The Ringer NFL Show - Week 18 Senioritis, Bad-Vibes Playoff Teams, and Fixing Meaningless NFL Games

Episode Date: January 5, 2024

The guys preview Week 18, starting with the game to decide the AFC East between Miami and Buffalo. They also talk about why almost every team has bad vibes heading into the playoffs, and what they would do to remove meaningless games at the end of the season (8:35). Check out our Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings, waiver wire pickups, and more! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens and Jack Sanders Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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That's one of our favorite. It's my favorite episode. maybe we do the entire season is the fantasy rewatchables instead of trivia. And then for the playoffs and everything, we're still recapping them Sunday nights, Monday mornings for you

with the whole playoffs and everything, including Week 18, still got a preview all the playoff rounds. And then Wednesdays instead of power, it's gonna be the NFL draft show. DK. Craig, Solek, covering everything draft, cover the whole off season

in the NFL draft show. Eventually we'll be coming to do with that twice a week, but for the Super Bowl, or through the Super Bowl once a week on Wednesdays. So that's still three episodes a week for you guys.

So again, we're not going anywhere. not leaving. Not fucking leave it. Okay, week 18. So on one hand, incredible week 18, because 20 teams are still alive. I believe it's the most team still alive for the playoffs in the final week of the season in 40 years.

That's pretty amazing. On the other hand, kind of a weird week. Don't know how to feel. Got to tell you, despite that fact, despite that there's still a lot of playoff leverage here happening, I kind of feel like I have senioritis.

You know what I mean? Like the fantasy season's over. It's like this week is senior. skip week. Let's just go wakeboarding. Let's just like go. It's like we already got into college. Finals don't matter. It just doesn't feel like a real week. It's like half the league, we're not half the league, obviously,

but like the Rams aren't playing any starters. There's like the list of starting quarterbacks this week is just absolutely ludicrous. It just doesn't feel like a weird week. It feels truly like this is nostalgia. I feel like I have senioritis right now. Like the season's over, right? Like we can move on.

So if you are playing week eight, We do have our week 18 rankings of fantasy football.3.com. You're a psycho. Track of who's play. Yeah. It's honestly people's commissioners made a mistake.

That's really it. Right. And so you can check that out, but you got to see his play. Again, I mean, my God, the quarterback's playing this week. This is pure sex.

Pure sex here. Easton Stick versus Blaine Gabbard. I'm racking my brain to figure out who's, who these two teams are. So I think that's the Chargers and the Chiefs. Aiden O'Connell versus Jarrett Stidham.

Raiders, Broncos, just scintillating. Jeff Driscoll, who is apparently still in the NFL. Can't believe that man is still employed. Has he been on the Browns of the whole season? There's no way, right? I don't know. No, I think Jeff Driscoll's parents are probably surprised that Jeff Driscoll's playing. If you guys had offered me $1 million to tell you what team Jeff Driscoll was on before yesterday,

I would have not won it. I don't think he was on until yesterday. How much money do we think Jeff's getting paid? Hundreds of thousands of dollars. What's the minimum for like you to show up for a game? It's like a hundred grand? Flacco got 100K. Sounds right.

That was the lowest I had seen for a quarterback. D.K., would you risk your life as a quarterback in an NFL game for $100,000? For a hundred grand? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. But like whatever it happens to you physically, that's your life. You would do it?

No, that's kind of how it goes anyway. I think I would get like maimed. That's probably not worth it. All those memes of like, hey, like, you get 10 carries to get 10 yards for like a million dollars. And I'm like, do you know how hard it would be just to have zero yards with like a hundred carries? Craig, I might not be a millionaire, but at least I have my health, sort of, you know? That's right. Yeah, one thing I want to ask you, before this escapes my mind, you said you had senioritis.

Let's go wakeboarding. Did you go wakeboarding when you were a senior high school? We had senior skip day. We all put on wetsuits and went wakeboarding. It was great. Actually, no, that's not true. We put on suits and went wakeboarding. Like we dressed up in like suits and like business people.

This was like this was jackass era back then, you know. You guys kind of started the Gentle Minions thing. That was really you. I don't know. I don't know what that is earlier. Yeah. The Gentle Minions movement was a bunch of people went to go see the newest Minions movie, but they all wore suits to the theaters and they called it Gentle Minions.

Oh, okay. But you guys did that just in the early, early aughts? When were you in high school? I graduated high school in 2001. Nice. That's honestly really badass. Five, six? I was seven.

Do you guys have... Wild. Photos of you on suits, wakeboarding? In suits, wakeboarding? I don't know. I might. I'll try and find something.

If we found the photo of you randomly being on the Wedding Crashers website from 15 years ago, then we can find this photo of you, wakeboarding. That was weird. But I interrupted you for the tangent, which was worth it.

Yeah, sorry. Jeff Triscoll versus Jake Browning. Again, important that we watch these games. Trevor Simeon versus Bailey Zappy. The Rams. Back from the dead. Carson Wentz. Speaking of comeback players of the year,

Carson Wentz is starting for an NFL team. The Rams, apparently, against Sam Darnold, who I genuinely kind of interested to watch Sam Targ- What is this? 2018? Donald versus Wentz. Yeah.

Can I ask you guys a serious question? Who is going to this game? It's in San Francisco, and neither team is playing the starters. The people that bought tickets at the beginning of the year, not knowing if it was going to have any I don't get people who go to preseason. I have friends who go to preseason.

People go to some weird shit to have entertainment, you know? I guess if starters play for a quarter in preseason, it's worth it. But yeah, I've just never understood it. Don't know who's going to watch Sam Donald and Carson Wentz. It's the spectacle. It's a spectacle of it all. That's my opinion. There's a bunch of things going on with this week.

So we can run through the scenarios. We know what could run through all the scenarios. But the basics, if you don't know, the Ravens won the AFC North. They have the one seat of the AFC. The 49ers won the NFC West. They have the one seat in the NFC. the Chiefs are locked into the, they won the AFC West, they're locked into a three seed,

hence the Blaine Gabbard of it all. I mean, not just Patrick Bump's sitting. I mean, Craig, you mentioned that Travis, the Chiefs are playing the Chargers in L.A., but it's also the day the Golden Globes and Taylor Swift is nominated for Golden Globe. Yes, Taylor Swift is, there's a new category this year called

like cinematic and box office achievement or something. It's basically just a way to shoehorn the most popular movies into the award show. Is that just to get Taylor Swift to come to the ceremony? Correct. Anyway, she's nominated. She's attending.

But yeah, look, it all feels like this worked out so well. Chiefs are playing in L.A. in a meaningless game where Travis Kelsey's not going to play. The game is on CBS. The Golden Globes is on CBS this year. It's literally the next thing after the game ends is the Golden Globes. It has been announced that Kelsey will not be attending the game, the award show, and he's going to fly back to Casey after.

This is a missed opportunity. Yeah. We needed him on the sideline in a tux, helicoptering from Sofi or wakeboarding. He could have wakeboarded in the touch. Wakeboarding up the Pacific

with, imagine that. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey fresh off a Chiefs win. He's in a talks, maybe a helmet's on. If the Chiefs had the one seed, I think he would have done it. The vibes are nowhere near good enough

for this to have it. The vibes are awful though. And I love the memes that are like the, you know, old people calling into the radio being like Taylor Swift, ruined the Chiefs. And then the Swifties are like, my God,

why did they think that Sky Moore and Cadarious Tony would be reliable for full season? But the, so the Chiefs, they're locked in the sea, the Lions, they're probably, you know, the Rams are locked,

not nobody's seed, but they're not going to get a buy. They won the division. The Rams are locked into the seed, but they just have a wild card. So there's a bunch of teams that, between the quarterback injuries and the team's resting starters, it's all kind of weird,

but we should start here, or at least of the important games, Bill's Dolphins is the marquee event here. The winner gets the AFCA East title of Bill's Dolphins. Dolphins are the playoffs no matter what. And the bills, if they lose, depending what happens with the Steelers in another game. The bills might be win and in and lose and you're out of the playoffs or when they win their which is just incredible to think about. Wait, might be?

Yeah. So if the bills lose, they're out or are there other contingencies going on? No, the Steelers have to win. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So producer Carlos is a very sad Dolphins fan. And I think it's to be so morose about.

Should he be sad? They're the three seed right now or the two seed. We'll get to the bills in a second, but I want to start with the dolphins because I don't know. I feel like the dolphins to begin the year were electric and possibly the story of the season. And now, yeah, morose, pretty sad. And honestly, kind of tough that they've Rahim Moster banged up. Tyree kills in a walking boot. Never mind the stuff that happened.

at this house this week, which is horrific. But it just seems like the dolphins needed to buy, honestly, as much as anyone. And now it's like, they're kind of like in a wild card. I don't know. How are you feeling, Carlos? Look, I've been saying for weeks, you can ask anyone around the ringer that I've been

saying for weeks that they were going to play the bills in a meaningful game in the end of the season and probably lose. Carlos, do you think they should just sit, everybody, take the L, and rest your whole team? No, because there's a scenario in which they play the bills again the following week. So what are we doing? Yeah, I don't know. This is just brutal. Like this was worst case scenario. It was always worst case scenario. I'm sure we're

going to talk about it, but Josh Allen literally owns the dolphins. Like it's not, it is not even like, I'm not ashamed to say it. It just is what it is. Like his stats against the dolphins are absurd. We are like a couple of great games away from. remember when Aaron Rogers had that famous moment on the bear sideline where he said, I own you. We're not that far off from Josh Allen being able to say that in Miami. It might happen in this game, to be honest. It's been kind of a wild year for the Dolphins.

You know what this reminds me of the Dolphins' offense? I don't even know if this was debunked or what, but there was reports back of the day that the U.S. military had spent, they'd spent like $11 billion on the F-35 fighters. Like the next generation is supposed to be stealth and all this crazy. crazy shit. But then the only problem was it couldn't fly in the rain. Like, like, this is kind of, obviously there's, I mean, the Dolphins offense is still good.

But like, we were talking about this Dolphins offense in the beginning of the season as like, truly one of the greatest offenses of all time. And if you look at some of the stats, I put together the stats first half versus second half of the season. And the first half, obviously, so they were number one in points per game, almost 34 points per game, which is five points more than the second place dolphins. Sorry, Cowboys. The first in touchdowns, obviously, first in points per drive, first in yards per play,

which is over a yard better than the second place 49ers per play. The red zone percentage, in other words, the number of touchdowns they scored, the rate of touchdowns per red zone trip was 74%. So they're getting into the end zone at a ludicrous amount, at a ludicrous rate. But the last eight games, like they've been like an okay offense. They've been like top 10.

And that's about it. Like, obviously, that's still very good. But the expectations that we had coming into the second half of the season, this is one of the greatest offenses ever. We were comparing them to the Patriots, like 2007 offense, like some of the greatest offenses of all time. But the problem is they just can't fly in the rain. You know, so kind of specific.

They went from like the greatest show on turf to now they're kind of like, they're like the box offense now. It's like, that hurts the points. God. That hurts. that cuts deep. Are we overreacting, though, because they're still number one

in the NFL in scoring. Well, we had to take the Broncos game out at some point. At some point, we got to like, that was three months ago and it was hot in the broad. Like,

by the way, the game after the 70 point output, 48 to 20 loss to the bills. So, first of all, the fast people are nicked up. Like, honestly, it's simple.

It's like, Devon A. Chan has a toe injury, which I'm like, all right, whatever. But when you're the fastest person on earth,

it's tough. Tyre kills in a walking boot, Rahim Mostert. You know what I mean? Like all the fast guys. And then Jalen Waddle. Waddle might not play. I lost track of the amount of, yeah, he's probably not playing.

He's not played. He's already ruled out, basically, I think. But the, I mean, the amount, he, what, an eye injury, an ankle? I can't even keep track with him anymore. But to Carlos's point, though, the bills really do. I didn't realize this honestly until Carlos pointed out. But do you guys know that Josh Allen is nine and two in these games? Carlos, you pointed out to me before the show that those two wins are won last year,

the heat stroke game when all the players are collapsing on the field. Oh, my gosh. That's one of the Dolphins. wins and forget the other ones. But Josh Allen, they can play when it's sunny and hot. But not ready. But the other, Josh Allen's stats are like

a season. It's 11 games against the dolphins, including when he was bad. Carlos, 31 touchdown passes to five picks. Josh Allen has versus the dolphins in 11 games. 11 games. So I.

Carlos, you have a good team. Carlos, I'll just say this. You lose this week. You have a wild card and you maybe get a win, whatever, a sad season. Do you want Tua back? That's my one

question for you. To a back at the highest paid at quarterback in NFL history. Like he has to get a quarter billion dollars in the $50 million a year. The thing to remember is that they are already in the playoffs. So obviously, like if they lose this game, then yeah, they're still going to the playoffs

and they'll play the Chiefs if they lose because they'll be the six seat if they lose. So like it depends what happens in that game. Like, I mean if he stinks it up two games in a row, one of them being a playoff game, the other one, essentially being a playoff game because it's for the division, then maybe,

you know, I don't know what we do from that position because I, McDaniel seems to love him. So it's just like, I don't know what the answer is. Are you going to like mortgage everything to, you're already kind of in a position where you have so much invested in right now. So I don't know.

It's just. Do it. So complicated. Don't you think though, Carlos, like that if you went to yourself three and a half months ago and said, And week 18, the dolphins are going to be the two-seed playing against the bills for the AFC East title. You'd take that, right?

You'd be like, great. Yes, but that's ignoring the context of they blew the Titans game, which they would have, they would have the division locked up if they won the Titans game. That game was bizarre. They had a three-game lead in the division, and now it's down to the last week of the season. I'm trying to be glass-half full. I can't. It's not working. Glass-half-thirty.

How did we get in this position? Oh, my God. I'm sorry, Carlos, but oh, my goodness. All right. So, we'll see. This is a huge game. Shout out. And again, Carlos, you did call like three months ago.

After the Dolphins Pills game, after the 70 point that this was going to come down to this. There's no more accurate fan than the cynical, like, Homer fan of their team. You know what I mean? Those people are the most accurate fans, I feel like. Just super cynical. Expecting the worst. How many teams? Hyvitz had 20 teams are in.

contention still right now. How many teams heading into the NFL playoffs actually have good vibes right now? It is quite literally probably only Baltimore in San Francisco. You can make the case that every other team in the league has bad vibes. Oh, yeah. This is great. Wait, let's go through this. Okay.

Bill's fit. No, tough thoughts. We're all depressed because we're all online. The bills are horrific. Bill's tough vibes. The dolphins are bad. They almost just lost the pats. Patriots and Jets are literally all-time low. Cowboys after the Lions game is bad. Giants is bad. Eagles is horrific for a team coming out of Super.

Washington, need this to say, is bad. Rams? Rams? Rams are solid. Even though they barely beat the Giants and they got really lucky to do so, I think the Rams vibes are pretty good. Raiders fans are still high off the McDaniels thing ending,

but that's kind of just like it was so bad that now it's just fine. It's a good point, Craig. Honestly, the Bucks. Packers vibes are good. It's about it. Bucks vibes are fine, I guess. Seattle's vibes not good.

New Orleans vibes not good. Falcons vibes not good. Nobody's happy. Packers. Did we mention the Packers? I think the Packers. Jags vibes, not good. Kansas City, obviously, terrible vibes.

I guess Cleveland has good vibes somehow right now. Joe Flacco. The Flacco effect. Dude, it's so funny because I feel like five years ago, I remember like making fun of Flacco every week. I called him Joe Jumper Cable's Flacco because he was just the most boring, like morose, drag the team down.

Like, he's just like a goth, like a really depressed goth kid or something like at quarterback. You know what happened is he's moved into Milf territory. He was like, when he was a young guy, it was like, he doesn't do anything for me. But now Joe Flacco, Milf territory, it's like, oh, wait, there's something, there's something about him now. He's got a little, you know, he's got a little tread on the tires, a couple extra wrinkles. I'm kind of into that now. It's like, it's truly like a life cycle. He's past his midlife crisis and he's accepted that he's old.

He's accepted his role on the team. He's accepted that whatever, he's not going to be a big-time superstar starter or whatever. And now he can just play free and clear of any, like, expectations. It's like he has a whole new personality. So it's Milf. Man, I love Flacco. Oh, my God. But truly, like, I feel like I've never seen Flacco so happy.

He's just having the best time. Wait, speaking of Miltz. Man, I like Flacco. Man, I like Flacco. I love Flack. Speaking of Milf, don't pretend you didn't see the Jeremy Allen White, the actor from the bear, the photo shoot he did for GQ with the Calvin Klein underwear. He's just like extremely ripped in an underwear.

Yeah, I did see that. And the guy from the bear, the chef, the guy from Shibb, the kid from Shannon White. He got super ripped for the movie Iron Coff. He did a GQ photo shoot to which I have been texting with friends of mine and who are thirsting after him. And I have a single friend who lives in Brooklyn who walks by him sometimes. Shout out Kathy. And she was talking about scheming to try to introduce yourself to him. Anyway.

Right. Sure. Anyway, I didn't realize that he's dad. How tall is Kathy? Five, five. Okay. Is he short or something? Is he short?

He's real short. Really? Because I didn't realize he's a dad. Because he's a DILF. That's kind of why I'm what. He's a DILF. But I didn't realize that. But are you, just because you have a kid doesn't make, like if you're 25

years old and you have a kid, I feel like you're not a DILF. DILF is a vibe. Interesting. It's like the Flacco. You need to be older. Yeah, like I don't even know a Flacko has kids. He's still a Dill. Like Kevin's the fancied

You're not pretending to be young anymore You're not pretending to be You know what I mean Like you've accepted that you are who you are now This is the stage of the life here A 25 year old who's good looking with a kid Is not a DILF They're still just like a good looking young man

I feel like you need to You need to reach a certain age Before you reach gilf status DK DLF Thank you Greg All right That's what we were alluding to

This whole time Yeah All right Flip side of this game The Bills it would be such a no again Carlos I'm sorry but it would be such a travesty if the

bills missed the playoffs like let's be real here I mean we've been on record saying we're like the we're the bills lovers on this like the podcast world it's like we have eyeballs it's like who do we want the playoffs you want fun teams even Craig Craig Craig

do you want the Steelers in the playoffs over the Buffalo Bills God no God no the last thing I want is to watch Mason Rudolph or Kenny Pickett or the two of them try to fight through a game in the playoffs

whatever Mason Rudolph is fucking balling right now. Don't you remember the Steelers Browns game, the playoff wildcard game where they were down like 30 to zero in 12 minutes? That's what's going to happen to the Steelers if they make the playoffs.

No, the bills are one of the four best teams in the league. They 100% need to be in the playoffs. I'm going to be devastated if they're not. Josh Allen deserves to be in the playoffs. This is ridiculous. Just the shit is head. Literally cry about it. Cry about it.

Look, if Buffalo wins, Miami still makes it. That's best case scenario. Well, they should have lost the Jets and the Patriots early in the season. I don't know, cry about it. Sorry, Josh Allen. Screw you. You know, it's funny, though, D.K., you comparing the Dolvins,

like an F-35 that can't fly in the rain? It's supposed to rain in Miami on Sunday. All right, prove me wrong, dolphins. Prove me wrong. Fly. I don't even actually, I don't remember if, like, the games that they've struggled in have been weather-related at all.

I just feel like they're a little bit of a finicky. No, I know what you mean, though. We all know what you mean. It's like a house of cards. It's like if one thing falls. It's like if one screw is loose, the whole thing collapsed. But Craig, you mentioned glass half full. I feel like the bill's missing is like the glass half empty playoff field.

Yeah. It's pretty dark. I tried to put together what the worst possible playoff scenario is in both conferences. This picture in the dock that we have here, it's what I don't even remember what this movie is. I don't know. It's like the guy holding open the lady's eyes and like making her look. It looks like Rick and Morty. It's like the Rick just holding Morty's eyes open.

It's like, look at it. That's what the NFL is doing to us. The NFC, somehow it's possible that two NFC South teams make the playoffs. Easily the worst division in football. Every team is unfun to watch except I guess the box. This is a possible scenario. 49ers 1 seed. Eagles 2 seed.

Lyons 3 seed. Arthur Smith and the Falcons says the South Divor Division winners at the four seed. We have the Cowboys at five, Rams at six, and the Bucks at seven. That's a realistic scenario is Eagles, two-seed, Falcons, four-seat, bucks, seven-seat. Rams' Lions, if that's a matchup we want for sure, because that would be like Stafford versus the Lions and golf versus the Rams. Incredible matchup.

Having said that, Eagles, Bucks would be just awful. I mean, the Bucks are actually kind of fun, but the Bucks being more fun than the Eagles is insane. And then, like, Falcons Cowboys, like, that, oh my God, like, if there were a regular season, I wouldn't even want to, Falcons Cowboys is gross. And then the AFC, AFC is like there are more fun teams, but they're also worst teams.

Yeah, I mean, still, it's like worst case scenario, a FC, you have Ravens at one, you have the Dolphins 2, Chiefs, Ugly Vibes 3, you have the Jags at 4, Flack 05, Gardner Minchu at 6, and the Steelers at 7. So again,

you could have a weird-ass dolphin Steelers game in Miami, you'd have a Chiefs Colts game that nobody would want to watch, and then you'd have Jags, Browns? None of those games are good. We really are on the... Everyone's like, oh, here are the cool matchups. We are on the precipice of the worst possible playoff.

We might have Mason, Rudolph, Gardner, Minchew, Joe Flacco, and no Josh Allen. Why does everyone's vibe so bad right now? That's so true. It's kind of funny. I didn't really realize that. It's too long. I genuinely think the season should be 12 weeks long, and then the right team would win way more often.

So damn morose. All right. What kind of sport is it where basically like the team that doesn't get hurt the most just wins. Like that's not a good sport. Isn't that every sport? Not really. That's not a good sport. It's like most NBA teams are relatively healthy.

It's like unless one guy like Taurus ACL, which doesn't happen that much, like usually most teams are healthy. The NFL, it's like, well, the only reason why the Eagles went as good as they did is because they were the only healthy team. Oh, the Bengals year before. They were the only healthy team. Yeah, it's literally every season. Yeah, I'd love a sport where it's like the players who play the game are not injured 24. You know what, Craig, I agree. Let's make the season 12 games.

Dolphins win the division. There is. Let's go. I mean, look, don't you want the first half of the season dolphins in the playoffs? Yes, you don't want the second half. Well, you know what? You know the George Carlin joke that life's backwards? Like, you should start in retirement home and then like you first day at work, you get a gold watch. You work for 30 years.

And then you go to college and party. And then like, and then you just have someone taking care of you your whole life. and then you end and you're like an orgasm. And like, that's how life should be. Like the season, if you think about it, should start with like these two good teams play and then we add teams every week. And then the Super Bowl's like week one,

whatever it's helped. Like that would be maybe better. Well, Craig's idea that like, wasn't it like you eliminate bad teams as you go on? It's like sort of a guillotine. Guillotine league. It was like we should quarantine the Giants of Jets and they should play every week.

The other one, and that in tandem with releasing the schedule every week without telling anyone. That I love. You basically, it's like a mini-stop. selection show every single, every Sunday night, it's like, who is my team playing next week? You can flex every single game.

You always put the best games on prime time. I think it's an incredible idea. You're right that we miss the boat with this because you can't do it with tickets or selling tickets, but the COVID season, it would have been unreal if every Sunday was a selection show after Sunday football, they're like, here's who's playing next week. Or the pregame for Sunday football is like, here's who's playing next week. That would have been actually like incredible. And then every week, the Jones and Jeff.

Imagine half time of Sunday night football every week. You find out next week. schedule. I like how every, I like how every show we're trying to fix football. Like, it's not the most fucking popular sport in the country by like tenfold. It's like every week it breaks records of viewers. It's like the most watch shows on television every year. Like one through 20 is NFL games. Like some some Jags Browns bullshit on Thursday night football like beats anything else. They released that list of the top 100 shows of the year. And it's like the Olympics, which costs. 93 or football?

A billion dollars that bankrupts a prominent global city. But you know what? We should completely fucking change it. We should like fix it. You know? Well, it's stupid. It's stupid. Yeah? The Ted Lassow quote, dude, there's like 30, you know, half the games this week

have zero purpose. Like the Rams and the Niners game just doesn't matter. You know what I mean? Like who the, it's awful. The Ted Lassel quote, it's like the one where he's like coach late. He's like, doesn't get relegation? So they're not of relegation in America?

He's like, oh, no, no, no, no. Like, so what happens to all the shitty teams? Like, I don't know, they play out the rest of the schedule, go through the motions in meaningless games, contested and lifeless, half-empty stadiums. And everyone's pretty much okay with it. Lifeless. Wait, do we have that, Carlos? Half-empty stadiums.

Do we have that, Carlos? Coach, do they not to have relegation in America? No, no, no, no, no. So what happens to all the shit teams at end of the season? You know, they play out the rest of the schedule, going through the motions and meaningless games contested and lifeless, half-empty stadiums, and then everyone's pretty much fine with that. Well, here's what we should do.

Tell them what we're going to do this. It's fine with it. Not fine with it. Those are like the most watched shows on television that week. They like love it. The NFL draft beat the World Series. The NFL draft could be an email. Seriously.

After week 13 or week 14, why don't they just get like the eight teams that can't make the playoffs that mathematically are eliminated from the playoffs, put them in a new loser's bracket, and then they compete every week for draft seeding. They compete for the number one picking a draft. The winning team gets the number one pick in a draft. This is a real take. If the NBA has actually adopted an in-season tournament, like we kind of haven't talked about this a lot, but the NBA added an in-season tournament that not going to lie, I kind of made fun of and thought was silly, and the players immediately cared about it. And they actually did make early season basketball better. And the

same year, Major League Baseball liposuctioned 30 minutes out of every game. And then everyone from casuals, they did. The casual fans to like baseball diehards were like, yep, this is great. Like the two of the four leagues made huge changes this year. And everyone was like, yeah, nice job. So the NFL, the competing, like, I don't know if the NFL would want a huge, huge change, but putting more stakes on these things. One, like, I don't think that's out of the question.

Dude, imagine. You grab the bottom four teams in each conference, and then you put them in a loser's bracket for the final four weeks of the season. Yes, and every week it's like, oh, shit, Washington's playing Arizona. The winner goes on to the semifinals and can now compete for a top four pick. And then it's like the finals is like Carolina playing the Giants for the first pick in the draft. Everybody would watch that game. This is how we do with my, I have a dynasty league that does this, Craig.

basically the two worst teams play each other over a couple weeks, and the winner gets the first pick. Not the worst team. You got to compete. There's no free lunch here, guys. And then the next four teams compete for a comp pick, essentially, like in the rookie draft. Yeah, everyone's always competing for picks. I think that the other thing about this is that the natural thing will be like, well, you know,

what about bad teams? Like, they should get the first picks because the bad team should get. Yeah, but like, one. whatever. But these are still the worst eight teams. So it's like you're not really

giving a great team the first. You're going to give like at worst you're going to give like I don't know the saints or something like that. The NBA does a lottery. It's a lottery.

That's the, and yeah, and one player honestly matters more in the NBA, even with quarterbacks. Like getting one star usually has a bigger effect. Would anybody really care

if the Titans got the first pick in the draft instead of the Panthers if they won this stupid tournament? That'd be great. It should reward teams for playing well. Like when the Texans last year won that game. And it was like, oh, no, they got the second pick.

It's like, that shouldn't be the head coach being F you to ownership, which is what it was because, like, they wanted to screw. It was like, the Jets should be rewarded when they beat the Rams of 17 point underdogs in like week 16 and lose, like, the Jets should get Trevor Lawrence because they beat the Rams of 17. under X two years ago, not lose Trevor Lawrence. It is such an inherent flaw in the sport that at the end of the season, fans are debating whether or not they want their teams to lose or not.

Like, it's just wrong. To be like, oh, the job. Giants won, I'm upset. It's like, what? That's not be how sports work. Imagine if Tommy DeVito was leading the Giants to wins and a higher pick and I was thrilled about it. Like, that would be so much.

You're right. Wow, Craig, this is a good call. We got to figure of the deets, but what do we do about fantasy, though? Like, yeah, we just fixed the NFL. Now what? How about fantasy? I don't know. It does feel like we were recording a rewatchable's the other day.

And Bill and I were chatting about how the end of the regular season doesn't feel like it should be the end of the fantasy season. Because injuries have screwed up so many people's teams. It's like, you had Nick Chubb, you had Joe Burrow, you had Kirk Cousins, like, whatever it is. Or Chris McCaffrey gets hurt in week 17

and sucks for everybody who made the championship with him. And it just doesn't feel right. It almost feels like, just like we were joking that the dolphin season should end at week 12. It feels like fantasy should end

at week 12, but then that doesn't make sense. And so I was wondering, Bill is in a league that goes through the real NFL playoffs. So it's like, in August, when you draft your fantasy team, if you draft Tyree Kill, like you will have

him all the way up until the Super Bowl if he makes it. And that is the whole point is like, you better draft guys on good teams because when you enter the playoffs, you will have those players on your team. And do you think that is the actual best way to play fantasy football is to continue it into the playoffs? I am fascinated by, I will say, Bill's leagues, I'm really not just saying, I mean, we work for Bill. I'm not saying this because of that.

The Bill has leagues has two of the best rules they've ever heard. The incredible. The 13 people in a 12-person league and the winner gets to kick someone out for you. Incredible. Who thought that? Also, we don't talk enough about how. just like fucking Don Draper's just in that loop. They're kicking the Hamaconda out.

It's booting John Ham for the league. John Ham just like shows up with like a Bud Light and they're like, hey John, we kicked you out this year. He like killed the Bud Light. It was like, all right, catch you next year. I'm like, what the fuck? So amazing. But I think the way they do it is that I forget 12, I forget which one, but the 12th team

league. My favorite is a 12th team league where 16s make the playoffs. And I think it's the you keep your players. And then the six teams. that didn't make it, all their players are like released, basically. And they do another draft of all the playoff eligible teams. So the team's in wildcard round. And then I think the first seed either get the team with the best record in fantasy

either gets to pick the draft slatter picks first or whatever. And they have a snake draft of the players left from the dead teams that didn't make the playoffs. Sorry, I'm getting confusing. The fantasy teams that didn't make the fantasy playoffs lose their players. And then there's another draft. and you draft the players in the real life that are going to be in the real life NFL playoffs

and you want to pick a mix of who's good versus who's going to be on a team that wins. Still there in a couple weeks. Yeah. So like for example, like this year, if the, you know, George Pickens has been playing well, but are the still going to win a game? So it's like you wouldn't want to take George Pickens first because even if he was great,

probably going to get one a game out of it. You mean like Mike Evans. Mike Evans has been awesome, but like you really want Mike Evans. But then it's like, Debo Samuel or McAfree, you're like, oh my God, well, that person probably made the playoffs. but like Debo Stamer, like, oh my God, the miners might win the Super Bowl. Like Lomaris is the most valuable player.

Isaiah Likley. Isaiah likely. Exactly. So like that would be pretty incredible if we did fantasy that way where it's like, oh, it's 17 weeks and that's also more regular season. And then the playoffs to decide it that that would be pretty awesome. It's kind of weird though because it's like a not your team. It's not your real team.

It's just, I think that's a little bit weird. Well, and if, let's say you are the one seed in fantasy. Let's say you're the best team that year. But your, but your players were not good playoff teams. Or like, but like if you won your fantasy league, but the players in real life were not on good teams, it'd be weird to be like the one seed. And yet you didn't have any of your players anymore. And you'd have to draft the new team as as the best team in the league. You know what I mean?

Yes, but also one, didn't we just make a whole memento tattoo of draft players at good teams? And then two. No, I know. Whatever. If you had, if your team was like Garrett Wilson and James Connor and what happened, you know, Keenan Allen, it would be weird that you were the one seed. And yet you lost all your players and had to draft a brand new team. Yeah, that's true. I guess I just like that.

I like rewarding. Obviously, you'd have to do a whole system with everyone knowing this, but I like the idea of rewarding players that are on good teams. Like, I just like that. You know, one of my hottest takes about fantasy

is I've always wished that, like, I always think about post-game press conferences and they're like, like, no matter how good a player did in a game, if they lost, like, yeah, it doesn't matter. We lost the game. I'm like, yeah, you know what? They're right.

Like, you should get a zero if you didn't win the game. Like, I've always wanted a fantasy league where if your team lost, you get a zero. Make one high fits. That's like, I think halfway there is the points per first down, which I actually agree with you. Like if the team loses you get zero, I think is one step too crazy for me. Baby steps is like points per first down. I do kind of find that to be interesting.

But the playoff thing is so real. You know what else is great about that, what Bills League does? It's like you get two drafts every season. Drafting is like the funest part of fantasy football and you get a second one at the end of the year. Yeah, I agree. All right. We fix fantasy football. All right, there we go.

Great. And fix the NFL. I'm not going to lie. that's, that's, we'll do it toward it. We'll figure it. Losers bracket, like, let's get Raj on the phone. Just call it the toilet bowl.

Like everyone does in fantasy. Speaking of, speaking of teams, though, like, wanted to lose toward the end, Mike Vrabel, the Titans coach, was asked, basically like, why do you want to win?

And Mike Frable's response, it was out of control. He was like, because it sucks to lose. And it was like, it wasn't like a brand, but it's just like, it fucking sucks.

Losing. Off. wait, Carl's, we have to play this one. He's like, losing. Awful. Because it sucks to lose, gentry. Trey, every need to show you anything? Did you have another thought or, no, I'm just curious.

Well, it, yeah. It fucking sucks. Losing. Awful. That's why I want to win. He was so mad. The sad truth about competition is that is that the emotions you feel when you lose are so much stronger than when

you win. And it's you actually most, most of the time, I feel like you play a sport not to lose it more than you do to win it. The feeling of winning is great, but the feeling of losing in a big moment is so much fucking worse. I think the most relatable thing Kirk cousin said in the quarterback Netflix stock was when he was like, when I win, I mostly just feel relief, like, because losing's the worst feeling in the world. And when I win, I just am so relieved, I don't have the feeling of losing. I was like, yeah, that totally tracks. Because it's the same thing with, we talked about this with fantasy, with everything in life where it's like, They've done these psychological studies where, like, the feeling of, what is it, risk, basically.

The feeling of losing something is like four times stronger than the feeling of getting a dollar. Like, losing is four times more painful than gaining a dollar. And winning and losing is just downstream of that. Yeah, so I get it that Vrabel's like I essentially just want to win so that I don't have to feel what it's like to lose. The Titans are playing the Jags this week and they're just kind of like the Joker team. It's like, remember last year, Lions and the last week of the season, they kept the Packers out of the playoffs. and they beat him for no reason. And the Titans can basically do that to the Jaguars.

The Jags win, they win the division, but if the Jags lose, they might not even make the playoffs altogether. So I kind of love the Titans just being out there like, yeah. I'm kind of in on meathead coaches. Mike Vrable, Dan Campbell, they hate math, but they go front and forth down anyway

because they're like, because we're bigger than you. I think they're just like big players. And I just, I don't know. I'm kind of in. Yeah, it's like the coaches that don't let their team quit. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Like there's something there. It definitely instills a culture. Right. Yeah. I even think, dude, Jonathan Gannon, Jonathan Gannon is not a meathead physically, but he kind of mentally is a meathead. He thinks with his meat. Yeah.

Mentally. He's like a Chihuahua that thinks it's as big as like a pit bull, you know? There's like a motivational, probably poster about that, Craig. Somehow. Should I get that? Looking in the mirror. It's like a little cat sees a lion. I'm just, I'm trying to think.

I can't picture it exactly, but you know what I'm talking about. I think you're actually right, the cat lion when you said that. It's jogging my memory. When you guys think of Jonathan Gannon, do you think, I can't believe you guys think of anything other than the video from Rondell Moore being like, 100% do. I think of that immediately. The most shocking thing in the world is that he can relate to his players and get them

to play hard. But he has. They've got great vibes. They have like probably the third best vibes in the NFL right now. Playing the Seahawks this week, Dick. Do you even want the Seahawks to win and make the playoffs? You want them to win? Seahawks have terrible vibes right now.

Do I want them to win? Yes. Because, okay, look, there's varying philosophies about this, in my opinion. Some people think it's Super Bowl or bust. You know what I mean? There's a lot of fans out there that, like, if you don't win the Super Bowl, that's a failure of a season. How do you guys feel about that?

Like, to me, getting to the playoffs, just a chance to, like, get hot at the right time, that's a success. But then some people will be like, oh, that's a loser's mentality. fucking losers mentality, you know? But I don't know. Did it one person say this to you on Twitter? Oh, no, I've seen this like over the years. I've seen this a lot.

Like this is like my dad doesn't say this, but like this is like something that a dad say. My dad doesn't say that. But like that's a dad. It's Ricky Bobby. Yeah. This is the Ricky Bobby thing. First or last.

No, I think it's ridiculous. Don't you guys remember the Yonis quote when Yonis lost? I think it, I don't know if it was last year two years ago. And somebody was like, you know, do you see this year as a failure that you, because you didn't win the championship. And he was like, are you fucking kidding me?

He's like, Michael Jordan won six rings. Like, would you consider every other year of his career a failure? And he was like, no. Like, you win sometimes, you lose sometimes. Like, no, these are not failures. So I tend to agree. Look, if the Cardinals next year go 12 and 5 and losing the conference championships, it's not a fucking failure of a season.

Get the fuck out of here. That's what I said to all the players in my locker room when they asked me if it was a failure that my fantasy football team lost to all my friends who thought they were living. That's a failure. Michael Jordan won six rings. Like was every season, you know?

Fantasy is the only sport that is truly, if you're not first or last. Well, it depends if you have second place pot. Even then. Yeah. I will, here's how I'll frame it for you. I'm a fan of the Seahawks and I'm a fan of the Mariners. Yes, I want the Seahawks to go to the playoffs.

Because going to the playoffs is an accomplishment. And it's fun. And you're one of the teams that's still alive, all the teams are out. The Mariners went like 20-something years without a playoff appearance. 20-something years. It was rude to be to laugh.

Can you imagine that? Like Craig can't because his team is good every year. But like, to me, it's like getting into the The Oakland A's. It's reality minus expectations. Like that's happiness. It's reality minus expectations. Or expectations minus reality.

Sorry, I got it backwards. But like the Giants last year, no one thought they'd be good, made the playoffs. That was incredible. Guess what? the Niners lose. Like, if you're the one seed,

the Niners and Ravens lose, guess what? Like, everyone's going to be pissed. Like, it's just how good you think you're going to be, how good you end up being. And that's kind of it. Like, if the Bills fans are not going to be happy

if they do squeeze in the playoffs to get rocked. But the Giants got rocked by the Eagles. I didn't care. They won a playoff game. That was insane. I don't care what the score of the Eagles game was. They did not deserve to be there. So Craig,

Craig just texted a picture of the kit and looking into a mirror. And it's a, it's just a ferocious lion. It's just a heavy. That's heavy stuff. I'm very motivated now. Just a little baby.

Yeah, that's really powerful stuff. Hang that on my wall. You want to do some emails? I might get that as a big tattoo. Do it. Dude, Aaron Rogers last year got that tattoo of the lion. And he was like, this is very deep and meaningful. And I will explain it at a later time.

Weird how no one's asked. Weird how no one's followed up on that. Well, I feel like he said some other things that kind of outranked the tattoo. He's going to add to his topics. He's going to add to his text. tattoo after this week. Have you guys, I think we've talked about this on the show. Have you seen Dan Lanning's tattoos, the head coach of Oregon? I've heard. I've heard about it. What are his tattoos? Just Google Dan Lanning tattoos. I feel like I'm having deja vu. Do we talk about this before?

I think we might have done. Oh, yeah. This is the guy he got his wife tattooed on with the cleavage. We for sure have talked about this. Oh my God. Fucking insane tattoo. Like nuts. I want my wife. But I guess, no, more booing. That's how you know. That's how you know he's a good coach. You have to get shit like this to be a college football coach. You just need to be an absolute psycho. That's really funny.

I was just thinking like if anybody would get like the cat lion thing, like on his back, it would be Dan Lannning. This is insane. That's so wild. That's just insane. Also speaking of emails, a good email. Oh no, I apologize. I lost your name.

No, it's from Matt. Matt. Matt emailed in. We talked about the Sports Center commercials. Oh, wait, no. Sorry. Wait, I'm going to do that in a second. We get an email about tattoos too.

Sorry, Daniel emailed in. Daniel. Daniel. We asked about emails at ringer fantasy football at Gmail.com, other crazy tattoo stories. Daniel emailed in that there's a guy who got a tattoo, a Browns fan, got a tattoo of Miles Garrett hitting Mason Rudolph on the head with the helmet. And it's like very like a photo realistic tattoo.

I can't, it's huge. It's like the guy's whole like upper leg. Look at his face. It's like the biggest tattoo you can have that isn't on your back or chest face. His whole leg, basically, it's just Garrett. And it's, his face is getting squished. His face is like, yeah, it's like the slowmo of his face, the reverberation through his face is what they chose.

It's like melting. Wow, this is really nicely done. We should find tattoo artist's Instagram and share it. Yeah, shouts out this artist. This is really, really well done. Probably not an artist in Pittsburgh that made this. If you went to Pittsburgh and said, I'd like this, would they do it, you think?

Feel like I like this image tattooed on my leg. No, I bet they would not. That one's incredible. Sorry, returning to Matt with the Sports Center commercials. We were talking about how they're just incredible. And he wrote that they're by the really famous ad firm. I'm sorry, I forget the name. Wyden and Kennedy.

Weiden and Kennedy. I don't know. Wyden and Kennedy made them. And apparently it was like a very, he used to work there forever ago. And he said that it was like a very competitive. It was open to every creative at the company was allowed to pitch them. And I think that's,

why they're so incredible. They're all so short. They're all 15, 30 seconds. They're all so short, and they're all so funny. But apparently it was like, not quite, but almost like March Madness-esque brackets to get them. Oh, wow. That's so cool. I don't know if that was literal or not, but I'm choosing to believe it was like literally like a bracket. I also love that they're just like truly filming in like an office. I just think it's awesome. Yeah. And yeah, there's so many, the man, the Peyton and Eli won kicking each other on the tour. The David Ortiz putting the hat on Jorge Posada and just they're incredible

and the... Did you guys ever work in an office like that like in an office setting? No. And the ringer does not count. No, the ringer does not count. Two.

But I worked for that. I mean, back in the day, the old Washington commanders headquarters. Oh, that's actually... Which... If these walls could talk, High Fitz. Tell us some stories.

If they could talk, the walls would be deposed. Right. Yeah. Very quickly. All I'll say is the one time that I think the, I had, I was like 20 and I, or 21. And the CFO of Washington at the time had to teach me to make a pot of coffee because I

didn't know. And I was like, he walked in on me holding the cup, the pot, realizing it was empty. And I was like, I know that I'm supposed to refill this, but it was like a large, like, not industrial, but a large, like, a large, like, really large machine. And I'm holding it. I'm like, oh, shit, should I put this in empty and run? And he walked in on me, like, stare. And he was like, all right, come here.

And like, showed me on. to make up. This is the most hyphence thing ever. I would listen to a podcast, like a monologue podcast of you just describing interactions with other people throughout your life. Like, dude, this is a weird one story. I don't know why it just tickled me because you just have like the most random like experiences in life. You've ran into so many famous people. You've interacted with so many random people. Sean McVeigh was the coordinator at the time. And I remember thinking the two people who like had these stunning blue eyes. Colt McCoy. Unbelievable. And then Sean McVeigh, honestly, it's like very bright blue eyes. just got lost in his eyes.

Yeah, I did, honestly. Like, I thought that's all I ever think about. Craig, did you have that experience when you were producing his podcast? Maybe it's because he doesn't blink. Yeah, maybe that's it. I don't know if, I don't know if I remember his eyes. You know who else has crazy blue eyes? Our boss, Wilson.

Yes, he does. The bluest eyes you've ever seen in your life. That's true. Dude, the first time I met Bill in person, I remember thinking, he's like, Colt McCoy. That was my honest. I was like, eyes. Oh, my God. classic.

I also thought Scott McLuhan offered me Cheetos. He was the GM at the time and he was just like dressed like he's like, hey kid. Want some Cheetos? Yeah. Yeah. High Fitz's stories are always like, oh yeah, I was in Florida for a wedding and I went to a dive bar and Chris Collinsworth was there. We ended up getting drunk until four in the morning and he told me about his life.

A hundred percent. He's a magnet for random famous people interactions. I don't know. I played Django with Chris Collinsworth until four in the morning at a bar one. You know the big janga, where it like piles up like six feet high? That's what we were doing. I got to do two truths that a lie one time with that. Yeah.

Yeah. High fits you, I feel like you're holding out on us. We got to get to the bottom. Get some more stories out of you. Maybe I'll make them. The other one we got to get to here. This one's from Chet. It's an incredible one.

Shet. Chet. It's about Misty Mountains. And again, once again, the monthly PSA, if you have a newborn child, and you have, our hit rate is, two out of three is D.K. has discovered the secret to the universe. It's three quarters. It's like 90%. If you have a child that cannot go to sleep, Misty Mountains from the Hobbit soundtrack.

Sorry to interrupt you, Hyvitz. It's not go to sleep. It's soothing a crying baby. If your baby is freaking out, crying and screaming, put on Misty Mountains by, I think it's like Richard Armitage or something. It's from the Hobbit soundtrack. It's the one with a billion streams from the Hobbit soundtrack. Looked at the Hobbit soundtrack. And like all the other songs have like 250,000. streams and the Missy Mountains is like 500 million. It's like whatever. We got to get this song into the billion listen club or whatever for Spotify. Let's do this.

You got to get Richie Arms on the show. Be like, how did you tap into like the universal? By the way, I want to give credit to Skippy again. Skippy was one who discovered it. Yeah. So shout out Skippy. And I'm reaping all the benefits. Okay.

So I'm not reaping any benefits. What movie is it from specifically? The Hobbit. The first one. Isn't there three of those? Yeah. Oh, okay. Anyway, so one of you're trying to find it.

Yeah. Every one of these songs has like three to five million listens, and Misty Mountains has 141 million. That's awesome. We got to find how many soundtracks or albums are like that, where there's one song with a hundred, literally a hundred times more than the rest. It's kind of incredible.

I mean, that those numbers yet. Have you guys seen the movie The Nice Guys with Ryan Gosling and Russell Crow? Yeah. I don't think I can die. Did you fall off the roof? name in that movie is the porn star who dies at the start of that movie who's kind of like

the driving force finding out this is the email. You're spoiling chess email. Is that right? Yes. Wait, you just pulled that? Yeah, I just pulled that. Didn't even.

That's, wow, Craig. I'm actually favorite. Wait, so her name is Misty Mountains? Wait, so her name is Missy Mountains. Yeah, the porn star in the nice guys. Great job. It's Misty Mountains. Yeah.

Wow. I'm sure that's a token reference. To like help put your baby to sleep, there are two very different options that could pop up on your computer. That's hilarious. Misty Mountains humming. Maybe don't Google that.

Misty Mountains Humming. Humdinger? Yeah. Hummer. Are you guys really worth the term Hummer? The slang term? It might have just been from like the early odds in 90s. When I was growing up, it was the car. Okay.

What was it? Now I'm afraid. No, no. Not the big giant truck, like the military thing. Hummer is something completely different. I know it's something, but I got to tell you, I don't know what it is. Enlighten me, Danny. Daniel?

Well, the slang that I'm aware of, there's probably a lot of them. But it's when you're getting fallated. What's the term? Falatio? Felidid? And they hummed? Felidid? Felated.

And they're humming to add a little bit of, like, vibration, you know? Oh. It's the waves. What too? Get a hummer. I don't know. I mean, maybe misty mountains. Maybe you're humming misty mountains.

Put you to sleep. Well, now we're just corrupting this very pure song and for very pure reasons, but yes. I think it was corrupted when Richie Arms decided to call it the name of the porn star from the movie. And that was the name of the song. Maybe it's an homage. Misty Mountains is fucking the book, The Hobbit, which was made like a hundred years or however many years ago. I was going to say, even the Hobbit movies came out before nice guys. You don't know what Tolkien was into, man.

When did Tolkien write The Hobbit? I don't know. So like in the 40s? 40s, yeah. I don't know. Let me look it up. That's your piece of. Trivia today.

Did anyone else think it's weird that Albert Einstein was just like alive in like 1960? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Same with like Picasso. Isn't that weird? Yeah, dude, totally. Picasso was just like living in the 1900s.

Yeah. I don't know why that's so weird to be wild. What was his favorite movie? Do you think? Yeah. Picasso. You know what the other weird one to me is that this is the opposite? Picasso died in 1973.

Yeah. The other weird one, Craig, is that Andy Warhol said the everyone wants 15 minutes of fame quote like 50 years ago, which kind of blows my mind. mind. He said that like 60 years ago. Like, is it weird that Albert Einstein could have had McDonald's? Yeah. Actually, really, this is a great prompt because I really love like weird timeline overlap facts.

Like anachronisms kind of. All right. Here we go. Email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. Weird acronistic facts. Like one, like the, I love the Cleopatra was born closer to the moon landing. than the building of the pyramids. It's like,

that's like at McDonald's. is so funny. There was one that was like, Nintendo was like, the company was incorporated at, like, in the 1800s or something like that. Oh,

like Nintendo was founded before, like Van Gogh painted the starry night. Like that was the one. Oh my God. But the, also wait, also emails, if you want,

we've been doing a crescendo playlist, the crescendo playlist, which we were talking about a whole of the thing. If you wanted emails that ring your face, Football at gmail.com as well while you're at it. But do go whole crescendo playlist too. Okay. So first of all, Nintendo was founded in 1889.

Wow. That's wild. And then second fact, The Hobbit was written in 1937 or published in 1937. Oh, wow. So, man, almost 100 years ago. This is another one of those fact, like date facts. Somebody said that 1917 and 1970, like from 1973 to now is the same. same as going from 1973 to 1917.

That is awful. That is awful. Fucking wild. Sal and Bill. Sal and Bill were talking about how they were going to see a Stevie Nix concert and they were trying to figure out 50 years later and they realized

that that's the equivalent of their parents seeing someone, that they were the equivalent of their parents seeing someone who made a cool song in 1917. In the Great War. Like, what the fuck? Back in the Depression. I know that I'm kind of fudging the numbers

with that stuff. I'm going to be telling my grandkids that I'm like, I can't, I can't go come to dinner tonight. Your grandmother and I are going to go see Duolipa sing levitating, and it'll be 2081. I got LMFAO's in town. I won't be able to make dinner tonight. Hold on. I'm trying to create an image of Albert Einstein eating at McDonald's. Trying to get that going on.

Are you doing like the dolly? Have you ever, have you, did you try to just Google it? Like, what if that just exists? Oh, no, I actually didn't think of that. I was going to make it for fake, but maybe he actually had it. No, but there are fake photos on Google that you can... What do you think he would have ordered? A big Mac.

Quarter pounder. What's your McDonald's order? Craig's too crunchy to go to McDonald's. Craig definitely gave him fast food like three years ago. Three cheeseburgs? In and out. Hit it out. Oh, I closed my tabs.

I'm back to the Dan Lanning tattoo of his wife. This is maybe one of our most unhitched. Yeah, we should probably get out of here. Did we talk about football? I don't remember. We should probably leave. All right. Thank you,

D.K., thank you. We fixed the NFL, and after that, I feel like we don't, we've fulfilled our obligation for the episode. All right. Thank you, Carlos, for producing this episode and for really towing the line well of being really salty, but all suppression about the Dolphine season. Thank you for listening.

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Thank you, Anna Lapwood. I sent you guys this video last night on Instagram, as I want to do. I'm the old man that sends you guys in Scram. I love it. And it was Anna Lapwood

playing the interstellar theme song on, A gigantic pipe organ in London. And it's like the coolest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. You did send me that. That was actually really cool. It is sick.

I love the interstellar soundtrack, but also. Pipe organ. The biggest pipe organ. The biggest pipe organ. I thought I had the biggest pipe organ. It's unfortunately named instrument. I think John Hamm would beg to differ with Anna. The Hamiconda.

Yeah. I think he would beg to differ. But yeah, it moves you. It's a moving piece. It certainly does. What was I going to say? Oh, yeah. Have you listened to anything else of hers or just the Interstellar song?

Are you a fan of her generally? Well, I just discovered her yesterday and I listened to some of the other stuff. There's a lot of things like that. She plays like all kinds of stuff, like classical music, anything that involves in Oregon? I don't know. It's the biggest organ in the world. This place is truly on my bucket list. I'm not kidding.

I got to go to this place. Honey, we got to go see the giant organ. You're like Clark Griswold. That's actually very true. I'm going to take my family on a trip. To go see this giant organ. It's a pilgrimage, really. This is your wild world.

John Hamm was with us the whole time. It's funny, but like I genuinely want to go to this place. It looks incredible. Like Calvin's first memory of a vacation is going to be getting dragged to London to see a giant fucking organ in a cathedral. Maybe we'll see Benedict Cover Match there. Betty comes. NBA, like when the player sits, it's like, yeah, Annalapu's not even here today. I don't see Betty comes anywhere.

We're load managing, Anna? Oh, my God. All right, goodbye, everyone. Incredibly impressive, I will say. John Hamm or Anna Lapwood? I laugh that you brought it back to John Hitt. Goodbye. Must be 21 plus and present in select states.

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