The Ringer NFL Show - Week 3 Recap: Dalton Is Back, Hot Coaches Dominate, and Jauan Drops 40

Episode Date: September 23, 2024

The guys recap all the Week 3 action by going through some categories, such as “Who won Week 3?,” “Play of the Day,” and “Fart or Shart” (1:11). Then, they add a name to the Fantasy Burn Book (1:19:33). Who won Week 3? (9:56) Who lost Week 3? (23:40) The Oppenheimer Award (28:50) It’s So Over/We’re So Back (35:16) Play of the Day (50:33) Worst Play of the Day (54:22) They’re Real and They’re Spectacular (56:14) The Arthur Smith Award (1:01:28) Fart or Shart (1:03:19) Worst Ref Moment (1:08:39) Fraud Watch (1:09:58) Lucille Bluth Award (1:11:03) Intrusive Thoughts (1:12:20) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producers: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Borebeck, and we are going over all of the week three games that are done so far because there's two on Monday Night Football still to come. We just watched the Chiefs beat the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday football. The Chiefs just won 22 to 17. DK. Yeah. Where are you on the Chiefs get all the calls?

Discourse. Well, that would have been pretty egregious because you're talking about the Kyle Pitts pass interference in the end zone, I presume. Yeah, you know, that one has been called all day as a flag on the defense. That was a clear foul, but then on the next drive, the Chiefs had two tiki-tack calls go against them, so I felt like it kind of evened out. And then the Falcons got another chance, and they didn't capitalize. So I feel like everything is fine. We don't have to worry about that too much. Bill Barnwell at ESPN did this massive thread

responding to all the Bengals fans who were upset claiming that Mahomes got all these calls. And he went and did all the research and looked back at all of the penalties that have negated plays for Mahomes, help Mahomes and Burrough and all this stuff. And he found out that Burrough actually gets more calls than Mahomes. Be careful what you wish for in terms of like people ask you.

Yeah, exactly. Don't fact check me. That's like my caveat with everything I say pretty much. Don't fact check that. So yeah, She's won 22 to 17. There are a lot of parts of this game that were interesting. To tell you the truth, I don't know what you guys want to talk about of this.

I kind of can't stop thinking that Carson Steele's entire family was at Carson Steele's sister's wedding. And they were watching this game on eight giant television screens at his sister's wedding. It's kind of all I can think about. Do you think they thought he wasn't going to make an NFL team, which is why they planned the wedding in the fall? That's harsh. They planned it on a Sunday.

It's his sister. They definitely thought he would not make an NFL team. Maybe just like, like just be safe. Play it safe. Do it on a Saturday. Dude, I feel like fall weddings are already like a little contentious

because people like watching football. Her brother plays football and they scheduled it on a Sunday. He's the starter. He's starting the game. They clearly thought this would never happen. Yeah. My brother got married on game four of the finals against the Celtics. And that turned down.

to be great. So sometimes it's awesome. And it was tonight maybe for them. I don't know. Good story. I guess. Yeah. So anyway, so cross the steel. Yeah. So the chiefs the chiefs want, I do think the chiefs just have the Patriots horseshoe up their ass. Frankly, I think what a lot of people interpret

is luck or whatever. I think frankly, teams really want to beat the fucking chiefs and teams get really nervous. I think coaches get nervous. I think everyone gets a little tight pucker factor when you're like, oh my God, we really could do it. And then everyone, it's just kind of like going against Brady and the Patriots where when you

you tell yourself a week, we're going to do it. And then you go on it and you go hard. And then you're actually, and then you're actually winning the game or have a chance to win at the end. And just people get a little tight. And the Patriots were there before. Brady had been there before.

And I just think that's the Chiefs. Like they're really, like they're able to beat people with their A game and their B game and their B minus game. Yeah. It helps that they're always on prime time. Like it feels like the Chiefs, like their home court is just Sunday night football.

And then every week is like a new team coming to visit them on prime time. They probably have twice the amount of prime time games as any other team. So they're just, and plus all the playoffs in the Super Bowl. So they're just like 10 times more comfortable under the spotlight as all these other teams. Yeah.

D. Kiddke, do you think I'm reading too much into it? Because I look at like the Falcons of Zach Robinson, who's, you know, the offensive coordinator for Atlanta. And I think sometimes like we forget, these people are just people.

Right. You know what I mean? And like Zach, you know, they call, it was fourth in inches and they break my cardinal rule. You start going sideways. Like that,

you know, they run wide zone out, you know, so Bejan Robinson. is in the backfield with Tyler Algier and like the two running backs are there and then Tyler Alger basically becomes the lead blocker

for Bijjan Robinson, which sounds like such a sick idea when you're playing Madden or college football 25 like, oh, I'll make my bullback a running back and then I'll have two. But then guess what? Tyler L.G.R. should have blocked Nick Bolton on that last play and he just ran right by him because Tyler L.Gio isn't trained to look for a fucking linebacker on fourth and inches

and so then they lost three yards. And I'm like, you know what? Maybe they should have called a play where your fullback was a fucking fullback. But you don't know. I don't know. I don't think you're overthinking it. I do think there is something to like the mystique. They're two times back-to-back champions.

Like, you know, they have this mental edge on everybody else. And especially late in games just because Mahomes has done it so many times. It's like, Hi, Fitz, I've mentioned this to you in the past, like the Alexander the great thing. He had like this aura among his soldiers where they literally didn't think he could be killed. He was like a god to them. And that, like, changes the, it changes the strategy in a battle and things like that. And I think, like, Mahomes has that sort of mystique or whatever. And I think that that definitely helps in the end of games.

They just have the confidence that they're going to come through. But at the same time, it's like you can look at that fourth down play. You can look at a couple of the throws late in the game where it didn't really feel like Cousins was able to drive the ball as much as he should have. Or you kind of like just flicked it up instead of driving it into his receiver. There's a couple, like, there was probably five or six plays down the stretch where you could have pointed to. like if they would have made that play, they would have won. What made you think that was it? The one where he bounced the ball to Drake London on the fourth down in the end zone?

Kirk's arm has no juice. He has no zip on the ball. He's just throwing up ducks. And also why is their entire offense just throwing screen passes to Darnell Mooney? I know that was like just, what are we doing here? They have Peshaired Robinson, Drake London and Kyle Pitts. They're obsessed getting the ball with Darnell Mooney who weighs like a buck 80. I actually, I actually think the reason is because like the screens happen every time

you can visibly see Kirk not have enough zip on the ball. And I think that they do the screens because they, when they see he doesn't have zip on the ball. And they're like, damn, I bet they know we're going to do a screen. Well, I bet they won't think we're going to throw it to Darnell Moody. And then it gets negative one yards. I think that that's the process. They do the screen, they always go back to the screen when he doesn't have enough Jesus on the ball. Yeah, it's not ideal.

Also, how weird was that that stat they showed Craig that Justin Simmons has intercepted Mahomes in four straight games? four straight games six times in his career. This guy's got his number a little bit. They said the six picks as in the most any active player has against an active player. The idea that that would be against Mahomes is kind of insane instead of like Will Levis. Yeah, Collinsworth made a great point at why Justin Simmons

is so good at it. He just like, you know, all DBs have to do this, but like you pretend the guys open while giving yourself just enough space to like jump back and cover him when the ball is thrown. And on that pick, he kind of disguised it where he made it seem as though, I forget the receiver on the Chiefs was open in the end zone.

Justin Simmons was kind of hiding, popped up, stole the ball. Nice play. If only the entire Falcons could do that. They need 11 Justin Simmons, I guess. Build the entire defense out of that play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This reminds me, like, last week at some point, Ed Reed, former Ravens, Ed Reed, did an interview where he said that Mahomes has weaknesses that are easy to figure out.

Oh, sure. I would say that the second I retired as well. Yeah, yeah. Dude, no, if anyone in the world could tweet that, And I'm just like, I bet that's real. It's Ed Reed. Give me a break. Dude.

Ed Reed. Fuck. No, dude. He's the, no. Ed Reed's the only guy I can say that. The best part about Ed Reed's saying is we'll never know. You think Mahm says easy tells? No,

to Ed Reed, they're easy. I think that that means to everyone, but five people of the world, they wouldn't be able to pull it off. Somebody should hire Ed Reed then. Dude, Bill Belichick's thing on like how Ed Reed was the smartest player he ever coached

against because him and Brady were watching the clip before he fucked with Peyton Manning. By like he played a play wrong. to cover a player and then he just like turned blind and sprinted across like from numbers to the other set of numbers to pick anyway. Ed reads the man. I also, I haven't told you about this yet, but I want before we leave this game, this Chief Salkins game, I want to just mention so the Falcons owner Art Blank inducted himself into the Falcons ring of honor tonight. And so I want to let you guys know I will be inducting myself into the ringer fantasy football ring of honor.

The ringer of honor. The ringer of honor. Yeah, I'm going to be inducting myself tonight on this show. I just want to be your heads up. That's awesome. I'm super happy for you. This is like the whole rich people hire themselves to do stuff thing. Oh, yeah. Ryan Reynolds says a production company, like a marketing firm.

I just want an ad agency to make ads for his own companies. Yeah. Taylor Sheridan making you film Yellowstone on his ranch. Yeah. Art Blake. It's like, oh, that's so weird how like Home Depot built the stadium. That's crazy. I don't think they actually did, but I bet they did.

it. Yeah, that's good. I also think they inducted Matt Ryan tonight. They didn't really mention that, though. Just start blank. Good for Matt. Anyway, all right. Yeah. So, congratulations to me. Okay, let's get into a bunch of other stuff that happened. Let's go through a bunch of categories. DK. Yo. Who won week one? For me, Matt Lafleur, I think. The way that he has been able to manipulate the offense with basically zero time to prepare with Malik Willis has been nothing short of incredible. I've just been really, really impressed with them. I think all the hot coach is one, to be totally honestly. I think Matt LaFleur is a hot coach. Kevin O'Connell's a hot coach. I think the hot coach is... Like hot, figuratively and literally.

Literally, like Hansel's so hot right now, Hansel, but also they're hot and they're smart. And frankly, there's no ceiling on what you can do when someone's hot and smart. Great's kind of hot and smart. His career is going great. It really is the double whammy. You don't see it often, you know? It's why billionaire, if billionaires were hot, they probably wouldn't become billionaires. It's rare that you find both. Do you count Dave Canales is hot and smart?

Who won? I think Dave Canales is hot. Oh, there you go. We'll see if he's smart. Dave Canales is hot in the way that, you know, those guys on like TikTok? And it's just like they wake up, cold plunge, then they journal, then they have wheatgrass. And their entire day is planned like to a tea. And then day two starts at T.

10 a.m. Yeah, they look good, but it's like too good, actually. Like, it's a little robotic. That's how Canales looks. His shirts are so tight. He looks like a kind of like a Ken doll a little bit. You want your coaches to be a little bit like slobby or sloppy? Yeah, I don't want to, I don't want my coach to put too much effort into their looks before the game. Well, I thought that, I used to think that, but you know, Matt Lafleur's eyebrows probably get an hour of work every day and they're doing great. So like between three-bay. Matt LaFleur has like an impeccably trimmed beard. Yeah, he does. It's true. Yeah. But then I look at Kevin. O'Connell for the Vikings. So the Vikings beat the Texans 34 to 7. The Vikings are 3 and

Sam Donald. Sam Donald leads the NFL in touchdown passes, eight touchdown passes in three games. I saw this from ESPN. Minnesota has a plus 55 margin of victory this season, which is the most through three games in the second most three games in the history of the Vikings franchise. Only the 1975 Vikings had a better point differential through three games. And so I look at I'm just like, like the fact that Kevin O'Connell is doing this with Sam Darnold. Matt LaFleur for the Packers is doing this with Malik Willis. And I just feel like coaching, like the, I think the biggest story of the season to date. And we can get more in these games specifically, but I really do think the biggest story

this season to date is what coaches are able to do with quarterbacks. Like, you know, like for the, like of Green Bay, honestly, I think if you had anonymously polled a lot of offensive play callers and coaches. NFL and they and asked them, who's the worst quarterback on a roster? I think a lot of them would have said Malik Willis. And the fact that Matt LaFleur just went two and O with Malik Willis, I don't know. It makes me think like really poorly of a lot of coaches, frankly, but I don't know. The ones that are hot and smart, you got to watch out. Tosson, Tosson Sean McVey. Also, I mean, he had Matt Stafford, but the rest of his team was like a JV squad in high school. No

receivers, offensive lines decimated. The defense isn't very good. It's crazy that Matt LaFleur is Oh and one with Jordan Love, two and O with Malik Willis. I know, right? We were literally questioning, like, the wisdom of the fact that the Packers didn't have a quote-unquote starter on their roster. And that was based on the history of what Malik Willis had done his career. Like, nothing that he had done had looked even remotely like this guy is going to win us a game. And the idea have, the idea with your backup quarterback is like, let's survive until our starter gets back. And I thought that Malik Willis has looked extremely comfortable.

Like, it's actually wild how good he's been. He's even been good on third downs. I was looking at this earlier today. On third downs over the last two weeks, Malik Willis is 12 of 17, 190 yards, a touchdown, 11 yards per attempt, just one sack. He's scrambled five times for 55 yards. He has a 56% success rate,

which is second best among all quarterbacks in that stretch on third downs. His EPA per driveback on third downs is best in the NFL. Just today, he had a 30-yard completion on a third and six to Christian Watson. He had a eight-yard scramble on third and seven. He had an 18-yard pass to Romeo Dobbs on third and 14 and a 37-yarder to Christian Watson on third and 18. So he converted a 13-13 and 13-18 with like bombs down the field. Like this guy is playing out of his mind.

I don't know what's happening. I don't know how they're doing this, but it's been truly incredible. And again, I want to reiterate, Matt Lafleur is now 58 and 28 and six seasons. That's behind only Jim Harbaugh among active coaches and winning percentage. We need to be talking about this guy as like Sean McVeigh. not like one of his protegees or whatever. Like he has been incredible. And it's six years, now over six years.

Can't win the big one. But I guess you're right. Like we, we annoy Chanahan as this, you know, all-knowing play caller. We don't put Matt LaFleur in that category, neither than my Super Bowl rings.

I gotta tell you. Craig, you text this to us in the middle of the day and I've been thinking about it all day. Do you think Matt LaFleur is just straight-up actually a better coach at this point than Kyle Shanahan? I feel like people are going to get so upset about that. Everybody is so certain.

that Shanahan is the number one play caller in the NFL. I think what's hard about it is the Niners are just simply more talented. Their players are just way better. So it's hard to know what Shanahan is really capable of when they don't have all this talent. I know they made a Super Bowl with Jimmy G. And that's certainly an accomplishment. But, you know, Malik Willis, what McVeigh is doing every year with these teams, part of me thinks that these coaches like LaFleur and McVeigh,

these masterminds almost enjoy a little bit having like a like a like a under manned squad because it allows them to be like yeah it's like fuck you I'll show you how creative I am it's like boring to have Mahomes you know it's like I want a woman Malik Willis I can let me show you what I'm really capable of yeah it's the

I can fix them yeah it's okay right right right no I do when so the Rams I mean I know we're bouncing all over but the you mentioned McVeigh and Shanahan but it's like the Rams beat Shanahan today in the 49ers and oh my God that game I mean it was So the Rams won what, 27, 24 on like a walk-off field goal.

It was 24. I mean, the Rams were down 10 points with two minutes and change left. Like the Niners missed a field goal to go up, back up 13, I think. And then the Rams came down and scored twice in under two minutes. He's throwing a 2-2 Atwell and Tyler Johnson down the sideline. Colby Parkinson. Kyle Shannon looked shell-shocked. Whittington, some guy named Whittington.

They did it. Yeah, to Marcus Robinson, yeah. They did a flea flicker. Like, but like the photo of Kyle Shanahan talking to Sean McVeigh where, you know, for all this stuff last week of like, oh, C.J. Stroud, like Big Brother and Caleb Williams. It was like, Sean McVeigh, big brother, Kyle Shannon. Sean McVe was like, I'm so sorry, beat you, dude. That was the sucked and, like got out of there at midfield.

Sean McVeigh, O and two with Cooper Cup and or Pooka Nukua, one and no without them. Makes you think. Yeah, there you go. I think good players are the problem. That's probably it. These coaches are too good for their good players. They need bad players so that they can do whatever they want. They have to give the ball to their good players when they're on the field.

When they don't have any good players, then they can really scheme it up. Us fantasy guys just constantly bitching about who they're throwing the ball to, yeah. Yeah. My winner of the day, I want to stick with the coaches. My winner of the day is Brian Flores, the defensive coordinator for the Vikings, who are one of five undefeated teams in the league. They beat the shit out of the Texans, 34 to 7. This game was never close.

Immediately you knew the Vikings are going to win. The offense look great, but defensively do. Stroud looked terrible. Statistically, this is pretty much of the second worst game of his career. He had two picks today. They were a mess.

They had 11 penalties. The Texans in general have had tons of penalties this year. They look very undisciplined. He was pressured a lot. Flores is, to me, you know, the way you feel about

La Flores on offense, D.K., we should feel about Flores. Defensively. La Flores. LaFlores. That's good. I mean, they've beaten, they're obviously three,

no, they beat the Giants. They stymied the Niners last week at home, and now they gave CJ Stroud the second worst game of his career. Yeah, at one point, so sorry, the Houston had seven total points in this game, 14 rushes for 38 yards. Yeah. Stroud 68 pass rating two picks.

Well, I guess it wasn't key because they're getting, you know, they're getting blown out, but it was key for the Texas to not get embarrassed. They had four straight pre-snap penalties. Like, I think it was, I think it was literally, three false starts.

On Laramie Tonsil and then Juice Scruggs and yeah. It was like the ugliest sequence I've ever seen in my life. Is that a record? Four straight pre-snapsed. I don't remember. I think the old record, DK, do you remember the Giants played the Seahawks in like 2005?

And the Giants, the... No, I don't remember that. Well, the Giants had... How do you remind me that high fix? You were 10. Because the Giants set like the modern record for flags, but I think the Giants had like four false starts in like two plays.

God, it was so gross. But it reminded me of that in that it was, I couldn't decide if the Texans were just like really rattled or the rest were trying to take over the game, frankly, maybe a little port kind of los dose. But yeah, it was, I mean, a lot of people have picked the Texans to go to the Super Bowl and the Texans looked like an FCS team playing at Georgia.

Like, it was like an un-quite literally like it's an unprofessional operation of four. There were pre-step flags too. But the, you know, I saw this to me, spin two, which blew my mind. So your point about Flores, Craig. The Vikings defense is, I said that like Chris Collinsworth, pass rush. Defense.

Defense. Defense. You know, it's funny. Matt Bellany, the host of the town podcast, text to me, and he was like, I'm watching Sunday night football. I usually don't watch because I'm typically working Sunday nights, but now he moved his newsletter to Monday nights. And he was like, why is Chris Collinsworth so obsessed with Patrick Mahomes?

He can't stop talking about him and he hasn't thrown a touchdown yet. And I was like, oh, that's, that's his thing. that's just, that's who Chris Collinsworth is. He just, like, is in love with everybody, and that's the way that he keeps the game entertaining. Here's a guy. Yeah, he's like, I just love what Xavier Worth is doing, Mike. He's gotten one catch.

Anyway, sorry, go back to what you're saying. The past rush, no. So the Vikings defense, this is for me to spend. The Vikings defense is the third unit in the NFL's modern era to record five sacks and at least one pick in each of the first three games of the season. Damn. That's pretty crazy.

They play the Niners and then C.J. Strav. That's the thing. Yeah, it's not like some of these teams where they're like, oh, they do all this. And it's like, all right, like the Saints. I mean, the Saints, well, they played terribly today. But it's like the Saints racked out up against like the Panthers in week one. And it's like, yeah, they were playing good teams.

So I, you know, so it's really impressive. And again, to button this all up with La Flores, Vikings play the Packers this week. Ooh, so we're going to get Flores. Wow. This is going great. Brian Flores, he might be an asshole, but man, that guy's a good defensive coach.

Might be mean to his players, but man. Yeah, that was referenced to Tua, just calling him bad person. Maybe he was right. Maybe Flores was right. I don't know. Well, you know, this coach is dangerous and inconvenient, but I sure do love Ryan Flores. Look, sometimes tough love is what you need.

Vikings are at the Packers next week, and this spread is Packers giving two and a half points. It's giving two and a half? Yeah, Packers. It's just like Packers are home. Basically, it's even almost. I was trying to speak in Gen Z terms. I was like, the game is, they're giving two and a half.

Do you know how? Yeah, I got that. I got that. Nobody gets it. I missed. Do you not know what that is? No, I have no idea. You don't know, like, you've never heard somebody say, it's giving.

I asked Kai what that meant the other day. It's giving, like, somebody said like, it's giving 90s. You wouldn't know what you don't know what that means? Oh, yeah, yeah. I guess I've seen that on the internet, but I don't think I've ever heard someone say it out loud. Oh, interesting. I feel like I only hear people say it more. than I do read it.

I just, I text Kyle. This is giving awkward. Zumer slang and he explains it to me. He's your urban dictionary for Zuber Translaker. Zumer Translator is a fucking amazing idea. Dude, you've seen the teachers who have like all the band words on their whiteboards in school.

It's like Ohio, mewing. What is Ohio again? Skibbidi. I don't, Skibody. I don't know what Ohio is. Ohio's the one I can't remember.

It's like a derogatory phrase when they say like go to Ohio. Oh, okay. It's like the let's go brandon of nouns or whatever. I don't know. I'm going to know. What is Skibbitty mean? It looks uncomfortable. No, it's not like that.

Oh, it's God. It's not like really bad, right? I mean, that's a state. No, no, it's fine. What is Skibbitty mean? I just don't know it's a toilet, but I don't know what it is beyond the toilet. There's like a whole,

have you seen the whole, like, digital series about the Skibbitty toilet thing? There's like a whole web series that's like dozens and dozens of episodes. I've watched a lot. of it. It's actually pretty good. A whole web series about the Skibbitty thing. It's just like Madlips for this generation. There's like, they're minute long episodes. There's like probably 60

at this point. This guy makes them and it's awesome. It's kind of like about this dystopian world of like toilets versus the modern technology. It's really, it's actually good. Oh, okay. Dude, this guy, Tim Urban is a really, really smart guy. We're talking about how language changes a lot. Basically, he's like if you're just like in a hundred years ago

if you go back and you just tell someone yeah, man, like just click on the thumbnail for the Skibbitty toilet. And his point was like over the course. It only takes a thousand years for language to be a completely different language because of shit like that. And it's happening faster than ever. Anyway,

what the fuck we're talking about? Other winners of the week, the hockey young coach is won. Losers, D.K., who lost week one? Well, everyone who said that Bryce Young never stood a chance in this Panthers office and

that they set him up to fail. Andy Dalton looked like the next coming of like Tom Brady in this game. It was like incredible. The Panthers. beat the Raiders, 36 to 22, Andy Dalton. I want to say he had three touchdowns in the first half. He came out hot. Came out of Ohio.

Yeah, totally. Skibbitty. He was giving, no, I don't know. He was giving Tom Brady. Yeah. No, I think it's like it immediately just like slammed the door on the idea that like Bryce Young was set up to fail or that he just, you know, needed this that or the other to succeed.

Like, this is the Joe Flacco thing that Joe Flacco came in last year for Dishon Watson and like the offense was absolutely transformed. And Andy Dalton did the exact same thing here. Like this has to give, you know, Panthers fans absolutely no hope that Bryce Young will ever be anything in this offense. So anyway, but he was awesome and unlocked, obviously, the Panthers offense. Deontzae Johnson looked great in this game. Dalton has thrown, he threw for more yards than Young has ever thrown in a game.

Bryce Young only has one 300-yard game in his career. Bryce Young has 10 out of his 18 games. He had zero touchdowns. Andy Dalton came in and had three. That would have been that match Bryce Young's career high, which is just one time. And Andy Dalton was the first quarterback to throw for 300 yards and three touchdowns to the game this season. Yeah, Andy Dalton. God, ridiculous.

Do you think one, do you think this was the worst day of the worst day of, Bryce Young's career, like worse than any game he played. I think this might be worse. This is like when you go on, like you go on leave, you have a kid or something happened. You leave work for four months and you're like, there could be a mess without me. And you come back and you realize that you weren't really that needed at all. And in fact, the company's actually working better than you. Yeah. It's actually better without you. And you realize, wow, I'm making a lot of money and they don't need me anymore. This might have been the worst, this might have been the worst game of Bryce Young's career. For sure.

Also, maybe any Dalton should just be a starting quarterback. Two years ago on the Saints, he was actually pretty good. I think he was like top five in PFF rating that year. Last year he played one game on the Panthers, and it was the most passing yards of Panthers quarterback has had in the last 65 games. Then he plays one game, they sure those are 360. Maybe we just gave up on Dalton too early, and he should be a quarterback. Yeah, and it's because teams are so obsessed with, like,

finding the rookie contract quarterback who can unlock your Super Bowl potential. or whatever, instead of finding guys. Like, I think, is he that different skill set-wise than like a Baker-Mayfield? Or like a Derek Carr. Yeah, Derek Carr is another great one. Like, if a team decided to, I think Dalton's a little, he's getting too old for this to happen, obviously. But if a team was like committed to him, like the Buccaneers are committed to Mayfield or the Saints are with Derek Carr, like, I think you could have a pretty good year. I know.

Like, the Falcons gave Kurt Cousins $100 million guaranteed. Is he that much better than Andy Dalton right now? coming off in Achilles? I mean, Dalton will probably have an awful game next week. I'm saying the Falcons gave Kirk Cousins

100 million guaranteed. Is Andy Dalton that much worse than Achilles, Kirk? But that's the fucking point. Like, no one knows fucking anything because it's like,

Sam Donald was signed for $10 million this loss season. Andy Dalton signed last year for five million a year for two years. And then you, you know what I mean?

It's like, Malik Willis was a seventh round pick. Again, nobody even wanted. I still don't think Malik Willis is good for the record. He's not good. That's the point.

It's, It's having a, and that's where, look, I'm not a billionaire for a lot of reasons, but also if I even had a billion dollars, like, I think that a lot of these billionaire coaches are like, won't think this way. But the biggest loophole in competitiveness, I always think has been coaching and like paying coaches money. And I think it's so funny that it's not salary capped, but then you have days like today and my takeaway is, holy fuck, some of these coaches are so much more valuable than the

other coaches. It's crazy to think how similar are there. Like, you know, it's insane to think that Belichick was even, within, it was only making double what some of these other coaches were making. You know what I mean? And so, like, today we're like, Matt Lafleur, what is Matt LaFleur really worth? If he can take Malik Willis, who's making, what's Malik Willis making like $900,000 a year? And he made it, he outplayed people making $40 million a year.

And you're like, what is the value of that? Fucking a lot. And so, yeah, they would probably save a shitload of money on all these contracts and all these quarterbacks if you just got coaches who could actually coach. Back to this, Panthers. Guess who the Panthers play next week? Revenge game, baby. The Bengals.

Does Dalton want to get revenge against Cincinnati? I feel like he had a nice career there. Yeah, it's kind of like Malik Willis. Just like his former team. Maybe positivity's back because Malik Willis literally was like, it's not a revenge game. They took a huge chance on me, and I really appreciate everything they did for me over in Tennessee.

And then he kicked their fucking ass. Yeah. It's not back in Minnesota, though. Flores is just berating people over there. And it's working. Yeah. Two different styles. Two different styles.

Yeah. All right. Next up. The I am become death Oppenheimer Award for the player who went nuclear. Craig, only one guy. It means become death this week. My goodness. Jawan Jennings went absolutely sicko mode for the Niners today. Imagine having Brandon Ayuk on your fantasy team. Being like, Debo's out, kiddles out, like this is it. Iukes finally warm. He held out all summer. 11 catches 175 yards, three touchdowns for Joanne Jennings. It was literally unstoppable the entire game.

had like five contested catches, went up and like moths somebody in the fourth quarter. He had 41 fantasy points, the biggest game of the season for any wide receiver, second best fantasy day of the season for any player only behind Alvin Camarrow. Dude, it's like the fifth best guy in the fantasy performance in the history of the 49ers. This would have been the fifth best day of Jerry Rice's career. Wow. Well, yeah, I mean, he had 175 yards three touchdowns. Dude, you know Juan Jennings his second receiving yards this season, period?

this is yeah i love i love these small sample early season stats like that it's hilarious like top five yeah um man juan jennings he's amazing he remains the best man the best six man in the NBA in my opinion he's just like so he's so good at just coming off the bench whenever they need him like robert o're coming in need you nal three to win the game like the jamaul croffert award i know he's not in the NBA by the way but um but yeah dude he's he's really good i like him a lot. I did not see this coming at all. You guys were like talking to me earlier this week

about like is Juan Jennings like the pickup of the week? And I was like, I mean, I don't know. Like he'll probably be a part of the offense. But yeah, he obviously was. So 40 something points, 49 points, I think I saw. 41 and half PPR. Yeah. Not shabby. Not bad. Not bad. I was debating him or Quentin Johnson. I chose Juwan. Third and Juan. That's what I called that guy. Yeah. Yeah, we need to get him a unique name now that He has like 275 yards in the season. So come up with a new nickname. I kind of want to Photoshop Joanne Jennings into the Oppenheimer photo of just Oppenheimer and Einstein by the Bond.

Who would Einstein be then? No, I want him to be in the conversation with Oppenheimer. You know, like people Photoshop Ken from Barbie in to the conversation. I don't know those memes. I don't know if I've seen that. Really? Get Kai in here. Yeah, Kai goddamn.

Now, you guys know the whatever, the giving, but it's not, but you don't know this one? You know what? All right, I'm just going to go fucking walk into the sea. That sounds like one specific meme. Giving is like a whole broad category. I'm giving, but I'm not getting anything. Okay, fine. We'll fucking move on.

Anyway, my Oppenheimer is Malik Dabors. Yeah. Who is the only thing giving me joy is Malik Dabors and Seekwan. Seekwon, like, Seekwon, the only, like, I don't think I could handle Seqon season if it weren't for neighbors. So, I mean, Seekwon had 17 carries, 100. 42 yards and two touchdowns, nine yards of carry. And it's like, we kind of put the Eagles back in this game because he had that 65-yard

touchdown run. And then he got them a two-point conversion later. And the only reason I can handle this like a mature adult is because Malik Nabris is the best receiver the Giants have had since Odell Beckham. I think he looks better than O'Dell. I don't know if that's a recency bias, but when I watch him, I'm like, this is the best receiver I've ever seen on the Giants. I think it's probably recency byits, but like statistically, I think he is actually

better than O'Dell was through three games. Hi, Fitz, I saw somebody tweet this and I'm just delighted to bring it up on the show now because I think I like to bring up existential like dilemmas for you when it comes to the Giants. If Malik neighbors being this awesome means that it saves Daniel Jones's job in the long term, how does that make you feel? He can't keep getting away with this. No, it won't. It can't keep happening. It won't. They know.

They know. They know. They do. If anything, Malik Neighbors, what I love about him is that he is more likely to get Daniel Jones fired. Then they have, you know what I get? Like he's going to complain to ownership about it? No, dude, Malik Neighbors is unbelievable. To tell you the truth, I had really steeled my heart for the potential of Daniel Jones being in my life in 2025.

How good do you think the Giants would have to be for them to resell? signed Daniel Jones. Do you think if they made the NFC championship, they'd re-sign him? Yes. Wait, is he a free agent? They're going to cut him. Just keep him as what you're going to. I guess keep him, not resign. But you think they keep him if they make the NFC championship? What about they're a wildcard team? And they win round one. Been there. Done that. No. Okay. Okay. So we need an NFC championship.

Yes. I genuinely think that. I mean, dude, Malik Neighbors is one catch off the lead in the NFL right now. He's one catch behind Rishi Rice for the leading the league in the in catches. He's got to be up there in targets. He's the wide receiver one in fantasy right now. He literally, yeah, he literally leads the NFL target. He's the fifth over two, Juan Jennings. Fuck yeah. That's so awesome.

He's fifth in yards. Really silly. So, John Jennings is third in yards. Rishi Rice past him. So I saw a couple of stats that got thrown around today. Neighbors was, is the first player in NFL history with 20 receptions and three receiving touchdowns in their first three games, according to ESPN stats and info. And then here's the receivers in NFL.

that have recorded 35 plus targets and 250 plus receiving yards in their first three games. Anquan Bolden, Pooka, and Malik neighbors. Like, he is in rare... He's better than those two people. Yeah. I'm telling you right now. So by the way, he had eight catches, 78 yards, two touchdowns. The thing I love about him is that he's not just, like, super fast or explosive or whatever.

He's doing some of the nuance stuff that you love to see. Like, he's separating as a route runner. He's doing the toe tap thing at the sideline. Like, his touchdown, his first touchdown, I believe, was like an incredible extension to toe tap in the back corner of the end zone. Like, this guy's just freaking him. He's so good. Yeah, he did like a pirouette.

That was my play of the day. Was his, like, he literally did like a beautiful ballerina pirouette, came down, toe tap, touchdown. Incredible. And he's like 20. You got to get a good quarterback. Only good thing in my life. We can't waste Malik.

Although I guess Daniel Jones is doing one thing right, and he's just constantly peppering Malik neighbors. Yeah, that's a reason enough to keep him. Yeah, fucking genius, Daniel Jones, must be. All right. Next up. It's so over, we're so back. I think my, my, my, my, it's so over is Justin Tucker. Yeah, what's going on with this? Uh, and I think tonight or today playing the Cowboys, this was the official passing of the torch to Brandon Aubrey. Tucker missed a 46 yarder today. And then right after that, Aubrey hit a 65 yarder, second longest field goal in history.

And then he hit another 51 yard later in the game. When Tucker hit his 66 yarder, he dointed it off the middle crossbar and bounced it in and Aubrey hit a 65-yarder with fucking ease. Yeah. Like that shit was good for, I think Aubrey's going to hit a 70 yard of this season. You're 100% right that this was the passing of the torch.

Tucker's 5 for 8 on the year. O for 2 from 50 plus. Might be over. I think it's so over. Kicking is so weird to me. It's like, how did he just lose it all of a sudden? Is he like a golfer? It's like a swing's fucked up now?

Yeah, he's like Victor Hovlin. He's getting a little older. Who knows? You know, you lose it a little bit. Yeah, he's been the best kicker for like 10 years. No, this is correct. Although kickers, like Robbie Gould was like 41 and still nails. So I don't know.

Justin Tucker's 34. It gets like a mental thing. Yeah. D.K. Yeah. We're so back. Justin Fields is giving me help again, guys. I didn't really want to do.

I didn't want to do this. I had kind of like washed my hands of the whole thing. I'm like, he's just not a good quarterback. This is coming into the season. Like, he's just not a good quarterback. He holds on the ball too long. He just can't process quickly enough. He's just too slow.

He just takes too long to do everything. And that's like basically been the book on him for the last couple years. But man, he's 3-0 as the starter for the Steelers. Obviously, the defense has a huge amount to do with that. The Steelers defense does. And, you know, that's going to continue to be the case. And I don't think Justin Fields is like blowing anybody's minds or anything like that. But he has been pretty clean.

Like, the way he's been operating the offense, he looks very decisive. He looks like he knows where he's going to go with the football most of the time. He's not playing panicked. He's not taking too long. He threw over the middle of field a bunch today, which is another big step for him because early on in the year was just like everything was to the sideline. You have to be able to attack the middle of the field if you want to consistently be a good quarterback. 25 out of 32, 245 yards, a touchdown, a pick. The pick was tapped at, or it was tipped at the line of scrimmage.

I don't know if it was like necessarily his fault. And then he also had a six-yard touchdown on a keeper early on in the game. So the Steelers are just going to win every single game 20 to 10, which is what they did today. Yeah, at the beginning of the year, I was watching the Steelers offense like through my hands, you know, like you watch a scary movie. And now I've pulled them away. I don't know if that means I'm getting too comfortable and this will come back to bite me. But yeah, I think Fields has instilled a little bit of comfort in Steelers fans. I actually feel comfortable watching him. And I no longer fear for, you know, the Steelers possession every time he drops back.

Yeah, exactly. I used to kind of like dread watching him play. Like, yeah. Because I want him to be good. And like physically speaking, the traits are outstanding. But then he just wasn't a fast enough processor. It was just like really painful to watch. And he's been a lot better, a lot better.

I love that he like feeds George Pickens. He trusts George Pickens. And, you know, he's giving his best receiver a chance. Yeah, his touchdown passed at Calvin Austin today was really impressive. He like threaded the needs. over the middle of field. You know, those types of passes are interesting to me. So, yeah, if people didn't see it, it was over the middle,

it was like a slant route. It was one of those where he fitted in a tight window. And there was like a linebacker crossing right past the route. And if he was a second late, it was an easy pick. And Anthony Richardson had one of those in week one. I think it was to Alec Pierce. Or no, it was Josh, it was dueling. And I can't tell if those plays are just really lucky

because those two quarterbacks literally didn't see that defender and rifled it in in time and got lucky. or if they were like, I see this closing window, I'm good enough to fit it in there. You know what I mean? I actually kind of think it is the former and they're just getting lucky because they have a cannon.

But, you know, I don't know. Yeah. I totally agree. Jay McCarthy like beat Ohio State by doing that with one of those where I'm like, well, the guy just fucking turned around. But it didn't.

But yeah, the whole thing, I mean, honestly, Arthur Smith. History is written by the winners, Craig. Arthur Smith, getting Justin Fields to be a good quarterback is just the whole like, you know, the onion thing of heartbreaking, worst person you know, a great point. And I'm like, yeah, well,

we'll just never, ever credit Arthur Smith for a day. That's sort of acknowledge. He did any part of this. My, it's so over. The Miami Dolphin season is over. The whole thing is over. They literally showed their ass today as in Braxton, Berrios got his pants pulled down.

Yeah, that was kind of graphic. I want to bring producer Carlos in here because he is a tortured Dolphins fan. and I Carlos, it felt really bad for you because you texted us today and I quote,

Andy Dalton's Panthers scored more points today than the dolphins have this season. That shocked me. How are you doing, Carlos? You're feeling okay? The dolphins lost 24 to 3. I'm surviving.

Don't, Dolm for Tua right now. Who says no? Um, I don't know. With the injuries, I don't know. actually.

But it's, I don't know, the whole thing is just super frustrating because this is, like, this is their own making. Like,

they did this to themselves. Why did, why did they not go get a more accomplished backup in, with this specific situation? It could have got Malik Willis, the legendary accomplishments of Malik Willis. Yeah.

I think part of it was that, like, Tuo was dealing with the, with the, um, contract stuff in the off season. So, like,

they didn't want to, like, bring in, like, some established, like, veteran to, like, you know, cause, make any problems with, like, Tua and, like, the contract negotiation or whatever, but it's just like, you, like, the whole plan in the off season was we're going to have Mike White and Skyler Thompson compete.

Like, that's just insane to me. Like, it's, I feel like they were so, like, caught up in, like, the fact that he played 17 games last year. And I thought, this is fine. And then the offensive line is, like, a whole other issue because, you know, Tua had that quote. I think it was at the end of the off season where he said, like, it doesn't matter. The offensive line doesn't matter because I get the ball out so quickly.

And it's like, it was an incredibly douchy thing to say right after he like harped on the Brian Flores thing of like, you know, it's really important for people to believe in you. And then like two days after he was like, I wish Brian Flores believed in me. He was like, who cares if I believe my offensive line? Yeah, it was strange timing for sure. And like that that's even if that's true, that's great. But, like, if you go out, if he goes out, like, not everyone is going to have the same, like, quick release. Like, it's not, like, this offensive line is nonfunctional for literally any other quarterback. Yeah, completely changes the offense.

Like, fundamentally changes the offense. Yeah. The dolphins, again, they lost 24 to 3 today. The game, it never felt competitive. Skyler Thompson was awfully left with a chest injury. Tim Boyle came in. I assume they have Tim Boyle because of his experience throwing to the Miami Dolphins from his time as a New York jet. and he looked better than Skyler Thompson did.

He did have a sick sidearm over the middle to Janu. That was nice. He looked way better. So the Dolphins, at least efficient offense to the NFL, the 31st points. And I think the thing to me that's most interesting about Miami right now is that all these guys from the Shanahan McVeigh world, you look at Kevin O'Connell and what he's doing is Sam to Arnold. You look at, again, Matt LaFleur, going 2-0 with Malik Willis and Malik. Willis had been on the team for like 20 days when he made that first start.

And then you look at Miami where Skyo Thompson has been on Miami for a couple of years now. And I am, it strikes me the, as much as we consider all these guys gurus, the inability for Mike McDaniel to build a similar game plan to, again, the Packers are winning with Malik Willis. The dolphins look, frankly, like one of the two or three worst offenses in the NFL with their backup quarterback. And I don't, I think that part of that's an indictment on how they've built this team. And I don't know what you think, D.K. and Carlos, I want to know what you think too. But I feel like you kind of have to take a little shine off Mike McDaniel to go out and watch

this team. Like, they weren't even close to scoring when they didn't get a turnover. Yeah, I don't, it's, it's tough because part of me is like, this is the norm. Most, almost all the time when you have a backup quarterback, they suck. Like, you know what I mean? Like, this should be the expectation. But then when you're comparing it to like Matt Leflur, yeah, I think it does take a little bit of shine off of it because of what Matt Lafleur has done in two games with Malik Willis. Now, if Malik Willis started for 16 games, like would the stats look similarly?

Probably not. Like over a full season. He probably would be terrible. But, yeah, I don't know. I'm hesitant to like Barry McDaniel. so like this quickly just because of like most teams playing with their backup quarterback are going to suck. It's just how the NFL works. Like having a good starter is hard.

It's hard enough to be good when you have a like a normal starter. When you're trying to play with the backup, it just kind of ruins everything. So I don't know. It did. I was shocked though when Carlos told us there, they literally have the fewest points in the NFL other than Jacksonville who hasn't played. So they're averaging 11 points a game. That's pretty rough.

I just want to point out that week three last. year was the week that they scored 70 points. So the dolphins are less points this season through three games than they had in one half, each half of that week three game last season. What week do you think they hit 72 total points? That's a great question. When does Tito come back? Two comes back probably around the Cardinals game.

Might take until then, I don't know. Well, they get three points this week and three points next week, so we can figure that. They play the Titans next week. That'll be good for at least six again in that one. Also, wait, if you're listening to this on Spotify, can we,

let's see if we can throw the picture of the ass up on Spotify for this conversation. Is there any like, like kid warnings that I need to issue here. Rental advice. How about this? We'll give a pause. Maybe we'll blur out the butt. You want to blur out the butt?

No, that's the whole point. Yeah. It's just kind of like, it's not just like a butt out in the background. It's like a full-on butt. Oh, it's like the ass. Yeah, I guess the ass will just be on people's phones.

All right, we don't have to put the butt on the phone. Just Google it. Yeah, people can Google it. Okay. All right. Thank you, Carlos. I'm sorry your team sucks, but I get it. Believe me.

All right. Speaking of which, I do want to say also real quick, it's so over for the Browns. I'm just like, it's insane. It's never been more over. For the Browns. The Browns, the Giants literally handed the Browns seven points to start this game. Like, they handed them this.

spread. It was, they fumbled the opening kickoff and the Browns scored seven points on the first play of the game and they got 25 yards and they didn't get another 25 yards for 30 more minutes of game time. Watson took eight sacks. Watson has taken that most sacks by a Browns quarterback through three games ever. And then the Browns also lost three offensive linemen in this game. I have to shout out our very own Austin Gales tweet because this blew my mind. Today he tweeted, The Cleveland Browns' offense success rate in week one to three is the lowest it's ever been in any season for the franchise since 2000. Deshawn Watson is leading an all-time franchise worst offense for the Cleveland Browns.

This is the worst Browns offense since the year 2000. Think about all the quarterbacks that we've seen. Deshawn Kaiser, Brandon Whedon. Johnny Mansell. Johnny Mansell. And this is the worst offense. I And he has a fully guaranteed contract

for $256 million. Do you know who's spending the most cash on their roster this season? Is it the Browns? It's the Browns. It'd be funny if he was like the Falcons. Next category. The Browns.

$337 million on their roster this season. Jeez. Worst offense they've had in 24 years. Honestly, you know what? Sometimes, I guess, you know what? People get what they deserve. I know. Sure.

It's like, couldn't happen to better people. I just think it's, it's so telling and funny that after what Joe Flacco did last year, they just let him walk. Dude, they were like, oh,

because they like, we can't have the team knows he's better than Deshaun Watson. Like, we can't have that. That is just so brutal. It's unbelievable. There is something funny about people that, like,

they did have to do that. But also the idea, like explaining it to a non-sports fan is like, yeah, this guy came out of retirement and on a really reasonable contract and like no time just came in and led them to the playoffs

this heroic performance. And everyone loved him. And they're like, oh, what happened? Like, oh, they fired him because he would make the, you would make Deshawn Watson, the, you know, that guy,

really uncomfortable. Like, couldn't you have kept around for like nothing? Like, yeah, I don't know, they could have. But it would have been awkward. And they, you know, they can't handle the awkwardness. It would have been awkward. Yeah. The alpha males who love competitiveness,

they couldn't have handled it. So. well, all right, so over for the Browns. Were you rooting for your team to win today? I felt very mixed emotions about it. Yeah, yeah. I, I, uh, whatever. Okay.

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dot com call 1-800 gambler or visit rg dash help.com. All right. Play of the day. I mean, it's the hook and ladder for the lions, right? That was amazing. That was incredible. Yeah. So it was thrown to Amon Ross St. Brown, right?

And then he and then out of the back field, Jamir Gibbs just came flying around. Alam Ross, St. Brown pitched it to him. He scored a touchdown. So Amon Ross St. Brown gets the catch. Yeah. And then Gibbs got a touchdown catch. but he doesn't get any,

he doesn't actually get a catch. Does he get, but he gets the yards? So receiving touchdown, but he didn't have a reception. Did he get the yards though? That's a good question. I believe you get to yards. Are they counted as receiving yards?

I believe you get the yards, yeah. So he had zero catches, 26 yards and a touchdown. Receiving touchdown, yeah. Yes. You know what's funny about that is I think Jemir Gibbs should get the credit for the catch because by the letter of the law in the NFL, like the rule of what is a catch in the NFL.

Now is you have to catch the ball and you have to make a football move. Amonra St. Brown basically volleyball set this ball to Jamir Gibbs. He didn't even take one step. They should consider that basically a tipped pass off of Monra

to Jamir Gibbs and it's a catch for Jamir Gibbs. Do you have Jamir Gibbs and you lose by like half a point? No, no. I actually had Jared Gough and I was freaking out because I thought it might be like

a weird rushing touchdown or they don't count it for golf. But just watching that I was like, that's not a catch by Amonra. If somebody hit the ball out of his hands at the same time that he pitched it, they would have called it an incomplete pass.

I mean, it's a football move, though. It's a lateral. He did it on purpose. A lateral is it, but that, you need a football move to secure the catch. You need to make a football move to secure the catch. If you're throwing the ball away from you. The football move was the- That's what that would be, you think that would be a fumble if Jamir Gibbs didn't catch it? Yes. See, that's crazy. He barely touches the ball. But he did it on purpose. He doesn't make a move. That's the football move was the intentional lateral. A football move usually means like you have to take two steps. You have to like do something. Usually people aren't lateraling footballs. But it was less than one step.

I don't think it aligns with the rest of the rules of the catch. Oh. You should watch it. Anyway, Gibbs zero targets, zero receptions, 20 receiving guards in a touchdown. I just think that's a fun little quirk. It's like when Trey McBride recovered that fumble in the end zone last week and it was a touchdown. And it was like, where is that? What does that count of?

Every time they, every time. So like the 49ers had the whole lateral play at the end of the game with no time. And every time those happen, I'm like, oh, fuck. Like one of my guys is going to like. throw the ball 20 yards and get it get a fumble or and then lose a bunch of yards. I don't know. Like, you know, I'm always worried the stats are going to like totally

fuck my guy in those last in those last plays. So it's always fun. The over under from Holmes is rushing yards tonight. I believe was 30 and a half and he had hit the over. But then he has three straight meals. He lost like five yards per kneel and actually hit the under. Oh, brutal. The other cool play that I wanted to mention was

late in that 49ers Rams game. There was like a, there was a minute, 54 left. LA was trailing San Francisco 24 to 17. There was a second and goal from the four-yard line. It was so cool. Stafford came to the line.

He kind of like surveyed everything. He checked to a run play and ran a, it was like an inside handoff draw play to Karen Williams. And like one step after Kyron Williams took the ball, Stafford just like started doing like the Steph Curry running down the court with his back to the hoop type of celebration because he just knew. he's like, I just called the perfect audible and he scored the touchdown.

So I thought that was great. And also that was a touchdown to tie the game up. We saw that last week with Kyler Murray did that. He had a pass to, I think it was Marvin Harrison in the end zone. And he did the turnaround. Oh, yeah. Nate Tice was tweeting about that. And Kyler, he like retweet or he responded to him and did the Curry thing.

Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I just thought that was cool. Worst play of the day. We mentioned the ass photo. That's a really strong contender. That's probably. The other, we won't. fine we won't put the ass photo up on your phones but we will put up if you go to spotify app the other

not to pick a will levis but there's another will let's photo has dropped sir a third a third will let's photo is uh the third photo uh the third photo is this week's photo is just dude the amount of photos of fucking will levis through three weeks but yeah recap it because week one it was surrender cobra for the worst pick six since carson went swalked the earth and the second one was him diving like lateraling backwards. He's like horizontal to the ground. The week, the week one one was like a Renaissance painting in slowmo. The week two one was like you hit the, like you don't know how to play Madden or the video

like and you just like, you hit the lateral button by accident. It was like he was diving forward and throwing the ball. It was insane. Well, I don't know if this is like an advanced stat. This is anti-lytics probably. But I think it's a good sign that your season isn't going great probably. if two out of three weeks, a picture of you has made it on art but make it sports.

The Twitter account, that is incredible. I think it's been, I think the Surrender Cobra and this latest one have both made. This one, yeah, this one is just 90 on the backers. I mean, frankly, his crotch is shoving the back of Will Levis's face into the ground. And then the ball is just scooting out. And, yeah, Art, but make it sports. Two out of three weeks.

Yeah, maybe three out of three. I don't know. I'll have to go check the tape. The new wets. He also, I know that's not even to play, but he also had the dumbest interception of the day, which, no offense to Will Evans, but like, he, like, Gial Alexander,

highest-pid quarterback in the NFL, which is sitting waiting from to throw a ball to Hopkins. And he just threw the ball to Hopkins. Jayal-Oxander just caught it and, like, went untouched to the end zone. And, yeah, fun stuff. All right, real and spectacular. Bonix? I, Boenix, kind of looks okay.

He looks all right. of all the rookie quarterbacks, Bo Nix right now looks the most solid. 25 for 36, 216 yards. They got the win today. They handedly beat the Bucks. They beat the shit out of the Bucks. Yeah.

Bo Nix also 45 yards rushing in a touchdown. I gotta say, Knicks is fast, man. He is athletic and quick. Yeah, he is fast. Bo Nix. So first of this whole, shout out also to Jolil McLaughlin,

who I think looks way better than Javante Williams at running back. And he changed the whole game because it was seven, and nothing, and then the Broncos had it at a fourth and goal at the inches. And Des said the inches at the inch. I can't speak English.

But anyway, he really like single-handedly juked out like three bucks defenders to get a touchdown. And it really changed the game because once they were at 14 nothing, the, the, the, the, the box offense could get anything going. But this was easily the best game. I mean, best game that Bonix has had doesn't even do it justice. Like, I think that he wasn't just, he did everything right in the dink and dunk. And he did it.

He didn't make any dumb plays, but he also had a level. of aggression that frankly had been really lacking in the last couple how many decades that he was in college, I don't know. But like he really was targeting stuff downfield and he didn't always say that, but he was like targeting Cortland Sutton and everything in a way that I think that I, maybe he just was really offended by everyone just saying he couldn't understand Sean Payton's play calls in the huddle last week because he seemed like way more in command. Yeah, he looked better in this game than he has in the first two games.

I'll say that. I wouldn't say he, like, I was trying to see if there was any stats that kind of back up what Craig was saying in terms of him looking like the best rookie quarterback. They're all pretty bad in terms of all the rookie quarterbacks are pretty bad. No, so my stat is he looked like the best rookie quarterback, which if you just watched the rookie quarterbacks, he does look like the best one. I like that DK was like, I was trying to fight a stat to back up what Craig said. I couldn't. Couldn't. It's not.

Who is the best rookie quarterback according to the stats you looked up? well right now it's probably jane daniels but he hasn't played his second game yet zero zero is great but like it from everything from you know pre revenue passer rating you know touchdowns the interceptions success rate EPA for dropback like kill williams bonex jane daniels who am i missing there's one more trick may hasn't played uh trick may i think i just figured out the rookie mystery box thing they're all bad is the point it's the pre-revenue thing from slowcon valley You don't want to make any money. Don't want to make any revenue.

Because what? Companies make money. No. Once you make money, it's never enough. But if you haven't made any money yet, the amount of fan, you know, the amount of financing points you could have, it could be anything.

I think if I needed a rookie quarter wreck to drive down the field right now, I'd pick Bo Nix. I'd still go with Caleb. But your point is taken. He did have a much better game than his first two weeks. The Broncos, I mean, not the Broncos. The Bears offense.

I mean, the Bears Colts game was like a fucking abomination for a bunch of reasons. But like the the photo. It was. But the photo of the Bears offense on that fourth and goal where they did the speed option and Caleb pitch. And all five Bears offensive linemen have ended up on the ground as like four Colts defensive linemen are just tackling the two of them.

It's like sad. Yeah, it was tough. I would say Caleb Williams did make some pretty nice throws like late in the game. But overall pretty rough again. He had more yards. He had more passing yards in this game than Justin Fields has than any game is an entire fear. He's 35 times.

I know, but I just, I don't know. I guess. Yeah, but he did, he made a couple of really nice throws. I will say that. I don't know. People are being really hard on Caleb. I'm like, when I watch the Bears, I'm not thinking like, wow, Caleb's the fucking problem at his second career, third career start.

I'm like, this fuck, this team cannot fucking block. They can't run the ball at all. No, DeAndreux swept out like 15 carries for like 16 yards today. And you can see it in Caleb. that he knows that his offensive line is terrible and that he's frantic back there because he knows he's not going to have any time. With that said,

he misses a lot of deep balls by like a lot. He misses throws. Belichick laughing about the accuracy wasn't great. I didn't love that. If you make Belichick smile, something's gone wrong. What are we going to? We're talking about completion percentage now?

Come on. You got your stats with Bonnix. Yes, I didn't cite completion percentage. I hate that. Competition percentage is not. accuracy though. You did your... I told you.

Well, Hyphids kind of interrupted, but I said, like everything you look at from, you know, I said EPA per dropback, success rate, some of these more advanced stats, they're very bad,

very, very bad for pretty much all the rookie quarterbacks. What about dubs? Well, I think Caleb Williams has won. Bodeck says one. Caleb doesn't have one. He does.

Caleb did not win that first time. He does, in fact, have a quarterback win. What did he had 90 yards that game? He did not win that. What? Finished Deadlast? Yeah, he had a great day, though.

Well, I'm giving Caleb Williams I'm giving Instead of Calebims I'm giving the Bears to Shane Waldron I'm giving Shane Waldron The Arthur Smith Award for the coach That pissed me off

Sorry, there's too many names I'm losing my fucking mind It's late for you What time is it? I think Bears fans are already turning on Shane Waldron It's been three games As they should

As they should It's not going great A speed option on fourth down And goal from like the one yard line Why do people go fucking Galaxy Brain on 4th and inches. Run power. Yeah. Just the thought. QB sneak with Caleb Williams. Only other person that I wanted to shout out for the potential of Arthur Smith Award for Coach

the pitch you off was Craig. I know this bothered you when the Texans took out CJ Stroud because the game was at 31 point or 27 points out of hand. They left in Staphn's, Nico Collins, and Tank Dell. I don't know if this is a, this is the Shanahan tree thing because it's the Texans, but I don't know what these coaches are doing. Play all the bad players when you're losing by a lot. I don't get it. Why is Miko Collins, one of the best receivers in the league, in the game, getting targets from Davis Mills

in the fourth quarter down 27. Why? Give me one reason. Let's get D'Amico on the phone. I'm trying to look and see if I can actually find, like, they had METI was inactive. I don't care. Robert Woods was active?

Why was it Robert Woods? Xavier Hutchins. was active. He should have been in there. I don't care. I'm just checking to see if there's an obvious, like maybe they only played like four receivers, but they didn't. They did not do that. But he, like, run, just run the ball every time or something.

It doesn't matter. The game's over. Cricks. What are we doing? I just don't understand. You're admitting defeat if you put Davis Mills in, so you can just pull all your good, pull the rest of them. I agree. All right, TK. I agree. You have to get to an important segment here. Fart or shart?

Yeah. D.K. The New Orleans Saints today, after coming in as the highest scoring team in the NFL, the New Orleans Saints left quite the bad smell. They lost to the Eagles 15 to 12. Do you think that this was a fart from the Saints today or a shart? I think it was a fart. I'm not too worried quite yet.

I think for whatever reason, they just couldn't get anything going. They couldn't run the football at all. Carr was pressured a ton in this game. I just wanted an excuse to do like the Obi-1-Kanobi. you were supposed to be the chosen one for the Saints. They were supposed to be the team that saves offense this year. No one fucking can run an

offense this year at all except for the Saints and the Texans, by the way, who also suck today. So it was just a bummer to see yet another team bite the dust. Now they suck at offense. But I do think that will be better. I don't think this is going to be a trend. I think it was more realistically just

this is a regression back towards me and then they went way over is like the pendulum swung all the way back. And then they'll probably somewhere end up in the middle next week. The Eagles won six down linemen and it just really fucked them up. Did you see that C.J. Gardner Johnson, the cornerback on the Eagles, had a quote about the Saints and he said that they're not contenders, they're pretenders, they have Derek Carr, remember that?

That's a bar. Yeah, I really like that. The quotes have been really good. It's a good reminder. Corners are talking a lot of shit the first three weeks of the season. Cornerbacks are back. Yeah. Corners are back.

Corners are back. Corners are back. Who's the, the Bengals corner made another, he did another like. Okay. Yeah, Taylor Britt on the Bengals.

Yeah. He just nailed it. He said, yeah, he's just said, yeah, Washington, Jade Daniels rookie fast.

Doesn't, rookie, they're running a college offense. They don't ask him to do a lot. You know, don't throw a lot of screens. Cliff runs the offense. And I was like,

yeah, that's not even talking shit. It's just like super accurate. They just throw a fucking horse. Taylor Brin a podcast? Dude, I would love to get it. Do you think he's getting in trouble for this stuff? Or do you think they are just like,

eh, whatever, talk your shit? I don't think they're telling him not to, I feel like you gotta just let your guys be who they are. I mean, if he literally did, especially corners. He literally did the one-handed interception over Xavier Worthy. After giving up a touchdown. Yeah, but I mean.

Just saying. Just pointed out. Okay, Hyfitz. fart or shart the Ravens tight ends Mark Andrews and Isaiah likely I can give you some statistics if you'd like I think

the Ravens so I mean Mark Andrews had zero yards zero catches I think this is a fart but like you got to go to this stall and like check okay like you have to like it's like almost positive

it's a fart but so this is now this is now three weeks of you having to get up and leave class to check your underwear because you think you might have sharded, but it's been a fart, three straight weeks of it for Mark Andrews. I think it's three straight weeks of a fart. Okay.

But like if there's a fourth, you got to go to a doctor. Okay. Andrews, this is weird. He played 33% of the team snaps today. And he ran a route on 35% of dropbacks. I get, we're Lamar only threw the ball 15 times. So it's a small time. I think how we'll remember this situation is that Mark Andrews was in a car accident two weeks before

the season. And they came back and said, he was, thank God, he's okay. not a scratch on him and then he didn't practice for two weeks and we're like, that's so weird considering you said there wasn't a scratch on him and then he's just not playing a lot and I just cannot be convinced that these are like

fucking unrelated. You know what I mean? Yeah, look, that's probably right. But then isn't that a chart? Well, that's why I said you got a good check. I don't know. I think in all seriousness, I think that this Ravens game, I don't want to put too much stock in it

because it was 28 to 6. they were kicking the living shit out of them. And they just were running it with Derek Kennedy the entire second half. And then Dallas came back. And I think it was just a weird thing. But yeah, I still think Mark Andrews is a by-low because anyone has Mark Andrews is freaking the fuck out. If you're a by-low, it's a fart. You can't be a buy-law.

If it's a shart, they're not a by-low. So, okay, we'll stick to fart. I'm terrified. I'm very terrified for Mark Andrews. I don't know if I could start him in another league. That's why you trade for them because people are like, I can't start this guy. going to fucking zero. It'll be fine.

Again, the wise man bow with his head and said, there's no difference between good and bad things, you fucking idiot. Like, it's fine. Mark Angels will be okay. You fucking imbecile. That feels hard in a game like fantasy football where there are statistical numbers

that determine your outcome. Well, shut up. Craig, losing and winning, they're the same thing. Right. Yeah. There's no difference.

Shanahan has three rings. Yeah, exactly. Honestly, it's kind of. true. It's not his fucking fault that Jimmy overthrew Manuel Sanders. So, Kyle did his job. Craig, by the way, Craig calling likely being like nothing going forward. That was going

like, great call. You just knew it. He knew that was going to mind. Awful. He has five points since that big week one. God. Worst referee moment. We mentioned the Texans got four straight penalties and I'm just, I don't know. I feel like that was the rest kind of being weird. No, dude. The worst one was the Lions game. It was the

Jared Gough snapped the ball at two minutes and one second left. Oh, yeah. the two minute warning. He throws a pick six. They call to play dead because they say he snapped it after the clock struck two minutes. That was insane. They go back and watch. He snapped it with a half a second still remaining.

The clock was still at 201 when the ball was snapped. And because the ref called it, the call to play dead couldn't do anything about it. And that was how we got the hook and ladder play wasn't it? The lines went down and scored a touchdown. Like the whole game kind of swung on that. I think you're right. Yeah. I mean, it's an absolutely unforgivable, brutal call.

That's terrible. It was really fucking bad. Why are they such a hurry to call the two-minute warning? Just let the play play out. You're just really excited. You're going to call it dead? Guys, I also, I think that's the ref equivalent of like when one of your boys kind of gets like a shoving match at the bar.

And you're like, fuck, I get one guy just blew it dead. And he was like, wait, everyone. And everyone's like, shut the fuck up, Jim. And then what are you going to do? Like, you blew it dead. Like, you got it. you know, you're a fucking unit. You know, you gotta be there for your boy.

But like, yeah, the refs have those, too. All right. SBF fraud watch presented by FTX. Thank you to our sponsor, FtX. Dude, God, much defense are totally on fraud watch. I thought they were good. Yeah.

I thought that was like kind of the part of their thing was that they were good at defense. They've given up the most rushing yards in the league. 30 points per game. Third worst, defensive EPA per drive. Like, they're awful. they have no spine to the defense. They have no defensive tackles that are good.

They have no linebackers that are good. And they don't really necessarily even have the safety play to stop the run. And also now Mike Zimmer has added to the team as defensive coordinator, the static equals death. They don't move and you have to move. And then also he's mean. And so I think all the players are going to revolt on that really soon. Because at least Dan Quinn wore his backwards hat and was like,

hello, fellow kids and let them do cool fucking shit. and I think the defense you can only be this bad for so long and I get yelled at. He's mean is really funny. His mean is fine if you're good. You just better be fucking good. That's true.

All right. The Lucille Bluth, I don't understand the stat line and I won't respond to it award. I got a couple. Dallas Goddert had 10 catches for 170 yards, both career highs. Last week, without AJ Brown, he had five fantasy points.

this week. Same situation. I talked Craig out of playing Goddard today. I feel pretty terrible about that. I'm sorry, Craig. It's all right. I'm going to win. So it's okay. Otherwise, I would kill you in cold blood.

I was like, yeah, Goddard. He's been kind of an afterthought in the offense. 170 yards. God damn it. I saw it happening in the group chat and I literally typed out actually a pro got an argument and then I deleted it because I was like, that's awesome. So, good shit.

A really cool thing to say after the game. Yeah. I actually loved Goddard. Yeah. The last one, the stat I won't acknowledge, is that the Raiders had two top 10 wide receivers and fantasy today, the Raiders, who lost to the Panthers. And neither of them were Devonti Adams or Brock Bowers.

Two top ten guys. Trey Tucker, wide receiver six, Jacobi Myers, wide receiver nine. We'll just ignore that. Nope. I just love that Juan Jennings is the number two receiver in fantasy. Dude, he's the best. I would die for that guy.

Where do you rank him next week? I mean, Kittle. Debo's going to be out again. Who knows if Kittle plays? Okay. Next up, we have a daily double. Ooh, yeah. I forgot about that.

Explain what that is for people who do. Daily double, yeah. So if you're listening to this, emails, comment on our Instagram, comment on TikTok on Sundays with these cats. It said TikTok, a TikTok. Oh my God, I can't speak English. But like comment and with these in your nominate players for your categories.

And we will read. some of them on the show. And so this daily double is from Andrew. Andrew. Andy? My intrusive thought is that Anthony Richardson might suck. Hell yeah. Andrew, welcome to the club, my friend.

I agree. I'm only in two fantasy leagues, one of which I drafted this man. And he's terrible. He's actually really bad. If you guys weren't watching the Colts game, there were so many plays that were just absolute layup passes for Anthony Richardson that I think every other quarterback in the league would have completed.

He is sailing balls over Michael Pittman's head on like a third and four. Brutal overthrows, a massive underthrow and a crucial deep ball to Adonai Mitchell in the fourth. He had one of the dumbest fumbles I've seen that was actually blown dead like right before. They blew the whistle right before the fumble, but that would have been a terrible turnover. And I got to be honest, when I'm watching him, I love, I actually, I love Anthony Richardson. I want him to be really good. I think just like athletically, he's just unlike anything I've ever seen. So it's so frustrating.

When I see him on the sideline and he's sitting, so we were talking about Joe Flacco with the Browns last year. Joe Flacco's on the Colts now. And I see Anthony Richardson after throwing an egregious interception, sit down on the bench. And I see Flacko teaching him and holding the Microsoft surface. And I'm like, maybe we put Flacco in the game. Like at a certain point, I wonder if that would ever happen. I know that they actually won the game and they ran the ball very well. Yeah, who won the game?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, not because of fucking, no. It was the leadership. It was the leadership, guys. It's bad. It's really bad. The passing is really bad. And he's not even really running that much.

Again, that's the hard part. Anthony Richardson is 22 years old. He is two years older than Booneck. You're sorry, Anthony Richardson's two years younger than Boenicks. I mean, he's played like 20 games since high school. That was going to be the thing I was going to bring up. You can tell this guy just does not have enough reps. I will say, when we have these whole conversation,

we talked to Chris Ryan about this last week, all these conversations about quarterbacks and should they have reps and how long should they sit and basically the money ballification of like because they're in rookie quarterback rookie contracts, they play. I think Richardson's like the best example of this of like, look, I understand that it's kind of like you can't read a book to learn and swim. You got to be thrown in the water at some point.

but holy shit. Yeah, Anthony Richardson having 17 games between college and now, and you watch him play and he had what, 50, 10, completed 10 of 20 passes. The 10 he missed were by a lot. There was one key third down where he had a guy wide open to his left and he just threw it over his head. It was Pittman.

He was like 10 feet over his head. It was terrible. It was a guy shooting a half-course shot at an NBA game. Like a fan. And again, I think he just mentioned this, but when were he rolled right and tried to throw it across his body? across the field and ended up being dropped was one of the dumbest decisions I've seen

of the whole season and it just yeah he just needs to play more football but yeah he basically he's the guy you can do stuff that other quarterbacks could never think of but also he can't really do the things that every other quarterback can do yet and it just would be nice if he had just taken the little like you know half of Jordan love

it's really tough they're playing the Steelers next week yeah he's getting fucked that's not going to go well at the Colts right yeah yeah yeah exactly Two tight ends who outscored Kyle Pitts and a lie. Cow Pits tied in seven this week.

Oh. With six points. I hate the tight end position so much. All right. Here are two tight ends who outscored Cow Pits and a lie. Nick Vinette. Which team is he on? Well, he might be the lie, so I can't tell you.

Noah Fant and Johnny Munt. Jesus. Johnny Munt dropped the touchdown. So no. He caught one too, I thought. I'll give you a hint. Johnny Munt does have a touchdown. Did score a touchdown.

Those is only catch. I think Craig's doing that thing where everyone outscored him. But I'm going to say Noah Fant. I'll say no fan. Noah Fant did outscore him. Johnny Munt did not. Johnny Munt had one catch for two yards

and it was a touchdown. Not enough for Kyle Pitts. Pitts got screwed. He got tackled at the one on that like 60 yard bomb and then probably should have gotten a P.I. Right. Tight-in sucks, except Dallas Goddard.

So if you just look at all the tight ends that you drafted in the top 12. By the way, Dallas Goddard is the tight end one right now. Dude, well, here's the thing. What a fucking joke. If you played Dallas Goddard, awesome. In total, in total half PPR points. So George Kittle and David and Joku and Evan Engram didn't play this week. So if you have Sam LaPorta, Trey McBride, Brock Bowers, Mark Andrews, Dalton Schultz, Isaiah

likely, Travis Kelsey, did not get 30 points combined. How do you say the tight ends name on the Niners? Eric Saubert? Salbert? It's Saubert? I'm not the pronunciation guy. I was just looking at one of the top scores of the day, and it was Eric Saubert at Tidon.

Eric Sabbert, Leporta and McBride. We should have like a dartboard or like a loosely trained farm animal, pick a Titan each week by random chance and see if we can pick. We should get a pig. Yeah, we should get a pig. We should get

Or Moodang. We should get the fucking hippo. We should get Moodang. We should get a fucking hippo to just pick a goddamn random fucking tight end. And we should just see if we can actually we can pick any. It's like those wins pools where there are wind pools

where you can only pick one team and it's hard, but the hardest one pools or you could pick any team you want any week and then no one makes it to like week six. It's like we can pick any tight end we want to outdo fucking Joddy Mont and we won't make it three weeks. two Tennessee tight ends in the top nine and neither of them are chigacanquo

I think it's like the most demoralizing thing is like you can look at your teams and you're like oh I'm in really good shape here I got you know Trey McBride or whoever and I'm feeling so good about my offense and then he literally gets outscored by Kylan Granson

Eric Sobert Brock Wright Josh Brite Brooke Wright outscored freaking Sam Rupporta Like you could put anybody in there You don't have to invest anything in tight end I'm sick of tight end

I feel like didn't let didn't over the offseason We're like tight end is fixed It's not fixed It's never gonna be fixed It's she worse than ever Yeah it is worse than ever We're back actually We're back

Tight ends are bad Which means we're back Cole Komet Number two tight end on the day All right burn book I don't think we should burn Mark Andrews But I felt the need to say it I kind of feel like we do

You can't give him a fart and then burn him. You have to burn him. I don't want to burn him. I just felt the need to represent the people and throw the name out. I think we need to give him another week. See, I'm happy burning him, but when we'd have to change his designation from fart to shart. For the record. Craig is really hung up on the people.

I think there are better people that I believe less than a rebound. I think Michael Pittman is. in the running. What did he do today? Five points. This year he's gone five points, three points, five points. And I don't know. I don't really see an end in sight.

There's a lot of receivers on this team that Anthony Richardson likes to overthrow. I got one. Okay. DeAndre Swift needs to go on the Burbank. Was he bad today? Yeah, he was really bad. 13 rushes for 22 yards against the Colts who had given up an average of 230 yards.

a game coming into today. He does a few nice things in the passing game, I feel like, but it just does not make up for his complete ineptitude on the ground. Swift is the worst vision. Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say, I was watching a couple plays in this game where it looked like he had like a really wide open spot and he just ran right to a defender to try and run them over instead of going to daylight.

Yeah, he's just been really, really bad. And also, from a fantasy point of view, they sub-Kalil Herbert in when they get inside the five-yard line. So DeAndre Swift is not going to get any touchdowns probably. And then Rochon Johnson has been better. He was better today as like a passing downs guy or like a they were subbing him as a change-of-paced type of player. I don't know. I just think DeAndre Swift legitimately might be the third best running back on that team. And for whatever reason, they gave him a whole bunch of money.

So maybe that means they have to play him. But he has not been good. and it's really, really frustrating to watch. And I just, I don't ever want to be tempted to put them back in my starting lineup. I'm good with Swift. I'm down to burn him because I agree. I think Swift is going to get benched by his real life team. DeAndre Swift is averaging, or he scored in three games, 16.4 points,

which is almost exactly the same amount as Miles Sanders, who I don't actually remember one time seeing Miles Sanders. You know what I mean? Like, he punched him a score today. I'm sure I'm sure I have seen him but like I never thought to myself oh there's myel Sanders you know I if you if you have told me like mild Sanders wasn't playing this year I'd have been that's that that that's right um so anyway that's how good deandre swift has been all right dion swift yeah you're in the burn book thank you dk thank you k thank you kre thank you

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Thank you, Kiss. Nice. Hyphitz, you know Kiss. I know you know Kiss. I'm saying you know Kiss songs. For some reason, Hyfit strikes me as the type of person who would have been really into Kiss

when he was like in fifth grade. Hyphitz, do you know the song? I guess I'm going to fucking sing again. I want to rock and roll. Oh, no. Yeah, of course. Yeah, that's Kiss. Yeah, I know that's kiss.

Oh, you just said, I don't know any kiss songs. You said to me earlier today about a specific song about New York. And then you said, I don't know any Kiss songs. No, yeah. Like, I don't know. Like, those don't count. Those are very, it's the born to run of Springsteen. I'm saying that, like, I couldn't tell you, like.

I feel like it counts when you know their most famous songs. That's most people know famous songs because they're famous. Okay. But if it's the flip side where it's like, I don't kiss songs and you name the two most popular ones, then people are like, well, you don't know kiss songs. Those are just, I don't know. if I claimed it then I feel like people would be like those don't count

I don't know I'm not bragging I don't know kiss I'm saying I think I probably know like three of their songs you know but you didn't know my New York song sing it I have to How does it go?

Okay yeah I actually want to hear you sing Go ahead We're back Back in the new York groove. You don't know that song? Keep going. Maybe if you keep going.

Well, honestly, they kind of just say that for the whole song. Craig. Honest take, gun to your head? Yeah. What's your thoughts on the whole like makeup thing? Like dressing up like a cat or like the cat makeup and you know all that. Wait, just a cat makeup guy and kids? Are you into it or not?

Am I into it? One of these guys just dressed like a cat? I don't know. I feel like that was very of a time. It was like the hair metal hair band thing. Right. You know, there were a lot of bands, I think, back then, who maybe weren't going as hard as these guys,

but had looks similar to that. So perhaps in the 80s I would have been into it. I don't know. I'm not asking you. That's not my question. Right now? No, it's not my cup of tea. I could do it on it.

What was up with this? Yeah. That's what? I think I'm just trying to like ask a really rational, like, what was their deal? Why did they do this? And also, yeah, I'm not going to lie. I kind of just knew about Gene Simmons.

I didn't know one of these guys just, like, did a cat makeup. Yeah, I don't know any of the guy. Why didn't he do that? I don't know. The Kiss Superfans are so infuriated with us right now. I wonder what the crossover is of Ringer Fantasy Football Show listeners and Kiss Superfans. I'm so dumb. I googled Kiss Cat.

I just got a bunch of people kissing cats. I'm so stupid. Band guy. Oh. Like if Gene Simmons came. up to you in the 1980s, Craig, and it was like, hey, man, we're going to start this band. And, like, one condition goes through all the whole list. It sounds fucking kick ass. You're going to tour around. You're going to be one of the biggest

bands of all time. You're going to have some of the biggest hits of all time. And then at the end he was like, oh, yeah, by the way, you're going to have to wear cat, like, just of like kind of like cat makeup. I think about that all the time of like, I kind of would love to have like a Tim Robinson style shark tank where we go back in time and hear like the best business pitches of all time, but like we don't think they're good ideas. Yeah. Do you think when, do you think Gene Simmons met up with the other KISS members and was like, hey, I got this crazy tongue thing.

And they were like, well, we should add to that. Like, do you think it started with tongue, the long tongue? And then they're like, let's paint our faces like cats in black and white. I think it started with like a Steve Belichick situation. Like you couldn't control it. And they're like, yeah, you got to put the tongue back. in the cage. And he's like, I can't.

And they're like, all right, well, we're gonna have to make the whole, the tongue of the whole thing. That's gotta be the identity. What do we do? I also don't know if the tongue,

I don't know anything, I don't know if that's real or fake. I think it's real. I don't know. What's fake? Because his tongue is like, his tongue really can do that. So he didn't like,

that's not a prosthetic in any way that he just has like an abnormally long tongue. I've never thought about this. I, I've never thought about this. He's like, he's like a six inch tongue or like a seven inch tongue. that that wasn't his real tongue.

Or like that he did, or that he did something to allow it to extend that far? Or is he just born that way? You think he's just like clipping weights to that thing? Well, you know how you can like cut the, like,

the webbing under your tongue? I think it helps extend it. Did he do that? What? You know the webbing under your tongue? This is going to make the ringer fantasy no context thing. You know the webbing under your tongue?

Yeah, you cut it gets longer. I think? Dude, I don't know. What am I saying? I have no idea. Why would you do that shit? Why would you do that? Google is telling me that it is a real tongue.

Nice. It's just that seven inches long. It's seven inches? Jesus. Dude, that is crazy. Holy shit. What's up with that? Like, is that a condition?

Why is it so long? That's a long. How long is your tongue? Not even close to seven inches. Oh, my God. Apparently there was a. It was a cow's tongue, but it's not a cow's tongue. Dude, how could you fake having a tongue?

This trivia that I'm, this like fact thing I'm seeing is that his tongue is reputed to be two inches longer than most men. I'm like, that's not like four or five inches longer than most men. Two inches? Come on. Let me see two inches is like that much. Yeah. What's the difference, really? Can you guys touch two inches? Can you guys touch your tongue to your nose?

Yeah, I can. What? Do it right now. Wow. I can't do that. I think I have a very short tongue. My tongue is a grower. Can you do the split thing?

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