The Ringer NFL Show - Week 6 Winners, Losers, and Kyle Pitts Scores a TD

Episode Date: October 17, 2022

We recap Week 6 by giving out awards for the biggest winners and losers of the weekend. We cover the underdog bonanza, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers looking their age, Kyle Pitts scoring a TD, Ja'Marr Chase’s re-emergence, Rhamondre Stevenson and the Zero RB boom, and we induct our next player into the 2022 Fantasy Burn Book. We also hold a special case of Fantasy Court involving Craig and his friends. Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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First episode drops. August 29th. For the Ringer Fantasy Football Show, my name is Dana Heuth. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck. We are in person. Yeah. Week 6 of Sunday is over. We're to go through categories.

We're here in Los Angeles right now. Sunny Los Angeles. It was actually really clouded. It rained a lot. I brought the shitty weather down. Sorry, guys. He brought Seattle with us. With you.

We're literally talking about the weather. Boy, do we need it, though. Good start. Okay. Winners and losers of the week. First winner, Underdogs. Literally, the underdogs won everything. Giants beat the Ravens, which we'll get that.

lead with that, of course. Yeah, obviously. We'll get to it. Falcons, whoops, the 49ers. That game was weird. You're burying the lead. There's one crazier upset.

Steelers beat Mitchell Trubisky. Hey-oh. Beat Tom Brady in the Buccaneers. I never thought I'd say that sentence. That's four different reasons. Jets beat the Packers. Yeah. This is all nuts.

First of all I just looked at it. Also, we're not even counting a weird, it doesn't count as upset, really, but Patriots did beat the Browns. If you put all those in a parlay, if you put 10 bucks in that parlay, for Giants, Falcons, Steelers, Jets, Patriots,

you would have won $10,000. Wow. 9,800, but I'm around. Wait, for $10,000? Yeah, I think I did that. Yeah, yeah. So it was $1,000 to 1?

Yes. Oh, my God. Which is really 10 plus $10,000. Yeah, so you should have done that. Obviously, yeah. We get every, we should do a segment every week called a betting hindsight 20-20. You should have now. The barley is the week in retrospect.

Yeah, we're like, so the bills won today by four. bet the bill's minus two and a half. Should we start tweeting out graphics and put the wrong day in it and be like, wow, I can't believe we got that right? That's pretty good. Can we start with the no country for old men for just Rogers?

I mean, Aaron Rogers losing a game to Zach Wilson at home. Aaron Rogers lost back-to-back games versus the Giants and Jets. Packers are in calamity. When is the last time somebody lost back-to-back games to the Giants and Jets? I mean, considering a few games those teams have won in last.

It's certainly been more than 10 years. Decades, probably. Probably. I bet that hasn't happened in the 21st century. Do you guys feel like the Packers are broken? What is the problem here? Do you think this is an Aaron Rogers thing? Is it just like the entire team is clearly declining for numerous reasons?

I think it's the latter. I mean, I think obviously Rogers isn't playing great, but the loss of their receivers is certainly like a big deal. Lots of especially DeMonte Adams is clearly a big deal. I don't think their run game is clicking as much as they wanted to. Their defense just hasn't been as good as I think we expect. I think that's a big one. I think Packers' defense

is an extremely talented unit that is not playing up to their standards. This whole team is the arrested development joke. It's like the dead dove do not eat and then you open the bag. You're like, oh, I don't know what I expected. It says like offense without Devante Adams, do not open.

It's that plus the defense. So lack wrote a great piece for the ringer this week or last week. I never know when Sundays this week or that. Anyway, he wrote it last Wednesday, whatever. That was excellent. And one of his main points is Packers have seven first-run picks

in their defense. And the oldest one. one's 27 years old and they have good free agents. Like how is this defense bet? But they hired Joe Barry to be their defensive coordinator and like he hadn't had a good defense before. Again, dead dove, don't eat. Like they're playing about as well as you'd expect. And every aspect, their special teams, again, remember how embarrassing that loss was when the playoffs when they lost to the Niners?

The Jets blocked a punt today. It's like everything's going wrong for this team. But we watched the game today with Bill and Mina Kimes. Mina pointed out a couple times, Rogers honestly was kind of missing a couple deep shots as well. Like there were a couple throws in this one where... He like left it short or whatever. He needed the benefit of the doubt to Rogers usually, but I will say, Rogers doesn't look that sharp either.

I mean, yeah, it's across the board, though. I'm looking at some of the stats for the Jets for this game. Like, how did they win this game? They were one in 11. One for 11 on third down. Zach Wilson threw for 110 yards. One for 11 on third down? Zach Wilson passed for 110 yards.

Imagine has 10 completions. Imagine if you could look into the future and you could see that this game, The Jets Packers game would be 27 to 10, but you didn't know who won. And you also knew that Zach Wilson threw for 110 yards. How much money, would you put your entire mortgage down that the Packers won that game? Yes. Where Zach Wilson throws for 110 yards and one team scores 27 points. This bizarre.

I'm not going to lie. I just looked it up because I literally couldn't believe that the Jets won for 11 and third down. I wonder how many teams in NFL history have won. Seriously. One for 11 and third down. But that's what happens. You block a punt. Anyway, Packers are awful.

The only team that it probably could feel worse. today is the bucks, again, imagine if I told you that the Steelers, Kenny Pickett would get hurt and Chubisky would come in and that Tom Brady could lose to Mitchell Chubisky in the bus. Like, Tom Brady was screaming at his offensive line. Even by Brady standards, I was like, wow,

that looks kind of mean. Well, he has no wife to yell at now. Whoa. Sorry, just a joke. Just a joke. I'm not married yet. What are you worried that Brady's going to like come out and hear this? Well, I know my wife's not listening. Yeah, man. I can't, first of all, the Pickett concussion thing,

if Pickett was concussed there, then there are hundreds of concussions going undiagnosed every week because it was a pretty innocuous fault to the ground. And I'm glad it took him out if he was suffering from symptoms, you know, all that stuff. But man, we see hits like that hundreds of times a day? I completely agree, not hundreds, but I completely agree that between two,

like not the, obviously the second injury that two has suffered was horrifying, but the initial one that happened on Sunday, not Thursday football. That fall did, didn't look all that crazy either, yeah. It looked totally innocuous. We were talking about this earlier today, Craig, of exactly that.

Like, I feel like I've seen the quarterback fall down and hit his head in the back so many times. It feels like there are dozens more of these than we. Yes, and this one looks like one of the more innocent ones I've seen. But anyway, Pickett was playing fine. You know, they're not giving him a ton to do. And then Mitch comes in and just pulls four third and longs out of his butthole.

Where did that come from? I have no idea. No, but that was low-key, like two of the best drives I've ever seen Chubiskeb's career. Somehow off the bench. Maybe he thrives when he thrives when he's the guy coming in to save the day, but he can't be the guy who's

expected to win the game in the beginning. Yes. Maybe it's just like he doesn't get like, he doesn't think about it all week. He doesn't have over-thinking. He doesn't like the pressure of knowing he can be replaced. When he's the last option, he's feeling great. Craig, I want to ask you this. What do you think of, obviously this was a win, but what is your impression of the offense, like the way that it runs, like the things that they do? I'm looking at their rushing list here. Eight guys carried the football, quote unquote, rushed. And like half of them are the receivers. Like, they had, what is this Matt Canada offense? How you feel about this? It's just like, I just feel like it's a lot of ornaments on like a really shitty Christmas tree. And it's the weirdest box score I've ever looked at in my life. Every receiver. When is the last time, four

wide receivers on a team had a carry. Hold on, hold on, wait. I'm looking at this rushing box score, and I've never seen more players with a carry than a catch in an NFL game in a box score. It's weird. There's just tons and tons of like end arounds and sweeps and things. And they all like were like for like six yards. They weren't working.

Well, no. So yeah, Deonti Johnson, two carries for eight yards. Claypool, one carry eight yards. George Pickett, one carry, one yard. Stephen Sims, one carry negative five yards. Kenny Pickett had a couple carries. Trimiskey had a couple carries, Najee.

The point is they had 2.7 yards per carry as a team. They had under three. They're doing all this stuff. But overall, it's in, I guess if you could be polite,

you could say, well, they have a really bad offensive line and they have a really developing quarterback situation. And Canada's, not Canada of the country,

but like the guy is trying to work around all that. In reality, I kind of just think he's making everything worse and it's unwatchable.

And I kind of can't believe that the Steelers won this game. It's all, it all honestly came down to Mitch Trubisky converting like three.

huge third days. They're all like plus 15 plus yards. But forget the Steelers' offense. Dude, all the good Steelers defenders are hurt. Obviously, T.J. Watt missed this game. Minka. More or less, every important Steelers secondary player missed this game. Got quarterbacks out. Yeah. It blow, like, what I can't understand,

look, I know that football never makes sense one to one, and you could always do the game. Well, this team beat that one, and that team beat, you know, you could always do that. However, seeing what the bills did to the Steelers last week and how literally from start to finish when Josh shot 400 yards at a half time, the 98-year touchdown to Gabe Davis.

Like the moment that Josh Allen walked in this field, they were shredding the Steelers defense. And then their good players were not playing this week. And Tom Brady watched what the bills did, that they were incapable of moving the football. My big picture thought, like, watching that early slate where, you know, the marquee games were later in the day, and we just had this chaos of the one Eastern slate,

none of these teams that we thought would even be, like, close to contending, feel close. Like the bucks, the Packers, every team feels a little bit further away from being great except really for the ones that played in Sunnative Football I mean Brady even said it

I don't know when it was like a week ago or two weeks ago he was like what are you seeing across the league and he's like a lot of bad football dude like yeah I'm like yeah and then he went out and lost and he lost this too like

but the bucks the Packers the Rams in theory with the three best teams of the conference those teams fucking suck I'm telling you there's three good football teams It's Chiefs, Bill's Eagles, that's it. Dude, I also, I hate to say it, but it's not, this is like

unquantifiable, but if you ask me, like, who's the fourth team? I swear to God, it's the Patriots. Well, that's because we just spent eight hours with Bill, so it makes sense. No, that's not it. We've been indoctrinated. They can, like, run and play defense, and I feel like you can say that about, like, five teams,

max, maybe four. It's a very old school line of thinking, defense and run in the football. But it's true, like, everything just the way, like, but the Well, these teams all uncommon is they can't fucking run. I'm stepping on it, but like, A.G. Dillon, I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed. They can't run the ball.

Like, A.G. Dillon, he's not droppable because if Aaron Jones gets hurt, but, like, they can't play him. The Rams cannot run the ball. Camakers just quit. We don't know what the hell is to deal with that. Yeah. And I think the Bucks had under three yards of carry today. No, they had exactly three yards of carry today, too.

And it's like, they're all the same problem. Their offensive lines are destroyed, and they can't get over it. Agee Dylan had 10 carries for 41 yards. Aaron Jones. nine carries 19 yards. Well, why don't you move on to a team that can run the ball? You're 5-1 New York Giants. Can you say, I'm sorry, I didn't hear you.

Can you say that again? Five-and-one New York Giants. When is the last time they were five-in-one? Do you know? It was 2009? Wow. This is insane. I just want to point that Daniel Jones

just beat the back-to-back MVP's of Lamar Jackson and Aaron Rogers. This was the hard part of their schedule. Like, the most fun event that a fan has is when the schedule comes out, and you're like, win, loss, win, win, win, win. It was like, oh, Ray. Havens Packers. Those are two losses. Hope we start good before. The fact that the Giants have emerged from the hardest part of their schedule, five and one

and now get to go to the Jaguars and they still have to play Washington. They're so bad. I can't believe that they're five and one. It's like they don't even have any receivers. How are they doing this? Extremely impressive. It's all the cliches. It's a mix with every cliche from Ted Lasson

every cliche you've ever heard about football, which is, I hate to say, but there's no way to explain it. The hole is greater than the sum of the parts and they don't beat themselves. Belief. They talked about belief on the... A lot of grit. But it's true because if you look at this game...

It's everything Joe Judge said he was going to instill in the team? Like, actually, right. Because he's like, Dable actually knows how to like run an on offense. There's no way I can talk about this without sounding cliche. But when Dable came to the Giants, his thing is, it was smart, tough, independable. Mm-hmm. And that's this team. Like, they're high IQ.

Like, they don't make mistakes. Like, at the end of the day, the Ravens blew the game at the game at the game at the the end because Lamar turned it over. Like Lamar, like, had the high snap and he picked up the ball and then just tried to like, you know, sometimes they try to make a play instead of taking a small L. Right. Turned into a much larger L by throwing a pick. That's the first pick of the giant season.

But Wink Martindel blitz the ever-loving shit out of them. And I don't know why Mark Andrews kept being open, but he was. But other than that, like, they didn't really give up. The only play that was huge was Kenyon Drake had that long run, but they had 10 men on the field. So for them, I mean, I was bidding yourself. But other than that, they really, the whole game kind of, it came down to the end and I don't know. It's

crazy. Is this a double-edged sword for you because we talk about this all the time? I can't wait. Not having expectations. It's great. I gotta tell you. Oh, I thought you were going to go like... It feels phenomenal. I thought you were going to go down the street of like Daniel Jones is going to win 12 games. I'm just talking about like...

I'm inconsistent. I say the worst thing that could happen is they win 11 games and they keep Daniel Jones. Yeah, but if they win 11 games, it's because Daniel Jones is playing well. Yeah, but who cares? You got to see the forest of the trees here. What are we actually looking for? We're looking for like a dynasty, a franchise quarterback.

One year of like slipping into the playoffs. Who cares? I think that. Plan for the future. I actually think that I already would hate myself like two months ago if I'd heard that I would say this in October. But I think the Giants are kind of walking the exact fine path of like they're playing well enough to make the playoffs.

But they still won't keep Daniel Jones. Or like they can franchise tag him. That's fine. But I still think that they would draft a quarterback in the draft. And I will say I did kind of want four wins in the. season just to get the first pick of the draft and have your pick of the quarterback. But, and they're incredible at this point. Like, five, the Bills and Chiefs, you just played this and we're like, oh, that'll be the best

game in the regular season. They don't have as good of a record as the New York Giants. Well, the bills do. I don't, yeah, but don't think of it, that way. Don't you think, though, that if the Giants, let's say they won three games, they bottomed out, then they had the first pick in the draft and they got C.J. Straub, they would release Daniel Jones and just start C.J. Stroud week one. Now it feels like if the Giants make the playoffs with Daniel Jones, they'll franchise tag him,

they'll draft like a second round quarterback who will come in and like replace Daniel Jones in week eight if Daniel Jones isn't playing well and it's just that like ugly Kenny Pickett Trubisky scenario rather than just like the we drive to Joe Burrow Joe Borough's gonna start like I feel like that is the path I'd rather have than like this and we'll keep Daniel Jones

and if he doesn't play well enough then we'll bring in the back time I don't know counter sometimes it works I have a counter for you Craig which is the Giants have won three games after trailing by double digits this year which is already tied for the most in a single season in the team history. The other seasons that the Giants...

I know, already. The other seasons that the Giants have overcome double-digit deficits. Super Bowl years. Two of those three, they won the Super Bowl. Every win this year for the Giants has been a one-score game. Pretty impressive.

So, anyway, giant scoring the Super Bowl. Is Dayball... Where's Dayball right now, like, in the New York hierarchy? If Eli Manning and Brian Daiball, there's only one table left at a restaurant right now. Are you just doing your bill in person? I know, it's a great Bill bit. It's a blatant rip-off of Bill, but I think it's a fantastic hypothetical to figure out where

somebody is. Who gets the seat right now? It's Eli. Are you sure? Yeah. It's David. Eli just does not leave his home and wherever he's Louisiana tennis. I don't know.

I bet it's dayball. No, Eli gets the seat. But Dayball is the hot guy. Among the people who actually are in New York right now, I mean, it's not even close. He's the most popular. It's like Lauren Michaels is still number one. He's getting any table he wants. Jerry Seinfeld?

No, those guys have their own rooms in the restaurant. They don't have to ask. He just got there. But no, I mean, the Yankees don't win this series and Aaron Boone would be allowed in the restaurant. Like, Judge or Daibald, who gets the table? It's table. Judge is going to have to, like, be the bus boy at this rate.

I don't know. Joe Judge? Oh, I also thought Joe Judge. No. I was like, what is. I also was like, what is that question? I'm so glad you clarified that. When you were like, Judge is going to have to be the bus boy,

I was like, why would Aaron Jones get 62 home runs? Oh my God. Anyway. I'm happy for you, Hyfitz. This is fun. It is funny that it's like bittersweet every win because you like kind of want to lose. Because once the see, no, the rational we should lose thing is purely an offseason endeavor.

Totally. Once the season. It's hard to do that. I learned this most, was it, I can't remember time has bled together in the pandemic. But I think it was 2020. The NFC East was so bad that I realized that. the Giants had a snare way they could win the Ns East at 6 and 10. And I wanted them to do it so badly because I thought they could beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

But that's like a bit. That's like kind of fun. No, I was serious. Because they almost beat the bucks on Monday Night Football that year. And they lost on a past interference, like, bullshit call in the end zone. And I was like, they can beat the bucks. And that was like, that could have been the Giants. Taylor Heineke.

Taylor Haneke. That could have been. Well, dude, I mean, you're talking to, I mean, when the Seahawks, when Pete Carroll took over the Seahawks, they were 7 and 9 made the playoffs and then beat the Saints. and one of like the greatest, like, and from my point of view, it was one of the most fun playoff games to watch ever. That's true. You know, like, be squared. Yeah.

Okay. Next one here. Cooper Cup Award player you wish you had drafted more of. I think it's just all the running backs that were available. These are 100 overall. Honestly, this category could be like the new league winners, like this year's league winners. A couple guys. I want to mention number one, Mandre.

For Mondre Stevenson for the Patriots. Just the guy's taken over. He is, he's, I know that there's an injury situation. Damien Harris is out. they've got Ty Montgomery's injured so like there's some extenuating circumstances here but like the workload he's getting is rare

it's like this has never had this hardly ever happens you have to go back like 10 years to the last time that anyone running back was getting this kind of workload with the Patriots and so like Ramadre Stevenson he's been really great 25 points PBR this week he's the RB 2 on the week so far last week he also had a very good week

he was like top 13 or 12 third most rushing yards for a Patriots running back under Bill Belichick last week crazy. Yeah. So he's been, you know, if you took him in, I don't even know, remember when you could have got him. Like the 10th round. Yeah, 8th, 9th round.

Like, this is turning out to be great. Obviously, the situation's panning out for him to, like, make the use of that opportunity. But I just think, number one, he looks really, really good. Like, he looks to me, like one of the most talented runners in the NFL. Yeah, like you said, I have it. The Pats are, like, one of the only teams that can actually, like, efficiently run the football consistently. Yeah. So congratulations if you got Mondre.

Number two, Breez Hall, who obviously had to. top 100, but... You had to take him a little earlier because he's a second rounder, and there was a little bit more hype around him. There's less of a... I think there was less of a concern about a rotation,

although that didn't play out. Like, obviously, Michael Carter was a big part of the rotation to start out, but he's taken over. He is now, like, by far the leadback for the Jets, and he's looked awesome. He's looked incredible. Basically, all the hype

that we had for him around the draft is, he's, like, living up to that hype. So... Weird question. If you guys, for whatever reason, I don't know why you would have to do this. If you had a draft, your fantasy team for next season, like right now. Right. Yeah. Would Breeze Hall be like a top

like a first rounder? Is he like a top? I think you'd be like a second round. Well, I don't know because this is like he's doing almost Jonathan Taylor thing. Why wouldn't Breece Hall be like, are there nine players you would take ahead of of Breece Hall? Dude, he's the RB6 right now. That's the thing. He's incredible. You know why there are nine players I would take ahead of Breece Hall? They're mainly wide receivers and it's literally because of what Breeze Hall is doing this year. Totally. Yeah, exactly. The next guy in this category,

is Kenneth Walker, who is the rookie for the Seahawks that came in after Rashad Penny got hurt. He was fantastic. He had over 100 yards today, a touchdown. Looked. Incredible. Yeah. It looked really, really good. And the whole kind of thesis behind this category is like, this is like, this is why you don't need to draft a first one running back.

This is why you don't need to spend $68 on Christian McCaffrey. Because Ramandre Stevenson, Breeze Hall and Kenneth Walker, you could get all of them for a combined $20 in a draft. Right. And I know it's easy to say, like, in hindsight, look how good these guys are. The whole idea behind kind of like the zero-rb theory that we were talking a little bit about in the off season is just like you can get a lot of these guys off waivers and you know. Injuries happen. Yeah, injuries happen. Running back is just like the easiest position to kind of pluck random guys and then bring them into startup.

The argument is very simple. It is here are the top wide receivers in fantasy football this year. Stefan Diggs, Cooper Cup, Justin Jefferson, Tyree Kille, Jamar Chase, Marquis Brown, J. J. Brown, Jailene Wall, Devante Adams, A.J. Brown, more or less, and the Dibal. after that, more or less exactly the guys that were drafted, almost in the order that they were doing. Yeah, the ADP has been like in crazy, it's been crazy accurate. It's very

accurate to where it was. Meanwhile, if it's like, you're looking at running back and you're just like, okay, who are the top running backs in fantasy this season? Sequin. Who was the second rounder? Chub was a second rounder. Yeah. McCaffrey and Eccler were first rounders. Four net was a second or third rounder. Breeze Hall, fourth or fifth rounder.

Josh Jacobs, six rounders. Miles Sanders, Derek Henry, Dalvin Cook, Ramondre, Clyde, Jamal Williams. It's just Damien Pierce. Doesn't make my point as strong as I thought. No, I mean, but... The point is more just that

you don't have to spend a first rounder on a running back. Yeah. I mean, well, like, the first round is just such a... I don't know, the opportunity cost of getting that pick wrong is so strong that that's why I think a lot of us were talking about our fears

of taking a running back in the first round during the off season because it's like, this is exactly why. There's just so much volatility with some of these guys sometimes. Yeah, I mean, I think one of the biggest benefits of prepare, I know I like advocated for don't prepare for your fantasy draft, but I think where you can extract

the most value in preparation is finding the running backs in the, in like the muddled backfields that are going to emerge. And like guys like J.J. Zacharise in and Evan Silva's the world, they're very good at helping you identify who these guys are going to be. And like, Ramandre was a really big one this year

and it's panned out. Yeah. I'm going to give a winner to the fantasy Everyone who didn't listen to us on our Wednesdays. Stubborn fantasy managers. On Wednesday, we power-ranked all the players to cut. I power-ranked all the players to cut. A lot of those guys did really well today.

Yeah. Let it be know, I did not drop Chase Claypool, nor did I advocate for dropping Alan Robinson because I'm a stubborn bull. I don't think we decided Claypool needed to be dropped. Did we? I can't remember exactly what he said, but we definitely said to drop Alan Robinson. Oh, yeah, he was number one. We all agreed he was easy.

He went off. Also, the other thing. I think, so I actually still don't trust this. Like, if you still have him, trade him now. No, I completely agree. Alan Robinson, if anything, it reaffirmed to me that Robinson is like, not. Sal, sell, sell, sell. Well, because if you watch him play, he is a smaller version of what Jimmy Graham was like, the tight end when he was like 34 and he couldn't move.

And all Jimmy Graham could do was like, he was really good. He needs targets at like the five yard from like five yards. He just jump balls. Alan Robinson is just that there is no separation. What did Bill say today? He's like the bad version of Devante Parker. There's no separation. He doesn't look down the letic.

It's just like he just makes an acrobatic catch, but he can't really keep his feet on. He can't jump that much anymore. I still think he's better than you. I think we're all jumping the gun on how much he's declined. He's going to come out of the vibe. He's had like five catches before this week. Yeah, but like both his touchdown today and his 20-yard catch were like extremely acrobatic.

amazing catches. Yeah, Jimmy Graham was good. Along the same. He's so old. He's not even old. Look, he's younger than Cooper Cup. I think here's the context. Like, we advocated selling high on CEH a couple, like three weeks ago or whatever.

And then he came back, the week after we said that, he came back and had two touchdowns. And everyone was like, you idiots, why did you do that? And then look at what he's done last two weeks, like four points, five points. Oh, we'll get to club. Whatever it is. I think I'm sticking to my guns with Robinson, at least for now. Like, I just don't see the consistency here. Like it's going to be,

you're going to have weeks where it's really frustrating. The Rams offense is horrible. Right. Like, it's disgusting. And they're losing offensive linemen left and right. Joe Nopin got hurt today, I think. I didn't see if he came back.

The Rams, before Joe, their left tackle got hurt. The Rams were tied with Washington for the most offensive linemen used. They haven't had the same align in any game this season. That will stay true next week if Joe Noobo doesn't play. And it's like, 10 offensive linemen in six fucking weeks is crazy.

He's worried it maybe in Achilles, so Joe Nobel might not come back. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Tight, tight, tight, tight. But like, and the other thing is, and I wanted to offer kind of like a Mia Coppel, because we talked about how Daryl Henderson was a drop, too. And then immediately, several hours later. Canemakers decides to quit. What is it, the SpongeBob?

Like, several hours later. Yeah. Two hours later. Apparently, Cammakers is out, and he's done with Rams for good. Like, this story is insane. I don't know what's going on here. Oh, I just, I can't, first of you just made a, SpongeBob reference. I've actually seen,

I've seen that just like on Twitter so I know what it is. I've actually never seen it in the show. That's even like, that's even like more millennial that like you saw the SpongeBob meme on Twitter and then you reference that. Like that's kind of like a layer deep.

Proud of you. But yeah, that's. So anyways, Camakers quit football. We recommended it, we ended up being, that was a bad recommendation, but we did not know that Camakers was going to just

decide not to play for the Rams anymore or whatever's going on there. I don't know what's going on. See the first player to demand a trade after averaging like 2.7. It might just be that. Honestly, their side is maybe the Rams are just done with him. I don't know exactly what's going on here.

We don't know. We don't have the details yet. But the reports out of every, like I saw today, are cammakers will not be playing for the Rams anymore, which is just like what? We need to do a special edition of who that is for Ronnie Rivers. Yeah. Sounds like a Madden name. Is apparently a running back for the Los Angeles Rams. It sounds like when you like create a player in Madden and auto fills a name.

It's like talking about like back from the dead Malcolm Brown who, everyone like the object permanence you know when babies like throw something over the edge of the tub look over and like oh my god it still exists it's like Malcolm Brown wow so that was just somehow 29 years old Fresno State Ronnie Rivers

goodness 57-195 in my head when I think of a Ronnie Rivers I just get the grayed out probably our profile and Yahoo went like they don't have a picture for the guy yeah just like in my mind there's like nothing this file is empty yeah also but I will say for the fantasy players that we were talking

cutting, I will say juju, we also wouldn't say just cut everyone blindly. We were saying, well, the show was deciding whether we're ready to cut down. Juju, I felt

was a buy low, and he had his best game of the season. He did. He scored for the first time. Are you selling high now? Oh, you're buying it still?

I don't think I'm selling high. I think he's a hold. He gets a ton of targets near the end zone. He had three today. MVS had zero catches. Yeah. Well, he had one touchdown

and got called back. But yeah. So did juju? Did he? Yeah. Also, Claypool, 96 yards touchdown today. Where did this come from? I don't know.

He looked pretty good. Mitchell Trubisky had 25 yards with Pickett there. Those were half of Pickett's yards. What's the 25 yards? No, he only had 67 on the day, and I think he had like 28 with Claypool. Regardless, Clayball looked good, made a lot of plays. I still think he's talented. I still kind of weirdly think he's a whole.

I don't know why. Yeah. Because it's Pickett, if he plays. his stop he just does the opposite of Trubisky the whole thing annoying thing was he's doing everything safe no risk Pickett only does risky throws I feel like Piscuit Piscuit Piscuit only just doing these toss-ups like hey guys just go and get it Yeah and he doesn't check down as much at Chubisky he's like I feel like

Pickett's whole route tree is just like throwing outs and That's why like Noggi's really suffering Noggi Harris had 467 receiving yards last year This year after six games he has 71 whoa in six games, Naji has 71 This is just the Ben thing, right? This is the Ben factor. Yeah, and so, I would feel better about Naji if Chubisky's starting next week.

That's pretty well. Well, speaking of, we got off this for a second, but we were talking about Jiu-J with the Chiefs. Bill's Chiefs in general. Yeah. Didn't live up to the expectations, right? Don't get your hopes up in life. It's a good game.

That's the lesson. Yeah. I thought it was good. I just think that we all got... I thought it was pretty bad for like three quarters, and then it got good. So, here's the thing. It's good.

So was the... So was the... cool game in January. That game wasn't like incredible. Yeah. I mean, it was real, to be clear, there were a lot of like highlights in the first. But it wasn't that Rams Chiefs 2018 game. No, but it was 31 points.

It was just back and forth the whole game. It was the 31 points after the two minute warning where it went from, oh, this is a good game to this is like the greatest football game I've ever seen. Yeah. 31 points to the two minute warning. And in this one, something about Mahomes getting the ball to respond. It felt. And it just ended so quickly.

I know. It really just flatlined. It did. It was kind of like a... It's late at night. Can we just be a little... I don't know. It's just...

Go ahead. Say it. What are you trying to say? Saying that the cheese finished a little too quickly. Oh, gee, that's it. I thought you were going to say something like, Marvin. I thought you were going to say something like... Yeah, exactly.

Just way too fast. I didn't know where you were going with that. Oh, boy. No, that's... I feel like that's like... That's like a 3 on the level, like on a 10 level. Like, inappropriate something or rather. Yeah.

Anyway, here. I somehow transition from that. We're gonna, today's episode as sponsored by Snickers, today's rookie mistake award. Love Snickers. It's presented by Snickers. And sometimes you're out of sorts. You make a mistake that could have been avoided

if you had just had a Snickers. Well, I have a personal story to tell. I screwed up in my fantasy league, perhaps. I can't even believe this is the best story. So for the sake of the ad, my advice, the rookie mistake was, make sure when you are making a trade or doing anything on your fantasy platform

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maybe just needed Snickers Snickers official chocolate bar sponsor of the NFL check out Snickers.com slash rookie mistake so sticking on this context We'll have to get into this for a minute here. I didn't want to make that snick because I'd go too long because it would probably be 10 minutes. So I guess we'll call this a fantasy court.

The People versus Craig. People versus Craig implies it's more like a mob. It was like an angry, like a Frankenstein style. All right. Craig was basically live texting us this too. I was like, I'm just deep water here. Help, he's like, help. Deep shit.

All right, so this is what happened. I basically was accused of committing the exact same transgression that hyphen. He's doing air quotes. I know, just for the record. Yeah, if you missed that episode. Yeah, Jackie is De Hive's his girlfriend, and they made a trade that then give that quick rundown,

then I'll go to me. Basically, my girlfriend, I made a trade that already looks like she won. It was Brian Robinson for Terry McLaurin. And she, like, while it was being processed, like we both accepted it on the app. And while it's being processed, she changed her mind. Yeah. And she just, as the commissioner of the league, she just undid it.

She's like, I have the power. Yeah, she literally was like, I just don't want to do this anymore. And I was like, you can't do that. That's bullshit. So I am the commissioner of my league. This is my high school league. I've been doing it for 10 years. Craig turns around and does the exact same thing.

I've been trying to sell Clyde for three weeks. Yeah. I finally get a nibble, and it's for Jerry Judy. Mm-hmm. I wasn't thrilled with it. I thought I could do better. I had another offer going from a Michael Pittman deal. I was trying to massage that.

Yeah. It was kind of going nowhere. While I'm recording an episode of the fantasy show, so basically here's what I did. I sent the trade offer to my friend Nick for Jerry Judy, Clyde, straight up. I sent the offer because in my mind, as the commissioner

if he were to hit accept I would still have to hit process to make an official official so I send out trade requests as the commissioner not realizing that if they hit accept it's done like me sending it is already me giving you're offering that trade

yes I'm like officially offering it in my head I'm just sending them the trade so they can look at it so Craig what were you thinking this is the most rookie ass shit I've ever heard You're also texting us Do you like this trade? Is this a good idea? When you said offered it, I think you texted the guy.

But it's stupid. You can't offer trades then on. You text. You offer a trade, and if they accept it, they accept it. Yeah, but how can you have a discussion through the platform? You can't. The chat. That no one uses. It's either zero or a hundred.

You either have to just send a trade offer and hope that, and then that's it. Or you have to text them. You be a normal person. You look at the proposed trade. trade screen without just like sending the trade. They're side by side. But I wanted him to see the proposal. You got to text it.

You got to text it. I know, but that's kind of stupid, don't you think? To be clear, the guy, you had offered him, what? Clyde for Jerry Judy? But you know what's funny? I was like, what about Clyde for Jerry Judy? And he goes, eh, I don't know. And I'm like, all right, well, I got another offer.

So think about it. I was like, you know, blah. And then he just texted me while I'm recording an episode with you guys. Fuck it. I'll do it. And then I was kind of just like, well, I don't know now if I want to do it. Which is so classic. And so Nick then goes to the group chat, he's like, we have a trade.

Jerry Judy for Clyde. And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Rushing to the podium. I was like, does anybody else like, want Clyde? Like, I'm not fully committed to this yet. And Nick's like, you accepted the trade. And I was like, I didn't accept the trade. You accepted the trade.

But you sent the trade. True. This is like so black and white. Like, there's no, there's no gray area here. My friends were literally like, dude Craig. The Corby didn't hear this. My friend Hunter literally quoted what I said to Jackie saying, Jackie, you hit accept or finalize offer, that's the last step.

Yeah. But here's my one thing. We created a rule in my league where the commissioner has to approve the trades. Who's you? Correct. Okay. Because I can't remember why, but a long time ago, a trade happened or like a trade was agreed upon where I just logged into Yahoo and you know how it says like trade pending.

And I just like accepted it. And then somebody texted me like, yo, yo, yo, yo, I actually didn't want to do that anymore. And I was like, oh, sorry. I saw that it said accepted. He goes, no, what I didn't want. So the new rule was like, the commissioner has to check. in with both sides first and be like, are you sure you wanted to go through with this? Right. Are you sure you want to go through this?

Yes and yes. So you had to check in with yourself. So you're like you're officiating. It's like, do you take so inside? My argument was like, I didn't want to. By the power vested in me, I send this trade through. Yes. Okay. No, it's like if he was officiating

his own wedding, that's what's, and then he's like, let me check in with Craig. Do you still want to marry this person? He's like, oh, I don't know. The whole point of the rule was that so if anybody no longer feels like they wanted to go through with the trade, they can back out. And I was like, that's just me in this scenario. And it's weird that I'm the commissioner. But if a different person was the commissioner, they would have gone to me and said, Craig,

do you want to do this? And I would have said, no. All you need to know about this case is that if you were a random listener emailing this court, there is zero percent chance we would read this on the show. This is so easy. Yeah, but wait, hold on. Why did it just not go back to you because you're the commissioner then? So it like never went back to you?

No, it did. I had to hit finalize, but I hadn't done that yet. So your friend just went ahead and told everybody. I offered the trade to Nick. Nick hit like accept trade. He was like, I won the election. I did it. But see, I guess in my mind because I was...

It's not how elections work. What is that? Because I'm so used to hitting finalized trade to actually make trades go through. I kind of thought that was still the last step. That like me hitting finalized trade was like my... I kind of am seeing Craig's side a little bit. You know what I mean? Yeah. No, this is a YP.

This is a you problem. But it's like because I've always been the commissioner. He's talking to me into it a little. It's like champagne problems. Like because I've been the commissioner, all I've ever known is that to accept a trade, you just have to hit finalized trade. I thought he had a parachute, but he didn't have a parachute. I thought I had one more step.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that me hitting finalized was like the final agreement on my part. I think at the end of the day, though, like if you send a trade offer, you have to be prepared for that. Yeah, that is the lesson here. It is the lesson. To Yahoo, if you're listening, make like a trade machine situation where you can, like, send trade offers to people that aren't official trade offers.

Like start the conversation. So people can look at what it looks like on their roster. They can look at like the stats and the comps and stuff because it's dumb that you can't do that. Email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. Anyway, I have Jerry Judy now and Clyde sucked this week, so I feel great about it. Anyway.

Oh, man. Incredible. All right. Call off the search, we found them a word. DK. Hold on. I got to find this. Oh, I found it.

Okay. Congrats. Call off the search. There we go. Meta in some way. Jamar Chase for the Bengals. He's back. alive. We knew this was going to happen

when you saw Joe Burrow coming into the stadium wearing an LSU jersey for Jamar Chase's LSU jersey. I was like, this is going to be good. I love a good public, like, best friendship. I like this. It's good fun. Also, like, if you look at Chase's route tree from

the next gen stats thing, how they track it, like it was all over the places. It was like over the middle of field. There were like a lot of crossing routes. You know, it felt like they were really using him less creatively this year. I don't know if that's actually true, but that's just how it felt. And this game felt like they were getting back to like just like get him the ball and let him like do his magic, you know. He had a really big touchdown play where he broke a couple tackles and just ran.

Like, you know, basically outplay the defense. 10, 10 target seven catches, 132 yards, two touchdowns, 32 points of PPR. Number one receiver in the week. Jamar Chase, he's back. Among all the, I mean, if you ranked every receiver in the NFL based on how much fantasy points and they're just cool catches they've had that were slightly out of bounds and catch, it's all three. It's Claypool and Jujit. Deontay and Piggins. Then Jamar Chase.

Like he's spiritually like a Steelers receiver with that. Because even in this game, he had a couple incredible things that didn't even count. He already was the number one receiver. Another one. George Kittle. I feel like he's finally back because he started the season injured, obviously. And then it felt like they were kind of working him back up to full health today. He had a 98% snap rate and a 24% target rate.

He was running around on 80% of the team's dropbacks. That's like what you want. from a fantasy tight end. One of the problems with Kittle over the years is he's just been blocking too much. But that didn't happen in this game. Well, is he back or did the Falcons take a 14-0 lead? That definitely helps, so that's a good point. They basically couldn't run this in this game.

Shanahan did the annoying freaking thing where Jeff Wilson fumbled. He benched up. And he was a fumble six. Like, he fumbled and they returned it for a touchdown. And he just didn't play again. But also, like, they didn't run very much in this game. Jeff Wilson. Yeah, Jeff Wilson led the team with seven rushes.

But still, Kittle is obviously. I think better with Garoppolo than with what we expected Lance to be. Yeah. And he's getting... Garapola passes all over the middle field. That's like all he does. Kittle started out banged up.

He's getting healthier and healthier. I think Kittal, I mean, he's not a bylaw anymore, but if you could trade for Kittal, I think we're all kind of forgetting how good he can be when he's right. Right. Right. They also haven't had like that. Well, I guess they did have that prime tongue game

and it was against Denver. And they looked horrible. Yeah. But, yeah, I'm hopefully, yeah, I'm a little nervous that this is just an aberration. I mean, it's definitely a good point that they basically didn't run in this game. So that's something to monitor.

Another person who, he had a good week last week, but the people who have, this person have been devastated, which is Alvin Camara, who is terrible for the first month of the season. Really bad. Kind of think he might be back.

I don't know. It's the Saints' offense is bizarre. It's like, I mean, they were pretty bad. In London, they'd be, Saints have just looked poor, but like, no Michael Thomas, no Alave, no Jarvis. and then still put up 30 points.

Also, the way they're using Camara now that all the receivers are hurt, they're treating him like a traditional running back. Now he gets like 20 carries and three catches, which looks very unnatural. I don't like seeing Camara with 20 catches. Rushes? Sorry, 20 rushes, which he's kind of just like plotting, like a plotting running back.

Well, yeah, they're like, well, they're giving him, like he's basically having to take a ton of hits. Yeah, he's just like 20, carries 97 yards in that's his game. It's just like a grinded out back. That's not really who he is. Well, JJ Zachary's and tweeted this out. I thought this was really good.

All the players who are getting 70% of their team's carries and 20% of the team's targets, the only two players with that are Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Camara. Oh, really? Not Sequin? No. How is that possible?

I guess he's not catching that many passes, maybe? You know, there's just so many receiving options on the Giants. How does Sequin not have like seven catches a game? Who's catching passes for the Giants? Daniel Bellinger, which I'm going to get to. He's their new number one. Also, one other guy, the call off the search, we found him.

Michael Pittman had like a big week one. I was so on him this year. And then he hurt his quad. And then the next three games, he didn't do anything and was, you know, borderline not startable. And then this week, Matt Ryan and the Colts just went nuts. Matt Ryan 35 times. Where did this come from? Michael Pittman had 16 targets, 13 catches, 130 yards.

This is obviously better than I expected for Michael, for Michael Pittman, but like this type of like, you know, uh, oh God, I can't. It's so late at night. This level of workload for,

for Michael Thomas is like what I expected on the Colts. Dude, can we please? It's tough too. I know. For the love of God, can we get Matt Ryan to pass 58 times in every game? Well, can I get you?

So we, if you haven't been listening since last year, we have a joke, Memento tattoos. Like in the movie Memento guy gets everything wants to remember and extra tattooed in a movie, body. I want a memento tattoo I can't speak either. Oh my God.

But a memento tattoo I want next year is literally don't try to predict AFC South games. Every division's tough, but it never makes sense what happens in these divisions. Yeah, weren't you all like angry because the the Colts were favored in this game, right? After being shut out.

My mansplained of the week, honestly, I think I just keep mansplaining the Colts that I don't understand them. I was like, the Jaguars beat the Colts 24-0 like a month ago and the cults were more injured now than then, and they're like, why are they... It's like, you're trying to tell Jackie why Citizen Kane is a great movie. And she's like, you don't actually know what you're talking about, do you?

And you're like, nah. I'm like, I whispering in the ear, the girl, the meme at the festival. It's good for some reason. And then they scored, they dropped 34 points on the Jags and just like... Yeah, so it's like a fungible token. So like, it could... Right. Like, so when man invented fire...

It's the blockchain. Yeah. So the clap. Fiat money. Fiat. Speaking of someone who was supposed to be super valuable and is actually potentially worth the scalps, scored a touchdown today. And I put him in this dock for a call off the search, we found him.

And then he, like, didn't do anything else for the rest of the game. He disappeared once again. He didn't, we lost him again after we had found him. He had four catches. No, sorry, he had three catches for 19 yards. Yikes. And one of those was a touchdown. Thank God.

So, but here's a thing, that's just a streamer item. That's what you hope you get from, like, Aiden Hurst. Well, here's, yeah, and this is the problem. This has been the problem, is the Falcons don't pass the ball. They had 28 points. Did we already say this? I feel like I'm taking crazy bills. Marriota had 14 attempts in this game.

Yeah, like, 13 out of 14. Kyle Pitts had four of the 14 targets. That's like fantastic. That's like 25% like target, right? So you're saying. Also, he was, his three catches is tied for second on the team. Yeah.

Like, they just don't pass them. Did I tell you guys something? Yeah, the said truth, though, is like this is the Falcons. Can I tell you guys something? We were talking on a Wednesday show about, yes, so I was a stupid question. I don't know why. It's like when we do trivia, and Hyvitz makes us say, like, what is the answer?

Sorry. You guys know how much a cloud weighs, and we're, like, pausing for the answer? He's like, go, dude. We're like, no, Hyvin's how much a cloud weighs. Christ. You would never believe how much of cloud weighs, by the way. It's literally like a billion pounds. That's the best question anyone is ever you build us is how much of the cloud.

I've never thought about that. I still don't fucking buy it. How is it floating? I don't believe that I know. It's easy. It's, oh, anyway. How is it floating? It makes no sense

Plains don't make sense Yeah, but they have engines Oh, we're all just made of molecules Okay Yeah Sure Sure, okay Got it

Not gonna think about that again But if there's wet pin on the wall I don't know I gotta check that Anyway, I gotta tell you guys a story About rigor fantasy league I have Kyle Piss It sucks

And he was healthy So I cut my back up tight end Robert Tanya Robert Tonin had fucking 10 catches for 90 yards today He had the game of his life Yeah And all I can think about is

Also didn't he have like 52 catches Like all of like his breakout season Two years ago 10 catches today Yeah because his breakout was like You know a quarter of his catches were touchdowns So yeah As much as even like five days ago

We were like you can't cut Kyle Pitts Part because he's really talented And probably do for more touchdowns which happened and part because you'll feel so dumb if he's good later. The only thing worse than holding on to him would be holding out of him cutting him and then be good. Having said that, he scored today,

but we're consistently talking about the Falcons throwing teens passes. Like for all this shit we give about the bears, about the bears being like Navy, and we keep comparing the bears to the Navy quarterback every year because they don't throw. The Falcons are like right there with them. And honestly,

I actually think by the end of the season, the Falcons, not the Bears, will probably have the fewest past them to the NFL this season. At what point, is it borderline, like, impossible for Kyle Pitts to be more than, like,

just the most athletic and fastest and talented streaming tight end that you can pick up when, like, Darren Waller is just on by. Like, how is it even possible for him to be good at this point? Mario is having 14 completions.

I mean, it's tough. So right now, after six weeks, Falcons are averaging 22 8. The bears are 19. But like think about that, 22. So if Kyle Pitts commands 20% of the targets,

which is like pretty good. Right. Give him 25. Four or five targets a game. Yeah. That's nothing. Compare that to the Cardinals who are averaging 42 attempts per game.

Matt Ryan just hawking the ball. 58 times today. Also, if you wanted to trade Kyle Pitts and you're in a 10-team league, how many people would even listen? Two? Yeah, like literally if you want to think about it another way, it's like you have to depend on other teams. Other teams are playing like two games.

Like these other players from like the Cardinals, the Bills, the Bucks, Chargers, they're playing, they have the opportunity to play two games, whereas Kyle Pitts is playing one game. Like, think of it that way. Like, these guys are going to get two games to outscore you. Yes. Like, that sucks. I kind of can't believe we've never played that way before. And I think we should do that for the rest of our careers. I mean, Robert Tonion got 12 targets.

That's better. How many games does cowl pits have to play to get 12 targets? Three games, probably. Three sometimes. Oh, God. Yeah. So, well, that was depressing. Okay.

So, but, no, no, can you cut Kyle Pitts? No. Why? Why not? I'm out of reasons. We're halfway through the fucking season. It's week seven. Because we're stubborn.

That's why. No, no. I'm getting there. It's not even stubborn. It's still smart to keep cowpits. It's, who are you replacing them with? Right. That's a problem.

Literally. The guy made the website for us. Literally anyone. Jelani Woods? I'm feeling like... Don't do that. Jalani Woods. That's the problem.

The biggest human being in the world. The Jalani Woods is that. Anyway, okay, we can move on. Jolani Woods had more yards in pits today. Jesus. Oh my God. I don't really want to acknowledge Kenya Drake. Yeah.

He looked pretty good. He actually looked very spry. I think we said several times during the game. Damn, Kenya Drake looks awesome. We went to 10 men on the field for his run. We, like, said that, and then, like, Mina and Bill didn't say anything. And then, like, five minutes later, Kenny Drake had, like, another run. And Nina was like, he does kind of look spry.

Like, damn. It's Kenny Drake that. RV6 on the week? 119 yards on a touchdown? A team should... There should be a team who experiments with... They don't have any running backs. They just sign a new one every week.

Oh, my God. They could do that. One fresh game, and you just say, hey, we'll pay you $100,000. Just go nuts this week. Send it. And then we'll let you go. You all would be kind of crazy. I mean, the Ravens are kind of doing that.

You know what we're kind of nuts? Justice Hill. Mike Davis. How many other freaking guys have they played this week this year? They have Latavius Murray at one point? Sounds right. I don't know.

You know in the normal world you can like hire anyone? Wait, did they? I know he's on Denver now. He was on the Saints. Do you remember last year they had like all the old washed up guys ever? Yeah.

Sorry. D.K., I'm just teaching D.K., how to put the mic in front of my mouth. Craig just reached over and put the mic in from my mouth. But in like, you said sorry. So I'm like, in my head, I'm like, what are the people going to think? I have to now explain what I'm doing.

Otherwise, just like a random sorry will have popped up in the middle of the pun. The irony is you said something away from the mic and it didn't sound like great. All right. You didn't help yourself. What was your thing about the normal world? Wouldn't it be funny if you could just, you know, a team those out of running backs? Could you know, just like hire one of the college running backs to like play for them and go back to school?

Why can't they do that? I'm sure there's some rules. I know the rule, but the rules are dumb. I'm saying it would be kind of cool if you could just be like, hey, college student, we need work. Like, if you ignore that there's a draft and there's rules, it's just like, hey, college student. Like, think about... What is this thought experiment? What are we doing here?

Because I'm saying, like, a team should just experiment with, like, signing a different running back off the street every day. And Hyphitz is like, what if he just signed college running backs for a game? Sure. They just skip their game on Saturday? What are you talking about? I like it. No bad questions. No bad ideas.

I'm a stupid question. I don't know. Seems dumb, but okay. All right. Are there any of your stat lines? We don't know why I don't want to acknowledge. Maybe Malcolm Brown's existence once again. I just not really into that.

Can we talk about all the receivers? Like the first like six receivers scored touchdown today were like Paris Campbell. And then it was Paris Campbell, Alec Pierce, Dante Pettis, and who is the other one? I don't remember Tycoisthorn and a two You know what's one other one We're just not acknowledging

That Corey Davis is the best receiver on the Jets I think Elijah Moore can be dropped Oh my God he had zero targets today He can be dropped Cory Davis every week is like the top performer And we're just like no Garrett Wilson and Elijah Moore so good It's Corey Davis

He plays the most snaps He runs the most routes It's Corey Davis So. All right. This is a very important moment. Burn book. Man.

I mean, is it Elijah Moore at this point? Oh, that's good. I feel like it kind of has to be. He is, I mean, literally. You know what? That's true. But in terms of like, you know, like value, how much value you're losing. Have we burned this person yet?

Let me check. It's Najee Harris. What the fuck are we doing? He was a first round pick. what did he do today? I also can't believe we were cowers and burned Baker Mayfield instead of DJ Moore. Oh God.

I know. We did kind of cop out of that. Noggy Harris had 11 points today. But he's never had more than 11 points this year. So, no one's happened. So what does this mean, though? Are you going to bench him forever?

Dude, he's like a flex. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like that's a little bit much. I kind of can't believe we didn't bench. Like, it's almost like we need to issue. It's got to be either. DJ Moore had three catches for

seven yards today. God, dude. And that wasn't his worst game of this season. I think it's got to be either DJ Moore. It's got to be the Moore, both Moors.

DJ Moore, can I just read you? All right. The Moore brothers. DJ Moore. I know they're not brothers, but that's kind of funny. DJ Moore had

seven yards this week and then three weeks ago he had two yards in a game. The Super Morio brothers. Sorry. No. Just popped in the head. It's really late.

Who's the other Moore? We're saying Elijah Moore and DJ Moore. They're not brothers. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, the Moors. The Moore brothers. And then we'll wait till Nage Naji later?

Yeah. I don't think we can burn Naji. If he averages 10 points a game for the entire season, that is a colossal disappointment. Yeah, but you're still able to start him and get points. Yeah. All right. I mean burning Rogers. I've never seen Craig so disappointed with me.

All right. All right, what are we doing? The Super Moryo brothers? No, that's not what we're doing. We didn't agree on that. The Moors. DJ Moore and Elijah. They're really the lesses.

That's what we should be calling them. Right. Okay. Is that a worst joke? I mean, no. It was a little bit better. I'm not saying it was great. I'm just saying it was not as bad.

All right. Is that what we got? So we're doing both, DJ and Elijah? I think DJ and Elijah more, yeah. I just like how we're just... Should we burn Rondell? He was fine. No, he's fine.

Rondel, okay. I thought the less thing was funny. I mean, it was fine. It was kind of like low-hanging fruit right there. Mine had to take a little bit of thought to get to mine. A little too much. All right. Let's get out of here.

All right. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you. Oh, no. I was thinking of what we're all short-circuiting. Thank you, Lauren. Lauren. But we want to mention, we have a special surprise. Yeah, let's go do Lauren first. We're a fantasy show. Speaking of Lauren. Am I supposed to say a ban right now?

Yeah, sure. Thank you, Death Cab for Cutie. Oh, nice. Oh, yeah. They did a ringer room. Oh, do they? They came out of performed. All right. If you have made it this far, I assume you like our podcast.

Congrats. Yeah. We will be doing a rewatchables. Tomorrow. Hmm. Do we, we're not allowed to say what movie? It's Pineapple Express. Okay.

Craig's like, I'm finally in charge. I mean, it's like, people are going to be listening to this tomorrow. That's true. Yeah, the rewatchables feed. Check it out. Craig produces. And is this 250 what episode of the rewatchables? 250.

Oh, I don't know. The exact number. Yeah, around 250, 260-ish. Yeah, Pineapple Express. Oh, man. It'll come out tomorrow night. It would be just the three of us. We're very excited.

We're very grateful to Bill for allowing us to do this. Awesome. So yeah. Also, I got to watch that movie like three times this week. It was amazing. Thug live. So good. Oh, my God. Yeah, I can't remember that. Okay. Yeah, so that'll be fun. Check that out. And yeah, goodbye, everyone.