the most random thing I've ever. Oh yeah. Jacoby percent had an NFL record for most completions in a game today. Dude, he was 47 completions and he completed 80 percent of his passes. He was 47 for 50 That's a great score on a test.

How did they lose by so much? What was the final? He played terribly, I swear. It was 41 to 22. The game was never close. It was never close. They didn't play well. He set a record for completions.

He had 450 yards. Michael Wilson had 15 catches for 185 yards. And Jacobi percent had 900 passing yards today. And also, you know what? Brissette also looked like he was in agony at multiple points. I was way more thinking that Jacoby Brissette was going to be hurt and Kyler Murray would have to start next week that I was thinking Jacoby Percette was going to break an NFL record for completions.

It's pretty impressive to have 47 completions, 450 yards, and only score 22 points. I know. I was going to say 47 completions and none of them were really that memorable or important. Like, okay. So wait, hold on. I want to get this right. So this week, Jacoby Brissette had 47 completions for 450 yards and they scored 20 points. Last 22 points.

Last week, Justin Fields had 54 yards passing and they scored 27 points. Also, 40 of them were on one screen to Breece Hall behind a screen. Like six forward passes. Oh, my God. What happened? Arizona, like, doubled San Francisco's yards. Well, it's because they were, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I understand that.

Let me just work their way down the field. Pick. That was what the Cardinals were doing. It was like 70 yards of offense, interception. Fumble. Anyway, the Cardinals have had some of the, I mean, between that and the Titans game, just a lot of crazy things to Crohn's this year. I don't know how to say this.

I don't really know what I mean, but I feel like the Cardinals are the most irrelevant team in the NFL this year. Do you know what I mean? I do. Like there are worst teams, like the Jets are more relevant. you know what I mean? I would say it's like the Cardinals, the Saints are really irrelevant.

And it might be those two. But I just feel like the Cardinals are just, they're just not a conversation. To your point, I think the Cardinals are the team, like Sal just didn't, Sal didn't know that you could edit the multi-view. So on YouTube,

like he had no idea until two weeks ago, which I think is the funniest thing. So he watched the Cardinals game? So, well, maybe. But I think the Cardinals are the team that sometimes if you have the multi, maybe there's like five games on and you only,

you put like three on and there's four. And like, you know, maybe you had red zone on and three games in the multi-view. You had no idea there was a fourth game on in the window. It would never really affect you that the Cardinals, you know, you could just live your life and you could never know about the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, they're like a side character team. It's like, they have good players.

Like, Trey McBride is on some ridiculous pace of games in a row with five catches. He's like the best tight end in fantasy. And yet, you know, another touchdown today. You know, 115 yards in a touchdown today, 10 catches. and yet it's just like the Cardinals are just not in the consciousness. No. I will say a lot of people in several places, several betting sites had the Cardinals with better odds. Sorry, their over-under was higher than the Seahawks coming to the season, which I always thought was laughable.

Sad to get that out there. Did you bet it? No. Do you have the C-Rex 70 to win the Super Bowl? It got you? No. All right. Well, cool.

I'll be rooting for you. What was the other? Oh, I can't The Cardinals defense is just awful. But you know what? They don't matter. Craig, who else is so over for? It's so over for J.J. McCarthy.

It's over. The Bears won a close game today, 1917. But like, McCarthy was so bad. And see, look, I know he's only played five, six games, whatever. We talked earlier this season about how there are some quarterbacks you come into the league. And you usually know, even if there's, not winning, even if they're not, the stats aren't there. Like, Drake May last year, I think he won one game.

Did they zero or one game last year he won? But you kind of knew, right? You were like, oh, I just, it feels right. Even when the Vikings win or whatever, it just doesn't feel right. And sometimes, like, there was guys like Caleb who even when they're not winning, they have like the freaky traits where you can at least be like, there's, like, even Anthony Richardson, you're like, well, there are things he can do that other people can't do. J.J. McCarthy does not have the freaky traits.

and he also just like doesn't have that like this guy knows what he's doing factor he just doesn't he didn't have either and so i know it's six six games or however many he's played but it looks over yeah no i was going to say pretty much the same thing he looked really bad again he did have one nice drive at the end of the game that's kind of like been the story for him it's like he's terrible all game long and then he kind of catches fire for one drive maybe he's timet he's boot and rally but then he actually doesn't really rally like he tries to call the uber and get back but he doesn't make it to the Uber. Boot and rally and boot.

He was 16 of 32 for 150 yards, a touchdown and two picks. I think he... He throws up in the Uber. That's what he is. And it's going to cost the Vikings like $40 million, yeah. He among some of the young quarterbacks that we talk about all the time,

like you're saying, you can either tell or you can't tell or whatever. Somebody has it. Like he makes, to me, the least impressive, he's been the least impressive in terms of the throws he makes, the accuracy. It's all very unimpressive for the most part,

other than that one quarter against the Bears in week one. So, yeah, I'm starting to get pretty worried about. The Vikings were down to 16 to 3 at some point in this game. They came back. They had the two touchdowns in the fourth quarter. But, I mean, Justin Jefferson looked absolutely just distraught at various points in this game. I will say there were a couple.

I mean, Jordan Addison had a big drop. Big drop in the first quarter where, frankly, Jordan Edison might have scored a top. touchdown on a that would have bought JJ McCarthy a lot of time. And like, yeah, it's his fifth, sixth start. But again, big game for JJ McCarthy. I just, this is the thing. It's just the Vikings

aren't a team that's necessarily like ready to wait. And so there's this weird timeline thing where it's like, well, give JJ McCarthy time, five, six games. You can't judge them. I know. But the Vikings, you're going to get passed by the lions, the Packers, and the Bears. Like this year, you're going to go in being like, or do you bring in competition? What are you going to do?

Like, I think that this is a real weird spot for them in McCarthy because it's Like the nine thing, the whole like, oh, when nine goes to the fourth quarter, it's like kind of funny when they win. And it's just kind of, it's just kind of weird when they don't. Super cringe when they don't win. His mechanics, he looks like someone who didn't throw many passes in college. And his mechanics are, like, there is no rhyme or reason to what's going on. Like, he's short on some throws.

And then he's like over striding and he's throwing it over guys' heads. He's like throwing it way too hard on passes that are right in front of his face. and then he's throwing it like just they're all kind of just a little too short on things and they can be touched down downfield like there's not even that's a better that's a much better way of that's pretty much what I was trying to say it's like there's at very few points in the game I'm like oh this guy's good you know what I mean like he's just making these horrific throws also this came up today he can't throw a left like if you look at his numbers from the right to the right and to the left a dramatic dramatic difference he's Derek Zulay

It's like it is truly the mechanics. Jaylen Brown. If it's the mechanics are off. When he throws left, it just looks more labored. I don't know what the deal is. But that's going to be something that teams take advantage of because if you can't throw to one side of the field, that's going to be tough. I mean, look, this is it's so over, we're so back.

This category, the whole point is that these things change overnight. So maybe in two weeks he'll be so back, but right now it's so over. I have something that's so back. Okay. Spitting. You know, week one. Jalen Carter spit on Dack Prescott. Where's replay assist there?

I know. For my boy Jalen Ramsey, who was just defending himself. I feel like, can we get replay assist to be like, actually Jemar Chase spit in his face and he was defending himself? He's going to get suspended. Well, whatever, he got taken out of the game. I don't know. So, again, so what happens?

So Jailen Ramsey punched Jemar Chase and got ejected. Turns out Jemar Chase hawked a lugeezy right in Jailen Ramsey. Oh, a big wet one, dude. It was huge. It looked like fucking Spider-Man. Shotgun splattered. Unbelievable. It was thick.

It was viscous lugy. Like really like, I don't know. Flem. Unbelievable spray. All right. Like the ocean, D.K. And anyway. Nor Easter.

It's like Nor Easter of Lugie. It's like blowing into your face. All over Jay and Rams. An atmospheric river of spit. An atmospheric river of Lugie or Easter spit. There was one of those in L.A. this weekend, by the way. There was an atmospheric river in L.A. God, we got to get weathermen to name our show and shit.

Why do we have so many of these atmospheric river? It dumped. That's God. Anyway, so Jalen Ramsey punched Jemar Chase for this Atmosir River spit. He got kicked out of the game. Yeah, and like it was funny because Jamar Chase then was asked, did you spit on him. And Jemar Chase said no, which is funny because he definitely did.

And then it was even funnier because Jail. Denied, deny, deny, deny. He's just like, no, I didn't open my mouth, which is like, well, you did. But it was also funny because then Jail. He's like, release the spit files. I got nothing to hide. dude, there might have been a second spitter. I don't know if you know what he's going for.

But it was also great because then a reporter asked Jalen Ramsey after the game is spitting one of the most disrespectful things someone can do. And Jalen Ramsey says, quote, it is. It's what pussies do, quite honestly. And quote. Oh my God. That was a real close. He said quite honestly.

He said it's what pussies do quite honestly. Wow. Which I don't know why that makes it so much funnier, but it does. It does. It's a banger. So I think journalistically, I think they have to ask Jamar Chase is

spitting what pussies do. Like, they have to, they have to ask Jamar Chase that question. That's actually, it would be such an awesome question to hear him have to respond to him. Hey, Jamar, Jamar, Jamar, is spitting what pussies do? Quite honestly, is spitting what pussies do?

Quite honestly. If you had to be quite honest about it. We just need your comment. Anyway, I just thought this was great because honestly the Steelers just kind of destroyed the Bengals. in this game. It was a very classic Steelers. The Steelers are also kind of back because Aaron Rogers hurt his wrist. Mason Rudolph came in this game. Nothing mattered. The Steelers defense

outscored the Bengals offense. The Steelers are both a mess. Looked awful last week versus the Chargers. Classic Tomlin didn't matter. Like the Steelers last three weeks have had nothing in common with each other. Any of the-looks horrible against the Packers, beat the Colts, looked terrible against the Chargers, beat the Bengals. And it's, I actually have a theory developing about the Steelers that the fact they're 9 and 7 every year means they should never be bet on because there's no possible way you could make a profit betting on the Steelers. I've decided that there's no way that that math works out ever. But Rogers has a small fracture in his wrist, it looks like.

I was surprised he came out of the game because I'm like, it's his non-throwing hand. Yeah. Well, I heard he tried to come back in and they didn't let him. Oh. Because he's 42. That's what he told him to say. That's the narrative he's peddling. No, this sucks.

I feel like everyone's like, oh, Mason Rudolph's going to be better than Aaron Rogers. I don't think he is. Mason Rudolph sucks. We know what's sucks. Aaron Rogers is better than Mason Rudolph right now. I feel confident saying that.

But, no, he's going to be good for a quarter after he was in there. He's going to throw one deep pass and he'll be like, see, and then Mason Rudolph's going to suck for the next three weeks. It's so funny that you guys are winning the NFC North,

and you're going to win the NFC North. You're not going to do. No, they're not. My exact prediction is coming true. True. The Ravens are five and five. The Steelers are six and four. The Steelers are going to lose to Chicago next week. And the Ravens are going to beat the Jets and the division will be tied. I think we should add this to our list of things for the Ringer 107. I don't think we should we should ever gamble in the Steelers. There's no point. There's no way that you can. Well, Sal, never get involved in a land war in Asia. Never bet on Jared Goff playing in the cold.

Sal figure it out on the Steelers ever. Sal is you bet the Steelers to lose the first half and win the game. And he made a ton of money doing that. And that is the bears this year, as you bet. The Bears will lose the first happened when they're game. And now they're playing next week. It's going to be the weirdest game ever. Yeah, those are weird teams. Another weird team. DK, we're so back.

You said Christian Watson's so back. Christian Watson is so back. I just wanted to give Kristen Washington, Watson a shout out because he just flashes. He's really, really explosive. When he's healthy, I think he's a, I don't know what the number is. He's a top 10. No, I was going to say like top 25.

receiver in the NFL, which is still saying a lot. There's like a lot of very good receivers in the NFL. But he's extremely explosive, basically just a threat to score anytime he's on the field. And he did that twice in this game. I think he's made a big difference for their offense, for the Packers' offense, who right now is really banged up. Tucker Kraft is out for the year. Matthew Golden has not panned out the way they think they wanted him to so far.

Romeo Dobbs, I think he's a good role player, but he can't, he keeps dropping the ball. He's had so many drops the last few weeks. but I think he's like a good third down you know move the chain type of guy not necessarily a big play field tilting receiver like Christian Watson so I just wanted to shout out Christian Watson he scored two touchdowns today

46 hours I think he's top 10 he's just back back would you top 10 or top 5? No not top top 6 let's let's get over Christian Watson's two touchdowns today were unbelievable yeah they were like were really really really really impressive but he had clamps for hands

And I kind of forgot that all those contesting catch touchdowns he had his first season was because he, like, I don't know, sometimes those big, talented guys don't necessarily have the best hands. And the first one was true. He basically caught it with the Giants defender's arm in the middle of his hands. And he just caught the ball anyway and clearly had possession. And I was kind of blown away. And then the touchdown, the kind of ice thing. And the Packers won 2720. And honestly, the last touchdown he had was we always talk about how T. Higgins, I still think, has the crown with Justin Jefferson.

If Justin Jefferson never catches a ball again, I can't remember any times recently. But, like, Watson kind of today reminded me that he's like a second tier catch point guy. It's unbelievable. He just has great feel. And those down-the-field guys are so valuable to teams. Like the Alec Pierce types,

like those guys are just so useful for good teams. Watson right now has the second highest explosive play rate in the NFL. It came up in ACL tier, and he's the only way they can move the chains. It's bizarre. Again, he tore his ACL in like week 16 or something. In December last year,

It's remarkable. He looks awesome. He looks super explosive and healthy. We have to remember that just because he did this, we can't be like, well, Christian Watson did it. Yeah, outlier. Yes. Can't include the outlier.

Next up here, America's favorite segment. Fart or Shart? It's time for America's favorite segment. America's favorite segment. Fy. Or Short. Maybe he's laxed us intolerant. This guy's been fart in all his damn season.

Speaking of last. I love that we're going to be on Netflix with that. They can still change their bodies. Speaking of lactose intolerant, I need to shout out Milky, who sent me an actual, I begged lactate to sponsor us, and they ignored us. So Milky sent me this. And look, you guys have seen me with my stupid little packets of lactate.

It looked like a moron. You sent me a whole box one time. And I... Those dumb lactate pills. It looks so stupid. Look at this. Look at how much cooler, how much less stupid it looked. Oh, those are stylish.

Check it how sexy. pull it out. And it look a much less dumb, I look with that. It's like having a fucking black card. I just sit there, dude, I remember getting pizza with you guys in Phoenix. Is that an MX? What is that? I know. Do you remember all my packets end up on the fucking table? Oh my God, you feel so stupid.

It's actually very true. It's like you got rappers all over the place. You feel like an idiot. Also, for some reason they look like they've been in your pocket since like 2012. They're like half disintegrated. They're like papers coming off. If I pull out a bottle and I start taking pills, like that's

also weird. So, anyway, so, Milky, there you go. Just pretend it's a Zinn or something. Yeah, you got to try, go the Milky Way. Damn, that's good. But maybe they wouldn't do that right because of the candy bar. There's dairy in it. Maybe that's the point. Flywheel. They should pair up. Maybe they should just jam milkeys inside of Milky Ways. What do they taste like, Hyfitz? Are they delicious? No, you don't taste it. Hyphids, what do you think if they made candy bars that had lactate in the coat?

Well, they do that. They do that with milk. Like milk, like they sell milk that has like the, like, lactase-free milk. So it's like regular cow's milk, but they just basically take the crushed up pills and they just kind of add it to the milk. So it tastes the same though. Oh, is that at? I thought they remove

the lactose from the milk. So they say they remove the lactase, but what they're actually doing is they're adding lactose is the enzyme, and they're adding an enzyme to break. So they're, by quote unquote removing it, they're like deactivating. They're neutralizing. Got it. neutralizing by addition, not subtraction.

Exactly. But it's harder to explain that. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Anyway, Craig, I'm going to flip this one on you for once. Oh, really? Hell yes. You love to put D.K. on the spot here. How fucking dare you? Justin Herbert. My guy. Justin Herbert and the Los Angeles Chargers lost to the Jacksonville Jaguars 35 to 6.

Embarrassed. What the hell was this game? points. Craig, is this a fart or a shart for Justin Herbert? Depends on the context, I think. Oh, now you're asking for a little bit of nuanced. Pathetic response. Oh, now he wants new ones. This is, okay.

You know what? Fine. Bullies. It's a shart. I think it's a shart. No, it's not. I do. Well, here's what I mean by context.

Do I think that this team can make any kind of impact in the playoffs? I don't. Do I think Justin Herbert is going to be. them in fantasy down the stretch, I don't. So in that regard, it is a fart. I mean, it is a shard. Dude, they lost 35 to 6 to Jags. I don't know what it is, but there's something about the charges flying in Florida.

Doesn't work. They can't do it. It doesn't work. I love that. You called that. I did. I just, I know it. You said that.

I was like, what the fuck is this guy talking about? I'm telling you. People can't go to Florida. Every now and then there's some football narrative. Ever. Every now and then there's some football narrative, I just don't get. Someone here at the ringer made the point, yeah, you know, it's just to Herbert's going to play, it's going to be like 78 degrees.

And I'm like, that seems fine. What was their point? That he can't play in Florida. And I was like, Frank said that. I'm like, why did you? And I was like, that's good. It doesn't make any sense to me. And then I watch this game.

I'm like, man. Dude, Justin Herbert, I said earlier today, I said Lamar had the worst fantasy performance of his career. Today was the worst fantasy performance of Justin Herbert's career. He had three fantasy points today. mind you, seven days ago, Davis Mills scored 27 points. Mind you. Against the Jags.

And today, Justin Herbert, 81 yards and a pick. He had zero passing yards in the second half. Zero. Carlos pipes in here. That's why the dolphins didn't make the wrong pick by passing on Herbert. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, you guys are crushing here. He's like he would never have succeeded.

Look, I don't think this is an indictment on Herbert, anything like that. I genuinely think that, like, I can't remember a team where every year I go, yeah, this excuse also counts. We have to wait another year. Like, the offensive line is- It's been six seasons of wait till next year. And I think every year, you can make a real case for it. The, I think that the charges problem, obviously, the offensive line has been obliterated. But they also, we've talked about the ton, obviously, left tackle, right tackle, third string.

Like, they have all these, they've a freaking, they're walking wounded out there at the offensive line. The defensive line, though, is also just really underperforming. And I just feel like, frankly, the Chargers just, I feel like they just get bullied. And the interior defensive line, and they are not capable right now of playing football the way that Jim Harbor wants to play football. Like he said today, we lost every way you could possibly be beat. We were out physicaled. But they kind of get out physicaled a lot. And I just feel like the Chargers, they need a lot more beef.

obviously they need healthier tackles, but I just, I don't know. You watch certain teams, I just feel like the Chargers just, they're never really in control of any game. It's just funny, because that week one game in Brazil against the Chiefs, I was like ready to risk it all, as the kids say. I was like, dude, this is going to be a top two seed in the AFC. Herberts to win the MVP, and they are legitimately in the running to win the Super Bowl. And I believe you said the Chargers aren't doing the Chargers thing anymore. Yes. We thought they broke the curse.

Sweet Summer Child. Nope. He had the worst fantasy performance of his career against the fucking Jags. What are the Jags, by the way? What are they? They're the good bad team. I don't know what to make of the Jags.

They're the bad team that beats the other bad teams, but they're not good. Yeah, I agree with that. Should Jags fans? I mean, obviously, after this game, they are, but like in general for this season. There's reason for positivity, right? But after last week, I think people were pretty apoplectic. I think the Jags, unfortunately, I think as long as they have Trevor Lawrence, you're going to be stuck in that no man's land of like, can't win with him, can't win without.

Josh Allen Hines became the all-time, a lot of weird records this week, but Josh Allen became the all, sorry, Josh Hines Allen. Josh Allen just rolls off the tumbler. Josh Hines-Alan became the all-time leader for Sacks for the Jaguars, which he's good, but also he's not that old. And it kind of threw me off. And I know the Jags aren't that old. But this dude, how, he's like 28. kind of threw me off a little bit. But yeah, I guess it makes sense.

But that between Travis Kelsey became the all-time leader and touchdowns for the Chiefs. And after the game, he was like, don't talk to me about this. I'm not really happy about it. And then the other one

was Mark Andrews just became the all-time receiving leader for the Ravens today. Yeah. And I was like, oh yeah, that is wild. And Keenan Allen recently just did that for the Chargers?

Yeah, and even that one was like a little pop bass. I'd like, yeah, it was just a lot of weird, meaningless records, but yeah. Herbert threw for 81 yards. cards. Correct. 10 completions.

I'm telling you, it was the worst game of this career. I also think, when I'm looking at his stat line, I'm like, what the fuck? What happened in this game? Kamii Vidal. 11 minutes left in the game, they're like, ah, we're good. Kamani Vidal got a hurt in this game, and I don't think that helps them. Like, I don't think it helps that they're, I mean, what is that? That means they're down to their fourth string running back.

No, no, no, Fist. Naji Harris, I have to count. Nogierrez, Omerin, Hampton, Hasson, Hassan, Haskins, Kamene, so I guess Jared, I mean, yeah, people have never heard of Amar Johnson. I don't even know who that is. I have a Treveon Williams. Like, I can't believe he's on the charge.

Like, this is fifth and sixth-string running backs. So, I mean, Trey Lans had to play this game. But the problem to me is that the Jaguars ran all over them. Yeah. Tudin was really good. Almost debut time for Tudin, but he got hurt. We, yeah, we'll have to talk about him on waivers. We don't have a timeline.

Tud was loose for a while there. He'd be Tooten. Yeah, he snuck out. It's not far to Shart. He'd just beat Tooten. Yeah. No one, okay, fine. That's fine.

That's all right. Intrusive thoughts. My intrusive thought today watching Giants Packers was I thought Malik Willis played significantly better than Jordan Love. And I felt that when Jordan Love returned the game, the Giants had a better chance to win. I had the same exact thought. Not that I really felt it or believed it, but I had the thought. I know that's wrong, but I felt that way. I mean, what?

They were two and L last year with Malik? Yeah. I just, Jordan Love, it's, there's something, he, I don't know, Blake Willis came in and he just looked like a better quarterback. Do a great touchdown of Christian Watson. There are a lot of quarterbacks in this league with big contracts with a lot of talent and you watch them play and you're like, you're not, I don't know. And it's weird because I don't know if Malik Willis can throw a football.

But he could today. Yeah. I think we need, should there be less teams? I don't like all the bad teams. Like, it's not fun. quarterback's so hard. There's only like 15 good ones. I figured, we just had 15 teams. I got it.

It should be, it should be like the- Make them all good. That'd be fun. It should be like the rule with the Bill's Fantasy League where they're 13 teams in a 12-team league. And if you come and last, like, you don't get, we should just pick a team right on the eve of the season and be like, you guys don't get to play this year. Or last place in every division gets cut each year. So you lose eight teams every year. So there's only 24 teams in the league. And the last place of each division has to sit the year out.

So what happens when the Giants come and last every year? They just don't play. It's never play. Yeah, that's a good. Actually, I'd probably save a lot of time. That sounds good to me. Think about all the hobbies you could get into. Oh, my God.

Woodworking, bird watching, painting. Yeah, can make so much bread. That's real happiness. I would love to get into woodworking. It's going to be my old. Would you? Yeah, no. That's going to be my old person thing.

We had carpentry in my high school as a class, but I didn't take it. Shop? Yeah, I did shop instead of a, I somehow got out of music. So I could do wood shop. It's like a free period with power tools and saw. So it was pretty sick. That is cool. It's always wild to me that they have that in high school.

I know. They're like irresponsible kids. Use a table sauce. I'm like in 10th grade. It's great though. It was a good time. Jackie can do stained glass. And so I think she's going to try.

I know. That's cool. It's very cool. It's a crazy process. I love niche weird skills like that. It's wild. Yeah. So I'm going to try to do what we're,

I mean, you start with making stuff for the pets where, you know, if it's ugly, it doesn't matter. And then you can progress to people. When the world goes to shit, I need a tangible trade. You know, that's why I'm making bread so I can feed people. Craig, you can type. I can type. Yeah, I did take typing in middle school.

Did you? That's why I'm learning to make bread so I can feed so they keep me around. Oh, that's really good. Oh, my God, I can barely type. We can't kill him. He makes bread. Yeah. Well, it's like the guy on Survivor.

They never vote the guy off who can. fucking fish. Because they need them. It's true. He makes it to the round when they all combine. Like if you can deliver food, they keep you around. Tales old as time, Daniel.

He gets something very worried about his inability to do anything other kids. Unless you can make a fucking tortilla from scratch, buddy. Those case it is ain't going to work. God. Okay. All right. Any other intrusive thoughts today, Craig?

Yeah. I think it, I can't explain it really, but I feel like sometimes the refs and the clock just like favor drama. Like today in the Rams Seahawks game, there was clearly a delay of game. And they just didn't call it because it was an important play.

And I believe that in my bones that they're like, just a half a beat. But it was like a set, it was clear, blatant delay of game to me. And they were like, nah, this is like third and eight and they're down seven.

Like, Darnel needs to snap. I think that's good and that's how it should be rest. I, I think that's good. Refere you should absolutely ref with context. It's not a design. It's a design, not a bug or whatever.

Dude, there was another one. It's a product. There was another really bad one today. It's why, because there was two. There was the darnal delay game. And then there was, ah, fuck, I didn't write this down. There was somebody who got out of bounds or they went down with one second left and they called the time out.

It was the Seahawks at the very end of the game. It was how the search got that 61-yard field goal. And the clock operator in L.A. Like, really quickly, like hit the stop button. Dude. him an extra second. That was so clearly at zero. No, Craig,

you know what's weird is technically, I don't know exactly this works, but Tika, isn't it the home team's clock operator? It's not like an objective league official. I think it's like that person kind of is like a team person. It's just some guy on the equipment manager. That was the longest second I've ever witnessed in their life.

Craig, I agree with what you're saying. They do juice it. Do you know the Eagles have, or I think the ravens, I forget who, have multiple times introduced. They want decimals to the time on the clock.

like the NBA. What is this? 1940s NBA? Multiple times the NFL has been like, nah, we kind of like just having 2-1-0. And I think this is why. Because then we can fucking do what we want.

They don't want you to know that it was like 0.1 seconds left when they called the timeout. Like maybe under a minute we have decimals or something? I don't know. D.K., did you have any intrusive thoughts today? I did start to think

what would the game have been like today if the Seahawks had kept Gino. Oh my goodness. Wow. That's depressing. I don't actually feel that way, but like, I did have that thought. It's a safe space. Wow.

Was it after, after which interception did you think that? The fourth one. Oh, it took four. That's good. Yeah. Well, I mean, he's like, he's got, he's got a lot of leeway because of what he's done prior. But the turnovers really are a fucking problem.

Um, but I don't, like, lead the NFL in turnovers. Not anymore. No, he doesn't. You know who does? Darnold. Fucking Sam Darnold. Oh, God. No, I'm just, I'm, I'm,

I'm like 99% kidding, but, but yeah. It's a fun thing. That's what the intrusive is, the one. Yeah. My one last quick intrusive thought as I was like, maybe the Steelers should design their entire offense around Darnow, Washington. Dude, I love this.

Every time they throw him to ball, something amazing happens. He had an incredible catching run today. He like, like Derek Henry, a guy to the ground, like bullied through another guy. I'm like, build the whole plane out of Darnel Washington's. And maybe we'd be fine. I think when he plays half the snaps,

the Steelers are like undefeated. Yes. I'm like, just fucking, he is. He is, he is, he's crazy. He's just like, they always say Trent Williams could have been a left tackle or could have been a tight end. And then I'm like watching Journal Washington,

I'm like, maybe they shouldn't have made Trent Williams and tight end. He's got good hands too. I don't know. I feel vindicated with what they've done with Darno, Washington of thinking he was like a first round talent when he was coming out. Because he felt to, what was it, the third round or something like that?

He was second round. Second round. I think it was, man. I remember, like, people were talking about him, like he's the next grunt. and that person was me. In a third round. You're right.

93rd. End of the third round. Yeah. He's just so big. He, the way he, he made a couple Bengals defenders today look very,

very stupid. He, very small. He, on that one catch where he broke like three or four tackles or whatever. The last guy that he hit, I don't remember who it was,

literally went flying like five or six feet. He's like, he went flying out of bounds, like, a long way. Like, you don't see that very often on the NFL field where a guy, like, it's run over so bad. He legitimately went flying. Like, the entire offensive team. Like, he got horizontal to the ground. Like, somebody up or cut him.

Why are we not, like, every play, the goal of the offense should be to get him on a crosser and give him the ball? Rumbling. Dick, I totally agree. It was so cartoonish. It was the people bouncing off of him. Like, I've never seen people ricochet off of human being. How much does he weigh like 375 pounds? He's like 280, dude.

He's a fucking load. I'd believe anything you told me about that guy. Oh, my God. We better resign him. The other one was amazing. The other one was, no, God, he just got, D.K., you remember. He just got drafted. No, this is year.

Two years ago. Year two. This is year three, right? three. This is your three. Get the fuck out. Now, my memory's bad. Oh, it is his third year. You better resign him. He'll probably resign him this summer. You better resign him, bow. Yeah, you're right. Wow, God, time flies.

He's so big. I had a couple of X. They were both in the Chiefs' Broncos game. One was, who's 31 on the Chiefs? I actually meant to look this up. After the game, he was trying to do a Jersey swap with Bo Nix. and Jeffrey Bopha

He was trying to do it. Oh, from Oregon, they went to college together. Could not get his pads off. This poor guy could not get his pads off. Joe Bassah over there. He could not. It took him so long.

And he just, like, you know, it's like you're getting a sweater off. It's trying to get a wet suit off. It's really hard. It's like, it's like seeing a celebrity and trying to like open up your phone and like the one time the camera, it's like isn't opening.

And you're like, fuck, I can't take a photo. It was. I had so much secondhand cringe for this guy. Hold on. It's asking me to put in a password. Hold on. Hold on. I have to delete some photos.

Yeah, so that was tough. The other one was quick. Did you guys see where they cut the court in Sutton right after a catch? He had a big catch in the fourth quarter. And they cut to him. And like every down and then, they just bad timing. And he just like does it, George just like spits in his hands and just kind of like rubs it on his gloves. And like it was a little horrifying.

just right just right after it's like that ball's disgusting he should be suspended for that anyway dick any icks uh I already mentioned it Keaton Mitchell volleyball setting a pass

eight feet in the air that was tough I won't I won't talk about him being the best running back on the Ravens anymore my ick Michael panics did this today I didn't realize it that I felt this way until today now that we have this

category. When a quarterback gets hurt, but they're healthy enough to keep their pads on and just stand on the sideline. This is what I call the Jay Cutler. Jay Cutler's like walking around, like no invisible loop. Michael Pennix had like a headset on. He was laughing. I'm like, getting the fucking game. You either need to be in the locker room with a brace on or you're in the game, my guy. What are you doing? He's just standing there watching Kirk Cousin's dying. Look like you're in pain. Yeah.

I'm like, sit on the bench at least. Look, you're standing? With your knee bruise? Yeah, it's like, oh, when they come out and street closed after the injury, I'm like, okay, he's a fully loaded headset, laughing right on the edge of the turf.

Like, he's on, he's basically on the field. He's so close. That's really good, Craig. I like that a lot. This is coming from someone who watched Ben Rothensberger play for years and years. Get your ass in the game. Ben Rothensberger, every game would get hurt and then go back in.

Ben's ankle would turn 180 degrees every second quarter and I'd be like he's going to be better in the second half. Ben would get, Ben would take a shot on person just to get loaded up with whatever they had in the locker so you could feel something. Yeah, he's the like the guy in street fights who needs to get punched first to like get mad. Yeah.

Oh my God. Play of the day. I mean, the best play. had to be, I mean, Mark Andrews taking the fake. Oh, yeah, redemption. That was sweet. For our boy, Mark. I mean, that was sick.

It was a, was it fourth and one or third and one? Fourth. Fourth and one. Pretent, they get all lined up in the tush push, and then he takes the ball immediately, like does a play action handoff fake and then just boots around. And he had, he got, he needed one block, and then he just beat everybody to the corner. It was actually very impressive. The tush push might be worth it because I love, I love now watching.

the iterations coming off of the tush push. Like now people are starting to innovate and come up with all these fake tush pushes, which I really like. This is what all... They like changed the angles. This is why I wanted the tush push to stay at the beginning. And Steve Ries did a good job talking about.

The tush push is the beginning of football. The tush push is like the single cell organism. Right. It was like, hike it and go and move forward. Forward, push him, shove them. And they're like, what if you pretended? All football developed. All the same way it's like we developed from...

What if you hand it off? The primordial... ooze with which football began. And the Mark Andrews thing was like the first genetic mutation off of this goddamn play. What if we, what if one time we didn't push and we faked it and ran the other way? So it's like all

football. We're just going to like slowly reinvent the entire sport. It's like Benjamin Button. Yeah, we're just going back to the Tushmash. Oh my God. Maybe we have to keep this fucking thing. The Tush push is the trad wife of football.

Harrison Bucker fucking love the push. It's the fucking trash play. Bare foot and pregnant, standing over the stove. Oh, God. Maybe Mark Andrews is back, I feel like. I like Mark Andrews again.

Back into it. That was good. I also want to shout out my play of the day. Ethan Evans is a man I didn't know existed until today. Oh, my God. I had this too, Craig. He's the punter for the Rams. It is the most accurate punt I've ever seen my life.

It was a crucial moment of the game. It bounced straight up at the one right down. The guy grabbed it. It was unbelievable. It landed about six inches away from the pylon. If it hits the pylon, it is a touchback. And it just landed right about it. And it gave the Seahawks.

They had to go, well, they didn't have to go 99 yards because they had to hit a field goal. But I looked at the game book. It took them over a minute of gameplay to get out past the 20. I kind of shoddy clock management there by Darnold. Oh, yeah. But if that ball goes into the end zone, the Seahawks probably win that game. Yes. Greg also nailed it.

I mean, I think there's a very good chance, yes. Greg also nailed it. Considering the fact that if you bounce the ball and it hits the pylon that it's a touchback, you could stand over the pylon and not actually get the ball. You could just drop the ball and you could probably not get it closer. Right. Then the Rams. And to that point, is that the best punt ever?

Probably. Like, was that just the best punt of all time? Great. That makes me feel so good. Well, it reached the level of like, you can't come up with a better one. So all of the other greatest punts of all time are just the exact same. It's a 99 difficulty punt. Yeah.

It's just the perfect punt. And also literally pinned them for the game-winning drive. So it wasn't for the Super Bowl anything. But like for a regular season game, it had a divisional rivalry. He'd think, well, he's like basically the best pun ever. So, sorry, D.K. Any other great plays here? Pooka made a really impressive catch early in the game where he, I don't know,

I don't understand how he got his other foot down. Some of these guys' body control is absolutely ridiculous. You've seen a few of these catches both in college and in the NFL over the last few weeks where I'm like, I don't understand how you got your other foot down. It doesn't seem physically possible. The Indiana guy. What's his name? Yeah, that play in particular.

His name was incredible! Well, that one was like he levitated and stuck his foot down. It was crazy. Can we play it? Can we play the thing? Yeah. Looking! It is intercepted at the goal line.

Oh, Jack Sawyer. Boyer the hero. Captain Jack. We did get tagged. There was an Eric Collins moment this weekend where he was actually nuts for a Lamello dunker 3. Did Lamello hit a 3 to cut the lead to 41? Yeah.

He lost his shit. No, it was a sick dunk, I think. Oh, was it? He was a dunk, yeah. Omar Cooper was the receiver, by the way, for Andy. Omar Cooper! Oh, Cooper! Other announcer stuff, though,

other than just God, Tony Romo just never... The fact that no one's given Tony Romo the note that Steve Spagnola's name is not Spagnola. Oh, I bet you they have. It's like, you know, parents who say, like, Chipote instead of Chipotle. How many times have their parents and have their kids been like that? It's Chipotle. Like, it's just...

People don't change. People don't change. He's a dad. I can't wait to start saying shit wrong. I know. Join the club. Come on in. The water's fine.

The other announcer thing that happened to me that I couldn't get over today was Today, we crossed an important threshold, which is, I think this season, the term getoff has gone from a way to talk about defensive ends in draft world prospect stuff. And now it's like announcers are talking about guys get off during games. And we've got to fucking hold the beach on this. No. Why? Why?

What's wrong? Let's sexualize it even more. What's wrong with that? Dude, you know why? I'll tell you what happened, Craig. I was hearing about was how these defense events, dude, we're talking about how these defense events, dude, man, these Denver Broncos,

they're get off on these guys. It's so fast. These guys have the fastest get off. And then they cut to some pass interference and they cut to Gene Sterator. And they're like, he's riding that wide receiver. He's riding the receiver. This is out of control.

I can't believe how hard he's riding him. And I'm like, this is like the fucking arrest of the development bit. It's like, you ride her. Don't be afraid to ride her. I, for one, am happy that we are praising a fast get-off. I think that's important to normalize it. Normalize fast get-offs. We should talk about it.

Not only normalize it, but perhaps praise it. You know, celebrate it. But not too soon. Not premature before the snap, right? No. You don't want to fail. Because that's illegal. We don't want to praise you for that.

No. That you have to work on. Once there's a snap. then as quickly as you can as quickly as explosively as possible. Look, the goal is to get to the quarterback. You know what I mean?

The goal? Well, that's one of the goals. You also got to stop the run. Right. I'm getting lost in these metaphors. You got to hold your gap. And good.

One gap or two. gap. You need to get off quick, good bend. You got to force the ball back in. Yeah. Capture the inside. Yeah. Right. I like all the sexual terms. I have it's. How do you guys feel when all the older announces? It's such a Puritan. Love with like, Bo Nix failed to hook up with Troy Franklin there. And I'm like, how long are we going to keep doing this shit? I know. My mom, my mom still does it. She's like, did you hook up with Chris last night? I'm like, no.

Shut up, mom. I hung out with him, all right? For the military. For the military, have time. We didn't do that. The fuck is wrong with you? Did you ever hook up with Chris? That was a long time ago, mom. Told you that in confidence. It's just order Chipote and be done with it. Hook up with your friends. God.

Email us at Ringer Fantasy Football at Gmail.com if your parents use shit like that, still like the hook on. It's led to a good story. Also, let me know. Email us if your parents mispronounce really simple, funny words. Yes. I want to know their mispronunciations. Yeah. A lot of people here say Washington for some reason.

That's an accent, though. Yeah, we're not talking an accent. We're talking like straight up. You're just getting it wrong. Yeah, they just get it wrong. Yeah, yeah. Like you're missing a letter. Got it.

Well, they're adding an R. It's like how everybody says my last name. Like some people, like, whole, whole brook, Hogback. Clark Hogback. Clark. If I ever get into adult film, it's going to be Clark Hoggback. You're getting off.

I start an only fans. They're going to be more like TikToks. That's true. Vine. I'm coming back for Vine. What be the fucking king of Vine? Any other doubts or stuff? Worst play of the day?

Can I add ER to play and pick Shador Sanders? Who was terrible today. Holy hell. Oh, man. Holy hell. Holy hell. That was, I mean, somebody, my buddy texts to be like, Shador Sanders is doing a remarkable job of turning 10-yard sacks into 20-yard sacks.

Shador literally, if you added up, played five drive. and gained four yards. Yeah, man. He was four for 16. Mm-hmm. You know. I mean, could have been worse. No, you know.

After the game, all the reporters were forced, they were forced to ask if he was going to remain the starter going forward. As a formality, they had to ask. And they got out ahead of it. Stefansky was like, no, you will not be. And Stefansi said this was the first snap he's played with the first team all year, was in the game. Yeah, probably. Because he sucks.

It's not a first team player. It's funny because when he first came, what's funny is he played terribly and the Ravens really almost lost this game. There was a drive there where he made like two throws in a row and it was like, oh. Man, the discourse would have been amazing

if they would have won. Well, speaking of this game, can I do a brief interlude while we're on Ravens Browns here? I would like to do the Shoha Tani tweeted the day for the in honor of the person

who, the brilliant person who said every time he's seen Angels highlight, it's like Mike Trout hit three home runs and raised his average to 528 while Shahe O'Tani did something that hasn't been done since Tungsten Armaudoyle of the 1921 Akron Groomsman as the Tigers defeated the Angels 8 to three. What are the all-time tweets? Raised his average to 528. I would like to nominate this thing I saw. Miles Garrett had four sacks today, giving Garrett 10 sacks in his last three games.

passing Lawrence Taylor as the first player ever to have 12 sacks in six straight seasons as the Browns lost to the Ravens 23 to 16. He's going to break the sack record this year. He's on pace for like 25.

He might break the sack record in like 14 games and they're going to win two games. Didn't he? He had like five in a game like two weeks ago, didn't he? He's 10 sacks in three games. What is he at right now?

What's his total? He's at like 15. He's at like 15. He needs seven and a half more for the record. In like seven, in like six games or whatever. Yeah, he's got 15. He's going to break the sack record or they're going to win two fucking games. He has to win defensive player of the year.

He breaks a sack record, right? Yes. They're going to win defensive rookie of the year too. Maybe it's Carson. I think it's going to be Carson-Schwestinger or the, um, or Nickyman and Warre for the Sealex is going to be one of them. It's not going to be Abdul Carter. So that's funny.

Other worst play of the day. God. this fucking guy. The Giants lost this game today because Jalen Hyatt cut off his route in the end zone with James went in with the game out of the line. Because it wasn't Lil Jordan. I hate Jalen Hyatt.

They need to cut him tomorrow. For those who don't know, I give a rant on Friday that I'm not going to lie. I was right. Incredibly pression. The Broncos poaching Lil' Jordan. The Giants fucking lost this game because they're cowards

and they're so afraid. I guess the point of my rant was that it sounds crazy, but the Giants don't maximize putting the best roster together. My rant was the Giants literally do care more about managing the media than just building the best team. And a weird example of that was they will not cut Jalen Hyatt because he was a third round pick and they're afraid they'll be made fun of in the media. And guess what?

Which is like, who the fuck would make fun of the Giants cut Jalen Hyatt? The guy they spent a third round pick on three years ago, embarrassing. Who's writing that? And you say that. No one would claim him and they could put him on the practice squad. And you would say that. And yet, guess what? Brian Dable was fired and Joe Shane stayed because the Giants,

owners clearly care about the media. So unfortunately, they were right. But here's the cost of it. They keep Jalen Hyde on the roster. And then Little Jor and Humphrey is the practice squad. They won't sign Little Jor and Humphrey because he would take up the spot. This is why they didn't have a fucking kicker. And they'd have a backup kicker when Graham Godot gets hurt

because they need to have Little Jordan Humphrey on this practice squad. So they lose the Broncos game in regulation because they didn't put a kicker on the practice squad because Little Jordan Humphrey's there because they can't sign them. So they lose the Broncos game in part because they don't have a fucking kicker. Then this week, Darius Slatens out

and they need freaking Lil' Jordan Humphrey and guess what the Broncos signed Little Jordan Humphrey? So Jalen Hyatt has to play. You know what Lil' Jalen Hyatt does in this fucking game? Jalen Hyatt with the game on the line is like, well, I'm covered, so I'll stop. And then James Winston threw the goddamn ball and the Packers just fucking fielded it like a punt

because Jalen Hyatt didn't run to the fucking ball. He didn't finish his route. Didn't finish his route. And he had a bunch of other mistakes that messed up the spacing of other plays that Amani Tumor, who's like a Giants legend, went through and just like, I just, I just, it wasn't even like, did he do anything? Giants, like, legendary receivers afterward just like, you know, young man, this is what you need for more reps.

Anyway, I, like, the Giants have lost multiple games this year because they haven't cut this motherfucker. That's a good loss. You guys have the second pick now. Yeah, they should be the starting quarterback. Do they really have the second pick? Yeah. Are you serious?

Oh, my God. The Titans and then you guys. That was really sad. Did you see how excited? I just got about that. You're like, ooh, maybe we get somebody good. That was really embarrassing. Get a good tackle.

That was a huge heck. Abdul Carter. Coach's decision missed the first quarter or something. What was that? Did you see that high fits? We've got to get the second pick. Stadium Pulse of the week. I thought the biggest stadium pulse, honestly, was Tua after the game in Washington and Madrid today, was asked if he'd like to play anywhere else.

And he said he would love to play a football game in Jerusalem. Didn't he say like, that'd be fucking awesome or something? Yeah, he'd be like, that'd be sick. Thanks God. And I mostly bring this up because I wanted to bring up the top reply to this, which was someone replied saying Tua State solution. Oh, my God. Which, Tua, can we get somebody needs to. Get the mic out of his head.

He's done letting him talk. I think he's having the worst press conference season in the history of press conferences. Do you think he actually wanted... He can't read the room, so he definitely can't read a fucking defense. That's D.K., you're cooking today, dude. Do you think Jerusalem was the first city he could think of,

or did he actually mean that? That's actually a great question. Did he just mean that? It's like with the TikTok trend of, like, name a woman. And you're like, Billi Airhart Joan of Arc Jerusalem

It's actually It's a really funny Like meme format Just name any woman Name a woman Can't be related to you Oprah Oprah

Winfrey Oh my God Where do you guys want to play What do you think that'd be cool Let's go to Italy It's like you said like Kiev or something. Give me a game in Rome or something.

Let's play a game in the fucking Coliseum. Probably too small, but that'd be cool. You can't do that. Dude, that would be sick, actually. That'd be sick. Fucking break down the Coliseum, play a game in there. She's fucking sick. Also, just to quickly interrupt for a second,

Kai said that his dad calls Netflix, Nexflix. Which is so much harder to say. NextFlix? Netflix. Netflix. Nalphilx. That's like actually the perfect example.

Yes. I love those. It's exactly what we want. NextFix. NextFlix. Put on Netflix. NextFlix. We should do that.

When we go to Netflix, we should bring that up. We should pitch it to them. Yeah. I'm like, Ted, you should think of maybe change the name. It's kind of like what's next. I really like that. Yeah. I think.

I just like the idea that someone just never learns that what the actual word is for it. I like my version more. Like Sonny and Kyle. Kai, do you think you can text this? Kai, do you think if your dad had to spell out Netflix, he would spell it correctly, but he just still says next flicks? Yes, okay. Yeah, he said yes.

So he knows. He just likes to call it next Netflix. Next flicks. I get it, though, because it's like next movie. Yeah. What is the next flick? It's kind of better. Makes more sense.

Maybe that's probably what, yeah. You know, it's not internet flicks. It's next flick to him. Well, that's kind of now we're getting around get off. Yeah. Okay. That's on my channel that I'm starting. Clark Hogback.

What was the Clark Hogback thing from? There was a sign in like Virginia. It wasn't it any corner of Clark and Hogback or something? So it was like, when I'm trying to remember that podcaster's name, but I'm not really, I'm close. Clark. Hogback The intersection of Clark and Hogback

and there's some crazy-ass name town in like Minnesota and there's a prison right there Yeah, right. If I ever write an action movie, the lead is going to be named Clark Hogback. Clark Hogback,

Pet Detective. The Lucille Bluth, I don't understand the stat line, I won't respond to it. We have to just give a shout out. Justin Fields is not long for this world. Like, Justin Fields is going to get benched. And we have to acknowledge

entering Thursday and football this week Justin Fields who we have joked for years about being like a Navy service academy quarterback I was up at two in the morning after the Thursday football game and I was bleary-eyed and I thought I was like seeing shit Justin Fields did in fact entering Thursday football

have the exact amount of passing yards as the Navy quarterback this season literally to the number to the number 1,143 yards they do they have the running the navy office starting quarterback in the NFL it's incredible anyway just had to throw that out too good i can't believe that midshipman justinfields thank you for your service justin field's midshipment

i was not the jets what is a midshipman i was just about to ask what a midshipman i imagine it's like a company i mean i think it's the the guys that are doing the their jobs around midship, the middle of the ship. Like if the fire service, there's like an engine company and a ladder company. And I imagine, I mean, those are obvious parts of a truck. I imagine the midship's the part of the ship, but I don't know. My guess, and I don't know, my guess would be that it has, it's an archaic term from like the old days when they were on like fucking old and time wooden ships with sales and whatnot.

Google says that it is a cadet in training. He's a midshipman. Okay. Two tight ends who outscore Kyle Pitts and a lie. Dude, Pitts is not doing well these days. All right. Are you guys ready for this? Yeah, Pitts had like two points today.

Well, speaking which, two tight-in-sout square Cal puts in a lie. First up, Colson Yankoff. Nope. That's a real guy. Hi, Fitz, I thought you were tired of the sexual innuendo. Colson Yankoff. He's the co-starred in the action movie with Clark Hogback. Colson Yankoff.

Yankoff. These are like characters from Boogie Knights' name. That's two on the nose. Tanner Hudson and Johnny Munt Tanner Hudson I barely know her Hudson Munt is Munt still on the Vikings

Johnny Munt What team is Munt I saw him do something today I'm not telling you I didn't see any Yankoff happening I'm gonna say Yankoff You didn't feel any

Can we put that on the Instagram story I didn't see any yank off Yeah I'll go Yank off Yeah no he didn't I just wanted to put that number there He is a real guy. He's a real guy. Can we get Colson Yankoff on the show?

Probably. If we book him, can we do it? And we just laugh at his name and then tell him to go. Like, Yank off, and he's like, yep. I'm like, all right, see you later. Tell us all the people in your family's name. If there's any funny ones. Johnny Munt is actually, he left Minnesota last year.

He's on Jacksonville now. Yes. It's like their third string tight end. and now he's to play. Be better, Greg. You didn't know Britain Strange and Hunter Long and their other third streak tight on, I forget, was Johnny Munn's play it now?

Well, I knew him in the Vikings. Strange and Long. Strange and Long led the link off. Okay, and then Burn Book, yeah, I just started, spoiled it at the beginning, but I'm like, A.J. Brown. I don't know how A.J. Brown had been burned, but I was so mad.

I almost don't. I don't believe it. I feel like we burned two people one week or something. There's no way we didn't burn him. There's no fucking way. I think we just were so angry at him. We forgot. You know,

It's kind of like, you know, a fish doesn't know. You're blind with rage. Yeah, fish doesn't know there in water. You know, it was like it's so obvious that we hate him that we kind of forgot. After week four, he had two catches for seven yards in that game. How did we not burn him? Actually, you know what happened? You said he was a by low like three days ago.

Savvy move. He is. He had 10 targets today. In theory, I was right. I'll tell you what happened. The first two weeks we weren't doing it. If he just decided to not give up on his route, he might have caught a 40-yard touchdown. It's because we do it in a hundred nine yards.

league that you're in. Crushing? My in theory league also has Trayvon-Henerson, who's killing it. The in-theory league is really funny. In theory, I went 15 and 0 this year. My air yards league.

Should we do a league this year with the theater just targets, air yards, and then no actual statin end-zone targets? In theory, Justin Herber was a great pick. Wait, I like that. Enzo targets, air yards, and targets and no actual real statistics count? Yeah. Hell yeah.

And it's points per carry. Quarterbacks don't get dinged for like tipped interceptions, not their fault. There's something. It's kind of like that. That'd be a funny league. If a guy gets tackled at the one, it's a touchdown. Mulligan. He should have gotten it.

Tap it in. He should have gotten it. Tap it. The touchdown Mulligan. You get it even if you get snipe. No, he would. Even if you get vultured, you still get the touchdown. Yeah. Because the coach is an idiot.

If it's like a 30-yard catch, you get tacked out of the one, no, he's in. And the guy who gets it, he didn't get the touchdown. If the coach is being annoying and platooning, so like all the Broncos, you just get all the Broncos receivers. Yeah, if like a player is used the whole drive and like Derek Henry gets all the yards, but then at the one they swap and keep Mitchell because Derek Henry's tired, Derek Henry still gets that. This sounds like this is like the justice. league. This sounds like the best thing I've ever heard of. It's funny that we burned AJ Brown when he'd like had like 50 yards and

seven catches. No, fuck that guy. No, I know. I'm so bad. I'm not even mad at it. Last week he had two catches and we were like, no. I'm not even that bad. That's by low.

You know what I'm so mad about, do you guys ever think about that they're literally the defending Super Bowl champions? Kind of doesn't get talked about enough in the context of the AJ Brown. And not only that, but that they had one of the most dominant Super Bowl performances of all time. And that they're just wet. I just, I don't know. It's like, pick your, like, I just can't believe he was loafing a route and actually should have caught a 40-yard pass at 3rd and 15. And he just wasn't running.

And I'm like, you're acting like you're on the fucking Jets. Yeah. Fucking Garrett Wilson's out here trying harder than you. Garrett Wilson. Oh my God. Ugh. All right. I think that's it.

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Next. Yeah. So thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you, Kallos. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Ron. Thank you, everyone for listening.

Thank you, Clark Hogback. Thank you, Milky. Private eye. Thank you, Lorne. Lord. Thank you. Weird Al Yankoff, Yankovic. Yankovic.

Nice. Colston Yankoff. I, Hyviz, did you like? Sounds like a fucking name from. Hyviz, did you like Weird Al as a kid? Like, ironically or actually? I feel, like for the music. I mean, I think it was all.

Yeah, I feel like it was all. Not for the jokes. I feel like there were some people. White and nerdy. Right and dirty is a song that's been forgotten. And white and nerdy was like a really funny thing. didn't know his whole shtick from the 90s. I was like,

oh, this guy's weird and funny. Yeah. Funny play. What's his biggest parody? Amish Paradise. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that one. And I think, I think Culeo was like really mad at him for making that, which is ironic because Culeo fucking sampled that song. Oh, really? Yeah, it's,

Mike McDonald's. Also, like, Coolio. Yeah, close. It's a sorry. Now I'm forgetting the blind guy that is really really good. Yes, Stevie Wonder.

The blind guy. I believe it's a Stevie Wonder song. Sorry. Yeah. The really good singer. He plays piano. Ironically, I can see him right now, but I can't think of his name.

He wears sunglasses all the time. I'm sorry. Does, does, so Coelio gets paid for a portion of Weird Al's sales for Amish Paradise, but then also Stevie Wonder gets. paid as well, right? I assume.

But both get paid, right? I assume. I don't know. I imagine. You would think. I mean, how mad can Coolio be is getting fucking paid for it? Well, that's the thing. I think that he thinks everyone's laughing at him, when in reality, they're laughing at

Weird Al. Eat it was a big one. Eat it? Instead of beat it. What's that one? The Michael Jackson? Instead of beat it. I feel like I never, like, saw that.

Because it was 10 years before I was born. Oh, you don't remember him, like, listing all the food? No. I never went back and listened to the discography of what he was mocking from, I don't know. No, I'm saying the song, Eat It. He, like, he just reads food, basically, the whole song. Does he really? Yeah.

That's pretty funny, actually. She'll listen to that. Eat it. Oh, that's good. I see now how he did that. Yeah, right. Anyway, I didn't see the movie where Daniel Ratcliffe plays him. Me neither.

I'm glad that Daniel Ratcliffe's okay. You know, I gotta say, the guy's made a career for himself more than a lot of people who get like really typecasted into just like the iconic character. He's, at least he had a pretty good career. I was worried about him.

Stage actor, like he's been in successful movies. Why were you worried about him? Because he's Harry Potter when he was like 11. Yeah, that's hard to like, you know. Like McCulley Colkin is in a band. I think he seems happy, you know? He's doing all right. You ever shadow his band out,

VDK? What's his band called? I don't know that. Text it to me later. I'll do it next time. I know if they fucking know. Don't leave people. It's called...

Is this right? The Pizza Underground. No comment. But they mainly parody songs by the Velvet Underground. With pizza theme song names and lyrics? What? It's hard to believe that hasn't caught on mainstream. With Collie Culkin Pizza?

band. So he has a velvet underground parody band. Correct. I thought it was like a weather underground. Parity. No, velvet underground. Wow. Is that the reference? Do you know what the weather underground is? Well, they were like a like a organization

terrorist. Now they're a website that tells you the weather or also back then maybe. Also. Oh, so velvet undergars. You know, it's funny. I do always forget velvet underground. It's a band. Not a band I know a ton of I don't know anything about them either actually I think that was a very specific fan group who really liked them

So how do you know that's what the reference did? Because Craig just said it Didn't you? Yeah I always confused the Kear and it I wish you would listen once in a while I always forget that McCulley Culkin And Kieran Culkin are not the same person

I mean they They do look alike No come on when you're watching Succession You thought that was McCauley Culkin Sometimes Really? I just kind of forget, I don't know, it just kind of bleeds together. You know, it's never happened for you.

I get that. Never once. I know McColley and I know Kieran. I just, dude, his shot in a Home Alone when they like, he just looks over and he's like holding the can of soda. I'll always remember that. You love Home Alone. The most iconic thing for him alone for me is when he slaps the aftershave on his cheeks. Yeah, that's McCulley.

Yeah. Wait, were you talking about Kieran? Yeah, Karen, when he's drinking all the soda and he looks up. He's in home alone as the little brother. Oh, I did not know. Wait, what? Karen Colkin is the littlest brother in the family. I did not know that.

I didn't know that either. What? Or maybe I just didn't remember it. Yeah, probably. Yeah. I thought you were talking about McCauley. I forget the line that. Like, he's drinking all the soda.

He's like fart in bed or something. And then he like looks over and smiles. So they're both. Wow. Yeah, this is why I confuse them. Because you know what confuses me is I always think. Oh, that is. Lohan is a twin and I always think that

like I always thought that because she was in Parent Trap? Yeah, because she was a twin in the moot but then in Full House the actress, the twins played the girl. The Olson twins. But I always think that there's one person and I forget about the other twin

and I always think Lindsay Loanne is a sister. They also have a sister who's very famous. Elizabeth Olson. Yeah. That's not her. That's a third sister. Mary Kate and Ashley are. And that's the other problem is that Mary Cade is two names.

So I always get the number of people in that family wrong. No, yeah, I get that. Two people with three names who played one person. Yeah. No, I get that actually. That's all, that's fair. Right. Mary Cade and Ashley.

Is the younger, the younger sister. Do you think anyone's still listening? Do you guys think you'll name any of your children, hyphenated first name? That's like one of the best scenes of Ted. is when they list off the white trashed female names. And Mark Wahlberg lists off like 50 in a row. And it's like one of the funnier scenes. It's like an all time.

It's an all time scene. Can you do it? You never seen Ted? You never seen Ted? That's really funny. Ted is like disappeared from the like the consciousness. But it was very funny when it came out and made a lot of money. Van always said.

He's like culturally expired. And there are certain things that just like culturally expired. expired and for some reason Ted is just like irrelevant but 100% I don't know why the whole like family guy I feel like family guy is so iconic

and everybody watches family guy and used to watch family guy but no one ever talks about family guy yeah I don't know why I don't have an answer for that either I watched a lot of family guy grown up oh every I mean yeah the fucking chicken fights with Peter

oh my god that was like a point in television that was a big deal going on Monday morning he'd be like dude they did a chicken fight 15 minute chicken fight crazy It's fucking wild Wow I didn't think we could

We could find something We could bore DK Yeah my God DK light up a joint Watch some family guy Oh my god I watched Family Guy You did?

Yeah You don't know the chicken fights? Not like all of it But Do you know the chicken fights? No I do know And this is like famous

But the just the comedic device Of doing something for so long That it's funny for a minute And then it gets not funny and then you keep doing it for so long that it gets funny again, like with the skinned knee. Yeah, that's kind of like

Will Ferrell really knows that. Like, Will Ferrell is the king of funny, not funny, funny again. Funny again, yeah. Go so long that it gets funny again. Like, kind of like this podcast right now. He's literally thinking, like, how we're going to end this show.

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