The Ringer NFL Show - Week 3 Winners, Losers, and Awards
Episode Date: September 26, 2022We recap Week 3 in the NFL by giving out awards like Winner of the Week; the Mansplain of the Week; the Hometown 10; Call Off the Search We Found Them; the Stat Lines We Won’t Acknowledge, and more,... before we induct the next player into our 2022 Fantasy Burn Book. Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Sunday of week three is over.
It was kind of boring.
Not as a setting since those two weeks.
We're going to go through categories.
We're going to kind of sum up everything and happen to week three.
Everything we saw, everything we felt.
Starting off going winners and losers.
I kind of want to nominate a first winner here,
which is just all the Russian quarterbacks.
Yeah.
Cheat code.
Hyfitz, you hate it?
I know.
Hyvitz.
Do you love this or hate this?
You have a love-hate relationship with running quarterbacks
in the current state of fantasy football?
Well, to be clear,
running quarterbacks, it's not a cheat code.
It's just the rules of fantasy football are dumb.
And I mean, it's just silly that like a rushing guard's worth two and a half times more than
a passing guard.
But it's the world we live in.
And if you have a running quarterback, I mean, just fact.
But if you have a running quarterback, you're doing great.
I mean, like the top three quarterbacks today, it's like Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hertz,
Josh Allen, all three of those dudes were also top four last week.
And it just seems increasingly clear that the guys with the elite ceiling and then also
the guys with the high floors. The guys that don't have bad weeks but also have
week winning weeks are just all the guys with running ability. And if you don't have one of
those dudes, you're probably very unhappy. Yeah. The traditional dropback pastors are just like
falling by the wayside. I know. It's funny. Now when I watch like a quarterback who's a traditional
pastor like Tom Brady, I'm like, man, how the hell is he going to get to 22 fantasy points?
He says to that he has to have the game of his life to get there. Dude, Stephen Ruiz made the
Or is it so like, I don't know, they're bleeding together in my mind,
but that joke about the Seth Curry,
not Seth Curry, Steph Curry's father's,
the Dell Curry tweet about that, man, you don't want to date.
You haven't been out here, man.
Like, you don't want that.
And it's like when the Steelers drafted Kenny Pickett,
they're like, dude, really?
This kind of court.
Like, this is not what it's like anymore.
And it's like, I just feel the same way about,
even Daniel Jones every now and then when he runs.
I'm like, oh, God, at least he can do this.
Like watching Jimmy Garoppel with the Niners tonight.
I'm like, oh, my God.
What does he even do?
too. Yeah. It's a double-edged sword though, too, because, like, I mean, we saw it with Justin Fields today, man.
It's like, God, you know, you get enticed by the athleticism, the overall speed, you know, whatever.
But, like, they've thrown the ball like seven times a game. It's ridiculous.
But that's a specific situation. But overall, I think that the whole model is what happened with Lamar Jackson today.
Lamar Jackson, I mean, he leads the NFL impasse rating. He also is third in rushing yards.
It's none of my quarterbacks, just period. He's Lamar Jackson's third in rushing yards.
He's the fourth player in NFL history
to have four passing touchdowns
and 100 rushing yards in the same game.
Michael Vic never even did that.
Well, and you know what's funny about Russ?
I feel like, I mean, about Lamar,
is I feel like Lamar is evolving kind of
to a passing quarterback
who just kind of runs whenever he wants to,
but whenever he wants to run,
he's the best rushing quarterback in the league.
It feels like they're designing him less,
and he's just dropping back to pass,
and if nothing's there, he just takes off for 15.
I completely agree.
It feels that with Jalen Hertz, too.
Like honestly, when Jalen Hertz first came,
they feel less reliant on the run.
Even when he was at Oklahoma,
I remember watching me like,
this would be cool,
but like when he got drafted,
I was like,
it felt like his passing game
wasn't there enough.
And he has improved, like so much.
And again,
he's gotten a little bit better every single year.
It's like the compound interest of his career.
And Jalen Hertz,
he had three passing touchdowns at halftime.
Jalen Hertz,
speaking of weird stats,
and you can kind of set the passing rushing stats
to skew however you want,
which is what's happening.
But who cares?
But Jalen Hertz is the only player in NFL history with 900 passing yards and 150 rushing yards in his team's first three games.
First player ever to do that.
Wow.
But more importantly, he's seen the whole field.
Like he's seeing progressions.
He's going left.
Like there was a point, it's not as fun to say Zoolander, but kind of Zoolander, like one field.
He's doing the whole field reads.
He's seen the middle of the field.
He's thrown in the middle of field.
Like he is, I mean, as a Giants fan and someone is to play against the Eagles, I went from thinking the Giants and Eagles would be competing for a quarterback.
and next year's draft to actually Jailen Hurtz might be good enough that he just can rock the Giants the next five years.
I'm kind of terrified.
You mentioned Jalen Hertz in this category, but he had his second lowest, it's all this.
He had his second lowest rushing total as a starter.
He had 20 yards rushing.
And he just did it all with his arm this week, which is super encouraging.
That's kind of like exactly my point.
It's like when Jalen Hertz is now at the point of his career where he doesn't need to rush for 80 yards to win a football game and have a good game,
that's when you know he's at his scariest.
Yeah. Get you someone who can do both that doesn't have to have to run.
Meanwhile, Josh Allen had a quote unquote disappointing game. He's top three.
He also had like 70 dropbacks of this.
400 yards today.
400 yards on the nose. And it's like, well, eight carries for like almost 50.
So anyway, if you need a run, like if you have a rushing quarterback, it's great.
And if you listen to us and you took Trey Lance, who's the only one who sucked and got hurt.
So I'm sorry.
Well, he got hurt. That's not our fault.
Hey, no.
Do you think it's weird that Lamar Jackson,
is playing like maybe even better than he did as an MVP a couple of years ago and the Ravens just
refused to sign him to a long term contract like what are they thinking now I don't think they
refused I mean look think with well they they couldn't come to an agreement yeah no well they couldn't
come to agreement also this is a different negotiation than other ones I don't know if we've talked
about this but it's worth it since you're going to hear about the Lamar thing the way that the
negotiations usually work is obviously the player is an agent agent negotiates to the team and then like
the reports you hear are coming from either side in the negotiation.
Lamar doesn't have an agent.
He's literally him and his mom were negotiating this.
Yeah.
Ian Rappaport, not tight with Lamar Jackson's mom.
Like Adam Schaefter, not like, you know, adding Drew Rosenhaus,
like not sure Adam Schaefter knows Lamar Jackson's mom.
Like, no one really knows what's up with this negotiation.
So it's more opaque than other ones.
And then also on top of that, the Deshawn Watson contract being fully guaranteed
to say nothing of all the literally dozens of things Deshaun Watson's been accused of,
even just strictly on the field, Lamar Jackson's has an objectively better football career
than Deshawn Watson.
And so I think kind of what's going on here is Lamar Jackson's mom is like,
why does Deshaun Watson get all that money and my son does it?
My son's better.
And like the Ravens are like, well, it's tough.
So like the Ravens are kind of, that's why Steve Beshati, the Ravens owner,
was apparently so mad at the Browns' house.
owners about giving DeShone Watson that contract.
Yeah, because they don't want that precedent.
Yeah.
Yeah, they don't want to give guarantee hundreds of millions of dollars of Lamar.
So I don't know.
But yeah, when he's playing like this, I mean, pretty difficult to not want to keep him around.
It's so fun to watch.
He's the most fun player to watch.
So those are the winners.
Losers of the day.
Yeah, so the subcategory, the sub award here for the losers, the Dead Dove Award, which
we unveiled last week, the Arrested Development Dead Dove.
I don't know what I was expecting award.
I'm in a Superflex league
in my high school long running league.
It's been a decade.
We've had this league and I drafted two quarterbacks
this year, Justin Herbert and Tom Brady.
Tough.
And, you know, I didn't have a ton of options this week
with Justin Herbert's fractured rib cartilage
and Tom Brady being 45 years old
and throwing to a bunch of no names.
So I don't know what I was expecting today,
but they played like shit.
And Tom Brady's been bad for three straight weeks.
and Herbert is very injured.
And you know what?
He actually cobbled together
a decent stat line.
He fumbled, he threw a pick,
but he had 300 yards and a touchdown.
He didn't look right.
But man, it's tough out there
for these two right now.
I don't know when it's going to get any better either.
I guess when they got Mike Evans coming back
for Tom Brady next week.
But like, is Herbert's, like,
I'm worried that Herbert needs two months,
realistically, to like actually let his ribs heal,
but he's going to play every single week.
And we're just going to get the worst of both worlds
for the Chargers and for Justin's health.
I totally respect Herbert.
being a warrior gamer and that's blah, blah, blah.
It's kind of crazy to me.
He was out there down 28 points with like two minutes left.
Oh, 100%.
It's fucking nuts.
Did you hear Staley in the press conference after
of why they kept him out there?
And he was like, Justin wanted to stay out there, you know,
like get some momentum going into the next week, like hype up the team.
I was like, what are you fucking talking about, dude?
Take him out of the games.
It's crazy.
Also, you know what else would be cool?
Getting your backup quarterback reps who will probably have to play really soon.
I know.
But yeah, no, it's, it's,
Brady had a terrible game too, and it's weird because it said Dead Dove right on the back.
Like I said, Mike Evans suspended right there in the game.
Yeah, like, Breshaad Perman had a fumble.
Like, it was a mess.
Russell Gage ended up being great.
Yeah, I mean, he ended up salvaging the day.
But, like, dude, watching the Buccaneers receiving core today was seriously frustrating.
Like, they are terrible.
I mean, I guess it is exactly the category.
It's like, what would you expect from a bunch of, like, backups?
but dude, it was so frustrating.
Like, Scotty Miller, get him out of here.
Like, get this guy out of here.
I can't watch another Scotty Miller snap.
Do you know what we have not made a big enough deal of this year?
Is that the most on-the-nose metaphor,
I feel like I've ever seen in 20 years of football,
which is Tom Brady returning to football this year
and literally having to play through an injury to his ring finger.
It's like, I cannot.
Wait, is it on his left hand or right hand?
No, it's not on.
It's on the right hand.
So it's not on the correct hand.
But it actually matters because it's on his throwing hand.
Right, right.
So, yeah, it's not as perfect.
But every single game, they're like, yeah, Tom Brady's ring finger.
And I'm just like, man, like sometimes life, it's not even subtle.
It's like, yeah.
Also, do you think Jazeel is watching these games and it's like, bam, he's like refusing to, like, spend his time with my family so he can go out there and be with Rashad Parraiman?
Yeah.
Hey, two and one, you know?
After today, Tom Brady is the QB 26.
He's got to be an ultimate by-low, right?
Like, in three-God.
Three weeks from now, he's going to have Mike Evans, Chris Godwin.
Like, let's be honest, Gronk might be here by like week eight.
Things could look a lot different.
Yeah.
I think, yeah, I think he's definitely a by-low because the person knows Tom Brady's
freaking out.
But in reality, Tom Brady's fine.
Tom Brady's playing well.
Tom Brady's still playing great.
It's just like...
It's like we've said this a few times.
He doesn't look bad.
No.
The receiver sucks.
He doesn't look bad.
His face looks sunken like he's gotten way too much plastic.
He's just getting ready for Halloween a little early.
He's going to be a skeleton.
He looks dead.
He's got blue paint all over him.
It's just, you know, it's obviously like Tom Brady at this point in his career.
Like it's entirely about timing rhythm.
The entire idea of what advantages he brings requires everyone to have like a baseline level of practice on IQ.
And I mean, they have freaking Cole Beasley there.
The fact that Cole Beasley even had to play after he signed with them on Wednesday is kind of nuts.
I feel like the first three weeks of the season has been such a, I don't know what the word is,
referendum maybe on why teams went out and spent just absolutely obscene money on receivers this
offseason and like traded, like look at what the dolphins are doing with their receivers.
How about the Jaguars who everyone made fun of for paying Christian Kirk?
Kirk is awesome.
And now absolutely walloped the chargers are two and one and among all the division winners
have the best point to French in the NFL.
I think the only person that the only player that's like kind of going against the grain on all this is is Lamar.
But like everybody else in the NFL, it's like, dude, having elite receivers turns out it's very useful.
It's helpful.
Like let's go get some of them.
AJ Brown and Philly.
Like I feel like the Eagles like built the roadmap to like surround your quarterback with the right pieces to actually help them succeed.
We left that out of the Gillen Hertz conversation.
But AJ Brown is a massive part of like what I mean, he certainly helped make Gillen Hertz's life easier.
And even with Lamar, the only reason it's not.
thing with Lamar is just like, I mean, the benefits the receiver usually brings Lamar's kind
of just bring into the table himself with the playmaking. But on that note, though, I'm talking about
this. Aaron Rogers, I kind of thought played incredible today. And I don't know, it was one of those
like going to this game. I was like, how are they going to do this? The fact that with all those
guys hurt, he kind of made Romeo Dobbs like, fine. It was pretty impressive. And Alan Lazard
showed up, Tanya. Well, on that note, another window this week, just the Randos, man.
Oh my God.
Okay, so this is the, also known as, man, my bench went off today award.
Like, is there a worst feeling when, like, it's hard.
Sometimes it's actually like a kind of an okay feeling.
The optimal lineup award.
But like, good God, man.
I had several people sending me lineups today of like their bench just scoring like 150 points.
Outscoring your lineup.
We need a word for that.
There's nothing worse than when you click optimal lineup and your team jumps up like 78 points.
Man.
Yeah, that's tough.
So I want to just run through a list of guys that were most likely on rosters,
but just absolutely very unlikely in starting lineups this week.
Khalil Herbert, who was the highest scoring skill player in PPR this week,
that was an injury situation so you get that.
But like Devante Smith, he was incredible, absolutely absurd this week.
He was started in only 25% of ESPN leagues.
Jamal Williams started in 4% of leagues had 24 points.
Devin Singletary started in 28% of leagues, 20 points.
Isaiah McKenzie started in 1% of leagues.
He had 18 points.
Devante Parker, Craig's guy, 18 points.
Never wrong, just early.
Started in less than 1% of ESPN leagues.
Tyler Boyd, 18.5 ppr points, or half ppr points.
3% started.
The list just goes on.
Roger Stevenson, KJ. Osborne, Mac Collins, Romeo Dobbs,
Zay Jones, all these guys, Russell Gage,
all these guys were started in, like,
less than 5% of the top like 20 or so wide receivers about half of them were were in the like less than 5%
started and then of the top 12 like half of the top 12 wide receivers this week were like 1% yeah and it was
a bizarre day for all like the actual good wide receivers like the jemar chases cooper cup had like 40 yards
receiving uh jason jesus jefferson didn't know anything we'll get to him later but yeah the very
bottom heavy day for the receivers empty cowlers what is it like the if the tree
falls in the forest and does make, or is there, and there's no one around to hear it, does it make
it sound? Like, just hate that. Well, no, I think that what happens in a week like this is if you
look at your league and you just kind of like, look at the general points being scored, every
team is just kind of less than you think. And you're like, where did those points go? And you're like,
oh, yeah, right. They went to Mack Hollins. That's where they went. They all went to Mac Collins
and Zay Jones. All right. Another loser. First of all, I mean, everyone who watched Sunday
football's kind of a loser, right?
Correct.
We are all now dumber.
Yeah.
I award you no points.
My award for this loser is, it goes to Russ Wilson, and the award is she's a hometown 10,
but an LA4.
God, that's Russ.
Russ in Seattle, hometown 10, and then the second he leaves, things have been grim in Denver
for Russ.
He's an LA4 in Denver.
He's no L-Way, that's for sure.
He's no L-Way.
He's the 22nd quarterback in fantasy on the year.
He had nine fantasy points today, man.
He was missing throws left and right.
You know what was sad tonight was he had one good drive to end the game
where he made like three throws.
And they're like, this is why you, Chris Collins was like,
this is why you bring him in here.
You're doing Russell Wilson stuff.
This is why you got him here.
It's like he made three throws in an hour, in a 60 minute game.
He should have been doing that the whole game.
They had eight three and outs in this game.
Russell Wilson, $250 million Russell Wilson,
had eight three and outs in this game.
They have three touchdowns in 12 quarters.
And he's like, everyone's like,
well, this is why you bring him in here.
Look at Russ making shit happen.
It's like he was terrible all night.
I feel like people have been gaslit a little bit on like what Russell Wilson actually is.
Like the highs, like his good games, his elite games are like insane.
But like to me, I'm like this is sort of the majority of what it feels like when Russell Wilson is just firing a hundred and two amount of fastballs to his running backs on checkdowns.
It's like he plays like shit for three quarters.
and then he like put together some magic in the Seahawks win.
Or sorry, in the Broncos win.
But like this is me just remembering kind of like how it was.
Of course he put, he was always very efficient throughout the years.
But it was always like a low volume thing.
And then he just made like a couple magical plays and like pulled a rabbit out of the hat kind of deal.
What was he efficient at tonight getting three and outs?
He was super efficient at that.
I mean, I'm just going to read.
I mean, just to sort of somewhere on the same page here in case you were spared
to center of football.
The Broncos started three and out punt, three and out punt, three and out.
punt field goal, punt, three and out punt with a lost yardage, come out of the second half,
go rah-rah, three-and-out punt with a lost yardage again, three-and-out punt, missed field goal,
three-and-out punt, three-and-out punt, touchdown, three-and-out punt. He's been booed a lot
already. Like, he's getting booed hard. To your point, I wish we could find this stat.
honestly, I kind of wish we need bills
unofficial help for this.
In any sport,
has any team given up so much in a trade
and a contract for a player
like Russ that was getting booed
so quickly into a season
by his home crowd?
It took like six quarters of football's number one.
Two, with the Russell Wilson thing,
I've been trying to...
They were counting down the play clock.
Dude, I had two thoughts.
I had two thoughts
with Russell Wilson.
Not today, but last week.
But this travesty of a game tonight,
if Tua had done what Russ did tonight and Russ have been doing what Tua did this season,
what would we be saying?
If Russell Wilson had the four touchdowns in the fourth quarter and had beaten Josh
Allen today, we would be losing our shit, including me.
Like, meanwhile, if Tua was doing this, he'd be getting ripped.
And then I, like, the other thing I thought was the whole reason they brought Russell
Wilson in was because how bad the Broncos quarterbacks have been the last like six years.
Was he in any way like better than like what Trevor Simeon brought to Denver?
Was he better than like what Drew Locke was doing?
Was this performance actually better?
Statistically no.
Right?
Yeah, I think it's going to get bad.
I think that they're going to like iron stuff out and everything.
But yeah, like it's been bad.
Dude, literally they've been booing him.
Like that is insane to me.
Did you see his post game?
conversation on the field
getting interviewed?
Dude, he's the biggest corn ball
on the planet.
The first thing he says
is like Nathaniel Hackett
is just such a great coach.
He's teaching us,
we're learning from him,
we're getting better every day.
What a game out there,
what a game.
Defense has played so hard.
The Niners, he's like,
I've played the Niners a lot in my career.
We're like, yeah, dude, we know.
All right, we all know you played the Niners.
They're a tough team.
What a game.
What a game.
Let's ride.
Dude, they won the game, by the way.
feel like we should point that out again.
They won 11 to 10.
They had 9 3 outs and 11 points.
And they only won because Jimmy Garoppola walked out of the back of the fucking end zone to give them a safety.
The most entertaining part of this whole game was Jimmy Garapolo going out of the back and Dan
Orlovsky tweeting, freedom!
Like he's in Braveheart.
This, again, I'm just going to repeat it again.
This is like classic.
This is the same old Russell Wilson to be.
Like I feel like nothing has changed.
Maybe the stats are slightly worse, yes, probably.
But like the same old shit.
This is exactly the script of every fucking Seahawks game for the last 10 years.
It's a terrible, disgusting, low-scoring slog of a game.
Yeah, but we thought that was a magical thing.
I had to pull up a tweet of mine from 2018 today and send it to Broncos fans.
Familiar feeling following the Seahawks win today.
Misery.
Like, that was from 2018.
Like, this has been happening for fucking years.
This is just who Russell Wilson is.
It's all that, minus the fun and minus the fantasy production.
Here, this year, he's had 17 points and you're like, okay, that was that weird game against Seattle, I guess.
And then he said 12, and then this week he had nine.
Yeah.
This is not the let Russ cook Russell Wilson, obviously.
This is like...
Get him out of the kitchen.
Everything else, Russell Wilson, the rest of his career, Russell Wilson.
Because he actually completed, like, what was it?
What was he?
He was 20 of 33.
Yeah.
he didn't throw a pick
like well on that note
freaking while we're talking about this game
javanti williams man
yeah let's talk about that we're not mad we're just
disappointed the dad award it's javanti
we're so dumb because we were on this in the preseason
we were like they resigned melvin gordon
we all know what's going to happen we all
we're all wish casting we want javanti to be the guy
he had 11 catches in week one
everybody flipped out this is the you know
it's finally happened
and what happened tonight
givante williams melvin gordon
split exactly the same amount of snaps, 26 a pop.
Melvin Gordon got the goal line touches and scored the touchdown.
They have pretty much an even split on the year.
This is what we knew what happened.
And it's happening.
Mike Boone got 13 snaps.
Like they even added to it.
No, that's what I was going to add?
It's like, now fucking Mike Boone is involved.
Before years ago.
There's nothing coaches love more than outsmarting themselves.
Why are you putting Mike Boone on the field, dude?
What in the hell?
Yeah.
They just get off on it.
Honestly, I don't have anything good to say about Javonte Williams' fantasy managers.
I just, I don't have anything for you.
I want to apologize.
Well, not apologize because I, you know, I still believe.
But, I mean, last week, I was like, you know what, Javante, buy low.
Because I thought I was going to explode.
And like, honestly, I needed to be bonked.
Too horny.
You weren't thinking with your brain.
No.
I was not thinking with my brain.
All right.
Our next award, today's rookie mistake award is presented by state.
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Needed to add a kicker.
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You know, cut your kicker.
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It's Sunday.
I got to figure who to cut.
I'm like, well, you know what?
I got this backup running back.
He's a handcuff.
doesn't have much value unless the main running back gets injured.
And I'm like, what are the odds of that really?
I got all these high upside receivers.
I don't want to cut anyone.
So how about I just cut Khalil Herbert?
This is fine.
Like, it's, Kalil Herbert's not even going to, what's going to happen?
What's going to happen if I really did think this morning?
What's the worst thing that could possibly happen if I cut Khalil Herbert?
Will my life really change that much?
You know what?
Did you happen to be hungry when you made that decision?
I bet you were.
I think I was, Craig.
You know it would have helped.
You know what it made you level-headed
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It's going to sign two weeks from there.
All right.
Mansplane of the week while we're just going through mistakes of made.
I kind of mansplained
the Chiefs Colts game.
I love that this is an award now.
This didn't work out the way that we envisioned it.
I put $50 on this game, by the way,
the Chief's winning by four and a half.
It's hard to bet on sports, you guys.
I put more in that.
Mansplained of the week.
So basically, last week I was basically like Gus Bradley,
who's the defensive coordinator for the Colts,
just has not been able to stop Patrick Mahomes.
Like everyone does the too high thing.
And Gus Bradley's like, I'm going to do my own thing.
And he just, for some reason, has played more than twice as much.
of the coverage that doesn't work versus the Chiefs.
And it never works.
And the Chief scored like 88 points of them in like 17 drives last year.
And so obviously the Colts who have scored,
not to mention that the Colts offense has the fewest points in the NFL through two weeks.
Colts beat the Chiefs.
Because nothing makes sense.
My bad.
Yeah.
Explain that one, nerds.
Well, that's the thing.
It's not a nerds thing.
It's like the Jocs thing.
It was like the tape heads.
You know?
The nerves aren't out here talking about zone coverage.
So what happened?
How did the Chiefs lose this?
So, well, I would say two things.
I mean, credited Gus Bradley and the Colts.
Like credited them at Ryan, tried to blow the game and then didn't.
But like, uh...
Some wonky special team stuff.
So, yeah.
So credit to Gus Bradley.
Like, I think he, I don't, I mean, I got to watch the, I got to go back and watch
this game because I think I was having, you know, if you watch Archer, I was smelling toast
the whole time.
But basically, they played cover three.
They played cover three, like they played softer and they played back.
So like they gave up the easy stuff.
And also I think they puts the fun Gilmore and Kelsey,
which screwed them up.
I don't know exactly.
What definitely did happen.
Sky Moore fucked up.
Skymore like muffed the initial punt and gave the Colts the ball inside the 10.
So the Colts was punched in a touchdown.
No.
And then Patrick Holmes comes back,
third down has like an easy touchdown at Jujs Smith-Juster for 80 yards.
He just overthrows Juju.
So they punt.
Then the Colts punt back and then Sky Moore just,
screws up again and then the chiefs are pinned at their own one.
And then it just,
and then the chiefs,
because Harrison Butgers hurt,
so they like missed the field goal and they didn't trust their field goal kicker.
So then they,
or fake punt,
fake field go,
I forget which.
And then they didn't get that.
So,
I mean,
all these things added up and suddenly,
like they burned like five drives between the miss kick,
the bad fake and then the two muffs.
And it's like,
that was like half their drives basically.
It was really bad.
football's weird
football's very weird
and then he ends it with a pick
my homes
yeah
so yeah sorry for mansplaining that
everybody
that's all right
yeah it happens
it happens football is very strange
in the spirit of
coming clean
and apologizing for things
this is that I've made a huge
mistake award
shout out to arrest of development
Job
I thought Baker Mayfield
would be like an upgrade
for the Panthers
based on what they've had
over the last few years
which is basically the worst
quarterbacks in the NFL combined with all the different guys that they've had.
Sam Darnold is the poster boy of all this.
But I actually thought Baker Mayfield would be something closer to league average maybe.
And that would be a huge benefit for everyone on this offense.
Like, DJ Moore would finally go off.
Like things are somehow worse, I feel like, with Baker Mayfield under center,
especially for DJ Moore, who's done absolutely nothing so far.
Baker Mayfield in today's, and to be clear, I think they did,
win today. They did in fact win.
That doesn't matter to me. I think
they won. I can't remember. Yeah, they got
there's the thing. I don't care. I don't care. I'm not a Panthers fan.
I don't care that they won. What I do care about is the fact that
DJ Moore had one catch for two yards.
Baker Bayfield was 12 to 25, 170 yards
in a touchdown. 67 of his 170 yards came on like a
little dump off past the Liviska Schnell, which he
ran for a touchdown. He had
44 yards passing at the
half time. At the halftime. That's
people say things.
He now ranks 28th out of 34 qualifying
quarterbacks in completions and yards this year.
He's taking nine sacks, which is the six most.
The only quarterbacks with a worse off-target rate
than Mayfield, which is 20%.
One fifth of his passes are off-target, by the way,
are Cooper Rush, Trey Lance, and Justin Fields.
He has three touchdown passes in three games.
I probably, you're going to have to remind me a little bit
how this all went down.
I probably should have remembered more
that O'Dell Beckham's dad basically,
forced the Browns to trade O'Dow Beckham.
Can you remind me how this all went down?
Like, that should have been more of a red flag, probably.
It was a massive red flag.
It was Odell Beckham's dad just put a super cut on Instagram that obviously he didn't.
He got it.
You know, he said, man in his 50s, he didn't put this together.
He asked someone, make a cut of every time my son was open and Baker didn't get him the
ball.
And then he posted it and then said, get my son the ball with a bunch of cool funny hashtags
about being a dad.
And then they were like, wow, well,
this is awkward and they, like, got rid of Odell.
But everyone, we kind of just were like, well, Baker's hurt and like hurt his shoulder.
And now he's healthy and just sucks.
It's crazy how hard it is to play quarterback that we have to,
that there are so many teams that still have to start these guys every week.
Jimmy Garapolo and Baker Mayfield and James Winston.
Like, there's just such a muck of dudes that are too good to be backups,
but not good enough to be starters.
It's so true.
And during this season, I kind of felt like the level,
the average level of quarterback play was higher than it had been in recent seasons.
You know what I mean?
Like some point when we were making our fantasy rankings like months and months and months ago,
I was like, Aaron Rogers, the back-to-back MVP wasn't top 10 in our rankings.
Just feels weird?
Yeah, I was like the average, like Trevor Lawrence is like 16th.
That seems good.
Holy crap.
I mean, people, I mean, I mean, Carson Wentz was the top, top fantasy option, you know, today.
But you're right that DJ Moore is there was like the Panthers are.
paying the price here in Carolina.
Like, I, I, apparently Craig and I put together the same list because I was going to
steal Craig's idea of like the Kyle Pitts.
Craig for a couple weeks has been doing two truths and a lie, which of these tight ends
outscored Cal Pitts.
I put one together for DJ Moore.
But Craig, did you actually also do that?
Pretty much, but you go ahead, take it.
Well, I just did two truths and a lie, which of these receivers outscored T.J. Moore.
Dax, Milne.
Milne.
Milne.
Wasn't he the roommate of somebody?
He was Zach Wilson's best friend.
Oh, that's the one who was dating Zach Wilson's girlfriend.
He's not dating Zach Wilson's girlfriend because Zach Wilson had sex with his mom's friend.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
By the way, I saw someone who had a
Zach Wilson jersey today that said,
shit, what did it say?
Something about it.
Hunter or something.
Something related.
I don't remember exactly.
Something to do with having sex with Milfs.
Anyways.
Nice.
Jeff fans.
Sick.
Anyway, so yeah, DJ Moore,
you know what,
I'll give that to you for free.
He didn't have as many yards
his next building.
God damn it.
Penny Hart?
That's not a real person.
I've never heard of him in my life.
Is that like the lead singer of an 80s band?
Who is that?
Him and Aldous Snow.
Dude, I know who Penny Hart is.
He's on the Seahawks.
like their fifth, fifth receiver or something.
Legit never heard of this.
Andre Bachelia.
Oh, the opera singer.
I've heard of this person because the Cardinals cut him the other day.
Now he's back and he had more yards than DJ more.
And well, no, so Philip Dorset, Pennyhart, Andre Bachelia.
Which of those people?
Well, knowing you fuckers, it's all of them.
This guy's name is so close to Andrea Bichelli.
I know, it's so close.
No, it's a lie.
Philip Dorset had exactly the same amount of yards.
I legit don't know what team Philipson.
But yeah, Dax Millney.
What team is Philip Dorset on now?
The Texans, I think.
I forget.
Who cares?
It doesn't matter.
Okay.
No, he's, I don't know.
He is on the Texas, but he had one catch for 15 yards.
God damn it.
DJ Moore, so he had one catch to you as 13 rushing yards.
Between him and we didn't even get to Christian McCaffrey,
who is a real, like, sweating at first overall pick.
I'm going to do something a little early.
I think we have to burn somebody from the Carolina Panthers.
Either it's DJ Moore, either it's Baker or it's Ben McAdoo, the offensive coordinator, it's Matt Rule.
Like this is burn, this is what the burn book is for.
I mean, it's got to be DJ Moore, right?
Like, is he startable at this point?
You know, he had a touchdown last week, he had 11 points.
I benched him in our dynasty league today.
Wow, good call.
It's a 12-team league with like 40-person rosters.
That's bad.
That's Burton Baker, dude.
We're done.
Well, that's, yeah, that's obvious.
Because I'm not burning DJ Moore.
It's fucking Baker Mayfield's fault.
It's Baker Mayfield's fault.
DJ Moore has been underwhelming his entire career.
No, he's up 1,200 yards like every year of his career.
He's been underwhelming scoring touchdown.
And they were, and they were an underwhelming 1100 yards, if we're being honest.
No one's been happy with, oh.
You want to, you want to do DJ,
more? I don't know. Someone has to pay for this. I think it's Baker. But what about McCaffrey?
McCaffrey hasn't been good either. I mean, you know, McCaffrey's been all right. He's had 200-yard games.
He's just not scoring. This is the problem with all these teams. Teams just forgot how to score
touchdowns. How about we just burn that rule? Well, the Cardinal, or sorry, the Panthers won.
I really wish the Panthers had lost this game. They got a defensive touchdown.
That's why they won the game. The offense doesn't get credit. They often scored 13 points.
There's been a theme of this year. And I don't know if this is.
has been the case every other year,
but there's a theme this year
of us shitting on a team's offense
and then going,
well, they did win.
Yeah.
That's my new favorite.
Yeah, the Panthers
get their first one in like three months
and we're just like,
god, no, it's real.
The fucking Bears won today, dude.
Like, they score,
they,
how many,
they had seven completions again
or something,
like ridiculous.
Oh, so the Panthers won.
Michael Thomas and Jarvis Lynch
got hurt in this game.
And the Saints still almost came back.
So let's burn.
I think I like Matt Rule.
Well, he might get burned in real life, so you want to just burn Baker?
I'll burn Baker.
We can burn Baker.
All right, Baker Mayfield, you're in the burn book.
I'm surprised it took this long.
It's burned enough bridges.
Honestly, I feel like they can just add this to our list.
Wait, so wait, just to make sure, who else?
In the burn book, week one, we gave it to Camakers because he literally didn't play in that game.
Week two, we gave it to Colquette and Darnell Mooney.
Colquette had a catch day, you guys.
He even had two.
Hell yeah.
Doubled it.
No, you can't double from, you can't double anything.
from zero. So that's how. So Colcombeck. Did you just say that two was double zero?
I caught myself at least. It's late, okay. Oh my God. Okay. I'm another one here, which is,
this is a new award. This is the call off the search we found them award. I love this one.
This is for Kyle Pitts for the Falcons Stead and Adam Thieland for the Vikings because it reminded
me of Breaking Bad when he like goes missing for a week and it's explained it. And he's like,
I was in a fugue state. And I'm like, maybe that's what Kyle,
an Adam Thieland can say.
They just, you know, lost in the desert.
Like, we're back now.
It's fine.
Don't worry about that.
I'm excited about pits,
but I'm also still kind of worried about pits.
Well, he had like 80 yards at half and then disappeared.
Dude, that's because he played literally two-thirds of the snaps.
He played 66% of the snaps.
That's not enough.
You need to be playing like fucking 90%, man.
Dude, Arthur Smith is the worst.
I'll point out again that the Falcons won.
Arthur Smith is the worst.
This is an incredible thing we have going.
We basically don't talk about teams that lose.
He sat one of his, like, there's like four really good players on this team.
And he sat one of them for like a third of the game.
What are you doing?
D.K., he's not worried about Kyle Pitts's fantasy team.
They did win. I know that they won.
He's worried about getting the W.
God damn.
And he secured it.
Is there any world where like, I don't know, the guy who does this is right?
Is there any world where Kyle Pitts?
No, I don't know.
This one I feel very confidently that he's just being a donkey.
I mean, they're one and two, and they beat the C.
by four. The Seahawks defense is not good. Like, he should have been playing 90% of snaps.
Yeah. At least.
I'm glad Adam Phelan's alive. I really was worried that the search crew never find him.
He was like the ultimate Bylow, like, about to pop. You know, like, all the, like, metrics about, like, expected fantasy points, stuff like that.
Adam Thielen, we knew it was coming. So if people stuck with their guns and started him this week at Payneoff.
I will never forgive, I submitted him on our Bylow episode of D.K. just didn't rank Adam Thieland.
He submitted him.
well you guys held me to five each hey the derrick henry one
derrick henry baby he's back yeah henry checker cito baby
it's it's the power it's like a light like you can just use everything after 10
as an honorary mention like we go to 12 it's all there's no rules man
okay well now now i know so just well we've been doing it a long time
well you know what like i forgot so okay it's bit you know i haven't i haven't picked
for the for the power rankings for like a year now so
Okay, you too.
The next award is a new award.
It's called the, I'm fine.
Are you fine?
Because I'm fine.
I'm totally fine.
Why do you ask?
That goes to Justin Jefferson,
who had three catches today for 14 yards.
He had three fantasy points.
Last week he had 48 yards.
You had eight points last week.
He obviously had that huge explosive week one
and the like, Justin Jefferson 2,000 yards.
Season quotes were flying all around.
Like, oh, he's clear.
the Cooper Cup's role in Minnesota, Kevin O'Connell.
What's his name? Chris O'Donnell out there coaching in Minnesota.
What is his name? I've lost track.
Kevin O'Connell.
Kevin O'Connell's incentive of a woman, Chris O'Donnell, is the head coach of the Vikings.
Just kidding.
No, I was going to say, that doesn't sound right.
Yeah, man. Jefferson.
Like, two...
It's frustrating.
But, like, people make the arguments, like, you know, that he got shut down by Jeff Okuda today.
last week, I think it was Darius Slay, who they say shut him down.
Is this concerning?
Is it bad?
I mean, Jeff Akuta, who is a third-year guy, he's the third overall pick in the draft
in 2020.
He tore his Achilles last year.
So far this year, I don't know if this stats correct.
I saw this from, I think it was CBS tweeted it, that Jeff Akuta this year when he
guarded Devante Smith in week one, is zero catches.
Terry McLaurin in week two, two catches, and now Justin Jefferson,
in week three, three catches?
It's like, is Justin Jefferson just getting blanketed and dominated?
What's going on?
Cooper Cup roll not coming to fruition?
I will say
after week one when Justin Jefferson
was so incredible and I was just like,
wow, I'm so thrilled. I have Justin Jefferson
my teams. I do feel now a little bit
like George Bush with the Mission Accomplished banner
behind him.
Like, all right, guys, they're done.
Solid as a rock.
We're just like
exponentially adding a rest of development
lines to the show.
I'm looking at his game
log from last year.
I feel like we shouldn't.
We probably shouldn't freak out too much.
Every player,
except for maybe Cooper Cup,
has like a couple of bad games a year.
You know,
like I'm looking at,
I'm looking at Jefferson's game log
from last year.
He had one,
two catch,
21-yard game.
He had,
let's see,
he had a three-catch,
69-yard game.
He had a couple off games.
Like, obviously,
nothing, like,
really, really bad.
I feel like this is how addicts speak to each other.
I don't know.
I'm just saying, like, you can't really,
you can't expect the guy to go off every week.
No, I think the real answer is that Kirk Cousins has been fucking infuriating.
I know that the Vikings, again, the Vikings won today.
To be clear, the Vikings won the game.
We were legally obligated to say that.
But, like, also, I looked at the, I'm looking at his 2021 DK.
That game, he had 69 yards.
He had a touchdown in that game.
He had 47-year-old.
You know, touch that.
Oh, my God.
All right.
Enough with the, yeah, yeah, box scores.
But like, should I do the Ryan Rusillo?
Like, I actually watched the game.
I can't do a Rissol impersonation.
But no one can go that deep.
No.
More ways than one, no.
But, what are you going to say?
He looked better?
No.
Kirk Cous, yeah.
Well, yeah, kind of.
I mean, I think Kirk Cousness just missed him a couple times.
It's kind of like a Jamar Chase.
Like, if you watch it Jamar Chase this season, like,
he just went out the one a few times.
Justin Jefferson, I think that he's so frustrated.
that it feels in some ways like a repeat of what was late remember stephan diggs before we got traded he just
was like furious with kirk cousins i kind of was starting to get the body language from jesus
he's like mad the last two weeks and i feel like there's going to be a behind the scenes talking to
i like drama i like this well yeah i mean it's not like he for lack of trying i mean kirk's throwing
him a tonne you know he had 11 targets 12 targets i guess he only had six today but he missed
Kirk just missed. It's okay.
I'm a little nervous.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm fine.
It's fine. I'm fine. Speaking of like, I'm fine, it's fine.
Everything's fine. Allvin Camara.
The difference is, Justin Jefferson is unquestionably, like, excellent and unbelievable and top five at his position.
Alvin Camara, I mean, is he just the single biggest whiff of the season this far?
Oh, I mean, yeah, like it's concerning the amount of points he scored.
I'm looking at his stat lines, though.
Like, he had 15 carries and seven targets.
That's solid.
Like, that's not alarming.
The underlying usage numbers, like, if you want to talk about how Justin Jefferson,
you shouldn't be worried.
Oh, Craig, I remember.
You know what?
The Craig I knew never fucking used that sentence once in his life.
The underlying usage numbers.
Alvin Camara is the 55th high-skirts running back.
Like, 50th.
If you drafted Alvin'amara in the second round or whatever,
he is literally 55th among running backs.
He's behind Brandon fucking Bolden.
That's tough.
who is famously, like the third string running back.
Brandon Bolden has more points than Alvin Camara.
Yeah, he does.
God damn.
And he got to get it.
He missed the game.
But also, Alvin Camara is behind Zander Horvath, who is like the fullback for the
charts.
That's how made up name.
So I'm just saying, God, like, I'm not ideal.
Not ideal.
We'll improve from here, obviously.
He's not worse than Zander Horvath.
The problem is we're having this conversation.
The fact you had to bring up
Xander Horvath is concerning.
That's true.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
The Saints aren't working out like we'd hoped.
No, it's probably because their quarterback has four fractures in his back.
That matters.
How about a silver lining?
How about a silver lining for the Saints?
Is that how they fix the back?
Real yards.
Real yards are more fun than Air Yards Award is going to Chris Olave this week.
He had some real yards this week.
If you remember last week, he had like 300,
300 plus, it was 320 or something like that.
Air yards, which is
most of the NFL, maybe by double
of anybody else last year. They were just
hucking it downfield to him over and over
again. He just didn't really turn it into production.
This week, he did.
Nine catches, 147 yards on 13 targets.
And if you go back to
the last two games, like it's pretty clear that
Olavé is becoming sort of, if not
the number one, like the 1A or 1B
of the offense along with Michael Thomas.
And Michael Thomas got hurt today. And so that
could be... And Jarvis,
Jarvis Landry is injured as well.
Jarvis got a high ankle sprained, right?
It was an ankle injury, and then Michael Thomas had a foot injury,
which is concerning because he obviously missed a ton of time with a foot injury.
So maybe Crystal Lave is now the number one guy in this offense.
In the last two games, he's second on the team in targets.
He has nearly doubled the amount of air yards.
Sorry, that might be second in the NFL in targets.
He is. I was going to say...
Second in the NFL.
Not second on the team.
Second in the NFL.
He's averaging 13 targets over his last two games per game.
Yeah.
He has a 33% target rate over the last two weeks.
So he is really showing up.
And like his skill sets meshing pretty well with James Winston.
Obviously this week, they connected a lot more than they did last week.
So rookies, man, they're doing well.
I mean, especially with the Saints big picture, like at the end of the day,
Michael Thomas, whether they're fine or not.
And again, I don't know if Jarvis Sanja has the high ankle, it might just be ankle,
which is completely different than a regular increase sprint.
But Jarvis, Michael Thomas, guys who've had injuries coming back, getting her,
Calvin Camara, older for a running back, has an injury.
Alvin Camaro's backup, Mark Ingram, like, older for running back.
Chris Olavi is like the youngest person of any skill on this team by like so much it's
unbelievable.
And he looks really good.
He just like immediately looks like an NFL player.
He looks really, really smooth.
But the unspoken thing.
The perception around Chris Oliva that nobody wants to say, DK.
Be bolder than everyone else.
That he's soft?
Yeah.
No one likes to say.
Well, that showed up.
last week when he had like 300 something air yards and only caught a few passes.
That means he's soft.
I mean, he got bullied off a few routes, I'd say.
Wow.
He did, I think he drew, he drew like a pass interference deep down the field, too.
I mean, this was the perception before the season.
You call him a snowflake?
This is the perception among people who watch tape, but no one wants to go out on the record
and say Chrysalavi softs because there's no upside.
And if Crystal Lave discovers you said that and blows you up, you'll deal with it forever.
that there's no upside. I mean, he didn't look soft today. It's like me saying
C.D. Lamb is too skinny. It's just no upside in saying that. I'm saying it.
Luckily, we're at the right middle ground where C.D. Lamb will never find out.
Who knows? Also, he is skinny. That's the other thing.
Someone's going to tag you in a tweet and send it to him. Here's the difference. Cid
Lamb is skinny. We can say that to Cediam. I'm worried for him.
Cedil Lamb knows. It's not that skinny.
I'll say it again. If Cedie Lamb had a Jewish great.
mother, she would just say, you need some skin on the bones.
Anyway, Crystal Lave's good.
I want to do a Tyler Conklin victory lap.
Oh, damn.
Hyphitz inexplicably decided to freak out
when I brought up Tyler Conklin as a potential ad at tight end position.
And for all the folks at home, that was like a five-minute argument about Tyler
Conklin, but it was actually like 12 and I cut it down because we kept going for so long.
Heifitz just decided he's going to die on the tail for no fucking.
reason whatsoever.
That's the story of Hivis' memoir.
It's titled Dying on the Hill for no fucking reason.
The irony of the whole thing was actually like Tyler Conklin.
What made me mad is that D.K.
And he does this twice in a row, two years in a row.
He recommended four different Jets pass catchers in the same episode.
And I'm like, that's not okay.
This guy Flackel throws the ball a hundred times a game, dude.
There's volume to be had there.
You said four different Jets players were worth adding.
And I'm like, that's not how that works.
Well, I get it.
Garrett Wilson and Tyler Conklin were very much worth adding.
All he was saying was one of them's got a pop.
One of them needs to emerge.
Or two of them.
Or two, perhaps.
Okay, here's the deal, High Fitz.
Tyler Conklin does matter, in fact, even though you decided to die on that hill.
He is third among all tight ends and targets.
Second in receptions.
He has run the most routes among all tight ends.
He has five plus targets in every game.
He is currently the tight end four and half PPR.
Only Mark Andrews.
Travis Kelsey and Zacherts have outscored Tyler Conklin.
Suck it.
That's actually shocking.
He's the Titan 4.
Yeah, you should add Tyler Conklin.
I think he's right.
Which I had recommended Corey Davis immediately beforehand,
or I wouldn't have been so angry about it.
Well, okay.
Corey Davis scored a touchdown the next game.
You're right.
We should add Tyler Conklin.
I'm well aware.
I should add Tyler Conklin.
Do you guys feel any differently now that Zach Wilson might be starting next week?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Not everyone.
Tyler Conklin
The window's over
No, Tyler Cochlin's back.
Nothing Zach Wilson's back.
You're going to add Tyler Conklin, he'll immediately be terrible.
How did we miss the pun of when D.K.
was extolling Tyler Conklin to Tyler Bonklin?
We really should have done that.
Yeah, that's a good point.
All right.
I didn't know what category to give this,
but I just wanted to talk about like six different things
that happened in the Bill's Dolphins game
that I feel like I was worried would be lost to the sands of time if we didn't mention.
It was a wild game.
Yeah.
So, first of all, I'll go in reverse order.
The video of the Bill's offensive coordinator, Ken Dorsey, just smashing his
shit.
What was your first react?
Like, I don't care of your thoughts.
I don't care about the game.
When you watch that, was your first reaction as a person.
That was funny.
I get it.
Yeah.
It was relatable, honestly.
Like if I remember growing up, if I lost that like a video game, I would like throw the controller.
We need to normalize rage quitting.
That was exactly my thought.
I was like, wow, it's kind of comforting to know that like men of any age can just toss the monopoly board off the table.
Just wipe it all off right before you lose.
The nice part about being super rich is like you can just break shit.
Like Tom Brady broke two of those surface tablets last week and just there's no repercussions.
The team's just going to buy more.
Well, he couldn't figure out how to use it.
He's too old.
He didn't get it.
He got mad.
If I had the option of just breaking stuff, like, if I got mad at my phone, if I was, like, really rich,
I don't have to worry about, like, the pain in the ass it would be to go buy a new phone
because the team will just do it for me.
I would throw my phone out a lot of windows.
You just play hockey with it every day for fun?
I would just, like, break the shit out of that thing.
It's kind of like when you go out and you get, like, there are pennies, and you're like,
I don't even need these, but that's Tom Brady and, like, Microsoft Surfaces, just throwing them away.
Yeah.
I would devise new ways to
destroy things. I've thought about this many times.
If I was like the richest man on earth, you know what I would
it was just like an absolutely
wasteful expense, but I would never wear
a pair of socks twice.
You know, you know what Floyd Mayweather is?
Floyd Mayweather does not wear
underwear again. Oh, underwear.
Ploid Mayweather only wears new underwear.
Honestly, one of the best profiles I've ever,
I think it's Tim Kian, ESB in the MAG,
the Floyd Mayweather, the last great
prize fighter. There's like 45
details in there that are insane, one of which is
he color codes his cars with his houses
so he knows what city's in when he wakes
up in the morning. It's like Vegas is all black.
Miami's all white, and he wakes up
but he's like, I don't know what city is. I'm going to look out. He's like, oh,
my white Ferrari. Okay, I must be in Miami.
Oh, my God. Didn't Michael Jordan
wear a new pair of shoes every game?
See, that doesn't make sense to me because like you want
the shoes to be kind of worn in and fitted your feet.
I would like not do that. That seems terrible.
Your feet would be a terrible shape.
I think underwear on the first wear
is not the best experience.
You want a couple in.
You want the fabric to, you know,
loosen up just to touch.
You don't want it too new.
Sox, I'm completely the other way around.
Sox, a fresh new pair of socks.
It only goes downhill.
Noted.
Noted.
So anyway, the Bill's Dolphins game.
Yeah.
The Dolphins won.
The other thing I wanted to note was
the players just spayed out
in 100 degree heat at the end of the game.
Look, I can't remember being so
concerned for a group of players.
is writ large. Like obviously football, violent, concerning game, many moments where you're
worried about a player's health. I have never remembered being so worried for so many people.
They looked so like, I was like, this game, if it was high school, they would have been
like canceled this game. It was like dangerous. Dude, and people were freaking out in the Tampa
Bay game, too. Like, uh, Florida, maybe we should ban games in Florida. Or you could just take
away the word games. You could just ban Florida. Just kind of a general Florida ban.
Yeah. Universal ban on Florida.
Yeah, bans are in vogue.
There were so many, I've never seen the game with more people leaving because of cramps than in this game.
No.
It was like 100 degrees.
It was, I mean, also like Isaiah McKenzie, so the bills grew up the end of the game.
And I mean, also, the reason Ken Dorsey was throwing is freaking out.
If you haven't seen the video, you've got to look it up.
But Ken Dorsey is freaking out because Josh Allen, bizarre play.
I mean, the end of the first half he tried to.
do a spike and drop the ball and like through it.
And then the end of the game, he kind of does the same thing and throws his
James and he doesn't go to bounds.
He skipped it to him.
Yeah.
And just the whole thing was bizarre.
And then what was crazy was Isaiah McKenzie drops to the ground and he sometimes got,
he like couldn't get up like four different players in the field were like,
thank God this is over.
I can't go on.
Gabe Davis looked like he wanted to like be transported to another dimension.
Yeah, it looked bad, man.
Also, butt punt.
Just wanted to like discuss this.
Butt punt.
But punt.
There's an incredible photo of this.
If you Google like butt punt USA Today,
shout out to the photographer who got this.
It's like this guy, Jason Vinloff,
this guy should win a freaking Pulitzer.
Who's the person that got punted in the ass here?
Who's this guy that's past protecting or whatever?
Let me look at up.
Dolphins number, is that 14?
Yeah, I think so.
Trent Sherfield.
Oh, okay.
the former 49ers wide receiver
that's got to sting a little
or a lot.
Do you think that Trent Sherfield knows yet
that this will define his career
or is he going to find that out later?
I don't think this is
this isn't,
that's not very embarrassing for Trent
Sherfield.
It's just like a funny play.
He's a professional athlete
and most people
will just the rest of his life
be like, you're the guy
who got kicked in the butt.
Like yeah, that's embarrassing.
This challenge is the saying
is any publicity, good publicity.
know. That's a saying about like, like brand awareness, not like ego.
Like someone's personal ego, definitely bad PR.
Maybe he could turn this into a brand deal.
Dude, Mark Sanchez, he did the butt fumble.
He's calling games today, making millions of dollars calling games.
Like, he'll be fine.
I don't know if that was because of the butt fumble.
No, I'm saying he's going to survive this.
It's not going to kill him.
He'll be fine.
He'll be fucking fine.
Mark Sanchez was very famous.
All right, let's move on.
Anyway.
I love doing this every week.
The best play that nobody saw because it was called back,
T. Higgins had a ridiculous touchdown in the end zone.
And it wasn't called back.
He was just barely out of bounds.
Yeah.
But, man, T. Higgins would be like the number one wide receiver
on 26 NFL teams if it weren't for it.
He's really good and constantly overshadowed.
Including the Packers who did not take him.
For a visual, like he leaped up in the back of the end zone,
pirouetted, caught the ball, and toe-tied.
both of his feet down at the same time,
and it looked from a couple different angles,
like he just only touched his toes.
Like, he basically did, like, a ballerina toe touch,
and then fell out of bounds.
But then there was one angle
where you could kind of see his heel came down out of bounds,
and they, like, so they wouldn't overturn it.
But it was so close.
While we're spending so much time in Tehiggins,
though I'd be remiss,
he just should not have returned to this game
because he already had a concussion after, like, week one.
Speaking of that, how did we pass over the Dolphins game, Tua?
Yeah, what was that?
that that was very bizarre so this is delicate so why is it delicate well so basically they're saying
that to it obviously so toa like you know got didn't even look that bad like he got knocked over
and he like hit his head against the back of the field gets up stumbles falls concussion spotters
like get him out they check him he returns the game and the and now the nflPA is investigating why
did he return the official line is that he already had a back injury and his back locked up on that
Which is interesting.
I've had my back lock up before.
Not that I'm like in the same world as Tua is,
but like that's not what happens when your backlocked up.
He didn't put his hand on his back.
He was shaking his head back and forth,
trying to like, you know, shake off the blurry vision.
He was concussed.
His linemen had to hold him up.
Like if it's not that, they're explicitly lying.
And so I, look, I don't know because I think that the only reason I'm not willing to say
that they just lied is that I think generally speaking,
this is always important to remember.
We have no fucking idea.
what's going on with these guys' bodies.
Like football is intensely violent.
And you really don't find out, like, the majority of things that you're dealing with
in a given season.
So I'm just not willing to be like, well, Tua's back is fine.
Like, I don't know if two is back is fine.
Maybe it did.
I don't know.
I mean, it certainly looks suspect enough for the NFLPA to launch an investigation.
That's the thing.
The NFLP is investigating it.
You don't know if I didn't hear that.
That's not super common.
Is it?
No.
No.
No, that is extremely uncommon.
So I should tell you something, perhaps.
Anyway, before we get out of here,
we're doing this new segment on Sunday nights
where we read a list of stat lines from today
that we don't understand and thus will not respond to.
I have the Ike and Tina Tuna.
Plater platter.
I don't understand the question,
and I won't respond to it.
Here we go.
Devante Parker had 156 receiving yards today.
Mack Hollins is the leading wide receiver on the Raiders
on a team with Devante Adams,
Darren, Hunterrento after three weeks.
Oh, God.
The three leading receivers on the Panthers today were Leviska-Shanalt,
Shee Smith, and Giovanni Ricci.
Shy Smith.
Bullshit.
Bullshit.
Jiavani what?
Giovanni Ritchie, remember he was in Saving Private Ryan?
Is he a fullback?
He was good in that.
He reminds me like Giovati.
Oh, my God.
Dude.
Imagine if Giovanni Rubisi was in the NFL.
Giovanni Ritchie sounds like when I get a soccer update once every six months,
and it's like, oh, my God.
this guy's getting transferred to Barcelona.
I'm like, oh my God, is he good?
Yeah, so today we've had Giovanni Ribisi and Andrea Bichelli.
Both have strong starts.
Big day for the Italians.
Both out to teaching more Giovanni and G.
Andre Bichickin.
Continuing here, Chris Moore led the Texans in receiving yards today.
In the Lions and Vikings game, the two leading receivers on either team were Josh Reynolds and K.J. Osborne.
And the leading wide receiver on the Rams with Cooper Cup.
And Alan Robinson was Ben Scoronic.
You know what I love about the Ben Scoronix stat line is like, he's their part-time fullback.
He literally gets like eight to ten snaps at fullback every game.
He's like.
He's the Rams energy vampire.
Ben Scoronix's the energy vampire in the Rams.
He's the one that when they walk in, everyone's like, oh.
I'm going to add a few things, notable things that we're acknowledging,
acknowledging but not elaborating on.
And I didn't make the, I didn't really get very far through this list, but here's a few.
Markis Brown had 17 targets.
targets today.
14 catches.
Greg Dorch.
Dorched.
Is currently the wide receiver 18 in PPR
through three weeks.
Greg fucking Dorch.
Why is it?
Dki,
I feel like your fantasy name should just be
all caps,
dorched.
Dorched.
I might change it,
yeah.
Devin Singletary of all people
had nine catches today.
Didn't see that coming.
Gabe Davis,
meanwhile,
had 80,
he played 86 snaps
in the 100 degree heat.
after being like injured all this guy after being injured oh yeah if you watch this game game dave at the
end they were targeting him i i i watch it football a long time i mean this i don't know if i have
ever seen a player so tired as i saw game dave yeah i mean i believe it there was a moment too
one of their offensive line one of the bills offensive linemen went down for a minute and he was like
on his knees and the training staff was around him i was like legit worried his his face was the
reddest I've seen anyone's face before.
It was scary.
Dude, also, the thing you remember that's honestly very easy to forget is when these guys get
hurt and they miss like a week, they're not training.
And when you're at this level of athleticism and you're not like running and you can't
like run full speed and like do these drills, like your cardio does dip at the level you
need to like play a full NFL game.
And so sometimes it's a little easy to get winded coming up from injury.
The fact that Gabe Dave came back from an ankle injury and played 86 snaps on this
freaking game is kind of insane.
Yeah. I mean, the fact that there was even 86
snaps. I mean, the dolphins won this game and they only
ran 39 plays. It was like... Thirty-nine plays is not very many at all.
Josh Allen had 60
past attempts or whatever in a game where the dolphins had 30...
63 attempts. Bills had 90 plays and lost.
I mean, the dolphins, like, the all-time, like,
stay out of the heat and will still win the game award. Good for them.
Did you see that during the game, it was talking about
how the Dolphins Stadium was designed around the
track of the sun during the day.
And so like at 1 p.m.
Local time, when the game started or whatever,
the sun is just beating down on the opposing bench.
And they are in the shade.
Wow, that is diabolical.
I'm pretty sure I saw that about this game
because it was like 100 and something degrees on the field.
Wow. So that was actually a part of the stadium planning.
That's like what they want to do at Jerry World.
Someone like at me on Twitter if I'm mixing up the stadiums.
But I think I heard that about this game.
I feel like that's what they wanted to do at Jerry World.
And then Jerry forgot that sometimes the sun would just hit like the cowboys in the eyes and he just never thought.
Well, this is like, okay, I actually appreciate what they did with Hard Rock Stadium because like half the stadiums in the NFL, it's like the sun is shining through the back of the end zone and blinding everyone on the field for half the game.
Like can you get some curtains or something?
This is ridiculous.
It's like the stadium in Indianapolis for one, the stadium in Houston.
They both have like big windows and everyone on the field is like blinded for half the game.
game. I'll never forget last year when there was a Monday night football game in SoFi Stadium and
it was raining. It was like thundering and lightning in LA. Lightning the lightning. And there was a delay.
They couldn't start the game because of lightning and it's in a dome. But because there's like these like open,
the stadium is like open on the sides, but it's domed on top. And it's like, oh my God. Couldn't you just?
Dude, additionally.
Legally, yeah, legally they were like, actually this isn't really. I know we've been saying it's a dome,
but like legally we're not. Oh, yeah, by the way, it's not a dome. It's a greenhouse.
It's like literally the roof is just windows.
And everything inside the stadium is like 30 degrees warmer than it is on the outside.
You could grow some really good like tomato plants in there.
But it's like 100 degrees in there on a sunny day.
Who designed this?
Couldn't you just make a dome put AC in?
Just put a goddamn roof on.
Seriously.
You know what?
This is great.
You're in Los Angeles.
It's hot there.
We already talked about how we don't know anything about advertising.
And now we can add architecture.
There's just things who have no idea how they wear.
They're just not even close to close.
Just put a roof on there.
A bunch of AC units.
If you're an architect,
emails at Ringer Fantasy Football.
Let us walk around inside the stadium
instead of having to walk through the stands, too,
while you're at it.
Why are you so passionate about this?
It's annoying.
It is annoying.
Okay, anyway, we're going to go.
All right, thank you, D.K.,
thank you, Craig.
Thank you to everybody for listening
through that.
Oh, my God.
All right, thank you to,
my God.
Andre Bechelli, Giovanni,
Giovanni, Ibini.
Jivani.
You beat me to it.
Thank you, Lauren.
Thank you, my chemical romance.
I cannot believe you did not thank Andre Bechelli, like the singer.
We mentioned him like four times already.
He had a good game today.
He doesn't need to be thanked.
He's doing fine.
Is he an opera singer?
I don't even know who that is, to be honest.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like he's a bigger deal than Stan Gets.
I feel like I got a lot of shit for not knowing Stan Gets.
I feel like Andrea Bichelli is more famous.
Okay, let's do it.
the test on Spotify.
On, how do you spell it?
Andre.
Well, with all love and do respect to Spotify,
I think that Andreabicelli's been around for much longer than Spotify has.
Oh, I know, but this is a good, this is the way that we're going to test it.
Oh, God.
Andre Bechelli has like a song with Ed Shearin.
That doesn't count.
Okay, so the one after that is $104 million.
What's all Stan gets at?
Stan gets $133 million.
They're very close.
Yeah, hi, Fitz.
I'm not going to concede that one.
I will not get Tyler Conklin again.
You're not going to concede the guy who has,
how many was it, Craig?
133 million?
Yeah.
I'm going to toss this to the, again, ringer fantasy football at gmail.com.
I have a feeling on Andrea Bichelle.
He's going to come out with the W on this one.
I would tend to agree.
Well, we're not comparing.
You're just saying that you shouldn't have known who Stan gets his.
Like he's like some unknown under the radar.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying
I'm just surprised
that you've never heard of
Andre Bechelli.
That's all I was trying to say.
I've heard of him.
I just didn't know exactly who he was.
Oh.
It sounded familiar
and I thought that he was an opera singer.
I got it right.
I said he's an opera guy,
right?
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
Great.
Have a great Sunday night, everybody.
See?
I thought of his arguments.
It's just,
you know, conversation.
Goodbye, everyone.
Oh, shit.
Contra Pachelius played at Washington.
I should have known this.
I should really have known that.
