The Ringer NFL Show - Week 6 Winners, Waivers, and Burns
Episode Date: October 19, 2020Is the Bucs defense one to avoid in fantasy? Plus, is Ryan Tannehill actually elite? We also offer up our winners of the week, add to our fantasy burn book, and recommend our top waiver adds after Wee...k 6. Headlines: Bucs D (3:36) Ryan Tannehill (8:45) Winners: Kirk Cousins (18:32) D'Andre Swift (21:31) Julio Jones (24:43) Fantasy Burn Book (27:08) Waiver Adds (32:51) Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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On today's episode, we talk about the guys you want to stash for the rest of the season.
My trust issues with the Indianapolis cults and how the Vikings are the kings of garbage time.
Not to mention, should we stop ignoring Ryan Tannahill?
No, we're going to keep ignoring Ryan Tanna Hill.
Stick around.
Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show.
I am Danny Heifitz, and I'm here with Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck.
Dika, how are you doing, man?
I'm doing excellent.
How are you doing, Danny?
I'm doing good.
I was just wondering if you were pumped that Russell Wilson is now definitively the best quarterback in the NFL.
FL since the Dama King Sue bought a bunch of real estate and Aaron Rogers' head.
It does actually make the MVP race a little bit more interesting.
I also think the MVP race is totally overrated and we probably don't need to spend as much time on it as we do.
Well, we need something to distract us.
Craig, how are you doing?
I'm good.
I have a distraction for you guys.
So our headline for today's spoiler alert, our headline is about the Bucks Packers game and everything, all the fallout from that.
So I have a fun fact about Aaron Rogers.
This is a statistical comparison between Aaron Rogers and the great Nathan Peterman.
So I saw this.
I don't know if this is true.
I'm just going to assume it is.
I saw it on TikTok.
If somebody made a video about this, I'm just going to assume it's right.
This guy's basically like, I can't stop thinking about this fact.
So this was before the Packers game.
So whatever.
So before the Packers game, Aaron Rogers could have thrown 1,240 consecutive interceptions
on 1,240 straight pass attempts and still have a,
a better career touchdown to interception ratio than Nathan Peterman.
Holy shit.
And there's a couple more Nathan Peterman's.
Nathan Peterman won through three interceptions and zero touchdowns in a game and his
passer rating went up.
And the last one is is Nathan Peterman finishes his tenure with the bills, having a lower
quarterback rating than if he simply spiked the ball straight into the ground on every single
play of his career.
So my only issue with this is you started it with, I don't know if this is true.
I found it on TikTok.
But others than that, that's astonishing.
Wait, you said, so he could throw,
Rogers could have thrown 1240 picks in a row
and he had a better touchdown interception ratio than anything.
So this came from the Instagram account at NFL memes, so I don't know.
Peter, Peterman, so for reference,
Peterman has three touchdowns and 12 picks in his career.
Meanwhile, Rogers, 377 touchdowns and 86 picks.
So I think he's probably, I mean, it sounds right.
I think it is, right?
Because that means if he has 300,
70 touchdowns, he would need to have four times more
interceptions. Exactly. Yeah.
So, well, that was the crazy thing about
the Rogers game yesterday was that, I mean, we're recording this on Monday
afternoon, and Roger's throwing a pick six. That was only the
third pick six of his life, which is wild because Tom Brady's
thrown four pick sixes in like his last six games.
And he almost threw a second. He like threw his body in the way of
that second. Well, it was like a pick five point. It was like a pick five
and a half because he got to the two yard line, which should
count. There's a certain point where it's out of your control.
I think the defense should get
two extra points on that. Then Ronald Jones is getting a free touchdown. He didn't do anything. Come on.
I have a lot of thoughts on defenses and fantasy and scoring, which we will do another day.
But for this specific game... It's definitely all done wrong. You're right. There needs to be a whole
reconstruction of how defenses are scored. I have many thoughts. But what did you see in this game?
Because there were so many things here. One, the Packers were, I mean, kind of destroyed. Mike Evans had
one catch for two yards. There was a lot going on here. What caught your eye?
Yeah, the early returns on my trade, Mike Evans, uh, take.
are looking pretty strong after that game.
Two points, I think he had in fantasy.
He's a fullback.
Is he now a buy low?
I mean,
every week you're just trading him
and then trading for him.
It's like stocks.
It's like you just waiting for the number.
It's like the stock market, man.
Buy the dip.
Yeah.
So, I don't know.
I feel like the biggest thing that came out of this game
is that if you didn't already know it,
like the Buccaneers defense is legit.
And it's borderline avoid and avoid defense now.
Even in this season where like, I mean, honestly, before coming into this week, I was like, I don't even care who the defense is because everybody sucks at defense.
And there's just so much offense. You're not going to sit some of your best players against any defense.
But the Buccaneers are starting to feel like a team that that could potentially be a thing.
Right now, they are, or sorry, coming into the week, they are giving up the 10th fewest fantasy points to opposing receivers.
Jamel Dean is like one of the best up and coming cornerbacks in the NFL.
like he's going to be a household name pretty soon here.
He reminds me a little bit of like a Marcus Peters type of guy
because he camps out on routes.
That pick six that he had was just like him
watching the quarterback and camping out on it.
And Devante Adams, I mean, he got six,
I think it was six catches.
And, you know, so he wasn't like a total dud or anything like that,
but I was expecting huge numbers for him.
But it's a dud in terms of like where you drafted him.
Like that should be his worst game of the season.
In addition to, you know, like they've done a really good job
on opposing teams wide receiver ones.
Like in addition to that,
They've given up the fifth fewest points.
This is coming into this week.
So after this, it's going to be even better.
Fifth fewest to opposing quarterbacks.
12th fewest to opposing tight ends.
Eight fewest to opposing running backs.
So really, this is a defense that, to me, is just like, man,
and they're going in the right direction, too.
They just seem like they're playing so, so well right now.
Would you rather have the buck's defense or Aaron Rogers?
Would I rather have what?
The Bush's defense or Aaron Rogers.
Oh, I don't know.
This is like my who would you save it a,
fire question.
Wait, so, you know, we're six weeks in, and I feel like we're getting to the point now,
you know, for the first three weeks of the season, unless there's like a truly transcendent,
like, Legion of Boom defense, you're pretty much starting everybody against everybody that
you like.
But now we're starting to see that, you know, the cream is rising to the top, and are the
bucks, I'll ask you, Hyphitz, because you've been quiet for a while. I don't know what you're
thinking over there. Do you think if you got a guy like, let's say, a Jerry Judy, or
one of those guys who's right on the line
of Brandon Cooks. Are you considering
sitting these guys now if they play the bucks?
I think yes for the
fringe guys. I think that
the defenses this year are not good enough
that you're benching your best guys and
that's been few and far between the last few
years. It's rare where there's a Stefan Gilmore
last year or
Tradavius White where there's someone where you're, oh yeah,
like I'm not going to play Julio Jones
against that person, especially
now where a lot of the best guys are injured.
But yeah, it certainly is going to
sway you one way or the other against Judy, because obviously the best defense is in the league,
which I would say it's the bucks, it's the Ravens and the Steelers are the guys where I'm really
shifting away from the fringe guys. But the clear top option, if it's on your team that otherwise
you wouldn't think about benching the person, I wouldn't bench anyone regardless of the matchup.
But once you get to the second, third, fourth options, that's really tough.
What about with quarterbacks? Like, if you have a Deshawn Watson, a Ryan Tannehill,
Are those people that you would consider sitting against the box
and trying to stream somebody like a Ryan Fitzpatrick
or an Andy Dalton that gets a good matchup?
The next three games, they've got Derek Carr and the Raiders
this next week coming out.
Well, I don't think the Raiders have any.
Well, that's a perfect example, actually,
because you play Darren Waller if you have Darren Waller.
But Ruggs is the perfect guy.
But yeah, I probably wouldn't play Henry Ruggs.
And I mean, probably not playing Derek Carr.
You'd play Jacobs and Waller and I wouldn't play the other Raiders.
But it's hard because the quarterback thing is interesting, D.K.,
because there's so many quarterbacks to stream this year.
But at the same time,
time you're all, it's also so random. You know, you kind of can very easily feel like an idiot where
you bench, you know, this week. It's like Aaron Rogers. What are you going to do? Bench Aaron Rogers.
Well, maybe you should have benched Aaron Rogers. Five points or something. Yeah. So it's always
tough to try to hone in a specific game, but I think that at the same time, we, as you just said, Craig,
we do have enough evidence now to point to a few teams as these are overwhelmingly going to tilt
against you. Or just make you tilt either way. I don't know. Yeah. So, I mean,
they're next three games, right? So we got Vegas and you're probably only starting Jacobs and
and Waller.
Then they play the Giants.
I think you could make the argument.
You start nobody.
Would you want any player on the Giants that game?
Slayton.
Slayton would be the guy I was thinking about.
Yeah,
I might go in a different direction
just because it seems like
there's high variance with him anyway.
And in that matchup,
yeah, I would probably avoid it.
So are the Bucks number one for you guys
on the defense you would most avoid
starting fringe players against?
I think they are for me, yeah.
For me, it's the Ravens.
Still.
I mean, it depends.
Yesterday, it was a perfect storm
with the Ravens and that banged up Eagles.
line. But still, what the Ravens do at the defensive backs is pretty wild, especially when they
can stick Marlon Humphrey or whoever on their best player, the Ravens are really tough.
So that was the headline for all three of us, but we have a personal headline, courtesy
of Daniel Kelly. Go ahead. I basically asked this to you guys right before we started recording,
and I wanted to kind of bring it up on the show, because it is an interesting thing is, has Ryan
Tannahill, like, turned into, officially turned into one of the league's elite quarterbacks?
Because his numbers so far this year,
everything that we've seen since he took over for Marcus Marriota last year
as a team starter.
Basically everything says he's an elite quarterback now.
This is the King Stephen Glansberg.
Yeah, I guess he is.
Ryan Tannaill is like third in MVP voting if there was an MVP today.
Again, not that that matters.
But he's only like 55% of fantasy football leagues on ESPN.
Like barely half.
People still don't believe it, I think.
Do we believe it?
I'm in that camp.
I do.
I do.
I think I...
Yeah, it's...
You know why it's the gase thing
was so long with Tannahill
that it's actually...
No, we don't like to change our minds.
Like, who likes to change their minds?
Like, we're human.
That's dumb.
It's like, I'm smart and I know everything.
What are going to do?
Change your mind.
You wait for the world to change around your opinion.
And the Tannahill thing,
because here's the thing.
It's exactly a year.
It started week six last season.
Now it's growing into week seven.
It's been a full year of Tannahill.
And it's basically the best three quarterbacks
in the last year are Mahomes,
Lamar, and Tanahill
by almost any number you want to look at.
as a whole, if you will.
Speaking of that,
I'm going to throw some numbers at you.
I've collated this from the internet,
from Twitter.
Some really good stats on it.
Coated?
Coated?
How do you say that?
Collected? Gathered?
Hunter and gather.
It's collated.
Collected also works, but yes.
Anyways, so through,
so he's been the starter now for 15 games, I believe.
He has thrown for 3,900 yards, 40 touchdown, 7 picks.
His 16 game pace this season is 4,300 yards,
42 touchdown six picks.
Since he became the starter last year for the Titans,
this is per Ben Baldwin of the athletic.
Tana Hill is number two in completion percentage over expectation,
number two in EPA per play,
and number one in EPA plus completion percentage over expected composite.
That's Baldwin's stat.
So the advanced stats point to he's like elite.
I saw this for Ian Hartett's at PFF.
His PFF passing grades since last year,
since he started last year.
Number two, among 48 qualifying quarterbacks,
8.9 yards per attempt average, which is first.
Adjusted completion rate, 77%, which is 9th.
QB rating 116 first.
Average depth of target, 9.4 yards, tied for 6th.
He's also been basically perfect in the red zone
since taking over for them,
and he's also incredibly poised and clutch in late games.
So, I mean, literally,
anyway.
Did he relate to Ryan Tannenhill?
See your brother or something?
And I'm, dude, I didn't even come into like
this season being that high on him.
I was like, oh, he'll, you know,
he'll regress.
Like, he'll be good, but not nearly as good as last year.
He has regressed in terms of, like,
his yards of pretend and stuff, but I don't,
I don't think that's, like, the biggest deal.
Like, he still looks incredibly good.
He's eighth right now in fantasy points per game
amongst QBs.
Granted, two of the games with AJ Brown,
he went crazy, but it's not like he's going insane.
Also, the Titans almost made the suit.
Super Bowl last year, which, you know, the Titans, again, I will say media bias, not as big
of a thing as people think.
However, there has never been more media bias in a football game than Titans chiefs when
the Titans took a lead and everyone's like, holy crap, are we going to have to do two weeks
of content around Patrick Mahomes or Ryan Tan Hill?
So let me tell you, we were all rooting for Mahomes in that game.
But the Titans had a lead in the AFC championship game, went into the offseason and everyone's
like, no, they're not going to do it again. And then they started undefeated and was like,
nah. And now we're sitting around. We're like, oh, do we really, it's been a full year of this.
Do we really have to do this? I kind of see him as like the Schitt's Creek of quarterbacks,
Ryan Daniel. Everyone's like, watch it. And you're like, no. Yeah, it's like, it started as like this
random show on some like random channel called pop. No one believed in it. Like, obviously, because it was
on pop. It was incredibly low budget. And then like five years later, it swept the Emmys and like
set every record. And I'm like, Schitt's Creek is really like this.
transcendent comedy. All right, I guess I got to watch it. And then I'm on season one and I'm
going to tell you, it's all right. I guess I'll have to wait and see it's all right. Bottom line,
though, I think, you know, this is a fantasy football pod. I think Ryan Tannahill being a real thing
is good, number one, for people who took him late in drafts. I think he's going to be a big
benefit for them. He's continuing to be, you know, a top tier fantasy quarterback. And then number
two, like, it's awesome that the guys in this offense, A.J. Brown has gone off three touchdowns
in last two games. You know, Jono Smith is like potentially a savior for the tight-end
position, although he did get hurt in this last game and leave early. Derek Henry.
Someone named Anthony Furkser caught like over 100 yards in a touchdown. And Derek Henry so
disrespected. We just talked about Anthony Ferkser before Derek Henry.
Derek Henry had 21012 yards.
I believe he has as many 200-yard games over the last three years as every one else in the NFL combined.
Wow.
The Titans had 601 yards, you guys.
This is fantasy gold.
So the Titans are real.
They're real and they're spectacular, is the tennis team.
Yeah, and I'm banking on Titans guy.
Like, I think this makes AJ Brown like a top six or seven, like in redraft alone, like, receiver potentially.
And the rest of the year.
And obviously, it's huge for Derek Henry that they got like the inner.
play between their passing game and their ground game.
I don't know.
Bottom line is, like, Tannihil's for real is basically what I want to say.
So it's huge for fantasy.
Real and spectacular.
Yeah, D.K., I thought you would like the Seinfeld bit there.
He is real and he is spectacular.
And by the way, they're real and they're spectacular.
You'd that also like the closing bit of the show?
Like Seinfeld ends with the lawyer.
Oh, oh, like you're talking about the season finale before they cut to the prison?
Yeah.
It's like the last bit in the entire show that they make.
And then they go back to the button joke, which was the first one of the show.
Right.
Yeah.
Okay.
Anyway, let's get to the top scorers of the week, which are also real and spectacular.
This is before Monday Night Football.
This is wild.
So Deshawn Watson was the number one quarterback of the week, basically tied with Matt Ryan.
And then Ryan Tannahill was three, real and spectacular.
Terrick Henry was number one, like by a lot, by real lot.
He had 40 points.
DeAndre Swift was number two.
Wow.
And Ronald Jones was number three.
At receiver.
God, what a list for D-K
right here.
Justin Jefferson,
Julio Jones and Will Fulner.
My heart is Fulner.
I know.
It's so great.
That's how I feel.
God damn,
finally.
Tight end.
I can't believe.
Anthony Ferckser.
The Titans,
I'm thinking of remember the Titans
when they're like,
the Titans are greater than the gods.
Like,
that's how I feel reading this list.
Anthony Furkser's number one.
George Kittles,
number two.
Trey Burton for the Colts is number three.
Okay.
And Darren Fells was four,
just because I want to be.
I'm telling you, preseason hype on
Trey Burton was legit, you guys.
It's all right.
It's only the third Coltside in a year.
We did talk about him.
We said he was a streamer.
Yep.
And then defense.
Bucks was number one,
Steelers number two,
and then Dolphins number three,
which checks out because the three best
defenses are the Bucks,
and whoever plays the Jets.
And then I just wanted to shout,
I just wanted to shout up Brandon McManus,
who was a kicker at 24 points
because they won 18 to 12 or whatever in Denver.
Yeah.
The Broncos won with Drew Locke had like
189 yards passing and two interceptions.
borderline one of Belichick's worst losses this week.
Well, they barely practiced last last.
We were all thrown off the scent because we were like,
how are the Titans going to do this game against Buffalo last week
when they haven't played football and God knows how long?
They look great.
And we're like, oh, whatever is practice doesn't matter.
And then we just kind of expected the Patriots to be fine.
We're like, oh, yeah, they haven't practiced.
They practiced twice in 16 days.
Right.
How on earth were they going to be good?
So we do this top scores thing every week.
And so since week one, I went back and compile.
basically what defenses are allowing top three performances at each position, quarterback through
tight end. And so after six weeks, Atlanta is the number one defense. Atlanta has led up seven top
three performances in six weeks, which is pretty crazy. I mean, it's like 1.3 players a week
are a top three at their position when they play Atlanta, which is kind of wild. And then after
that, the tie, there's a four-way tie for second. And it's Houston, Vegas, Tennessee, and Dallas.
Vegas is the one that kind of stands out to me the most, and they are by far.
They've led up three top three performances to running backs in five weeks.
So Vegas is who you want to send your running backs up against.
More than every other week, a running back finish is as a top three against the Raiders,
which is pretty wild.
So I'm going to keep this list going as we move on.
But are you counting that they're on their by week, and John Gruden was telling them about
fundamentals all week?
Yeah, knock if you're with me.
You're here to take someone else's dream.
I don't want your dreams.
I want your nightmares.
I'll tell you who's got Vegas this week.
Tampa Bay and Ronald Jones, baby.
Who is third in the league in rushing yards, Ronald Jones?
Three straight 100-yard gains.
So if you want to stream, it might be Ronald Jones.
If you want a DFS play.
I also got the vibe that Ronald Jones was keeping his stats during that game.
Did you guys get that vibe during the end of the game?
It seemed like he was very happy across 100 and then it came out.
I got the vibe.
He was extremely aware of his number.
The Russell Westbrook of NFL best.
I did get that like taking rebounds with Stephen Adams.
He's like, get off the field to Sean McCoy.
Not yet.
Okay.
I was keeping some track of some numbers of my own.
But specifically for this week because my winner of the week is the Minnesota Vikings
and garbage time.
Kirk Cousins garbage time.
He is the trash lord.
He's the vassal of the vacant.
This guy is, I mean, he just is really good when the Vikings are out of the game.
That's what I'm trying to say.
But that's been like a.
apparent if you've seen any of the Vikings games this year because in week one,
they basically get crushed three times this year.
The Vikings got crushed and then just come back, come back,
not enough to win the game, but to fill all the stats.
So when I saw that Justin Jefferson and Adam Thiel and are top five in fantasy points this year at wide receiver,
that kind of blew my mind because we were talking all offseason of like,
who's going to be like Chris Godwin, Mike Evans combo this year?
Who are the two teammates that can be both top five at the position?
we thought the best chance was
Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley
We were right
We didn't realize
Ridley would actually be a lot better
than Julio this year
Did not see Justin Jefferson
and Thielen being top five
We love Thielen
I did not realize Justin Jefferson
would be this good
But
There are some astonishing numbers
On what they've done in garbage time
There are only
So first I'm defining garbage time
right now
As you're down 17 points
In the second half or more
Does that work for you guys?
Yeah
I mean that yeah
That's like even a little bit generous
Like it could just be like
two scores, but regardless...
I'm just going down 17 in the second half.
The number one fantasy receiver in garbage time
is Justin Jefferson.
And the number two receiver in fantasy garbage time
is Adam Thielen.
Yes.
There are only three players with multiple touchdowns
in garbage time. And two of those three
are Adam Thielen and Justin Jefferson.
You know what's kind of weird is that
just as you said, Jefferson and Thielen
are top five, might even be top four players.
Cousins is.
the quarterback's 17.
So, like, he's literally only throwing to them to, and then no one else so that he doesn't
actually score that many points.
It's just all of it is to Thielen and Jefferson.
I also look to stuff for Kirk Cousins.
In the first three quarters of the game, his passer rating is 36th among quarterbacks,
and that includes all the backups 36th.
And then the fourth quarter, he's the second best passer rating.
Well, if somebody told you, hey, after six weeks, Kirk, or Thielen and Jefferson are going
to be top five receivers, where would people have drafted Kirk Cousins?
Like, top eight?
He drafted him like top six, top five.
And then you're just like absolutely duped.
You're like, what the hell is this?
That doesn't even make any sense.
He was good this week.
He's good in like two quarterback leagues, I guess.
But yeah, so anyway, I just can't believe how good and bad this team is at the same time.
Yeah, it's a certain niche to capture in fantasy drafting is that it's like you want to draft players on good teams normally with running backs.
And then with receivers, you can almost kind of go the other way.
And it's like if you have a competent-ish quarterback who plays on a team that's going to get blown out a lot,
it kind of works.
All right.
So my winner of the week,
garbage time,
Minnesota Vikings.
Really,
I guess they're just
the winners of my
almost half season so far.
DK,
who's your winner of the week?
Jefferson has been awesome.
My winner is another rookie.
Dondry freaking Swift of the Lions.
We bitched about it
earlier in the week
about how I really
was starting to get annoyed
that the Lions weren't using
their almost first round
running back at all,
like giving him like zero carries
literally in one game and barely using him
in the passing game. Well, that's not true.
They were using them a little bit in the passing game.
But basically, I wanted them to like,
we've seen enough of Adrian Peterson. Come on.
Let's get this guy going.
You don't have anything to lose.
And sure enough, you know, outside the box
thinking by Matt Patricia,
decided to give their highly talented
almost first round running back some touches
in the run game. And voila,
116 yards, two touchdowns.
I know you're mad because you're very rarely salty
like this. It's like that dogball line
like, interesting strategy, Cotton.
Let's see how it plays out.
Let's see.
It's just like they had to do the most fucking obvious thing possible
and give their really talented running back the ball.
And, you know, positive things happen.
So anyways, it was good to see.
He was the first Lions rookie with 100 rushing yards
and two rushing TDs in a game since Barry Sanders.
I've heard of him.
The question, obviously, going forward is, you know,
is this something, is he here to stay?
Is this his breakout game?
Is this like his coming out party?
Or is this just another aberration?
Obviously, they were playing the Jags, whose defense is terrible, and that could be a factor.
Also, much to my chagrin, Adrian Peterson, also got 14 carries, which is the same exact number as Andre Swift.
And he scored the first touchdown.
Yeah.
So Swift just did a lot more with his carries.
He had a big, like, 50-something-yard run.
I think the good news with this backfield, though, is carry-on is not very involved at this point.
So it goes from being a three-headed monster, which is just a.
fantasy disaster to a committee approach with the two guys, but at least you know, I think at least
you know that Swift is going to be involved, going to get touches on the ground. And that carryon
is now at this point a sit, like, drop. I love the way you said that. The good news is
Carry on Johnson's not involved. Thank God. Yeah. Would you drop carry on though? If you have
carry on, would you drop them? Yeah, pretty much. I mean, there's always a chance that someone gets
hurt, but yeah, at this point he had four carries because he's not a factor in the passing game.
And Swift, on the other hand, is a very good receiving back. And to me, just gives them a lot more,
it's just, you know, you have more deception in your offense. They don't know what you're going to do.
They, you know, he can go out and run a route. He can run the ball. He's shown that he's
affected on the ground. So, yeah, Swift, big winner this week. If he's out there on waivers, obviously,
go get him. He's probably not in a lot of leagues, but I know that just his usage has been
frustrating. And so if someone who picked him could have dropped him at this point, and if he's
out there, go get him. So he's a start for you weekly now going forward? He's a flex. I'm still
a little concerned about this coaching staff because everything they've shown us is that they're
not very logical. But I do think that it's going to be at least a two-person committee now,
and that's good for Swift. Well, you're a logical, D.K., that's what matters to us.
Thank you. Craig, do you have a winner of the week?
Julio Jones is my winner of the week
I think that
the conversation was
was going on
is Julio Dunn conversation
I think it was really the first time that it was like
He was not is he done
he had a hamstring injury
No there were so many tweets about like
2020 his yards per route run
way lower than every other year
like might be washed Calvin Ridley season
it was going in the Twitter sphere
I would fight but Dicke's nodding
I think people are
I think people were
pulling out the old dusty word
If I can if I can whinge for a moment
That word's not used enough
But can I whinge?
Everyone was giving Julio crap
For that game like a month ago
And no one really noticed that
Remember when he dropped that touchdown in the end zone
You're like pulled up with a hamstring injury
Like two plays before that
Went back in the game
Drop that touchdown everyone's like
Why'd you drop the touchdown?
Who you suck?
And I'm like I can't believe he's on the field
And ever since then
I've just looked at a season differently
Maybe it's just me
Well, yeah, right. So he's ostensibly only played two games this year. He said two healthy games,
week one, and then last week. And in those games, he had 20 and then 29. And then in the middle
three weeks, he was banged up his hamstring, and he had three and five points. But I think a lot of
people were ready to sell Julio, and maybe even did, but still think he's the best receiver on the
Falcons. And he looks fired up. He's not the most, like, emotive guy. But I mean, he was catching
balls. And he was like, you know, doing the first down marker. Yeah. He seemed happy to be back. And
their next two games are playing the lions and the Panthers.
I was going to ask, do you think he is a sell high?
No.
You want to hang on to that?
You want to ride the Julio wave?
100%.
I will say this about Julio.
I would put a fair amount of money that there is no great fantasy football player
who's been traded in fantasy leagues more of the last five years than Julio Jones.
I feel like there's no, like every league has had a Julio Jones trade in the past three years.
He's boring.
It always happens.
He's the same every year.
He's like he has pretty much no personality to like the public.
And he's, no, but he is consistently inconsistent in a bizarre way.
Yeah.
But ever, I mean, he's literally a top five receiver, I think every year of his career that he's been helping.
On average.
By the way, from like a football point of view, how much does he unlock that offense?
He's so good.
Like, he, it was clear Matt Ryan was super happy to have him back, man.
I mean, he just changes the way defenses have to play you.
And he got in the end zone.
Twice.
Yeah.
It's like a holiday.
Okay.
Ring her burn book?
Let's do the burn book.
First of all, actually, before we do the burn book,
I want to ask Craig if he has any,
if he wants to amend any of the current burn book
occupied, like people occupying the burn book right now,
including A.J. Green, who,
Craig is just having,
Craig's been having a hard time.
Just a little peek behind the curtain here.
Craig was texting Danny and I.
I think it was on Saturday.
Regret, regret, regret.
I got, I got this trade offer for AJ Green.
I don't even want to talk about it.
I don't even know.
Should I give up?
I'm not going to give up the exact.
I won't tell you the exact trade parameters,
but basically I had to be like, Craig.
Craig, A.J. Green is in your burn book.
You can't trade for A.J. Green the week after putting them in the burn book,
you can't do it.
I talked them off the leg.
It was a H.J. Green for Henry Ruggs, and I didn't do it.
But this is why you're in the burn book.
It doesn't mean you're going to be bad every week.
It means you're going to be unpredictable and you can't trust them.
Yeah, it means you're going to be wrong all the time.
Yeah, if they're consistently bad, that's not you're not getting burned.
It's, they have to be good enough that you, they have to give you trust issues.
That's really the essence of the burn book.
Yeah.
So it's like, you know, I was so on, AJ Green.
Or not, I wouldn't say so on, but I was a believer in him.
And I thought he was going to be like a big part of this offense and pretty much be doing what T. Higgins has been doing.
And I finally was like, okay, I am so done.
Enough is enough.
Enough is enough.
And then now, of course, honestly, not only did he, he didn't have like a fake stat line either one.
Like, he had a lucky tipped catch.
Like, he looked good.
He made, like, really impressive, like crunch time catches.
in the game.
And I'm keeping them in the burn book.
Oh, okay.
So you're not going to take them out.
Well, I'm trying to remember in mean girls,
did they ever take people out of the burn book?
I don't know.
I mean, we could come up with the process.
I feel like you'd have to,
we'd have to have like a ceremony.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like dragons.
You can like reborn from the ashes or something.
We can figure something out.
I do think this is, like,
AJ Green is relevant again in my mind.
I'd written them off.
Really one week?
It's one week.
There has to be a grace period.
This is too much
of an emotional roller coaster.
This is fantasy is so insane.
Recy bias kills me.
It's like a trade review period.
We're not letting the burn book be unburned
after like a week.
There has to be a minimum of like 14 days.
Yeah.
Like this absolutely, there's no way.
It's kind of like you break up with someone.
You got to wait at least a week to text them.
Well, that's like Bill and Sean's Oscars thing
where you need to wait five years to actually tell
if a movie should have won the Oscar.
Yes.
That's like, yeah.
Wait a wait.
at least five days until after a good game.
Speaking of which,
I'm going to completely break that rule right now,
and I'm going to burn all the Colts tight ends.
I'm done with all them.
I already put Jack Doyle in the book.
I'm done with all them.
I said a rough go.
I said the Colts tight ends would be amazing.
I picked Jack Doyle to be a breakout tight end.
If you could composite the Colts tight end as a position,
I'd be rich.
I'd have that Bugatti.
I'd do everything.
Instead, I pumped up Doyle.
And then he got hurt,
and Mo Ali Cox is great.
And then I said,
Moe Alley Cox would be good.
And then he hurt his knee,
and now Trey Burton's good.
And I've seen this movie.
I'm not going to hop on the Trey Burton
and just keep getting flipped upside down.
Like I'm on the bottom of a wheel.
Also, hi-if it's Jack Doyle got a touchdown.
I know, right as I got off.
I'm so mad.
And you know what I'm not doing?
I'm not going to hop back.
I'm not playing this whack-a-mole anymore.
I'm going to just be like, you know what?
I was right about the position.
I have been wrong every week about which person
at that Colts tight-ed position would do it.
I'm getting off the train
and everyone left
on the bandwagon
I hope you have a good time.
The Colts are quietly
like a dumpster fire fantasy team.
It's just...
Even Jonathan Taylor has been
disappointed.
Nahim Hines,
who made me feel so vindicated
in week one,
has done nothing since then.
I think you can feel okay
if you cut him,
even though he will have
another big game
and it just won't be predictable.
Yeah, Taylor's been
disappointing considering
theoretically the opportunity he has.
Ty Yilton's been garbage.
He's my burn book guy
this week, in fact.
Yeah.
Is he?
burning.
We're just going with all the
Colts offense. Maybe we should burn
Philip Rivers while we're at it. Burn Indianapolis.
Yeah, I'm going
with Tyoy Hilton and basically I think it's
just like time to give up hope
that this is going to change. Fantasy
points, Joe Dolan had like
the perfect summation tweet this morning
of TY Hilton. He has finished as
this is per Dolan. He has finished as
a top 36 wide receiver and PPR
once in six games this year.
He has finished as a top 24
receiver zero times. He has
10 or more PBR fantasy points
just twice in 11 games.
He hasn't scored a touchdown in a year.
The Colts, and this is also keeping in mind,
the Colts lost Paris Campbell in like week one or two.
Michael Pittman's been out,
and Hilton still hasn't been able to do anything.
Rivers threw the ball 44 times in this last game,
connected with people that you've never heard of,
and Hilton had one catch.
I'm just, I'm not starting him ever again.
I'm pretty much off.
This is like a very similar AJ Green situation
where I'm just like,
I think it's too late.
I'm not going to be putting him in any lineups ever again.
TY, more like, thank you for your contributions and goodbye.
Yeah, TY's brutal.
So we're done with Indianapolis as a whole.
Like, we're done with the city.
Like, we don't need your immensely walkable downtown convention center.
I was going to say, hi, fits, you like, we like, we like Indianapolis.
It's a good combine city.
It's the last thing that we knew before, you know, before COVID hit, before we've had to go
into quarantine for the last.
That was the last chapter for us in the before times.
Although now we're burning the city, can I just say, you know what?
The shrimp at that very nice restaurant, everyone loves.
Immensely overrated.
Deeply.
We don't need the city.
Burn the shrimp.
Burn, burn, burn the cults.
Okay.
Okay.
Let's go to waiver wire stuff.
Some injuries from this week, Miles Sanders, he is expected to miss one to two weeks,
as is Zach Ertz who had high ankle sprain.
He will actually miss three to four weeks, and that is including Thursday night football
for each.
they're playing the Giants on Thursday
so it's at least one week plus that
from it's one game plus maybe
another from Al Sanders or it might be a month
Devante Parker left the Dolphins game
with a groin injury
Jono Smith the titan for the Titans left with an ankle injury
he didn't return though they say it's considered minor
Mark Angram for the Ravens had an ankle injury
and then Adam Thiel and Joe Mixin
were banged up at various points but they seem
possibly okay but monitor that throughout the week
and then Rahim Moster with the 49ers
size of money afternoon we still don't know a ton about
that ankle injury, but he was playing very well,
and then he left that game.
I think he came in, left again.
But that one, all those are worth monitoring.
But with that said, let's go position by position here
and look at some guys to stream this week
and then just stash in general.
Starting with quarterbacks,
just to note the teams on by this week are cults.
Thank God.
It's because we burned them.
They need a week to get over it.
The cults, Vikings, dolphins, and Ravens,
which if you really think about it for very different teams,
but we don't need to go into that.
So quarterback, if you need to stream someone,
week, Dika, who are you looking at?
I think there's a few options here.
So Daniel Jones has the Eagles, the banged-up Eagles on Thursday night fall.
The burn book.
No, you know why?
Can I give you an unscientific, no?
That it actually has nothing to do with me being a Giants fan.
Sure.
It's one of those where if you're wrong, you have to sit with it the whole weekend.
Yeah.
And that's the worst kind.
It's the milk was a bad choice pick.
Yes.
It's like, you have to just sit there with your stomach being like, why did I do this?
This is 48 hours ago, and it's still bothering me.
You don't don't do that to yourself.
We should make a fantasy lineup.
We should make a fan dual lineup of our burn book, people.
And then win?
And have it play against our million dollar lineup each week and see which one's better.
Oh, my God.
I don't want to think about that.
Holy cow.
Sorry, D.K., I interrupted you.
Who else?
No, that's fine.
I agree with that and I appreciate your perspective.
Yeah, these are just options, right?
This is literally not in any order.
Daniel Jones versus Philly, Teddy Bridgewater versus New Orleans.
Gardner Minchew, who has been really off.
compared to earlier on in the season,
but he's still scoring fantasy points.
A couple that I really like, Herbert and Burrow.
And then Tannahill, if he is in,
if he's still out there on waivers,
which probably not,
but if he still is.
Well, 45% of ESPN leagues is slightly higher on Yahoo,
but 45% on Yahoo.
I think it's like 60 something or 70,
60 something percent on Yahoo.
He's rostered.
So it's unlikely,
but if he's still out there,
he's definitely a good potential streamer this week.
So do you guys want to rank these?
I think Tana Hill is number one.
Obviously, yeah, that doesn't require time.
Where's Carson Wendz fit in this?
How much are Herbert and...
They're all right around 50-ish.
I think Herbert's 45 or so.
Herbert's 54, Burroughs 65.
I think I would have Herbert next.
Herbert going up against the Jags.
I think that's a good matchup for him.
I think he has shown that he's really good.
He's also got that rushing upside.
I might even put Herbert over Tannhill this week because of Pittsburgh.
They're going up against the Steelers,
but probably based on everything I said earlier in the podcast,
I should stick with my take that Tanna Hill is elite.
But man, Herbert is...
Have you abandoned it 30 minutes later?
You've abandoned your child?
No, no.
So yeah, I'd go Tanna Hill, Herbert.
Yeah.
And then who else would you go Burrough?
Wendz, Burrow, Bridgewater,
and then Daniel Jones only if you want a stomach egg.
And if you want to go a touch deeper,
I mean, you got Baker playing the Bengals?
Would anybody do that?
if you're desperate.
I don't know.
Yeah, you got Foles playing the Rams.
Yeah.
Well, he's going to, well, hmm.
I mean, he feeds off the criticism.
So maybe we should just criticize Baker right now
and then start him in our lineups.
I'd rather have like four or five guys over that.
Either way, the truth is we're talking about Colts, Vikings, Dolphins.
So really, it's just this is not,
you're not starting any of those people probably.
So it's just people of Lamar are on by.
So I think it's fine.
It'll be fine.
There's plenty of options.
Running back.
The obvious one here is Boston Scott,
because Miles Sanders is hurt.
Yep.
So there's him and Corey Clement.
The week one when Miles Sanders didn't play, Boston Scott had like five points.
So I don't know.
Do you like him, D.K.?
I like Boston Scott.
I'm also biased.
I like Boston Scott, the player a lot.
I don't like the Eagles offense very much.
They did put up 28 second half points against the Ravens, which is kind of unreal.
But, I mean, just based on the way, just their offensive line is completely banged up,
their receiver core is completely banged up.
Wentz has been really hit or miss.
it's likely that they are going to be in a negative game script against whoever they're playing.
They've just been bad.
This week they do have the Giants.
I think that they can,
I think Boston Scott's a good play this week.
Who's going to win that game, Hyfitz?
I mean, probably the Eagles.
I think of all the potential streamers this week, Boston Scott would be my number one choice.
I think there's a couple other guys that you could plug in as like desperation flexes and we'll get to those guys.
But if I'm streaming a guy, it's Boston Scott because he has a potential to be
like the starter. The second guy is J.D. McKissick for Washington, who has been getting a good
amount of targets, a good amount of touches in the Washington offense. They haven't handed the
ball completely over to Antonio Gibson yet, despite Craig's pleas and, and despite Craig being very,
very angry about it. Yeah, they're still using McKissick quite a bit. It's basically like a 50-50 time
share. So he's, I mean, he's like good for eight to 10 ppr points. You know, if you really need a,
like a plug-in guy at the flex spot.
week. A couple stashes at the running back position, I think that are really interesting.
Michael Hastie of the 49ers came in and basically iced the game for San Francisco
last week or on Sunday night football. And he looked really solid. Honestly, he's like quick.
He's a guy that was at the senior bowl. I think he was very intriguing there. He doesn't have a lot
of size, but he's very, very quick. Where do you go to the passing game? Baylor.
Do you know his heightway combo? Looking it up now. You know this off the top of your head.
5'8-195.
58205.
Really?
You got the height to this inch.
No, I corrected myself 205.
Oh, did you?
Yeah.
Oh.
Can we rewind the tape?
That'll come across in the audio for the listeners.
There you go.
Wow.
I said 195.
No, 205.
Anyways.
Wow, that's actually...
That's insane that you do that.
Okay.
Anyway, Jamaica.
All right.
So basically,
Tevin Coleman's got any injury.
Jeff Wilson was inactive this week with a calf injury.
And honestly,
McKinnon has just...
He hasn't looked like...
He didn't really look like he was like full speed last night.
So with Mostert, potentially missing time with an ankle spray.
I don't know if you noticed last week, or last night,
but he basically didn't play in the second half.
I think he was like he took himself out.
He had an ankle injury.
And that could be a multi-week injury.
If Mostert's out, Hasty is absolutely a start, startable player.
If Mostert plays, Hasty could still be the backup based on the way that their back,
or wasting the way their depth chart is, like, injured right now.
now. So I think he's an absolute stash and potentially a start this week based on what
Moster does. A lot of, it's hard to rank these for people listening because we're doing this
Monday afternoon and the truth is a lot of this depends on the injury news that shakes out.
So let's just say for thought exercise purposes that Mixon is out for like a week or two.
Miles Stannis, we do know, is out for a week or two. And let's say Moster's out for a week
or two, all equally speaking. And let's see Mark Ingram's out for two weeks because the
Ravens are on by this week. But that, I mean, that seems the shakiest. But, let's say,
Let's say two weeks.
So, Gio Bernard for the Bengals,
Gus Edwards for the Ravens,
to Michael Hastie for the Niners,
Boston Scott for the Eagles.
Now, obviously,
if the starter is not out,
that guy kind of drops out
of this conversation
other than speculative stuff.
But if all those guys
are out for like two weeks,
how would you rank these guys?
Because I know in my head,
I would go hasty for the Niners
is definitely number one.
If Mixing's out,
I want Bernard next,
then I want Boston Scott for the Eagles.
Gus Edwards is definitely last for me.
And then...
Yeah.
But what do you think?
Gus Edwards is last, even if Mark Ingram is out, you're saying?
Yes, because the Ravens are on by for this week.
So there's so much more uncertainty built into whether Ingram would play.
And even if Ingram misses the game, Jackie Dobbins could just take, you know, Gus says lunch.
But it would be different if the Ravens play this week.
I would rank it.
Which offense do I have the most faith in?
It's the 49ers.
The run game is really good.
So hasty.
And then it would be really close between Boston Scott and Gio Bernardi.
I probably go Gio just because the Bengals are, I think, a better offense at this point.
and then, yeah, and then I'd have Scott.
And La Michael P. Ryan of the Jets is another option, or Frank, or, you know, with Lev Bell now gone.
Both of those guys are getting play.
But honestly, those are desperation plays because the Jets' offense is terrible.
No, I was thinking about this.
I think Le Michael P. Ryan's a good stash, and here's why.
You don't want the Jets on your team, right?
Because they suck, obviously.
But they mostly suck because of Adam Gase, and we don't like Adam Gase.
But what happens to fantasy players freed from the yoke of Adam Gase, which seems,
imminent. So if you get ahead of the train and you're like Adam Gase has between 24 hours and 24
days at absolute most left as coach of the Jets. And then you have Le Michael P. Ryan and then he becomes
the starting running back. What if he becomes good? What do you think of that?
But then it's like Greg Williams coaching. It's not exactly the greatest switcheroo.
Well, you don't think that'll unleash the floodgates for the Jets offense, the Greg Williams
experience? Can we talk about one other running back thing? Cam Acres got zero touches on Sunday
night? Yeah, one snap.
So like, what's up?
Like, are we...
Ridiculous.
It's similar to me
with Todd Gurley thingies.
I don't think that they're
totally honest about how healthy is,
you know, it's just,
I mean, this is my guess,
unless he just lost his talent,
like space jam.
So he, like, played last week,
got nine carries,
got, and like hit his ribs even harder,
and then now they're like,
well, he's hurt even more now.
I think it's a hot hand situation,
which is always like...
But they never gave him a chance.
I guess...
I don't know.
Well, Darrell Henderson looked like
he was running really well.
Is he dropable, D.K.?
Is he dropable?
Cam Acres.
That's the problem
is like,
it depends on,
it depends on your situation.
It depends on your situation.
I wouldn't drop him yet because I do think that they're planning on getting him more involved
as the season goes on.
But Henderson was running well.
And it was one of those situations where like the game,
the game script didn't really present a way that he could get in there
and be like more productive.
If they're leading,
if they're running a whole bunch,
then maybe he would have gotten more snaps.
They talked about getting him more action coming into the game.
But, you know, they got down early.
They were basically trying to catch up the whole game.
And it just didn't really work out.
I think it's really a hot-hand situation where, like,
McFey was just like, I trust what Malcolm Brown and Henderson are going to do better right now.
So, but if he's not dropable, is he even a little startable or no?
Seems not.
Not yet.
But do you cut someone who's not even a little startable?
Are you just waiting for someone to get hurt, basically?
Well, the thing is, he's got the upside of somebody.
Like, if you have, you know,
Gio Bernard on your team
and Mixon's perfectly healthy
I think I'd rather have
Acres because you know
as everybody says like an unpredictable
backfield is where you can find value and like
I don't I still don't think Darrell Henderson's like
the you know the absolute workhorse
I think that it still could fluctuate
Malcolm Brown plays a lot
Geo Bernard's like not going to do anything unless mixing gets hurt
I don't know if that's necessarily the case for mixing
I mean for acres for the rest of the season
he's their first round pick
it's the D'Andre Swift thing
it's funny it's funny because I feel like we always talk about rookies in production and it's funny because I was saying rookie receivers will start slow in reality the rookie receivers have been fine and the rookie running backs have really had trouble every single one of them's just not how it usually goes but it's funny that flipped speaking which receivers
weird week for receivers DK who would you add a receiver this week because we got Travis Folgham who is the fourth like you know your eighth grade math teacher or and or the name of actual receiver you should add I mean there's actually quite a few I think
Travis Fulgum is definitely a thing with the, with the Eagles.
He's proven I think that he belongs with the starters,
even when they start getting guys back like Deshaun Jackson or Al-Shan.
I still think he's going to be out there because of what he's been able to show.
Tim Patrick of the Broncos has quietly been really good.
He had another eight targets, four catches, 101 yards.
Basically last week he had six catches, 113 yards in the score.
The week before that, four catches, 43 yards in the score.
He's been pretty solid, honestly.
and Judy's been really hit and miss.
KJ Hamler and Noah Fant are both out still.
Once those guys come back, Patrick can see his...
I think fans back next week.
I wouldn't add Tim Patrick,
because Tim Patrick looks so good when you watch him,
and then you realize that he's just a tertiary option
on the Denver Broncos.
Yeah.
Well, he's not right now,
but he will be when guys start coming back, I think.
And so that makes his window for opportunity really short.
I'm good on Tim Patrick, I think.
that's fair.
Tim Patrick, though,
if he had a cooler name,
would be a good ad.
If he was named Leviska-Schanalt,
wow,
we would be all over,
Tim Patrick.
Yeah.
A couple others,
I think T. Higgins is an absolute must-ad
if he is still out there.
He's basically their number one now.
He's the Bengals number one.
He's really...
It's not AJ Green.
He's ascending quickly,
had a couple more big plays on Sunday.
Just,
he's exactly what I'd hoped he'd be in the NFL,
like he has a couple of big plays game.
They're using him in the short and intermediate area as well.
He's obviously got the...
the size to be a red zone target.
And Burrow clearly loves him.
So that's huge.
Keel and Cole, the Jaguars, has been really consistent quietly and continues to be one of Gardner
Mitchell's favorite target.
So he's still out there.
Six catches, 143 yards versus the lions.
Also, we love Keel and Cole.
Like, if we ran an NFL team, the first thing we would do is trade like a future
sixth round pick for Keel and Cole.
Absolutely.
He's had four plus catches or a touchdown in every game this year.
So, you know, he's got that solid floor.
He's double digits in three of six games and a half PPR this year.
And then one stash guy, I know that we just got done burning the entire Colts offense,
but Marcus Johnson, the Colts, has quietly made some really big plays for them.
And so he is in deeper leagues or, you know, if you have had major injuries or whatever,
you need a guy that can fill in.
Marcus Johnson is a potential guy to plug into that flex spot.
five catches, 108 yards this last week.
He's got a lot of speed, and he's big.
And he's been a big play threat for the Colts.
Like, they don't have other guys that can do that.
Ty Whiilton has been just dusty.
Dusty.
We just burn the Colts.
Johnson is like, he's a really deep cut type ad, but.
All right.
So flip side from the deep cut, like, shallow cut.
Mike Williams, for the Chargers, is owned.
And he's rostered in less than half of leagues, ESPNNNN. Yahoo.
people just kind of cut bait
played really well in a football
it was there by this week
I think the combo of him being injured
and then the quarterback swap
and then the buy people have got him
where would you rank him on all these people
would you rather have Mike Williams or Travis Fulgum right now
I think I would rank it T. Higgins 1
Williams 2
Folgum 3
Cole for Patrick 5
can I throw out
I think it's time to start adding back
Jalen Rager and Deshawn Jackson
they're both on IR but I think those are great calls
yeah they're both going to be back
One of my favorite things to do in fantasy is to go grab the guy on IR a week before everybody else will,
even if he sits there for an extra week because they could be such a difference maker moving on.
Deshawn Jackson, I mean, it's still good enough to when he plays.
Like, he'll be fantastic.
And then Jalen Rager was good for the brief amount of time he played.
The Eagles play the Giants, the Cowboys, and the Giants, and then the Browns.
And if you can get those guys back in two weeks, I mean, they could be starting on your team.
Are the Eagles going to win the NFC East?
Probably.
Maybe.
I would also at Dallas Goddard, though, for the same reason.
might not necessarily play this week against the giants, but he's...
You should spend a lot of your money on Dallas Goddard.
I would go get Dallas Goddard for sure, because it's not like, it's not one of the
situations where when Zacherts comes back, I think now that, look, I, last week I loved
Zach Ertz and I was very bullish.
Now that he's a high ankle sprain, now there's a problem because he now he's 30 and in a
contract year and is a high ankle sprain, which as we've discussed multiple times this
season lingers.
It's like a month at least.
It's, yeah, as month is the minimum, and he's on a contract.
Now this is just all set up, and I mean, Dallas Goddard also had an ankle.
I mean, he had a smaller fracture, I think.
But he's on a rookie contract.
Now, if the Eagles were basically, their plan seems to have been,
we'll wait out the season and decide what to do with Ertz's contract later.
Now this is a problem for Earth.
So it's not a guarantee that Ertz is the starting tight end now when he comes back from
this injury.
So Goddard, honestly, of all the names that we've talked about so far,
if you have a bad tight end, I would actually prioritize Goddard first.
because if he's healthy when he returns,
that could be a top five tight end for the rest of the season,
just sitting there and all you've got to do is figure out
what you're going to do Thursday if he doesn't play,
and then just make sure you get him.
The problem, I agree with that 100%.
Goddard is one of those guys who could be a top three tight end
in once he comes back.
The problem is we don't really know exactly how long he's going to be out.
He's eligible to come off the IR this week.
Well, he was supposed to, like the original injury report
was that he was only going to miss like two or three weeks.
I don't think I believe that though.
It's very unknown, but if you have the leagues where you have the IR spots this year,
and it's a whole thing because some people only want them for COVID and some people want to.
But if you can stick Dallas Goddard in an IR spot, I would make him number one of all these guys.
If you don't need someone to play immediately.
Because when he does play, he could be so good.
This is just like a forward-looking move for a team that's not in desperation mode.
So other tight-end should look at, we mentioned Anthony Furkser,
if Giannis Smith misses any times for Titans.
We think we'll ever get that name right the whole season?
FERCER.
FERCER.
It's just the game.
No, it's FERCER.
No, it's FERCER.
It's not FERC-FERC.
Well, whoever typed it in, it's Furstker, but that's wrong.
That might have been my fault.
I'm fairly confident.
It's not Fersker.
Firstker?
Are you for sure?
Anyway, moving on.
Trey Burton for the Colts, I'm out on this whole cult situation,
but only because I'm too close to the sun here.
But he's probably,
Trey Burton probably good at if you want to get your heartbroken.
Trey Burton, by the way, had a rushing touchdown.
They used him.
He's an old wildcat quarterback style.
He's the Philly special guy.
The Darren Fells for the Texans.
So this is one of those guys that catches a lot of touchdowns,
and you're like, they won't keep doing that.
The one note is the guy calling plays for the Texans.
That was the tight ends coach.
So you never know.
Maybe it'll just keep happening.
Irv Smith for the Vikings,
he's getting involved.
He has been running a lot of routes the last couple weeks.
And he's still third in the past.
order clearly, but if you're going to buy into the garbage time, man, Irv Smith.
So just to recap, and basically get Goddard as a tight end. At receiver, we like Fulgum,
Mike Williams, T. Higgins, Keel and Cole, Patrick, Johnson, but there's, you know, tears in that
order. Mark, Marcus Johnson. Mark, oh, sorry. Tim Patrick and Marcus Johnson. T. Higgins, by far
are my favorite on that list. It's the time of year we have to start giving people to cut, because we
can't just tell people to add.
So we mentioned carry on Johnson, probably a cut.
Naheem Hines, I love the man, cutting him.
Like, I'm time to cut him at this point of the season.
It's totally, if you're holding onto him for hope, I wouldn't have it anymore.
Would you guys cut Malcolm Brown?
You got to hold on to him, right?
But he had two carries last night for four yards.
I'm totally, I'm 100% biased because I have the Acres Hope.
And I have the, I also have Daryl Henderson Hope.
To me, Malcolm Brown looks like he's running in mud.
So I don't, I guess it's the trust factor with the coaching staff.
like they just trust him to do his job,
but he's not the most dynamic running back in that group.
I would probably be fine cutting him.
Receiver,
I think Marvin Jones Jr. and Golden Tate are both cuts.
Marvin Jones Jr. has 146 yards total this season.
He has the same amount as O.J. Howard,
who tore his Achilles many weeks ago.
And then Golden Tate is also a cut because even if it was a good game,
I don't care.
He's not reliable.
And then tied in,
I would cut Eric Ebron if you're still holding on to him.
I don't think he's going to do anything.
I've never liked Eric Ebron, though.
It's not happening.
There's too many other good options in that offense.
Why would they keep getting?
Why did they feed Ebrod?
Yeah, that's not a problem.
Okay.
And then also some defenses to stream
since the Ravens, Colts, Vikings,
dolphins are on by and Ravens and Colts are actually two of the most
roster defenses.
If someone dropped to Tampa Bay defense because they were playing the
Packers and then there was a bot,
fix that.
Get the bucks, obviously.
But it's kind of a tricky week to stream defenses if not.
But I would say Dallas is maybe a galaxy brain play.
But they're playing Washington this week.
So if you want to just throw a dart against,
Kyle Allen and Washington
Kyle Allen turns the ball over
at, I mean, like a historic rate.
Kyle Allen averages.
I mean, if you count fumbles as turnovers,
even if it's not lost,
it's like two per game basically in his career,
which is crazy.
And then Chiefs against Denver,
Jorlocks 100%,
not a terrible one.
And then also charges against Jacksonville.
I mean, it's kind of like
really bottom of the barrel this week.
But those are the three I'm looking at
if you're trying to play stream matchups.
Anything else this week, guys?
One more drop.
just so everybody can remember
I know it was at the start of the show
but you should draw up Nathan
Peterman
what team is he even on at this point
is he on the Raiders
so yeah so my favorite
coaching thing is that coaches think every player
who's bad they think every player is good
but they're coached poorly
so the
the Rams picked up Blake Bortles
yeah and Sean McVeves like oh yeah I'll coach
I'll coach it out of him because like you know
let's make him good and then John
Gruden who's jealous of Sean McVeigh
and I think that because of McVane Shanhan,
the shine they got is why he came back.
And so he's like,
screw it.
I'll sign Nathan Peterman.
And that's part of,
like the Nathan Peterman,
Blake Bortle's signings that they did
was part of their little shadow war.
D.K.,
before we go,
first of all,
what college did Nathan Peterman go to?
Purdue.
It is a P.
It's not.
No.
Purdue.
No,
I know.
Pitt.
Yep,
Pitt.
What is Nathan Petermin's height and weight?
I have that up as well.
He's,
let's see here.
He's probably 6-3.
2.20. He is 6-2-2-25. Pretty good.
Oh, this is close. This is close. Okay. Maybe next time, D.K.
You only have to get 1,240 of those wrong in a row to get on Nathan Peterman's level.
All right. Thank you, Craig. Thank you to Nathan Peterman. Bless your heart.
Thank you to everyone for listening. We will see you guys on Wednesday.
