The Ringer NFL Show - Week 6 Recap: Chiefs Are Back, Bulldog Baker, Skattebo Is Nuts, and DK Loves Big Dumper
Episode Date: October 13, 2025The guys recap all of the NFL Week 6 action by going through categories such as Winners and Losers, the Oppenheimer Award, Intrusive Thoughts, and so much more. (0:00) Intro (1:00) ‘Sunday Night F...ootball’: Lions-Chiefs (7:24) Winners and Losers (32:29) The Oppenheimer Award (44:17) The Debutante Ball Award (46:32) It’s So Over. We’re So Back. (01:05:16) Fart or Shart (01:16:55) Intrusive Thoughts (01:20:44) Play of the Day (01:21:40) The WORST Play of the Day (01:28:12) Tom Brady/Magic Johnson Tweets (01:31:18) Stadium Pulse of the Week (01:35:57) The Arthur Smith/Shawn Hochuli Award (01:37:02) Fantasy Burn Book Check out our 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com This episode is brought to you by American Eagle. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show.
My name is Danny Highton.
Today I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig World Beck,
and Sunday of week six is over.
So we are one-third of the way through the regular season,
which is crazy.
We're going to go through winners, losers,
categories, burn book, everything.
You know, finally have a fart or shirt drop.
Thank you to all the people who submitted them.
So we're going to get to that.
Hell yeah.
But we have to start with Sunday night football.
The Kansas City Chiefs beat the Detroit Lions.
D.K., you're shaking your head.
The Chiefs of Old feel back.
It feels like they're back.
Not to do the so back where it's so over.
But they are.
They're so back.
They're kind of back.
Mahomes specifically feels back.
Mahomes is playing his best football.
We did this.
I think last week I did like a,
we need to take a second to recognize what Mahomes is doing kind of from fantasy
and real life perspective.
And this was his best game of the season tonight.
I mean,
he was perfect.
What he's doing legs and arm right now,
just like total command of the offense.
he's as good as he's ever been.
I mean, he can do whatever he wants out there,
and he's working with Kareem Hunt
and a banged-up Xavier Worthy
and old Travis Kelsey.
And they look great.
Like, they really do.
I think I was going through the Fandil Super Bowl odds
today as the Chiefs were kicking ass.
The Chiefs are 9 to 1 in Super Bowl odds,
which is fourth.
And I think you should just take that right now.
That's like the best bet you're going to get.
Like, they're behind the bills,
the Lions, and the Packers.
And I don't know, man.
The Ravens probably aren't going to make the playoffs.
I was going to say,
it doesn't make any sense.
because it's like, is anyone really beating the Bills of Chiefs in the AFC?
Like, are you really going to bank on that?
It used to be, oh, one of the Bills, Chiefs, or Ravens are going to make the Super Bowl.
And now it's like, well, one of them is removed.
And now it's just Buffalo and I think it's going to be Kansas City.
They just look great.
And I'm having a fucking blast with Mahomes on my fantasy team this year.
Yeah, I was going to say,
quietly, he is the QB1 in fantasy as of right now.
Oh, wow, yeah.
Yeah, 24.5 points per game.
The thing I think that always stood out to me about Mahomes during his absolute heyday,
obviously we're talking like it's like a long time ago because but you know like well he's in his 30s now
when he was throwing for 50 plus touchdowns and all that stuff um he just toys with the defense
and he's back to toying with the defense if that makes any sense like just the way that he moves
around toys with past rushers like changes his arm angled all that stuff it's back i i just i only laugh
because i know i know i know exactly me dk but it's funny to be like when he was in his heyday
this guy who's made the last three super bowl you know that's well i know i recognize that but like the
The Chiefs' offense.
You idiot.
The Chiefs' offenses haven't been.
Their offense looked horrible the entire time they were literally the last
of the Super Bowls that they made.
The offense looked horrific.
No, I do know what I meant.
Because they literally couldn't get a lead.
Even last year, they literally couldn't be winning games until the final play.
This year it does look different.
I've said a bunch of times where I'm like, but did you look faster tonight?
Tyquine Thornton, I think it's been solid.
Marquis Brown.
Every now and then.
Flash is like he actually, oh, yeah, was the first receiver taken in an NFL
draft, which you kind of.
forget sometimes with Marquis Brown.
And again, Rishie Rice is coming back for this team.
Next week.
Mahomes now has actually quite a bit of familiarity now with this weird cast of characters,
but it's like three hunt, Pacheco, like all these guys, I don't know,
even left tackle tonight, like Jill and Moore filling in for Josh Simmons.
I don't think a swing tackle has ever gotten more airtime.
Chris Collinsworth and Torrigo talked about Jailen Moore for 20 minutes today.
Well, between that and Dan Skipper.
Big, big night for backup.
tackles, like pop it and get in the Collinsworth
buzz, yeah. Yeah, it was a big deal.
They paid him two years, $30 million to be
the third tackle on this team.
Do you think, and you could out to...
And Brett Feach is loving it.
Can you out to Bill and Sal with the Collinsworth
talking about chilling more?
Mike, this guy, he's the third tackle
on the team. They're paying $30 million.
Who does that? It's a $30 million for
a backup tackle. It's worth it.
Can we just talk about how hard it is to come off the
bench like that and just do that right there?
Mike, I can never play tackle.
These guys are.
different.
Yeah.
Also, the Chiefs defense played great.
I mean, look, Detroit's secondary was beat up.
So on the offensive side of the ball, you could argue that it wasn't a formidable
opponent.
The Chiefs are destroying teams that have been ravaged by injury over and over again.
However, on the flip side, I thought the defense did a fantastic job against golfing
in the lion.
Spagnolo, dude.
It's funny that Collinsworth just said the quiet part out a lot about Detroit at the end
of the game where he's just like, yeah, you know, it's right.
Once they have to pass, it's like, man, that's tough.
It's funny sometimes where it's like, that's just like, hey, I mean, where they all be kids.
But it's funny because the Lions ran down the ball, ran down the field in that first drive,
which we can't move on from this game.
That opening sequence still to me actually remained the entire, the most interesting part of the game,
happened to be the first sequence where the Lions got to fourth and goal at the one and ran,
what I guess was a Gough wildcat bubble screen to Jared Gough or an RPO,
and they just threw the Goff who bobbled Mark Andrews.
The audacity.
And then caught it.
And Romano had an incredible block that Goff somehow was able to bobble and still catch it.
And then they called an illegal motion.
And I'm not going to lie.
I don't actually understand.
I actually had never even thought of that.
I don't know that rule at all of like what a quarterback's allowed to do out of the motion.
I don't actually know that.
And that was shitty.
A lot of procedural, nuanced procedural things ruining big plays lately.
I bet John Morton was really pissed.
John Morton, for those who don't know,
is the offensive play caller in Detroit.
Kind of just a random guy
that no one's really talking about this year,
despite the lines looking exactly the same
as they have the last three years.
But I feel like John Morton was kind of waiting
for his moment to call his fun
Ben Johnson-S trick play.
It didn't work.
I bet you he's really bummed.
Yeah.
He ran a hooking ladder today too.
On the first drive.
Unlike a first down.
They were really filling themselves.
And they got like four yards on it.
It was just the...
The other thing I wanted to mention
because you kind of alluded to it with once the lions have to start passing or whatever in there.
Basically, and it's the same with any team.
Once you become one dimensional, it's so much harder to play offense.
The best way to play offense and what's made their lions so good over the years is they can run
and then they can do play action off of the run, basically keep defenses on their heels.
That's something the chiefs are doing now.
And this was a big talking point.
I saw it on Twitter a bunch.
They're lining up running under center and being very successful under center and then
playing and doing that and running play action off of that and just keeping defenses off their heels.
And so are on their heels. And that's, you know, the Chiefs now, if they have that,
that ability to kind of do both run the ball and pass the ball and not just Mahomes, obviously,
they didn't like rack up huge in numbers, but the success rate was strong.
So, yeah, the Chiefs, they're like getting close to being a fully operational again.
Chiefs are three and three. Next couple games don't look that intimidating or at least I think
they're playing the Raiders next week. Raiders and then Washington. So I think Craig's right.
to one if that's still the line for them
and win the Super Bowl is pretty, just seems
like that'll pay it back.
Anything else in this game before we move on?
Lines are fun, though.
Not trying to say the line. Yeah, lions are fine.
Not trying to discount them. The chiefs are
once again, like one of the best three teams
in the league, I think. Winners are losers.
Winners and losers. Craig,
is your big winner from the day?
Baker. Yes.
It's the correct answer.
Yeah. The bucks beat the
Niners, 30 to 19.
This game was a bloodbath.
Both these teams are super injured already, and they came in, and they both lost, like,
their first or second best player midgame.
Like, Fred Warner had a horrible foot and ankle injuries probably out for the season.
And then Ibuka on the books, Hurdus Hamstring was out in the second half.
But this game in general, Baker is just the best.
I didn't watch how I met your mother, but isn't there a whole, like, crazy hot scale thing
where it's like, if you're crazy, you need to be that hot
to accommodate for the craziest.
Baker is like the craziest and the hottest
that quarterback right now.
I don't, I honestly don't know if there's ever been a quarterback
that has exuded the spirit of football
more than Baker Mayfield.
He's the quarterback embodiment,
the human embodiment of smelling salts.
Yes.
You just watch him and you're like,
fuck, that is awesome.
Like, if you had to make like an 80s football movie
and you had to craft a character with a quarterback,
it would be baking.
And what's incredible is, you don't have to change his name either.
Baker maybe it's perfect
It's a great name
It's rare you get a combo of somebody
Who's this fun and crazy
But also really good
Like he's probably the MVP of the league right now
But he's also like his antics
And his personality and all that stuff is so infectious
The play of the day in my opinion
Was the third and 14
In the third quarter
Where he basically drops back
Looks like he's gonna get sacked
Like 10 yards behind the line is free
Ducks under the sack
Two guys on him
Yeah yeah
Breaks free
And then somehow manages to scramble
14 yards, makes like three guys miss,
dives over the first downline.
He's just, he's just the most fun
quarterback in the league.
He has to be the most,
he's the biggest fan favorite quarterback in the league
is Baker Mayfield by a mile.
Great. You are so right that
I think over the years,
there's been a lot of guys that like try and
exude his personality and it's like
a little bit forced and
contrived feeling. Yeah, like it
like with Baker, it's real. There's been
so many videos lately coming out.
There was one from last week against the Seahawks
where he's just talking shit to this guy in the stands
in the tunnel.
He's like, we'll see you at halftime, we'll see you at halftime, whatever.
So he was like calling him a pussy.
Yeah.
And I'm like, you're Baker-Mavial, you're an NFL player.
And you're just talking to some fan.
That's what I'm talking.
Like he, at the end of the game, he went and found that guy.
And it was like, what's up now, bitch?
He like ran out of the tunnel.
Somebody asked him, they were like, oh, you know,
have you kind of like turned up the heat like lately, like this year?
And he was like, no, I've always been this.
way we just weren't good.
We just labeled that differently.
He's like, I've always been this way.
This is just who I am.
Did he actually just say, yes, same shit, different day or something?
Yeah, pretty much.
He's unbelievable.
And I agree.
I mean, he probably is the MVP and also, not more importantly or whatever, but more fun.
If your team or whatever, whoever that you root for was just like deleted or whatever,
and you're like, okay, you get to pick a new team for this season.
You would 100% pick Baker Mayfield first.
Like, of all the players you don't get the route for,
for he is like so head and shoulders above everyone else of like man i want to root for that
guy like he's kind of why fantasy football exists because if you have baker mayfield you're
like oh my god this guy's on my team yeah you guys do you guys remember when i went on that long
rant about him ripping passes i want to pull that's just fucking rips passes nobody
rips a pass harder than baker mayfield he just sits back there and fucking rips passes
all day long and they won the game because so baker completed 17 to 23 passes 2506 yards two
touchdowns. And the other play, if that wasn't the play of the game, that was the play of the day,
was the third and 14 scramble where, and Jim Nance is like, Baker, no shot. Oh, oh, yes, he does
have a chance. And, but the other play of the day, if it wasn't that, was that long touchdown,
was that long touchdown, which was that long, he only, he only, that was the same, I believe
that was the same drive. I think it was because he converted that first down. He then,
it was like, two plays later. And Tess Johnson was talking about how he was like, I'm getting MVP chance.
Isn't that weird? And Sterling Shep was like, he was like, I haven't done enough for that. He's like,
it's like the sponge by me. It was like, how do we tell him?
It's, yeah.
He's like, that seems weird.
They're saying on the MVP, I barely play.
He's like, I haven't done anything this year.
Like, wow, that seems premature.
Wow, I don't know.
Dude, Baker's just the best.
I just can't believe how awesome.
It's just rare that somebody who's this fun is actually this good.
And usually, that's the key.
It's like a James Winston type where you're like, oh, I love, he's crazy.
I love watching them.
But Baker's fucking awesome as well.
They're 5 and 1.
They're winning games.
And they're all close.
But the, sorry, the last thing we have to say about this is,
The adversity is ridiculous.
And not in a cliche way like his whole career.
Like this season,
John Ledger posted this just for,
obviously the Niners are banked up too.
I mean,
these are two of the more banked up teams
in the entire NFC.
But John Ledger posted that for that final drive
that the Buckingers went and finished the game,
Baker was out there with a third string tackle,
fifth string guard,
the fifth, sixth, and seventh string receivers.
I had the back of running down.
There was a couple guys out there that I'm like,
I don't really know who this guy is.
Tess Johnson, who ended up making a bunch of plays,
was a seventh round pick who was like 145 pounds or whatever.
That's Johnson's one of the smallest players away.
There's another Johnson guy.
It was Cameron Johnson with a K.
Cameron Johnson, and Craig, I'll give you, unless you've already seen this,
I'll give you $1 million if you know where he went to college.
I don't.
I'll guess.
One million dollars.
One million dollars.
I bet I'll give you a million dollars if you've heard of this school.
Oh.
College of the Redwoods.
Barton.
Barton College.
I think I've heard of Barton, right?
I know a guy named Barton.
I don't know.
Have you?
Barton sounds like one of those like Nessack schools.
Name three guys who went to Barton.
Yeah.
Oh, you love Barton so much.
Name five guys on there.
Will Barton, who used to play for the Nuggets?
No, is it in like Massachusetts?
What in doubt just guess a college is in like the New England area?
It's in North Carolina.
Oh, shout up Mike Barton also, North Carolina.
Yeah, totally.
But anyway, yeah, Cameron Johnson, who is also 170 pounds.
They have two guys that are like 170 pounds or less in Cameron Johnson and Ted Johnson.
I love Ted Johnson.
So I'm excited to see him play.
But yeah, they are absolutely down to just the drags of their depth chart at this point.
It's crazy.
I know Barton's a small school because I Googled Barton College Schedule and their actual academic calendar came up first.
you know it's not really a football school
holy shit okay sorry
still a bit from crank here
the Barton football schedule on these teams
North Greenville
Delta State they lost
45 to nothing to Delta State
Delta State sounds like it like a TV show college
because they couldn't like it 100%
Dude all right these are
Ferrum
Ferram Barton played
Ferram F-R-R-U-M
Ferram
F-R-U-M Farrum
Never heard of that
And then...
Sounds like it's a Star Wars ass name right there.
This is D-1 programs?
I don't...
I can't...
No, this is D-2.
Certainly not D-1.
The Ferram Panthers.
They also beat the Chowan University Hawks, C-H-O-W-N.
And then they just...
They had homecoming.
It was just, again, shorter.
The college's name is shorter.
Wow.
105 years of Barton Bulldogs football.
Incredible.
Shout out to Barton.
Email us for your fantasy.
We don't know about Barton.
Emails to bring your fantasy, if you know anything about Barton.
Email us to ring your fantasy, if you know anything about
partner, Farum.
Dekha, who's your winner of the day?
My winner is Drake May.
You know, obviously, I know Bill Simmons is going to have a long talk about this on
his pod too, but I definitely also want to shout out.
I'm just,
I'm just saying it's going to be a little repetitive for those who are listening to Bill
Simmons podcast, but that's okay, because he is playing extremely good football right now,
Drake May is.
Today he had 261 passing yards, three touchdowns, no picks, also added 28 yards as a
rusher. He led all quarterbacks in EPA for dropback, pass rating, second only to Jordan Levin's
success rate, although I did write this down before my home. So my homes might have jumped in front
of them either way. He did all that despite a 42% pressure rate. He only took one sack. And now the
paths have won four to five. And I know that some of the opponents that they played are not that
good. But I mean, in those last five games, May has nine touchdowns to one pick. He's averaging almost
250 passing yards a game. Um, nine point three yards per attempt in that, which is second.
second in the NFL.
He's third in EPA per dropback and pass rating.
Fifth and explosive pass rate.
So it's not just dink and dunk.
I mean, he's doing a little bit of everything.
And he looks really good.
After one week,
Hyfitz and I were texting Pat's beat riders being like,
dude, is Drake May any good, actually?
And now after this, like five weeks later,
I'm just like he looks like obviously a franchise quarterback for them.
So that's really exciting from their point of view.
My intrusive thought watching this game is that like,
Drake May is not just good.
He's great.
He might be, like, really good.
Like...
Yeah.
Like up there.
Yes.
I think Drake May is going to be, like, almost Josh Allen.
Like, that's where I'm at.
Drake May...
Watching him already looks to me like he's on that path.
Drake May looks like he might leapfrog burrow and the Bengals
as, like, the joining the Lamar Ravens, Josh Pills, Chiefs, Baham's Tier.
in the AFC. Obviously, Mahomes almost
kind of gets his own tier because he's actually made Super Bowls
and the other guys haven't. But I mean, one,
Mahomes-esque, Josh Allen-esque, whatever you want to call it,
the flip Drake May had to Trayvion
Henderson, where he ended up getting a first down, was one of those
where I was kind of amazed a rookie could have that poise. That was
amazing. But the other one, the holy shit play of the game
honestly didn't count. It was the deep ball to Diggs.
That Diggs was called for offensive pass interference,
which was pretty tickey-tacky. But that ball
was, it looked fake.
It was so perfect and beautiful.
And it was just amazing.
All three of Drake made's touchdowns were 20 plus yard throws under pressure,
which just,
plus he had like another one that got called back on some phantom-ass call.
I was going up against him in fantasy this week.
And it felt like every drive he completed a 50-yard pass.
Half of them were called back.
But I couldn't believe how good his deep ball was today.
I mean, he couldn't miss.
Well, yeah, like Craig, you mentioned like your intrusive thoughts.
It's like my, I've always compared him and think of him in kind of the same mold as Justin Herbert.
There was a couple of plays where my intrusive thought was like, whoa, that kind of, that, the way the ball jumped off his hand on those deep balls.
And it was just like a perfect spiral and high velocity.
I was like, damn, kind of reminds me a little bit of Herbert.
Yeah, I mean, it's hard to, I mean, there's a lot of really good quarterback.
So it's hard.
I mean, you can Josh Mahomes, Lamar, Burrow, and you're already, it's like, can anybody break the top four?
That's our, that would be pretty difficult.
Right now, you have Herbert.
I'm kind of like, if you're restarting right now
and you have to draft quarterbacks,
I don't know.
He might be like fit.
Drake is really high because of the age,
but I actually think the more interesting question is,
you have to win a game next week.
Who do you take?
Mahomes is obviously first, I think.
But like Lamar is out, right?
Joe Burroughs out.
Like they're not healthy.
Like right now, you have to win a game next week.
Who are you taking?
I feel like it's Mahomes?
It's like it's Josh.
It's Herbert.
Baker?
Yeah.
Jack?
Jack, Drake, Matt, like, Drake,
Drake, May is really high as the point would be, but, yeah.
Dude.
Also, every Patriots receiver looks the same to me.
Like, they're all out, everyone's like eight, six, or five.
They're all like five, 11.
I never, it's like they're trying to trick the defense by making everybody look the same.
It's like they all have the same single bubble letter and they're all similar heights.
The font on all their names is correct.
Yeah, I'm like, I don't know who's catching passes.
I can never tell.
They got, they got a good system over there.
I just do know it's not going to Trevion and Henderson.
That's what I do.
Trayvion Anderson had one of those moments today.
It was such an ick where Drake Bay was rolling right.
It could have really used Trayette Henderson to go and block a guy directly or run a route.
And Trayvon Henderson, Andrew Callahan at the Harold called it a Madden glitch.
And it really did look like he just kept shuffling like it was a drill.
He had no idea Drake Bay was there.
It was a huge egg.
Did we burn him last week?
We did.
We're doing it this week.
I was going to say we should burn him again.
I was like, oh, wait, we already burned Trivion Anderson.
I agonized over who should I start,
Hassan Haskins or Trayvon Henderson.
Turns out they both suck.
The answer is always neither.
I didn't have any other options.
Anyway, yeah, Drake May.
Yeah, he's good.
Honestly, it sucks.
Let's like get ahead of ourselves.
No, I'm getting ahead.
My intrusive thought is that he's going to win a Super Bowl
and he's going to be a Hallfamer.
Well, shit.
That's my intrusive thought.
That's what I felt today.
That was better than really good.
In your bones.
That second take.
That was good.
It's better than the first time.
You were like really good.
Yeah, that one was more decisive.
by a lot.
Yeah.
It was good.
I meant more like,
like you know,
I was saying like really good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know.
He was insinuating.
You could see it.
Yeah, you knew it out.
Say it again.
I like these way you said that.
Really good.
Oh, that was good.
Don't,
not that far.
It's too much.
Now you do too much.
D.K., any other winners?
Yeah, the Aaron Rogers
D.K. McHawf connection is a winner.
Okay.
Fuck yeah, DK.
This is something that I doubted.
in the off season.
Sure.
They all did.
They all did.
I kind of doubted Rogers in general.
And then I doubted that Rogers would like D.K. Metcalfe because D.K. Metcalfe kind of like, you know, he does his thing.
You know, no, not like personally, but just like on the field.
Oh, so professional.
And man, there was one play today in particular where Rogers hit a back shoulder.
It was like a deep throw down the sideline.
And it went, he snuck it in the only place like he could have put it down the field like 30 yards.
And it just like softly settled into D.
Calfe Sands, like 30 yards down the field or whatever it was.
So I'm very impressed with their connection this year.
Like, D.K. Metcalfe is consistently making pretty big place for him.
We had four catches, 95 yards on a touchdown today.
Steelers easily handled the Browns.
So yeah, I just wanted to capitulate a little bit there and give Craig some credit for all
his Aaron Rogers' faith during the offseason.
Like that connection in particular looks pretty strong.
Rogers is a man of faith and now so much.
No, Rogers' arm to me can still do everything he wants it to do.
There is nothing that is limiting him from like a strength and accuracy perspective despite his age.
He can still make any throw he wants.
He also had really impressed his scrambling stuff today.
I think he looked better as a scrambler today.
And I think people forget, like, that was like the hallmark.
It wasn't just Rogers' arm talent.
It was the, I mean, you know, we kind of all getting all tizzy about Mahomes.
but like Rogers was just as good moving outside the pocket probably as anyone has ever been, ever.
And he had flashes of that today.
It doesn't always have to be like a 10 out of 10 amazing, but he just was making stuff.
He didn't look at any point like he was like, what is he, 41, 42?
Yeah, I think 41.
He did not look 41 today at various times moving out of the pot.
He didn't get sacks.
Sometimes he does.
I know.
He didn't get sacked today against Miles Garrett and the Steelers young, crappy offensive line,
which I thought was super impressive.
I think it was underrated that last year was.
the year after tearing his Achilles,
and this is the year after the year after.
And it's like,
I think it still applies,
even though you're 41,
42 years old.
He does look better because he's had a year of recovery now under his belt.
Craig,
what was that play?
I'm trying to remember,
I'm trying to picture it.
There was a play.
I don't think it was completed,
but he put it into the back of the end zone or something like that.
And you texted us about it.
There was like,
he made an incredible throw that I don't,
I don't remember if he actually completed or not,
but it was like.
I think you're talking about the touchdown to Connor Hayward.
I think.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I am.
Across his body, back of the end zone, like only, I mean, it was an unbelievable throw.
Yeah.
And the weird, like, tight end stuff that Arthur Smith is doing is really working.
They're using Darnow Washington really smartly.
Oh, my God.
Janu Smith, Fryermuth, like Connor Hayward.
It's all these just, like, big tight ends running across the field.
And Rogers is, like, bootlegging and hitting all these guys.
And Metcalf is basically a tight end.
They're all these, like big trucks that they get momentum.
Donald Washington is a freaking wagon, man.
He's out there.
He looks like a tackle.
It's kind of what the bills did last year
at the sixth offensive line minutes.
Yeah.
If Collinsworth got his eyes on Darnow, Washington,
like Jalen Moore, he'd be freaking out.
Imagine what Collinsworth learns about him.
My winner is really simple.
My winner is the New York football giants.
Oh, hi-fix.
We buried the lead here.
I know it was Thursday.
A buddy of mine was like,
I sprinted to your podcast on Friday morning
because I thought you guys were going to talk about the Giants
and then he realized we recorded before.
Did I not text you?
multiple times Topper question mark
How many times did I asked you guys to do it?
Drunk Hefitz really
I was drunk and I wanted to fucking record the top of the show.
Hyphitz and I spoke on the phone
it was midnight his time. He was walking home from a bar
and talking about Jackson Dart.
He was like, dude Craig,
he was like, the Giants are better than the Eagles.
And I was like, I think they are.
I think you're right.
Hifis was on one.
I had so many people reach out to me
to be like Hyphitz is really having
having the night of his life.
My honest to God review of the Giants Eagles game was I think I actually forgot that football's fun.
I had not.
You forgot that this is the whole point.
I had not really truly enjoyed watching my team play football, like start to finish for a football game in years.
Like literally that that Giants Vikings playoff game was unbelievable.
And that is the world grinds you down, Hyphitz, and he's back.
I can't tell you how much fun I had.
watching this game.
I was absolute disbelief.
I don't even know where to begin,
but actually I exactly do.
Jackson Dart and Cam Scataboo,
I wouldn't trade them for the world.
Certainly not Ashen Janty.
Like, they are,
if Baker is number one
in the most rootable,
lovable players of the season,
I think the dart scataboo combination
is clearly second.
They have emerged.
Scataboo three touchdown.
Dude, they're bizarre.
They're so weird.
The broiest bros of all.
scataboo, like, there's the stats, blah, blah,
like he was number two running back this weekend fantasy
at three touchdowns, 110 scrimanders, I don't even care.
They're booping each other like pit bulls and barking.
Yes, that would, I'm assuming you saw the same tweet then.
Somebody was like, they communicate like pit bulls.
Yes, they do.
They're crazy people.
They're insane.
Scataboo is the best comp I heard.
Jordan Renaudity of Spain had this great story.
Called him the Tasmanian devil.
Yeah.
I don't know how we went through the whole draft process without talking about this,
but Cam Scadaboo, the story went big this week,
that Cam Scadaboo's mom told the story
that when Cam Scadaboo was a kid,
he would put on his older brother's shoulder pads from football
and he would run into telephone polls.
It's just like, it's so believable.
It makes total sense.
And that's how you know he's crazy.
He's crazy.
You hear that and you're like totally tracks.
Like he's concussion proof because he is,
a concussion. He can't get
also he already has. He is one.
Dude, this is like, I'm probably like
overthinking this, but he has the thickest neck I've ever
seen in my life. Also like a very weird
headshade. He's like Mike Tyson
neck. It's unbelievable. What's that, dude?
It's like, it's
insane. So the funniest post I
saw all weekend was someone was
like, so if Kim Skadabook got concussed,
like how would they know?
Oh God.
That's, yeah.
That's what I'm saying. He's literally concussion proof.
The friendship that they're the most like 21 year old morons that are just like blitz.
They're like giant.
I said you hyphids, I sent you the text that was like, it was like a picture of Dart and
Scataboo after the game like posing for the camera.
And it was like me and my boy after we crushed 59 beers and talk to zero women.
It's unbelievable.
DART goes into tent and it's like Scataboo runs into the tent to check on him and they like shove him out.
And then like Daeble's like circle.
Kling being like, what's going on in there?
And he's getting letters to the league.
By the way, is 100% in this crew.
He really wants to be.
Dayball's like,
you guys want to go to Sizzler?
Catch him grab.
Call me.
God bless.
Oh, my God.
It was honestly just absolutely blissful.
That's just Tasmanian devil ass running back we have.
And then Dart is just good.
Dart, if anything, I'm actually mad at Daibald because he fucking loves DART so much.
And I'm like, can we just stop getting Dart hit?
That's my only complaint with this.
He won't do that.
He won't do that.
DART is like ejecting himself
into people on the sideline.
You know what I mean?
He's like spearheading people
instead of running out of bounds.
A little too much time around Scataboo.
And like I need...
Scatibu is never going to change.
Nor should he.
Dart can't...
He needs to stop taking those hits.
But I actually...
I can't remember the last time I loved
to athletes so purely,
so immediately.
I'm like, these are already two
like iconic Giants players.
Yeah. I'm so happy for you.
High Fitz was desperately trying to get
an argument with me on
Thursday night about the Genti thing and I was
just like, I'm just, I don't even want to argue. I don't
want to not like Scatibu. I'm all
in on Scataboo. Scataboo got me 30 points
this week. So
I'm not even going to argue with you anymore.
If you want Scataboo more than Gentie, I'm
giving you that. The other thing I have to mention is
that it was especially delicious that
Sequin Barclay has apparently been filming a documentary for five years,
including filmed the other end of the Joe Shane call from Hard Docs,
which is absolutely mind-blowing that he was also making a documentary.
Is anything more media current landscape, Craig,
than just Sequin was also making a doc of him himself?
I hate people like filming documentaries of themselves while they're playing.
He releases it.
Obviously, time to this Giant Seagulls game on Prime.
Prime is the game, blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's out there.
And then you know what?
Seekwon had 31 yards in the first two plays.
and then he had basically nine meaningful rush yards
after the first minute of the game.
You know what the best revenge is after breakup hyphids?
Just being happy.
Yeah.
I feel like that's what you are right now with Barkley.
Happiness is the best revenge.
I can't remember two players on a team
having more personality that like shapes the team
that immediately permeates the team.
Like just like the I just can't get over the two of them
how immediately, like,
famous and iconic they are as a duo?
Do you remember how you said that Caleb Williams
was the first, like, Gen Z quarterback?
I think it's Dart.
Like, I know that literally, but I just
Dart and start. No, you're right.
Dart exudes more Gen Z characteristics.
I just, it's bizarre.
I don't know.
It's anyway.
He likes the new Star Wars sequels
because they're vintage, you know what I mean?
Like, it's like, it's right.
Anyway, I just, I can't say enough about them.
It's been an absolute joke.
Yeah, I don't
Do you guys believe in jinxes?
Do you want me to, I could say something right now
that would jinx things or I don't.
Oh, just, you know, no, just I don't want to hear it.
You don't want it?
Okay.
I was going to pretend.
He's like actually, do you actually that.
How fucking dare you.
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All right, Oppenheimer, player who went nuclear this week, D-K.
Jackson Smith & Jigba.
Question.
Do you think he has ascended to being a top five receiver?
right now like full stop.
I do.
He is having an absolutely insane year.
I always liked JSA.
I liked him in the draft.
I was so excited when the Seahawks got him.
I don't think ever at any point was I like,
he's going to be one of the best receivers in the NFL like league-wide.
I thought he was going to be a very good receiver and probably pretty productive,
but he has done so much more already than I ever expected.
He leads the NFL in receiving yards right now, 696.
He's on pace for nearly 2,000 yards.
receiving. I don't, obviously,
probably going to taper off and not hit that, but he is literally on pace for 1,972 yards.
He's averaging 4.5 yards per route run, which is an absolutely absurd number.
You split that number in half.
It's still an elite number.
He has been incredibly efficient.
He has two of the top individual weekly target rates on the season, 57% target rate in
week one, 48% in week two.
He's basically the Seahawks passing game.
And I think the cool part about it,
and maybe the part that less people expected from him coming into the season and coming into his career is he's doing almost all of it on the outside.
He's only playing in the slot 19% of time.
He is a real number one receiver.
He's averaging over five yards per route run on outside routes, which is tops in the NFL.
He has a top five separation score according to fantasy points.
He's third and overall route win rate according to fantasy points behind only Mike Evans and Devante Adams.
He is having an absolutely absurd season.
So just wanted to shout him out.
and I can't even remember what he did today
was like 150 yards. Hold on. I'd we pull it up here.
Eight catches for 162 yards in the score
and the Seahawks 20 to 12 win over the Jags.
You got to give it to your guy Schneider, D.K.
I do.
When Gino and D.K. left.
You were upset. And now look.
I know. They're making me eat my words.
And I'm happy about it.
He's fantastic. I honestly think it's like Jamar Chase.
It's Justin Jefferson. It's Pooka Nakua.
And then like JSN's right there.
Right.
He just moves differently.
I think that's kind of the thing.
thing that sticks out to me about him is he's he just has incredible body control the way he
runs routes and and he can you know turn the corner after the catch the way he can keep his
feet in as he's like twisting and contorting at the sideline to catch a pass like he just has
an incredible incredible concentration and body control and i mean we always kind of knew that but
i don't i don't know if i ever knew he would be this electric and this dominant as an outside
receiver so um huge credit to the jump he's made this season
Big win for Bill Simmons.
That was his guy when we did the pod with him in the offseason.
JSN was his.
I know.
And I would have that.
Again,
like you said it,
I was a little doubtful that he could really do this.
But man,
he's been amazing.
Mine is,
I'm going to do two.
I want to quickly just throw out Kendrick Bourne's name
because once again,
he literally had the same amount of yards last week as he did this week.
He's had 142 yards each of the last two weeks.
Kendrick Bourne's 30 years old and has had it.
He's on the Niners.
I should say that first,
who lost to the bucks today.
but Kendrick Bourne is 30 years old.
He's been playing in the NFL for a long time.
He's had one 100-yard game in his career,
and he's had two in the last two weeks.
And he just looks awesome.
He's ripping huge plays.
Juan Jennings was back today,
but then we found out after the game,
he said he's been playing with five broken ribs.
I wish I did have a high ankle sprain.
Two ankle sprains.
Five broken ribs.
Somebody texted me today asking if they should start Joan Jennings
or somebody else, and I recommended.
Dude, if I had two broken ribs,
I don't think I would do this show.
Five?
I don't think I would do this podcast.
I would be in pain probably just sitting.
I know.
What are we doing?
It's one of those words like, yeah, I agree, D.K., like, is that, that seems neither safe
nor productive.
It's not good for him or the team.
How does that help by anybody?
How does the team doctors approve that?
Yeah, get out there.
Also, the two different ankle sprains when he said that, I just like, man, that's, I,
every morning I break my legs and every night I break my arms.
That's a sponge about jokes for hyvins.
Dick, you got it.
The other guy I want to throw it is George Pickens.
I got to say this is a-
George Pickens.
This is a season where, like,
I'm not upset the Steelers got rid of George Pickens.
I think if George Pickens were on the Steelers right now,
it would be worse than the Metcalf situation
because I think Rogers and Pickens would be a disaster
and Rogers would hate Pickens.
And so it's like a rare thing where I think, like,
everything the Seahawks did, they're better off.
Everything the Steelers did, they're better off.
Everything the Cowboys did, they're better off.
Like, the triangle works for everybody.
but Pickens is literally the number one wide receiver
since Cidid Lamb went out in fantasy
he's the number three on the season just overall
He's incredible he's unbelievable
Every play is like a cartoon watching him
But they're all it's all scoring
Anything can happen you know those videos of like
When when like cat owners jokingly will
Will scare their cat
And the cats like jumps
Yeah they put like a cucumber by the by the
The people and they like freak out
He just randomly jumps
And you like never know which way they're going to
contort yourself. That's what George Pickens is doing.
He'll catch the ball and then like sidestep somebody and try to hurdle somebody else.
He gets one good hurdle and you're like, wow, that's awesome.
And then he like doesn't like the guy.
He just matches the hurdle.
But then he just tries to hurdle.
And like, George, you're like falling down.
He's standing up.
Why are you trying to hurdle him?
He's having a blast.
The cat image is so fucking true.
It's so funny.
Cats freak out.
All of a sudden he says, ah.
It's like tin foil on the counter.
It's like he's getting like, it's like he has a shock.
color on and we don't know it and he gets zapped
sometimes.
But man, but he has been
good. I think every theory that we had about him
prior to the season so far has come true.
He's unbelievable and he was in the Steelers. They just never
threw the fucking ball. Yeah, this is by far the best
quarterback situation that he's had. Obviously, it helps
too that C.D. Lamb is not
like bogarting 14 targets a game
anymore. What was that word?
Bogarting.
Duane McFarland uses it all the time.
You never heard the word boagarting? Yeah. To bogart
your way in somewhere? I love being pranked.
To Bogart your way in.
You've never heard that.
With a D or a T?
Bogart.
Like a Humphrey Bogart?
Or keep?
Yes.
Is that actually like what we're talking?
It's a reference to Humphrey Bogart?
Is that or is it just?
Wow.
Dictionary.com says appropriate or sorry, appropriate or keep something,
especially a lit marijuana cigarette.
You're Bogarting.
Okay.
Borgarding.
Taking, stealing.
It's from Humphrey Bogart, I believe.
It's a slagint.
You didn't share.
pot perhaps not now i guess you didn't know puff puff pass from humphry boggart you learn saying new
every day okay all right i'm sure there's at least 10 12 people who also like me were happy no i don't
think i don't judge you for not knowing that but that's fine i'm surprised you never heard that
bogart your way in no i actually it's not you know what that better anyway speaking but to
your point though craig about how everyone's happy with that little arrangement where it's like the
Steelers or Seahawks are happy that
JSA gets room and then the Steelers are happy that
McHap's doing well and the Cowboys are happy that
Pickens and it wouldn't have worked. The fourth
person of that is Rico Dowdell
who is certainly
where it's like the Cowboys have Giovante, it's fine, but then the
Panthers, the Rico
Devonte is happy too. He's happy.
But then Rico Dalton tells the
Cowboys to buckle up, which is kind of big
talk from a guy who kind of has one good game.
He leaves Dallas last year. Last year's a thousand yards.
He had a thousand yards.
A thousand yards.
wait, you know what?
He has 480 scrimmage yards the last two weeks.
Like, that's incredible.
Here's how good Rico Dattle has been.
He's got me digging up, quote, tweets from 2020 and 2021 that I wrote about Rico Daudel and retweeting him.
Dude, you know, a little self-let the people know.
Yeah, a little self-promotion.
Yeah.
I loved Rico Dattle.
Well, I didn't love him.
But I thought he was really interesting.
Please, you cook those up with Chad DTP.
I know it.
That was a fake tweet.
So the Panthers beat Dallas 30 to-old.
Called up Elon and was like, hey, can you post something for me?
Panthers beat Dallas 30 to 27.
And we were joking last week that Rico Dowell last week ran for 206 yards.
And we were joking that he'll just do it.
We were like, really did again.
No one will do that again?
We're like, he'll actually do better.
He did do better.
He had 239 scrimmage yards.
The most in Panthers history, they've had Christian McCaffrey and Jonathan Stewart
DeAngelo Williams.
So maybe it's not the oldest team in the NFL, but they've had some good fucking players.
And Rico Dowell also has more scrimmage yards in two straight weeks than Christian McCaffrey ever did at any point for the team.
473 scrimmage charts for Rico Dadadle the last two weeks.
He's the number one running back in all of fantasy football this week and over the last two weeks.
Do you think Chuba Hubbard just got Drew Bledsoe?
Is he fucked?
Yeah.
Dude, Dave Canales was asked after the game,
what will Rico Doudal's role be when Chuba Hubbard comes back?
And Dave Canales smiled and said, great question.
He said this last week.
He's like, good problem to have.
I wonder how good.
The starter in Carolina would have to be for Rico Doudal not to win the starting job.
Like, which running backs would win it back, you know?
Oh, that's, I can, I'll tell you around.
Gibbs, MacAfree, Sequin, Jonathan Taylor, I think that's the end of the list.
Derek Henry?
Derek Henry.
Henry, and I guess Beijon.
Josh Jacobs?
No.
Like, he wouldn't be.
Jacobs is like the line we're talking now.
But Jacob and Becky Irving.
They would lose, well, not straight bench, but they would begin to lose drives.
Committee.
You think Bucky Irving would lose drives?
Absolutely.
I think even McAfee or Sequin would lose one extra drive.
If a guy came in and had the most scrimmage yards of the history of the team,
I do think Sequin will play one less drive.
But let's be real here.
Scataboo would never take him off the field.
No, he's different.
He's built up.
I mean, quite literally built up.
He does have a strange.
He's a strange body.
Strange body.
He does have a strange body.
It's a strange guy.
I mean, we should be like a cartoon.
He also just, we even talk about how Scataboo is always just like, wow, it just has no, dude, there's
his flips are insane.
I know.
He did like a flip with like a little twist.
He's a pit bull.
People say he choose so loudly.
That is like the commentary from the teammates on Scataboo that he's crazy.
Everyone says he's not like his teammates are like he's crazy.
Craig, that was actually kind of one of the like pre-draft narratives that you were hearing was like,
he's just a weird dude.
of him at Arizona State
where they're walking out
and they're kind of like
being delayed to go on the field
so he's just like
smashing his head
with the helmet against the brick wall
while all his teammates
are kind of like
throwback
yeah people like
his teammates don't say
he's a dog man he grinds
they're like no he's nuts
like he's out of his mind
yeah yeah
I love him anyway
but yeah so he wouldn't lose time
everyone else would lose time
to Rico Daniel who's 17 year
of being the fifth player ever
with back to back to which of rushing yard game
so yeah
Dowdle, incredible.
Huge cell high.
Probably.
I mean, the most obvious cell high of all season.
Rico Dowdle on the fucking Panthers.
He played the two of the worst rushing defense.
That is an NFL.
Get rid of him if you can.
The dolphins in the Cowboys.
I know it's hard to like come by running backs so you probably don't want to.
But if you are flush with running backs, I would get rid of.
Or we have more yards next week.
Craig, you said this shit last week.
They're playing the jet.
next week.
You're right about the cell high
because the Dowdell thing
reminds me of like
literally the beginning
of Peaky Blinders.
This isn't even a fucking spoiler
because it's like the first episode
but when they do the trick with the horse
and they're like,
no, no, no, you let it win the first race.
Then you do it again.
You let it win the second race.
The third race,
that's where you make all your money.
That's when that was this.
Debutante ball for the player
maturing in front of our very...
I refuse to give anyone for this one.
Maturing.
Today I'm going to
give it to, I was watching, I just felt it.
Matthew Golden today, I feel like
entered a new level.
A rookie coming off the buy for Green Bay,
they won today to beat the Bengals. He
looked like he
had arrived, you know? He was in his
dress. Twitchy. He's so fast. He is
very fast. He had 71 yards
by half time. He had over 100 yards at the end of the game.
I just thought he looked electric and
looked different with the ball in his hands than
most wide receivers. And
that's it. He's
matured. You guys, you guys
I love Matthew Gold.
I'm sure a lot of people listening
are very frustrated with me
for the first month
because I feel like
if any people have Matthew Goldman's
because he yelled about them.
We've been preaching that you have to wait.
This is why.
This is why because
the post by rookie bomb is a thing.
Golden looks like the kind of guy
that could be a huge contributor
over the second half.
Also, while we're doing the debut top ball
for player who matured,
I also think we should do
a little Golden Bachelor
while we're on Packers,
Bengals, because I got to tell you,
my intrusive thought
was I actually kind of thought
when the Bengals cut it's a six.
I kind of thought the Bengals
were going to win.
Yeah, there was a moment there.
Flacco had a really good second half.
I was kind of,
going into this,
the Bengals whole,
they trade for Flacco thing was kind of,
I thought it would be dead dove,
do not eat.
They were like,
they were going to score six points
and we were going to be like,
what did we expect?
He's 40 years old.
It was like Jake Browning
was the 40th worst quarterback this year.
Joe Flacco was the 39th worst quarterback.
And it looked that way.
And then they were kind of moving the ball
and they were down 14.
They got the two point conversion to go down six.
I'm like,
are the Bengals going to witness in regulation?
and I kind of thought they weren't going to.
No, I kind of agree with you.
There was also a play.
The play where T. Higgins almost scored.
Yeah.
He put in so much effort that I feel like he wouldn't have done with Jake Browning.
It felt like he was trying extra hard because he was happy that Flackard was throwing him to football.
That was like Kelsey tonight instead of football when he like got landed on his head.
And then remember to reach back to the October.
the pilot. I'm like, would you have done that if it wasn't
like Sunday football, Taylor Swift was there?
I know. Kind of remembered.
It's like, wait. That was good.
It's so over. We're so back.
Yeah.
D.K., do it. I know what's back.
We're so back is DK's love of baseball is back.
I'm way back in on baseball.
Can we quickly do a mini five minutes on you going to that Mariners game?
Yes. Yeah, so I was lucky enough to get tickets to go to
the Game 5, the ALDS.
And you flew, which I thought was funny.
I was like, you flew to Seattle?
You live two hours from Seattle with drive.
Why did you not fly?
It's fucking sick because flying is better than driving.
Did you fly?
You hate planes.
You complain about it all the time.
No, I'm actually back in on flying too.
D.K., if there's no traffic, like as the bird flies, how far is Bellingham from Seattle?
If there's no traffic.
In a plane?
No.
Oh, no, driving.
To the field, probably like an hour and 45 minutes.
So you went to the air.
airport and how long is the flight fucking had a beer at the airport we made a whole day of it we
flew down the flight's like 25 minutes that's crazy hop in a cab and we're there and we're there
sure also my buddy paid for him with points so it was like not like okay sure anyway we tell us but so
for those who don't know so yeah this game five of mariners versus tigers ALDS yeah tigers yeah and
I mean the tigers at scoble turiq scuba pitching was like I mean the best pitcher in baseball
and the mariners you know you guys had to want to playoff and
He fucked us up, too.
He had 13Ks in like six innings.
He faced 18 batters struck out 13, which is fucking preposterous.
I was wondering that.
Like, oh, my, doing the nerds are like, oh, my God, he can't face the order three times.
I'm like, he struck out everybody.
Anyway, it ended up being, it went 15 innings, and it was basically the best playoff game in at least a couple years.
But that was one of the better playoff games I've ever seen in baseball.
I mean, it was, it'll go down immediately in Mariners' lore, for sure, in terms of like one of the all-time great games.
Obviously, it was, you know,
decisive game, sent the Mariners to the ALCS,
which they won, by the way, in game one in Toronto tonight, which GoMs.
But you stayed all 15 innings?
Oh, yeah.
We missed our flight back, by the way.
Have you left during that?
Are you fucking kidding me?
We missed our flight back.
Oh, too bad.
He gets you got to take a bike home.
It's like, oh, well, I guess we better go to the airport.
I guess we had to grab an Uber.
I would say, and look, I admit, like, I'm jumping back on sort of the Mariners
bandwagon here or whatever you call a fair weather fan.
But I had going back all through my childhood.
I fucking loved the Mariners.
I was going to like 20 games a year.
You're from Bellingham and you lived in Seattle.
Oh, they used to fly in the stadium.
It doesn't really live in the stadium.
I'm establishing why I went to this game.
So anyways.
But it was like I think I was trying to make a list of the top sports moments for me.
And I don't know where the Sonics come in here because they won some games in the finals.
But this was, I think, the fourth best sports moment for me.
The Seahawks winning the Super Bowl, number one.
Seahawks winning the,
game before that, the NFC championship game against the 49ers, the Richard Sherman
tip interception. And then the Seahawks winning the NFC championship game over the Packers
where they had that miracle comeback. I think those were my first three. This would be number four for me.
I don't remember 95, like vividly enough to like really put it in that top because the Mariners
had a legendary run in 1995. But man, I was talking to Jack Sanders about this. Like,
postseason baseball just hits differently. I think postseason baseball is like one of the best
products, especially, and I know this is going to probably wrinkle some people, but with the pitch
count or with the pitch clock, like it speeds everything up. It's like so fucking intense. Every
at-bat is so intense. It's true drama. I actually think the, I mean, the most underrated thing
that's happened in all of sports in the last five or six years is that they just totally fixed
baseball. And they changed all this stuff. And baseball is the hardest sport to change rules than anything.
and they changed all this
and everyone in like two weeks
into the new rules
was like yep this works
and baseball and also
Ryan O'Hanlon who used to work here at the ringer
and said to me in 2018
he just offhanded
literally at the water cooler
was like yeah
if baseball at the football schedule
where you played once a week
18 times and just single elimination
to be the biggest sport in the world
and then walked back to his office
and I was like
and I think about that
every time this elimination baseball game
where I'm like it is crazy
you could probably say that about every sport
The football just has the best schedule.
I mean, the scarcity is the reason why I think half the reason why it's the world.
Move toward what football has to be schedule-wise.
But the Bay Area's game, D-K., was crazy.
15-8.
Oh, my God.
It was so amazing.
How long were you there?
How long were you in the stadium?
Probably like 4 o'clock until, I don't know, when did the game end?
Like 1230 or something like that.
Dude, shout out.
There's this guy at John Boy Media who does a lot of Yankee stuff with this Ameriress.
fan there and they did a time lapse. They like streamed themselves the entire time. This guy didn't get up from
his chair once. Oh, really? Time lapsed. He sat the chair for six and a half hours.
DK., did you have two different meals you were there for so long? Did you have dinner twice?
No, I just had a hot dog. When did they stop serving beer? Do they stop serving beer?
And then there were seven mornings? Yeah. And then everyone's like getting hungover by like the 13th,
14th inning. People were waking up from their nap? It was, I do want to give the game. It's proper
credit though. Like, it was an incredible game.
I think the Mariners have one of the most lovable
just teams that I've ever rooted for.
You know, Big Denver Cal Raleigh hit 60 home runs this year,
which is fucking insane.
Easily the best year for catcher ever at the plate,
which underrated how much catchers have to do on defense
because I feel like your rotation is also good.
He's part of that too.
He's squatting for 15 innings, you know,
and he made the most insane,
threw a guy out at second.
Like it was like the most accurate throw you could pot.
Like it literally led the guy's,
love right into his leg.
I know.
Squatting that long.
They should just give him a fucking stool.
Who cares?
Let him sit.
Yeah, by the way, if you've noticed my voice is totally fucked,
it's because I was screaming for like six straight hours.
All these catchers' knees are fucked when they're 50 years old.
Let him sit a little stool.
Also, one of the underrated storylines of this game was the Mariners have this
like tradition where the,
They have these salmon race each other.
I think it's in the eighth inning or seventh inning or the eighth and I can't remember what it is.
I knew about that.
Yeah, yeah.
But they have them out.
There's like all the different kinds of salmon will have a race.
And the humpy salmon has never fucking won.
Humpty.
Sorry.
Humpty the salmon.
Are they all racing upstream?
Sure.
Okay.
I think that's kind of like what it's alluding to.
Yeah.
Okay.
Humpy.
Humpy has never won.
I thought that was going to hit way hard.
It's called the Humpy.
It's called the salmon run.
So yes, they're going upstream.
But anyway, he's not, he never had won going back to the beginning of last year,
162.
I think I saw straight losses.
And then he lost in the first race of this game.
And then they were like in the four,
in the 15th thing, they were like,
fuck it.
We're doing it again.
They ran them out of Ken and Humpty won.
He got over the hump.
That's so fucking funny too,
because I saw this on Reddit
there was like a camera fixed on the Mariners
dugout during the fucking salmon run race
in between innings and the Mariners are like losing their minds
they're like all like cheering and shit for fucking Humpy
that's awesome anyway so that was funny too
but yeah the baseball game was absolutely insane
when Polanco hit the game winner
I mean in like to go back to the game
like the Mariners had so many opportunities to end it
they had like guys in scoring position
Both teams left multiple people on base for like two or three innings in a row.
And it was so intense.
I was there with three super hardcore, hardcore Mariners fans.
And I just wanted it so much for them because they, you know, pour their heart and souls.
They watch every fucking game.
Like I really wanted it like for those guys to get to experience that.
And we were just like locked in.
Everybody around us.
We were like high five.
We had like made friends with like these high school kids in front of us.
We were just like fucking high fiving them all the time.
It was just like so fucking fun.
They're like, these guys flew here.
Yeah, they're so fucking boozy.
But yeah, and then when they hit the game winner, just an unreal moment.
Like, it's hard to describe like the, you know, the feeling of elation and relief and joy.
Like, people are crying in the stands around you.
It was so fucking cool.
I think, I think like the feel and energy, the closest thing I could compare to playoff baseball is college football.
Like they're similar in terms of just like that raw passion.
The intensity.
DK, just that you sent us a photo from your seats.
And it's just like it's beautiful.
It truly looks like a theater.
Oh, 100%.
There's just so many people crammed in.
The pacing of baseball where you're always kind of just waiting on every,
every pitch, you're hinging on every moment, every 20 seconds.
The sounds of the ball club are incredible.
Oh, it's the chart.
Dunant, da, nat, da, nat, I think it's the best.
It feels old school.
It feels like you're going back in time when you walk.
Between every pitch, they're like the, the PA people are like doing things.
to pump the crowd up.
They got like when the new pitcher will come in,
they drop the lights in the stadium and have like fire by the
pole pin when he's running in.
It's just the dramatic.
It was so dramatic and cinematic.
It honestly reminded me of like you guys seen major league when,
you know,
the final game that like that whole thing.
It's just I don't know.
There's something nostalgic about it.
Baseball is like one of my first loves in sports.
And so it was just so,
so cool to be able to experience that.
And it's something I'll never forget.
Yeah, and obviously my voice is completely fucked now.
Well, I'm pulling for the Mariners.
Fuck the Dodgers to win.
Hard not to move the Mariners.
Hell yeah.
Thank God you guys don't watch enough baseball to know what happened to the Yankees.
So, yeah, that's...
Also, dude, Mariners, they're crushing it on the merch game.
I feel like the Mariners merch is sick.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I agree, totally.
Because your hat.
I love the color scheme.
It's great.
I need a new team.
You know, the A's are moving to Vegas.
You're allowed to get off the A's.
The A's have fucked over.
You totally have a past.
Honestly, just just reach the Mariners.
The A's don't literally.
deserve their fans less than any team in pro sports.
I agree.
I'm out.
John Fisher,
I can't support that man.
Jump on, man.
Jump on the band by now.
Should I do it?
The Mariners,
this is the first ALCS appearance for the Mariners since 2001.
It was the longest drought, right?
Well,
they had the longest drought of any professional team to make the playoffs,
which they snapped a couple years ago.
And then this was their first,
this year was their first 24 years or something, right?
Yes, first ALCS in 24 years.
Plus, I think first home playoff win in 20.
four years. Wow. So yeah. I mean, in Seattle, people love the Mariners. And it's like been a really hard
relationship, honestly, with them because there's, you know, there's been years where they've basically
just admit they're just in this to look competitive, but not actually win the suit and like win the
playoffs or win the, win the world series. There's all these variables. And they were, they were just
middling for so long. They didn't make the playoffs for 20 something years. And so yeah, it's like,
I think the vibes are out of control good.
There was actually, like after we got outside the stadium,
there was like a band playing Nirvana.
Smells like Teen Spirit.
And everyone was just losing their minds.
I was like,
this is the most Seattle way to celebrate.
It's so funny.
But yeah, it was great.
I also like rooting for cities who gets stripped of teams.
Like, that's why I root for San Diego
because they've lost so much and all they have is the Padres now.
So I root for the Padres.
And same thing with the Mariners losing the Sonics.
I always try to root for those cities.
Yeah.
All right.
We'll be a baseball pod
for the duration
of the ABLEB in playoffs.
Other,
it's so over,
we're so back.
I have to say,
I think this is multiple weeks in a row,
but I think it's so over for Miami.
It's just so over for the dolphins.
The vibes are out of control bad.
I don't want to take away charges
at a cool end of the game.
That was also maybe a play of the day
was Herbert,
you know,
Herbert having that crazy spin out of his sack,
throws to Ladd-McConkey.
Ladd McConkey makes a huge play,
since of the game winning field bowl.
Jim Harbaugh set up to the game,
I'll think about that day,
burned in my brain, that play burned in my brain until they put dirt over me in my grave.
Greg, do you think, who's more obsessed with their quarterback, Harbaugh or Daibol?
Harbaugh.
Different, different types of that.
Harbaugh, it's like a long-term thing.
Daibol is like a short-term thing, you know what I'm saying?
And it's, I think Harbaugh is kind of like a spiritual thing.
And I think Daibald is kind of like a physical.
Yeah, it's a, yes, absolutely.
want to me go go the sizzler catch some grab the but having said that frankly the entire
Chargers Dolphins game has been overshadowed by Tua saying after the game that uh asking a question
about what's wrong why you guys one in five and he's like it starts with the leadership and
he said we have guys showing up late to player only meetings guys not showing up at all to player only
meetings. And frankly, that
one exchange is going to overshadow
the entire game. Tua is also
the captain. He is the leader. It's so
funny to see how players react to this too
who on one hand know what they're talking
about. On the other hand, just totally have no idea what
they're saying. But it's funny to see, like, Andrew
Whitworth saying, this is really embarrassing
that reflects on you. And then Dan O'Alowski
just immediately being like, good for Tua.
This is good that he's doing this.
It was funny to have like simultaneous
players. I have a lot of respect
as being like totally opposite of
I attitude reflects leadership that's the remember the tight attitude well and that's the question is did two
would do that thoughtlessly thoughtlessly being he just shared something that shouldn't be shared
or did he do it thoughtfully saying that he has tried so hard that this is actually needs to be aired out
publicly to embarrass people or did he just kind of share something that really is actually a reflection
of his inability to to herd the cats i don't know that's i think what will come out in the wash over the
next days and weeks is whether it was
calculated or actually just
really poor, but at the end of the day, they're
one and five and they suck, and this is
the end of the regime. The McDaniel, he's
not going to survive this season. There's just
too many things going wrong.
He's going to be a sick offensive coordinator somewhere.
Yeah.
But Kellyn Moore.
I think that
with the leadership thing,
with Tua, it just
lands weird coming off a game
where you threw three picks, right?
100%.
Like just choose your timing.
You know what I mean?
You don't have to bring this up at a game where you arguably were the reason they lost.
Well, maybe he didn't show up to the player's only meeting and he's calling himself out.
Right.
You know?
I just think it's like with him.
That was the joke everywhere that they're having him.
And he does.
Yeah.
With Tua, to me, it's just like, look, I don't know what he's like in the locker room.
I don't know what the level of respect to his teammates have for him is.
But the optics here are really bad because he did not play well.
And he hasn't really played well.
And they're a total disaster across the board.
No one wants to hear from the guy through three receptions that people aren't coming to play around the meetings.
Right.
Like that is, you know, read the room.
And again, things get clit.
Like, people don't forget.
He probably acknowledged that in like an answer like 10 seconds earlier that did not get clipped for social media.
So any other, Craig, who else is so back?
We're so back, Derek Henry.
This proves that I don't know anything about the NFL and nobody knows anything about the NFL.
The Ravens lost.
today, 17 to 3 to the Rams. It was kind of, it never felt like they had a shot. And yet,
Derek Henry, who couldn't sniff 40 yards with Cooper Rush, has 90 at halftime. Looked great.
There were holes everywhere. He ran for 122 yards today. And I don't understand how going into a
game where Cooper Rush is the quarterback. Cooper Rush had 70 yards passing today and a pick, got
benched. How does Derek Henry rush for basically 130 yards in a game against Cooper Rush?
A game where Cooper Rush is the quarterback.
I don't understand, but he did and he looked good.
But honestly, but then the flip side was that sequence at the goal line where they ran him at the 1, didn't get it.
Then like, screw it.
Mark Andrews can tush push the ball.
No, no, no.
They ran, I had this in worst play of the day.
They ran a Mark Andrews tush push twice.
First and second down.
Didn't work.
Then they give it to Henry didn't work stuffed at the one.
Fourth and one.
Fourth and one.
Also has to be said, the Mark Andrews push, it was ruled forward progress.
but the ball popped out.
Yep.
And I love Mark Andrews,
and I got to tell you,
run it out of...
I just...
Why are we tush pushing Mark Andrews?
Why?
Why are we push pushing Derek Henry?
Excellent query, Craig.
Excellent query.
I don't know the answer to that.
Well, they have Derek Henry
pushing Mark Andrews,
and I'm like,
shouldn't you have Mark Andrews
pushing Derek Henry?
Wouldn't that make more sense?
I just, I can't believe that.
I was,
I was in awe of that.
I mean, I think the answer is Mark Aang just probably took a snap at some point, but you're right.
Like, that's dumb.
Whatever.
Or just hand it off to Derek Henry, although he can't get one yard.
No.
He can only get 10.
He can get 10 or negative 2.
It's weird.
Honestly, Derek Henry, when they really do need the one yard, he seems like one of the worst running backs in the NFL.
Now, honestly, though, I do think, I think was Brady announcing that game?
Kind of nailed it.
They pulled a guard at the goal line and the Rams just kind of destroyed him.
But overall, I just, I don't know.
Brady hates pulling guards running in the red zone.
He does.
Yeah.
And then said that a couple times.
Yeah.
So anyway, the Ravens are one in five.
Since the current playoff format started in 2020, one team has actually done it.
Who went one in five and then made the playoffs.
Do you know who?
Since 2020.
Was it Washington in 2020?
It was.
That team sucked.
Was that Heineke?
Yeah, honestly, Taylor Heineke should have beat the Bucks.
It was crazy how close again.
And then the Bucs like,
Was that the year the Bucks won the Super Bowl?
I think it was.
Taylor Hineke genuinely was really close to beating that team,
which is so funny.
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All right, it's time for America's favorite segment. Fart or Schart,
an America's favorite segment, we have some sound drops that you all have made.
So we're going to, we'll see what sticks, so to speak, throughout this.
Oh, God, I didn't like that either. No one likes it.
We commissioned our listeners to create kind of throwback early aughts radio DJ style intro to fart or shock jock theme songs for fart or shart.
So we're going to roll through a different one every week.
So Carlos, you can hit it.
It's time for fart.
Or shard.
I tried to fart and all shit came out.
I just sharded.
I love the obligatory ear horn.
Yeah, like the clip was over and then he just added in nine air horns.
That's exactly how you're supposed to do it.
So great job.
Danny Kelly.
Sorry, I'm like crying.
All right, Craig, I'm actually pitching this one to you, pal.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
We'll take your point, pitch it back to you.
Okay, well, Craig, how are you feeling about Travion and Henderson?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, pose it. What's the question?
Travian Henderson, fart or shart.
You can tell he's never done this before.
I know.
You got to put some mustard on it.
You got to build up to it.
Fart or sure.
It's a hot, nasty shart, in my opinion.
Trayvion Henderson.
I don't think Brable thinks he's that good.
I think the past protection, they don't trust him.
As we saw him today, blocking air as Drake May was scrambling.
That was good.
I'm not sure.
Maybe I'll eat my words here because it's week six and he's a rookie and this is what always happens.
But this one feels a little different to me.
And I think it is closer to a shart than a fart.
I think, like, typically I would be very hesitant to agree with you on this because,
you know, like you said, this is a rookie thing that sometimes it takes a while to get worked up into the offense and get your confidence and know what you're doing and blah, blah, blah.
But the fact, when you say I don't think Vrabel likes him, that worry.
Like that sticks in my head.
I'm like, I don't know if that does worry me because Vrable is, you know, the guy.
I mean, in the past, I was joking about, like, how much he hated Traylon Burks.
Like, Ron Kidd died thing when they traded A.J. Brown so they could get A.
Traylin Burks, and he's just, like, never let Traylon Burks live that down.
Like, I just think the resume's tough.
Like, the starting running back on this team is, I would say, a league average running back in Ramandre Stevenson.
He leads the NFL and fumbles lost.
He had 13 carries for 18 yards today, Craig.
The other running back tore is ACL.
And still, they won't.
commit to him. Remandre Stevenson is going to be the goal line guy I get all year it looks like.
And to me, even if Travian starts playing a little bit more, I don't know if it's going to be
enough. Maybe he'll end up being a guy who get you 10 points a week in your flex. Maybe.
But I'm willing, I mean, he's been farting for six straight weeks. At some point, you're going to
leave a stain. Skid marks on this season.
Ew, do, ooh, ooh. Craig.
Yeah. Any fart of shirts you want to inquire about?
Yeah, Daniel.
Travis E.T.N, the running back in Jacksonville.
A guy whose career was going, you know, okay, I would say.
Nobody really thought.
In the Remandre-Stiefensen came up.
Like, I got to have a league average guy.
Right.
Week 1 through 4 this year.
First month of the season came out so hot.
Third in the NFL in rushing.
Liam Cohen fixed the running game in Jacksonville,
like he fixed it in Tampa Bay with Bucky Irving.
Travis E.T.N. League winner.
one of the best picks you can make in fantasy.
The last two weeks, he's 24th in rushing yards in the league.
He's gone from 15 fantasy points a game down to seven.
Do I panic?
Was he always mediocre in this was just a hot month?
Or did they just play the Chiefs and the Seahawks in the last two weeks?
And that's why.
Is this a fart, a two-week fart or a two-week shart?
I think it's a bit of a shart.
Ooh.
Because...
I didn't expect that out of you.
I think...
You never do.
if you're looking at the rest of their schedule,
they have the Rams next week.
They have the Raiders the week after that,
sorry, they have a buy,
and then they have the Raiders,
which could be good.
But then the Texans, Chargers,
Cardinals, Titans, Colts,
Jets, Broncos, Colts.
They have some really tough defenses
they're facing this year.
And do you feel like,
like, it was a bit of a mirage
what ETIN was doing?
I think a little bit, yeah.
But again, like, it was a little,
it was definitely surprising to see what he was doing
based on what they have on the offensive line.
I started to buy a little bit
like what you were saying about Liam Cohen,
how he helps change the run game
and the different things that he does
schematically help open up run lanes,
but at the end of the day,
I don't think they have a very good offensive line.
I mean, they got pressured.
The Seahawks pressured them 33 times today, I think,
or something like that. It was like ridiculous.
They stacked them seven times.
This is not a great offensive line.
And so that worries me more than anything.
And Bayshall Tootin hasn't done much either.
So,
Hyphid, you're, you lean fart.
I disagree.
I think it's a fart from Travis E.N.
I think maybe the first month was hot, but overall, I...
Do you think he's going to get back to what he was doing early on?
Not necessarily, but I just think the last two defenses they played were really good.
Like the Chiefs on Monday night football, when the Jaguas played them.
Like, today, the Chiefs, Jemir Gibbs had 65 rushing yards versus Detroit.
Like, I just think that the Chiefs have a better run defense than you think.
And the Seahawks run defense is awesome.
Yeah.
Like, the Seahawks are uniquely well suited to take advantage.
of Jacksonville's
weaknesses along the D-line.
I'm not saying
Seahawks dominated.
I kind of just wouldn't
overthink it.
You can't overcome that.
But other teams
aren't capable of that
the way Seattle is.
So I don't,
I think it's a far.
A rare,
a rare disagreement.
A fart and sharp.
That is always,
yeah,
sometimes you got to check,
you know.
I'm not sure what we do.
We might have to call
a third person
to get their opinion.
What's the definition?
I have one fart of shot
I want to just throw out there.
The,
well,
start with the Eagles.
Sure.
Which, I mean, admittedly, the Giants are better than the Eagles, as we say.
Really just the city of Philadelphia.
Really just Philadelphia, the whole, I mean, the Eagles, the Phillies, I don't know how much
baseball you guys actually watch beyond your teams.
Okay.
I don't know.
I don't live under a rock.
I know what happened in the Phillies series.
Okay, great.
I'm thrilled because I hate Philadelphia.
The most pathetic and embarrassing loss to a series since, I don't know, some fifth
hitting a world series that can't even imagine.
But the Phillies, I actually feel bad for the pitcher.
He threw home.
He, like, totally panicked with the basis.
I feel bad for him, too.
I feel horrible for that guy.
But even Phillies fans know they're like, it was his fault.
It also wasn't.
The Phillies had so many issues.
And I know Penn State is not actually near Philadelphia.
It's like three hours away.
However, there is overlap.
Let's be honest, I'm lumping him in.
Penn State firing James Franklin.
If you happen to be a Eagles, Philly's Penn State fan,
if that happens to be you, which I know it's not in Philly,
but there's a lot of people like that,
that was the craziest
you had two of the
you had the one of the worst sports weeks I can remember
where the...
And are you asking if
it's a shart or a fart?
I'm asking...
The entire collapse of the city of Philadelphia's sports teams?
I'm asking if this is like a historic chart.
I'm asking if this is like the shard of all sharks.
It's so over for it's...
This is the smelliest work.
Like every...
You'll have to move and start a new name.
You'll have to start a new life after this shirt.
It's like Al Roker in the White House.
It's going to dominate everything else you've done in your whole life.
I mean, with the Eagles, I think it is a shark.
I'm panicking.
Really?
Really?
They're not good.
They're not one of the best 15 teams in the league, it looks like.
They can't block.
They can't run the ball.
Jalen Hertz is mediocre when the offensive line isn't working and they can't run the ball.
And the defense is not as good.
They're a mediocre team right now.
This is a shark.
It is funny when the offensive line for the Eagles is not.
not humming, how you kind of
remember that Jalen Hertz was like
the 50th pick in the draft.
And you're like, how is that possible?
And you're like, oh, yeah.
Turning on the Tush push too.
Well, okay.
When they ran it four times in a row and they fall
started every fucking time. Revisiting.
Once again, I would like to revisit
when they ban the Tush Push next offseason,
which I think is they should not do.
Ironically, they're kind of but hurt
about the Tush Push being banned.
But when the Tush Push
gets banned, how good
is Jalen Hurts. I'm just saying
it's weird that when the offensive line is the best
and all Eagles fans are going crazy.
However, when the offense is the best they are.
They might agree with you. Some deep down.
Basically it's like a Philly people
within Philly can say it. They don't want outsiders.
Because he wins the games. But the best
offensive line. People spent six months
in our freaking Instagram post. Yeah, because they just
won the Super Bowl. Yeah, they won the Super Bowl.
Arguing about how great Jalen Hurst is.
They won the Super Bowl. It's just watching. Sometimes
you just watch and you remember that Jalen Hertz
can't. Still get mentions about from this fucking
He can't throw on the run, which every now and then when they really need to, you're like,
wow, like you don't think about it all the time because they're rarely losing.
And it's like never super important because they're always winning.
And then when they're winning and he's running and you're like, this guy can't even throw
on the run accurately.
You have A.J. Brown.
You've Devante Smith.
It's like it is at some point the tuxedos are fucked up.
It's just weird.
Both things can be true in that when things are humming, Jalen Hertz can look like one of the best
quarterbacks in the league in the right situation.
And also in the wrong situation, he is not.
one of those quarterbacks that can win despite his team.
Yeah, it's weird because they're still...
Yeah, but they've got Siriani.
Yeah, they have Petulow.
I think it's all...
Sirianni, I realized, is...
One of the winningest coaches of all time.
Sirianni is the Jalen Hertz of quarterbacks, though.
Because, like, it's with Hertz, it's like...
You're not picking up on my sarcasm, I think.
I know, I know.
Obviously, I know.
Craig's like, come on.
But aren't Siriani and Hertz the same?
Where it's like, the record is crazy.
The record of winning in success is unbelievable.
And you're like, what does this guy do?
They can't pass and they can't run.
Siriani doesn't call the plays.
Hertz can't really get A.J. Brown in the ball.
Siriani is there for the vibes.
But they don't run.
And the vibes are fucking terrible.
And so it's like, so what exactly?
What is J.
Hertz accomplishing for this team?
I can't stress enough.
Siriani is there to meet with A.J. Brown once a week to figure out how to make him happy.
It's so.
And he fails every week.
And he's not very good at it.
He's constantly fails.
He's in a book club with AJ Brown.
out.
AJ Brown's right.
That's the funny thing about all of this.
It's like him and Devonte Smith are pissed every week and they're right.
And they're right.
But the funny thing, the funny thing is, and I know we're harping on this, but I just
Sequin at 30-something yards in the first, the first two plays, he broke up big runs,
the whole game.
He had one other big run.
That honestly hurt them.
It was the end of the first half and it wasted too much time and he got 20 yards.
That run was bad.
He shouldn't have done it.
Otherwise, the rest of the game, he had nine rushing runs.
Yeah.
What the fuck is wrong with this team?
Sequin doesn't have 100 yards rushing in any game this year.
I'm just, it's just weird.
The best part about this whole discussion is they play the Giants again in two weeks.
You're going to kick the shit out of this in that one, too.
It's going to be awesome.
I'm circling October.
The Eagles should just trade for Mike McDaniel.
On my calendar, I cannot fucking wait for this.
The Eagles should trade for Mike McDaniel right now.
Okay.
Any intrusive thoughts from the games today?
Yes.
I still think the Ravens are going to win the eight.
AFC North and I think you should bet it.
Wow.
Wait, is this just like a reverse jinx type of the other?
No, no.
No, it's me being pragmatic and knowing exactly who the Steelers are.
Aaron Rogers is 41.
They've had a super easy schedule and coming up.
They have the Bengals on Thursday, even if they win that game.
Then they go, Packers, Colts, Chargers.
They play the Bills.
They play the Ravens again.
They play the Lions.
They have two more Ravens.
This team will end up.
10 and 7 or 9 and 8.
And if you look at the Ravens schedule,
they're on by now and they come back and it's bears,
dolphins, Vikings, Browns, jets,
Bengals. They're going to probably win
all six of those games if Lamar is healthy.
And then their records will be pretty similar
and then who do you want to bet down the stretch?
I think it's a very, it's honestly
like decently likely that
the Ravens win a of season. What are you saying, Craig?
You're saying that Craig and Steelers going to start like 10 and 3
and then drop like five in a row?
Yeah, something like that.
It would never happen.
last year, yeah.
That's my intrusive thought.
TK. I had an intrusive thought.
Please.
Watching the Cardinals play the Colts today.
The Cardinals, I had this thought.
I don't know if I really believe it, but I had it.
The Cardinals would just be better if Jacoby Brissette was their starter.
So Brissette went 27 to 44, 320 yards, two touchdowns a pick.
Kyler, I didn't realize this, Kyle hasn't passed for more than 220 yards this year in a game.
And he has three games with 200.
yards or less.
It's been years since Carl.
I'll do you one better.
And two touchdowns.
Okay.
Yeah, Jacoby percent 320 yards and two touchdowns today.
The last time Carla Murray did that was was 22.
34 games ago.
Damn.
The carcals were awesome today.
Yeah, yeah, they were good.
Craig was like, what is wrong with the culta?
It's a reminder that short quarterback struggle to play on time.
And yeah.
And this is like a question.
This is more like not who's more talented or whatever because that's,
a little more vague.
But who runs the offense better?
I think you could say Brissette might pretty clearly do it better.
I don't know.
Obviously, I think if they kept Brissette as a starter,
probably things would go downhill pretty quickly
and then he'd end up looking bad.
But as you see with a lot of backups,
but I don't know.
That was what I had that thought today.
He had, he was nine air yards per attempt.
He was pushing the ball down the field.
He's throwing over the middle.
I don't know.
They moved the ball at will today.
And Marvin Harrison Jr. was out with a concussion for half the game.
And they were matriculating down the field on every drive.
Kyler Murray remains the most talented quarterback I've ever seen that I just don't even think he...
I don't understand how he contributes to wins.
I don't know.
It's like, yeah, you can't run a regular offense with him, which is, I think, a big issue, obviously.
Any other intrusive thoughts?
Yeah.
I don't think Xavier Worthy's that fast.
Okay.
For a guy who has the fastest 40 time ever, I don't think he's that fast.
Like, I saw a guy catch him today running around the corner, and I was like,
Tyree Kill ran a 4-2-9, and he ran a-exhaver-worthy went a 4-21.
Tyree Kill is 15 times faster than Xavier Worthy.
Yeah.
Xavier Worthy is fast, not explosive?
I think that's the intrusive thought of the year so far.
I just don't think he's not fast.
He doesn't look that fast.
I know he's maybe he's got an ankle injury.
He's a shoulder injury.
Oh, didn't he also hurt his ankle last week?
Yeah, but it's funny if he's a shoulder injury.
Yeah.
He needs the shoulder.
You got to move your arms.
Just watch him.
I'm like, this guy doesn't look like the fastest player in the league to me.
Play of the day, we went through this.
Baker's 14-yard run third and 14.
It was awesome.
Oh, by the way, I want to add something to that.
Baker this year has rushed for nine first downs on third down,
which is first in the NFL tying Jalen Hertz.
Wow.
And Jalen Hertz is are fake.
Right.
Do you really call a sneak of Tush Push a run?
It's bullshit.
No.
It's a push.
It should be a different stat.
He's not running.
He's falling forward.
All right.
We'll stop shitting on the Eagles now.
He's like doing like slip and slide.
Yeah.
Any other plays of the day here?
I think we hate them all.
The Baker runs.
Mark Chase's touchdown was sick.
Yeah.
I want,
worst play of the day?
I think George Pickin's second hurdle has to be there,
but we have to,
I think the worst play the day has to,
the worst play of the day was actually the worst warm-up of the day.
Something happened today that I don't know.
I'm not aware of having ever happened before.
Charverius wore the quarterback for the Colts
collided with a tight end during pre-game warm-ups
and got concussed and missed the game today for the Colts.
And somehow,
against all odds, this was not the worst injury
that Colts suffered in pregame warmups
because Anthony Richardson
broke his orbital bone, which is your face.
And I quote,
sorry, the Colts announced that, quote,
Richardson was doing warmups with elastic bands
when a mishap resulted in being hit in the eye,
and quote, and he broke his orbital bone.
Let's not focus too much on what actually happened
to Anthony Richardson and just remember that two players got hurt warming up.
I can't believe that.
I've never seen that.
Did he get?
I feel like,
I feel like a physical therapist recommends that you move to bands when you don't want to get hurt.
You know?
Bands are the one thing you do when you're like, this is safe.
You know what I was thinking?
I thought about this a lot because my first thought was,
this is a lie.
Someone punched him in the face.
And this is a cover.
Like you got in a fight.
And then I thought and I was like,
you know.
You could come up with something way better.
If they were lying,
they would have,
and they're like, hey,
do you want to know,
you want to get punched,
or do you want to tell the world
you broke your face doing band work?
You'd be like,
tell them I got punched in the face.
I ran into a door.
I had two different leagues,
people with Anthony Richardson and Dynasty,
put them up in the trade block
when the story broke.
And for that reason,
I'm out.
How do you do that?
You know when like you're stretching
like a rubber band,
far and it snaps back and stings you.
Could that...
Maybe it broke.
Like the handle?
I have no idea.
How do you do that?
So, Kyler Murray with the ball?
The band has to hit you so hard to break your orbital bone.
I don't know.
That's crazy.
When Shane Stake and read this, the Colts coach, the press conference, the reporters were
so shocked that they asked them all the follow-ups.
And I actually have never...
Like, I actually think the reporters could tell that they feel that they feel
bad for Shade Stight after they got over
their shock and they kept asking him things and he
caught it, I could tell Shade Scyke
and was also just like, dude, I don't fucking
know, man. Like, I have no
idea. I have no idea that time.
Like, I just
just thought of
Dennis Allen's hatred for Kendrae Miller.
Just came to mind.
So over.
It's like, fuck this guy.
Any other worst plays in the day? I guess
technically there was a warm up. Wasn't even a
play.
Cam Ward had a horrible, horrible fumble.
It was one of those, like nobody was touching him.
He just lost the ball.
What is with the rookie quarterback's doing that this year?
He's done it twice, Dart did it?
Guy's just trying to make a move and just dropping the football.
Yeah, it's just like sheer panic.
Craig was texting throughout the whole game, the Titans game,
about how much they were making him mad.
The Titans are so bad.
They suck.
The Titans suck.
They're horrific.
It's like, you know, watching college,
basketball where sometimes you'll go
10 minutes without a bucket. That's what it
feels like watching the fucking Titans dude. It's like
a first down is an achievement.
There's a famous, I don't
even know what this is from, the context of you,
maybe you've seen this, Craig, but there is like a really
long clip where it was like three
full minutes of a professional
NBA team just throwing up
the worst bricks you've ever seen
and it was like not cut.
If anyone remembers exactly what I'm talking about,
send it to me because I don't remember the details, but
it was like, it's just like
hard to watch. That's the Titans offense. I got
to tell you, though, I think the Jets were worse today.
I think the Jets Broncos game. I know
it's like early out there on the West Coast.
I think the Jets... I do not watch this game.
They didn't turn the ball over.
Stephen Rue is here at the ring or they were the worst EPA
per play for a team that didn't turn the ball over
in 15 years. It was one of the worst
I don't know you guys know the facts of this game
because it was early. You wouldn't believe it if I told it to you.
Like you really, I'm not shit. So that you
would not. So the score of this game was like 13 to 11. What if I told you... They almost won.
The Jets almost won, by the way. But I can't be clear. Stress enough, the offense had nothing to do with it.
The Jets scored a field goal on not one, but two different three and outs. They, oh, they got a fumble on the
first play. The offense gained no yards and they kicked the field goal to go three. The Jets had a 70-yard
kick return, got two yards, and they kicked a field goal. That got up to six.
then they got a safety to get to eight.
The offense had one scoring drive in this game.
Aaron Glenn had the worst clock management of the entire season, I think,
where he basically couldn't decide whether to go for like a field goal at the end of the half or give up.
So they gave up.
They literally decided they'd rather run out the clock with 20 seconds left than trust Justin Fields to get like 15 more yards.
Like he needed 15 more yards to get in field garage.
they had a time out.
Aaron Glenn's like, no, we're going to go to half time.
So if you take those yards out
and you take out the yards from one other drive
that Jets had, the other drive, like the other 10 drives,
I shit you not.
The Jets average four feet per play.
Like the Jets in this game had 82.
The whole game, not taking anything out.
The Jets had 82 yards on offense in this game.
They had negative 10 net yards passing.
They had more sacks than first downs.
Yeah.
Anyway, I actually think Justin,
feels is the worst.
An abomination.
So what's my thoughts?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kurt Warner at the end of that half literally said, I'm speechless and then went to
Twitter and posted a tweet saying, can anyone explain that to me?
They came back at a halftime.
And Rich Eisen is announcing the game with him and says, Kurt, you're not allowed to be
speechless.
You're the announcer.
You have to talk about this.
Kurt Warner is like, I don't want it.
I don't want it.
It was unbelievable.
I've never respected Kurt Warner more than that moment.
Never seen anything like.
I don't want to.
I don't want to.
It was more of the Jets than anyone should have heard.
Speaking of announcers that I don't want to hear, Tom Brady today,
are you guys aware of his segment at the end of games called the Tom Brady LFG player of the game?
I saw this happening on mute and I was debating if I should unmute it.
I'm not aware of this.
I envy you watching that on mute.
But LFG stands for Let's Fucking Go.
It's the Tom Brady
Let's Fucking Go
player of the game
and I want
it's like a one minute interview
with a player
and he interviewed Nate Landman
the linebacker for the Rams
Landman,
call him Landman baby
Yeah well that was
They joke about that
Is it Landman?
You have like 17 tackles
The most of the Rams
at a long time
like 20 years
I have Carlos is going to play a clip
of Brady
asking this guy a question
and what appears to be
the first time Tom Brady
has ever interacted
with a human being
So Carlos you can play it
Yeah you guys sure
you set the tone so physically well all day.
And you came from Zimbabwe.
That's a long ways away.
Your dad played professional rugby.
Does that influence your tackling style at all?
What's a scrum for us, all of us Americans who aren't used to that?
Thanks, Tom.
What's a scrum for us all Americans, not used to that?
Was that his question?
Yeah.
What's a, for us Americans, what's a scrum?
Zimbabwe.
What's that like?
Remember when you were the Beatles?
And I also have the actual
the little like sound bumper whenever they get into the
Let's Fucking Go thing. I have Carlos Qing this.
This is like the intro to the segment.
Carlos, can you play that?
Let's go.
Why have a segment if you can't say the name?
Like having the beep is so weird.
Like Brady's the only one to me.
He'd be like, oh, it'd be cool if it's called Let's Fucking Go.
Like swearing.
Swearing's cool, right?
And then they obviously have to beep it because it's on fucking television.
You're so funny.
And so it's just him with like muffled audio.
And it goes, let's beep go.
Like that's terrible.
Yeah, the audio is weirdly bad quality.
Also, the commercial they have of the guy looking at his Cheerios being like,
you'd be overwhelmed by Tom Brady's brain.
And then like he's on the porch being like, if the safety rotates down, you throw the seam.
I'm like, can't you talk up like that during the game?
I don't know.
Maybe that question didn't translate as well over audio.
But when you watched it, it's so stiff.
been uncomfortable and Brady's eyes are like super squinty.
He doesn't open them.
He's like a vampire.
It's like whatever alien serum he's injected into his eyelids
that don't allow him to open. It's true.
He's so stiff and awkward.
Oh my God. And he's like, we call you landman
over at Fox. Nate.
Nate's like, thank you.
Do you got a landman or landman?
And he's like, I like both.
Oh, anyway.
I just, I love that.
they're still like forcing like these like segments
like Tom Brady play
it's like the Gruden Grindr is like yeah
you can't believe it
other stuff that happen I want to just note
stadium pulse I want to just note
that Evan McPherson hit a 67 yard field
goal today which literally is the
NFL record and Matt Lafleur
fucking iced him and it didn't count
but I want to note that literally a 67
yard field goal was made
I think that should count for the
And Cam Little made a 70-yarder in the preseason.
Pre-season doesn't count, but like that should count.
I agree.
But I don't know.
It's just kind of funny that he made his 67-year field goal just doesn't count.
It's just funny.
Chris Boswell went to make a field goal today, and then just the field just gave way.
Like he just created a divot.
Yeah.
Heinz Field or Accrager Field was a mess today.
You meant like straight out of like the Batman.
Dark Night Rises, yeah.
that was Heinz Ward running
I know but it was like
it's supposed to look like Steelers
wasn't it? Yeah
Yeah
The bunch of Steelers were in that
were in those scenes
The Arthur Smith Sean Hockely
They shot Gotham in Pittsburgh
Yeah
Because of the bridges
Good standard for minute
Most bridges of any city in the world
Pittsburgh Pennsylvania
Oh I did out
Yeah
I didn't know that
Why they call Portland Bridge City then
That's a little bit misleading
They call Portland Bridge City
Yeah
Maybe they don't
I think they did
I didn't know that
I certainly didn't know that
There are a lot of
I'm gonna text my brother
He lives in Portland
There's a lot of bridges in Portland also
Hold on
I'm taking my brother
It's definitely called bridge city
All right we'll see
Okay
Fucking see
Well they didn't say
They have the most bridges
In the world city
They just have bridges
Well that's true
That's true
Are we gonna wait for
Are we actually waiting
Yeah let's wait
Let's wait for Scott to respond
Hold
Hold
Hold
Yeah
If it's
Kill some time.
Hurry.
Arthur Smith,
Sean Hockey Awards.
Oh, wait, he responded.
He responded.
Really?
Wow.
He said,
I said, do they call
Portland Bridge City?
He said,
not really, no.
He's lived there for,
I don't know,
10 years.
All right,
fair enough.
Ask him what they call it.
What they call what?
Portland.
They probably call Portland.
What do you mean?
What's the nickname?
What's the nickname?
Dude,
is every city of a nickname?
Yeah.
What's L.A.'
NIC name?
L.
City of Angels. No, no one fucking says that. The nickname is L.A.
Oh, if that's a nickname, then I guess, but that's not really a nickname.
I lived in L.A. for years, and literally not one person who lived in L.A. referred to it as the
City of Angels. No, they kick you out as you say that. Yeah, you said you right out.
Outside of New York's nickname, what you say? Is New York's nickname the Big Apple? Nobody says that.
You say the city. No one refers to as New York. It's just the city. I'm going to the city.
Yeah, but you say that about any.
city. Yeah, but New York it's different. I call it the big apple. There's like a two hour radius
around New York that the city is New York City. See, that's your East Coast coming out because
people refer to San Francisco as the city. Yeah, I'm sure. The Warriors jerseys literally
literally say the city. Yeah, that's fine. And the town, which is like, pick one. Craig, what about the
town? The town. You can't be the city and the town. Fucking pick one. Town is also like a
nickname for Hollywood, right? Okay, but you also have jerseys, don't you for the Warriors that said
the town? I think so, yeah. But the city ones are like the city by the
the city, people refer to San Francisco as the city.
I don't think that counts as a nickname either.
Yeah, Kai points out of the town is Oakland.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Marshaun-M-Shu's always talking about town.
The city stole it from the town.
Got it, got it, got it.
Isn't Memphis Bluff City?
I don't think, I think what we're learning is the,
nicknames are like people who don't live there.
It's like, it's like tractor Cito.
It's like, who's actually calling these cities by these nicknames?
Derek Henry's like, what'd you call me?
I don't think L.A. has a nickname.
I don't think LA counts.
It's like Ted.
It's like Tet for Ted McMillan where people who know them clearly don't say that.
Yeah.
Do you remember how we were talking about how no one calls Peyton Manning the sheriff?
Someone, someone like tweeted out me that said a lot of people used to call Peyton Manning the sheriff.
So just wanted to point that out.
Today in the Patriots Locker and Will Campbell, the left tackle was like, literally
Bill Campbell was like, oh, Drake May was like, yeah, big country.
And the reporters were like, oh, they're like, oh, they're.
They call you big countries?
Is that your nickname?
He's like, no, just Drake calls me that.
That's D.K.
with City of Angels in that way.
City of Angels.
And the Big Apple.
I can't wait.
I loved my time going to the Big Apple to visit.
It's not a ton of apples.
Arthur Smith, Sean Hockey Award, Coach Ruff to pitch you off.
Third try here.
We talked about the Mark Agenius, Tush Pushes,
talked about the weird calls in the Patriots game.
Wanted to just acknowledge that Georgia Auburn
insane fumble gate that happened.
Good example of instant replay.
I watched it and I was like,
that's the worst call I've ever seen.
Watched it a hundred more times and was like,
actually, they got it right.
So the call was right.
But also, George was like shit.
But spiritually, is the call right
if you have to watch it 100 times to figure it out?
That is my rule of instant replay.
But I did have to watch it 100 times
because they synced it and I was confused
about how they synced it.
Okay.
But yeah, you're right.
Anyway.
And then another weird thing here.
Sean Hockeley actually today did call it Bluff City.
What?
Memphis?
No, that was my first joke ever, no.
Okay.
What are you talking about?
I don't know.
We probably should end the show here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wait, we need to burn someone.
We do need to burn.
Oh, yeah, let's burn somebody.
Yeah, do you guys prepared to burn.
Once again, I forgot to do this part of the assignment.
We burned Jail Loddle, Week 1, Mark Andrews, week two, Isaiah Pachecoe,
Calvary,
week four,
week five,
Trayvian Henderson.
I do have one person.
Okay.
Jerry Judy.
What is he for?
You're gonna play him?
That's a great one.
He had 13 targets today
to jack shit.
Like literally he's useless.
Jerry Judy,
I,
he's like 45 points in the entire season.
He's barely a Rico Doudal.
I thought about saying him before high fits,
but then I realized no one's actually playing Jerry Judy.
Does anyone playing Jerry Judy?
You basically,
there are a lot of players playing really well
that you drafted instead of Jerry Judy.
I'm all for this.
13 targets for 43 years.
You're right.
People aren't probably playing him,
but he's one of the worst picks you could have made.
Yeah, the only case is D.K.'s right.
Maybe people aren't playing him,
so it's like not even a discussion.
My candidate was Tony Pollard,
who I think is delivering the most flaccid year
in fantasy of all the time.
He is giving you the most milk toast,
nine points a game,
and you don't know what to do with them.
And today, Tajay Spears basically played as much as him,
and I kind of just think it's like he's cooked
and the Titans are awful. I would give it a Pollard because
that's fine because people probably
it's way harder to bench Tony Pollard than Judy.
Like it's so much easier to replace a receiver
like Judy than it is to replace Tony Pollard.
Because he's like fucking grinding his way to 10 points
and watching it is just like pulling teeth
because the Titans can barely get across midfield.
The Titans, it's just over for the Titans.
It's so bad.
It's terrible.
It feels like a miracle when the Titans get to the Red Zone
and then they don't score
because Cam Ward just drops the football.
So it's like I have a running back on the worst team in the league,
which is just one of the most awful fantasy experiences you can have.
Yeah.
All right, yeah, Tony Pollard.
You convinced me.
Sorry, Tony, but I like you as a player, but I can't take it anymore.
The Titans are the hardest watch of any team right now.
We have now burned two Titans, so the first double of the season.
All right.
Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig.
Thank you, Kai.
Thank you, Carlos.
Thank you.
Roni, thank you, awesome.
Thank you.
to all the fans
in Seattle Mariners game.
Yeah.
Thank you to everyone for listening.
Can people say M's, go M's?
Is that a thing?
Okay.
Go M's.
I didn't know that.
GOMs.
Some people say goms.
I don't know if they pronounce it goms.
GOMs, but it's like a joke on Twitter
is to say G-O-M-S.
GOMs.
Cool.
There's one of my buddies, Joe.
He likes to say,
go-N-R-S,
which I don't know if I quite can get there with that one.
Yeah, that one feels like it could be.
That's bad for a few reasons.
one of which is like, that's Goner's.
Which for a team that exits the playoffs
famously is pretty terrible.
It's got a stupid.
But there's an apostrophe.
So it's all right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Goner's.
It's really funny.
Goner's.
I say goms.
Yeah, that's probably better.
Thank you, Lord.
Lord.
Thank you, Cisco.
I was trying to decide.
Someone told me to do Megan Trainor
because it's all about that base
with Big Darmes.
bumper, but I wouldn't, Cisco instead, because he's got dumps like a truck, truck, truck.
I actually don't know.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
Oh, like ass, like bass has, you don't know the thong song, apparently.
Oh, which is one of the biggest songs of all time.
Thong song is by Cisco?
I didn't know that.
Come on.
I didn't know it's like Cisco.
This is borderline.
Oh, Cisco SISN is.
Hanson is.
Q O.
So in my, in my world, this is borderline.
you like high fits not knowing what hanson was i mean i know the song obviously but i also when you said
cisco i actually just spelled it like the company i kind of was like me too me too
logistical solutions do you guys know the thog song or not i know the thongs yeah i heard it i couldn't
have spelled cisco for my life to be saying it i actually know i forget about it tell me how it goes
she got dumps like a truck truck truck truck the eyes like what no i'm not going to do the whole thing
Craig's disgust.
Dump says since that song came out
coming to mean shit, not ass.
Although Dumpers, Kyle Raleigh's
bringing it back, but...
Yeah, big dumper.
Big dump.
When he hit his home run today.
Dumps like a truck.
Big Dumber. He does have a huge ass.
I'll give him that.
It's his powerhouse.
Goodbye, everyone.
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