The Ringer NFL Show - Week 12 Waivers, Penix Out, Rodgers’s Wrist, and Rex’s Socks
Episode Date: November 18, 2025The guys discuss some of the biggest injury news from around the NFL and what it all means for fantasy. Then, SHOWDOWN TIME! Must-add players at each position ahead of Week 12. (00:00) Intro(01:59) Q...B Injuries(13:10) RB Waivers: Kenneth Gainwell, Emanuel Wilson, Sean Tucker(25:56) WR Waivers: Christian Watson, Luther Burden III, Michael Wilson(38:21) TE Waivers: AJ Barner, Mason Taylor, Colston Loveland(47:05) QB Waivers: Tyrod Taylor, Jacoby Brissett, Bryce Young(48:19) D/ST Waivers: Browns, Falcons, Jaguars(49:53) Emails Check out our 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com This episode is sponsored by Chime. Bank Smarter, Progress FartherFind your kitchen dreams at IKEA.us/dreamkitchen The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig HorlbeckProducers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the Ring of Fantasy football show.
My name is Danny Hyatton.
And I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck.
And we are going over all the must add players after week 11.
You got the scatibou.
Week 12. Week 12 waivers.
Let's cook.
Are you excited?
You guys pumped?
Big week.
A lot of injuries.
Quarterbacks are going down left and right.
It's crazy.
It's crazy out there.
Nothing like profiting off of professional injuries.
We are going to email your fantasy court issues, disputes, whatever.
We actually already have a few.
Sometimes they just litigate them.
really easy. I don't even take them with Doc, and I just kind of tell them the answer.
Just be like, no.
Anyway, keep healing me, reading your fantasy football.
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Emails for fantasy courts.
Emails, trivia questions.
We'll take it all.
Thank you for the ones you send in.
They're good.
We're going to get through.
All these injuries, all these waiver moves.
Some phenomenal emails.
Good trivia.
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Okay, starting off here, again, so many injuries.
I think we have to start with quarterback this week just because, frankly, there's a lot
of news.
Starting with Falcons quarterback Michael Pennix Jr. is going on injured reserve for the Falcons.
They're like, possibly season inning.
Seems super season ending.
Michael Pennock's already missed a game with the bone bruise early this year in his knee,
and now the same knee.
I mean, the Falcons official Twitter said, quote,
we are working through the medical process to determine the severity of the injury,
end quote, which not a great sign.
I mean, that's kind of all injuries you work through the medical process to figure out the severity.
So the problem is they don't know by now.
And Tom Pelliserro at NFL Network helpfully clarified that in case you're wondering,
this injury is to Michael Pennix Jr's left knee,
not his twice-reconstructed right knee,
which was a great reminder that Michael Pennix tore his ACL in his right knee in 2018,
retore the ACL in his right knee in 2020,
and now has a knee injury that they don't even know what the diagnosis is in his left knee.
So with that said, D.K., Michael Pennix is,
we're looking at a guy going into his third season as a starter.
He's played just 12 games in the NFL.
It's going to be 26 years old.
on his second, possibly his third ACL injury.
At what point do you feel like the Falcons
might have royally screwed things up here?
Is it too panicky for me to say
the Falcons using a top 10 pick in 2024,
giving away their pick in 2026?
Like, are you concerned from Netflix's career at this point
or am I being a nervous, Nancy?
No, I'm not necessarily concerned about his career,
but this is exactly what everybody was nervous about
when he was made a top 10 pick.
I remember, like, we talked about Michael Panx,
a lot in the pre-draft process before the draft.
And it was basically the question was always, where do you rate him as a prospect?
And then where do you rate him, where would you rate him as a prospect if he hadn't had
four injuries in five seasons or whatever the, whatever the exact number was?
And you can't separate the two because he did have those injuries.
And that's a huge part of the evaluation.
And now it's been a part of his NFL career.
He already missed games this year with a knee injury.
Now he's missing more games with a knee injury, probably the rest of the year.
I don't know what the official reports will be,
but it sounded like there is ACL damage.
So that is obviously really concerning.
So, yeah, I mean, if you look at what the Falcons have done,
they are one of the most highly,
they have the most buy-in at the quarterback position
in terms of $100 million contract for Kirk Cousins
and a top 10 pick, and they're a three-and-seven team,
and they're giving up their probably what's going to be
a top-10 first-round pick next year.
That's not part of their acquisition of those quarterbacks,
but that's just the state of the franchise.
So things are really not good right now for the Falcons.
As if it wasn't, could it get worse, Drake London, the receiver also has a PCL injury in his knee.
And if you're like, well, PCL, at least it's not an ACL, they're like, oh, maybe he'll play through it.
I was reminded this morning, Brock Bowers had a PCL injury in the first half of the season.
That's what he was trying to play through it when Brock Bowers sucked.
Ricky Pairsall had a PCL injury.
And that took a long time.
I think it's a stability issue is what I've heard.
It just doesn't, your knee does not feel stable.
And so it's very hard to do the football-type movements.
It's really a lot of cutting.
The thing where Drake London just out-jumps the cornerbacks,
who are the most athletic people in the world,
and he just kind of just puts them to shame.
You need a little stability for that.
So tough day for the Falcons.
Yeah, I don't know.
I feel like this is a team we just kind of beat up on,
but I don't know how to say anything other than, yeah,
it's giving up a top-10 pick,
and you're not even close to contending for the playoffs.
It's kind of a disaster.
But in terms of just for the rest of the season,
will keep competing.
There's no one, obviously, the teams always compete.
The front offices have incentives to kind of mess around and stuff.
But the Falcons don't have an incentive to do anything other than to compete because they
tone up their first round pick.
So in terms of the stick, I don't know, how good do you think her cousins can be for Atlanta
going forward?
He played the one game, kind of sucked, looked washed.
You said it.
I mean, I'm worried about this offense in general.
Yeah, Cousins has not looked, he doesn't move very well.
Obviously, that's been kind of an issue for him for the last year plus.
you know they don't have a lot of weapons outside of bejean robinson right now
Kyle Pitts has not been playing especially well uh especially well darnow mooney has been
a massive disappointment um you know who else do they have who are they going to go to
i'll tell you about david sills when we get to the receivers don't you're excited so falcons
are the word spot Craig your Steelers Aaron Rogers has a uh I like this phrasing uh brook fryer
had a good story he spent uh Rogers has a quote slight break in his
wrist. And I liked slight break because it reminded me of
the rest of development with like light treason.
Okay. Yeah.
A small crack.
Small crack. Small crack. So,
Rapaport at NFL Network
reported that Rogers was, quote,
pushing to play in the Steelers'
upcoming game.
Craig, how do you, one,
do you want Rogers with a broken non-throwing wrist or do you want
Mason Rudolph?
I still want Rogers.
I don't know what we're doing,
convincing ourselves that Mason Rudolph is the answer.
Like, we've seen him for long enough.
I know. We know.
This is the year.
Like, it's like he came in as a backup and he threw a couple of balls down the field and
everyone's like, I actually liked what Mason Rudolph was doing for the Steelers'
offense more than what Rogers was doing.
That was me.
Yeah, right.
I don't totally understand why Rogers can't play with the broken, like, left wrist.
It's like, isn't that what all the horse tranquilizers they have in the locker room
or four?
I kind of think he will play, to be honest.
And, like, the Steelers are still like, could,
could legitimately win the division, and they're playing the Bears this week.
And I would much still rather have 42-year-old Rogers,
with a half-broken left wrist than Mason Rudolph.
Oh, I didn't even think about that.
It's Rogers owning the Bears, and he would miss it.
It's probably his last Bears game.
Yeah.
Well, that was what I was going to say is, like, he, if he wasn't so close to retiring,
you probably would take a couple of weeks off, but I'm like, this is it,
Rand.
They've got to go to the playoffs.
He's only got a few games left.
He's just going to gut it out.
One last ride.
I'm with Craig.
Probably end up playing.
Like, don't we remember last year, Mason Rudolph,
was the starter for the Titans for eight games.
I don't remember that, actually.
He went one in 40 through nine touchdowns, nine picks.
Like, they weren't good.
He wasn't good.
Mason Rudolph is one of those careers where coaches talked themselves into it because he's,
I think he's a good backup quarterback and that he knows he's not the starter.
I think anyone who's been around that long is good at preparation, good at helping the starter.
And they're like, well, when he asks the play, he'll like do what we tell him to do and he'll do it roughly on time.
And then he actually has to play.
And you're like, oh, yeah, this is not an option.
Why Mike Tomlin loves him?
I have no idea.
He's like a big physical guy, but like he's just inaccurate and has no pocket presence.
Other than that, he's great.
The, a lot of quarterback stuff.
So C.J. Stroud, I just want to know, this one's going to get lost, but C.J. Stroud is still in concussion protocol.
And I wanted to flag this for people because Texans play on Thursday night football.
So I kind of think Davis Mills might get a third game here because Texans are playing the bills.
It's one of those.
I kind of just think the Texans would probably be wise to, to,
take the 10 days and give Stroud the extra 10 days to recover from the concussion.
So I think Davis Mills is going to play again against the bills Thursday in football.
2 and 0.
2 and 0 at Mills.
Tourback controversy?
Untefeated.
And then lastly, the Jets are benching Justin Fields, which I think is a huge deal for fantasy.
I don't think it matters at all for the Jets in real life.
Well, I mean, it does for the Jets.
It's not like that big for fantasy because who are you playing on the Jets regardless?
We'll get to that too.
Don't you worry.
Stay tuned.
Don't touch that dial.
Wow.
But I wanted to just, you know, take this moment to memorialize Justin Fields as this is the official death of Justin Fields, the concept of him being a starting quarterback in the NFL.
I think Justin Fields will now be one of the cooler backup quarterbacks you can have as in like perfect guy to come in for two drives and then just like run for 60 yards, have one completion.
And then you're like, oh, he's fun.
And then that's it.
But I think Fields, I really do think this is going to be, to me, one of the worst stress.
of a starting quarterback I can never remember purely in terms of passing the football.
And they literally take away the garbage time.
He was the single worst quarter, including J.G. McCarthy, anything,
Fields was the worst passer this year. It wasn't even close.
He had one of the longer stretches as a starting quarterback in his career for somebody who was
so poor passing the ball. I mean, he held on for a long time.
It's a bizarre tolerance for a guy that really struggled to hit 60 yards passing at four times.
And then one of the games he had 54, it was like he had a 40-yard screen.
Honestly, it goes to show how much rushing has, how important rushing has become and how much
you're willing to overlook because of somebody's ability with their legs.
It's, yeah, it's really strange.
So Terrell Taylor is going to play the Jets are playing the Ravens this week.
And Trout Taylor spent the first four years of his career with the Ravens.
So I just wanted to note that.
We can get to like, if that means anything for waivers.
There's also like Jackson Dart, we think is going to come back from his concussion.
Dylan Gabriel and the Browns is in concussion protocol.
We don't know if he'll be playing next week or not, if it's just to her san.
again.
Dart is still in the concussion protocol, isn't he?
I'm a little, I'm starting to worry that he might not play this week.
Yeah, it said the Giants were optimistic.
He'll be able to return next week.
I don't know, I don't know how, what that means.
They usually have to miss one game with the new concussion protocol.
So, I mean, obviously it depends.
Are you guys worried at all with Dart that?
Because there was a report I saw today that said the club is like talking to him about
very specifically about protecting himself and not running as a lot.
much and sliding and you have to do a lot better job.
Like, this is the reason we fired Table Hall.
You have to protect yourself.
So are you worried at all that his upside as a fantasy player is going to be dramatically
changed or if that's just all sort of like lip service and he'll be the same guy?
He won't be as, I don't think he will run as much or be as effective, but he was pretty
freaking good.
So, I mean, I think he's still going to be able to run into the goal line and stuff.
I don't know.
I think it's one of those you take 20% off the top.
Yeah.
I think, frankly, I guess maybe the,
now that I say it, the issue is maybe there's less garbage time contact.
I think if the Giants, like the Giants playing the Lions this week.
I think under Daibble Man, even if the Giants would have 20 to the lions,
I think they're running and running in.
Design runs should go down.
Yes, the Dart.
Design runs should go down for Dart.
Like, Dart's going to need to learn to slide.
But overall, you're still going to play him.
I think he's still going to rush.
But, yeah, anything I'm forgetting with all the, I mean,
there's so much quarterback news.
No, the only, like Jordan Love left the game,
came back last week with the shoulder injury,
but I think he's fine.
He just took a stupid hit.
And also,
Packersons were mad at me in the ranks,
because Jordan Love played well,
and I kind of made fun of him
because of Malik Willis coming in
with my intrusive thought.
But Jr.
And Jureenov just kind of took a stupid hit
on like first and 20
and gained like four yards
and took a real shot.
But he came back in the game
and played pretty well.
And Herbert was kind of pulled
because they were getting blown out.
So, okay.
And remind me,
what are the bye weeks next week?
Did you already say that?
Oh, yeah.
Sorry, the team's on by next week
are the Dolphins because they're coming back
from Germany.
Chargers because they're...
They're coming back from Florida.
Coming back from Florida, which is huge for them.
Washington also come back from Germany and Denver.
So those are the four teams on by.
And then, yeah, without further ado, we can get to running backs.
D.K., who is your number one running back?
You would add off waivers entering week 12 here.
This is a good week for running backs.
I'm going to say Emmanuel Sanders, sorry, Emmanuel Wilson for the Packers.
Emmanuel Sanders?
I mean, he was great.
The way backtrack.
The retired wide receiver?
Come on.
Yeah, I'm not adding him.
I don't know.
I don't feel strongly about this.
This is all depending on what Josh Jacobs does.
If Josh Jacobs misses time, which it's looking like he will, he's considered week to week within the injury.
They're saying he didn't suffer a long-term season-ending injury, but my guess is he'll probably won't play this next week, which means you're getting the starter in Emmanuel Wilson on a team that likes to be balanced, likes to run the ball.
And I thought he's looked pretty good, honestly, when he's gotten opportunities.
they get Minnesota and then at past that it's at Detroit, Chicago, and at Denver.
So they got some tough defenses coming up.
But he's like a clear-cut starter, whereas a lot of the other guys are sort of in committees right now.
So I guess I would just go with him out of the confidence that he will be the lead guy if Josh Jacobs doesn't play.
I think if I could, it's Monday we're recording.
You have until Tuesday night to submit your waivers, obviously.
I think if I knew that Jalen Warren was maybe not going to play, I'm taking.
can Kenneth Gainwell, even if Josh Jacobs is out.
Because...
I agree with that.
Minnesota has been really, really good lately,
and I almost just think the Packers just going to throw the ball more
and maybe split a little bit with Wilson and Brooks or whatever.
But, like, I don't know.
Emmanuel Wilson played well.
He played 70% of the Staps.
He looked fine.
But Kenneth Gainwell, to me, is much more reliable,
really good in the passing game.
Passing game is a big thing.
We've seen it multiple times this year.
He had 80 receiving yards after.
Warren went out yesterday.
So I think, like, if I wait 24 hours and it looks like Jalen Warren, who has an ankle
injury, he's not going to play, even though he said he could have returned, but he looked
pretty hurt.
I would take Gainwell.
However, if we know that Warren is playing, I would take Emmanuel Wilson.
Agree.
This is a good week in that there's a lot of options and players that could help you this week
and also down the line.
It's also a bad week for us to make definitive thoughts on Monday because I agree with
what Craig's saying, where this week, if Jalen Warren is going to miss this game, that Kenneth
Gainwell is a better option. But also, we don't know if Aaron Rogers is even going to be the
quarterback for the Steelers this week or it's Mason-Rudolph. And I don't know if I want Kenneth Gainwell,
if Jalen's kind of limping around, but he's there and Masonville's the quarterback, but
Rogers playing would make Kenneth Gainwell great. But then to D.K.'s point, like if Josh Jacobs
misses the game, even with the Vikings run defensive, Emmanuel Wilson's probably going to get a lot
of run. So it really, frankly, we're recording this Monday afternoon. It matters a lot, the news that
comes out over Tuesday as well.
And it matters.
I think people,
I think that there are more answers based on what you need.
I will also,
again,
make the distinction of,
are you just kind of surviving a day at a time
and trying to make the playoffs?
Or are you kind of making the playoffs
and need someone for the longer run?
Which,
to me, changes my answer.
Because we even mentioned Sean Tucker
for the Buccaneers,
who had 140 scrimmage yards
and three touchdowns.
He's also hard to figure out
because Sean,
because Buck Irving came back to practice last week.
That's the thing.
So on one hand,
Sean Tucker won't do that again
because the Rams defense is
better than Bill's stopping the run.
Buck Irving coming back.
But also, I think Sean Tucker played so well that I think
Buck Irving coming off two different injuries that kept him out like almost two months.
I think Buck Irving's taking up the mantle here and getting the workload.
We were thinking about it getting him and getting last year.
I don't think it's going to look like that to start.
It might not look like that the rest of the year because if he's so banged up that
they thought it'd be two weeks and it took six.
Why are you going to give Buck Irving 30 touches to start?
So Sean Tucker is someone that could have a role all.
I think this week, I wouldn't be shocked at all.
Sean Tucker was still kind of the leadback.
And also, honestly, if he didn't get hurt at the end of the game,
I was going to pick facial tooting for the Jaguars.
I know.
He had seen the best game of his career.
Like 15 carries, 74 years of touchdown.
He looked sick.
And then he tweaked his ankle.
And we don't totally know what's up with him either.
So there's a lot of options.
Clear is mud here.
Who do we want to go with for this?
Because we talked it through.
I think everybody knows that's listening.
You just kind of have to watch the news a little bit on Tuesday
before you put in your waiver claims.
But who do we want to actually officially do the showdown for here?
Should we look at it as next year?
alone next week alone.
Like, who do you want in week 12?
If you can only, if you only need a guy for one week because of a buy, who do you want?
I kind of think Gainwell, actually.
I'm kind of changing my mind, Craig, because I think you're right that Jalen Warren was hurt
enough that Gainwell probably be the lead guy.
He tried to go back to the game and the Steelers called the timeout.
They're going against a bad defense.
So I guess I'll change my answer to Gainwell.
Gainwell, even when he was on the Eagles, they did, he, for a smaller back, always got
a weird amount of goal line work.
So I think that playing the Bears, I think I agree that Kenneth Gainwell's probably the right answer.
Yeah, at least for week 12.
All right.
Dude, Emmanuel Wilson, do you guys, so he's an undrafted guy.
He's like 26 years old.
DK., as our draft guru.
I guess maybe you're not expected to know where he went because he literally didn't get drafted.
And you're not the undrafted guru.
I'll give you guys anything you want if you can tell me the two colleges that Emmanuel Wilson attended.
Is he like a D2 guy?
I'm assuming these are D2.
Chattanooga.
I've never heard of either of these schools.
Southern Utah.
Good guess.
Mid-east, North State.
So I'll say the second school first because the first school is crazy.
The second school he went to is Fort Valley State.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You're familiar with that?
I've heard of that, yeah.
Okay, the first school he went to is just called Johnson Smith.
What?
Is that like a C.C. or something?
Smith College.
Wow. Okay. Yeah. Fort Valley State. Now a start in the NFL. Pretty crazy. All right. Well,
yeah, all I know is I've seen Wilson over the years. I think the last couple of, the last two years,
he's like made spot appearances for the Packers. And I've always been pretty impressed with them.
Johnson C. Smith is an HBCU in Charlotte. Fort Valley State is in Georgia. Tennessee. Oh, Georgia.
Okay. So. They're the Golden Bulls, which is pretty sick.
Golden bowls or bowls?
Bulls.
Bowls?
Bowls or bulls?
Are you saying Pam?
Are you saying B.
There's two M's?
B-O-W-L or B-U-L-L-L.
The Golden Bulls.
Did you guys get my Pam joke or no?
I did.
Okay, good.
We have a lot of misproniation stuff at the end, too.
Anyway.
There's how long as they go, oh, there's two M's.
No, there's just one M.
That makes it fucking.
Also, just to clarify again, if Josh Jacobs had been out for like a month,
Emmanuel Wilson would be so easily, the number one guy here.
But the fact that Josh Jacobs seems like he'll miss one game against an incredible run
defense and be back kind of is the reason.
Like if Josh Jacobs is out for longer, right?
We would all have Emmanuel Wilson way higher.
I think that's right.
Because it's a time.
The long term stuff is certainly more than, it's like a tiebreaker, probably a little more.
Yeah, I agree.
But with that said, sure, we can do the Kenneth Gainwell.
All right.
It's time for the Kenny Gaines showdown time.
All right.
Give me something good.
Hi Fitz.
Give me something good.
So we asked for science trivia.
Oh,
did we?
Did we?
Did we?
Did we?
Well, you did.
I did.
I want trivia about...
Triff?
I don't want science.
I asked for some science trivia.
We've established where the dumbest people alive.
I want to guess how many peanuts are in a Snickers bar.
That's what I want.
All right.
Well, someone's done that.
But this was my favorite because I was like, make it science, make it in English.
And this was my favorite one.
Okay.
This is from Sean.
Espo.
What is the storage capacity of the human brain?
Okay.
What is the metric we're looking for here?
Gigabytes.
You said this was supposed to be in English.
Gigabytes?
Like, if you're, it was like, you know, you got a hard drive here.
You got it like, you've had story.
How many gigabytes is like the human?
I love this question.
So it's gigabytes and not terabytes?
I don't know.
I'm just, it's in bytes.
I don't know.
Do we know?
Do we know?
Is this a quantifiable answer that we know?
I don't know, but the fact that he wrote it is incredible.
Craig, the answer's not.
I was blown away.
We fucking made it up.
Okay, you're running out of memory.
We could, we could, we could, we could, I know how many of memory.
I'm fucking operate.
I'm on like an operating system from like 08.
DK's like a 2016 iPhone.
It's like, you can upgrade to 64.
I haven't updated anything in six years because I don't want all the fucking stuff that slows you down.
I learned on the last work trip when DK wakes up in the morning that he actually makes the dial up sound.
Like from AOL.
Like that's actually what it's going to be able.
A thousand gigabytes?
I don't know.
I think so.
That makes sense.
No.
Well, yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
Got it.
Okay.
This, I don't know the answer to this.
Yeah, no shit.
All right.
Three, two, one.
100,000 terabytes.
What'd you say?
Said 10,000 gigabytes.
Okay.
I said 100 terabytes, I think.
I thought we had to answer in gigabytes.
Wait, what did I say?
Fuck, I don't remember.
My RAM is low.
You don't remember what you just said?
You're right.
I think DK's capacity.
It was either 100 or 1,000.
DKs just needs to start deleting stuff in his brain.
Carlos, did you hear what I said?
10,000 gigabytes feels low now.
Damn it.
Well, I think I want.
It's 3 million gigabytes.
Oh!
So I'm pretty sure I want.
Not me.
My brain caps at 10,000.
D.K. was probably right. Yeah, I know.
How much did you say, Hyvitz?
I said 10,000 terabytes.
Okay. So...
I thought we had to answer in gigabytes, so I was anchored to that.
Three million gigabytes is 3,000 terabytes.
So that's...
This complicates things.
What?
Right? Because I said either 100 or 1,000, I don't remember.
I think the fact you don't remember disqualifies you.
That's fine. I'll get second place.
Anyway, I'm going to take Kenneth Gainwell
Yeah, so good, I didn't want him
I'll take Emmanuel Wilson
I'll take Sean Tucker, great
We all came away heavy
I do think it's a tier of three guys
Gainwell Tucker and Wilson I think are and then it's like
You get into Devin Singletary Chris Rodriguez
Ollie Gordon guys like that
I'd probably take Bachel Tutin over all those guys
In case he's healthy and comes back in a week or two
Well I guess I would say Kenneth Gainwell
first, sorry, Emmanuel Wilson's the second.
Sean Tucker third.
That's what I'm doing.
Toot and fourth.
And then if you need it for a week, Bam Knight and the Cardinals,
like he might be the best option, honestly, just for straight week 12.
Like, there's a chance he outscored because Trey Benson might not come back this week.
But then Amara Demarcato for the Cardinals, another guy we don't know the deal with.
If Amara DeMarcato misses time, then it's like Bam Knight clearly seems like the lead back
for the Cardinals for at least more and more week.
Chris Rodriguez Jr., this is where it gets a little more gross.
But like Chris Rodriguez Jr., or no, sorry, the Washington's on by.
but I do think when he comes back, Chris Rodriguez will be the starter for Washington.
Right.
So if you're planning for the future, but you're also desperate, Chris Rodriguez is probably the worst started running back that's available at your league is Chris Rodriguez Jr.
Imperfect, but if you need someone for the stretch.
Jaliel McLaughlin, same thing.
I feel like he's just going to get touches for the Broncos.
They're on by.
They can come back, but those are like truly desperate.
Did you mention Devin Singletary?
Yeah, Devin Singletary, same thing.
He's like going to get goal line touches for a Giants offense.
That's kind of disgusting.
So he won't do the 17 points he just got you this week.
But those are like gross options.
But there's a clear top tier here of Tute and Tucker.
And obviously, I think we'd take over all these guys, Tyler Alger and Blake Quorum,
if they're available in your leagues.
I think we would take over all those guys.
Not next week.
Not next week, but the combo of I would take Alger over all these guys because I think
Alger is as likely to score a touchdown as anybody we're talking about.
But if Bejohn goes down, Alger is straight up a top eight running back.
Remember how we were talking about how Alger was getting all the goal line?
work well. Maybe they heard us talking because it was Bijon this week that got all of it.
And then Bijan just had like the coolest touchdown.
Bejohn's entire skill set was in like the one second where he just kind of like
juke to guy, trucked a guy, contact balance and then accelerated away from everyone.
Okay.
Wide receivers.
I think if Alec Pierce is available in your league for the cults, just get him.
I think we would take Alec Pierce over anyone we're about to talk about.
So for whatever reason.
Yeah, coming off the buy, he's like,
almost 50% rostered.
But yeah.
If for whatever reason,
Alex Pierce is available,
we would certainly take him.
But with assuming that he's taken,
DK,
who's your number one receiver?
Christian Watson for the Packers,
34% rostered on Yahoo.
Just an explosive play waiting to happen.
I think he's a high variance guy.
He's kind of like in the same vein as Alec Pierce,
where he might not get a ton of targets,
but he turns his targets into a lot of yards
because he's deep down the field.
So I'll go with Christian Watson.
The Packers offense is still really banged up.
There's a lot of injuries.
the receiver in tight-end position.
And yeah, I think he's a good player.
I mean, if, again, I guess it's expected that Marvin Harrison Jr. is back from his appendectomy
next week.
If he's not, I would take Michael Wilson 100%.
But I guess if Marvin Harrison Jr. is back, I agree that I would take Christian Watson.
I would take Watson. I'm down with Watson. I mean, Michael Wilson, the fakeest numbers at 15.
catches for 185 yards last week.
That's crazy.
It's funny because he is like the number one receipt.
I mean, he does look better than Marvin,
but also the cardals are down by so much,
but maybe that's just kind of their kink.
So maybe it'll keep, you know, going to that way.
Brissette legitimately set an NFL record
for most completions in a game.
So it's kind of wide.
That's not going to happen every week, probably.
What if he just has more completions this week?
But, D.K., if Marvin Harrison Jr. is out,
would you still want Christian Watson against Minnesota or Michael Wilson
against the Jackson?
No, I think I agree with you.
that if Marvin Harrison misses another week,
which means you should probably take Michael Wilson
just in case, put them on your waivers.
If they're both there, I would take Watson
because I do think Watson's probably better rest of the season,
and it's one of those, it's like the running backs.
It's like if it's a coin toss between Watson or Wilson,
to me the tiebreaker is just Christian Watson
is like the best team, the best receiver on Green Bay this year.
He just doesn't get a lot of work.
I mean, he has yet to have more than five targets in a game this year.
That's the only tough thing.
That's true.
He's boom buffs,
but to me, he's just a difference player,
difference maker,
and I've just been shocked him as Jews.
Christian Watson has,
again, like the end zone.
It's just,
Packers don't have a lot of their end zone guys.
Josh Jacob was baked up.
Jaden Reed is really one of their end zone guys
and he hasn't been there all season.
He might be coming back around Thanksgiving,
but Christian Watson just to me is clearly their explosive play guy,
kind of becoming a third down option,
and then also just he's the guy in the end zone that I think Jordan Love's going to play.
And again,
Jordan Love did actually end up playing really well last week.
I don't I made fun of him,
but I think Watson,
I think I would pick Watson.
Get a lot of people yelling at you?
I did.
On what? Like on blue sky?
No.
Email? Or real life? Okay.
On the street.
As you were walking to get your bagel this morning, somebody screamed at you?
Yes.
Seems like you touched an nerve.
I know. What the fuck?
So we're doing Watson or Wilson's going on here?
Let's do Watson, right?
I feel like because the Wilson is dependent on Marvin Harrison Jr.
And Watson's probably the better option long term.
Yeah.
All right, let's do it.
It is the Christian Watson.
Showdown time.
So I should say,
Hydez is pulling away here a little bit in trivia.
He has 12 wins.
DK.K. has eight. Craig has nine.
Craig is me.
What are we doing? Is the loser going to have to raw dog?
Craig did the thing where he said the people who are losing first again.
Does the loser have to roll dog to flight again? What are we doing here?
Well, it's in San Francisco. So it's like a 40-minute flight.
I don't know, from L.A.
For you?
I ain't doing that again.
It's when we're all together, so it'll be on the way back.
D.K.
to L.A.
You won't do it again?
Just don't lose.
I'll do it.
For 45 minutes?
Are you going to be just alone flying back to your home?
And again, for D.K., that's not bad.
It's like an hour and a half flight.
It only sucks for you.
I will have raw dog the 45-minute flight from Ceres go to L.A.
We should do a raw dog drive.
I like that.
DK. has to say, in the far back scene.
Yeah.
No phone.
Yeah.
Bird.
It's going to be singing.
We need this.
Yeah.
Email so rigger fantasy football.
You guys want to hear the most annoying sound in the world?
Dude, that guy was in it popped up in a movie we just, we're doing in the rewatchables.
I think the movie that's coming out tonight.
I guess I can't spoil that.
I don't know.
Oh, no, Bill tweeted it.
Snake eyes.
Oh.
Wait, no, we already did snake.
Just kidding.
That came out last week.
I don't know where I am.
Yeah, that guy's in snake eyes.
That was kind of cool.
I was like, dumb and dumber guy.
The villain guy?
Yeah, the definition of a Joey pants when you just go,
the dumb and dumber guy.
Yeah.
He knows.
That's been your fantasy
for punishment for the last place of trivia.
Okay.
This trivia question for Christian Watson's from Taylor.
T-bone.
T-T-T-T-T.
Did we do the gong?
We did.
Yeah, we gonged.
We talked for so long.
I forgot about the gong.
From Taylor.
The penny has been discontinued.
Right.
How many pennies are estimated to be in circulation?
Is that right?
Yeah.
Last week, great.
The penny last week.
Penny, the penny's done?
Penny's done.
We're just not, we're going to make them anymore.
We're not making a penny.
No more pennies.
Stop throwing your pennies in the fucking fountain.
Wow.
So Taylor asked, how many pennies are estimated to be in circulation right now?
Holy shit.
This one hurt my brain.
I felt physically uncarned.
Like, it actually hurt my brain.
Three, two, one.
$10 million.
You said how many?
Probably way too high.
I said $10 trillion.
10 trillion pennies?
I don't know.
On earth?
I don't know.
I was guessing high.
10,
1,000 terabytes.
Maybe.
I don't know,
because I said 60 billion.
You know what I ended up doing?
I read this and I was like,
how many pennies do I have?
And I started thinking about all the pennies of my life.
Because I still have a piggy bang for when I was a kid,
somewhere in my childhood bedroom.
I was like,
that thing's got like fucking hundreds.
I don't,
I don't really know like what a trillion dollars.
Like I don't even know.
Like what I can't con,
I have no conception of a trillion.
That's a lot.
I know.
That's too many.
I'm like, how many fucking trillions of dollars is the United States in debt?
It's a lot of pennies.
All right.
So how many pennies are there?
I'm comfortable guessing too high.
Seems like there's going to be a lot of pennies.
It's probably a lot of pennies.
Wow.
The answer, Taylor wrote 300 million and then was like, oh, sorry, correction.
A 300 billion.
$300 billion?
So Hyfitz wins.
300 million I would have won.
Damn it.
That's crazy.
300 billion pennies.
It's kind of like a little freaky that that exists.
All right.
So Hyphitz gets Christian Watson.
Who's closer?
Me or D.K.?
Me, right?
Thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
By a lot probably.
This is $9 trillion off.
I will take Michael Wilson.
Is that it?
So I get Christian Watson.
You get...
Actually, you know what?
Fuck it.
Michael Wilson's not good.
He's had one good game in his...
I'm taking...
I want to take Luther Burden.
I just want it.
Craig, get on.
Come on, man.
You've been doing this all year.
Yeah, you've got to have him.
You got to have him.
I don't care.
I want Luther Burden this week
took over the third ride receiver role.
He basically took over the slot roll
from Alameda Zakias.
And he's now the slot guy for the Bears.
And I just think he's really good.
Every time I watch Luther Burden,
I'm like, this guy's going to be a thing.
And so I want Luther Burton.
Okay.
All right.
Are there other people you would want to talk about D.
Okay.
for receiver. Those people aren't even available.
So Andre Yoshavos for the Bengals, because Jamar Chase is probably getting suspended.
Well, he did get suspended. He's appealing the suspension. So we'll see what that happens.
But there's pretty clear evidence of him just hawking a luggy on his friend there.
I think if he's out, they're still going to pass a lot. The Bengals are, you know, and T. Higgins moves up to be like a really highly ranked guy this week.
and then I think Yosovash, Yoshivash will be up there.
Is Darno Mooney on your radar at all with no Drake London?
Absolutely not.
I'm out on Mooney.
As you guys have noticed, I'm like the one person who's noticed Darno Mooney
has been really annoying this year.
I know you want to put him in the burn book, but he's been, like, no one's playing him.
Well, it's because like during the off season, I was all excited about Darno Moody.
And then he just like got hurt early in the year.
And ever since he's back, he's had like a 30% target rate and caught like five passes.
I know he really does not catch any of the balls that are thrown.
Yeah, that's the problem, man.
He doesn't catch any of throws.
I would not do Darnel Mone for two reasons.
One, three injuries this year because Darnal Mone also got hurt in this game.
Because Darnel Mone, one, had a collarbone.
I think it broke his collar boat at August.
And then he had hamstring injury.
And now he's a rib injury and he left this game in Atlanta, too.
Number one.
Number two, we have a game this year where Kirk Cousins played with Darnel Mone and without
Drake London.
And Darnel Munei caught.
one catch for 11 yards.
So I'm out on Darnal Mooney.
Although if you're in a really, really, really, really, really deep league, I want to give you a deep cut here, which is David Sills for the Falcons.
I'm not even saying you should add the fourth.
The fourth, if you're even in anywhere near a normal size league.
But if you're like in a sicko league and a lot of these recommendations, like you're like these people are taking, I just want to shout out David Sills because.
One, weird life, accepted a scholarship to play quarterback for Lane Kiffin at USC when he was 13 years old.
Shout out Josh Kendall at The Athletic is a good story about David Sills from August.
And then David Sills went to West Virginia, became a receiver.
Was a New York Giants practice squad preseason legend.
Giants fans were crushed when David Sills was cut.
He's like classic white slot receiver, Jim Rat, like not that physically.
Coach's son.
Yeah, just like classic.
Here's the key point.
David Kirk Cousins moved
his locker
this year and his locker has been next to David
Sills all year
and I just think that Kirk
if he's going to complete any passes
is going to complete the passes to David Sills
and that that is actually the relationship
that could get better through the course of the season
this is insane and even if you're in a 14 team
league that might be too deep
but I want to just shout out David Sills
All right
so past that Matt Collins
until Kishon Boutty comes back he's still
just going to continue to get volume for some reason.
Jaden Higgins for the Texans is kind of taken over at the number two role in that passing game.
David,
or Davis Mills has actually been pretty playable in terms of like he's making the guys on the fantasy guys on that roster pretty good so far.
John Mechie for the Jets,
if they actually can throw the ball to receivers and complete passes could be a sleeper for,
again, this is more like sick of like 16 team leagues, 14 team leagues.
and then Tyrell Shavers for the bills
who kind of took over for Keon Coleman
is like a just keep an eye on him.
The person in between those two groups
because we just listed a lot of people
that might be roster,
a lot of people that are unrosterable.
The person in the middle,
I think, is Dika,
your beloved Pop Douglas,
DeMario Douglas of the Patriots,
solely because Keisham Booty is still banged up,
but also the Patriots are playing the Bengals
and it's just kind of a bet on good offense,
good quarterback team that allows a lot of yards and points.
And if you actually do need someone
to just like fill in for this week.
I think Pop Douglas really fits the bill as someone who will be on the field for a team
that is getting first down to points.
So that to me is like a good feeling.
Okay.
Anyone else?
Tight ends?
Tight ends.
I took Michael Wilson there, by the way.
I don't know if we explicitly said that.
Okay.
Craig, who you're below.
So you get Luther Bird and D.K. gets Michael Wilson.
Okay.
Christian Watson.
Okay.
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Tight ends.
This one I'm curious.
So are we including Jo-Wan Johnson here for the Saints?
See, he's rostered 46% in Yahoo, 35% at ESPN.
I think he's borderline.
I think we can use it.
I think we can utilize him here.
I don't know why we wouldn't.
There's a lot of, I feel like there's going to be people that need to stream tight ends this week.
I feel like he's clearly the first guy, right?
Would we all agree on Juan Johnson?
It's like, if he's available, like, he's definitely number one.
I think so, yes, two touchdowns in his last two games, Rashid Shaheed is now gone.
They're playing Atlanta, then Miami.
I think we can just agree on him.
I think if Juan's available, like, there's no controversy there.
Like he's basically like right there with the lobby as the one B in the offense.
Yeah.
So I think we can just like agree.
If Juan Johnson's available in a tight end, like that's your best option.
So if he was gone, D.K.,
who would you pick as your number one tight end to stream for this week?
Hyfitz has been hyping this guy up lately.
A.J.
Barner for the Seahawks had 11 targets in this game against the Rams.
I don't think that's going to happen every game.
He's going to be a volatile option, but all these tight ends are pretty volatile in terms of targets
and target rate.
But man, the Seahawks just keep finding ways to get A.J. Barner the ball.
Like, whether it's in the red zone, whether it's on, they use him for their tush pushes.
So he has the option of potentially being in there in the red zone.
And now he had 11 targets in this last game.
Like he was a big part of their passing game.
So I guess I'll just go AJ Barner.
He, again, he's like, it wouldn't be that surprising if he gets like one target,
but he's also, you know, scored a bunch of points this year in fantasy,
just because they love to use them in the red zone around the goal line.
So I guess I'll go AJ Barner.
The other options would be Colson Leveland for the,
the Bears who's still out there in some leagues.
Colquemetz back now and they're rotating, so I don't love that.
Mason Taylor for the Jets is another sort of sleeper option,
just because if Tyra Taylor can complete passes,
that's going to change the Jets offense,
at least from fantasy point of view.
And then Craig's boy, darn out Washington.
Big D.
Who's been actually pretty good lately.
He has.
I think I agree, D.K., I think it's A.J. Barner.
As much as I like Loveland and I think the Bears' offense can continue to get better,
like Loveland is averaging three catches per game when combat is playing.
Yeah.
And that's kind of, they basically split snaps.
So I don't think you can pick him.
Barner, the touch push thing is kind of nice.
Like that's a nice little added bonus that they use him in that way.
But I do, like, I think if I, if I lose this trivia, like Mason Taylor with Tyrod Taylor,
the Jets receivers are brutal, man.
A.D. Mitchell, John Mechie, Isaiah Williams, Tyler Johnson, Aaron Smith.
I know.
These guys are brand new players.
And I do think Mason Taylor's good.
although I don't really want to be to touch the J. Barner to me is like
he can kind of disappear in moments but he has big spike weeks he gets the
tush push carry he's on a good team I would go AJ Burner I would I agree with what
you guys are saying I actually would even consider I kind of wonder if Mason Taylor is the
number one guy for me this week I actually I guess we can go with AJ Barners the
number one because at the end of the day it's the Seahawks offense is just so much better
and yeah the Titans the touchdowns I know Donald did play well against the rims
but yeah we can go AJ Barner
Like, I just wouldn't be, like, would you be so proud of Donald throws five touchdowns this week?
No, not at all.
But to be clear.
Might throw zero.
I think Mason Taylor is right there, though, because the Jets, to D.K.'s point about
John Metchie.
I don't love John Metchie for picking up a receiver because I don't think the Jets' offense is going to do a lot.
But I think Mason Taylor will be like the number one receiver on this team in terms of targets and catches for the rest of the season.
But the bar at what is acceptable at tight end is so much lower than receiver that Mason, I think Mason Taylor might get like, I think he might get like 10 targets.
the game for the Jets going forward to Rod Taylor.
The Jets' offense was unusable with Justin Fields.
But I think it's a good example of just, it's not good.
His impact probably won't be captured immediately.
So I think he's like a huge value this week.
So I think that Barner and Taylor are the top two.
And then there's a big drop.
But I agree.
All right.
You want to do Barner then?
Yeah.
All right.
It is the A.J. Barner, D.K.'s guy.
Showdown time.
Remember when I used to put the hands up?
OG days back when we were off video.
I used to just throw my hands up and wiggle them back and forth
to make D.K. laugh like I was his son.
Trying to get his attention.
It worked.
Bring it back.
We'll see.
All right. This one, this one's from Rex.
Rex.
Rex. The king.
Actually, there's no way that's right.
Arbone.
Yeah, wrong.
But it's okay.
I think of Toy Story.
rexed.
You guys see the new toy story?
I lied.
It's from Jake.
Jake.
There's no Jaybo.
I don't think.
So this is because I had my sock crash out the other day, but with socks to wear.
Right.
Rex.
No, I think you get it wrong.
Sorry.
Jake writes, as of May 30th, 225.
Who is this Rex?
Because.
Get there.
Who is Rex?
Now I need to know.
Well, I'll tell you who.
The Guinness World Record holder for the number of pairs of socks owned is Rex, Jerome,
Pumphrey the second of Monroe, Georgia.
Whoa.
Wow, that's quite the name.
Rex Jerome Pumphrey, owns the most pairs of socks.
All caps, pairs, pairs.
Not how many socks, how many pairs of socks?
How many pairs of socks does the world,
get its world record holder of socks?
100 trillion.
So, D.K., because of pairs of socks,
that means you have to double it
to know the actual number of socks.
Wait, what are we, are we guessing?
We're actually guessing the number of socks or the number of pairs.
No, pairs. We're guessing pairs.
I was being an idiot.
pairs.
I was being a jerk.
All right.
How many pairs of socks does Rex own this little freak?
Three, two, one.
$10,000?
$25,000.
Ooh.
I said $15,000.
Would you say, DK?
I said $10,000.
I'm finally low on one.
Craig said $25.
$10,000, $50,000.
Yeah.
We're all pretty close on our guesses.
I'm surprised.
The answer is, where's the answer?
1,165.
I could beat that.
I'm pretty close.
There's no way that's the most socks anyone owns.
Give me a week.
I bet you like Justin Bieber owns more than that right now.
Dude, Floyd Mayweather would like never wear multiple pairs of whatever, throw them out.
Here's the thing, Craig.
Here's the problem with your logic here.
You think he's keeping all those socks?
He's throwing them away after one wear.
Maybe that's right.
He goes through a thousand socks a year.
It's weird.
How many?
I feel like there's, I feel like one of us might have like 80 pairs of socks.
How many pairs of socks do you guys on?
I don't.
right now probably like
50 or something
yeah
between like
dress socks
regular socks
hold on hold on I just realized something
do you know we could so easily
just take the Guinness World Record for this
do you know how easy it would be to just take
just get 1,200 pairs of socks
Can we just get people to donate socks to us
so we can get in the Guinness Booker World Records?
It's like yeah we do a clothing drive
but for ourselves
but then we'll donate them
and then we'll donate them
yeah
holy shirts and socks
We could totally take this Guinness World Record.
It's so doable.
Wait a minute.
An older Guinness record mentions a woman in Missouri with over 10,000 pairs of socks.
Oh, guess who was right on the number?
You mean, you went either way, but...
Did she, like, pass and then did the kids sell the sock collection?
How did she lose that auctioned off for socks?
They divided it up.
Rex's passion for socks started on his wedding day.
quote they weren't merely accessories they were conversation starters little pieces of art hidden
beneath my shoes and a surprising source of joy it just doesn't feel like that many socks
i know 1100 it's not it's weird that like our i feel like my dad has like a hundred and it's weird
that my dad is there's probably 10% of the way out there living in squalor with like boxes and boxes
of socks yeah i think that's right that's right this is this that's really
Strange. Anyway, okay, I don't, who came in first?
D.K. You get A.G. Barner, Craig.
No, I got last. Oh, okay. So that I get Mason Taylor and then you have to pick a third
guy. Yuck. Give me Colston Loveland.
And then Dalton Schultz is the only guy we didn't mention the Texans.
Yeah, he would be, I think I would take him above those guys. He was a little bit higher
rostered, so I left him off my list. Dalton Schultz is available, yeah, he might not be.
He's there. Also, Britt and Strange is coming off I are. I don't know if I'd
I'm the first game back, but it'll be back at some point.
And Darren Waller, maybe you'll come back, but those are people you can stash if they're available.
Yeah, okay.
Shout out Rex and his socks.
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So, starting with, if you need to stream a quarterback where you're storm with the Jets,
I think Tharad Taylor is perfectly fine.
like it's the Raven so I don't really love that
but like if you really do down in the dumps need a quarterback
I think Trad Taylor is probably going to move the offense better
it's probably not the best thing that you're ever going to do
but he is like available
Bryce Young want to see how is it like he also
was banged up and he did have what was the number of DK
448 yards I believe
that's just unbelievable which is incredible
but the number one guy is probably Jacoby Preset
because of the whole you know 40 NFL record
completions in a single game thing so I think
Jacoby Preset's been great Jacoby Preset Bryce
Young, Terod Taylor.
And no matter what happens on Monday football tonight,
not Geno Smith, not Geno Smith, not Geno Smith,
because he's going from Dallas to Denver.
So just it doesn't matter, right?
Yes, they're going back to Denver next week.
Sorry, no, Cleveland, sorry.
Different Orange team in my head.
They're playing the Browns, and the Browns are top 5D
and the Dallas is bottom 5D,
so I don't care what Geno Smith does in a minute of football.
I would not play him against Cleveland.
So, but yeah, Tarad Taylor,
Bruching, Brissette.
And for defenses this week,
if you got a stream,
it's a tough week to stream.
I think a lot of the better defenses
are getting to be rostered.
Cleveland right now is a nice one
because they just played the Ravens
so a lot of people probably weren't starting them
and now they're playing Vegas.
I think the Browns are,
if they're, I would do,
I would highly recommend getting
the Brown's defense if they're available.
Again, Miles Gere is going to break
the sack record this year.
Like he just,
they might have the defensive rookie of the year
and the defensive player of the year
and going to win two games,
but I would do the Brown's date.
Falcons defense,
if they're still available,
might get cut.
They're playing the Saints this week.
know they didn't do great versus Carolina, but I still think the Falcons teams like probably better.
Jaguars, weird turnover-based defense, but they've got the Cardinals, then the Titans, the next couple
weeks.
Is there any world in which you would fathom starting Vegas playing?
I was going to ask you the exact question.
If Shador Sanders plays, would you start the Raiders defense against the Browns?
Oh, oh, my.
Oh, that's a, wow.
I might.
Yes.
Probably.
Might rank him first, honestly.
If Shador Sanders is to play, I would, yes, I would do the Raiders.
He's going to get all the first team.
reps though. That's true.
Is he going to, if he unlearns
how he's played quarterback his entire life in
five days, then
it'll be fine.
Okay.
I would do the Raiders versus the Browns. Yeah. It's a good call.
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dot com. Okay, few emails, emails will get out of here. I thought you just said females,
but it was a few emails. I was like, oh, what are we doing? Okay, go ahead. Sorry, sorry. Sorry for
I'm wondering if we did actually have any. Oh, yeah, some people emailed in are actually women,
despite the odds. Hell yeah. Incredible. Although, first, we just stat watch here from,
from Mitchell. Mitch.
M. Bone.
Sunday's J.J. McCarthy
watched made me think about how many PFF
big time throws, or as Craig,
how do we say it? Big time froze.
Big time froze.
Big time froze. Big time flows.
Wormadunese.
Yeah, honestly, Craig,
can you just do that way?
Caleb Williams.
Womadunzee.
11 big time flows for Caleb.
Mitchell proposes
another stat for terrible quarterbacks.
Bad time throws.
J.J. McCarthy just overthrew Jordan Addis and five guys for hospital pass in front of the safety.
That's his fifth bad time throw this half.
Bad time throw. Bad time throw.
Do you think people laughed out of the title of our episode last night, which had J.J. McCant throw in it?
Or was that dumb? You think people like that?
It was dumb and therefore they laughed.
Definitely.
I think. I bet they think that I wrote it.
I laughed.
They think you're better than Craig.
Yeah, that was my. I wrote that, unfortunately.
But they probably thought it was me.
So if you were on the streets, you're the guy yelling at high fits over his Jordan Love Take,
and you also yelled at him for JJ McCampfer, that was not him.
Direct those criticisms to me.
So the real highlight of the emails today,
we asked you to send us examples of your parents mispronouncing names and words.
Wow.
Netflix.
Absolutely thrilling.
Yeah, in honor of Tony Romo's can't pronounce Steve Spagnolo's name.
And then Kai's dad apparently calls Netflix Netflix.
NextFix is so hard to say.
we had somebody in Milan to say my four-year-old daughter calls it Netflix
and she says she wants to watch her favorite movie Netflix
Kids Bop Demon Hunters on Netflix
Which is also funny.
Kids do say funny. One time I showed Calvin America's Funniest Home Videos on
YouTube for kids and then he thought
YouTube for kids was just America's Funniest Home Videos
but he calls it funny American videos
So anytime he wants to watch YouTube he just says
Can I watch funny American videos?
That sounds like what Borat would call Americans.
I'll take those two.
Make movie film for betterment of Kazakhstan.
If you were inspired by these emails,
I'll take things your parents say,
but I'll also take things your kids to say,
words or phrases.
Funny American videos.
So with these, this email's from Graham.
Graham.
G-bone.
My dad, a lifelong cheese fan,
cannot land the plane on Patrick Mahomes.
Oh.
My dad pronounces it Mahomes.
Good God.
A Life Log's Chiefs fan?
Mahooms.
The announcer, all game.
What the hell?
That's a lot.
That's a lot.
That's wild.
Mahomes.
Man's won three Super Bowls for this guy.
Patrick Mahomes.
And Graham also writes,
we live in Nashville.
We also follow the Titans.
And for the entire time,
my dad referred to Ryan Tanna,
hell as Ryan Tannenbaum.
I love that.
It's just easier.
There's a lot of Tannenbaum.
Graeme says one more name.
I'll never get a lot of Tannenbaum.
over, didn't even have the heart to correct him, is my dad calls the guy David Hasselhorse.
I'm noticing the trend here that it's only dads.
Yeah.
Well, there's some mom stuff too.
Oh, I said, okay.
No, we got, let's see here.
Lucas here says, my mom refers to celery as salary.
Okay.
And she also cannot figure out my wife's name is Danielle, not Daniel.
What?
I know.
Come on.
Does it make any sense.
A popular genre was people being like my parents can't say,
my kid's names.
Yeah, I mean, look.
It can't be that hard.
I mean, sometimes it's hard.
Bill still struggles with Horlebeck.
I call you Clark Hogback?
Clark Hoggback.
I still get Holbrook all the time.
Holbrook.
Holbrook, Horblack, Horbeck,
it's never, it's never clean.
Oh my God.
I got to change my name.
Yeah, but that's not someone's first name.
I guess that's true.
Still, it's like people very close
to be in my life still sometimes can't really say my last name. I had this fear last night that
I accidentally called you Greg and I don't know if it's true or not. My brother's in law called me
Greg just to fuck with me. We should weave that in DK every now and then you see a C as Cid that calls us
on it. Very used to it at this point. This one's from Kirk. This one's from Kirk.
Kurt. Hey bowed. Today's breakfast was a bacon egg and cheese biscuit and a bottle of Diet
Mountain Dew. Thank you for sending in your breakfast. Yeah. Is it roll my bottle? A bacon
and cheese and a diet Mountain Dew?
A bottle of Mountain Diet Mountain Dew.
Well, I'm sure it's a normal 12-ounce bottle.
Yeah, not a leader.
A liter of cola?
Can I get a liter cola over here?
Not that like Will Ferrell from Elf.
Kirk, follow up with a trivia question.
How many ounces was in your bottle?
Kirk says, my dad's 70.
He says field gold instead of field goal.
Kirk says, they're cheese fans too.
Kirk says, my dad calls Isaiah Pacheco,
Isaiah Panchero.
Okay.
And the best part is here in Iowa, we have a Chipotle-like restaurant called Pancheros.
But I am certain my dad has never been to it or heard of it.
I thought you were going to say he calls that Pachecos.
Another one here from Eli.
Eli.
My dad's friend earnestly, genuinely thinks Alzheimer's is called Old Timers.
Yeah, that's a thing.
Old timers disease.
Oh, that's good.
He earnestly believes that's the name of it.
Old timers.
I've heard that.
Yeah, I've heard that before.
Please email these in.
These were so fun.
And one of them, this one is from Tanner.
Teet bone.
Tan.
Tanner says, my entire immediate family cannot pronounce Chalula.
We have Chulula in our fridge all the time, no matter what.
But my mom, my dad, and my dad.
brother all say
Chahuah.
What?
They say Chihuahua.
What are you fucking Al Pacino
instead of a woman?
Yeah.
And every now and then,
I'll hear from the kitchen.
Chahua.
Yeah, Chahua.
Unbelievable.
Chihuahua.
He says, every now and then
I'll hear
Chahuahua.
Jesus.
Not, it's not actually like that.
But he wrote
Chahua-huhua-huh.
You said the...
Bordering on
treacheration.
I know.
I didn't read.
It's not my...
He says,
Chahua-huh.
Huma-Hua.
Humunnamanui.
Which isn't even...
Not bad.
Not even close, though.
God, that's good.
Chalula, Chahua.
I guess it's easier to say that.
I don't...
What is Cholula?
I don't actually know what that is.
Hot sauce.
With a little wooden...
You would know it if you saw it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I recognize it now.
Okay, those are good.
Any others?
When I was a kid, I couldn't say certificate.
I said certicaphit.
Oh, that's funny.
And that lingered on longer than it should have.
Yeah.
To what, like 20?
Yeah.
It slipped in a couple times, you know, into my early adolescence.
Yeah.
This guy, one from Tim.
Timmy.
He said breakfast was peanut butter jelly with bacon and an optimum nutrition energy.
Peanut butter jelly with bacon to start the day.
Dude, it really is a window into people's lives, man.
I want to try that.
That's interesting.
Is it hot bacon, like fresh off the thing or did he put cold bacon on there?
Oh, interesting.
It's got to be hot.
I mean, like, what are you making?
It seemed like you would imagine peanut butter and jelly sandwich with hot bacon on it.
Sounds kind of good to me.
I got to say that.
No, this is where we have to.
D.K.
doesn't like bacon.
We always forget this.
Deacon doesn't like bacon.
Bacon overpowers everything.
Because bacon and jelly makes sense.
Like the sweet bacon works.
There's bacon jams.
Like that's already a thing.
This is quietly DK's hottest take.
He doesn't like bacon.
He doesn't like bacon.
Damn, a bacon, P v.J, sounds great.
Should we try that tomorrow?
It sounds really good.
I just think bacon, the flavor of bacon,
completely overreacted.
powers everything. There's a few, there's a few, like foods that like that, where it's just
all I can taste is the bacon. Yeah, but that's, but it's awesome because it bacon is great.
I understand that. I don't personally like the taste of bacon as much as everyone. There it is.
I don't, I wouldn't say I dislike the taste of bacon. I just don't like it that much. And I think
it overpowers everything else. So I just choose to have it out. So you don't like BLTs, right?
No, I would take the bacon out. Well, then it's not if I was forced to have a BLT.
if I was given a BLT
and I was like
You would take the bacon off the BLT
Yes
So let's say this
Let's say it's your only
You're hungry
And the only thing you can have
for lunch is a BLT
Are you still going to remove the bacon
Or are you just going to eat the bacon
Because it's the only thing
You can have for lunch
I'm removing the bacon
Probably
Yeah yeah
So you'd rather just have lettuce,
Tomato and bread
Yeah I guess so
I will like
If someone makes bacon in the morning
I think it smells really good
and I'll eat like a plain piece of bacon
and it's fine,
but I don't like it on other stuff
because it just completely
fucking overpowers everything else.
But if you like
plain bacon, why would you...
My point is I don't like it enough to have it on stuff.
I don't really understand that.
I'll eat it if it's there
because it smells good. I think the taste is...
But you're like, oh, this is detracting too much from the
lettuce and bread. Well, I don't
eat BLTs. I think
I think BLT's... There's like bacon...
My favorite.
bacon burgers, I would rather just have a burger.
Yeah, that's okay.
I get that.
The bacon on the burgers is a, it's superfluous.
Did you say it's superfluous?
What?
Did you say it superfluous?
Superfluous.
Is that a joke telling the movie?
I'm not,
no, I thought I, I thought I just caught a superfluous in there.
It is, it's, it's, I'm not, what is the office joke?
I'm not, I'm a little stitious.
Yeah, yeah.
Not superstitious, just a little stitious.
Hyphus has not said anything for a while.
I'm not superfluous, though.
Haifis, did you think it was superfluous?
I was just enjoying this podcast, making fun of D.K.'s palette and a mispronunciation accusation
accusation where I wasn't a part of any of it.
It was just, you know, definitely said superfluous.
We can check the tape.
No, no, no, no, I believe you.
I just thought you said something else.
That's a dumb word.
We should get rid of it.
I agree.
It's a superfluous word.
It is a superfluous.
Superfluous.
Yeah.
Superfluous.
How do you even say that fucking word?
Now I'm all sometimes.
Superfluous.
I'm all done time.
I can't even say it.
We need accents on words.
You need to know that the purr is the emphasis.
He's like, did you say it wrong?
Well, he did not say it.
No, we said it so many times.
I can't even remember how to say it.
Stupid word.
Okay, before this next email,
I want to give a quick trigger warning for parents
who are listening to us with your children.
The next one is really funny and really explicit.
Explicit enough that we decided to actually warn you
that this was going to happen.
So giving you your time, I'm vamping.
So you can go.
Pause the show.
come back because it's funny.
This email's from Ryan.
Our bone.
Right guy.
So we were talking about,
I made a plea for announcers
to stop talking about the term get off on Sundays.
And just,
I'd stop telling me a pass rusher's get-off is really fast.
And Craig,
you correctly pointed out.
You know what?
Maybe we normalize getting off really fast.
Maybe we not only normalize it,
but perhaps celebrate.
Another walks of life.
A quick get-off.
Yes, one second's really impressive sometimes.
So.
It's a compliment.
Ryan emails in.
It is.
It's from Ryan.
Arbone.
Breakfast is avocado toast with a fried egg.
Love it.
See, I'm doing, I fuck with that.
That's a great breakfast.
I'll eat that.
Don't put any bacon on it, though.
Ryan writes, as a bisexual man, I can say with authority that football is absolutely the gayest sport.
Yeah.
Both in terminology.
There's so much.
Yeah.
there's so much sexual terms.
It's so, there's so much.
Sexual innuendos.
Innuendo terminology.
Ryan writes also just actual physical action.
And I don't know if you've seen this clip from Chris Collinsworth a few years ago,
but I feel like it's immense my point.
And he included a YouTube video, and Carlos is going to play the video.
Get some positive energy going again.
Yeah, and let him get a little taste of some of these big guys coming out.
Yeah, like, all right.
Do you think you're going to run around our guy?
How about if you get a little taste of Landon Dickerson
coming right down your throat?
Jesus Christ.
So it had to be Landon Dickerson too.
Coming down your throat.
I don't ever want this to go.
I like this.
I agree.
This reminded me of the funniest, like, TikTok I saw all year,
which was this woman, I have the handle because it's so funny.
It's K-Katrice 10, who just had the caption
was just like what I hear while my boyfriend's watching football.
Yeah, it's like Aikman's like, they were coming and they were coming hard.
Wait, Carlos plant.
Sorry, I loaded this one too.
Starts to come and then he pulls out.
You have to like when there's a guy coming right in your face and he just sits in there and delivers it.
Jesus.
Coming down his face.
Feeling is the cowboy is probably coming right down their throat.
Yeah.
Well.
Yeah.
I mean, look, I think it's fun.
Let's keep it going.
Let's make it even more sexual.
Right?
What happens?
You know, you got...
Sex sells, guys.
Men out there battling every day.
You're going to get some quotes like that.
So what's going to happen, you know?
It's nice sometimes to get an outside perspective.
Sometimes, you know, you see something with fresh eyes and fresh ears.
And it all sounds very different.
I feel like Getoff is like the least of your concerns.
I agree.
Some of the other shit they say.
Yeah.
coming down your throat
I don't know why did they say
why is throat involved
I don't think that doesn't need to be there
say coming down the middle or something
coming around the edge
coming down your throat we don't need
yeah
I like that
there's also there I
when I do the draft guide stuff
there's so many sexual terms
you know like
just coming right through the gap
right into the gap
thrust is a good word
oily hips
oily hips bend
finishing ability
oh god the best finisher in the world
supple butt
I don't know if I write that one
in a phone booth used to be quite the skill
just it's all about the get off
so you can penetrate bend and finish
penetrate bend and through the gap
hard
or go around the edge
strong thrust
All right. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Ron. Thank you, awesome. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Chris Conselor. Thank you, Trayckman. Thank you for emailing us. Email each your trivia questions. Emails, uh, fantasy course for Power Hour. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, genuine or genuine. Nice. Genuine. Is that how you say it? Spelled with a GI, I believe.
Yeah. Anyway, ride it my pony.
I guess I would thought it's genuine.
Maybe it is.
I don't know.
I guess I've come to realize
I've never actually said the word out loud.
His real name is Elgin Baylor, Lumpkin.
Elgin.
Genuine Baylor.
Lumpkin?
Lumpkin always gets me.
Elgin Baylor in front of.
Is that really his name?
This is the fucking name is Elgin Baylor.
This is like Mike Wargonne being
always going to be a name Michael Jordan.
Yeah, Elgin Baylor.
Lumpkin is like the funniest last name.
I love Lumpkin.
but Elgin Baylor
I see why he had to go
to the stage name.
Can you Ryan?
He's also apparently known as
tornado,
which I was unaware of.
I did not know that.
Did you have any of their hits
besides Pony?
You know, I'm not the right person to ask.
You weren't there.
Well, I'm asking you anyway.
Look it up.
You got Spotify out.
We should play Pony
while Chris Collinsworth is reading those lines.
Yeah.
That would play.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Landon Dickerson.
Whomp.
Whom.
Whom.
Whom.
Ryan, the guy
all the way down the field,
you know?
Did you listen to Genuine,
D.K.?
Just pony.
Over and over.
There was a time during my SB Nation days
where SB Nation's like Main's,
like,
Twitter account would put everything to pony.
So like anything that would happen,
you just put it to pony.
And it was one of the best times of my life.
Honestly, that's like, it was a pure time back then.
It was.
The internet was.
The funny bit around the office.
You know?
Right.
Now there's like the headings and porn everywhere you look.
Yeah, you know, times are different.
Only if you know.
Let's just put it to pony.
Put it to pony.
I want to get back to the days where we just put stuff to pony.
We can start that.
We have an Instagram.
Sure.
Bring it back.
All of our breakouts will just be set to pony and then he'll sue us.
We'll bring it back.
Goodbye, everyone.
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