The Ringer NFL Show - Week 3 Awards

Episode Date: September 27, 2021

We recap Week 3 by giving out awards, including Winner of the Week, The Panic Button, Weird Flex but OK, The Player You Won’t Acknowledge Is Good, and more. Later we induct the next player into the 2021 Fantasy Burn Book and recap our red-hot day of prop bets. FUNDRAISER LINK: We encourage you to make a donation of any size to the family of Mike “Tags” Tagliere, the lead NFL writer at Fantasy Pros who tragically passed away last week from COVID-19 complications. He was 39. Mike is survived by his wife, Tabbie, and his two children. The donation link is here. Email us at [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck and Mike Wargon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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On the internet. Week 3 is on the internet. D.K. Yo. Who is your winner for week three? So Josh Allen for the bills. It turns out that regression thing maybe just wasn't actually a thing. The bills, to me, look like.

like a freaking buzzsaw again, which is kind of what I expected at the beginning of the year. Took him a little while to get things going. Alan looked a little, you know, hit or miss. I was never going to say he looked like the old Josh, Josh Allen, because like the old Josh Allen was wildly, wildly inconsistent and, you know, just made these insane decisions and everything here and there. I think Josh Allen, like the Josh Allen we saw last year is what we saw today. Five total touchdowns.

He was 32 of 48, 358 yards passing four touchdowns through the air, another rushing touchdown for 37 fantasy points, the overall QB1 on the day, on the weekend, I should say. The thing I was just thinking when I was watching Josh Allen is the whole John Wick thing. Like, yeah, I'm thinking I'm back. Like, this was like a statement thing for him. Plus, like, when you add in what they did last week to the Dolphins, like, this team looks just incredible right now. They have outscored the last two teams they've played.

And two pretty solid defenses in Miami and Washington, 78 to 21. the bills are a buzzsaw. Josh Allen is looking great. There's a lot of fantasy opportunity in here, whether you're talking about Stefan Diggs, Manuel Sanders, Cole Beasley, Zach Moss is coming on,

Dawson Knox had a good game. And then also, you know, there's like still Devin Singletary, Gabe Dave, so I don't know, it's just good for fantasy. It's fun to watch.

And Josh Allen's back. And the Steelers are the only team to really limit him and beat them, so the Steelers are even more back. This is actually a huge win. Bigger winner is the Steelers. Is that going to go down is the weirdest game

of the entire season is when the Steelers beat the bills in week one. I don't think it was the weirdest game of week one. Week one was just bizarre. None of it made any sense. But yeah, I think this is starting to, we're starting to see who the real teams are a little bit more now. I think to the Josh Allen point,

you remember like a couple years ago when Josh Allen sucked and he was like the best Red Zone quarterback, like the channel Red Zone because Andrews Siciliano or Scott Hanson, whoever your guys cuts in and is like, you'll never believe what Josh Allen just did. And you're like, this could be a 50-yard touchdown. It could be a pick six.

He could have made a tackle. I leaped over. I have no idea. Today, it was just touchdowns. Like, there was no bad plays. It was just Josh Allen did something incredible over and over and over and over again. He had like 20% of the total red zone time. Yeah, I feel like week three is when the guy, like if you have a player who is supposed to be really good,

usually they only have two bad weeks in a row. I feel like in fantasy. Usually week three is when the bi-low guys are no longer bi-low guys. And like it actually comes back to normal. and that's exactly what happened here with Josh. Joshy, big winner. Craig, who's your winner of the week? Herbert, two and one against the Chiefs,

one and one versus Mahomes. I was trying to think, is there anybody who has a better record than one and one versus Mahomes? Does anyone have a positive record against Mahomes? It's just Tom Brady. Have they only played once? No, they've played a surprising amount of times

because they played in the championship game. They've been in the regular season, I think. And Brady's, he's won over 50% of the time? Yes, for sure. Oh, all right. But that's it. I mean, it's good company. Yeah, Herbert was the quarterback to today at 280 yards, four touchdowns,

and he was just on it. Like, every throw was perfect. The fact that these two are going to be competing in the same division for the next, like, decade. I mean, what are the odds that, like, the next best generational quarterback after Mahomes got drafted into the AFC West? You kept a generational quarterback. Herbert's like 23 and Mahomes is like 26.

That's not a generation. They're the same generation. That's the same high school. I don't mean a new generation. I'm saying that, like, he's also. He's the quarterback of the generation. Subsequent generational quarterback after Mahomes. Yes.

Like, what are the odds that the next great guy in that little era of, like, age is in the AFC West with him? That sucks for Mahomes. It's actually great for Mahomes. It's great for Moines. It's great for Mhombs. Who cares about them? It's great for us.

Did you see that clip of Mahomes on the golf course like last year? And someone's like, look out for Herbert. And he's like, yeah, he actually said, I'll see it when I believe it. He meant the other way. Right. But he talks shit about Herbert. And then somebody asked him about it after the game today. and he's like, I guess I believe it.

I guess I've seen it. I guess I've seen it. Credit to Mahomes for admitting that, I guess. I'll believe it when I see it is, I mean, that's, I mean, there's, that's like religion. That's the, you know, that's not like a wrong. It's just, you know, it's different. Herbert has the second most passing yards and his first 17 starts behind only Mahomes. I really think Herbert is just going to be like tops, like top three quarterback for the next 10 years.

He, the throws he makes are absolutely ludicrous. Like, he made a couple, like, insane, you know, first percentile or 99th percentile, however you want to talk about it. Like insane, insane throw last week. This week, it's just, man, I don't know how he does it, but he uncorks these B-lines down the fields, like deep outs where it's like only two quarterbacks can make that throw in the NFL, you know what I mean? So, yeah, he's just so, so impressive. And the other thing that's really impressive that I've just, like, thought,

of like when watching him over the first couple of years is just how he reacts to pressure. He just never seems to panic that much. And he can get himself out of, it's like Mahomesian in a way that what he can get himself out of and still make plays because he has the arm torque to make these throws that no other, like watching Jimmy G for instance, just in this last game, it's like there's such a difference with what he can do under pressure and on the move and things like that. It's like you just really, really appreciate the way he could just like freaking uncork those passes. So yeah, he's great.

man, your guy Mike Williams. We'll talk about him later, but this is just good for fantasy. This is good for football in general. All right. My winner of the week, it's Justin Tucker, man. I mean, all those we'll call him exuberant people

who reach in drafts for Justin Tucker. This is why you do it. 66-yard walk-off game winner, longest kick in NFL history, again, because didn't he already have the record at one point? It got surpassed, like 17. Can you say that again?

This is the longest kick. in NFL history. It made a game, yeah. I'm just saying, that's just crazy. Like, I, like,

like, first of all, Justin Tucker has been trying to, like, set that record for a while. The fact that he got the opportunity in a walk-off fashion is kind of insane

that he actually got to do it. And not like in the, like, at the end of the half or something, yeah. Yeah, or not like it to blow out. Like,

it was actually to win a game. Also, it doinked off the cross bar. And then the manner, it was like, a movie. It like doinked up and went up. You couldn't tell because of the perspective from the shot, it was like behind the, you know, behind the field goal or whatever. So you could not tell which way it was bouncing until it hit the net. And I was like, oh my God, because I first saw it,

I thought it bounced like 50 yards back towards them. And I was like, you missed it. And then you could just see it hit the net. So it's like, oh my God. So that was, yeah, that was traumatic. It was awesome. And kicks that hit the bottom crossbar, I feel like 90% of the time, it goes the wrong way. Like, it's got to be really specific to. Hit it and go forward. Yeah. It's unbelievable. And he added the crow hop right before,

which Roger Sherman figured out immediately because he did the 65-yard-older in warm-ups and it wasn't enough. So he just added like a step. Yeah, I noticed that when he was like getting ready. Because the time was sort of like ticking down, too. They almost had to hurry it felt like. And he backed up a couple extra steps. So I was like, oh, he's really going to put his leg into this one.

And he needed it too. He needed every little freaking centimeter of that oomph because, like you said, Craig, I think 99% of the time is just going to bounce back, break it off. All right. Those are the winners. D.K., who's the biggest

loser of the week? All right. So unfortunately, it's going to be Justin Fields for the Bears because that was... So we're the biggest losers of the week for plugging him.

Atrocious, atrocious performance. Not all his fault. Craig, what do you got to say? I got to break in here. So I wanted you to try... I wanted you to explain this to me

because this was the game I saw the least of today. And so when I checked the stat line after I was like literally what the hell happened. I know he got sacked a bunch, but like, explain this to me as if I didn't even watch the game.

So, Okay, number one, I think that the blame can be dispersed among both fields who did play terribly. I have to put some blame on him for the performance, but also Matt Nagy, who I think designed a really terrible game plan, especially for a team like the Browns, who they're facing with a very good pass rush, two very good defensive ends that are going to get after him every play. They did four design rollouts on 30 dropbacks. I saw that per PFF, just four. So in other words, this really athletic guy who runs a 4-4, they didn't get him out,

outside the pocket at all. They were just basically asking him to drop back and pass, like consistently. They didn't get him into a designed run game, hardly at all. He only had three rushes, and I think two of those were scrambles. So for God knows why, they didn't want to use him as a runner. They didn't want to get him outside the pocket. They basically just wanted him to drop back and pass like he was a five-year veteran, like he was freaking Andy Dalton or something. It just didn't make any sense to me. Why they would do that in a guy's first start, when these types of things, rollouts, bootlegs, you know, you using the read option. Things that we saw like Jalen Hertz doing last year and beginning this year to kind of get him

into a rhythm, get his confidence going, get his like, you know, just, it's like doing a layup or whatever. It just gets you going. It gets you in the feel of the game. He never once got into a rhythm in this game. It was almost always, like, every drive was like in completion, stuffed run, third and nine. And then they had to drop back on third nine. And he got sacked nine times.

It was just really, really bad. It was a terrible performance by Fields. It was a terrible, terrible game plan. Nothing was working. And crucially, and this is all on this, like, I thought he was going to have a good day for fantasy. And I said this before, like, he could be a bad passer in this game, still have a good day in fantasy. And that's what I was banking on because he was such a good runner. They didn't run him for whatever reason.

They just didn't want him to be that. They didn't want that part of the game to be, that part of his talent or that part of his skill set to be part of the game. I have no idea why. So bottom line. Yeah, I'm sorry for recommending Justin Fields on this one because I thought he was going to have at least that rushing floor. I think any good coach would have given him that rushing floor would have given his offense the ability to just make it harder on the defense. Put some stress on those passersers who are pinning their ears back like every time and getting after him. So I don't know, it was just a failure all the way around.

You know, they ended up with he ended up with 68 yards passing. I think their net passing was like 10 or something ridiculous. No, no, it was not 10. It was one. He had 68 yards and lost 67 in sacks. He did not have passing yards. He had passing yard singular. To me, that's like, this is coaching malpractice.

I understand that some of it is on the quarterback, but like, if this isn't working, you got to figure out something. You have to adapt throughout the game. So I don't know. This was just terrible. Craig's question of like what happened, Justinfield sucked. But Matt and Aggie drove a Ferrari like it was a minivan. Yeah, exactly.

And it's everyone's fault. you know, there's this Joe Banner who is who kind of who was the president of the Eagles for a while told me about this thing like he calls it like a self-fulfilling prophecy which is that when coaches get a rookie quarterback

they think well we got to support the rookie because they're not ready so we got to run on first down we got to establish the run but then if that like doesn't work the rookies in second and nine and third and nine and that was to a T what happened today

was like the The fear of taking off the training wheels meant you were trying to drive the training wheels. Yeah. I would say, so for some context, and this is actually something that makes what Justin Herbert has done infinitely more impressive. All the rookie quarterbacks were just dog shit today. And frankly, like, they've been really bad all season. Like, Mac Jones threw three picks. Zach Wilson couldn't get anything done.

I think he had, like, 150 yards and two interceptions. The Jets offense is the matter. Well, to be clear, Fields had four fantasy points, but the worst starter today was Zach Wilson, who had two and a half. Right. So Wilson, who was the second pick, was worse. I mean, he's in, arguably he's in a worse situation. But I don't know. Like, I'm starting to think like Nagy is maybe the worst play caller in the NFL because that was just terrible. Can we consider this for a moment, though? Trey Lance, who barely played for the Niners and Sunday football, had six, who had touchdown for a yard. So he had six point one fantasy points. More than Justin Fields and Zach Wilson. combined who started. That's rough. And then Trevor Lawrence, who also started, had like seven

and a half. Yeah, he had Lawrence had two picks. And he's just, I mean, like, he's on a historically bad start with like picks. I mean, he he's flashed. Some of the throws he makes are like, wow. But man, all these rookies are just looking really, really

tough so far. I mean, Mac Jones, he's, I think Mac Jones has probably looked the best, but even he had three fix today. And so I think it just puts it back. into perspective and it gives us like sort of that gut check this is what we probably should expect from rookie quarterbacks some of the rookie quarterbacks that we've seen over the last few years have really sort of like changed the perception that oh yeah it's actually easy to come in and play at a high level in the NFL it's like no these guys are having to adjust to the speed they're

having to like really difficult like complex offenses all that stuff defenses are really good they're getting teed up on and in a lot of cases with most of these guys they're coming into and playing on bad teams. So, yeah, I don't know. I think it's just a gut check. And I still think, frankly, that Fields has good potential if he can continue to be the starter. If they design an offense that actually fits his skill set,

however, I'm now very discouraged because I think, number one, he's probably not going to continue to be the starter. I think they're going to go back to Dalton as soon as he's healthy because Nat Nagy's a donkey and this is what the bears are going to do. But, you know, at the end of the day, like this is obviously very disappointing. And again, I'm sorry for recommending Fields. week because, and I started them in several leagues too, so it's just a big bummer all around.

That reminds me. How did you do in your 22 leagues? Some win, some losses. I didn't actually tally them up. Wasn't a great week. There's a lot, there was a lot of weird scores. I had like a lot of receivers just didn't do jack shit today. I'm going to check in tomorrow. I want you to do an action. I want to know how you did out of 22. Yeah. I'm going to probably drag my feet on that, but I would say it's probably around 500. Okay. Craig, who should lose to the week? it's the Niners running back because it's more of an abstract loser

you know we recommended that people start Trace Sermon and it paid off because he got an easy touchdown but he had we were bailed out we were bailed out he had 10 carries because Kyle Eusecheck was the running back today sermon had 10 carries for 31 yards

Hughes Check was used all over the field he was like running slants he had 37 yards receiving in a touchdown I don't know what the hell to do with the Niners running backs now next week there's going to be Sermin Elijah Mitchell will probably be back. Use check is probably just better than all of them.

No, no. This is a toxic relationship we have with the 49ers. Like this is a, like if you actually just separate ourselves with the excuses that we make now, like no, no, no, like it's okay. Like, just explaining this, this is insane. It really is. I don't know what to do. I think my recommendation is

if you like chaos, if you want to live a little bit, start a Niners running back. But if you maybe want to win your match up, if you're an adrenaline junkie. No, no. Do you remember, what is it, how I met your mother, where Barney has like the crazy hot scale. And it's like you can get away with being this crazy if you're this hot. The Niners situation is not hot enough for how crazy it is.

It hasn't paid off this year. Like it should have. We're breaking up. Dude, breaking up with the Niners. We thought we, I feel like we had in our mind a lot of scenarios that could happen to it's like, oh, it's going to be hilarious if it's Carry on Johnson who ends up leading. I don't know if anyone thought it'd be freaking Kyle Eustech that would like ruin the day. carries for Kyle Eustache.

Of course it was Kyle Yushcheck that was taking all the passing down snaps and all the long down and distance and all the short, like all the red zone area. And you know what? Come on. You look good. Well also, the other thing is unless Trey Sermann was not like

healthy from the concussion, which I don't, I don't think that was the case as much as I think that this was proof that Kyle Shannon does not trust Trey Sermon. Oh, absolutely. Because basically when he was, Kyle Shannon was literally like the west of his running backs who've been on the team for more than

like a calendar week, we're all like eliminated from playing in this game. He's like, fuck it. Kyle's eustache's the goal. I can't give it. Yeah, this is a great point, Hifitz, absolutely. Because the situations that you saw use check, again, like the red zone, deep red zone, passing down, or like deep, long down a distance. So like passing down.

So he's in control of, you know, he has to pass block. He has to do all this stuff that's actually a lot more complicated. He has to read the defense. Like all this complicated stuff that you'd expect from a, uh, veteran running back, he just didn't want to put any of that on servant. He was like, no, you're not actually going to get any of those situations. So it definitely hurts his bottom line a lot. Kyle Eusecheck is first team all dad's favorite player. Like if you have players that dads love, Kyle Eusecheck easily in the first five players. People miss the bygone era of fullbacks being a thing.

Oh, my dad is a huge diner fan who's texting me like, use, love use check. Yeah, because, you know, back in the 70s, I were in love with the fullbacks going on swing routes. That's how, you know, our parents grew up. Fullback. Just Mike Allstead. I just want, I really want to bring back. Michael Stott was doing. Yeah. 40 yard swing rounds. All right. My loser the week, it's Marquis Brown. He dropped three. God damn it. Was it actually

three? Like, he dropped three. One was tipped. Three, to be clear, one was tipped and like, it maybe could have caught it. The other two were egregious. The other two were, were they back to back or two at a three plays? Very close. It looked like he was trying to like clap the ball.

into his hands. Like, dude, your farm is awful, figured out. It was, like, egregious. Yeah, it was bad.

He's in his head. Because they were, like, walking touchdowns. And, like, the, gave, it ended up giving us

in a roundabout way the Justin Tucker game winner field goal, so, like, we can all forget it for now, but like,

oh my God, he had three catches for 50 yards and really should have five for 140 and two touchdowns. Like, this is what I get for starting him.

This is definitely what I get. I deserve this. Mark, it's infuriating. Let's get to panic button. Various stars who sucked. Yeah, so we're just going to like... We're going to do this a little different

than we have in the last couple of weeks. So we're going to actually list off some of the, like top tier guys. I would say top tier, expected to be superstars and fantasy, what they've done and what they did this week and then whether we're panicked and which ones were panicked about,

rather. So you want to just list off a few of them, high hits? Yeah, we're going to go through and you guys, we get to hit the panic button on some of these guys. okay yeah all right

DeAndre Hopkins did not have a good day but sprained ankle three catches 20 years he had rid didn't he have a rib injury yeah it was ribs sorry rib injury we're not gonna no one's panic putting on Hopkins right okay not yet

I would say his target rate is a little he averaged 10 targets a game last year he's averaging six a game this year yeah not the little concerning button correct I'm not hitting the panic button I'm not sitting him down next week, if that's your asking. Tyree Kill had five for 50s, five catches, 56 yards, and he would panic button after 14 yards

last week. Week one, he had 30 points. And week two, we had four, week three, had seven. Like, I know we all know he's boom bust, but he's been a little too boom busts for my liking in the first three weeks. No, I'm not hitting the panic button, but I, it's not great. I think, is, is this a situation? I haven't watched the game again yet, clearly, but do you think this is a situation where

someone's going to start talking about a blueprint for beating the chiefs? like just double teaming Tyree Kill constantly or something? I feel like that's been tried before. No, no, that's not. This doesn't seem like something every defense can do it. The blueprint is simple.

It's get Justin Herbert and Hope Patrick Monaster's two interceptions, one of which was no look. Like, no. Yeah, ultimately, that's like why I'm not hitting the panic button is because like how many defenses could actually do that. So yeah, no, let's panic button. Jonathan Taylor.

I'm kind of hit, I'm not hitting the panic button on Taylor. I would say maybe there's a little of a gray area here. I would say if you're expecting Jonathan Taylor to be like a top three guy, that's where I'm hitting the panic button because I don't think this is going to happen. It doesn't seem to be happening. But he's not top three. I mean, he has, sorry, he had week one. He had 18 points and then he's had single digits each at last two.

And you probably spend a second round pick on him. That's pretty panicky. Yeah, I guess. So yeah, I guess it's just. That's panicky because he had single digit in the last two weeks. So did Tyree kill. Here's the deal. Here's why.

Craig, here's why they're different. Here's why they're different. I think Jonathan Taylor, he has a Naheem Hines problem. Naim Hines is really good, first of all. And second of all, he's taking some of the most valuable touches away from Jonathan Taylor, and it doesn't seem likely that that's going to change. So again, I very much recommend

go and reading Jwayne McFarland's utilization report at PFF every week because he tracks and breaks down how teams are using their different backs. Heinz so far is getting half of the long down-and-distance. stuff so that means a lot of targets in those times that's like a passing game down he's getting all of the two minute drill stuff so far this year which again is dump-offs dump-offs you know opportunities to have draw plays where you're picking up 20 yards or whatever because teams are playing like a prevent defense or whatever those are those are situations in the game where running backs can really make

hey and jonathan taylor's on the sideline in those plays um the other thing that really matters here is Jonathan Taylor profiles at least so far. I mean, week one was a little different, but at least so far he profiles as a little bit of a game-dependent guy, a game script-dependent running back. So in other words, when the Cults are winning, he's getting more carries, he's getting the ball more, they're going to try and salt away the game, all that stuff.

And that's a problem because he's on the Colts. Exactly. He's on a Colts team that is led by Carson Wentz, who, again, just does not look good so far. I know that Wentz was coming off an injury. two injuries, two ankle injuries. So there's that. And that's an excuse that maybe that will change down the line.

However, just, I don't know, situationally, I think it's just not great for him. He's a good player. He's a very good player. But if you were hoping you're getting a steel, top five player, it's looking more and more like he's sort of like in that Josh Jacobs zone where he's like a really good runner,

but just doesn't get the utilization that you want. It's not as panicky as it was for Jonathan Diller this time last year, but like it's pretty bad. also Quentin also got hurt again. This is a really bad situation. On the plus side, on the plus side with Taylor, the one thing I would add is it does look like

it's a two-man backfield. I think Marlon Mack was inactive today. Healthy scratch. So like that's a slight positive. That's a silver lining with what we've seen. I don't think that's a silver lining, to be honest. I mean, it's better than what we're seeing.

If it's a three-man backfield, then it's like, fuck this. But like, yeah. So I would say, you know, it's definitely disappointing. So maybe you're hitting the panic button. Stefan Diggs, not hit 70 yards yet and has not been a top 25 receiver in a given week yet.

Any panicky button? No, because he's getting so many targets. He's still getting like almost 30% of the team's targets. I don't know what's going on. It's just not really clicking. He's had 60 to 69 yards in every game. It'll happen. Okay.

AJ Brown not hit 50 yards yet this season left after like, I don't even know how many snaps the hamstring injury. Really early. I'm a little bit panicky on AJ Brown. Me too. To me, it's like, it's, It's a combination of the volume isn't as much as you'd like to see. So, for instance, in week one through three, Diggs had 13, 8, and 10 targets.

Compare that to A.J. Brown, who had 8, 9, and then 2 of this last week, he went out with an injury. So that's clearly a big factor. But the injury to me is what I'm panicking about a little bit because this guy, this is a guy who missed a big chunk of the preseason with, I believe, knee injuries. Like, both knees were hurt. And so he was hobbling around. Well, it's at the preseason. He played the entire last season with the knee injuries and then had surgery for it and missed. a lot of OTAs recovering.

Yeah. So this feels like a compensatory, you know, like injury type. He's compensating for whatever. Is that the right word? Compensatory? That might not be the right word. Compensitory. Yeah, that actually is.

Okay. Anyways, he's compensating for another injury. So I'm starting to not panic, but I'm definitely getting worried about this. I think I'm hitting the panic button. AJ Brown's always been so boom or bust. And now that you add in Julio Jones and the Titans' offense isn't as good. Taneyel hasn't looked as good.

Everything's just a little bit off with Tennessee so far. And if you add in like AJ Brown's like nicked up now and he, I don't know. I don't feel great about it. I think I am hitting the panic button. Last one here.

Alan Robinson. Big time. I'm going to hit the panic button on Alan Robinson. Yeah. I was so intrigued by this. So Alan Robinson I,

all right, well, let's just be honest. Did you guys look at my notes or no? Because if so, I'm not going to ask you his trick question. I have not yet. Do you know how many receiving yards Alan Robinson has this season?

Everyone listening play along. How many receiving yards do you think Alan Robinson has this year? I can't. I'm looking at it. So, D.K., you guess? It's less than 100, right? It's 86.

Oh, my gosh. There are, and I look this up, 17 receivers had more than 86 receiving yards today. That sucks. God, that sucks. And one of them was Tim Patrick. Tim Patrick's good. Like, so was Alan Robinson.

So here's the thing. This is the worst three-game stretch of Alan Robinson since he was catching balls from Blake Bordels. Oh, boy. Like, also just not to beat the dead horse, but Kwez Watkins for the Eagles, had a 91-yard patch like last week. That was more than Alan Robinson earlier year.

Now, stats, small samples, whatever. But the point is, is there any reason for this to get better other than, well, he's been good before? But, like, the fundamental problem here is this offense is bad. Yeah. They don't seem to be particularly well suited to, like, fixing the main problem, which is basically aside from the designs and stuff, like the let the tackle situation is, the left tackle situation is as bad as it.

Like Jason Peters really might probably not play anywhere else after this. Like he will retire when the bears don't need him anymore. He was kind of retired before the bears needed him. And like, he's just out here getting worked by Miles Garrett, who's just like, juicing him for a Brown's record at sacks. It's not fair. Did you have like four and a half sacks today? Four years, like the Brown's record for the team.

Jesus. And you don't think those guys like go into the whole week being like, this is how you make your money. You just beat up on the worst tackle you see all season. Like you don't think Chandler Jones did that when he went to get, oh, anyway. Not that Taylor Lone's bad. Point being, the fact that the Bears went into this and didn't really have a plan for how Jason Peters would be going against Miles Garrett, to me is actually almost a bigger indictment of Matt Nagy than the field stuff.

Yeah. least Leno. What is wrong with this team? So, point being, I don't really have any faith that Matt and Aggie fixes any of this stuff with the Bears at all. Hopefully they fire him. And then Alan Robinson, isn't he a free agent at the end of the year? What point is Alan Robinson just be like, well, I'm out of here soon, bro. And in fantasy, this is a really tough spot if you have Alan Robinson because you can't, there's no selling high. Like, you can't get rid of them. You just have to, like, hunker down for the winter and hope it gets.

it's better. Here's the problem. So Justin Fields clearly look terrible today. I don't know. I'm not super confident in Nagy addressing all the issues that he had this week and then just like magically fixing it. And the other thing is I think he's going to go back to Dalton. Dalton, meanwhile, has attempted, I believe, one pass more than 15 yards down the field this year. Nice. It just severely, severely like limits the upside for this offense. Alan Robinson used to be quarterback proof. I don't know if it's like because he's getting older. It's just like that shit's catching up with him or what, but just like, you know.

Exhausting. The efficiency stuff is just catching up with him. It's like he's regressing. But like he can't, he's not, he's clearly not QB proof in this offense this year. So yeah, this is definitely a panic button type situation. I'm total panic buddy in Allen Robinson. If he has a good spike week, I would deal him immediately after that. Okay.

Speaking of bad quarterbacking, deceiving yards award, we're given his Pittsburgh Steelers. Madjee Harris had 19 targets. That's the second most targets for running back on record since they started recording targets. Hit 14 catches. Not only that, if you didn't watch the game and you checked in on your fantasy stats and you're like, oh wow, bad game for Pittsburgh, they put up 10 points. But then you like actually go and you're like, oh wow, Chase Claypool, nine catches, 96 yards. Ben through for 318. Nagy over 100.

It all looks kind of good. You're like, oh, well, their office was humming. They just couldn't punch it in the red zone. No, they were so bad. The offense is so bad. Ben cannot physically, I think I can throw football farther than Ben right now. He can throw the ball 16 yards max,

and he didn't attempt a ball past 10, it looked like today. All he does is dump it off to Najee Harris. I actually feel pretty good about Najee's fantasy future this year because he's Matt Forte now. I mean, he's going to catch seven to ten balls a game, it feels like there was a crucial fourth and ten in the red zone. Ben said hike immediately turned, dumped it off to Najee Harris.

He got zero yards and it got lit up. On fourth down. Fourth and ten. Yeah. And listen, the whole wide receiver crew is banged up there. Juju got hurt. Deontes hurt. So Claypool got a ton of run.

But they didn't, I mean, Claypool is one of the most dynamic deep ball guys in the league. They weren't taking shots to him. He was catching these little four-yard things. Ben's like rubbing his elbow after every throw. Like, it is a disaster. I just got tennis elbow. In Pittsburgh.

It's not the same. Ben and Eli Manning are not the same. But it's the closest. I felt to understanding how everyone else must have thought when the Giants just stuck to Eli Manning for a year too long. And everyone's like, what are they doing?

Except obviously the Steelers are more talented than the Giants were at that point. But like, organizationally, the fact that the Steelers came into this season with this when we all saw how last season ended. And like Ben, like, oh,

like he can't throw deep. The defensive ends can't sack him and let us bat down the pat. Like, nothing's changed. Nothing about this is different. And Ben, his,

His demeanor is funny because he's doing, you know that thing where like when you screw up, you try and place the blame on somebody else to like divert the attention from you? He'll like make a terrible throw and be like super intense like talking to the receiver after, like shaking his finger. And I'm like, dude, shut up.

Like Jimmy Garapolo when he threw the pass backward and was like just trying to find someone to play. Kyle Shannon looked like a disappointed father. To me, Ben reminds me of like an 88 year old man who still refuses to accept that he like no longer should drive a car. He's like, no, I'll still drive on the family vacation. that's actually perfect The family has to like hide his keys

We're driving like Tahoe Grandpa I don't know it's a windy road He's like I got it And everyone's like White knuckling it in the van This is dangerous for everyone on the road Dude I'm looking at his passing chart right now He had

One two three four five six Six of his completions He attempted 58 passes Six of them were completed for more than 10 yards this is the most hilarious passing chart. This is not Ben Rathesberger's fault. Ben Rothesberger took like $15 million pay cut to come back,

which should tell you how good he is. The Steelers, I actually cannot believe that the Steelers were like, yeah, this is our best option. I still maintain. They will be better when they eventually, I think they'll have to bench it at some point. Do you think this is the Steelers? Craig, you can answer this probably the best.

You know how the Steelers are like, oh, we've had three coaches since 1936 or whatever. Do you think this is just them being like, we're loyal to a fault? We're going to stick by our guys, even though if they struggle because the NFL is a wild, league, and we don't want to overreact to the bumps on the road, essentially.

Do you think this is that? What's happening is like, basically they're deferential to Ben because he's been with the team for so long. Yeah, I think I have it to put it and hit the nail on the head. It's kind of like Eli. I think that, you know, the Steelers, they don't want to act rational. that's not who they are, right?

There's these stalwarts that get through every season. They always have winning seasons with Tomlin. They've always had them with Ben. I do think they're just a little bit stubborn now and refusing to move on. Get with the times, you know? Holy shit.

Those franchises are literally related. Like, it's important to remember, like the Rooney's and the Maras, aside from literally having a person connected to both families named Rudy Mara, like are both inherited it from a father who helped build the league as we know it today and now are steward and like take pride

in the we're not reactionary. like they like they love the chuck knolls stat three coaches since richard nixon i i it's it's not a coincidence it's that they both have very same organizational structures and ideas of what they're supposed to be anyway this is just like so actually to add one more thing i'm looking at his passing chart i said six completions over 10 yards he had eight completions over five yards dude 30 30 completions under five yards that's not the emperor has no completions over 20 yards. That's what this is. It's a disaster. You can't win like that.

It's, Craig Craig nailed it. It's, he shouldn't take his license. Okay. That's okay. Fantasy jealousy. Don't take his license. He's still driving without the license. He's still getting behind the wheel. Fucking knife the tire.

He's like, I'd have a license back when I was 18 before World War II. Don't need one now. Oh my guess. Like, what's the story? Like the guy goes to, you know, the story? like the vet flies to France and it's like, and the guy's like, where's your passport? I didn't need a passport last time I came. When I came to Normandy.

Oh my God. For D-Day. I was like, okay. Anyway, let's get to fantasy jealousy. I thought you were talking about like a, like a dog vet, like an animal vet for a. Like a veterinarian? I was like, when you see, where's he going with this?

I don't know how many of those were a D-Day. Anyway, fantasy jealousy, player you wish you had, D-K. Okay, so this guy, and I, looked it up. He finished as the wide receiver 47 and Fantasy Pro's final ADP, like 120th-ish

overall. I could have had this guy. I could have had this man on every single one of my fantasy teams. If I'd only listen to Craig, why don't I listen to Craig more? Mike Williams, of the freaking Chargers, really is the new Michael Thomas in the NFL. The wide receiver

won this week so far. There's still one game left. 33 points. He had nine, sorry, nine targets, seven catches, 122 yards, and two scores. The dude, he looks amazing. It's not like empty calorie production, like Deonti Johnson, for instance. The dude is like making insane plays going up in the end zone and like spinning and grabbing a touchdown, toe touching.

Like he's insanely talented. And now he's in a situation where he can really thrive. Like they're getting him involved in the short intermediate area instead of just having him run, wind sprints down the sideline. Yeah, I'm just really bummed. I did not draft Mike Williams in every single draft this year. I agree. Craig was right. I was wrong about Mike Williams. I think. I was right. You were right. I was wrong. You're very good looking. I'm not attractive.

It's like, damn it, man. I feel like this was like a hiding in plain sight, but there were three things blocking it. One, he's the number five pick who's a bust, and it's harder to shed that. Obviously, the infuriaciness of it. Two, the talent of him hiding behind, I think how limited Philip Rivers was for the last few years of his career. And the play calling. And the play calling of a running back coach really limiting what this offense is. And when all three of those things are removed,

you go from Rivers' arm in the bottom three in the league to Herbert, which is top three, a running back coach to one of the more forward-thinking ones in the league. And then Williams, the role changes like, it all happens so quickly. Yeah. He is like Michael Thomas Light,

except he's like kind of bigger and faster. Oh, huge. He's like six, five. and big. And his body language is completely different. He catches balls now and he'll stand up and like spin it. He's like reinvigorated. He's a whole new person.

When we say Michael Thomas, we're not trying to blow smoke. Of course, he's making, he's probably made like himself like $50 million in the first three weeks of the year. Well, we're saying the Michael Thomas thing, as D.K. alluded to, like, it's because Jill Lombardi, the charges OC came from New Orleans. And I kind of dismissed that because I was like, Sean Payton calls up, like, we don't know that's going to happen. It's like, Matt and Aggie came from.

Kansas City, Chicago. Look how that went. You know what I mean? Like, they didn't even call bootlegs for Trubisky till three years in. Like, it doesn't always translate. It's so hard. Craig was right.

I was wrong. Anyway, credit to Craig. It's really hard to separate like the signal from the noise in terms of like what coaches are talking about, but we definitely miss that one. Well, Craig didn't. Danny and I did. Damn straight. Brandon Cook's award for the player you don't want to acknowledge is good at fantasy.

Honestly, it's Mike Williams for me too. But the other one is Jamar Chase for the Bengals, dude. He's looking great. I didn't. He is. He doesn't. He is. He doesn't.

He doesn't. I have him in my dynasty league. I don't have him in any, like, redraft leagues. And, okay, this, this bloop. So this week, it's 65 yards and two touchdowns. And I guess he can catch. But then Scott Barrett tweeted this week. I could not believe this.

Most fantasy points by a rookie receiver in their first three career games of the last 35 years. Anquand Bolden, Roy Williams, Terry McLaren, Calvin Ridley, Jamar Chase, Randy Moss, Andre Johnson. That's a pretty good list. So he's top five ever for the first three career games last 35 years ahead of Randy Moss.

All those guys worked out. But you remember how much he sucked in the preseason? But you remember that? I mean, look, look, it's... I think there was, like, a decent amount of smoke that, like, things could start really rocky for the Bengals' offense with Jamar Chase, all that stuff.

Like, there was reason to believe maybe we were, like, overrating this a little bit going in because we... You remember, we had them ranked really highly at one point. And then we kind of backed off it a little bit, dropped him down below T. Higgins, which I think is not necessarily wrong.

T. Higgins is looking awesome too. But he's clearly, like the drops thing is clearly not an issue. Like, he's a baller. He was just shaking off the rust. He was out for a year. This is what we saw with him in Borough at LSU. He's getting deep.

He's making big plays down the field. He's winning at the catch point. He can separate late. Like, he's not a big, he's not like a twitched-up separator type guy, like Stefan Diggs where he's like jukeing guys out of their pants or whatever. But like he is really good at separating late in the play. Like basically right when the ball arrives, if you watch him,

he just like a subtle push off, the subtle like elbow. And he can create enough separation at the catch point to catch the ball. He's very good at that. So that's what I think that's why like the separation thing is like a little bit overplayed. And also just like the drops obviously were clearly overplayed. So yeah, I'm happy to see him doing so well. I still think he's going to be a little. boom or bust just in this offense, but, you know, obviously this is super, super exciting.

Yeah, and, you know, I mean, we joked about, oh, the Bengals are going to be, what do we call them, Cowboys North? Yeah. And Chase has had this hot start. The Bengals' offense, despite them being two and one, has not looked very good. Like, and they're not throwing the ball at all. They have a negative pass to run ratio, meaning they've run more than they've passed straight up this year, which not many teams do.

Joe Burrow hasn't thrown more than 30 passes in a game. So although he may not keep up this touchdown right, I think the sky's, like, I think he's going to continue to ascend because I think as Joe Burrow continues to get healthier and healthier, which he looked really healthy today. He was like scrambling, juking guys out, getting outside of the pocket. I think. Vigorous.

Yeah. Healthy looked at me. I think Chase is going to be even better, like, in the next, you know, as the season wears on. Yeah, there was a good play. I think his first, I can't remember whether it was his first or second touch on, but Burrow basically dropped back in the pocket, looked to his left, had good protection, stepped up, looked back to his right, found Chase, hit him in the back of the end zone. like that is like exactly what we're wanting.

Chase is so, or Burrow is still so good. Yeah. Is that feel in the pocket, you know, he can make plays. He doesn't have a strong, super strong arm or like crazy traits or whatever. He's just smart, has a feel for the pocket and he's obviously very accurate. So like, I don't know. It's just you're starting to see where this offense can go. I mean, Chase, sorry, Burrow, he attempted 18 passes in this game.

He completed 14 of them for 172 yards and three touchdowns. This is not like a high octane. just, you know, scorched earth the offense, but they were just very, you know, they were very efficient against a pretty good defense here. And he wasn't sacked today, which is insane. T.J. Watt, not being in, I guess, has a huge impact. Yeah.

Wasn't the first time he did have a sacking game in like 60 games? 70-something, it was the longest streak in NFL history, I think. Jeez. R-A-P. Okay. Okay. D.K., Brandon Cook's Award, someone you do not want to admit is actually good of fantasy, but they are.

I'm starting to believe if Hunter Renfro is actually really good at fantasy. He's like a... Oh, this is like, perfect. He's like... I haven't wanted to admit he's like an NFL player since he left Clemson. Yeah, I mean, it's just funny because he's just like a skinny white dude

who like is not athletic, but he's such a freaking baller. He's a baller. Because like Cooper Cup is super athletic. Hunter Renfro is not. I don't know. I think they're both... I would not say that Cooper Cup is like

blazing fast. Well, that's not what athletic means. He's significantly like, like of a different class... Cooper Cup is extremely athletic. I think we're losing the thread here. What I'm saying is Hunter, Hunter Renfro is just a freaking baller. He's a really good route runner.

On his touchdown play, on his touchdown play, on his touchdown cash, he like broke off the defensive back from the slot. I think it was Xavier Howard. It was like not some like just Joe Schmov defensive back. So yeah, man, the dude's a baller. He's really good. He's being utilized in this offense, like really frequently. He's actually second on the team so far in targets, 23 and three games.

He had team high five catches today. He had 77 yards and a touchdown. I don't think he's a ceiling play where he's going to get these Cooper Cup type games. However, I do think he is a solid sort of just like a flex option and PPR where you can just bank on him getting like eight targets and six catches

and he's just going to, you know, create a couple third down conversions, maybe get it in the end zone. I don't know. Hunter Renfro. Another guy that's first team all dad. Dads love Hunter Run. Oh, yeah. Just gritty. Gritty.

I don't even want to talk about it. Craig, your Brandon Cook's Award guy who is actually good, but we don't want to talk about it. I will not stop saying this guy until he proves me wrong. It's once again Brandon Cooks, folks. This is the Brandon Cooks Award for the player you don't want to acknowledge it's good at fantasy. He had 112 yards with Davis Mills. He's averaging over 100 yards a game and we're just refusing to acknowledge it. He's getting tons of targets, like unbelievable amounts of targets.

He's one of four guys who... Someone's catching past. That whole, that entire idea that we disputed, that we shook off is wrong. Brandon Cook is debunking it. He had a 39% target share on Thursday night against the Panthers. With Davis Mills. Davis Mills threw for 168 yards, 112 of them from Brandon Cooks. No, Craig, you're the one who pointed it out and you pointed out about Houston.

Because before Alan Robinson, DeAndre Hopkins was the guy who always had bad quarterbacks. And Craig pointed out that, like, great receivers. or not Cook's great, but like, bad quarterbacks over target their number one guy. And Davis Mills being bad seems bad for Cooks. It's actually great because a bad quarterback is how you end up with a 40% target share. Because what he lacks in accuracy he makes up for in sheer volume, he will pound you the rock over and over and over because he can't make any of the read besides his first one. You want to know something interesting about this Brandon Cook's angle too is

people were bringing this up on Thursday night when they played. Who's going to trade for Brandon Cooks? Because he's already been traded like six times in his career. Some contender, go get him. Chiefs. It's like uniquely one of the strangest careers in it. It's the Chiefs trade for him.

What if the Packers trade for this guy? Then his ceiling is like, woo. I mean, just think about it. Forget all the other trades. Can you imagine like playing, like getting traded to the Patriots and Tom Brady and Bill Belich. losing the Super Bowl, being traded away, getting to that team, meeting the Patriots, your old team in the Super Bowl, and then losing again in like back-to-back seasons.

That alone is like insane. Could you just remind me the teams he's played for? Because I honestly can't remember now. So, Saints. So, Pat. Saints, Pat's, Rams, Texans. But he went from Drew Brees to Tom Brady to Jared Goff when they were like Super Bowl good. And then he went to.

But he was there for the McVeval. And then he went to Deshawn Watson, and then now he's screwed. But he's like the anti-Allen Robinson. Every, like, he's with Hall of Famer after Hall of Fame after Hall-Famer. And now- Yeah, but he's legit good. He's legit good. Yeah, he is.

You know, but. It's a whole thing. Can we talk about real quick? Just very, very quickly. The Texans are feister than I thought. They had what I thought is like the funniest roster in the NFL coming in. And like, I mean, credit to Casario and everybody who's like making the moves, like, they're actually pretty competitive.

Like they're a tough out. I wouldn't say that they're going to be necessarily like good, but yeah. You know, they're tough out. Like the veteran team. The random hilarious mix of veterans that they've signed, like the six different mid-range veteran running backs that they signed, like it's just the funniest roster,

but they're actually like, it's actually working somehow. I don't know. Like not working, working, but you know, they're better than I thought. All right.

Time for a very important conversation. Burn book. Inductee of the week. Kyle Shanahan. I actually think it's Kyle Shannon. Can we put Kyle on that? No question. Tracer.

Not yet? Not yet. We can't do it yet. We can't do yet. Can't burn Kyle Shanahan? Everyone's hurt on the team. Like, what's he going to do? Trace Sherman was announced as a starter.

The running back they traded up to get. Was announced as the starter. And then he gave the majority of the, he gave a career high carries to the fullback. Well, I mean, it was... What else do you need? It was five carries. He gave him five carries. Career high sounds...

How many did Sermin get? Ten. All right, but... You check out four catches. If we had stopped the count after three quarters, that was like two carries. That was like two or five. Let's add in the fact that he put Iyuk in his dog house for no apparent reason. Yeah, we're not even talking.

I think it's... Trent Shirfield is now third on the... Trent Shirfield is playing behind like Muhammad Sunoo now. I think I'm going to try out for the Niners. It's just so weird, man. I feel like I could get a starting spot. Craig, you could make the Niners. I will briefly, I will entertain that Mike Davis has upset many people.

People are pissed at us on Twitter about Mike Davis. Dude, Mike Davis, look, the annoying thing is he's not even bad enough to shred. Like, he has double digits in every PPR point every week. Like he, I mean, it's like he's, you know what the worst part is he's Mike Davising. He's just there. It's not awful. It's not good. It's just like exactly average, which is exactly what we have.

hoped he would not be, which is, but the only, but I will also say in his defense, it's the Falcons as a whole is, I think, the surprising part. Like, Calvin Ridley's been awful too. Yeah. I mean, so, yeah, I think, like, didn't quarter outscore him again? Yeah, quarter outscore he did. The receiving yardage is crushing because, like, he's, he's, he's basically had a two-thirds, he's got the two-thirds hold on the backfield, and he's, he's still getting catches. It's just the receiving yardage differential is he. I had a really hard time, finding somebody to add into the burn book this week. I think it's Kyle Shanahan.

Like, like, like, because here's the thing. The point of the burn book is like, this person makes me want to pull my hair out. And like three weeks in a row, I'm like, fucking Kyle Shanahan. I just feel bad that we've gone, two of our three are, so if Rahim Moster, Marcus Callaway, and now Kyle Shannon. So let's just get to the point. We take the Rehimoster one back. I'll just get to the source. How about, can we just say Kyle Shanahan's running scheme?

no that's the good part Kyle Shanahan's personnel decisions Kyle Shanahan's personnel decisions because he's a good coach and like all the other like Debo's awesome George Cadele had a good game

like all that's fine it's just his running thoughts Kyle Shannon's I think he's just doing this to piss off fantasy people all right let's do it we can go there specifically

Kyle Shan's personnel no that's like couch it's Kyle Shannon I'm mad at yeah I don't know how we can separate this out Hey, Moster, like speed. Okay, fine.

That's implied. Fine. Fine. He's in. I don't know how we enforce this burn book, but I think it feels, it feels right to me. You know why Craig's upset? Because flying coach, because that's Sean McVe because his brother, Sean McVeigh's boys at Shanahan. And if we put Shannon in the burn book, Craig's going to get a call.

He's going to be getting harassed. It's going to be a whole thing. He's going to have to deal with the group chat. You'll never produce Monday Night Football when it's McVeigh and Shannon in the booth. You're getting kicked out of that gig. You're stuck with us forever. Cut you all. off at the pass. Okay.

Weird flex, but okay, other than Craig will just produce the Monday Football Broadcast. All right. The guy nobody expected to play well, weird flex but okay. Who's your weird flex but okay for this week? D.K. I'm going with Kendrick Boren for the Patriots. So the Patriots backfield is notoriously a nightmare to navigate in fantasy. And once again, it was today. But evidently, the wide receiver core is making a run for it too. Kendrick Boren led the team with six sketches this week. He had 96 yards in a touchdown, 21.6 ppr points. This is after having three catches for 27 yards combined in the first two weeks. Now, I think that it's fine. Good for Kendrick

Bourne. I don't know if this is necessarily going to be a thing. And Jacoby Myers still got his, but I think what this complicates is like you can't start Agular, right? Agalore. How do you say his last name? Agalore? Agalore. I think the actual correct pronunciation has been displaced by the guy who said it after catching a baby in that video. Like, I don't think he said that right, but that's how everyone remembers it. So they pronounce it that way. Yeah. So, yeah, I would say just, you know, weird flex, Kendrick.

I think it's great that you did so well. I think, you know, he's actually like a good player, I think, but he just can't be someone that you're going to, you know, depend on in fantasy. I don't think the past, like, nothing about this receiving game. Like, we were like, oh, Hunter, Henry or Johnny Smith. Neither. Neither. This Pat's, like, is this Pat's Buck's game going to be competitive? We're going to talk about this for a week.

This game should be a blunt. blowout. Brady's going to leave their on trails at halftime. Yeah, I think you're right. I think it's going to be like 42 to 10. Oh, boy. I mean, imagine how hyped up Brady's going to get the bucks to this game. Can you imagine being a 10?

Like, we're talking about the Patriots fans. Like, oh my God, they like saw seven Super Bowls and now they have to like, imagine the Buccaneers players going with Brady into the stadium. It's not good that the Bucs lost. It's not good for the Pats that the Bucks lost today. They're going to be pissed. I'm more interested in the Bucs players than the, the Pats fans.

Okay. Who else? Peyton Barber had 100 yards. That's kind of, wow. 21 carries. Just got to throw this out that, again, cannot stress this enough. The Raiders gave Kenyon Drake like $5.5 million for like next year. And he's not even playing for them when Josh Jacobs got hurt this year.

I just don't. It's so weird because Drake was sort of like the early down guy last year. It's like that's what he did last year. Right. It was like he wasn't the receiving guy. and now he's only the receiving guy? This makes sense. Why do we play fantasy football?

Why do we do this? It's so, it's because it's a cult. Yeah. It is a cult. We decided, yeah, we decided this morning, it's a cult. Our families are worried. Weird flex, but okay. They don't understand it.

They don't get why we talk about it constantly. We can keep mine short because this category, I feel like, doesn't require much insight because it's truly just weird flex. AJ Green, 112 yards. God. Okay. Cool beans Yeah

That's it Should we do Should we do the tuttoot section next? Well, we already talked to some of these guys I mean, mentioned Najee Harris I'm just going to do a little tutuita Nagee Harris Because my whole thing was like the volume

And even I was, I mean, stunt I mean, second most targets on record I will never pretend to say I saw that coming Yeah, and to be clear, this is the Tooting Our Own Horn section, which is kind of Right, I was going to kind of a creepy way to put it, but we're going to do it anyway. Yeah.

I'm going with DeAndre Swift guys. Lions. Are you guys coming around on my DeAndre Swift tied-in-one? Or sorry, running back one take from three-season? I almost put DeAndre Swift under the players I wish I had. Mike Williams is more accurate, but I almost put Swift. I agree. He came in. You hit the nail on the head on this one.

You did a good job. He came into the game as the RB8 in PPR. Through Sunday night football, I believe he is the RB4 this week. and I think that it's actually going to grow from here. It feels like they are starting to realize what they have with Deontre Swift because he has looked really good, really explosive dynamic. Every time he touches the ball, it feels like something good happens for their offense,

whether it's in the past game or the run game. And he's there before this week. He should have had another touchdown, too. He stretched the ball over the goal line. It was very clear, at least from my angle, from my opinion, that he had a touchdown. They decided not, they were thinking about, challenging it, but they had a first and goal

from like the one yard line, so they're just like whatever. And then of course, Tomole Williams came in and faltered the touchdown. But what I'm saying is this guy is so good in the passing game. This is exactly what I was trying to convey in the preseason. He's so good in the passing game that they're going to utilize him. He has,

he basically is like their number one option in the offense. He should be. He's the most talented guy in this offense. He should be the focal point. Hawkinson was pretty quiet today. But I think they're going to continue to get this guy much more involved in the passing game. I think he's a good match for you know, Jared Goff's skill set. So I'm excited to see what Dandre Swift continues to do.

Hopefully, you know, you can stay healthy and they continue to, like, expand his role in the past game. Swift and Chubb are the discount version of Nick Chubb and Cream Hunt, except if Cream Hunt was the lead back. Yeah, yeah. Lions are weirdly a fun team to watch. Lions are fun. Texans are fun.

Just, you know what? No one knows anything. Yeah, it's upside down. All right. Two, toot. Craig, we, Craig, we tooted Craig's one. Yeah, we already tooted your horn, but you can get. years in anyway. He doesn't need to continue. No, he doesn't. We did it. He doesn't need to do it. He knows. Just say Mike Williams. Well done, Craig. Well done, Craig. Okay. All right. Craig, you,

cutting you out from Mike Williams. Just do the prop bet. How did we do on the prop bets? We are red hot on prop bets. This week, we went seven for nine. We did the James under on yards. That hit. Kenny Galday, over three and a half receptions. That hit. Sequin over 20 receiving yards. Hit. We missed on Mooney. We, Melvin Gordon carries. We hit on the over. Mike Williams hit on the over. Stafford yards hit on the over. Calvin Ridley under receiving yards. We hit on two unders this week, and we missed on the field's rushing yards.

So seven for nine. We also had somebody tweet us about a parlay that they made of these props. Three of the ones that we hit, he parlayed them together. So shouts out that guy, you made some money off us. Yeah, that was cool.

That's the first time anyone's ever done that to us. That was fun to see that. So. Yeah. Making money. Let's keep it going. Let's keep the momentum going. I'm ready for next week. Excited.

All right. We're going to get out of here real quick, But first, D.K. wants to hit us to say on a more serious note. Yeah. So I just wanted to say something really quickly about Mike Taglier, who tragically died over the weekend after battling COVID for the last couple of months. And, you know, I didn't know him very well. I had an opportunity to do a few podcasts with him. He was just a really good guy. You know, talking to him, all the interactions I had with him in the industry, very kind, welcoming, you know, very enthusiastic. I just thought he was just very clearly a very positive. influence in the world, in his world, in our world. So he's just going to be very sorely missed.

And he leaves behind a wife and two children, and their family could use all the help that they can get right now. So Fantasy Pros has set up a GoFundMe to help support his family, his two kids and his wife. So donate if you can. And one awesome idea that one of my leagues had is to donate part or all of the league buy-in money, essentially the winnings to his family in honor of tags. So if you get a chance to do that. If you had the opportunity to do that, that'll be really cool. He was a great guy, an excellent analyst, and he's going to be very, very missed. So it's just, you know, obviously, we did everything today with a very heavy heart, and we just want to say, we're going to miss you tags.

So we'll put in the GoFundMe link in the show doc, or sorry, in the show description, so you can check it out there. Yep. So just go into the show episode description, and you'll be able to click, and it'll take you right to the page. All right. rest and peace thank you dk thank you mike

thank you mike wargon for producing this episode thank you ever for listening and um yeah stay safe everyone