The Ringer NFL Show - Week 3 Winners, Losers, and Awards

Episode Date: September 26, 2022

We recap Week 3 in the NFL by giving out awards like Winner of the Week; the Mansplain of the Week; the Hometown 10; Call Off the Search We Found Them; the Stat Lines We Won’t Acknowledge, and more,... before we induct the next player into our 2022 Fantasy Burn Book. Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:01 I'm Yossi Salek, and I'm the host of Bansplain, a show where we explain cult bands and iconic artists by going deep into their histories and discographies. We're back with a brand new season at our brand new home, the Ringer podcast network, tackling a whole new batch of artists, from Grunge Gods to Power Pot pioneers to new metal legends and many, many more. Listen to new episodes every Thursday, only on Spotify. The Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Heifitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck. Sunday of week three is over. It was kind of boring. Not as a setting since those two weeks. We're going to go through categories.
Starting point is 00:00:55 We're going to kind of sum up everything and happen to week three. Everything we saw, everything we felt. Starting off going winners and losers. I kind of want to nominate a first winner here, which is just all the Russian quarterbacks. Yeah. Cheat code. Hyfitz, you hate it?
Starting point is 00:01:10 I know. Hyvitz. Do you love this or hate this? You have a love-hate relationship with running quarterbacks in the current state of fantasy football? Well, to be clear, running quarterbacks, it's not a cheat code. It's just the rules of fantasy football are dumb.
Starting point is 00:01:21 And I mean, it's just silly that like a rushing guard's worth two and a half times more than a passing guard. But it's the world we live in. And if you have a running quarterback, I mean, just fact. But if you have a running quarterback, you're doing great. I mean, like the top three quarterbacks today, it's like Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hertz, Josh Allen, all three of those dudes were also top four last week. And it just seems increasingly clear that the guys with the elite ceiling and then also
Starting point is 00:01:45 the guys with the high floors. The guys that don't have bad weeks but also have week winning weeks are just all the guys with running ability. And if you don't have one of those dudes, you're probably very unhappy. Yeah. The traditional dropback pastors are just like falling by the wayside. I know. It's funny. Now when I watch like a quarterback who's a traditional pastor like Tom Brady, I'm like, man, how the hell is he going to get to 22 fantasy points? He says to that he has to have the game of his life to get there. Dude, Stephen Ruiz made the Or is it so like, I don't know, they're bleeding together in my mind, but that joke about the Seth Curry,
Starting point is 00:02:20 not Seth Curry, Steph Curry's father's, the Dell Curry tweet about that, man, you don't want to date. You haven't been out here, man. Like, you don't want that. And it's like when the Steelers drafted Kenny Pickett, they're like, dude, really? This kind of court. Like, this is not what it's like anymore.
Starting point is 00:02:32 And it's like, I just feel the same way about, even Daniel Jones every now and then when he runs. I'm like, oh, God, at least he can do this. Like watching Jimmy Garoppel with the Niners tonight. I'm like, oh, my God. What does he even do? too. Yeah. It's a double-edged sword though, too, because, like, I mean, we saw it with Justin Fields today, man. It's like, God, you know, you get enticed by the athleticism, the overall speed, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:58 But, like, they've thrown the ball like seven times a game. It's ridiculous. But that's a specific situation. But overall, I think that the whole model is what happened with Lamar Jackson today. Lamar Jackson, I mean, he leads the NFL impasse rating. He also is third in rushing yards. It's none of my quarterbacks, just period. He's Lamar Jackson's third in rushing yards. He's the fourth player in NFL history to have four passing touchdowns and 100 rushing yards in the same game. Michael Vic never even did that.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Well, and you know what's funny about Russ? I feel like, I mean, about Lamar, is I feel like Lamar is evolving kind of to a passing quarterback who just kind of runs whenever he wants to, but whenever he wants to run, he's the best rushing quarterback in the league. It feels like they're designing him less,
Starting point is 00:03:36 and he's just dropping back to pass, and if nothing's there, he just takes off for 15. I completely agree. It feels that with Jalen Hertz, too. Like honestly, when Jalen Hertz first came, they feel less reliant on the run. Even when he was at Oklahoma, I remember watching me like,
Starting point is 00:03:50 this would be cool, but like when he got drafted, I was like, it felt like his passing game wasn't there enough. And he has improved, like so much. And again, he's gotten a little bit better every single year.
Starting point is 00:04:02 It's like the compound interest of his career. And Jalen Hertz, he had three passing touchdowns at halftime. Jalen Hertz, speaking of weird stats, and you can kind of set the passing rushing stats to skew however you want, which is what's happening.
Starting point is 00:04:13 But who cares? But Jalen Hertz is the only player in NFL history with 900 passing yards and 150 rushing yards in his team's first three games. First player ever to do that. Wow. But more importantly, he's seen the whole field. Like he's seeing progressions. He's going left. Like there was a point, it's not as fun to say Zoolander, but kind of Zoolander, like one field.
Starting point is 00:04:32 He's doing the whole field reads. He's seen the middle of the field. He's thrown in the middle of field. Like he is, I mean, as a Giants fan and someone is to play against the Eagles, I went from thinking the Giants and Eagles would be competing for a quarterback. and next year's draft to actually Jailen Hurtz might be good enough that he just can rock the Giants the next five years. I'm kind of terrified. You mentioned Jalen Hertz in this category, but he had his second lowest, it's all this. He had his second lowest rushing total as a starter.
Starting point is 00:04:57 He had 20 yards rushing. And he just did it all with his arm this week, which is super encouraging. That's kind of like exactly my point. It's like when Jalen Hertz is now at the point of his career where he doesn't need to rush for 80 yards to win a football game and have a good game, that's when you know he's at his scariest. Yeah. Get you someone who can do both that doesn't have to have to run. Meanwhile, Josh Allen had a quote unquote disappointing game. He's top three. He also had like 70 dropbacks of this.
Starting point is 00:05:22 400 yards today. 400 yards on the nose. And it's like, well, eight carries for like almost 50. So anyway, if you need a run, like if you have a rushing quarterback, it's great. And if you listen to us and you took Trey Lance, who's the only one who sucked and got hurt. So I'm sorry. Well, he got hurt. That's not our fault. Hey, no. Do you think it's weird that Lamar Jackson,
Starting point is 00:05:42 is playing like maybe even better than he did as an MVP a couple of years ago and the Ravens just refused to sign him to a long term contract like what are they thinking now I don't think they refused I mean look think with well they they couldn't come to an agreement yeah no well they couldn't come to agreement also this is a different negotiation than other ones I don't know if we've talked about this but it's worth it since you're going to hear about the Lamar thing the way that the negotiations usually work is obviously the player is an agent agent negotiates to the team and then like the reports you hear are coming from either side in the negotiation. Lamar doesn't have an agent.
Starting point is 00:06:16 He's literally him and his mom were negotiating this. Yeah. Ian Rappaport, not tight with Lamar Jackson's mom. Like Adam Schaefter, not like, you know, adding Drew Rosenhaus, like not sure Adam Schaefter knows Lamar Jackson's mom. Like, no one really knows what's up with this negotiation. So it's more opaque than other ones. And then also on top of that, the Deshawn Watson contract being fully guaranteed
Starting point is 00:06:40 to say nothing of all the literally dozens of things Deshaun Watson's been accused of, even just strictly on the field, Lamar Jackson's has an objectively better football career than Deshawn Watson. And so I think kind of what's going on here is Lamar Jackson's mom is like, why does Deshaun Watson get all that money and my son does it? My son's better. And like the Ravens are like, well, it's tough. So like the Ravens are kind of, that's why Steve Beshati, the Ravens owner,
Starting point is 00:07:07 was apparently so mad at the Browns' house. owners about giving DeShone Watson that contract. Yeah, because they don't want that precedent. Yeah. Yeah, they don't want to give guarantee hundreds of millions of dollars of Lamar. So I don't know. But yeah, when he's playing like this, I mean, pretty difficult to not want to keep him around. It's so fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:07:25 He's the most fun player to watch. So those are the winners. Losers of the day. Yeah, so the subcategory, the sub award here for the losers, the Dead Dove Award, which we unveiled last week, the Arrested Development Dead Dove. I don't know what I was expecting award. I'm in a Superflex league in my high school long running league.
Starting point is 00:07:44 It's been a decade. We've had this league and I drafted two quarterbacks this year, Justin Herbert and Tom Brady. Tough. And, you know, I didn't have a ton of options this week with Justin Herbert's fractured rib cartilage and Tom Brady being 45 years old and throwing to a bunch of no names.
Starting point is 00:08:02 So I don't know what I was expecting today, but they played like shit. And Tom Brady's been bad for three straight weeks. and Herbert is very injured. And you know what? He actually cobbled together a decent stat line. He fumbled, he threw a pick,
Starting point is 00:08:13 but he had 300 yards and a touchdown. He didn't look right. But man, it's tough out there for these two right now. I don't know when it's going to get any better either. I guess when they got Mike Evans coming back for Tom Brady next week. But like, is Herbert's, like,
Starting point is 00:08:25 I'm worried that Herbert needs two months, realistically, to like actually let his ribs heal, but he's going to play every single week. And we're just going to get the worst of both worlds for the Chargers and for Justin's health. I totally respect Herbert. being a warrior gamer and that's blah, blah, blah. It's kind of crazy to me.
Starting point is 00:08:42 He was out there down 28 points with like two minutes left. Oh, 100%. It's fucking nuts. Did you hear Staley in the press conference after of why they kept him out there? And he was like, Justin wanted to stay out there, you know, like get some momentum going into the next week, like hype up the team. I was like, what are you fucking talking about, dude?
Starting point is 00:08:57 Take him out of the games. It's crazy. Also, you know what else would be cool? Getting your backup quarterback reps who will probably have to play really soon. I know. But yeah, no, it's, it's, Brady had a terrible game too, and it's weird because it said Dead Dove right on the back. Like I said, Mike Evans suspended right there in the game.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Yeah, like, Breshaad Perman had a fumble. Like, it was a mess. Russell Gage ended up being great. Yeah, I mean, he ended up salvaging the day. But, like, dude, watching the Buccaneers receiving core today was seriously frustrating. Like, they are terrible. I mean, I guess it is exactly the category. It's like, what would you expect from a bunch of, like, backups?
Starting point is 00:09:36 but dude, it was so frustrating. Like, Scotty Miller, get him out of here. Like, get this guy out of here. I can't watch another Scotty Miller snap. Do you know what we have not made a big enough deal of this year? Is that the most on-the-nose metaphor, I feel like I've ever seen in 20 years of football, which is Tom Brady returning to football this year
Starting point is 00:09:56 and literally having to play through an injury to his ring finger. It's like, I cannot. Wait, is it on his left hand or right hand? No, it's not on. It's on the right hand. So it's not on the correct hand. But it actually matters because it's on his throwing hand. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:10:12 So, yeah, it's not as perfect. But every single game, they're like, yeah, Tom Brady's ring finger. And I'm just like, man, like sometimes life, it's not even subtle. It's like, yeah. Also, do you think Jazeel is watching these games and it's like, bam, he's like refusing to, like, spend his time with my family so he can go out there and be with Rashad Parraiman? Yeah. Hey, two and one, you know? After today, Tom Brady is the QB 26.
Starting point is 00:10:40 He's got to be an ultimate by-low, right? Like, in three-God. Three weeks from now, he's going to have Mike Evans, Chris Godwin. Like, let's be honest, Gronk might be here by like week eight. Things could look a lot different. Yeah. I think, yeah, I think he's definitely a by-low because the person knows Tom Brady's freaking out.
Starting point is 00:10:55 But in reality, Tom Brady's fine. Tom Brady's playing well. Tom Brady's still playing great. It's just like... It's like we've said this a few times. He doesn't look bad. No. The receiver sucks.
Starting point is 00:11:04 He doesn't look bad. His face looks sunken like he's gotten way too much plastic. He's just getting ready for Halloween a little early. He's going to be a skeleton. He looks dead. He's got blue paint all over him. It's just, you know, it's obviously like Tom Brady at this point in his career. Like it's entirely about timing rhythm.
Starting point is 00:11:19 The entire idea of what advantages he brings requires everyone to have like a baseline level of practice on IQ. And I mean, they have freaking Cole Beasley there. The fact that Cole Beasley even had to play after he signed with them on Wednesday is kind of nuts. I feel like the first three weeks of the season has been such a, I don't know what the word is, referendum maybe on why teams went out and spent just absolutely obscene money on receivers this offseason and like traded, like look at what the dolphins are doing with their receivers. How about the Jaguars who everyone made fun of for paying Christian Kirk? Kirk is awesome.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And now absolutely walloped the chargers are two and one and among all the division winners have the best point to French in the NFL. I think the only person that the only player that's like kind of going against the grain on all this is is Lamar. But like everybody else in the NFL, it's like, dude, having elite receivers turns out it's very useful. It's helpful. Like let's go get some of them. AJ Brown and Philly. Like I feel like the Eagles like built the roadmap to like surround your quarterback with the right pieces to actually help them succeed.
Starting point is 00:12:22 We left that out of the Gillen Hertz conversation. But AJ Brown is a massive part of like what I mean, he certainly helped make Gillen Hertz's life easier. And even with Lamar, the only reason it's not. thing with Lamar is just like, I mean, the benefits the receiver usually brings Lamar's kind of just bring into the table himself with the playmaking. But on that note, though, I'm talking about this. Aaron Rogers, I kind of thought played incredible today. And I don't know, it was one of those like going to this game. I was like, how are they going to do this? The fact that with all those guys hurt, he kind of made Romeo Dobbs like, fine. It was pretty impressive. And Alan Lazard
Starting point is 00:12:55 showed up, Tanya. Well, on that note, another window this week, just the Randos, man. Oh my God. Okay, so this is the, also known as, man, my bench went off today award. Like, is there a worst feeling when, like, it's hard. Sometimes it's actually like a kind of an okay feeling. The optimal lineup award. But like, good God, man. I had several people sending me lineups today of like their bench just scoring like 150 points.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Outscoring your lineup. We need a word for that. There's nothing worse than when you click optimal lineup and your team jumps up like 78 points. Man. Yeah, that's tough. So I want to just run through a list of guys that were most likely on rosters, but just absolutely very unlikely in starting lineups this week. Khalil Herbert, who was the highest scoring skill player in PPR this week,
Starting point is 00:13:46 that was an injury situation so you get that. But like Devante Smith, he was incredible, absolutely absurd this week. He was started in only 25% of ESPN leagues. Jamal Williams started in 4% of leagues had 24 points. Devin Singletary started in 28% of leagues, 20 points. Isaiah McKenzie started in 1% of leagues. He had 18 points. Devante Parker, Craig's guy, 18 points.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Never wrong, just early. Started in less than 1% of ESPN leagues. Tyler Boyd, 18.5 ppr points, or half ppr points. 3% started. The list just goes on. Roger Stevenson, KJ. Osborne, Mac Collins, Romeo Dobbs, Zay Jones, all these guys, Russell Gage, all these guys were started in, like,
Starting point is 00:14:27 less than 5% of the top like 20 or so wide receivers about half of them were were in the like less than 5% started and then of the top 12 like half of the top 12 wide receivers this week were like 1% yeah and it was a bizarre day for all like the actual good wide receivers like the jemar chases cooper cup had like 40 yards receiving uh jason jesus jefferson didn't know anything we'll get to him later but yeah the very bottom heavy day for the receivers empty cowlers what is it like the if the tree falls in the forest and does make, or is there, and there's no one around to hear it, does it make it sound? Like, just hate that. Well, no, I think that what happens in a week like this is if you look at your league and you just kind of like, look at the general points being scored, every
Starting point is 00:15:10 team is just kind of less than you think. And you're like, where did those points go? And you're like, oh, yeah, right. They went to Mack Hollins. That's where they went. They all went to Mac Collins and Zay Jones. All right. Another loser. First of all, I mean, everyone who watched Sunday football's kind of a loser, right? Correct. We are all now dumber. Yeah. I award you no points.
Starting point is 00:15:32 My award for this loser is, it goes to Russ Wilson, and the award is she's a hometown 10, but an LA4. God, that's Russ. Russ in Seattle, hometown 10, and then the second he leaves, things have been grim in Denver for Russ. He's an LA4 in Denver. He's no L-Way, that's for sure. He's no L-Way.
Starting point is 00:15:52 He's the 22nd quarterback in fantasy on the year. He had nine fantasy points today, man. He was missing throws left and right. You know what was sad tonight was he had one good drive to end the game where he made like three throws. And they're like, this is why you, Chris Collins was like, this is why you bring him in here. You're doing Russell Wilson stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:13 This is why you got him here. It's like he made three throws in an hour, in a 60 minute game. He should have been doing that the whole game. They had eight three and outs in this game. Russell Wilson, $250 million Russell Wilson, had eight three and outs in this game. They have three touchdowns in 12 quarters. And he's like, everyone's like,
Starting point is 00:16:29 well, this is why you bring him in here. Look at Russ making shit happen. It's like he was terrible all night. I feel like people have been gaslit a little bit on like what Russell Wilson actually is. Like the highs, like his good games, his elite games are like insane. But like to me, I'm like this is sort of the majority of what it feels like when Russell Wilson is just firing a hundred and two amount of fastballs to his running backs on checkdowns. It's like he plays like shit for three quarters. and then he like put together some magic in the Seahawks win.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Or sorry, in the Broncos win. But like this is me just remembering kind of like how it was. Of course he put, he was always very efficient throughout the years. But it was always like a low volume thing. And then he just made like a couple magical plays and like pulled a rabbit out of the hat kind of deal. What was he efficient at tonight getting three and outs? He was super efficient at that. I mean, I'm just going to read.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I mean, just to sort of somewhere on the same page here in case you were spared to center of football. The Broncos started three and out punt, three and out punt, three and out. punt field goal, punt, three and out punt with a lost yardage, come out of the second half, go rah-rah, three-and-out punt with a lost yardage again, three-and-out punt, missed field goal, three-and-out punt, three-and-out punt, touchdown, three-and-out punt. He's been booed a lot already. Like, he's getting booed hard. To your point, I wish we could find this stat. honestly, I kind of wish we need bills
Starting point is 00:17:54 unofficial help for this. In any sport, has any team given up so much in a trade and a contract for a player like Russ that was getting booed so quickly into a season by his home crowd? It took like six quarters of football's number one.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Two, with the Russell Wilson thing, I've been trying to... They were counting down the play clock. Dude, I had two thoughts. I had two thoughts with Russell Wilson. Not today, but last week. But this travesty of a game tonight,
Starting point is 00:18:25 if Tua had done what Russ did tonight and Russ have been doing what Tua did this season, what would we be saying? If Russell Wilson had the four touchdowns in the fourth quarter and had beaten Josh Allen today, we would be losing our shit, including me. Like, meanwhile, if Tua was doing this, he'd be getting ripped. And then I, like, the other thing I thought was the whole reason they brought Russell Wilson in was because how bad the Broncos quarterbacks have been the last like six years. Was he in any way like better than like what Trevor Simeon brought to Denver?
Starting point is 00:18:59 Was he better than like what Drew Locke was doing? Was this performance actually better? Statistically no. Right? Yeah, I think it's going to get bad. I think that they're going to like iron stuff out and everything. But yeah, like it's been bad. Dude, literally they've been booing him.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Like that is insane to me. Did you see his post game? conversation on the field getting interviewed? Dude, he's the biggest corn ball on the planet. The first thing he says is like Nathaniel Hackett
Starting point is 00:19:28 is just such a great coach. He's teaching us, we're learning from him, we're getting better every day. What a game out there, what a game. Defense has played so hard. The Niners, he's like,
Starting point is 00:19:37 I've played the Niners a lot in my career. We're like, yeah, dude, we know. All right, we all know you played the Niners. They're a tough team. What a game. What a game. Let's ride. Dude, they won the game, by the way.
Starting point is 00:19:48 feel like we should point that out again. They won 11 to 10. They had 9 3 outs and 11 points. And they only won because Jimmy Garoppola walked out of the back of the fucking end zone to give them a safety. The most entertaining part of this whole game was Jimmy Garapolo going out of the back and Dan Orlovsky tweeting, freedom! Like he's in Braveheart. This, again, I'm just going to repeat it again.
Starting point is 00:20:13 This is like classic. This is the same old Russell Wilson to be. Like I feel like nothing has changed. Maybe the stats are slightly worse, yes, probably. But like the same old shit. This is exactly the script of every fucking Seahawks game for the last 10 years. It's a terrible, disgusting, low-scoring slog of a game. Yeah, but we thought that was a magical thing.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I had to pull up a tweet of mine from 2018 today and send it to Broncos fans. Familiar feeling following the Seahawks win today. Misery. Like, that was from 2018. Like, this has been happening for fucking years. This is just who Russell Wilson is. It's all that, minus the fun and minus the fantasy production. Here, this year, he's had 17 points and you're like, okay, that was that weird game against Seattle, I guess.
Starting point is 00:20:58 And then he said 12, and then this week he had nine. Yeah. This is not the let Russ cook Russell Wilson, obviously. This is like... Get him out of the kitchen. Everything else, Russell Wilson, the rest of his career, Russell Wilson. Because he actually completed, like, what was it? What was he?
Starting point is 00:21:15 He was 20 of 33. Yeah. he didn't throw a pick like well on that note freaking while we're talking about this game javanti williams man yeah let's talk about that we're not mad we're just disappointed the dad award it's javanti
Starting point is 00:21:28 we're so dumb because we were on this in the preseason we were like they resigned melvin gordon we all know what's going to happen we all we're all wish casting we want javanti to be the guy he had 11 catches in week one everybody flipped out this is the you know it's finally happened and what happened tonight
Starting point is 00:21:44 givante williams melvin gordon split exactly the same amount of snaps, 26 a pop. Melvin Gordon got the goal line touches and scored the touchdown. They have pretty much an even split on the year. This is what we knew what happened. And it's happening. Mike Boone got 13 snaps. Like they even added to it.
Starting point is 00:22:00 No, that's what I was going to add? It's like, now fucking Mike Boone is involved. Before years ago. There's nothing coaches love more than outsmarting themselves. Why are you putting Mike Boone on the field, dude? What in the hell? Yeah. They just get off on it.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Honestly, I don't have anything good to say about Javonte Williams' fantasy managers. I just, I don't have anything for you. I want to apologize. Well, not apologize because I, you know, I still believe. But, I mean, last week, I was like, you know what, Javante, buy low. Because I thought I was going to explode. And like, honestly, I needed to be bonked. Too horny.
Starting point is 00:22:35 You weren't thinking with your brain. No. I was not thinking with my brain. All right. Our next award, today's rookie mistake award is presented by state. Snickers because we're presented by Snickers now. Yeah, advertisement. Heck yeah.
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Starting point is 00:23:03 Needed to add a kicker. Took our own advice. You know, cut your kicker. Figure out who to cut later. It's Sunday. I got to figure who to cut. I'm like, well, you know what? I got this backup running back.
Starting point is 00:23:12 He's a handcuff. doesn't have much value unless the main running back gets injured. And I'm like, what are the odds of that really? I got all these high upside receivers. I don't want to cut anyone. So how about I just cut Khalil Herbert? This is fine. Like, it's, Kalil Herbert's not even going to, what's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:23:28 What's going to happen if I really did think this morning? What's the worst thing that could possibly happen if I cut Khalil Herbert? Will my life really change that much? You know what? Did you happen to be hungry when you made that decision? I bet you were. I think I was, Craig. You know it would have helped.
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Starting point is 00:23:56 I was hungry when I made the decision. Well, you'll never make that mistake again until two weeks from now when we have another custom segment. It's going to sign two weeks from there. All right. Mansplane of the week while we're just going through mistakes of made. I kind of mansplained
Starting point is 00:24:13 the Chiefs Colts game. I love that this is an award now. This didn't work out the way that we envisioned it. I put $50 on this game, by the way, the Chief's winning by four and a half. It's hard to bet on sports, you guys. I put more in that. Mansplained of the week.
Starting point is 00:24:28 So basically, last week I was basically like Gus Bradley, who's the defensive coordinator for the Colts, just has not been able to stop Patrick Mahomes. Like everyone does the too high thing. And Gus Bradley's like, I'm going to do my own thing. And he just, for some reason, has played more than twice as much. of the coverage that doesn't work versus the Chiefs. And it never works.
Starting point is 00:24:44 And the Chief scored like 88 points of them in like 17 drives last year. And so obviously the Colts who have scored, not to mention that the Colts offense has the fewest points in the NFL through two weeks. Colts beat the Chiefs. Because nothing makes sense. My bad. Yeah. Explain that one, nerds.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Well, that's the thing. It's not a nerds thing. It's like the Jocs thing. It was like the tape heads. You know? The nerves aren't out here talking about zone coverage. So what happened? How did the Chiefs lose this?
Starting point is 00:25:18 So, well, I would say two things. I mean, credited Gus Bradley and the Colts. Like credited them at Ryan, tried to blow the game and then didn't. But like, uh... Some wonky special team stuff. So, yeah. So credit to Gus Bradley. Like, I think he, I don't, I mean, I got to watch the, I got to go back and watch
Starting point is 00:25:33 this game because I think I was having, you know, if you watch Archer, I was smelling toast the whole time. But basically, they played cover three. They played cover three, like they played softer and they played back. So like they gave up the easy stuff. And also I think they puts the fun Gilmore and Kelsey, which screwed them up. I don't know exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:48 What definitely did happen. Sky Moore fucked up. Skymore like muffed the initial punt and gave the Colts the ball inside the 10. So the Colts was punched in a touchdown. No. And then Patrick Holmes comes back, third down has like an easy touchdown at Jujs Smith-Juster for 80 yards. He just overthrows Juju.
Starting point is 00:26:06 So they punt. Then the Colts punt back and then Sky Moore just, screws up again and then the chiefs are pinned at their own one. And then it just, and then the chiefs, because Harrison Butgers hurt, so they like missed the field goal and they didn't trust their field goal kicker. So then they,
Starting point is 00:26:21 or fake punt, fake field go, I forget which. And then they didn't get that. So, I mean, all these things added up and suddenly, like they burned like five drives between the miss kick,
Starting point is 00:26:31 the bad fake and then the two muffs. And it's like, that was like half their drives basically. It was really bad. football's weird football's very weird and then he ends it with a pick my homes
Starting point is 00:26:43 yeah so yeah sorry for mansplaining that everybody that's all right yeah it happens it happens football is very strange in the spirit of coming clean
Starting point is 00:26:55 and apologizing for things this is that I've made a huge mistake award shout out to arrest of development Job I thought Baker Mayfield would be like an upgrade for the Panthers
Starting point is 00:27:04 based on what they've had over the last few years which is basically the worst quarterbacks in the NFL combined with all the different guys that they've had. Sam Darnold is the poster boy of all this. But I actually thought Baker Mayfield would be something closer to league average maybe. And that would be a huge benefit for everyone on this offense. Like, DJ Moore would finally go off.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Like things are somehow worse, I feel like, with Baker Mayfield under center, especially for DJ Moore, who's done absolutely nothing so far. Baker Mayfield in today's, and to be clear, I think they did, win today. They did in fact win. That doesn't matter to me. I think they won. I can't remember. Yeah, they got there's the thing. I don't care. I don't care. I'm not a Panthers fan. I don't care that they won. What I do care about is the fact that
Starting point is 00:27:50 DJ Moore had one catch for two yards. Baker Bayfield was 12 to 25, 170 yards in a touchdown. 67 of his 170 yards came on like a little dump off past the Liviska Schnell, which he ran for a touchdown. He had 44 yards passing at the half time. At the halftime. That's people say things.
Starting point is 00:28:09 He now ranks 28th out of 34 qualifying quarterbacks in completions and yards this year. He's taking nine sacks, which is the six most. The only quarterbacks with a worse off-target rate than Mayfield, which is 20%. One fifth of his passes are off-target, by the way, are Cooper Rush, Trey Lance, and Justin Fields. He has three touchdown passes in three games.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I probably, you're going to have to remind me a little bit how this all went down. I probably should have remembered more that O'Dell Beckham's dad basically, forced the Browns to trade O'Dow Beckham. Can you remind me how this all went down? Like, that should have been more of a red flag, probably. It was a massive red flag.
Starting point is 00:28:47 It was Odell Beckham's dad just put a super cut on Instagram that obviously he didn't. He got it. You know, he said, man in his 50s, he didn't put this together. He asked someone, make a cut of every time my son was open and Baker didn't get him the ball. And then he posted it and then said, get my son the ball with a bunch of cool funny hashtags about being a dad. And then they were like, wow, well,
Starting point is 00:29:08 this is awkward and they, like, got rid of Odell. But everyone, we kind of just were like, well, Baker's hurt and like hurt his shoulder. And now he's healthy and just sucks. It's crazy how hard it is to play quarterback that we have to, that there are so many teams that still have to start these guys every week. Jimmy Garapolo and Baker Mayfield and James Winston. Like, there's just such a muck of dudes that are too good to be backups, but not good enough to be starters.
Starting point is 00:29:33 It's so true. And during this season, I kind of felt like the level, the average level of quarterback play was higher than it had been in recent seasons. You know what I mean? Like some point when we were making our fantasy rankings like months and months and months ago, I was like, Aaron Rogers, the back-to-back MVP wasn't top 10 in our rankings. Just feels weird? Yeah, I was like the average, like Trevor Lawrence is like 16th.
Starting point is 00:29:53 That seems good. Holy crap. I mean, people, I mean, I mean, Carson Wentz was the top, top fantasy option, you know, today. But you're right that DJ Moore is there was like the Panthers are. paying the price here in Carolina. Like, I, I, apparently Craig and I put together the same list because I was going to steal Craig's idea of like the Kyle Pitts. Craig for a couple weeks has been doing two truths and a lie, which of these tight ends
Starting point is 00:30:22 outscored Cal Pitts. I put one together for DJ Moore. But Craig, did you actually also do that? Pretty much, but you go ahead, take it. Well, I just did two truths and a lie, which of these receivers outscored T.J. Moore. Dax, Milne. Milne. Milne.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Wasn't he the roommate of somebody? He was Zach Wilson's best friend. Oh, that's the one who was dating Zach Wilson's girlfriend. He's not dating Zach Wilson's girlfriend because Zach Wilson had sex with his mom's friend. Allegedly. Allegedly. By the way, I saw someone who had a Zach Wilson jersey today that said,
Starting point is 00:31:03 shit, what did it say? Something about it. Hunter or something. Something related. I don't remember exactly. Something to do with having sex with Milfs. Anyways. Nice.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Jeff fans. Sick. Anyway, so yeah, DJ Moore, you know what, I'll give that to you for free. He didn't have as many yards his next building. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Penny Hart? That's not a real person. I've never heard of him in my life. Is that like the lead singer of an 80s band? Who is that? Him and Aldous Snow. Dude, I know who Penny Hart is. He's on the Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:31:35 like their fifth, fifth receiver or something. Legit never heard of this. Andre Bachelia. Oh, the opera singer. I've heard of this person because the Cardinals cut him the other day. Now he's back and he had more yards than DJ more. And well, no, so Philip Dorset, Pennyhart, Andre Bachelia. Which of those people?
Starting point is 00:31:55 Well, knowing you fuckers, it's all of them. This guy's name is so close to Andrea Bichelli. I know, it's so close. No, it's a lie. Philip Dorset had exactly the same amount of yards. I legit don't know what team Philipson. But yeah, Dax Millney. What team is Philip Dorset on now?
Starting point is 00:32:11 The Texans, I think. I forget. Who cares? It doesn't matter. Okay. No, he's, I don't know. He is on the Texas, but he had one catch for 15 yards. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:32:21 DJ Moore, so he had one catch to you as 13 rushing yards. Between him and we didn't even get to Christian McCaffrey, who is a real, like, sweating at first overall pick. I'm going to do something a little early. I think we have to burn somebody from the Carolina Panthers. Either it's DJ Moore, either it's Baker or it's Ben McAdoo, the offensive coordinator, it's Matt Rule. Like this is burn, this is what the burn book is for. I mean, it's got to be DJ Moore, right?
Starting point is 00:32:50 Like, is he startable at this point? You know, he had a touchdown last week, he had 11 points. I benched him in our dynasty league today. Wow, good call. It's a 12-team league with like 40-person rosters. That's bad. That's Burton Baker, dude. We're done.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Well, that's, yeah, that's obvious. Because I'm not burning DJ Moore. It's fucking Baker Mayfield's fault. It's Baker Mayfield's fault. DJ Moore has been underwhelming his entire career. No, he's up 1,200 yards like every year of his career. He's been underwhelming scoring touchdown. And they were, and they were an underwhelming 1100 yards, if we're being honest.
Starting point is 00:33:28 No one's been happy with, oh. You want to, you want to do DJ, more? I don't know. Someone has to pay for this. I think it's Baker. But what about McCaffrey? McCaffrey hasn't been good either. I mean, you know, McCaffrey's been all right. He's had 200-yard games. He's just not scoring. This is the problem with all these teams. Teams just forgot how to score touchdowns. How about we just burn that rule? Well, the Cardinal, or sorry, the Panthers won. I really wish the Panthers had lost this game. They got a defensive touchdown. That's why they won the game. The offense doesn't get credit. They often scored 13 points.
Starting point is 00:33:59 There's been a theme of this year. And I don't know if this is. has been the case every other year, but there's a theme this year of us shitting on a team's offense and then going, well, they did win. Yeah. That's my new favorite.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Yeah, the Panthers get their first one in like three months and we're just like, god, no, it's real. The fucking Bears won today, dude. Like, they score, they, how many,
Starting point is 00:34:19 they had seven completions again or something, like ridiculous. Oh, so the Panthers won. Michael Thomas and Jarvis Lynch got hurt in this game. And the Saints still almost came back. So let's burn.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I think I like Matt Rule. Well, he might get burned in real life, so you want to just burn Baker? I'll burn Baker. We can burn Baker. All right, Baker Mayfield, you're in the burn book. I'm surprised it took this long. It's burned enough bridges. Honestly, I feel like they can just add this to our list.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Wait, so wait, just to make sure, who else? In the burn book, week one, we gave it to Camakers because he literally didn't play in that game. Week two, we gave it to Colquette and Darnell Mooney. Colquette had a catch day, you guys. He even had two. Hell yeah. Doubled it. No, you can't double from, you can't double anything.
Starting point is 00:35:01 from zero. So that's how. So Colcombeck. Did you just say that two was double zero? I caught myself at least. It's late, okay. Oh my God. Okay. I'm another one here, which is, this is a new award. This is the call off the search we found them award. I love this one. This is for Kyle Pitts for the Falcons Stead and Adam Thieland for the Vikings because it reminded me of Breaking Bad when he like goes missing for a week and it's explained it. And he's like, I was in a fugue state. And I'm like, maybe that's what Kyle, an Adam Thieland can say. They just, you know, lost in the desert.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Like, we're back now. It's fine. Don't worry about that. I'm excited about pits, but I'm also still kind of worried about pits. Well, he had like 80 yards at half and then disappeared. Dude, that's because he played literally two-thirds of the snaps. He played 66% of the snaps.
Starting point is 00:35:48 That's not enough. You need to be playing like fucking 90%, man. Dude, Arthur Smith is the worst. I'll point out again that the Falcons won. Arthur Smith is the worst. This is an incredible thing we have going. We basically don't talk about teams that lose. He sat one of his, like, there's like four really good players on this team.
Starting point is 00:36:07 And he sat one of them for like a third of the game. What are you doing? D.K., he's not worried about Kyle Pitts's fantasy team. They did win. I know that they won. He's worried about getting the W. God damn. And he secured it. Is there any world where like, I don't know, the guy who does this is right?
Starting point is 00:36:23 Is there any world where Kyle Pitts? No, I don't know. This one I feel very confidently that he's just being a donkey. I mean, they're one and two, and they beat the C. by four. The Seahawks defense is not good. Like, he should have been playing 90% of snaps. Yeah. At least. I'm glad Adam Phelan's alive. I really was worried that the search crew never find him. He was like the ultimate Bylow, like, about to pop. You know, like, all the, like, metrics about, like, expected fantasy points, stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Adam Thielen, we knew it was coming. So if people stuck with their guns and started him this week at Payneoff. I will never forgive, I submitted him on our Bylow episode of D.K. just didn't rank Adam Thieland. He submitted him. well you guys held me to five each hey the derrick henry one derrick henry baby he's back yeah henry checker cito baby it's it's the power it's like a light like you can just use everything after 10 as an honorary mention like we go to 12 it's all there's no rules man okay well now now i know so just well we've been doing it a long time
Starting point is 00:37:19 well you know what like i forgot so okay it's bit you know i haven't i haven't picked for the for the power rankings for like a year now so Okay, you too. The next award is a new award. It's called the, I'm fine. Are you fine? Because I'm fine. I'm totally fine.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Why do you ask? That goes to Justin Jefferson, who had three catches today for 14 yards. He had three fantasy points. Last week he had 48 yards. You had eight points last week. He obviously had that huge explosive week one and the like, Justin Jefferson 2,000 yards.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Season quotes were flying all around. Like, oh, he's clear. the Cooper Cup's role in Minnesota, Kevin O'Connell. What's his name? Chris O'Donnell out there coaching in Minnesota. What is his name? I've lost track. Kevin O'Connell. Kevin O'Connell's incentive of a woman, Chris O'Donnell, is the head coach of the Vikings. Just kidding.
Starting point is 00:38:21 No, I was going to say, that doesn't sound right. Yeah, man. Jefferson. Like, two... It's frustrating. But, like, people make the arguments, like, you know, that he got shut down by Jeff Okuda today. last week, I think it was Darius Slay, who they say shut him down. Is this concerning? Is it bad?
Starting point is 00:38:39 I mean, Jeff Akuta, who is a third-year guy, he's the third overall pick in the draft in 2020. He tore his Achilles last year. So far this year, I don't know if this stats correct. I saw this from, I think it was CBS tweeted it, that Jeff Akuta this year when he guarded Devante Smith in week one, is zero catches. Terry McLaurin in week two, two catches, and now Justin Jefferson, in week three, three catches?
Starting point is 00:38:59 It's like, is Justin Jefferson just getting blanketed and dominated? What's going on? Cooper Cup roll not coming to fruition? I will say after week one when Justin Jefferson was so incredible and I was just like, wow, I'm so thrilled. I have Justin Jefferson my teams. I do feel now a little bit
Starting point is 00:39:16 like George Bush with the Mission Accomplished banner behind him. Like, all right, guys, they're done. Solid as a rock. We're just like exponentially adding a rest of development lines to the show. I'm looking at his game
Starting point is 00:39:36 log from last year. I feel like we shouldn't. We probably shouldn't freak out too much. Every player, except for maybe Cooper Cup, has like a couple of bad games a year. You know, like I'm looking at,
Starting point is 00:39:46 I'm looking at Jefferson's game log from last year. He had one, two catch, 21-yard game. He had, let's see, he had a three-catch,
Starting point is 00:39:55 69-yard game. He had a couple off games. Like, obviously, nothing, like, really, really bad. I feel like this is how addicts speak to each other. I don't know. I'm just saying, like, you can't really,
Starting point is 00:40:08 you can't expect the guy to go off every week. No, I think the real answer is that Kirk Cousins has been fucking infuriating. I know that the Vikings, again, the Vikings won today. To be clear, the Vikings won the game. We were legally obligated to say that. But, like, also, I looked at the, I'm looking at his 2021 DK. That game, he had 69 yards. He had a touchdown in that game.
Starting point is 00:40:31 He had 47-year-old. You know, touch that. Oh, my God. All right. Enough with the, yeah, yeah, box scores. But like, should I do the Ryan Rusillo? Like, I actually watched the game. I can't do a Rissol impersonation.
Starting point is 00:40:41 But no one can go that deep. No. More ways than one, no. But, what are you going to say? He looked better? No. Kirk Cous, yeah. Well, yeah, kind of.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I mean, I think Kirk Cousness just missed him a couple times. It's kind of like a Jamar Chase. Like, if you watch it Jamar Chase this season, like, he just went out the one a few times. Justin Jefferson, I think that he's so frustrated. that it feels in some ways like a repeat of what was late remember stephan diggs before we got traded he just was like furious with kirk cousins i kind of was starting to get the body language from jesus he's like mad the last two weeks and i feel like there's going to be a behind the scenes talking to
Starting point is 00:41:17 i like drama i like this well yeah i mean it's not like he for lack of trying i mean kirk's throwing him a tonne you know he had 11 targets 12 targets i guess he only had six today but he missed Kirk just missed. It's okay. I'm a little nervous. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm fine. It's fine. I'm fine. Speaking of like, I'm fine, it's fine. Everything's fine. Allvin Camara. The difference is, Justin Jefferson is unquestionably, like, excellent and unbelievable and top five at his position.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Alvin Camara, I mean, is he just the single biggest whiff of the season this far? Oh, I mean, yeah, like it's concerning the amount of points he scored. I'm looking at his stat lines, though. Like, he had 15 carries and seven targets. That's solid. Like, that's not alarming. The underlying usage numbers, like, if you want to talk about how Justin Jefferson, you shouldn't be worried.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Oh, Craig, I remember. You know what? The Craig I knew never fucking used that sentence once in his life. The underlying usage numbers. Alvin Camara is the 55th high-skirts running back. Like, 50th. If you drafted Alvin'amara in the second round or whatever, he is literally 55th among running backs.
Starting point is 00:42:26 He's behind Brandon fucking Bolden. That's tough. who is famously, like the third string running back. Brandon Bolden has more points than Alvin Camara. Yeah, he does. God damn. And he got to get it. He missed the game.
Starting point is 00:42:37 But also, Alvin Camara is behind Zander Horvath, who is like the fullback for the charts. That's how made up name. So I'm just saying, God, like, I'm not ideal. Not ideal. We'll improve from here, obviously. He's not worse than Zander Horvath. The problem is we're having this conversation.
Starting point is 00:42:57 The fact you had to bring up Xander Horvath is concerning. That's true. Oh, God. Yeah. The Saints aren't working out like we'd hoped. No, it's probably because their quarterback has four fractures in his back. That matters.
Starting point is 00:43:13 How about a silver lining? How about a silver lining for the Saints? Is that how they fix the back? Real yards. Real yards are more fun than Air Yards Award is going to Chris Olave this week. He had some real yards this week. If you remember last week, he had like 300, 300 plus, it was 320 or something like that.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Air yards, which is most of the NFL, maybe by double of anybody else last year. They were just hucking it downfield to him over and over again. He just didn't really turn it into production. This week, he did. Nine catches, 147 yards on 13 targets. And if you go back to
Starting point is 00:43:45 the last two games, like it's pretty clear that Olavé is becoming sort of, if not the number one, like the 1A or 1B of the offense along with Michael Thomas. And Michael Thomas got hurt today. And so that could be... And Jarvis, Jarvis Landry is injured as well. Jarvis got a high ankle sprained, right?
Starting point is 00:44:01 It was an ankle injury, and then Michael Thomas had a foot injury, which is concerning because he obviously missed a ton of time with a foot injury. So maybe Crystal Lave is now the number one guy in this offense. In the last two games, he's second on the team in targets. He has nearly doubled the amount of air yards. Sorry, that might be second in the NFL in targets. He is. I was going to say... Second in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Not second on the team. Second in the NFL. He's averaging 13 targets over his last two games per game. Yeah. He has a 33% target rate over the last two weeks. So he is really showing up. And like his skill sets meshing pretty well with James Winston. Obviously this week, they connected a lot more than they did last week.
Starting point is 00:44:40 So rookies, man, they're doing well. I mean, especially with the Saints big picture, like at the end of the day, Michael Thomas, whether they're fine or not. And again, I don't know if Jarvis Sanja has the high ankle, it might just be ankle, which is completely different than a regular increase sprint. But Jarvis, Michael Thomas, guys who've had injuries coming back, getting her, Calvin Camara, older for a running back, has an injury. Alvin Camaro's backup, Mark Ingram, like, older for running back.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Chris Olavi is like the youngest person of any skill on this team by like so much it's unbelievable. And he looks really good. He just like immediately looks like an NFL player. He looks really, really smooth. But the unspoken thing. The perception around Chris Oliva that nobody wants to say, DK. Be bolder than everyone else.
Starting point is 00:45:24 That he's soft? Yeah. No one likes to say. Well, that showed up. last week when he had like 300 something air yards and only caught a few passes. That means he's soft. I mean, he got bullied off a few routes, I'd say. Wow.
Starting point is 00:45:36 He did, I think he drew, he drew like a pass interference deep down the field, too. I mean, this was the perception before the season. You call him a snowflake? This is the perception among people who watch tape, but no one wants to go out on the record and say Chrysalavi softs because there's no upside. And if Crystal Lave discovers you said that and blows you up, you'll deal with it forever. that there's no upside. I mean, he didn't look soft today. It's like me saying C.D. Lamb is too skinny. It's just no upside in saying that. I'm saying it.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Luckily, we're at the right middle ground where C.D. Lamb will never find out. Who knows? Also, he is skinny. That's the other thing. Someone's going to tag you in a tweet and send it to him. Here's the difference. Cid Lamb is skinny. We can say that to Cediam. I'm worried for him. Cedil Lamb knows. It's not that skinny. I'll say it again. If Cedie Lamb had a Jewish great. mother, she would just say, you need some skin on the bones. Anyway, Crystal Lave's good.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I want to do a Tyler Conklin victory lap. Oh, damn. Hyphitz inexplicably decided to freak out when I brought up Tyler Conklin as a potential ad at tight end position. And for all the folks at home, that was like a five-minute argument about Tyler Conklin, but it was actually like 12 and I cut it down because we kept going for so long. Heifitz just decided he's going to die on the tail for no fucking. reason whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:46:58 That's the story of Hivis' memoir. It's titled Dying on the Hill for no fucking reason. The irony of the whole thing was actually like Tyler Conklin. What made me mad is that D.K. And he does this twice in a row, two years in a row. He recommended four different Jets pass catchers in the same episode. And I'm like, that's not okay. This guy Flackel throws the ball a hundred times a game, dude.
Starting point is 00:47:20 There's volume to be had there. You said four different Jets players were worth adding. And I'm like, that's not how that works. Well, I get it. Garrett Wilson and Tyler Conklin were very much worth adding. All he was saying was one of them's got a pop. One of them needs to emerge. Or two of them.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Or two, perhaps. Okay, here's the deal, High Fitz. Tyler Conklin does matter, in fact, even though you decided to die on that hill. He is third among all tight ends and targets. Second in receptions. He has run the most routes among all tight ends. He has five plus targets in every game. He is currently the tight end four and half PPR.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Only Mark Andrews. Travis Kelsey and Zacherts have outscored Tyler Conklin. Suck it. That's actually shocking. He's the Titan 4. Yeah, you should add Tyler Conklin. I think he's right. Which I had recommended Corey Davis immediately beforehand,
Starting point is 00:48:10 or I wouldn't have been so angry about it. Well, okay. Corey Davis scored a touchdown the next game. You're right. We should add Tyler Conklin. I'm well aware. I should add Tyler Conklin. Do you guys feel any differently now that Zach Wilson might be starting next week?
Starting point is 00:48:25 Yes. Oh, yeah. Not everyone. Tyler Conklin The window's over No, Tyler Cochlin's back. Nothing Zach Wilson's back. You're going to add Tyler Conklin, he'll immediately be terrible.
Starting point is 00:48:37 How did we miss the pun of when D.K. was extolling Tyler Conklin to Tyler Bonklin? We really should have done that. Yeah, that's a good point. All right. I didn't know what category to give this, but I just wanted to talk about like six different things that happened in the Bill's Dolphins game
Starting point is 00:48:56 that I feel like I was worried would be lost to the sands of time if we didn't mention. It was a wild game. Yeah. So, first of all, I'll go in reverse order. The video of the Bill's offensive coordinator, Ken Dorsey, just smashing his shit. What was your first react? Like, I don't care of your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:49:16 I don't care about the game. When you watch that, was your first reaction as a person. That was funny. I get it. Yeah. It was relatable, honestly. Like if I remember growing up, if I lost that like a video game, I would like throw the controller. We need to normalize rage quitting.
Starting point is 00:49:34 That was exactly my thought. I was like, wow, it's kind of comforting to know that like men of any age can just toss the monopoly board off the table. Just wipe it all off right before you lose. The nice part about being super rich is like you can just break shit. Like Tom Brady broke two of those surface tablets last week and just there's no repercussions. The team's just going to buy more. Well, he couldn't figure out how to use it. He's too old.
Starting point is 00:49:56 He didn't get it. He got mad. If I had the option of just breaking stuff, like, if I got mad at my phone, if I was, like, really rich, I don't have to worry about, like, the pain in the ass it would be to go buy a new phone because the team will just do it for me. I would throw my phone out a lot of windows. You just play hockey with it every day for fun? I would just, like, break the shit out of that thing.
Starting point is 00:50:16 It's kind of like when you go out and you get, like, there are pennies, and you're like, I don't even need these, but that's Tom Brady and, like, Microsoft Surfaces, just throwing them away. Yeah. I would devise new ways to destroy things. I've thought about this many times. If I was like the richest man on earth, you know what I would it was just like an absolutely wasteful expense, but I would never wear
Starting point is 00:50:33 a pair of socks twice. You know, you know what Floyd Mayweather is? Floyd Mayweather does not wear underwear again. Oh, underwear. Ploid Mayweather only wears new underwear. Honestly, one of the best profiles I've ever, I think it's Tim Kian, ESB in the MAG, the Floyd Mayweather, the last great
Starting point is 00:50:53 prize fighter. There's like 45 details in there that are insane, one of which is he color codes his cars with his houses so he knows what city's in when he wakes up in the morning. It's like Vegas is all black. Miami's all white, and he wakes up but he's like, I don't know what city is. I'm going to look out. He's like, oh, my white Ferrari. Okay, I must be in Miami.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Oh, my God. Didn't Michael Jordan wear a new pair of shoes every game? See, that doesn't make sense to me because like you want the shoes to be kind of worn in and fitted your feet. I would like not do that. That seems terrible. Your feet would be a terrible shape. I think underwear on the first wear is not the best experience.
Starting point is 00:51:25 You want a couple in. You want the fabric to, you know, loosen up just to touch. You don't want it too new. Sox, I'm completely the other way around. Sox, a fresh new pair of socks. It only goes downhill. Noted.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Noted. So anyway, the Bill's Dolphins game. Yeah. The Dolphins won. The other thing I wanted to note was the players just spayed out in 100 degree heat at the end of the game. Look, I can't remember being so
Starting point is 00:51:53 concerned for a group of players. is writ large. Like obviously football, violent, concerning game, many moments where you're worried about a player's health. I have never remembered being so worried for so many people. They looked so like, I was like, this game, if it was high school, they would have been like canceled this game. It was like dangerous. Dude, and people were freaking out in the Tampa Bay game, too. Like, uh, Florida, maybe we should ban games in Florida. Or you could just take away the word games. You could just ban Florida. Just kind of a general Florida ban. Yeah. Universal ban on Florida.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Yeah, bans are in vogue. There were so many, I've never seen the game with more people leaving because of cramps than in this game. No. It was like 100 degrees. It was, I mean, also like Isaiah McKenzie, so the bills grew up the end of the game. And I mean, also, the reason Ken Dorsey was throwing is freaking out. If you haven't seen the video, you've got to look it up. But Ken Dorsey is freaking out because Josh Allen, bizarre play.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I mean, the end of the first half he tried to. do a spike and drop the ball and like through it. And then the end of the game, he kind of does the same thing and throws his James and he doesn't go to bounds. He skipped it to him. Yeah. And just the whole thing was bizarre. And then what was crazy was Isaiah McKenzie drops to the ground and he sometimes got,
Starting point is 00:53:11 he like couldn't get up like four different players in the field were like, thank God this is over. I can't go on. Gabe Davis looked like he wanted to like be transported to another dimension. Yeah, it looked bad, man. Also, butt punt. Just wanted to like discuss this. Butt punt.
Starting point is 00:53:29 But punt. There's an incredible photo of this. If you Google like butt punt USA Today, shout out to the photographer who got this. It's like this guy, Jason Vinloff, this guy should win a freaking Pulitzer. Who's the person that got punted in the ass here? Who's this guy that's past protecting or whatever?
Starting point is 00:53:47 Let me look at up. Dolphins number, is that 14? Yeah, I think so. Trent Sherfield. Oh, okay. the former 49ers wide receiver that's got to sting a little or a lot.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Do you think that Trent Sherfield knows yet that this will define his career or is he going to find that out later? I don't think this is this isn't, that's not very embarrassing for Trent Sherfield. It's just like a funny play.
Starting point is 00:54:12 He's a professional athlete and most people will just the rest of his life be like, you're the guy who got kicked in the butt. Like yeah, that's embarrassing. This challenge is the saying is any publicity, good publicity.
Starting point is 00:54:25 know. That's a saying about like, like brand awareness, not like ego. Like someone's personal ego, definitely bad PR. Maybe he could turn this into a brand deal. Dude, Mark Sanchez, he did the butt fumble. He's calling games today, making millions of dollars calling games. Like, he'll be fine. I don't know if that was because of the butt fumble. No, I'm saying he's going to survive this.
Starting point is 00:54:47 It's not going to kill him. He'll be fine. He'll be fucking fine. Mark Sanchez was very famous. All right, let's move on. Anyway. I love doing this every week. The best play that nobody saw because it was called back,
Starting point is 00:55:01 T. Higgins had a ridiculous touchdown in the end zone. And it wasn't called back. He was just barely out of bounds. Yeah. But, man, T. Higgins would be like the number one wide receiver on 26 NFL teams if it weren't for it. He's really good and constantly overshadowed. Including the Packers who did not take him.
Starting point is 00:55:16 For a visual, like he leaped up in the back of the end zone, pirouetted, caught the ball, and toe-tied. both of his feet down at the same time, and it looked from a couple different angles, like he just only touched his toes. Like, he basically did, like, a ballerina toe touch, and then fell out of bounds. But then there was one angle
Starting point is 00:55:36 where you could kind of see his heel came down out of bounds, and they, like, so they wouldn't overturn it. But it was so close. While we're spending so much time in Tehiggins, though I'd be remiss, he just should not have returned to this game because he already had a concussion after, like, week one. Speaking of that, how did we pass over the Dolphins game, Tua?
Starting point is 00:55:53 Yeah, what was that? that that was very bizarre so this is delicate so why is it delicate well so basically they're saying that to it obviously so toa like you know got didn't even look that bad like he got knocked over and he like hit his head against the back of the field gets up stumbles falls concussion spotters like get him out they check him he returns the game and the and now the nflPA is investigating why did he return the official line is that he already had a back injury and his back locked up on that Which is interesting. I've had my back lock up before.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Not that I'm like in the same world as Tua is, but like that's not what happens when your backlocked up. He didn't put his hand on his back. He was shaking his head back and forth, trying to like, you know, shake off the blurry vision. He was concussed. His linemen had to hold him up. Like if it's not that, they're explicitly lying.
Starting point is 00:56:44 And so I, look, I don't know because I think that the only reason I'm not willing to say that they just lied is that I think generally speaking, this is always important to remember. We have no fucking idea. what's going on with these guys' bodies. Like football is intensely violent. And you really don't find out, like, the majority of things that you're dealing with in a given season.
Starting point is 00:57:02 So I'm just not willing to be like, well, Tua's back is fine. Like, I don't know if two is back is fine. Maybe it did. I don't know. I mean, it certainly looks suspect enough for the NFLPA to launch an investigation. That's the thing. The NFLP is investigating it. You don't know if I didn't hear that.
Starting point is 00:57:17 That's not super common. Is it? No. No. No, that is extremely uncommon. So I should tell you something, perhaps. Anyway, before we get out of here, we're doing this new segment on Sunday nights
Starting point is 00:57:29 where we read a list of stat lines from today that we don't understand and thus will not respond to. I have the Ike and Tina Tuna. Plater platter. I don't understand the question, and I won't respond to it. Here we go. Devante Parker had 156 receiving yards today.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Mack Hollins is the leading wide receiver on the Raiders on a team with Devante Adams, Darren, Hunterrento after three weeks. Oh, God. The three leading receivers on the Panthers today were Leviska-Shanalt, Shee Smith, and Giovanni Ricci. Shy Smith. Bullshit.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Bullshit. Jiavani what? Giovanni Ritchie, remember he was in Saving Private Ryan? Is he a fullback? He was good in that. He reminds me like Giovati. Oh, my God. Dude.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Imagine if Giovanni Rubisi was in the NFL. Giovanni Ritchie sounds like when I get a soccer update once every six months, and it's like, oh, my God. this guy's getting transferred to Barcelona. I'm like, oh my God, is he good? Yeah, so today we've had Giovanni Ribisi and Andrea Bichelli. Both have strong starts. Big day for the Italians.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Both out to teaching more Giovanni and G. Andre Bichickin. Continuing here, Chris Moore led the Texans in receiving yards today. In the Lions and Vikings game, the two leading receivers on either team were Josh Reynolds and K.J. Osborne. And the leading wide receiver on the Rams with Cooper Cup. And Alan Robinson was Ben Scoronic. You know what I love about the Ben Scoronix stat line is like, he's their part-time fullback. He literally gets like eight to ten snaps at fullback every game.
Starting point is 00:59:06 He's like. He's the Rams energy vampire. Ben Scoronix's the energy vampire in the Rams. He's the one that when they walk in, everyone's like, oh. I'm going to add a few things, notable things that we're acknowledging, acknowledging but not elaborating on. And I didn't make the, I didn't really get very far through this list, but here's a few. Markis Brown had 17 targets.
Starting point is 00:59:23 targets today. 14 catches. Greg Dorch. Dorched. Is currently the wide receiver 18 in PPR through three weeks. Greg fucking Dorch. Why is it?
Starting point is 00:59:35 Dki, I feel like your fantasy name should just be all caps, dorched. Dorched. I might change it, yeah. Devin Singletary of all people
Starting point is 00:59:44 had nine catches today. Didn't see that coming. Gabe Davis, meanwhile, had 80, he played 86 snaps in the 100 degree heat. after being like injured all this guy after being injured oh yeah if you watch this game game dave at the
Starting point is 01:00:00 end they were targeting him i i i watch it football a long time i mean this i don't know if i have ever seen a player so tired as i saw game dave yeah i mean i believe it there was a moment too one of their offensive line one of the bills offensive linemen went down for a minute and he was like on his knees and the training staff was around him i was like legit worried his his face was the reddest I've seen anyone's face before. It was scary. Dude, also, the thing you remember that's honestly very easy to forget is when these guys get hurt and they miss like a week, they're not training.
Starting point is 01:00:33 And when you're at this level of athleticism and you're not like running and you can't like run full speed and like do these drills, like your cardio does dip at the level you need to like play a full NFL game. And so sometimes it's a little easy to get winded coming up from injury. The fact that Gabe Dave came back from an ankle injury and played 86 snaps on this freaking game is kind of insane. Yeah. I mean, the fact that there was even 86 snaps. I mean, the dolphins won this game and they only
Starting point is 01:00:59 ran 39 plays. It was like... Thirty-nine plays is not very many at all. Josh Allen had 60 past attempts or whatever in a game where the dolphins had 30... 63 attempts. Bills had 90 plays and lost. I mean, the dolphins, like, the all-time, like, stay out of the heat and will still win the game award. Good for them. Did you see that during the game, it was talking about how the Dolphins Stadium was designed around the
Starting point is 01:01:23 track of the sun during the day. And so like at 1 p.m. Local time, when the game started or whatever, the sun is just beating down on the opposing bench. And they are in the shade. Wow, that is diabolical. I'm pretty sure I saw that about this game because it was like 100 and something degrees on the field.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Wow. So that was actually a part of the stadium planning. That's like what they want to do at Jerry World. Someone like at me on Twitter if I'm mixing up the stadiums. But I think I heard that about this game. I feel like that's what they wanted to do at Jerry World. And then Jerry forgot that sometimes the sun would just hit like the cowboys in the eyes and he just never thought. Well, this is like, okay, I actually appreciate what they did with Hard Rock Stadium because like half the stadiums in the NFL, it's like the sun is shining through the back of the end zone and blinding everyone on the field for half the game. Like can you get some curtains or something?
Starting point is 01:02:11 This is ridiculous. It's like the stadium in Indianapolis for one, the stadium in Houston. They both have like big windows and everyone on the field is like blinded for half the game. game. I'll never forget last year when there was a Monday night football game in SoFi Stadium and it was raining. It was like thundering and lightning in LA. Lightning the lightning. And there was a delay. They couldn't start the game because of lightning and it's in a dome. But because there's like these like open, the stadium is like open on the sides, but it's domed on top. And it's like, oh my God. Couldn't you just? Dude, additionally.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Legally, yeah, legally they were like, actually this isn't really. I know we've been saying it's a dome, but like legally we're not. Oh, yeah, by the way, it's not a dome. It's a greenhouse. It's like literally the roof is just windows. And everything inside the stadium is like 30 degrees warmer than it is on the outside. You could grow some really good like tomato plants in there. But it's like 100 degrees in there on a sunny day. Who designed this? Couldn't you just make a dome put AC in?
Starting point is 01:03:09 Just put a goddamn roof on. Seriously. You know what? This is great. You're in Los Angeles. It's hot there. We already talked about how we don't know anything about advertising. And now we can add architecture.
Starting point is 01:03:21 There's just things who have no idea how they wear. They're just not even close to close. Just put a roof on there. A bunch of AC units. If you're an architect, emails at Ringer Fantasy Football. Let us walk around inside the stadium instead of having to walk through the stands, too,
Starting point is 01:03:35 while you're at it. Why are you so passionate about this? It's annoying. It is annoying. Okay, anyway, we're going to go. All right, thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you to everybody for listening
Starting point is 01:03:43 through that. Oh, my God. All right, thank you to, my God. Andre Bechelli, Giovanni, Giovanni, Ibini. Jivani. You beat me to it.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Thank you, Lauren. Thank you, my chemical romance. I cannot believe you did not thank Andre Bechelli, like the singer. We mentioned him like four times already. He had a good game today. He doesn't need to be thanked. He's doing fine. Is he an opera singer?
Starting point is 01:04:09 I don't even know who that is, to be honest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like he's a bigger deal than Stan Gets. I feel like I got a lot of shit for not knowing Stan Gets. I feel like Andrea Bichelli is more famous. Okay, let's do it. the test on Spotify. On, how do you spell it?
Starting point is 01:04:24 Andre. Well, with all love and do respect to Spotify, I think that Andreabicelli's been around for much longer than Spotify has. Oh, I know, but this is a good, this is the way that we're going to test it. Oh, God. Andre Bechelli has like a song with Ed Shearin. That doesn't count. Okay, so the one after that is $104 million.
Starting point is 01:04:43 What's all Stan gets at? Stan gets $133 million. They're very close. Yeah, hi, Fitz. I'm not going to concede that one. I will not get Tyler Conklin again. You're not going to concede the guy who has, how many was it, Craig?
Starting point is 01:04:58 133 million? Yeah. I'm going to toss this to the, again, ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. I have a feeling on Andrea Bichelle. He's going to come out with the W on this one. I would tend to agree. Well, we're not comparing. You're just saying that you shouldn't have known who Stan gets his.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Like he's like some unknown under the radar. I'm not saying that. I'm saying I'm just surprised that you've never heard of Andre Bechelli. That's all I was trying to say. I've heard of him.
Starting point is 01:05:26 I just didn't know exactly who he was. Oh. It sounded familiar and I thought that he was an opera singer. I got it right. I said he's an opera guy, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:37 All right. All right. Great. Have a great Sunday night, everybody. See? I thought of his arguments. It's just, you know, conversation.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Goodbye, everyone. Oh, shit. Contra Pachelius played at Washington. I should have known this. I should really have known that.

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