The Ringer NFL Show - Week 4 Recap: Mahomes Cooked Rice, Jayden Daniels Wow, and Arthur Smith Vindicated

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

The guys recap all the Week 4 action by going through some categories, such as “Who won Week 4?,” “Play of the Day,” and “Fart or Shart” (1:25). Then, they add a name to the Fantasy Burn Book (1:07:35). Winners and Losers (8:47) The Oppenheimer Award (26:05) It’s So Over/We’re So Back (29:37) Fart or Shart (40:53) They’re Real and They’re Spectacular (45:47) Play of the Day (50:01) Worst Play of the Day (53:22) The Arthur Smith Award (55:53) Worst Ref Moment (57:51) Lucille Bluth Award (1:04:11) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producer: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and Sunday of Week 4 is over. If you want to know who to add, who to drop, we have a waivers episode coming, Monday night, afternoon-ish, Tuesday morning, depending where you live in the world. Right now, we're going to get to Sunday, all the games we just saw. Starting with Suddenette football, the Bills just beat the Bidgesis just beat the Bid Jesus. Or sorry, the Baltimore Raven just beat the Bidgesis out of the Buffalo Bills, who have not lost a game by more than six points in three years?

D.K., what did you make of this game? Yeah, it was an absolute beatdown. Derek Henry is incredible. I can't believe he's still doing this at like 30 years old. It's incredible. It's really, really fun to watch. First play of the game, he just rumbles first. an 87-yard touch and out first play the game.

Was it the first play of the game? It was the first off-offensive snap. It was the Ravens first play of the game. It was his third longest run. The longest run in the history, the Baltimore Ravens, too. It's wild. Yeah, so it was just dominant, dominant game for them. And like you said, Shiel pointed this out,

the first time they've lost by more than six points in three years. Like, they'd been a very, very competitive. Oh, is that you? Yeah. Good job. Yeah. Yeah. Good job.

No, no, no. I'm reiterating what you said and giving credit to Sheel. You stole it from Sheal. I stole it from Sheal and then called D.K. Out for not attributing to me who stole it from Sheal. That's good. I mean, there's definitely been times where I don't listen to you, so I get it.

But I did hear you the first time. D.K., what is that Seahawks statistic? The early 2010 Seahawks had a very similar stat to this. They didn't lose by a touchdown. Every game was within a touchdown for three years or something. Yeah. It was that 2012 to 2015-ish era. I can't remember how many it was, but it was like a streak of several years where they never

were blown out. And it's just like, I think it just speaks to the competitiveness of the team, like how balanced they are. They're always in it every game. And that's what the bills have done over the last couple of years. So I think just that makes it that much more impressive what the Ravens did. Yeah. 35 to 10, the Ravens won.

And again, it was 21 to 3 at halftime. Honestly, amazingly, should have been way worse. The Ravens kept screwing up. Derek Henry fumbled the ball at the goal line and they got the ball. John Harbaugh had the bizarre timeout thing where he basically had. They didn't have any timeouts. He didn't call any timeouts. And he was just like caught on camera being like,

He was just so mad at himself. But 35 to 10, you mentioned Derek Henry, 24 carries, 199 yards in a touchdown. If he had just not fumbled, he would have to have the 200 on the top. 199, darn. I have to, Roger Sherman, our former colleague here at the Ringer, absolutely nailed it. He tweeted out, and I quote, Derek Henry is going to be the last running back on the Hall of Fame, a god of a religion, this world stopped worshipping.

Henry is the best. He's so unique. Yeah. Doesn't he feel like, like at times he feels like the most untouching. Tackleable, dominant freight train in the league. And then there's like other carries where he looks like a tight end stuck in the mud. On the field. It is very weird.

There's a huge contract. Robotically runs into a guy two yards behind the line of scrimmage. And you're like, is this guy at bottom five running back in the league? It's funny because like he's really kind of just like Tony Pollard, but like big because he's in case. Like third and one, he's kind of like awful. Yeah. somebody I saw dude somebody retweeted a tweet from 2016 I think it was had Derek Henry's rookie season where it was like some story in Tennessee where I was like Derek Henry struggling a lot with

his footwork you know it's like just it's so funny to see way back then like people didn't realize how great he was going to be and he didn't like he didn't do anything for his first first yeah it's couple of years it's funny that when he got tackled on that play to the two I was like there's no way he's scoring because he's terrible in the short yardage and then I don't know but I actually, I was amazed. He is going to be the last running back of the Hall of Fame. I think that Rogers, that's not hyperbole. I was looking.

Someone tweeted out a list of... What? McCaffrey. Yeah, I guess. McCaffrey will make it. But, like, well, we'll see who's going to retire first. McCaffrey or Derek Henry. He might retire.

He might retire next week. Someone had a list of just active running backs on the way to 10,000 rushing yards. And Zika Lilliot is like at like 8,500. Alvin Camara and Aaron Jones are at like 6,500. Like, they're not even... It's not fair. It's not even close. But like,

like if Zieg doesn't get to 10-K, yeah, of course, but I just, I thought it was interesting, like the last running-bets to hit 10, because McCaffrey's got Achilles, then a night,

it's at 29. I think Derek Henry, Zik, I don't know, the next guy's ever going to do it at this point. It's actually kind of crazy. I assume you, you would think.

Well, see, has a really big renaissance in Philly, I suppose you're right, yeah. Anyway, yeah, shout out to Derek Kennedy, last of dying breed.

Shout out to the Ravens. Yeah, it was pretty crazy performance. kicked the crap out of the bill. So yeah, that was amazing. And then anything else in Sunday football, you guys want to hit? Or? The only thing I was thinking about watching this game was that Lamar, after this tough game for Josh, if you think about the top five quarterbacks that were going in draft that tier we created, right? It was it was Mahomes, Hertz, Josh Allen, Lamar, Anthony Richardson. Like, Lamar is clearly the guy once again this year. Like, to me, I would

take him number one probably if I were to redraft right now. and like Hertz is really struggling. Mahomes, that offense is a weird situation will get to. Anthony Richardson, another bag of worms. And then Josh Allen tonight,

you kind of really felt like Stefan Diggs was needed. And Lamar having his specific capabilities and like how he can kind of tailor an offense to him, it just once again feels like Lamar's the best quarterback in fantasy. Yeah. Other than Jane Daniels, who will get to.

I will say before we move on, we do have to hit this. Mark Andrews, one target. that he dropped. So he finishes with zero catches from zero yards. It's rare when I'm like, I could have caught that. It's a rare feeling, but that was one of them. Like twice a year, I'm like, I could have done that.

I randomly, first of all, when he dropped that pass, I got about 40 tweets just talking about getting an ick from watching Mark Andrews. So I guess I have a thing now. It's a bit for me. Dude, that's the mean of like my birthday, like three texts. Mark Andrews drops a catch you should have caught. It's like 50 texts. Also, somebody, somebody,

faved a tweet from like 2022 of mine where it said Mark Andrews dot dot dot what and then it was Denny Carter going he just volleyball set it that into the stands I'm like oh I didn't even come up with that it was Denny so so congrats to Denny and props to Denny. You did the thing I did

the shield. Yeah I stole it essentially I didn't even know I stole it until now I got to steal something I'll steal something by the end of the show what are we stealing yeah so Mark Andrews we could talk about this one Monday and you know in the sober light of day, but in the heat of the moment on Sunday night,

I won't tell you to do this, but you could probably cut Mark Andrews. I won't endorse that. You shouldn't do that. But like, if you want to, you can. Don't do that, but you can cut them. Right? He and Mark Andrews have combined for one catch.

I mean, sorry, he and Isaiah likely have combined for one catch each of the last two games. Is that right? Is it possible? I just look I think Mark Andrews will probably be good at like six weeks but he's he's barely playing I'm looking at I'm looking at the stats right now for true media sometimes the snap counts and the routes get adjusted as the later in the week so just bear in mind this is take it with a grain of salt

he ran eight routes Mark Andrews did it's just not going to get it done guys no it's not it's just not going to get it done eight routes one target zero catches likely had 12 routes which isn't a lot either. One catch for 26 yards. He had a great block. One of these years we should do a league that gives points for drops. The bad tight end league. That's like the only way we're going here.

Like, should we do points per routes for 10s? Jesus. Point per route league. Oh my God. All right. So, R. Pete, everyone does it by Mark Andrews. I'm sorry.

Okay, let's get into just winners and losers here. D.K., who is the winner week for? I think obviously the commander's offense. Like what they are doing, Jane Daniels, Cliff Kingsbury, the commander's offense. We truly haven't seen this anywhere basically since the 1970s, like in terms of their success rate, their efficiency, they're scoring, just everything they're doing. Cliff Kingsbury and Jane Daniels, rookie quarterback are absolutely breaking football right now. It's incredible. So I think, yeah, we just have to shout out the commanders because what they're doing is, like I said, truly historic.

Like, if you look at Dan Pizzuda, who was at the Combine, they missed up his ID and it was Daniel Pizza, which I just love. Danny Pizza. Anyway, our buddy, Dan Pizzuda pointed this out, the only, the highest EPA per dropback, or sorry, the only team since 2000 with a higher EPA per drive through four weeks was the 2007 Patriots. Like what's generally acknowledged as the greatest offense ever, maybe, is the only team that has a higher EPA per day. drive through four weeks. And you stole that matter.

That's that stat from Danny Pizza who took it from Craig. Yeah. They have, they have 23 scoring drives and 19 incomplete passes. They've punted four times all year in one turnover. I know four incompletions today. Insane. So they wall up the Cardinals, Washington beat Arizona, 42 to 14. Yeah, my bad.

And the Cardinal scored on the opening drive. The Cardinal scored 7-0. And then Washington scored 27 unanswered points. to make it 27 to 7. Who do you think was a bigger winner today, High Fitz? Cliff Kingsbury or Jaden Daniels? Jaden? Jaden's a bigger winner on the season because he was, I mean, he's Jaden Daniels

and he's famous now, and Cliff Kingsbury got the game ball because he was the coach, obviously, the Cardinals. And they gave him the game ball after the locker room, and all the players went nuts. And I'm not going to lie, I'm such a sucker for that. I love when there's like a great game ball giveaway after the game, because Quinn was just like, Cliff, and it was like,

And then he was basically, they edited it, which is how you know he gave a great speech, because they actually cut out what he said. You got to watch this video. We found the person that swears more than me. Dan Quinn was, he dropped about 16 F bombs in like a 30 word like speech. It was incredible. Just the pure, the pure, just unbridled swearing in that speech. I was very impressed by Dan Quinn.

So props to him. What's awesome is that for the first time in how many years, the Washington football team has culture and has good vibes. And this feels like a team that likes each other and likes the coaching staff and the ownership group. But like this is all working and coming together. Like this is everyone's dream when you're one of the worst franchises in the league. Like this is kind of exactly how you dream it goes.

It's this is what Washington fans were wistful for what they missed with the Robert Griffin, the third knee injury. This is what they thought they would be getting. And it's pretty incredible to watch a like, a fan base that has just been absolutely screwed by ownership and by all this stuff to actually just get the nostalgia. It's honestly, it's like the office quote of like you ever wish someone would tell you're in the good old days when you're the good old days.

And like the RG3 stuff was taken from them. You're like right. They're back there and it's crazy. I mean, just a couple, you mentioned this, Jane Daniels, these stats are unbelievable. So, uh, Jane and I couldn't, so our own Austin Gale here at the ring of tweeted this one out. Jaden Daniels has the highest completion rate on throws 10 yards downfield by rookie in the first four weeks of the season since at least 2006, the 71% on deep throws alone. 71% was the record for like completion percentage period, like just a few years ago.

He's 71% of deep passes. Overall, Jaden Daniels is throwing, he's completed 82% of his passes, 82% of the passes, which is the most to ever start a season through four games. Not for a rookie, just the most to ever start a season period through four games. And the other one that was insane was this one I couldn't believe. 82% is the highest completion percentage in a four-game span in any season since the merger with at least 100. Ever. Here's the leaderboard. Number three is Tom Brady in 2007 when they went 16 and 0.

Number two is Peyton Manning in 2008. And then number one is Jade and Daniels in 2020. I've talked to you this about this before. Sometimes football looks really hard for like a team. It's like, wow, they can't do anything. They can't even barely complete a pass. And then sometimes it just looks so easy. Right now the commanders, everything they're doing is so easy.

I think that's like the biggest takeaway I have from watching this offense with Jane Daniels. And, you know, they've gotten really good play out of a bunch of guys. Like I think, you know, Brian Robinson, McLaurin, like everybody looks really good in their, in their specific role. but everything just feels so easy. It's like Jane Daniels just sits back there, picks apart a defense.

If he's not got a guy open, he just runs it, gets it to the 20-yard, you know, scramble. Everything is just coming so easy to them. It's really, really impressive. They felt unstoppable last week against the Bengals. The same thing today. And it's also, it's not like Jaden's working

with like the best supporting cast in the league. I mean, this guy's working with Alameda Zakias was the leading receiver today for them with 85 yards. Like they got James Connor and Trey Benson at running back. They're tied end to Zach Ertz. Like they got a rookie and they're, Slot, Luke McCaffrey, they got Noah Brown. Like, this is not like some high-octane crew that he's working with.

It's pretty impressive. Our boy, John, no, right, never by, John Dotson. I wish John Dotson was still on this team. I know. To trade him away. He can't buy a catch. He can't buy a catch on the Eagles either. I have to file this under clearly they know what they were doing.

I don't know how I could criticize anything who drew this point. So the last thing, Washington, we're going to be talking about Jane Daniels and Washington all the season and everything. Just before we move on, D.K., between us. No one's going to hear this. Just, just between, just between us, gals. It's, it's early. You know, we can't, we can't draw any conclusions.

I think I know where you're going with this. Yeah. It's early, it's four weeks. It's, no one's just between us. No. No. Come on. Should Chicago have taken Jane Davis?

No. I'm just saying, I'm just asking. No one's going to hear this. I didn't even ask. It's hypothetical. If you are Washington, right now and they offer you Caleb Williams for Jaden straight up. That's the question. They're not taking it.

No, no, not. You. Washington's not taking it. No, they're not doing it. DK, do you think they should? In the words of Bill Simmons, who says no? Washington says no. Washington says no.

It'd be the most cursed decision ever. Probably would work out terribly for them. But yeah, no, I don't know. Obviously, he's been significantly better than Caleb Williams or four weeks. If you're building your mock draft again right now, who's one? Yeah. If I'm doing it, if I'm doing it. I'm choosing.

I'm still choosing Caleb Williams. You know what's crazy? Eight days ago, people were talking about this. And I was like, what fucking idiots? I can't believe anyone would ask that question two weeks in season. One more game. It's like, all right, it's time. Monday to Sunday.

And I'm like, here's what I will say. I regret not ranking him way higher in fantasy. Because all the signs were there. High fits, you were all over this in the preseason. I think he was one of your biggest, like, flag plants in the preseason.

And I mean, Yeah, I just wish I had gone way harder in terms of like the value who brings fantasy because he's just running all over the place. You know, dicing teams up through the air too, which is all it was always sort of the thesis of why he has such a high upside is because he can do both. He's not just, you know, running quarterback. He's a running quarterback who also can throw deep. The other, yeah, so we'll be talking about watching all the season. The other person that crushed it the season was Craig was all over Rishi Rice for the Chiefs, which was like the best pick you probably could have made. right there with Jen Daniels all season.

Unfortunately, likely torn ACL for Rish Ricee today. I mean, is he the loser, Craig? Or is he the chief's the losers? Or is she the loser? They're both the losers. I'm the loser. My fantasy season's ruined.

And like, I hate fantasy. I ruined. It's the fucking worst. You know, you try to land on guys you want. You try to get steals. Rish Rice was really working out. My three favorite guys this year, Rish Rice, Cooper Cup, Josh Palmer. Two of those three got hurt

after playing great and then Josh Palmer's a bust. So, you know, it's just it's just the worst. And also the way in which Rashid Race got hurt couldn't have been more fluky and unlucky and ridiculous. First quarter, five minutes into the game, Mahomes throws a horrible pick. Of course, Rishie Rice being a good player,

chases after the defender, actually strips him and then as he's falling, he forced the fumble on that way. He forced the fumble and then fucking flies into Mahomes is back, hyper extends his knee, and now everybody's assuming he tore his heel. goes and punish. Right. I will say, I don't know if there's ever been a play like that in NFL Street.

Like, how much a lot of quarterbacks have indirectly gotten their quarterback, her teammate heard? Do you think a quarterback has ever taken out his best receiver's fucking knee before? I bet that's never happened. Probably has that. Like, it's so weird that Patrick Mahomes kind of iced the chief season trying to make a tackle. They're not, they're not done, no. He iced my season.

I mean, dude, I don't know. The Chief's offense now, they were already in a weird spot. They won 17 to 10 today. They put up 17 points. Their first red zone trip was in the third quarter. I don't know, man. They don't have Rishi Rice is probably out for the year. Hollywood Brown's out for the year.

Pacheco's out for a while. This is the worst receiving core the chiefs maybe have ever had in the Mahomes era. I mean, they're now lost. Yeah. Worse to last year? Well,

but now it is last year. It's just you have worth. I mean, it's worthy instead of VALIS scaling. So it's like. Rish Rice, right. Worthy is better than Valus scaling.

But now you have this new iteration of Kelsey, who looks. better today, admittedly, but now it's like you have 35-year-old Kelsey, and now you have this team that was originally dependent on Hollywood Brown and Rishi Rice, and now it's Justin Watson, rookie Xavier Worthy, the corpse of Sky Moore and... Skymore coming in and immediately dropping a pass. It is hands. Would have been a third down conversion.

It looks so much funnier because Skymore wears 24, and when you come in like on a red zone, you assume the chiefs are on defense because the guy wearing 24 just dropped the ball. Why doesn't he change his number? Dude, I don't know. It's so, it's such. Change the vibes. It's so bizarre. But yeah, I think they're running the ball with Kareem Hunt.

Carson Steele's like out of the mix now. It seems like they're committing to Kareem Hunt. You know, I just don't know what their identity is anymore. I was looking at how many points the Chiefs scored this year last year. You know the Chiefs have only reached 30 points or more three times in their last 26 games. Yeah, no, they're not fun. Kansas City 17 to 10, they beat the Chargers, but not very convincingly. No.

until the very end. Yeah, no. I mean, yeah, the Chiefs haven't been very fun to watch an offense for a long time. And it's great, as you said a while ago, like the Chiefs for a TV show that's just been on too long. It's like the office kind of make it with Robert California. Like, there's moments,

but for the most part, it's not the same as it was. I think a lot of this, though, sometimes, not always. And, you know, I'm not saying they're perfect, but, like, having a really good defense changes the, it changes the calculus of how you play offense. And I feel like for a long time. You only get shitty players, yeah. For a long time, they were like, we got to score as many points as we can.

And they did. And now they gave up 10 points to the chart, to like a really beat up Chargers team. And they just were like, we're going to go win this game, ball control, do our thing. And trust our guys to execute down the stretch. And they did that. And they've been doing that for a couple of years. And by the way, they've won two straight Super Bowls doing that. I mean, you know, their offense was better before, but still.

We'll get to waivers and how to replace Rishi Rice and tomorrow show. For Rishie Rice, people. Yeah, I was like sad. I was truly sad. Just devastating. I bet Darius Slateon on the Giants is going to be a chief by the end by the end of October. But we'll talk about Rishi Rice and who had had I replaced him in fantasy on tomorrow's show. Is that supposed to inspire confidence?

Am I supposed to be excited about Darius Slaten on the chiefs? What is that supposed to do to me? I think he'll literally, I think he'll immediately be their second best receiver. Yeah. What is that supposed to do to me? You mean other than Kelsey or worthy? No, like other than worthy. I think he'll be there.

I think Darius Slate will start for them. I like Slate. over Watson. Are you like, do you have like, are you just making this up or do you have like a no, it's not like an informed source thing. I'm saying that if you look around the league of who is the best affordable receiver you could get for like a fifth round pick, like I think it's Darius Slaten. Maybe he didn't tear his ACL. You know, we don't know. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Maybe we are. Yeah. We'll see. All right. My loser is the Jets and the Jets fans. And especially all the Jets fans who went to this game in the Meadowlands

and were read upon to watch the Jets lose to the Denver Broncos 10 to 9 which what a cursed sentence. Bonix won with 60 passing yards. Fewest yards at a win for a quarterback in 18 years which yeah that came from... Who was it? Who was 18 years ago?

Eli Manning. Was it? Got that from Ben Solact via Craig Worldback. Yeah. I have defended Robert Sala for years as the head coach of the Jets. tough game for Bob Sal. I got to just say from Joe Caparosa, have turned on the Jets. I'm just quoting a tweet he had at length

because it was incredible and torture Jets fans, Joe. Sorry, I'm literally choking at my words because the Jets are so disgusting. Christ. Sorry, the Jets are trying to smite me. You like my mom who chokes on her own,

like saliva. Choking on my words. That's what I get for defending Robert. So Joe Carperosa, in a one point loss, the Jets had their best edge rusher lineup off sides twice. the running back, fall started twice.

Their new left tackle out of false start and a hold. They couldn't convert a touchdown from first and goal at the one when they had a 230 pound alien at running back who couldn't get on the field. Defensive linemen melted in the second half because in part they traded for a guy who didn't show up from training camp. Their starting receivers fall started twice. And they were throwing back shoulder fades to the smallest receiver on the team lining up at X.

And they also had an ineligible man downfield twice. And then Brise Hall had four rushing yards and then four combined drops. and flags. So you know what? Not a great day for the Jets. And then Bob Saul comes out and says, maybe we should hard count less, Aaron Rogers. And Aaron Rogers comes out and says, basically, why don't the guys who have roll starting stop false starting? And I'm like, you know what? Kind of with Rogers. So not a great day for the Jets. Not a great day to be rained out upon. I did see Sean Fantasy retweet something he tweeted on September 9th. So I have this on the record. I think the Jets season will be an epic disappointment. Everyone will be fired at its conclusion

and Aaron Rogers will retire. That came up on my. timeline today. Whoops today, Zay. It was raining. Come on. Yeah. 60 yards for bow necks. What a loss.

I'm taking who's your loser the day? Oh, I just wanted to add this in real quick. Klein Kubiak. Klein Kubiak. Klein Kubiak, who is currently a scout for the Cowboys. We might have jumped to conclusions

a little bit after week one with the Saints, or week two, whatever it was. The Saints are kind of just the Saints again. I don't know. So you're saying that because the Saints offensive coordinator Clint Kubiak is now immortal. The Cowboys scout Kubiak will not get a job.

Yes. Thank you for, yeah, explaining that. If you didn't hear the earlier stuff that we were talking about. Yeah, basically, I think the Saints were a red herring to start the year. And the actual, like, fantasy murderers are the commanders in a good way. I mean, like, positive. Right. Like the Alabama receiver kill everyone, but like parentheses complimentary.

Yeah, right. Got it. Complementary. Yeah, complimentary. Kill everyone. The mix of the Bama receiver next to the guy who would like the Soms line. Like good combat and next to the other guy to kill everyone. Yeah.

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Yeah. We took the L, they lost by three to the Colts. And I got to say, it didn't look great to start the game. But second half, Fields came alive, 32 Fantasy. points number one quarterback of the day. I'm going to explain what you texted me in halftime. What did I say exactly? I was like, I'm not enjoying the justice. You said, why the fuck did you tell me Hyphitz to start Fields over Gough?

Yeah. Well, I did. I have such post nut clarity on this. Look, we got the full fields today, I think. What I was saying this whole season, I was like, sure, the Steelers are three and now, I want to see what the Steelers look like when they're down 14. Well, they were down 14. And Fields looked generally okay, I would say. He still like can't really take, he can't get through a game without fling a snap. He really needs to figure that out. But most of his passes were actually accurate and good. And he looked good with pickings. He ran for 50 yards, two touchdowns. He kind of clawed

them back into this game. And he looked pretty good. Even though we lost, the defense got shredded by Joe Flacco. But yeah, Justin Fields, I'm still thrilled with this experiment. And it looks like in Fantasy Man, this is working. Hi, but you called this. As the season goes on, Fields is going to run more and more. He ran more today. Yeah, and then speaking of Joe Flacco, I feel like it's so over, we're so back. We've got Joe backo over there. Yeah, Joe, yeah, sure.

Joe backo. Yeah, he ruined another quarterback situation, didn't he? He ruined the Browns last year. They literally had to get rid of him because it would be awkward in the room because he's better than Deshawn Watson. And I feel like he's not going to be in the Colts next year. He might not be there in three weeks

because he's probably better than Anthony Richardson. So I'm excited to see what team he's shipped to next year. so weird where Richardson got hurt and he like was first a holiest hip like he's in like an ambulance commercial there's no ambulance commercial what the fuck was I just trying to say not a I don't know like Anthony Richardson looked like he was a life for you're trying to say

Anthony Richardson looked like he was a life for their commercial like he was always hip and writhing on the ground and then like I can't get up I looked at my phone to text you guys that I want to like walk into the sea because that's happening to him and then I look back up and he's in the game writhing from a different play why did he I don't know he came back and then it was like I think it was a read option.

He kept the ball and ran out. Yeah. They, like, sent him back down. He was a read off, Anthony. Why are they doing? Why don't you want to read option with the guy who just had a hip injury? And then he like wilted three yards into the play and then never came back.

And then Joe. Yeah. Yeah. He kind of looked like burrow sliding. It was actually, yeah, it was concerning. But anyway, yeah, Flacco was back. We're so back. Flacco coming in and just immediately just completing a bunch of passes.

And you're like, what it's, it is. He completely revived Michael Pittman, had a career or season high, 113 yards. Josh Downs look awesome. Josh Downs would catch 130 balls if Flacco was a starter. I think frankly, like when Andy Dalton and Flacco come in and just look awesome, and I know that Flacco's not necessarily looking great

as much as he's just doing a bunch of checkdowns and stuff, but it makes, I feel like it makes our entire, Craig, it makes her entire generation look terrible. Like all the young, I guess we're not young anymore, but like all the young quarterbacks, like, they're like influencers and everyone's like, get a job. Yeah. It's just like, you know what?

Maybe the millennials should stop buying coffee and eating avocados and like they'd be below home. You know, it just makes all of us look terrible when it. Yeah, like most of the bad offenses in the league. This is like what Chris Ryan was complaining about two weeks ago. It was like, man, it would be kind of nice of a lot of offense. It's just kind of had Joe Flacco.

Yeah. It's like that's terrible for all of us. Yeah. It's like Joe Flackos, whatever. That's that is. T.K., we're so over. Who's back? Deontre Swift,

right after we put him in the freaking burn book last week, had like the best day, maybe of his career. One of his best games ever. He had more scrimmage yards in the Bears 24 to 18 win over the Rams than he did in weeks one and one through three combined by a lot. He had 165 scrimmage yards today and he had 114 in the prior three games. I don't know. I guess this is just what I get for putting him in the burn book. It's my fault.

He also looked really good. He did. Like honestly. I guess like even NFL players can vary dramatically from week to week. in a job like that is considered usually more consistent as a running back like you're just running a lot and he looked awesome he looked way more explosive than he did in the other two games and he had we tweet that out he made some incredible place you're just like running a lot well I mean like you know what I mean you're like man I get why this guy's paid to run professionally yeah right this is why he was he's

paid millions and millions of dollars to run really hard every once in a while he runs well he did And he ran like the wind blows in this game. We're back. I mean, he also had more catches than any other person on the team. It's seven catches for 72 yards. He led them in receiving as well. So I don't know what to do with D'Andre Swift. He's probably going to have like two points next week.

But this is okay. You are allowed to be in the burn book if you are the type of player that pops off every month or so. That actually qualifies you to be in the burn book. That is why actually you were in the burn book. Right. So that's okay. That's part of the profile. Anyway, he looked good running today.

I just lost my mind when he's, $12 billion to just, that guy runs. Yeah, no. You get him run. That guy runs. Can I, can I add a second? We're so back? Please.

We're so back. Kyle Pitts sucks. We're so back. We never left. Two tight ends who outscored Kyle Pitts and a lie. That award is so back. Oh, my God. And I would like to, I would like to do it for you guys right now.

How many, How many, do you want me to tell people how many points Kyle Pitts had today? Sure. Zero. Take some, oh, okay. You thought you were going to take some time. Count up all his targets. I'm so thrilled you made one, Craig.

I actually made my own as well. Okay, good. We can each do it then. There's plenty of options. Kyle Pitts, zero catches, three targets, obviously zero points in the Falcons, win over the Saints. I'm going to give you three tight ends. Two outscored Kyle Pitts.

One did not. Nate Adkins What team is he on anybody know? He's on the I looked it up because I don't know The Browns or the Broncos The Dolphins He's on the Broncos

Nicely done It's an orange one, yeah Number two here Cade Stover Real person Yeah, he's on the Texans Yeah And last

Jake Tongs? Tongus Tongus Sorry No, actually I'm not sure about that I don't know Okay

So Nate Adkins Cade Stover, Jake Tongues. She'll tweeted that out. Yeah. Which one did not outscore Cowpitz? I've never heard of Cade Tongus. I think that person is a concept. It's Jake Tongis, you just combined Cade Stover on Jake Tunger, which is totally fine.

Caterovers is real. It's kind of proving your point. Jake Tungis is fake. They're all real and Jake Tongis tied Kyle Pitts today with zero points. Although there is a silver lining today, Kyle Pitts did actually outscore somebody at tied end with zero points. He outscored Mike Kosicki, who had one. for negative nine yards.

No, no, no, not in full PPR. He had negative nine yards with the catch. So in full PPR, he outscored him, even though he lost nine fucking yards. Okay, right. And half PPR and in standard, Kyle Pitts did outscore somebody with zero points. I have to, I can't, I can't believe this is real.

I actually came up with completely different names. I would like to throw three different people. Zadon Ryerson. Come on. Blake Whitehart. Drew Ogletree. The first one's fake. Are they all fake?

Zayden Ryerson. Scored a touchdown for the Colts today. Oh, right. White Hart. Blake Whitehart and Zadden Ryerson. You see on the Bears? Blake Whiteheart outscored Kyle Pitts today. One of those is the lead of Iron Flame, which is a fantasy, like a romantician novel.

Zadden Ryerson and Blake Whitehart. Whitehart sounds like an 80s like rock band. You're thinking of a white snake. Yeah. Yeah. Craig, which one do you think is fake? I think. The first one is fake, I'm sure.

I think, yeah, Zayden Ryerson. I wouldn't know. Yeah, Zinn Ryerson's both. Yeah, he's in Iron Flame. Okay, what team is Blake Whiteheart on again? I don't know. Cleveland? I'm not sure.

I'm not going to look at that. I saw him score a touchdown today, I think. Don't care. Anyway, Kyle Pitts sucks. Also, so Mike, yeah, Falcons coach for him more set after the game, stats are for losers. Win. Dub.

You know what? This is something that crossed my mind today. And I know that this is not the first time anyone has ever brought this up. But I don't, I'm just like not really sure that Kyle Pitts is even good anymore. You know what I mean? I just, it's been how many years now and like we keep begging teams to utilize him differently? It's like maybe maybe it wasn't Arthur Smith's problem. But Dick is that.

Maybe he, maybe it wasn't his fault as much as I think it was. Maybe I'm the asshole, actually. We should do a Reddit. Am I the asshole? I think I might actually end up being the asshole in this one. I hated how they used this tight end, but that a different coachy staff came in. It turns out they used it exactly like the old coaching staff. Christ.

So here's a positive. Coming into this game, according to fantasy points, he ranked second among tight ends in overall Witts or Blake Whitehart. Kyle Pitts. Okay. On overall win rate on routes. However, his own team has decided that they don't want to, use him as much as they used early in the year. So basically his snap rate has gone down 96 week

1, 72%, 68% 65%. His routes have gone down each week. I'm going to keep is that like 55. He's running basically half the amount of dropbacks. He's running a route today. And the worst here is he is a distant fourth on his own team in first read target rate. So he's the first read on just 7% of his routes. I'm telling you, Darnel Mooney is like the guy. Cousins is in love with Darnel Mooney. It's Drake London, Mooney, and then Ray Ray McLeod is doubling up Cow Pitts. I think we should learn from Kyle Pitts is that when a player is really good at a really young age, that doesn't mean they'll like be mature.

And sometimes a ton of people tell you that you're really great when you're 21, it can be bad. This all being said, I could see Kyle Pitts still having like a David and Joku type career where two or three years down the line he's doing really well. But I don't know. For the first time in a long time, or first time ever really, I'm just like,

eh, maybe he's just not good. I don't know. Like, we keep asking for coaches to utilize him and, you know, exploit his talent.

But maybe he's just not as good as we thought he was. Yeah, that's not like a huge novel thing, but yeah. All right. Speaking of, yeah,

we're so back, cow pit sucking. It's also, it's so over for Nick Ceri. because the eagle, I can't believe what has gone down the Eagles were just

blown off the field and embarrassed the playoffs and by the Buccaneers and today they were just blown off the field and embarrassed by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Speaking of making it look easy,

Baker Mayfield was just dealing out there. And talk about making it look hard. It hurts. Everything he does feels labored now, man. I know that they didn't have Lane Johnson at right tackle and their record without

Lane Johnson is terrible. They didn't have AJ Brown. They didn't have Devontis Smith. Don't care. It's crazy. how bad this team looked in every possible facet, frankly, like it's actually insane. I mean, from, yeah, Jalen Hertz looked awful.

Even just the details, like, you know, Nick Seria, you know, they gave Sequin two carries in the first three drives and went three and out three times, and then he would give a really salty answer about it. The special team, they have like Isaiah Rogers, who's the kid, I believe that was suspended for gambling. So a guy used to taking calculating risks was basically like,

throw, he, like, decided to throw the gunner on the punt return into the punt returner. Oh, yeah. And to be like, yeah, I was trying to draw the flag. And then Suryani's like, yeah, that'll happen every time. Like, complete disconnect on what they should be doing in special teams. Like, there's no command of detail anywhere. Like, everything was so sloppy.

And I'm not saying Sarihani can be fired tomorrow. But if that happened, I wouldn't even be remotely surprised. And he's not long for this world. And to speak of to Schill, things we're stealing from Sheal, I really don't think Siriani will be like a coach in the NFL next year. I think he will be an advisor or he will be in college. So he'll be a big Dom somewhere. else maybe yeah he yeah he should he's gonna be the get get on guy for the low energy coaches he's

gonna push them on the field who who's who's got seriani's back like who would be the guy who would hire seriani nobody you know what i mean because like every coach that gets fired seemingly has a guy that's frank yeah yeah you can come over here and work what's he's not gonna be a quarterback coach you can't speak the jail in arts all right Craig what it's so over we're so back i think it's It's so over for Doug Peterson, coach of the Jags. They lost again, 0 and 4.

They're beating the Texans the whole game. They lost. They're 0 and 2 since making the switch to Trevor Bank Stadium. The Jags have lost. Yeah, that's gonna be like the Billy Goat of like the Chicago Cubs.

Then the Jags are like, yeah, they haven't won a game since they called the Trevor Bank. Since they added the TR. Although I guess they really haven't won a game with Lawrence since like November of last year or so. Yeah, dude,

they've lost nine of their last 10 games. And then after the game in a press conference, he basically asked about play calling and he was like, look, man, when push comes to shove, like you can call the right plays, the players got to execute. So it's not all on us.

And it was like, uh-oh, this guy's cooked. He's not wrong, however. That's not something you need to say publicly. Press conference 101 is like, don't blame the players for that. I'm sure plenty of coaches are going home at night and being like,

fuck, if only my guy could have caught that ball, everything would be different. You can't say that in the press conference. He literally said, as coaches, we can't go out there and make the place. It's a two-way street. He pulled a Giselle.

I can't coach the team and catch the ball, throw the pass. You've got Doug Bunchin, yeah. It's a bummer, though, because the Jags are kind of in, they got killed by the bills last week, but the other three games were very, very close. And like there is a world where they're three and one. So it is a bit of a tough beat. But yeah, Doug Peterson, Nick Siriani,

are they the two candidates for first coach fired right now, the two leaders? Yeah. how do they pay that out if Schaefter tweets it out in quick succession but the paperwork's fired and it you know, like filed in a different order, you know what I mean? That's interesting. Yeah, there's the tweet legally qualified as a firing. Yeah, it's like the tweeted out that what team actually announced.

Yeah, like, how does that even work? All right. Next time, we got a little fart or shart over here. And again, you know, sometimes, you know, a lot of players, you know, don't play well on a given day. And we're like, all right, is this a fart? Is this something that, you know, smell pretty bad, but it's going to go away and everyone will get over it?

Or is it a shart, which, you know, pretty serious. And it requires you doing something different. Yeah, you have to do something about it. Like, it's tough. It's kind of a day ruiner. DK. Breeze Hall, running back for the New York Jets. Breeze Hall had, let me double check here,

10 carries for four yards. It's rough. Is that a fart or a shart? I think it's closer to a fart. Okay. We're not in shart territory quite yet, where we have to really like sit back and look at our lives

and think about what we're doing with our lives. You know what I mean? Is Braylen Allen just better than him straight up? No. So I think Braylen Allen is really good and I'm excited about what Braylon Allen can bring. But if you look at, first of all,

Brise Hall is like one of very few players in the NFL where I'm like, I'm not worried about how good he is. I think he's really, really good. You know what I mean? Like if it was most other players, this kind of game,

I'd be like, okay, I might be out on this guy. But Brise Sala is really good. He's really explosive. He's done it in the past. He's proven it before. He's still dominating snaps. He had twice as many snaps as Braylon Allen. And both Robert Sala and Aaron Rogers came out after the game and were like defending

him really strongly. You know, Sala was like, we're always going to lean on Brees. He's our war horse back. Aaron Rogers was singing his praises. I don't think Brees is bad. I think the problem with Brees is they're both good. Him and Braylon and Allen are both good. and I just think maybe Braylen Allen is a little bit better at the type of run game that the team is doing right now,

which is, and I was talking to Nate Tyson about this, and credit to Nate for kind of pointing this out a couple weeks ago, it's like the run game that the Jets have now is largely Aaron Rogers dictating what's going on at the line of scrimmage and like checking to runs or checking to passes. He wants full control over the offense. And I think what that happens is it simplifies and sort of, of dumbs down the run game, so you don't have quite as diverse of a run game. And he's, and Aaron Rogers also is not moving around. Like, he can't move. So basically, it's just downhill stuff. I know I'm probably simplifying it a lot, but I think that is a kind of a big problem. But at the

same time, I don't think Breece is bad. I think Breast is a really, really good player. So I'm not freaking out about this quite yet. Fart. Fart. Sorry, I know that was long winded, but no, no, no, no. Well, it was a little, Breece had a long-witted fart today. So he passed wind. you will. But yeah, like I said, I think he's a really good player, so I'm not freaking out about this. Hi, Fitz. Beauchon Robinson today received. This really was the Arthur Smith Day.

It's like his ghost haunted Atlanta. I feel haunted. Bejohn Robinson had less carries today than Tyler Algier. This was a vintage 2023 performance. Tyler Algier had one more carry, had pretty much twice his yards. Bejohn Robinson fart or shart. It's a shart. Oh.

It's a shart. It's a shart. What's not expected. I think we were ahead of the curve telling people not to take McCaffrey with the first pick. But you know what? Brees Hall, Bison Robinson. These are the people we said, like take them at the top of the draft. You know what?

I have a new Memento tattoo for next year. Like something I'm going to tattoo on my body. I'm never taking Atlanta Falcon ever again. I will never. As long as I fucking live ever draft in Atlanta Falcon. I will never root for the team. I will never watch any of the players with any stakes. I will never bet on them.

I will never do anything ever again. I will never have like a player who plays on offense for the Falcons ever again. Mark my words. You want to know what the best part about the slow start for Bejohn Robinson is for the second straight year, you could have accidentally drafted Brian Robinson instead of Bejan Robinson and actually be doing better. Wait, like the guy who emailed us that he took Brian Robinson because it said B. Robinson and then all his friends arrested him and then he like won the league because he was.

he did that. Brian Robinson right now through four weeks is the RB 7 in total points. He's averaging more scriments yards and has better success rate than Bijjan Robinson is the RB 18 in total points. Only scored one touchdown. Brian Robinson has just been better than

Bejohn Robinson. This is the dumbest thing ever that we do. This is the stupidest job. Oh, genuinely. This is like playing roulette every week for 18 weeks and needing to hit black every single time to win your league. It's just I don't know why you do it. Why do we play fantasy?

B. Robbins. It's week four and we're examining why we do this. B. Robinson, Jesus. B. Robinson. Fucking. fucking B. Robinson. Fucking. second straight year. Oh my God.

All right. Real and spectacular. These are guys who, again, had a real game or a spectacular game, but is it real? And by the way, they're real and they're spectacular. Craig? The Vikings and the Packers, both teams, I think are real and spectacular.

We saw a little bit of everything in this game. We saw, you know, the Kevin O'Connell offensive scheme, Darnold. They went up 28-0 in this game. Like, they were cooking. We saw the Vikings D, Flores, putting the clamps on the Packers in the first half. Then we got to see, like, LaFleurrez rebuttal, and they clawed back. We got to see Jordan Love. The defense started, the Packers' defense started to do.

do stuff in the second half. Forced turnovers. There was a pick, fumble. So to me, like what this game showed, one, it's like,

love was coming back from an injury. He got better in the second half. To me, I'm like, are these, just the best two teams

in the NFC? This is now, like, the best division in the conference, in the NFL, probably. And this is just super fun. This is like the best coach

two teams in the league, I think. Yeah. That game was like making up for all the other shitty shit that's kind of gone on in those seasons so far.

I know at one point, Craig, you were like, I'm loving this or something. Like, you're texting the chain and you were just like absolute football Nirvana right now watching this Vikings Packers game. But also, like, it's funny because when the Vikings were just curb stomping the Packers, we were like, wow, the Vikings are the best team in the league. And then like all the hyperbole that you felt just kind of like bled out and out as the Packers came closer and closer to coming back.

But it's funny to that Jordan Love wore the Brett Farb jersey to the game and then had the most Brett Farb game since Brett Farb. He touched out three picks. Yeah, no one's done. His stat line literally hadn't been done since Brett Farb was the Packers. And I'm like, I know that guy was just watching Brett Farv highlights. Like he can say it every wants. Mostly his fault that they lost and also that they almost won.

Yeah, it's like he's like the Homer Simpson alcohol thing. He's the cause of and he's the solution to and cause of all greed based problems. It's kind of like the James Winston style of playing football. I love it. Yolo. The 30 for 30 club. Yeah. Minnesota is incredible though.

Although I will say, Darnold, though, same thing where Donald was like unreal in the first half of this game. And Darnold just kept making mistakes to bring Green Bay back in and they won. But I'm like, if Vikings had lost, like, darn, we kept doing dumb shit and like do it. Kind of like a little, not, I mean, Lamar did too, but like there were just kind of like random turnovers where I'm like, dude, you're up like four touchdowns. Why are you doing this? But it's fine. But the teams are really good. Totally. If you look at the box score too, you're like, wow, 29 points. The Packers put on Flores in the Vikings defense. They really didn't. It was really basically 14.

There was a muffed punt that basically led to a touchdown for Green Bay. And then there was a stack fumble from Darnold that gave the Packers the ball in the red zone. So this defense still basically let up 14 points today against love of the Packers. Pretty. Yeah, no, Flores is still an eater. DK, anything else for real and spectacular? One thing I want to point out is Pat Sartan is incredible corner. I think the Broncos defense in general is just really, really good.

I know that we just talked about the Jets for a long time, but the Broncos defense is incredible. And if you look at what Pat Sertan has done through four weeks this season going up against number one receivers. It's been it's something we need to pay attention for for fantasy because week one is D.K. Metcalfe. He put the clamps on him. Pickens,

Mike Evans, and Garrett Wilson all really struggled against Pat Sartan. So next week they get the Raiders and then Chargers and Saints. So I don't know who the number one that we need to worry about on the Raiders and Chargers is because they don't have a number one currently. Devante Adams is hurt. Probably not coming back right away. They'll probably have him

Shadow Palmer. Yeah, when they play the Chargers. Yeah. Or boy, Lad. Maybe we just take a week off for Ladd that week. I think Ladd's better than Garrett Wilson. That was my intrusive thought today. There you go.

I think Ladaghi's better than Garrett Wilson, straight up. Very different styles to two of those players. No, he's just better. Yeah, one plays good football and scores touchdowns the other doesn't. That's the style. Okay. Come on. Nope, well, just saying that was the intrusive thought. That and, you know, I'm never taking a falcon again.

I really like that rule. Yeah. There's just like a DNA in some teams, you know. Best play of the day. I had the George Kittle touchdown where he just leaped over the three Patriots like he was Calvin Johnson. Strongest hands you've ever seen. That was incredible. There's also right after he got called for a really tiki-tack holding call that brought a touchdown back.

So he was like, you know, spiking it in the rest of the face. Is that the one where they hit Jordan Mason in the face with the flag? Did that happen? I didn't see that. Yeah, they hit Jordan Mason in the face with the flag. Insult to injury. Yeah. Craig, what favorite play?

the day. I'm just giving it to the Alabama freshman wide receiver Ryan Williams. 17 years old. 17 years old. That's like the best play I've seen from a wide receiver maybe in my entire life. I don't know. Delcatch. 17. I'm like going to plan my entire dynasty league around

drafting him in 26. I'm starting now. I'm tanking for Ryan Williams right now. I love it. You guys haven't seen this. Go on Twitter, YouTube it. Bamma Georgia. Fourth quarter, Ryan Williams had the most incredible touchdown.

He did like two pirouettes. Masta guy and then broke or like basically got two guys turned around. And then like hit the Noss Tyree kill button for the final 20 yards. I've just like never seen anything like that. He's the guy who had kill everybody on his on his eye mask. Is that right? I, I,

there were like four different things on that play where I'm like, this is the best receiver I've ever seen in my entire life. But he has a really boring name, guys. That makes it more impressive because everyone's like, this is the guy and his name's not even cool. You know what's nice though? We don't have a Williams right now, do we in at wide receiver in the NFL? Mike Williams.

Oh, yeah. There's no Williams in his 20s, though. We don't have like a really famous good Williams right now. There's not even, who is the best Williams in his 20s at receiver? At receiver. In his 20s. I mean, we have Caleb Williams, obviously, quarterback. But a receiver, it's good to always have a Williams.

We don't have a Williams. No, there's, there's go screaming. I have a Williams. There's ghost screaming at us right now. What are you talking about? No, there's go screaming. Williams. You got to have a Williams, Jones. You need to have a Williams.

Jameson Williams is currently in the NFL. He's former Alvarez. Oh, what? You, like, you had that in the bank this whole time. You just Googled that. I know you did. You would have said something if you knew that. Yeah, you're admitting it. You couldn't think of a Williams. Admit it.

I didn't Google. I just looked at the, you know, the leaderboards. But yes, I had forgotten about that guy. Yeah. Right. Just saying, it's nice to happen. But we do have a good Williams. He's awesome. All right. Okay, fine.

about Craig said of that whole change from beginning end. It makes no sense. Of course it does. I know exactly what he's saying. I'm not against it. I just think it's insane. It's deranged.

We need a good Williams. It's true. I know exactly what Craig's saying. What former era did we have like a great Williams that was so important? Look, you need a good Johnson. You need a, that's going to go in the sexual club. You need a good Johnson. You need a good Smith.

You need a good. Williams. It's a part of a fabric of American story. Back in my day, we had two Steve Smith. We had two Roy Williams's. You know what I mean? They came to a time. You had Andre Johnson. You had Chad Johnson. That's what you need for a while. You had Julio Jones. Yeah. No, I, yeah, I agree. Ryan Williams is incredible. The Ohio State. Yeah. You need a good Johnson. All right. Worst play of the day. I feel like it's, I feel like the actual worst play of the day is for she'd she he'd muffing a punt inside the five giving the Falcons a touchdown. And like he handed the Falcons a touchdown on a punt return in a game they lost by like two points.

So like that has to be the worst play the day to me. I don't think it's ever worth fielding a punt. I mean, I mean, he caught and trying to catch it like a catch. He didn't back. He was like too lazy to back up. So he just like tried to like receive it. You need to put your hands above your head. You're not catching a punt right.

Exactly. Like don't. If you got to make a little dummy with your pinkies, then like leave the point alone. Three flies upping it. Not going to work out. However, I would like to do worst play the day. Did you guys see the commercials for that show called? I had to write it down.

Universal Basic guys? No. I don't know what that is. Well, we can move on. They don't do commercials on NFL Red Zone. Email me at ringer fantasy football at Gmail.com. I just, all right, we'll talk about this another time. One day you'll see this.

It was during the Saints game. They were playing that commercial? No, all the games. Everything on Fox is universal basic guys. and I thought it was having a stroke because it was like, I think, I muted it. I refused to watch it, but it was like a commercial,

an animated commercial that what I assume is two dudes in their 40s on universal basic income. I have no idea. We're in a weird place with ads now. We're like, ads are getting traffic. You're like getting traffic ads based on your interest. So you ever have it when you're like watching a TV show on like Hulu

and every commercial break is just the same ad? Yeah. Oh, wait here. I'm on I, I'm looking up on an MDB. Brothers Mark and Hank Huggies suddenly, their last thing is hoagies. Suddenly find themselves without a job

when a giant town, giant and, going to glantin town hot dog factory switches over to automation, but they are lucky enough because they'll be part of a new, a new universal basic income program. So there are hot dog workers that got laid off?

Yeah, it's an animated show about hot dog factory guys to just get UBI. Okay. That's on Fox. So that's my worst play of the day. Email us about bringing fantasy football. We should do,

we should do first coach fired and first show canceled for the fall television season. You know the Super Bowl props where they're like Celtics points versus Jameson Williams yards? What you should do? Does Doug Peterson make it longer than the universal basic guys? Yeah, we should look at the Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC. We should look at all their network shows for the fall and do first show canceled.

Dude, we should bring Balony on to talk about that. First show canceled's good. Oh my God, we should bring Balony on. That's right. Write that down. Right that down. Okay. Next, the Arthur Smith Award for Coach had pitched you all.

other than, well, we might have to rename this, though. Yeah, I know. Arthur Smith vindicated. Just put that to the title. The curse of the Atlanta Falcons. It's Arthur Smith, I'm stupid, you're smart, you're good looking, I'm not attractive.

This is the Daily Double, one of those first Daily Double. Oh, yeah. From Kevin. Chew-Chev. Kevin. You found it. Kevy. He says Mike Tomlin has been in my life since I was 17.

I'm 34 now. Wow, that's, yeah, that's a lot of formative years. Put it like that. We had some good times along the way, but perpetually going nine and eight every year to get blown out in the wild card round has me feeling like Matthew McCona in the interrogation room times a flat circle. I know a lot of franchises would kill to have the success Pittsburgh has. But as I write this, Mike Tomlin is refusing to use his last time out on fourth and

11 with the game on the line and up, yep, of course, we did not get the play. And I was also watching this live and I had the same thought, Craig. like what what on earth was Mike Tomlin? Why did they not take a timeout to get that play set? Because on the third and 11 preceding it, they thought the clock would stop and it didn't. And they were very frazzled. And I was like, take the time out.

Yeah, I think like Friermuth tried to get out of bounds, but they counted him inbound so that they were frantically freaking out. Noggi, yeah, yes. Yeah. And this was Nancy Romo, right? Romo was completely confused. He was like, I don't know why they're not using a timeout here, Jim. I don't know why they're not using a time out here, Jim.

I was going to say, how dare you say it? Was it, Danceroma? I thought that was cheese chargers. Was it not? I'm losing my mind. You're right. No, you're right. Who was doing, I don't remember who was doing.

Olson? I don't know. Maybe. Romo follows me wherever I go. But you just, just in your head. To be honest, Tomlin's never been good at clock management. Tomlin's never been good at challenges. He's never been good at fourth down decisions.

Like this is a, this was part for the course for Tomlin, to be honest. This is like one of his biggest flaws. I thought it was really bad. I thought it was really bad. Worst referee moment. Hello. Thursday at football. I think I defend the refs the most on this show. Worst referee moment of the season.

Yes. Good. I'm biased. Good. I'm biased. Let the hate flow through you. It happened to the Giants is the worst referee moment of the season. Daniel Bellinger, the Giants tight end, San Diego State, Craig.

Shout to how. Daniel Bellinger got face masked on the first drive of the game. And the rest got confused and they called it on Daniel Bellinger. Like, and it wasn't like, oh, he was. was doing it too. He was face messed and they got confused and they just called it on him and the Giants should have had a first and test that. I don't. It's what it's for. They've been really good at it doesn't make any sense that they can't fix that. Should have been a first and 10 at the 18 and it became second and 18 at the 48. Wow. So, you know, Jesus. That's tough. Worst moment. Oh.

We need like, there just needs to be one mulligan a game. They do. No, they have the expedited replay. Like they have been doing it and I can't believe on it. It was, it's, it's, it's, Look, when everyone watching a game can see how, like, blatantly wrong something is, like, they should just be allowed. The NFL should have a mechanism to change that call. Daniel Jones made too many mistakes in that game for me to say that, like, it was the refs of cost them the game. But man, that was the worst call the year. I mean, it's good they lost, though. My worst referee moment was late.

So there's 340 left in the Broncos Jets game. The Jets were winning at the time. Aaron Rogers fumbled. The Broncos recovered, scored a touchdown. But the refs blew the play dead, even though they very clearly didn't know he was down. It was just like, yeah,

he looks down. So they blew the play dead, which is, because it runs opposite to what I think they've focused on doing lately, which is letting a play play out. And then they go back and review it. Like the Miami game. They did the Hail Mary and they were like,

oh, we don't know, call the touchdowns so we can just look at it. Right. And the play, it was wrong. They, it was a fumble.

They should, the Bronco should have, had the lead at that point. Instead, they had to put, or instead the Jets were able to punt because Sean Payton had zero challenges at the moment, which is probably a whole other story. But, um,

I don't know. But ultimately, like the ball didn't lie at the end of the game. The Jets missed a field goal as time expired to lose. So, you know, whatever. It made, it made things harder for the Broncos. But man, that was like, what?

I, it just annoys the shit out of me when these refs are in such a rush to call play dead when it's clearly, it's very not clear what that happened. Yeah, remember the Lions game last week? Goffered the pick six. They called it dead at the two-minute warning. God, yeah, yeah. So brutal calls.

Anyways, that was tough. Mine is, dude, late in the third quarter in the Colts' Steelers game, Flacco threw a deep ball to the wide receiver. It was third down. Minka hits this guy with his shoulder, clean hit, just like hits him hard with his shoulder. They call unnecessary roughness, gets the Colts the ball in the red zone.

They end up scoring going up two touchdowns and essentially is the reason why the Colts won the game. And Minko was super pissed after the game. He's like, I don't even know what we're playing for anymore. It was like, as clean a hit as you can lay on somebody, it was just a hard hit. All the announcers were upset. It's one of the most annoying parts of football right now is like these guys actively trying to follow the rules. And like literally, he is following the rule.

He just hit him too hard. Do they call like a hit to the face and neck area or something like that? Because I thought that was another thing that was reviewable now. He didn't even hit him there. It was like unnecessary roughness. think. Yeah, because I don't know. I feel like,

and maybe I'm wrong on this and I'm just like misremembering, but I thought there have been times where they'll throw a flag for unnecessary roughness or whatever, and then they'll do an expedited review and they'll pick up a flag if it ended up being a clean hit.

Am I wrong with that? I could be misremembering. The expedited review is a really good thing and like something we've been asking for forever, but I think when it's in the one o'clock window, there are seven games going on. New York is too busy? Come on.

Yeah. You hire another guy. What do we doing here? Daniel Bell and, The third football is the only game going on. They could have been like that guy. That guy got face masks. It was that busy.

It was unnecessary roughness and they went shoulder to shoulder, him and Adi Mitchell. I just don't understand. Don't understand. I already gave my ref thing. I have to just mention saying that was all over today. I think you have a bunch of players now doing celebrations that involve guns. Like Drake London did the thing with the Draco. And like, you know, it's all the thing now.

They shoot like basically modern day Tommy guns. But it's got a little far because Alan Lazard was called for he did finger guns. when they got a first down, little finger guns, and they threw the flag and putting back 15 yards. And I just have to throw out the double standard of,

so Alan Azar just finger guns and gets flagged. The Patriots, when they score touchdown, there's a literal firing squad on the field. They shoot muskets on the field. I mean, the Buccaneers shoot cannons.

The Buccaneers shoot cannons. And they score a touchdown. And then the players shoot an imaginary gun. They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what example does this set for the children? Meanwhile, they got like fucking F-18s flying over the stadium beforehand. Not to mention many other issues with players in the NFL. I just love the idea of a firing squad like 10 feet away. That's actually really funny.

The, like the revolutionary war guys. Maybe if instead of miming a Tommy Gun, he mims an old, you know, an old, you know, He just, like, load the musket. Yeah, maybe if he loads the musket, that's fun. Like, the gut or the whatever it is, the, it would actually be really funny. It takes 40 seconds to do it. He's like, it's like, yeah, that's like a pipe cleaner thing in there.

You're shoving in there. Wadding up the musket ball and putting it in it. It's an intricate process he's doing on in the end of. It takes him four minutes. He's got like something in his mouth. He's like, I don't know what they do. I would love that. It's so good.

It's like Last of the Mohicans. We should get John Wick movie in Revolutionary War. We're just reloading really fast. Oh, my God. All right. Lucille Bluth award for the, I don't understand the stat line, and I won't respond to it.

After the game today, after the Colt Steelers game, they interviewed Joe Flacco, and the reporter was like, Anthony Richardson says, you're pretty cool. You're cooler than he expected. And Joe Flacco was like,

I don't know about that, man. Anthony Richardson's mom is eight days older than me. Oh, wow. Kind of blew my mind. He's like, so I'm telling me not cool. Eight days? Why does he know how old Anthony Richards' mom is? Richardson told him that.

He's probably like, oh, man, you're pretty cool. You're my mom's age. That's like a rom-com. Flacco seems like a chill dad. He seems like a chill guy. Flacco has kind of done a turn late in his career where early on in his career, he had no personality and he was genuinely unlikable just watching him on the field.

And now he's like a love, like a fun uncle kind of. He's changed his dynamic. He's changed his demeanor a lot. And I really like it. He's gone full Mitt Romney. He's likable though. I love it.

The McKay Coppins, he just this great writer for the Atlantic did a profile Mitt Romney. And he just really sad about how he lived this whole life like, you know, Massachusetts, Utah, his family's in Utah. But like he lives in D.C., you know, for the Senate, like, during the week. And his wife basically was like, I'm not doing that.

So he lives alone in a man. So he's like, for the first time of life, he lives, like, alone in an apartment. And his dinners are just like, he gets like frozen salmon from like one foldout chair and he just. He just puts ketchup on frozen salmon and he thaws it. And that's what he has for dinner, like every day. Jesus. And yeah, sad life. That's the Derek Henry diet.

Did you guys see that? He just sandwich. Did you see the thing about like Derek? Did you see the thing about like Derek Henry especially has as strict a diet as like what? what Tom Brady used to do. No fried foods, no gluten. Oh, yeah. Not that's inflammatory.

No night, no night shades. He does no dairy, no artificial sugars. Yeah, he doesn't eat till like 2 p.m. every day. Where did I see that they were going to get the rock to come on hot ones? And then he asked if he could do salmon. And they were like, what? What? Is that real?

I don't know if that was, I saw it. And I don't remember, it could be fake. But I saw it somewhere. There's no way. he could do sweet tea and it was like, that's too spicy. Sorry, that was a Kai joke. Yeah. Rock doing salmon.

All right, wait. We also have a double. We have a double. What's it called? It's really late here. Not double Jeopardy. Daily double. Daily, double.

Oh, really? Okay. Found the other one. This one is from Joshua. Josh. Josh. Josh. Joshy.

Boenick started this game with negative seven passing yards. Oh, for. eight on throws beyond the line of scrimmage. Oh for seven, or sorry, seven for seven behind the line of scrimmage. Sorry, God damn, you know what, it's really late. Start over. No, seven for seven, five, no, five completions for seven. You know what, where is this?

I know it, I know it. At halftime. He was seven for 15 for negative seven yards. And, you know, when you see that, it's net passing a lot of times where it's like including sacks. It wasn't including sacks. He just actually got, he lost seven yards on the completions. 15 attempts

negative 7 yards That's like impossible When I don't understand And I won't I won't respond to it And the Broncos won by the way Yeah dub

Burn book Kyle Pitts book it I Yeah Come on Is this the earliest We've ever put Kyle Pitts In the burn book

I would love to know It's worse than ever Is it Pitts or this of all years This was supposed He was supposed to be the chosen one But I would say This is the most our expectations have been, have been disappointed in the last few years, right?

Like, last year, coming off the injury, Desmond Ritter, we were really pushing it back then to expect him to do well. This year was like, oh, you, Kirk Cut. Like, everything's different this year, and he's still shitting the bed. And it's, you know what? Because I think the Mark Andrews people are like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, it's been three weeks. Like, the Cowpitz thing, if you're still on it at this point, it's such a kick in the nuts. Also, there were warning signs to Mark Andrews.

Like, at least the guy got in a car accident. And at least there's like another good tight end on his team. Fitz, yeah. Well, sorry, Josh Norris and underdog. Scott Bear, you know what? I'm so late. I keep forgetting everyone. Someone keeps joking that we should just call Darno Moody a tight end.

Right. We should. Just to make ourselves happier. But like, it's so, I'm not, there's no other word for it. It's so embarrassing if you have Kyle Pitts in your team. You're in the book. It's humiliating. Wait, have we not burned Mark Andrews too?

No, we haven't. Oh. Can we do both? Are you want? Only do one. I think we have to pick one. I think Kyle Pitt, like the idea of like putting someone in before Kyle Pitts, like Mark Andrews is more pressing because you paid more for him this year.

But like, it's humiliating. Like people feel bad for you if you Mark Andrews. You're not embarrassed to say you drafted Mark Andrews. Yeah, you got God. Kyle Pitts, it's like you got yourself. It's so embarrassing. Mark Andrews is like, look, unlucky. He's getting older.

He had a car accident two weeks before the season. He's not playing well. Literally it's like if I drafted Mark Andrews, shame on me. If I drafted. Kyle Pitts, shame on you. Or if you drafted Kyle Pitts, shame on you. Yep. And not going to be not going to be shaming me anymore.

All right. Won't get fooled again. Yeah, well, not going to fool me again. All right, Kyle Pitts, you're in the bird book. We should name it. We should take Arthur Smith's name off the coaching award and put Kyle puts his name on the burnbook. Yeah, some falcon has to be the name for some cat. Should we just burn the Falcons?

No, no, no. No, it's Carl Pitts. Drake London's playing well. It's Cal Pitts. All right. Kyle Pitts, you're in the burn book. You are the burn book, Kyle Pitts. All right, thank you ever for listening.

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Thank you, Chris Christofferson. I know. Rest and peace. Yeah. All-time career, all-time life. I never saw his stars born. Did you? No. Yeah. And if I would be lying if I told you I was like a huge fan of his music,

but I just like respect that. I know I sound like Hansel. I just respect that he's doing it. But like his career. I'm talking about Sting. Yeah. Sting, you know,

Sting would be a hero of mine. I don't really listen to his music, but respect that he's making it. But like, no, but really with Chris Christopher's like this guy's had like an insanely awesome life. He was, uh,

you know, he was a soldier, a movie star, a singer, like some of the most incredible things you've ever heard in their life. Like, go read, go read about his life. Pretty crazy. Also, my image of him as an actor was from the movie Blade for some reason. Did you ever watch the Blade trilogy? With Wesley Snipes, he's in Blade? Yeah, I think so.

Hold on. Let me make sure I'm getting that right. Yeah, he was, uh, shit, what was his name in that? Whistler. great character. I was thinking it was whiskey, but this Whistler. Anyway, I really do respect that he made it. And I wasn't trying to be funny.

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