The Ringer NFL Show - Week 7 Bold Predictions, Million-Dollar Lineup, and Fantasy Court

Episode Date: October 23, 2020

We look back on our Week 6 predictions and offer up our gut calls and bold predictions for Week 7, build our million-dollar daily fantasy lineup, and finish the show with a rousing edition of Fantasy ...Court. Keenan Allen (21:52) Matt Ryan (28:07) Lions vs. Falcons (29:17) Tyler Lockett (31:31) Drew Brees and Jared Cook (33:27) Kareem Hunt (35:05) Tee Higgins (38:26) George Kittle (42:03)) Terry McLaurin (44:49) Million-Dollar Lineup (47:38) Fantasy Court (49:40) Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today's episode, we talk about why Tyler Lockett is going to have a big week, why George Kittle is not, and how all the West Coast wide receivers are underrated every single one. We also run through our million dollar lineup, which I forgot to enter last week, and we make a fantasy court ruling on whether a white claw is a beer. Stick around. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy football show. I am Danny Hyfitts here with Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck. DK. How you doing, man? I'm doing well. How are you?
Starting point is 00:00:41 I'm fantastic. Craig, what's up? Hi Fitz, you're in a backwards hat. I am in a backwards hat. It's October. It's not spring break. Take the hat off. Flip it around.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Don't give me that. Time is irrelevant now. Time does ceases to exist. Why do you have the hat on? Why not? Bad hair day? Yeah. No, that actually is what happened.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Oh, really? Yeah, now you just hair shamed me. How do you feel? My hair looks like I got electrocuted it. And it's just the three of us on the Zoom. What is it? The kid from the Incredibles. That's always like kind of what.
Starting point is 00:01:13 I think about your hair. Syndrome. Oh, syndrome. That's your hair. I thought you were going to say Dash. And I was like, that's cool. No, no, no, not Dash. Not the cool one. No.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Actually, you know what kind of looks like Dash? DK. Calvin Kelly kind of looks like Dash. Oh yeah, that like hardcore blonde. If Dash were a fullback, that would be your son, D.K. I wish I knew what you guys were talking about, but I don't know. I have never seen The Incredibles. What?
Starting point is 00:01:39 Really? Yeah. Okay. All right. That's insane. And this is, we're going to do a. poll. We're going to do a poll on today's episode. You've got to swipe down if you're lucky it'll be there. The poll is going to be this. What is more embarrassing? That D.K. hasn't seen the
Starting point is 00:01:51 Incredibles. That Danny Hyfitz hasn't seen wedding crashes. And what should be the third one? Your hair looks like syndrome from the Incredibles. No, it should be a DK doesn't know a Drake song. Wait, you have to be involved too, Craig. This can't just be two of my embarrassing moments. I don't have anything embarrassing about me. We'll settle this all fair, but there will definitely be a We'll definitely have a poll. We'll figure out what the options are, but please vote in that poll. If you're on Spotify, it's on the actual episode page you're on right now. Please vote.
Starting point is 00:02:22 We're not going to send you a laptop or anything if you vote, but we will ask very nicely. Please vote in the poll. Guys, we have some fun news here. One of the most fun players in the NFL might be back. Des Bryant is potentially signing to the Ravens Practice Squad. It's kind of deflating when you actually read what happened because it's like, oh, he's on the practice squad. So, okay.
Starting point is 00:02:42 But he was tweeting. about the Cowboys on Monday Night Football, just like a really exuberant fan like three days ago. So it's kind of funny that he's on an NFL team again. But I mean, there's no fantasy value here whatsoever. Is there, D.K.? He's the same age as Julio Jones. Isn't he really?
Starting point is 00:02:59 He hasn't played since 2017. Just saying he's the same age as Julio Jones. That's wild. Because he feels like he's been out of the league. I feel like he was trying to catch on with the Saints and got hurt like two years ago. He's a year younger than AJ Green. I do think it is fascinating.
Starting point is 00:03:13 though, like, is he coming in? And I guess they're probably signing him to the practice squad because then it gives him a ramp up period before, you know, to go through all the COVID protocols, first of all, and then to get ramped up to the offense. And then maybe they'll call him up to the majors, so to speak. But I just, I do think it is fascinating that the timing of all this. Like, they obviously have a reason for doing this. Maybe it's because Miles Boykin hasn't been as good as they thought he'd be the second
Starting point is 00:03:40 around pick from a couple years ago or what, but he's definitely, in my mind, he's not going to come in and be the number one on that offense. Like, Markey's Brown is the clear number one. Mark Andrews is the clear one B or two, I guess it doesn't do enough. The offense just doesn't have enough
Starting point is 00:03:56 volume to go around. Des would be like the type of guy who have like one or two catches the game. He'd like catch one 30 yard pass a game. Kind of like what Josh Gordon used to do on the C-Hawks. He's going to be exactly what Mike Evans is this year. He's like the goal line fade guy and that's it. you could convince me that the Ravens trading for Janick and Gokwe
Starting point is 00:04:15 will affect the Ravens defense and special teams fantasy-wise more than Des Bryant will ever affect your team for the rest of his life combined. So I don't think this is that big of a deal. But good for him. I like this. Let's go through last week's gut-gut bold, how everyone did. Do we have to? Is that what's our finest?
Starting point is 00:04:34 I want to you. I hit my bold. Y'all made fun of me. Oh, yeah, wait. Where was your bold? Did we? I don't think we made fun of you. I got the, people made fun of me about Irv Smith.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Well, who's people? What are you? Like, many people are saying right now? Yeah. Many people are saying I was made fun of and mocked. There are conversations going on about my, my Irv Smith prediction. But it paid off. He had nine and a half.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Everyone was like, oh, he's not going to, everybody was like he's not going to have 10 fantasy points. He had nine and a half. We did a poll and 10,000 people voted only yes, like make fun of Craig for the Irv Smith pick. That was the entirety of the poll. Let's get into your guys' guts. I'm going to run through mine real quick. my gut my first gut was david montgomery 20 half pvr points wrong 11.7 he did i will say have the opportunity like there was a he got a ton of volume got a ton of hair he had a touchdown called back
Starting point is 00:05:21 also he had a touchdown called back that was just like a hair away for being a touchdown so right um he was he was closer than it sounds he had 11.7 points so not you know that was definitely a miss on my part but and hang on to montgomery like i still think he's like a proper by low if he was two inches forward on that one run, he would have had like 18 fantasy points and we would have been like, wow, David Montgomery's a thing now. So stick around. Pretty solid. This is, I think, and this is honestly going to make, we talked about the narrative around David Montgomery, Craig, like how Twitter hates him. This game made Twitter hate him even more. Like, people are out on Montgomery. I admit I'm wavering a little bit after this because he did. He was going up against the worst run
Starting point is 00:06:00 defense in the NFL and he had the opportunity, he had the volume to do everything. He just didn't really do anything with it. It's just hard not to be behind the guy who's literally getting more snaps than any other running back in the league. You know who close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades? Yeah. I feel like we really should, we talk about this every year. We should really do the fantasy league where close counts. I agree. Because David Montgomery would be so good. Like, you just get the ball the one, you automatically get the touchdown whether you got it or not. I was going to look up if there was a website or some metric somewhere that anyone did that kept track of how many times somebody got tackled on the one. It's just goal line carries. That's a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:06:35 downs. They haven't gone. It's like a molligan. We call the Calvin Johnson metric. Yeah, it's like in golf how you have like a gimmie. You just you don't even have to tap it in. Like that counts. Every three, you stopped at the ones, you get six points. Yeah, but some people give the gimmies from like
Starting point is 00:06:51 the equivalent of like seven, like the seven yards from the goal line. Give me culture's out of control, to be honest. People talk about cancel culture. Gimmie culture, ridiculous. Come on. People take putz, man. Anyway, how did the rest of your picks go, Dek? My second gut was the worst.
Starting point is 00:07:06 It was, well, actually, the last two were the worst. Lyska-Chanal, over 100 scrimmon yards was my gut prediction. And he just had a dud. He was just, he had four touches, 11 yards. Part of my prediction, I will say, was that DJ Chark was not going to play. He ended up being a late addition to the game. He kind of, he like gutted out this ankle injury that he had and came in. Yeah, and he gutted out 13 targets.
Starting point is 00:07:30 He guted out your gut call. That really, number one. one that really fucked with my prediction. But also, Chanel just, he couldn't get on the same page with, with Minshu. And so that was just a really, it's just a big miss on my part. I do think Chanel will bounce back and he'll, he'll end up having, you know, some more good games this year. But just a bad, bad week for that. And then my bold call and based on reactions on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:07:55 I was not the only person that was banking on a Mikul Hardman big game. He had, my, my prediction was 80 yards and a touchdown. He had one target and zero catches. The Hardman thing is just not happening at this point. I agree. Yeah, we got to talk about Hardman briefly here. Yeah. He was kind of touted when they drafted him as the next Tyree Kill. He's a second rounder, dude. And he's not. I mean, yeah, they took him when Tyreeks Hill future and Tyreek Hill's future in the NFL was particularly uncertain. Right. But this, this Kansas of the offense is obviously incredibly potent. And in some ways, they've underperformed for the standards that we expected them to to perform at. Who, who's the
Starting point is 00:08:33 person to have on your team that's not Tyree Kill or Travis Kelsey in the receiving game? Who's next? Honestly, it's like a rotating cast. It's like not even worth having any of them at this I don't think any of them are worth rostering because it's going to be so specific to that week's game plan. I think DeMarcus Robinson is the guy I would run a roster first. I think that makes you think that all of them should be rostered rather than none of them. It's just they're so boom-bussed. I don't think there's going to be anyone more boombust than all the chiefs receivers or pass catches rather than Kelsey and Hill. It's just like
Starting point is 00:09:03 it's not worth playing that game. It's the least fun thing to try to guess who the fourth option in that offense is going to be. I do think that the Mikul Hardman failure was an interesting example of a bigger thing that's happening this year with the Chiefs, which is,
Starting point is 00:09:19 and this was especially apparent in this game. The Bills essentially said, we're not going to let you beat us deep. We're not going to let you throw the ball deep. We're not getting beat by your speedsters. Tyree Kill was a big disappointment in this game, just three catches for 12.
Starting point is 00:09:33 20 yards. Obviously, Hardman, no catches. The bills essentially came out and said, we're not going to let your speed guys beat us. You can dink and dunk us to death. And the chiefs did do that. Like, they ran the ball 45 times or 46 times. It was the most running attempts they've ever had in an Andy Reid coached game ever, regular or postseason. The man's been a coach for 20 years. So this to me is like, you know, obviously the bills did not win, but they put themselves in a position to win. And it's going to be something that team, it's something that teams have been doing and it's something the teams are going to continue to do at a higher rate, I think. And so it makes these guys, you know, especially like Hardman,
Starting point is 00:10:08 where his main thing is like he has a home run hitting style, very, very boomer bust. DK, I want to read a quote from Patrick Mahomes on exactly what you're saying. After the Bill's game, and again, they ran them more than any Andy Reid game ever. And Patrick Mahomes said, once we saw how deep their linebackers and safeties and corners were playing, we knew that we had to run. We really just stayed with it. If teams are going to play us like this, you're going to see us. running the football. We have the guys that can do it.
Starting point is 00:10:34 It takes me back to my college days at Texas Tech when we're getting eight defenders and pass coverage and the linebackers are six, seven yards deep. If teams are going to do that, we've got to run the football until they come up. And when they come up, we're going to throw the football again. So that's really cool from an X's and O's perspective. Totally sucks from fantasy because we don't know what defense is going to do going into the game. Right. It could be good for Clyde, though, especially if part of his workload gets taken out by
Starting point is 00:10:58 Levi-on Bell when he starts getting in there. you know, his volume as a runner could go up. So at least from that point of view, it could be good for him. And he can't score any less touchdowns. Like, it's not like Levi-on-Bel can take touchdowns away from him because he doesn't have him. Maybe that's the other league we should do. We take touchdowns away from people. But if you look at the snaps, I just looked at the snaps from week three to week six on the chiefs.
Starting point is 00:11:19 McColl Hardman and Robinson are pretty much neck-and-neck-and-neck, except last week Robinson destroyed him and snaps. So that just, I guess, shows you how much of a coin toss it is. but if you want to base it off last week, Robinson might be the guy until Hardman has a big game and then Hardman's the guy. I think both of them should be on somebody's team. Freakant Byron Pringle had two catches for 46 yards. He had like a huge third down catch.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Yeah. It just reminded me that Pringle cans are too small. They just need to make it so you can fit your hands in the thing. Anyway, apologies for the bad predictions this last week. It was an off week. You're going to try and get back on track this week. Back on the horse. Okay, Craig.
Starting point is 00:11:56 How are you doing? You got your bold. What were your other two? Okay, so my gut was Jonathan Taylor had the best game of his season so far. I was wrong. He had the third best game of the season so far. He had 13 and a half points. The Jonathan Taylor breakout is coming. It is. I feel like it is. But it's coming. My second one was, this is my bad one. This is a Juju Smith-Schuster on my Pittsburgh Steelers would be the best scoring wide receiver on Pittsburgh last week. That was super wrong. He had two catches for six yards. Vaughn into the windup in his first offering. just a bit outside. He tried the corner and missed. The juju thing is fascinating to me.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Yeah, James Washington ended up being the guy who had the big week. I don't want to be, here's the thing. At what point are we going to start hearing that juju should spend less time on Twitch and more practicing? You're already hearing it. And here's the real question.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Do we believe it? Are we going to shame him for having a life and being fun? No. When do we do that? Hell no. So I am starting to become pretty confident that
Starting point is 00:13:00 Juju's not going to be in the Steelers next year. Yeah. Oh, that's sad. It feels like a foregone conclusion at this point. I still think he can have a good career and everything, but just the way that they're using him in this offense, like Deontay seems to be the highest volume guy,
Starting point is 00:13:14 and then Chase Claypool now has emerged as like the big play threat. And then Washington's competition. Washington's still around too, man. Three weeks from now, is he going to have 250 yards of the last three games that we're going to be talking about how we should have seen him as like an obvious bilo candidate, it? Or no, which is not how the offense works right now. Well, if you look at this, like, their targets, and it doesn't seem that way. It's not like
Starting point is 00:13:34 Juju's just not catching his passes. Like, he's getting, like, the third most targets on the team behind Claypool and Deontay Johnson, including Red Zone looks. Like, he's just not an essential part of the offense right now. I think he's going to have a few spike games during the course of the season, but it's going to be very difficult to predict when that's going to happen. He's going to be a frustrating person to have on your team just because you don't know, like, when it's going to come. He's either the first. He's either the go-to guy in an offense or the fourth guy in this offense. It's like very hard to.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And Pittsburgh spreads the ball around more than almost any other team. I saw some stat about like teams that throw to just two of their big ride receivers the most. And then the bottom of the chart is like the teams that spread it out. And like at the top was like the Vikings, right? Because all they throw it is Thielen and Jefferson. Steelers were dead last because they just, there's no two guys they go to. They pepper the most. It's like the Patriots backfield of receivers.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I just, yeah, it's tough. So that's that. And then my bold was that Kirk Cousins and Irv Smith would have over 30 fantasy points. And they did. They had about... The garbage time, Kings. Love it. They had about 34.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Earth had nine and a half. Kirk had 23. Nice. Good work. Real quick. I wanted to ask you, it's just blind resume. Someone has 23 catches in 194 yards and someone has 13 catches and 119 yards. Who's who?
Starting point is 00:14:48 In the whole league? Whole league. What? I don't know. How are I supposed to say it? First one's juju. Okay. Greg Ward.
Starting point is 00:14:58 The second is DeMarcus Robinson for the Chiefs. I'm just saying. I'm just saying he has like 60 more yards than DeMarcus Robinson. Yeah, that's... Anyway. Sorry, let's move on. Cousins, Smith, congratulations. High Fitz. What was yours?
Starting point is 00:15:14 So I said Annie Dalton be a top 10 quarterback, and I said Jared Gough would be a top 10 quarterback. Those were both wrong, tough. The golf one was going to take the L because he sucked and the Niners were better. The Dalton one was wild because, I mean, he was. the QB 22, but first of all, Michael Gallup, who's dead to me,
Starting point is 00:15:30 dropped a touchdown in the end zone that would have made Dalton the 11th best quarterback. And I do want to say, as wrong as QB22 is, he was a 10-yard, I mean, Michael Gallup just catches the ball in his hands and he's like the 11th. So almost. But I was more amazed. I kind of wanted to ask you guys
Starting point is 00:15:46 about the Cowboys, though, because the Cowboys are in such a weird place in fantasy. This season, just the big picture organization, everything. But you think about two years ago, this was a team that had DAC, a great offensive line, and no receivers. And it's like every Cowboys fan simultaneously wished that they have good receivers. And now they've gotten the exact, now it's like, be careful what you wish for. Dak has hurt. All five of their offensive linemen will have
Starting point is 00:16:10 turned over if Zach Martin can't play this week. They have undrafted free agents at both tackle spots, who I believe are bottom 10 and run blocking grade for pro football focus. Zeke Elliott has five fumbles in six games, which is tied for the most through six games. 50 years. Not to mention he'd fumbled twice a Monday and football after he told, like, Lisa Salters, the Sutherland reporter, I'm not worried about the fumbling anymore.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Like, there is a psychological collapse, but the thing that worries me the most isn't just that Andy Dalton is playing for this team that we were like, oh, he could keep it going, but they can't block anymore. It's a disaster with all these new linemen. The crazy part is, what I'm worried about is that,
Starting point is 00:16:51 without getting too cliche-e, but I'm about to be all cliche-e, when a moment like the Dak Prescott thing happens that was kind of an emotional moment right like that was a pretty heavy moment when you got hurt in those moments you come together
Starting point is 00:17:03 or you come or you get torn apart like it's I know it's a cliche but it's true and it's really true with football teams like teams usually in those moments come together they follow it up with this bad loss and what happens they just start the Cowboys just start shredding each other
Starting point is 00:17:17 the coaches immediately after that game ends the floodgates open and everyone starts blaming themselves and without being all like locker room prognosticator, there is something to the fact that like they should have come closer and clearly like they're unraveling. Do you like they're technically in first place in this division. I mean, we're recording as Thursday. Maybe the Eagles beat the Giants tonight. We'll see what happens. But I'm not just out on the Cowboys for like X's and O's reasons now from what I saw with
Starting point is 00:17:45 this line, which I'm really worried about cannot block for Dalton. But I'm like out on them spiritually as a team. It's not X's and O's. It's Jim's and Joe's. Just saying, that's my gut call in retrospect. That's what I feel like I was missing is I didn't realize, oh, they all hate each other. Yeah, this is like a bird's eye body language doctor view where you're just like, you know, maybe Dak tearing up his ankle just like sucked the air out of everything. And they're just like, fuck this. Like, we're not going to win.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Losing is going to do that regardless. Like they've, what are they? Two and four now or what? I mean, two and four. And that was, it was an ugly. loss. But basically, are you guys worried about a mark? Because here's the thing, Cooper, I think, has like fourth most target. C.D. Lamb's been really good. Would you, like, trade those guys away? That's what I'm asking. That was such a bad loss. Would you just trade away Cid Land to someone who
Starting point is 00:18:38 thinks he's really good? Like, are you worried? Because my whole thing with this offense was Dalton, Dalton's a top 10 quarterback this week because it's a good matchup. And I mean, obviously was spectacularly wrong. And I'm wondering, do you think that's just a blip? Or do you think that, look, you know what, Andy Dalton, this line is awful? What do we expect of this guy? I think I'm holding strong and keep hanging on to CD Lamb, hanging on to Marry Cooper. Gallup is a whole other conversation. But for those two guys in particular, I still think I'm holding on to those guys because I think that the volume is still going to be there. I think that Andy Dalton is going to be better than what we saw this last week. I don't think he's as bad as what we saw
Starting point is 00:19:20 this week. I don't think he's like, great. He's clearly not DAC in terms of what he can do and spread the ball around and all that. But I do think he's better than what we saw this past week. And I think that it was just a meltdown on all levels and it snowballed on him. And we just didn't see what they could do. I do think that the combination of them having a bad defense and a lot of star power on offense is going to create a bunch of shootout type games. And so I still think that these guys are going to have fantasy, like a lot of fantasy value going forward. And I I actually think that Dalton's going to do better in the fantasy realm, too, going forward. You know, it's funny how narratives can change literally because of the ball being one inch farther than or one inch closer.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Because if Andy Dalton would have completed that pass to Michael Gallup, and if Kyler Murray would have overthrown that ball that he almost overthrew... Oh, my God. Such a not good throw. I don't know if it was bad, but it wasn't good. If that was six inches too far and Kirk didn't catch... I mean, the game would be a lot closer, and we may be just thinking completely differently about it. That is the flip slide to this, is they, the Zeke's two fumble spotted them.
Starting point is 00:20:26 They've fluk, not flukiest, but the shakiest 14-0 lead. As crazy as it is, as it is, the 38 to 10 game really very easily could have been like 2417 in like mid-4th quarter. I mean, the Cowboys didn't look good. The second half, they were literally, like, dead. But so, okay, I would, if you could get top-tier value for Cidlam, I would do it. but you guys don't agree. But this Washington game is very important for me. If you can get top tier value, if you can get top tier value,
Starting point is 00:20:53 then I'm not going to look down on you for trading him. I'll put it that way. But I don't think he's going to completely fall off the map either. Okay. I'm a little worried, but we'll see. Okay, let's keep rolling here. I will say my bold prediction was that Levian Bell would sign with a future. I did it last week and I was like,
Starting point is 00:21:10 it's like a future's bet. It's like I'll get it later. He'll sign with a future Jets opponent and he will have his season high in yards and touchdowns against that opponent. Part one, boom, sign with the Chiefs like a few hours after we recorded. So that's a win. They're playing in two weeks. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Just saying. I'm halfway there. He's going to have, in his first game, he's going to have season high yards and TDs? Well, it's not as high as it sounds. It's 60 yards and one touchdown. But that's what you're saying. The first game he plays for the Chiefs. 60 yards and a touchdown specifically in the Chief's Jets game.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Oh, got it. Oh, that makes sense. All right. All right. Let's get into stuff for this week. DK. Bounce back. Back on the horse. Back on the Colts. Whatever you're doing. Bounceback is like the whole theme of my entire like week.
Starting point is 00:21:57 So I'm going to go with, I'm going with Keenan Allen bounce back game. Obviously last time he played two weeks ago, he, or I guess it was two weeks ago. He had a back injury so he missed a big chunk of the game. It sounds like he's on track to play this week. I really like the matchup with Jacksonville. I love Herbert. I mean, Herbert is just one of the biggest stories of this. this season to me. If it wasn't Herbert,
Starting point is 00:22:18 if he wasn't kind of like a dorky guy on the Chargers, don't you think it'd be a bigger story that he's basically like outplaying Burrow? I mean, not like Burrow was playing poorly, but I mean, what he's done is pretty goddamn impressive. If Burrow was doing what Herbert was doing, everybody would be losing their mind. I could not agree more. It is, it is
Starting point is 00:22:35 a perfect exposure of how narratives actually work. Right. Because of exactly what Craig just said. We, including us, we would be losing, we would be out of our gourds. We would be leading the show with Joe Burrow. he had done on the Monday night football thing and barely lost the breeze. We'd be like, oh, wow, like two legends. Like, absolutely ridiculous. One random, fun note about Justin Herbert went from the coolest uniforms in college to the coolest uniforms in the pros. You think that's a, it's a semi-hot take. I think that you think Oregon's uniforms are the best in the, in college.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Is that a hot take? It's Oregon. You feel light. If you're going for aesthetics, where would you rather go than Oregon? They have brand new jerseys every single week. Look, this is maybe because I live in Washington and Washington and Oregon are like the definitely because you live in Washington. Yeah. But like I feel like I see a lot of people say that the Oregon uniform changes is absolutely obnoxious and stupid. Maybe because you live in Washington like you just said.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Well, it might be obnoxious, but it's undeniably pretty sick. I mean, I think they're cool. Why are we even having this conversation? I don't ask Craig what he thinks about the Ravens. Like, why are we talking? Maybe it's because I live in Washington, but fuck Oregon. I don't even give a shit. Honestly. I like, hey look.
Starting point is 00:23:44 You're putting words on my mouth. I like the Oregon uniforms. I'm just saying, I think it sounded like a little bit of a hot take, but it's probably colored by where I live. In terms of jerseys, I think that's the coldest take in the world. And I thought you were going to say it was a hot take that I thought the Chargers uniforms are the best in the league. I didn't know you were going to say Oregon.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Chargers uniforms are dope. My favorite uniforms in the NFL for the record are the Saints all black. I think that's the crate, like, black and gold. I like the Saints all white with the gold. Really? Yeah. I think black and gold is like an unbeatable combo when it's right. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Wait, so, D.K., I got a question for you. There's that corner on the jag, Sydney Jones, who has been really good this year and has kind of come out of nowhere. Does that worry you at all? Do you know if he's going to be on Keenan Allen? Yeah, he's been a big surprise in a really bright spot for that defense. And, you know, it's just like a twist of the night for Eagles fans who have, you know, kind of had to bear with Cindy Jones when he was with the Eagles. Really high hopes for him.
Starting point is 00:24:38 What a Super Bowl, bear with. Get the fuck out of here. I mean, to put it lightly, he was disappointing in his tenure with the, with the eagle. So it's cool to see him succeeding so much in Jacksonville and having that like bounce back. But I don't, it's not something I really worry about. Based on PFFs like tracking, they're not really shadowing opposing receivers much. Keenan Allen plays in the slot a good amount of the time, moves around the formation. So it's not a situation that I would really be like afraid to start Keenan Allen. And I want to throw a few stats at you based.
Starting point is 00:25:12 on weeks two to four. So that three-game stretch when he was healthy, Keenan Allen was healthy, and when Herbert was the starter, Allen had the top weighted opportunity rating in the NFL among receivers. So that is, that's a rating at air yards.com. Josh Hermesmeyer does a great job with that. That tracks, it basically is a combination of air yard share and target share. And what that spits out is basically a player's opportunity to score fantasy points. And Keenan Allen was number one in the NFL in that stretch. So chasing the bounce back with Keenan Allen, the potential for him to have a huge amount of the target share in this game to put numbers to that. He had 39% target share, which is absolutely absurd in those four games, or in those three games. And Jacksonville's
Starting point is 00:25:59 defense just hasn't been very good. The whole team, I guess, is like spiraling, it feels like, over the last few weeks. Are we all? Yeah. I mean, I don't blame them. You know, it's a stressful time in the world, but 17 half PPR points is my benchmark for Keenan Allen. 17 and a half? 17 half PPR points. Here's what I'm thinking about. Keenan Allen is pretty underrated, right? I feel like every year he's awesome.
Starting point is 00:26:23 No one talks about him as like the top seven wide receiver. I think, and I'm just thinking about this now, shoot it down if it's stupid. Are all receivers who play on the West Coast underrated? I have to give this interesting. Every Seahawks wide receiver has been underrated. Every receiver on the Rams, Robert Wood, always underrated. Now we got, Keenan Allen's always been underrated. Is it because these guys always play at 125 in East Coast that's like,
Starting point is 00:26:47 as people are like going to dinner and nobody watches them play? What's going on? I mean... Greg, you say a lot of dumb stuff. I have to say, this is maybe the smartest thing you've ever said. I actually think you're exactly right. That's crazy. The only thing I would...
Starting point is 00:27:04 I actually think this is a very good theory. The only thing I would throw out to you is that Jerry Rice is the greatest receiver of all time. Maybe it's his fault. Entire career on the West Coast. Maybe it's like a Jordan thing. Yeah, but I mean, when you're far and away the best wide receiver ever, maybe that is good enough to get people at ease course to watch. But that's just my working career. I like this theory.
Starting point is 00:27:31 We should dig into this next week and try and like feel this out and see if we can like, actually come to a good, like with some data. I like this, though. Yeah, please email us at Ringer Fantasy Football at Gmail if you have any thoughts on this. The one problem I'm going to point out to you in advance is we have to define West Coast because southwest, Arizona is Larry Fitz and D. Andre Hopkins. But if we just go with the coast, then... No, Hopkins just got it. Hopkins doesn't count. Yeah. I'm actually amazed by this. Okay. I like this theory, though. It's a good one. Okay. Craig, do you have a gut off of that? Yeah, so I'll keep it quick.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Matt Ryan, top four quarterback this week against Detroit. Matt Ryan's weekly finishes when Julio Jones has played this year has been the QB5, QB6, and QB1. I think the Falcons are an average team that are playing like a terrible team. And like we talked about earlier this week, they are a different team with Julio Jones. They're playing the Lions. Aren't great towards quarterbacks. They give up the 11th most points. Matt Ryan is second in the NFL in passing yards.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I don't know. Hell yeah. I like this a lot. I like this a lot. The splits with Julio and without Julio are like absurd. He's like the 20, like the QB 24 and 25 or something
Starting point is 00:28:45 when Julio was out. It's like the before and after commercials. Right. Remember the Tony Romo's like and I have cable. Like that's the Matt Rob. Oh yeah, yeah. And I don't have Julio Jones.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Well, wasn't that Rob Lo? Not Tony Romo. I think there was a bunch of celebrities who did that. Yeah, there were several that they did that with. But yeah, so the Falcons have the second most
Starting point is 00:29:02 passing yards, but they only have the 13th most points. I think they might kind of meet in the middle. I think the Falcons are going to win their next three games. I think they're going to be four and five by week 10. And I like Matt Ryan this week. Top four quarterback. So I like what you said. I'm mad because I basically had very similar thoughts. My bold for the week is Matt Ryan and Matt Stafford are both top 12 quarterbacks and Kenny Galladay is also a top 10 wide receiver. And I basically just for everything you said about Matt Ryan, I mean, you could
Starting point is 00:29:30 have picked any combination of people. Basically, I just think this is a shootout. It's the highest over under the week. I think it's second highest, actually. But it's like 56. I think the game goes over. And I just think that it's going to be, the Falcons aren't going to be as bad as they've been. I think that Rahe Morris is genuinely better coach than Dan Quinn. I also think, as you said, like,
Starting point is 00:29:46 I mean, you said all those Julio numbers. They're real. And also you can just kind of see it. Like, he makes the offense better. Matt Ryan's clearly more comfortable when Julio's in the game. And also the Lions' offense is going to play better this week, too.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Morris is a better coach than Quinn. Not good enough because the Falcons are still giving up the most freaking yards in the league by a lot. I mean, they can get a lot better and also still suck. So I think that the Lions Falcons game is just a shootout. And if you're on the fence about playing anyone in Detroit, anyone in Atlanta, I would lean yes in basically every direction. Because I think that's going to be really big game. There's always a few games.
Starting point is 00:30:17 There's always a few teams that seem like they're in the same division to me. And the Lions and Falcons have always seemed like they should be in the same division. Whenever I see that, I'm like, that's a division game, right? They're like weirdly similar teams too because they both like have a quarterback named Matt that's been around for like about a decade. They're both kind of gun slingers. Yeah. it's like much better than they've Unappreciated kind of
Starting point is 00:30:36 underappreciated Not really achieved too much The fan base likes them a lot On a team that they are really Like the team is super disappointing The quarterback's not the problem And they're both just kind of irrelevant But they're gonna end up like top eight
Starting point is 00:30:50 And passing yards all time Exactly And it's just kind of like what do we do with these guys Yeah Also just peak men Both of them I know seven other people named Matt Who look exactly like them
Starting point is 00:30:59 High Fitz I heard the New York coming out in that What do we do with these guys? With these guys? You can see his shoulders bouncing up and down. Hey. Well, I think it's because I don't go out anymore. I don't talk to anyone that it doesn't come out.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Oh, it's out right now. Oh, it's out right now. It's the backwards hat. It's the backwards hat. It's the backwards hat. He's like slouching a little bit more than normal. You're like Christopher Moltosanti now. You're like, hey.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Oh, Maltosanti? Don't compare me at Christopher. I'm a mat. No, it's okay. All right. All right, D.K., you are up with a gut because we just got high if it's as bold. All right. So sticking with my bounceback theme this week, Tyler Lockett gets back on track this week.
Starting point is 00:31:38 If you look at what he did over the first three weeks, eight catches 92 yards, seven catches, 67 yards on the touchdown. And then in week three, nine catches, 100 yards, three scores. And then he has completely fallen off the map the last two weeks, two catches for 39 yards in week four, four catches for 44 yards in week five. Seahawks coming off their by. I think Arizona, and this is going to be in prime time, so there should be a lot of fun. if you're Arizona, let me ask you this. If you're Arizona, who is it that you're trying to take away on the Seahawks offense?
Starting point is 00:32:07 Metcalfe. Yeah. Russell Wilson. Well, obviously. Get rid of them. You know what I mean. If it's your correct, I think that they're going to tilt everything to Metcalf. Metcalf is by far the most dangerous player on their team, potentially one of the most
Starting point is 00:32:23 dangerous receivers in the game at this point. And so I think that's going to leave Lockett in a lot of situations where he can sneak behind the defense, do what he does out of the slot. I think he's so dangerous because of that. Dangerous? Nice. Yeah, dangerous. And so, yeah, this is like purely gut.
Starting point is 00:32:41 There's not actually like any stats that would probably back this up. But I just feel like Lockett's going to have a big comeback game this week. So what's your number? It is going to be 80 yards in a touchdown. You left out the most important guy that entire Lockett's a UWCG. He didn't go to shitty Oregon. It was an underrated West Coast guy. I literally was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:33:04 It was the first time that's ever been said, yeah. He went to K-State. It's real. Yeah, yeah. So this is actually very true. Like, Lockett is one of the most underrated receivers in the game. So looking at weeks one through three, he had a 30% target share. And then weeks four and five, 14%.
Starting point is 00:33:20 So I think it's going to go back up. I think they're going to try and take away Metcalf. I like it. Craig, you got another gut? Yeah. Drew Breeze and Jared Cook are going to combine for over 30 fantasy points
Starting point is 00:33:31 this week against Carolina. Oh, you're just going back to the quarterback tight end well? I love this. I love this. This is great. So the Saints are getting healthy.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Michael Thomas hasn't punched anyone yet. It seems like he's going to play this week. Jared Cook is a hamstring pole, so he might not. Michael Thomas might not play this week. Yeah, that's the thing to keep in mind. That would actually help you.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Yeah. Right. Jared Cook after the by week, back after missing a game or two with an ankle injury. So they're playing Carolina. who has the worst pressure rate in the league. And that always makes me feel good
Starting point is 00:34:01 against these old quarterbacks like Breeze. They rank last in sacks in 27th and quarterback hits. They're super hurt on the defensive line. I think the spread in this game is seven and a half. I think the Saints are going to win this game handedly. And Jared Cook has been really good against Carolina. Last year, he had 1443 yards and two touchdowns
Starting point is 00:34:21 against them in his two games. And he's really consistent. He said 50 yards in a touchdown in 14 of his last 50. games. I like Jared Cook a lot this week. I honestly like a lot of Saints. I think Kamar's going to be going insane. But Breeze and Cook over 30 fantasy points. I'm such a sucker for when you say, when you mention pressure
Starting point is 00:34:39 rates. Here's another one. If Michael Thomas doesn't play, who are you going for? Trequant Smith? I think he's an interesting sleeper if Michael Thomas doesn't play. Him or Sanders. So you're not worried about Breeze. I think the buy helps.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Yeah. All right. Mine, another gut for me. I guess I haven't even done a gut, have I? Because I just did the bowl first because you ruined mine. I think Kareem Hunt is a huge day. Kreme Hunt sucked last. So there's recency bias, right?
Starting point is 00:35:10 Where it's like a guy hasn't done so well. So you're like, does he suck? I think there's also saying we forget called decency bias, which is when a team is bad very recently. Because it's not just you think things that recently happened will keep happening. But you think if people are bad, you don't want to be like, oh, yeah, they'll be good. But they went from playing the Steelers to the best.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Bengals. The Steelers have, if not the best defense in the NFL, one of the best. Their run defenses by any metric top tier. And also, Baker Mayfield was awful in that game. And we're not defending Baker here. We kind of are wondering if Baker sucks openly allowed. Craig doesn't kind of. Craig is a no kind of kind of person here. He's staunchly anti-Baker. Baker's awful. Seth Galeena had a great Twitter thread this week that just kind of said that Baker's first quarter. I mean, Seth Gleon is a quarterback's coach who does film review for living. He's great, by the way. He basically was like Baker Mayfield's first quarter was actually one of the worst I've ever seen. And then you watch the video.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Also, Baker's throwing motion looks like Tim Tebow. Like, he's the longest arm motion. Oh, well, that's, that's fight words. But no, it just, he's not, he's not seeing what's in front of him for whatever reason. And I think that, honestly, I think that there's Mark Sanchez vibes in that he can't not see the rush. Like, he can't, he just, when the second there's pressure, he's seeing, like, Sam Darnold was like the seeing ghost quote last year Monday in football. Baker Mayfield's the guy seeing ghosts. he just sees pressure all around him even when it's not there and it really messes him up.
Starting point is 00:36:29 But here's the point. The Steelers have the best pressure rate in football, but the Bengals have among the worst. Like the Steelers are top two. The Bengals are bottom two. So you're getting the swing. You're getting this massive swing. And so how often is someone look bad in the NFL one week, look really good the next? And you're like, what happened?
Starting point is 00:36:46 This week, what's happening is they're going from the best defense to the worst. And the Bengals probably have worse. Their numbers are like the 23 in run defense. and then 31st or 32nd in pressure rate. They're actually worse than that because they've lost DJ Reeder, who I think was their second best run defender, and they lost Sam Hubbard, who's on IR,
Starting point is 00:37:03 who's their fourth best run defender. So they're actually worse than those numbers. And then the Browns have actually their third in run block grades on Pro Football Focus. So I think that this is kind of a classic pendulum game. And if that sounds nuts, in week one, the Brown's lost to the Ravens, like 38 to 6, and then beat the Bengals,
Starting point is 00:37:21 3530. And then they just lost to the Steelers, 38 to 7, like the same game script almost. And now they're playing the Bengals again. So who knows? So I think he has a big day. And I wouldn't be terrified to start Odell. Well, Jarvis is whatever.
Starting point is 00:37:34 But even if you're worried about Odell after that game last week, I would be much more confident in the Browns this week. How could you be worried about Odell when he's immune to COVID? His body just won't. He's also immune to being a productive fantasy player. Oh. Hey, yo. What's, uh...
Starting point is 00:37:48 After Odell's off season, you should be careful of what he talks about entering his body. That's all I'm going to say. Oh, yeah. But Kareem Hunt top five running back this week. That was good. Finally, somebody said it on this podcast. He finally said it. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:38:06 All right. D.K. We're going to dance around this. We're not going to actually say anything specific. You can Google it if you want. Yeah, Google it. Probably don't. DK, bold prediction.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Out of you. I'm going to the other side of the ball in this Cleveland Cincy game. So Justin Jefferson's had his big blow-up game. C.D. Lamb has had his big blow-up game. I'm calling the T. Higgins blow-up game, although he already has a game with two touchdowns. I think this is going to be the put-em-on-the-map game for Higgins
Starting point is 00:38:39 because he's been very good. He's been as good as some of these other big-name receivers that have gotten a lot more publicity. Jefferson and Lamb? Jefferson, Lamb. That's a statement. Well, let me rephrase that because I don't think he's not as good of a player. I think he's as interesting as a fantasy asset.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Let me put that way. Still a statement, though. Yeah, because listen, the Bengals are, they like throw the ball more than any team in the NFL almost. Actually, I don't have it in front of me. Do they throw the ball the most of any team in the NFL? Wouldn't surprise me. I believe he's second in attempts. There you go.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Borough, yeah, Borough, they're always playing from behind. They're throwing the ball a ton. No, he does leave the league in attempts. I'm sorry. Nice. He's number one. So there's a ton of volume in there in that offense. Now, Higgins is not the number one.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Technically, I think Boyd is probably like the go-to guy in that offense. But I think Higgins is close to like being Burroughs favorite target at this point. He's really good deep down the field. He's good for like one big play down the field every game. But he's also being used kind of over the middle and all these things. He's averaged eight targets a game. the last four games. He has like the size and jumping ability and contested catchability to be a big time threat in the red zone. I just like Higgins a lot. I'm going with 20 plus
Starting point is 00:39:58 half ppr points this week. Wow. And kind of like not really measurable, but put him on the map type game. This is your gut, not a bold? This is my bold. Oh, okay. I was going to say 20 points. So, D.K., if you want to get, I mean, we were just talking about C.D. Lamb and the whole Cowboys offense. And if you want to grab a player who's just about to ascend and maybe a player who might be descending, would you potentially just trade straight up? CD-Land for T. Higgins. Ooh, that's an interesting question. Well, no, not straight up because I think the whole point of trading away C.D.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Lam is you're trying to get better values. So it's like if you're trading for someone who has like T. Higgins on their team and then you're trying to get a running back and you're like, oh, by the way, throw in T. Higgins. No, I'm saying if you're like, if you want to grab a receiver who's going to score more points the rest of the way, then C.D. Lam. T. Higgins might be an easy way to do that. Yes. But to be clear, don't trade him straight up. Get better than that. I don't think I would do it. The question Craig asked me is like...
Starting point is 00:40:49 I'm basically saying who would you rank higher rest of the season. Yeah, rest of the season. Wow, now that you say this, I'm thinking about it. The fact that I'm even thinking about it, it does say a lot. Like last week, it took the Cowboys a really long time to get C.D. Lam involved in the game I was bitching about it on Twitter. Like, why don't you pass it to CD every freaking time? Because every time he touches the ball, something good happens.
Starting point is 00:41:08 It's like the opposite of Michael Gallup. Yeah. But I do think just generally speaking, I'm still a little bit higher on CD, but I do think there's a conversation to be had that Higgins could have a better second-out season just because he's going to have a lot of volume. They're always going to be playing from behind. I think Burrow is a better quarterback probably than Dalton at this point. So the Bengals thought that too. That's not like a hot take. Just throwing it out.
Starting point is 00:41:33 No, but that is the essence of it, isn't it? Like, Bengals and Cowboys probably have equally bad offensive lines. Honestly, Dallas might be worse at this point, which is crazy to think. But, like, at some point, aren't you kind of betting on the offense, which obviously two weeks ago, that was Dallas. But going forward, my God, Joe Burrow leads the league and Pat, like, is that the move? I actually think I've talked myself into this. I love T. Higgins. Hopefully Joe Burrow does too.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Okay, Craig. Did you do your bold? I can't keep track for anything anymore. My bold is that George Kittle will not be a top seven tight end this week against New England. So, as I just stated, the 49. are traveling to Foxborough, where it is going to be 50 degrees and dropping as they play Bill Belichick, the former coach of quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo in the chilly Foxborough air. So not only do the Pats give up the six fewest points to quarterbacks, they give up the fifth
Starting point is 00:42:28 fewest points to tight ends. And we all know what the Patriots do the best is they take away the team's best option. A couple weeks ago when they were playing the Raiders after Darren Waller had that huge game, Darren Waller was clearly the best receiving option on the Raiders. And what happened in that game, Waller had two catches for nine yards. On average, the Patriots are giving up four points a game to the starting tight end of the opposing team. Holy shit. I think the Patriots are going to win this game. And I think Bill Belichick is going to scheme the shit out of Jimmy G. and George Kittle. If Kittle is a no-go in this game, do you think, would you go with Devo and Iuke? Would you feel confident starting those two guys? I think I'm, I think this is a big fade Niners week for me. I know
Starting point is 00:43:10 they looked great against the Rams, but... I think this is really smart, and I also think of Jimmy sucks. We're going to find out this week. Yeah. I think that that's... That's why they need to trade Sam Darnold to the 49ers. I went on the NFL show the other day,
Starting point is 00:43:22 and that was my... What would you give up for Darnold? I think you could get him for a second rounder, can't you at this point? And then the Jets just tank and get Trevor Lawrence. Yeah. All right. I have to pick a bone.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I hate the thing of like, oh, yeah, they'll just get this player. in like week seven, it drives me up a wall. Because as a person who's rooted for the Giants last three years, let me tell you how one stupid win can knock you back four places in the draft. Like the Jets can win. Like there's,
Starting point is 00:43:53 how many teams have one win right now? There's six. The Jets can win three stupid games and get like the sixth pick. And I just hate the thing. Oh, look, Trevor Lawrence. I mean, it's not like,
Starting point is 00:44:04 I mean, look, there's Justin Fields. There's this kid from, you know, where, what is the other top prospect in the, who played one game this season?
Starting point is 00:44:12 I can't remember his name, D.K. North Dakota State guy? Yeah. Who's played one game this season? That guy who will probably also go top ten. But it's like, you can't just automatically assume the Jets are getting Trevor Lawrence. I hate this thing. Trey Lance, Danny.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Trey Lance, yeah, the immortal Trey Lance. That's not going to work out. I'm just saying that the idea that you can just leap to, oh, look at Trevor Lawrence. Guess what? If the Jaguars get the first pick, you're not getting Trevor Lawrence. That's all I'm saying. Anyway. All right.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Sorry, it just grinds my gears. Craig has already written off Tray Lance because of his name. You're never going to see Trey Lance's name in the Hall of Fame. Hi Vick. Your gut, your last gut. Oh, yeah, my last gut.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Oh, I think Terry McLaurin has a huge game. Terry McLaurin, I think, is going to do 100 yards in a touchdown. I know that sounds not so bold. No, that's pretty bold. I mean, that's a gut call. That's pretty bold gut. I think it's 100 yards in a touchdown
Starting point is 00:45:04 specifically because if you're grading on a curve, because his quarterback's been Kyle out. Dwayne Askins, Alex Smith. He's been really good. He had seven catches, like 74 yards last week. About that one was a little Newark right there against James Bradbury. I love it.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Keep it going. Oh, my God. But the point is McLaurin's been really good. He's also fifth in targets in the NFL. He's seven every game so far. And the Cowboys secondary is awful. And they're confused. They're slow.
Starting point is 00:45:28 They're apparently annoyed at their coaches. McLorin's really fast. And they get him the ball a lot. And I'm just kind of taking the odds against what has proven to be one of the worst defenses in the NFL and seem to be one of the most disheartened. So I just think that this is going to be a huge game for him. I like it. To your point, High Fitz, you know, to go back to the Whopper,
Starting point is 00:45:48 the weighted opportunity rating that I brought up earlier, Terry McLaren is fifth in the NFL at receiver right now through six weeks. He's getting tons and tons of volume. It's just the quarterbacks have been terrible. He also, I was looking this up. So apologies, if you already mentioned this. He's also gone up against really good corners throughout the season. And he gets that lightened up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:46:09 There's a lot of, there's a lot to like, talk about, I mean, trade candidates. Terry McLoran is right there because his schedule gets way easier. The front, as you just said, the first seven, the first six games pretty hard. All, if you want, yeah, if you want a guy who the underlying number suggests is about to explode, Terry McLaurin, speaking of which, do you guys like, he's, there's two nicknames.
Starting point is 00:46:28 There's F1. Yeah. And then Matthew Berry is insisting on calling him Terry McScoran. No. Wasn't Scary Terry one of them, too? Oh, yeah, and Scary Terry. I don't really like any of them, to be totally honest. All right, well, we can come up with a better one.
Starting point is 00:46:45 The reason none of them was stuck is because none of them are good, in my opinion. Well, maybe just Washington's bad. No one wants to talk about anything Washington right now. Okay, so we got the list. Are we drafting these right now? The ones we like the best? Let's each pick one. We each get one pick.
Starting point is 00:47:01 My favorite is that George Kittle will not be a top seven tight end. Although my real favorite is that Craig saying that all. all the West Coast receivers are underrated is really good. Locket, Nettcalf, Bobby Trees, Keenan Allen.
Starting point is 00:47:13 It's a really good one. I'm jealous of that. I think I'm going to go with the Terry McLauran one because that was one that I had thought about putting two, Danny. But I already did a McLaren
Starting point is 00:47:22 prediction earlier the season and it didn't work out for me. So, but I'm going with that one again. Mr. Stelio, take I am. I like the, I like the,
Starting point is 00:47:31 I like the tell I locket one. I just love Seattle this year. Locket in with Locket. That's my worst segue I've ever done. All right, time for the million. lineup. We are doing a million dollar lineup on Fandil. Winner gets a million bucks. Did we win a million last week? We, I actually didn't even get to enter the thing. I messed up
Starting point is 00:47:50 because it actually filled up. Again. Yeah, it filled up. So I actually, every week. I, so I, I am the person who owes you guys money this week. We're not blaming the player. We're blaming me. The best ability. The best ability is availability. I did not make our lineup available. So I really felt good about last week, too. We had a great team. So I pushed the lineup on you two this week. And this week, what I pushed was we're trying to stack the Lions Falcons game because I believe in it. So we're wrong with quarterback. We got Stafford and Ghaladay in that game. And then we also got Calvin Ridley receiver and we're doing Hayden Hurst at tight end because I'm not giving up on Hayden Hurst. And then we put in Kareem Hunt a running back. Clyde Ed was a Laird running
Starting point is 00:48:28 back, Kareem because he's just, he's going to have a big day and he's not very expensive. And Levion's not playing yet. We don't think. I don't think so. And then Clyde is just, you know what, how many times can you get touchdowns called back? We'll see. We've got Terry McLoran in, Terry McScoran or whatever. And then Bill's defense, because they're playing the Jets, lull. And then, D.K., tell us about our flex, our lottery ticket play. This kind of goes a little bit against my earlier prediction, but David Moore from the Seahawks,
Starting point is 00:48:55 who is their third receiver. No, it doesn't go against it. I mean, Russ throws for like 350 yards every game. It's a hedge. Good point. Good point. He's going to throw for four touchdowns. So one of them is going to go to David Moore.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Maybe two. We'll see. He's their specialist. He's the third receiver in that group, kind of like the big play down the field, go up and get it kind of guy. He also gets used on screenplays quite a bit. But I've been like the David Moore stand of Seahawks Twitter
Starting point is 00:49:21 for the last like three years, and it's fun to see him finally kind of starting to emerge a little bit. He's definitely a role player, but he has these spike weeks every once in a while that makes him interesting and he's cheap this week. So David Moore against the Cardinals. Sunday night football. CX got moved to Sunday night, by the way.
Starting point is 00:49:38 They did, which is great. It's amazing. All right, let's do fantasy court and we get out of here. Yeah. All right. It's from Mark. Mark. Hey, Danny, Danny, and Craig.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I've got a unique situation for you that requires an unbiased third party to rule on the decision. I'm the commissioner of a keeper league with my college buddies and we have a waiver stealing rule. If you bid the same amount as another manager for a waiver pickup, we rule it a tie, regardless of waiver priority, whoever of the fantasy set a way. the player to. The first manager to post a video drinking a full beer gets the player.
Starting point is 00:50:10 This is fucking awesome. This is really great. And it says post-college, this has turned into whoever can sneak away from work for a mid-morning lunch beer wins. Anyway, this week, someone chugged a hard seltzer
Starting point is 00:50:21 to steal the bill's defense, which caused an uproar in the league group's chat since it is decidedly not a beer. Some are arguing that a seltzer maintains the spirit of the rule and others are not having it and don't want the steal to be upheld. what should we do and who's going to walk away with the bill's defense?
Starting point is 00:50:39 Okay, so we have not talked about this. I do have a thought. Do you guys have a hard, like a staunch opinion? I have many thoughts. I've thought through both. I know what I think hit me. I think it doesn't count. It needs to be a beer.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Why? They're different drinks. I mean, if you were going to do a chugging contest against somebody and someone's like, oh, you obviously don't mind if I chug against you with a seltzer, right? I'd be like, no, they're completely different. It's like a soda in an orange juice. They're different. D.K., what do you think?
Starting point is 00:51:06 My question here, and this is getting, like, really technical? Like, could you do a vodka water? Is that fine, too? The winner isn't the person that drinks the beer the fastest, right? It's the first person to post a video of them drinking a beer. Yes, correct. So it's, to me, it's not like, it doesn't, I don't think it actually really matters, to be honest, if it's a beer or as long as it's an alcoholic beverage. The spirit is you're drinking during the day, you know, at work, it's funny. like you're sneaking away from work to drink alcohol.
Starting point is 00:51:35 It's not like how fast you chug a beer because if it was how fast you chug a beer, that's a different thing because beer and seltzer are different. It's like harder to chug a beer maybe or whatever. But if it's beer, isn't part of the whole thing is like this guy at his job's fridge or whatever? Maybe there was only a white claw in there and then he did that instead.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Is that fair? That's the thing. I agree, but here's the thing. There are two ways to look at this. The letter of the law, spirit of the rule. Letter of the law, did he post the video of himself drinking a beer? No, fails the letter of the law. But we all agree that the goal here is to go with the spirit of the rule. So the question is, is a hard seltzer a beer spiritually? And which I sent on behalf of the
Starting point is 00:52:18 court, I followed up with this guy. And on behalf of the court, I requested more documents. And I asked him three questions. What was the brand of hard selzer? We got all the evidence. What was the brand of hard seltzer? And then I asked, do your league mates drink, this brand of hard seltzer at times when beer is available. And Mark responded that the seltzer in question was White Claw and that they used seltors interchangeably with beer for the most part, bringing a six-pack to a party playing drink games. And the fact that it is individually canned is definitely a point in favor of the ruling.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Our group has spirited debates on the flavors and brands of seltzers, and I'd say White Claw is the preferred brand for us. And here is my thought on the court. If they talk about seltzer enough that they have a preferred brand and drink it In lieu of beer, often, it spiritually is a replacement for the beer. That guy gets the, that guy gets the thing and then write your goddamn rules more specific. But I rule, no, that has to count because their group has, we're interpreting their group's rules, and they have already ruled Seltzer interchangeable with beer.
Starting point is 00:53:21 I'm just going to say, like, if this guy had gone and, like, chugged a Zima on his lunch break and sent it in, like, to me, that's hilarious and it should count. Here's the funny part, though. this is all hypothetical. Here's the best part is we're actually throwing the case out on a technicality because the fact that the other guy,
Starting point is 00:53:39 this is from Mark, he has not posted a rebuttal, the other guy in the room, has not posted a rebuttal chugging a beer, which is truly a head scratcher and would make the ruling harder. The other guy hasn't posted a video at all. So the guy doesn't get the guy.
Starting point is 00:53:51 He didn't even show up to court. Yeah. He didn't show up to court. You automatically, yeah, so you lose. He skipped a court date. Throw it out. See, it doesn't matter. This is, so now,
Starting point is 00:54:00 it's an opportunity for you guys to figure out of Seltzer is make a rule. But yeah. Here's what I would do. If I was the only judge in this situation, I would say the other guy has to come up with a funnier thing to drink and chug it and then he could win. All right. Well, bring in the dancing lobsters.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Case dismissed. Fantasy court is out of session. Thank you to Mark for that email. Ring your Fantasy Football at gmail.com. If you want to send us fantasy court cases, thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. And thank you to everyone for listening. Best of luck this weekend. We will see you on Monday.

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