The Ringer NFL Show - Week 6 Matchups: Revenge Week, the Vikings-Bears Tank-Off, and the George Costanza Pick

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

Kellen Moore vs. the Cowboys, Josh McDaniels faces off against the Golden Bachelor (a.k.a Bill Belichick), the George Costanza pick of the week, the Vikings-Bears tank-off game, the Astroglide matchup, pouring one out for injured stars, and much more (2:21). Check out our Week 6 Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings, waiver wire pickups, and much more! Fanduel.com/ringerffs is live! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens and Jack Sanders Producer: Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Let's get to the show. Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyfitz and I am joined by Craig Horlebeck and Danny Kelly, baby. Boys, we're recording this Thursday, October 12th. But people listening to this right now, Friday the 13th. D.K., are you superstitious? No. Not even a little.

What about in fantasy football? No. It's funny because Highfitz is very superstitious. I've watched football games with this guy. How can you call me a jinx if I'm not superstious? It's true. We were at Bill's House and then I ran, I jinxed the kicker. Hyphitz does this little thing where he will run up towards the TV and like make a little X or something with his foot.

What is it? What is it? For important field goals. It's for important field goals. Everyone laughed at me. And then what happened? Justin Tucker missed a 40-year field goal. The Giants won the game.

Hyvitz hasn't been invited back to Bill Sim. It's true. Craig and I are doing Bill's show today, too. So we'll be on Bill Simmons' podcast today. But on this show, we're going to preview week six of the NFL season. If you're wondering who to start, who to sit, go to fantasyfutball.com. It's fantasy football.3.com. We got our rankings there for each position, but we also, you can do flex.

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Grolebeck on Twitter, DKs, Danny B. Kelly everywhere. And I try to answer starts the questions on Sundays. So with all those plugs out of the way, and very superstitions. Let's go to week six, baby. Hell yeah. It is revenge week. It's crazy.

So we have three offensive coordinators facing their old teams. We have Sunday night football. We got Brian Daibble and the Giants facing the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen, who was mentored by Daibald. We got Monday night football as Kellan Moore, who was the Cowboys offensive coordinator. Now the Chargers offensive quarter facing Mike McCarthy, you kind of maybe shift him out of Dallas. But I don't think this is the game of the week.

But to me, the story of the week entering this week is we have Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots going to Las Vegas to face the Raiders, whose head coach is Josh McDaniels, who served half his life basically under Bill Belichick and the Raiders quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo. Belichick, this is literally like Master versus Appraisals. This is weird. Yeah. It is. And it's like Star Wars. And also,

Mark Davis literally made the Raiders Stadium to be like the Death Star. And like he calls with that. And so the masters as D.K. would say, and the kids, Danny Kelly would say, down bad. Indeed.

Down bad. Patriots, Bill Balochek's coming off the two worst losses of his career. Down atrocious. Down atrocious. Patriots have been outscored 72 to three in their last two games, which is also down atrocious. Not horny. Not horny.

Sad. Yeah. To be clear. Sad and horny. Happy tissues or sad tissues? Gross. That should be a segment. On this,

Pat's her last place in the AFCs, and the Patriots lose this game. There'll be one in five for the first time since 1995, which is the year I was born. Wow. I feel like for this game, this is like tuck rule full circle. The Patriots dynasty started,

like more than 20 years ago, with the Patriots beating the Raiders in the playoffs in the tuck roll game. And now 20 years later, more than 20 years later, you've got Belich playing versus McDaniels and Jimmy Garoppola, who he wanted to replace Tom Brady,

D.K., my question for you, if the Patriots lose this game versus the Raiders and have this full circle tuck rule moment, do you think that we will look back and think of this as the end of the Patriots dynasty? I don't think this game would be viewed as the end of the dynasty.

I think honestly, if five years from now or whatever, if the Patriots kind of crumble from here and Belichick gets fired, which apparently is actually still an option, that could really happen. I think it would just be when Brady left. That's one would probably be it. Is the Patriots dynasty not already over?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It's like this is sort of a new iteration of the Patriots. He's like three games under 500 after Brady left. Like it's over. I guess it's more like when the villain at the end of the movie, like they go under the water. And right now there's still like bubbles coming up though. And this game's like, all right, now there's no more. Proof of death.

Yeah. The other thing that you may have mentioned it, sorry if you already did, but like Jacoby Myers coming back and. revenge against his former team. Oh, sure. This is maybe even more of a revenge because Jacobi Myers clearly pissed off that the Patriots didn't resign him.

And I've seen reports out in the world that he, that Belichick's like, oh yeah, we tried to resign him. And Jacoby Myers' side is like, no, you did not try and resign me. And so I think this is another sort of and it's ironic because the Patriots like by far worst position group is receiver.

So it just doesn't make any sense that they wouldn't re-sign him. It's crazy how bad I think the Raiders are. And then when I think about their offense versus the Patriots offense, I think they're like 10 times better. I'm like, man, the Raiders are a bad team. And I'm like, well, Jimmy Grable's all right. Yeah, Devontey Adams is great. Oh, Josh Jacobs is an awesome

running back. Oh, Jacoby Myers is a really solid number two this year. Oh, they got a good young tie then. I'm like, are they going to kill the Patriots? The Patriots offense, they're dead last and offensive points per game. They're dead last and offensive EPA per drive. In fantasy football, everyone's unplayable.

Ramandre Stevenson's the 26th running back. This is the hardest part of for me. He's behind Tyler L.G. at running back, I have to tell you, he's the running back 26. He would, if Romandre Stevenson was a kicker, he'd be the 26th best kicker. So you could have just been playing a kicker. What? He's just tough.

Question about Romandre, do you think that it gets better or do you think this is more of just, this is who the Patriots are now? Can it get worse? I was going to say. Yeah, it can get worse. They have three points in the last two weeks. They can start playing Zeeke in front of him, I suppose. I think you kind of can't play until it gets better.

I know. I mean, the defense, they lost the two best players. So Christian Gonzalez, a cornerback and Matt Judan are probably both out for the season. But the smoking gun of the pay of Belichick being cooked and like, I've resisted at being like, but the one thing I'll say, because I think my first reaction to the Patriots falling apart was like, yeah, the GM is probably bad. He's still a good coach. Patriots are the worst special teams group in the NFL.

Like he traded up in the fourth round for a kicker and the kickers missed half of his kicks this year. They traded away Nick Folk, who hasn't not missed a kick this year. It's just weird. Terrible vibes. Down bad. Bellichick's getting old, you know?

Slowing down. He's lost it. Well, I was, all right. So I'm worried about him because the other thing, I was talking to Austin Gayle about this. Shout to Austin. He works here at the ring with us. He reminded me that Bill Belichick also broke up with his girlfriend.

So he really is down bad. They've been to, yeah, yeah, he's down bad, down atrocious. And they've been together for 15 years. He's 71, so he's single now. And Austin had this great idea. We got to get Bill Belichick on the Golden Bachelor. Oh my God. Can you imagine?

Can you imagine a worse television program than Belle Belichick? I'm a Golden Badger. The funny thing is, I would watch that. Oh, of course. It would be so terrible, but it would be so good. That's just press conferences, but if they were just like, yeah, no, I really had a great date with Cindy. You know, we had a really good conversation, and she's just like.

What he should do is he should get fired or quit his job as the coach of the Patriots and then join the Golden Bachelor, but instead of a bunch of older ladies trying to date him, it's GMs trying to make him their head coach. I watched that. Oh, for crying out. loud. The golden head coach. Woody Johnson,

just like begging him to coach the chats. Oh my God. All right. The other not quite as titillating as the end of Bill Belichick's career in New England, but probably a way better game is the Chargers playing the Cowboys this week. Yeah.

Telling more. It really is. It really is Revenge Week because I only learned this just by looking it up. I've never seen Friday the 13th the movies because I'm not a huge scary movie guy, but Jason, the, you know, the main villain of the Friday of the 13th franchise, he basically is getting revenge.

That's why he's trying to avenge his mother's death. So it's all about revenge Friday the 13th. Jason Voorhe's just, that's a fun little peg for us. But Kellyn Moore playing the Cowboys, this is like when dad doesn't let you take over the family business, so you leave and start your own. I'm like, I'll show you. Yes. And Kellyn Moore immediately gets to L.A.

almost in San Diego. And the Chargers are one of the best five offensive teams in the league, just like Dallas was in Kellynne Moore was there. The Chargers are fourth and offensive EPA for Drive. They're fifth in points. Herbert's the number one quarterback in fantasy. And Dak Prescott, meanwhile, this year is statistically having the same season as Kenny Pickett. They're having the exact same season,

Dak Prescott and Kenny Pickett. They both have 1,000 yards, five touchdowns, four picks, six and a half yards per attempt. Which is kind of alarming. And if you weren't convinced enough that Kellan, Moore was good for Dallas. Remember last year, Cooper Rush played five games for Dallas last year when Dak got hurt? Dat got hurt week one. Cooper Rush started five games in 2022. Well, Dak has played five games this year for Dallas. Don't say it. Don't say it. Cooper Rush in those five games last year. One, they were four and one. He threw for a thousand yards, five touchdowns, three picks.

This year, Dak Prescott, the three and two, a thousand yards, five touchdowns, four picks. So, uh, Kellyn Moore, man. Pretty good. With that said, don't you guys feel like, Dallas has not played a normal game this year. No. They've run the fewest offensive plays by a wide margin with the game within seven points. Basically, they're either getting killed or killing somebody, so they never play normal football. In the second half this season, Dallas has run zero offensive plays with the score being within seven points. Zero in the second half. Wait. So they have not played competitive football in the third or fourth quarter. Correct.

So it's like, this is why I'm saying you should buy low on Dak Prescott still, because Dallas hasn't played normal football yet this season. They're either getting killed or killing people. I agree with that. I also agree with Tony Pollard too, because Tony Pollard quietly is like right up there in the league lead with touches and he hasn't done much. The Cowboys last year were the best offense in the entire Red Zone period. And this year they're one of the worst.

Like their Redsend offense has been atrocious. And part of that is Mike McCarthy, but also I think Hope they won't, well, not hope. I kind of hate the Cowboys. But I think they'll get better. But they just, it's been. very classic McCarthy offense just stalls in the red zone. Pollard is an interesting story this year in fantasy. So I don't want to give High Fitz credit here.

It pains me, but I think the leg injury that he had actually does matter. He's been so inefficient. He's been wildly inefficient, like literally one of the least efficient running backs in the NFL so far. He's been saved by volume. And actually, he's a positive regression candidate

because he hasn't scored as many touchdowns as he would have been expected to score based on his usage. So he's actually, probably going to do better going forward in terms of fantasy. But if you look at any of like the broken tackle metrics or elusiveness metrics, he's been bottom three basically. So it's wild. I will not take credit because I ended up being like, you know what?

I'm the only person concerned that Tony Pollard broke his like nine months ago and everyone's expecting to be explosive. I'm probably wrong about this. Well, because then we all went on Bill's podcast and Hyvitz was like he's my favorite player in the draft. Exactly. So I'm not I'm not taking credit because I conceded. And by the end of it, we all were like, you know,

Tony Pollard's probably the single best value in drafts. And you know what's ironic? Tony Pollard was basically this like low volume guy behind Zeke Elliott, who's incredibly explosive. Now he gets the job. It's basically Zeke Elliott. Just getting a ton of touches for Dallas and he's not efficient. Now they, we broke him.

I mean, he's, he's doing well, to be clear. But it's, shocking how, like, few tackles he's broken and just how he doesn't look like. Is it shocking? He broke his leg this year. That's, I wish I had stayed on that. He really broke his leg.

It's tough. Yeah. Wait. We can't move on from this yet. Craig mentioned the dad didn't let you inherit the family business. In my, when I grew up, just picturing Michael Bluth. In my town, there were a couple stores.

There was a, like a local, like a deli, and there was also like a local supermarket chain. That was like a family business. And then eventually they were like, there was a split. And then like, I forget what happened exactly. But one branch of the family left off and created their own thing. And so there was like one was the family name markets and the other. Like they had the same name, but they were. technically run by different wings of the family and the people had different opinions about

which was better. Oh, man. Was that, did you guys have a couple, like, local things like that? Because I feel like every town has, like, one or two iconic businesses that split. And then you, like, have to, like, politic about which one do you go to? Oh, yeah, that's a thing. I actually know about a place in New York. When I lives in New York, there's a pizza place in Brooklyn called Juliana's.

And then they're, like, the family split off and started another one. And then, like, the original family member was like, I don't like this new one that we sold out for. So I'm going to go back and start my own. I'm a fan of like local restaurant, local business family drama. There's a TV show in there somewhere. Dude, yeah, like one of them had the better chicken cutlets and then one of them had better other stuff. Did Gordon Ramsey on there. Email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com.

If you have like a local family like small town feud where like you have these different businesses and like whatever the drama is obsessed with it. Okay. Yeah, that's fun. It's like really low stakes succession. I think that's kind of fun. That's what we want. Put that in the subject line, like low stakes succession. That's exactly what we want.

Ringer Fantasy Football GMO.com. Speaking of low stakes, I will say this one's not as fun. It's the Giants Bill Sunday at football. Giants have been in prime time four times in the first six weeks, which... Yikes. Between that and the Jets, getting all these big games because they thought they had Rogers, like, I'm sorry on behalf of New York. Like, I apologize.

We've got to be able to flex these games, folks. NFL, Raj. Figure it out, man. I don't know why they wait so long to flex. just move the games. I have an idea. I have an idea. They should not announce the NFL schedule.

They should take it week by week. It's like a lot of ride. You don't know. Yes, on Sunday night, they announced the schedule for next week. How fun would that be? That would actually be great. One of the best ideas I've ever heard. Let's do that.

Think about the hype that you'd get for maybe they even do it on like Monday morning or something like that. Yeah, you can make a whole thing around it. Yeah. Craig, I think that's the best. idea you've ever had. Because the only reason that's cool about having your schedule is you kind of get excited. I mean, obviously, the NFL would be like how to fans buy tickets in advance.

But whatever. It'd be cooler. Details. We've got to go. Oh, right. The ticket thing. Hmm. The problem is the bad teams wouldn't sell tickets.

That's the problem. But the good teams would be sick. There's something there. It's half-baked. And this is a Kevin Wilde's opinion right now. That's incredible. I'll get there. I'll fully flesh it out next week.

All right. So the Giants are 14-point touchdowns. Craig, you get a... 14 point touchdowns? 14 point favorite, two touchdown underdogs. Whatever. I'm tired. I mean, are they in Costanza? There's a lot of...

There's some kind of ugly matchups for this week. We have the dolphins, basically two touchdown favorites against the Panthers. We have the Eagles playing the Jets. We have the Bills, 14-point favorites against the Giants. And then we have the Niners playing maybe the Deshawn Watson was Browns. The Dorian Thompson Browns? No, not even him. I think a PJ Walker.

They're going to quantum leap PJ. Walker. Yeah, DTR got benched. Practice squad PJ. Man, I mean, is any one of these teams going to make a dent? The only one I was thinking

that there's a possibility is the potential for the Eagles to lose to the Jets. And I know that sounds shocking with Jack Wilson going up against the Eagles D. But this could be a look-ahead game, a look-ahead loss.

The Eagles are playing Miami next week on Sunday night football. And we saw it, there's usually the look-ahead loss or there's the let-down loss. We saw it with Buffalo. Buffalo killed the, Miami, then went to London and lost a weird game to the Jags.

So my only, my only Costanza here is like, okay, could this be a look ahead loss for Philly playing a strong Jets defense? You know, Philly's been 5 and O, but they haven't been the same Philly as they were last year. It's not going to, it can't be the Giants, it's physically impossible. Daniel Jones is out, Darren Waller's out, Andrew Thomas is out. Tara Taylor, he's been kind of, he's been frisky. It can't be the Panthers. I'd be shocked.

I would say it's Browns. Jets. I'm taking the teams with good defenses. I think the Dolphins one feels even harder to me for the Panthers because it's the rookie quarterback versus the dolphins. I will say the only thing I'll say about the Bill's Giants is it would involve Brian Dable jimmying together an offense, but really it's

Brian Dable knowing Josh Allen and knowing his games probably as well as anyone outside of like, there's a chance Brian Dable understands Josh Allen's strength and weaknesses better than anyone in the Bill's organization. And so Wink Martindale whose whole thing is blitzing in ways that break the rules of the offense.

Like, that's his whole thing is we're going to blitz in a way that they can't block us. That, I think, that is the path to the Giants quietly winning. I'm not saying the Giants are going to win. Isn't that always the goal of blitzing, though? To blitz in a way that they can't block us? Isn't that what blitzing is? Yes, but it's, I think Wink Martin Dill is better at it. I think Wink Martin Hill is better than

other guys at blitzing. It's this whole idea. That's like, happy Gilmore. He's like, I'm just going to hit the ball in the hole off the tee. I do that every time. It's so it's easier. I'm just going to sack the quarterback every time. That's true. No, I'm saying that Brian Dable knows the rules, though. Like, Brian Dable, instead of them having to grind tape and be like, hmm, what is the way to break into this?

Brian Dable's, like, here's the combination. Yeah, I think, to be clear, like, what Hifitz is saying is when he talks about rules, it's every offense has like these, like, outlets or whatever. Or red, hot route, hot route, you know, like, Red 7, something that they go to in a certain case. Red seven, if the defense shows you something, here's the rule for the offense where you go to. So I think that's what Hyphins is saying. It's not just like, barely... I don't know what that means. Go stay over there.

Right over to the other side. Just run over there. Or Brian Dable just can find the button on a back of Josh Allen. It's like reset to factory default. And they're like, all right, here we go. He's just back to like their own picks and stuff. I kind of like this actually. I think this would be the fact that it's the wildest,

it's the wildest one and the hardest to envision. Yeah. And you got the backup quarterback coming in. It came back. They flew back from London. They had a flyback from London. And also, to Craig's point, one of these teams will script the three team teaser because there's no way you can

of all these lines by 10 and then like just, oh, so I just bet on the Niners, Bills and Eagles and then I win to win. Like, it's not, that's not how it works. The bills to me are also the team that always loses these random ass games. Yeah. You know? They lost to the Jags. Yeah, that weird Jags lost last year.

Yeah. And like 9 to 6. Like they scored like six points. They were Jags lost last week. Speaking of the, um, the Niners though, the Niners are playing at the Browns this week. And I think this is a fascinating game because you have two of the best defenses in the NFL.

Yeah. But then you have one of the best offenses. in the Niners and one of the worst offenses in Cleveland. And like, there's so much with like Brock Purdy right now and, you know, Stephen Reese's QB rankings that, you know, NFL rankings. Notherner.com and like, you know, been very controversial, but like there's so much talk about Brock Purdy right now.

But I think that this game kind of highlights why Brock Purdy's so valuable and we haven't talked about it enough, which is he's not getting paid anything. Like it's like the performance. It's Brock Purdy, like, so Deshawn Watson's making $46 million a year, right? Do you know Brock Purdy would be the 35th highest paid quarterback? Oh, wait, no, sorry, I have that wrong. Brock Purdy is the 35th highest paid backup quarterback. Wow.

Rock Purdy. Did you get that wrong on purpose to really hammer home the point? Yes, I did. It was 100% meant to do that. I knew it. I appreciate it. Rock Purdy is the 68th highest paid quarterback in the NFL. If you look at just all players, so it's just going average salary.

It's average salary. DeShon Watson, 46 million is top 10 in the NFL. Brock Purdy average salary is not top 1,000. Are the Niners paying Trey Lance still? Yes. I feel like they're paying Trey Lans for. More than Brock, which is wild. Guys, not on their team.

Third string quarterback on the Cowboys or whatever. They're paying a guy not on their team more than maybe the MVP of the league. Brock Party is the 1,240th highest paid NFL player. He is behind Russ Yeast on the ramps. Russ Yeast. Russ Yeast from Russ Yeasts. He played in the 40s. He's not real.

Russ East. Yeah. he was with Dutch and the Chicago Cardinals. Close with Cloyce. Cloice box. So is this the biggest gap? This has to be the biggest gap in quarterback pay among two starting quarterbacks. I guess at Deshaun starts in the history of football, right?

In any game. Oh, yeah. Probably because Brock Purdy has to be the least compensated good quarterback. But here's the thing. I'm stealing an idea or borrowing an idea here from Scott Barrett. Shout out Scott Barrett. He's not going to go as far as to say steal. He's borrowing.

I'll borrow. Yeah, yeah. You'll give it back. Exactly. Scott, don't sue us. I'm going to borrow it and I'm going to clean it. I'm going to give it back. So Scott, thank you for letting us borrow it in exchange. We're going to rename it.

Scott has been calling an EPA per million, which is a great idea of like expected points added per million. We're going to call it instead of EPA per play. We're going to call it EPA per pay, which is how many expected points added are you giving? Why he gets the big bucks, folks? There you go. EPA per pay. Clever dog.

Expected points added. It's like the best that we got. For context here, Deshaun Watson is making $2.5 million a game. Purdy's making $50,000. So it's like a penhouse in Manhattan for Watson every game. And Brock Purdy is getting like a Volkswagen golf. So the Niners, if you go by EPW. Brock Pretty leads the league in EPA per play.

So the Niners are paying $4,000 for every point that Procerties adding, which for context, the Cowboys are paying Dak Prescott $3 million for every point that he's adding to tell us. Think about how hard it is to score points in the NFL. I mean, look at the Patriots, three points in two weeks. They're paid $4,000 per point. And it's not as simple as like Brock gets all the credit. It's really an offensive stat assigned to the quarterback. But regardless, Deshaun Watson's obviously being paid to be like the, you know,

he's not being paid to be the caboose. He's being paid to, like, lead the train. And Deshawn Watson breaks the scale because he's one of the worst quarterbacks by EPA. He is negative 27, expected points added. So that means the Browns are paying to Sean Watson half a million dollars for every point he has subtracted from their season. well, Brock Perry Well, the 49ers are paying

$4,000 for every point Brock Pretty ads. The Brock Pretty thing is actually, you know, from a cap and team building perspective, so interesting and important for them, obviously, because look, they have the best roster in the NFL and now they can kind of keep this thing going for a few years. If Brock Pretty ends up being good, you know,

good enough to like keep, I guess just from not turning into a pumpkin. If he can continue to do this, this is such a just truly massive. you know, advantage for them over their next three, four years. So, yeah, that's another thing. Obviously, we've talked about that, but they can go out and sign guys in free agency. They can keep Brandon

Ayuk around whenever his contract is coming up or Debo Samuel or whoever. It's just pretty crazy from a team building point of view. No, it's just there's zero debate. He's a good value. But Craig, you went on for like two days, and I were like, behind your back. Like, you know what? We're kind of at a pretty now. I mean, look. Craig

leaves and then we just lost our nerve. We're like, fuck it. You guys are in a cult now? What happens if he plays well this week against the Browns? If he plays well this week, I will concede and I will join the Brock Purdy fan club. Look, again, I think Brock Purdy's good. I just don't think we know how good he is. I think he's doing an admirable job in a very, very conducive quarterback-friendly offense.

But they're playing the Browns. I would probably say this is the biggest test of Brock Purdy's career. It probably was Dallas last week, and he was incredible. So it's almost like not fair that I'm like, well, then let me see him do it again. Yeah, exactly. They're not at home this week. By the way, it felt like, is it just me or is it felt like the Niners?

I've played five straight home games. It feels like they're just always at home. I feel like the Niners don't travel. It's always like, wow, the Niners in Santa Clara, it's rocking right now. I'm like, when are they on the road? They actually, I think they have the most travel miles of the year on the season. That's why they give them the home strand to start. The irony here, too, is like their home teams or home games are not even really home games.

It's like an hour from where they're actually supposed to be located. I know, Santa Clara is. I also make up for 2020 when they, to finish the season, they were like, yeah, you guys have to like stay in Arizona for three weeks. Craig, because of the law change. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. Your county.

Craig, I don't know if you ever listened to this because it's probably, it's way before your generation. But Adam Sandler, when I was growing up, had CDs where he had like these comedy albums. And this one that I constantly think of, I still like played in my head is he's trying to convince his friend to join a religious cult. It's like just the whole skin is him being like, come on, man, join this religious cult with me. It's going to be awesome.

And I'm just like, that's how of me in Hypatts are right now with you. Yeah, but that's like if it was awesome. Just join this cult. Just join this religious cult. It is awesome. Once you get here, it's amazing, man. Like the food is good. Like the parties are awesome.

Just join this religious cult with me. Yeah, I might. I might. I'm thinking about it. So, I mean, look, they're in Cleveland. Cleveland has been awesome this year. I saw a stat. The Niners have scored on a league high,

53% of their possessions. So over half their possessions, they score a point, which is quite impressive. The Browns are basically the best at the opposite. They give up the least amount of points per processions. Only 17% of processions are scoring. So this is a little bit of a immovable object meets an unstoppable force.

Also, Kyle Shanahan against Jim Schwartz, who's the defensive coordinator for the Browns. Oh, yeah, this is a good one. They've played nine times. Shanahan's one and eight against Jim Schwartz. And he scored over 20 points one time. I love these little mini storylines where the coaches have rivalries because it's so hard to explain how that works. it is, it honestly kind of goes back to what hyphins was saying, where you can kind of break the rules of what the team's offense or defense does. So this to me is a very interesting wrinkle in this whole thing.

And also might be a rainy day in Cleveland. Not that that is a huge deal, but it could be the weather. It's been raining all week in Cleveland. So it could be like a muddy, rainy, messy game. So, you know, we'll see. It's always in Cleveland. What the fuck is going on in Cleveland? What's up with the weather there?

Dude, it really is. Why do people live there? Whoa. That's the most coastal elite thing. Oh, my God. I'm just saying, like, I thought the plane Wi-Fi for 10 minutes is that. 79% of the terrible weather games

over the last five years have been in Cleveland. What the fuck is going on with this place? Plain Wi-Fi is not coastal elite. I don't know what the answer is. You want to know the answer? The answer is the largest freshwater reserve on Earth is the Great Lakes, which is allowing all you guys on the West Coast

to live in your desert, drought, water deserted places. Have you been to Washington? All right, yeah, not you. Craig. I was mad at Craig that you said. I'm like, whatever. We provide the entire country with nuts, fruits and veggies. What's Seattle known for?

Yeah, Seattle, you have the radius place. That's true. Can I note, wait, I want to note something real quick. In the airplane internet debacle, in the breakout, somebody commented on this, and this is really funny, I missed this. As we're all arguing, I said something, I'm like, you know, this plane is so expensive,

and if you're going to offer a product, you should, you know, it should work. And then Hyvet yells, build your own then? And then somebody commented, build your own what? An airplane? Is that what Hyvins is suggesting that if you're not satisfied, you should build your own airplane? It's 100% the foundation of his argument. We should just be happy that they're building planes for us. For us, yep.

Build your own then. Build your own, Cleveland. Jesus. I hear good things about Cleveland. I've never been my sister-in-laws from Cleveland and my other sister-in-law also went to school in Cleveland. So I got a lot of Cleveland ties. You know what, city?

This is totally completely fucking random. Sorry, and I apologize. But you know what city to me has the biggest gulf between, like, name and reputation and actual beauty is Milwaukee. I don't know. Like Milwaukee to me seems like a cool place. It's like right on the water. I don't know anything else about it other than what I've seen in movies.

But it seems like a cool place. What movies feature Milwaukee? Mr. 3000? Bridesmaids. When I watched Bridesmaids, I was like, I would to live in Milwaukee. I'm moving to Milwaukee. It's probably not even fucking filmed there. This is such a good take.

No, it's probably not. It's probably filmed in Vancouver, but anyway. It's probably Vancouver. I think you were going to say travel there and had a good time. You're saying you've never been there? No, I've never been there. What's? I'm saying this is a theory.

I'm not even saying it's my take. I think Cleveland is another one of those, though, where the reputation is, there's a big gap between, like, reputation and actual experience. I think people like living in Cleveland. I hear Cleveland's nice. Do you know how many ghosts are probably just screaming at us right now about various? Well, we're being positive, at least, right? Let's do a show where we go and check out.

Craig, I think I'm actually with you that Cleveland's probably a really great place to live. And it has a terrible reputation. I don't know why. Yeah. Anyways, I'm moving to Milwaukee. I'm like freaking looking at Redfin. Redfin Milwaukee and checking things out, you know. Damn, no Zillow?

You Redfin guy? Yeah, I'm a Redfin guy. You know, it's like Google versus Bing or Duck, Duck, Go. So you're saying Redfin is the Milwaukee of home aggregator sites. Yes. Underrated. Can't even imagine being Zillow guy. That's weird.

It's definitely the larger company, isn't it? I think the Zillow guy was like an investment banker who bailed from like J.P. Morgan or something and made Zillow. Just fuck the lemons in bail. You know. Yeah. Anyway, people from Milwaukee, let me know. What's it like there? I kind of want to move there.

Anyway, Purdy in Cleveland. You need a version of Zillow where you can swipe like the dating apps. Oh, for homes? Yeah. This is going to be part of cringe or app that lets you change your life and leave your family and move to a new city. It's going to help you choose the cities by swiping. Yeah, we're going to headquarter cringe in Milwaukee. Hold on.

One more thing about this game. We're talking about the 49ers playing. the Browns, by the way, if anybody forgot. Miliwake. Years ago. Do you guys think that there's some weird vibes right now with what's going on with Deshaun Watson? This is a weird situation, I feel like.

He was medically clear. To recap kind of what happened, two weeks ago, he's medically cleared, according to Stefanski, the coach. But then before the game, he basically told the team he wasn't ready to play. And Svansky sort of backed him up and said he knows his body, knows whether he can play or not. And then after being, like, quote unquote, medically cleared for the game, he said, out the whole bye week and he's still not practicing

and he's not playing probably this week. I don't know. It's just weird. What's going on here? I will say this. The thing that you just described where the head coach and also coaches are always 90% of the time know are being somewhat intentional with their words. A coach saying that a player has been medically cleared

to play and it was his decision to sit. And then two weeks later the player is still like not playing. That is very rare but almost always someone who's unhappy with their contract. Right. A player like Deshaun Watson who's definitely happy with his contract because he's the best contract in history. Yeah.

I actually can't think of another situation. I can't think of another situation where something like that's happened. I know. And honestly, because when you said, when you described what Stepansky did, to me, I'm like, the reading between the lines is like the coach is kind of throwing the player under the bus a little bit here. Because he's like, yeah, he was cleared. He just decided he couldn't go. Whereas like a coach, if he's trying to protect his players, like, yeah, we, you know,

we warmed up before the game. We just decided he wasn't ready to play, you know. You know what? It's the last time I heard stuff like this, about a quarterback was Andrew Luck. The team was like pressuring him to go out. Yeah. Yeah, about whether he could play for your quarterback.

That's, I don't know. That's not normal, man. That's weird. Maybe it's nothing. Maybe he just, you know, maybe it's nothing. I don't know. It just feels kind of a little bit off to me. But we'll see what happens with this.

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at sportsbook.fandal.com. Speaking of guys who are not practicing, Justin Jefferson, placed on injured reserve, D.K. There's so much to talk about this. Just for this week with, like, fantasy, what do you think the Vikings offense is without Jefferson?

Worse? All right. What's next? Moving on. How about this? How about this, D.K. Going forward in fantasy, to spin this to fantasy football a little bit. Jordan Addison or KJ. Oz rest of season.

Addison for me. I think there is this thought that KG. Osborne is going to take over the quote-unquote like Justin Jefferson role in the offense, which I think is probably true from a schematic point of view. But I think based on what we're hearing and based on just like the talent gap between the two players, it's probably going to be the Addison show going forward.

Or I think I hope it's going to be the Addison show, certainly. Their coach O'Connell came out in an oppressor the other day. And I'm just going to read his quote because it makes me excited. He goes, he was one of my favorite players I evaluated. in the draft. Since then, it's been positive after positive, outside of driving a little fast one time. And if you remember before the season,

he got like reckless driving or something? A speeding ticket? Yeah. He goes, my expectation is we hit the gas with Jordan this weekend, no pun intended. So to me, it seems like he's set up,

he set it up to indicate that they're going to, like, feature him in this offense, which is cool because he really hasn't been playing like a full complement of snaps so far this year. He's only averaging 67% snaps through five games. So I think that's probably going to tick up to closer to 90 to 100 this year or going forward. And so I think you can see his volume increased. I think he's a really good player.

He's certainly got some, you know, I think like deficiencies in certain areas. I was looking at the Matt Harmon reception, reception. He's still struggling with physical press coverage, which is like a little bit concerning. But I think they could move him around, get him off the line scrimmage, get him down into routes. Kind of like you see the Dolphins do with like a Tyree kill type of player. And so overall, I'm pretty excited about what we see. I do think overall the offense is not going to be nearly as good. There's going to be more three and outs.

It's obviously not going to help that he has, that Addison doesn't have the advantage of Justin Jefferson being doubled on almost every, you know, single play. But one more thing to add for the fantasy points date I saw, Addison, after Justin Jefferson went out, got 35% of the first read targets for the team. So Kirk Cousins is looking for Jordan Addison first, more than any of the other players on this offense.

So I think that's like a big deal going forward. What do we think the odds are here that, like, let's say the Vikings are decent in Osborne, Addison, Hawkinson, all have solid days for a couple weeks. Should they all be sell highs because Kirk Cousins might not be on this team by the end of the season? Ooh. Yeah. Probably. Hi, Fitzh, you've been on this train.

Do you think Kirk Cousins to New York, Kirk Cousins to Atlanta in season seems, feels like the Jets are the one spot he would possibly go to? and the Vikings full tank, they get a top two pick in the draft. Do you feel like that's likely or possible? I mean, let me flip the question on you. Kirk Cousins is his contract voids after the season. So even if he leaves in free agency,

that means the Vikings wouldn't even get a compensatory pick in the draft. So my question is, if the Vikings are one and four, let's say they lose to the Bears this week. We both those teams are one and four. We have a tank off. If the Vikings lose this game and are one and five, why should they keep Kirk Cousins? And not just go for a quarterback in the draft.

I honestly like, why would you keep Kirk Cousins? Flip him. Yeah. I keep going back to the fact their GM has like multiple times told the media that they're not really that excited about him. You know what I mean?

He's 34. Typically front offices will be very political about that. You know, like we love our guy. Blah, blah, blah. They're like, yeah, we recognize he's probably not going to be like our long term starter. Jesus. Yeah.

I think this the moment that after they went, what did they go, 12 and 4 last year, whenever, when Kirk Cousins checked down on third and 10 in the playoffs, I think they were like, that was the ick. We can't go back. We can't go back from that. It's like, you know, you ever seen a guy like chase a ping pong ball? I said, I said high fits a video of a girl, someone on Instagram. Like, this is my new ick.

It was like a guy looking through one of those like binocular things that they have set up at, you know, tourist spots. Like the Empire State building? Yeah, exactly. He's just like gripping like the pole. It's just like the most awkward looking thing I've ever seen.

It's weird. You have to really straddle that thing. It's not really the most well built. Yeah. It's like a weird height. You have to kind of like bend down. Anyways, that's that's the new checking down. Guys sliding into a booth.

Ick. My favorite that was where the guys wear the little cape. the haircut. We're a little cape. A little cape. Or like a guy's haircut mid haircut. It looks really weird.

Oh, God. That's the worst. Yeah. Yeah. No, the Kirk Cousins, I really think the Bears Vikings, whoever wins this game,

it's like, this is like quietly huge. It's like the Jets don't have Trevor Lawrence because they won a random game in December. But like the Vikings Bears, like they, whoever loses this game has the, you know,

man, the sliding doors thing, I don't even know what to call it. The sliding door is scenarios. They beat the Rams in December. It's just so wild. The Rams that lost a random game. The Rams were Super Bowl.

That might have been the year the Rams won the Super Bowl. Or no, I guess it wasn't. But I can't remember. It all blends together. Essentially, like, the Jets were on pace to be the number one pick and get Trevor Lawrence. And then they won some random pointless fucking game. And now look at what happened. Think about several years later.

They also, this is what happened. They passed up three first round picks to take Zach Wilson, which we don't talk about enough. Like they could have just taken the 90s trade. Yeah. Okay. Brutal. Yeah, I think there's a chance, however, small,

small chance, but there's chances. This is Kirk Cuson's last game in Minnesota, and they just trade it to this week. But we'll see. All right. Next up here, D.K. Yo. Give us another, like, award for...

So I was looking at the old schedule here. The Astro Glide matchup of the week, week. The Panthers versus the Dolphins and I call it the Astroglide. Trademark, can we get a sponsor here? Astroglide as you're listening. Speaking of free advertising, Craig loves free advertising. I do. Astroglide. The coefficient

of friction is zero with Astroglide. And speaking of that, it's the Dolphins run game versus the Panthers run defense. The top ranked rush offense in the NFL in DVOA in the Dolphins. They have the league best 12 touchdowns. They lead the league in rushing

yards. And they lead the league in rushing yards per attempt. They're absolutely deadly on the ground. And the Panthers, one of the worst run defenses in the NFL, the worst, according to DVOA, they've given up nine rushing touchdowns. They're 28th in yards per attempt, 26 and yards per game.

There's just no friction here. The Panthers are going to provide no friction. It's just, I don't even know what that's called. The coefficient of friction is zero. It's just no, you know, slide in and slide out. That's actually amplified. Wow.

like you weren't even there. I turned it sexual. I got sex. Truly, truly, truly, like, speechless about this.

What is like, we just, we upgraded the Mario card rainbow strip to the Astroglide, frictionless matchup of the week. I couldn't be happier with it. The frictionless matchup of the week. No friction. I just,

like, from a physics point of view, I mean, interested in this game, you know? Like, could the dolphins just keep running forever? So this is really like,

The Panthers are just NFL lube is what we're saying. Yes, pretty much. That's what I'm saying. Slip and slide. Okay, I guess we're moving on since you guys don't have anything else to say. I'm really sad that Devon A-Chate is not going to be in this game, by the way. Yeah, that's awful. Him going on IR is just like a real gab to the heart.

Yeah. Yes. Yeah, poor one out. for A-chan, like pour out your beer, pour out your Astroglide, whatever, just pour some out. Do you guys think Jeff Wilson, if Jeff Wilson plays, I think they activated him and it's like his 21-day window

to return. But like, do you think whoever replaces A-chan is going to like kind of be an immediate starter in fantasy football? Or do you think this is just going to go back to being the Rahim Moster's show until A-Chance comes back? I have, what do you think, I have thoughts, but I think the latter,

I think more close to the where it's going to be the Mostert show as long as he's healthy and, you know, playing, which, of course, you know, he could always get hurt because, you know, looking at his histories, had a history of injuries. But I think what we saw in week one is basically it was all Mostert and then a little bit of, I think it was Svon Ahmed. And then they switched things up and Svon Ahmed was got hurt. Then he was a healthy scratch, I believe.

So it's kind of hard to read what's going to happen here. I do think Jeff Wilson is going to be involved. And I think you could probably start him as a flex, but I think you could. you have to temper your expectations a little bit. It's not going to be A-chain. He's not going to be, like, you know, running all over the field. I think he's more just a change of pace physical guy compared to Rahim Moster. So I would say Mostert, this is the biggest advantage goes to Mostert.

And then I think Jeff Wilson becomes, like, potentially a flex. But I wouldn't be too too excited about it. How do you feel, Hyvitz? I think Mostert certainly is top top top, honestly, probably top five running back, like every single week. Obviously, it sucks H. It's an injury reserve. Like Craig's nickname for the podcast. which we should improve,

but he is going at like 1.2, 1.5 speed. So no one's going to be as good as Achan. So he's got, but here's the thing, what has A. What has A.C.N. been a top three running back.

Right. Since this is, it's been like McAfrey and then like Devin, Devon A. And Rehomostit. So if he's out, yeah, none of these guys are going to be that. But we'll talk about which guy it's going to be.

Maybe they do a rotation. But I guess I'll start with this to answer your question. If I told you, a dolphin's running back, we'll get what A chin got, which is 10 to 12 touches a game. 10, maybe even eight. Or hey, Chuba Hubbard's going to get 14.

What do you want? Dolphins. You want the dolphins guy. It doesn't matter. So it's like I would play him. The question's who. Obviously there's a chance that, you know, there's so many times where there's a bad team with a bad backfield of three guys.

And you're like, you don't want any of these guys. Like what, you know, but like the bears before the bears started playing well was like, oh, Herbert and Rocha. I don't know with fields running. The dolphins is the opposite. But I think Jeff Wilson is like the safer one of like Jeff Wilson has the history. He's been a goal line back for the Niners. He's been a goal line back for McDaniel when McDaniel plucked him from San Francisco. However, I'm curious, I think the guy that, if you told

me in December, market corrected, like, Devon A-chan, I think Chris Brooks is good. Chris Brooks is like an undrafted free agent. And Salvonne Ahmed is already hurt. Jeff Wilson is like, frankly, I love Jeff Wilson, but he's never been super healthy. I kind of think, Rahim Moster doesn't have a Sterling Health record. I kind of think Chris Brooks could be like a league winner. Chris Brooks has to me like... What's his 40 times? 3-9? I don't know. He's on the Dolphins. No, but he's like a big guy. I'm going to try and find this. I know nothing about Chris Brooks

for the record. Wow. If D.K. knows nothing about Chris Brooks. I think he's, I mean, to be clear, I don't want to sell him like he's some guy. He didn't go drafted. But I think Chris Brooks, he had like eight carries to 66 yards or nine carries 66 yards against the Broncos, which should have a giant. We should cut that in half because it was the Broncos. But I just, I don't know. I kind of think he might be the last guy standing here. But I don't know if you necessarily have to add him yet.

I want to throw that out. Do you know where he went? BYU. He went to, no. BYU? BYU. But that's six time up when I know about him. He's solid.

So he played for Cal originally. I'd still take Jeff Wilson over him to start, but. But like if he has 10 carries for 75 yards next week, he's going to be probably like the top waiver acquisition. Yeah, a lot of people shout us out like for deeper league stuff because like, you know, we talk about like a Rocheon Johnson, but sometimes be, if you're in a deeper like a 12 that's like has a deep bench and all the running backs are gone or 14, I'm like that's the guy. Stashe.

Yeah, it's like there's not many guys that have like that upside. And that's really kind of that's the thing. He's like he could be literally worthless. But I think he's solid. I also, what we're talking about pouring one out for HN though? I want to just, there's so many randos, spit Chris Brooks. Like that's a real who that is. There's so many rant like who that is guys replacing.

I mean, we have Chris Brooks I'm out here shouting out of Chris Brooks who D.K. has never heard of for like Devani Chan. I mean, I've heard of him. I just know nothing about it. Well, it's like almost worse. It's like you learned his name and we're like, I don't even want to learn anything. Gardner Minshu is replacing Anthony Richardson

who's also an IR which sucks and like how much more unwatchable and boring are the cults now. It was bad enough to deal with Jonathan Taylor being usurped by Zach Moss and knowing what to do with them. But now we've Minshue having a very boring revenge game against the Jaguars. We're talking about KG Osborne and Ben Powell.

Brandon. Brandon Powell. Brandon Powell. It's ironic that you got the name wrong because no one knows who this guy is. Yeah, Ben Powell. He's a, he's famous. He used to be on the Rams. I confused.

Oh, yeah. Small guy. And then the one guy who's famous, though, is we have the, I mean, that needs no introduction to Marri Demarcato and Keonti Engram replaced James Connor. Of course. Who's also out with an injury. Probably one of the cooler names. Amari Demarcato?

It's a very cool name. Kianti Ingram is a cool name too. I think what do we do with this backfield? We let it die. I think we leave it alone. Let them fight. It's like the gods. It's like them fight.

I think I still, even though Keonté Ingram is back, I think I still mean demarcato because he's going to be more involved in the passing game. I agree. I think you can play him if you have to. He's fine.

They asked him like about, I don't know, what is being started running back? He's like, yeah, everyone's like, telling me their play they added me to their fantasy team and I'm like okay thanks Kai just said go frogs he was the backup TCU running back demarcato Kai can you jump in here real quick and tell us give us give us one piece of information

about DiMarcato yeah of course I'd love to talk about my guy Amari demarcato yeah he was kind of like this speedy I mean you mentioned a decay you know back up to Kendrae Miller change of pace guy a great one two punch in that offense last season when you know we made it to the national championship do you think think he's better than Keiote Ingram? I don't know much about Keiante Ingram at all. So hopefully he's better than Keanu I don't know. He scored a touchdown last week, didn't he?

So that's cool. He did. He did. While Kai's here talking about T.C. Do you remember the time you drove down to watch to Los Angeles to watch T.C. play the championship game? And not only lose 70s. You sat at an inside indoor stadium and it rained on you even though you were indoors. Doesn't ring a bell actually. Like, I don't, yeah. No. Is T. Is T.C. even playing this year? I'm not sure. I don't know.

I don't think they are. I think the last thing I remember is we were in a national championship, and then everything's just been a blur since then. How's Max Duggan doing? Max Duggan got drafted by the charters, then was cut by the chargers, and then brought back to the practice squad. So I think he's doing great, question mark. Yeah, sure.

This is like the high-fitts is the Chris Farley School of interviewing. Hey, hey, do you remember when you were with the Beatles? No, it just hurt people That was awesome It's just like Yeah, it's the bizarreo Chris Farley I've always wanted Sean Fennacy to do that When he interviews like really famous director

It's like Martin Scorsese And he's like How tall is Leo Between two ferns Yeah Is De Niro nice That's cool I have one time

So you really like cocaine Craig, one time this is years ago back in the day my co-host and I for an old podcast interviewed Jeff Schaefer who is the director of he he does like

he did Euro Trip was like one one of my favorite. Doesn't he do curb Jeff Schaefer? Yeah, he does curve the league. The league a whole bunch of stuff but the reason we had him is because he's a Seahawks fan and he emailed us and was like hey blah blah blah love love your work plug but we

interviewed him and the interview was 100% me just being like, hey, remember in Euro Trip when you had Matt Damon? It was me just saying the things that I thought were funny from his movie. It was like the worst interview. He was, you know, he's a great sport and great guy

but that just reminded me that. Well, we got to get Adam Sandler on or Owen Wilson on for happy Gilmar wedding crashes and we'll just yell quotes at them for an hour. Hi Fitz, you interviewed Jeff too? I interviewed, yeah, I read about Lil Dickie. I'm actually excited in Lil Dickie's Wikipedia. if you go to Lil Dickie

and there's like a section of Wikipedia that's like the exact condition medical condition little dicky has for his penis I am the citation from my period interview that's my commitment to the world your parents are so proud

I am the source so that's my claim to fame but yeah I talked to Jeff Schaefer he called Dave Bird Lil Dicky he called him like a piece of broccoli that had a bar mitzah So back to football.

Dick, I have a question for you. Seahawks Bengals playing this week. This is actually, I think, one of the more fun games of the week. Yeah, this is a big game. I'm just confused. I think this fun game. Both quarterbacks are hobbled. Burroughs, the calf injury is getting better.

Gino had the ankle injury. He was really mad at the Giants about. So he's probably still questionable. So he's probably going to play. T. Higgins has hurt. He's got a rib injury. We'll see if he play. If you have T.Egan's a fantasy, you have to play him.

And if he plays, obviously. But I love this match. these are probably two of the best skill groups in the entire NFL between Chase and Higgins and, you know, Tyler Board and Joe Mixin and the Seahs have, you know, Ken Walker. They have D.K. Metcalfe, Lockett and Jigbill. Like, this is skill groups incredible. This is a fun game. And the Bengals are giving two and a half points and they're at home. So two and a half points less than a field goal.

It's an even match. I get that. Here's where I'm confused. The last time the Seahks played was Monday night football against the Giants. And you guys were down both your starting tackles and both your starting guards. And to my knowledge, none of those guys are just magically healthy now. It's Thursday morning. We don't know the practice situation yet of who might play.

He was practicing, but limited, I want to say. So even if they're playing, they're banged up, literally both tackles, both guards. Why should I, and the Bengals defense, I think their defense of one of the strengths of the defense. Why should I not bet on the Bengals giving less than a field goal at home against a team with four of their five linemen binged up? I mean, I think the only question is like, can the Bengals keep doing what they did last week against? Yeah, I think it's just, was that a fluid? or not against the shitty Cardinals team. Didn't Burrow look better though?

The whole problem was Burrow couldn't move and you watched him. He was clearly better last week, wasn't he? Yes, yes. I think, I mean, I don't have a huge problem with you saying that. I think you're right. Like, the Seahawks are on the road. You're going up against a really good offense. I think the Seahawks defense is still pretty unproven.

Though there are some positive signs, like with Devon Wetherspoon has looked awesome, by the way. The Seahawks's Rookie Corner. He's been just all over the place. They're getting Jamal Adams back this week in theory, so that could, like, give them a boost. but overall, you know, I don't necessarily blame you for that. I do think this is a great matchup, though.

Like two, it's like two similar teams, actually, in a lot of ways. I mean, I think Joe Burrow healthy is better than Gino Smith. But right now, I think Joe Burrow is just the big question mark. I think it's because, like, what, the Seahawks are a team that has lost to only the Rams this year, week one. I mean, they beat the Lions. They're putting up like 30 points a game. And the Bengals outside of a Cardinals win, you know, have been the worst office. in the league.

So I think Vegas is just tempering expectations with them. Yeah. I guess my, I think I'm maybe more on this because I just, as a Giants fan, was so intently watching the Seawks game. And I know that Seahawks game, the Giants played horribly is 24 to 3 is embarrassing.

But, like, Giants' defense shut the Seahawks down. I know it was 24 points, but the Seahawks had a pick six. And they also had so many turnovers. The Seahawks had one play. They had a 75-year touchdown where Noah Phant broke a bunch of tackles. Outside of that one play,

the Seahawks couldn't move the ball in the Giants. All their scoring was because they got put in scoring position by their defense. But I don't know. The difference, if the Giants in that game had had the Bengals offense, I'm like the Giants might have won that game. They're themselves 24 to 3. The Seahs always win ugly, I feel like.

They do. This is kind of their thing. That's true. I think when you say that, Heifitz, like I watched a game on replay when I was in Greece. And I was like, yeah, the CX didn't really play that well, but they still dominated. This is, but like, this goes back 10 years with Pete Carroll.

Like he doesn't, he's not the type of coach who's just going to have his foot on the gas the whole game. Does that make sense? He doesn't believe in a margin of victory, honestly. Like he doesn't believe in margin of victory at all. Yeah. I think the way he sees it is like if we get more turnover than the other team, the vast majority of the time we're going to win. And he doesn't like, he doesn't want to like, there was a famous play, actually.

This just reminds me. There's a famous. Was it at the end of a Super Bowl? It was in the playoffs. I can't remember exactly what game it was. I think it maybe was the Super Bowl. And it was Marshawn Lynch begging Pete Carroll for them to keep playing, keep scoring.

He's like, can we keep scoring? Can we keep scoring? Because so many games, the Seahawks essentially just like want to have the lead and then protect the football. Like that's all they care about. They're not trying to like score more points. Literally like sometimes their goal is not necessarily to score more points.

It's it drives Seahawks fans crazy because they'd rather protect the football than score points. Does that make sense? And so I think sometimes Pete Carroll takes his foot off gas in that sense just because he wants to protect the football because he thinks if you have turnovers, you know, especially if you have more turnovers than the other team, you're going to lose more often than not. And so I don't know what I'm even talking about. But like that I think was why it was so ugly against the Giants is because they had to lead and they're just not pushing it.

That's such an old school line of thinking. That's like your grandfather being like, I like my CDs and you're like, no, grandpa, you can stream any song you want. And he's like, I like it the way I like it. The CDs, these things are much more reliable than MP3s are streaming. Thanks, Grandpa. Graemeh, we can score more points. No, winning by 10 is fine. Winning by three is all we need. You just need to win by one, really, Craig.

But yeah, I think I just like love that Marchion interaction because it's so just a window into like the mind of Pete Carroll. Marshaun Lynch is begging him to score more points. Can we keep scoring points? Can we keep scoring points? The entire time you were saying this was the thing about Marshall Lynch wanted to go in the game at the end of the Super Bowl, the Patriots.

I'm sorry. It's like all I could think about. to go in the game. He was in the game. He just didn't get the football. Fair. I know. Just painted an image with him on the sideline. I mean, that was a pivotal moment. Pivotal moment. Let's let's talk about that. You could argue it destroyed the Seahawks dynasty. Yeah, great. I love it. I love thinking about that. Definitely did. All the Seahawks would argue that. Okay. So fantasyfutball.com, all your start sick questions. We have our rankings there.

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Who are you like your star or your scrubs? What are you building your team around this week? My star is Mr. Astroglide himself, Rahim Moster. Jeez. No friction at all. Frictionless for him. And then, I don't know, I like the Jags this week. I'm doing a lot of, like, Jags stacks.

I'm doing like Trevor Lawrence and Calvin Ridley with Evan Ingram. I think the Jags are still very underrated. Lawrence has been really good. Positive regression. And the fantasy points haven't been there. Yeah. And Evan Ingram has been really close to like three touchdowns this year. So he's well priced as a tight end.

So I'm doing Lawrence Ingram stack. I've got Ingram too, Craig. Nice. Nice. My star this week is going to be Cooper Cup. Just want to see him get back to the Cooper Cup we know and love. Like we saw in the first quarter of the last game. And then he stopped catching passes like for a while.

I just do that the whole game, though. what I want. So I'm going to Cooper Cup. They are playing the Cardinals. And then my scrub this week, Josh Downs for the Colts rookie receiver, only 5,600. And he, I think especially when Minchu is in, he's like Minchu's security blanket over the middle of the field. So I like that one. This is going to be the best or worst roster I've ever made. And I say that because this is the fastest I've ever made a team on Fandle. Like, you know, I spent all my money. Like, you know, you get 50 grand to build the lineup. And sometimes you have like a few hundred bucks left. and you want to like maximize it.

I've built this team in like 50 seconds. I spent all my money and it just felt like destiny. I just, so the Rams, they're playing, as Deka said, Cardinals this week. The Cardinals' cornerbacks are atrocious. And the Rams are basically giving like two thirds

of their passing game to Cooper Cup and Pooka Nukuoka. I was like, I don't want to overthink it. My quarterback is Stafford and I'm stacking him with Cooper Cup and Pooka. Hell yeah. Just say, and then the Cardinals are going to get blown out. And then I think they're going to come back. And so I have Demarcato, the running back, Mr. TCU, change your pace.

as the past catching guy just like, rocking up catches and maybe a guard. And also have Zach Ertz. He's like pretty cheap and tight end. I'm like,

I kind of think those dudes might be the leading receivers for the Cardinals in a Rams Cardinals battle. And then coming back, I was just like, dude, I have the dolphins the same thing.

Instead of Mr. Astroglide, I have Mr. backup Astroglide. Chris Brooks, that's my like sneaky scrub. Wow. You're going to be playing is my question. I love this.

I don't know. It's Thursday. Literally he might be a healthy scratch. He literally might be a healthy scratch. And I might be screwed. But I think Chris Brooks is the guy where I'm like, all right, that's the piece that no one will have. There you go.

And I put him with Tyree Kill to, I just think they've destroyed the Panthers. And then coming back around, I don't know, man. I'm at him feeling. Just like Panthers playing catch-up with the Rams. There you go. And so I feel way too good about it. So I think I'm going to come in Laster first. Panthers playing catch-up with the dolphins.

Yes. So I feel an entire kill for that reason. I see we both have the Texans playing the Saints. We both like the Texans defense today. It just seemed fine. Yeah. They were there. My star player is probably the Eagles defense.

Let's be honest. Like playing the Jets and Zach Wilson. Like I feel like they could score the most on my entire roster. I was going to do that. And then I was like, I feel like everyone's going to do that. Like that you have to kind of galaxy brain yourself. Yeah, but if they put up 30 points, like,

that's a good point. Like last week with A-chan was like the most rostered player. And he also was on all the winning deeps. That's why I don't overthink. I pick two dolphins every week. It's a rule of mine. That is a true thing, I believe, for DFS a lot of the time that, The winning lineup is one of the most copied.

You don't always have to two Galaxy brand it. Probably note I should give myself. All right. That's what we got. Fantasyfuthorner.com for your start sit rankings. Email to ringer fantasy football at Gmail.com. The low stakes local succession stories. Want all your low stakes succession stories.

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scenes, thank you, Jack. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, Nate Dog. Nice. Nice. Fun story about Nate Dogg. Yeah, RIP. We were at our junior prom in high school, and they were playing a Nate Dog song. And one guy who was a senior was a junior promis. Maybe?

Well, yes, usually the case of high school dances. Nate Dog song comes on. a senior who I won't name gets on stage. He had been drinking a little bit. I know it's in high school, but that's how it goes. Illegals the microphone from like the DJ and yells Nate Dog, rest in peace motherfucker. And they basically after that like raided all of our buses and found that there was alcohol everywhere. And it was like a huge deal and it like ruined our prom.

And we hated this senior for ruining our prom. Wow. Party foul. Yeah. That's funny. He's just that guy forever. Just go through your whole career. God, dude,

high school dances. Just the weirdest things in the world. Nick Dog, though, one of the, one of the silkiest voices. Oh, yeah. In rap. The Till I collapsed chorus is one of the best ever.

He was, yeah, he just like, I was looking at his Wikipedia. He was called the King of Hooks. It's so true. Like, just how many songs he just comes in and just,

what is it, Craig? The Dion Waiter. just fucking shoots threes. He is the Deon Waders of songs. Maybe a chorus is too much for Deon Waders. I don't know. Well, sure. Frank's the expert.

Next episode, he's incredible. Smoke weed every day. Yeah. That's true. I think all those short things, those live on like first vines and now like TikToks and all these like short stuff. Like that stuff still like we'll live forever. That became like a game.

Like it was like you try to figure out when the smoke weed every day would come in. Yeah. that's funny ain't no fun man i love vine vines are the best there's like instagram and ticot accounts dedicated to just playing old vines that went like is that right yeah

god they fuck they screwed up vines so badly man vine walk so ticot could run they do you know Elon Musk fought twitter one of the first things he asked the engineers is like i want to make it vine make it like vine and they had to explain to him that the source code for Vine was like in the public domain now so instead of paying $44 billion for Twitter

he could have just made Vine for free it was like week one well not the same thing right you don't have the baked in you know millions hundreds of millions of users right no but you want to spend like all $200 of your budget for McCaffrey and like hey you could have just had A-Chad for like nothing

I guess that's my favorite My favorite vine, my favorite vine is, there's two. Have you seen the one of the guy pushing in all the ducks at the, at the store, all the ducks that make the dog, the dog toy? It's like one duck and it squeaks and they pushes in 200 ducks in a basket at the same time. Oh, yes, that's like a hell hell like demon sound. It's like all 200 ducks crying in unison.

Yeah. The rubber ducks, yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. Were they ducks or they chickens? Were they those rubber chickens? I don't know. Whatever they are.

It's like 200 of them at the same time. My other one, my favorite genre of video in the world is, have you ever people who like have dogs in like in on their chest like riding a bike and they have the dog like a baby and the dog thinks they're walking? So it's dogs like trying to walk while they're just floating in the air. I like when people hold dogs over a pool and the dogs kind of. think if we start to paddle. This is like the good internet content.

This is why the internet remains wholesome internet. Yeah. Send us more wholesome internet videos. Emails or your fancy football, Gmail. Send us wholesome media. The internet produces some weird fucking shit. Like the other day, I found a video of someone just stepping into a pair of crocs that were full of butter.

And then the butter squirts out all of the holes. That's the worst thing of the bros. That's awful. That's so awful. That's horrible. That person should be in prison. Haven't you seen those videos where people cover their parents' entire kitchen and peanut butter? Do you imagine being a parent of like kids trying to go viral?

I also think it's funny that's people are going to have like, you know, kids are going to go to school and be like, oh my God, like, what's his parents do? It's like, dude, just grandfather was fuck Jerry. It is wild of the things people will do for 15 minutes of fame. Like for like a week of having a viral video where no one even really knows who made it. The video just went viral. Like they will sell out their entire family. I think the craziest thing is the 15 minutes of fame quote is like 50 years old. Is that right?

I mean, I guess that makes sense. It's like almost like I don't know if the fame is is more or less now than it was in like 1970. Like, well, your 15 minutes of fame in the night in 1970 was like what? You were on a late night talk show? On page four. Yeah. Yeah. Like, now it's like you just had a video that got a couple million views on TikTok.

Oh, you're the kid who shot his mom in the back with the toy dart and she spilled white paint all over. Oh, you're the main character on Twitter for a day. Yeah. Which you never want to be, by the way. Wow. All right. Well, we're getting old, aren't we? My God.

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