The Ringer NFL Show - Week 4 Bold Predictions and Our Million-Dollar Lineup

Episode Date: October 2, 2020

We look back on our Week 3 predictions and offer up our gut calls and bold predictions for Week 4 before building our million-dollar daily fantasy lineup. Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Chiefs (14:59) Hunter Renfrow, Raiders (18:37) Will Fuller, Texans (22:14) Terry McLaurin, Washington (27:29) AJ Green, Bengals (30:21) The Los Angeles Rams defense (34:15) Devante Parker, Dolphins (37:49) Dolphins vs. Seahawks (39:57) Million-Dollar Lineup (44:00) Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On today's ringer fantasy football show, we talk about the impending AJ Green explosion, the impending Will Fuller, even bigger explosion of 200 yards, assuming he does not miss the game with a hamstring pole, which, I mean, he's Will Fuller. So who knows? And why the dolphins could beat the Seahawks? Are we serious about this? Yeah. Why the dolphins could change Russell Wilson's nickname from Mr. Unlimited to Mr. Limited.

What do you mean? His nickname's Mr. Unlimited? Who calls him that? He calls him the video. Russell also calls himself Mr. Unlimited. Are you screwing with me? The video he made like right before the season? You're screwing with me.

What? No, on Instagram? He made a video calling himself Mr. Unlimited. Hyphitz, you are more plugged in than anybody I know. Okay, so you haven't seen wedding crashers. You've never been to Coachella and you don't know that Russell Wilson calls himself Mr. Unlimited? No.

Why does he call himself? I don't know. Why does he do anything? He's kind of weird. He made himself Mr. Unlimited. Okay, well, I guess Mr. Limited, it might get limited this week. So we've got that coming and more. So stick around.

Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. I am Danny Hyfitz here with Danny Kelly and Craig Krollbeck. And Craig just declined a call from his mother to record this podcast. How do you know it wasn't important, Craig? To be fair, it was a text. Oh, okay. My family group text is popping off. And I'm like, hey, I'm busy, people.

I'm working. Do not disturb. I'm going to have to share my Google calendar of my first. And mom. By the way, I mute every single one in my group texts. Like literally every single one. Yeah, I do most of them. Yeah, it's the worst when you just have 68 texts and you open and then you're like 66 of them are just someone arguing about a trade that they want vetoed. And then two of them are just, we're actually important. I didn't see any of them. Did you guys see that on Apple? You can now have calls coming from numbers that you don't know go straight to voicemail. Your phone doesn't even ring. Yeah, because they don't know how to deal with spam because the spam has gotten out of control. Now I'm getting spam. text. They're out of AT&T and Verizon is duopoly and now they can't even and then you have

Sprint and T-Mobile running these ads like, oh, answer your call, answer your phone without worrying. And I'm like, wow, I do remember when my phone ring. And I'm like, I wonder if this is a human being. For every one real call I get, I get like 25 fake calls. This is just like a giant thing that's happened this year that's been buried because of the to-do list of this country is just off the charts. Yeah, that's like, basically number 110, but yeah. Nobody has their phone ring anymore and it's like, oh yeah, that's definitely a person. Like that I wish, you know what, let's go back to that. Anyway, my God, that's not fun.

Let's do a fun fact. We got a great email from Mike. Thanks, Mike. Did you guys know that Frank Gore was Jim Thorpe's backup on the Canton Bulldogs before leaving to fight in World War I? World War I. He averaged 2.6 yards per carry and was fine for refusing to wear the leather helmet. Did you see that? It was like Frank Gore is the only player in the NFL.

to, are the only running back in the, starting running back in the NFL who was around before Thursday night football was invented. Oh my God. That's amazing. That's a better fact. Okay, that'll be a real fact. Oh, man. Well, shout out to Frank Gore for, who did we decide was the Frank Gore of the animal kingdom? Sharks.

Sharks. There, so we're on a Frank Gore kick. We really like the expansion of time, don't we? Yeah, can I say that I told a group of friends the other day that sharks were older than trees and like everybody didn't really believe me? And I kind of forgot all the reasons. I kind of just was like, no, I'm pretty sure it's true. And they were like, how is that possible? And I was like, I don't know. I really was doubting it when I read the email. And then I googled it. I was shocked like, no, yeah, it's like 400 million for trees and 350 for, sorry, 450 for sharks, 350 for trees.

I just don't get that. Like, I thought there was plants before animals, but I guess things were swimming around in the ocean before they were crawling around on land. That's what we're talking about a tree. Yeah. Well, there's oceans like the primordial soup of the earth. and they believe that life may have formed outside the heat volcanoes that spew into the ocean, that that is where the microbes there are very resilient. They can basically survive at like 800. Like inside lava, they can like live. And they think that's where Earth might have first had life. And I swear to God, that's actually from like a BBC thing. It's not like something I read on Reddit. Those resilient microbes. I'm excited about Danny's segment, segue here. What are we going to do here? Well, speaking of resiliency, we have some bold calls we're going to get to, some gut calls.

No, you got to say, speaking of resiliency, we're going to bounce back from last week's predictions. Yeah, that would have gotten the ding, wouldn't it? No thing. Craig can get the ding. Last week's predictions could not have survived at the mouth of an underwater volcano. Well, mine certainly. Mine was fine. I had Tyler Lockett as a top five receiver taking advantage of it.

Yeah, that one was correct. That one was correct. That one I dung on. Ding? Is that the past tense of a ding? Dung. Dinged? Dung beetles going in straight lines because they look at the Milky Way.

See? All right, Hivez, hit your gut, gut bold. Yeah, sorry. Lockett was top five receiver. That worked. Kenyon Drake would be a top five running back. That was not true. And then I said,

Chiefs Ravens would be boring. You were kind of right. I did not hit the specific number we put on this of under 45 points, but what do you guys think? I think the game was not as exciting as people thought it would be. Yeah, I think I kind of have to admit that it wasn't as exciting as I hoped. It wasn't all that exciting, period. You know, I was, because I think what would have made it exciting is

if both offenses would have looked awesome and one offense looked bad. So I think you're right. I think spiritually you're correct. Technically you were wrong, but we'll give you like half credit for that one. Okay. I want the half ding.

All right. D.K., you had, we'll take us through your gut calls from last week. Logan Thomas, top six tight end. He did not do that. He was a tight end 28. I will say, however, that there's some very interesting statistics. Just a bit outside.

That one is a good. That would know that that save that one for a little bit later Craig Okay I was talking to the Indians pitcher The Charlie Sheen Indian's pitcher got rocked in real life That was the worst outing of his life yesterday Tried for the corner and missed

No so Logan Thomas is a very interesting No like subject in the tight end like fantasy world Because like right now Based on expected fantasy points and his usage And his routes and his targets And everything that goes along with like His underlying usage he should be like The number two titan fantasy

Yeah, he's just anti-cow. But their offense is just terrible. So they can't get him the ball. Dwayne Haskins is really struggled. It's just, yeah. So I think, like, I would just like to point that out that, like, his usage is really awesome. He's kind of like the AJ Green right now of tight ends. Like, he's getting targeted a million times.

He's just not doing anything with it. So I'm going to say stick with him. Don't drop him quite yet because things could turn around. But at this point, he's probably not, like, a solid starter just because. Well, you can drop him in a 10-te-te-league, right? But in a 12-te league league, sure. Maybe not. Yeah, sure.

My C.D. Lamb, my other gut call with C.D. Lamb outscores all other Dallas skill players. That was Cedric Wilson. We all know. I'll give you half credit for this. The spirit of, yeah, we all know Cedric. The spirit of what you said of like the slot would dominate was correct. It just was the wrong person. If you're going to get the spirit of the game was boring, I'm going to get the spirit of this prediction was correct because the Seahawks,

middle of the field. Essentially, my analysis was the Seahawks give up a shit ton of stuff in the middle of the field. And that's absolutely true. In fact, through three games, I saw this stat today from PFF, Jared Evans. He said, the Seahawks defense versus players lined up in the slot this year, 59 targets most, 41 catches most,

580 yards most, which is 149 yards more than anyone. The analysis was CDLAM lined up in the slot is going to go ham. Instead, it was Cedric Wilson. So I was incorrect on that one. Can we, does anyone know where Cedric Wilson went to college, D.K., do you know?

I do. because I was, Boise State because I was, I literally said who is this guy and a bunch of people, I guess, Boise State fans were mad at me, but Cedric Wilson kind of just went off and C.D. Lamb, he ended up not playing a much, a little bit down the, down the stretch was a little bit strange. I think he kind of got banged up and McCarthy said after the game he'd been like playing too many snaps is like you need to do a little bit of like load maintenance or whatever. So anyway, that's an interesting fact. I don't think that'll be something to like that will carry on.

got to keep that in mind. And then my bold take was spectacularly wrong. This is tough. Now we can drop the just about outside. He actually ended up, so my bold take was Tassum Hill explosion game was coming. I think the technical over under

was 17 fantasy points. He finished with negative fantasy points. Vaughn into the windup in his first offering. Just a bit outside. He tried the corner and missed. So, I mean, not great. Not a great. I wouldn't say that was a great prediction.

I've given up hope and Tayson Hill. I had some legitimate, genuine hope that Tayson Hill would do stuff this year, that he would be like a fun fantasy option. I'm losing that hope quickly. So my biggest concern with Taysom Hill is, yeah, I think everybody kind of wants him to be good, right? But there was a specific play on Sunday night where they ran some, it was like a pass play, maybe like an option to run or something like that. And Chris Collinsworth was like, look at the middle of the field on this play.

Emmanuel Sanders is wide open. This is the easiest read a quarterback can make. That ball should be thrown and completed. Any quarterback can do it. And Taysam Hill didn't even see it and just took off for a five-yard run. And that's pretty scary. I think the interpretation was that the Saints paid Taysam Hill a lot of money. And so they have big plans for him.

And in reality, it's Sean Payton and the Saints tend to be somewhat emotional about letting players leave, as in they don't do it anymore. and they kept him because the thought of letting him leave and letting all the play designs they have for him go just seemed incomprehensible. So they kept him even though it was a ludicrous price, but he is not an NFL quarterback, and he's not going to be an NFL quarterback.

Why did they let Jimmy Graham and Brandon Cooks go then? That doesn't really jive with their previous moves. I think there are regrets. When they signed Malcolm Jenkins, he said it was the biggest mistake I've made as a coach was letting Malcolm Jenkins leave this building. What about Mark Ingram? Let him go.

Well, they had Alvin Camara. That one seems fine. But regardless, like the Taysam Hill thing, it's just not happening at this point. I wonder if he's just really good in practice. Stop trying to make Fetch a thing. That's basically the game here. I'm going to stop trying to make Taysam Hill a thing officially. So I'm done with that.

Let's move on. Craig, your last week, you went. Take us through it. One of my gut calls is that Alan Robinson gets back on track and scores 20 fantasy points or more. And he did. He scored 20 fantasy points or more. 3.3. Nice. And it was pretty split. He scored his touchdowns with Foles, but he was having a good game with Trubisky. My second got called, not so much. Josh Kelly would be a top 15 back

and outscore Austin Echler on the Chargers. That was wrong. Austin Echler was a top five back and Josh Kelly was a top 50 back. And by that, I mean he was the 50th scoring running back. What's the lesson here, Craig? Is it game script? Game script matters a lot with Kelly? But I don't know. The Chiefs, I just got so, I got so bamboozled by the Chiefs game. I know the game was close, so maybe they gave the ball to Kelly more, but I just felt like they were so invested in him because of how many touches they gave him against the Chiefs. Kelly only thrives when there's a pregame stabbing.

At one point, at one point in the second quarter, right before the half, basically. The Panthers went up 18 to 7. So they played the entire, most of the first half, the entirety of the second half, from behind. And I think that's a big reason that Echler was way more involved. I think if you're, if you see in the Chargers leading a game, like they were for a large part of the time against the Chiefs, that's where Kelly gets in and, you know, really makes his mark. So keep that in mind. The game script, you know, is the first part about that is when you have a rookie quarterback, it's going to be hard to be predictable about when they're going to have leads. Yeah. And like Craig

said, he did fumble. So. And Echler is just like fully back on track. I mean, the guy had 11 catches last week. And then my bold prediction is right on par with, with, DKs. Drew Sample, who I introduced to fantasy audiences last week, I predicted he would be a top seven tight end this week. He was not. He had one catch for one yard. So literally a small sample?

I love it. Small sample size. He played a shit ton. He just blocked the whole time because he's a good blocker. But he also, apparently he ran a bunch of routes and it just didn't work out. I'm not giving up. I wouldn't start sample this week, but I'm not giving up on him. I'm giving up on him. I'll give up on him. I'll give up on him for both of us. That's fair. High Fitz.

It seemed to be T. Higgins is the guy who took off for Cincinnati Not True Sample. Higgins kind of looks like a tight end. I know he's not like that heavy, but for whatever reason, every time I see him, I'm like he's number 85. Receivers don't wear 85 anymore, hardly ever. It's like always numbers in the did. It's just him and C.D. Lamb brought back the 80s. I love that, by the way. Can you actually name, I blew it with C.D. Lamb. Can you name the other prominent receiver who wears a number in the 80s? Prominent rookie or prominent player? Other player in the NFL. Tyler Boyd is like the only other one with like an 80s number. What? He's the only one. Tyler Boyd. C. Lam.

Yeah. Roger Sherman did an article about this last year, I believe. Like all receivers. Oh, yeah, Jarvis Landry does too. That's basically it. That is the list of good receivers who wear a number eight. Wow, that's crazy. The best receiver was number 80 in the NFL is probably Tyler Boyd. Yeah. So I love T. Higgins coming out. He was one of my favorite rookie prospects. And when I saw him on the field and whatever it was a couple of weeks ago, I was like, who is this? Like, who's Higgins? I don't know who this Higgins person is. Because he was in the 80, he's number 85. I was like, who is this tight end? I don't know who this guy is. And I was like, oh, shit, that's T. Higgins. It's like I was not expecting it. I associate T. Higgins and Josh Kelly together because they wore the same college colors as they do in the NFL because T. E. Higgins went from Clemson to the Bengals and Josh Clay went from UC. you later, the Chargers. So I just think of it as like, imagine being T. Higgins and just orange will define your entire life. I don't know how I feel about that. It doesn't have to throw away all his sweats. Yeah, that's cool. Hey, we went from the ringer to Spotify, green, green. There you go. Yeah, we know. It's nice. It's nice to keep the color scheme. Okay, so that was how we did

last week. Let's get into the gut calls for bold predictions for this week. Guck, gut, bold. D.K., give us a gut call for this week. Summon your inner connection to the Earth's electromagnetic field. Yeah. I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it. This week. I'm feeling that Clyde Edwards-Hillair explosion game finally coming. I mean, obviously he's been good throughout his first three games, but maybe not like top seven, top six good like we thought he'd be. Right now, he's currently the running back 13 and half ppm. So I'm calling a very good like explosion game. So I'll define that by top five among which running backs this week. and he's going up against the Patriots

who have, as you guys know, pretty solid secondary in terms of their cornerbacks, very good cornerbacks. I think, you know, going up against the Chiefs, Belichick typically will take away a team's best player

or best, like, most dangerous target. I think that's probably going to be Tyreek Hill. I mean, I guess, let me ask you guys, who do you take up away? Like, probably Kelsey and Tyreek is like the number one priorities, right? I think you would try and take away

the middle of the field and Travis Kelsey. I would take away, Byron Pringle. That's the number one option. No, but if you're talking about Kelsey or Hill, who do you think? So would you bench one of those people? It's not C.E.H. I wouldn't bench any of them because it's the Chiefs and because it's, you know,

Patrick Mahomes and we saw what he did against Ravens. Just don't bench him. But I'm saying, like, I can see the Patriots either focusing heavily in on Hill or Kelsey and trying to take that guy away. And I think that opens up an opportunity for, you know, him to be a bigger part of the passing game, maybe have

even like a vertical route in this game and catch a touchdown on a vertical route. So, yeah, I'm calling, you know, the Patriots have actually been pretty good so far this year against running backs, but they're sort of middle of the pack, I think, or top third. But, yeah, I think overall just,

we're finally going to get to see kind of that, like, explosion game that we were hoping for from CEH. He's really started to take off, especially from a receiving perspective. There's kind of like, he's kind of becoming the Julio Jones of running backs when he gets into the red zone where he just, like, can't punch it in from within 10. I think he's like the only guy with like over a certain amount of carries inside the five that he hasn't scored.

But he had a ton of targets and catches last week. He also had like a really nice like Hank Aaron kind of catch. If you. Oh, really? Remember that? He looks really good. I think this is a great pick. And just to show what how good the Patriots are at stopping people.

I mean, Darren Waller was getting like 35 catches a game and then against the Patriots. Like one. Yes, but not the Chiefs and not Andy Reid. One of my favorite stats in this little mini rivalry they have. Not midi. I mean, I guess this is the two best. coaches in the 21st century. Bill Belichick's defenses have only given up 40 points like seven times and Andy Reid's been three of the seven. Yes, that's a great point. You know, like it's always like

these crazy, like, I remember a couple years there was, Chiefs drop 30 on him all the time. Chiefs blowout and we started talking about Tom Brady getting benched. Do you remember that? That was a few. That was six years ago to the week. That was week four 2014. That was the on to Cincinnati or 2013. I don't remember. It was the onto Cincinnati game and then they went and they won the Super Bowl. So, yeah, yeah. Also, I just like to correct everybody. I said Hank Aaron catch. I met Willie May's catch.

Oh, right. None of you caught me. So clearly you guys are locked in. I was wondering, did Hank Aaron also have a different catch that I was thinking like, he means Willie Mays? I'm like, maybe Hank Aaron had a catch, but I was just thinking about him running around the bases. I'm like, maybe I just don't know enough about Hank Aaron's career.

Thank you for the transparency because you could have just edited that out and then done like really clunky. Well, you know how I actually thought about it. I was like, I was in the middle of a long sentence by me. I don't know if I would have been able to cut that out. So I just got to swallow. swallow it. It's just like a really loud

Willie Mays. Willie Mays. Cough. Willie Mays. Okay, so D.K., you're saying C.E.H. Top 5 running back.

I like it. Craig, you had a gut call for this this week. I mean, you better because that's the premise of the episode. Yeah.

I think this is kind of falls in the start set realm for week four. I think Hunter Renfro is going to be a top 20 wide receiver this week versus the bills. Renfro. Nice.

Yeah. Gruden's guy. Gruden's grinder. Hunter Renfro. Worst hairline in the league. Buffalo has been really bad against slot guys. Every game of the year, James and Crowder over 100. Isaiah Ford, who no one knows, over 75.

Cooper Cup, over 100 in a touchdown. And the Raiders are super banged up. Brian Edwards is not going to play. It doesn't look like Ruggs is going to play. So they're left with Agalore, Waller, and Renfro. And if Treydavius White takes Agalore, Renfro is just going to dominate out of the slot. And I think this will be a high-scoring game.

And Renfra had a huge week last week. I like this one. D.K., what do you make of the Raiders offense? Because I'm confused. The line of this game opened at like two and a half. And I was just confused about it because the bills are one of the three or four best passing offenses so far.

We've talked about how good Josh Allen is. The Raiders suck in pass coverage. The Raiders suck and pass rush. They just lost one of their top cornerbacks. The Giants signed another one of their cornerbacks off the practice squad. And the line is three points. It doesn't make any sense.

I'm doing my bets for the week. I was heavily, I was like, why am I not betting the bills? The bills are better in every way. They have a better quarterback. They have a better coach. They have a better defense. Yeah, this wasn't one of my gut calls for the week, but I really, I do have a gut feeling that just the bills on paper at least seem like they're going to wipe the Raiders defensively.

And I was thinking like Diggs is going to have a big week. So Cole Beasley. It's funny that you mentioned the Bills, the Raiders slocker, I guess. I was thinking about putting Cole Beasley out there. And I do think that I like the bills this week. If you're saying it's a shootout for people who need someone, like if you have the, Steve. Titans Unexpected by

and you didn't miss the first week of waivers. Cole Beasley is like a desperation person you can like plug and play if you really have to.

Especially if John Brown doesn't play. Yeah. Beasley's quietly been pretty good. I'm telling you, man. Uncle Cole. Uncle Cole.

Cool uncle. So, Hyfitz, to answer your question, Vegas, I think their offense has been better than people

think it is. Or the perception of Derek Carr is what it is and it's not good. But right now, they're number nine in offensive DVA through three weeks. You know, they beat, they just beat the Saints.

Now, we don't, the Saints are probably not as good as everyone thought they would be before the season, but I don't know. I think that's why, I think that's why this line is so close. Okay, so would you rather plug and play Hunter Renfro or Cole Beasley? Who's gut do you like better?

Mine or Craigs? I would rather play Beasley. But I think they're both very interesting calls because, I mean, they're like, I saw Hunter Renfro at the combine, and, I mean, he does not look like an NFL player. He's just like the embodiment of like a gritty slot receiver. He is a grud and grinned grinder. He's very skilled. He's very quick.

He and Cole Beasley are very similar, actually. He's very quick. He can change directions on a dime. He's very technically skilled as a route runner as a, like he catches the ball. Like, I don't know. He's one of those guys. Everyone forever is going to make fun of what he looks like, because he just looks like this skinny white dude.

It's like, how is this guy in the NFL? But he's technically sound and he's a good player. Yeah, he's on the team because I think John Gruden watched it. It was like, this is the Gruden grinder, man. Dude, he played. He like got a lot of playing time on Friken Clemson's offense. Like, he's good, man. Okay, so that's my unofficial gut for the week.

I just think that Colby's is going to be solid in the bills will. But my official one, Will Fuller Bounceback game. This is it. This is it, everyone. It's happening. It's happening this week. The Texans just played the three hardest teams on the schedule, possibly the three best teams in the NFL in the Chiefs,

the Steelers, and the Ravens, or at least three of the best in the AFC at the worst case. Those are three really good defenses. Now they get in the Vikings who have been a great defense for years. This year they suck. They let their top three cornerbacks go from last season. This season, they already have their top two cornerbacks are injured. So they're down there, basically their top five cornerbacks from last year.

That leaves them with Holton Hill and Jeff Gladney. do you know how they've been playing so far this season? There are 109 cornerbacks eligible to be graded on pro football focus. 109. Jeff Gladney is 93rd and Holton Hill is 104th in PFF grades.

That's who they got. And in the slot, they have Chris Boyd who would rank, if he was not eligible, if he were, he would rank 94th. And he kind of has a hamstring injury too.

He might not play. The Vikings cornerback. So for those counting at home, that is they are down six cornerbacks of their top eight. And the two who are left are among the worst 15 cornerbacks in the entire sport. If you go four cornerbacks deep. That is not what you want. It is what the Texans want.

So I think that this is everything. This is the game. And also they don't have a pass rush. So I think Deshaun Watson is going to have time. I think that this is everything that we've been waiting for from the Texans will happen this week, starting with Will Fuller. But also, if you're wondering about Brandon Cooks, if you're wondering if you need to play them and you feel burned, I would throw cooks in. but Will Fuller is the guy specifically. I think it's the best game of his season.

I think he tops himself in yards, fantasy points, and has a touchdown this week. So what's the number? Yeah, what's the match? So he had 112 in week one. So he has 113 plus in week four and a touchdown. 113 yards and a TD? Yes.

Okay. So can I move that? Can I go to my bold prediction because it's directly related to this? Oh, you know, you're going to be, like Will Fuller, zero catches, zero targets? No, my bold prediction is that Will Fuller has over. 200 yards receiving. Nice.

200. That is bold. That's bold. He's done it before. I think he could do it again. The Vikings give up the second highest yards per attempt to perimeter wide receivers, which is what Will Fuller is. Everything hyphid said.

200. Man. Who else do you guys like on Houston this week? DK., D.H. Do you like David Johnson as a play? Do you like Jordan Akins if people had maybe Johnny Smith or Eric Ebron on their team? I think both of those are solid. The other guy who has actually been more involved than I expected is Randall Cobb.

He's kind of their slot guy. Led them in receiving last week and I believe in fantasy points too. So those are definitely like good, if you need backup options this week because of the crazy schedule because that Titans Steelers game is getting postponed. Yeah, look at the Texans. I think Aiken's has quietly been pretty solid. He didn't have a big game last week,

but he's been running a ton of routes, getting a lot of targets, like the things that you want to look for at the tight-end position, he's been having those. And yeah, I like David Johnson. I mean,

he got like 97% of like the running back work last week. Your preseason prediction, how like Bill O'Brien is going to make David Johnson a fan, like a factor. He will make fetch a thing. Like his like, like his job to like relies on it or depends on it is actually coming So, yeah, David Johnson's solid play this week.

Who's your guys favorite pick for, if you take the first three weeks of the Texans offense and throw out in the trash, who is your best pick to, like, improve the most in the remaining of the season? Will Fuller? You think it's Fuller? I still think it's Fuller. I'm not dying on this hill. Oh, yeah, Watson, too. Yes, sure, by extension. The whole passing offense would be better.

I just think Will Fuller is a top 15 receiver moving forward. It's just fantastic. This is your hill that you're going to die on. I will die here. It's fine. Leave me. Leave me behind. Don't worry.

You'll get bailed out because he'll get hurt. Hey, it's Danny. As soon as we stopped recording this episode, Will Fuller landed on the injury report with a hamstring strain. So, you know, I want to die. Monitor that. And remember that any prediction of 200 yards for Will Fuller could always be ruined by a hamstring injury.

Okay, back to the episode. I want to just quickly shout out the state of Minnesota sports if the Vikings lose this game, because that would mean that the twins will have lost, in the same week, the twins will have lost 18 straight playoff games. The Timberwolves fans have to watch Jimmy Butler drag the heat to the finals, and the Vikings would drop to 0, and 4,

which would give them a 97.5% chance of missing the playoffs in the same week. Damn, the A's are losing. Damn, I'm bummed. Oh, you can check the score of the A's, but you can't text your mom back. Well, I don't even know what she said. I haven't read it yet. Yeah, that was kind of my point. D.K., do you have another gut call for us?

So this one has a little bit of a caveat because he just popped up on the injury report today, late in the week with a quad injury. But I'm seeing a Terry McLaren spike week. And by that, I am going to different. Yeah, like his points are going to spike up. Oh, I'm going to define that as 20 plus half p p.p. yard points. So yeah, basically the Ravens past defense has quietly not been super, super solid against receivers this year, giving up 27.7 points per game to the position. It's like middle

of the pack. And he's a slant and go guy. He actually, McLauran is. He leads the NFL in yards after the catch per reception. Why a lot. He's averaging 11.2 yards after the catch per reception. The next closest is Cooper Cup at 6.8 yards. So he's almost double. the next closest guy. He's just so fast, so elusive after he catches the ball. I mean, it really only takes like one or two big plays.

He could, you know, he could take it to the house. It's not something you don't necessarily want to depend on, but I think he's just that good. He's getting a good amount of targets. He's the clear, clear number one in this offense. So,

yeah, and I think the other thing that's a factor in this game is he's going to get probably a lot of garbage time going up against, you know, a team that's probably going to come out and take the lead really early in the game, the Ravens.

McLaurin's been up and down. this year. He was the wide receiver 41 in week one, the wide receiver three in week two, wide receiver 37 last week. So I'm guessing that's going to continue that little pattern is going to continue this week and I'm saying 20 plus half ppr points.

I like it. I also like you going half ppr when you could totally skate by and do 20 PPR. You guys made me switch to the standard, like we had to compromise because I'm a PPR guy. Hyphitz is a standard guy and I just, I don't know. I think in PPR, I think in PPR, but like half PPR is close enough.

To be clear, my ideal fantasy scoring is points per first down because that actually matters. I just don't think you should be able to lose two yards on a screen and get points. I just think that's kind of dumb. I like this gut call, D.K., my only worry is that, I don't know, what do you guys think of Haskins so far? He's been bad. Yeah. He was like okay in that Eagles game. And I think, you know, people had a little bit of confidence.

But I don't know. I saw some sad that he is like by far the least accurate quarterback. in the league. Other than Wence. The amazing thing is that Wence is right there with Haskins and a lot of those stats. That's what's, that's what is mind-boggling. It's his completion percentage over-expectation is like negative eight or something ridiculous. Yeah, so he has not been good, but I think, I believe in Terry McLaurne a lot. Also, it's looking like Stephen Sims is going to be out. So he's like really the only option in that offense other than Logan Thomas. So I think he's just going to get fed the ball. Okay. So you like McLaurian.

and you like C.H as a top five back. Craig, do you have another got called for us? AJ Green, top 10 wide receiver this week versus the Jags. Everyone's out on AJ Green. Yep. I'm not. I'm not out. You know, last week he was like, yeah, I'm still like kind of getting back into game

shade, just like figuring it out. Like, I'll definitely get there. Like, he's not hurt or anything like that. He's the same age as Julio Jones. I feel like everyone gets, people decide on when age matters. You know what I mean? Like with Larry Fitzgerald, no one ever, everyone's like, man, he's just so good.

When he turned 30, I don't think anybody was like, well, he's going to fall off a cliff now that he's 30. But A.J. Green's 30, and everyone's like, well, who knows? Well, I think it was the 30 and the foot injuries and the missing playing nine games in like three years. Well, I mean, I don't know. Julio Jones is 31 in his foot injuries. I think A.J. Green is going to have a big week.

All of those predictive models that Josh Hermesmeyer dies and air yards, he's like top five in all of those. It's like, you look at all the best receivers in the league. All of them are scoring well. and then like 20 feet down is AJ Green, except he leads the league in end zone targets per game. He's third in air yards. He leads the league and should be touchdowns

that were called off for like weird touchdowns or whatever. I mean, it's really one of those scenarios where like if he, a couple bad calls, if they went the other way, I think he'd be a completely different thought in everybody's mind. And the Jags have gotten torched. Philip Rivers torched them. Tanna Hill did. Fitzmagic,

which isn't exactly like a sterling list of people. They give up an 80% completion rate. I just think Burrow and all the Bengals win this week. and I think AJ Green, the dude gets like 10 targets a game. I think he's going to have a top 10 wide receiver performance. I like what you're saying because AJ Green, sometimes we can get lost in the advanced stats. But the advanced stats are saying it's the numerical version of,

if you're watching the game with your eyeballs, AJ again should have had two touchdowns a couple weeks ago. And we're so fickle with the narratives where it's, if those calls hadn't been penalized and plays had come back, we'd be like, oh, AJ Green's back, two touchdown game. You know what I mean? It's just sometimes narratives are fickle. And sometimes the numbers can capture,

but we just shift somewhat fecklessly with outcomes, even though you can see how easily it could have been different. Yeah, I feel like everybody judges box scores, not the game. I have a question. And I don't necessarily disagree with you. Do you think people should start T. Higgins this week? Or are you waiting to see if, like, last week was a total aberration? I'm not starting T. Higgins.

I would start Tyler Boyd. Yeah. It's such a classic thing to do is like, well, do you start Cedric Wilson this week? No. No. No. So you're sticking with green, you're sticking with green and Boyd in that offense. I've been burned too many times where like a rookie goes off. You get all excited to start him and then he sucks.

Yeah. It'll be interesting to see what Justin Jefferson does this week. I was just going to say, I was just going to say Justin Jefferson's going to disappoint a lot of people this week. Dika, do you think that? I think that. So you're not starting Justin Jefferson if you're in like a normal 12 team. I would start him over any other rookie wide receiver this week. Especially in a week like this. I would start Jefferson.

Yeah, playing he's. I mean, it's not like the Texans are great in the past defense either. So you're confident he's going to keep doing this, DK, but not 175 yards a game, but. Right, yeah. No, I don't, I don't necessarily, obviously that's an outlier performance. He was our number one ad on Monday, right? Our number one waiver ad.

Yeah. I think, I went back and watched this game. And, yeah, I mean, and the other thing, Danny, that we talked about before the season is there was a lot of worry that he was only a slot receiver. He was only this guy that's going to be in there when they're playing three receiver sets and they played two receiver sets a lot. And all those worries are out the window because he ran, I don't know the exact number, it's like 80% of his routes on the outside.

He looked really good. He was doing exactly what he does in the slot, which is immediately get off the line, which is very important in the pro game because you can get bullied at the line by more experienced corners. He gets off the line and he's good at the catch point. Those are things that he did at LSU from the slot, but he's just doing it on the outside. I was concerned about that before the season. I was concerned about that before the season. You said, worry about it. It'll be fine. And you were right. He's fine with that. All right. Hivitz, we got a gut out of you. Start the Rams against

the Giants. The Giants have the worst pass blocking in the NFL. And they're going against the... All of the Rams? All the Rams. But no, mine is specifically that the Rams are going to be a top five defense this week. But broader speaking, this is just going to be a real... I think they're going to crush them.

I don't remember, no, if you guys remember the Rams game that kind of announced the Rams was in week one a couple years ago. They beat the cults like 48 to 3 or something. I think I'm not expecting that, but I think it'll be like that. They're going to crush him. I think that every single matchup, the Rams are better on every single unit of this team,

specifically at the trenches. Like Aaron Donald against the, I do not know how many Giants linemen they would need to block Aaron Donald. It's more than two. I think that Daniel Jones, and I think I know, Daniel Jones has 20 fumbles and 16 a career appearances. Like he's more than a fumble per game. Lock it. I'm locking in a fumble.

That's what I'm doing. I'm locking in a fumble for Daniel Jones and a top five appearance for the Rams. I think they're going to get turnovers. I think they're a really good bet for a fuck for a touchdown. And then I also would be pretty confident starting Jared Gough. If you need a streamer, if you've been playing Big Ben or whatever, I would plug golf in.

I would throw, I mean, obviously we love Bobby Trees, Cooper Cup. But hey, I just think all the Rams are a go this week in DFS and fantasy and whatever the hell you're doing. Every part of the Rams you can play this week I want a part of. I want to ask you guys something speaking of the Rams because this is a good jump off. And I've been thinking about it a lot this week. Is Daryl Henderson someone you're going out and trading for? And giving up pretty good, like, chunk of value for it.

Like, are you going out aggressively targeting Henderson based on how he looked in this last game? Well, if you're going to do it, I would do it before this week. Because he's probably going to look really good again because the Giants are just, again, and that's just not just me bitching because I'm a fan. Pro football focus, they're the last graded past blocking, or run blocking team, and I think their bottom three and run blocking. I mean, sorry, run stopping.

They just can't do anything. You know, I think you probably should go out and get Darrell Henderson, but I don't want to because I think I wanted Cam Acres to be a thing so much, and Darrell Henderson was so disappointing last year that I'm kind of still, it's anchored in my brain that it's not going to work out.

But I think there's a chance that we're just being negligent And then come week 10, he's like a top 15 running back. There's always the chance he pulls like a Chris Carson. And that's not even like as stark of a difference because Carson was the seventh rounder and he just outplayed Penny, who was a first rounder. But like the difference is Henderson was the third rounder. They, that very next year they took Acres in the second round.

So like the draft capital would assume that Acres is the guy for them. They want to make him the lead back. But man, I don't know. I'm having a very strong internal struggle, especially in dynasty of like, do I want to go out and like aggressively trade for Henderson? Or is this just you know, flash in the pan,

and then he's going to end up being like just the Malcolm Brown, the backup or whatever. So I don't know. It's very tough. But I lean, I lean that Henderson could just straight up steal this job and be like the guy. Yeah, that would be a season long gut prediction. Go get him.

Okay, so Darrell Henderson is the number, one running back in fantasy football. That's DK's bold prediction. By the way, Jared Goff is a QB1. He's a QB9 right now. Yeah, quietly. All right, DK, you got a bold prediction

other than Daryl Henderson, best running back in the world? I got a bold prediction, and it's not feeling as bold as your guys is, or at least not Craig. I'm not guessing any 200-yard games here, but Devante Parker 25 plus points in half VPR. I think this is going to be

a big game for Parker. I think it's going to be a big game for the Dolphin past game because the Seahawks just haven't been able to stop anybody. Seahawks are giving up 60 and a half half PPR points to opposing receivers per game. 60. Okay, so how deep does it go with Miami? Are you starting Preston Williams and Isaiah Ford if you have them on your team? It would probably be more like if a desperation situation because Preston Williams actually,

he like kind of, not he didn't get bench, but he like played a lot less last week. He kind of got subbed in for, he. hasn't been very good. I think he's still coming back from that ACL. He was quoted in, I think it was the Miami Herald or something, like talking about how, you know, he's still under a year removed from his torn ACL. And a lot of guys, like it's, it really takes them over a year to get back to like where they were. So not Preston Williams, but someone like Isaiah Ford, for the people who caught their turn in the draft was, you know, Cortland Sutton, Judy Smith-Schuster and A.J. Brown or something, people who are not playing this week now, those people who are particularly desperate,

Yeah, I think Isaiah Ford is a sneaky play for sure. But just because the Seahawks haven't been able to stop anybody, I think I have faith in Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's a Yolo gamer. He's going to go out there and chuck the ball around. They're probably going to be playing from behind early on. So, you know, if the game script plays out anything close to what is played out with the first three games in Seahawks, it's going to be the Seahawks jump out to a big lead.

And then the defense gives up a whole shitload of yards and points. And it's going to come down to the fourth quarter. and I yeah it's it's in Miami which is tough you know it's still tough to go travel across the country and play so that gives the advantage to the dolphins a little bit so I think their passing game is going to be you know it's going to put up yards put up points and I would you know if you need if you need somebody this week because of how everything is gone Preston Williams and Isaiah 4 I agree what you said because my bold prediction is that the dolphins beat the Seahawks this week oh I was just going to say my non fantasy my non fantasy prediction is that

this game is close. Yeah, I think the Dolphins beat the Seahawks, and please don't take that as like put your, like refinance your mortgage to put money on the Dolphins money line, but rather what I mean is exactly what D.K.'s saying, where I just think that Ryan Fitzpatrick is a solid QB play. If you don't need them in fantasy or two quarterback leagues, at least in DFS or whatever you're doing,

I just like the Dolphins this week. I think Miles Gaskin could get goal line touches. I think the Miami offensive line isn't very good. The Seattle defensive line is worse, or at least not very good either. So I agree. I think Devonte Parker, Preston Williams, I mean, if he gets playing, time. But whoever's going to be on the field for the dolphins this week, I think we'll do very well.

This is a classic Seahawks to lose spot. It just makes so much sense. You know what I mean? That's the thing. It's just, we've all just been so on the Seahawks. I just, I thought about it. I was texting my brother last night, the same thing. I was like, it just feel they're going across. I feel like whenever people in the West Coast travel to Miami, they lose. It's a 5,000 mile journey. Rivers used to do this all the time. They would always go to Miami. They'd be like four in one and they'd lay an egg. It's going to be hot and it might rain. What's the equivalent of 5,000 miles in like Europe. Just to give an idea here because we think of it, oh, it's one country.

5,000 miles is a long way. Hold on. Let's look it up because so it is actually 3,300 miles from Seattle to Miami. Really? As the crow flies. Okay. So let's do like say Paris to diagonal. Okay. London to Russia is 36.

How many miles did you say? 33. Okay. But still, yeah, it's going London to Russia. It's a lot. London to Russia is 3,600 miles. Russia's a big, what's where in Russia? I imagine the beginning.

That's a fair point. London to Russia. The map is like the, you know, like kind of the middle of Russia. Russia's like, like 10,000. I thought you meant the border of us. No, it's dead center. It's London to the dead center of Russia. All right.

Let me do this. Okay. So Paris to Moscow is 2,800. So not even that. Let's do Madrid. I don't know why my middle of Russia thing isn't going to do. to Madrid to Moscow. It's the biggest middle you can pick.

Madrid to Moscow is 4,100. So like it's around, you know, it's like, is, it's like, ish. So what we're trying to say is it's a long trip. It's the length of Europe, essentially. It's the length of Europe. They're traveling. But more importantly, it's because we've been gas, everyone who's been watching football has been gassing up the Seahawks for three weeks and kind of ignoring the fact, you know what?

It's a trap game. They almost lost all those goddamn games. Where Rust looks so good, they almost lost them all anyway. So I like it. I think the Dolphins beat the Seahawks. Yorks with the larger point being the dolphins are not a bad team to go into this week. So I like that. All right.

So those are our gut-gut-bolds. I like them. Okay, let's draft these takes of which ones we like the most. I'm going to go first. Well, you got one and a half points last week. You got the most. I want Will Fuller over 200 yards receiving because I just... Nice.

I just... Going for the money ball. I've been dying on the hill. I got to go to the top. All right. Fair enough. I'm going to go with the Rams will be a top 5D and Danny Dimes will fumble the ball. I'm just going to safe route.

I'm going to play it safe. Statistically likely. Yeah. All right. I'm going with, I'm going to double down on high fits and stuff. I'm going to go with Devante Parker, 25 half ppr points and dolphins beat the Seahawks.

Double money ball, six points if I hit it. What? Oh shit. Okay. So there's been three, three, you've just picked my three takes just back to back to back to back.

I feel like Alabama right now with Nick Sabin. I'm going with Renfro, top 20. This one's a walk. This one's going to happen. I'll walk in the park. All right, Hyphitz, you're up. Oh, I want the, I want the, uh, the Devante Parker one.

I'm going to hit both. I'm thrilled. Even though, Craig already took that, though, didn't he? I already took Devonte Parker, sorry. You got to go with either CEH top five or Terry McLaurin. All right, C.E.H. Top five. That's, that's easy money. All right, cool.

Well, we'll reconvene next week. All right, those are our picks. Excited for Will Fuller to have 300 receiving yards. All right, let's get into our million dollar lineup for week three. Every Friday, we're going to make a Fandul, Daily Fantasy lineup. We're going to play for a million bucks. One million. One million dollars.

No, we're trying to make a million dollars a week here. The year I turned 26 as the head of my own brokerage firm, I made $49 million, which really pissed me off because it was three shy of a million a week. Did we win a million last week? No, no, no, no. But we were close. Yeah, so who spurned us this week? We got Logan Thomas, you screwed us. Josh Kelly, you fumbler.

Well, really, it's Cedric Wilson. And Cedric Wilson. And Ceddy Lambs lunch. God damn it, Cedric. You know, we end up picking guys who fumble. We had Ronald Jones fumbled. And Josh, that's what I'm saying.

Are we just like a curse on these guys? Yeah, everyone gets fumbled. Everyone's benched after the fumbles. Okay. Well, no one fumbled this week. All right. So we're going to, we're rolling with the million dollar lineup. Again, we're entering the million dollars to the winner on Fandol.

We're trying to win a million dollars here. We're trying to beat like 600, 700,000 entries. So you got a little creative here. And if we win, we will do one celebratory pod to gloat. And then I'm moving to the middle of Russia. Yeah, the middle. It's just somewhere in the middle. We'll never find Craig again.

Although, I wonder how your service will be. Yeah, we won't even be able to Zoom. Who knows? Real quick, though, like, I want to talk about who won a million bucks last year. Last week. Last week. The lineup for the million dollar winner last week was basically the Seahawks stack. They had Russell Wilson, Lockett, and Metcalf.

They had Derek Henry and Jonathan Taylor at running back. Michael Gallup at receiver and then Ackler at their flex, Colts at defense. Basically, they're kind of a chalky wist lineup and he hit. Yeah, but their ace in the hole was Jimmy Graham. Yeah, Jimmy Graham was good, no, but like a monkey could have picked every other guy. Yeah, and so I guess that's my point. That's kind of what I was going to get at is our lineup this week is, I don't know if

It's like chalky, but it's not like too crazy. And we're going to basically go with the strategy where we go, stars and us scrub. Well, and I think it's really about betting on a team that you think is going to do really well because if you hit that like the Seahawks last week against Dallas, then half your lineup hits, you know, with Russ, Metcalfe and Lockett. So if you can predict the team that's going to explode, you're halfway there. Well, luckily, we just predicted the team that's going to explode. We're doing a dolphin stack this week.

That's what's going down. We're stacked and we're building around the dolphins because, you know what, we're going big and we'll probably go home too, but whatever. Ryan Fitzpatrick, a quarterback, and we're also thrown in Devonty Parker receiver, and we're throwing in Mike Gisickey at tight end because we want the dolphins this week. Sorry, D.K. Gisiki versus the Seahawks slot defenders. There you go.

Bang. And Jamal Adams is probably missing this game. All right, so we're taking the discounts from picking all the dolphins, and we're putting it to running back. We're going to put Clyde Edwards-Layer in at running back because, as D.K. said, Bedman as top five this week, and we're also getting Camara against Lions because he's Alvin Camara and the lines of the lines. Yeah.

And then at receiver, shout out to Josh Hermsmeyer of established the run, who has this great air yards model. And this week, it's astonishing. DJ Moore is very cheap on Fendell. This week is very cheap

on a lot of platforms. But DJ Moore just seems prime to just blow up, either this week or very soon. And the Cardinals. Man, I would be so happy if he did this. Yeah, I'd be so happy if he has a big game

because he's my diet, die on the hill guy. I thought one of you was going to have DJ Moore on one of your gut things. I think DJ Moore could have really big game. I didn't want to double up on my, my, Diana Hill take from last episode. So, yeah. Well, I had no shame doing that. Will Fuller is also in this

lineup. 200 yards incoming. Really excited about that. Mentioned Devonter Parker and are flexing, we're flexing Odell Beckham because you know what? It's now or never, Odell. It's now or never. And if he has a big week and you're season long, you should probably trade him. But this week, we like him against Dallas. Hopefully he plays, but he'll probably play. And then Rams defense because, again, Daniel Jones fumbles, et cetera. So this one, the wild card is, well, I guess it's the Dolphins, it's three dolphins. Right. It's probably not.

It's probably not a crazy lineup. It's not a wild, wild one. I would say that Beckham is a bit like contrarian just because he's been so bad. Although I don't, you know, I don't know how widely he'll be owned this week. He's so good, but he's been so bad that he's actually a good pick. That's where we're at now with O'Dell. Right. This isn't the craziest lineup ever, but I think the idea is that we're banking on the dolphins just going ham.

All right. I'm excited for Will Fuller. drag us to a million dollars next week or be in the burnt book. I'm down either way, honestly. I'm not sure what's more satisfying. Okay. Beautiful. Anything else? What are you guys going to spend your million dollars on? Oh, a DACA in Russia. Is that how you say it? I never knew how to say that.

Is it Dasha? I don't know how to say to that. Dasha? The things the oligarchs have on the lake. I'm sure we'll get corrected in our email. Yeah, if we have any Russian followers, please let us know. I've always wanted one of those, though. Russian followers or DACA? Both. Okay, great. All right. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you to whoever's going to real estate agent who will sell us one of those Doshas or whatever.

Thank you to Will Fuller in advance for the 200 yards. And thank you most of all to everyone listening. Best of luck this weekend. And we will see you guys next week.