The Ringer NFL Show - Week 7 Bold Predictions, Million-Dollar Lineup, and Fantasy Court
Episode Date: October 23, 2020We look back on our Week 6 predictions and offer up our gut calls and bold predictions for Week 7, build our million-dollar daily fantasy lineup, and finish the show with a rousing edition of Fantasy ...Court. Keenan Allen (21:52) Matt Ryan (28:07) Lions vs. Falcons (29:17) Tyler Lockett (31:31) Drew Brees and Jared Cook (33:27) Kareem Hunt (35:05) Tee Higgins (38:26) George Kittle (42:03)) Terry McLaurin (44:49) Million-Dollar Lineup (47:38) Fantasy Court (49:40) Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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On today's episode, we talk about why Tyler Lockett is going to have a big week, why George Kittle is not, and how all the West Coast wide receivers are underrated every single one.
We also run through our million dollar lineup, which I forgot to enter last week, and we make a fantasy court ruling on whether a white claw is a beer.
Stick around.
Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy football show.
I am Danny Hyfitts here with Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck.
DK. How you doing, man?
I'm doing well.
How are you?
I'm fantastic.
Craig, what's up?
Hi Fitz, you're in a backwards hat.
I am in a backwards hat.
It's October.
It's not spring break.
Take the hat off.
Flip it around.
Don't give me that.
Time is irrelevant now.
Time does ceases to exist.
Why do you have the hat on?
Why not?
Bad hair day?
Yeah.
No, that actually is what happened.
Oh, really?
Yeah, now you just hair shamed me.
How do you feel?
My hair looks like I got electrocuted it.
And it's just the three of us on the Zoom.
What is it?
The kid from the Incredibles.
That's always like kind of what.
I think about your hair. Syndrome.
Oh, syndrome.
That's your hair.
I thought you were going to say Dash.
And I was like, that's cool.
No, no, no, not Dash.
Not the cool one.
No.
Actually, you know what kind of looks like Dash?
DK.
Calvin Kelly kind of looks like Dash.
Oh yeah, that like hardcore blonde.
If Dash were a fullback, that would be your son, D.K.
I wish I knew what you guys were talking about, but I don't know.
I have never seen The Incredibles.
What?
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
That's insane.
And this is, we're going to do a.
poll. We're going to do a poll on today's episode. You've got to swipe down if you're lucky it'll
be there. The poll is going to be this. What is more embarrassing? That D.K. hasn't seen the
Incredibles. That Danny Hyfitz hasn't seen wedding crashes. And what should be the third one?
Your hair looks like syndrome from the Incredibles. No, it should be a DK doesn't know a Drake song.
Wait, you have to be involved too, Craig. This can't just be two of my embarrassing moments.
I don't have anything embarrassing about me. We'll settle this all fair, but there will definitely be a
We'll definitely have a poll.
We'll figure out what the options are, but please vote in that poll.
If you're on Spotify, it's on the actual episode page you're on right now.
Please vote.
We're not going to send you a laptop or anything if you vote, but we will ask very nicely.
Please vote in the poll.
Guys, we have some fun news here.
One of the most fun players in the NFL might be back.
Des Bryant is potentially signing to the Ravens Practice Squad.
It's kind of deflating when you actually read what happened because it's like,
oh, he's on the practice squad.
So, okay.
But he was tweeting.
about the Cowboys on Monday Night Football,
just like a really exuberant fan like three days ago.
So it's kind of funny that he's on an NFL team again.
But I mean, there's no fantasy value here whatsoever.
Is there, D.K.?
He's the same age as Julio Jones.
Isn't he really?
He hasn't played since 2017.
Just saying he's the same age as Julio Jones.
That's wild.
Because he feels like he's been out of the league.
I feel like he was trying to catch on with the Saints
and got hurt like two years ago.
He's a year younger than AJ Green.
I do think it is fascinating.
though, like, is he coming in?
And I guess they're probably signing him to the practice squad because then it gives him
a ramp up period before, you know, to go through all the COVID protocols, first of all,
and then to get ramped up to the offense.
And then maybe they'll call him up to the majors, so to speak.
But I just, I do think it is fascinating that the timing of all this.
Like, they obviously have a reason for doing this.
Maybe it's because Miles Boykin hasn't been as good as they thought he'd be the second
around pick from a couple years ago or what, but
he's definitely, in my mind,
he's not going to come in and be the number one
on that offense. Like, Markey's Brown
is the clear number one. Mark
Andrews is the clear one B
or two, I guess it doesn't do enough.
The offense just doesn't have enough
volume to go around. Des would be like the type
of guy who have like one or two catches the game.
He'd like catch one 30 yard pass a game. Kind of like
what Josh Gordon used to do on the C-Hawks.
He's going to be exactly what
Mike Evans is this year. He's like the
goal line fade guy and that's it.
you could convince me that the Ravens trading for Janick and Gokwe
will affect the Ravens defense and special teams fantasy-wise
more than Des Bryant will ever affect your team for the rest of his life combined.
So I don't think this is that big of a deal.
But good for him.
I like this.
Let's go through last week's gut-gut bold, how everyone did.
Do we have to?
Is that what's our finest?
I want to you.
I hit my bold.
Y'all made fun of me.
Oh, yeah, wait.
Where was your bold?
Did we?
I don't think we made fun of you.
I got the, people made fun of me about Irv Smith.
Well, who's people?
What are you?
Like, many people are saying right now?
Yeah.
Many people are saying I was made fun of and mocked.
There are conversations going on about my, my Irv Smith prediction.
But it paid off.
He had nine and a half.
Everyone was like, oh, he's not going to, everybody was like he's not going to have 10 fantasy points.
He had nine and a half.
We did a poll and 10,000 people voted only yes, like make fun of Craig for the Irv Smith pick.
That was the entirety of the poll.
Let's get into your guys' guts.
I'm going to run through mine real quick.
my gut my first gut was david montgomery 20 half pvr points wrong 11.7 he did i will say have the
opportunity like there was a he got a ton of volume got a ton of hair he had a touchdown called back
also he had a touchdown called back that was just like a hair away for being a touchdown so right
um he was he was closer than it sounds he had 11.7 points so not you know that was definitely a miss
on my part but and hang on to montgomery like i still think he's like a proper by low if he was two
inches forward on that one run, he would have had like 18 fantasy points and we would have been like,
wow, David Montgomery's a thing now. So stick around. Pretty solid. This is, I think, and this is
honestly going to make, we talked about the narrative around David Montgomery, Craig, like how
Twitter hates him. This game made Twitter hate him even more. Like, people are out on Montgomery.
I admit I'm wavering a little bit after this because he did. He was going up against the worst run
defense in the NFL and he had the opportunity, he had the volume to do everything. He just didn't
really do anything with it. It's just hard not to be behind the guy who's literally getting more
snaps than any other running back in the league. You know who close only counts in horseshoes and hand
grenades? Yeah. I feel like we really should, we talk about this every year. We should really do
the fantasy league where close counts. I agree. Because David Montgomery would be so good. Like,
you just get the ball the one, you automatically get the touchdown whether you got it or not.
I was going to look up if there was a website or some metric somewhere that anyone did that kept
track of how many times somebody got tackled on the one. It's just goal line carries. That's a touchdown.
downs. They haven't gone.
It's like a molligan. We call the
Calvin Johnson metric. Yeah, it's like in
golf how you have like a gimmie. You just
you don't even have to tap it in. Like that counts.
Every three, you stopped at
the ones, you get six points.
Yeah, but some people give the gimmies from like
the equivalent of like seven, like
the seven yards from the goal line.
Give me culture's out of control, to be honest.
People talk about cancel culture.
Gimmie culture, ridiculous.
Come on. People take putz, man.
Anyway, how did the rest of your picks go, Dek?
My second gut was the worst.
It was, well, actually, the last two were the worst.
Lyska-Chanal, over 100 scrimmon yards was my gut prediction.
And he just had a dud.
He was just, he had four touches, 11 yards.
Part of my prediction, I will say, was that DJ Chark was not going to play.
He ended up being a late addition to the game.
He kind of, he like gutted out this ankle injury that he had and came in.
Yeah, and he gutted out 13 targets.
He guted out your gut call.
That really, number one.
one that really fucked with my prediction. But also,
Chanel just, he couldn't get on the same page with,
with Minshu. And so that was just a really,
it's just a big miss on my part. I do think Chanel will bounce back and he'll,
he'll end up having, you know, some more good games this year. But just a bad,
bad week for that. And then my bold call and based on reactions on Twitter,
I was not the only person that was banking on a Mikul Hardman big game.
He had, my, my prediction was 80 yards and a touchdown. He had one target and zero
catches. The Hardman thing is just not happening at this point. I agree. Yeah, we got to talk about
Hardman briefly here. Yeah. He was kind of touted when they drafted him as the next Tyree
Kill. He's a second rounder, dude. And he's not. I mean, yeah, they took him when Tyreeks Hill future
and Tyreek Hill's future in the NFL was particularly uncertain. Right. But this, this Kansas
of the offense is obviously incredibly potent. And in some ways, they've underperformed for the
standards that we expected them to to perform at. Who, who's the
person to have on your team that's not Tyree Kill or Travis Kelsey in the receiving game?
Who's next?
Honestly, it's like a rotating cast. It's like not even worth having any of them at this
I don't think any of them are worth rostering because it's going to be so specific to that
week's game plan. I think DeMarcus Robinson is the guy I would run a roster first.
I think that makes you think that all of them should be rostered rather than none of them.
It's just they're so boom-bussed. I don't think there's going to be anyone more boombust than
all the chiefs receivers or pass catches rather than Kelsey and Hill. It's just like
it's not worth playing that game.
It's the least fun thing
to try to guess who the fourth option
in that offense is going to be.
I do think that the Mikul Hardman failure
was an interesting example
of a bigger thing that's happening this year
with the Chiefs, which is,
and this was especially apparent
in this game.
The Bills essentially said,
we're not going to let you beat us deep.
We're not going to let you throw the ball deep.
We're not getting beat by your speedsters.
Tyree Kill was a big disappointment in this game,
just three catches for 12.
20 yards. Obviously, Hardman, no catches. The bills essentially came out and said, we're not
going to let your speed guys beat us. You can dink and dunk us to death. And the chiefs did do that.
Like, they ran the ball 45 times or 46 times. It was the most running attempts they've ever
had in an Andy Reid coached game ever, regular or postseason. The man's been a coach for 20 years.
So this to me is like, you know, obviously the bills did not win, but they put themselves in a
position to win. And it's going to be something that team, it's something that teams have been doing
and it's something the teams are going to continue to do at a higher rate, I think.
And so it makes these guys, you know, especially like Hardman,
where his main thing is like he has a home run hitting style, very, very boomer bust.
DK, I want to read a quote from Patrick Mahomes on exactly what you're saying.
After the Bill's game, and again, they ran them more than any Andy Reid game ever.
And Patrick Mahomes said, once we saw how deep their linebackers and safeties and corners were playing,
we knew that we had to run.
We really just stayed with it.
If teams are going to play us like this, you're going to see us.
running the football. We have the guys that can do it.
It takes me back to my college days at Texas Tech when we're getting eight defenders
and pass coverage and the linebackers are six, seven yards deep.
If teams are going to do that, we've got to run the football until they come up.
And when they come up, we're going to throw the football again.
So that's really cool from an X's and O's perspective.
Totally sucks from fantasy because we don't know what defense is going to do going into the game.
Right.
It could be good for Clyde, though, especially if part of his workload gets taken out by
Levi-on Bell when he starts getting in there.
you know, his volume as a runner could go up.
So at least from that point of view, it could be good for him.
And he can't score any less touchdowns.
Like, it's not like Levi-on-Bel can take touchdowns away from him because he doesn't have him.
Maybe that's the other league we should do.
We take touchdowns away from people.
But if you look at the snaps, I just looked at the snaps from week three to week six on the chiefs.
McColl Hardman and Robinson are pretty much neck-and-neck-and-neck, except last week Robinson destroyed him and snaps.
So that just, I guess, shows you how much of a coin toss it is.
but if you want to base it off last week,
Robinson might be the guy until Hardman has a big game
and then Hardman's the guy.
I think both of them should be on somebody's team.
Freakant Byron Pringle had two catches for 46 yards.
He had like a huge third down catch.
Yeah.
It just reminded me that Pringle cans are too small.
They just need to make it so you can fit your hands in the thing.
Anyway, apologies for the bad predictions this last week.
It was an off week.
You're going to try and get back on track this week.
Back on the horse.
Okay, Craig.
How are you doing?
You got your bold.
What were your other two?
Okay, so my gut was Jonathan Taylor had the best game of his season so far. I was wrong. He had the third best game of the season so far. He had 13 and a half points. The Jonathan Taylor breakout is coming. It is. I feel like it is. But it's coming. My second one was, this is my bad one. This is a Juju Smith-Schuster on my Pittsburgh Steelers would be the best scoring wide receiver on Pittsburgh last week. That was super wrong. He had two catches for six yards.
Vaughn into the windup in his first offering.
just a bit outside.
He tried the corner and missed.
The juju thing is fascinating to me.
Yeah, James Washington ended up being the guy
who had the big week.
I don't want to be, here's the thing.
At what point are we going to start hearing
that juju should spend less time on Twitch
and more practicing?
You're already hearing it.
And here's the real question.
Do we believe it?
Are we going to shame him for having a life
and being fun?
No.
When do we do that?
Hell no.
So I am starting to become
pretty confident that
Juju's not going to be
in the Steelers next year.
Yeah.
Oh, that's sad.
It feels like a foregone conclusion at this point.
I still think he can have a good career and everything,
but just the way that they're using him in this offense,
like Deontay seems to be the highest volume guy,
and then Chase Claypool now has emerged as like the big play threat.
And then Washington's competition.
Washington's still around too, man.
Three weeks from now, is he going to have 250 yards
of the last three games that we're going to be talking about
how we should have seen him as like an obvious bilo candidate,
it? Or no, which is not how the offense works right now.
Well, if you look at this, like, their targets, and it doesn't seem that way. It's not like
Juju's just not catching his passes. Like, he's getting, like, the third most targets on the
team behind Claypool and Deontay Johnson, including Red Zone looks. Like, he's just not an essential
part of the offense right now. I think he's going to have a few spike games during the course
of the season, but it's going to be very difficult to predict when that's going to happen.
He's going to be a frustrating person to have on your team just because you don't know, like, when
it's going to come. He's either the first.
He's either the go-to guy in an offense or the fourth guy in this offense.
It's like very hard to.
And Pittsburgh spreads the ball around more than almost any other team.
I saw some stat about like teams that throw to just two of their big ride receivers the most.
And then the bottom of the chart is like the teams that spread it out.
And like at the top was like the Vikings, right?
Because all they throw it is Thielen and Jefferson.
Steelers were dead last because they just, there's no two guys they go to.
They pepper the most.
It's like the Patriots backfield of receivers.
I just, yeah, it's tough.
So that's that.
And then my bold was that Kirk Cousins and Irv Smith would have over 30 fantasy points.
And they did.
They had about...
The garbage time, Kings.
Love it.
They had about 34.
Earth had nine and a half.
Kirk had 23.
Nice.
Good work.
Real quick.
I wanted to ask you, it's just blind resume.
Someone has 23 catches in 194 yards and someone has 13 catches and 119 yards.
Who's who?
In the whole league?
Whole league.
What?
I don't know.
How are I supposed to say it?
First one's juju.
Okay.
Greg Ward.
The second is DeMarcus Robinson for the Chiefs.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying he has like 60 more yards than DeMarcus Robinson.
Yeah, that's...
Anyway.
Sorry, let's move on.
Cousins, Smith, congratulations.
High Fitz. What was yours?
So I said Annie Dalton be a top 10 quarterback,
and I said Jared Gough would be a top 10 quarterback.
Those were both wrong, tough.
The golf one was going to take the L because he sucked and the Niners were better.
The Dalton one was wild because, I mean,
he was.
the QB 22, but first of all, Michael
Gallup, who's dead to me,
dropped a touchdown in the end zone
that would have made Dalton the 11th best
quarterback. And I do want to say, as wrong
as QB22 is, he was a
10-yard, I mean, Michael Gallup just
catches the ball in his hands and he's like the 11th.
So almost. But
I was more amazed. I kind of wanted to ask you guys
about the Cowboys, though, because the Cowboys are in such
a weird place in fantasy.
This season, just the big picture
organization, everything.
But you think about two years ago, this was a
team that had DAC, a great offensive line, and no receivers. And it's like every Cowboys fan
simultaneously wished that they have good receivers. And now they've gotten the exact, now it's like,
be careful what you wish for. Dak has hurt. All five of their offensive linemen will have
turned over if Zach Martin can't play this week. They have undrafted free agents at both tackle spots,
who I believe are bottom 10 and run blocking grade for pro football focus. Zeke Elliott has five
fumbles in six games, which is tied for the most through six games.
50 years.
Not to mention he'd fumbled twice a Monday
and football after he told, like,
Lisa Salters, the Sutherland reporter,
I'm not worried about the fumbling anymore.
Like, there is a psychological collapse,
but the thing that worries me the most
isn't just that Andy Dalton is playing for this team
that we were like, oh, he could keep it going,
but they can't block anymore.
It's a disaster with all these new linemen.
The crazy part is,
what I'm worried about is that,
without getting too cliche-e,
but I'm about to be all cliche-e,
when a moment like the
Dak Prescott thing happens
that was kind of an emotional moment right
like that was a pretty heavy moment
when you got hurt
in those moments you come together
or you come or you get torn apart
like it's I know it's a cliche
but it's true and it's really true
with football teams like teams usually
in those moments come together
they follow it up with this bad loss
and what happens they just start
the Cowboys just start shredding each other
the coaches immediately after that game ends
the floodgates open
and everyone starts blaming themselves
and without
being all like locker room prognosticator, there is something to the fact that like they should
have come closer and clearly like they're unraveling. Do you like they're technically in first place
in this division. I mean, we're recording as Thursday. Maybe the Eagles beat the Giants tonight. We'll see what
happens. But I'm not just out on the Cowboys for like X's and O's reasons now from what I saw with
this line, which I'm really worried about cannot block for Dalton. But I'm like out on them spiritually
as a team. It's not X's and O's. It's Jim's and Joe's.
Just saying, that's my gut call in retrospect.
That's what I feel like I was missing is I didn't realize, oh, they all hate each other.
Yeah, this is like a bird's eye body language doctor view where you're just like,
you know, maybe Dak tearing up his ankle just like sucked the air out of everything.
And they're just like, fuck this.
Like, we're not going to win.
Losing is going to do that regardless.
Like they've, what are they?
Two and four now or what?
I mean, two and four.
And that was, it was an ugly.
loss. But basically, are you guys worried about a mark? Because here's the thing, Cooper, I think,
has like fourth most target. C.D. Lamb's been really good. Would you, like, trade those guys away?
That's what I'm asking. That was such a bad loss. Would you just trade away Cid Land to someone who
thinks he's really good? Like, are you worried? Because my whole thing with this offense was
Dalton, Dalton's a top 10 quarterback this week because it's a good matchup. And I mean,
obviously was spectacularly wrong. And I'm wondering, do you think that's just a blip? Or do you
think that, look, you know what, Andy Dalton, this line is awful? What do we expect of this guy?
I think I'm holding strong and keep hanging on to CD Lamb, hanging on to Marry Cooper. Gallup is a
whole other conversation. But for those two guys in particular, I still think I'm holding on to
those guys because I think that the volume is still going to be there. I think that Andy Dalton
is going to be better than what we saw this last week. I don't think he's as bad as what we saw
this week. I don't think he's like, great. He's clearly not DAC in terms of what he can do
and spread the ball around and all that. But I do think he's better than what we saw this past week.
And I think that it was just a meltdown on all levels and it snowballed on him. And we just didn't
see what they could do. I do think that the combination of them having a bad defense and a lot of
star power on offense is going to create a bunch of shootout type games. And so I still think that
these guys are going to have fantasy, like a lot of fantasy value going forward. And I
I actually think that Dalton's going to do better in the fantasy realm, too, going forward.
You know, it's funny how narratives can change literally because of the ball being one inch farther than or one inch closer.
Because if Andy Dalton would have completed that pass to Michael Gallup,
and if Kyler Murray would have overthrown that ball that he almost overthrew...
Oh, my God.
Such a not good throw.
I don't know if it was bad, but it wasn't good.
If that was six inches too far and Kirk didn't catch...
I mean, the game would be a lot closer, and we may be just thinking completely differently about it.
That is the flip slide to this, is they, the Zeke's two fumble spotted them.
They've fluk, not flukiest, but the shakiest 14-0 lead.
As crazy as it is, as it is, the 38 to 10 game really very easily could have been like 2417 in like mid-4th quarter.
I mean, the Cowboys didn't look good.
The second half, they were literally, like, dead.
But so, okay, I would, if you could get top-tier value for Cidlam, I would do it.
but you guys don't agree.
But this Washington game is very important for me.
If you can get top tier value, if you can get top tier value,
then I'm not going to look down on you for trading him.
I'll put it that way.
But I don't think he's going to completely fall off the map either.
Okay.
I'm a little worried, but we'll see.
Okay, let's keep rolling here.
I will say my bold prediction was that Levian Bell would sign with a future.
I did it last week and I was like,
it's like a future's bet.
It's like I'll get it later.
He'll sign with a future Jets opponent and he will have his season high in
yards and touchdowns against that opponent.
Part one, boom, sign with the Chiefs like a few hours after we recorded.
So that's a win.
They're playing in two weeks.
Okay.
Just saying.
I'm halfway there.
He's going to have, in his first game, he's going to have season high yards and TDs?
Well, it's not as high as it sounds.
It's 60 yards and one touchdown.
But that's what you're saying.
The first game he plays for the Chiefs.
60 yards and a touchdown specifically in the Chief's Jets game.
Oh, got it.
Oh, that makes sense.
All right.
All right. Let's get into stuff for this week.
DK.
Bounce back. Back on the horse. Back on the Colts.
Whatever you're doing.
Bounceback is like the whole theme of my entire like week.
So I'm going to go with, I'm going with Keenan Allen bounce back game.
Obviously last time he played two weeks ago, he, or I guess it was two weeks ago.
He had a back injury so he missed a big chunk of the game.
It sounds like he's on track to play this week.
I really like the matchup with Jacksonville.
I love Herbert.
I mean, Herbert is just one of the biggest stories of this.
this season to me. If it wasn't Herbert,
if he wasn't kind of like a dorky guy on the
Chargers, don't you think it'd be a bigger story
that he's basically like outplaying Burrow?
I mean, not like Burrow was playing poorly, but
I mean, what he's done is pretty goddamn impressive.
If Burrow was doing what Herbert was doing,
everybody would be losing their mind.
I could not agree more. It is, it is
a perfect exposure of how narratives actually work.
Right. Because of exactly what Craig just said.
We, including us, we would be losing, we would be out of our gourds.
We would be leading the show with Joe Burrow.
he had done on the Monday night football thing and barely lost the breeze. We'd be like, oh, wow,
like two legends. Like, absolutely ridiculous. One random, fun note about Justin Herbert went from
the coolest uniforms in college to the coolest uniforms in the pros. You think that's a,
it's a semi-hot take. I think that you think Oregon's uniforms are the best in the, in college.
Is that a hot take? It's Oregon. You feel light. If you're going for aesthetics, where would you
rather go than Oregon? They have brand new jerseys every single week. Look, this is maybe because I live in
Washington and Washington and Oregon are like the
definitely because you live in Washington.
Yeah. But like I feel like I see a lot of people say that
the Oregon uniform changes is
absolutely obnoxious and stupid.
Maybe because you live in Washington like you just said.
Well, it might be obnoxious, but
it's undeniably pretty sick.
I mean, I think they're cool.
Why are we even having this conversation? I don't ask Craig
what he thinks about the Ravens. Like, why are we talking?
Maybe it's because I live in Washington, but fuck Oregon.
I don't even give a shit.
Honestly. I like, hey look.
You're putting words on my mouth.
I like the Oregon uniforms.
I'm just saying, I think it sounded like a little bit of a hot take,
but it's probably colored by where I live.
In terms of jerseys, I think that's the coldest take in the world.
And I thought you were going to say it was a hot take
that I thought the Chargers uniforms are the best in the league.
I didn't know you were going to say Oregon.
Chargers uniforms are dope.
My favorite uniforms in the NFL for the record are the Saints all black.
I think that's the crate, like, black and gold.
I like the Saints all white with the gold.
Really?
Yeah.
I think black and gold is like an unbeatable combo when it's
right. Yeah, I agree.
Wait, so, D.K., I got a question for you.
There's that corner on the jag, Sydney Jones,
who has been really good this year and has kind of come out of nowhere.
Does that worry you at all? Do you know if he's going to be on Keenan Allen?
Yeah, he's been a big surprise in a really bright spot for that defense.
And, you know, it's just like a twist of the night for Eagles fans who have, you know,
kind of had to bear with Cindy Jones when he was with the Eagles.
Really high hopes for him.
What a Super Bowl, bear with. Get the fuck out of here.
I mean, to put it lightly, he was disappointing in his tenure with the, with the eagle.
So it's cool to see him succeeding so much in Jacksonville and having that like bounce back.
But I don't, it's not something I really worry about.
Based on PFFs like tracking, they're not really shadowing opposing receivers much.
Keenan Allen plays in the slot a good amount of the time, moves around the formation.
So it's not a situation that I would really be like afraid to start Keenan Allen.
And I want to throw a few stats at you based.
on weeks two to four. So that three-game stretch when he was healthy, Keenan Allen was healthy,
and when Herbert was the starter, Allen had the top weighted opportunity rating in the NFL among
receivers. So that is, that's a rating at air yards.com. Josh Hermesmeyer does a great job with that.
That tracks, it basically is a combination of air yard share and target share. And what that spits
out is basically a player's opportunity to score fantasy points. And Keenan Allen was number one
in the NFL in that stretch. So chasing the bounce back with Keenan Allen, the potential for him
to have a huge amount of the target share in this game to put numbers to that. He had 39% target share,
which is absolutely absurd in those four games, or in those three games. And Jacksonville's
defense just hasn't been very good. The whole team, I guess, is like spiraling, it feels like,
over the last few weeks. Are we all? Yeah. I mean, I don't blame them. You know, it's a stressful time
in the world, but 17 half PPR points is my benchmark for Keenan Allen.
17 and a half?
17 half PPR points.
Here's what I'm thinking about.
Keenan Allen is pretty underrated, right?
I feel like every year he's awesome.
No one talks about him as like the top seven wide receiver.
I think, and I'm just thinking about this now, shoot it down if it's stupid.
Are all receivers who play on the West Coast underrated?
I have to give this interesting.
Every Seahawks wide receiver has been underrated.
Every receiver on the Rams, Robert Wood, always underrated.
Now we got, Keenan Allen's always been underrated.
Is it because these guys always play at 125 in East Coast that's like,
as people are like going to dinner and nobody watches them play?
What's going on?
I mean...
Greg, you say a lot of dumb stuff.
I have to say, this is maybe the smartest thing you've ever said.
I actually think you're exactly right.
That's crazy.
The only thing I would...
I actually think this is a very good theory.
The only thing I would throw out to you is that Jerry Rice is the greatest receiver of all time.
Maybe it's his fault.
Entire career on the West Coast.
Maybe it's like a Jordan thing.
Yeah, but I mean, when you're far and away the best wide receiver ever, maybe that is good enough to get people at ease course to watch.
But that's just my working career.
I like this theory.
We should dig into this next week and try and like feel this out and see if we can like,
actually come to a good, like with some data. I like this, though. Yeah, please email us at
Ringer Fantasy Football at Gmail if you have any thoughts on this. The one problem I'm going to
point out to you in advance is we have to define West Coast because southwest, Arizona is Larry Fitz
and D. Andre Hopkins. But if we just go with the coast, then... No, Hopkins just got it. Hopkins doesn't
count. Yeah. I'm actually amazed by this. Okay. I like this theory, though. It's a good one.
Okay. Craig, do you have a gut off of that?
Yeah, so I'll keep it quick.
Matt Ryan, top four quarterback this week against Detroit.
Matt Ryan's weekly finishes when Julio Jones has played this year has been the QB5, QB6, and QB1.
I think the Falcons are an average team that are playing like a terrible team.
And like we talked about earlier this week, they are a different team with Julio Jones.
They're playing the Lions.
Aren't great towards quarterbacks.
They give up the 11th most points.
Matt Ryan is second in the NFL in passing yards.
I don't know.
Hell yeah.
I like this a lot.
I like this a lot.
The splits with Julio and without
Julio are like absurd.
He's like the 20,
like the QB 24 and 25 or something
when Julio was out.
It's like the before and after commercials.
Right.
Remember the Tony Romo's like
and I have cable.
Like that's the Matt Rob.
Oh yeah, yeah.
And I don't have Julio Jones.
Well,
wasn't that Rob Lo?
Not Tony Romo.
I think there was a bunch of celebrities
who did that.
Yeah, there were several that they did that with.
But yeah,
so the Falcons have the second most
passing yards,
but they only have the 13th most points.
I think they might kind of
meet in the middle. I think the Falcons are going to win their next three games. I think they're
going to be four and five by week 10. And I like Matt Ryan this week. Top four quarterback.
So I like what you said. I'm mad because I basically had very similar thoughts. My bold for the
week is Matt Ryan and Matt Stafford are both top 12 quarterbacks and Kenny Galladay is also a top
10 wide receiver. And I basically just for everything you said about Matt Ryan, I mean, you could
have picked any combination of people. Basically, I just think this is a shootout. It's the highest over
under the week. I think it's second highest, actually.
But it's like 56.
I think the game goes over.
And I just think that it's going to be,
the Falcons aren't going to be as bad as they've been.
I think that Rahe Morris is genuinely better coach than Dan Quinn.
I also think, as you said, like,
I mean,
you said all those Julio numbers.
They're real.
And also you can just kind of see it.
Like,
he makes the offense better.
Matt Ryan's clearly more comfortable when Julio's in the game.
And also the Lions' offense is going to play better this week, too.
Morris is a better coach than Quinn.
Not good enough because the Falcons are still giving up the most freaking yards in the league by a lot.
I mean,
they can get a lot better and also still suck.
So I think that the Lions Falcons game is just a shootout.
And if you're on the fence about playing anyone in Detroit, anyone in Atlanta, I would lean yes in basically every direction.
Because I think that's going to be really big game.
There's always a few games.
There's always a few teams that seem like they're in the same division to me.
And the Lions and Falcons have always seemed like they should be in the same division.
Whenever I see that, I'm like, that's a division game, right?
They're like weirdly similar teams too because they both like have a quarterback named Matt that's been around for like about a decade.
They're both kind of gun slingers.
Yeah.
it's like much better than they've
Unappreciated kind of
underappreciated
Not really achieved too much
The fan base likes them a lot
On a team that they are really
Like the team is super disappointing
The quarterback's not the problem
And they're both just kind of irrelevant
But they're gonna end up like top eight
And passing yards all time
Exactly
And it's just kind of like what do we do with these guys
Yeah
Also just peak men
Both of them
I know seven other people named Matt
Who look exactly like them
High Fitz I heard the New York
coming out in that
What do we do with these guys?
With these guys?
You can see his shoulders bouncing up and down.
Hey.
Well, I think it's because I don't go out anymore.
I don't talk to anyone that it doesn't come out.
Oh, it's out right now.
Oh, it's out right now.
It's the backwards hat.
It's the backwards hat.
It's the backwards hat.
He's like slouching a little bit more than normal.
You're like Christopher Moltosanti now.
You're like, hey.
Oh, Maltosanti?
Don't compare me at Christopher.
I'm a mat.
No, it's okay.
All right.
All right, D.K., you are up with a gut because we just got high if it's as bold.
All right.
So sticking with my bounceback theme this week, Tyler Lockett gets back on track this week.
If you look at what he did over the first three weeks, eight catches 92 yards, seven catches,
67 yards on the touchdown.
And then in week three, nine catches, 100 yards, three scores.
And then he has completely fallen off the map the last two weeks, two catches for 39 yards in week four, four catches for 44 yards in week five.
Seahawks coming off their by.
I think Arizona, and this is going to be in prime time, so there should be a lot of fun.
if you're Arizona, let me ask you this.
If you're Arizona, who is it that you're trying to take away on the Seahawks offense?
Metcalfe.
Yeah.
Russell Wilson.
Well, obviously.
Get rid of them.
You know what I mean.
If it's your correct, I think that they're going to tilt everything to Metcalf.
Metcalf is by far the most dangerous player on their team, potentially one of the most
dangerous receivers in the game at this point.
And so I think that's going to leave Lockett in a lot of situations where he can sneak
behind the defense, do what he does out of the slot.
I think he's so dangerous because of that.
Dangerous?
Nice.
Yeah, dangerous.
And so, yeah, this is like purely gut.
There's not actually like any stats that would probably back this up.
But I just feel like Lockett's going to have a big comeback game this week.
So what's your number?
It is going to be 80 yards in a touchdown.
You left out the most important guy that entire Lockett's a UWCG.
He didn't go to shitty Oregon.
It was an underrated West Coast guy.
I literally was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
It was the first time that's ever been said, yeah.
He went to K-State.
It's real.
Yeah, yeah.
So this is actually very true.
Like, Lockett is one of the most underrated receivers in the game.
So looking at weeks one through three, he had a 30% target share.
And then weeks four and five, 14%.
So I think it's going to go back up.
I think they're going to try and take away Metcalf.
I like it.
Craig, you got another gut?
Yeah.
Drew Breeze and Jared Cook
are going to combine
for over 30 fantasy points
this week against Carolina.
Oh,
you're just going back to the quarterback
tight end well?
I love this.
I love this.
This is great.
So the Saints are getting healthy.
Michael Thomas hasn't punched anyone yet.
It seems like he's going to play this week.
Jared Cook is a hamstring pole,
so he might not.
Michael Thomas might not play this week.
Yeah,
that's the thing to keep in mind.
That would actually help you.
Yeah.
Right.
Jared Cook after the by week,
back after missing a game or two
with an ankle injury.
So they're playing Carolina.
who has the worst pressure rate in the league.
And that always makes me feel good
against these old quarterbacks like Breeze.
They rank last in sacks
in 27th and quarterback hits.
They're super hurt on the defensive line.
I think the spread in this game is seven and a half.
I think the Saints are going to win this game handedly.
And Jared Cook has been really good against Carolina.
Last year, he had 1443 yards and two touchdowns
against them in his two games.
And he's really consistent.
He said 50 yards in a touchdown in 14 of his last 50.
games. I like Jared Cook a lot this week.
I honestly like a lot of Saints. I think Kamar's
going to be going insane. But Breeze
and Cook over 30 fantasy points.
I'm such a sucker for when you say, when you mention pressure
rates.
Here's another one. If Michael Thomas doesn't play,
who are you going for?
Trequant Smith?
I think he's an interesting sleeper if Michael Thomas
doesn't play. Him or Sanders.
So you're not worried about Breeze.
I think the buy helps.
Yeah.
All right.
Mine, another gut for me.
I guess I haven't even done a gut, have I?
Because I just did the bowl first because you ruined mine.
I think Kareem Hunt is a huge day.
Kreme Hunt sucked last.
So there's recency bias, right?
Where it's like a guy hasn't done so well.
So you're like, does he suck?
I think there's also saying we forget called decency bias,
which is when a team is bad very recently.
Because it's not just you think things that recently happened will keep happening.
But you think if people are bad, you don't want to be like,
oh, yeah, they'll be good.
But they went from playing the Steelers to the best.
Bengals. The Steelers have, if not the best defense in the NFL, one of the best. Their run defenses
by any metric top tier. And also, Baker Mayfield was awful in that game. And we're not defending
Baker here. We kind of are wondering if Baker sucks openly allowed. Craig doesn't kind of. Craig is a
no kind of kind of person here. He's staunchly anti-Baker. Baker's awful. Seth Galeena had a great
Twitter thread this week that just kind of said that Baker's first quarter. I mean, Seth Gleon is a
quarterback's coach who does film review for living. He's great, by the way. He basically was like
Baker Mayfield's first quarter was actually one of the worst I've ever seen.
And then you watch the video.
Also, Baker's throwing motion looks like Tim Tebow.
Like, he's the longest arm motion.
Oh, well, that's, that's fight words.
But no, it just, he's not, he's not seeing what's in front of him for whatever reason.
And I think that, honestly, I think that there's Mark Sanchez vibes in that he can't not see the rush.
Like, he can't, he just, when the second there's pressure, he's seeing, like, Sam Darnold was like the seeing ghost quote last year Monday in football.
Baker Mayfield's the guy seeing ghosts.
he just sees pressure all around him even when it's not there and it really messes him up.
But here's the point.
The Steelers have the best pressure rate in football, but the Bengals have among the worst.
Like the Steelers are top two.
The Bengals are bottom two.
So you're getting the swing.
You're getting this massive swing.
And so how often is someone look bad in the NFL one week, look really good the next?
And you're like, what happened?
This week, what's happening is they're going from the best defense to the worst.
And the Bengals probably have worse.
Their numbers are like the 23 in run defense.
and then 31st or 32nd in pressure rate.
They're actually worse than that
because they've lost DJ Reeder,
who I think was their second best run defender,
and they lost Sam Hubbard, who's on IR,
who's their fourth best run defender.
So they're actually worse than those numbers.
And then the Browns have actually their third
in run block grades on Pro Football Focus.
So I think that this is kind of a classic pendulum game.
And if that sounds nuts,
in week one, the Brown's lost to the Ravens,
like 38 to 6, and then beat the Bengals,
3530.
And then they just lost to the Steelers,
38 to 7, like the same game script almost.
And now they're playing the Bengals again.
So who knows?
So I think he has a big day.
And I wouldn't be terrified to start Odell.
Well, Jarvis is whatever.
But even if you're worried about Odell after that game last week,
I would be much more confident in the Browns this week.
How could you be worried about Odell when he's immune to COVID?
His body just won't.
He's also immune to being a productive fantasy player.
Oh.
Hey, yo.
What's, uh...
After Odell's off season, you should be careful of what he talks about entering his body.
That's all I'm going to say.
Oh, yeah.
But Kareem Hunt top five running back this week.
That was good.
Finally, somebody said it on this podcast.
He finally said it.
God damn it.
All right.
D.K.
We're going to dance around this.
We're not going to actually say anything specific.
You can Google it if you want.
Yeah, Google it.
Probably don't.
DK, bold prediction.
Out of you.
I'm going to the other side of the ball in this Cleveland
Cincy game.
So Justin Jefferson's had his big blow-up game.
C.D. Lamb has had his big blow-up game.
I'm calling the T. Higgins blow-up game,
although he already has a game with two touchdowns.
I think this is going to be the put-em-on-the-map game for Higgins
because he's been very good.
He's been as good as some of these other big-name receivers
that have gotten a lot more publicity.
Jefferson and Lamb?
Jefferson, Lamb.
That's a statement.
Well, let me rephrase that because I don't think he's not as good of a player.
I think he's as interesting as a fantasy asset.
Let me put that way.
Still a statement, though.
Yeah, because listen, the Bengals are, they like throw the ball more than any team in the NFL almost.
Actually, I don't have it in front of me.
Do they throw the ball the most of any team in the NFL?
Wouldn't surprise me.
I believe he's second in attempts.
There you go.
Borough, yeah, Borough, they're always playing from behind.
They're throwing the ball a ton.
No, he does leave the league in attempts.
I'm sorry.
Nice.
He's number one.
So there's a ton of volume in there in that offense.
Now, Higgins is not the number one.
Technically, I think Boyd is probably like the go-to guy in that offense.
But I think Higgins is close to like being Burroughs favorite target at this point.
He's really good deep down the field.
He's good for like one big play down the field every game.
But he's also being used kind of over the middle and all these things.
He's averaged eight targets a game.
the last four games. He has like the size and jumping ability and contested catchability
to be a big time threat in the red zone. I just like Higgins a lot. I'm going with 20 plus
half ppr points this week. Wow. And kind of like not really measurable, but put him on the map type
game. This is your gut, not a bold? This is my bold. Oh, okay. I was going to say 20 points.
So, D.K., if you want to get, I mean, we were just talking about C.D. Lamb and the whole Cowboys
offense. And if you want to grab a player who's just about to ascend and maybe
a player who might be descending, would you potentially just trade straight up?
CD-Land for T. Higgins.
Ooh, that's an interesting question.
Well, no, not straight up because I think the whole point of trading away C.D.
Lam is you're trying to get better values.
So it's like if you're trading for someone who has like T. Higgins on their team and then
you're trying to get a running back and you're like, oh, by the way, throw in T. Higgins.
No, I'm saying if you're like, if you want to grab a receiver who's going to score more
points the rest of the way, then C.D. Lam. T. Higgins might be an easy way to do that.
Yes. But to be clear, don't trade him straight up. Get better than that.
I don't think I would do it.
The question Craig asked me is like...
I'm basically saying who would you rank higher rest of the season.
Yeah, rest of the season.
Wow, now that you say this, I'm thinking about it.
The fact that I'm even thinking about it, it does say a lot.
Like last week, it took the Cowboys a really long time to get C.D.
Lam involved in the game I was bitching about it on Twitter.
Like, why don't you pass it to CD every freaking time?
Because every time he touches the ball, something good happens.
It's like the opposite of Michael Gallup.
Yeah.
But I do think just generally speaking, I'm still a little bit higher on CD, but I do think there's a conversation to be had that Higgins could have a better second-out season just because he's going to have a lot of volume.
They're always going to be playing from behind.
I think Burrow is a better quarterback probably than Dalton at this point.
So the Bengals thought that too.
That's not like a hot take.
Just throwing it out.
No, but that is the essence of it, isn't it?
Like, Bengals and Cowboys probably have equally bad offensive lines.
Honestly, Dallas might be worse at this point, which is crazy to think.
But, like, at some point, aren't you kind of betting on the offense, which obviously two weeks ago, that was Dallas.
But going forward, my God, Joe Burrow leads the league and Pat, like, is that the move?
I actually think I've talked myself into this.
I love T. Higgins.
Hopefully Joe Burrow does too.
Okay, Craig.
Did you do your bold?
I can't keep track for anything anymore.
My bold is that George Kittle will not be a top seven tight end this week against New England.
So, as I just stated, the 49.
are traveling to Foxborough, where it is going to be 50 degrees and dropping as they play
Bill Belichick, the former coach of quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo in the chilly Foxborough air.
So not only do the Pats give up the six fewest points to quarterbacks, they give up the fifth
fewest points to tight ends. And we all know what the Patriots do the best is they take away the team's
best option. A couple weeks ago when they were playing the Raiders after Darren Waller had that huge game,
Darren Waller was clearly the best receiving option on the Raiders. And what happened in that game,
Waller had two catches for nine yards. On average, the Patriots are giving up four points a game
to the starting tight end of the opposing team. Holy shit. I think the Patriots are going to win this
game. And I think Bill Belichick is going to scheme the shit out of Jimmy G. and George Kittle.
If Kittle is a no-go in this game, do you think, would you go with Devo and Iuke? Would you feel
confident starting those two guys? I think I'm, I think this is a big fade Niners week for me. I know
they looked great against the Rams, but...
I think this is really smart,
and I also think of Jimmy sucks.
We're going to find out this week.
Yeah.
I think that that's...
That's why they need to trade Sam Darnold to the 49ers.
I went on the NFL show the other day,
and that was my...
What would you give up for Darnold?
I think you could get him for a second rounder,
can't you at this point?
And then the Jets just tank and get Trevor Lawrence.
Yeah.
All right.
I have to pick a bone.
I hate the thing of like,
oh, yeah, they'll just get this player.
in like week seven, it drives me up a wall.
Because as a person who's rooted for the Giants last three years,
let me tell you how one stupid win can knock you back
four places in the draft.
Like the Jets can win.
Like there's,
how many teams have one win right now?
There's six.
The Jets can win three stupid games and get like the sixth pick.
And I just hate the thing.
Oh, look,
Trevor Lawrence.
I mean,
it's not like,
I mean,
look,
there's Justin Fields.
There's this kid from,
you know,
where,
what is the other top prospect in the,
who played one game this season?
I can't remember his name, D.K.
North Dakota State guy?
Yeah.
Who's played one game this season?
That guy who will probably also go top ten.
But it's like, you can't just automatically assume the Jets are getting Trevor Lawrence.
I hate this thing.
Trey Lance, Danny.
Trey Lance, yeah, the immortal Trey Lance.
That's not going to work out.
I'm just saying that the idea that you can just leap to, oh, look at Trevor Lawrence.
Guess what?
If the Jaguars get the first pick, you're not getting Trevor Lawrence.
That's all I'm saying.
Anyway.
All right.
Sorry, it just grinds my gears.
Craig has already written off
Tray Lance because of his name.
You're never going to see
Trey Lance's name in the Hall of Fame.
Hi Vick.
Your gut, your last gut.
Oh, yeah, my last gut.
Oh, I think Terry McLaurin has a huge game.
Terry McLaurin, I think, is going to do
100 yards in a touchdown.
I know that sounds not so bold.
No, that's pretty bold.
I mean, that's a gut call.
That's pretty bold gut.
I think it's 100 yards in a touchdown
specifically because if you're grading
on a curve, because his quarterback's been
Kyle out.
Dwayne Askins, Alex Smith.
He's been really good.
He had seven catches, like 74 yards last week.
About that one was a little Newark right there against James Bradbury.
I love it.
Keep it going.
Oh, my God.
But the point is McLaurin's been really good.
He's also fifth in targets in the NFL.
He's seven every game so far.
And the Cowboys secondary is awful.
And they're confused.
They're slow.
They're apparently annoyed at their coaches.
McLorin's really fast.
And they get him the ball a lot.
And I'm just kind of taking the odds against what has proven to be one of the worst
defenses in the NFL and seem to be one of the most disheartened.
So I just think that this is going to be a huge game for him.
I like it.
To your point, High Fitz, you know, to go back to the Whopper,
the weighted opportunity rating that I brought up earlier,
Terry McLaren is fifth in the NFL at receiver right now through six weeks.
He's getting tons and tons of volume.
It's just the quarterbacks have been terrible.
He also, I was looking this up.
So apologies, if you already mentioned this.
He's also gone up against really good corners throughout the season.
And he gets that lightened up a little bit.
There's a lot of, there's a lot to like,
talk about, I mean, trade candidates.
Terry McLoran is right there because his schedule gets way easier.
The front, as you just said, the first seven,
the first six games pretty hard.
All, if you want, yeah, if you want a guy who the underlying number suggests
is about to explode, Terry McLaurin, speaking of which, do you guys like,
he's, there's two nicknames.
There's F1.
Yeah.
And then Matthew Berry is insisting on calling him Terry McScoran.
No.
Wasn't Scary Terry one of them, too?
Oh, yeah, and Scary Terry.
I don't really like any of them, to be totally honest.
All right, well, we can come up with a better one.
The reason none of them was stuck is because none of them are good, in my opinion.
Well, maybe just Washington's bad.
No one wants to talk about anything Washington right now.
Okay, so we got the list.
Are we drafting these right now?
The ones we like the best?
Let's each pick one.
We each get one pick.
My favorite is that George Kittle will not be a top seven tight end.
Although my real favorite is that Craig saying that all.
all the West Coast receivers are underrated
is really good.
Locket,
Nettcalf,
Bobby Trees,
Keenan Allen.
It's a really good one.
I'm jealous of that.
I think I'm going to go
with the Terry McLauran one
because that was one
that I had thought about putting two,
Danny.
But I already did a McLaren
prediction earlier the season
and it didn't work out for me.
So,
but I'm going with that one again.
Mr. Stelio,
take I am.
I like the,
I like the,
I like the tell I locket one.
I just love Seattle this year.
Locket in with Locket.
That's my worst segue I've ever done.
All right,
time for the million.
lineup. We are doing a million dollar lineup on Fandil. Winner gets a million bucks.
Did we win a million last week? We, I actually didn't even get to enter the thing. I messed up
because it actually filled up. Again. Yeah, it filled up. So I actually, every week. I, so I,
I am the person who owes you guys money this week. We're not blaming the player. We're blaming me.
The best ability. The best ability is availability. I did not make our lineup available.
So I really felt good about last week, too. We had a great team. So I pushed the lineup on
you two this week. And this week, what I pushed was we're trying to stack the Lions Falcons game
because I believe in it. So we're wrong with quarterback. We got Stafford and Ghaladay in that game.
And then we also got Calvin Ridley receiver and we're doing Hayden Hurst at tight end because I'm not
giving up on Hayden Hurst. And then we put in Kareem Hunt a running back. Clyde Ed was a Laird running
back, Kareem because he's just, he's going to have a big day and he's not very expensive.
And Levion's not playing yet. We don't think. I don't think so. And then Clyde is just, you know what,
how many times can you get touchdowns called back?
We'll see.
We've got Terry McLoran in, Terry McScoran or whatever.
And then Bill's defense, because they're playing the Jets, lull.
And then, D.K., tell us about our flex, our lottery ticket play.
This kind of goes a little bit against my earlier prediction, but David Moore from the Seahawks,
who is their third receiver.
No, it doesn't go against it.
I mean, Russ throws for like 350 yards every game.
It's a hedge.
Good point.
Good point.
He's going to throw for four touchdowns.
So one of them is going to go to David Moore.
Maybe two.
We'll see.
He's their specialist.
He's the third receiver in that group,
kind of like the big play down the field,
go up and get it kind of guy.
He also gets used on screenplays quite a bit.
But I've been like the David Moore stand of Seahawks Twitter
for the last like three years,
and it's fun to see him finally kind of starting to emerge a little bit.
He's definitely a role player,
but he has these spike weeks every once in a while
that makes him interesting and he's cheap this week.
So David Moore against the Cardinals.
Sunday night football.
CX got moved to Sunday night, by the way.
They did, which is great.
It's amazing.
All right, let's do fantasy court and we get out of here.
Yeah.
All right.
It's from Mark.
Mark.
Hey, Danny, Danny, and Craig.
I've got a unique situation for you that requires an unbiased third party to rule on the decision.
I'm the commissioner of a keeper league with my college buddies and we have a waiver stealing rule.
If you bid the same amount as another manager for a waiver pickup, we rule it a tie,
regardless of waiver priority, whoever of the fantasy set a way.
the player to.
The first manager to post a video
drinking a full beer
gets the player.
This is fucking awesome.
This is really great.
And it says post-college,
this has turned into
whoever can sneak away from work
for a mid-morning lunch beer wins.
Anyway, this week,
someone chugged a hard seltzer
to steal the bill's defense,
which caused an uproar in the league group's chat
since it is decidedly not a beer.
Some are arguing that a seltzer
maintains the spirit of the rule
and others are not having it
and don't want the steal to be upheld.
what should we do and who's going to walk away with the bill's defense?
Okay, so we have not talked about this.
I do have a thought.
Do you guys have a hard, like a staunch opinion?
I have many thoughts.
I've thought through both.
I know what I think hit me.
I think it doesn't count.
It needs to be a beer.
Why?
They're different drinks.
I mean, if you were going to do a chugging contest against somebody and someone's like,
oh, you obviously don't mind if I chug against you with a seltzer, right?
I'd be like, no, they're completely different.
It's like a soda in an orange juice.
They're different.
D.K., what do you think?
My question here, and this is getting, like, really technical?
Like, could you do a vodka water? Is that fine, too?
The winner isn't the person that drinks the beer the fastest, right?
It's the first person to post a video of them drinking a beer.
Yes, correct.
So it's, to me, it's not like, it doesn't, I don't think it actually really matters, to be honest, if it's a beer or as long as it's an alcoholic beverage.
The spirit is you're drinking during the day, you know, at work, it's funny.
like you're sneaking away from work to drink alcohol.
It's not like how fast you chug a beer
because if it was how fast you chug a beer,
that's a different thing because beer and seltzer are different.
It's like harder to chug a beer maybe or whatever.
But if it's beer, isn't part of the whole thing
is like this guy at his job's fridge or whatever?
Maybe there was only a white claw in there
and then he did that instead.
Is that fair?
That's the thing.
I agree, but here's the thing.
There are two ways to look at this.
The letter of the law,
spirit of the rule. Letter of the law, did he post the video of himself drinking a beer? No,
fails the letter of the law. But we all agree that the goal here is to go with the spirit of the
rule. So the question is, is a hard seltzer a beer spiritually? And which I sent on behalf of the
court, I followed up with this guy. And on behalf of the court, I requested more documents.
And I asked him three questions. What was the brand of hard selzer? We got all the evidence.
What was the brand of hard seltzer? And then I asked, do your league mates drink,
this brand of hard seltzer at times when beer is available.
And Mark responded that the seltzer in question was White Claw
and that they used seltors interchangeably with beer for the most part,
bringing a six-pack to a party playing drink games.
And the fact that it is individually canned is definitely a point in favor of the ruling.
Our group has spirited debates on the flavors and brands of seltzers,
and I'd say White Claw is the preferred brand for us.
And here is my thought on the court.
If they talk about seltzer enough that they have a preferred brand and drink it
In lieu of beer, often, it spiritually is a replacement for the beer.
That guy gets the, that guy gets the thing and then write your goddamn rules more specific.
But I rule, no, that has to count because their group has, we're interpreting their group's rules,
and they have already ruled Seltzer interchangeable with beer.
I'm just going to say, like, if this guy had gone and, like, chugged a Zima on his lunch break
and sent it in, like, to me, that's hilarious and it should count.
Here's the funny part, though.
this is all hypothetical.
Here's the best part
is we're actually throwing the case out
on a technicality
because the fact that the other guy,
this is from Mark,
he has not posted a rebuttal,
the other guy in the room,
has not posted a rebuttal chugging a beer,
which is truly a head scratcher
and would make the ruling harder.
The other guy hasn't posted a video at all.
So the guy doesn't get the guy.
He didn't even show up to court.
Yeah.
He didn't show up to court.
You automatically, yeah, so you lose.
He skipped a court date.
Throw it out.
See, it doesn't matter.
This is, so now,
it's an opportunity for you guys to figure out of
Seltzer is make a rule. But yeah.
Here's what I would do. If I was the only
judge in this situation, I would say
the other guy has to come up
with a funnier thing to drink and chug it
and then he could win.
All right. Well, bring in the dancing lobsters.
Case dismissed. Fantasy court is out of session.
Thank you to Mark for that email.
Ring your Fantasy Football at gmail.com.
If you want to send us fantasy court cases, thank you,
D.K. Thank you, Craig. And
thank you to everyone for listening. Best of luck this weekend.
We will see you on Monday.
