The Ringer NFL Show - Week 3 Bold Predictions and Our Million-Dollar Lineup
Episode Date: September 25, 2020We look back on our Week 2 predictions and offer up our gut calls and bold predictions for Week 3 before building our million-dollar daily fantasy lineup. Logan Thomas, Washington (9:26) Allen Robins...on, Bears (11:42) Tyler Lockett, Seahawks (14:49) CeeDee Lamb, Cowboys (17:04) Joshua Kelley, Chargers (19:45) Kenyan Drake, Cardinals (21:09) Taysom Hill, Saints (24:29) Drew Sample, Bengals (27:14) Chiefs vs. Ravens (29:14) Million-Dollar Lineup (34:11) Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show.
I'm Danny Heifitz here with Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck.
Craig, you're back from Tateau.
How are you doing? Are you tan?
I'm refreshed.
I was in the fresh Lake Tahoe water.
It was very cold, but it felt really good.
It was revitalizing.
I'm glad you're revitalized.
This is our Friday show.
We're going to share our gut calls for the weekend.
We're going to look at how our gut calls did last weekend.
And we're going to give a daily fantasy lineup at the end.
But first, you guys ready for a fun fact.
So ready.
This is from Kyle DeSormo.
The nothingness of a black hole
generates a sound in the key of B-flat.
So here's my question with that.
How far does the sound go?
Like, is there a certain point where it stops?
Like, if you're right outside the black hole,
can you hear it?
Or do you got to be in it?
So I had questions about this
because a black hole, like, by definition,
sucks in everything.
Like, light can't escape from a black hole.
So it's like, how does it make a sound?
And apparently it does,
just a human wouldn't be able to hear it.
But can't we hear B flat?
I'm not a scientist, dude.
I just, this is what I read on the internet.
Or a musician, apparently.
Well, no.
But apparently it's like a million billion times,
and I mean that a million billion times below our threshold,
but it is a B flat.
Oh.
Did you fact check this, Haifitz?
I did.
I read it and everything.
So, you know, it's 100% legit.
Yeah.
I mean, no one's actually ever been in a black hole.
So, um, did you watch the,
documentary interstellar?
Love transcends.
Everything.
It does.
Okay, well, let's get to week two,
which was a black hole of itself
because of all the injuries.
Yes.
That was good.
All right.
Yeah, there were a lot of people
that were hurt in week two,
but some of our corrections,
some of our predictions
turned out correct.
Some got hurt on their own right.
Yeah, so let's quickly recap our gut
predictions and our bold calls for week two.
D.K.
You threw out there that
Paris Campbell would be a top six receiver.
He fell victim to the injury bug.
He is a PCL injury.
He's probably hurt for quite a while.
So that sucks.
He had a carrier for seven yards.
He was going to do it for sure.
Definitely going to do it.
100,000 percent.
Like a million billion times going to do it.
And then you all said,
Deonti Johnson would be the highest scoring
Pittsburgh skill player.
That was correct.
Oh my God.
You got a hold of that one.
Nice.
Ding, ding, ding.
Well done, D.K.
Deontay Johnson's just amazing
He beat him by point one
He beat James Connor
19.2 points to 19.1 points
So a yard
Squeak that one out
Yeah the Steelers offense is finally doing
What everybody kind of predicted
In the off season of like
Deonti Johnson was like gonna pan out
And maybe be better than Juju
James Connor had like a really strong week
Everybody's getting involved
Claypool looks great
Yeah I was the idiot who believed in Benny Snell
For a half minute there
And that's not happening now I guess
Just wait
And the Steelers are gonna be even better
this week. They're getting Villanueva back.
There we go. Don't fall to the Benny
Snell Honey Trap. You also had Scotty
Miller. Yeah. My bold prediction
didn't quite go.
Scotty Miller would be a top 12
receiver, aka a wide receiver one this
week. Wrong.
Just a bit outside.
He tried the corner and missed.
Scottie Miller, man.
He was only like 72 spots
from being top 12.
That is a multiple of 12.
I think he had three targets
in one catch.
And freaking Justin Watson was the guy.
Well,
Scottie Miller dropped the touchdown.
Yeah.
Can we just pretend
that Brady didn't go back
to Scottie Miller the same way
that Rojo fumbled
and then four neck at the ball?
Like, you know,
if he had caught the touchdown,
DK would have been like correct.
I think what happened
with Scottie Miller
is the number one situation
where fantasy people
just don't know how football works.
Like, why was Justin Watson
the guy and not Scotty Miller?
Like, it doesn't make any sense to us,
but it happened.
Why?
we don't know
I don't know
Well Watson just
Wasn't on the same
Watson just ran some wrong routes
Toward the end of last season
He didn't look like he was always
In tune with what the offense was doing
And one of the reasons we all love Scotty Miller
Was that everyone was saying that
He really has a command of the offense
And what Brady wants from him to do
And that Watson did not have that
So I mean,
congrats to Justin Watson for having a good week of practice
But yes, is that what it was?
He had a good week of practice
And he just now plays more snaps
than Scotty Miller
who everybody raved about all offseason?
Well, don't drop a touchdown, Scotty Miller.
Bruce Ariens is an emotional guy.
You know what?
Justin Watson had two catches for 48 yards.
Let's not go crazy here.
Yeah, but he played more than Scottie Miller.
His snapshot was way higher.
Brutal.
All right.
Well, it's all right.
You got the Deonton Johnson thing.
Can I get to mine now?
I'm happy about that.
Yeah, Craig.
All right, I had Josh Allen to be the number one quarterback last week.
He was the third quarterback.
Not bad.
Pretty good.
It's wrong.
You're right, in spirit.
Just a bit outside.
My other gut prediction was that Ronald Jones would become a household name and he would put up 120 yards in a touchdown.
I was wrong.
However, Leonard Fournett did it for me.
He had 103 yards in two touchdowns because Ronald Jones fricking fumbled.
And we talked about on the Wednesday show about how that just puts certain players in the doghouse and coaches don't let them play for the rest of the game, which I honestly don't understand.
Do you believe in jinxes?
No.
Like our two guys fallen and dropped a touchdown.
Oh, that's not what I think of jinx is.
The jinx is when I sit in,
the jinx is when you're watching a field goal kicker
and they're like, oh yeah, this kicker is 12 for 12
from this distance and then he misses.
That's a jinks.
I don't think the buck's got jinxed or hexed or whatever
and that's how they got all these dropping the balls.
Bruce Ariens basically did the Remember the Titans thing
where Pee-D fumbles and he makes him run a mile.
You drop the football, you run a mile.
5,280 feet.
Craig, you're going to run every damn one of them.
Okay.
Your bold prediction for the week was Josh,
Jacobs will score single digit fantasy points.
I was so close.
I was monitoring that very, very close.
Very close.
He had 12 points.
He had 88 rushing yards on 27 carries, only 3.2 yards per carry.
I was very close to getting it, but he had a couple catches.
He got it all late in the game too.
I think I legitimately almost slacked you because he was at 9.8 at some point in like the
third quarter and I was like, oh God.
That is two digits though.
And he got hurt.
He like was out for a minute with a hip thing.
And so anyways, it was very close, but didn't quite happen.
All right.
The Hyphids hit us with yours.
My gut call was Dak Prescott would be the QB1.
Michael Gallup would be top five receiver.
I mean, Dak was the QB1.
I mean, do I have to pat myself in the back?
Can you guys pat me?
Give me a little pat.
This is a learning situation for you, Hyfitz.
It's just one thing.
Because Michael Gallup was not close.
Don't try and parlay your gut calls here.
Just do one.
Yeah, you're right.
It's exactly what I did.
I didn't parlay.
Michael Gallup was the third highest scoring receiver
the team, but DAC was the QB1.
So do I get a half for that?
In the future, what you should do is you should say,
Dak, Prescott, and Michael Gallup will total 48 fantasy points.
Yeah, I should have thought about that.
That way, it's one number.
Well, I'm going to prefer to take the W.
I'll be like James.
I'll just eat the Ws or whatever you said that one thing.
That was a good call, though, Hyphitz.
I mean, we went into the week thinking it was going to be a high-scoring game.
They had to come back, so they passed a ton.
I think I saw he was the first quarterback to have 400 yards passing and three rushing
touchdowns.
If they didn't get that ridiculous offense,
onside kick, he wouldn't have been the QB1.
I need the W because my other gut was that the Saints would score more points without Michael Thomas.
And the spirit of what I meant was the Saints would look better without Michael Thomas.
Just a bit outside.
He tried the corner and missed.
They looked like, oh, I was going to say dog shit.
Well, I guess I did just say dog shit.
The word came out of my mouth.
They looked horrible.
I think dog shit is my favorite new swear.
Swear word.
Well, because it's so prevalent.
It's barely a curse.
It's very satisfying.
It's very satisfying to say it.
Like your opinion is dog shit.
I like horse shit too.
Well, dog shit's specific because like, you know, if you have a dog, you deal with it all the time.
So you're like, oh my God, I know exactly what you're talking.
But the Saints did.
Just dog shit opinion.
Anyway.
Yeah.
What's your bold?
I had Tom Brady would throw for many passing yards.
He did not.
He throw for 217.
The Bucks did dominate.
But yeah, it's followed a fairly normal game script because the Panthers couldn't
keep up. I had some hopes that the Panthers would get going and they couldn't. So Tom Brady didn't
have to throw it too much. But it's all right. That's what we go bold for. And maybe if Scottie Miller
had caught that damn touchdown, we would have both been, we would have both been floating.
Feeling better. So, but let's get to our gut calls and bold predictions for this week.
D.K. Are you in touch with your gut? Are you in tune with the electromagnetic magnetic forces
of the earth? Whatever crystals you got, I don't know.
Drink a komburopo. For your gut before you give this tape.
Yeah. You need a good microbiome.
The seasons that have officially changed in the Pacific Northwest, by the way, you guys, it's raining.
It feels like fall.
I feel like the energy has changed very significantly, and I'm in tune with it.
I don't know what seasons are anymore because I lived in L.A. long enough to realize there's only two seasons.
There's jacket season and no jacket season.
And I guess now fire season and not fire season, but anyway, bottom line is, I'm feeling good.
I'm feeling good about my gut calls this week.
Logan Thomas, top six tight end finish this week.
Wow. He is kind of off a lot of people's radars, and it's largely due to the fact that he's on a bad offense, and he's a late-blooming type player. He's a former college quarterback who's kind of bounced around. He's been on a bunch of teams. But he has a lot of the things I'm looking for in terms of a tight-end breakout. He's athletic, and that's the main one. But he's also the number two guy, essentially, in their offense behind Terry McLaurin. He's got good chemistry building with, with, with, has to be a half. He's the number two guy. He's the number two guy, essentially, in their offense. He's the number two guy. He's, he's the number two guy. He's
So he has had some very promising usage over the first two games.
I believe that the production is going to follow that usage.
She had eight targets a week one, nine targets in week two.
I saw this on Twitter per Jared Smola.
In week two alone, Thomas played 91% of the snaps.
He ran 95, he ran routes on 95% of the passing downs.
He had a 27% target share.
So in other words, these are all the things you're looking for at a tight end.
He's running a lot of routes.
He's in on passing downs.
He's running routes instead of blocking on those passing downs.
and he's getting a lot of targets.
So against Cleveland this week,
who just got done giving up 15 targets,
11 catches in 87 yards to Bengals' tight ends.
Now that was a little bit of an interesting scenario
because the Bengals were coming from behind.
But I could honestly see kind of a very similar situation
playing out for Washington this week.
So I'm going Logan Thomas, top six finish.
The cutoff last week in terms of points in half BBR
was Travis Kelsey last week, 19.7.
So he's going to need, if that holds.
Logan Thomas is Travis Kelsey.
That's the take.
He's going to need to turn into Travis Kelsey this week.
No, he's going to need to get into the touchdown or into the end zone for starters.
But I'm feeling good about this one.
This is kind of a little bit hot takey, but I'm liking it.
I know.
It's just like, D.K.'s gut calls are like kind of bold.
It's extremely bold.
I mean, he's a 29-year-old breakout tight end.
Although ignore that he's 29.
Just say that he's in his 20s and then it's fine.
Yeah, he's only two years younger than Des Bryant.
That's weird.
Wait, really? Des Bryant's only 31.
How weird is that?
That's bizarre.
How about him being older than Keenan Allen?
I know.
That's so weird.
Logan Thomas, not that's Brian.
Okay.
Craig,
you got a call for us this week?
Yeah.
It's not as gutsy as D.K.'s.
I'm giving a stat line out.
That could get in a salty spatoon.
You're in the salty spoutoon.
Yes.
Mine is that Alan Robinson gets back on track and has six catches for 110 yards and a touchdown.
I like 110.
Did you decide 100 wasn't bold enough?
I did call enough.
see what we are we playing are we playing the price is right style or if you go over you win in other
words like if he has more if he has 110 plus yards does that mean well i think we should just do
it where and it's points six catches for 110 yards and a touchdown is 20 fantasy points to be clear
if you go over in the price and right then you're you lose i meant i just meant like style where like
does he have to get 110 yards exactly for craig to get this right it's no it's just it's whatever
the points equal is which is 20 okay so go 20 or more that makes sense that makes sense
So just to get into this a little bit
So Alan Robbins has had a pretty weird year
He started out really slow
But like the positive side of it
Is that he's caught 100% of the targets thrown to him
That have been considered accurate
He's caught every single one
The negative side of that is he's only gotten eight of those
Because Trubisky's terrible
He's 14th in the league of targets
But he's only seen eight accurate passes
Which is terrifying
It's like the story of his whole career
But they're playing Atlanta
Who is like an absolute gold mine
All of their cornerbacks
are letting up a million fantasy points.
You're giving up the most
this season to wide receivers.
And Trubisky,
if it's going to be any week,
it's going to be this week.
Well, so here's the thing.
On one hand,
I like what you're saying
because the Falcons defense has been very bad.
And on the other hand,
they've been bad
because they were torched
by two quarterbacks,
Dak and Russell Wilson,
who were very good.
And Mitchell Trubisky is very bad.
One little note,
I mean,
so after doing some light reading,
the defense at the Falcons run
is favorable to Robinson and Trubisky.
They run a cover three and cover one.
And that is defenses in the past that
Trubisky has exploited and Robinson has exploited.
So if you want to get a little inside baseball,
cover one and cover three shells are favorable.
For Trubisky and for Robinson.
You're right. Wrong sport.
This isn't Haydenhurst.
There's no baseball involved.
It's an expression.
It's an expression.
I know, but Russell Wilson doing cosplay in the offseason
where he's like trying to play shortstop motivational speaker
for the Yankees, whatever the hell that weird side gig.
You get $35 million a year, dude.
You don't need to give motivational speeches to the Yankees for $60 grand.
What the fuck is going on there?
Anyway.
I like that.
Cosplay.
Life is cosplay, man.
The older I get.
I got a gut call.
What?
We're all just putting on clown makeup?
Football is cosplay for war.
Look, my brother got a pickup truck.
He's doing farmer cosplay.
What's this podcast?
Cosplay for?
Narcissism?
I mean, you said it.
Not me.
Yeah.
Our microphones actually plugged in.
Like, is this actually going anywhere?
Are we just talking to each other and like yelling into the ether?
You guys don't exist.
I think you're just characters in my head.
I don't know.
Just like I couldn't even come up with another person named Danny.
Anyway,
DAC,
so I said DAC would be the QB1 last week and Gallup would be top five.
I hit DAC.
I owe the people and all of you and myself,
a top five receiver.
And this week it's going to be going against Dallas.
It's Tyler Lockett for the Seahawks.
I think Tyler Lockett's going to have a huge week.
The Seahawks Cowboys game is the biggest over under the week.
So it's the highest point total.
It's expected to be a shootout.
For all the reasons you think of,
the Seahawks look great.
Russell Wilson looks great.
The Cowboys look really good
with passing last week.
But also the Cowboys cornerbacks are hurt, man.
If you look at their top three cornerbacks from last year,
Byron Jones went to Miami.
Anthony Brown has a ribs injury.
He's out.
Chidobiae Ousier has a hamstring injury.
He's going to miss this game
and probably a week after that too, actually.
And then they have Trevon Diggs,
who is probably going to play,
but he has a hamstring injury too.
And then they're left with Daryl Worley
as like their left cornerback.
and then they have, I mean,
Brandon Carr,
other outside guys,
and then they have
Jordan Lewis,
who's going to have to play
in the slot,
who is like borderline
bless his heart territory.
I talked to Marcus Mosher,
who's a great Cowboys writer,
and he basically summarizes
Jordan Lewis is not good.
Cowboys fans,
like the feel of the fan base
always knows the defender
who's like,
oh my God,
not him again.
That's Jordan Lewis for Dallas
through two weeks.
Jordan Lewis is just not doing well.
Tyler Lockett's one of the first,
of the best slot receivers in the NFL.
So this is the highest point total.
It's just kind of a perfect storm to lock it
to kind of have a huge bounce back week.
And I just think it's all lining up.
So I really like that.
And then as you like Mike McCarthy said,
it's so different from the Jason Garrett era.
Mike McCarthy said their plan is we want to score as fast as we can
as many times as we can.
God, I love it.
And the CX are doing the same thing right now too.
We need to quantify your pick.
What are you picking for Locket?
let's go with 111 yards in a touchdown
20.1 fantasy
yes he'll outscore Alan Robinson
you guys are doing very bizarre like
no 113 113 into touchdown
why don't you just do like he's going to finish
as the wide receiver 6 or above
I said five but then Craig said I needed to give a number
oh no I didn't hear you
benchmark did you say top five oh yeah top five
because Gallup I said last week so I owe the people
a top five receiver so lock it's a top five receiver
I like that more.
It's more easy for me to synthesize that information in my brain.
Sure.
Yeah, he's the top five receiver this week.
D.K., you're the Seahawks fan.
What do you make of it?
I'm going to go to the other side of the ball on this one.
I'm going with C.D. Lamb, and because I got this right last week, I'm going to do this again.
Zedie Lam outscores all other Cowboys skill players.
So he's going to outscore Gallup, Cooper, and Dack.
Or not, sorry, not Dach.
And Zique.
Yes.
Wow.
So the running backs and receivers.
and tight ends.
So I think this is a great matchup for C.D. Lamb,
going up against the CX defense,
that just got absolutely picked apart
over the middle of the field last week.
Now, there was a little bit of an extenuating circumstance.
Seahawks' safety quandary digs got ejected early in the game,
so they kind of had to scramble a little bit.
But Julian Edelman just got done,
catching eight passes for 179 yards in week two,
all of which came against the slot,
including a lot of them going up against Jamal Adams,
who is like the Seahawks best defensive player.
he's just not, I mean, his specialty is not coverage.
His specialty is blitzing, tackling, doing a lot of things around the line of scrimmage.
Like there's some ways to get him to exploit him down the field.
And I think that the Cowboys are going to look to do that.
And just in general, trying to attack the middle of the field.
C.D. Lamb runs like all his routes, well, a lot of his routes in the middle of the field.
In fact, the second most slot receiving yards last week among all players,
number one was Julian Edelman, number two, is C.D. Lamb.
Wow.
You're giving me all these numbers.
You're a Seahawks fan.
Where's the emotion?
Why are you afraid of CD land this week as a Seahawks fan?
Forget the fantasy stuff.
That is my emotion because the Seahawks defense has been
freaking picked apart in both games.
They've given up a million points to fantasy receivers this year.
Week 1, Atlanta, who had three receivers with nine catches and 100 yards.
Yeah.
And then last week against Patriots, like Cam Newton,
Cam Newton had more yards passing last week since his second game as a professional
quarterback.
2011. Seahawks defense is atrocious right now.
Yeah, it's an interesting theme of the year so far kind of early, just basically teams who can't get a pass rush getting burned in the passing game.
But to be very clear, though, so you had Deonti Johnson as the highest scoring Steelers skill player last week. It worked.
And now you're trying to do the same thing for a different player this week. So is it fair to say that you are A-B-T-LAM?
Okay.
I mean, that was...
That is either the best or the worst joke I've ever told on this podcast.
And I don't know what you is.
What I am doing is I'm testing out styles of benchmarks.
I like that.
I like, we're still feeling out like how we're going to do this.
Like, oh, is he going to be a wide receiver five?
I kind of like the idea of like he's going to outscore his teammates.
Yeah, that's good.
Filling it out.
All right.
Who's up?
Craig, are you up?
Yes, sir.
Give us a good call.
Rookie back Josh Kelly will be a top 15 running back this week.
outscore his teammate Austin Eccler.
Oh, I like this.
So Josh Kelly
rookie out of UCLA, last week
against the Chiefs, he had 23
carries and two catches
in his second NFL game,
which by the way, 23 carries is a number
that Melvin Gordon did not hit in any of his last
two seasons with the Chargers.
One of his catches was
for like 40 yards, too, or something
like that. I just think, one, I think
he's good. And two, if
a team is giving their rookie running back 25,
touches against the Super Bowl champion chiefs.
I think it's only going to get better.
And they're playing Carolina this week,
who just gave up big games to the combination of Ronald Jones and Leonard Fornette.
I like Josh Kelly.
He's the new Melvin Gordon, maybe.
Great last name.
Panthers have given up the most fantasy points per game to opposing running backs.
I am very partial to the last name Kelly for many reasons.
Because we're such great friends?
Yep, that's the only reason.
I actually, I like this.
Is it okay to explain to the listeners why you like the last name Kelly?
Or is this too private?
Let's let them do some research on their own.
I'm sure they could figure it out.
All right, cool.
So I like this one a lot.
And are you saying Austin Eccler is going to have a bad game?
You think the Panthers are so bad that Echler and Josh Kelly could both be serviceable?
I think it's a little bit of both.
I think they could both be serviceable, kind of like they were last week.
All right.
Love a little column A, column B.
Okay, my, I guess my final gut call for the week, I think Kenyon Drake is top five running back.
I'm sticking with the top fives this week.
Although that movie was terrible.
The Chris Walk, Rock one's super disappointing.
but neither here nor there.
Kenyon Drake tweeted this week,
I'm quoting him.
Loll, if you're mad about my fantasy output
the first couple of games,
drop me and bless someone else in your league,
end quote.
I like that.
You say LOL like such a New Yorker.
You say like Loll.
Loll?
Oh, that's like how I can't say dolphin?
Dalfin.
Yeah, I just say Miami
because I can't say dolphin.
Anyway, Loll.
L-O-L. I guess that sounds better.
Anyway, the point is that I just so respect
to him saying,
drop me and bless him.
someone else in your league.
But I also just think he's actually going to have the bounce back.
We all think that he's going to have a big game eventually.
I think it's this week for two reasons.
One, Cardinals' offense, really good.
Don't need to explain that.
Kyler Murray's been great.
DeAndjohn Jopkin, Drake, the points will come.
I am also betting against the Lions, specifically Matt Patricia,
because I have decided that betting against Matt Patricia is profitable in many different forms,
one of which Kenyon Drake, I mean, I don't know how to, there are so many ways to
talk about how bad the lines defenses. I barely know where to start, but I'll just start
with the Green Bay Packers at the most rushing yards in like 15 years last week. And I was
enamored with something I read from Chris Burke in the athletic where he just graded the Lions defense
from their game against the Packers. And I have to read a section where he said, quote,
he gave the D line, the defensive line for the Lions a F minus grade. And he said, just a gross
inexcusable effort up front and the approach from Matt Patricia and the different. And the
defensive coordinator, Corey Oudlin, didn't help much.
For all the additions Detroit made to its lineback and core and secondary this
offseason, it was clear that the defense would only go so far as its front could take it.
And against the Packers dynamic offense, that unit was a blocking sled come to life.
I love that.
And then basically, the lines can't tackle.
They can't fill gaps.
They can't play the run.
They can't cover.
They're hurt in a bunch of places.
The people who aren't hurt and are healthy aren't playing very well.
and they also play the most man coverage of any defense,
even though their cornerbacks are hurt and not very effective.
They have Jeff Akuta, who's coming back, who's a rookie.
I think Hopkins is going to shred them.
I think the Cardinals are going to shred them.
I think this is going to put Matt Patricia on the chopping block.
And I think Kenyon Drake's just going to be a huge part of that and get a lot of goal-line touches.
And this is going to be like a multi-touchdown week for Kenyon Drake.
I like it.
He's got 20 touches a game.
That's what he's averaging this first two games.
Really, really.
He's just kind of been Julio Jones.
He just can't get into the end zone, really.
I think that's more than he averaged last year,
Just off the half of my head, I'm pretty sure that might be higher.
Yeah, that's cool.
I'm half betting against the lions and half betting with the Cardinals.
That's a good one.
So I was out on Matt Patricia when they asked him,
is your coaching part of the defense's problem?
And he said, I called the best play in Super Bowl history.
And they were like, oh my God, he said that.
He's leaning on that.
That's not the exact quote, but he basically said, I have one.
No, I know what you're saying.
So that is just an unreal thing to say from five years ago.
That's your response.
He kind of lose me.
anyway.
Let's get bold.
Yeah, bold.
Salty Spatoon time.
What's your bold call all the week?
TK.'s is going to be nuts.
DK.'s is going to be like,
I will score a touchdown for the Seahawks this week.
No, it's not that crazy.
It's,
I think the Tateam Hill explosion is coming.
I think this is the Tateam Hill Week.
Tasem Hill Week?
Yeah.
So, okay, quietly.
And props, props to a couple of our listeners
who have sent this information.
to me.
Taysam Hill is quietly listed as a tight end on ESPN leagues for those of you who are looking
to stream tight ends.
He could be an interesting option.
At least, I'm going to say at least, and I'm doing this in a couple of leagues, he's
an interesting stash at tight end.
So, first of all, the Saints desperately need to manufacture some explosive plays.
Like, their offenses just, as we saw on Monday, it's stagnant.
Drew Brees can't throw the ball down the field.
Michael Thomas is out.
They're just like trying to dink and dunk their way down the field.
and basically relying on Alvin Camara to do so much.
It's all dink and no dunk.
Right.
And they basically, I'm just thinking, like, they need to get a little more creative.
They're going to have to, like, play some things that they haven't really been doing yet.
I think that's where Tassam Hill comes in.
I think he's going to get at least one pass attempt in this game.
And then he's also going to get some rushing and some catching involved, trying to get some explosive plays out of him.
He had a rush attempt from, like, the two-yard line.
He was like a full-back dive.
And I saw some people were really pissed about it.
because he really probably got in and they didn't review it.
They called him down.
Like, bottom line, dude, he's making $8 million this year.
So do you think he would be quarterback or do you think he's going to keep in that weird utility
Swiss Army role that he has?
Do you think he's going to play quarterback?
And you're saying that if you pick him up, he can be a second quarterback in a one
quarterback league.
No, I don't think you should play him at quarterback.
I think if you need a tight end, he's an interesting tight end streamer that has a lot of
upside.
No, will he play quarterback for the Saints this season?
No, I don't think.
he's going to be like a starting quarterback.
I'm just talking about this week.
I don't think he's going to like drop back and pass 20 times.
So what is your bold prediction?
My bold prediction is 17 points
and half BPR.
Is that bold enough?
That is bold.
That's bold.
I don't know how you got that number from, but that's...
I mean, he's touched the ball six times this year, so that's bold.
I was like 15, I was like 15 doesn't really feel that bold,
and 20 feels like absurd.
So I settled on 17.
Okay.
You know what?
Works for me.
Okay.
The one more stat I want to throw at you,
Taysam Hill in 2019 led all quarterbacks
and fantasy points for dropback.
I'm not saying he's like going to drop back a lot.
He had nine dropbacks last year.
So I think he has one this year.
He's also first in points for drop back.
All right.
So Taysam Hill will lead QBs and points per dropback in week three.
Congrats D.
All right.
Craig,
what's your bold take for this week?
Drew Sample will be.
a top seven tight end this week.
So first off, I'd like to introduce people to Drew Sample
because my guess is a decent portion of football fans
don't know who he is.
He's the second year tight end out of Washington.
He was a second-round pick by the Bengals.
He's six, five.
And last week, the Bengals tied end,
their starter, C.J. Uzoma Torres Achilles.
He's out for the year.
I mean, after that, Drew Sample was tied for the team lead
with seven catches.
This week, they're playing the Eagles,
who just let up three touchdowns to Tyler Higby.
And old Joey B likes throwing those tight end.
There's that rookie tight end, that connection, you know, the Sam Darnold, Chris Herndon connection that we all year that's not coming.
Yearn for.
Herndon's not helping your case right here.
He's not.
Drew Sable, one-handed catch last week.
Did you see that on Thursday night?
It's nice.
So I love this one.
Did you see the one catch he had?
One-handed.
He had seven catches.
A one hand, yeah.
He, okay, he's one of those players that the Bengals took him in the second round, and everyone in Cincinnati,
Eddie was like, what the fuck are you doing?
Like, they didn't have any idea who this guy was.
He was supposed to be like a fourth round pick, basically.
And he didn't do anything really as a rookie.
He just was like, you know, we've seen a million times.
Like, tight eyes just don't do anything as rookies.
But he looked pretty good up there.
I think he's like an underrated receiver.
I thought that the minute they drafted him, I said that I told that to people.
I think he's got that underrated like Will Disley.
He's, it's easy to compare people to like the same college.
But like he is like Will Disley style.
So, yeah, Burrow peppered the middle of the field in that game against Cleveland.
And with the Zoma out of the way, like, he's the guy.
Well, and they're playing the Eagles who have really bad linebackers,
and Darius Lay is going to be all over whoever he wants,
and it might leave Drew Sample open over the middle.
A little sample of Drew for me this week.
We have a lot of tight end takes this week.
Yeah.
Yeah, let's fix that.
Let's get a little more Redmond here.
I have a bold take.
I think I'm going to get in the Salty Spatoon right here.
I think the Ravens Chiefs game is going to be boring.
Oh.
So how do you quantify this, though?
I just, well, first of all, it's up to you guys.
We can either just decide that we will, like, I was going to say adjourn, confer.
We'll talk next week.
And if you two are both like, yeah, no, that was a disappointing game.
Then I win.
But I've decided that.
Let's give it a points.
I've said, Mahomes is going to have his season low in fantasy points.
But you're saying a season low is then we'll have to wait for the year to end and then
come back to this week free prediction.
Fine, I'll parley it. Mahomes and Lamar both have their season lows to date.
So it's only been two games.
All right, I don't want to quantify it. The point I'm trying to make is that this is the most
hype Monday net football game. We're all excited for it. And I feel like everything else in
2020, this is going to be disappointing. I feel like I have been set up for fun and excitement
so many times this year. It has always been canceled or postponed, whether it was
Coachella or Coachella or other things, all the good things.
are canceled this year.
Are you a big Coachella guy?
No, but I was excited.
It was a great lineup.
You were going to go?
I wanted to see Frank Ocean.
The point is, this is Coachella 2.0.
It's going to be disappointing.
It's going to be a huge letdown.
And I actually think this would be weird defense.
Patrick Mahomes has not been as accurate as you think this year.
And I just, it's less of football take.
And this is a true gut, bold call of,
I have felt this feeling of being excited many times this year.
I have yet to feel and joy for any of them.
And this one, it's a trapdoor.
Do you want to do both Mahomes and Lamar will not finish as QB-1s?
Yes, there you go. Perfect.
I was going to say we could do, the other way we could do it is the over-under right now is like 54.
So pick a number that is the threshold for a boring game.
45.
45.
So if we hit the under on 45, that's officially not as fun as we wanted to be.
Okay.
Sure.
I'm more saying that we're going to watch and we will be collectively just kind of like slowly,
let out our breath throughout the game.
All right.
That's my bold take.
Wow, I thought that would
rile you guys up a little bit more.
It's bold, but you should have come at us
with a number.
Just saying it's going to be boring.
It's kind of hard to be out to.
It's unquant-fying.
You want a number.
I was like, Jeff Driscoll's going to be
better than Drew Locke.
He'll score better than Drew Locke's
will ever do in his entire life,
but I figured that this was a little more exciting.
Anyway.
All right, so let's, let's quickly draft these.
So, DK won last week,
so DK, you should get first pick.
Oh, is that we're doing it?
We're not doing trivia?
Oh, what?
like we just pick how tall is a
how higher clouds up in the sky
and then we figure it out.
Where is Jeff Driscoll from?
Okay, let's see.
Hyfitz, to recap, let's see.
I'm going to pick Lockett as a top five receiver.
I like that one a lot.
That one's the least guttiest.
Yep.
Sorry.
Highfitz.
Shameless Homer.
All right.
So I'm going to put DK's initials,
Lockett top five.
So who's up next?
Me or you, Hyfitz.
Me, since you asked.
Okay.
I want, I definitely want,
Tayson Hill Week. I don't know if this is going to happen.
But when he said Taseem Hill Week, that just got my blood going.
Thank you. That's a three point. Remember, the bolds are worth three, the guts are worth one.
Okay, so I got two here. I'm going to pick, I'm definitely going Kenyon Drake, top five.
I love that one. I think that's going to hit. Top five, top five.
And then, man, what else do I want here? I'll take Logan Thomas, top six tight end.
Cool. I'm not confident. I don't know why I feel better about that one. And there's just too many good
players and the Cowboys for Cidiam to be the best player on the team that week.
That's fair.
I like Josh Kelly be a top 15 back.
Even though Alan Robinson is obviously like a safer play and that's obviously more likely
to Ellen Robinson get 20 fantasy points.
I actually kind of like Josh Kelly.
Yeah.
I just want to roll with that.
I respect it.
All right.
He's good.
Good call, Craig.
Well, you better get it right.
All right, D.K.
Yeah, I'm debating between, uh, between high fits this bold call of the under for 45 for
Chiefs Ravens.
I'm going, since Drew Sample's a U-Dub guy,
I'm going through sample.
Top seven tight-in.
So you picked a Seahawks.
You picked a Seattle Seahawk
and a U-Dub Husky
and your two picks.
The all-Homer, the all-Homer version.
The Travis Homer,
the Travis Homer draft.
Forget Will Disley, you're Travis Homer.
I went to U-Dub for one year,
so I get to pick my freaking U-Dub guy.
How was your year?
It was good.
I transferred away.
I do have a fond affection
for U-Dub, though.
Huskies is
Huskies is weird mascot
because our mascot's supposed to be cute
or like fearsome
because huskies are adorable
They're both
They're both
I feel like masks
They have incredible endurance
Incredible endurance
Santa Barbara is
No Santa Cruz is the banana slugs
Did you know that
Yeah we all watch Pulp Fiction
Yeah we all knew that
Everyone knows that
Okay
Let's get into our million dollar lineup
For week three
Jesus
I'm just saying everyone
Who seen Pulp Fiction
knows about the banana slug thing
But seriously
million dollar, let's get our million dollar lineup for week three.
Every Friday, we are going to make a Fandul Daily Fantasy lineup.
We're going to play for a million dollars.
We're not trying to like dink and dunk here.
We're trying to make a million dollars a week.
The year I turned 26 as the head of my own brokerage firm, I made $49 million,
which really pissed me off because it was three shy of a million a week.
Now last week, we did not.
Can we win a million?
No, we did not.
We were a little...
I forgot to ask.
Just a little bit outside.
I forgot to ask.
Can you imagine Hyvin's holding it until now?
He's like, guys, we won.
We actually did win.
Save it for the pod, guys.
Yeah.
Save it for the pod, guys. Yeah.
We were right.
I think that the players who failed us were wrong.
Is that fair to say?
Right.
Yeah.
So if we do the blame game here,
these are the guys in our burn book,
if we're in the movie Mean Girls.
We are adding Quintes Cephys, Ronald Jones,
the fumbler, Mark Andrews, the
disappearer, and Michael Gallup,
who's suddenly the worst receiver on the Cowboys.
Can we just call Ronald Jones the fumbler
now? We only got four of our nine people
sucked, so that's not good.
Well, if we had CD, well, D.K. wanted to do
Cid instead of Gallup, but I talked to me to Gallup,
so sorry, now we're doing CED. All right, but let's
go through, we have another lineup, which, you know,
last one didn't win, but this one, guaranteed
really, really, you know. We're going to come in first
out of the 700,000 entries in
this tournament, and there's no doubt,
my mind's about it. So, Craig, take us through this line of its start.
All right. So our quarterback this week is going to be Mitchell Trubisky playing the Falcons who
the Falcons are the best fantasy team for every reason. They're just the best team to play against.
The receivers are amazing. They're the best team to watch. The games are always nuts.
Well, no, we're galaxy branding there. We're basically saying Mitch is cheap. He's, you know,
he's funding the rest of our roster with the discount on him. Who knows why there's a discount
of Mitchell Chubisky. Look, he's squarely in the, in the, in the, in the,
Blake Bortle's tier of bad real-life quarterbacks who are good at fantasy.
Yeah.
Speaking of, Bortals, just got signed by the Broncos.
Anyway, so at our running back, we have our only dilemma of the lineup, which we're going to discuss.
We're debating Jonathan Taylor or Kenyon Drake.
And Kenyon Drake was a bold prediction by high fits, but Danny Kelly was kind of feeling
Jonathan Taylor against the Jets this week.
We've got to hash this out.
So the first play from Scrimmage last week, Rahim Moster ran
directly into the end zone from the 25-yard line.
That's the only thing I'm going to say against the Jets.
Just FYI.
You know what?
I really wanted Kenyon Drake in this lineup,
but if you're invoking the jets aren't trying,
I also saw something with the former,
who was the Sealk who got traded to the Jets for the Jamal Adams trade?
Bradley McDougald.
And he was saying that the jets aren't very intense in practice.
And they already had to clarify the comments,
but he's just like, oh, yeah,
like we don't really practice very well.
Losing a guy like Jamal Adams, that kind of makes sense.
Dude, it's the most intense person I've ever seen my life.
Fine, fine.
We can go Jonathan Taylor, even though I really like,
I like Kenyon Drake this week, but yeah, the Jets suck.
All right, so we'll go Jonathan Taylor as our first running back.
Our second running back is Miles Sanders and the Eagles.
Our three receivers, DeAndre Hopkins,
who just can't miss, and we sure missed in the offseason.
Alan Robinson, who we are pairing with old Mitch Trubisky,
like wine and cheese this week.
We think they're really going to do something good.
against the Falcons. But like Franzya and like craft singles. It's like slap in the bag,
you know, bag wine. Well, Trubisky's the bag wine. Alan Robinson's like a really nice cheese.
Would you guys rather have bad wine and good cheese or good wine and bad cheese? Never want bad cheese.
You never want bad cheese. Yeah, bad wine and good cheese. You can drink bad wine. You can't eat bad
cheese. There you go. Trubiske's the Francia and Alan Robinson's really great cheese. So yeah,
our receivers, DeAndjandro Hopkins, Alan Robinson and D.K's boy, Cidie Lamb. A tied end. We're going with
Logan Thomas and
we're going with Austin Echler at Flex
thinking of this now I mean if you guys like my
gut prediction enough we should swap him for Josh
Kelly but I mean that would make more
sense with the theme of the show if you think
it's too gutsy though I mean
definitely cheaper but if you think it's too gutsy
700,000 entries I don't think
gutsy's a problem like we're trying to
like the odds of it
are almost like the odds of hearing a B flat
in a black hole it's just it's
it's really you're fighting against the
tides of gravity itself what have I just made the
intro music this week. There's no song. It's just a B flat. B flat. Yeah, just do it.
So we go with, we go with Echler or Kelly? If we go with Kelly, we're going to have like a
thousand dollars left over. It's a gut call for a reason. It doesn't necessarily mean it's likely
to happen. Let's do Kelly. Screw it. All right, let's do Kelly. We're going to celebrate the
name Kelly this week. Watch us would have won the million if we had played Austin Eccler.
That would be extremely. I fit secretly put both in. Oh, that's a good idea. We'll just
I don't tell anyone.
Well, we just said it on the podcast, but okay.
And then last one, rounding at our defensive pick,
we're taking the Steelers against the beat-up,
shitty O-lined Houston Texans.
Dude, he's going to get sacked like 12 times.
Yeah.
And by he, I mean, Deshaun Watson.
This is the Watt family reunion.
This is J.J. TJ and Derek all in the same game
for the first time in their lives.
Wow.
Holy shit.
That's crazy.
Derek is like the Cooper Manning of this decade.
It's a shame.
We don't have a subway ad.
today since it's the Watt Bowl. I don't know if you've seen those commercials. Do they? I thought
Bill Belichick was the one with the commercials. No, the Watts have a whole subway commercial.
They do? Yeah, the whole family. You haven't seen that? No. Oh, yeah. It's actually not bad. Is Derek Watt in it?
Yeah, all three of them are in it. Is that like how Cooper Manning was in that sports center commercial,
but he didn't have any lines? Yeah, and their mom is in it too. And they're dead as well,
the whole fam. Oh, that's cute. Well, good for them. All right. Well, one of them's going to harass
the other's co-worker. So that's tough. But, okay, so that's true. So that's true.
Bisckey, Jonathan Taylor, which I wanted to
Ken you Drake, Miles Sanders, DeAndre Hopkins,
Alan Robbins, and C.D. Lamb, Logan Thomas,
Josh Kelly and
the Pittsburgh Steelers.
All right, what do you guys want to do with the million dollars?
I want to, like, see if we can
go see a black hole. That'd be fun, right?
Dude, we'll invest it in the black hole research.
That's a really good cause.
Yeah. Because the black hole's
enveloping all of us right now in society.
So, great. Thank you, Craig.
Thank you, D.K. Thank you to everyone for
listening.
See you guys next week.
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