The Ringer NFL Show - Week 15 Awards and Week 16 Waiver Wire Targets

Episode Date: December 20, 2022

We recap Week 15 by giving out awards for the biggest collapse of the day (hard to choose!), a gigantic week for QBs, the fringe players who went ballistic, and the tight ends who ruined your fantasy playoff matchup, and we add our next player to The Ringer Fantasy Burn Book. Then we run through the injuries from Week 15 and offer up our must-add players for Week 16 with our favorite format, Showdown Time. (02:02) - Week 15 Awards (33:09) - RB Targets (41:28 ) - WR Targets (46:53) - TE Targets (54:35) - DEF Streamers Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and we are combining our Sunday and Monday shows for a mega recap of week 15 and a waiver's extravaganza to help you for week 16. Wow. We're going to start with their awards for week 15. Yeah. What are you doing extravaganza? I'm doing bad. I'm doing poorly because, you know, you work all year, you study,

you try and be active on the waiver wire. You really support your team emotionally, spiritually. you start hot, you go nine and one, you're feeling like you're on top of the world, nothing can get in your way. And then you just blow it in round one, and it's all for nothing. None of it matter.

So what's all of it for? 14 weeks of struggle and success, working to do what? To flop to the sixth seed in the playoffs. Great. I think I feel like Craig is the audience avatar. There's probably a lot of people that had that problem. What's the point of even doing any of this?

If you just, it all comes down to one game and Justin Herbert decides to not throw the ball in the red zone, they just hand it off every time. Craig, it's the journey now the destination. Not in fantasy. You have to enjoy weekend and week out. The small things, the little things, you have to enjoy. I'm going to enjoy this season ending.

All right, well, as you can say, we're starting with losers right off the back. We're going to get to our waiver picks for the week at the second half the podcast. But as Craig noted, we're going to start with losers. So first losers, Craig. Sorry, Craig. Otherwise, the big loser the weekend, it just was the weekend of the collapse. Yeah. Like that was just the theme.

I mean, Saturday had the Colts giving up. Oh my God. Biggest comeback in NFL history of the Vikings. And then, I mean, Sunday, like the bucks were up 17 to 3

and they turned it over four times in a row and they lose to the Bengals. And then the Patriot, I mean, see what happened there. The Cowboys lost in the Pixx in overtime. And then the Patriots said, we got to start the Patriots thing.

I have, how many times have you guys watched this play? Because I think. Probably like 10. The repeat of the stiff arm, like just like stiff arm. into oblivion, Mac Jones? I don't know.

I don't know what was going on. I don't know what Ramondre Stevenson was doing. I don't know what the fuck Jacoby Myers is doing. Mac Jones couldn't make a tackle to save his life. The attempted tackle by Mac Jones is going to go down

as like one of the funniest attempt ever. He got smushed into the ground. Just squished. He got Heismund into the ground. Yeah, he did. That was, all right, there's a certain category

of sports highlight where I watch it once that I physically have to watch it again. Like, it's addicting. And it's like the longest video I've ever seen where I'm like, I have to watch the entire thing again because I don't know. It's like an old man in the sea or like some book. You're like, I just read it again over and over.

There's always something new. It's like, it's a rewatchable. It's a rewatchable. It's the play of the year. I feel like Simmons is never going to do a rewatchable. No. We could do an hour and a half on it. The Mac Jones thing, it's, again, all,

players want to do professional athletes, I just want to win. Like, it's 1A. 1B is never be embarrassed nationally. No one ever wants, like, Stephen A. Smith, the open first take, talking about how you suck and you should take all the blame, and your entire family has to watch the entire country, like, make fun of you. It's everyone's greatest fear. I've come all the way through 24 hours later.

I just feel bad for Jacobi Myers. Did you know, well, there was a post-game presser with him, and he really owned up to it and just kept sticking to the line of, like, I was just trying to make a play, play hero ball. I made a mistake. I'm sorry. And they asked them like the same variation of the same question, like 10 straight times.

And he just kept having to repeat himself being like, the coach didn't tell me to do this. I screwed up. I'm so sorry. It's like he's like Lee Harvey Oswald. I think he, I think he, I think Romandre Stevenson like got the lateral snowball moving.

And it happened once. And then Jacoby was like, oh, we're doing this? And then panicked and then ruin the whole game. I think that's exactly it where it. like he just wasn't like oh where are you thinking i wasn't i got thrown a ball and i'm like all right lateral hot potato yeah it's like i don't know oh god i almost feel bad for the guy too so i that was but do we know how are how are patriots fans taking this are is ever going to get to hate

chikobi meyers now or do they get to forgive him how do you have you seen like i feel like it's more of a representation of the patriot season as a whole than they are going to be mad at chicoby myers it's just like the cherry on top i think hovering over all this is the fact that this happened against McDaniels. There are a former, very impressive, very accomplished, offensive coordinator,

and now he's gone and you have Matt Patricia calling plays. Not that he necessarily called this lateral play, but it is hilarious that this happened under his regime. Patriots fans,

I can tell you from talking to, seeking out, all of them that I know. They're still just focused on, they're like, well, the touchdown from 30 seconds early,

he was out of bounds. So like, it's never going to happen. He was out of bounds. They're not wrong. They're not wrong. He was clearly out of bounds. The referees were kind of loose this weekend. This freaking game, man.

Of the three that you mentioned here, or of the four that you mentioned here. So the Cowboys lost at pick-six, the Bucks. I mean, the Bucks collapse was arguably, like, worse than the Colts. The Colts lasted a little bit longer. The Bucks collapsed within, like, four-strait possessions. The game was, like, over. D.K. It was not worse than the Colts. Who's four-tear points?

Like, literally it wasn't worse. But like, it felt more deflating. Maybe that. I don't know. I don't know. The bucks are been collapsing. They're perpetually collapsing every week. So to me, this meant when I saw them up 17.3, I was like, I have, there's no shot in

fucking hell they win this game. The Colts. 33 to nothing at one point, right? Were you guys excited to turn the game off and go back to your Saturday? Yeah. I think everyone either didn't watch or was like, thank God, I don't have to watch this. I was golfing. I completely missed the whole game.

I had to go back and rewatch it. And I just was getting text like, Matt Ryan, man, this man is responsible for too easily of the two worst collapse in NFL history, right? Yeah, I mean, I talk about people who will be associated with that forever, poor Matt Ryan. But I have to say, like, I was on Saturday. I was like, all right, let me watch some of this game. I was just cleaning. And then they went up 23, 30, whatever it ended up being at halftime.

I'm like, oh, thank God, let me go and get some like Christmas stuff. And I just start, I didn't pay attention. I was like shopping in Amazon. I was getting gifts. I look up, I'm like, oh, that's weird. They keep, and I look up. And I'm like, is that a one possession game? It went from like, oh, wow, they're frauds.

It's like if SBF was released from jail. That's how I felt. Who felt the worst going to bed that night? Laying in bed, looking up at the ceiling. Who felt the worst? Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, or Jacobi Myers? Jacobi Myers. It's not even close.

It's not even close. I don't want to hear any argument. Jacobi Myers, it's layers on layers and layers of everything you don't want. He acted rogue in a team sport. He defied all his coaches. He let all his teammates down. Everyone in the fucking, sorry, curse, trying to curse. Everyone in the country is making fun of him.

Not just for being dumb. And not only did you cost your team the game, legit might have cost the Patriots of playoffs season. I know that's the biggest thing. The swing with the playoff odds, I was watching, who's the guy on Sunday Night Football that does the playoff odds? I can't remember his name off the time.

Steve Granaki. Yes, yes. He was talking about like the odd swing. Like basically the Patriots would have had like really strong odds of going to the playoffs if they'd won that game. And now it's like very remote chances of going to playoffs. By the way, I love that television. that Karnaki has.

Like, I love around playoff time. ESPN turns into CNN during an election. He's got the big television. What's the guy? What's the, what's the- tracing stuff on the screen? What's the CNN guy's name? Is it like John Kelly?

Something like... John King. John King, right. Yeah, it's like the ESPN version of John King. He does that. He does that too during the movie. John King is controlled and measured

and he talks fast. Steve Kronacki's like Charlie from It's Always Sunny. Like, like, Carol. Carol. Like, that's a Steve Kornacki. Like, too much coffee. Oh my God. All right.

Otherwise, yeah. God, that was really bad. One other note, though, I have to tell you guys. Can I blow your minds for a second? Yeah. Colts. Biggest comeback allowed ever in NFL history, obviously. Colts defense, highest-scoring fantasy football defense of the week. Nice.

What? Fantasy. Shout out to Luke for emailing us this. Well, because they had two touchdowns, right? Yeah, but I've never been more convinced in my life that fantasy football is broken. Yeah, they scored. but literally they allowed the most points of any team this week, and the Colts allowed the most yards of any team this week,

and they're the number one team by far. The Browns, the Browns defense allowed three points and had like half as many points in fantasy defense as the Colts did, who allowed 36 more points. Nothing gets Hafeits' goat more than like unlogical or illogical fantasy scoring. Like it just, there's nothing worse in the world. You know what I bother? me because there are so many things that bother you about the world that you kind of just shrug

and you're like, well, nothing I can do about that. Fantasy football, it's like, I need to convince like six of my friends to change this. And we can fix it. It's like, so it's a power trip. This is you on a power trip. You literally only need like a soft majority to change this role in the fantasy link. It's just like, it's the only thing I can make a change to the world. That's anyway.

All right. Think globally, act locally. there you go. Exactly. Also, real quick round in the Cowboys game, Trevor Lawrence was fantastic and is fantastic.

Three straight, really good games. Maybe you could even say like going back six games. He's been on fire. No, he had that one flop right in the middle of that stretch.

They lost to the lions, 14 to 40. Okay, so that one little guy, don't worry about that little guy. But the rest of them, I mean, but like,

look, last three games, eight touchdowns, one pick. He's also had 60 yards in a rushing TDC, so has nine touchdowns and one pick.

He's, he's, The QB2 and fantasy in the last three weeks. In addition to being like a really awesome real-life quarterback, he just looks really good. He's sort of turning into the prince that was promised. You know what I mean? Like he is the guy that we thought he was going to be the last month or so.

And it's just really fun to see. Plus, it's making the Jags really sneaky potential playoff team here late in the season. And obviously they beat the Cowboys, which is going to have implications for later in the year. Like the Cowboys are going to have to, you know, try harder as the season goes on. They're just not going to be able to cakewalk down the stretch. Yeah, so we can move into winners here, and I'll lump Trevor Lawrence into this category. My first winner is the quarterbacks who murdered your soul and destroyed all hope this weekend in fantasy football.

And it's Jalen fucking Hertz. It's Josh fucking Allen. It's Patrick fucking Mahomes. And I guess it's Kirk fucking Cousins. Wow. I'm picking up for the swearing that Hyphitz is leaving out. I'm adding for that. Nature finds a way.

Man, were these guys just absolute murders? Like Michael Myers that could die. I was going up against Jalen Hertz this week. And you know you do the thing where you go back and you look at his entire season on Yahoo. Like you click this little blurb and you see how many points. He scored all year in each game. And you're just look at the worst game he put up that year. And you're like, all right, it was 20.

Okay, I can deal with 20. If Jalen Hertz puts up 20, no big deal. He starts the game. He throws like two picks in the first half. He's got no touchdowns through the air. He like runs one. And I'm like, all right, Jalen Hertz is having a bad game. The thing that sucks about the modern quarterback in fantasy football is that the best

ones can obviously do both, right? Get you a man that can do both. They can run and pass. And the fact that Jalen Hertz can have an incredibly mediocre day through the air and still eviscerate you for 30 plus points in fantasy is absolutely demoralizing. And Josh Allen is the same way. Yeah. I was going up against, in one league, I was going up against Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson. After like one day, I was down 60 to nothing essentially.

And I was just like, there's no way. Like this is my, this team coming into the suit was 13 and 1. Like, ridiculous. ridiculously good team. I'm like, I'm going to get fucked in the first round here. This sucks. Like, whatever. My two quarterbacks, Craig, Jalen Hertz, Patrick Bahams. This is a Superflex League. I'm back, baby. You're back? Yeah, I won.

It was like the greatest, like, freaking roller coaster of emotions because like what you're saying, Jalen Hertz, Patrick Mahomes, going up against Kirk Cousins. And then obviously, Justin so it was just like, it was like Jason versus Jason or whatever. I don't know what another unkillable villain is. I know that we continue to

say that, you know, be smart about how you draft your quarterbacks in fantasy. You don't need to get the best one in the league. You spend too much money on them. You can get... There's still nothing worse. There's nothing worse than just playing an elite quarterbacking fantasy who just is relentless. We're going to talk about that later this week. Things have changed in the quarterback world.

Yes, they have. Not just quarterbacks. There were also so many random players that scored so many points this week. Yeah. So many weird flexes. Yeah. Super weird flex, but okay. Yeah, first off, Zay Jones.

Zay Jones is the overall 19th best wide receiver in fantasy football this season. Wasn't it like up to a week ago we were trying to convince people to put him on their teams? Yes. Like on the waiver wire? He's the wide receiver 19. He cleared like the 40-ish percent threshold we use

to like cut off waivers. I feel like he was out of that exercise like last week. Yes. The first week he was over. That's crazy. At 31 points, he had three touchdowns this week. He's had like four giant games and hasn't really done a lot anywhere else. And that's, I guess, enough to make him a top 20 player advantage of this year.

So congrats to Zay Jones. I doubt anyone started him. But there you go. I mean, especially between him and Evan Engram last week, like, Trevor Lawrence, it's just been like, there's been blow up spots in the Jaguas. It's been kind of crazy. Also, I have my Craig thing, though. I know.

Hyfitts was texting about this all day on Sunday. Jerich fucking McKinnon. Let the ex-o's fly. So triggered. Who somehow I talked myself out of as the number one running back last week because I was like, well, he's the number one running back. What are they going to do it again? Like, play the Texans.

They're going to be up a little bit. I'm an idiot. I hate, all right. First of all, it just became, somehow, Jerich McKinnon screens are just now the basis of the Kansas City offense and they can't score without him. Don't know when that happened. You know when you've got to go through your team,

you feel great coming to your team in the beginning of the year, and you play well, then there's a crisis of faith, and you're like, oh, my God, I don't know. And then by the time you get to play, you're like, you know what, this team is actually really good. I actually think I'm going to win. And then I had like two of those teams this year that both were just facing McKinnon. And I was like, God damn it.

You go through all this shit. What are the odds? You go through all this, just so Jonathan Taylor can get hurt. I'm like his second carry. And then Jerich McKinnon drops like 30 points. And I'm like, I'm stupid. I'm stupid for caring about this game. I'm stupid for predicting the future.

Like, I hate this. And I went out such a McKinnon deep dive that found out he has more touchdowns after December 1st in his career on a third of. the games. So he's just like the late season guy for them. Clutch King. Wow. Ice in his veins. I again, the dumbest I ever feel doing this show

with you guys is when a random ass player... There's a lot of moments in there, I'm sure. Well, so many. But the dumbest I feel is when a random ass player is like the number one player at their position and we do the waivers. We're like, well, it's not going to happen again. And then it immediately to the next week, they're just the number one running back.

Again, it's the stupidest I ever feel. Well, speaking of that, Craig, you had this guy written down. KJ. Osborne. What do we do with this guy? Nothing. We do nothing. 16 targets? Oh, no, no. Yeah, relatedly. Relatedly. 16 targets. I will not be tricked. We put that

away. We put it in the cupboard. We close the door. I was going to say, it's like, this is the same thing. It's either next week against the Giants, KJ. Osborne will just have 200 yards. But I'm also touring like broken clocks, right? It's like, you know, broken clocks right twice a day and like random third receivers just or have like 30 points once the season. I mean, he had 300 yards on the season before this game and he had 157 yesterday. I can't believe I just came out of the jerk.

We get it? And now we're like, Gingh, I was, uh, we're going to talk myself into him next week. I think he better be your number one pick then in these wide receiver waivers. I swear to God. I hate, no, I hate my hate myself. I saw this is the, this is the curse of like dynasty and this is the crux of dynasty where you guys like one time I saw this stat where he had like a really, really fast 10. yard split, like one of the best 10 yards splits of like anyone ever.

What's a 10 yard split? Explain that. The first 10 yards of your 40 yard dash. So he's really quick in other words. Got it. And like it's somewhat predictive in terms of like how good you are because it's a big part of route running and separation, all that stuff. And so like I've always had like this like I've got him on like my dynasty teams, KJ Osborne, whatever. I'm 100% like going to fall for the shit and start him next week and it's going to be terrible. Well once a year I guess he'll have a heat. He's like a clips. Yeah. I also we'll talk this more on the draft show, but I still can't believe

that they have receivers run a 40-yard dash from like a track position instead of just, you know, a receiver. Like, why don't they just have them start from... It's because all the numbers would then be screwed up from all past numbers. You'd have nothing to compare it to. So they get two chances at the 40-R dash,

just have them do a third one and just have them do one without being in the track position and then eventually you'll have enough data on all these guys. And if you're like, oh, well, they just ruin the dash, they're tired. Yeah, so is that happens at a game. team too.

You have to run more than two routes. I like the idea of a tired 40-yard dash where you have to run a mile and then immediately run the 40-yard dash after that. We can see how these people hold up. That's good. Grit.

All right. Probably unanswerable questions, D.K. All right. Are there any great teams in the NFL right now? So obviously we talked about some of the collapses earlier, but even the teams that won, the Eagles snuck one out against the Bears.

The Chiefs had to go to overtime to beat the Texans. the Ravens lost to the Browns. Not the like we thought the Ravens were a great team, but like I'm just ticking off like the top teams, like some of the best record teams. And then obviously I don't even know what to do with Minnesota's win. Like the first half,

they were complete an absolute frauds. The second half, greatest comeback ever. I don't know. Maybe we lands somewhere in the middle and they're just fine. And then the 49ers who are like in theory a great team have Brock Pretty at quarterback. And obviously I know he's played well, but come on.

I mean, we're not going to call the 49ers a great team because they have with Brock Pretty at quarterback. quarterback, right? I'm just excited for the Vikings to outdo Tom Brady's 28 to 3 Falcons come back in the Super Bowl, and instead of being like, wow, what a great job at the Patriots, we're going to be like,

just average it out. Absent frauds. Doesn't matter. Did they even win the Super Bowl? Like, they suck. Yeah, they won the Super Bowl, but their point margin was 8, so. Yeah, but at one point in the game, they got down 33 to nothing. Like, they're not good, right? I know, but I'm just saying. How many teams can come back from 33-0,

D-K? I just don't know what to do at this information, Craig? Can I offer up a great team suggestion that's not on this list? Can we just get a thing? Can we get any love for the Bengals who have won six straight football games? They're quietly really fucking good, yeah.

Someone who kind of thought the Bengals would have some wheels come off this year. I think that they, I kind of think if you put a gun to my head, I kind of think that they... Like you're picking them to win the Super Bowl. Yeah, like who's actually going to... I kind of think the Bengals

look like the best team in some ways. I mean, I still think the Chiefs are the team. But. Yeah, but the Bengals, the Bengals have consistently, the way the, the Bengals are like the only team

that can consist, have consistently flummoxed Mahomes. Joe Burroughs coming lost to them. No, but it's not, but it's not just Burrow. It's like, their defense has, like,

broken the Chiefs offense, like, three times. Yeah. And, you know, and no one else has really been able to do that. You know, you know, it was a great team.

Hyphitz, wait. Before we move on. Well, it was going to say, great teams to New York Giants. Oh, yeah. So High Fitz went to this game last night. I want to know what the mood in the press box was when that call against Terry McLaurin on the goal line. The dumbest call I've seen in a long time.

I was livid when I saw that. He checks in with the line judge who gives him like the thumbs up. He checked in. He scooted up like a little bit, not very much, but a little bit. And then it was like, okay, I'm good to go. It was like the ticky-taciest little tiny infraction. It was so stupid. That kind of shit happens.

that shit happens like 100 times a game. Line up on side. Not to mention that Curtis Samuel got mugged on that last pass. He's like literally getting hugged from behind. It's good defense. Oh my God. We're talking to the wrong person. Craig,

let me direct this to you. What did you think of that? Because that was bullshit in my mind. What is the explanation? Like the referee literally gave McClorn the signal. Like, yep, I acknowledge. So officially. The one thing I got to ask is like everyone's just assuming that,

well, the ref told him good. I'm like, I get Terry said that. maybe the ref had a brain fart. Look, it's absolutely a tickey penalty there. Especially in that situation, especially when it's just a run up again. I'm acknowledging that.

The only thing I do think there's somewhat of a massive leap in logic and being like the refth told McLoran he was good. Like you scoot it up. We don't know the refs said, yeah. I know that does probably look that way. Officially, I think according to the rule book, like the referees are not like granting you immunity if you point at them.

Yeah, but it's like an unwritten rule of football now where these receivers check in because it's telling the ref, hey, I don't want to break the rules. I'm aware of the fact I'm like on the line. It happens every play. And it happens like these receivers line up. They do this like on almost every play. Like, and that's what I'm saying.

Like, this was like the weirdest spot to do this because this shit happens all the time. He was like maybe back a foot too far, two feet too far. The guy, the slot receiver was lined up well off him. So like spiritually they're in the right formation. He was just like technically a little bit off the line of scrimmage. It's so lame. It's like such bullshit. It's lame.

I will say I'm almost annoyed by it at this point because they still have had to do the two-point conversion and the Washington's like the worst team. Literally, like, I think they maybe are the worst team from two yards out. So part of me is almost like, oh, I wish they had just gotten it. But also, not enough. Whatever. I mean, whatever. High fits is a Giants fan and you, you know, whatever. If this had happened to the Giants, I'd be livid and I acknowledge that.

I will just say two things. The Giants literally lost to Washington in week three last year because they called off sides and a field goal that Washington missed. There was no offsides, and then they moved it up five yards, and they made it as time expired. Then also, Washington literally beat the Eagles a month ago on Monday night football because they facemaxed Dallas Goddard so hard that he fumbled. And like, they didn't call face mask. And again, I'm not saying that's dumb.

I'm not really, it was bad. These were bad calls. But Washington's also benefited from calls and like it happens. Yeah, and I get that. Like big picture, like bad calls happen. I think just so it was like the optics of this particular play like drove me nuts. I will say, Hyvitz, if you go back a few weeks, we were talking about this Washington by Washington matchup for the Giants or whatever.

Or sorry, the Washington was on. It was New York by New York. And we were like talking about how like the Giants are going to get totally fucked in this situation. Turns out they got a tie and a win. And now they're like way more favorites go to the playoffs. Like I think Washington's like almost out of it at this point. And yet I think the commanders are better. Right.

Well. But that to me is ridiculous because the one thing that's being forgotten is yes, they scored touch-down. They still would have had to do a two-point conversion to tie the game. Imagine if it had been 20-20 and then 2020 again. That's the funniest part is that

it would have been a 20, like if they had gone to overtime again and tied again at 20 to 20, I mean, that would have been the fun. I mean, what would the betting odds have been if you had bet on another 2020-tide? Astronomical. A thousand to one?

Oh, by the, way, real quick before we move on from this game, I feel like Sequan Barkley was listening to like all the pundits and stuff this last week week and a half about how he looks like kind of shitty again. He's not running downhill. He's dancing around too much. You know,

all this stuff that like has been kind of following him around his whole career and like there is some elements of truth to it. He was running hard like downhill in this game. I thought he looked awesome. That fourth quarter stretch where he had like three straight, 10-yard runs was and he was just spinning his way to first downs left and away. Putting the team on his back, you know? They were doing that at a shotgun, too, on first down.

Like, the shotgun runs for, like, 14 yards apiece. That was pretty cool. All right, well, great officiating this weekend. All right, next to word. Yeah, so we used to have this award called I'm Not Mad, just disappointed. I'm slightly tweaking that too. Pretty mad and also disappointed, and I'm giving that to Pat Firebooth. Hey, Pat, zero targets?

Dan, to see playoffs? Zero against the banisters? Really? Really? You just, you couldn't, you weren't open once? You played the whole game. I saw you out there. Nothing?

You just goose egg me? You're like a top five tight end this year. Nope. Okay. Thanks. Do you blame him or Chubisky though? Both. Yeah.

I have to blame Pat a little bit. I do. Do you blame yourself? No. Not this time. Not this time. Very strongly no on that. There was no doubt in his mind.

No. So, anyway. Anyway, well, because of Pat Firmuth, I did not. just because of him, because of a collection of players. I am out this week in my long running high school league. So with that said, I'd like to say goodbye to a player that I will no longer have the pleasure of managing. There's always a few guys who you're like, you know what, this was a great year,

especially the ones you didn't expect to have. This year, I'd like to give that to Terry McLaren. I love Terry McLaren now. He's the best. I would like to have him again in the future. I wish nothing but the best for Terry McLaren. I'm sad to see him go. Thank you for everything, Terry.

Well, you know, if he had just lined up on sides for your fantasy team, maybe you would have been able to go to overtime. Right. If the commanders didn't have that extra ref that the Giants had, maybe I'd still be alive. Wait, so is this you saying you don't ever want to draft him again, or is this just like a fair sweet, like I love you, goodbye. Like, I'm sad to see you go, you know?

It's not even goodbye and see you later. It's like, I'm going to draft you again because I loved you. Yeah. See it down the road. We should, should we made it that a segment at the end of the year, like Yelp reviews on players that we really liked? Five out of five would recommend. Incredible plating on this one.

Five stars. Service was immaculate. I get it. I thought for a second that you guys were like saying, peace, I'm done.

No. That makes more sense. No, no. I also, I would like to do that as well for Ken Walker. I think my ringer fantasy league

let's get 20 points from Christian Watson tonight. Real tough to have Ken Walker and Jonathan Taylor combo meal this week, but Ken Walker was an absolute pleasure. Yeah. And I hope to see you again. Just absolute fantastic.

A gentleman and a scholar, Ken Walker. I also, I'm sad to see you go. He's going to be a high traffic next year, you guys. Yeah. We're going to talk ourselves into this big time. All right.

Lastly here, the reports of my death are greatly exaggerated award. Yeah, so this is a quote that is attributed to Mark Twain, I believe. It's really a Shane Battingame meme now. Okay. Well, however, whatever generation you will subscribe to or whatever and feel this one. Zeke, the reports of Zeke's death, I think, have been greatly exaggerated. Since week six, Ezekiel Elliott is the RB9 in points for game. Obviously, Pollard has overshadowed him a little bit because he's the RV4 in that stretch.

But like, Zika has been like pretty consistently good weekend and week out for a while now. And we're kind of ignoring it because I think we all jumped off the Zeke ship. He looks old and slow and all that. But by the way, he had an injury last year. And he looks pretty good lately. I just wanted to shout that out, acknowledge it. We've been kind of like we've shit on him in the past. I've shit on him personally just because I wanted Pollard to play more.

But guess what? Paulers play more. It's great. And Zeke looks good. So I just wanted to, like, throw that out there. I do think that Zeke's, when you look at his fantasy performance, it looks impressive. But his fantasy performance kind of belies the eye test. He just runs for 50 yards in a touchdown every week. That's all it is. He has been a little touchdown dependent. I'll say it. A little. He's extremely. He's scored a touchdown in every game since week five. Yeah, but they're good offense. And I don't know. I actually kind of disagree. I think his eye test, he's looked pretty good. I I told you guys I bullied my friend to playing fantasy football

for the first time but he was like I don't want to read against the Cowboys so he just took like every single player on the Cowboys plus like DJ Dallas

because his name was Dallas and he just started like oh and seven but like now he's like eight and seven in this league because the Cowboys are playing so well

like the Zeke Pollard combo it's like the Metcalf locker combo where it's like you just had those two guys kind of better than anything else you could have done

yeah DAC is back. Yeah, the pick at the end of the game is not its fault. Like, it wasn't. Yeah, didn't it? Bounce off the hands or anything. Right off his hands. All right.

Really the most important award of the day is the Burn Book. The mythical, the fantasy playoffs, Burn Book. Perhaps the most important one of them all. D.K., while you were gone last week, we burned Mike Evans, which I thought really you would have been. I mean, I get that, yeah. Do you guys have any candidates for Burn Book this week? Because I have one.

Are we basing this off of kind of their intention? entire season or the last four or five weeks leading up to this or just strictly based on this week you're pissed because that's the playoffs and it doesn't matter what you've done in the past. I mean, ideally both, but well, I'll hear both. Well, I mean, I'd love to nominate Pat Fryermouth. I think I can one up you. Okay. I think we should burn Mark Andrews.

Oh. Do we not already? Because yes, that, I think that needs to be. Mark Andrews. So before he heard his shoulder, Mark Andrews was basically Travis Kelsey. They were like indistinguishable. he had his shoulder in week seven. Since then he's basically been like bad Gerald Everett.

And like again, he got hurt. Gerald Everett with more drops, which is saying something. And like, again, he's injured. He's playing hurt. That's the problem. However, for your team, this is a problem. And again, even the game he got hurt. He got hurt very early on the game.

He left. Like, take that out. Take that out of the equation. Like, you can't help you get hurt a lunatic game. Since he came back in fantasy points per game, Mark Andrew's worse than Kyle Pitts. Mark Anger's been worse than Noah Phantt. Since if Mark Angus came back from injury, he would be the third best fantasy tight end on the Tennessee Titans.

Per games. Behind Hooper and Chig. Behind Austin Hooper and Chigua Quanko. He's literally been worse than those two guys per game. Oh, boy. That's fair. I think the spirit of the burn book is to factor in the entire year or at least the last, you know, month or so. So I'm okay with taking Mark Andrews and burning him.

Also, like, relative to expectation. True. That's the thing. He's supposed to be your best. Imagine Mark Andrews for the last two months. You've been having a million. All right, at least I got this huge advantage here. And again, part of it's because Lamar got it went out.

But every week for two months, you're like, all right, well, I got this huge advantage to Tidend. And then the other guy who just picked up like Evan Engram or Chigo Conquo or Noah fan is just beating you a tight end every week. Yeah, that's tough. Mark Andrews, you're in the burn book. I'm sorry. Sorry, Mark. Those are awards. Second game of the double header here.

It's the extravagan. We're going to do waivers. Yeah. So again, we're going to go through every position, waivers. And if we pick the same guy at a position, then we're going to do like a little trivia tiebreaker. Are we doing this in expedited fashion? Maybe slightly.

Okay. Running back, we'll start right there. Hot week for running back, don't you think? Yeah, for sure. The big news, Jonathan Taylor ankle injury is probably after the season. So I assume, but I don't want to assume. I am taking Zach Moss first. He had 24 carries in this Viking.

game. So I will be taking Zach Moss for the cults. He got traded there from the bills at the trade deadline. So can you take Zach Moss? Yeah. So I have basically written down Zach Moss slash Dion Jackson. Because the last time Jonathan Taylor got hurt, Dion Jackson

was like a top 10 fantasy player. And it's kind of the more receiving. He was like the number one player in fantasy. He was literally number one. And he's kind of like the receiving part of the replacement package. Zach Moss is more of the first second down guy, Dion Jackson's. I think he's had like 10 catches in a game this year. So are you doing this because of

recency bias or do you actually think Zach Moss is just going to outperform Dion Jackson moving forward? I mean to tell you the truth, I don't know. I think Do we need to double check the date at which Zach Moss was traded? Because I believe Moss came

to the team after that big Dion Jackson game, though I'm not 100% sure. The Dion Jackson game was week six. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure they traded for Zach Moss after that. Yeah, no, Zach Moss didn't play for the Colts to the week 10. Also, Jeff sat like the Head coach of the Colts was literally fired and replaced by someone else after that Dion Jackson game.

That would be why I lean Zach Moss in this situation. So if you look back at yesterday, and this is the only information we have with both these guys on the field together. Moss had 53 snaps and 24 carries. Dion Jackson had 25 snaps, 13 carries. I think they're both honestly worth putting a waiver request in. I would probably prioritize Zach Bosch based on the fact that he saw way more snaps, way more carries. And they both had one target. Yeah.

Put one in for both. And if you can't get Moss, then hopefully you get Jackson. Yeah, I agree. I think that's a really good question, Craig. And I mean, Dion Jackson probably does have a much better receiving opportunity. I just do come back to what we were saying, a trick with Ken in. Well, one guy got 24 carries. And again, it's in a game where they were up 30 points.

So, like, maybe that doesn't happen again. But I think those are a really strong options. They have a really easy week against the run. Both those guys are probably really good options. Yeah. So Zach Moss Showdown time. Let's do it. What a week for Zach?

It is the Zach Moss. Showdown time. Now that we're in the playoffs, can I let you guys in on a little secret? Please do. We got an email very early on, maybe week one or two, and somebody asked if we were keeping track

of the showdown time performances, the trivia performances, and keeping tally, and then at the end we were going to do something, and they suggested an idea of whatever. So I have secretly been keeping track this entire season of how we have done in trivia. Oh, wow.

I have not added up any of the total points yet, But now that we're in the playoffs, I want you guys to know that I have been keeping track. Our point system of first place gets two, second place gets one, and third place in the trivia round gets negative one. So that was what the emailer suggested. Yeah. I wish we had a little, like, asterisk for you get zero if you're like an order of mag. Like, it's one of those like.

Well, you get negative one if you're in third. I know. One person gets it exactly. And two people were like a trillion off. But like, God. So you don't know who's winning right now? I don't know who's winning. and we will, we should, now that,

I wanted to tell you guys to give us a couple weeks to think about how we should end this saga, if we should have a, you know, some type of award or consequence or if we should have like a final trivia that's worth more points, like a double jeopardy situation, I don't know. Oh, that's good.

It's double it from playoffs. You want to double in a class? Yeah, this should be worth double. Okay. Moneyball. Technically we should have started that last week then, but whatever. Yeah.

Email us at ringer fantasy football, gmail.com, if you have extra trivia questions to send in Oh, steaks to put on for the end. I thought for some reason you said steaks and I thought you meant S-T-E-A-K-S. I was like, hungry? I was like, Winter gets a nice couple of steaks? Sounds good to me.

They don't have to say this. Anyway, all right. For Zach Boss, it's from Seth. Seth. What year was the first canned beer introduced? Wow. Hmm, I like this. I feel like this is in D-K's wheelhouse.

He's a history buff. Oh, you just curse me. You guys, you guys ready? I'm like, Justin Tucker hasn't missed a kick in seven years. All right. I'm ready. Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Clearly, Hyattis has an idea. God damn it. Okay. I'm so scared. I'm terrified. I just had my first gut. I'm not talking myself out of it. I like my first answer.

All right. Three, two, one, go. Ooh, this is going to be interesting. So, Hyphids put 1890. Craig said 1940. I said 1905. So shit. What do we got?

God, I just need. it to be... The answer is... It's 1935. Let's go! Craig! Damn, that's so frustrating. 1935, yeah, because I was trying to figure out, like, when do they start using aluminum cans?

Yeah, right. It couldn't have been that long ago. All right, so 1935. I'm sad. You can't make canned drinks without, like, heavy, like, machinery, right? Right. You got to, like, shoot carbon dioxide into there. You have to carbonated.

But it was the first, you know? I don't figure it could be... All right, anyway. Okay, so Craig gets... Zach Moss. Nice. So, Dika, your second, would you be taking Dion Jackson next? Or would you be going for, like, Tyler Alger on the Falcons or what?

Going off the board, I'm going Tyler Al Jir. I actually considered putting him over Zach Moss. I think it's very close. For starters, Algeria's looked really good, I think. Like, he runs hard. He breaks a lot of tackles. You know, this is obviously a very run-heavy team for the Falcons, especially with rookie quarterback now.

Caleb Huntley tore his Achilles. So it takes what was like a three-man rotation, and now it's probably more just going to be. Cordarral Patterson, Tyler Algear, for the Falcons. He had 17 carries this last week, 139 yards in the touchdown, plus a two-point conversion. So, I don't know, building on, like, the rookies tend to finish strong deal, I'm going Tyler Algear.

Yeah, it's the same idea, honestly, for like, Zach Ross or Alger, it's like, they're going to get double-digit carries. Like, it's going to happen. And then Dion Jackson, you're kind of hoping, like, all right, well, maybe he plays more, but it just, Dion Jackson has obviously been the number one running back, but that was when he was getting this thing, so we just don't know as much about Deanne Jackson.

Right. So now for me, it's kind of a question of Dion Jackson and Chuba Hubbard for the Panthers, who is just kind of like the starting running back for Carolina now, like he played most of the early downs, played all the third downs, he played all the two-minute drill. And like... Deonté Foreman had negative fantasy points this week.

Yeah, well, maybe it's because Forman's not totally healthy, but like... This thing, Hubbard didn't, like, touch the ball that much, but he's playing a lot. So on one hand, like, do you want that for the Panthers? And the Panthers are playing the Lions this week, which the Lions defense is, bad, but the Lions defense is like so bad and they score so much that teams don't run a lot on

the lines. I don't know. There's a lot of Galaxy break. I think the Lions defense has been a little bit better too. Over the last month or two. Yeah. It's really tough. I mean, I think that Chuba Hubbard's probably safer. Like Chuba Hubbard seems like a really good bet to also get double-digit carries. Dion Jackson probably is more upside. So it's tough. I can I throw in a name that you should choose or think about choosing? Yeah. Kaleel Herbert coming off IR. Um, um, it sounds, like he's going to be ready to go pretty soon here. Prior to getting injured, it was a rotation between David Montgomery and Herbert, and he's like certified good player.

So that's another guy I throw out there. The usage is kind of uncertain and the injury makes it a little bit more uncertain. But I think he's maybe worth picking up at least. Obviously, the season's almost over, but yeah. Honestly, I'm on the fence. Part of me thinks maybe Chuba just because he's playing so much for Carolina that like, that's just a lot of playing time. DeN. Jack's more of guessing game.

But honestly, I think he could go either way. what would you guys do? I think I would go with Chuba, just because it's more secure. Yeah, I know I'm getting. And then, D.K.,

would you take Khalil Herbert after Dion Jackson and then maybe like James Cook and Buffalo? Yeah, yeah, or maybe like a Jalen Warren. Again, we've been saying his name like every freaking week, but he had 11 carries season high.

I don't know what that means. You know, I don't know if the Steelers are going to continue that, but he's like a high, high-end handcuff at the very least. All right. I like this order. So, Zach Moss, Tyler Elgir, Chuba Hubbard, Dion Jackson,

James Cook, Khalil Herbert, and then, you know, Gus Edwards? Jaylorne Moore, yeah, exactly. Stuff. All right, wide receiver? I think I got an obvious one here, but there's actually another, again, there's a lot of good options here. I'm going with Jahan Dotson for the commanders.

Same, same. I mean, he just looks awesome for starters. He's legit good. All these other guys are like waiver wired, wide receiver threes. Right. Like, John Dotson, I think, in like, the next few years, could be like a legitimate player in the NFL. He's kind of already.

They passed Curtis Samuel too on the pecking order, I think, in their passing game. Curtis Samuel started the year just getting a ton of volume, but now that's kind of like petered off. John Dotson seems healthy. He is a playmaker in the air. He went up and stole a ball from a Giants defender last night, which was really impressive. And two straight really good games. Like he's playing more, getting more targets. Like early in the year, he was just like not having enough volume to be feeling really good about it.

But he had nine targets in week 13, came back, had six targets in this game. four catches, 105 yards in a touchdown. Yeah, I like John Dodson. Yeah, 100 yards and a touchdown. He should have had another 40-yard touchdown. Like, Heinecky just got sacked, but he was open for like, he should have had 150 yards in two touchdown.

So I love Dodson. You know, we talk about how wide receivers get going late. A lot of rookies get going late. Wide receiver rookies I'm talking about. What's crazy about Dodson is, although he wasn't really getting a ton of the volume to start the season, that he was just good immediately.

I mean, he has like the most touchdowns of any rookie, I think, right now, record receiver. I could be wrong, but he has a punch. He had six. Like week one, he just like had two touchdowns. And you're like, wow. And then like the next week he had another touchdown. And he's been like very good every time he's on the field. Yeah. And I mean, the reason that Giants Washington game was at times really because he had made an incredible play at the end of score. Oh yeah. All right. So we're all, we're all on Dotson. All right. I'm going back to the well here with the showdown time question from Seth.

Hold on. Hold on now, Danny. Arms up. Danny. Danny? Okay. It is the John Dotson showdown time. Yeah. Dotson. Back to the well with Seth, baby. Seth. Of the 18 vice presidents who have run for president, how many lost?

Of the 18 vice presidents. Dude, I'm like, I feel that I'm pretty good at Jeopardy, but then, like, in order to be really good at Jeopardy, in order to get over the hump, you have to know president shit because they fucking, like, incessantly ask. president questions in the show. And it's like my Achilles' deal.

I don't know jack shit about presidents. So all having said, I don't know. Let's see. So how many 18 have run for president? Yeah, 18 vice presidents have run for president. How many lost? I have my answer. I guess I'm ready to.

Okay. Three, two, one, go. Oh, my God. We're all very close. Craig said 14. Yep. I said 12. Dekis said 11.

Though we're all going to do way off. The answer is 12. Oh, let's go. Right on the month. Damn it, John Dodson. God. I get Dotson. Heifitz redeemed himself for getting the negative points last one.

Yeah, it's a big time. Okay, so this makes it difficult for me and Craig because there's just like a bunch of shots in the dark. You don't want K.G. Osborne? No, I can't do it. 16 target. I mean, obviously, like, he's a little bit down the line. I would still be willing to put him in a waiver just in case. But, like, I'm still going with Wajum Moore, I guess, just because, number one, I believe in the talent.

he's been playing more of late. He's kind of worked his way back into like those starters job. 10 targets, week 14, 7 targets, 51 yards receiving this past week, even with Zach Wilson, you know, still looking very shaky at quarterback. Here's the thing. If you had to play Elijah Moore this week. It's kind of in dire straits if you have to play any of these players, to be honest. I know, but I'm just saying, just played the Jaguars.

It's on Thursday. Does that change anything about it? Like, oh, I got to play Elijah Moore with Zach Wilson on Thursday. No, because I don't think there's any. everybody have more confidence in. A couple other players I would mention, Craig, maybe you could do your pick and then we'll talk about other guys. This is so lame.

D.K. is going to hate me. Mac Hollins, I'm just going to take Mac Hollins. I'm playing the Steelers on Christmas Eve night. Mack the Halls. Let's do it. Mack the Halls. I kept getting tagged by people when Matt Collins scored a touchdown this last week. Mack the Halls with Bows of Hollins.

He dropped a big pass, too, in that Raiders game. I'll be at that Steelers' Raiders game. Oh, really? Oh, nice. It's going to be seven degrees. Sounds fun. He had a touchdown, right? This last week.

He did. I may be misremembering. Anyway, I like that one, Craig. That's fine. I'm not going to do it, but you can do it. Rashid Shaheed for the Saints is quietly, like, turning into a big playmaker for them. Three straight weeks now with 50 plus yards.

His snap rate has gone up every week. He's over 70% snaps since last week for the Saints. He's pretty much reliant on big plays, but he's been showing the ability to make big plays. So, I don't know. Again, you're kind of getting into like almost all these players that you're going to be throwing in there are highly volatile. The KJ Osbournes, you know, Noah Brown potentially for the Cowboys. Russell Gage is still out there for the Buccaneers.

Wait, did you think Chris Moore for the Texans? I had him on my list as well. Bengers can't be choosers. I would probably take him ahead of Shaheed and guys, but again, again, but again, basically John Dodson's a really good option and the rest of these guys, it's like, take your life in your hands. I still think I still think Moore is probably the second best option. I think Russell Gage is not bad. Julio Jones has heard again. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, good luck. I mean, don't play these people. It's the point. Tight end. Yeah. I assume we all at Joanne Johnson as number one. He's back, baby. Back from the ankle injury. Two touchdowns looks good. There's two tight ends right now with seven plus touchdowns this season. Travis Kelsey, Juant Johnson. And not only that, Joanne Johnson has seven touchdowns in his last seven weeks. Also, yeah, well, in that stretch, the only person has more touchdowns than Joe Johnson is AJ Brown. Like literally it's AJ.

Jay Brown and like five people tied for seven touchdowns. I'm sure nothing could go wrong this next week with Juan Johnson and your starting line. We have been saying that every single week, though, and he just keeps scoring. He had a goose egg against the 49ers. The 49ers are great defense, especially in that middle of the field area. But otherwise, he has double digit points in five of his last seven games. So including that 49ers game. So like he's been pretty consistent when he's in there.

I mean, yeah, he's got the seven touchdowns in a row. So just pick him up, put him in. And then when you lose because- Enjoy those two touchdowns, yes. Well, no, when you lose because he's, breaks his touchdown streak. I'm sorry, because it's like almost... Yeah, it's tough.

So, Joanne Johnson time. It is the Joanne Johnson. Danny. Heist. Not paying attention. Joanne Johnson's showdown time. So I was looking at questions. We got producer Jesse putting up the hands

and hyphids is just like spacing out. Yeah. We're going to place you with Jesse soon if you don't participate. What? This is like talking to kids. If you don't participate. All right, one of these questions from Seth,

I want to ask you. Another one from Seth? All right. Yeah, I do. I'm doing the Seth Trio. Is Seth like your cousin? What's up? Seth is a good mix of like normie questions,

but like they're actually thought-provoking. It's a good mix of like not like how many bees are there. I like these questions. I like this. They are good questions. He sent a lot of good ones. How many bees are there? I think these are still thought-provoking.

but they're middle of the road. It's not like how old is Sam Jackson, but it's, yeah, exactly. High Fitz has me thinking about the bee die off now. Just how many millions of bees have died lately. It's an alarming rate. Yes. Why are the bees dying?

That is the question. How long you got, Greg. Chemicals? It's actually a huge problem. Yeah, chemicals. We'll get into it. We'll get into it later. But's for another.

That's true. When we do the fantasy rewatchables at the end of the year, most in answerable question will be what's happening to all the bees. No, the unanswered questions, what do we do about it? You want space or geography? Geography. How many U.S. states border Canada? But we got to answer this quick.

You got like 10 seconds. Oh, God. Okay, so put it in the thing here. Oh, God. Three, two, one, send. Ah, hyphen say I both. Same thing. Oh, she can't I both set 11?

I said 9. 13. Dang. Ooh, I was trying to think of like, there's got to be like New England states plus like Michigan and. So we need to do a runoff here. And I have the perfect question for it because I wanted to ask this question that I, I know the answer to now, but I don't want to be. Okay. Okay.

For, who is it for, for Gowan Johnson? How many grapes are needed to make one bottle of wine? See, that's a great question. One bottle? Yes. Oh, boy. Oh, my God. Oh, no.

My God. Somebody asked us, we were in a car trip like a month ago. It's just like organically came up. Yeah, bottle of wine. How many grapes? I have my answer. Oh, Jesus Christ. All right.

Okay. Three, two, one, go. That was way too high, probably. I said 750. Craig said 300. Sorry, Hyvitz said 300. Both in the right realm. High viz is closer.

It's 400 grapes to make one bottle. Wow. Yeah. Damn, I. I felt like I was going to be too high. Woo! Juana Dotson, that's a hell of a waiver. That's not very efficient.

400 grapes for one bottle. Yeah, but you know what? It's like 400 grapes sounds like a lot, but when you look at a bushel or a bundle of grapes, it's like, it's like that scene in Dodgeball when he opens the briefcase and it's just like the one band of money. And it's like, yeah, $10,000, not as much as it looks like in the movies. Right.

I was wondering if there was like additional rounds of like grapes that you need to like, that would be like, way more than you think or whatever, but yeah, just makes sense. So, D.K., who are you taking second? So second,

I'm going to go to Chiguaquo. Yeah. For the Titans, who has had three pretty solid games straight here. He's good, man. I like him. He's explosive. He creates these big plays for them.

Obviously, he's kind of competing with Austin Hooper to, like, get targets and stuff in this offense. Much like I was. Perhaps that's why I identify with him. Ooh, there you go. Austin Hooper is Craig's bully from middle school. Not bully.

just adversary in intramural sports in Little League baseball. The only, I guess, like, red flag here I have for Quanko going forward is if Trailing Berks comes back, they're a little bit redundant, at least some of the things

they were doing in this offense. And the thought is, like if Berks comes back, like a Quoanquo is going back to the bench. Man, if I were the Titans, I would try and play the two of them as much as I could because they are the two most explosive players

on the team. Agree, 100% agree. I think they've got big plans for him in the future. I'm very excited about what he can do going down the line. But he's going to be volatile. For me, I don't know. God, what a crappy day for me.

I won the first trivia, and then I got last in the last two. I'm going to go with Tyler Conklin. I know C.J. Uzama had two touchdowns, but Conklin just runs a ton of routes and plays way more snaps. I think Conklin, or I think Zama had like two targets, two touchdowns. So I'll go with the weekly Conklin dart throw. There you go. I think Shailen Hertz broke his collar, but.

What? What? In practice? No, in the game. Ediffle Network, Tom Polocero. Jalen Hertz, they're calling it a sprained throwing shoulder, some kind of shoulder injury. Not considered long-term, so I guess it's not a collar.

And Schefter, yeah, Schaefter, yeah, Sheffter, yeah, uncertain to play versus Cowboys, sprained shoulder, so Gardner Minshue might be playing. Oh, my God. So he's done for the year? No, no, no, no. The Eagles are saying right now it's not a long-term injury. Uncertain to play Saturday.

So he's probably out for Saturday. All beyond that, we don't know. Okay. Jeez, you got, I just got so scared there that, like, that he was going to be out for the entire. Well, God, it's lucky they're as good as they are, because now they can just really. Not a broken collarbone.

Sorry. There was a lot of mixed confusion at the beginning. So this is going to be interesting because people had kind of forgotten about Mishu. You know, there's Minchuania for a minute there, and then he just turned into a backup and everyone forgot about him. Simmons believes he's like a starter quality player. I'm kind of excited to see this.

hopefully he'll end up with a team next year that'll actually play him. The Eagles have Dallas, New Orleans, and the Giants. It's their final three games. Dallas, that's a tough one. Wow. All right. Well, we can. I don't remember.

What play did he get hurt on? I don't know. So Jalenard's got hit a lot in this game, but there's one where you stayed down longer. And I saw this quote that basically Jordan Milata, the left tackle was said. The one that scared me, he just laid there. I ran over and said, Jalen stay down. and Hertz said, pick me the fuck up. And I said, yes, sir.

Nice. Oh, man, that's crazy. Hopefully it's not too long. Yeah. It makes me love Jalen Hertz. Oh, hell yeah. He's like, it's got to be one of the most likable

and watchable players in the league right now. That's so sick. Yeah. All right, well, we'll see him comes back. All right, wait, fantasy defense, streamers, I mean, if Cowboys' defense, that's even better versus the Eagles. But ones that are available, Tennessee,

If they're playing, like, they're playing Houston this week, probably looked better when Tennessee didn't just give the Cowboys and Chiefs, like actual games back to back. So I don't even know anymore. Is that even still a good matchup? I don't know. But like in theory, the Titans defense against the Texas is good. The Browns are playing the Saints. It's something like the Browns defense. This looks like way better.

And then also, dude, the Saints kind of suck. So I don't know what you guys think about that. I mean, it's a little dicey, but like, dude, the Saints kind of can't move the ball. Yeah. And then another one, I don't know. do with, but the charges play the cults, again, with these whack fantasy scoring defenses, like the way the Matt Ryan takes sacks, again, the fact that the Colts, like, the fact that the charges could allow like 39 points, but if you just sack Matt Ryan a bunch,

I don't know, man, like, that seems kind of enticing. And then the Jaguars playing the Jets, with Zach Wilson. There's a football. Did you see some of the ducks that Zach Wilson threw up, like the prayers? We just launched a ball that should have been picked. Oh, my God. Michael Carter caught one of them. He was, like, ran under it.

Like, it was like a fly ball. Somebody made a great point about Zach Wilson. Like, if you compiled all of his highlights, he looks like one of the best quarterbacks in the league. But then if you actually watch him, all of the plays that aren't highlights are horrific. That's why the Jets are sticking with him. They believe in his talent.

High highs, low lows. Way more lows versus highs. One of his throws, he was like trying to avoid getting sacked, and it actually looked like he said, Kareem, and like threw it over behind his shoulder. Yeah, somehow Michael Carter caught it. But, yeah, I think the Jaguars, you could do worse. I saw somewhere, I can't, sorry, I don't have the stat in front of me,

but his, like, adjusted completion percentage in this game was like, here it was. Zach Wilson's Rich Comini from ESPN. Is it Samini or Kamini if it's, do you know? Simini. Simini. Rich Samini. Zach Wilson's off-target rate was 35% actually worse than his infamous game at New England, which is 35%. That ranks 434th out of 442 individual passing performances.

Wow. So he was just as bad as ever. In other words. that's what? Yeah. Like, what is, I, dude, that's so sad. Honestly, like, when they announced that Mike White had an injury and he was not going to play, I was like, this is bullshit.

They're, like, pretending to bench him. But it sounds like his injury is, like, legit. Like, it could puncture his lung or something like that if he played. So the doctors really are holding him back. I thought that, I thought the Jets were like, okay, here's our opportunity. Zach Wilson's going to go back in. He's going to win back the job. And we're not going to look like idiots or whatever.

But nope. No, I think that they wanted, I mean, they needed to win that game. I know, I know. It was a momentary conspiracy theory for me. Low stakes. We don't do this very much, but kickers, it's December. It's like almost New Year's and like the amount of wind and weather that starts to affect kickers. Two kickers I want to throw out there that they might not be available, but you should check.

Graham Ganoe for the Giants. They're playing the Vikings. Vikings have allowed the most points to kickers this year because their defense sucks. And they're in a dome. The Vikings have a dome. Cam Dicker the kicker for the Chargers playing the Colts this week

in a dome go get dome kickers Yes what they call The Kicker. Guys, I was late to the pod because I was too busy tweeting about a guy named Dick Bong

Major Dick Bong from World War II World War II Fighter Ace ran across this name on Instagram. Oh, because you're deep in like Cloy's box territory on Twitter right now, right?

Major Dick Bong and I tweeted it and then of course Roger Sherman he replied he said oh I've already written an entire article about this guy of course he has major dick Bong one of the

one of the great American fighter player aces of World War II Richard Bong was my father call me Dick call me Major Dick Bong so this is so funny because like Cloy's box obviously was like a war hero and came back he had

he built like a billion dollar business he had like this like massive fortune he's just like a sion of industry and it came up that like my buddy Scott Barrett was like every every person from the world war two era like their biography reads like this got got injured in world war two four times but survived killed all the Nazis killed 35 Nazis came back set up a billion dollar business has a 10 children they're all like every freaking person from that era had like the most incredible life story if you just started a business in the late 1940s you're a billionaire yeah yeah what

is it now one out of like, what, five small businesses fail, and then it was like 11 out of 10, 60. Just the greatest generation, guys. Clois Box, Dick Bong, major Dick Bong. Anyway, Seifis, continue with their kickers. No, that's it. That's fine. I can't beat that.

All right. All right, that's all we got. Thank you. D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you to Jesse for production help. Thank you, Dick Bong. Thank you, close box. That's major Dick Bong.

Sorry, major Dick Bong. I'm sorry. I don't have been this deal with that way. Thank you, Lauren. Lauren. Thank you, Culeo. R-I-P-Dick-Bong? Major Dick-Bong.

What did Roger write about Dick Bong? Sorry, Major Dick, I apologize. He didn't work his way up the ranks to be called Mr. Bong. Major Dick. Get over here. Oh, my God. There's apparently, so I got a ton of responses to this major Dick Bong thing because there is a recreation area in Wisconsin

called the Bong Recreation Area named after Dick Bong. That is special. Dick Bong was unfortunately killed. He was killed during a training exercise. Yeah, it was 24 when he passed away, it looks like. So he was killed on the same day. He was killed during almost World or 2 when the atomic bomb hit Japan. And on the Los Angeles Times, it was literally the headline is atomic bomb hits Japan.

And then the next like subhead, which is just barely smaller is jet plane explosion kills major bomb. Like he was really famous, Major Dick Bomb. atomic bong. There we go. Too soon? Yeah. It's been almost, it's been a hundred years.

I know, but talking about getting specific, made it less funny. Okay. All right. Well, apologies to the bong family. He sounded like a hero.

Here's a subhead. GMC plans major plant extension here, a major Dick Bong plan extension, if you will. I'm really confused about what this timeline was. Sorry, he was an ace and a role or two, but he didn't.

He only, he died like right after coming home, basically. He was being a test pilot. He was flying jet. He was test piloting jets. Gotcha. Yeah. Very sad story, but also American hero.

You guys, I have it. She talked about, that first question from Seth was about when was the first canned beer made? I just looked it up. Can you guys guess what the beer was? What type of beer was canned? I mean, the fact that you want us to guess, is it like a sour or something that you didn't think would exist? Are you tired to second?

Brand? Yes. What brand? Miller. I've never even heard of this. Maybe I'm in the dark. Kruger's Cream ale was the first canned beer? Cream ale?

The fuck? Okay. Kruger's cream ale. It's not even in business. Went out of business in the 60s. Well, man, that's why you don't know about it, Craig. I guess. Godfrey Kruger Brewing Company is the name.

Godfried? Gottfried. Ghrigrugger Brewing Company. Gottfried Kruger, famous World War II hero, had, he was, he killed 75 Nazis. Came back, started canned in beers. Billionaire.

I'm looking now, this company, this guy started, Godfried Kruger started this company in 1858. It went on business in 1960, and Craig is like,

man, couldn't even make it to 2022 with a loser. He killed a bunch of Nazis in his 90s. That's how bad ass he was. He must have really screwed up if he was around

for 100 years and blew it and he was the first kind of can of beer. I know, right? Prohibition probably didn't help. I feel like he had a head start being around for 100 years. Oh, wait. That's how,

Oh my God, I'm so mad. The first, it's saying here in 1933, the canned beers came out because of prohibition. Yeah, right. It feels like a really obvious guest now in retrospect. Well, prohibition ended, what, the 30s? 30, yeah, something like that. I don't know.

I haven't watched peeky blinders in a while. It's actually wild. Like, what do you really think about it? It's so wild that there was prohibition. You want to know my hot take? It should be illegal. God, damn it, Chris. Craig wants us to fucking eat humans, but not drink alcohol.

Honestly, I'm actually, the only reason why we drink alcohol is because we've always drank it. And we don't know what to do with our hands. No, false, because it's fun and it makes you feel good. It's poison to a point. It's literal poison. You know when you get drunk, you know what that is? Your body's dying, shutting down. Craig, 75% of the food we eat is poison.

That's bad too. But, like, but, Dinket, your argument, what is the difference between alcohol and all the other drugs? It's like all the other drugs. It's also like, well, it's fun. But it feels good. Like, everyone's like, don't smoke cigarettes. It's bad for you. But anyway, let's go grab a drink.

You ever listen to music and drank before? It's great. You ever looked up with the stars at night? It's a USBP? I mean, come on. Anyway. 1920 to 1933. It's prohibition.

Wild. I'll refine this take and come out later on the hottest take. No, you don't need to refine it. Just do it on the hottest. It's ready. This take actually makes me angry. It's ready. That's a good.

Your cannibalism take, I can handle. This one, I will not abide. Okay. We need prohibition back is pretty good. Good God. I've been wondering if we should have, like, rehab centers for phone. I would like a phone rehab.

I mean, that's an idea. That's not a hot take. That's a good idea. Right. That's like we can all agree. That's true. How long do we all get to just, like, acknowledge to ourselves

in a hundred percent seriousness? I am addicted to my phone until we actually treat it like an addiction. Hi Fitz. What would you say? What's more destructive to the human body? Well, actually, I'm not going to say this. This is. Are you going to say like social media or alcohol?

It's obviously alcohol. But in moderation, maybe not. I think that actual, I don't, I think that I actually can drink in moderation. I don't actually know if I can use my phone in moderation. Right. I've tried. Well, it's harder to quantify the negative aspects of the phone just right now. No, it's not.

I have screen time, Craig. It's like super quantifiable and it's disgusting. Yeah, they're tracking everything. God created the heavens and the earth and I spent a quarter of my day looking at this goddamn phone. Yeah, what makes you feel better? Like six course lights are just diving into TikTok for 20 minutes. I don't know. Either way, you come out of it and you're like, why did I even do that?

We need a word for that, the phone hangover, when you're like, Did I just spend three hours? It's been an hour. Or it's like, this is an experience I've had many, many times. High fits, I'm sure you have, too. Like, I'm on deadline. I have, like, two hours until I need to fucking file this thing. And then I spend 45 minutes just, like, flicking through Twitter.

No. Well, that's the thing about the phones is, like, people, they're finding all these new mass habits and a lot of them develop during the pandemic. But there's something called, I forget the term for it. But basically... Procrastination? What? procrastination?

Oh, no, it's like the opposite, actually. It's like if you go to bed at night and you kind of just start scrolling forever for like half an hour, an hour before you go to bed, that there's a good name for it, but basically that's your brain reclaiming your time and that basically, even if you have been disciplined and have it looked at your phone all day,

your brain is like craving that so much that you just do it before you go to bed. And it's like a much more powerful than you're like, oh, I just like to scroll on my phone. It's like, it is like an observable thing that they've started measuring. We're addicted to our phones. It's crazy. Well, D.K., we can get together. Enjoy a Kruger's cream ale. Look at our phones. Godfried Kruger. Oh, man. Good stuff. All right, goodbye, everyone.