The Ringer NFL Show - Week 2 Recap: Burrow’s Toe, Daniel’s Dimes, the Russaissance, Detroit Is BACK, and Eagles-Chiefs Sucked

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

The guys recap all of the NFL Week 2 action by going through categories such as Winners and Losers, the Oppenheimer Award, Stadium Pulse of the Week, and so much more. (0:00) Intro (1:29) ‘Sunday Night Football’: Falcons-Vikings (6:32) Joe Burrow’s turf toe injury (8:24) The late slate (30:56) Winners and Losers (41:43) Fart or Shart (51:38) The Oppenheimer Award (56:30) It’s So Over. We’re So Back. (58:55) The Debutante Ball Award (01:01:56) The WORST Play of the Day (01:04:12) Stadium Pulse of the Week (01:07:15) The Arthur Smith/Shawn Hochuli Award (01:10:08) The Lucille Bluth Award (01:11:10) Fantasy Burn Book Check out our 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here!  Email us! [e-mail] The all-new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ring of Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hylianne Huyves, and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Krollback. For now, Craig is going to go to the Emmys tonight because I guess he's, you know, fancy or whatever. So we're doing this first, well, the second portion of the show will be the three of us. And just, I'll talk about the early slate of games, right, Craig? Yep. The early slate. Early window.

The morning slate, yeah. The morning. Yeah. Don't please. And so then, but we're going to hear right now after this break is going to be Dek and I talking about Sunday Sunday football, Chiefs Eagles, all the other stuff. after the early window of games, those four games. And then we're going to come back in.

We're going to have Craig's thoughts in the early games. And then, yeah, Craig, fancy big wig at the Emmys. Yes, so stick around. We've got a great show for you today. Ace of Bases here. Stick around and we'll be right back. This episode of the Ring of Fantasy Football Show is presented by Hyundai. The all-new Hyundai Palisade hybrid proves that an incredible SUV is so much more than the

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Craig's at the end. He's doing what I hope he's at a bunch of parties. That would be cool. Just having the time of his life without him. If he's not, then he should have just been doing this show. But hopefully he's having a fun time. So we are going to go through the four. games. We recorded with Craig earlier in the day.

We're going to go through the four games that happened after that recording. So Falcons just beat the Vikings 22 to 6 in Sunday football. I mean, there were no touchdowns for 57 minutes. And it wasn't because of electric defense. It was good defenses beating the crap out of overwhelmed quarterbacks. Right, D.K.? Yeah, absolutely. I think, you know, obviously, talk about J.J. McCarthy did not have a good game.

we are now looking at seven out of eight quarters of his like year so far being pretty atrocious, which is definitely disconcerting. I took down the stats of outside of last week's first, outside of last week's fourth quarter where he went like unconscious and scored three touchdowns and led the Vikings to a comeback win. He is now 18 of 33 for 214 yards, zero touchdowns, three picks, six and a half yards per attempt. Everything is too slow. this is, I guess, what you'd expect from a young quarterback coming into the league and, you know, it wasn't super experienced in the first place.

I think the ball is just coming out way too slowly. He, in the NFL right now, he leads the league in sack rate 20%. He was sacked five times in the first quarter or in the first half alone in this game. So everything is just too slow. There are, I think, concerns about just like how slowly the ball is getting to players downfield sometimes. Like, I don't know. Everything just needs to speed up with him. So, Jay J.J. McCarthy.

he worries some performance in this game, but, you know, obviously not giving up on him right now. Excuses, excuses, excuses. I'll make them right now. J. Jim McCarthy's first two NFL games, they're supposed to look bad. They happen to be on Monday to football and Sunday to football.

Almost never happens for rookies, but he's not a rookie, so it happened for him. I kind of think of these games were at 1 p.m. Eastern or some people call it 10 a.m. Pacific. If the games were then, we wouldn't care. Well, we wouldn't be talking about it nearly as much. No, so it's having, and also it was like his second game ever in the NFL, and he had a baby four days ago,

and it's like he missed practice. And I'm like, okay, so we went on Sunday football after missing a practice instead of a child. Weird week. Having said that, if JJ McCarthy is still playing like this in like six weeks, this is an unmitigated disaster. Well, especially since they moved on from Sam Donald in the offseason. Sam Darnold helped them win 14 games last year.

He threw 35 touchdowns. You know, and obviously Sam Darnold is a veteran who's been around. And now the Vikings are in a situation where they have a team that you think could compete, you know, in the NFC, to be one of the best teams outside of the quarterback. Now they're kind of developing their quarterback. I thought he would hit the ground running faster. And I think we all did, but it's the trap of like, well,

Donald did, so McCarthy did. I'm like, well, we didn't see him play. There's no, you know, but we heard so much about him getting mental reps while he was hurt. It hasn't shown so far. I will say the other excuse offensive line for Minnesota is really banged up, you know, left tackle Christian Derrissos hurt. His backup got hurt in this game.

So they were in third string. They can't run the ball. No, that affects T.J. Hawkinson ends up. having a block more. It just affects everything. Can't run. Aaron Jones got hurt. Like Ryan Kelly, the center left the game is all those issues. Having said that the Falcons defensive lines way better. They added the draft of the two first rounders. We made fun of them for trading up a future first to get them. But they looked like Atlanta had a pass rush. Yeah. Atlanta had a pass rush for the first time in forever.

It was like they had the most sacks in the first half in 15 years. Like that's awesome. But honestly, the story of the game for Atlanta is like Bejohn Robinson, he's, it's Sequin Gibbs and Bejohn. And honestly, I don't think Bejohn's third. It's like, I think Seekwan just out of the lore of the last season is first. Bejohn, to me, I think it's like a top three, top four skill player in the entire league. Yeah, I think there were, you know, just being on this team and, you know, the Falcons weren't super good last year, I think people have kind of forgotten how good Bijan is and why he was such a highly lauded prospect coming into the league.

And this game, to me, was just a perfect reminder of why he was such a high pick and why teams are so enamored with him. I mean, he is just so big, so expensive. So decisive with his cuts. He has a very unique sort of forward lean style run where he almost looks like he's stumbling. He just he looks, he's like leaning so far forward. He's doing the Michael Jackson thriller. He just has a unique running gate, but he's so good and he makes such sharp cuts that guys just consistently overpursue when they're trying to tackle him and he just cuts back against the grain.

He's so good. So explosive. The first two plays of the game is like 17 yards and 25 yards. And then at that point we're like, okay, that's what this is. going to this type of game is going to be. Panics, I don't think, really did a whole lot. 13 to 21 for 135 yards, but they really didn't need him to do that much. Didn't look sharp, didn't need him as much as the Vikings.

They just were able to run the ball so well in this game. And the Vikings couldn't. So obviously credit to the Falcons, you know, where credit is due, they drafted two pass rushers and both those guys made impact plays tonight. And it's nice to see them finally have a pass rush. So, yeah. No, I totally agree. The other thing I want to just hit on quickly, we talked about this later in this episode with Craig about Joe Burrough's injury.

I want to just give an update where the thing we found out since that is actually Joe Burrow going to be out for three months? Yeah, at least three months. Well, that's what the reporting is saying right now. I think there's still a chance he could go and see this special. There's word that he's going to go see a specialist and see what this guy says. But right now the reporting is that he will be out for three months at least. When the way this information has come out generally means that it would be three months or months. more, not three months or less.

So Joe Burrow, again, now he toured an ASEL rookie year. Two years of grade, the wrist injury. I mean, that each cost them like half a season. And now it's like, this is going to be three months of the-month-old. He's already won the comeback player of the year twice. He's 208. He's going for the three-peat. Real quick.

Now, just an update to what we talked about later, D.K. How do you feel like just Chase, Higgins, Chase Brown with Jake Browning? I mean, play beer with Pong with us at the Super Bowl instead of Joe. He sunk it on his first try, too, I think. Just a baller. Just a gamer. I think big picture the Bengals are clearly not as good

with Jake Browning at quarterback That's like an obvious thing But I think from a fantasy point of view Not all is lost Jake Browning showed last year And in this game honestly That he can kind of keep things going He's going to turn the ball over a lot more than Burrow does

But he's willing to turn the ball loose And push it down the field And so like I don't I'm not really really afraid For Jammar Chase and T. Higgins going forward Even if Burrow is out It's obviously less than ideal.

It sucks. Fantasy and for reality, but you know, Jake Browning can still at least keep these guys alive in fantasy. Fantasy football's stupid because Daniel Jones was a 10,000 times better draft pick than Joe Burrow. That's why fantasy football's dumb.

Brutal. Whose fantasy is Daniel Jones over Joe Burrow? Stupid sport. Anyway, all right. Speaking of stupid games, Eagles Chiefs, the Eagles beat the Chiefs 20 to 17. Chiefs are 0.2. DK, what did you make of this game?

Maybe I just have fantasy brain, and that's definitely possible, but this was like such a boring game. Did you have fun watching this game? It was just too ugly ass offenses, the grinding out. It was just a terrible game from both quarterbacks. Patrick Mahomes, I think, led the team in rushing, led the chiefs in rushing. It was just, I don't know, it was one of those games where both defenses dominated until the very end. the Eagles got a couple of calls that kind of went their way and gritted out a win in Kansas City, which obviously is impressive, but like from an entertainment point of view, this was not a fun game to watch.

No, the Chief said like three good drives. They had the one with the Mahomes rushing touchdown. They had the touchdown that Kelsey turned into an interception. Right. And then like you just handed Andrew McCubert with the ball. And then the last touchdown at Tyquoan Thornton, but they never got the ball back. And everything else was pretty brutal. It's eight punt.

The teams come by for eight punts in this game. Um, Jalen Hertz didn't complete a pass. You wrote this down. Didn't complete a pass past six yards until 10 minutes left in the game. Basically, he was just dinking and dunking. I got a text during the game that like is basically Mahomes just Justin Fields now. Mahomes is like scrambling around making all these plays. There was one play where he lowered his shoulder and truck stick a defender to get a first down.

Um, led the team with 66 yards and touched on the ground. He missed a, he did end up hitting that deep pass. to attack one Thornton for a touchdown late in the game. But man, there was a couple of other plays where he had guys open downfield and he completely overthrew him. It's just so weird to see him so inaccurate on those plays. Well, what? I just not to be all like Gordon Ramsey, like, oh, dude, don't criticize Mahomes.

I'm like, I don't watch the Chiefs. It would be like Patrick Mahomes is the problem. No, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying these offenses are hard to watch. The offenses are very hard to watch. But I'm very jealous of an analogy that Bill, made on his show.

I forget when he said it, that these chiefs are like 09 Patriots in that they're kind of like between dynastic eras. Like the chiefs just had like a six year like dynasty run, three Super Bowls and five Super Bowl, five Super Bowl appearances, three Super Bowls. And like frankly, they're all just like riding

the high of like they traded away Tyree Kill stole two Super Bowls, but they just shoestring and bubble gum that left tackle and wide receiver. And now they're hitting here like worthy as her. She writes is suspended. Josh Simmons is a rookie whose best skill seems to be running down, who are trying to split. That was an incredible play.

Unbelievable play. Low-key, one of the best things anyone's done all season. I think I saw you reached 18 miles an hour on that. That was crazy. That was like actually so that is actually a good reminder of how crazy athletic these guys. That's why it's so hard to play left tackle. Like, why can't they find out left tackle? It's like because you have to be like 6, 6, 320 and be able to run down an NFL safety.

That was sick play. Having said that, man, the Chiefs Wide receivers are so beat. And, like, I feel like we almost don't talk enough about the fact that who had the bit, who did we talk so much recently about having the worst NFL receiving core? I feel like we said so much that the Patriots had nobody. The chiefs are essential players in their chief's offense are two different players. New England has cut. Like, Juju Smith-Schuster and Take 1 Thornton, we're not good enough to make the New England Patriots.

Just absolute essential players in the Kansas City offense. The thing couldn't exist without these guys. And at some point, what that was? Cream Hunt would not be. be in the NFL. If the Chiefs cut Kareem Hunt, I don't even know if the Texans inside him. I don't think it'd be in the NFL. That's a third of their offense. It's funny because

I think coming into this year, we were excited about the Chiefs because it felt like their offensive skill players were coming together, at least at the receiver position. When Rishie Rice is back and when Xavier Worthy is back, like they will have a pretty dynamic group there. But Worthy got hurt in the third play of the game, and we thought Rish Rice was going to get suspended September

28th and then they did it. They did a plea deal basically. But I would say, you know, you mentioned Thornton and Schuster even with Thornton his speed I think he's just so much of a sort of one trick pony and even with Marquis Brown

who is theoretically fast he is more of just like the underneath like pepper him with short targets and have him run around a little bit watching the Chief's offense they still just look really slow to me that is like the main thing I notice every time I watch them lately is they just look slow

And so I think that's a huge problem. And she's genuinely only employ the slowest and fastest players in the NFL. There's very few. There's nobody in the middle. It's like it's like Kareem Hunt, Pacheco unfortunately is on this list now. And Travis Kelsey are like three of the slowest players that are skilled players in the NFL. And then Tyquan Thornton and Xavier Worthy are like, and Juju Smith-Schuster's also slow as hell. And then Tyquan Thornton and Jujo and Xavier Worthy are two the fastest people alive.

And there's no one in the middle and you see it. And I just, it's so, it's such a slog. It's so tough to watch. But then, yeah, the Eagles, though, are weird because they're like watching, they're like a Batmobile that like won't start. It's really weird sometimes. And I think there's a lot of stuff with this like Kevin Petullo off. He's the offensive coordinator took over the Eagles offense. He's probably going to get a lot of flack, fair or not.

But basically the idea being that outside coordinators have done well with the Segal's offense and people who were like Siriani's guys that kind of maybe there's a lack of ideas or creativity. I don't know if that's fair or. not, but like just, Jalen, literally at the end of the game, Chris Jones yelled at Jalen Hurts. Like, you didn't have 100 yards. And Jailen Hurts,

like, shut the fuck up. We won the game. Which is funny. But also, yeah, just, Jailen Hertz had seven, we joked all the time about who had more passing yards

each week, Navy or Justin Fields. Jailen Hertz had seven more passing yards than the Navy offense this week. Yeah. And so, like, that's not the plan. And honestly, 28, a third of it was basically like a Devante Smith ball that got lucky.

I saw the stat, Spagnolo blitzed Hertz on 16 out of 25 dropbacks in this game, which is the highest rate he's ever done since taking the job in Kansas City. So they blitzed him on, you know, a ridiculous amount of his dropbacks. And Hertz was basically just trying to get rid of the ball quickly and avoid sacks. And they didn't do much on offense. What did he finish? He had 101 yards on 22 attempts.

Yeah, it's crazy. We have all week to talk about the chiefs are 0 and 2. 90% of teams to start 0 and 2 don't make the playoffs. It's not like any of those teams had Patrick Mahomes or super winning teams. However, the Chiefs have won the ABC West

10 straight times that now in last place. So I... Well, they won 15 games last year, right? Well, they lost two games all of last season. And now they already lost two games. So this is, I mean... And the one score,

they went 17 in a row winning one score games. Yeah, that was what I was going to say. Shield brought this up and it's so true. Last year, the Chiefs in games decided by seven points or last were 10 and O in games this year. decided by seven points or less their own too. It's just that's why everyone talks about variance.

And for the longest time, I just believed that Patrick Mahomes is unkillable. You know what I mean? He is just that guy who can lean you back late in the game and execute when it absolutely has to happen. But, you know, I think in this game in particular, the Eagles just didn't really let him, right? Like they just kind of drain the clock out. I want to talk about the Eagles. And I will,

the staff that I want to, I don't. understand and want to acknowledge is the Eagles put this out that Nick Siriani owns his record is 50 and 20 which is 71% winning percentage. He's passed George Allen for the second best winning percentage by head coach in the Super Bowl era only trailing John Madden. And he's the seventh head coach in Enflus Street Ridge 50 wins in 70 games joining Paul Brown, George Seifert, Guy Chamberlain, Chuck Knox, Vince LaBardi, Don Shula. Some legendary names there. And then Nick Siriani. I fucking love that. Yeah. Anyway, but so I do I do have to say that we have to talk with the tush bush.

And yes. So. Have you noticed this before that this is a thing that they do before? A little. Am I like an idiot? A little, but I think today was the most egregious it's ever been. It was the most obvious. So basically the eagles are doing the tush push.

And the tush push, honestly, kind of, there were two things that changed this game. Travis Kelsey in the tish push. The biggest play of the game was Travis Kelsey just patched bums threw women touchdown in the end zone. And Travis Kelsey just, it hit his hands and he hit it off his own face. into an Eagles player, Andrew Bacuba, who ran it like 60 yards the other way, and Josh Simmons stopped to pick six. But that, and it was this a three-point game, like- I mean, that's the, yeah, and that's the type of-

that's the whole game. That's the type of variance you talk about when teams are winning one-score games. Exactly. Sooner or later, plays like that are going to happen. AJ Brown also, the next drive, bobbled a ball that hit his hands. It went straight up. Guess what the Chiefs couldn't catch it. They like dove.

And that's the margin. The other thing that changed this entire game was the tush push, because the tush push ended the game on the final drive she was going to get it back but the Eagles scored their touchdown

on the on the game they got the going touchdown with the touch push the push. There's been, people have been quibling with the formations the Eagles use.

It's like the way people align up both sides, offense defense is just like preposterously not really the way it's supposed to go on the touch push.

But the guard, the way football works, and I'm going to just say this because I don't know if it's really obvious. The play doesn't start when the quarterback says like hike or whatever.

the play begins when the center snaps the ball. The movement of the ball is the beginning of the play. And the coordination of the offense, knowing when they're going to snap the ball, is how the offense gets an advantage on a given play, but especially the tush-bush. Knowing the snap count is why it works. The Eagles, guards,

are going before the ball is snapped. And it's never... And they did it like multiple times, so you know it is 100% intentional for the record. I don't know if it's intentional as much as it might not have to be intentional as much as they talked about this on Sunday football snapping the ball when you're the center on the tush-bush's ass

and like you kind of have to I don't know exactly it's just they're kind of everyone's amped up man everyone's juiced up I don't know if it's intentional or not they're all just trying to go but clearly the Eagles have been getting away with it long enough that it's crept into the routine of like the guards in this game on the touchdown were so egregiously early Andy Reid could not believe they didn't call a false start yeah yeah and I actually

very obvious when you watch the video, the two guards, their helmets dive down below the center before he snaps the ball. And that's like, I think, critical for how they kind of do their submarine blocks. I think there's going to be like a performative flag on the Eagles next week when they do the touch push

just to be like, no, no, no. Like, everyone's mad enough about you. Like, don't make this thing. I mean, it's similar in a different way to like how, you know, how the left tackle for the chiefs back of the couple years ago last year. I can't remember when it was. He kept lining it. Getting a jump

on the snap. Andy was lining up like way off the line. That's the funny. You couldn't be more on D.K., because on one hand, this is a totally game-changing thing that the Eagles, if they false started, it would have been fourth and six at the goal line and it would have been a completely different game.

However, the last people anyone wants to hear complaint about false starts is Chiefs fans. I don't care what you think. No one in the country outside of Kansas City gives a fuck. The chiefs are the team that the NFL is cheating for, remember? Literally 30 other teams complaining about this would be received better than the chief's complaining about it. Having said that, everyone's kind of getting mad at the Tush Push, too.

I'm still team like, it's kind of funny that everyone's like, it's unstoppable, but no one else is good at doing it yet. I'm like, you're just mad they won. Look, I've been on record. I love the Tush Push. I think it's so cool how they've essentially commandeered an extra down because they can so consistent. constantly convert on third and fourth down. It's just incredible what they're able to do with that. I just think it's really funny that people want to ban new ideas rather than like dare like

learn how to do them, but whatever. Not my job. I will say overall, though, Travis Kelsey had a brutal game. The chiefs just don't look good. But again, the chiefs have, they're just in between eras. And I think that later when Rashid Exhibor Worthy and Josh Simmons are like more veteran, could be good. Are you worried that they're not going to make the playoffs at this point now?

Or you just kind of like wait and see? Yeah, Chiefs have two juggernauts coming up, the Giants and the Ravens. So that's tough. Chiefs do have Ravens, Lions, left in their schedule and stuff. Other games, I want to hit it here before we get to everything else that happened. Colts, Broncos. I mean, Daniel Jones and the Colts beat Denver Broncos. Colts are 2-0.

Yeah, this is classic. I love the NFL. You just literally never know how things are going to go. Obviously, I'm kind of a Daniel Jones hater. I don't know where you land on Jones these days, whether you think this is real or not. but Danny Dimes was 23 or 34, 316 yards, and a touchdown, had another rushing touchdown through two weeks in fantasy. He's the quarterback three.

He has 111 pass rating, which is six best. My take on this, and by the way, Sheila Capadia, our colleague, said that the best offense in the NFL based on EPA per drive and success rate right now is in Indianapolis Colts. And they played a damn good defense today. I don't think that Daniel Jones actually played that well today. I think the Colts are playing really well overall. I think the Colts defense.

Cam Bynam, I think, is the most underrated player in the NFL. Like, it's kind of crazy to think that the Vikings let Cam Bynam go the way that, I mean, he's the, he's the celebration guy, but he's gone beyond that. I think he's actually one of the better safety is playing right now. And you have another good celebration. Yeah, he put the ball under his shirt. He got another pick, put the ball in his shirt. He did, like the weird.

I'm not going to do it on camera, but the, what's with mascots and hip thrusts? Why are mascots? It's a lot of, it's provocative. Yeah, no, it is provocative. It was very provocative. But so Cam Byan play great. But honestly, Jonathan Taylor played. played out of his mind.

Yeah. He looks like the best running back in the NFL other than maybe Pejohn, right? Obviously, and then Sequin, but he looked electric. 215 scrimmage yards in this game. 25 rushes 165 yards plus 50 yards on the ground or sorry, and through the air and a touchdown. He hit 22.4 miles per hour,

which is the fastest ball carrier speed since where he most start back in 2020. And he's like, you know, 220 pounds. He is so explosive. so silky smooth when he gets going. The other thing that was interesting about this was obviously we were all like Denver going to be the best defense in the NFL or whatever, at least one of them.

And the cult and the whole strength that Denver has, I mean, Patrick Surtain was the defensive player of the air cornerback. They have Ralea Moss. They drafted Johnny Barrett. Like the Colts went at the Broncos cornerbacks. A lot of people throw away from Certain. He did tweak his ankle in this game,

but the Colts were like, we're bigger than you. They were like, Tyler Warren's huge. Michael Pittman's huge. Alec Pierce is not small. And they just kind of were like, yeah, we're just going to, like, post you guys up. And which is kind of what the idea was in theory for a long time, but it was interesting to see it kind of,

it's not like they dominated Denver in the air, but like they really, I mean, the running game was very impressive in Indy. And also the defense, man, the defense looks really good. So, yeah, the Colts, it was really fun. I will say we have to say, though, the call at the end of the game was, the Broncos were very disciplined in saying after the game, no game is about one play.

having said that, hard to find a clear example of the outcome of a game shifting on a call. Because what happened was, if you didn't see it, was the game, it was pretty perfect for an issue where the Colts were down two points and attempting a 60-yard field goal with functionally like two seconds on the clock. And they missed the kick. Game over. Also, I think that they did a pretty weird and poor job of getting themselves in position to make a 60-yard field goal to win the game. they were like really taking their sweet time and running very weird plays to get to that point. And they kind of screwed themselves.

And so then the refs threw a flag on the miss kick and say leveraging the one of the defensive line of the Broncos like you're not allowed to use like other players as launching pads. Like you're not allowed to like jump on your teammates back and then jump up like a double jump like Mario and try to block the kick. You're also not allowed to jump on top of an offensive lineman and double jump like a box jump or something.

That's not what he did. And you also don't a lot of jump over the long snapper because it's like a safety thing because he has a snap. They didn't do any of those things. The guy that was over the snapper at the last second switched over and then kind of dunked on the guard. But instead of dunking a basketball, he just tried to. But you know when people dunk sometimes,

they kind of like take the guy's head and just kind of shove it under their crotch, you know, and be like he kind of did that. It was kind of like a little helmet slap of like, I don't want my balls to hit your head. And you jump over him or whatever. Well, you know, straight up. You're posturizing a guy.

and you don't want your balls to, like, get, I don't know. I don't, you know, I've never dunked. I don't know the play. Okay. But you know what I'm talking about. I think go to dunk, one hand up and one hand on the other guy's head. And they called leverage penalty. That's not what that is.

He did not like gain a foot by pushing up on this guy's head. He hit it out of the way. And it changed the whole game. And then they got him a 15-yard penalty, 45-yard kick. Colts win it. They win the game. I think charitably, it was a tiki-tack call. And if we were getting serious, like it was a ghost call.

So, yeah, it was obviously a really, really big deal. I don't even know what to say about these things. It just sucks. So the only thing I can think of, and I think that the most underrated part of these calls is there are two different things. There's league emphasis and stuff. And then there's all the most underrated part of like, why'd they call that is, I want to go back and look at the other kicks in the game, is the other team is screaming at the rest. He's doing this. He's doing this.

Constantly. So when you're like, where'd they look at that from? Where'd they get the idea that this cornerback's holding? The receiver has been screaming at the ref that the guy's holding for 58 minutes. Like, that's usually where comes from. So if right before the kick, Shane Steichen, or I guess the cult special team coordinator, goes up to the ref is like, look, he's been doing this whole game. Look, he's going to jump and leverage.

And then the ref's like, damn, yeah, put his head on the head. He's leverage. But like he probably never, you know what I mean? And I'm not saying that happened. Yeah, it is like lobbying. You work the refs. Anyway, I'm not saying that that. That's what happened in the situation.

But, like, you never see it. So anyway, that sucks. Yeah, it was a brutal turn of events for sure. Yeah. Later in the episode with Craig, we're like, we're not sure what the worst rough moment of the week is. That's absolutely it. Last game that happened here in the late window,

and then we're going to get to all the early window games with Craig. Cardinals beat the Panthers 27-22. What a weird game. Arizona was up 27 to 3, and then they almost turned Bryce Young into Falcon Super Bowl, Tom Brady. they almost gave up a 27 to 3 lead. I mean, yeah, I think like if you're looking for silver linings from the Panthers point of view,

because obviously the Cardinals, I think, should have won this game, and they did end up winning the game. They did enough to win. So that's good for them. For the Panthers, I thought Bryce looked more confident, especially in the second half. Like he brought them back in the end of the game and gave them a chance to, like, be in the game and gave them a chance to win. In the second half, they had touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, turnovers on down,

Turnover on downs to end the game, which is basically he took a sack on fourth down, which is not great, obviously. Get rid of the fucking ball. But he ended up, Bryce ended up 35 or 55, 328 yards, three touchdowns a pick. I thought he looked a lot better than last week. Do you think I'm being dramatic where Bryce Young and this comeback looked on alternating plays unbelievable, complimentary, and then unbelievable, like, derogatory? Yes. Yeah.

Very few average plays for Bryce Young in this game. It was magical or, like, absolutely, like, stomach churning. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, obviously, there's not a whole lot to say about this game for people in Carolina looking for like silver linings. Tim McMillan looks really good.

He's the type of player where I've seen enough already. He's going to be a legit player in the league. He had six sketches for 100 yards. He also had a sick one-hander down, deep down the sideline where he like went around the defender and one-handed it but just couldn't get in bounds. Yeah, that was cool. And it's just funny. This game I thought was pretty indicative of one thing, which is how important it is to hit on your early draft picks in the draft.

Because Ted McMillan, to me, looks like a surefire playmaker for them. I could even go far enough to say I think he's going to be star in the league. And then the contrast between last year's first rounder, Xavier Liggett, who had eight targets, one catch and negative two yards. And he had a carry that went for Nick for zero yards. So he had nine touches, sorry, nine opportunities. one catch negative two years. Panthers took Ligget over Ladd-Baconke. Just, I didn't understand the pick of the time.

Too raw, like, you know, I think he was a fifth year senior. He hadn't really done anything until that last year. All the warning flags are there. He's just explosive. So they think they got, you know, there's like glitter. They just got. Honestly, I think he's from the Carolinas. And I think he's very Carolina.

And I think that the owner looked at that as a tiebreaker. That's my God. It's not like reported information. I think it was close. I think he's a local kid. So the last, before Tet this last year in the first round, they had league at last year in the first round. Jonathan Brooks, unfortunately, who re-injured his knee in the second round.

And then the year before that, second rounder was Jonathan Mingo. Yeah. They traded to Dallas. Yeah, you whiff on picks and your team sucks. I just think this is such a clear example of, number one, first rounders don't always work out. And number two, it's how important it is for them to work out for your young quarterback. So Tim McMillan, I thought it was a big plus in this game, even though they lost.

This is why the Bengals fell off to stop hitting picks. If you ever look at any great team, they hit their first round picks, and then when they declined, it's because they stopped. Okay. Those were the four games plus the Burroughs that happened after we recorded with Craig. Now we're going to get to everything else that happened today with Craig. We're here. DK, Craig and I, we are recording.

The Giants are actually still playing. They're in overtime right now at the Giants Cowboys game. We are recording with the three of us because Craig is actually attending the M&E. The Emmys, because he's like a big wig now. So Craig actually is going to the Emmys. Yep. So we're recording during the end of these games. And yet I flew back from a Bachelor Party today.

So I actually missed the first quarter of some of these. I saw most of these games, but you guys were a little more locked in. So we're going to roll through all our categories here. I'm going to tell you right now, first winner is Russell Wilson. I don't want to jinx. Oh, and he just threw it. It's watching the game. Russell Wilson.

Is that a fumble? His stat line right now, Russell Wilson for the New York Johnson. He is 29 for 38 for 455 yards and three touchdowns. I mean, he's like, I imagine he's a puncher's. I feel every emotion possible. This game started absolutely preposterously. I think who's the tackle that had all the, is Hudson? James Hudson had four penalties on the first,

was it the first drive of the game? Yeah. Which I believe, my brother texted me that had not happened in a hundred years. I believe it. How do they know that? I'm surprised they were logging that. I think they said it. I don't know.

Maybe made it up. But the, I mean, so, I mean, I can't even keep track of everything that's going on in this game. But so Russell Wilson, the end of this, like the fourth quarter literally is by drive. Field goal, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal. That was literally how the game ended. It was like just bombs to Malik neighbors, Wondell Robinson. Like, he just, I don't, I, I have never gone 48 hours whiplash from the Giants of the worst team in the

to the Giants who would win the Super Bowl. Maybe. Yeah. This is exactly what we said last week. Russell Wilson still got it. We did not doubt him whatsoever. No. He didn't go on record saying that he's done, that it's over.

This is classic, though, because Russell Wilson will suck you in with his deep ball prowess. He's so fucking good at throwing the deep ball. It's just amazing. He literally, he is like the best in the NFL at throwing a deep ball, and that's what we saw today. It's too bad because there's five minutes left in overtime. and they're tied at 37, and the Cowboys just got the pun at the 40, so they're about to win this game

because they have to get, like, 10 yards, and Brandon Aubrey's going to hit a walk-off game winner, which sucks because of the Giants probably should have started 14-0, not 6-0, but... This is a hilarious Russell Wilson game. Hilarious. 454 yards. Once a year, he'll just be fucking incredible

and completely blow you away, and you'll convince yourself, could we beat something with Russell Wilson this year? Next week he'll probably throw four picks and get benched, but this is vintage... Russ. Juan Dale, too, by the way. Juan Dale Robinson,

142 yards receiving in this game. The slander went too far with these giants, I guess. Everything we said about the Giants was wrong, at least in this game. Maybe Jerry knew what he was doing by getting rid of Michael Parsons because he knew that if they have a worse defense, more high-scoring games, higher ratings. So maybe he's kind of like, I want to be, I want the Giants to be decent against us so we can actually have shootouts here and get ratings. So maybe that's why they trade away Michael Parsons.

Maybe he's playing chess. Chess not checkers. We can come back to this game when they actually, I'm telling you the companies are going to win this game. Also, Brandon Aubrey kicked a 64-yard field goal to tie the game and sends it overtime. The ball, as it crossed through the goalposts, I would say was probably halfway up the goalpost when it crossed over this ball. I feel like we've never had a more kicking dichotomy because a bunch of kickers missed extra points today,

but then other kickers are hitting 64. They get to mess with the balls. Now, the ball's juice, not literally, but they get to the balls now are way better than more less cheap. And massage the balls. Yeah, they're beating the shit out of the ball. Balls out of the pack. It's like a baseball mitt. It's like leathered out of the packaging doesn't work really well.

And so now imagine it. They used to get an hour and a half to beat in a baseball glove base with the kicking balls. Now they get a week or really whatever as much time as they want. So now we're going to see the kicking record broke multiple times this year. D.K., who's your winner so far for this week? Well, I got to go with Dan Campbell because last week we were talking about how if Ben Johnson comes in wins this game in Detroit. It's going to look really, really bad for Dan Campbell, who, you know,

there was a feeling that maybe Ben Johnson was the one who was responsible for the lion's success over the last couple of years, at least a large part of the responsibility for how good they were on offense. And obviously, week one, the Lions couldn't do anything. But they put that narrative to bed very quickly in this game, 52 to 21 over the Lions. The Lions offense was just electric in this game. Montmoreland-Ral St. Brown, three touchdowns. Jared Gough, 23 to 28, 334 yards, and five touchdowns.

And the run game was going. Isaac Tislav made another one-handed catch. Like, this guy just, all he does is make the most incredible catches you've ever seen in your life. The lions are going to be just fine is basically the point here. They ran the ball really, really well against, like, a defense set I thought looked pretty good last year, or last week, I should say, the Bears defense. And so, yeah, vibes are back. This is another example of, I think, where the lions are just, perfectly

like tuned for playing in a dome on turf where it's fast this is exactly like this is their bread and butter and I think they're just gonna be just fine. We talked about on Thursday how this game meant more for the lions that it did for the Bears and you could really feel it.

The lions were up 45 to 21 in the fourth quarter and Dan Campbell went for it on fourth down in the red zone and scored another touchdown to a Monorosa round to get them to 52. which ties the highest score they had last year with Ben Johnson was 52 points. And I feel like Dan Campbell was like, I want to show you that I can score exactly as many points as I could last year this year.

Jared Goss, five incompletions, five touchdowns, five different lines scored touchdowns. The only real lines was thinking of the day was when Gough tried to jump up in the stands and kind of couldn't get there and got like how. It's like me when I try to hop a fence. Like that wasn't really great. I agree. The aggressiveness at the end of the half, too, was crazy.

Like the, not crazy. he was smart, but the Lions were only up seven. Like it was 21-7. They weren't dominating the game. They were just winning. And the Lions were hyper-aggressive at the end of the half. Like the Isaac Tesla, there was a crazy clock ruling with that that I still don't actually totally understand where you caught it out of bounds, but it was in-bounds.

But actually, they called it wrong. So there was a- Whatever. The Lions just, frankly, were playing Madden with the way of like, oh, yeah, three seconds. I can do a play in two seconds. And then they got the Amman-Rest-Brown touchdown out of it at the end of the half. Like, yeah, the lines. they looked like the lines from last year. They did, which was huge.

I mean, obviously, we hope for that from the fantasy world, but just I think obviously for Dan Campbell, a little bit of pressure off his back here. And they looked exactly like they did last year. And by the way, the bear's offense didn't look good. Or at least, I mean, they moved the ball at times, but this was a huge blowout. There were moments, you know,

they had basically two great touchdown drives on the day, both ended up with Roma Dunesay touchdowns who looks like the kind of number one guy now. It looks like he is officially taking over in the receiving room. But there are times in Chicago where these drives look really clean and smooth and nice, and it kind of looks like the mini lions. It's like, oh, these guys are wide open. Roma Dunesday is just like running a crossing route.

Nobody's near him and he strolled into the end zone. You can feel that Ben Johnson just doesn't have everything clicking just yet, but there are moments where you can see it all coming together. Caleb, I thought, was fine. He had a really bad, dumb interception. but also a lot of nice throws. And the thing is, is like when Ben Johnson's offense is cooking,

I feel like the quarterback doesn't need to be a superhero. It is just Jared Goff sitting in the pocket and hitting open guys and being smart. Right. You know, and you could see moments of that today. Those two Roma Dunzee touchdown drives were like, oh, it's there. It's just going to take a while, I think.

Yeah, I agree with that. First of all, I got to let you guys know, Russell Wilson, about to get the ball back, which I can't believe the Cowboys couldn't get off the range. And overtime. They're going to, I can't think it's going to happen. Three, two, 50 left. They better not give the Cowboys the ballback.

DK. A loser on the day so far. Well, the Bengals won, but that's mainly because the Jags are terrible. Burrow has turf toe. Burrow is hurt again. This is terrible. Two quarterbacks with Turf Toe in the first two weeks. Brock Purdy and now Joe Burrow.

Yeah. And so he looked like he was in some massive amount of pain. Like he could barely walk. He was limping. It was the thing where he had to have two guys next to him. He had his arms over their shoulders to like get into the locker room. You know, turf to we've talked about this last year turf toe sounds innocuous we need to have some like really scary

word for this injury because it's really not a good thing uh for anybody because you know it's a really debilitating injury it's like very painful and i think it affects like the way you're able to plan your foot and all that stuff so this is potentially huge um browning i think actually played okay he had one really ugly pick i i didn't watch the game super closely in the second half he was he was okay he had three picks Oh, sorry, he had three picks, man. Dude, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, Joe Burrow went down in the second quarter of this game, and the Jags lost. Jake Browning came in, played two and a half quarters through three interceptions,

and the Jags lost this game. It was bad. Trevor Lawrence had two interceptions, one of which was, there was, I think they were inside the 10-yard line, and Lawrence had a pass-fisher, like, right in his face. And I get that that's an issue, but he just threw a pick that is the difference between being a veteran quarterback and being a young quarterback is, oh, my God, Russell was through an interception.

I'm going to, you know what, whatever, man. Russell was a, God damn. It was an arm put. This is the Ross experience. It was an arm point. He threw it way down the field. They took 59 seconds off. unbelievable, whatever, man.

But Trevor Lawrence is the difference being a vet and a pro is like inside the red zone, Trevor Lawrence just threw a pick. Like it was like the, terrible pick. One of the picks were like a random person in the crowd might have been able to catch it. Like he just lofted it to a defender. And frankly, in a four point game, he just threw away. Like that kind of is the difference.

But overall, like the Jaguars, Jake Brown and came in, just Joe Burrow losing. Sorry, Joe Burrow being hurt kind of cost the, should have cost the Bengals this game. And it is incredible that Jaguers. not able to win. And I will say, I made a mistake on the Friday show. I kept referring to the Bengals as 0-1-1 because I just kept thinking they had lost. It felt that way. It felt that way. And I don't really listen to Hy-Fitz, so I didn't correct it.

D-Ks is on Twitter when Hy-Viz is talking. Yeah, he's never listening to anything I've ever said. That's my bad. But it's ironic to Bengals are finally 2-0 and now Joe Burroughs hurt. Like, what a curse. You know what I mean? It's Bengals fans are like, we just want to start 2-0. And then you start 2-0 and now it's like, fuck. Rather, we're going to know-in-2 with Burrow.

This Bengals game is a great reminder of just the emotional swings that we can take in fantasy. Like last week, Jermar Chase two catches, right? And we're like, oh, God, maybe this team is really bad, whatever. Jamar Chase today, 14 catches for 165 yards in a touchdown.

Just went absolutely. I mean, that's crazy. Yeah. There was a bunch of other stuff that happened in this slate. That was like, okay, so we could just forget everything that happened in week one kind of deal. But that one in particular stands out. Two catches to 14.

To kind of stay in that vein, could we fast forward to fart or shart, please? Please. Yeah. Is that okay? Okay. DK. Yeah. Fart or shart?

The New York Jets. Offense. The Jets lost 30 to 10 to the Bills. This game was never close. Justin Fields today. D.K. I don't, have you looked at the box score, hyphids, or D.K. Have you guys looked at the statute?

I did. It's worse. I watched more of this game than you can possibly imagine. Okay. Well, then if D. D.K. looked. Hi, do you know Justin Field's stats for the day? Don't look. What do you think his passing stats were today?

Honestly, after, I wonder if he had, did he even have 120 yards passing? No. He barely had 20 yards passing. Justin Fields today was three for 11. He had three completions for 27 yards total today. How four under the game did it get concussed? He played almost all day. It was like third, late third early, maybe fourth quarter.

Yeah, he played almost the whole game. He was three for a whole game. for 27 yards. And the Jets in general, I mean, the bills last week got shredded on the ground by Baltimore. The Ravens ran for 238 yards in the bills last week. This week, the Jets had 154 total yards. Justin Fields, 27-yard passing. The Jets only had 100 yards rushing.

Grease Hall, 10 carries, 29 yards, D.K. Is this, which is real? Which was the fart and which was the chart? That doesn't really make sense, but you know what I'm asking. This, to me, feels. more like a fart. I think they'll be okay. I think that the week one performance was not real,

was not like indicative of what we could expect from them every week. Wouldn't that make this a chart? Well, I think, I guess, yeah, I don't know exactly how to define it. I think somewhere in the middle is what the Jets are going to end up being where they're going to pass for 27 yards in a game every week. But this is probably closer to what we should have, what we did, I think, expect with Justin Fields. And week one was an aberration.

So I guess yes. Is that, does that the definition of Shart then? I guess that is. I think the question is far to something that goes away a little bit, and Shard is like a huge problem that kind of runs your day or your season. And Shart's like a season long problem. I think this is both ends of the spectrum. But that Crescott just ran into a field go range.

The game's going to end. Yeah. Great. And you know what really sucks? Why the fuck should I be happy, D.K. Get a better pick next year. Why? Tell me why. You get a better pick.

Thanks. And you know what's worse is we bet the stupid Cal We're going to lose still. The Giants are going to lose and we're going to lose. We need a word for this. We need a word for where you bet against your team and they lose but don't cover the spread. It's like the team covers the spread but loses. Yeah, that's like the bad middle.

Exactly. Yeah, it's like the upside down. I don't know. The void. But yeah, no, I think this was really concerning. Honestly, I just looked at up. The time of possession was almost 40 minutes to 20, which totally matched the eye test of like the beginning was long bills drives or explosive bills plays. and the Jets couldn't sustain anything.

Like, I mean, they went three and out, and then they had a fumble, and then, like, they couldn't, they just, it felt like the Jets didn't have the football for, I wish I had looked this up, but watching the game, I felt like the Jets might have had the football

for five total minutes in the first half. Like the Bills just, every time you turn on the game, the Bills had the ball. Yeah, credit to the Bills for coming up with like a much better run-stopping scheme, but man, And this was very, very alarming.

And if you, I guess, sold high on the Jets in week one, maybe good for you. Right. Do you want to stay in fart or shard, D.K., do you have a fart or shart? Well, I think along the same lines, because I think the theme here is that week one was, you kind of, you get an opinion based on what happens in week one, and you think it's going to, like, be indicative of what goes on the rest of the season. And then in week two, you get to throw that completely out. That was the same with the Jets.

Same with the Bengals. Here I want to talk about Zach Sharvenet versus Kenneth Walker because this is going to, I feel like this is going to be a roller coaster all year long. I just, the reason I want to point this out is not to like shit on Charbonnet, but he had like one of the worst stat lines I have ever seen from a running back. I don't know if I've ever seen anything this bad. And by the way,

he picked up six yards on the final drive when they were just running out the clock. So he had 15 carries for 10 yards. At one point, it was 14 carries for five. yards. I don't know if I've ever seen that. And you guys got, you guys kind of made fun of me last week because I was like, I don't know, Kenneth Walker got a little unlucky with the blocking. Like, Charbonnet got the Walker blocking today. Like, he got hit in the backfield on every single time he touched the football. It was just incredible. 15 carry. He had 14 carries for

five yards at one point. I would like to acknowledge that you're right about what you're saying. And also, this is a very funny thing to say when the Seahawks beat the Steelers 31 to 17 and basically like made Aaron Rogers look obsolete today. Yeah, it was a good case. Is any part of you happy about this game. I don't agree with, I don't agree with what they made Aaron Rogers like obsolete. If you watched that game, Aaron Rogers did not play bad today. I think. Donald kind of played like shit.

Both Corvax through two teams. These are your two teams. I thought Donald played like ass and then they won by 14. What do you think, DK? I would say, Craig, you can go first. I think these teams were evenly matched today. And to be honest, Caleb Johnson lost the Steelers the game. I mean, it was a three-point game.

And there was a kickoff into this. There's a new rule at the kickoff. I don't blame him for screwing up. But honestly, I probably blame the Steelers for having a rookie return kicks. That's actually probably the issue. But he screwed up. The ball landed in the, what's it called? The hot zone.

Catch zone or whatever. It's like pickleball. It's like the kitchen. The kitchen, yeah. It's like from the 20 to the end zone. If the ball lands in there, it's live, he didn't realize that. It went into the end zone. The Seahawks recovered it.

It was a touchdown. It went from a three-point game to a 10-point game. And it was over after that. And I thought it was a very evenly matched game. It is a wild mistake where, the kickoff rules are so new that you actually would think that they would go over this.

It's kind of hard to believe you could not know that. This was one of those games. It's like the whole point of the rule. Where I feel like if these two teams played each other ten times, it'd be five and five. Like Craig, you mentioned it.

There was another play, I think in the fourth quarter where Aaron Rogers threw a ball into the end zone it got tipped up. It got tipped and picked it off. Like it was just bad. Like, obviously it was bad execution by the Steelers,

but it was a lucky pick. The guy was in the right place of the right time. But those two plays. The same guy, dropped a pick that Rogers put right in his face. Oh, God, yeah, he should did. Yeah, yeah.

I just think this game was a bit more evenly matched than I think the score suggests. This was really a one-score game going back and forth until the Caleb Johnson thing and then it kind of got off the rails there. But I don't think this theory was played that bad. What did you make of Darnold today, D.K., because I think Darnold did, well, they weren't all his fault, but like sometimes they were just like Cam Heyward unblocked at his face. I don't really understand what's happening there. But overall, like, what was the Darnold ride like today?

I mean, it was a roller coaster. He, this is like, I felt he was pretty close to, like, the Darnold. Arnold, we have known and loved for much of his career where it's like on one drive, he'll make a sick-ass throw down the field into tight coverage. And on the next play, he'll throw like a terrible pick. You know what I mean? He had two picks in this game. The first one was a really bad throw that Jalen Ramsey undercut to Cooper Cup and made a nice pick on it.

Ramsey had a, like, a good game. And that was a really incredible play. Huge hit on a larger Royal. And then the other one, there was a couple of plays. This happened actually. And now I'm kind of like, okay, now I see why the Seahawks may be a royal. a little gun-shy to run too much play action last week. There was like three or four plays

where they ran play action and got just fucking blown up in the backfield from like a really good pass rush by the Steelers. So that is always kind of the risk you run when you play, run play action is a lot of times you're booting the guy out naked or whatever and like just subject him to potential

big hits and that happened on the other pick. So yeah, I agree with Craig. I thought it was like a back and forth game, two teams that again I think pretty evenly matched. And the ball just bounced the Seahawks way a couple times. And that was kind of the difference in the game. So I wouldn't like react too much this game any certain direction.

I think it's obviously a really good win for the Seahawks though. Sam Darnold doesn't Sam Darnold feel like a Seahawks quarterback? Like it feels right. You know? He's perfect. It's the same old shit every year. It's the Kevin Clark like the Steelers or the Seahawks get don't play normal games or whatever. But Darnold doesn't have normal games either.

So they're kind of a perfect marriage. It's just funny because everyone was just so. happy to get rid of Gino Smith. Everyone is like way over, you know, that's rational or whatever. That's not true. Not everyone is happy, but there's a huge contingent of the Seahawks fan base that just really wanted to get rid of Gino Smith because of the backbreaking turnovers. And then we get fucking Sam Darnold to fix that problem. And he just makes two backbreaking, potentially backbreaking turnovers in this game.

Speaking of which of the Seahawks quarterbacks and stuff, I will say, I have to note, the Giants lost this game. The Cowboys won't know. With a walkoff field goal 40 to 37. So brutal. So I guess we'll wait. wait on that extension for Russell Wilson. I will say one last thing I want to say about the Seahawks game. Number one, Kenneth Walker looked fucking electric.

Number two, Jackson Smith and Jigba has raised the level of his game, I think. He looks incredible this year. He was playing all over the formation. He caught a deep pass on Jalen Ramsey late in the game that I believe set up a field goal for the Seahawks. I can't remember. And he just looks awesome. He just really, really looks like he's turned into a true number one receiver this year. Not that he wasn't last year, but, you know, I just think he's taking his game to a new level.

There's also a little bit of like the pass it to the Italians in Seattle. Yeah. Where it is kind of Jackson Smith and Jigba is the clear number one. Cup had a good game today. Seven catches 90 yards. And it is kind of just the two of them. I think in Jigba is like kind of a lock as a top 10 receiver for this year going forward. But it's just kind of the two of them.

And then everything else is like a few tight ends here. And there are Tori Horton caught a touchdown. But it seems like 50 to 60 percent of the targets every week are just going to go to those two. Yeah. So the Iron Become Death Oppenheimer Award for player who went nuclear. We mentioned Amon Raus St. Brown, who again had 115 yards and three touchdowns. And as of right now, he's the number one receiver. We mentioned Chase as well.

14 catches 165 yards. Malik neighbors, nine catches, 167 yards, two touchdowns. Neighbors. I mean, a crazy game. And you also mentioned Roman Dunes. He had 128 yards and two touchdowns. Didn't mention Wondell Robinson 140 yards in touch. It's hilarious.

But D.K., outside of those guys, which we talked about, anyone else for Oppenheimer today. We got a shout out. James Cook. I remember in the offseason, we were talking about how regression is going to catch up with James Cook and he's just not going to score a league leading whatever it was, 16 touchdowns this year. Maybe he will. He had 21 carries 132 yards and two touchdowns in this game. I think that's my new thing. Is any time a player scores a ridiculous amount of touchdowns and nothing changes about the team, I'm just going to assume they're going to do it again. I will say, Cook looks amazing. Some of the runs that he makes, he's like,

speed skating through the defense almost. Like the way he cuts and accelerates away from defenders, it's just incredible to watch. He's a very, very explosive, slippery runner. I don't think people think of him that way. To be honest, in the same way that we said, you know, Marvin Harrison Jr. probably wouldn't have been drafted where he was,

had his name been Bob Smith. I actually think James Cook is suffering from the opposite effect, where I think people think he's less good because he's Dalvin Cook's brother. And they almost think he got nepoed into the NFL. Right. But in reality, he's great. and if he had a different name, if his name was James Johnson.

So he's a Scarsguard brother where it's like, you're like, ah, he's Bill's Scars. Damn, he's actually pretty good. Yeah, like, I wish he was at Dalvin Cook's brother because on his own, he has earned his reputation as a great running back, I think. Do we ask the question? Is it actually is, how close are we to Dalvin just being James Cook's brother? It's, wow.

No, Dalvin has a good years. Dalvin was great. We need to see it for three more years from James Cook. I'm just saying, the long winding touchdown he had were that one of the Jeff players kind of caught his foot and then accidentally like redirected him into a completely different direction. Like, yeah, propelled him 270 degrees. And then he like was like, oh, this is all empty space.

And then he scored. That was pretty amazing. We don't have a category for this. But it's like the opposite of the Oppenheimer award. And I would like like, like we call it the floppenheimer. But you mentioned. We should do that. That's great.

Yeah, the floppenheimer. I would like to point out that the Ravens today scored 41 points at home against the Browns. you know is it going to be derrick henry's stat here uh you would think if you didn't watch the game you were out on getting lunch or or breakfast and you come home you like wow great i have derrick kenry and the raven scored 41 points at home they led the entire game he had 11 rushes for 23 yards and this is the weird derrick kennery experience he also fumbled again they recovered it but dude yeah um if an alien was watching football today for the first time and i said tell me

the worst running back in the n-fielker they keep hand in the all to. There's a chance the alien is like, get that guy off the field. He's so terrible. A hundred percent. Yeah. And I guess again, again, when Derek Henry gets hit before the first three yards or 12 feet of line of scrimmage, he looks like the dictator, the statue of Saddam Hussein being toppled. Like he just looks like the complete like falling in a square. He looks like they like handed it off to a tight end because all the running backs were hurt. Yeah. That's what he looks like sometimes. So he had 23 yards. He literally looks like he's been like lassoed at his legs.

like he's getting hog-tied. You know what I mean? Like a Red Dead Redemption. So, you know, you never know. It kind of can be brutal. Fantasy's so fun. I love fantasy. The one thing I want to say, though, about that Baltimore game was a couple of things,

I think after this slate were our thing. DeAndre Hopkins is a thing. DeAndre Hopkins, like the Ravens' offense though with Lamar and Derek Henry. And then, like, it's going to be so hard to not get Deandre Hopkins one-on-one with a cornerback of their choosing. And it's very clear that he's not going to be some eight-catche game guy. But DeAndre Hopkins, I think pretty clearly is still like an ST or jump ball receiver, like one-on-one in the end zone.

And I think that could be game-changing for Baltimore this year. He's like a relief pitcher or like a closer where you kind of just only need to have him run down the sideline into the end zone and take like four shots a game. And he's so good and savvy. He's like when a baseball team gets an incredible eighth inning setup guy. He doesn't have to be the closer. It doesn't have to be. But like, you know, it's Derek Henry.

You got Lamar. But Hopkins is, that's a great call like being a reliever. The other one thing I want to say about Derek Henry, though, just overall about the slate. the titan obviously Thursday night Tucker Kraft Zacherts went off there was so much fantasy entropy today though where it's like Juan Johnson had touchdown otherwise the tight end so far that have touchdowns

are like A.J. Barner, Luke Farrell, Brock Wright, Jeremy Ruckert, Davis, Allen. Like there were a lot of touchdowns today that were just fucking wasted into the ether. They were all either like your first or second round picket receiver or tight end. I feel like nobody else like necessarily even scored. It's so over. We're so back. We're so back.

Well, the Miami Dolphins today were... are drunk. We're oscillating back and forth between we're so back, it's so over. But I will say there was a moment where Tyreek Hill caught a 45-yard pass with his back to the end zone. It's like he was fielding a punt from Tua. And he caught it.

And it was the first 30-plus yard catch Tyreeks had in a year, literally 12 months. And we're back. Tyreek over 100 yards. Waddle caught a touchdown. Devon A-chan had almost. a crazy end of the game. Game winning touchdown. So brutally.

He played another great game. Tua was kind of not good. Had a terrible, terrible pick. And I think the dolphins are awful still, and yet they can kind of move the ball. Yeah. If we get this type of performance from the dolphins in the fantasy, like we'll be fine.

Yeah. But, man, the dolphins really blew this. Tua had a, I was like a fourth and eight or ten or something like that to late in the game. And he just took a sack to end the game. game. I'm like, dude, throw the fucking football. Dude, on that A-chan drive, where it would have been a touchdown, whatever, it was the play

before, I think it was third and ten, and he was rolling out. Nobody was open. He just ran out of bounds. And there was like 50 seconds left in the game. I'm like, I don't know. Maybe maybe do something. Also, just the interception that went right to the agent's was unbelievable. It was like that was that, I mean, at least Trevor Lawrence won that was right to a guy. There was a guy running his face. But I just to it, that pick was, one of them like old school James Winston, like I actually wonder if he doesn't know which color the jerseys are. Like is he colorblind or Lasik or something?

Do I get credit? Do I get to feel vindicated for sticking with Tyreek and Waddle in week two? Do I get that? Sure. I don't get to tell you how you feel. You don't have to go in a relief of validation. Do you feel vindicated? Well,

in a touchdown. Waddle 68 yards and a touchdown, Tyreek six for 109. I feel vindicated. Yeah. I do. You thought about that for a long time. What are you going to do next week? Well, unfortunately, if the Dolphins scored that game winning touchdown to A-chan,

I think I would have felt much more vindicated. But the fact that the game ended with such a fart, I feel less vindicated. I do think this offense will be able to do stuff like this, this season. I do feel that way. Two, it just needs to be better. Yeah, that was really bad. Well, Mike McDaniel also not long for this world, I think.

Debutanteau Award for the player maturing in front of our very eyes. Craig Oreo. would like to shout out once again my guy cam ward who they lost another tough game they've had a brutal stretch broncos and rams but cam ward is starting to do some things that look a little mohammseian i'm not even close to saying he's Patrick mahomes but he is doing first of all he kind of moves like mahomes he's kind of top heavy and he kind of tiptoes around and he does this weird like falling over underhands it to people but they're you know that's a scale on the on the good end of it's Patrick Mahomes.

And the bad end of the scale, it's Will Levis. And Cam Ward has not made any mistakes while doing these crazy things so far, which is impressive. He also had, I think, the best play of the day, the best throw of the day to a touchdown to Elic Ayaminoor, who I would also like to throw in the debutante category. He looks good.

Yeah, I just think these two guys are for real. And I think the two of them and Calvin Ridley, and I do think Cam Ward's really good. And I think he takes sacks and he holds onto the ball too long. He tries to play hero ball and stuff like that. but he makes a lot of incredible plays, and you can just tell he has a feel for the game that is rare. Yeah, I was excited about the performance overall.

Obviously, again, they played a really good Rams team. And this Rams team, I mean, offensively, just couldn't be stopped. And so they were playing from behind much of the game. But overall, like, you got to be encouraged, I think. Iommonore looks like pretty legit, especially for a fourth round rookie. he just was he played strong he had i'm trying to picture it he had like a really good moss catch where you like one handed it as he was going out of bounds um over and he had that

crazy touchdown i can't and the touchdown yeah that was a broken play where he got open too and that's the thing you're not supposed to do as a quarterback is you're not supposed to throw across the field he's rolling out to the right and he throws it across the field left an absolute nuke right on the money to iom and or in the end zone it is one of the better plays you'll see in a while i think talking about the rams Pooka Nakuwa went absolutely off today. Nakua had a 45-yard rushing touchdown. This guy is, he's just such a unique player.

Just the size, physicality, just brutal, brutal injuries every week and gets back out there, peels himself off the turf and keeps going. Yeah, yeah, 45-yard touchdown plus eight catches for 91 yards. Devante Adams had a big game. You called me with Devante where you're like, all the touchdowns are coming. Math Stafford tried everything humanly possible to get Devonty Adams a touchdown today. And it got it had a wait, but it's so clear that I think Devante is Stafford's guy in the end of the end of now. So I don't know.

This was kind of like, you know, a meaningless game, I guess, because we know the Titans aren't very good. But yeah, overall, like do I saw from Cam Ward. And I really like what I've seen from the Rams in terms of just passing it to the Italians. Worst play of the day. I think I'm going to give it to Caleb Johnson scaring up the kickoff, to be honest. Oh, yeah. That was tough. I mean, I do like legit.

that cost the Steelers the game. I don't know if they would have won, but they would have had a shot had that not happened. The Cowboys giving up the Giants touchdown at the end. I know the Cowboys won. I don't think it's worse than the Caleb Johnson thing. But it's kind of amazing that the Cowboys allowed those two touchdowns. Kind of hilarious, actually.

I know, Wondell getting behind the entire defense is pretty shocking. It's like, oh, my God, Russell Wilson threw a moonball. I know, seriously. What did they think was going to do? Is Wondale Robinson good? I think he's better. I was right. He was tough because he's a smaller player.

and he tours ACL, and I think that he's the epitome of a player that if you don't have that crazy agility at that size, it's kind of hard to win. He looks way better. I mean, the Cowboys game last year, I thought Wondale was, frankly, a huge liability. And this year, obviously,

I mean, this week, obviously he was, I mean, he had 140 yards to touchdowns. Like, Wandae was pretty great. So he looks like way better than, frankly, he probably looked the best he's looked as a giant because he seems like he knows the offense and is healthy again, which is great because it was a second round pick.

This is not the worst play of the game or the week, but Mark Andrews, caught a touchdown and then got it punched out. Yes. That combined with Henry fumbling again was like, I'm glad they won by 30 because the Ravens really needed that. That was crazy. People are frustrated to say the least with Mark Andrews who had one catch for two yards.

Yep. I, yeah. It's a problem. It's a problem. It was a good play. I mean, it was a very good play by the defender for sure. But man, just hold on to the fucking football. Last week, we burn Jalen Waddle, right?

Jalen Waddle's our week one burn book And then of course he went on the score touchdown Mark Andrews I would say is the front runner Oh easily No way You don't think so burn book week two He's had two catches and two games That's not good

I think it's fine Yeah D we'll decay it's Mark Dandrus All right well we don't hate him The only thing I want to throw out For worst play of the day is one offensive line And being flagged four times at one drive In a game they lost by three points Then he got benched

And he was fighting everybody in the sideline He was not ideal everybody. He was really? Oh, yeah. Malik Neighbors was like they were all in there. He was in a big scrum. He was like pissed yelling at people.

Yeah. Stadium Pulse of the week. Yeah. Again, if you don't know Stadium Pulse, it's the meter in college football, the new video game where like the field goals get harder, the bigger the moment is. So it's like an extra point is nothing if you're playing a team from the Mac.

But if you're trying to beat BAM at the, you know, in the SEC championship game, it's going a thousand miles an hour. Stadium Pulse of the week, we have to go to college football. I don't know if you guys saw this, but Notre Dame. was playing Texas A&M and Notre Dame scored the touchdown to go ahead by seven late in the game and they missed the holder dropped to perfect snap dropped it so they don't get the extra point

they go up six instead of seven and then they like Texas A name goes down and just scores a touchdown with zero seconds or like 13 seconds of the clock and Notre Dame loses so Notre Dame is 0 and two to start the season because this holder dropped up a ball with the game online. That's why they say you got to you got to let's like forcing people to you know to execute everything that is involved with a kick. It's actually kind of hard like the way that the the speed at which those snaps come out like it's amazing to me that holders don't miss the ball more often. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't seem like a easy catch necessarily. So doing that that job is always hard. I remember Pete Carroll used always say this like because the Seahawks won some incredible

games. There was a game there's a playoff game in the Pete Carroll era in Minnesota where it was like the coldest game ever. And I think it was a, I can't remember who did it. Jason Myers. No, it was a kicker that actually ended up coming to the Seahawks later. But anyway, he missed a chip shot field goal to win the game in the playoffs. And Pete Carroll at the time was just like, so I would make you do it. You got to execute the snap to hold the kick.

It's not that easy. Speaking of kickers, the Niners cut Jake Moody, who they took in the third round at the draft because he was terrible. They sign Eddie Pinheiro who comes in and misses his first film bowl. That was an extra point. If you needed logs. It's like 25 yards. If you needed logs.

Yeah, truly, truly a nightmare. Also, we should say sticking with the Niners. Mack Jones. Mac. 280 yards, three touchdowns, no picks. Played great. I mean, sure, I guess it was the Saints. But on the road, Mack Jones just came in, played good football.

And they won the game and looked solid. Like, now I think looks like. like one of the best backups in the league. And how many games in a row would Mac Jones have to win for the Niners until the Niners fans didn't want Brock Purdy to start when he came back? Because obviously if he went, well, I'm saying,

if Mac Jones went undefeated this season and won the Super Bowl, I don't think Brock Party would play next year. So the question is, how many games would he have to win? Maybe. I honestly, even if, I think if he went eight, no, people would still want Purdy.

Pretty went to a Super Bowl. All right, so maybe Super Bowl's, that to give the job back. I'm just, yeah, maybe. I think Matt Jones would need to get to the Super Bowl, I think. I think you have to win a party. Yeah, he might even have to win the Super Bowl. He looked good.

Myers fans are losing it. No, yeah, I mean, look, it's, yeah, Kyle Shannon made a bad quarterback into a really good quarterback, shocking. The Arthur Smith, Sean Hockey Award for Coach a ref to piss you off today. Any other, any coaches of rest to piss you off, DK? I'm trying to remember. I don't, I don't, nothing comes to mind. Craig?

The Jags, you know, there was some, I don't know if you guys, DK if you watched a lot of that game, but there was a lot of jawing going on between Trevor Lawrence and Liam Cohen. There was some, there's a little bit of, it's a little bit of Brian Thomas, body language stuff going on, some throws going over Brian Thomas' head.

He's kind of walking off the field with his head down or shaking his head. And there was a play late in the game where the Jags are down three. It's fourth and five, and they're in the red zone. And they go for it and they don't get it. And they're down three.

And Jake Browning is on the other side. He's already thrown three picks. They could have kicked the field goal, tied the game, with like under two minutes to play or something. And they go for it. And it was some terrible slant to Brian Thomas. It didn't work.

And I thought it was a very bizarre choice for how good the Jags defense was playing against Jake Browning and how many mistakes he was made. I think the logic's they want to make Jake Browning go 95 yards. I guess. But the Jags looks sloppy. Yeah, again. It's fourth and five.

I mean, if it was four than two, I'd understand. But I don't know. Brian Thomas has, he had 12 targets. It's four catches, 49 yards, which kind of like builds on what we saw last week. Last week he had one catch for a touchdown. That was it. He had one run.

It wasn't even a catch. Yeah. Didn't he like, it was like an end around or something. So yeah, that connection, they need to figure that out. The one positive,

I would say from this game, ETN looked good again. And then Byshal Tutin scored a touchdown where he broke a tackle and squirted out and looked really explosive. So I mean, they're running out. What was that? Squirted it out.

Yeah. He ejaculated through the line. if you will. No, I think he looked pretty good. I do think he looked good. I think Tutin's going to be a thing. Yeah, same. He might be more of a thing than Travis Hunter,

who had three catches for 22 yards, and I continue to just kind of think that he's like, this doesn't age well, but I meant to bring this up on the Friday show. I saw somebody tweet this. It was like somebody called Travis Hunter expensive Wondell Robinson. Yes.

Wondell Robinson had a great game today. Except unfortunately, Travis Hunter is a long way from having as many yards in his career as Wondale did today. Yeah. They're just like throw out of these little... Should we start doing

who had more fantasy points this week, Wondell Robinson or Travis Hunter and see how many weeks Wondale wins? Well, Kyle Pitts hasn't played yet Sunday Night Football, so maybe we have to just

for right now. Expensive. Two receivers who outscored Travis Hunter to lie. Second overall pick on Wondale Robinson. Oh, man. Three catches 22 yards for Travis Hunter.

Yeah, I think he only played like 60% the offensive snap. So. And Jamar Chase had 16 catches. So I don't know. Lucille Bluth, I don't understand the stat line.

I won't respond to it. You know, Travis Hunter, just being Wondell Robinson, that's pretty good. But were there any others? Honestly, Wondell Robinson,

202 catches and a touchdown. There was a lot of weird rush to yards. I mean, Derek Henry, Zach Sharbonne, completely shitting the bed, getting hit behind the line every freaking time.

God, that was so brutal. Also, can we mention real quick, Quintan Jutkins came in and played and started for the Browns Day. So we were obviously, I want to say, I'm sorry, I was very wrong on that. I thought that they would at least take a few weeks to get him up to speed. It's like he signed a few days ago and then now he's like starting for them.

I actually thought he looked pretty good. Yeah, he looked good. He broke some tackles. Do you think practice is overrated? Do you think that maybe guys shouldn't practice at all? For running back, it's probably overrated. Yeah. There you go.

So I was wrong. I just wanted to admit that. But I expected it would take a while for him to go on the field. As a non-player, I feel comfortable saying practice is overrated. There you go. Talk about practice? Burn book. Mark Andrews.

I think so. What the fuck? He should have had a touchdown. Grant Don't Pitt made a great play. He dropped the ball. What are we talking about? It was a forced. If the Ravens actually, John Harbor came really close to challenging that play.

And I kind of wonder if they would have won. Because he had possession for like a 0.1 nanoseconds. Because it's kind of like. Yeah, it's kind of like at what point can you knock the ball out that it's a catch? Basically, if it were in the field of play, would have been an incomplete sure of force fumble. And it's, I don't know. In the end zone, it's different. I don't really know.

But yeah, yeah. Mark Andrews has seven receiving yards in two games. And once again, if you were out to lunch with your buddies today and you came back and you thought to yourself, I'm going to start Mark Andrews again. I'm going to stick with him. It was a bad week one. You check the box score. Oh, my God. The Raven scored 41.

And Lamar Jackson threw four touchdowns. one catch for two yards. People aren't, I'm telling, they're not starting him next week. I'm not starting him next week. He's dead. DeAndre Hopkins, two catches, 64 yards and a touchdown. Tess Walker.

Tess Walker had two touchdowns. I think it is going to be very tough for people who have Mark Andrews to play him next week, especially because there are a lot of tight ends on the waiver wire. Like we should say, Joanne Johnson had a sick touchdown today.

Yeah. And I think Joanne Johnson is good. I just think he's, his number is gross and his name is not sexy and he's on the Saints. But I think Joanne Johnson is good at football. And there are a lot of Kyle Pitts. I think people are going to start over Mark Andrews next week.

The passion in your voice makes me one of makes me thinking has to be Mark Andrews. I'm willing to hear some other. No, I agree with Craig Fully. I didn't want to be the one to like do it just because I feel like I'm beating a dead horse at this point. But yeah. If you have any other suggestions, I'm open. No. I think Mark Andrews is like Harold Fanon had another decent game today.

It's like you're starting. Harold Fanon over Mark Andrews. I don't know. You can start in Joku and Fanon over Andrews right now. Yeah. It's tough. It's tough out there.

You know who else had a good game? Jake Ferguson, nine catches, 78 yards. There's like, yeah, you have better options out there at this point. Okay. Fine. All right, fine. We'll burn Mark Andrews. There you go.

You guys happy? We're so back. We've burned Jalen Wattle and Mark Andrews. Yeah, we are back. We're back in form. Yeah. Maybe that should be a tattoo. All the people in the burn book the year before,

you probably shouldn't draft them. You probably should put it like that. It's probably a good idea when you say it. Okay. I think that's all we have for right now. Thank you, DK.

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nice i saw the sign yeah we should have seen the sign mark andrews week one that was the sign well it's tough because isaiah likely is like not playing and so it's brutal that mark and he's like coming back this week i think or next week it's pretty brutal i'm uh Well, this is kind of in reverse.

This is out of order when we're taping these because the top of the show is going to be just the two of you. But you'll be taping after we're speaking right now, but it'll run before. So I'm very curious how the Chief's Eagles game goes. And Sunday Night Football, I will look forward to listening to you too. I'll be watching on my phone. Yeah, we need a report on the Emmys as well. Yeah. I implored you to wear your tuxedo on this show.

And you did not do that. So I'm a little upset. No. I'm not wearing it. I'm also wearing a suit, but I'm about to change into it right now. Yeah. I'll let you guys know.

Have fun. Thanks. So, yeah, we'll get an Emmy's debrief from you on Monday. Is that fair? Yeah, because we will be taping Monday night after, probably not after both games,

probably in the middle of the second game. We still need to decide that. I might personally refuse to record after the end of readers. I think that's actually totally fair. I'm actually going to refuse as a father. We're not doing it. Couldn't handle the East Coast. You couldn't handle it on the West Coast. That's not why I live on the West Coast.

Yeah, it is. It's because I don't want to stay up late. Have you received more emails after your rant? What have the emails been like after your rant? Mostly supportive. Yeah. I wish the Bachelor Party, pal. Yeah, was that fun? I feel like the listeners are now, well, I think the listeners are now, you know, involved

since they heard 12 men barge into the house while you were reporting. You guys really want to know? Did a good time? Now I'm a little nervous. I don't know. It's a great time. Okay. That's good.

Is in someone's one of the guys who's on the trip, his family has like a lake house. Actually, they have two like, his dad and his brother has like two lake houses next to each other. It's amazing. And so we were able to go out and just it was really fun. It was really cool. And it was an awesome time. And then my friend Mike, and I want to shout out my friend Mike, because if you have kids, maybe pause. I'll give you five, four, three, two, one to pause.

If my friend Mike is listening, fuck you. You're awful. He's the bachelor. He's the one getting married. He's one of my best friends since like fourth grade. And he thought it'd be funny to do like an Olympics thing and not tell us what the events were. Now, if you hear an Olympic style event at a bachelor party, you think like beer, you think like drinking. Sure.

Right. We got in a van and went to a local like based like a park. And we did athletic events. Like you went and exercised. So he put me and my friend Jackson pitted us against each other in a 100 meter dash. 100 meters, wow. And I won.

Would you run? What'd you run that in? We both got, no, I don't care about the time. We both got hurt. He went down like a sack of bricks, 20 yards in and had dual quads like quad cramping. I turned to look at him.

And I'm like, I'm going to smoke this mother. As soon as he was, I turn to watch him my hamstring pops. And I pull him in the room. No. Like something about being full speed and then turning to watch him crumple like a sack of potatoes.

I then pop my hamstring watching him. Was that before after you crossed the finish line? Oh, I want you know. I fucking won. He collapsed literally to the ground. And I then, but I limped over the line.

I limped over the line. And people, everyone thought I pulled up. So I kind of just kept it to myself for like an hour. And then I was like just Googling. Did you guys see that by the way today? Yes. That was the worst play that I never seen someone so scared the shit out of me. Yeah, he's like, oh no, I'm hurt. And he's like, just kidding. And I'm like, dude, that's tempting the football.

Also, Jared Gawfer sure thought he was hurt. Yeah. Yeah. He was like, I'm like, that's the most like tempting faith thing I've ever seen. But yeah, so I pulled my hamstring on a fucking bachelor party. Because I dare go full speed at 30 years old. But I just don't do it. Yeah. And I, you know, but it's like we just showed up. And I'm, and he was like, we're doing it. I'm like, oh, it's his bachelor party. Fuck it. I'll do it. Is you stretch? What was the pregame more about? I tried to stretch, but it was like 10 minutes of stretching. I'm like, what was the last time?

Look, there are runners and there are not runners. If you're not a runner, what was the last time you really went in a full sprint? Dude, I can't remember the full sprint for like sustained. I don't remember the last time I fully sprinted. I play basketball weekly, so I guess that's sprinting.

So I play, yeah, I play tennis, I play basketball. Even basketball, I feel like I have never reached even in a basketball game, my 100th percentiles.

Not even saying that's fast. And thank God. because someone would die. I would probably kill someone. But, yeah. So how hurt is the hamstring? How do you feel today? I think it's going to be like a month, man.

I don't know. Really? I don't know. It's the hamstring. I think it's the lowest grade there is. Like cold pork. It's like, yeah, it is. No, it's like Defcon where it's the high sounds low.

I think it's like the lowest grade. Defcon five. Are you, do you jog? Do you run? Like, are you going to be able to do that or no? No. I lift, which is certainly on pause for weeks. What do you mean?

What about your upper body? Well, yeah, I mean, I think you can do curls. Curls for the girls. Upper body stuff. I think my leg presses are probably on pause for the foreseeable future. Wow. Did anyone else get injured? My shoes sucks.

Oh, just me. Well, my friend Jackson, I mean, he, you know, he tumbled. But no. A lot of the other guys are runners, but no, it's not fun. That's so funny. And yeah, and you know what? You feel dumb because I want to be mad at Mike, but I'm mad at me because, like, why did I do that?

But I kind of decided in the moment. I'm like, all right, well, what if I can just run 100 meters as fast as I can and it's fine. Let's just find out. And I found it really quickly. Is there a video of this? Believe it or not, no. Which is a stunning oversight by everyone else there.

But I wasn't going to remind them. I also told everyone I was like, I'm going to get injured doing this. I actually was like, yeah. The odds were always very strong. Humans sprint very rarely. You're right. Like a true, like as fast as you possibly can run. I'm like even on a tennis court

I'm like you don't really get to full speed There's not a space to get to full speed Like you burst like even in a basketball thing Like how often are you really like like the DK Metcalf You know chasing down Buda Baker in the game Like that you know like an actual like mose from the office Running as fast as you can And like as soon as I got to like my whatever the fastest I can go is

And I turned like a millimeter my body's like done I very genuinely do not want to know what it would look like if I tried to run right now. Like, it's better not knowing that feeling. Yeah, I agree. Ken confirms better not knowing. Yeah. I thought this would be a funnier story.

You just feel bad for me, which is worse. No, I don't. I think it's really funny. Just the thunder and clopping for my fits. I like that you, like, you trying to do like the most 1% athletic move possible, which is just turn around while running and you do you pull your head. I was sprinting.

Right. But yeah. Yeah. would you have beaten him? Were you faster than him, you think? I was. But also, like, I, I just should, you know what? Who cares?

Did someone win me? I wish I'd just been a dick. But isn't it kind of a dick move to the guy who's, like, his bachelor party? And he's like, I want to do this. And you're like, no, I won't run 100 yards. Who won? Who won gold? Or how did you do it? No, we were the only ones who did 100. Other guys did, like, some people got to throw a fucking frisbee.

That was just the one he just signed people shit. Discus? Someone was like, yeah. I was like, it's unbelievable. So I was, yeah. We got hurt and everyone else is like, yeah, let's just stop. So he didn't finish. Were you all sober or did you guys drink before?

No, sober is the worst part. Damn, that sucks. And then they did a home run derby and I'm walking. That was fun. I go to a park and they just were just cranking homers. And I was just like, fuck, I wish we got baseball bat. We did a home run derby at my bachelor party and I like pulled, like I threw out my back. Swimming and So hard.

Carlos just pointed out, by the way, that we do have a video of me running. I forgot about that. We, on the treadbills, we ran at the Super Bowl. That was a little scary, I will say. Well, treadmill is scary. I don't have the- treadbills you could just like topple very easily. Foot eye coordination to be like,

oh yeah, I'll just run on a treadmill really fast. It's like really loud and vibrating and stuff. Weren't you wearing like jeans? Yeah, I was wearing jeans and like slip on shoes. God. I didn't bring workout clothes. That was like a holiday in. Where were we?

No, in New Orleans. It's a Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah. All right. So, Craig, you'll give us the report from the Emmys tomorrow. We'll do after. Yeah, I'll let you know if I win.

I'm just kidding. I'm not nominated for anything, obviously. Two Monday, you'll tell us the whole spiel and why you're there and everything. We have the two Monday night football games. We'll go through waivers and all the waivers and people you've got to add to replace Mark Andrews. And then, yeah, anyone can help me with my hamstring. Email us at ringer fancy football at gmail.com. That'd be great.

Other Bachelor Party injuries. I'll take Bachelor Party injuries. I'll take really hamstring recovery. would be great. Thank you. All right. Ice it, elevate it. I don't know what you need to do. So thanks for nothing. I'm going to go back in time.

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