The Ringer NFL Show - Week 4 Matchups, Must-Starts, and Must-Benches

Episode Date: September 30, 2022

We preview the Week 4 fantasy slate with categories including the Hot Tub Club (a.k.a. players with injury concerns), Sunday Scaries, the Debutante Ball Coming Out Party, the Shooter McGavin Award, th...e Siren's Song Team to Avoid, the Mario Kart Rainbow Strip, and more, before holding Fantasy Court. Check out our Week 4 Fantasy Football Rankings for this week's positional rankings and more! Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:02 What's up, everybody. I'm Brian Barrett, former Boston Sports Radio Guy, and now host of the new Ringer show Off the Pike that'll cover your favorite Boston teams and stories. From Fenway to Foxborough to The Garden and Beyond, we're reacting to all the biggest games and moments with episodes at least three times a week featuring myself and some of your favorite guests at the Ringer and in the city. Plus, if the Celtics or the Pats make a surprise trade, if the Red Sox's going to run, or if any news breaks, We'll drop bonus instant reaction episodes too, so you're always up to date with the latest chatter.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Get in on the action and follow off the bike with me, Brian Barrett, now on Spotify. Fantasy Football Show, my name is Danny Hykenz. I am joined by Danny Kellyankeg, Coralbeck. If you are wondering who to start, who to sit in your lineups, we have rankings at Fantasyfutball.org.com. Check it out. Standard, half ppr, full PPR. We have super flex as the default.
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Starting point is 00:01:22 it's really just about vibes. You know? What are we feeling? Yeah, vibe check. Very vibes-oriented episode, starting with hot tub club injuries. I still kind of love the rest of the development doctor thing.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Just the whole like, it's going to be all right. It's going to be all right. I think I realized that number one, none of the categories made any sense. And it was funny the first few times. It was a bit of like forcing a wrap. pound peg into a square hole, but it was fine.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Yeah. Anyway, this is the hot tub club. This is the notable injuries to track this week. We'll just run through him really quickly. Jonathan Taylor was on the injury report. He missed practice for the first time, apparently, according to Adam Schaefter, since middle school. He says all throughout college and high school and to his pro career, Jonathan Taylor's never missed a practice to injury, I guess.
Starting point is 00:02:09 He's the opposite of Kauai Leonard. He's the opposite of Julio Jones. But he was back at practice today, so he's good to go. So that was kind of a false alarm. Also a false alarm, Dowvin Cook, full practice on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:02:22 So apparently he is going to be playing this weekend. So that's good. On the other hand, Chris McCaffrey of the Panthers did not practice on Wednesday or Thursday. This is sort of becoming a little bit concerning. Like, number one. Oh, not a little bit.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I am extremely concerned. This is the, ah, shit. Here we go again. This is unbelievable. I just saw Ian Rappaport said that there's some optimism that he can go, but it's kind of working. because this is like what we were trying to avoid last year, like where it's going to re-injure something, you know, make it worse.
Starting point is 00:02:52 This is like how it starts to snowball a little bit, like you're playing hurt. I don't know. I don't know what they're going to do here. You know, the optimism he will play that was such a reframing because literally like yesterday, we're recording this Thursday. Yesterday on Wednesday, it was like, oh, he's just, he's off every Wednesday. It's fine. A week ago, Christian McCaffrey said, at this point, if I took a leak during practice, I'd end up on the injury report. When did this injury even happen?
Starting point is 00:03:18 So I think it happened during the game on Sunday, I believe. But he finished the game, right? You finished the game, so we thought it was fine. And then I guess, I don't know, something about adrenaline. The point is, and the bottom line is, keep an eye on two players, Chuba Hubbard and Deontay Foreman. Neither of them were going to be, like, super valuable because it's going to be probably split down the middle
Starting point is 00:03:35 in the Panthers offense. It's hot garbage. But if you do need someone to plug in for Christian McCaffrey, Chuba Hubbard is sort of the passing downs guy. Foreman's more of an early down guy. They split their snaps. neither of them were probably going to have a super high ceiling but they could be my gut
Starting point is 00:03:50 I have no idea who's going to win this job and again if McAfee doesn't play it's not even sure you like either of these guys would be worth playing you might if you have McCaffrey you probably want to pick one of them up it's a total guess which one would be more valuable if McAfee played my guess my mildly educated guess is Deontze Foreman
Starting point is 00:04:05 mostly based on Panthers fans kind of hate Chuba Hubbard and you know that like your fan base always knows your team players a little better Panthers fans just feel like Chuba Hubbard cannot break a tackle to save his life, and I'm just gonna roll a foreman. I just hate, I think you stay away.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Anytime there's a handcuff by committee, it's a disaster. And on a shitty team, it's ugly. Yeah, I agree with that. And I'm actually just looking at a table from Nathan Yankee, PFF, who tracks all the usage, and it's like, it's actually just kind of 50-50. Like, they split it up. So,
Starting point is 00:04:38 yeah, I don't know. I'd probably stay away from it, too. So, yeah, here we are, again, McAfrey. All right. Okay. So moving on, monitor McCaffrey going into the weekend. Moving on, David Montgomery and D'Andre Swift, both did not practice on Wednesday or Thursday. Both of those guys are looking likely to be out this weekend, I would say.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And Cordero Patterson for the Falcons, it sounded like he had a veteran rest day on Wednesday, but then he was a did not participate in practice on Thursday again. So this is starting to be a little bit worrisome. This is another guy that monitor going into the weekend. And then Amun Ross St. Brown. Well, I was going to say real quick, the difference, so Montgomery, Khalil Herbert, it's a must start for Chicago if Montgomery's out.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Jamal Williams is a must start for Detroit because Swift's not going to play. Falcons Patterson, not quite that simple. Right. I guess it's Al Jir? Yeah, but it's not. I don't think anyone's worth playing. But yeah, it would be Tyler Al Jare. But I don't actually think he's worth playing. It's a difference. All right. And then going forward,
Starting point is 00:05:33 Almond Ross St. Brown, this is getting a little bit worse. So we did not practice on Wednesday or Thursday. So maybe Josh Reynolds, who did return to practice. On Thursday, he could be a potential flex option to plug in there, DJ Chark. you know, might have a little bit more of a target volume this year or this week. So that could be another thing to keep in mind. But just, yeah, monitor Ammon Rossink, but I'm going into the weekend.
Starting point is 00:05:52 He's a tough guy. He might try to tough it out and play, but right now it's sort of trending towards not playing. Moving on. He guys don't have any comments. Moving on. Michael Thomas did not practice Thursday or Wednesday. And so that's, again, trending towards not playing. James Winston exactly the same.
Starting point is 00:06:13 What do you think, Craig? No, nothing. It's a toe injury from Michael Thomas. It's not the same injury he had in the past with his ankle foot, but toe injuries on receivers are a death sentence. It just triggers old feelings. And we'll get more into James Winston a little bit later and kind of break it down. Here's another concerning one.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Gabriel Davis for the Bills limited participation on Wednesday and then he did not practice on Thursday. So that's something to monitor going into the weekend. I think if he doesn't play, obviously, that's good for guys like Isaiah McKenzie, I guess primarily him. I don't know. he's a slack guy, so who else is here to benefit, like, Coomero? I think he might even be hurt, too.
Starting point is 00:06:50 So this is maybe just like... Stefan Diggs. Yeah, funnel it all to digs. Devin Singletary. James Cook. All right, and then moving on, last couple of balls. Cadarious Tony and Wondell Robinson both did not practice on Wednesday. It's looking like both of those guys.
Starting point is 00:07:05 What? Cadarist Tony? It's not practicing? This is the true hot tub. They didn't practice today either on Thursday. See, Jadares Tony is the opposite of Jonathan Taylor. Tony is the... I think you just assume he never practices and I actually want an update
Starting point is 00:07:17 when Cadarious Tony does practice and it'll save all of us done. Well, he's the personification of this category, the Hot Top Club. It says the Giants Media believes the team is targeting a week five return for when they go to London
Starting point is 00:07:27 to play the Packers for Cadarious Tony. Yeah, they could leave them at a different country. Who's going to score Fantasy points in this receiver for this weekend? Is it David Sills the fifth? Your favorite guy in the world? Richie James.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Yeah, Richard James. Nobody. That one. They're terrible. Is Kenny Golliday finally going to get to play? He has to. And then finally, all the wide receivers on the Buccaneers,
Starting point is 00:07:47 it's just give an update. Jones, Julio Jones, Russell Gage, Chris Godwin, all limited on Wednesday. Breshaarman did not practice on Wednesday. I don't know if I've seen the update yet for them. But it's looking like Jones is trending towards playing. Gage is probably going to play. I would still doubt that Godwin plays, but he's like going in the right direction. So I think Jones and Gage are the guys this week probably.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yeah. And obviously Mike Evans. his back off suspension. Yeah. Last one, Mac Jones, Patriots, doesn't look like he's going to play. Did not practice Wednesday or Thursday.
Starting point is 00:08:19 It sounds like he's trying to play and he's been telling his teammates that he's going to gut it out and try for it. I probably wouldn't bank on that, though. If you do have a Superflex league and you need to find a replacement, I'd probably try and do that now. Hoyer, you know, anybody,
Starting point is 00:08:33 but Jones, I just wouldn't bank on him playing this weekend. No, I would not. And that's it. It's cute that he's telling people who'll play. Okay. So Sunday's scary is, You know the feeling.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Sunday. You really just got to work, go to work tomorrow and you just, you know, get that, that anxiety creeping up. You got the hangover mixing with the Monday morning anxiety blending together.
Starting point is 00:08:54 It's miserable. It's like the shame. What is it? The shame wizard in Big Mouth? Just like a lot of that. And I feel like that my Sunday scary this week. It's Zach Wilson returning for the Jets. I can't remember the last time
Starting point is 00:09:06 like a franchise number two pick was returning for a team. And in my head, I'm like, God. Jet. Like, ugh. Like, like, So here's thing.
Starting point is 00:09:14 It's rough. For Jets fans, this is good. Zach Wilson hurt his knee. And all the Jets fans, all the Jets needed this year was they needed to figure out Zach Wilson's good or not. And Joe Flacco playing was like this big distraction and just kind of derailed their season a little bit. But like for fantasy, this is terrible.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Joe Flacco is so much better than Wilson for our purposes. So like the Jets literally lead the NFL in past steps. The Jets, they are second in the NFL in completions. And because Flacco is just checking down. He's a checkdown God. And because PPR is like socialism for fantasy football where all of Joe Flacco's 92 or whatever completions are a fantasy point. That's 92 fucking fantasy points that Joe Flacco's created, which is the second most in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:09:55 And now we're going back to Zach Wilson, who doesn't check down. He's going to just run or chuck the ball down field or get sacked or whatever the hell Zach Wilson does. He's not going to take conservative anything. So I feel like all of the Jets players will suffer. and despite us having plugged everyone from Garrett Wilson, the rookie, to Tyler Conklin and everyone in between, all of these people will get worse.
Starting point is 00:10:16 And I think that that's obvious in theory. But I wanted to just kind of go through this. Garrett Wilson, the rookie that they took 10th overall, has more targets so far than Justin Jefferson or Tyree Kill or AJ Brown. That is going to go down a lot with Zach Wilson. Tyler Conklin, who we have argued about, the Jets that end, has the same number of targets this year as Travis Kelsen. see on the Chiefs. That's going to go down.
Starting point is 00:10:40 I love that. They're rookie running back. Elijah Moore, their second year receiver, have both have as many targets as Debo Samuel. That will go down. Michael Carter, they're number two running back, 1B, whatever you're going to call him. Same number of targets as Jerry Judy. That's going to change too. All of this, it's like, I literally feel like the Jets are like,
Starting point is 00:10:59 I think of them like the economy. It's like Joe Flacko's like Joe Biden. It's just like pumping money in. Stock markets high. Everyone's like, great. This is going awesome. And then it's like, I don't know how the economy works. They raise rates. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:12 But Zach Wilson goes back. Everything's crashing. It's like you're high on life and you're like, all right. Yeah, Tyler Conklin, fourth tight end. Like, Garrett, like, no. The music is about to stop and everyone is going to wake up sober and be like, wow, I was banking on like two different people on the jets to get. Joe Flacco created inflation.
Starting point is 00:11:30 It's an inflationary environment. Everybody's getting more targets than they should get. Everything's more expensive. Now all of a sudden, the Fed's coming in. to raise rates, shrink it. I don't know. This is me trying to finish your analogy. Advertising works.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I also don't know how the economy works. I think the big things for me is the running backs, because Checkdown King, Flacco was, I mean, he was absolutely feeding Reese Hall targets the last few weeks. That's the most important thing. I think that's going to dramatically change. I still have a little bit of hope that Zach Wilson can kind of keep the ship, like, write it and keep it going a little bit.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Garrett Wilson plays out of the slot. I think he plays out of the slot like 50% of the time or so. So that's definitely beneficial for him. Because if Wilson's going to feed anybody, it's their slot receiver. That's what we saw last year. So I don't know. I think generally speaking, just the play volume is going to drop precipitously
Starting point is 00:12:23 because I don't think he's going to have as many. He's not going to be able to keep as many drives going. That's like my main worry. But the big thing is I would not expect Reese Hall to have like 12 targets game anymore, which is what he was basically doing before. So that's, yeah, he and Michael Carter could see it take a hit here. And like, I don't know if every, like, I think the real answer here is that it's not that we can guarantee every single player is going to play worse with Zach Wilson.
Starting point is 00:12:49 It's just, there might be one that won't. We just don't know which one that is. That's what stuff. It's a very good point. It's like, in theory, they should just keep getting Garrett Wilson the ball in space, but we don't know. Like maybe Garrett Wilson is the next Justin Jefferson. We have no idea. I'm also proud to be the first person ever say this, but it's like, imagine if Jerome Powell,
Starting point is 00:13:06 was accused of having sex with his mom's best friend. And that's basically Zach Wilson. That is quite the analogy. It's like when the poll assassin story, and I'm like, wow, we've never said the sentence before. Policassassant. First time that said that said. No one's ever said that before.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Okay. Next Sunday, scary, T.K. Yeah, I'm going with the Broncos offense. Russell Wilson, Jerry Judy, DeMonte Williams, Albert Zero, as I saw someone post on Twitter. That's it of Albert. Albert Zero.
Starting point is 00:13:38 It looks better when you write it out than, you know, say it. Great for this audio video. It works. It's funny. I do think eventually the soft ones will probably get things figured out, but right now they are second to last in points per game, 14.3. As a team, they're last. Are they?
Starting point is 00:13:58 Oh, no, so you're right. They're last in touchdowns, but they're second to last in points per game. Both bad. Yeah, they're both bad things. things. They are 21st and past completions a game, 30th and points for drive. I saw this from Graham Barnfield.
Starting point is 00:14:11 The Broncos are averaging four yards per play on early down passes. Only the bears are worse than that. Bears worst offense. One of the three or four worst offenses in like 40 years. Ever. Yeah. Basically, I trust Sutton. I think Sutton is the guy that I'm going into this game and feeling good about.
Starting point is 00:14:30 But if you got a role with Giovante, the other thing about this is like the Broncos, all of a sudden have decided to give Mike Boone like 17, 18% of the snaps and like this is totally fucking up the rotation. So again, like, Giovante, less trustworthy than you want him to be Alberto. You cannot start Alberto at this point.
Starting point is 00:14:48 His routes have gone down every single week. He's cuttable. Yeah. What are you going to say, Craig? Are you scared? Do you have the Sunday scaries for Denver this week against Vegas? Or are you saying this is their time to bust out of that? I'm saying I have the,
Starting point is 00:15:04 The Sunday scaries, plug in these guys into my lineup. But as you alluded to, like, this is the week that they could get right. Going up against Las Vegas, the Vegas defense has not been good. Maybe this is the week everything starts to kind of gel for them and whatever. But, like, to me, it's still nerve-wracking. Like, I, in one of my leagues, I literally started Tua over Russ. And I don't know if that's, like, even a hot. That's probably not very hot.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Like, you know, it's not like a hot take. But, like, that's where we are with Russell Wilson. Here's the thing. How much did us and everybody talk about how great the A. F. C. West was going to be this year. The Chiefs, the charge, the Raiders, Broncos. All these teams suck. Like, the Chiefs just drop their game to the Colts, and the Chiefs are just
Starting point is 00:15:42 having struggles with, like, basic parts of their offense they've never had before since they lost Tyreek. The Chargers are, like, absolutely just wrecked already with injuries to basically every important player. The Raiders are literally have the worst record in the entire league. They're the only under, unwind, unvictory team. How do you say this?
Starting point is 00:15:58 Winless. Winless. Thank you. Well, it's like, well, the Texans have a tie. No one cares. We get it. The tie is better. Like the Raiders are the worst record in football. And then the Broncos might lose to the Raiders this week. The Broncos are awful. And again, the stat- I don't think they're that bad.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I think their offense just is not clicking. All right, so they're often, okay, well, to the point where their red zone offense, there's in the red zone, they're, I think, 14% of their red zone drives and touchdowns. That's less than a dice roll. That's less than a dice roll, 14%. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Dude, this team, everything with Denver is awful. So, yeah, I get the Sunday scary. Whoever loses this is lost. Like, the Raiders going 0 and 4, trading for Devante Adams, gozing two first round picks to compete, immediately going 0 and 4 out of the playoffs. Disaster. Broncos losing the Raiders, also disaster.
Starting point is 00:16:48 We should make a bet, and the loser of the bet has to try the Danger Witch from Subway and eat it on there. Well, D.K. did that in Friday. I had a Danger Witch at the Super Bowl. We never discussed this on the podcast. Yeah. Because, so Russell Wilson came to do the subway, ad for Kevin Clark on Slow Newsday.
Starting point is 00:17:06 And Russell Wilson showed up, and I guess the bit they were doing was Russell Wilson was signing the sandwich, like literally sharpied a bread. And they didn't know what to do with it. And so they gave the sandwich to DK. So Russ signed the sandwich for DK on camera. And I think that we've never mentioned that on this podcast. And you didn't take a bite of the Danger Witch, right? No, I just, we were on our way to go eat lunch, so I didn't eat it.
Starting point is 00:17:28 We went to a very delicious taco place. We need to get you a Danger Witch. you ever do anything dangerous I don't know if you guys saw the commercial Russell Wilson made for the Danger Witch recently and what's what do you say what Craig just said that's what he just said
Starting point is 00:17:44 yeah if you want to just have experienced the cringiest 45 seconds of your life you should look this video up and watch it it's like it's Subway and Russell Wilson's attempt at doing like a TikTok bit and it's a disaster I mean it worked because we're talking about it
Starting point is 00:18:00 correct correct but I think it works for the wrong reasons. I think they probably thought it would be good, but if it's getting parodied like crazy. Can we play a clip of it, a small clip? You know, having just sat in our copyright law meeting, perhaps not. But I'll have to double check on that. PFT commenter compared it to like a hostage video
Starting point is 00:18:20 where it's like the Joker and the Dark Night, it's exactly what it's like. It's insanely accurate. He says it's like, this is like Russ talking to a guy he has tied up and gas. He has his mouth back. It's like, it's like, I can't 100% see this. It's so perfect. You think that's how he addresses the team? It's like,
Starting point is 00:18:38 Courtney Sutton, Jerry Judy in the meeting every week. It's like, hey, guys. He's like a conversation with himself. Yeah, you like sandwich? Yeah. I'm going to take a bite. Fucking Buffalo Bill over there. It's terrifying.
Starting point is 00:18:46 He has- He has the most bizarre energy I've ever seen. Unshedling. You know what? Screw it, screw it, scint, scint. We had an email this week, and I have to read this email. This was from Trevor.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I'm not, just honest. Trevor. No, not Trevor. Sorry, it's the other one. It's from Edward. Edward. It's just, it's all about the subject line because he nailed it. Edward's subject line is Russell Wilson is Kendall Roy from Succession.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Like the energy Kendall Roy has at his 40th birthday party is basically the energy that Russell Wilson has in that subway ad and like the whole Broncos season. Yeah. Craig's just cringing. Yeah. Just like, could you imagine Russell Wilson like having a birthday party and they like play and he's like, see this playlist? Certified bangers only. I bet you Russell Wilson and Mark Zuckerberg would get along. They have similar energy.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Dude, that's actually extremely correct. Oh my God. Wow. Okay. All right. Craig, next Sunday scaring other than the entire Russell Wilson video. God, Russ.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Like, stop trying to make him a media star, you know? I got the Sunday scaring for the Saints offense. So, you know, it may feel like Olave and Camara are kind of set and forget players, but I don't know. So they're playing in London this week against the Vikings. And James doesn't look like,
Starting point is 00:20:02 he's going to play. He hasn't practiced, which means that we're going to get some combo of Andy Dalton and maybe Taysam Hill, God forbid. But like, Chris Olavay leads the league in air yards, and that is directly a product of James Winston, who just slings it. Alave goes deep all the time, and James throws deep all the time. Andy Dalton, not that guy. Tassum Hill, even if he has the arm, he doesn't have the accuracy. Michael Thomas has hurt, like we said earlier. But I don't know, the Tasem Hill stuff without Sean Payton doesn't feel right. this game is a really low total I actually don't get why the Vikings are only favored
Starting point is 00:20:36 by two and a half points I just think this is a disaster game for the Saints I think they can have a million three in outs in a row I don't want anybody on the Saints office this week and I just hate playing shitty I hate playing wide receivers that have shitty quarterbacks on shitty offenses and this just screams they're gonna have 13 points
Starting point is 00:20:53 not only that but they're something about the London game where when players don't do well in the London game you feel really stupid yeah you wake up the game's already over and you're like, oh, great, Jarvis Landry had two catches. Having said that Landry's practicing, I feel like Landry's more likely to play than Michael Thomas, which is probably the opposite of what we would have thought a few days ago.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Yeah. If Landry plays, I feel like Landry is probably a bad. He might be actually a really tough. And then Andy Dalton. Yeah. But no, you're right. It's like when you wait, but if you do that,
Starting point is 00:21:21 and then you also have to play them in your receiver spot because the game's earlier. So you've got to like flex your better player. And then wake up and you see Jarvis Landry, like with the two points and you're like, what am I doing? Also, you can't wake up that morning and check just in case Jarvis Landry doesn't play
Starting point is 00:21:35 because the game starts at 6.30 in the morning. Yeah, if you're on the West Coast, it's 6.30, Sunday, it's 9.30 Eastern, and, like, that's still really annoying because, like, you're out of your rhythm. It's like, man. We're annoyed as fantasy managers about having to do things at different times. Can you mention the players? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 My God. I just, I don't want anybody on the Saints this weekend. It scares me. Well, the one person that we have to talk about here. We do have to. It's Case of Hill. Because it's like, oh, my, he's a tight end eligible. it's like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Again, another one. Like, the Grand Thefts, like the, oh shit, here we go again with fucking Tayson Hill, the energy vampire. It's like, if we don't, again,
Starting point is 00:22:12 Taysamil also has a rib injury. So we got to see if he, but he's practicing a quarterback. Like, dude, if Michael Thomas does miss this game and Andy Dalton's the quarterback, they're going to have to have some Taysam Hill packages.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I feel like this is like a quintessential. Taysam Hill like has like three goal line packages. And like, Again, for every other player in the NFL, DK's right, where it's like, what matters is, well, how often are they on the field? And when they're on the fields, how often routes they run?
Starting point is 00:22:39 And of the routes, how often they get the ball thrown? And of the ball thrown, how do they catch it? Tasey Mill doesn't mean anything. It's like, it's like eight snaps, and he'll get eight touches on those eight steps. That's the thing. And it's like, so I kind of wonder, man, should you be streaming Irv Smith this week?
Starting point is 00:22:55 Or do you just play Taseem Hill and just say, yeah, maybe he'll have three touches for two touchdowns? No, you don't. it feels wrong. Doesn't it feel wrong without Sean Payton? It's like when they make a spin-off from a character from a TV show
Starting point is 00:23:07 and like Joey. It's like we need to do that. Yeah. It's like we're friends. They remember they made Joey and they never talked about it. It's just said. But no, but like isn't there a world
Starting point is 00:23:15 or Taysam Hill's playing some? I know Andy Dalton's going to play on this, but isn't there a world where Tazamil gets, I don't know, 10, 12 plays as a quarterback? I don't want to live in that world. It's going to be in Europe. It's going to be in Europe. It's not a world I want to inhabit it.
Starting point is 00:23:30 You're right. You don't live. there, it's fine. Okay. I just wanted to add one meaningless thing to this conversation about the Saints Vikings game in London town. Foggy London Town. I'm actually sure. Is it in London?
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah, I think it's Wembley. Okay. I think it's in London. Was that Tottenham Hotspur Grounds Stadium, whatever that is? Wembley. Is it Wembley? Yeah, that's what I just said. No, you sounded unsure. I didn't know if you're sure or not. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Wembley is in London. Wembley is in fact in London. All right. So peek behind the curtain here a little bit. I was a little buzz last night. Texan Craig. Hyphitz was, Hyphids is on East Coast time, so I didn't add you to the text. I woke up to a lot of texts in the morning.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I didn't want to wake. I didn't want Hyphids to wake up at like whatever and just see like 35 texts. But I was wondering if the U.S. Sending over a game would trigger the Brits when you got stars like Justin Jefferson and Dwayne Washington. He's not really a star,
Starting point is 00:24:27 but you know, Jefferson and Washington, over to Britain, the Revolutionary War, everyone always talks about it every time. This is such a drunk thought. It's so funny. It's such a stretch, but I love it.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I was like, this is the obligatory. We have to reference the Revolutionary War slash American Independence. It's Justin, Dwayne Washington. Are they just going to be triggered by this?
Starting point is 00:24:48 Plus, I'm sure it doesn't help matters that we're sending over our French team. The Saints are going over there. New Orleans. English, you know, obviously the French helped Americans
Starting point is 00:24:56 and the Revolutionary War. Don't worry about it. Anyways, this was definitely a drunk thought. This isn't just a drunk thought. This is a drunk dad thought of like, not only am I drunk, Jefferson in Washington. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Where do we go? Where do we go from here? I mean, I'm trying really hard to be like positive and think of a, I don't know. This is the game I played shortly after this. Let's go through the rosters and pick out the most British sounding names of the players that are playing. Oh, there's more.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Okay. Also, just a heads up, just in case anybody corrects us. So Tottenham does not play in Wembley anymore. They used to. They do not. I do it. No, you didn't, literally. Well, I knew that you were wrong.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I just had a gut feeling about it. All right, here's the most British sounding names. And all our British listeners, all 12 of you can tell me how great. This is the most cringed thing we've ever done. And, like, we've done a lot of critch. Irv Smith. Smith? No? We can just stop doing it.
Starting point is 00:26:01 No, just give me the top three. There's three really good names. No, keep going. Ross Blacklock. Yes. Ross Blacklock. Can I throw one more on the Saints? Calvin Throck Morton.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Is a real player on the Saints? Calvin Throck Morton. C.J. Ham. I don't know why, but that sounds British to me. Ham. C.J. Ham. I love that you took the name. He took the S off James Winston
Starting point is 00:26:28 and made him Jamie Winston. Also, Danielle Hunter. I know that's Daniel. I think this is the most uncultured. I don't know. Michael Thomas. I'm sorry, I was drunk.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Anyway, we probably shouldn't have done this segment, but moving on. I enjoyed it. Can we clip what D.K. just said and use that as a drop every time we feel that way. Anyway, I'm drunk. I was drunk. We should have done.
Starting point is 00:26:58 It was funny when I was texting Craig about it. It was funny. Yeah, wow, okay. All right, well, I don't know where to go from here. Well, I got one for you. Do you want me to go right back to back? Or Craig, you got one? Well, it's like when, yeah, I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:27:13 it's like when Cream Hunter fumbled on his first carry and they're like, all right, we'll give you back the ball, but not right now. I'll just take like one breather. I'll give you a quarter to take a breather. All right. Think about what you've done. This next award is the Odysseus and the Siren song,
Starting point is 00:27:28 award. Wow. And it's for the Pittsburgh Steelers offense. For those that don't know, in The Odyssey, the Greek epic poem by Homer. God damn, Craig. What the fuck are we talking about? The hero Odysseus is warned in one of the chapters. The hero Odysseon is warned of the sirens during his trip home by sea. And the sirens are these women, these beautiful women, they hypnotize you and they lure you in with their songs, and they trick the men into shipwrecking their boats. So Odysseus, tells his crew to tie him up to the mast of the ship and not let him go no matter what he says and ignore anything he says as they pass through and listen to the siren song. Oh, so this is about
Starting point is 00:28:09 Mike Tomlin, not benching Mitchell Chavisky? No, this is about, that's pretty good though. Whatever happens in this game with the Jets, no matter how good the Pittsburgh Steelers offense looks, Najee Harris plays well, don't listen to it, tie yourself to the mass of the ship, stuff beeswax in your ears, because the Jets are terrible. and none of it matters. The Steelers are not good. Their players will not play well for the next seven weeks
Starting point is 00:28:33 when they have the most difficult schedule in the NFL over the next eight weeks. This Jets game is only, the only thing you need to use it for is to sell high in all these Steelers players. The Jets are dead last and past DVOA. They give up tons of points to running backs and wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Jacoby percent had an 80% completion percentage against this team. Nick Chubb had the three touchdown game. Amari Cooper, 100 yards in a touchdown. Tyler Boyd, 100 yards in a touchdown. Devin DuVernay has. two touchdowns against the Jets. Just tie yourself up, blindfold you,
Starting point is 00:29:02 beeswax in the ears. Whatever happens to this game, don't listen to it. Wow. Craig was doing some research on mythology last night, I could tell. I love Greek mythology. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:14 What's your favorite? Yeah, yeah. What's your favorite? Is your favorite Greek? Oh, yeah? You love Greek mythology? Name five. Hercules is dope.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Oh, cool. Hercules, the one with the Disney movie? No, the movie doesn't. to a justice man. The actual 12 trials are actually pretty sad. I actually don't like the Hercules movie. My girlfriend has been for it. They're making a new one. They're making a live action. That's pretty sick. What about Achilles?
Starting point is 00:29:39 Killes is also sick. Could have just dipped the ankles in the river too, though. What about Dionysus? I mean, he had a good life. He definitely like, we should, yeah, we should rank the 12 gods of the power. He was the wine guy, right, Dionysius? Yeah, he was the party, sex wine god. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:56 It's good life. Good work if you can get. at it. Okay. D.K., you had another bit. You wanted to get back on the horse? All right, yeah. This is the Shooter McGavin. This man is ruining golf award. Craig, do you want to give some context for that? Happy Gilmore is running a mock in the PGA,
Starting point is 00:30:13 and Shooter McGavin, like the only, the guy who thinks he's the next, whatever, Tiger Woods, despises him because he's ruining golf. And he goes, everybody's starting to come around on Happy Gilmore. Well, I'm not, Doug. This man is ruining golf. he's like I saw a lady flashing her boobs the other day and shotgunning a beer and I was trying to play
Starting point is 00:30:31 how am I supposed to chip what's that going on in the background too fat two fat bikers having sex in the woods off nine how much just to chip that's what it was I saw too fat bikers in the woods Has anyone cut this up yet
Starting point is 00:30:42 and used to talk about the Saudi Arabia League or no no oh man how am I supposed to chip with that going on this man's ruining golf my version of Happy Gilmore is this too high
Starting point is 00:30:56 defense. Sick of it. It's ruining, it's ruining football. I don't actually know for sure if the two high defenses are to blame for this, but. That's an immediately bad pivot from your point. Well, something is up with NFL scoring is kind of my point. And I think it's largely to do, or a big part of it is this too high defense thing where basically you're taking away a bunch of explosive plays.
Starting point is 00:31:18 That's the main goal. I saw this from, from Graham Barfield. Again, excellent stat pack column at fantasy points. Through the first three weeks of last year, teams averaged 47.1 points per game, on average, per game. So both teams combined. Through the first three weeks this year, it's five points less per game. So 42.1, PPR. This is the lowest.
Starting point is 00:31:41 It's a massive drop, actually. Like league-wide, that's a enormous drop. 2020, it was 50.9. So there's a almost nine-point difference per game scoring just in two years. from 2020 to 2020. That's a really, that's a good number. That shit is falling apart. That's almost 20%.
Starting point is 00:32:01 That's actually a huge drop. But isn't the 2020 number like inflated for the reasons? That's true. That was when they stopped calling holding. They're just like, fuck it. Go for it. And like teams couldn't have training camp and nobody, like everybody was just. And there was no crowd noise.
Starting point is 00:32:16 So maybe so is, so is nothing wrong then? Well, it's down from last year. And last year is a bit more of a, you know, realistic sample. It's down from last year. It's down from 20. 2019. And here's a couple of other stats for your teams are scoring 2.3 touchdowns per game. That would be the lowest average for any season since 2006. Wow. And this is another interesting part of it. Teams are averaging 10.9 yards per reception so far this year, which would be if it happens to happen or if it happens to go all the year around, the lowest all time.
Starting point is 00:32:47 And this is a trend because 2021 and 2020 are the next two short lowest. So basically, the long and the short of it is short passes are taking over her runs. You got these, like, a bunch more low ADOT, like dump-boss and screens and things like that. Those are taking over. Rushing is completely fallen off the map. If you've noticed, there's no good running backs in the NFL anymore in fantasy. Teams are averaging 0.72 rush touchdown of the game. I saw this from PFR. That would rank 88th out of the 101 seasons in PFR's database.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Like, we're talking about like the 1930s. All these stud quarterbacks, these cannon arms, they're not going deep anymore. Patrick Mahomes is muzzled now. It sucks. This is like the shift in baseball. It's like the shift in baseball. Let's get rid of it. No more too high.
Starting point is 00:33:32 You can't do it. I actually, that would be funny if that actually happened. It's outlaw too high stuff. The NFL would do that. Really, honestly, the best way to do it is just eliminate holding again. Free for all. It sucks to be a defender, but, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I'm beginning to come around on him. Everybody's beginning to come around on them. Well, I'm not. I'm not. Dude. That guy. Who's, is it Christopher? McDonald?
Starting point is 00:33:59 Yeah. He's so good. He's funny as hell. Shooter. If it says nothing to add. What do you think? No, it's funny. No, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:34:06 It's funny. It's a funny hat. It's a funny. It's a hat. Look at it. Bert Reynolds. Funny hat. Football season is underway.
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Starting point is 00:35:48 All right, Craig, next award. All right, the debutanteball, aka the coming-out party, is back. It's my, the most uncomfortable segment. I mean, I'd rather I think I just name people who sound British before we did this again. CJ Ham. Travis Etyn will mature versus the Eagles this week. So creepy.
Starting point is 00:36:08 That's so weird. So creepy. He'll come of age. He will come of age in the NFL. He will become a man. Anyway, Travis Etyn, they're facing the Eagles. And he's been pretty disappointing to start the year. He's been fairly average.
Starting point is 00:36:23 It's been like a 60. 40 split snaps wise in favor of James Robinson in the Jags backfield. They've like each kind of run the same amount of routes. ETN's putting up like seven, eight fantasy points a game. But I think this weekend's going to be different. They're playing the Eagles. And, you know, the Jags in the last two weeks, they beat the Colts 24 to zero, and they beat the Chargers up 38 to 10.
Starting point is 00:36:43 There actually hasn't been a ton of opportunity or necessity for ETN to be kind out there in negative game script situations. And now facing Philly, obviously Philly is one of the best teams in the league. but they're also pretty bad against the run. They're giving up almost five yards to carry, and they give up a lot of catches to running backs. Last week, they gave up six catches to J.D. McKissick. And, you know, with Darius Slay and James Bradbury,
Starting point is 00:37:04 it's one of the best cornerback duos in football, so they'll be going up against Christian Kirk and Zay Jones, who actually didn't practice today. But I just like this as a get-right spot for ETIN to kind of come through for people who drafted him on kind of what we expected out of him as like a true past catching specialist, a D'Andre Swift-style role.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I could really see that coming this week against Philly. I like this one. I think this is a good call. He's looked pretty good, like in his limited opportunities. He looks very explosive. It's crazy how they're just up by 20
Starting point is 00:37:35 in the third quarter every game. He's just not the kind of runner James Robinson is. James Robinson is doing all the inside zones. James Robinson's going all the in-between tackles work. He's just this more like physical uphill runner. And ETIN's just more of the, I don't know. Skinny explosive guy? Yeah, just the more like,
Starting point is 00:37:52 Oh, I'm electric in space, but like, I don't know. He's not moving many piles. When Robinson came back, E.T. and made some joke of like, oh, thank God. Now, someone else can do the inside zones, which I thought was very funny. Yeah. But I think this is a good call, Kirk. Well, can you say that he'll mature?
Starting point is 00:38:07 No. Say it. I hope I'll never say it. All right. That's, oh, no, I'm not going to say it. It's also, this is just, it's all so creepy. Let's move on. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Combucha Girl Player of the Week, which again, is that mean, you've probably seen it, where the woman tries kombchi. And she's like, well, do I like it? Well, yeah. I can't believe this has stuck around that we're like this. As if this is like the most well-known meme of all time. Maybe it is. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I think it's like top five. Email us if you have no idea what we've been talking about every time we bring up kombucha girl. Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com. Let us know if we're morons. Also let us know if you've seen the guys. Well, are we? All right, take care. Who's your kombucha girl play of the week?
Starting point is 00:38:47 I'm going with Gino Smith and the Seahawks. I'm talking myself into the Cee. Hawks this weekend. Probably crazy. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Gino Smith right now is currently outscoring these quarterbacks. Daniel Jones. Mack Jones. Ryan Tanhill. Matt Stafford. Russell Wilson. Aaron Rogers. Matt Ryan.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Tom Brady. Justin Fields, which we didn't really need to say. I like how you layered in like a bunch of bad quarterbacks with a bunch of good ones. Yeah, you didn't need to add Mac Jones and Daniel Jones and Justin Fields. I would literally put the people he's in front of. Oh.
Starting point is 00:39:17 This is the people he's in front of. Anyways, the bottom line. is like he's been better than expected. Wait, so he's only out of eight players? So he's like 20th? So he's like the 23rd running back a quarterback? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Let me look it up. Let me look it up. He is 19. Sorry, you're right. Actually, I didn't name them all. He's also better than Baker Mayfield, Trisky. Let's see here. Davis Mills, Cooper Rush.
Starting point is 00:39:41 So he's better than the worst quarterbacks in the NFL. And then he's also been better than Stafford, Brady, Roger. Yeah, you should have revised this and just said he's better than Stafford, Russ. Rogers. This is why we have editors, you guys. Look, we're doing this. We're doing this. You guys didn't edit me.
Starting point is 00:39:51 beforehand. We didn't talk about this. It's good to know. I mean, we like you have the whole American Revolution thing. We did. We gave the unfettered creative space. Well, I appreciate that. Next time, just, you know, maybe like check over my notes here. Okay, anyway, the bottom line is, I know that most people
Starting point is 00:40:09 aren't going to start Gino Smith, but Tyler Lockett, actually kind of nice this weekend against the Lions. Lockett is currently the wide receiver 36 and a half PPR. But if you look at the last two games, he is the wide receiver 20. that's a solid wide receiver to, 13.6 points per game of half of the PR. He ranks 12th in target rate in the entire NFL over the last two games,
Starting point is 00:40:29 29%, almost 30% target rate over the last few games. That's ridiculously good. He's tied for third in the NFL and catches in the last two weeks. Did you know this? I fits. Third in the NFL. I did not. 11th in air yards, 12th in a percentage, so basically the percentage of the team's total air yards.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Basically what I'm saying is, Gino Smith has a great connection with Tyler Lockett. Going up against the Lions, who have given up a lot of points to opposing quarterbacks and opposing teams. And Jeff Okuda, probably going to shadow DK Metcalf? I don't know for sure that's going to happen,
Starting point is 00:41:00 but that would be my guess. What do you think? I think so. Jeff Okuda's been fantastic this year. I think the Lions play the most man coverage of any team in the NFL, and I think Okuda's probably going to shadow it in Metcalf. So Metcalf is still a little dicey.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Lockett, I think, agree. It's a very good play this week. I mean, I had this game, too, for, I mean, I just the Mario Kart, the Rainbow Strip that makes you go faster. Both these defenses suck. The Seahawks defense is awful. The Seahawks is terrible.
Starting point is 00:41:24 They're like bottom five in PFF grade in like past freshman, past coverage and run defense and everything. I think the Seahawks are like the worst. So all the parts of the defense? All the parts of the defense. But like the Lions are just as bad if not worse. And like all of those categories, like if you just sort any defensive stat, the Seahawks and Lions are just both right next to each other in like everything in the bottom five of everything. I mean, the Lions, the combined score of the Lions games on average,
Starting point is 00:41:50 I saw this from Rich Rebar. It's fantastic. The combined score of Lions games this year's 63 points. That's the most in the NFL. Damn. We're awful. The teams are averaging like 40-something,
Starting point is 00:42:00 remember? From this man is ruining golf? Love it. So I think that, I agree. So I think that Lockett's, if you're, the Seahawks,
Starting point is 00:42:07 if you're debating the Seahawks, Metcalf is honestly still a little dicey. Lockett's a really good one. Rashad Penny, if you're ever going to see a sign of life from Rashad Penny, probably be this week. But last time we played the Lions.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I think week 17, like he had 180 or something yards. He had two touchdowns. The Lions is like easily easily a top three like worst run defense. Top three worst is you get what I'm saying even that didn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:42:30 The other thing about runny sucks. Yeah, the other thing about Penny that's interesting at least that we need to kind of like monitor it and see how it goes but they the Seahawks put Travis Homer on IR with a rivetry. And Homer was like eating into the
Starting point is 00:42:44 you know the share or like the rotation with Penny and Walker a lot. Like they're playing him a lot. And so it's going to be interesting to see what they do here. You know, maybe they're going to bring in DJ Dallas and it's still going to be a three-man rotation. But if it's a two-man rotation between Penny and Walker, that's where you start really kind of getting interested.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Who gets their downs in that situation? Penny or Walker? I don't know. This is why I'm a little bit worried that Seahawks are just going to use DJ Dallas. You know, Walker has, you know, he's caught a couple passes this year. He's looked solid in the past game.
Starting point is 00:43:16 But the Seahawks are the Seahawks. And so I would guess they probably bring in the specialist for third downs. We'll see. I'm not saying if you have Penny, you have to play Rashad Penny. It's more like if Shat Petty doesn't play well this week, that you might never want to play him.
Starting point is 00:43:28 They just don't run enough plays. Running backs on bad teams are tough. Yeah. Yes, but this will be a begrudgingly high scoring game. Also, while we're on the Seahawks Lions game, I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:40 the Lions are kind of banged up. So DeAndre Swift, I mean, he's probably not going to play in this game. It's almost definitely. So Jamal Williams, like, must start. I mean, even Craig Reynolds, even you're down bad at running back.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Like, I mean, I don't know, Jamal Williams is the top seven running back as playing with DeAndre Swift banged up, like, who knows? But Jamal Williams must start. Amon Ress St. Brown is banged up, which is terrifying. If he plays, he has to, obviously play him. But, like, man, it's, he's been incredible for Detroit. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:05 It's kind of weird to recommend anyone else, though, like Josh Reynolds, like DJ Shark. I feel like they could have each game. I don't know if I would, like, tell anyone to play them unless you're absolute desperate. But it wouldn't be surprising if, like, DJ Shark got 130 yards to me. Yeah. No, I kind of like that play this week. But like, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Specifically if Amon Ra doesn't play. Yeah. Yeah. Especially because what have you read the stat, right, that the Lions games average 63 points a game this year? Yeah, total. The fact that, I mean, that we're in somebody's got to catch past his territory
Starting point is 00:44:39 with no Swift and no Amon Ra. So if this game's going to be high scoring, like I actually think DJ Shark is a viable flex. Amendoza line, he's well above it, my opinion. Okay. Craig, next award. This is the I'm trying Jennifer award. Do you guys remember that
Starting point is 00:44:54 CJ McCollum meme? This is my favorite thing. Yeah, I do. When you reply to someone, it was like, she's like getting mad at him for losing. C.J. McCollum, he has some podcast, and he basically talked about how he would never do what Durant did and join the Warriors and, like, he's a loyal guy. And then this woman, Jennifer, tweeted
Starting point is 00:45:11 him and said, win a playoff game, then talk. And he responded, I'm trying, Jennifer. That's. I'm trying, Jennifer, or the I'm trying Jennifer where I'm going to give it to Sean McVey and what he's trying to do to Alan Robinson and Cam Makers. Sean McVey feels like the only coach in the league who actually cares about fantasy football. He cares about us.
Starting point is 00:45:33 He gives, he like allocates the ball in the way that fantasy managers want him to and he feels like the only coach who does that. You know, he's like, Alan Robinson, like, we're all like, he's going to be a red zone threat. He'd be so good in the red zone. And Sean McVeigh is like, yeah, like, I'll throw him a ton of balls in the red zone. And we're like, fuck Darrell Henderson.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Like, he's not good. like go with Kmakers. And he's like, I agree. Like, let's try and make, I'll just keep giving them all the Kmakers, even though it doesn't make any sense. So, like, they're playing the Niners this week, which traditionally doesn't go well for Sean McPhey,
Starting point is 00:45:59 except in the playoffs last year. But this is like kind of the half George Costanza, like if the opposite, like just do the opposite award where I'm like, I'm actually, I'm thinking about starting Kamakers and Alan Robinson this week. Alan Robinson's been terribly had two catches last week against the Cardinals. He should have had a touchdown, though. He should have.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Two end zone targets. for him. But man, Sean McVeigh just keeps trying to make Cam Acres and Alan Robinson a thing. Like, all of the advanced stats, or not even the advanced stats, like the very basic stats just show that Daryl Henderson's just playing better than Cam Acres. He just like straight up averages more yards
Starting point is 00:46:33 per carry. He's like, Stafford throws to hit more when he's on the field. McVeigh doesn't care. Acres is fumbled. Henderson hasn't. Like, McVeigh doesn't care. He's going to make Alan Robinson and Cam Acres a thing if it kills him. So I kind of like them this week. Love it. I think this is excellent.
Starting point is 00:46:49 He just hates Daryl Henderson. It's like the Lucille Bluth. Yeah, yeah. I love all my children equally. And then it cuts and she goes, I don't care for Joe. I don't care for Joe. That is John McVey to Daryl Henderson. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:47:05 I love all my running backs equally. I don't care for Daryl Henderson. Perfection. All right, Craig. Give us a little weather report for the weekend. Yeah, this is the here's what's happening in your neck of the woods. Out Roker, baby. I saw him every morning before I went to school.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Here's what's going on in your neck of the woods. Just obviously there's a hurricane going on in Florida. So all these games on the East Coast, the hurricanes rising up, the East Coast. The Eagles are playing in Philly. The Giants are playing in East Rutherford. The Ravens are at home. The Panthers are playing in Charlotte. All these games are projected to have rain.
Starting point is 00:47:42 So just keep that in mind when you're thinking about who you're starting. The Box might leave Florida to go play at the Viking Stadium because the Vikings are in London this week. They're actually confirmed they're going to stay in Tampa Bay. Oh, did they? Oh, they are? Yeah, today. Interesting. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:55 But yeah, so like all of the, a lot of the East Coast games will be raining, so just keep that in mind. Thank you. Even fewer points. Exactly. So that's great. So that's what's going on in your neck of the woods.
Starting point is 00:48:07 That's the best sign-off for a weatherman I've ever seen. It's so good. Remember when Al Roker pooped in his pants at the White House and admitted it? You know what? I feel bad. And remember in the same way you talked about how the guy who the dolphins punter kicked the ball into his butt. Who was that?
Starting point is 00:48:24 Yeah. Trent Sherfield. Sherefield. Trent Shirfield. And you were like, doesn't it suck that that's what he's going to be remembered by? It's a bummer that every time
Starting point is 00:48:32 Al Roker gets brought up, somebody goes, remember when he shit his pants. Yeah, I feel bad now that I said it. Now I feel bad that I said it. He said such a long and, like, illustrious career in media, and we're just like, remember
Starting point is 00:48:42 when he shit his pants. It's like, man, justice for Al. Should we have an Al Roker award for, for that? Like, you know what? He owned up to it. He did.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Why would you? do that. Just deny, deny, deny. No. I don't think you could deny it. I think it was very clear what happened. I think it leaked not only in the media, but also in his pants. Oh, okay, Craig. All right, well, it's too much of a visual for me. Okay, we got a fantasy court here.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Nice. It's from Trevor. Trevor. So he's in a 14-team league. They have a last-place punishment, but they had five people tie for last place in their league. Oh, like, you mean a weekly last-place punishment? No, no, no. This was from last season.
Starting point is 00:49:25 From last year. Oh, got it. Five people tied. So they decided the loser was the tie breaker was going to be based on point differential. And the loser's punishment is pretty significant. 24 hours staying at McDonald's. They have two problems. We got to get off this like you spend 24 hours in a shitty restaurant thing.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Like we need to do something different. Yeah. There were two problems. Due to low staffing, none of the McDonald's they could find were open for 24. hours, which part of me thinks it's funny at the idea of, well, he stayed there for 18 and they closed it two in the morning. It's not enough. He should have offered to work there for the other eight. Wash the dishes. That's really committing. The loser who is in this five-way tie will now not do it because he's a baby, and he's saying that it's a new season. And so knowing that
Starting point is 00:50:13 no one in the future will do this punishment if this person is to go through with it, what do I do now that we're at a stand still? And Trevor writes, we thought about using force, but that seems a bit out of lime, which I thought was very funny. Make him physically. Tie him to the mast of the ship. Well, I'm kind of like, what if all five of them have to go? They all tie. They're all in last.
Starting point is 00:50:32 That's kind of funny. It's like more fun for everyone. I think that's a good way for commissioning at Austin altogether. It's like, well, five of the people's 14 team league. Not to like totally compromise, but can't you make it a better restaurant? Like, that actually stays open all night? Well, I think they're saying that now McDonald's do stay open 24 hours, right? Oh, but now they're saying the guy doesn't...
Starting point is 00:50:54 Yeah, I think because, yeah, they waited. Or maybe he just used to the least. It's like statute of limitations is up because it's the new season or something? That's not okay. No, you can't wait it out. It goes forever. This is one of the most common issues I feel like in fantasy of football is the guy who waits out the last place punishment. Just drags their feet.
Starting point is 00:51:11 And then refuses to do it, yeah. So what do you do with these people, though? You got to do a better job when you are creating the last place punishment to ensure that they will go through with it. You can't just get like a verbal, like you really got to make sure everybody's on board. You know? Also, I think before you draft or before like you start the season, it's sort of, I know that it's not the responsibility of the commissioner, but like you have to kind of like peer pressure that person to get their thing done
Starting point is 00:51:40 before like you start the new season. He turned the book on last season, you know? It's like you got to pay before you draft, right? Like as the commissioner of my high school league, it's like, you're not drafted unless you've paid. And we have the same thing for last place punishment. It's like we're going to finish last place punishment. before the draft, and that's the way it is.
Starting point is 00:51:55 And we're going to agree on it before we begin. Also, like, monetary punishments help. Like, every day that you're late, it's an extra, whatever, $5 on your buying. It's just tough then if the guy's, like, eight months late and, like, are you going to charge him $400? So that's good. No, this is good. $7,000. Physical force back on the table.
Starting point is 00:52:15 You beat him up, break his kneecaps until they pay you the back money. Tie him to a McDonald's for 24 hours and stuff beeswax in his ears. Every league needs an enforcer. That's common knowledge. Someone who's just willing to do the dirty word. We're not really giving this guy any advice. I feel like this is a really difficult situation. I think that this is a YP.
Starting point is 00:52:34 The court is bouncing this back. It's like this is a you problem. We're not touching this one. Yeah, it's tough. You know, it depends how angry everybody is in your league. Like, if this is really an issue or if it's just kind of like a funny joke, no one really cares. You can lead a horse to a McDonald's that's open like 18 hours a day,
Starting point is 00:52:52 but you can't make them stay there. Also, maybe that's the solution. It's just make them stay at a McDonald's. Let them find a McDonald's that's open. And like if they're smart and they find one that's open 12 hours, fine, let them stay there at 12. I would ask him,
Starting point is 00:53:05 what does he think is a just punishment? I wonder what he would say. Do you think he just put the McDonald's in half? Come to a compromise with him. Yeah. Plead bargain. Yeah. That's my solution.
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Starting point is 00:53:35 Thank you, Lord. Oh, thank you, Jesse for production help as well. Yeah. Thank you, Elton John. Ooh, have you done him? I don't know. High Fitz went to an Elton John concert recently. It was so funny because, I mean,
Starting point is 00:53:48 I went to Billy Joel and Elton John. in Pittsburgh, and they were just absolute sellouts. It was crazy. And then I saw a photo this week, the Pittsburgh Pirates had the lowest attended game that probably had like the last 10 years and like, one, Pirates are the least attended team. I think I was trying to see if I could actually
Starting point is 00:54:07 just count how many people were in the photo. I want to say it was like 200 people at a stadium that can fit like probably 20,000, $30,000, $40,000. That's rough. It's like the A's. A's are the same way. A's and pirates should combine. I think that you could combine the A's and the Pirates and the Reds
Starting point is 00:54:23 and you still wouldn't win like 70 games. Oh, 100%. Speaking of an empty stadium, did you guys see this Miami Dolphins story of someone filming the Dolphins walkthrough? Oh, my God, yeah. So this is an incredible story. Hyphids, set the stage because I want to explain what happened during the podcast. Okay, we're recording this on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:54:41 And so also the foundation of all this that hope doesn't get lost is the dolphins had to go to Cincinnati early because of the hurricane. So keep that in mind. they kind of have to ask the Bengals like, hey, like, where can we play, like practice? The Bengals, I don't know who puts them up who, but basically the dolphins get situated at the, I think the football stadium for the University of Cincinnati. And it comes out today that there is some, apparently some student has snuck into the stadium and just filmed their entire walk, because they're playing Thursday football. So the day before the practice, like, the student filmed the entire walkthrough, which, again, was the allegation from SpyGate, because at the walkthrough, they don't have passed. but it's closed to the media, like,
Starting point is 00:55:22 they're just doing like a jog of all other plays they're going to do in the game. So the walk, there's a huge deal. And apparently some student filmed every single game and was tweeting it out. Rinkle in the story as we were recording. Again, this is Thursday, so we don't know what happens in the game tonight.
Starting point is 00:55:39 But wrinkle in the story from Tom Pelliserro, the dolphins noticed people watching their walkthrough on Wednesday in Cincinnati. So they made a sly adjustment. All of the clips circulating on Twitter have 12 players on offense. Fake plays, fake routes on real plays. Either way, Mike McDaniel and company stayed once I've had.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Why didn't they just tell the kid to leave? I don't know. Isn't that a massive waste of time? But it's funny. I feel like we're wasting a lot of time here. It's already a Thursday night game. They have less time to prepare and they're spending an hour and a half faking plays
Starting point is 00:56:16 for the stupid kid in the stands. I've been watching season one of Game of Thrones. and like rewatching it because House of the Dragons and it reminds me early in Game of Thrones like one of this Lannister spies
Starting point is 00:56:28 like they capture him and Rob's like bring him in the tent and like he sees their whole like little board and the Rob's like let him go and everyone's like what are you doing you boy
Starting point is 00:56:36 are you touched which I think is you touched and then like he lets them have that plan it's like how every Bond villain could just kill Bond in the middle of every movie
Starting point is 00:56:45 but they decide to not they decided to torture him and like explain their whole plan it's like hey McDaniels, just go get your security to tell the kid to leave and then continue running your practice. That's a good point. I'm scrolling through the replies here.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Apparently, it was only a few plays that the kid tweeted out. I think that they only did like three or four. So it wasn't like the whole walkthrough. It's still weird. One of the tweets he said was that he had all the plays in his camera. Yeah, I think you're right, though.
Starting point is 00:57:12 If you notice that, maybe it's because they're thinking like you find the one person, but once it's compromised, it's compromised. And like, you can't assume at that point that no one, you know what I mean? It's a big place. Like, it's a big place. Because if it's a student,
Starting point is 00:57:25 that's like best case scenario. I think that if you're Mike McDaniel and you notice that, you kind of have to operate under the assumption that this person could be associated with the Bengals. It'd be really funny. It'd be really funny if the Bengals,
Starting point is 00:57:38 or if the dolphins get flagged for 12 men on the field today. That would be incredible. All right. Well, so this is on Friday. So this whole thing's already happened. Yeah. So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Yeah, we'll see. Okay. All right. I'm trying to think, is there anything? No, yeah, I guess the game already happened. There's nothing to say. No, that's it. All right.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Oh, we already did the goodbyes. Okay, perfect. All right, cool. All right, goodbye.

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