The Ringer NFL Show - Week 3 Start or Sit, Injury Updates, and Key Matchups

Episode Date: September 22, 2023

The 24-Year-Old Who Can’t Find A Job Award, the Hot Tub Club (a.k.a. the players with injury concerns), the Loser Leaves Town Award, the It’s Raining Sideways Award, and much more (2:36). “You guys want to do some emails?” (51:56) Check out our Week 3 Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings, waiver wire pickups, and much more! Fanduel.com/ringerffs is live! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens and Jack Sanders Producer: Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We are a hot mess today. It's like the East Coast weather. We're nice one. We're going to start off here, week three, just the general vibes check heading into the weekend. Only one place to start with a vibes check. DK, start us off here. There's really only only one place. to begin a vibes check for week three.

Things are going sideways in Chicago. Yeah, the vibes aren't great in Chicago right now. There's a lot of things going on. The defensive coordinator has resigned. We're not going to talk about that right now. We're not sure exactly what's going on there. But the Justin Fields press conference was the talk of the town on Wednesday. And Justin Fields, I mean, look, I listened to it.

I think the context was more just like he's getting too much input and he's starting to think too much. and, you know, it's just like discombobulating in his head and he just needs to like play more freely and more more serenely, I guess, is the thing. But it came out like he was blaming the coaches for all of his struggles. So there was this whole big thing. But yeah, so that was mischaracterized. I would say so.

Serenity now! He's getting over inundated with information that he cannot process and he needs a simpler play-calling kind of agenda. I think it's not necessarily the play-calling. It's just how he plays. you guys, I asked you the other day, you haven't seen this movie, but in the movie The Last Samurai,

Tom Cruise, very famous actor, by the way, this is like right up there with you guys, I've heard of them, Legends of the Fall, but I'm not going to go there.

That's a more famous movie The Legends of the Fall. I 100% agree. It's wild that you guys haven't seen it. First of all, the Legends of the Fall thing, it's not that we hadn't seen it, it's that we hadn't fucking heard of it.

We've heard of the Last Samaras. I've heard of the last Samurai, and I would like to watch it. I've never heard of of the fall. Okay, that's a very fair point, Craig. Okay, good. Anyway, so in the movie, for those of you who have not seen it, he gets taken captive by a group of samurai in

like 1800s Japan. And he's like just wandering around their village. He's stuck there because he can't get out with all the snow in the passes. And so he just like wanders around. He starts learning how to do their sword fighting. And at one point in the movie, he's struggling. He's just having a hard time. And one of the other samurai comes up to him and it just says, like, excuse me.

me too many mind mind the sword mind the people watching mind the enemy no mind essentially tells him to stop thinking too much so much too much too yeah like he's just thinking about it like when i watch justin so when i watch justin feels this is exactly what it looks like to me he's just like thinking about the defense he's thinking about what you know coverage is he's supposed to read it's like it's all very robotic and that's the word he used robotic he's just like he needs to just go out there and not think but just just just vibe yeah just vibe out there and that's essentially what he was saying. This is a concept that's been, you know, pretty widely used in sports.

It's a from the inner game of tennis. I was talking to Nate Tice about this. This is something that Pete Carroll really subscribes to. Also, it's like quieting your mind. And Russell is a big believer in like getting yourself to neutral, like playing with a neutral mindset. And so I just think he didn't explain it very well, Justin Fields. But what he was trying to get at was like he just needs to go out there and play versus like going out there and trying to think too much. But anyways, it sounded like he blamed the coaches for his struggles, which is not a great look considering.

everything that's gone on so far. There was a video of him hugging his offensive coordinator today at practice, and they made sure that the camera saw. They were like pointing at the camera as they hug. That was funny. I loved it. They went, they went like straight,

you know, tip to tip on that hug. It was like very intimate and they held it for a while. I thought the vibes were really good. How else do you hug? You could do like a side hug, like a half out side hug. You could do like a bro hug.

Craig, you're the one that's talking about how there's too many handshakes. Like this was a full on just like they hugged each other. so I liked it. Okay. That was very genuine. All right. So we're high on Fields.

He went tip to tip with Luke Getsey, high on Fields. And they like held it. There's a solid three second. Like embrace. I liked it. Great. Great.

I still think it's like a, I think it's slightly concerning that it's like, Fields is like they're giving me too much. I'm thinking too much. I need to just go out there and vibe. Like is this what like are other quarterbacks getting this treatment? Or is this a sign that Fields is not as capable as kind of a processor as other quarterbacks.

I will say I think this is why athletes don't ask answer questions. Right. Because when you actually give an answer that's like thoughtful. Last answer he'll ever give. No, it's like everyone and every every quarterback. Like you saw the Steelers actually learned from this PR disaster because Matt Canada was like, you know what? Yep, it's all my fault because he didn't want the perception that he was shifting blame.

And so, but also as if you know what really douses the fire when you have all this going on, when the Chicago Bears are heading to the Kansas City Chiefs defending Super Bowl champion to play this week. And then your general manager, Ryan Poles, says, I actually looked this up because I saw this in Twitter and I was like, that's not real. Someone made it up. It is real. Ryan Poles Bears GM said, quote, to make it really, really clear, no one in our organization is panicking. And quote, which, you know what? Don't put it in the newspaper that we're panicking.

Don't. Nobody panic. Everyone stop panicking. Who brought a panic, man? Because we're not panicking. I just some Michael Scott stuff. Things are going great. Well, D.K., you've been railing.

You've been railing about the bears. You've been on, I think you've mentioned this actually every episode for the last two weeks, DK. Rightfully so, where it's like the bears are not using Justin Fields and designed runs. Justin Fields said what, the second most rushing yards in his season ever last year. And then they're just not using them on designed runs. And then Devin White, who's the linebacker for the bucks? No, no, he was talking to DJ Moore. He was talking to DJ more.

Oh, was he? Oh, well, I'm wrong. Okay, whatever. He was still talking to a player. The video is, he's like, they ain't using you right. Like, they ain't using, probably because DJ Moore used to be in the division, so that makes sense. But regardless, and I was like, oh, is this before the game after the game? And I'm like, there's like the trainer in the field with Gatorade bottles.

And I'm like, is this during a timeout? Is he telling them this during the game? Oh, no. Like, that's crazy. Like, click on the video. Like, I think this is during the freaking game. I'm like, how embarrassing must that be for the opponent to come up to?

Like, yeah, dude, they're not using read at all. This is a good indication of the vibes overall with the team. This is, okay, actually, this is a good example of why I'm such a huge proponent of them running fields. Because there is that, I think the counter argument is at some point you have to develop him into a pastor

or he's gone to stand. Because he ran for a thousand yards last year and they went three and 14. Right. And so the counter argument is at some point, you just have to like throw him in the deep end and hope he can get better as a passer. But my so, and I understand that. I get that. I think it's, there is some truth to that.

At the same time, though, I've always been a big believer that you have to give a guy like Justin Fields, especially a guy who's struggling like Justin Fields is, like some layups. You have to get their confidence going. You have to get like he's a streaky like three point shooter. You can't just come off the bench and just like brick a three and then like expect him to just be on fire or whatever. Like you have to kind of get him going. And that's why I think like them.

not using him in this way is so detrimental to the overall offense as a whole. It's like none of the receivers are happy. None of the offensive line aren't happy because he's taking all these sacks. Like he's not happy because he's really struggling. It's like you got to get the juices flowing. You got to get the confidence going. You know what I mean? Like there's more to development than just, oh yeah, you got to get good at passing.

You know, like there's a process here. And so I don't know, I just obviously there's a lot of different opinions on how you do that. But I think it's really detrimental to them that they're not like letting him get any confidence. like picking up a few first downs, moving the football, keeping the ball for a little while, because they're just going three and out every time. Is this the Costanza of the week? Play Justin Fields and Fantasy.

Yeah. Play DJ Moore, Bears like put money on the Bears money line, everything, because everything about this, what the line is almost 13 points for the Chiefs? I mean, at some point are we just like, what are we doing here?

I mean, I think they're going to lose by like 20, but I still think you should probably start Justin Fields. I would say there's a very high likelihood he runs for over 50 yards. Yeah, I agree. All right. Next award, Craig, a little vibes check here.

Yeah, this is the 24-year-old who can't find a job award for the most disappointing young players in the league. I feel like a parent and my son is two years out of college and I'm at dinner parties and I'm kind of running out of excuses. What's he up to? I'm like, well, he's thinking about business school. But right now he's mowing lawns. But yeah, hanging out with his friends a lot, playing fantasy football. That's how I feel about a lot of these young dudes who are killing us this year. Jamar Chase is the wide receiver 63.

You know what I mean? Joe Burrow, the only quarterback scoring less points in Joe Burrow is Zach Wilson. The only quarterback. He said that. Zach Wilson. That's, that's, that's, it's so bad. Tom Hanks and Castaway. Zach Wilson.

But there's a lot of get-right spots, right? Josh Jacobs has been terrible. He's averaging 23 rush yards a game. He's playing Pittsburgh. Najee Harris on the other side's playing Vegas. He's averaging four fantasy points a game. So a lot of guys, A.J. Browns, another one, Jamir Gibbs, George Kittle. A lot of these guys are, George Kittle will have

already played, because we're recording on Thursday and you're listening on Friday. But there's just so many guys, Damien Pierce has 26 carries for 69 yards this year, where this is probably the last week where you can make an excuse for them. Otherwise, your kid just might be a deadbeat. Who are you most worried about here? Honestly, on this list, it's probably still Najee Harris, who is, I mean, Jalen Warren's a better player than him. And I think, look, I just think Noggi's on the wrong team and on the wrong situation right now. The O line is so bad and this team can't create space for Naji and he needs it. Like this guy needs yards before contact to like get the wheels moving. And Jalen Warren is kind of the opposite. You can just give him the ball and he'll make something

happen. So I'm pretty scared for Noggi who's like made change his name to Trent Richardson next week. I think Steelers right now are the worst running team in the NFL. Like statistically speaking, they're by far the worst running team. I think I saw somewhere that Naji is averaging zero yards before contact per carry. Oh, that's the entire team. That's the entire team. The Steelers team is averaging zero yards before credit. That's not great.

They are not creating any sort of gaps for these guys to run through. And so I think the obvious answer here is like get the guy who's a little more elusive, a little more electric, more explosive, who can create a little bit more on his own. And I think that's Jalen Warren. And by the way, I don't know if we mentioned this the other day, but Mike Tomlin basically came out and said, I feel like he capitulated a little bit. And he's like, yeah, we're going to start playing Jalen Warren. and more. Like, he's earned it. I mean, it passes the eye test, right? I think the difference is that

if Nachie Harris plays, not plays well, if Natchie Harris has 70 yards in a touchdown on this game, you're relieved because, okay, now freaking maybe I can trade him. Whereas with Josh Jacobs, you're like, all right, too bad weeks, I'm disappointed. But if you have a third back week in a row, you're like, did I get a lemon? But you're not worried about that yet. Nashi, it's more like, you're just hoping he does something to like flip him because I think we're done with him. He's the bylaw of all bylaws. Another guy we haven't really talked about who's been disappointing is Damien Pierce. Yeah, that's a great point. Texans had four linemen out last week. I mean, the problem is not him. Damien Pierce is good. Like I said, 26 carries 69 yards.

Like he's doing nothing and this team is getting blown out. And like, he's not playing that much anymore. He's basically on the field like 40, 50% of the game. And Devin Singletary is like the two-minute guy, the passing down guy, the third and long guy. And they're playing the Jags again this week. And if the Texans can't like put things together offensively, Damien Pierce just might be one of these dudes who just can't stay on the field because the game's never close. I think the, the thesis with Pierce was always that he was going to be on the field a lot. And I guess like the support behind that is that he's just so good, right? Like he looks so awesome as a rookie.

But this is a, you know, different team now, a different quarterback, all that stuff. And he's really not playing on third down. Craig, I'm looking at the numbers right now. Different coach. Yeah, they've got, they've got him on the field for 18% of the third downs so far this season, which is he's losing a lot of very valuable targets and routes in those situations. And so basically you're just, he right now is touchdown our. bust. And this is a team that's playing from behind almost all the time. So it's just not,

it's just not coming together for me. I still agree with you the guys, though. I think he's a good player, but I've got him on my bench right now. I mean, this team could end up being like the Blake Bortles Jacks, where Blake Bortles was actually a pretty good fantasy option. And a lot of the receivers are pretty good, the Allen Robinson guys, because it was just all garbage time. I mean, Stroud had great numbers last week, but it was because they just put on a clinic in the fourth quarter when they were getting killed. Right. Exactly. Next up here. So there's a weird tree of quarterbacks that may or may not play this week. So we've got Joe Burrow, who sounded, I don't know, morose or Zen.

I don't know which one was about his injury. He's definitely super hurt and trying to be a tough guy. And so, well, the Bengals are playing the Rams this week, which I think outside of the division is more meaningful than any game because, you know, the Bengals lost to the Super Bowl rematch. Oh, yeah. The idea of Burrow missing it. But he said, and then you got Bryce Young for the Panthers, which already sounds like

Bryce Young is not going to play in week two with an ankle injury. Andy Dalton's going to play for the Panthers. And you got Anthony Richardson is. still out Thursday with a concussion in a practice Thursday. We'll see about Friday. I would say short answer is if Anthony Richardson practice is Friday, he will play. And if not, then we really don't know. Anthony Richardson would be with Gardner-Minshoe.

I have thoughts on the rookie quarterbacks, but I won't talk about the Bengals first. Burroughs said specifically, not as about the calf, not a sore, time heals. So we'll see. Thanks, Joe. Cool. That does not help us at all. Does it inspire confidence either? For fantasy purposes, usually we're like, oh, if they play, play them.

I'm like, Joe Burrow, how many yards does he have more than Army? Or sorry, a Navy? Like, barely. Like, he's basically a, he's, does he even have 300 yards on this season? He's better than that. Like, I actually don't think you should play Joe Burrow. And also the fact that he's Monday night, whoever your backup is, like, you can't risk it. I actually think you have to not play Jeroborrow because unless you have one of,

there's two Monday night games. There's two Monday night games again this week. But I don't know. Put it, I'll put it this way. I'm, I have him. So in one quarterback leagues, I don't think you should play him. I think you should just pick up someone else. pick up somebody that's healthy.

There's probably multiple guys on the waiver wire right now that you could feel a little bit better about. I've have him in a couple dynasty leagues where we're in Super Flex leagues. I'm still sitting him. That's like the point it's gotten to. Yeah. Where I'm like,

I'm starting basically any healthy quarterback over Joe Burrow until he shows us something. It's literally, Craig said it. He has fewer passes than freaking Zach Wilson. Like that is alarming. We got to see it happen first. So I don't know. I'm pretty worried about it.

I think because there was like some indications, some talk from Bengals fans that he might sit out like, Three or four weeks. Well, he should because he aggravated. When he got hurt, the whole thing was the problem with the calf injury is that you can aggravate it. And then you don't know when to come back. Well, he came back for week one.

And now it's aggravated. Now we're going to aggravated a third time. And it's like, as Craig said, the day that Burroughs calf got hurt, Kevin Durant, Achilles, we just saw Iron Roger's tearing Achilles. Like that, it's not a big deal of Burroughs. Don't say it. It really isn't. I know, Hyve, it's my God.

Stop saying it. No, it would. If I, like a jinx is if I said that he'd be fine. No, you're putting it into existence. Yeah, you're putting it into the world. God wasn't even thinking about Burrow. And then he was like, what did I if it's just say? Oh, that's right.

He hurt his cap. Streis and effect. Here's my. Now I really wanted to get hurt. God. God, don't. It's so funny. Streis and effect.

God. Here's my actual question, though, for the Bengals. Like, forget fantasy just for real life. Why is Jake Browning their quarterback? Like, if Joe Burrow sits and Jake Browning does not play well. Jake or Jerry? Edgewater's just on the lines. Does it matter, Craig?

We don't know. I've never played NFL football. Like, why is their backup? They also, they had a month. It was Joe Burrow missed all this time. Why didn't they get Teddy Bridgewater? It's like, if Jake Browning better be freaking good if he plays in this game, right? It's kind of odd to me.

They're 0 and 2. It's a big deal to win this game. I didn't know Jake Browning has been in the league since 2019. That sounds, that actually is really horrifying because I remember when Jake Browning was in college. And so that actually is really set. Who do you guys think are the best backup quarterback in the NFL right now?

I would say Andy Dalton. Andy Dalton maybe. Well, on that note, on that note, the rookie quarterbacks, I'm curious for you guys. Can you ever, you know how Bill has put this really weird system he does where he ranks all the players

by what he thinks the odds would move on like a point spread if the player missed the game. So Mahomes is at 10. Can you ever remember a week where like two quarterbacks are out and I think the teams are going to have better lines? Like, Bryce Young being ruled out for the Panthers. The line's going to move toward the Panthers, right? Like, the Panthers are going to, like, be better.

Like, people are going to say the Panthers have better odds to win the game now that Andy Dalton's playing. Probably the Colts too, the Gardner-Minchie, right? The Seahawks, text chains that I'm on are sad right now that Andy Dawkins is playing. I'll put it that way. But, yeah, I think, in terms of backup quarterbacks, the 49ers, this is sad to say, but Sam Darnold, I think, is a good backup quarterback. I think Andy Dalton's probably one of the best backup quarterbacks.

He's certainly one of the most experienced here. I think Mitch and Dalton are one and two. Yeah. To your point, though, Hyphitz, it is weird how teams approach the backup quarterback position, I feel like. Because there's a fine line they have to walk between, and I don't think it matters with Burrow at all. This is not a Burrow situation. But for some guys, especially young guys, you don't want to get, you want like, you don't want the backup quarterback to be too good. You know what I mean?

Like where fans, fans start clamoring for that guy. Yeah, and so I don't know. This certainly doesn't have anything to do with Bengals because Joe is the guy, but it is kind of weird how some of these teams treat the backup position. Like they're not going to need this guy? Like can't you do better than Jake Browning, who I have never seen play, I feel like? I don't know. I mean, you know who was the best backup quarterback was it was now that we know, it was Jordan Love.

No, that's true. That's true. And also it's like the Eagles just won the Super Bowl with Nick Foles like five years ago. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I just hope Jake Browning doesn't have to play. No offense, Jake. I hope not.

But then also for the rookies, I feel like if Anthony Richardson plays, it's actually better if Gardner-Minshu plays. If you have Zach Moss in the cults, I'm more likely... If Anthony Richardson's playing, then you're going to play Anthony Richardson a quarterback. But if Anthony Richardson sits, if you have Zach Moss, I feel like you're more likely to play him at running back with Gardner-Minshoe. And then maybe even better for Michael Pittman, too. Zach wants it like 90% of his points with Gardner-Minshu in that game. Yeah. And Zach Moss was playing like Christian McCaffrey-level minutes.

I mean, he was on the field, like 97% of the sands. No other running back got a snap in that game in the last game. That's so weird. Also, did you know that Zach Moss is Santana Moss's cousin? I found that out today. Did we confirm that? Yeah, Ian Hardett's on Twitter. Confirms true?

No, he just tweeted it. So that means it's true, I think. I think that's the rule. You can't tweet something if it's not true, right? Yeah, you can't lie. Elon must, he set that in motion, yeah, so. Right. No, that's actually true.

No, it's actually on the, this is on the Colts website, actually. He's cousins with four manifold receivers Santana and Sinner Reese Moss. Remember that song in Madden that was like Santana Moss? I don't. I have a confession. I didn't really ever play Madden except for like way back in the day. I'm not going to lie, DK. I don't mean this in any type of way.

I actually never realized how old you were until you, like I played Tecmo Bowl. Because I thought of like Bill who was like 50. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Birthday week for Bill. It was like 53. I thought of Bill playing Tecmo Bowl. I mean, you said that I was like, oh my God. I think I'm just as close to Bill as I am to you guys.

I'm right in the middle. No, it's Bill. It's exact. Bill is 24 years older than Craig and I. think, and you're 12 or 13 years older. You're the exact median between us. I had this realization the other day. This is so random, but I've lived my entire 30s and you guys aren't to 30.

Like, I think that's so weird. Because, like, I know Craig was saying he's a little bit, he's just, you know, he sees the 30 mark coming up. It's just a little bit daunting. And I'm like, I've already lived my entire fucking 30s. Like, I'm already, I'm staring down 41 at this point. It's fucking weird. The thing I think that's, we need, we don't talk about enough is, what age do you

think that after that your life experience actually matters? Is it like 12? Is it 18? Like at what point did you actually 16? When did you actually start learning about the world around you? It's different for everyone, of course. You're 12 years older than us, but you've been over that age twice as long. So you actually have twice as much life experience. I think when you get past people, this is a good email prompt. Let us know what you think. I think if you for me specifically, after you get past 35, it everything sort of changes. Oh my God. I thought you were saying, like, like 11. Dude,

well, for me specifically, like I was very naive. I mean, still am kind of, but like all through my 20s, just kind of an idiot. Just kind of,

you know, I kind of think D.K. I don't know. I kind of think your 30s don't exist and you're in your 20s until you're in your 40s. And usually it's like having a kid is kind of a split. Well, I'm saying like,

I think people who are 33 and childless, like I don't think their life is that much different than a 28-year-old. But if you're 33 and you have a kid, you're immediately 40. So I honestly feel like you are in your 20s until you have a kid and then you are in your 40s. Yes. I think actually that's a really good way of putting it. Honestly, I had a kid at 37.

And I would say that obviously that's a huge inflection point in my life. But like a couple of years before that I was on the path towards like having a family and I bought a house and like kind of like becoming an actual adult. Because I was I was very much just like kind of wandering through life for like a long time. Basically all my 20s and half of my 30s. You were like Tom Cruise. in Last Samurai, just kind of wandering around. Yeah, exactly. You know, I was stuck in this village.

James Cook, Bill's running back, just had a kid that he's 23 years old. I'm like, all right, well, he's in his 30s now. Now he's in his 40s. DiCaprio, his ass, done with him. From a parent's point of view, there's no way of telling someone what it's like to be a parent, I would say. Yeah. It's just, it changes your entire worldview. And I would say, like, parents out there, let me know if you feel the same way.

But I would say, like, you kind of join this club and you're like, holy shit, I'm responsible for this life now. So it definitely changes your priorities. But there's it also like, I think when I had a kid, I decided I didn't need to even pretend to be young anymore kind of deal. Like I'm like, I'm accepting. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You hit your 40s. Yeah. So it is a fascinating psychological thing.

What the fuck are we talking about? We're talking about Chargers Vikings, baby. A.K.A. the Owen Two Bowl. Luzer leaves town perhaps. Coach gets fired. They're not going to fire. O'Connell, but they might fire Brandon Staley this year if the Chargers

keep losing, man. So this game's hilarious because these are the two teams that just like love to lose close games. And it's like, who's going to blow the fourth quarter more? The Chargers or the Vikings? They're very similar teams. They both have awesome offenses. They put up a lot of points. They have shitty defenses. And they kind of

have unearned expectations. The offenses are firing right now. Kirk is the number one quarterback in fantasy. I don't feel like we've talked about that. I love that. Dude. Okay. Wait, on that note. I'm that note. We got an email. I'm sorry. I forget who sent us. I forget your name, but someone emailed us saying that they did a league with like basically their

family and another family and that they did it because everyone, all the families have been watching the Netflix series quarterback. The first three picks in their fantasy draft. It's not a Superflex, regular league. First three picks were Mahomes, Kirk Cousins, Mariotta. And the dads were like, oh, yep, all right. Mariotta. And then meanwhile, the

person who took Kirk Cousin's second is in first place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Smart move. Savvy move. I feel like this is the story of this this season is all these people who accidentally pick someone are in first place. Can I ask you guys though? Of these two teams, who do you trust the least? Chargers? I don't know why. Dude, one of the best posts I've ever written for the ringers, I have a

history of Chargers set this. And I actually broke it into eras. It's like epics. I know I went through every bad Chargers loss for the last 20 years and I actually divided them. And it's like I went, I did a deep dive. And what's crazy is they're all the same. Yeah. They're all the same. It's in your DNA.

It is actually insane how little cross the head coaching things from like Mike McCoy, you know, Anthony Lynn, Schottnheimer. It's insane how North Turnow similar all these things are. The loss last week of the charges losing to Mike Vrable was the most predictable thing, even though it didn't see a guy. Mike Vrable's the best guy after Belichick and the in-coach stuff. I think Brandon Staley's done if they lose this week. You think he fired this week?

No, but he's there. is no freaking chance he will make it. The only reason they won't fire him is because they don't want to have to pay his contract out because the charge just don't have a lot of money. But like the odds of you making the playoffs at 0 and 2 is like 1 in 10. If you're 0 in 3, the odds are like 1 in 50. So that means they're going to miss the playoffs with Justin Herbert two out of three years. And the year they did made it.

They have the worst playoff loss of like the last 10 years. Was that the Raiders game? I can't remember. The Jaguars game. Yeah, the Jax. They were up 28 zero or whatever it was. Jaguars came back. One, first of a wait, did you see Staley saying,

we're not upset about the Jaguars lost? No one's thinking about it. Ask anyone in this locker room. Don't put it in the newspaper that we're mad about it. It's like when the Falcons were insisting they were over 28 to 3 for an entire year. It's like, no, you don't get over that. It's like, has that reminds me, have you guys ever heard of the term institutional memory? Oh, yeah.

It's like, I'm sure there's lots of ways to define it. It's like essentially like the held beliefs and, techniques and tools and things that a company has to sort of like get through challenges and things like that's like I'd say like the Patriots have a lot of institutional memory because they've been through every fucking scenario in the last 20 years or whatever, you know what I mean? You know what the charges are like? They're like the Shining Hotel. A new proprietor comes in every summer and goes absolutely insane and starts killing people.

Exactly. It doesn't matter who comes in. It's the same product. there's something there's something there even if they move cities you know i will say though so i want just on the herbert thing i saw the stat this week and this blew my mind well that's because i think herbert's about to get a lot of crap right it's already starting yeah since just and herbert became the starter the charges have allowed 34 points in a game nine different times yeah nine times they've allowed 34 points that's the same as patrick mahomes lamar jackson and joe burrow combined

like they combined have seen 34 points in regular season game and herbert actually won two of the nine games. My home's Lamar and Burrow only won one of the nine. So I'm like, Brandon Staley is supposed to be defensive guy. Like, like, it's office base. Like, what would you say you do here? This is the other thing. It's like he was the analytics God and like going for it on fourth downs and stuff. And he's been that he's had that beaten out of him by the media, you know, and like, what's his thing? What's your thing now? Staley also, as Craig would say, Brandon Staley's age like Barack Obama in office. It's like, you see him like, we're one. You're like, what a young guy. And now it's like, God, he looks

presidential gray. Yeah. Oh my God. It's got to be, it's got to be so tough. Not to like, I'm not trying to empathize with, with them necessarily because it's like they're getting paid a lot of money. But that'd be a tough job. People just fucking getting bad at you for three straight years of failure. I mean, dude, consider Sean McVeigh is like the most successful young coach ever and is still like, man, this is hard. I might call it.

Does it worth it? None of these guys are happy. Well, that's the thing. None of these guys are happy. Except Arthur Smith. Arthur Smith is thrilled. Because he's not a millennial. because he loves trolling us.

It's because he's a billionaire. That too. This is just his hobby. Yeah, maybe it doesn't matter. Play with house money. God damn it. Drake London doesn't care. None of them care.

The whole team, they don't care. You know what? Yeah. Arthur Smith's just like, you know what? This is better than running FedEx. Arthur Smith was like, hey, Drake London, I'm going to give you FedEx stock. So you're good, man.

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the game is just dripping in tea. You got the, you got two teams that drafted running backs in the top 12. Amon Rast St. Brown's dad was Mr. Universe. So, you know, he's high in tea. It's like, this is just a high tea game. I kind of can't wait. Kiss it on the mouth. Sorry. He's going to have his eyes glued to the screen for this one. Oh, you bet I am, dude. These are the two happiest coaches in the league, in my opinion. These are the only two guys loving their job, getting up every morning with a pep in the staff. Do you think it's because they're high in tea?

Well, I don't know if Dan Campbell drinks tea. I know he drinks coffee. He means testosterone. I know. Come on. Dude, you got me. You got me. I thought you actually continue.

I ruined the joke. Craig, you should also pretend that when you got the, the URL wrong for fantasy football.3.com, but that was also a bit. I hadn't had my coffee yet, but now I'm good. All right, hold on. Do you guys want to go through a quick list of the happiest NFL coaches because this is kind of funny to me? Well, we're putting Campbell and Arthur Smith, right? They're happy. Yeah, and Pete Carroll, I would say Pete Carroll is really happy, but not high tea.

He's got to be high tea to be the oldest coach and still going, right? Yeah, this is how he still has the energy. We do need the graph, the quadrant of high tea versus happy and then, Miserables. I think Andy Reid's happy. Yeah. Siriani, Siriani's happy. John Harbaugh. Is he happy? No. No chance. I like the idea. It's like, would you consider yourself happy? No.

Harbaugh's intense. Harbaugh's too intense to be happy. Sean Payton, is he loving life right now? I think he probably actually enjoys that Russell Wilson's not great because then he can lay down the hammer and save the team kind of thing. Yeah, he likes playing this role. You know what I mean? Mike McCarthy? 2 and O after Kellynne Moore leaves. He's calling plays.

They look awesome. I think he's low key the happiest coach in the NFL right now. That's a good take. That's a good take. Belichick is low. Belichick, I mean, when the Patriots won the Super Bowl against the Falcons, I will never forget the confetti falling on Bill Belichick. And he's like, and they're like, how do you feel?

And he's like, oh, we got a lot of work to do. I think we're like three weeks behind on scouting. I don't know what we're going to do for the combine. And I'm like, dude, this guy's, never been happy a moment of his life. So, well, bottom two, bottom two here. Sala? He's having, he's having a hellation.

Super high in tea. Crazy tea. Maybe too high. Sadness and tea. Not a good combo. Jonathan Cannon. Sadden tea. Cannon!

He's like the bottom left of the grass. He's probably bummed. Stefanski's going to be out of here in about six weeks. He said a tough run. Yeah. honestly, I can I can never remember two coaches of teams

that actually had expectations this season, I feel like they are just done so early. Stefansky and Staley, I'll be really surprised that those dudes have their jobs. And I'm like,

those teams are supposed to like be Super Bowl contenders. It's not really three yet. This is incredible. Dennis Allen's probably happy. Dennis Allen, Saints, two and O.

Sure. Easy division. Mike McDaniel? Isn't Mike McDaniel happy? I think the two-a-thing is a little unnerving at all times. It's a tension. I don't know if he can truly relax.

He seems happy, though. He's just, like, kind of happy-go-lucky. He's, like, the biggest, like, meme lord in NFL coach history. Did you guys see where he ran away from the camera? Yeah. Even though he's older than, like, McVeigh and these guys still, he is the youngest at heart and the most, like, internet savvy. Yeah.

And really plays into that. He's, like, a comedy writer that became a coach. Yeah. I have never actually. thought I had, I think we have more in common with Mike McDaniel than the other head coaches have in common with Mike McDaniel. I think so. And the fact that he's turned, he turned like the combine pressers into like a joke.

I forget it was with either Dan Patrick or might have been Schrager, but he basically made a bet that he could insert like six cliches that gave him into his answers. But I feel like now he's doing that instead of football. Like people are just texting him stuff to Dan. He's doing it on purpose. Like him to do stuff. Oh my God. So, Haif, it's that interview that we're talking about.

I'm trying to remember exactly what he said. He was like, yeah, you know, we got to clean some things up, but people are playing hard. You know, I'm not doing anything. It's players. They're all doing, you know, they're doing their jobs. You've got to clean a few things up and come out here in the second half and not make mistakes. It was like the just cliche after cliche after cliche, it's like he's winning a bet. You know what I think I saw Nate Tice tweet that.

He's like, it's like he has a bet about how many cliches he could fit into an interview. It was so good. I love it. I know someone who ended up in an Uber. with Mike McDaniel because they're at the combine and they introduced themselves and Mike McDaniel says with this totally straight face

they're like oh yeah I'm the you know this person I do X and he's like yeah I'm fold the t-shirts in the Tennessee Titans pro shop so with a totally straight face yeah dude he's like he's like always on a reality show or something oh my god

anyway all right The Chargers Vikings should be a good game. That is the loser leave home game. I also want to while we're here, we got to talk about the, and now that YouTube, shout at YouTube TV,

multi-view. There's a multi-view of death this weekend. Oh my God. D.K. mentioned Chiefs Bears. Line is basically 13 points. Then we got Josh Dobbs and the Arizona Cardinals facing the Dallas Cowboys,

which I mean, just seems like a ritual sacrifice. And then we got Zach Wilson and the Jets facing the Patriots defense. And Zach Wilson basically got benched. The last time they played, remember the Patriots had the walkoff punt. And that was the game was like 10 to 3 and they couldn't move the ball. And that was like where Zach Wilson.

We thought Zach Wilson's career was over after the Patriots game. Craig, you made the joke yesterday that we should have a multi-view of death where it's these three games. And then we put on like Pulp Fiction as the fourth one. Just see which one has the most blood and gore. It's just the end of any Tarantino movie you want. It's just a compilation of the last 10 minutes of every Tarantino movie. It's just like Brad Pitt beating the shit out of Austin Butler. and once upon a time in Hollywood

as Jack Wilson is getting sacked over and over. Josh Dobbs in a gimp suit. Oh, my God. I'm not sure what's going to be more bloody, to be honest. Yeah, this is a disaster slate. This just happened Thursday afternoon. Trivon Diggs, Dallas cornerback, tour his ACL. Oh, did he?

That's crazy. At practice. Yes. Yeah. At practice. That sucks. That sucks. I feel like.

Well, there was such a, so nowadays there's just. not that many really elite defenses. And it's just fun to have at least one or two, you know, floating around that are just like beating on teams, you know? And that sucks. I mean, he's a big, you know, takeaway creator for them. And so it's obviously going to affect them. It sucks.

Yeah, he just signed a huge contract. And I feel like Cowboys fans just accepted that, okay, wait, this actually might be the year. And now all the kids, like, since watching that destruction of the Giants Jets back to back, and now four days later, though, like, you know what? Why did I believe in this team? Maybe Mike McCarthy's not so happy anymore. While we're on the Jets Patriots game, we've got to do a little weather report too.

East Coast, you guys wouldn't know anything about weather or, you know, adversity out there on the West Coast. It's sunny out here on the sunny Pacific coast. A lovely day here in Los Angeles. Sky is blue. I'm going to go for a walk later. Here on the East Coast, we should get rain to feed our crops.

Crops. Doesn't California provide most of the crops for America? No, I don't think so, Craig. That's not right? Pretty sure California provides a lot of food for the Midwest. That's the most California-ass thing I've ever heard. Don't we feed everyone? I'm looking it up.

I'm not saying California doesn't provide any crops, but I think you're missing the whole Midwest with corn and all that. We don't eat corn in California. You don't eat corn. Oh, my God. Anyway, well, Craig Googles that. There's actually a huge storm hitting the East Coast this weekend. We're recording this Thursday.

I know he's Googling. The obvious caveat, we don't know what's going to happen. It's Thursday. Check the weather Sunday. It's Ophelia. It's a sub-tropical storm. I don't know what that means. It's just a tropical storm.

But it's going to hit like the Carolinas and then go north. So that, yeah. So, well, really, waning. Wainting. Jeez. What is going on? Rainy. Really?

Really. But the bills are at Washington. All right. She's a loony tunes. But the bills are Washington, the culture of Baltimore and the Patriots are at the Jets. There is a chance that there is a month's worth of rain dumped on places in the East Coast over like a 24-hour period. So obviously it could end.

And it's going to start like Saturday in the Carolinas. It'll go through like at some point Monday. The rain could be over and it won't matter. But also like check the weather. If you have any of these past catchers, like don't just blindly throw in Jahan Dotson or Michael Pittman in. If you're going to have like Gardner Minsh threw it Michael Pittman in a, you know, subtropical storm.

We don't know right now. But that could be ugly, especially Mack Jones for sack woolson of the rain. I think weather is actually very underrated in fantasy and people need to pay more attention to it. It is a huge factor in these games. And like you should really just be. checking, like, look at game totals on, on Fandle. And you can see if a game with the Bills has a total in the, in the high 30s or low 40s, you know something's up. And you should

not be starting guys when it's pouring rain. I mean, we've seen millions of times like Bill's Patriots games where they throw the ball three times. Like, that stuff happens like every year now. There are a couple games in the September, October months like that. So definitely be wary. Also, I have some stats for you guys. Oh, throw them at us. That's some stats. California produces over a third of the country's vegetables and three quarters of the country's fruits and nuts. Holy shit.

I think people don't realize how big California is. Okay, but what about grain? Gigantic state. Again, we don't eat those in California. God damn. Just saying, fruits and veggies are from Cali, baby. I think it's wild how big California is. It takes you like 18 hours to drive across California or something like that.

How long does it take you to get from like San Diego to Oregon? San Diego to San Francisco is eight hour drive. Okay. But the top half of California is the most like under recognized massive hunk of land in the country. Like from San Francisco to Oregon is like another eight hours. It is just nothing up there. I drove one time from, I drove from Tacoma to L.A. one time. And it took 24 hours straight.

All right. That's crazy. Because Atlanta to Miami is like a 10-hour drive. It might be more than that. But San Francisco to Oregon, is that actually eight hours? That's insane. San Francisco to Oregon is, yeah, seven, eight hours. It's a long drive.

People underestimate how big the top half of California is. Because there's no past Sacramento, nobody considers anything up there. But there's like a whole other third of the state. Yeah, I'm just looking at a map right now of San Francisco, Craig. San Francisco is like in the middle of California. That's wild. I think my favorite Instagram post I've seen in the last calendar year is there was this Instagram post that had like eight different ways that maps have obscured things about the world,

like facts about the world that you didn't realize were true because of maps. One of them that was like, I got to pull it up because it, oh, it was Africa's wider than Russia. Oh, wow. Wow. Did not know that. And it was like all, but just the way that you can't portray a sphere flat without completely, like you know about Greenland, but the same thing happens.

of Russia. There were like a bunch of things like that that were crazy. I had that close my mind. Emails at Ringer Fantasy Football at Gmail.com if you have other map stuff. Cool map facts. I saw a stand-up bit by this comedian and she was talking about how men just love to Google the populations of cities. Dude, I saw that, okay? She was like she was like women talk about things and men talk about stuff.

Yeah. I'm sorry. She was like look up the name of the comedian. I know. I apologize. I'm going to be able to find her. But yeah, it was so funny. She was just like, women talk about like political activism and issues going on in the country. And men talk about the population of cities. Men are like, how many people live in Minneapolis? It's so fucking good.

It's so true, though. That's just an extension of men being like, I bet I can fill up more water in this cup than you can until it actually spills out. Men just do anything they can to avoid like real serious conversation. And they're just constantly trying to come up with stupid. trivia or games to kind of fill the time. Anyway, speaking, which, did you guys see that fantasy football? Did you see that Pookinakua getting breakfast with Cooper Cup and the Rams now?

I knew it. I said this. Do you think like Van Jefferson is like, okay, so I guess I just missed the invite or how does that get decided? Is Matt Stafford sent a text? He's not, you know, he's probably on his phone when Matt's trying to talk to them, you know, the disconnect. Like, like, does Van Jefferson like pass the dining area? and just see Pooka Nukuoka, Cooper,

Cup, and Matt Stafford, like having an omelet. And he's just like, it's like mean girls and you can't go sit with them. How does that work? It's like, he's like, sitting over there like Stephen fucking Glansburg. 2-2-out well? He's not invited. I guess Cam Acres certainly wasn't invited to breakfast.

That's for sure. Oh, my God. D.K., I think you said it as a joke that they were getting breakfast. And then now they're actually, like Jordan, they reported they actually are. The most important thing in fantasy is just who's eating who, Who's eating breakfast with whom? Who is Matt Stafford dining with?

Craig, I was having this conversation. I was having this thought the other day, though. It was like, I had, I have Van Jefferson on so many teams just because I stashed him, like on my dynasty teams. I'm like, why can't Van Jefferson be Pooka Nakua? You know? Like, why can't he just have freaking breakfast with Matt Stafford? I'd be like winning all my leagues. I'd be freaking having the time of my life.

Instead, Pooka Nakuwa comes in here and just steals the thunder. It's why I love fantasy football and football in general. is that you, like, at the end of the day, there was not a single person on the planet who was like, Pooka Nakua is going to be a star and easily the best wide receiver. I mean, like, nobody even would have said he's going to be the best receiver on the Rams

before Cooper Cup comes back. Like, everybody would have been like, well, we think Higby is going to be, oh, Cam Acres is probably going to be the guy. Oh, you know, Van Jefferson could, you know, he secretly had 800 yards two years ago. I just love that, you know, nobody actually knows what's going on inside four walls.

Right. Of a team. All right. We have big news. Huge. Massive. Huge. We've talked to Fandle. And the Ringer Fantasy Football Show, we're going to get our own Fandil contest. It's going to run from week three to week 10.

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It's in the episode description. We'll tweet it out. Link in that description, baby. everything's in that description. Everything you could ever need is in the description. You want to know what we talk about and when? Description. Craig's stretching regimen.

Yeah. I did get a couple of people being like, hit me with that stretching link, bro. I'm serious. I want you to send it to me. Okay. I do want it. I will. You have to pay me on behalf of this person who I'm copying.

We're going to be participating in the Fandal lineup, obviously. So we're going to go through our lineups here each week. And again, fendal.com slash ringer, FFS. Craig, do you want to lead off here with who you're actually playing in the contest this week? What are you building your team around here? Yeah, I'm going to give my star and my scrub. So my star this week, I'm not overthinking it. I often do this in daily where I try to get cute.

I'm not. Justin Jefferson, he's the most expensive wide receiver, and they're playing the Chargers. The Chargers are giving up the most yards per pass in the NFL, and Justin Jefferson doesn't have a touchdown yet somehow, and he's the wide receiver five this year. So Jefferson's my star. That game's going to have like 85 points in it.

And my scrub, I went cheap at tight end. I went with my boy Chigacacanquo. on the Titans. They're playing the Browns. The Browns are really stingy against the run. Tight end is such a wasteland. The one thing Chig has that most of the tight ends don't is explosive ability. And this is the week to me that Chig is going to kind of reach the potential that we thought he had and give me a 40-yard touchdown,

which would make him the highest scoring titan in the last five years, I believe. D.K. All right. So I'm sticking with the high T theme here. my star, Bijon Robinson going up against Detroit. I think this is going to be kind of like a weirdly high scoring,

high flying game. And I think the way that they've utilized Bijon Robinson's so sick and so fun and they're probably going to continue to expand what he's doing. I know that his like his running back rush share went up from week one to one, week two. I think they're kind of still like kind of easing him in.

He's just so freaking good. I just want to have that on my team. So I'm going with him as my star. He's nine grand. And then my scrub is a guy that we all like here. Rashid Chaheed receiver for the Saints, who is, I want to say Greg Rosendahl said it. It's like every time the Saints want to go into winning mode, anytime they want to play the game winning play, they just pass it to Rashid Shaheed. He's just so freaking explosive. And so I want to get a little bit of that.

I think he can, he's a type of guy who can survive on a lower target rate just because he has the explosive play potential. So he's he's like turning into this player that the bigger the sample gets, the more I think he might just be an elite receiver. You know what I mean? Like because he did it on like a handful of snaps last year. But every time he gets an opportunity, he's like turning it into a big play. I think Rashid Jihad is just really good.

I totally agree with you and Rashid Shaheed. I'm kind of jealous on you saying that just there. Like I kind of wish I put Shaheed in my lineup. I did what Craig did. I kind of stacked the Vikings in this Vikings Chargers game. I put Kirk and I put Justin Jefferson together. Jefferson's my star. It's probably not the best strategy

because I feel like he'll probably be on like one out of every three teams. I also put KJ Osborne in there. It's kind of my scrub. I kind of just want it. I feel like Osborne. He's actually running more routes

than Jordan Addison. I love Jordan Edison, but I think Osport's kind of like the cheap play. The other guy out threw out, at tight end, I kind of love Dalton Schultz this week. Dalton Schultz is not a sexy player.

He hasn't done anything for Houston, but I think that bang for your buck, the combo of how many people will actually have them on their teams and then I just, weirdly, I think he could just have a really good game against the Jaguars. I think Dalton Schulz is also a really good scrub. Vikings, baby. Good garbage time potential.

Deka, I love what you're saying about a shootout between two teams that run the ball. But what is a shootout between two teams that run. Is that like a car chase? I think what I was getting out is this is going to be high scoring. There's just going to be a lot of plays. I think they are both going to have to pass a little bit in this game and run more plays than normal because every... No, but the high fits... High Fitz touch is on a good point here.

shootout is a lot of passing in a high-scoring game. What's a high-scoring game that features a lot of Russian called? Yeah. Cannonball Run. Cannonball Run? You know what Cannonball Run is? No. I think it's an old-school term, probably.

That's why you guys don't get it. It's like a big race across the country in cars. Okay. It was a movie. Hold on. I'm going to Google. What about this? What about this?

A shootout is like modern warfare, right? It's like the new advanced version of like football and offense. So running is like hand-to-hand combat. It's like a fist fight. It's like a bar fight. It's like a bar fight. Bar fight. That's good.

I like that a lot, actually. Plus, like a Dan Campbell, probably best coach in the league for a bar fight. Can you imagine Dan Campbell and Arthur Smith fighting? Just single combat. They're going to say, screw this game. We're sending out our champions.

And it's just going to be Arthur Smith versus Dan Campbell at midfield. Just wrestling. It makes more sense than kicking a field goal to decide a game, in my opinion. it's honestly true. You know what they say about like a great friend Bails you out of jail but your best friend sitting in jail next to you? Like that's damn kid. That's really funny. I've never heard that.

All right. You guys want to do some emails? Emails. Yeah. Email from Sean Combs. It actually was Sean Combs. I couldn't believe. Did he? He did he? Yeah.

Okay. He said that the subject line is I picked up Kyle Pitts off of waivers and the email just says, I was 10th in the waiver order. dot dot dot. It's dark out there, you guys. No one likes him anymore. It's tough.

Everybody's ridden that ride. No one picked up with cowfitz. We also got more emails about dad emojis. This is from Tyler. Tyler. Tyler. This is, when Red Dead Redemption 2 came out,

my dad went and bought a PlayStation 4 exclusively to play Red Dead Red Dead Redemption. He texted me a picture of the console and the Red Dead Redemption game with three Eggplan emojis. I told him, I don't know if you know what that means. And then my dad responded, oh, I know exactly what it means with more eggplate emojis and then the water emoji. Dads can be funny.

That's actually incredible. That dad is kind of a comedic genius. I'm not a normal dad. I'm a cool dad. Yeah. Is that Mike McDaniel? Is that this guy's dad? Oh, my God.

Have you ever seen, you know, Mero from D. and Mero. He is a joke about like, you'll always punk your sons because he's like, I like to rap battle with my sons because if they ever beat me, worst case,

he'll just drop a line where I'm like, I shot you out of my dick. Yep. They got to remember that. The kids need to remember that. The kids need to remember that. Know where you came from. Came,

came. Good one, Craig. That's good. Oh, my. He's a cool dad. I've been trying to curse D.K. I've been saying, well, it's 3752 episodes in a row without the course of diarrhea on the show. Yes, actually, but I'm not even going to read that one because it's happening every time.

Someone emailed to say that those should be, that should be called Hyphitz doing Hexlaxx. Oh, that's good. Love it. Love a good pun. Someone also emailed in Jordan. Shout out to Jordan. Jordy. Jordan said he actually did the Burger King. So I'm really tone deaf.

I don't know. Does someone else want to read this? You want to give it a go? I'm super. so deaf. So they made the, he wrote a version of the Wopper song, but about Danny Kelly and Casadias.

Oh, no. So I'm going to, I'm going to give this a shot. I'm reading this for the first time. Dilla, Dilla, Kesa Dilla, Danny Kelly, Casadilla,

Squantaneous Diaria, accepted hyvids his idea. Hey, D.K. Explode away. You rule. I like that it's still you rule. That's really good. good. I'm going to have that stuck in my head, man.

Della, Della, Gaseadela, Della, Daddy, Kala, Kada, Ksa, Della. I like that. You stop there. It's so catchy. It's a good song. It's a great song. It really is. All right. That's all we got. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you, Kai, for producing this episode. Thank you. Seriously, thank you, Guy.

It's a tough one. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Lauren. Lord. Thank you, Everclear. Craig? California? Craig, I feel like you'd like Everclear because all the songs are just about where you live. Really? Well, all I know, when I hear Ever Clear,

I just think of alcohol. Yeah. No, there's a band. Yeah. Interesting. They're from Portland, Oregon, it says. Well, they sing about California a lot. See? They love it. They have a song called Santa Monica.

Oh. I want to say there's something about Nahalem. Isn't Nahalem a city in California? Nahalem. Maybe that's in California. Maybe this band just sings about Oregon. Santa Monica, Oregon. Look, I don't know.

I don't know the whole bio of this band, but I listen to them a lot when I was like, you know. What is their, what is their genre? What kind of music did they play? That's a good question. Like punkish-ish? Punk rock. Oh, they have an album titled Return to Santa Monica. There you go.

Sparkle and Fade is like the album I listen to. That came out in 1995. Heroin girl. There's a lot of really good ones. Summerland. Oh, that's the one I was thinking of. Summerland. That's in California.

Okay. Right? I don't know about Summerland. Summerland is right by Ohio. Is it? I feel like I got, yeah. Well, it's like by like Carpentaria or whatever. I don't know California.

I'm not like a California person. You guys lived there. I do live there. D.K., the population of Summerland is 745 people. So apologies that I. I had never heard of it. It's okay, but it's right, it's right by, Monocito, I see.

Yes. Got it. It's on that little corridor off 101. Yes. Yes. Nahalim, Oregon is 355 people. What? I don't know.

Maybe they didn't sing about Nahalem. I may have made that up. I can't remember. I'm going to have to go listen to some ever clear today. I think you would like it, though, Craig. Danny, not switch. I'll give it a shot. Yeah.

What is that mean? Sunny California. It's not an East Coast vibe. I feel like punk music doesn't align with singing about like sunshine and the beach. Really? Punk? Yeah, some of it. Maybe not.

I actually don't think Everclear would be technically punk. I don't know what their genre is really, but maybe, but it's also not grunge because it's happy-ish. Although a lot of it is about like, a lot of it is about like drugs and stuff. I don't know. All right. Well, I'm not good with genres, as people I'm sure already know. What genre was this ever? episode. That's what I'm trying to figure out.

I don't know how to explain what music is. It's just like it's like it makes me feel a certain way. That's all. Well, all you got to do is thank a band. You know what I mean? You don't have to. I mean, check out everything. Are we keeping this in the show? Yeah, we're leaving it. It's a good record. Sparkle and fade.

We just talk until hyphen says goodbye. Heifis, I forgot you were there. Yeah. Oh, damn. Just not going to do it. I'm just going to keep going to close the whole thing. All right. Goodbye. Must be 21 plus and present in select states. Fandul is offering online sports wagering in Kansas under an agreement with Kansas Star Casino LLC. Gambling problem?

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