The Ringer NFL Show - Week 15 Recap: Peak Pitts, Mahomes and Micah Go Down, Bo Nixes Love, Daddy Josh, Grandpa Rivers, and Buzz Nutter

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

The guys recap all the NFL Week 15 action by going through categories such as Winners and Losers, Fart or Shart, Intrusive Thoughts, and so much more. (0:00) Intro (1:58) ‘Sunday Night Football’: Vikings-Cowboys (8:27) Winners and Losers (48:35) The Oppenheimer Award (01:11:59) It’s So Over. We’re So Back. (01:18:08) Fart or Shart (01:35:17) Intrusive Thoughts (01:43:56) Ick of the Week (01:47:38) Tom Brady/Magic Johnson Tweets (01:49:49) The Lucille Bluth Award (01:55:05) Fantasy Burn Book Click here to join our Discord! Check out our 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here!  Email us! [e-mail] This episode is sponsored by Chime. Bank Smarter, Progress Farther The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit http://www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, Ronak Nair, and Ryan Garcia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Okay, going over all the games, but first, Sunday night football, the Minnesota Vikings, not destroy but more than beat the Dallas Cowboys tonight. The Vikings actually walked away with like a double-digit victory here over Dallas. The final score ended up being, oh, God, I lost it. 34 to 26. Only 8 points. But double digits close. it was eight is almost 10.

Yeah, you did really, you did, it was close. I was close. DK, what did you think of J.G. McCarthy abandoning the whole fixed mechanics thing and just being like, yeah, just make decisions. I mean, it seems like it's working.

He definitely had a much better game than he had like previous to, where they were talking about all his mechanics and fixing his mechanics and all that stuff. I think that really got to his head. I still think he throws kind of funky. They talked about it a bunch on the broadcast. like when he was rolling to his left,

there was one play in particular where it's just like it looks like he has to put his whole body into the throw. But for the most part, he was playing pretty confident, pretty swaggy. Like he did the gritty when he scored that touchdown. He was like celebrating. And I don't know,

it just looked like he has all his confidence back, which is great. Obviously, people are going to say, oh, it came against this Cowboys defense. It doesn't count. But honestly,

like, I'm just happy to see him playing well because the NFL just needs more good quarterbacks. And he still has a chance, I think, to be one. Why would you say the NFL needs more good quarterbacks? Would they, like, bring some guy back who's 44 years old and haven't played in five years or something?

Yeah, I mean, like, that's just one example. But yeah. Okay, that's a fair point. I can't tell if J.J. McCarthy's good. I can't either. I mean, I don't think, obviously, the book is not closed on him one way or another. I think it's nice to know that he is not a disaster. Yes.

That's what I was saying. Yeah. Which is comforting to know. Yeah, it's like the last two games, he was solid against the commanders and against the Cowboys. two below-par defenses. Yeah, I don't know. It feels like the only throw he can make is like a 25-yard missile,

but it's accurate most of the time, and he can kind of do that and everything else. Like if he has to make a pass under 10 yards, like it is going through his wide receiver. And oftentimes Justin Jefferson's hands. It feels like Jefferson is not used to the speed that J.J. McCarthy is throwing.

I know. Touchdown. He's dropped. Can't catch the ball. Yeah. Hyvitz, what do you think of J.J.? I mean, I get D.K., what he's doing here with his whole, like, positivity of like, hey, he's not like the worst quarterback in the entire league.

But like, I don't think it, I think that they have salvaged this season for him. And again, like, Kevin O'Connell's the one who compared JJ McCarthy to a golfer where they're like, sometimes the mechanics, you know what I mean? He explained it like golf. And I think like golf, I think they tried to fix his swing on the course. And that was a fucking huge mistake to try to change his swing. What were they thinking? That seems really stupid. Yeah, they're like, you know what?

Like a smart coach. Just hit it on the fairway and like, we'll fix this in the offseason. And like, that has worked against the worst defenses. in the NFL. So I think the Cowboys, it was pretty pathetic. I think Barnwell had a great post tonight that basically argued the Cowboys' entire defense of turnaround was basically just destroying the Raiders and otherwise the Cowboys have been basically still pretty bad on defense. Quinn and Williams got hurt today, among other people. But yeah, I guess I'm happy that JJ McCarthy after the season he's had could still do the gritty into the end zone. I don't think I would

have the humility or the, like, I don't think I would have enough pride salvaged after my entire face became a meme all season to be synonymous with being a terrible quarterback. Yeah, but he doesn't know that because there's no way he's online. That's true. He's too focused on himself. I think the fact that he was that, like, showing that much swag on the field is honestly like a really good side considering how much he's absolutely been destroyed over the last couple of months.

I thought it was like legitimately a good side. Like he's out there having fun, which is surprising considering the shit he's had to take. I wonder there's a world in which this is the worst case scenario for the Vikings where he's like good enough. Right, right. To come back next year and maybe the year after and you kind of keep convincing yourself that like, let's give this guy a shot. And in reality, he's definitely the worst quarterback in his division. And they just are going to have no shot as long as they have him because they're going up against golf, Caleb and Jordan Love. Yeah, well, you know what? He'll just fix it at the range.

You know, that always works. So now they'll fix him a kid. We'll see. I mean, look, he's still a young quarterback and they'll do it. I think it's a great bit that Jaylon Naylor is the number one receiver in the Vikings. Jailen Naylor tonight ended up with, what are he had hit 47 yards. and two touchdowns. Justin Jefferson had two catches for 22 yards. So if you had him in fantasy, then you're officially out of the playoffs. Congratulations.

So for the last two games, JJ McCarthy has five touchdown passes. He threw for a little over 400 yards. They scored over 30 points in both those games. And Justin Jefferson has 33 yards in those two games. So there's a lot of meat on the bone is what you're saying. That's true. A lot of room from improvement.

Yeah, pin high, just not on the green. I mean, he threw a touchdown to Justin Jefferson today. And Justin Jefferson just forget missed it. So it's not all, it's not all on Jay-G McCarthy. He was just so shocked that there was a ball. We can't blame this on JJ McCarthy. Oh, okay. Well, the last three, I'm just saying Justin Jefferson, whatever it is,

I'm just saying if you took Justin Jefferson in the first round, the last three weeks, Justin Jefferson in the NFL ranks 93rd in receiving yards among wide receivers. He has 90s behind Jalen, he's behind Mitchell Tinsley. He has 37 yards in three. games. Yeah, it's not great. So, sorry to Kim. It's like all time. We're kind of approaching all time fantasy disaster for Justin Jefferson. Like first round pick, best receiver in the league, 37 yards in weeks 13, 14, and 15 is a calamity. Yeah. That's as bad as it gets. If you just do the quadrant graph, if you just do a graph of how talented the player is and how bad

the performance for healthy people, yeah, it's probably the worst stretch. I mean, even if you were like, well, I'm thinking about sitting Justin Jefferson. As crazy as that sounds, well, you sneak into the playoffs, you look at the schedule. Oh, they're playing Dallas. Okay. I'll give it one more go. And he has three points. The other person, Brandon Aubrey, I think his brain broke tonight, did the fake field goal on the drive.

The game started with Mike Dorico being like, J.G. McCarthy didn't throw a pick last week. How cool is that? And then they're having Collinsworth, they barely done speaking. And then McCarthy throws the tip pick. and then they do the fake field goal, which was pretty cool. And then Brandon Aubrey missed two kicks after that. Kind of broke his brain.

Yeah. So. This is what happens to all kickers. If they fail, eventually they fail in one team, and then they go to another team, and they become a legend and hit game winners, like the guy on the groupie.

You want to just, should we just do Rivers right now? Is he getting the winner? Are the Seahawks the winner and the loser? Who wants to assign that? I feel like the Seahawks literally won the game. They're the literal winners. But the,

In spirit, I kind of feel like the Seahawks lost that game and the Colts won. They ensure that no one will have any faith in the Seahawks in the playoffs this show. D.K. It's right where we want them. Yeah, you can't be the overdog like Bo Necks. So the Seahawks won 1816. Just to recap this, Philip Rivers comes back for the Colts at 44 and then actually leads a comeback. And he gets the Colts.

They have to play Groupie. Blake Groupie. It's a 60-yard field goal with 47 seconds left. and the Colts take the lead. It was great too because the broadcast caught Groupie just like hitting the smelling salts right before the play. He's like walking out onto the field. He just hits them.

And then he just nails the 60-yarder. And it was like right down the middle. It was no doubt about it. But yeah, I mean, overall, I mean, what did you think of this Phillip River game? No, no, I don't care what we thought. What did you think? You're a Seahawks fan and you have the,

you allegedly have the best things in the NFL. that was the most defensive of Philip Rivers before this game for the record. You guys were like, you guys were like so confident in the Seahawks. It was making me really nervous. Lo and behold, that turned out to be the case. I don't think he like played especially well, but he played much better than anyone could have expected a 44-year-old. I guess. I guess.

A five-year, a five-year, like, retirement. I mean, he almost freaking got them to win the game. It's not like he was making like big throws and things like that, but I do. think, and this is what he said before. I think he gave them a much better chance to win than freaking Riley Leonard would have. So, yeah, the Seahawks, they got away with this one, skin of their teeth, freaking Jason Myers. What the fuck happened? How did you almost lose this game?

Seahawks can't run the ball to save their life. Sam Darnold is Sam Darnold. He made a couple nice plays. I will give him credit on like the last drive. He got them in position to win the game. 56-yard field goal from Jason Myers, who had all of your, he had six field goals. goals. He had all 18 points. The Seahawks were losing 13 to 6 at halftime.

What were your group texts like at that moment? I think it was like, what is happening? I think everybody was like so just absolutely, there was, you know, there was the feeling that there was absolutely no doubt that Philip Rivers was going to like get murdered in this game. And I'm like, he was literally up for the Hall of Fame like a week ago. But why does everyone think he's going to be that bad?

I didn't quite understand it. But he obviously, he's like 200. Well, he wasn't up for the hall of him last week because he stopped playing last week. It's because it had been five years. No, I know, but I'm just saying he's a fucking, you know, potential hall of favor. So people were acting like he's going out there, like some make a wish kid or something.

I don't know, man. I don't get chopped at half by the Seahawks defense. I don't think he was particularly impressive at all. No, he wasn't. I'm not saying he was. He had 120 yards. They somehow only sacked him once. His arm had no juice. Every single ball was like a two of fucking under

hand lob to the wide receiver. It was remarkable. He wasn't picked off 10 times. I got it. I mean, I was pretty impressed. I can't believe he went out there and did that. Yeah, yeah. It looks his passes look slower than the speed of smell. His passes looked like they wouldn't get a ticket in a school zone.

I actually, the only time I've ever wanted the next gen stats tracking on the passes, they didn't have them for me. I wanted to know how fast the things were going. But I can't, he completed 18 passes in this game and they weren't all screens. Like he was throwing further downfield that I thought, I don't think you could throw 35 yards anymore down.

I don't know. I, it did look like things were in slow motion. There was, even the runs, like some of the wider runs, like him even just getting the ball to Jonathan Taylor on time, like running to hand the ball off, like even that was a step slow. Having said that, I don't know how you can come away with anything other than like, yeah, this guy came in at five days notice and he had played football in five years and he almost won the fucking game.

Like, I was not passing with flying colors. I think that's the other thing that we just, like, didn't really mention a lot because we weren't quite sure if he was going to play it up. But, like, he literally got signed a few days ago. Like, he barely, barely got even to Indianapolis before he freaking started for them. Brutal stretch for him coming off Thanksgiving where he probably ate so much. He was in full dad mode. Oh, my God. I mean, he was popping out of that jersey.

I mean, he looked like a, like a dad at a corporate kickball game out there. He was a walled at a girl. Dude, he was having a fucking, he was a pagan shit today. He was having a blast. He didn't give a shit if they won or lost. He was just happy to be there, happy to be complete and passes. He really seemed like he was having a great time. Boys night out.

He was like, he's at home with his 10 fucking kids. He's like, I can't, this is great. I came back to the NFL for some peace and quiet. This feels great. I'm loving this. It's amazing. I think he dyed his hair. His hair is really smooth brown.

Did you guys check that? A really rich light brown. color on film. I'm curious. You're probably right. That's actually probably what he was doing during the week. He's like, I can't let him see how gray I am. I saw a tweet about Rivers that I'd like to recite to you guys about how old he is and how

long he's been in the league and what this day signified. Philip Rivers completed his first NFL pass 21 years ago when he replaced a now 63-year-old Doug Flutie in the second half of a game played in a stadium that no longer exists for a team that no longer exists. He played today. Love that. Almost won. Almost one.

I'm just, I think that Rivers is a winner, even if the Colts are a loser. I think Blake Groupie's a winner for making that kick, even though they lost the game. I don't know. I'm blood on. I don't know if the cults are going to win a game the rest of the year. But my friend, Em, on a Saturday, we had a Christmas party. And she just was like, so why is this happening? How is there's nobody else?

There's nobody else that other than this 44-year-old guy who has played in five years. And she was like, why? And I don't, I'm curious you guys think. The best answer I could give was basically just the bar for, just knowing what you're doing. Yeah. Just you'd be shocked how much the physical abilities are completely irrelevant of the younger players

if they can't actually identify anything within four seconds, that it doesn't matter. Because once you go down to the fourth string quarterbacks, I guess even past Riley Leonard, it's like Brett Rippin, those guys' physical skills, they don't have reps, like it doesn't matter if they're a little bit younger if they have no idea. And Rivers, just being able to identify, like cover three, oh, they switch that post snap.

Oh, it's that. I'll just throw it there. even if it's going at the speed of smell, he can make up the lack of velocity on his freaking passes because he can throw it a second earlier, which is why it makes up because it actually is taking a full second longer to get there. What's the speed of smell expression that you're saying? Did you make that up or is that?

It's from a Ron White joke like 25 years ago that I was stuck with me. Oh, yeah, Ron White. Remember that guy? That guy's like straight. Human whiskey, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He would just straight. Dude, the Redneck Comedy Tour,

I had that on an iTunes gift card bought the Redneck Comedy Tour with Ron Wayne. He had a good joke with the speed of snow. He was like in that, I remember as a kid growing up, it was like, it was Jeff Foxworthy and like Ron White and Lewis Black. Larry the cable guy. Larry the cable guy. He was like all those. Bill Engval. Bill Engval. Yeah, he had a TV show.

I had the Jeff Foxworthy books. Like you know you're a redneck if or whatever. Man, I don't remember any of them. Bill Engval had the here's your sign. It's good. You know us about the Redneck Comedy Tour. Hey, my intrusive thought, I want to skip ahead just briefly because I had one during this game that I want to talk about right now. The C-Arts Colts game with Phil Rivers, to me, that final possession where the Colts had to march down the field and kick a field goal. And they did.

And Groupie hit a six-year-old. My intrusive thought was like, this to me, this to me shows that the field position situation in the NFL has gone too far and we need to pull back. Make a longer field? Yes. Or no, it's the field position. We can't be getting the ball at the 35 anymore. Philip Rivers, 44-year-old Philip Rivers, not being able to really throw the football, kind of easily was able to get into field goal range

against the Seahawks. And I'm like, I actually think I hate this now. Phil Rivers on that drive had two passes for 19 yards, and Jonathan Taylor had three carries for seven yards. And that was enough to tie the game in dramatic fashion. And I just hate that. I don't like it. I agree.

And I think that we just, the answer is we have to bully the NFL because if we tell the NFL that field goals are just participation trophies now and it's part of their like Snowflake culture, then the NFL, they'll get all offended and be like pull back. But you're right, because it's a 26-yard drive puts them in field goal position. And I think the key point is that this isn't, this is December. And this game was Blake Groupie, who is, I believe, the third kicker that Colts have had this year. he got cut by the Saints. So the third kicker the Colts had this year

made a 60-yard field goal by a lot. I think he hit the net. Like that was probably good from 63s, which again was the record. And it's the combination of they moved it up, but also they allow them to fuck with the footballs now. Like they can mess with them for like a full week. You can say massage the balls.

Why does they do that? Yeah, you're right. So the NFL has approved. The NFL is pro massaging the balls. Like that's the official policy now. And the ball massaging has led, to, you know, it's a completely new era. Yeah.

And it's like if we're, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, groupie's coming off, you know, waivers kicking 63 yard field goals while Philip Rivers only needs 25 yards to get down the field, I'm not sure what sport I'm watching anymore. And I, I, I, I, I don't like it. I think that they just can't let, they can't, we have to go, we, we, we, we have to stop massaging the balls, which I never thought I, you know, I never thought I'd say that. I'm just like, it used to be like, oh my God, you know, game, what, what, what a, what a game winning

drive is, is meaningless to me now. I'm like, Philip Rivers had a... You make two short completions. It was three rushes for seven yards, a three-yard pass, and then one 16-yard pass. I mean, anybody can do that. And just to belabor the point, because it gets worth it, I don't think people have any idea the difference when they get to actually break. This is what the Flakegate was about, but the kickers in particular, it's like a baseball mitt. When the football comes out of the packaging, it's like a baseball bet. A baseball player would never use a baseball mitt at the packaging. So it used to, it used to do. It's like a baseball mitt. So it used to be you get 90 minutes to fuck with the football.

So imagine a baseball minute after an hour. Nothing. You get a full week with like an equipment, like a full professional training staff. They could do whatever they get to make eight footballs for a week. They have machines. They have like- Why did they make this rule change? Because they want more points and it was a mistake.

Who wants more field goals? It's because there was allegations of like cheating. We already had, I think, more field goals last year than any other year ever. Who wants this? Is it like a big, big field goal lobby on this or something? something? What's the deal? Yeah, big field goal was like, let us massage the balls. But I think D-K, I think the answer is we have to stop massaging the balls. Is that correct? I agree. The other thing that, I think you brought this up is Mike McDonald on the Colts last

drive was calling time out. And I thought that was an interesting one. Not ever coach would maybe do that because it's like kind of helping the offense a little bit with their drive. It obviously didn't help the Colts that much before they hit that field goal. But it preserved enough time for the Seahawks to do their little mini drive back. So I thought that was kind of interesting too. Mike McDonald's shouted out. They have an analyst on staff named Brian, I think Brian Ayers, who basically was like, you should use the time it's now. Which if the Seahawks lost,

they would have gotten destroyed for this. But the Seahawks won because they used the timeouts in that spot. Yeah, they kept themselves. They had like a minute, over a minute to get to do their thing too. So what, like what now for Philip Rivers? Is he he didn't keep doing this? Or like he's going to play again? next week? Yeah, because I think the reason they signed him is Riley Leonard is a knee

injury and PCL injury. It's like Riley Leonard if he can't run, he's not a pocket passing quarterback. It's like Justin Fields. If Justin Fields can't run, what are you going to plan for? I kind of never considered the fact that this would continue. In my head, this is kind of like a one game thing. Craig's thinking this is going to be like the cold bucket, the cold plunge challenge. What is the bucket?

The ALS Ice Bucket Challenge? Yeah, the Ice Bucket Challenge. Philip Rivers is now going to now going to challenge Ben Rathesberger to come out of retirement. next week. Brady's like, no one's tagging me. Cam Newton's like,

why is no one tagging me? You know Brady was pissed watching these games today and be like, God, I could be doing this right now. I mean, people making fun of me for how terrible I am at announcing.

How many other quarterbacks in their mid-40s could have put up 16 today? Like, is it a decent amount now? Like, I think Brady, Kim Newton was like,

I could do this and watch the game. I'm like, you know, maybe Kim could do it even though he can't throw. Could he like the Peyton Manning thing?

He couldn't throw towards the end of his career. No, Braid, no, I, Peyton could not. I kind of, you know, I kind of think Eli could. I was just about to say, part of me thinks Eli could pull it out of it. He's the same age as Phil. Yeah, they're the same draft. I don't think Eli is remotely in shape, though.

Or studying NFL offenses. Would you guys watch like a, you know that three-on-three basketball league that like, did Ice Cube start that, whatever it's called? The big three? Were they the trampolines? No, that's slam ball, which was phenomenal. And I can't believe that never works. If the people in the big three played slam ball, they would all be dead.

Slam ball is sick. But would you guys watch like a 40 and up retired Hall of Fame Football League where it's like the seniors tour? It's like Eli Manning playing seven on seven. Would you guys watch that? Old guy seven on seven? I think I would. Maybe it's flag football. I mean, yeah, probably.

Yeah, right? That's kind of interesting. Old guy flag football. Dude, Kurt Warner would take that so seriously. That should be the Pro Bowl. it should be the old bowl. And it's just all the old guys. That's how they should decide who gets the number one spot in the announcer rankings.

Troy Aikman. The announcers have to play. It's like a play in tournament. Yeah. Al Michaels is, what is he playing? He's like blue. Out Michaels,

we're going to have to sunset out. You're my boy, Blue. We have to sunset, Al. I'm a little worried about it. The Falcons came back from 28 to 14 in the fourth quarter and they hit the field goal and it sounded like an extra point. Al Michaels was like,

oh, He was just thinking about that steak. He's going to get after the game. He's like, Jamir Gibbs, 80-yard touchdown. God. Anyway, yeah, that's pretty good. That Pro Bowl announcers have to do it. Okay.

I want to see if Aikman can still spin it, you know? They asked Akeman. Scott Genn Pell asked Akeman if he could still throw. And Trey Kman just looked at him and didn't say anything. I bet he can. I want like a combine for old athletes. You should have to submit your 40 time to retire. You can't file your paperwork

until you have to run, do the combine again to leave. Okay, we have to get to the winners or losers here, the rest of the everyone else here. So, the elephant in the room, Patrick Mahomes towards ACL, Michael Parsons, towards ACL. Kind of a downer of a day overall, not going to lie.

For many reasons, certainly. Chiefs lost 16 to 13 to the charges. The Chiefs officially eliminated for the playoffs. I don't, I don't know. Is it aggressive? I don't know, D.K. I feel like Patrick. the first half of Patrick Wilms's career just officially ended today?

Yeah, I mean, it does feel like the closing of a chapter, certainly. I mean, Travis Kelsey is going to probably retire, I would assume. And if you just like look at what this, like getting eliminated from the playoffs, like what this is relative to basically every other season that Patrick Mahomes has been a starter. It's crazy. 10 straight playoff for the chiefs, 10 straight playoff appearances, nine straight division titles, five Super Bowl appearances in six years with three wins. This is the first time Mahomes has not made the playoffs.

It is just kind of crazy when you realize that this is, I don't think the end of an era. I don't know if era is the right word because Mahomes is still going to come back and he's still going to be really good. I don't think Andy Reid is going to retire. But yeah, I mean, it's pretty massive disappointment for the chiefs who have just been absolutely dominant for 10 straight years. It's the end of the first chapter of Mahomes. There's now going to be a clear delineation of how people discuss his career where it will be like, from getting drafted to age 30, and then however long he plays,

whether there's two or three more chapters like Brady. But speaking of Brady, this, so with Mahomes now ACL out, chiefs are not making the playoffs, this is going to be the first AFC title game without either Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady starting a quarterback since 2010.

Whoa. When it was Mark Sanchez versus Ben Rothesberger. And the only reason why Brady wasn't in that game is because he tore his ACL, which is funny because now Brady and Mahomes have both torn their ACL in their ninth season. Hmm. And they had three super wins before they did that.

Yeah. I think they were the same age, too. Probably similar, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. I mean, I do think that the, it's probably aggressive to say end of an era. It was the end of an era when, like, Brady

and Eli and Rivers and Rathusburg are all retired. So I think the same way, like when these guys are gone, that's the end of an era. But, it does feel like, I know I've said this for a few weeks now, but there is,

we are absolutely between waves, where the Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson dominance in the AFC. It's, that is obviously just over. Like I, you know, Josh,

I mean, I don't even know if Lamar is going to make the playoffs. Burrow got eliminated today with the Bengals. The Chiefs got eliminated today. But then we still are about to see Drake May, Bo Nix, you know, all these other guys,

you know, Jordan Love, obviously it's the NFC. But I, it just, we're in between, just eras of quarterbacks right now. But it's weird because in the past, when it's been like the changing of the guard,

it's when Ben Rothesberger was 37. Like Josh Allen and Lamar, these guys are like 28, 29, 30 years old? Like in theory, this should not be a passing of the torts. This should be just more competition. They're not gone forever, but they're just all having completely off-seasons

at the same time. And they're all kind of having, it's like midlife crisis, I guess, for all of these guys right now. They're all just kind of like, I don't know what's going to go on next. It's also a lot of guys who are mobile. And it's like, I wonder what,

I mean, Josh Allen is still looks fantastic. So it's not him we're talking about. But like, it'll be interesting to see how Lamar and Josh and a lot of these mobile guys get into their early to mid-30s and see what happens. The Packers, I mean, Micah Parsons out for the season of the ACL, Christian Watson, we don't know exactly what the diagnosis. You might now, you might have it by the time you listen to this, but certainly looked like he broke his collarbone. He was listed as a chest injury. He went to the hospital. James Palmer at Enfell Network reported or James Palmer report, I think Underdog now reported that Christian Watson went to the hospital.

an ambulance. So I don't know what the deal is. I don't think Christian Watson's playing anytime soon. So he's their most explosive player on offense and frankly their best offensive player other than Jordan Love. Zach Tom, the right tackle, got it re-injured today. And then Michael Parsons, I'm like, that's two of their best, three of their best six players, honestly, for Green Bay. All kind of left this game hurt for some amount of time.

Yeah, the Watson play looked like Mike Evans earlier this year. Yes. Those collarbone plays are just unavoidable. I mean, it's such a natural way to fall. And it's really brutal. awful for him who like looks fantastic coming back from a late ACL tear last year super brutal huge win for denver i mean they're my winner of the week bo nicks winner of the week like so they won 3426 they clinched the playoffs the broncos are now 12 and two they've won 11 straight which ties a franchise record 10 of those

12 wins are one score uh they've now beaten the eagles cowboys texans chiefs and packers um and bo necks looks like great today. Just across the board has that, he has that a little bit of Josh Allen. Like, it's late in the game. He's going to make something work. Right. Like out of structure stuff, he's really good.

He was awesome. Making things happen. Yeah. Like his mobility is so fluid. He has like legit speed and wiggle. And it feels like these quarterbacks, like Caleb is a little bit like this too where it's like they are not run first,

but when they need to run, they can really run. And Josh is like that much more now than he used to be. But Bo is doing a lot of, I mean, a lot of great touch passes today. Like him to Cortland Sutton, a couple really nice plays. The touchdown to Troy Franklin was really nice. Very methodical down the field.

I thought he was as impressive as, I think it was probably the best game of his career. He had a couple throws that could have been intercepted that weren't by Green Bay. But he's just like tremendous in the fourth quarter. Even in fantasy, he averages the second most fantasy points in the fourth quarter this year behind Josh Allen. Yeah, man. I think this was a statement win. For sure. They were underdogs.

This is what we were talking about Thursday. They were underdogs at home. This team was 11 and 2 underdogs at home. Yeah. I think obviously the Packers are a really good team. And it was a back and forth game, really fun game, but they stayed competitive all the way throughout.

And I don't know. To me, it's just like, it's the statement is stop pretending or stop ignoring us, stop pretending like we're not a real contender in the AFC. You know, they are the legit winners of this division. And I don't know. I think this is like, I'm certainly taking them a lot more seriously after this game.

Not that I wasn't, like, impressed with them before, but it just feels like an announcement that they are a legit contender for the Super Bowl now. Bonix ties, Big Ben, Andrew Luck, and Dak Prescott now for the second most quarterback wins in the first two seasons of his career. I mean, I'm sure he'll, he has three more games against the Jags, the Chiefs, without Mahomes and the Chargers. So I'm sure they're going to win at least two of those. I thought the Broncos completely ran away with it. Honestly, the moment Michael Parsons got hurt. Michael Parsons got hurt on, I think, the second to last play of the third quarter, or the third to last play.

He had five pressures in the third quarter alone. And then two plays later, the Broncos scored touchdown. And then they scored touchdown the next drive and they score 14 points. So I don't want to grade it on a curve because it's more like, it was pretty ruthless and they kind of stepped on Grebe's throats the moment Michael Parsons went out of the game. I think you certainly are going to see that with the greenbies. based defense the rest of the way.

But I don't know if we really reckon with the, and I know Broncos fans are light years ahead of us in this, but I think this game was a reminder of Sean Payton has a top four defense of the NFL. But like when the offense gets rolling, it's like, oh my God. And I think that the, it still looks hard for them at times. There are still so many moments that Sean Peyton takes so long to read the play call.

The Bo Nicks like loses his mind that happened on the first drive of the game. They have the longest play calls. Yeah. Well, it's because he is the longest play calls left. And frankly, Sean Peyton is, I don't know what's going on with them, but I mean, he just speaks slower now. Like we went to the combine. He speaks like he's 63 and not.

What happens when you get older? And so he just, I honestly, like his long play calls. It takes him a second longer to think. But other than that, there are still, you know, stops and starts. But I thought Bo Nix, I agree, Craig. I think it was the best game he's ever played. And I mean, the touchdown throw to little Jordan Humphrey, it was actually kind of like Caleb Williams,

where I've made a lot of fun of Bo Nix of not having the arm talent of Caleb Williams, but he threw it into his window. And I'm like, that should have got an intercepted. And I remember thinking it was the kind of that if Josh Allen did it or Caleb Williams did it, I would have been like, oh, that's a bad decision, but it's really cool that you could do that because you're really talented, really talented arm.

And then Bo Nix did it. And I was like, oh, fuck, it's like the HR meme. I was like, oh, I guess when he does it, I have to admit it's cool now. Yeah, and like, I know everybody, the naysayers will say that the, you know, the one score wins are bullshit, chiefs last year, hopefully.

We can talk about that next year. Now it's cool. Also, like, there's something to winning close games over and over and over, teaches you something. You become comfortable in that environment where it's a playoff situation and it's a close game in the fourth quarter

and something that Bo Nix has done every week for the last 10 weeks. And so even if it's like they don't deserve to be winning and this team maybe is a little bit outperforming what their record should be, whatever. Like Bo Nix is getting the experience

of basically a playoff situation every single week. And the Broncos defense was great in this game. Patrick Sertan changed the game. Patrick Sertan, that enters, I mean, in more... That was a crazy interception. Amazing.

That was the play that Christian Watson got hurt. He landed on Watson and kind of landed on him. Made the injury worse. But it was a great interception by Sartan. And like that completely changed the game. If Watson had come down with that. But yeah,

but I think Bo Nix was unbelievable in this game. Honestly, I probably raised the tier of quarterback Bo Nix is in my head. Like I... Well, I think if you look at it, obviously people are still, I don't know if they're convinced on Bonax or not,

but the way that the Broncos are built, they can win. They can win it all in this type of season where Mahomes is gone. Burroughs not making the playoffs. LeVar, I don't know what's the deal with them. But they have a really strong defense. They have a creative run game. They've got a couple explosive runners.

They have a ton of weapons on offense. This is obviously something that I complain about all season from a fantasy point of view. But like every week, they have some new guy. Michael Bandy scored a touchdown today. I don't even know who that guy is. Michael Bandy is probably the least athletically gifted wide receivers still in the NFL. And they got him a touchdown.

Your boy, Lil Jordan Humphrey, scored a touchdown. They just, and Troy Franklin looked great. I thought Martin Mims had a couple of nice plays. They've just got a lot of different ways to beat you. They have a really good pass rush. They have a really good secondary. You know, this is a team that is on paper built to win it all.

And their quarterback has been playing really well late in games. So, I don't know, like, that's the equation you really want. All of the, all the other winner out there is the people who bet on Sean Payton this week and, like, started all these Broncos players. R.J. Harvey had a touchdown, 70 yards. Cortland Sutton over 100 yards in a touchdown. Troy Franklin, 85 yards in a touchdown. Everybody who you needed to play well for Denver,

if you were starting them in fantasy, did. Well, obviously. One final, fuck you to me. I know. One final, fuck you. I will say, though, to your point, though, D.K., about the Broncos and being a Super Bowl team, if we actually believe the thing we say all the time,

which is defenses win championships, the best defenses we've been saying the whole year, basically, are the Houston Texans, the Seattle Seahawks, the Denver Broncos, and the Browns who don't really count. And I think the short, version is I think I trust Bo Nix more than I trust Sam Darnold for Seattle to win a game late and I trust Bo Nix honestly

more than I trust D.J. Stroud to not screw things up, which I never thought I would have said at the beginning of the year. But I do trust Bo Nix more. They have a better run game than those teams too. Yeah. And Green Bay is off the list now like with Micah. Like Michael Parsons changed everything about that team and like everything that he fixed

is now unfixed. Like the lack of cornerback depth. I mean all they've talked about is how he made all the other defensive linemen on Green Bay better. because they all could slot into different things. And now it's like, oh, a lot of Lucas Van Ness. So tough for Green Bay. I mean, there's a lot of incredible performances today.

You want to the Rams Lions game first or Bill's Patriots? Yeah, I mean, I think we could talk about the Rams, absolutely just continuing to be a buzzsaw, beating the Lions. 41 to 34. Second straight game. I think I saw this on the game broadcast, 40 plus points and 400 yards in back-to-back games. 520 yards in this one. They averaged almost eight yards for play. So yeah, their offense is still doing pretty well.

I saw this from, hold on, Al Carston, and this was about the run game. The Lions run defense allowed a 69% offensive rushing success rate against the Rams. So the Rams had a 69% success rate on the ground, which is the worst mark Detroit has ever had in 86 games of the Dan Campbell era. This is the sixth most efficient rushing performance for the Rams under Sean McBay. And, you know, they just have, again, multiple ways, beat you, a really good defense, a totally

dominant run game. And then they have Matt Stafford just throwing freaking lasers to Puka Nakua, who's an absolute maniac. Devonthe Adams did get hurt in this game. So that is something to be watching going forward, especially this Thursday against the Seahawks. I mean, he's not playing. He's not playing. I mean,

yeah, he's very unlikely to play in this next game. I feel like he's not going to play to the playoffs at best. Yeah. So that is, I guess, like one sort of wrench in their plans, but man, the Rams just like absolutely freaking dominant again. I mean, Also, Puka, who was fantastic today. Puka was just out of control.

I don't know how he's always open. I mean, he has like the determination of a pit bull. Even though he's not open. He's just freaking mossing people every time. It feels like he just has more energy than every other player in the field. He has like 110% energy capability and everybody else just has 100. And he can just outwork people. He had nine catches, 181 yards today.

And in the fourth quarter, caught some pass, was fighting for yards, looked like a normal play. His teammate lifts him up. and then he just falls back to the ground like a sack of potatoes. Oh, yeah. You assume he suffered some horrific injury that's the classic Puka experience. Definitely assuming they were out,

he was out for the rest of the game. I mean, it was the fourth quarter. They were winning the game already. And then of course, like five minutes later, Puka comes back. They throw him a screen pass for like two yards. And he has to basically drag himself off the field to get to the sideline because he re-agravated it.

Every time, I swear to God, I don't know if this is actually true, but every time he gets hurt or goes to the blue tent, or gets like hobbled or whatever. Immediately upon reentering the game, Sean McGee calls like a sweep with him carrying the ball and he just gets fucking clobbered.

It's like, get back out there and make sure you get hit real hard, pal. He's... He had the most yard, career high receiving yards today. The 181 is the entire career. I mean, I think Puka and Jackson Dart are like the Blue 10 All-Stars. Yeah, man. Like they lead the league in the blue 10. And the stats, yeah, plays called directly for them right after cutting back on the field after the blue tent, you know.

No one beats Darden, Pooka and Kua. It was amazing. I mean, McVeigh, I mean, look, he's properly rated. Like the amount of times he gets Pukinikua in the game. This game was crazy. The Lions Rams, I said that there, I said, I thought to be 70 points in this game. There were 75 points in this game. There were 500 yards in the first half between the Lions at Rams, which is the most any game has had in any half all year.

I believe the team, the other game that had 500 yards and a half was the Lions versus the Giants, because the Lions have really replaced the Bengals in Dallas as the true Rainbow Strip team of, like, lions are going to put up points and get scored on. So you had a perfect, a real fantasy football matchup where a Monracee Brown ends up being the number one receiver on the day. Puka Nukua ends up being the number two receiver on the day.

Jameson is the number three receiver on the day. And then Colby Parkinson, the tight end for the Rams is the number two tight end on the week. I don't know who's number one. We'll get to that. But it's just a crazy situation where they, Karin Williams has two touchdowns. Like everything about the Rams and Lions, it just,

it was amazing. But also it was another. Two teams with good quarterbacks who can execute the play calls from really good play callers. It just, I just love the combination of play callers, quarterbacks, and skill players. And they're all fucking good.

And it just works every game. It's so fun to watch. I will say, though, it was the latest version of every time you watch it. You're like, I do see why Sean McVeigh swapped out golf for Stafford. Like, you do see it when these teams play.

And with the exception of the first driver, Stafford had the dumbest interception in the entire week, were just like total autopilot just through a screen. It just wasn't looking. And Aiden Hutchinson was just there and caught it. Oh, yeah. And then the Lions went down and scored literally the next play. And honestly, if that hadn't happened,

it wouldn't have been quite as close. Like, they just spotted them seven. It was kind of like the Vikings Cowboys game tonight, where they won by eight. But in reality, like J. G. McCarthy just threw a pick and then they scored two plays later on a fake field goal or where they got, you know, without that, it was kind of like that lines Rams. So the Rams, I mean, 4134, this was just another, like Buzz saw D.K. That is the right word for the Rams. I mean, geez, man. Nobody can stop this team. They're the number one seat in the NFC. And they're probably going to keep it that way.

Like, you know, they'll probably hold on to it. The team that could not hold on to it for right now is the Patriots. I at first I had New England Patriots is my winner today when they went up 21-0. I wrote in the dock, the Patriots are going to win the Super Bowl. I wrote in my notes. My Bill's fans,

my Bill's friends were texted me saying they want everyone fired in the off-season and they can't believe. And basically I literally wrote down in my intrusive thoughts. The bills wasted the only five-year window from 2000 to 2040 where the Patriots were bad. And the bills did not.

And now they're fucked. And then of course, Josh Allen gets. 28 points in the second half and they come back and win the game 34-31. But I, you know what? Like, it was pretty crazy. Like the moment where the Patriots were up 21-0. There were a bunch of streaks in this game and everything, but I don't know. Honestly, no one sum did it better than Mike Vrabel after the game where they were like,

what did you think of Josh? He's like, what do you want me to write you an essay about the MVP? They're like he's 6-5, 240, he's fast, he's big, he's strong, and he gets paid $60 million a year. He's virile too now. Proving. Very virile. Confirm.

That's right. strength. DK, do you think that played a factor? It did, for sure. Changes your perspective of the world, you know? Does that happen when she's pregnant or when it's born? Because I've heard it both ways.

When it's born. Well, I didn't want to gender the unborn baby. There's literally no gender yet. I don't know. Well, you could have said when they're born. That's true. That would have been less weird. Anyway, yeah. I think it's more when they're born.

I've heard from all the dads to be like, yeah, pregnancy doesn't really do anything. You hold the baby. You're like, oh, fuck. This is real. This is real. This is real. But yeah, man, I had the same thoughts. I was like, why were we talking about that the bills were going to win this game? Like on our previous show, we were just like, oh, yeah, the bills will win. I'm like, what were we thinking? This Patriots team is really good. This is a statement for them, too. Like, they are just absolutely coming out and dominating the first half. And then, of course, the bills just chipped away. I always respect a team that. that when they're down big,

they just chip away at stuff and just kind of keep at it. Like that is always the sign to me of like a mature team. But Josh Allen did a really good job of that. Can I on one note on that? Just the game management that I think was excellent by Buffalo.

And just the first 25 minutes of this game, the bills had negative net passing yards. They had 10 forward yards and lost 12 on sacks. So they literally were net negative passing yards. But they dominated the middle eight because they went down and the bills went and got a touchdown on both sides of halftime. And the Patriots got a field goal.

So they went up 14, 3 in the middle 8. And then they got 28 second half points. So they were very methodical with the clock and the drives, which I think Brable's miss. But you're right. The game management is great. And it's just, I just feel like a lot of teams,

it would be easy to kind of just throw up your hands and sort of mail it in the rest of the game when Trayvion Henderson's like ripping off 50-yard touchdowns and stuff. But yeah, obviously the bills are a good veteran team with good leadership. So I'm very, very impressed by them. And then obviously they still have a chance to win the division now. Like it's just, it's still Patriots in their favor,

but I guess it's just not over yet. The Patriots would have clinched the division if they won today. And in theory, the bills can still win. But the problem is that the Patriots schedule is so freaking easy. Because the Patriots final three games, right. It's unbelievable to look at it.

They play the Ravens, but then it's like Jets, dolphins. So if the Patriots lose to the Ravens next week, it's like more possible. But if the Patriots beat the Ravens next week, it's pretty difficult. So we'll see.

But the bills could win out. and still win the division. I do you want to just say a couple things from this game that are unbelievable to me. One, just the fantasy aspect, Drake May, they had 20 fantasy points at halftime. He had two rushing touchdowns. The play down when, well, Trayvion Henderson had the big run

and Drake May was the lead blocker on the play. Like, that was pretty sick. And when the Patriots seemed like they were going to win, that was, I thought that was like, one of the more defining moments of the whole Pat season was Drake May blocking, like, the lead blocker on like a second effort play. But just was also a huge week for Trayvion Henderson, the number three running back on the week.

James Cook was number one. And then Henderson's three. He had 29 points. Travian Henderson 160 yards from scrimmage, two touchdowns. And this one blew my mind after months of us just bitching that he wasn't playing. Travion Henderson had four different runs this year of 50 yards, like four different 50-yard touchdown runs, which tied the rookie record for the most 50-yard rushing touchdowns ever in a rookie season. And there's three weeks left, which is pretty incredible.

It's Sequin Barclay stuff. Yes, but Sequin played the whole time. And also, New England keeps dropping offensive linemen every week. You know what I mean? So, I don't know. I'm pretty impressed. The Patriots snapped a 10-game streak where they had scored 23 points and held their opponents under 23 points for 10 games in a row,

which had never happened before in NFL history. So, I don't know. What does this do for your thoughts on the Patriots? Because I think we all kind of believe in Josh Allen and generally the bills. if the bills are that scary, but I definitely believe, like, Josh Allen can go Superman at any given point. How does this make you feel about the Patriots in terms of how real they are? I don't think any less of them because of this game, certainly. I think to me, this continues to show me that they belong in this conversation and that, like, this is a team that can win the

Super Bowl. It's honestly, they're kind of like the Bills. Like, they're just like this Drake May who kind of has, like, middling talent around him, a solid defense. And his, like, it's all just on him physically, like willing this team down the field every single drive. It's funny. I feel like I am watching the young Bill's when I, the young Josh Allen bills when I watch the Pats. Yeah, it's a great call. The May Josh Allen rivalry is going to be awesome.

It's going to be, I think, top tier for like the next few years just every time they play. It's funny because I also feel like the bills could have gone up 21-0 and then not been able to finish it out. You know what I mean? I would have been surprised if it had been reversed. But I could, Josh Allen, when the, the bills can, give up 185 rushing yards is four and two this season, which is preposterous. Like all the, like the Josh has three wins, or four wins this season when they give up 30 points.

It's funny that right now, if the playoffs started today, the Pats would be playing the Bills in the wildcard round. It's good that the bills won today because now we'll get the rubber match ideally. That would be great. And also, honestly, I think if the bills went out, Josh could still win MVP, which I was prisoner of the moment. I'm kind of watching this game. I'm like, this guy's probably the MVP. I still think it's going to be, it's got to be Stafford. I just, I will not talk anyone out of voting for Stafford. I just, if I had a vote, I look at it and I'm like, Stafford has Sean McVeigh, Pooka Nacuah, Devanti Adams. And I'm like, Josh Helen has, I mean, I actually got more of the ick watching Brandon Cooks have meaningful snaps for the bills today than I did watching Phil Rivers for the Colts.

I'm like, how the fuck are the bills in the best setup they've ever had to win a Super Bowl is this season? And Brandon Cooks is playing a very important game for them today. How is that possible? Yeah. Josh Palmer's not cutting it, unfortunately. Brandon Cooks was on the rim six years ago. Like, and he would never touch. You think Sean McFey would let Matt Stafford anywhere around Brandon Cook?

Whatever, though. What? You don't give Jordan the MVP because he's got Pippin? Like, I don't, that's not how you should think about it. Well, yeah, but that, I mean, when they were winning 72 games, no one's winning 15 games this season. You know what I mean? I just, I think basically, but I think the way,

think MVP is flawed. I mean, the Rams are in 14 games, but yeah. I know. I just think sometimes, I guess I'm more open to like sometimes people should get credit for dragging kind of shitty operations forward. I agree with that. But I think, I don't know, Stafford is having an all-time season. And just because he has good receivers and a good play color to me. And I'm not saying that that's, I'm not saying that I'm not trying to disperch his name. I'm saying I think I slightly lean to he's like the second or dare I say maybe the third best player this year. That's, my issue with MVP is people are like, you don't like them, fuck you. They're just different

conversations. Who's the best player versus who's the MVP are weirdly different conversations? Yeah. I'm like, I think Josh Allen's better. But like, I think Matt Stafford's MVP. The I and become death Oppenheimer reward. We might have to rename this, Kyle Pitts. Do you think there's a chance anyone showed

Kyle Pitts everything I've said about him the last three weeks? No. Oh, okay. Well, Kyle Pitt, so the Falcons won on Thursday of football 29 to 28. Kyle Pitts, 11 catches, 160. 66 yards, three touchdowns, including the game-winning touchdown. So not only is Kyle Pitts, like, the resounding, I mean, Kyle Pitts had 40 fantasy points in half PPR, 45 and a half in full.

Playoff matchups were over, like halfway through Thursday. Anyone who played Kyle Pitts, yeah. Yeah, you were just, if you played a game, she were fucked. Hayden Winks had a great stat that 7% of Kyle Pitts's career fantasy stats just came on Thursday. Oh, no. Danny Hyphitz had a great stat that no one cared about as much, which is 21 percent of his career touchdowns were in that game.

Oh, yeah, because he's, yeah, he's just never scoring touchdowns. A fifth of all of Kyle Pitts's touchdowns were just on Thursday. Do you guys know that right now, Kyle Pitts is only three months older than Travis Kelsey when he caught his first NFL pass? Dude, generational prospects are back, man. Between Trevor Lawrence and Kyle Pitts,

like, this is why you don't give up on people. There's been an entire book. written on Kyle Pitts and yet he is the same age as when Travis Kelsey got his first NFL past. There's been an entire life cycle of Kyle Pitts. This is why it's almost like the Patrick Mahomes thing. Like the the first era of Kyle Pitts is over. This is the new era. This is the donning of the second era. The new age. Craig watches Lord of the Rings in two weeks. It's going to be like, the dawn of bed is over. The, are we getting an email from Peter? Yeah. We have to eat. We have to, an email from Peter. Pete. Pete. Peepum.

Peter writes, we have a new category, two tight ends who have never outscored Kyle Pitts's 45 PPR points and a lie. Oh, 45, okay. These are three players, two players who have never had 45 and a half PPR points at 45 points in a game. All-time performance. That's a full-point perception.

You know what this teaches you? Every time there's a Bucks Falcons game, start everybody involved. Those games are always nuts. There you go. It's true. I've been telling you he does look different. I don't think this is that fluky.

What? Because he's in the end zone? No, he just looks faster to me. He looks more explosive. What we're learning is is when we do our memento tattoos soon. It is that it's not the year after the year after, it's the year after the year after. Is when you start to feel good.

And that's where Kyle Pitts is right now. What do we do with our memento tattoo that says Kyle Pitts murdered my family? I legit don't know what to do with Kyle Pitts next. going to sign with the Chiefs. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be all in on him. He's a free agent. What's the opposite of fart or sharp? That's the category we need for next year, because that's what this is.

This is like, what are we calling it? Come or slum? I don't know. Come or bum? I don't know. Okay. Keep working. Keep workshop on that.

Okay. We're bum. Yuck or yum? I don't know. But there's, what do you have? So you're trying to say, is this for real? Yeah. Yeah.

The funniest thing you've ever said to me, Craig, was you were like, sometimes a bad cum is worse than a good pee. Yeah, for sure. You're like, a good piss can be better than a bad pig. Don't docks me like, did I say that on the pod or is that private? No, it's what I'm saying. We can cut this if you want. We can bleep it.

But I'm just saying, if you want a category, like, that could be the category. You can bleep it and then people have to guess are the funniest thing you've ever said. It's bad cummer, good pee. Back come or good piss. I don't know which is which. I don't know which is which either. The point. I don't even think it applies to this situation,

but I'm happy you brought it up. Do we cut this or do we bleep it and let people guess what the funniest thing you've ever said is? No. No, we can keep it. People are an hour into the week 15 recap. They deserve it. It's like actually just like a six out of ten on what Craig has said before.

I feel like. I think it's just like the phrasing of it sounds good. A bad cum. Sometimes a great piss is better than a bad come. It's just, it's just. Oh my God. That's real. That's real life.

You know what I mean? That's addressed the truth. That's real. Oh, my God. Anyway, co-pits. Copa's going to make 40 million more dollars now because of this game. You think he's going to be on the Falcons next year? what is the franchise tag for a tight end is not very much

that's a good point he's probably going to be on the falcons so yeah they should shackle him for one more year because they pick this is his fifth year correct they picked it up yeah so i dick is right because the tag is probably i can look it up it's probably like $10 million oh is it okay look it up if it's i think it's cheap because he's a receiver and like he he would make what it what's kirk cousin's situation is he under contracts for next year Oh, yes. So the, oh, oh, my God, he's totally

13.8. Last year, they will definitely franchise tag. So the tag is going to, next year for Ted Ends going to be a little under 16 million. He's definitely going to get tagged because 2-2 Atwell got 10 million. I mean, who was the guy in the Jags sign? Diami Brown. Got $10 million.

10 million is a fucking drop in the bucket when you're a good receiver. So yeah, Kyle Pitts will get tagged for 16 million. And the Kirk Cousins, I think will be on the Falcons because Pennix got neat reconstruction. So, I mean, Kirk wants to start. like, they're going to get rid of Kirk. Kurt's not going to want to leave.

I think Kurt. My hot take is they need to keep Kirk and pits together forever. Kelsey. But then Drake, London's going to come back and you're going to be like, I don't know. Trade Drake. Let's be honest. We know what's going to happen. Trade Drake, London.

I'm just kidding. Build the ship out of Kirk and Kyle. What could go wrong? I'll tell you what's going to go wrong. I added Kyle Boots back in the Ringer League because I cut him out of spite and it was emotional about it. and I added him back because I was like,

I should be an adult about this. And I played him in my lineup this week, even though I had a first round by. And I was like, I'm adding Kyle Pitts back, but I'm not going to play him. Guess what? I'm going to play Kyle Pitts next week.

He's going to kill you. He's going to have no points. I'm going to lose. Correct. But what am I going to do? Ben, should we have to rank him? He's the top two. We have to rank him second or third next week.

What are we going to do? Dude, today in general was pretty nuts for tight ends that you probably didn't start. Outside of Tray McBride had 31 points. Tray McBride, every week has like, 25 points and nobody discusses it. He's been the best fantasy player this year that nobody's talking about.

Speaking of, we need to keep Chicobe and McBride together forever. Build a ship. Only them. And Trey. Yeah, Kyle Pitts, 40 half PPR points. Trey McBride 30. He had 134 yards and two touchdowns. Colby Parkinson, 22 fantasy points, two touchdowns.

He's the tight end four since week 10. He has six touchdowns over the last six weeks. Every single touchdown from him, there's only two kinds. they all look exactly like. They're just Stafford, like, does a fake left and rolls right, and Colby Parkinson just leaks to the right. And then the defense alignment's like, oh, shit, shit, shit, shit. And Colby Parkinson's wide the fuck open.

Can I just sneak in now and do my, the ref that pissed me off this week? Colby Parkinson's touchdown was one of the more egregious touchdown calls I've ever seen in my life. Like that he was down at the one. Like, I don't think I've, that is one of the worst calls I've seen. I feel like we say this every week. But that is one of the worst calls I've seen all year.

So to give, in case you missed it, basically he caught the ball at like the three yard line. It was a deep. It was like a 40 yard catch. Yeah. He fell down. He basically hit the ground at the one. Clearly.

What I think happened, what I think they decided happened was that he bobbed the football or something like that. He didn't get full control of it until he was in the end zone because he was clearly down and touched at the one, but the ball didn't hit the ground. And he was kind of like bobbling it a little bit. That's what I think they called. But it was like the whoever the. the referee on the broadcast.

Of course, disagreed. Was like, I'm speechless. I don't know how they called that a touchdown. Because you couldn't really see if the ball ever hit the ground, but they rule that he catches the ball, but then on the way down, starts to bobble the ball so that when he's touched and his knee is down at the one, it's not a catch yet.

He is still bubbling it. As he then hits the ground, slides into the end zone. That's when he then secures the ball and it's now a catch. This was one of those situations where they called it a touchdown on the field, and they were like, this is too hard. Let's just keep the call. Like his two hands firmly catch the ball. It wasn't a bobble the whole time.

It went from catch to bobble back to catch. It's bad. Every week there's a new case study and like the NFL did not see this coming. Some situation where they're like, oh God, this again, we'd have a whole new, very unique situation we'll never see again happens every single week. If he was juggling the ball the whole time, I get it.

His hands are on the ball. He catches it firmly. And then on the way down, as he's getting hit, it starts to loosen a little bit. And then I guess they continue that into the end zone and then he re-secures it. Before they called it a touchdown, the broadcast raff was like, the real question here is, was this a catch? Right.

And they decided it was not only a catch, it was a touchdown. Yeah, we'll just give them the extra yard. Why not? I love it. Love the NFL sometimes. The other really bad one was the Bill's Patriots game had the defensive past interference that was that they were like, you know what? we think the bills caught it actually

which was really strange bizarre that was that was that was one of those they called DPI on the guy even though he looked back and caught it it's getting more and then they gave it to the other team and call the penalty how many times he'd like he's making a play of the ball and you're like well he made a play on the ball

caught it he looked back and caught it and then they called DPI on him and said the other guy caught it you know it was bad because it's the first time I felt bad for Patriots fans and the referees in like decades like it was like oh that's pretty tough any other Oppenheimer's for you guys Trevion was mine

oh yeah he was great everything he does is just shot out of a cannon everything he does is something that Romandre Stevenson can't do it all right but also Trevion can't be like a high volume runner right like wouldn't you agree with that I don't think he could be like a 25 touch guy

I think he could I feel like they're different people but I feel like we said a little bit about that like with Jemir Gibbs. That's fair. That's fair. Henderson is smaller. The build is different. Yeah.

I don't know. I just think like having specific roles for Ramandri. I don't even like Ramandre. I don't think he's like anything special. But like having a specific early down grinder and slasher type is actually good for the Patriots. Grindr slasher fumbler type is good. Right. Yeah, you need someone to get the goal line touches that they might fumble.

because they legally get fubbles over a multi-year period. Trevion's got the juice, though. That's for sure. We got to talk about the Jags. I know. We're an hour in. We haven't talked about the fantasy. They might be for real.

Okay. They've played the Jets. They might be for real. They fucking destroyed the Jets. It's more than just today. It's more than just today. They're six and one in their last seven games. And Trevor Lawrence has cleaned up a lot of the issues that were really just driving us

insane for most of his career, or at least he has recently. So Trevor Lawrence today had six touchdowns. He actually did. I saw this on Twitter. I didn't actually confirm this is a real thing. He's the first quarterback ever. Well, it was from like a real account, so I assume it's real.

The first quarterback ever with 300 plus pass yards, five plus pass touchdowns, and 50 rush yards in a touchdown in the same game. So he had six touchdowns in this game. I also had that in my notes. And then I was like, you know, I bet Craig's going to make. fun of that stack. It's a very specific thing.

Yeah, it's very specific. I was like crazy to make funny which happens every single week. The first quarterback ever to have had five passing touchdowns with 300 yards. When it's below 32 degrees Fahrenheit. Whatever. The point is he had six fucking touchdowns. He was really good.

44 fantasy points. Just absolutely bananas performance. No one else had 30 at quarterback and Trevor Lawrence had 44 fantasy points. If you had Lawrence and Pitts, if you just we're a big fan of the, you know, the 2021 draft and you never give up.

You had a very good day. Honestly, it was probably a big day for the wild card spot in fantasy playoffs because I bet you a lot of these wild card teams are starting guys like Kyle Pitts and Trevor Lawrence. So good for you. He probably kicked the shit out of the two seed. Yeah, brutal day for them. You also probably had Travis ETA. Yeah.

Who had a real low day on the ground, 12 rushes for 32 yards, but he caught three passes, 73 yards and three touchdowns. He had 30 points and a half ppr. Only running back he scored more was James Cook. The story of this game, really, and the Jets are terrible, we know that. But it was Liam Cohen. You know the microscope meme on Twitter where it's like either Shanahan or whoever looks in the microscope and it's this one specific player?

It was like Liam Cohen just looking at the Jets linebackers. the the jags running back scored four touchdowns in the passing game today. They were just absolutely annihilating these linebackers in the passing game. So I think, you know, I said they might be for real. What I do think is this relationship is working with Trevor Lawrence, Liam Cohen, the offense that they have here. I think Liam Cohen is proving to me that he wasn't just like a flash in the pan with the Buccaneers. Like this is a real scheme that really works. And I think early on in the season, they were just really messing.

and it just took them a long time to kind of get it all installed and get the hang of it. But now we're starting to see like what this real offense can do. I think it's been a really good year for first year play callers. Liam Cohen, Ben Johnson, you have Clint Kubiak in Seattle, even like Schottenheimer in Dallas. There have been a lot of offenses that have either immediately clicked or have taken, you know, a few months to get going. And now they are kind of what we thought they were going to be at least a little bit.

Yeah. I mean, I was watching this game, honestly, and I was thinking how the bucks or sorry, the Jags wanted to hire Liam. And he was like, will you fire your GM? And they were like, okay. And I was thinking about how the Giants kept Brian Dable in a hiring cycle that had Liam Cohen, Ben Johnson, and Mike Vrabel. And I was like, oh, that.

And then I realized, you know what? None of them would have came to the Giants because the smart guys waited for good situations. Ben Johnson went to Caleb and Liam Cohen went to Trevor Lawrence and Mike Fribble went to Drake Bay. I was like, oh, the smart guys went to good situations. But this is why you don't give up on players. And Trevor Lawrence, I think two of the best, I think the last two or three

games have probably been the best two or three games of Trevor Lawrence's entire career. Travis CTN literally said that after the game. Travis CETN said I won a national championship with Trevor at Clemson and I've never seen him play like this. He's been unbelievable and frankly, I don't want to be a little reductive but it's a big, Trevor Lawrence has the fuck you attitude. And I think that's what was missing. I think that with Doug Peterson, I think that Trevor's or Trevor Lawrence had a a little bit of a reluctance to just be, at some point, become that more developed older quarterback and say,

I don't want to do this. I want to do this and take an active role in designing the offense. Instead of just, you know, when you're younger and you're younger quarterback and you're learning, you're like a good soldier, like, we're going to run this. And at some point, you get to that point in your physical prime where you're like, I want to do these concepts because I think this is going to work and this is what it's going to be comfortable with. And then combine that with what Liam Cohen was saying, which is like, he needs to go out and just play.

Stop worrying my consequences. Just fucking rip it. And it's like, D.K. joke about Baker. It's like, just go out there and rip it. And like, that is what Trevor's doing. Ripping passes. That's what Trevor's doing. It's ripping passes.

I want to shout out Derek Classen at the athletic football show with Mays. And Derek is amazing. And Derek nailed this. And I'd forgotten this. But Trevor Lawrence and Clemson was so good at rolling to his left and throwing, which is like such a barometer of physical talent. If you, like, Jalen, Hurts could never.

But it's like, Trevor Lawrence is so weirdly good. Jaylen Hertz is like, what the fuck? Yeah, the people go number one. Children, it's like what? Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence, like these freaks who go number one can just run to the wrong side, flip around. And Trevor Lawrence had a throw today to Parker Washington where he just ran backwards basically like he was Shador Sanders, like what Shadur thinks he is in his mind.

The Jets split seven people on a third and six. Trevor Lawrence just ran backwards to his left, turned around, and through the past went 50 yards. It was Tony Romo, like a Tony Romo play. where he spun out of it and then just chucked it to a spot and Park Washington ran under it. It was incredible. He ran backward to the 30 and threw it to the other 20 sprinting backwards to the to his offside.

And I just, you haven't seen that a minute until the last month or so. And it's funny because with Trevor Lawrence a couple weeks ago, went into the press conference and said the most self-worth thing all year, which is I don't think anyone will respect us because we're the Jags. But you know what? We don't care. I'm like, yeah, that's exactly what it is. but I'm like, he's, I couldn't be more impressed.

And I know it's the Jets, but also 48, it was 48 to 10 in the, like the beginning of the fourth quarter. Like they could have scored 60 if they wanted, which what else he's supposed to do against the bad team? He's in flow state. Sometimes you need that. Sometimes it's a real thing. It's like March Madness teams getting going and flacko in the playoffs and they win the Super Bowl. Sometimes you just need a couple good games in a row. You build your confidence.

And then all the physical tools that you have can actually start to kick in and it becomes natural. The AFC South, as much. much as we make fun of it is like so much better than what we thought the a fc north was going to be the a fc north is cool because you have lamar and burrow the stealers rogers the browns are like the weird derpy dragon and the meme but thank you for saying rogers is cool thank you for yeah well well i mean it's throwing you up on i mean now that stroud is there with like the best defense or like an elite defense and then you know loren's playing like this like it's actually pretty interesting you guys Liam Cohen wouldn't have came to the giants if they fired dable right

he wouldn't have came i don't have to worry about this No. Okay. No shot. Thanks. Cool. I feel better actually knowing that. Any other Oppenheimer's?

I want to shout out the Bears run game just quickly. The Bears boat race the Browns, 31 to 3. Another team that's like, they're playing a bad team. It doesn't necessarily mean that much that they beat the Browns, but this is what you're supposed to do to bad teams. They absolutely freaking dominated them. In an eight-degree Chicago day. I mean, I imagine every time you get hit, it just hurts like hell.

it's freaking cold. And the Bears rushed for 142 yards and two touchdowns on 33 runs. I just think the Bears run game is really cool. I think Dandre Swift actually looks really good lately. He's been making some pretty incredible plays. Maybe it's partly due to the scheme is just like perfect for what he does. But they're another team that just they have the foundation for they can run the ball. They take the ball away on defense.

And they have a quarterback that can kind of make some plays when the chips are all down. Like, like Caleb Williams has been. Kind of like Bo Nix this year where he's like really good in the fourth quarter when they really need a bucket. He can go out and get it. He's not necessarily been the cleanest quarterback all season. But, you know, he's been, he's been good enough. And they're 10, they have 10 wins this year. After the freaking, they lost 10 and a row.

After the offseason they had, I mean, this is pretty incredible what the bears are doing. I know that people don't necessarily believe in them, really. But Ben Johnson is fucking legit. This is a real, they're going to go to playoffs. And I think they're the type of team that could win a game in the playoffs. I very much believe in Ben Johnson and Caleb, but even if it doesn't happen this year, long term, I am buying stock for sure.

The Bears secondary, every individual player in there is cool. And again, big week for number one quarterbacks in the draft that we've tagged this generational with early struggles that then absolutely rocked a really, really horrible team. I mean, his throw to DJ Moore was, I don't even know how, I don't know if he meant to do that, but it was freaking incredible.

That was the longest I've ever seen a pass that worked. I didn't think the pass would work for 99% of the time. Like only when did you more land. He like emerged from the crowd. It was crazy. The whole time I was like, that was stupid. The other thing that I thought that was really funny about this game is there was

fucking pigeons on the field in that soldier field. You can't talk about the Browns that way. Almost the whole game. It was like they kept like getting scattered about like you're in St. Mark Square in Venice or something. It was like there's pigeons everywhere. They were just like eating the seeds or something. I don't know what that's going on.

Never seen that. Those city birds are built different. They really are. They don't scare them away. You can't scare them away. It's like when you're driving down the road and a crow is like eating some dead animal on the on the road and you're like, you have to like pull up and lay on the horn for them to leave. They're like, go around. Why are you honking at horns eating?

Why are you honking at crows? You just fucking run over a crow like nothing? I'm not going to just like run it over. Does it make you feel any differently knowing that they would run over you immediately? if they could? I don't understand. Makes me feel superior. You,

they just fly away. He's saying they don't. No, I'm saying sometimes they don't. The ones in the middle of the road, you don't think they fly away? Well, he said when they're eating something else, when they're eating,

they won't fly away. I've had to, like, slow down dramatically sometimes because I'm like, get the fuck out of the way. Have you ever thought you're training the crows to just alpha you? Okay. Never mind. If this is just going to squish him. He's New York.

The New York guy. Dude, the pigeons in New York, you can make contact with a pigeon in New York, it won't fly away. Dude, they, yeah, you can't. I'm walking here.

No, like, you could, like, kind of touch you with your shoe at, like, sitting outside of the restaurant, it kind of won't move. No. Yeah, you have to,

you don't have to kick it, per se. Do you know that, kind of guide it away with your... Heragrine falcons, which they reach, like, the fastest animals in the world, because they fly it,

they just dive bomb. They're more successful hunting in Manhattan than they are in the wild because there's so many fucking pigeons, So they just dive bomb with the... They just skyscraper dive bomb vertically, and they just eat pigeons on like the 40th floor

and all the skyscrapers. But they think they're... Oh, they dive bomb to the skyscrapers and grab the birds that are sitting on top of the skyscrapers? Yeah. They like use skyscrapers as covers because the pigeons aren't used to any like animals being able to get them like 30 or 40 floors up

and the falcons just crush the pigeons. This is like what happened with the bears today. The bears were just trampling all over these poor pigeons. Well, I mean, they should... Yeah. Now they know to get out of the way. Yeah. I wouldn't run over a crow.

I just feel like they fly away when the cars come. I'm not saying they don't all. They sometimes they do. Crows are smart. Yeah, I don't want to be on the wrong side of a crow. They recognize you. They remember you.

I saw this Instagram real of a guy who's training crows to give them money and bring money back. And also, like a crow, like you pulled it out and the guy, and the crow flew back with like a bunch of shit for him, got him a lighter. And the guy used the letter and liked it. So the crow kept bringing him fucking lighters.

I was like, thank you. So what I'm talking about. I'm not trying to run over any crows. It's so over, we're so back. I mean, generational prospects, certainly back between Trevor Lawrence and Kyle Pitts. You know, pretty big generational prospects are back. I also think defensive laterals are back.

Ooh. That was a good play. It was not even a lateral as a handoff. I went 50, I went 20 years wondering why Ed Reed and Ray Lewis were the only people who could do the coolest thing ever, which was getting a turnover and fucking pitching, running the option down the field.

Can I just say the Van Newey one was I think the Giants, one was cooler and more impressive and more coordinated and organized. There was multiple. One was a ladder. One was a handoff. That was so well done. That was amazing. It was cool.

I think I missed this play. What happened? I don't know if any of it ended up counting because I think they said that Abdul Carter was. Abdel Carter forced a couple fumbles, but they did. Abdel Carter and I think Javon Holland orchestrated. It was very like they kind of did like an old school Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, like, you know, circus act where they just ran the ball back like 50 yards by tossing it back and forth. It was like the Harlem Globe Trotters or whatever.

Yeah. Whereas the Van Nuoy one was the kind of like, I'm too old for the shit. Yeah, he's like, you just do take it. You fucking do it. It's like telling you to get a coffee. But the teams should do this more. I don't know why they don't. I don't know why they stopped.

So it's back. I agree. It's like the hook and ladder, which is like a little bit kind of a thing again. We need to bring back the handoff in the lateral. I think it'll be back now because it looked cool this. week. Teams are going to see it.

Any other? What else so back, Greg? A mini were so back, Brian Thomas, a little bit. Two good games in a row. Once again, much like Trevor Lawrence. It's like Kevin Neal and Happy Gilmore. Flow State, find it, harness it. Block out good.

Bring in, block out bad, bringing good. Like, he is kind of like, it feels like he has a little more confidence in his hands. When he caught the touchdown, I always like to look at what receivers do after they catch the pass or catch the touchdown. and like the anger that he let out, I like that. It showed me that he wanted it. You know what I mean?

Yeah, he cares. He cares. I think I'm going to be in on Brian Thomas next year. I think he's going to be a tremendous bylaw. I think that Liam Cohen tried using Brian Thomas almost like, for lack of a better example, like Chris Godwin, because Liam Cohen came from Tampa. And that wasn't right.

And they got Jacoby Myers. And Jacobi's more of like Chris Godwin guy. And Brian Thomas is closer to the Mike Evans. Yeah, just send him deep. Send him fucking deep, man. Send him home. Dingers. Send him home.

Send him home. His bags are back. He's got his airline ticket. TK., who else is back? Just want to shout out the saints who aren't that bad. They're not the worst team in the NFL. So are they back? What do you mean?

Not so bad? They're not back back, but they're not that bad, is what I'm saying. We're so back because remember how in the offseason I was like all about the Saints? because I was just trying to push back against the narrative. We're actually so back. We're so back that the Saints aren't that bad, if that makes any sense to you. I think I think Tyler Shuck leads the league in me thinking there's no fucking way they're going to get this first down. And they do.

And then he does. He's actually pretty fast. Yeah. He kind of scrambles around a lot. He's not that bad. I kind of felt this way like last year about Spencer Rattler. I was like, maybe Spencer Rattler's not that bad. And he ended up being terrible.

I think Tyler Shuck is by far the fastest quarterback I've ever seen who you. used like three medical red shirts in college. You know. Right. He set a new record this week for the fastest guy that had four medical red shirts in college. Do you guys, did you guys ever watch Beer Fest?

Yeah. You know the scene where they're like, and guess what? We're not that drunk. And then they just start sharing, we're not that drunk. We're not that drunk. That's kind of what I think of the Saints.

They're not that bad. They've won four games this year. Yep. They just beat. the Panthers who beat the Rams so by transitive property they're better than the Rams

sure is that the right is that the right term transitive property whatever they have the Jets, Titans and Falcons to finish out the year they could win seven games guys we can do this wait hold on let's do this so the Titans beat the Cardinals

who beat the Cowboys who beat the Eagles how high can we have who beat the Chiefs in the Super Bowl like by, I mean, they were up like 30 points in the Singapore. That was this year. It was this year. All right. This calendar year. So the Titans are maybe the best team. Super Bowl team? Yeah. Yeah.

The Panthers are having the weirdest season. Can we say it's so over for the Panthers? They lost the fucking Saints. Yeah. I mean, the bucks are hand delivering the division to the Panthers and they can't take it. They won't. They're like, no, I'm good. They're like, come in. You take it. You take it and run with it. I'm tired. If you just pull up the standings, it's like, You look at the AFC North and the NFC South, and it's like, again, it's the Derpy Dragon in the meme

where it's like, I mean, the Patriots have 11 wins and the Steelers have seven. And then it's like the same in the NFC where it's like the Bucks and Panthers are just tied at seven and seven. And the NFC West is the Rams and Seahawks both have 11 wins. And one of these teams is going to play a road game in the fucking playoffs with like 12 or 13 wins as a wild card. And then the NFC South is going to host a play out game.

I think the hardest decision of the offseason is what do you do with Bryce Young? I think it's the hardest quarterback decision because I think like Kyler Murray I think you don't want Oh they keep them But they keep them for a year But like dude That's brutal

Because he's like 10 million dollars I know But you're not You're not doing anything When I'm it's it Yeah it's like a purgatory situation Because they know I know

I know But like yeah You're just you're just entering another season knowing that this is not the guy I think that's okay though Because I think that the Panthers can build an infrastructure That someone else could work there

So it's like if you have Ted McMillin Jalen Coak is a good number two and then you have a pretty good offensive line that isn't that old actually. If you end up replacing like that's actually a pretty good environment for someone else to succeed. It's like actually they have a lot of young pieces there.

I know that's not that sexy, but... People are not patient. It's the thing. They're just going to go like seven and ten next year. And it's like, okay. We have to get to an important version of America's favorite segment right now. But, you know, it's pretty somber.

Fart or shart. It's kind of funky. Taking its time. This is baby making music. This is a John Mayer album? Body is a Wonderland. This is yacht rock. This is really good.

This is... This is a John Mayer album, I think. This is Christopher Cross. Yeah. I'm a street in the air tonight. Wow, there's a whole song here. I should have been back and listen. Everybody enjoy it, you know?

I hope this is four minutes. Do you think this is AI? Better not be. I just texted us another minute and a half. What is happening? We can't do the fade button. Fade it out. No, no, no.

Let the boy watch. God, this song's good. I don't know why. My instincts are like, we're going to get sued, but we're not. I'm like, we're playing too many. I don't know. We can't do this. I think we can't.

Yeah, we can't. Dude, it's the family guy joke. He's a cheeseburger. This is some incredible harmonies. This is pretty good. There's another minute and a half. Buckle up. Yeah.

I think I want to make this. intro of the show. We should come out to this at live shows. Man, this is a five. We should actually play. I love that we're doing the pod while this music is just playing. There's a minute and a half interlude, Craig.

This is only track one. I want, at our next live show, we should have only the fart or sharts play as like the lead-up music before we go on. Yeah. It's just every fart or shart compiled into a playlist. A little the poor wags who get dragged

to there with their husbands are just going to be like, I'm leaving you. And they're like, no, no, wait, one of them's really good. One of them's really like smooth jazz. Just hold on. It's coming. That was remarkable. That was so good. I'm very curious if

someone made that with AI or if they like actually recorded that whole thing. Whoever made that email us and tell us how you made it. That was fucking incredible. That was unbelievable. Please contact us immediately. I want to listen to the lyrics. I feel like we were talking a lot.

Dude, the lyrics were really good. There's like a very decent chance that I'm just like driving to the office tomorrow playing that. Hell yeah. That's good. I'm in a pretty good mood now. I feel good.

I feel like I could have a beer. That really, that guy innovated. He was like, you know what? I'm going to play some jams. We're not going gross with it. Yeah.

That was, that was visionary. There wasn't one fart noise in that whole song. No. That was incredible. well done all right well i mean now i feel kind of bad asking this but dk you know it's you know now we're just relaxing but i got i got to ask you question dk okay raiders lost to the eagles today

31 to nothing best game the eagles played all year so added to the list i would argue that five different teams this year i you know sorry i six different teams this year had their single best game of the season versus the raiders which is pretty horrific like six a third of your schedule had the best game they played all year versus you. So, D.K., Pete Carroll, is this season a fart and you bring Pete Carroll back? Or is this season a shart and the Raiders fire Pete Carroll after this season, his first season? Pete Carroll is the only coach in the NFL where the question, fart or shark could be taken literally as well.

I would say it's not the only one. Stans like that on the sideline. I mean, I think this is a shark. I think, however, they don't have the money to change into new pants. Is their problem? They're like on like a boat cruise, like a like a cocktail hour boat cruise, there's nowhere they can go. They've sharded and they're stuck on that damn boat. And what do they do now?

Do you jump in the water to try and salvage something? What is the football equivalent to getting your head coach depends to where? What is that? Is that a great offensive coordinator? Is that bringing in a Kubiak? It might have to be selling 8% of your team to a private equity firm or the Saudi Arabian sovereign wealth fund so that you can get the money to just get a different coach.

I mean, or they could just keep Pete Carroll. You could. And continue to be bad. Didn't, did Austin send a tweet, though, was like the Raiders are the only team to be shut out twice in one season? Yes, I was going to read that next. The Raiders were shut out twice this season. I think it was 31 and nothing both times,

but the Chiefs and the Raiders, and the Chiefs and the Eagles, the last team to be shut out twice in the same season was the Browns in 2000, which was like an expansion team. That was an expansion team. The Browns were added back to the NFL in 1999. So that's an expansion team. So unequivocally a shart. Like that's what I'm saying.

And I know that sounds like dramatic, but I would seriously argue the Colts, the Eagles, the Chiefs, the commanders, the Browns, and honestly, maybe the Cowboys. their best game. All those teams played all year was versus the Raiders. They got to play the Texans defense next week. I'm just saying like,

you're going to keep this guy's the oldest coach in the NFL. You're going to take the long view? Anyway. I have to say he's the oldest coach thing. Like he's just, they're bad. All right. But that's my point.

Is it because he's old? It's not about because he's old. I'm saying if the oldest coach in the NFL. I don't think it's old. No, I'm not, well, I'm not saying necessarily. I don't think it's not unrelated. I'm saying if he has made you the least competitive team in the league in the presence,

what's the long-term argument for the oldest coach in the history of pro football? If the argument for the president... I understand what you're saying. I think my point is just more like Pete Carroll has an incredible amount of energy. I understand why being old is the deal. Maybe he's just not a good coach anymore. Maybe the NFL has left him behind or whatever, but he doesn't have energy. I just...

Maybe he did poop his pants. I don't know. Maybe he does need depends. I have another farter shirt. Should we play the whole song again? Just do another four minute. I would love to. I'm going to be doing that.

The whole song. We'll do it at the end. I have the same question, but for Zach Taylor and the Bengals, the Bengals are shut out today again, by the 24 to nothing by the Ravens. Again, were they also shut out this season twice? No, sorry, no, I just meant that was a wrong,

it's late at night. I meant another team was shut out today. I couldn't believe they got shut out. I think it's actually more embarrassing. to get shut out by a team you played two weeks ago. I think that's odd. I believe it could be wrong. I think I saw a stat that the Bengals were inside the opponent,

the Ravens 35-yard line four times and left with zero points. Yes. And so maybe that's a fake shutout. But regardless, the Bengals were officially eliminated from playoff contention this year. They're not going to make it. I know that that was kind of already long gone. But the reality is the Bengals made the Super Bowl four years ago. Then the conference title again,

the Bengals have now got three years in a row without making the point. playoffs. D.K. Is that right? Damn. They have not made the playoffs in three seasons. Fart or shart for Zach Taylor, the head coach of the Bengals. Do you think Zach Taylor should, should they keep Zach Taylor for the entirety of Joe

Burroughs career, the only coach Joe Burroughs ever had? Or do you think the Bengals should fire Zach Taylor this season? This is hard because Burrow was hurt for most of the season. So I feel like it's a little unfair. But yeah, it feels like a shart. Like, were you just saying that they didn't make the playoffs for the last three years? I'm like, wow, I didn't realize that. That's crazy.

Like, I mean, I knew I knew that, but still, that's just with Burrow at quarterback and Chase and Higgins, it's pretty tough. All these seasons where, like, they're underperforming, Burrow just gets hurt. Like, that's not exactly Taylor's fault. I feel like when- That's why I feel like it's not fair. What does he bring? Like, Joe, like, Joe Burrow got hurt. And, like, again, when Jordan Love got hurt, Malik Willis,

Matt Lafleur went to and one with Malik Willis. Like even the Texans built a system where Davis Mills could go 3-0. I know that's mostly the defense. But I'm just saying when the Bengals lost your borough, Jake Browning came in and Jake Browning was like the worst quarterback, was so bad they had a trade for a quarterback from a division rival. I just, I don't know. And he knew Zach Diller's system for like three years.

I don't know. Every now and then you get a little peak and you're like, I don't understand. He's definitely one of the more established coaches in the league that has like no defining quality. He's Matt Damon. in Ocean's 11 when he goes in. And he's like, just, I want, you meet him, they like you. The moment you're out of their sight, they couldn't tell you one thing about

it. Never think about you again. Never think about you again. Okay. Intrusive thoughts. Wait, wait, wait. I have a new game I want to play in Fartor's start. D.K., we're going to play a little game called Puk or Fluke. And I want to talk about Josh Allen throwing

up on the sideline of today's game. And then his press, you know, Josh Allen, famously. if you may or may not know this, Josh Allen throws up before or during every single game. Did you know that? No, I didn't know that. He's done that since high school, yeah.

Yeah. Oh, wow. Literally every game. Yeah. How do you, do you like that? Is that kind of cool to you? No. Like manly, tough?

Or is that actually the opposite and it's a bit of a nick? I mean, it makes me a little bit worried about him, about his health. Can't be good for you. Yeah. Hartburn. But you're not worried about that.

You're not worried about Josh. That doesn't make me think he's like tougher or whatever. That's not a cool quality to you. No, no, no. I think it was funny when he was bad and it's cool now that he's good. Do you think I think it's pretty interesting. Like Bill Hader famously threw up before every SNL. And I think it's very fast.

that people who get to the highest level still, like Josh Allen is the MVP of the league, and he's still throwing up because there's like some biological urge. Is that like nerves manifesting themselves subconsciously, and you are preparing yourself physically for the game by throwing up without even, you know, wanting to or needing to? That's just your body's like natural reaction. I just find that to be incredibly, like, weird, to be honest.

Yeah, the short version is, yes, I think you're right. It's body over mind. And I think it's a mix of nerves and all that. stuff. And I also think that all these guys have to have some kind of, it is a psychological transformation to go and play football. Like, they all kind of have to become someone else and some guys like it's characters in movies. Ray Lewis was in his head would cosplay his fucking Maximus Meridian, the gladiator from the movie Gladiator. Like, that's why he would do the whole thing. He made that up. Like, like, I wrote a story about they all become the Joker, whatever,

or a Batman, but like, I think everyone has their own little thing. And sometimes he needs to literally just throw up, but I don't know. It's like everyone has their weird way to get ready and just do that. But you're right. It's weird. But I think that the answer is it's not Josh Allen, the MVP's throwing up. It's Josh Allen, the ninth grade quarterback who got put on varsity for the first time he's throwing up.

And then it just becomes a routine. And then suddenly like, you just, these guys are such creatures of habit that they all do the exact same thing on game day like every time. Yeah. And then it just suddenly like he can't play without throwing up. I was going to say, do you think it's gotten to the point where he needs to throw up to feel comfortable to play in the game? Yeah, he said that today, which that part I'd never heard. He said, if I don't get enough out before the game, it comes out in the fourth quarter.

I didn't know that. It's crazy. I just knew he threw it before every game. It's got to come out one end. A lot of people, a lot of people shit when they're when they're nervous. Well, D.K., you throw up your KCD before every pod. Yeah, that's right. Right, before every pod.

Vomiting. I like how you were specific with what food. throwing up. It's the only food I know you. I know for sure that you eat it. You're right. I did. I ate one today.

Remember the time D.K. was like, I think steak in a cassidy would be weird. It's like, no, not for that. No, I don't think it would be weird.

I just, I just prefer it without it. Well, you like, kind of like scoffed at. You're like, no way. Steak and a cassidia? No, I know that people do that.

No, I don't think it's weird that people do that. I mean, you just would never do it yourself. I think it's worse with the steak in there. It is funny, though, that like steak and a case you do a steak cheese tortilla, great.

But if somebody's like, would you like some cheese on your steak? You'd be like, no. What about blue cheese? On your steak? I mean... Some people do that. Oh, the blue cheese crust, I will say, now that a lactose... Traditionally, if someone's like, you want melted cheddar cheese on your steak,

you're like, fuck no. Well, this is my thing with lobster. I think lobster is crazy, which is like lobster ends up being the most expensive thing on the menu. And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So deshell it yourself and then dip it in liquid butter. And it's great. Lobster's like the biggest scam in the history of food, my opinion.

Dip this. You're going to pay $60 to dip something in liquid butter so it tastes good. It's a marketing ploy. Lobster used to be like peasant food. And then they like change the marketing around it. It was like MJ and Scotty Pippin. And then they're like, actually, we're going to tell you this is for, you know, this is a high class meal and we're going to start charging $40 a pound.

That's what I'm trying to do with Kcadias, Craig. Yeah, but no steak in the juice cheese. Yeah, the less the better. Less is more. I worry, I think we've had this exact exchange in this exact order. Oh, easily. Yeah. But happens a lot.

Crab is better than lobster. Crab is harder, though. Crab is a mess. If you actually got to do the shelling yourself, the little hammers and stuff, it's a fucking best. At least you get a little hammer, though. That's fun. It is fun to get a little hammer. You also get like little scissors.

Half the price, you get a hammer. Little ham. Oh, my God. I did a seafood boil. in North Carolina. We had a great time. Shout out of Outer Banks. We did a seafood boil.

He gave little buckets and everything. Come on. I did it again the next week. My family were on vacation. And I spent a lot of money at this seafood place. Like, like, a lot of money. How much? It was like hundreds of dollars.

It was like a lot of food. Hundreds of people. And I asked if they would. And there was a lot of issues with the order. And I asked like, because we had already done the money online and everything. And the hammers were $2. And the store was closed or whatever.

And I asked, would you throw in the hammer? And they were like, no. Classic hyphen. And I was like, come on. One hammer? When I went back, they forgot something and had to drive back to the place, like 20 minutes. Now are you throwing the hammers?

And, well, no, this is what I asked. I was like, could you throw in the hammer? They're like, no. I was like, man. they're like, well, the register's closed. I'm like, well, the register's, you know what? It's fun. I love using the hammer.

We should rank the most fun food tools to use while eating. Crab hammer is high. Like the nut cracker is kind of fun, like the chestnut, walnut crack. I like that. Yeah, that's nice. Garlic press. Oh, the garlic press is good. The garlic presses?

Yeah, that's definitely pretty like. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Cheese graters? Like primal. Cheese grater's okay. I like the one where you put it down, but I think the handhelds,

I just, I'm always very wary. I feel like I'm going to fuck it. Like, is zesting a lemon? I'm like, kind of dangerous. I know. I like the lemon juicer. That's fun. Very, very, very satisfying.

Juicing a lemon with that one. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, that's the show. Oh, Christ. Any other intrusive thoughts? Yeah, football is too long. I've decided.

There's too many weeks. And we, every, I think every, sport. We've backed ourselves into a predicament here because I think we all know that every sport's too long. They should all be shorter. The NBA 82 is insane. 162 baseball, crazy. Football getting longer, ridiculous. And you can't shorten them because you make less money. But everything would be better if they were all shorter. There'd be less injuries. It would just be better. I'm watching these guys drop like flies in week 15. And now no Michael Parsons in the playoffs. No Devonte Adams for a month. Pooka Nuku is, you know, getting

peeling himself off the term. Yeah, Mahomes is out. I'm like, it doesn't need to be this long. Make it 10 weeks. Give them two buys. Make it 10 weeks. A nice round number. 10 weeks. Yes, give them two buys, 10 weeks. Then we do the playoffs. It's better that way. Give me 37 NBA games. I watch all of them.

You know, everybody would. You're 100% right, though. It's like they just painted themselves in a new corner because they have to have this many games. They will be less money. There's just no way around it. There will be less money if you, reduce the games. So what do you do? You can charge more for tickets? What are you going to do? Are they going to pay more for the TV rights for less games? No. You probably could pay more.

You probably could charge more for the tickets for the games if there's fewer games. But you're not going to make as much money. Right. What's the right number? For what sport? Football. I don't know, 12. Yeah. Something like that. That's a particularly upsetting number because the Giants have started two and ten for like three years in a row. If you cut the if you cut the length of the baseball season in half, would anyone be

upset? Well, Ryan O'Hanlon, who was an hitter at the ringer. The number of games. The length would be interesting if you had to fit 162 games into half the time. Now that's, I might be interested to play double-h headers every day. Triple-headed. Dude, Dika, do you remember talking to Ryan about this? He was like, if

baseball just had six, they had the football schedule. They had 16 weeks. They played once a week. And you had one starting pitcher. Oh, and you're like, every game matter, you're like,

oh my God, we would lock the fuck in for baseball. Like every Sunday afternoon in the summer was just like a baseball team is playing. It's really the secret sauce.

I mean, the brutality of football saved it because I know, obviously, people like the violence and they want to watch and that stuff. But if there were 16 basketball

games a year, 16 baseball games, and there were 160 football games a year, it'd be flipped. The nature of the sport happened, like, it was people like violence, but yeah,

the nature of football skewed it toward a sketched, that ended up really being the winning formula. The scarcity drives the demand. And football has benefited more than anything off that. And it's like, why baseball? No one cares into the playoffs. Yeah.

Right time, right place. Kind of like how the Chiefs ended up winning in this really small environment in the NFL where running the ball didn't matter a ton and that like just passing the ball as an extension of the running game was enough to win the Super Bowl, without being able to stop the run

and the Chiefs aren't going to win a Super Bowl again. But that's a different conversation we'll have later. Okay. anyway. Speaking of the sport being too long and too many games and too many injuries, at what point do we start asking ourselves if Jackson Dart is going to have a long career where he can flourish. Welcome to the party, pal. Two months ago.

Dude, I saw this Jordan Run on posted this. Dart has now been checked for a concussion in half of his starts in 50% of his starts. And that doesn't necessarily mean he got a concussion, but it means he got his bell rung enough that they're like checking for it on the sideline. Well, Dika, he's played 10 starts. You're not saying he's been to the 10 in five games, are you? I think he's probably been to the tent more than that for other things. He has. No, it's been five games, but he's been there fucking eight times, which is unbelievable. It's just worrisome because he's, you know, the type of guy who says he doesn't want to change how he plays. I don't know. That was just like, I was thinking

that today, I'm like, man, I hope that we're not having that tough discussion about him, whether he should keep playing at some point, because it's just like, it's starting to get really worrisome. This was the problem with Scadabooz. When Scada was playing, the whole thing was, well, if he gets concussed, how will we know?

Right. Right. You know, Dart has to call the plays. No, I agree. It's awful. It's just my kingdom for someone who can just do with Dart what Liam Cohen has done with Trevor Lawrence. but yeah while we're here

can I tell you just another random thing about the Giants just absolutely mangling the back end of the roster because they're fucking idiots and they actually grow dumber by the week

I anyone for the Giants is the thing I yeah another can't believe he doesn't play for the Giants I just the latest saga

shout out to Dan Dugan at the athletic who does an amazing job covering how stupid they giants are and how insane their management their team is

again I don't understand I genuinely don't understand this happens and if anyone for the Giants is listening, please email me at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. I swear, I swear I will keep it anonymous. Just fucking explain to me what the fuck I am missing.

Their punt returner, Gunnar Olshevsky, has a concussion. He is in concussion protocol. The Giants have not one, but two punt returners on their practice squad. They do not elevate either of the guys to the active roster for the punt returning. Gunner Olshevsky does not. not clear protocol. So then they have to have

Javon Holland, who is their starting safety, returns punts. Javon Holland until last week had not returned a punt in three years. So why do you have two punt returners on your practice squad? If when your punt returners

injured, you will not actually play either of them. Because to me, that feels like something's off. Seems a little weird. Anyway, this is every week. The kickers hurt.

They don't sign a kicker. The punt returners hurt. They have a punt returner. They don't play it. It's like, what the fuck are they doing? Didn't Wondell Robinson return puns in college? Why doesn't he do it?

I don't know, probably because he tore his fucking ACO. They're starting receiver. Oh, yeah, they need him. Because most people run, I don't, I,

Craig, I do not know. I do not know. Javon Holland had not returned a punt in three years until last. Some teams have, I mean, like Ladd-McConkie returns puns, sometimes they do that. I couldn't tell you. Two punt returners of the practice squad, the guy gets hurt, they don't play either. Anyway, that's all right.

What are those guys there for? I don't, what are that is my question? Who are they? Who are they? Who are they? Nepo. What are we doing here? Nepos probably.

Nepo's probably. Phil Rivers was activated for the practice squad before the Giants punt returners when the punt returner. Who are these giant punt returners? Oh, it's the guy from, it's Gibson from the Jets. Remember, he returned the punt when the Bill's Jets game when Rogers wasn't there

and he won the game on the walkoff. Like, he's a good punt returner. Gippson with a P right? Yes, Gibson with a P. And I forget the other one. But like actual talented special teams. They're not like, these aren't guys that they're developing as future starters at receiver. They're there because

they can return pun. No, I believe Xavier Gibson was like an all pro punt returner. Cool. Just on, they didn't sign them. It doesn't matter. It's just like, how I, why do I have seven stories of them not playing people? Why do I have this? Here's the important thing. They lost.

I hate them. I hate them. I hate this fucking team. I wonder when you'll be able to root for them. Number one pick. Pretty cool. I mean, you are on track to have the number one pick. No, no, they're going to, because they play.

the Raiders. At week 17, they're going to beat them. Oh, and the Raiders will get the number one pick? Oh, I'm sure. I think the Giants would beat the Raiders, right? Oh, the Raiders are going to take Fernando Mendoza. Him in Vegas is kind of a hilarious combination. He's going to go to restaurants. He's going to love to... He's like, all the ladies here are so nice.

So kind. Meanwhile, Diego Pavia, the videos of Fibb in your... Yeah. He wishes. Ike of the week. Did you guys see Trump doing the coin toss at Army Navy? No. Yes. He didn't flip it. Bad form?

Does he do the coin toss similar to how he shakes someone's hand? Oh, the pull in? Like just power move. It's just insane. Yeah. It's more like Philip Rivers through past. Trump managed to do the coin toast at Army Navy. But he did it basically like he's never done a coin toss in his life.

Yeah. So we're never seen one. He's like, I don't think he's ever touched a coin. He's probably never touched a coin. They're also heavy. What are these? gold to balloons, yeah. You tell me, I can pay with these

and acquire a fraction of a dollar? How many millions are each of these worth? No, but he took the coin and he just floated it and it just didn't flip over. It just like stayed and then just lay a knuckle. It never is a knuckle ball. It never at any point flipped. And then the ref looked down and it just laughed.

And they're like, all right. Cool. Don't they have any rules if it's a coin doesn't actually fucking flip? You have to do it again? I don't know if he noticed this, D.K., but if Trump, it does say a camera, the rules are kind of like,

I would have respected if he, if they just handed in the coin and he went, heads. No, no, you have to flip it. No, I heard you. Hey. Okay. Heads in it.

Yeah, do you think their ref's going to be like, no? He'll be like, all right. Dude, between this and Kenny Albert and John Vilma having him in the booth at that Washington game, where they were just like, Kenny Albert had to throw to a break and Trump was just like telling a story. Oh, my God.

It's hard, man. That's like the Manningcast every week. Oh, yeah. That don't even get me starting on that. Them figuring out how to cut to a break with the guest and there's still a delay. I don't know why there's a delay. It's bizarre. It's crazy.

It's the technology that we have. It's like I'm talking to my mom in my car on Bluetooth. And it's like, no, you go. You go. You go. I can't believe there's a delay on the Manicat. I just can't. It's crazy.

The other, the other ick of the week, Scott Hanson on Red Zone today was like, Kenny, pick it to lock it. You usually got to pick it to unlock it. And Jackie just goes, ugh. Get a load of this guy. Get a load of this guy. That's when you know you've lost the crowd. And we head to Philadelphia where the Eagles are flying the Raiders back home to Vegas.

Oh my God. My ink of the week, which slash, I'm going to bring in a rewatchables category, the Ruffalo, Hannah Rubenek Partridge overacting award. Tyler Shuck today, impressively, he slid at the end of the game. At a crucial moment of the game, got hit kind of late in the slide, not really. He wasn't hit that hard. For a brief second, was totally fine. And then kind of realizing the moment, oh, wait, if it looks like I'm hurt, they might throw a flag.

and then kind of flops over like a fish and starts to kind of like hold his head and it worked and they called the flag and it was not a late hit and it was not hitting the head and it worked and you have to give it to him but it was it was some real overacting soccer move get the spray

like it was so clear I watched the play one single time in the moment and you could immediately tell he got hit realized he got hit that he could get a flag maybe and then after a second of clearly seeming fine started to flop on the ground like he was in pain. The way he kind of like,

it looked like when a kid points a finger gun at you and he's like, Tom Brady, Tom Brady actually said absolute piss missile on television this week. Craig, Craig really called it with the absolute thing. Oh, it's real. He throws an absolute in there every day or every time, but this one, I don't remember if I've ever heard him say this.

He said absolute piss missile. He managed to make me. cringe even when he used one of my favorite expressions. It wasn't cool. No, he made it not cool. It's like, oh God, now is that what I sound like? He also kind of like lingered on the essence. If you listen to it, it was like he's talking

in like a snake voice or something. He was like piss missile. It's like slitherent. Yeah, it's like straight out of Harry Potter. Every big play, his voice is completely shot. It's like he just got out of a concert. He's like, Pooka!

God damn. To voice, hey. Absolute. Pissed myself. Did you guys hear him talking about milking cows today? No. Oh my God. Okay.

So the end of the Rams Lions game, the game wasn't over. The Lions have... I almost don't want the context of this. The Lions have a chance. The context is it was like an important moment of the game. The game was the Lions had the ball with down seven. And Tom Brady starts saying, like,

I don't know how they got into this, but Tom Brady is like, yeah, no, I... I did use to milk cows. And KB. He's like, Ha, ha. And Tom Brady's like, no, no, no. I, my, my mom's side in Minnesota, there was a small town of 300 people and we would milk cows. And one of my favorite things was, was we would pull the cream off the top of the

pasteurization and get right in there with all the creamy dairy. And like, I love milking cows. It's one of my fondest memories. And then KB was like, third and four. It was crazy. Like, it was, the game was very much happening. And Tom Brady was just during the play talking about milk and cows. Brady's like, whoa, wait, I have a real human anecdote to give right now.

Hold on. I'm not going to miss this moment. So I've been saving this for years. They told me it polled well. Yeah. Piss missiles did pull well before this, but now I'm like out, I think. Lucille Bluth, I don't understand the stat line. I won't respond to it award.

I just had Liam Cohen is four wins away from being the fifth most wins in the history of the Jaguars as a coach. What? Wait, what? Liam Cohen is four wins off of being the fifth most winning head coach in Jaguars history. I mean, how many coaches have there been? Like 10, but he has, he's been there for three months. So, you know.

Oh, my God. Oh, that's good. That's good. That's a great stat. This is not a stat, really, but the stat, it kind of comes off, dovetails off a stat. The stat about Trayvon Henderson being tying the rookie record for 50-yard touchdowns with Sequin Barclay. And Lenny Moore, who was a running back from the 1950s.

And I went, of course, I kind of looked into that. And his rookie season, he played for the Baltimore Colts, 1956 Baltimore Colts. I went through the roster. I won't give you the full situation. There's just two things I want to point out. Well, on the 1956 Colts, four guys named Dick. Sure, naturally.

And the center on the team's name was Buzz Nutter. 1956 Baltimore Colts Buzz Nutter N-U-T-T-E-R That's right That is correct And Buzz Nutter His real name

His real name was Madison Oh, okay Madison Nutter I guess he chose Buzz over Madison And Buzz Nutter after he played He moved back to his hometown of La Plata,

Laplata, Maryland And he started a beverage distribution company that he ran for 40 years. Of course. So. Rivaled only Cloy's box. Yeah. You think Buzz Nutter had had some inadvertent whistles in his day?

No way. Buzz? Buzz Nutter. Yeah, he had legendary stamina. I think Buzz had too much whiskey in his blood to get a premature situation. Buzz Nutter is pretty good. Buzz Nutter. That sounds like I feel like I can buy a Buzz Nutter at the store tomorrow.

We should like launch a, beer we'd call it Buzz Nutter. Buzz Nutter is so good. Buzz Nutter. That might be that might be second. I mean, that's up there with Cloy's Box and jug. Jug herb.

And cut buck. I think that it's Cloisbock, Furnbox. Cupbuck, Jugerp, and Buzz Nutter. That's the, that's the starting five. Don't forget Beating Feathers. I have a small spot of my heart for Beating Fetter. Beattie Fathers is off.

the bench. Yeah, he's a six man. Buzz Nutter's the center. We're going to have to make us, we're going to have to make us, we need to make a starting 11. Oh, shit. So good. Jugger.

Cup, fuck. Wait, more, more research just came in about Buzz Nutter. Nutter was selected in the 12th round of the 1953 NFL draft to the Washington Redskins. He failed to make the team in the offseeds and move back to West Virginia to work in a steel mill. Of course.

He's in the mills. Fuck yeah. That's unbelievable. He's had 12 rounds back then? They used to have 20, I think. Man. The only other, I don't understand the stat line. I won't respond to it.

I just have to note this. The Jets have now tied the longest streak in NFL history without an interception. They already had it to start a year, but now they have just tied just, they have now played 14 straight games without an interception, which is the most on record since 1940. And I would like to point out that they're. Coach was a cornerback. Ah. Even though we talk about all the time, it's like they're the butt of everyone's jokes.

It does fly under the radar still, even a little, just how bad the jets are all the time. They don't have an interception. Yeah. They could go the entire year without one. That's never been close to done. Cursed. A cursed franchise. My brother's wife is from Cleveland, and I was just with her this weekend.

And I was like, hey, like, maybe you, maybe you, maybe you. Maybe you get a good quarterback next year. You can have an early pick. Maybe you get a good quarterback. Things will work out. And she's like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who we draft. It's not going to work.

Truly, what is it like to be a Jets fan? I can't I can't fathom it. It is pretty. It's pretty grim. We make fun of high fits, but he has two fucking Super Bowls recently. The Jets were so bad that Sean was like, I'm going to dedicate my life to watching movies

because I don't want to watch football. I will spend all. of my time watching movies, so I don't have to watch football. God. Kind of smart. Anything else? This goes under the category of this just doesn't sound right, so I'm going to ignore it. Caleb Williams is now the NFL record has the NFL record for fewest interceptions in a quarterback's first 1,000 career pass attempts.

Nope. Just 12. It just doesn't, I don't believe you. That's crazy, actually. Played or platter. Clayter planner. I don't believe you. There's no way that's correct.

Check that one again. Burn book. I got two for you. Okay, please. Tyler Warren. Oh, man. That's actually a great one. Has single digit points in five of his last six games.

Excuse me, six of his last seven games. Especially in a week where tight ends went off. Tyler Warren had three points today. He had two points last week. I don't know what he does for you anymore. Fantasy's hard because you should have cut Tyler Warren after his buy in week 11. You should have cut him and just added Colby Parkinson. I mean, Colston Loveland has outscored him quite a lot.

It's such an interesting, the season's so long because Tyler Warren was like a sensation at the beginning of the year. It is reasonable to say that people will be drafting Colson Loveland ahead of Tyler Warren next year. Well, only if Philip Rivers is back. Yeah. Yeah, what about that? That's true. I imagine he'll be back. he's having so much fun.

It's like, he's getting out of the house. Feels amazing. Making a paycheck. Who's your other burn book? Ashton Gentie. I think it's Jenty. I think it has to be Jenty. Genties last three weeks, six, four, nine.

I think Jenty has to be the Burr Book. Someone, I texted me, it was like, I want to bench him for Rico Doudal. He's the least reliable, quote, unquote, bell cow first round pick of the year. they're playing the Texans next week, I think. I think it has to be Jent. Yeah.

Yeah, they're playing. They are in Houston next week. No one who's drafted Ashton Jentie is happy. Correct. I think he did that. Me in the Ringer League. That's easy. Genties.

I can't believe he's made it this long. It's been a sharp. It's been a shart. It's been a shart for the Raiders. Yes, it has. The only other thing I want to say to you guys before we leave is we were talking the other day about a been too wrong. Remember the bear cat?

Yeah. Binturongs. Yeah. It's a cool looking animal. Neither bears nor cats, but they're called bear cats. Their Wikipedia says that, so they're a nocturnal mammal from Southeast Asia, known for its popcorn-like smell? Oh, yeah, that was something a lot of people, I was talking about how the Binturang's

the coolest-looking animal. A lot of people sent me that. In fact, they smell like popcorn. Do I get a Binturon? You should. I mean, yeah. They're cute as hell. I got to start a movie theater and have my logo be a Bintrong.

Binturon's pretty sick name, though. It is. Bearcat is also cool. Why do they smell like popcorn? I don't know. Can someone email us to explain why these things smell like popcorn? Why do they smell like popcorn? I love that.

We hear that. We're just like, yeah, sure. But then Caleb Williams has the fewest interceptions for like a thousand past attempts. We're like, no, no, that's got to be fake. All right. Thank you, D.D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Carlos.

Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Ronick. Thank you, Ryan. Thank you, Austin. Thank you to Phil Rivers for I don't know, he tried really hard. No, screw you, Phil. I started Tyler Warren because of your ass.

I thought you'd throw to him more. Great. You ruined my life. Thank you, Lauren. Lauren. Thank you, Britney Spears. Okay. Wow.

High Fitz, you know that one, right? Yeah, I do. Yeah, no. Cool. What's your favorite song? Might. Is it Hit Me Baby one more time or is it oops, I did it again? Well, ironically, Craig, there,

pretty much the same song. They, shockingly similar. If you, I saw there was like a, someone did a, like a, they laid them on top of each other or whatever. What do you call that? And they, the beats are very similar and like the, whatever, the chorus hits it, almost the exact same time. So like the irony of naming it oops I did it again is probably because she just made the same

song over. Okay. That was in a necessary take down of a great pop song. No, I like it. No, he's right. It reminds me of high school. Every fucking pop song sounds the same. We're just going to decide Britney Spears is the first person to have a repetitive pop song.

I did not. I never said derogatory. I thought it was a cool little story about the name of the song. Oh, yes, what song you like? Well, one of the, when we do the one second song challenge, which again, we should do soon. I like who said this again. The one second song challenge, I think one of them started with what do we think is the easy. I think it started with what's the most instantly recognizable song.

like that was kind of the genesis of it was like what is the song that people could literally recognize at one second and one of the ones we bopped around as maybe the most one second song was toxic as maybe like the easiest one to identify one second oh I think hit me

maybe one more time is more identifiable than toxic really yeah da nah nah everybody knows that how does toxic start how does toxic start that's like a little bit longer I think you can't get that in the second

I still remember back when we had music videos I remember like the oops I did it again song She was like doing like the Played with you Were you a fan of the British music videos Oh yeah I was like 17 at the time or something probably So was she sicko

Well that's she was my peer What year was she born actually? Hold on. Dude, one of the funniest things I've seen all year was someone put up Britney Spears' Instagram captions next to Trump's posts on True Social. They were like written in the same voice. Craig, Britney Spears is all into me, so shut it. I'm just a joke, all right?

You don't have to get too defensive. I think he doth protest too much. It was totally fine, okay? It was fine at the time, all right? Goodbye, everyone. Must be 21 plus in present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 plus in present in D.C., Kentucky, or Wyoming. Gambling problem.

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