The Ringer NFL Show - Week 16 Awards and Week 17 Waiver Wire Targets

Episode Date: December 27, 2022

We recap Week 16 by giving out holiday awards for the biggest losers, including the Festivus airing of grievances to the stars who screwed us. We praise the tight end resurgence in the fantasy playoffs and the white-hot Vikings, and we give the Easter resurrection award to a certain Los Angeles Rams running back. Then we add our next player to The Ringer Fantasy Burn Book before running through the injuries from Week 15 and highlighting our must-add players for Week 17 with our favorite format, Showdown Time. (02:21) - Week 16 Awards (38:28) - RB Targets (43:31) - WR Targets (49:17) - TE Targets (59:05) - DEF Streamers Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Borlbeck. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanuk. Happy Kwanza. Happy Boxing Day. Most of all, happy festivists. Yeah. We are combining our Sunday and Monday shows today for another mega recap of week 16,

as well as our waivers to prepare you for week 17. We're going to do our waivers at the end of this podcast. So if you want help for, you know, who to add this week, who to cut whatever. We're going to do that toward the back end, but we're going to start out with our awards for Week 16. I'm going to try to throw a little festibus in here, but there's only one place to start,

which is the losers. Yeah. And for weeks, D.K., you have been doing the, can this possibly get any sadder award? Yeah, just methodically getting sadder every week, the Broncos and the Russell Wilson situation. Obviously, I'm not a Broncos fan, but I'm actually starting to feel bad.

You're actually the opposite, really. It's good for me, because, now with the Broncos getting their, just getting absolutely annihilated by the Rams, one of like the worst teams in the NFL, they just got totally blown out. Now the Seahawks are, I think,

if they're not locked in, like, they're getting closer to locking in that number three overall pick in the draft from the Broncos. So it's great for me. Regardless, I still feel a little bit bad about this. Like, Russell Wilson looks completely broken. His teammates don't seem to like him. There was like fights on the sideline.

I don't know what was going on. Brett Rippin got into it with one of the offensive alignment. I can only assume Rippin was like somehow defending Russell Wilson and they were just telling him to shut the fuck up. That's just my reading of the situation. But yeah, this is like really bad. Obviously, Nathaniel Hackey got fired this morning,

which is really rare, by the way, for a first year head coach to get fired before the season's over. You know what else is rare is for one of the worst offenses in the league to score an eight of their nine possessions on Christmas Day and drop 54 points. Cam Acres came out of nowhere.

Baker Mayfield looks awesome. Yeah, the Broncos are just, it's just sad situation. Paying somebody $250 million and giving up first-round picks for him to be the worst quarterback in the league. That's usually pretty rare. That doesn't happen much. Although it's happening with Deshaun Watson as well. Yeah. Did you guys watch this Broncos game, though?

I did. I have a tendency sometimes to be hyperbolic. It's one of the worst offensive performances I've ever seen. I watched Zach Wilson this season. Like this Russell Wilson game, so first of all, my, uh, My girlfriend showed me a box court. Because it was Christmas. Honestly, I wasn't like totally paying attention to do stuff.

And she shows me the box corner. I thought it was like wrong. It said zero yards, two picks. I was like, how could he have two picks before he has? They just haven't tabulated his yards yet, right? Yeah, I was like, ESPN. It's not updating. ESPN.

No, he had two picks before. How is that possible? Bobby Wagner picked him off too. A little bit of revenge there. Oh my God. Did you guys see? I don't even know we talked to this. Did you see the Amazon Prime, the Thursday night game,

the Jack's Jets game that gave Richard Schwarz. German, the Christmas gift, and it was a thing of Richard Sherman, but the voice was Russell Wilson going, Broncos country, let's run. And he lost it on it. The Seahawks who hate Russell Wilson, I've never seen a diaspora former players who hate an active quarterback as much as ever. And then in this game, the dichotomy of Russell Wilson being awful with Baker Mayfield, another short quarterback who's been in his team for three weeks looking like, I don't know, the Bills and Josh Allen did in January of this year. Like, it's, I truly have never seen. seen anything like the collapse.

Like, I was trying to explain it to like, you know, my girlfriend's family on Christmas Day. And I was like, well, um, if you've been following FTX. It's a debacle. It's truly a debacle. How many classes of spiked egg dog do you think John Schneider had yesterday? Just sitting back watching Russ start the game over to with two picks. Wilson finished 15 and 27 for 214 yards, three picks.

He had a garbage time touchdown that I guess like somewhat saved it. He had eight fantasy points, which is pretty par for the course for him. But you're right. It was garbage time. He should have really had like four. So you had 8.2 fantasy points. I wanted to go through all the players who outscored Russell Wilson, the most unlikelyest of players. Oh, wait, but this is all different players.

This is just players. But one of them is a lie. I actually held true to that today. So one is a lie. But here are the players in week 16 of the NFL that outscored the quarterback Russell Wilson. Mercedes Lewis, the oldest tight end of all time. Taysam Hill Turns like a Buick

Taysam Hill who was Buick Lewis Mercedes Mercedes but actually a Buick like the wood panel Taysam Hill

playing in like sub zero temperatures Avery Williams the running back for the Falcons if you remember him Ray Williams

Ray Ray McLeod Trenton Irwin player I kind of forgot about he almost had three touchdowns you guys He had two plus almost another one. Shane Zilstra.

Three touchdowns. I know this one. So what's one of these guys? Who? I think Avery Williams is the lie. There's no way. Shoot. I'm going to say Mercedes-Lewis.

Avery Williams did not outscore. He had four points. He would have outscored him, had the garbage time touchdown not happen. Oh, my God. Buick Lewis outscored Russell Wilson. What are the off-brand brands for, for Mercedes. I know that we've talked about this

in the past. You guys have that thing pulled up in front of you. Whatever it is like the biggest boat of a car. That's Mercedes-Lewis. We have like the whole off-season to talk about the Broncos and Russell Wilson. I do want to just quickly shout out Nate Hackett. Shortest tenure of any Broncos that coach ever.

And basically the worst stretching team history. And then also want to shout out at 15 and a half points per game through however many weeks this is. The Broncos are at their lowest point total at that point in season since 19. It was really the worst Christmas Day to watch sports in a long time. It really was. I didn't even check in on the basketball games. Usually I always watch them.

But were they bad too? Because my loser is actually everyone who tried to watch football on Christmas for those final two games. No, the basketball is all right because the Warriors without Steph Curry beat the Grizzlies. My least favorite team in the league. So that was fantastic. How are the Grizzlies your least favorite team? What has they done to you, Craig? John Moran's so likable.

What if? No, he's not. None of you're a Warriors fan. Did you pay attention to anything that happened in the playoffs last year? The whole Taylor Jenkins, they hurt Gary Payton. Jod got hurt. Taylor Jenkins, the whole broke the code thing. Oh, good, good.

Who was talking about this the other day? Like, it's good. We need players who hate each other in basketball. I'm just saying, I've never seen a team talk more shit that hasn't done anything than the Memphis Grizzlies. That's it. Do you know the Grizzlies used to be in Vancouver? I did know that. That's TK's contribution.

But here's the last thing I remember about the Grizzlies. But that's the theme of the day is all these people. when they schedule these Christmas games, we're like, we're so smart. Steph Curry Warriors on Christmas. And like, oh, my God, Russell Wilson versus Matt Stafford and the Rams. And then they're like,

Kyler Murray versus Tom Brady. And it's like, oh, my God, these were the worst games I've ever watched. The Buck's Cardinals game, disgusting, or as DK would say, appalling. Appalling football. I looked down, I was in one of those,

I needed Tom Brady to not get like 10 points. I looked down. They were like 50 minutes into the game. And he did not have one. full point. Brady? Good God. I think it was the worst game

of the season. I guess until the final three minutes because Tom Brady's now Tim Tebow and you should just check in with six minutes left and the fourth

and then he starts to do stuff. This game was 6-6 for like an hour and a half and Trace McSorley and Brady just punting back and forth to one another. Good God. Guys, I got to be honest

I watched Glass Onion instead of the game. That's the best decision you made all year. That was like buzzer-beater. I was kind of like watching it on my phone. You know, like keeping up with a box score as the game went on.

And I just like saw DeAndre Hopkins like target total continue to rise, but he just never ended up getting any more catches. And it was like making me want to gouge my eyes out. So that was my experience watching the Cardinals bucks. I didn't watch it. If you watch Chris Treveller on Thursday night football, I think Trace McSorley is like the poor man's Chris Treveller. Like it's just anyway.

Funny thing is that McSorley replaced Treveller on the Cardinals. Yeah. Oh, really? Yes, he did. Striveller is better 100%. Also, just want to shout out Mike Evans for being absolutely unplayable in fantasy. And just fantasy serial killers

the Tampa Bay Bucks are. We'll get to this. All right. I do think we should shout out another loser of the day other than just all of us for watching these games. Dude, I didn't see, again, I feel like I didn't get to watch a ton of these games.

I didn't get to see how this game ended. I just saw that Tua had three picks in the fourth quarter. What happened? How did that happen? A collapse. I'll tell you what happened. Two has never been that good.

And it's coming to a head now. I would say one of his three picks, you could argue it's not his fault. It was like Rahim Mostered in the sly. I think it was a misdemeanor. He didn't turn around basically. The other two, horrific. At the worst points possible in the game, of course, you know, I feel like every announcer now during a Tua game has to like constantly like build this narrative that two is actually great and he has all these great qualities. and there's always like this weird urge to, like, defend him no matter what.

Like, if he has a decent quarter or a decent drive, they're always like, two is really humming right now. Like, this is why you drafted him. You know, he's pinpoint accurate. You know, he throws in rhythm. And then he throws two miserable Trace McSorley as picks. And it's like, well, you know, forget about that, I guess. They were terrible.

I've got faith in him at all. He has no zip on his passes. He's continuing to underthrow all of his receivers. Listen, he's not the worst quarterback in the league. to me he's just a he's a middling quarterback who has a great offensive scheme and can hit guys when they're open

but man if the game gets tight I have no faith into it did you see jire Alexander the Packers cornerbacks interview this is always the Pam Oliver interview so funny can we play he like went all the way through the entire sequence he was like he said something like

basically the tire kill was there I'm like oh he's fast and I backed off and then I was just playing deep and I'm like oh my god is that ball coming to me Sometimes I'm like, damn, being an athlete's simple. He's just like, you know, relies on instincts. He's like, Tyreeks fast, so I backed up a little bit. Ball hit me in the chest. I went and hung out with my teammates, gave the ball to a kid wearing my jersey.

He really did say that. Axis and those, man. I will say, I feel like the book on two is becoming just like, yeah, he's great unless you hit him, in which case he has no ability to overcome a murder. It's like, oh, he's great unless anything goes wrong around him. Well, you know what's funny? I was listening to this. I'm like, this is like how boomers talk about millennials.

You know what I mean? Sure. Donald snowflakes? Yeah. But that's now the millennials now have our first Gen Z quarterback. We were like, look at this Conald Snowflake, too. Well, high face, you and I are Zenials. I just found out that term.

Have you heard Zenials? Oh, we're the border of Gen Z and millennial? Yeah, it's like people born between like 92 and 98 are now Zenials. I feel seen. So you're after millennials or before millennials? We're younger than millennials, but older than Gen Z8. Got it. Because I think technically I'm a millennial, even though that I don't think I am, really.

So we have like what, all the self-centeredness of the millennials with none of the attention span? Sorry, I blanked out there. I wasn't listening. All right. Next one here. Winners. I don't forget winners. It's Festivist.

I think this is feats of strength. Sure. Feats of strength. The real life and fantasy football, Minnesota Vikings. The last three weeks, listen, whatever you want to say by the Vikings, at least in fantasy football, they've been an absolute juggernaut in the playoffs.

The last three weeks, Kirk Cousins is the number one quarterback in fantasy. Justin Jefferson is the number one. Yes. I don't know if I do that. That's amazing. Because he's just in these like dome shootouts where everybody else is playing in blizzards.

He's just down 30, putting up 400 yards of the boy. Oh, my God. Justin Jefferson is number one wide receiver in the last three weeks, outscoring the next best guy by 20. So he's far and ahead, number one wide receiver. KJ. Osborne's a top 15 guy in the last three weeks.

T.J. Hawkinson is the top three tied end in the last three weeks. And Dalvin Cook is the eighth best running back. Like the Vikings are fucking humming. Oh, for all the wrong reasons, probably. But they win every game by like one score. It's amazing. This game sucked. So my girlfriend's in Pittsburgh.

So I went to the Steelers Raiders game, which we can talk about. And my brother, his wife's in Minnesota, so he was at this Giants Vikings game. There were not many Giants fans at this Vikings game. he was the only one and the pictures that he kept sending like we got this picture as time expired and he looked so miserable. You know how I felt watching this game?

First of all I actually thought the Giants play better and I know on Friday I said whoever wins this game will get off their charges of being a fraud and whoever loses the Giants Vikings. They just extend their fraud reputation we just delay finding out that they're frauds for one more week.

Exactly. You know how I felt watching this game, Giants Vikings? You know that's seen in Breaking Bad where the kids trying to give Walter White's some excuse for why his homework's late. And he's like, don't bullshit a bullshitter.

It's too fun. Facing off. Exactly. Big a Giants fan watching this Vikings team. I'm like, you're no good. I know you're not any good. I know, like it takes one to no one. We're both no good.

Yeah. Danny Dimes, 30 out of 42 for 3 and 34 yards in a touchdown. He had a pretty good game. Yeah, it was like the most they threw the ball all season. Well, the Vikings defense legit is really bad. And again, Ben don't break. you're talking about like, well, once they get to the red zone, they're no good. Usually means, like, you've been very lucky in the red zone.

Again, part of me thinks Vikings fans are furious, and I think that we're going to, the Vikings here to be, Kirk Cousins is going to be holding up the Super Bowl MVP trophy, like, as confetti reigns of the Vikings, and we're going to be like, but they're point differential is like single digits. DVOA. Yeah. I have

to say, I have to say, what's for Super Bowl champions. I don't know. I don't know what to do now because I'm like, should I just completely pivot and embrace that this is the team of destiny, or should I just continue to stick to my priors that these guys are fraudulent.

I don't know. I think it's the easiest. Wait another week, Craig. We've been saying that for eight weeks. But here's the thing. Tell me if I'm wrong. They're 12 and 3. Dude, this is the easiest playoff picture

it's ever been to predicting the NFC. The NFC championship game is going to do the Vikings versus the Buccaneers and the Vikings are going to be 24 to nothing at halftime and we're going to be talking about how awful Tom Brady is. People are going to turn it off

and then Tom Brady's going to win in overtime, like 30. three to 30. And then the bucks are just going to go to the Super Bowl, even though we thought that they haven't won a first half all year. Can't wait for that. Anyway, Vikings suck. I want to talk about T.J. Hawkinson, though,

because we've been complaining about tight ends all season for good reason. Most of them are terrible. Most of them are useless in fantasy. If you have one of the good ones, congratulations. Otherwise, you're just hoping and praying for a touchdown. T.J. Hawkinson, quietly? Well, I guess not that quietly. Since he's joined the Vikings, he has been the tight end two,

14.3 points per game of PPR, which is second only to to Kelsey, obviously. He's kind of turning into like an elite tight end. I want to know if you guys think this is number one. If you think this is a sign of things to come, like maybe he just needed a different team to be on to turn into like this elite receiver, elite tight end.

Because obviously he was a top 10 dick back in the day and then generally has been viewed as a disappointment, not a bus, but a disappointment. They traded him away, obviously. The Lions did. But since he joined the Vikings, he's absolutely took off. His pace, okay, he's played eight games with the Vikings.

His pace for a full 17-game season would be 111 catches. He's been fantastic. I think so in this game particularly, the Giants linebackers, easily one of the worst groups in the league, maybe the worst period. Like the Giants were starting at middle linebacker,

this guy that was literally the last, like Mr. Irrelevant, the last pick in the draft, and they tweeted about not wanting more playing time, they just cut him. So like the Giants linebackers are really might be the worst coverage linebackers in the league. However,

I think Hawkinson on the Vikings has been so good because Thielen seems to slow down and they have no yards after the cat. They have no athletic people in this offense other than Justin Jefferson. And Hawkinson so, like, has kind of taken that Adam Thielin a role that we kind of thought

Thielen would have this season of like all the stuff that Justin Jefferson leaves on the plate like Hawkinson's getting all of it because he's the most athletic receiver really on this team after Justin Jefferson. Also, there's something to be said for the amount of just like the pure volume in passing, like, you know, Kirk's third in the league in passing attempts,

but also this point margin thing, they've, what, their point margin is two. They've outscored their opponents by two points this year. They're in every single game down to the very last second. They are constantly battling and throwing and playing in competitive environments, unlike a typical 12 and three team, you know, that's probably up by 20 a lot. And running.

Yeah, like running in the second half. They're like the Eagles, but the opposite. You know how the Eagles, it's like Jalen Hertz keeps getting pulled in the middle of the fourth quarter and like they're just running out the clock? The Vikings have probably not had five combined minutes all year of running out the clock in the fourth quarter. To be clear, just to reiterate, he had 16 targets in this game. He had 35 points, most of all skill players in PPR.

Not chabby. Because the Giants, I'm not going to, I cannot believe the Giants. Kirk, you're swinging it. Too quickly. It's so funny. I love it. Kirk, he's back. While we're talking about me losing with the Giants, I want to shout out wins.

I want to shout out everyone who went to the cold games. Hi, Vince. What was the situation? Tell us about this. You went to the Steelers game. It was, I think, negative 9 or something in terms of real feel. It was a real fee to stress. I didn't make that up, apparently.

I do. It turns out you did not invent the term real feel as I thought. But no, we were prepared for negative 7 with a real feel of negative 20. It turned out to be a downright tropical 14 degrees with a real feel of negative 8. Balmy. And it was, I mean, it might as well have been on White Lotus. But the game was awesome. And for all the consternation, it was one of the best games I've ever been to.

It was my girlfriend's birthday and Christmas Eve. We got on the Jumbotron twice with the sign that we did the Mike McDaniel. I wish it were colder. And then shout out to Scott Miller, who's one of our listeners who suggested that I borrow Sorrell boots from somebody. Stand on cardboard because it's smart than standing on concrete. Wool socks, toe warmers. And then Steelers somehow won. by 57 minutes of being disgusting on offense.

I know. I like to hear about the game plan for getting dressed for these games. Did you wear like extra pants, like over your regular pants? How did, what did you do there? Long johns? So long johns,

and then sweatpants and jeans. And then I wore long johns. And jeans? Long johns, a Steelers shirt, or like a Pittsburgh, like a Yin shirt, if you know, you know. And then I had a sweater or a quarter zip of sweater and then a sweatshirt.

And then the move that I think saved me was then I did a rain jacket, like a straight windbreaker to like absorb all the heat. Like, you know when you wear a wind jacket or a rain jacket in like August, but it's not ready, he's get sweaty. I wanted to absorb all that. Then I wore my, uh, jack mittens, obviously, over gloves because, you know, you think he's got to stay together. Scarf, which had never done before, scarf can't have let any heat out the top. And then, like a ski mask, like what George Pickens wear. I basically George Pickens watching himself being drafted. Can I ask? I'm very curious as to what you ate and drank during the event. Did you,

try and stick to warm drinks and food? I saw you at a beer, so you, like, what would you even drink? I got, like, cold on your soul, drinking a beer in that weather? Come on. I thought about it that I was like, screw it. I got a food arranger, just it felt appropriate for the skeleton wearing the cold hat, which I thought was funny. That thing was frozen in 10 minutes.

I swear to God, that thing was like a slushy, 10 minutes in. And then there was no wine for concessions because it was so cold. But, dude, they, Heinz had this station with, their son, Hato, No mustard. Red buns for like ketchup flavored buns. So it looked insane. Everyone kept asking us about these buns. So no one was doing like, like, were they selling like hot chocolate?

Anything like that hot drinks, teas, hot water, whatever? Honestly, no. It was mostly normal. It was just beer. It was cold beer. And then I could hold my beer upside down. And then I had like two seconds till it would fall into the bottom. It was surreal.

But it doesn't sound fun. What an experience. Plus the Steelers won, which. Yeah, it's so great the way they won at the end. But then we also. I also walked across the street to this casino and I played Texas Holden with her, with my girlfriend's dad to like Christmas, to one in the morning on Christmas. So it's pretty great. What a night. Next feed of strength here. Yeah. So the next little award here is I want to call, it's all made up and the points don't matter. And this award, the sub award here is the excuse. The excuse, when somebody asks you like, oh, why did you lose in fantasy this week? When you just go like, it doesn't, it's actually all random. You know how that's like the classic excuse. Why did you lose in fantasy? Well, I mean, fantasy is skill, but it's actually mostly random and injury loss. It's just variance. Yeah. It's not really my fault. This was a big week for the It's All Random excuse. So among the top 10 running backs this week in fantasy, Cam Acres was among them, Deontay Foreman, James Cook, all in the top 10.

Among those not in the top 20 at running back, Dalvin Cook, Aaron Jones, Josh Jacobs, Miles Sanders, Christian McCaffrey. KMaker scored all five of those guys combined. Oh my gosh. That's not great. And if you go to wide receiver, among the top 10 wide receivers this week, Kendrick Bourne, Isaiah Hodgins, Trenton Irwin, Craig Dorch. Among those not in the top 20 at wide receiver, you know, Jamar Chase, Mike Evans, Stefan Diggs, DeAndre Hopkins, Kendrick Bourne outscored all four of those guys combined. So this was one of those frustrating weeks where like the projections at the start of the week

when you're facing somebody because you have like Delvin Cook and Stefan Diggs they're projected to put up 32 points and you're playing like the six seed guy who snuck into the playoffs and has to start Isaiah Hodgins because this entire team was hurt

and then you lose I feel like this was a big week for that. Dude I saw a lot there was a lot of so we're in the semis in most leagues there was a lot of really good like you know first place team second place teams

that scored like 80 points this week yeah I mean you didn't mention sad way to go out you didn't even mention the quarterbacks too like if you had Justin Fields and didn't get to 10 points

I think this, we were talking about this a couple weeks ago, if you after let's say like 10 weeks into the season got into a time machine and went back to your draft and just did the draft knowing how the first 10 weeks of the season left, I think you would have been iced in the playoffs so far because you would have happened it up

like if you would have been like oh I'll get like Nick Chubbs and Josh Jacobs and Tony Pollard and I'll get like all the good series up top like Diggs and Devante and like you yeah you would have had 60 points if you had known and you would have gotten Merked by the Jerich McKinnon and Cam Acres combo this week with who have been out of it. Dude,

the Jalen Hertz thing was really tough on me personally, I think. Like, I had to start Kenny Pickett. I told you guys, I was trying to decide between Kenny Pickett and Russell Wilson after being the number one team in the league all year long. And I lost. I lost bad.

Luckily, though, for people in like 1 QB leagues who had Hertz, they could have probably added Minchew and Minchew was goody at 24 points. Minchoo was not on the waivers in my league. Someone freaking, like, I think they were just like, you know, sandbagging me or whatever. But sandbagged son of it. No, Gardner & Shoe was phenomenal. He played great.

25 points. He handed Patrick Mahomes the MVP award probably because Mahomes had his little diving MVP moment with that touchdown pile on move. Oh, yeah. And then now it's like the Eagles, 34, that hurts. But before we got off K-Makers Award, I know it was Christmas Day, it felt more like Easter. Because I swear to God, this was a resurrection. It was like everyone thought Kermakers was dead. But the true believers, they put him in a cave.

They put him in a cave. He somehow escaped that cave. You guys, we mustn't look at this. We literally, I have to treat this like the lost arc. Just don't look at it. I can't, I'm not going to think about it. You know what, Craig? You are, I wish I do the Bible better.

I don't know who, like, you're based. Craig was first on the Camacres train. You were driving the Camacres train. And then you abandoned it. Yeah, I was like doing flying coach with McVeigh. And him and I were like talking off camera about acres and how he loves him and he's going to be great. And he's going to use him every which way. And then he tears his Achilles

and, you know, we don't need to get into it. It's all been depressing since then. And I wanted him to be good when he came back. He was horrific and now I guess he's resurrected. Literally the number one way. I can't believe what you just said, that Camakers, who, again, wanted to quit football a month or two ago,

Dalvin Cook, Aaron Jones, Josh, Jacobs, Miles Sanders, Christian McCaffrey combined, did not have as many points as Camacres. Like, is this is against the Broncos defense too. Yes. He's the number one running back in fantasy this week. Like, I can't think of a more unlikely week 16 scenario at running back.

This does not typically happen. No, because there's always things like this. Like last year, Josh Kelly, I think, or ended up having, was it Josh Kelly or, no, it was the guy who got cut. He's on the lines now. Oh, Justin Jackson. Justin Jackson are like 30 points.

But at least that was still like, there were COVID rules and like he was the backup. Like this is like, this offense hasn't been able to run at all, all year, Baker signs. And, oh, I, all this is absolutely disgusting. Oh, speaking of which Baker.

has just been incredible. I mean, it's... Do you guys think he's going to get a contract to be a starter or just a high-end backup? I think he's going to see. He should just stay with the Rams as the backup. Yeah, he probably would be best off doing that. Yeah, because staff, like, if Stafford, you know,

he's more back problems or elbow problems, like, there's a really solid chance that he could, you know, get back in the starter. Plus, it's like, obviously he works well in this offense. They, you know, he has affinity for it. I mean, he had no, like, absolutely zero interest league-wide, you know, prior to this. obviously he'd like

flamed out with Panthers but even before that there wasn't much interest in him so I would stay with the Rams definitely all right next feed of strength DK so the Jags

another team that is just like back from the dead I had kind of written them off as as you know just another crappy team in that division but they actually might win this division now they beat the Jets 19 to 3

I think ushered in the official end to the Zach Wilson era Zach Wilson got benched for Chris Treveller this was a couple days ago now The rich man's Trace McSorley Dude This has been

To me like The craziest and like It's almost like saddest thing about this whole Zach Wilson thing Is like literally anytime any other quarterback on this team They could just pick up a guy off the street Literally anybody That's two and two years now between Josh Johnson last year And Chris Treveller this year

That is two practice squad guns Chris Treveller Josh Johnson As soon as any of these guys get in This offense starts humming And Zach Wilson cannot do absolutely fucking anything otherwise. It's just like the biggest, it's like the starkest contrast. So anyways, obviously, like,

Zach Wilson got benched in this game for Chris Trevely who cannot throw football. Like, he actually can't throw football. And yeah, I mean, that's it for him. They're publicly, like, kind of standing behind him and say it's not the last of Zach Wilson, but the reports coming after the game were essentially, like, the Jets are clearly moving on from Zach Wilson after this. He needs a new change of scenery. This is coming after, like, the whole darn,

debacle, every other quarterback that's happened for the Jets of the past, you know, four decades or whatever it is. So, yeah, that was interesting in its own, right? But I also wanted to bring up one more thing about this game. Evan Ingram all of a sudden looks like an elite tight end

in the NFL. What's going on with this? Doug Peterson, the tight end whisper. This was kind of like a mini, mini storyline at the start of the season was like, oh, Evan Ingram, one year, nine million at the Jax, Doug Peterson, maybe? Dude, every ingram in the last month, the last four weeks. He is seventh among all skill players in points.

By far, the tight end won in that group. Seventh among all skill players. Like, if you have him, he's a league winner for you, like, potentially. Yeah. So I was texting Highfits this weekend because I traded Evan Ingraham to High Fitz in Dynasty for a third round rookie pick. And I'm like, you son of a bitch. Like this is going to be like an elite court of, or elite tight end in the NFL, apparently.

I will say generally speaking, all the tight ends, the longer their hair is, the better they've been this year. because Tjah Hawkinson has flow. George Kiddell had like his best game of the year for the second week in a row. Tyler freaking Igby with Baker has been incredible. And having it ingram, his hair is kind of like,

it's longer than that. Dulcich. Dulcich had a touchdown this week. He's got long flowed locks. There's a direct correlation to if you score touchdowns you have to, your hair must be like this tall to ride the ride. I didn't know that Evan Ingram had long hair. It's not long.

It's not as long, but it's definitely longer than like other than, longer than I guess Shane Zilstra. Another guy I wanted to shout out along with Evan Ingram. I want to give the Brandon Cook's award for the player we don't want to admit as good at fantasy or at real football, really, is James Connor.

Right. Just being good. Since he came back from injury week 10, he's the number two running back in fantasy. Wow. Just cranking out 20-point game after 20-point game. He's been super consistent.

He's another dead zone running back who has been really good this year when healthy. And he's been doing it without Kyle in the last two weeks. Like James Connor, man, hats off to you. He's interesting because the Cardinals essentially were just like, you know what,

we're going to just cut all our other running backs. Let's just like roll with this guy. And if he gets hurt, we're fucked. You know, Benjamin? You know, Benjamin. They pitched the ball to Kianti Ingram, and he just dropped it. And they basically handed the ball in the game. Yeah, Tate Connor.

I was as bad as my Josh Jacobs. Don't draft him. Take it was in August. I think that I hopefully salvaged it for anyone who took my advice to draft or to trade for James Connor. Like no one's going to talk about James Connor next year, but James Conner is just good. Yeah. He's also like, like, it's like, too, but the opposite.

it. Like, the more he gets rattled, the better he gets, I swear to God, for James Connor. James Connor gets hurt and gets better. He's like baby Derek Henry

in that way. Oh, you know what? He got that from Ben Rothesburg in Pittsburgh. Every time Ben got hurt, he's like, all right, I'm ready to play now.

That's basically James Connor. Every time he twisted his ankle, I was like, here we go. That's true. Coming back on like a wheelchair. Adversity. Yeah. Those are the feats of strength,

but now it's time for the most important part, which is the hearing of grievances. I got all the problems with you people. Dude, Devanti, Adams and Stefanthakes. Oh my God.

Oh, Adams is Adams has been just crushing people. Diggs, two catches for 26 yards this week. Devante Adams, two catches for 15 yards this week. Here are, I mean, I can't even go on to tell you, but just a random sampling. But the last three weeks, here are some players who had more fantasy points that Stefan Diggs or less three weeks. Greg Dorch. Dorched.

Ray Ray McLeod. Amari Rogers, who was cut from Green Bay. And it was just a Houston tech set now. Rashid Shaheed for the Saints. Love that guy. None of us know where it came from. Khalif Raymond for the Lions. Better than Stefan Diggs the last three weeks.

Also, you didn't point out. Greg Dorsch did that in one game was better than Stefan Diggs in three games. George's only played one game in the last three weeks, and it's still better than Stefan Dix. Dorched. I think Dorge is good often. This is a tangent. Dorge is actually good. The problem is that Diggs and Devonte were bad, D-K.

That's the problem. No, I'm just like, I love Darch. Anyway. This is an important burn book. Can we just transition right into Burnbook here? because there's a ton of nominations. And, you know, I feel like with the burn book, it has to be, it kind of represents like somebody

who's been on the decline for a few weeks. She's usually not just like a one week outlier. But Diggs and Adams have not at double-digit points for three straight weeks. They've been your fantasy serial killers. Mike Evans, we've already burned, so we don't have to deal with him anymore. DeAndre Hopkins, another guy who's been killing you.

I know. Who do we give it to? I mean, I was going to bring up DeAndre Hopkins. He killed me, dude, this week. Like, 10 targets, one. But that's not his fault, that's Trace McSorley. That's the thing. Yeah, that's how I was going to follow it up.

I think Craig talking about the bills and the weather with digs, I just have become radicalized. I would give it a digson in Devante. Just burn him. Well, Danes has played three straight bad weather games. If you look at Devonte, he's played at New England or at the ramps, weather's been fine. Then he played in New England, or no, at home against New England, and then at Pitt. So he's only had one bad weather game, Deontade, Devonte Adams.

two dome games. I think that qualifies as a burn. Diggs has been playing in snow for three weeks. Dude, he was the wide receiver one overall, like coming into that, those three games. I think it's got to be Adams. Or we just burn weather. We're just,

hey, I'm on board with that, dude. We had, like, this giant freeze storm in my area. Literally, it was snowy. It snowed like a foot, and then it rained, and it was literally just like a giant sheet of ice. Have you guys seen some of these videos from Seattle? There's all these videos going around like Instagram and like TikTok of like people literally just parked cars started sliding down the hill.

And like that's like a plinkowing down the hill off cars and stuff. We got an we got an email from a guy named Sam who said, I'll just read it right here. He says the answer to Craig's quandary about weather or not to knock down cold weather receivers in preseason rankings is painfully obvious. Draft those guys reap the benefits of their warm early season games and then trade them before it gets cold. This should actually raise their rankings at the start of the year for you. We just inflate Stefan Diggs every season and trade them in week nine. I kind of love that. Pump and dump is the pump and dump for the cold weather guys.

That's a new badge. That's a new badge for next year, you guys. Pump and dump. Dude. Okay, that's we got a. The climate change rankings? Oh, geez. I'm telling you, that's the thing.

Climate change is good. Yeah, that's our market edge. We just need to build domes. We need to build more domes in this country. What happened to our civic pride and domes? I'm going to start writing blurbs for guys in December, and it's going to say, Stefan Diggs, parentheses, climate change is not a top 20 wide receiver for me this week.

Pump it. We got to remember that. You're going to get, like, people talking about it. We got to get Matt Damon, like, on a commercial talking about this guy, how Grady is. I think Matt Damon is barred from advertising anything for, like, a five-year ban. Tom Brady, like, the laser eyes. Larry David did a big ad.

No, we should have Larry David being here like, yeah, it'll be, no, like that doesn't work. No, it would have to be Larry being like, eh, the snow? What's the big deal? Playing the snow. Get over. That's what you've paid for. All right, weather.

You've been burned. Yeah, I hate weather. That means we burned and going backward. Weather, Mark Andrews, Mike Evans, George Kittle, Alvin, Camer, Corrie. Kiddell, by the way, that didn't age well. No, it did not. No, it did not. No, Russell Wilson, which did age well.

Justin Herbert, Steelers, all of them, that age. A.T. D.J. and Elijah Moore, Alan Robinson, Kyle Pitts, Baker, Mayfield. Cole, Kemet, and Darnal Mooney, and then week one, we burned to Kammakers. The number one running back 16 weeks later. Incredible. Revenge served cold. And we have one more.

We'll do one more championship burn to end of Burma for 2022. All right. For waivers, let's just get right into it. Again, if you know how we do this, we basically just, we each pick a position or a player, we want from that position to add. And then if we have the same when we do trivia tiebreaker, D-K. Wait.

Oh. Before we start, I told you guys last week that I've been keeping track of our trivia scores the entire season. We have doubled points for the playoffs. And now this is the last week of waivers, right? We're not going to probably do this for week 18. Oh, my God. So I've tallied the points.

I just want to let you guys know, let the listeners know where we all stand before we go into our final three showdowns here. So after, what has it been, 16 weeks, first place Danny Kelly Really? With 21 points

Wow tied for second slash third hyphids and I with 17 we are both down four from DK geez

wow but now the way we're doing it for playoffs is a correct answer is worth four second place

is worth two and third place is worth negative two I thought it was pretty fun was it that much last week I thought it was like

three two and negative one No, we doubled everything. That was the, we're doubling to the playoffs. Oh, shit. Okay. Man, no pressure. Why'd you tell me this beforehand?

Now I'm nervous. I had to jinx you. I'm like an announcer before a kicker. You're saying, you know, kicks a 50-yarder. Well, thank you for that, Craig. So, D.K., with absolutely no pressure whatsoever. Who's your running back for this week? All right, I'm going with Tyler Algier of the Falcons,

who just snuck in, sneaked in to eligibility on this. Again, with Caleb Hundley out, with a torn Achilles, I believe. It's turned into basically a two-man rotation, him in Cordarel Patterson. He had 18 carries plus four catches in this last game. Falcons, you know, they are what they are. But Algeria has actually been running really well.

And every time I look up, I feel like he's making a big play, like breaking tackles, jumping over a guy, barreling through someone. He's one of these players. I think he's actually good, but he's also getting a lot of volume.

I had Tyler Adjiller as well. It's the same thing. He's just starting running back now. I did as well. I'll play in the Cardinals next week, who despite Tom Brady's best efforts are not good on defense. The only other,

the other guy I was close to picking was Gus Edwards, but that's contingent on if Dobbins is hurt. Dobbins, like, didn't play in the second half last week, and if Lamar comes back and it's just Lamar and Gus, I actually maybe would go with him. Right. Right. A bit more up in the air with that, so for this, I'll stick with Algear right now. Dobbins has been so frustrating

this year. I mean, I know that it's mostly injury related, but man, it's been tough. All right, so we do the Alger showdown time, Craig? Yeah, it is the, what should be? This is like final show. This is the Tyler on year. It's the final showdown. All right.

Maybe do that and say the gong. I don't think we could just steal Europe's song. All right. This one's from Chris. Chris. Chris. How many touchdowns did Craig's arch nemesis, Austin Hooper, have in his high school football career?

At Dalai Sal? Oh, Jesus. This is very much slanted towards Craig. Why? First of all, Craig knew what high school he went to, so that's an advantage. No, it's like he's going to overthink it. It was me knowing where he went to school. How many touchdowns he did he score? Knew who he was in high school.

Maybe you heard. He dunked on Craig. There was no dunking. He definitely beat basketball. I know, I just kept telling the story wrong on purpose to make it more and more embarrassing. It's work. Yeah, it's working.

Okay, so how many touchdowns did he score? Can you answer the question of what position he played in high school? I'm pretty sure he played tight end Okay You know how a lot of Quarterbacks Which tight ends No no he wasn't a quarterback

He wasn't a quarterback Okay Because that would change shit Like obviously quarterbacks You know How many touchdowns do you score In high school? Yeah

I got my answer I don't know I mean this is very hard Because sometimes it's like I don't know There's not a lot of receiving touchdowns in high school a lot of the times I know

Okay I got a number Three Two One Okay Wow Very close. High fitz said 15, correct said 18, I said 20.

What's the answer? Shit, I'm on the outlier. I hope I don't fuck out. It's going to be like six. He got five. Fuck. Dude. So when I get negative four, this is fucking me over.

No, no, you get negative two. Oh, okay. Thank God. And what do I get? Hyfitz gets four. I get two. D.K. So does that mean Hyfitz took the lead?

Because I got, that's like a big swing right there. Correct. High offense is now up to, and then D.K. and I are tied. Oh, my God. So I'm in the first place. That's incredible. But now it's a two-point game. Craig, you're next. Who are you taking after Tyler O'Jer's gone? Again, like the whole Gus Edwards thing, if the health works out with, if Dobbins is not playing in Lamar's back, I'd probably go with Gus. If not, I feel like I got to go with Chuba Hubbard. You know, these weird-ass Panthers are just, like, running the shit out of the ball.

Weird ass Panthers. Panthers get Tampa Bay next week. I know, Chuba and Deonté Foreman both had 100 yards at half time last week. Chuba's getting a lot of work and he's been decent, so I'll go with Chuba. I'm going to take either, so you're going to take either Gus, who is, you know, again, like it depends on some things. I'm going to go with Zach Moss also, just because we haven't seen it's Monday morning. That's the other thing, we don't know. And we don't know what he did tonight, what he's going to do.

Maybe he, like, scores 20 points. Maybe he gets three carries. We don't know. but right now that's who I would choose. If Zach Moss does great, I think it's safe to say we all would have taken Zach Moss. Yeah.

I think the question is Dion Jackson. If they kind of split the game and they each get like 12 carries, the question is where Dion Jackson would slot in. Yeah. All right. So again, Alger, Hubbard, Gus Edwards, Zach Moss.

That's kind of like the priority list. And if Zach Moss goes off, obviously he goes up to list. And then same for Dion Jackson. If he outplays that. And then also James Goet for the Bills. It's not ideal, but he certainly would be next to the list. I mean, I would have him on this list higher, but he was a little bit high in terms of

roster ship. But yeah, I'd also add him to. I think he's kind of started. He's played like 40% snaps last like four games, I believe, ish around there. And so he's obviously got a bigger role in this offense. All right. Next up, wide receiver. I think we're all the same guy.

I have Johan Dotson for Washington. I assume that we all do. Dek did you have John Dotson? Yeah. Yeah, probably. Well, it came down to, came down to Chark and Dotson for me, DJ Chark. Shark, aside from getting a dud against essentially

Soss Gardner and the Jets, he's got double digit points in three of the last four weeks. Gough is still kind of thrown it around a lot. The lions seem to be like an environment for a lot of points. And now we have this Carson Wentz versus Heineke thing happening with the commanders. I don't know exactly what to read into that. Ultimately, I think Dotson is a great pick.

But I'm going to go with Chark on this one. Wow. I'm going with Dotson. I mean, the guy's the number one wide receiver. Like, he just is. This rookie class has an awesome. He made some incredible catches. Actually, I'm changing my answer.

I'm going with Dotson, too. Chark has, I had Chark second. He's been good. But Dotson is just like from a talent perspective, I think has the capability to go off any given week now. I think, what do you read into this like quarterback situation, though? I guess that was the only thing kind of holding me back,

but I guess it doesn't matter that much. I don't care. He's been great with He plays. He was great with Wentz, to be honest. Early in the year, yeah. Dotson reminds me so much of baby D'Andre Hopkins. He's 511 like Hopkins is, but you think of him as 6'3 because he just plays so big.

Goes up and gets it. He's got, at 8 starts this year, he's seven touchdowns. He's incredible. DeAndre's not 511. When are you talking about it? Yes, he is? No, he is. Hopkins is like 6-1.

No, he's not. He just Googled it. He's 6-1. We just talked about this like two weeks ago. Unless you're saying they're like fudging numbers. I have seen him in person and I don't think that's accurate. Oh, conspiracy. I have seen him in person.

I am taller than Deonca. I am as tall as Deonre Hopkins. Maybe you're 6'1. I think I'll take that trick. No, the hair's doing a lot of work there. All right. So we're going to, I change my answer to that. I agree with you guys.

I just love him. I think he's awesome. He's really good. If the commanders get like a real quarterback, their receiving core is pretty legit. Like their entire offensive. team is pretty solid. They got two good running backs.

They've got Dotson. Curtis Samuel, I think, in the right Friskey number three. Yeah, like he's a good number three. And then obviously Terry McLaren's number one. He's awesome. Yeah. All right, let's do it.

Can't wait for it. This is a big one because I really want Johnson. This is the Jehan Dodson final showdown time. This is from Josh. Josh. Since you guys started playing Tom Tom Tom Club's Genius of Love on the pod,

I Carries fantasy, get stuck in my head, which samples it. So in honor of that, how many different artists have sampled Tom Tom Club's Genius of Love? Wow. That's a good question. Wow. Okay. So are we factoring in like a big booty type of thing where they like remix it into a song? I don't know about that.

First of all, I've no idea how big booties. How does this guy count? Did he do like Shazam? I think so, for example, did he take a catalog of the entire music database of the world? So when Lotto does big energy and that samples fantasy, that definitely counts as sampling Tom Tom. Right, right, right.

But I'm more talking about like remixes, like a DJ earworm, like mashup type stuff. Does that all count? Like girl talk. I don't know. I mean, this is why these questions are unanswered. Because I would guess way higher if it was like anytime that beat has been worked into like a mashup. I think a sample is

I don't know Yeah what's the definition of a sample versus A sample is when you interpolate right I'm not Cole Cushner The word I don't know Interpolate That is that that is what it is right I don't know yeah

But like is it not interpolating When you use it in a mashup I don't get it I don't know Let's let's go with Okay No All right

Okay hold on here So we're we're trying We're assuming that like mashups don't count or are we just doing whatever we're on. I don't think we can answer that question, Craig. And this is how many songs, not how many times, right? Or is that the same question technically?

How many artists? How many artists? Not songs. Okay. I guess that's also the same thing. Oh, I got my number. You got yours? Yeah, I got it.

All right. Three, two, one. All right. Oh my God. We are so off. Is it a lot? Is it a lot? Well, okay.

So, High Fitz put 21. Craig put nine, I put five. What's the answer? The answer is 28. That's a lot. I got last. I figured I could get the four off the top of my head. Telling me that I was winning.

I went from first to last. Oh, well. So it's 28 different artists have sampled Tom Tom Club. He says, notable versions include Dr. Jekyllum Mr. Hyde's genius rap, Grandmaster Flash and Furious, it's nasty, Mariah Carey's fantasy, executioner's genius of love, two, and two,

a lot of's big energy. All right. So Hyattitz is now at 25, D-K is now at 17, and I am now at 21. So, D-K is out of the running now. Wow. Thanks, Craig. God damn. I have to get first, and Hyphys has to get last for us to, for me to win.

No, that's not true. I just have to get first to win. Actually, wait, that's also not true. This negative points thing is just a bunch of things. Wait, no, second gets you two. No, so I'm wrong. So Hyphids, you have to get last, I have to get first. That's the only way I can come back and win.

This sounds like the playoff tiebreaker scenarios where it's like, you know what? Unless it's they win and they lose, anything worse than that, just don't even tell me. If there's like four teams that need a tie to get in the playoffs, I don't care. I don't tell me back. All right, so tight end there. Wow. All right. So this is pretty big.

D.K. Yo. Age before Beauty. Who's your number one tight end player in our week 17? I'm going with Juan Johnson again, I guess. He did a dud this week. Of course, Dalton completed grand total of eight passes in this game. is the worst weather game, maybe of the season.

But yeah, just going back, obviously Johnson's had a pretty big role in this offense. He's scoring a lot of touchdowns. There's not a lot of options I don't think, unless I miss someone really obvious this week. So I'm sticking with Joanne Johnson. I agree. I also went with Joanne Johnson.

Chris Alave's still out with a hamstring injury. We don't know if he's in a return. I'm just throwing away last week because of the weather. Yeah. I did the same thing. Okay. I considered Tyler Conklin with the Jets just because Zach Wilson's going away,

and Mike White hopefully is coming back, but even then I kind of, yeah, just rolled the dice of Joanne Johnson. I think we've nominated Joanne Johnson and Tyler Conklin for like six straight weeks. It's crazy. Should a shout up Taseham Hill at all? He's going to touch down.

There you go. Yeah, he had like 10 points. Good for him. Okay. What did he finish dead last? Yeah. Had a good day though. Oh, man. All right.

All right. This is it. This is the final showdown. This is the Juan Johnson final 2022. ringer fantasy football show showdown. Can I just like take this one off as like pretend I have an ankle injury and I'm just like kind of, you know, not play the last couple weeks and shut it down for the season. You're like, you know what fantasy?

You know what fantasy when you lose in round one of the playoffs? And then the next week you're playing for fifth or sixth in that weird bracket. They just kind of shove you in the corner. They're like, no, no, no, you're playing for fifth. Yeah. Like I give a fuck. D.K., you can still get second. I'm going to play.

I'm going to play. Silver's nothing to scoff. Very first year, I asked, Craig. High Fitz is like scouring the internet for questions that he knows he'll be able to answer the best. Well, it's the last one of the year. I'm looking for a good one. Wait, wait, wait. Shouldn't D.K.?

I feel like D.K. should pick this question. He's impartial. I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, Fitt says it in front of him. Just go. I don't care. I've lost all taste for life, all lust for life. What a crumble from D.K. What's this?

It says like a bucks level crumble from last. Who else Carmel last week? D.K's the Matt Ryan of trivia. Dude, seriously. Oh my God. I found a very fitting trivia question to go out of for our final showdown time trivia question of 2022. Okay.

This is from Si. I need a W. This is so good. How many square feet was Cloice Boxes Mansion? The same one from the initial episodes of the TV show Dallas. I've seen a picture of his mansion. It's the same one from the TV show Dallas.

That's what he said. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. They used his mansion in like the show Dallas. Yeah. I don't think he filmed it. I don't know if they did it. I don't know if this was,

Craig, this was after he killed 100 Nazis in Europe, came back and formed a billion dollar company. I'm going to, as everyone from that generation has done. There's no way at this should end any other way than how many square feet. Cloist Box's mansion. That's so funny.

It's the one that he lived with. Fern. Furn box? Of course. Fern, Fern box. Furn box car. Furn box car. It's where him and Bois would come on stay over. I bet he had so many more bedrooms than Russell Wilson's.

We need to learn more about Boyce. I want to know what he did in his life. Boyce Box. Okay. How many square feet? Mansion. And this is like the, like, 50s, this is in Texas. This is in Texas.

Right. The houses there are just gaudy. Don't try and anchor me to something. you bastard whatever you fucked me over I don't care I told you

the score how is that I don't want to hear from either of you about this because you two actually are like own homes

so I don't want to hear anything about like advantage my home is not going to be as large as you've done it three

two one oh 30,000 square feet I don't know man that's like a large house do you know how big

that is 7400 square feet that's what I was trying to say Okay, I said 20,000, Craig said 7,400, hyphen said 30,000. I bet you're like 10,000 square feet. How rich was this guy? He was a billionaire.

He was a cement company, Craig. Oh, he was a billionaire? I don't think I knew that. Yeah. I was so wrong. Uh-oh. The answer is 14,000. Okay.

Oh, no. No, I came last. Craig came in first. No, no, Craig came in. No, Craig. I've done it. No, no, no. Wait, hold on.

Hold on. That's not how math works. Six. No, I'm not. I'm barely. And I'm 6,600 off. Yes, so D-Ks at first, Greg's the second. So I win.

I won. Let's go. This isn't how I wanted it to end. I didn't want Danny. Johnson. Give me the trivia title for 2022. Boom. This is the most unfortunate way this could have ended, Craig.

You know what sucks is I had typed in 8100. I deleted it and put in 7,400. Oh, son of a bitch. Never in doubt. get you Juan Johnson. Now you losers have to fight over. I don't care. I don't give it shit.

I'll have talent. Okay. So, wait, I got second. No. Oh, no, you're right.

I should. I go last. Hyphins gets last pick. I get your, yeah, you get your one. I'm taking Conflint and then Hyphitz gets whoever.

Oh, so I have to. Honestly, so this is right around the point because all the good titans are probably gone. Mm-hmm. In your league, Chigo Kwanquo is doing with Malik Willis.

So as much as we like him, Malik Willis, I think kind of makes, kind of makes him like irrelevant because he can't throw the ball. Right. John Smith for the Patriots is out there, like, because Hunter Henry got hurt. I don't know if he's going to play this week, but Johnner Smith for the Patriots being an option, I got to tell you, at this point, I would just take Tayson Lowe.

Is he out there still? I would definitely take him to. I won. How did you win? You were up four. You told me that the only way was if you came in first and I came in last. It was wrong. You just had to come in last.

I did this time first. did it for what? He's just a master manipulator. He's a psychological terrorist. You heard me stumbling over and I was trying to do it while we were recording. But you were up four. So I was like, all right, if you get last, you go negative four. You're Carrie Lake.

If he gets last, he gets negative two, I thought. Oh, is that right? If you get last, oh, if you get last, you get negative two. Hyvitz, you were at 25. So now you lose two, puts you 23. I got second, which is two. We've tied. Oh, my God.

What did I get? So we've ended with high fits at 23, me at 23, and DK at 21. Wait, you know what this? Wait, so we tied on our season-long tiebreaker. You know what this means. I think we have to do a trivia. Do a runoff. We got to do a runoff.

All the tiebreaker. Yeah. Wow. So this is for the trivia tiebreaker to end all trivia to decide the champion of 2022. It's from Max. Max. Wait, Craig, you didn't even do the showdown time. Oh, yeah.

Well, what don't I even call? All this. This is the Ring or Fantasy football show. This is the ultimate final final showdown time.

This is from Max. Max. The following list contains the top five most used songs in movies. Select which one

you think is the number one most used song. Oh, that's interesting. The 5R. It Takes 2 by Rob Bass and DJ Easy Rock.

Push It by Salton Peppa, Spirit in the Sky by Norman Greenbaum. Yeah. You can't touch this by MC Hammer and under pressure by Queen and David Bowie. Oh, wow. I think I know it's one I would choose. I'm not in this, but I'm still thinking. So those are the top five.

It's just which is number one? Yes, we got to figure which one is number one. What an interesting top five. And if we wanted to, he also said that we could decide the tiebreaker of who gets closer to the user score on IMDB for Stepbrothers. But 10 out of 10, that's an easy guess. Okay. I have an answer, I guess, I think.

I got mine typed out. All right. For all the marbles. Three, two, one. Oh, okay, I said under pressure. Craig said spirit in the sky. I was going to say under pressure, which means it's probably wrong. Okay.

Number one is you can't touch this. See, both wrong. But number two is under pressure. and Spirit in the sky is tied for three. So does that mean you won or did you have to pick the correct answer? Hyphids was higher technically. Yeah. Oh, so that's how we're doing it.

All right. Wow. There we go. Never end out, baby. Wow. Never in doubt. I survived the recount. The election is certified.

So the number one song in movie history is, is you can't touch this by MC Hammer. It's the word on the street. I honestly can't. I can't think off the top of my head of a movie I've seen that in. I mean, I'm not doubting the claim. I just, I can't think off the top of my head of it. I know.

Interesting. Email us if you know. I won't have a beard in the sky because it's been around since like the late 60s, right? Also, it's just like in every space movie. You know, like every movie about NASA. Also, I feel like it's played a lot of war movies. All right.

Well, I want to celebrate my victory, but I do think we should mention streaming defenses because it's a little of fantasy championship people have gone through all this. Fine. Okay. I want to shout out a few that I think are available. Commanders are playing the Browns, and Sean Watson's looked awful. Yeah.

I just think that they're so ripe for turnovers. So I think commanders is all the dolphins playing the Patriots. I mean, I feel like most of the Patriots highlights these ways are the offense chasing defenders going the wrong way in the field. So the Cardinals playing the Falcons. Desmond Ritter's been off. I'm not saying the Cardinals' defense is good, but Desmond Ritter has been like abominable. And then also, honestly, the Jack Horse defense against the Texans, those are. all seem, I mean, if you're out here about to cut

the Broncos defense, I hope you moved on if you had them, but I think anything else, I mean, I thought about the cults of the Giants, but the Giants' outfits has actually been kind of solid. No, I think that's good. I mean, the events are so hard to predict. I mean, the bucks against Trace McSorley put up eight points. Fucking kidding me.

All right. And then once again, just kickers. Get the guys in domes. I don't care if it's going to be 60 degrees. Get the guys, get the kickers in domes. Yes. All right. I think that's all we got. Wow.

Do I wear the championship belt well? Does it look good on me? Yeah, that's fine. I'm upset. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you to everyone who emailed us to Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com. That's our final trivia, but email you can email us two jargons to the live for the

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automatically. Thank you and everyone who did email us. This year we appreciate it. But most of all, thank you, Lorne. Lord. Lorne. Thank you, MC Hammer. Thank you. The Queen and Dave Bowie for under pressure. There you go. First time I heard Spirit in the sky. Can you guess what movie? Apollo 13. Remember the Titans. Oh, never seen it. I was thinking about on the way of Because I don't know if you saw The Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas special, but I was playing the Guardians and the Galaxy soundtracks for one and two on the way up. And I was wondering, that is, it's not even a soundtrack as much as it's kind of a list of some of the best songs from the 70s.

And I'm like, does it even count among the best soundtrack list? Because I feel like they had more money to throw at all these music rights than any other movie ever. Like the budget for Guardians and Galaxy and music had to be higher than any movie, right? Oh, I thought you were talking about Remember the Titans. Yeah, I mean, probably Other than like a Martin Scorsese film Where he just like pranks out Rolling Stone songs Yeah

DK, you gotta watch Remember the Titans Forrest Gump had a lot of good songs Yeah Remember the Titans is a tour de force Of a soundtrack It is like the greatest hits Of the fucking sevens It's like Cat Stevens, Credence, Clearwater

Norman Greenbaum It's very good Okay Also thank you, Cloe Spock's Shout out Cloy's expansion What was it? 14,000 30, a 30,000 square foot phone?

I mean, that's like Russell Wilson almost. Yes, that's what I was thinking of. I think of was 20,000. That's what I was thinking of. I don't know. They got 10,000 acre ranches in Texas. I don't know what he had. For $300,000.

It's amazing. Move to Texas. Happy holidays to everyone. I think that Festivus is over because I think I pinned Craig. So now the holiday is officially over. Holiday is officially over. Also, because of the holiday week,

we mentioned it last week, but in case people didn't listen to the last week's power hour, which you should. That was the last power hour. We won't be doing a power hour this week. We're still doing the Ringer NFL draft show

and we'll do a Thursday preview or a Friday morning preview, I should say. And then the week after, we will be back in the new year with the fantasy rewatching. Boom. Goodbye, everyone.