The Ringer NFL Show - Week 7 Recap: DangeRuss Steelers, Mahomes Trucks 49ers, Goodbye Watson, and “STROUD”

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

The guys recap all the Week 7 action by going through some categories, such as “Who Won Week 7?,” “FEELING NICEY,” and “Fart or Shart” (1:00). Later, they add a name to the Fantasy Burn Bo...ok (01:15:14). Finally, they address the great Bambi debacle (01:18:17). Winners and Losers (9:35) The Oppenheimer Award (32:41) It’s So Over/We’re So Back (38:53) Fart or Shart (44:55) FEELING NICEY (47:57) Intrusive Thoughts (52:08) Play of the Day (1:05:11) Worst Play of the Day (01:07:57) The Arthur Smith Award (01:08:27) Worst Ref Moment (01:11:02) Lucille Bluth Award (01:13:35) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings: https://fantasyfootball.theringer.com/ Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producers: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:55 My name is Danny Hyfitz and I am joined in person by Danny, Kelly and Craig Borlbeck. And we are going over all the games, almost all the games, from week seven. And we're going to be here all week in Los Angeles. We're here. We're doing all the episodes this week in person. We watched all the games today together for the first time in years. In a movie theater. Only one way to start.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Craig, Steelers just kicked the Jets ass. Russell Wilson, undefeated as a Pittsburgh Steeler. How do you feel? What's tuck me through your emotional range today? DK prep me well with the bingo card, which nobody hit bingo because Russ was too good. No, he was too clean. He was too damn good.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Look, we could take any quarterback. Who's next? Bryce, young? Can we win with Bryce? What about Kenny Pickett? Well, I don't know about Kenny Pickett. Well, he beat the Giants today, technically. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Russ was really good. I got to say, it was a little shaky. I think Pickens bailed them out a lot, but it feels like the Steelers have an identity. Feels like we have two good quarterbacks. Now I'm kind of retroactively convincing myself, everything that Tomlin said this week makes sense. I was thinking about a clip this week of Bill Belichick,
Starting point is 00:01:59 I think talking to Peyton Manning like earlier in the season. And I thought this was a total bit. And he was like, I think that the Pittsburgh Steelers might have the best quarterback situation in the entire league. And I was like, wow, what a liar thing to say. And then there you go. Maybe Billa Chick's right.
Starting point is 00:02:14 No, no, it's not. What? come on well at least we now know like we know what we have with fields right we have six games of fields we know what we can do with fields now we're learning you know what we can do with russ and then you can make a decision at the latter half of the season what you want to do if something goes wrong at least I know what type of offensive stealers are with fields and I know what type of offensive steelers could be with with with russ which is like honestly a very like Houston Rockets-esque offense it was all just like bombs and short little passes to Darnell, Washington, and we ran the ball great. And I saw this
Starting point is 00:02:50 from Matt Harmon. The Steelers on play action was like, that's the biggest difference with Russ and Fields. They were eight for nine today for 150 yards on play action. It was the most play action yards by Steelers quarterback since 2016. Really? Tonight. That makes a difference. Fields was not great with play action. Kenny Pickett was not great. Ben was in his Adele Park and Bark era for the last like six years of his career. And so that's what Russ brought, which DK, I'm sure you can speak to because that was what he's always been good at. I was going to say, yeah, it's like, I kind of thought he would be taking
Starting point is 00:03:20 more sacks and things like that. I thought they did a good job of, you know, kind of moving around. It wasn't like a lot of straight dropback stuff. We were joking during the game that it felt like every time, every time on second down, they would run play action and throw a little dump off to darn out Washington. It was just like one way or the other, and they just like keep sparing.
Starting point is 00:03:36 And there was a bomb to pick it one way or the other. But yeah, I mean, I mean, Piggins. I think it was always this was how I pictured Russell Wilson, it was like those deep bombs down the sideline. That was always a huge thing for the Seahawks offense in the Russell Wilson era. In fact, they, for an era for a while there with the Seahawks, they had this thing where they're like, let's own the red line. And if you haven't seen on a lot of practice fields, there's a little literal red line running up the sideline.
Starting point is 00:04:01 It's like, I don't know, three or four yards off the sideline. And they just always talk about own that red line, own the red line. And all the Seahawks receivers would do this. And Russ is so good at just dropping it in a bucket down the sideline. And even a couple of those plays that they made, it was like he kind of short-armed it. He's still kind of, I think, getting his chemistry with Pickens.
Starting point is 00:04:19 But yeah, he fits perfectly with, like, Pickens style because Pickens will catch anything. He's the 99 contested catch receiver and matted that you're just chucking up to. Absolutely ridiculous catch out of bounds today. Like, High Fitz your joke is if the field was like another yard and a half wide, like he'd be Jerry Rice. He's like a Harlem Globetrotter, right? Like every passes, he's like tipping balls around.
Starting point is 00:04:37 He's like doing tricks. He had one catch he literally caught it three times. He just like keeps throwing it up to himself. So yeah, he played a lot more clean than I thought. You're a better second half, too, Russ. Like, you could feel him getting warm. I think they scored on, I think the Steelers scored on the last five drives of the game,
Starting point is 00:04:52 which, like, just sounds insane. The Steelers having a competent offense. Look, I'm not going to get too ahead of myself. Like, I feel like next week, Russ could immediately be a pumpkin against the Giants. Right. And don't put that, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Don't you dare do that. Reverse jinks. Like, it's like a reverse jinks off. Yeah, you snake. We're not going to be able to block Brian Burns. we're going to get screwed. And Russ is going to get killed. Fields will be in.
Starting point is 00:05:14 That's so... Fields will be in. I'm so mad at you. But so, well, first of, I... The Tomlin thing, I'm not going to lie, the first couple drives and Russ looked awful. I thought this was, like,
Starting point is 00:05:25 a huge mistake from Tomlin to put Russ in. And then I kind of... I feel like it was interesting to just see... I feel like, especially coaches like Tomlin are so much. You know, we're just thinking about the next week.
Starting point is 00:05:34 We're thinking about the next week. And it was so interesting to have Tomlin very transparently be like, no, we're thinking about the whole season. Yeah, we're kind of win. Super Bowl. I was like, okay. Our schedule does seem hard later.
Starting point is 00:05:43 We got to figure this out now. So also, D.K., you came up with, we played Russell Wilson Bingo tonight. Yeah. And I'm not going to lie, I can't believe how many of these you hit. You nailed after 10 years of watching Russell Wilson play football. We nailed like, what, eight of these tonight in the bingo card, the corny pregame ritual. That was a given, yeah. Lose 10 yards in a sack.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Obviously, he had the cringe answer in an interview. I think he did that before the game. He was super sweaty and out of breath in the pregame interview. But we need to take that before every pod moving forward. It's just enthusiasm. It's just enthusiasm. It's just worship music and hard work. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah, it was like, it was a bunch of like, I hear whatever worship music he's listening to. Damn. A bunch of non-sequitur, like, cliches, just like spouting them off. Lecrae. I don't know. But the, yeah, the whole.
Starting point is 00:06:31 What's that? It's like a Christian rap. Oh. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that either. Yeah, I didn't know that. I'm not tapped into that. I wasn't going to call.
Starting point is 00:06:40 follow him on that because I didn't know what he was talking about. Who's the band who does that here comes to boom. Aren't they Christian rap? POD? Yeah. That sounds so familiar. Wait, that's a Christian rap song?
Starting point is 00:06:51 POD in general, I believe is a Christian rap band. We have a POD, you know? Pod. I'm moving on. Jesus. So just to go to the Jets. I'm just going to double check here about POD.
Starting point is 00:07:03 It is a Christian. Yeah, they are. American Christian New Metal. So again. From San Diego. Whoa. So the Steelers won 37 to 15. I'll say it again.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Russell Wilson and the Steelers scored 37 points in the Jets. Russell Wilson scored a whole bunch of fantasy points too, by the way. Hades haven't scored 37 points since 2020. So the Jets started four and three last year with Zach Wilson. Aaron Rogers and the Jets are two and five. D.K., what the fuck do the Jets even do now? I think they're like a receiver away. They've got to go trade for somebody.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Maybe they'll trade away Garrett Wilson. Ewing theory because Garrett Wilson had an atrocious ball like hit him in the chest bounced off of him it turned into a near pick six he got to the one yard line
Starting point is 00:07:48 the defender did. You think that was what did him in? Yeah that was the final nail in the coffin there. I'm kidding. But Adam Schaeffer did say this week that teams are calling about Garrett Wilson.
Starting point is 00:07:58 They should call about Devonti Adams and honestly I wouldn't put anything past Aaron Rogers right now like it's backs against the wall time you get the GM the coach, well I don't know the coach, but the gym, the quarterback is getting old.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Like, everybody's back is against a wall right now. I kind of think with the jet, it's like there's nothing you can do. You just have to hope. I think the hope is dead. They have to finish eight and two to get to 10 wins. I was like, that's all they have. I don't know what moves they can make right now. There's no hope.
Starting point is 00:08:24 What hope? The Mets season ended, the jet season is over. What are you? The hope was the last like two years. What are you talking about? I'm literally saying, like, there's no move you can make, is my point. Like, it's just like sit there and watch and hope. This does seem like a situation you get in when your owner's like thinking's overrated.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah. Do you ever get like a twinge of like you feel bad for Jets fans? No. Yeah. All the time constantly. They're miserable people. I just keep thinking again of Sean Fennessey's tweet before the season. He was like, I'm just going to go on record.
Starting point is 00:08:56 He's like it's going to be a catastrophe or something like that. Yeah. Then you say like they'll fire Robert Sala, Aaron Rogers will retire. Yeah. Just yeah. Pretty prescient. Being bored into the jets. And you could probably say that before every season and be, like, right most of the time with the Jets?
Starting point is 00:09:12 Yeah, I'm not going to lie, I think, that the Jets Aaron Rogers' experience. It's crazy how history just rhymes sometimes. And this is just the Brett Farr thing all over again, just enough, except without making the playoffs. And it actually is like way worse. Dude, the Jets defense today, negative three fantasy points. Yeah, they're tough. Against Ross. Honestly, it's not even enough.
Starting point is 00:09:30 That's 37 points. Negative three is generous. All right. So winners and losers from the day. I feel like I'm a loser and Sequin Barclay is a winner I'm going to start there Yeah
Starting point is 00:09:43 That's tough All you have left is hope So the Eagles beat the Giants 28 to 3 Maybe they can still come back 28 to 3 You know Yeah hope
Starting point is 00:09:56 So John Marron remember on hard docs When he was like I'll have it If Seqin goes to Philly I'd have a tough time sleeping Well he was right Seekwon had second most rushing arts
Starting point is 00:10:05 Of Seikwin's entire career Which actually undersells it because Sequin was 13 yards shy of his career high with 13 minutes left to go when he was pulled from the game. But they were winning by too much. They were winning by too much to play him. Kenny Pickett came in.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Saquan has more rushing yards today than the Giants had total yards. And Sequin scored a touchdown on MetLife Stadium this season before Daniel Jones did. Who's your least favorite giant right now in the organization on the team in general? All right.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Who do you think is my least favorite giant? I actually don't know. Is it Joe Shane? Is it Daniel Jones? Oh, it's Daniel Jones. Okay. Daniel Jones. A week ago, you guys were back together.
Starting point is 00:10:41 What happened? I didn't say back together. I said I was talking to this toxic X I wanted out of my life. The J-Lo and Affleck thing? Yeah, and I'm sitting there with the dragon tattoo on my back, smoking, staring at the sea. And I'm like, this is, no, but it's finally over now. Now it's over. It's over.
Starting point is 00:10:55 It's over. It's never been more over for Daniel Jones. Brian, like, they benched it for Drulloch today. We saw Drulock. Well, they didn't, it was like, not a real benching. It was a trial balloon. It's like, text. your ex.
Starting point is 00:11:07 You know what that meant. That's what you just did to Daniel Jones a week ago. No, well, it's a new person. So not texting your ex. It's somewhat, look, Daniel Jones is this nice guy that we settled for, and, like, clearly we shouldn't have moved in so quickly. And Drew Locke is he, he's tall, he's got a big arm. I don't know if he's got anything going on up here,
Starting point is 00:11:26 but that's not what I need right now. I just need someone exciting right now. And Drew Locke is... He's a really smooth jumper. You guys ever seen him play basketball? No. Good, good Hooper. Did he play in high school?
Starting point is 00:11:36 Yeah, he was a really good high school basketball player. That's, look at that, that's cool. Daniel Jones really sucks at basketball. It can't be worse than he is at football. I fucking hate this team. Sequin looks so good today. Dude, Sequin,
Starting point is 00:11:53 Giants could use a player like that. Yeah, but he wouldn't help that much, really, honestly. Like, you guys would probably be in the same position. Yeah, they're a giant sort of awful team. It is. They didn't have Andrew Thomas. A good running back helps a good team so much. more than a good running back helps a bad team. I think that's 100% the thing. It's like a running
Starting point is 00:12:10 back is not going to put a bad team over the top or like get them out of the seller or whatever, but a good running back can really put like a good team over there. Yeah, like a good running back can close games, which only good teams are in the position to do. I mean, Derek Henry with the Ravens, I know they haven't played yet this week, but like Gibbs on the lines this week. Mix it on the Texans. And the Niners being worse that McCaffrey. Like it does, anyway, yeah, the Giants are right there. Craig, who's your winner from week seven? Browns. God.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Big Browns Day. today. Sometimes life finds a way, you know what I mean? So this is obviously in reference to Deshawn Watson tearing his Achilles tendon. He's out for the year. Out for the year. Almost surely. Crazy. Deshawn's been in
Starting point is 00:12:48 he's been on the Browns for three years. Each of the three seasons he's played exactly six games. What a disaster. Six six six. Isn't that interesting? Oh wow. I didn't even I will say a player, even guy like Deshawn
Starting point is 00:13:04 Watson getting hurt. You can't make fun of guys getting hurt. No. Nice. I'm pretty sure you guys are. Oh, you're not? Do you want to join in? Water's warm. I mean, I'm gonna like laugh along. I think this is the definition of the exception that proves the rule.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Dude, I just can't believe this happened. I know. This is crazy. I mean, if we're being like a hundred percent honest, like what do you think, like the coach and the GM were like thinking at that moment? Were they like, finally? Thank God. You know that, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:36 Like in their heart of hearts, they were probably like, oh, my God. I think I mentioned this before, but you know that the Steve Krell movie, Get Smart? He's like the secret agent. He gets promoted, and he has the cone of silence. And he presses it and he comes around. He goes, it's the best day of life! I think that's what I'm saying. So now the question becomes, are they going to go with Thompson Robinson or James Winston?
Starting point is 00:14:03 I mean, DTR is terrible. I mean, the James is. Yeah, but there's been all these, like, there's been all these reports all season that they, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like this stuff. I mean, that doesn't mean anything, I guess. But as, as, uh, you always say, lying. Yeah, but James was the emergency third key. Maybe that's just so they don't get tempted to put him in.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I still feel like the answer is going to be actually he has a clause in his contract that they have to pay him per game roster bonuses or something. I still, I still, I'm wrong. Maybe there's a reason, but maybe DTR is better. But, well, this is our buddy Roger Sherman was tweeting this day. It's like, so it's because they don't want fans clamoring for James to come in. I was wondering. Yeah, that would feel like a conspiracy theory if they didn't literally get rid of Joe Flacco
Starting point is 00:14:38 because he made the playoffs. And I also, just to your point about Kevin Stefansky, I feel like he's like the main guy in Shogun where you're like, oh, this was your plan the whole time. Yeah. I think the real question is, so what is it, week seven, Tours Achilles.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Do you think Deshawn Watson never plays football again? Dude, I don't know. It's a fair question because I... Not as a starter. Think about how... I mean, obviously. But what are you going to do? Bring Deshawn Watson in as your backup?
Starting point is 00:15:03 I think it's going to be like one of those things where his rehab takes a really, really long time. Do you think he actually wants to keep playing? Honestly, it's like a thought experiment. It's like, would you want a quarter of a billion dollars if everyone in the world hated you? I know. Like, you were just like this.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Like, he's like a pariah. I don't know, it is crazy because I believe for various accounting reasons that are way too boring to get into right now, this in a way helps the brown salary cap a lot. And it's kind of like they should basically, it would probably be in everyone's best interest. Because they essentially have an insurance policy out, right?
Starting point is 00:15:33 Yeah, and they basically would probably, the best scenario for the Browns is probably Deshaun Watson saying this medically ended my career. And he kind of should just ride off in the sunset, take a quarter of a billion dollars guaranteed, the Browns finagola in a way that comes off their cap. And you know what, Deshaun, never appear in public ever again. Go away, buy an island somewhere. And like, you know what? Cool. Because I feel like he's kind of the first person that actually got canceled. Like, he's just gone.
Starting point is 00:15:57 He didn't get hurt. I wouldn't give him an island. Not a great track record. rich people with islands yeah I think I heard cousin Sal talking about this like he just hasn't looked like he's wanted
Starting point is 00:16:10 to be out there at all this year like he's like I'm I think he's probably relieved he's relieved yeah maybe not like the worst injury yeah possible maybe not maybe he wouldn't have chosen Achilles but most people I think are relieved
Starting point is 00:16:24 which is nice I mean the Browns I think the only way Deshawn Watson could have got a standing ovation is if he had done the thumbs down on the cart on the way out. He's like, I'm screwed. Yeah. The fan, did the fans boo when he was getting carted off? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And the players freak, which I will just say to the Brown's players, I'm sure it's weird for them to watch, like, they've all been heard on the field. And I'm sure it's weird to see the fans like turn on one of them. And I obviously it's Watts. But to them, they're thinking about what if I was booed? Having said that, I'm just going to read the quote that Miles Garrett talking about the Deshaun Watson getting, and he was booed as he was carded off the field. I get that for Watson. Miles Garrett, I can't believe this was real.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Miles Garrett said, quote, Deshawn Watson was a model citizen through college and most of the pros. You can't write that. It sounds like something you'd put on the onion, yeah. Most of the time. Most of the pros. Technically speaking. Also, I believe it was definitely less than half of the pros. But it's neither here and over there.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Anyway, yeah, winners, definitely the Cleveland Browns. DK, who's your biggest winner for today? I didn't have a winner at a loser. Nice. Mike McDaniel, head coach of the Dolphins who... DJ Mikey Mike. Lost of the close.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Look, I want him to do well. I'm a fan of him. I think the way he coaches is really... I don't know, unique. It's the right word, but it's not the norm thing. He's very much in tune with people's, like, feelings and confidence building
Starting point is 00:17:51 and what he had done with Tua after last year. I think it was really interesting. I also think he's, like, really good at designing a run game, all that stuff. But my God. at some point, dude, you have to be able to figure out how to get this offense going.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Since two has gone out, this has been by far the worst offense in the NFL. They've averaged 10 points a game. And I would bet like a lot of those points were garbage time points after they're losing by a ton. And I think after coming out of a buy, going up against the Colts defense, they lost to the Colts 16 to 10, by the way.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Coming into this game with a bye week, two weeks to prepare, you got to figure out a way to get Tyree Kill and Jaylon and Law of the ball. Like, it's absolutely, I think it's like ridiculous. did they finish with? They had two combined catches for 19 yards, four total targets. And those were like late in the game. They both had zero targets at halftime.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Yeah. And it cost them functionally speaking three first round picks, or four almost for those two players. And I just don't understand how you can't scheme up plays for those guys. I get why. Hit the ball in their hands. I get why Mike McDaniel maybe struggled with adapting. And again, I think he struggled adapting this Dolphins offense to Tyler Huntley on the fly. And it was hard not to compare him to Matt Lafleur and the Lake Willis.
Starting point is 00:18:59 with the same situation. But for Mike McDaniel to come out of the buy against the Colts. The Colts defense is not good. You were unable to get tired. You pay Tyra Kill more than $30 million a year and you cannot get him
Starting point is 00:19:11 like multiple touches. It's just... I don't understand it. It's, yeah, his... And it's not just this week. Like, it's been a thing for multiple weeks in a row now. Like, figure out ways to get him involved somehow.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Do your point about being nice about feelings? Do you think that that's actually a really bad way to run a football team? Well, that's not the only way he does it. I mean, I think that's just like, an aspect of his coaching style, but like at this point, I'm worried, I'm worried about his scheming. You know what I mean? Like, how are you not able to get Tyree kill the ball? I feel like that's McDaniel's whole thing. Like, it's kind of like, now the tuxedars are kind of
Starting point is 00:19:40 fucked up. Like, I'm like, if he can't do this, what does he do? What is he good at? I think it, I look at the dolphins, it's tough. I think it's two things. I feel like he obviously had a bunch of stuff that was really cool last year with all, just everything to do with the speed and motion and really creating this whole offense around, you're going to run routes in quicker timing concepts that is possible because everyone you have is faster. But I think basic, I feel like in a nutshell, they built an incredibly specific roster, incredibly specific game plan around an incredibly fragile roster. And like, it's just this thing that really only worked for Tua.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Yeah. Around Tua. And then it's like, oh yeah, this offensive line sucks. Right. The dolphins are just like, I don't know. The way they spend money just makes no sense. And like frankly, Stephen Ross with the Dolphins, it's kind of similar to Woody Johnson with the Jets where old owner aging.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Like Stephen, Stephen Ross Donate's a ton of Michigan, got his Michigan championship, just throws a ton of money of the Dolphins, wants to Super Bowl. And they're just trying to, like, take shortcuts everywhere in terms of spending money, giving up draft picks. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:20:38 just a very poorly built roster by Chris Greer of the GM. And I don't know, it reflects a team that shouldn't, they try to take shortcuts to get here, and it's incredibly top heavy. So last year they scored 70 points in a game. And they finally got to 70 points six weeks into the season today.
Starting point is 00:20:55 God. I mean, they literally averaged 10 points over the last four games. 10 points a game. It's tough. Yeah. All right. Mike McDaniel's a loser. The other loser.
Starting point is 00:21:05 But two is coming back next week, apparently. So, yeah, we'll see. That's, should he? Why? I don't know. I want to know why he doesn't wear the guardian cap. Why wasn't he wearing a guardian cap? If two is doesn't come back wearing a guardian cap that's insane.
Starting point is 00:21:22 But I also think it's kind of insane to think that two is, might come back and get another concussion in November when the dolphins have been all but eliminated from the playoffs. I know it's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:34 you can't think about that one way, but I don't know how you, I don't know, coming, Tua coming back. They're like, oh, he wants Tua's back.
Starting point is 00:21:38 He's like, that's also probably a disaster. You know what happened? Two years ago, when he had the two concussions in one week, he came back, and he got another concussion in December.
Starting point is 00:21:46 And I'm like, Tua's probably, frankly, like, he's at such a risk of another one when he comes back. I'm like, just because he doesn't come back this season doesn't mean he has to retire.
Starting point is 00:21:53 If you want to play in the future, I'm like... That's not how they think. I know, but... Also, they're second in the division right now. I'm gonna say, weirdly enough, they are second in the east right now. The jets are worse,
Starting point is 00:22:03 the Patriots are awful. So, my loser for this week is the San Francisco 49ers. And honestly, this whole era of the Kyle Shannon and 49ers, I think it ended today. I'm not even kidding. The vibes are very bad.
Starting point is 00:22:15 The Chiefs beat the 49ers 28 to 18. And then I like the nine-st strategy of instead of blowing a double digit lead to the Chiefs in the fourth quarter. They never really had the lead for really any significant portion of the game. I like that strategy from Shanahan. Didn't work. I think just changed things up, you know? I really think to Shannon Niners Super Bowl window of this team is over. Like, I really feel that way. And I know, like, just physically, Debo Samuel 1 had no injury
Starting point is 00:22:40 designation coming in this game and like left two steps. He was sick. I don't know why it wasn't on the injury board of two snaps and he was too sick to play. Brandon Ayuk, we have no idea what happened to his knee, but like it seems like an ACHO team. I know what happened and it wasn't good. They're not supposed to bend that. that way. Yeah, John Jennings has heard, obviously McCaffrey's out. Things aren't great. Trent Williams went down late.
Starting point is 00:22:58 So all their good players. But then psycho- He got ejected. Oh, right. He got ejected. You know, I actually like that. I'm back. They're back.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Yeah, yeah. But am I being dramatic when I'm like, psychologically, I think this team throw it on the scrap people of all the other teams that lost Super Bowls that are now psychologically destroyed? Like, Mahomes trucking this Niners strong safety into the end zone. Like, it's over. That's crazy because that guy made such a sick play earlier in the game. Have you seen what that guy looks like when he has, like that guy is one of the strongest most ripped dudes in the league?
Starting point is 00:23:25 How did that even have it? He also tweeted after the game. He's like, I'm getting cooked. I don't know. I just, first of all, to that point, even in a game where Mahomes wasn't amazing, the idea that you add another layer to what you think about Mahomes. Have you ever thought of Mahomes being physical? I never have. And he trucked the safety in the end zone.
Starting point is 00:23:43 But also just, I keep thinking about Jason Kelsey talking last year about the Eagles being 10 and one. And he's like, we were just lumped around the building. miserable because we lost the Super Bowl is all we were thinking about when they were 10 and 1. You know it's not 10 and 1? The 9ers. The 9ers now have fallen 2.
Starting point is 00:23:57 They are 3 and 4 on the season, one game better than the Jets, who are one game better than the Patriots, and then the Niners, frankly, I don't know if they're going to make the playoffs, but I just look at this team. How do all the emotions not come out for all these people?
Starting point is 00:24:09 Like, think about all the... I mean, this is... Are you just signed this giant contract? Maybe it's out for the entire season. I don't know. Am I being dramatic? Like, I feel like this star is... It's just about...
Starting point is 00:24:19 Yeah, it's an imploding star, and now the 90s can be like a black hole. I feel like, you know, in movies where the main villain gets hurt, but it's like off screen and you can't really tell if they're dead or not. And I just want to be like, go pick up the gun and shoot them another 10 times, make sure they're dead because I don't believe that they're dead. They're definitely coming back and you're putting the gun down and you're like going about your day.
Starting point is 00:24:42 And it drives me insane. Like, that's how I feel about with the 49ers right now. Everything you're saying, I'm like, okay, but go and pick up the gun and like finish the job. up James Bond and gives like a 10-minute speech. I'm simply going to leave them here and assume they died. You know, it's like, I don't, I don't, I'm not, I'm not even close to saying the seem is dead yet
Starting point is 00:24:59 because they've got so much talent. They have been injured a lot, yes. And, but like Christian Cathay could come back. They still have Bosa. I like the Zag got to you. I don't know. I've just seen the Niners, like, hurt my feelings too many times to like really start dancing on their grave before they're actually gone.
Starting point is 00:25:16 But there's no shame. Obviously, the vibes are terrible right now. The vibes are really bad. bizarre conflicting report about Shanahan and Purdy talking for five minutes where someone's like, yeah, they had a nice conversation and shook hands. And then this other guy was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shanahan yelled at Purdy for five minutes and Purdy just sat there and took it, never seen anything like it.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Like, those are the two versions of the same conversation? I don't know. It's probably somewhere in the middle, let's be honest. If Kyle Shanahan was a friend, I feel like you would check in on him out of concern. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. You can tell. When people start changing their hair, that's when it's a problem.
Starting point is 00:25:44 You saw it with Siriani. You see it now with Shanahan's getting like the moor. It's creeping out the lettuce is coming out of the hat. it's a problem. It's a problem. Change your identity. It's the only thing he can control as his hair right now.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Who's your loser? The Texans and Stroud and whatever the hell happened today with the Texas. They only lost by two to the Packers, but it was much worse. Stroud was terrible,
Starting point is 00:26:06 probably in most regards of the worst game of his career. I wanted to do... 10 of 21 for 86 yards. I wanted to do the John Gruden of C.J. Stroud. For those of you don't know, go on TikTok and watch
Starting point is 00:26:19 John Gruden's clip about NFL quarterbacks. But then follow our TikTok at Rear and Fantasy Football and our Instagram at Ringer Fantasy Football. Right. But if you only could do one, Gruden. Ready? So here's what. He goes, C.J. Stroud. 10 for 21, 86 yards. Zero touchdown. Four sacks and a loss? Shredom Stratt. I couldn't do that. Breguerga! 86 yards! Can we get the music in the background? you could do that in free game.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Yeah. Don't be feeling nicey. You wait one more who. Who? So I think you're rowing a boat. The who comes like right when you don't expect it. Tankdale at zero catches. It was a nightmare for anybody who started a Texan, which was me.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I started Dalton Schultz. Tankdell. Stroud. Stroud. It was a mass. Straud. We've never done that on the show. No, we've been done that on the show.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I just got back from a bachelor party. All we did for three days was. Gus Johnson impression. Trowd, on the outside. Dude, I was telling these guys, part of, like, the draft prep or whatever, it's like... Part of the draft prep
Starting point is 00:27:32 and just involves watching cutups of these guys, and sometimes, if you can't find the all-22 of, like, one of the games, you just watch the game tape or whatever, and I'm just like, I can't take any more Gus Johnson. I know everyone loves him, but I'm just like... It's like 70 straight...
Starting point is 00:27:47 Stroud! Stroud! Like, it's just like, it just gets burned into my mind. There's nobody like that. Stroud. Stroud. Shrown. Shrown.
Starting point is 00:28:00 17 straight times. Oh, God. One more time. Strud. Nico Colin. Craig's definitely the best. We have to one day talk about the Hornets announcement. Oh yeah, what's that guy's name?
Starting point is 00:28:24 I love that guy. The Charlotte Hornets announcer. We're watching highlights of this guy at the NFL tracts and you guys were losing your shit. If you want to spend the best 10 minutes your life, stop this pod and go listen to Charlotte Hornets guys. Top three hardest I've left as an adult was Austin Gale showing us the Hornets announcer.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Who just... Austin, do you know his name? It's Eric Collins. Eric Collins. That guy's the best. He's the best announcer in the world. Hornets haven't been good in a decade. He doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:28:48 He's having the best day of his life. Full send everything. And he's such a good. Homer, like, other, when it's like the opponent team will shoot a three, he'll just be like, no! He's just like, doesn't care. Eric Collins, you're doing it right, unlike the Texans.
Starting point is 00:29:06 But Hyvitz, you've been on this for a while about Bobby Sloick kind of being on Fraud Watch. Oh, yeah. SBF Alert. Bobby Slowick, yeah. So, yeah, thank you for this segment. So we have now Fraud Watch presented by FTX. And Bobby Sloak, Bobby Sloak, who we were talking about as a head coach
Starting point is 00:29:21 candidate six months ago. I think he'll be fired at the end of the season. So Bobby Slowick, the offensive coordinator for the Texans, he got all this praise because C.J. Stroud was really good at football. And everyone's like, Bobby Sloak, look what he did. And he came from San Francisco. And he's like, you know, this mid-30s white guy who knows Kyle Shanhan. And they're like, well, his quarterback's good. He must be a head coach. And I'm like, meanwhile, Bobby Slovak, I actually think it's a pretty bad play caller. Like, I don't like any of his play calls. And he's frankly, very conservative for how good his team is and how good his
Starting point is 00:29:46 quarterback. To be, to be specific, he just runs on early downs, like every single time. She's never seen his first and second and long that he wanted to pass on. 100%. Never passes on early downs. People conflate young with new ideas, but in reality, Bobby Sloa coaches with the fear of youth. Like he coaches as someone who's afraid to fail.
Starting point is 00:30:09 And so he just does the most traditional conservative, hard to criticize internally in football thing, which is run and first establish the wrong for your young rookie quarterback, or young quarterback. But in reality, the offense sucks. And they're not doing anything creative. And they're not doing anything bold. In reality, so many of the teams that are having success, also, if you want to actually protect the young quarterback,
Starting point is 00:30:30 you want them to throw on first and 10. That's actually how you make their life easier and how you want to be running on like third and one or skip third down altogether. But no, frankly, I just think Bobby Sloick, like, I don't think anything about what he does is bold or particularly interesting, to be totally honest. No, it's the same stuff we were saying last week.
Starting point is 00:30:45 It's like Stroud has faced more third and longs than any other quarterback. And he, like, bails him out a lot of the time because he's so good. But this game, like, it all just kind of fell apart. He just didn't, he wasn't as sharp. There was drops. Tankdale dropped a touchdown in the first quarter. Imagine being C.J. Stroud last season, and every amazing Stroud moment we loved was him bailing them out,
Starting point is 00:31:04 as you just said on third and long. And they were like, man, that Bobby Sloick should be a head coach. You know what I mean? Yeah, not saying they were a fraudulent five and one, but five and two makes a lot more sense for them. And the game today was, if you just look at the box score, it was not nearly that close. They basically only scored any points because of Packers' turnovers.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Love threw a pick. There was a muff punt that the Texans were covered. Who almost scored zero points? Stroud. I can't do it. CJ Stroud. 10 for 21, 86 yards. I don't want the Grewd.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I want the guest chunks. Strow. All right, before we move on, we have to take one quick break. And I know there's a ton of political ads this cycle, but we do have to run one political ad on the show. Please bear with me. Russell Wilson claims he's Mr. Unlimited. Yet Russell Wilson has been limited for 10 straight practices.
Starting point is 00:32:03 More like Mr. Limited, but don't take my word for it. Take Mike Tomlins. No, he does not. Justin's legs are an X-factor. Every team Russell Wilson's left has been better without him. The Broncos hated Russell Wilson so much. They paid 85. million dollars just to get rid of him.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Russell Wilson, Dangerous for Pittsburgh. Paid for by friends of Justin Fields and the Ohio State Football Alumni Association. D.K., who is your Oppenheimer I Am Become Death Award for the player who went nuclear? I'm going to go with Brock Bowers. Wow. He's already like the best tight end in the NFL, seven weeks in. Well, Pitts. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Yeah, yeah. After Coppice. It's actually kind of back right now. We'll get to that. don't want to say it, but he's been really good lately. Browers had a casual 10 catches for 93 yards today. He leads tight ends and catches in yards this year, 47 for 477 yards. He only has one touchdown, or otherwise he would be like the runaway tight end one in fantasy.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Right now he's a tight end two behind Kittle, I believe, who scored a bunch of touchdowns. But I mean, just matching the eye test with what he's done so far. Like he has a 25% team target share. Austin pointed this out. Highest ever for a rookie tight end, weeks one through seven. So, like, what he's doing is unprecedented. I feel like we say that a lot, but it shouldn't lose any value. What he's doing is unprecedented because there's been a lot of, like,
Starting point is 00:33:36 really good rookie pass catchers, Puckinuku, Nuku, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, all these guys. But I feel like that shouldn't water it down. Like, what we're seeing from Brock Bowers is pretty sick. He's the focal point of the offense. He's like the Malik neighbors, but just for tight ends. Yeah, honestly, yeah. I mean, so Brock Bowers is on pace, I believe, to have the most catches of a rookie ever except for Pooka Nuku. and that's not a tie-in record
Starting point is 00:33:57 that's just a freaking that's a past catching record yeah last year he was he was like on pace to tie puka sorry last week I haven't checked it this week but I think after 10 catches
Starting point is 00:34:08 today he's probably doing fine yeah sometimes Bowers is easily the best tight end in fantasy going forward sometimes I feel bad for really good rookies on really bad teams because I'm like ah by the time the team gets good
Starting point is 00:34:17 you're going to be like four years into your career and like we're wasting so much valuable time with Malik neighbors and with that's why we have fantasy football Craig yeah I guess I guess so. I hope that fulfills Brock. Yeah. It doesn't. I can tell you right now.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I can tell you right now. From what I know of Brock, which is not a lot, but he doesn't talk a lot. He lives and breathes ball. All he cares about is football. It's probably not enough. Imagine Brock Bowers is like, you know what? At least I delivered for my fantasy guys. Maybe the Jets will trade for Brock Bowers.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Yeah, no, that would fix it. Yeah. My Oppenheimer is just the Lions. Yeah. Jemir Gibbs, number one running back on the day. I'm on Russell and Brown, the number one receiver on the day. and then so Gibbs had 116 yards two touchdowns. Amonra had 112 yards in a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Lions beat the Vikings 31 to 29. DK, I keep thinking now about what you said about the lions. The lions are the most aesthetically pleasing offense to watch in years. It's just like when you watch your offense, they're doing, it's like poetry in motion. There's guys like rolling out. It's throwing over the middle field and they're catching it without even slowing down whatsoever and just continuing to run.
Starting point is 00:35:21 It's like, it looks like a video game almost just because it's so, everything is so well orchestrated with them. And they have a combination of brute force and pure speed. And the play calling is always immaculate. Like, Jimmer Gibbs had this run today where he broke like three guys' ankles. It was crazy. Just like, you know, he does like a little hesitation move. And then he just cuts up field and the guy like runs past him.
Starting point is 00:35:45 He did that like two times on the same run. And golf was like incredible. We were like into the third quarter. He still hadn't had it in completion again. Yeah. I don't know. They're just like their offense clicks in so many different ways. Good offensive line.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Good skill players. I mean, David Montgomery had a fumble six today. That was like the one bad thing that happened. But otherwise, they're just so much fun to watch. They kind of feel a little bit like what the Niners have been the last two years. Yeah. Yeah. With like the kind of like the diversity of what they can do to you, they can kind of be grounded pound.
Starting point is 00:36:17 They could also air it out. They have like the yards after the catch guys. They play really hard. They're fast. and everything looks so smooth and easy. When it used to be like, oh my God, Purdy found Ayuk and there's nobody in the frame
Starting point is 00:36:31 except Brandon Ayuk. That's not what it's like with the Monroe St. Brown or Jameson Williams or whoever. So yeah, they seem like the new team that has it all. Also, the other thing that you pointed out today, Craig, is they have like the perfect skill player role players for the skilled positions.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Like somehow Tim Patrick ended up on this team and he's like always just making plays for them whenever they need one. He's their new Reynolds. Yeah, and Khalil, or Khalif Raymond, just tons of speed, kind of plays his role perfectly. They're like the sitcom that has like every type of character. They have the big bruising Sam Laforti tied in. They have the speed guys.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Jemir Gibbs at running back with his partner in Montgomery. You have Jameson & William's and slot merchant Amonra St. Brown. But they're all such different people. I think the lions are the easiest team to root for in professional sports in my entire life. A lot of them are good stories too, right? That's the thing. Like, they're all, like, Jared Goff cast aside by the Los Angeles Rams and immediately, like, cocked, basically. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:37:28 Matt Stafford just takes, oh, D.K. looks to Craig. Like, we should cut that from the show. But, like, Stafford takes the Rams. I have no problem with that. David Montgomery, I think, is incredibly easy to root for. Amon Ross St. Brown, like this, his dad's a world bodybuilding champion who grew up speaking, like, four languages. Like, it was a third round pick who can name 20 receivers taken ahead of him. Like, Sam Lippoor?
Starting point is 00:37:47 I think he's later than that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Four, right? Like, just every player on that. You mentioned Tim. Like just a random guy. Tim Patrick, like the fifth receiver on this team, fourth receiver,
Starting point is 00:37:56 just had, basically was this really, really low, drafted player on the Broncos who was given a contract extension and was supposed to be like, hey, you get to be a part of this team in 20. And then, like, gets Clay Thompson, like, ACL into an Achilles or Achilles in an ACL. And, like, four years later is now a role player and a Super Bowl contender. Like, there's so many, like, they have the characters, to your point of, like, if Netflix was making a show about a football team that won the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:38:21 It would be the Detroit Lions, led by Dan Campbell. Like, it's meathead tassau. Like, the whole thing, they're like, I don't know. They're so easy to root for. And also, Dan Campbell, the opposite of Bobby Slower, Dan Campbell doesn't coach scared. That's what I'm talking about. Like, they started this game going for a fake punt on fourth and seven.
Starting point is 00:38:38 And it didn't work, and it was a stupid play. Why would you have pre-stap motion on a fake punt? Like, everyone's just thinking what's going on. But you know what? They're not afraid of anything. And I respect that. Agreed. it's so over we're so back
Starting point is 00:38:54 Craig Anthony Richardson it might be over it might be over a couple stats from the day so they somehow beat the pathetic Dolphins 16 to 10 but it wasn't really because of anything the Colts are doing offensively
Starting point is 00:39:08 Anthony Richardson has had 10 or less completions and three of four starts this year oh my God I was just looking at his fantasy points from passing obviously he's a good runner but his fantasy points from passing He is second to last in the league per game of just fantasy points from passing. He's averaging six points a game
Starting point is 00:39:26 throwing the football in fantasy. Behind only Will Levis. He has the worst off-target percentage in the league. He is completing barely over half of his passes, 53% of his passes. The quarterbacks who have been below that mark through nine games of their careers since 2010, below 53.5% of their passes.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Deshaun Kaiser, Trace McSorley, Ryan Mallet. Remember him? 6-69. Malick Willis, Ryan Linley, shouts out SDSU, Jimmy Clawson, Tim Tebow, John Skelton, Blaine Gabbart, Josh Allen, Nathan Petterman,
Starting point is 00:39:59 Bricin, and Case Keenham. Do you guys remember Shaq? That's an all-time terrible list, except for Josh. We're playing a slot machine, hoping this guy turns into Josh Allen. Think of in your head, Shaq shooting free throws. That is what 53% looks like.
Starting point is 00:40:13 That's what Shaq was shooting. I will just say this about it. This is where I will defend Anthony Rich. Okay. What was his, DK, what was your, what was your comp
Starting point is 00:40:23 and a lot of people's comp for Anthony Richardson coming in the draft? It was Shaq. It was, yeah, yeah. It was, kill a nail.
Starting point is 00:40:28 So, I actually, I don't know. Josh Allen. Yeah, Josh Allen's from these users. I'll look it up,
Starting point is 00:40:35 but I, that sounds right. Josh Allen, Josh Allen, it's not, but, oh, yeah, didn't see coming
Starting point is 00:40:39 out of the draft. I didn't see Josh Allen entering his third season as being good NFL quarterback. Josh Allen, between year two and
Starting point is 00:40:44 year three, had the biggest jump in completion percentage for any quarterback ever. He went like 55% shack from the free throw line to almost 70% like almost leading the league on one of the highest records. One of the highest marks ever. And I'll say this. Richardson, this is Anthony Richardson's rookie year, functionally speaking. And to be totally honest, I think we can be concerned, but giving up on Richardson before 2026 is a huge mistake. They're not going to give up on him. And you can't. Like you said. No, the cults can.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Like they're, but we're we can. We can. Yeah. I mean, it does feel like we say this a lot, but like Josh Allen ruined a lot of quarterbacks and GM's brains because they're going to try to recapture that lightning in a bar. It's the one great comedian spawns 10,000. Yeah, and it's like we're not going to find a lot of Josh Allen's out there. So there's a decent chance at
Starting point is 00:41:30 three years from now. Anthony Richardson is still kind of doing this. Yeah. And everyone's like, wow, we're kind of a no man land right now because he's clearly so talented but he also sometimes like can't hit Michael Pittman on a three yard out. Yeah. DK., who, it's so over, we're so back. It's so over, we're so back. along those lines,
Starting point is 00:41:46 quarterbacks suck again. We had like a week or two of good offense. Quarterbacks were awful today. Yeah, Stroud. Is it over for quarterbacks? It's terrible when Stroud is bad. Yeah, wait, it's over for quarterbacks to you. Say it, commit.
Starting point is 00:42:01 No, it's not over. What's happening outside? Fireworks? Yeah, there's fireworks going on in L.A. right now. Dodgers, it's Dodgers. Oh, yeah, the Dodgers are going to the World Series. They're like 15 minutes from the stadium, so that makes sense. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Shows out to the Dodgers. Plucky team. Yeah, underdog story. Underdogs. I saw a tweet today. No one believe we can do it. Their star players making, what, $2 million a year? I saw it.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Impressive. I saw a tweet today about Yankees, Dodger, in the World Series. This is baseball is a great sport to introduce children to because it shows you that overtime, money and evil prevail. Great.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And they beat the Mets who actually had the highest payroll in the league. Yeah, can I also, I have to get in here with, I'm stepping on Lucille Bluth. I don't understand the stat line. I won't respond to it award. But I will just shout out Otani.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Lots of fireworks. There's so much fireworks. Oh, my God. They don't understand that some people record podcasts. How dare they? I'm going to give them a noise complaint. Are the Dodgers like outside? It's like, I don't know, parade.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Is Otani here? No, no. But Otani's less 23 at bats with runners in scoring position. He's like, O'Tonnie is 18 for 23 in runners in scoring position. So his average is 783. Not his OPS. Not his slugging percentage. His average with runners in scoring position is 7.83.
Starting point is 00:43:18 It's like, wouldn't that be the highest completion percentage in the league right now probably? He's better with runners and scoring. He's twice as good as running a scoring position as Anthony Richardson is complete passes, basically. It's like, peaking a baseball. Perry Bond's like fear factor. Yeah. And he pitches. He also pitches.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Will again. Do you guys? Yeah. How long, if you could live forever? How long? I plan to. I think he's drinking poppy. Yeah, that's why, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:44 That's the way he's worried about. I don't know what's going to be because of the popular. I think he's drinking raw milk. Raw milk. You're going to very... I tried it one time. Somebody on Instagram. Craig did a dance in the theater today.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And we posted it to our Instagram. Yeah. And so we posted it to our Instagram and was like, what is Craig celebrating right now? Someone posted raw milk sale. Dude, if I was a real head right there. That got me. Craig mentioned raw milk one time on the show.
Starting point is 00:44:09 The amount of doctors who emailed us. Craig, stop taking it. Don't do that, Craig. How long would it take you? though, if you could live at this age forever, how long would it take you to be as good at anything as Shioiataani as as at baseball? I'm pretty close right now
Starting point is 00:44:23 as a fantasy player, so a couple years maybe. Right? Yeah, yeah. Throwing paper balls into trash cans, I'm pretty late at. It's like, yeah, Sabrina I honestly, yeah. I don't think I could ever get as good at baseball. It might be never. You don't think you could ever get as good at baseball? No, I
Starting point is 00:44:38 couldn't get as the best player ever at baseball. No, I don't think so. Okay. If Babe Ruth stopped drinking, Which would have believed in me. Yeah. Coach didn't hate me. What's going to be one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:48 All right. Yeah. Everyone just needs to get a little more serious. We have to do, this is now a serious set. We have to do fart or shart. Oh, God. It's kind of a barrage of farts today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:00 A lot of fart. Craig, you want to take over the fart barrage right now? I don't have the list of the players. Who has that? Who has the farties? I'll pull up the farts. Yeah. So, D.K.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Mm-hmm. We need you to put on your serious analysis hat right now. We're going to do a little rapid fire farts here with a bunch of receivers. Fireworks of farts, if you will. Yeah, the fireworks of farts. And again, you know, Craig, you want to explain the fart or shart? I don't think we don't need to keep explaining it. I've been asked.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Look, sometimes when you have an upset stomach and you need to let one out, you don't know what it's going to be. Is it going to be a fart or is it going to be a shart? That's what we are asking today with some players' performance in week seven. Yeah, something you can get away with or something you can't get away with. Something we should be concerned about. Cortland Sutton for the Broncos Zero targets Zero targets
Starting point is 00:45:47 Zero catches today Fart or shart Thursday Fart Oh yeah Thursday Fart Fart He's like been
Starting point is 00:45:53 Their leading target Gitter in almost every other game He'll be fine Tankdale Houston Texans Today had four targets No catches And he dropped a touchdown
Starting point is 00:46:00 Fart or shart For Takedale That's a fart But it was really Big fart Like yeah Sloppy ones Yeah
Starting point is 00:46:07 I'm more like silent The Slice Someone I don't even know Where I saw this this all video. It was like some guy came up and farted and one of the top comment was, that's going to be itchy later.
Starting point is 00:46:19 That's going to hang around. This one, like Tink Dell, that's going to be itchy later. Okay. Yeah. It's like Jim from the office looking at the camera. Sorry. Okay. All right, Devonte Smith for the Eagles, two targets, one catch, negative one yards. I think there's nothing funnier than receivers later.
Starting point is 00:46:39 This one's closer to a sharp because if you look at his splits when A.J. Brown is playing, it's off. He's like the wide receiver 40, I think I saw when A.J. Brown is playing. And like a top 10 receiver when he's not playing. And as long as A.J. Brown is in there. Like, Hertz is going to be like, fuck it. He's down there somewhere.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I'm throwing it up to him. And this makes me worried for like DeVonte Smith and fantasy. Like I would feel worried starting him when A.J. Brown is playing. AJ Brown is Ricky Bobby and Devante Smith is Cal Norton. Yeah. Yeah. And as soon as Ricky's out, Cal's win and everything. But when he comes by, he's like, how are you win?
Starting point is 00:47:11 How am I going to win? He's like, yeah, you go right. I see your point, I see your point. All right, James Mulliams for the Lions, DK, one target, one catch, negative one yards. Fart or sheriff? I didn't see this play. How did he lose four yards on it?
Starting point is 00:47:21 Was it just like a backwards, or just like a swing pass or something? Yeah. That one's a fart. I think he'll be fine. He is, I think he's going to be like a more volatile player than like you probably want because there's just so many targets in this offense
Starting point is 00:47:36 and they have so many different ways to beat you. But I think there's more of a fart. So I think Devante Smith is the only real worrisome one here. Okay. So only one shart. All things considered. That's not bad.
Starting point is 00:47:48 All things considered, yeah. Now we're going to do a little nicey. For making me do this every week, guys. Yeah. I really love doing it. Yeah. The people need to know. I'm going to do a little new segment here.
Starting point is 00:47:58 And it's called, actually, Craig, you have to introduce it. These are the players that got us feeling really nicey. Sean Tucker, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Who is this guy? over 100 yards, 9.7 yards of carry. Rick Flair would love you. No, you got to do the... 18 for 18?
Starting point is 00:48:26 I couldn't do that in pre-game warm-ups. I just love it when a quarterback just shreds the defense. That's what gets me feeling really nicey. That specifically is what gets me feeling really nice. I just love it when a quarterback shredded the defense. He's kind of like a happy guy. Gilmore character. John Dr.
Starting point is 00:48:45 He's like a Chuckie doll. So tell me if I'm wrong. I think Austin actually told us this. His son is the one who made the music. Yeah, he's the artist, I think. And it was the name of the song Nisi. Yeah. Okay, I can't confirm that.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Is that right? Okay, Austin confirmed it. The song is called NICC. Because I was going to ask, where the fuck is NICC come from? Wait. The music he plays in the TikToks was made by his son? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Oh my God. The Gahmi really Nizzi. That's his son. Wait, the strength NFL coach or the one that has nothing going on? I'm going to guess the latter. Right. That makes
Starting point is 00:49:17 One's forcing You do that makes more sense In your basement Once I said it out loud I feel like Is that rhetorical or yeah As soon as it left my mouth I was like that
Starting point is 00:49:30 Probably not the guy coaching Yeah Probably football Oh my god I just wanted to You never know Yeah
Starting point is 00:49:37 Anyway I think got me feeling a nice ie Brian Thomas Receiver for the Jaguars Five catches 89 yards in a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:49:43 He's the number two receiver in full PPR today? He's good. In Craig's words, I've seen enough. I've seen enough. No, so he's legit. And again,
Starting point is 00:49:52 first of all, I can't believe this LSU team of Jaden Daniels and Malik neighbors and Brian Thomas is actually like the 1B to the Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Joe Barrow to 1A. Like, it's kind of nuts that they did this twice in five years.
Starting point is 00:50:04 But so Brian Tom is clearly the best receiver in the Jaguars. He's getting touchdowns where he's wide open. He's having contested catch deep touchdowns. He can kind of do everything. He's fast. He's long, like, you know, he's not like bully ball, like A.J. Brown and Nico Collins,
Starting point is 00:50:15 but he's like the thin version of that. He's so much fun. And then I couldn't believe this. This is, Austin sent me this. The only player is more yards per route run as a rookie in their first seven weeks. Or Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson and Pukinikua. And then it's Brian Thomas. Austin just like taking down the power grid again with these stats. Yeah, he's killing the amount of Amazon rainforest that's dying to get these stats to Earth.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Just the amount of processing power it takes to make all these lists. The amount of cobalt. Dude, that's a huge important mineral in the future of the world. It's like starting wars worldwide. All the Tesla batteries are cobalt, right? Oh, I don't know about that. But yeah, we need cobalt.
Starting point is 00:50:51 We do need cobalt. You know, I bet we're all experts on this. Let's talk about it. Yeah. That's kind of... China has a lot of coal. We're looking for more. I think we just found a bunch of lithium
Starting point is 00:51:01 under some farm in Pennsylvania. Is that right? We? I think. Well, we, the royal. The royal league. It's like, are we... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:09 We? We? I guess we fought off the royals. The Democratic Wii. D.K., who did you have for your nicey? Yeah. Can you do the grudence for us? It's got me feeling nicey.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Shredded. I love that part. Hold on. I got to full up his stats because I want to do the stats. What's the other sound he makes? Who? Yeah. It's like you're rowing a boat.
Starting point is 00:51:31 The song. The song has a who and he coordinates with it. Oh, that makes sense. He synchronizes with the who. 18 to 28? 207 yards, two touchdowns. Gino Smith. We're only doing this for Austin.
Starting point is 00:51:44 I'm just laughing in the back. No one listening likes this or knows what we're talking about. I know. I really urge you. You have to watch the video. We should actually just like put the video in the pod description. Yeah, we probably should. Intrusive thoughts.
Starting point is 00:51:58 That's all you're going to give me on Gino? We probably, oh. Well, that's all the Drewan does. He ruins the box scoring really loudly. That's true. Anyway, Gino Smith. We might end it. And then we'll move on.
Starting point is 00:52:08 All right, intrusive thoughts. My intrusive thought today was that. Jaden Daniels is a system quarterback, and I just watched Marcus Mariotto look like Randall Cunningham. What the hell is going on with the commanders? Dude, I was so nervous. I'm sure people who had Terry McLaren felt the same way. Jaden Daniels goes out, and I was like, well, we're back to what Terry McClorn's used to.
Starting point is 00:52:25 For a little bit, it felt like that, too. Totally. McClorn had three yards when Jane Daniels went down, he finished with 98. Dude. From Mariotta. Is it Cliff? So, I mean, I don't think so. What happened in Thailand?
Starting point is 00:52:38 I, dude, what? Thailand. All right. So this stat, if you just look at points per drive through seven weeks in the entire 21st century for teams, number one in points per drive through seven weeks is the 2000 Rams, the greatest show in turf rams, who had just won the Super Bowl. Is this another Austin stat? No, this is me.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Okay. I can also kill the rainforest. Number two, the number two points per drive is the 2007 New England Patriots that went 60 to no. Number three is this year's Washington commanders. What the hell? And then number four behind them is the 2018 chiefs, which, She's Mahomes' first year when he threw the 50 touchdowns. D.K., you're a smart guy.
Starting point is 00:53:13 What's going on? What's going on? It's not like the offensive line is amazing. It's not like the weapons are fantastic. And it was the, obviously, it was the Panthers today. And usually said the Panthers are like the worst team in football. But you know what? You've been seven weeks.
Starting point is 00:53:26 It's been seven games. That's the thing. Yeah. It's kind of crazy. Like what genuinely? Well, what's up? First off, I think most of this is Jane Daniels, like the first six weeks and, you know, whatever and change.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Because he left, what was it, after the first drive in this game. Yeah, early. With a rib injury. But like his, the first play, the first play from scrimmage is like,
Starting point is 00:53:45 rips off a 50-yard run. Like, you didn't think they practiced the, like, whatever scrape exchange or however they're planning on defending
Starting point is 00:53:53 the read option. Like, how does that, first play of the game, 50-yard, like, just really basic read-option run. We don't talk enough.
Starting point is 00:53:59 It's like wild. We don't talk enough how demoralizing it is for a team to do their bread and butter stuff immediately and it works perfectly. Yeah. You practice that all week.
Starting point is 00:54:06 They're like, we'll get like three or four on this and like moving down, ready to have like an easy second and third and short or whatever, and it's like 50 yards. It's like Boise State when Ashton Jentie takes the first run for like 80 yards.
Starting point is 00:54:18 You're like, what do you think they're gonna be? Truly. I think it's a combination of a few things. There's one guy's name on the bulletin board. Yeah, right? He's the guy that's standing there creepily behind the line. Like a psychopath.
Starting point is 00:54:33 It's like staring at you. But yeah, no, I think to answer your question, like earnestly, I think it's a combination of things. Number one, Jane Daniels is legit. He's passing all over the field. He's hitting all three levels, passing the middle of the field. He's unlocked their passing game. I think their
Starting point is 00:54:50 run game is really good. That's underrated part of this. Like, Brian Robinson has been on fire. I think the stuff they do with him and Echler is really smart. Obviously, what Jane Daniels brings to the run game with his legs is incredible what they're doing on third and fourth downs. Probably
Starting point is 00:55:06 not sustainable, but right now that's like why they're so good because they're converting on third and fourth down. So at such a high rate, like a historic rate. So I don't think it's sustainable for them to do what they're doing. Obviously, like blowing people out by 35 points every week. But, I mean, I think the different variables together makes this team a really good offense. And I don't know if, like, Cliff figured it out at some point or what. But I think his play Kong obviously has a little bit to do with it, too, like his sequencing and everything.
Starting point is 00:55:36 But it's weird. It's wild. I don't really know how to explain. My intrusive thought is that maybe blocking field goals is like the next untapped cheat code in the NFL. Like if people, the Steelers are flirting with greatness here, blocking kicks.
Starting point is 00:55:51 And they got called on a bullshit penalty today that should not have called. But they blocked another kick today. Two kicks. Two kicks. One got called back. But there's like there's like a handful of plays in the NFL that I still feel like there's that you can go another level to. You know, it's like figuring out onside kicks.
Starting point is 00:56:08 It's like the hook and ladder, which people are starting to flirt with. Two quarterbacks. You guys made fun of me when I said that in 40 years, like most offenses will have a second level of option built into it. It's like rugby. Literally the next day an offense was like college was running like a two quarterback. Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right.
Starting point is 00:56:23 I'm still skeptical about that. But maybe you're right. The hook and ladder I think is huge in being incorporated more. I think I still think like punting. I still don't understand why they just don't teach Anthony Richardson to punt. But the punters can't even kick. I can't get over that. You tell me Anthony Richardson can't punt?
Starting point is 00:56:40 He can just like 53% of the time. He can't tell me Jesus Christ couldn't hit a curveball. Come on. Not if it's from Otti. But yeah, it just feels like, you know, I just love it when a coach, like Andy Reid does this type of stuff where he's just like, I'm going to get good at something weird that like is usually a trick play.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I'm just going to make that a part of my offense now. Did you see the play they ran today? The chiefs? The chiefs, yeah. Went? This was a trick play. Like, I felt like there's a trick here. This was going to be my.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Lucille Bluth, I don't understand the play and I won't respond to it, but they had Patrick Mahomes next to Carson Wentz, more fireworks are going off. Next to Carson Wentz. It's like, God, you just won the World Series in 2020. Well, no one, if you win a World Series and no one shows up to the parade, did you win?
Starting point is 00:57:25 Did you win the whole series? Sorry, they had Patrick Mahomes in the backfield in a three-point stance, right next to him, which means hand in the dirt, right next to him Carson Wentz, hand in the dirt, and then I think on the left side, it was like Kelsey or somebody I can't remember who it was. No, it was Hunt.
Starting point is 00:57:42 And they ran like a weird like sort of like reverse play where they did like an inside handoff. One guy was going across the formation. Carson Wentz was running behind like a lead blocking Patrick Mahomes. I don't know they almost scored on it. It feels like something Shipwreck Kelly ran.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Yeah, 100%. I have a serious question. We don't think of Andy Reid this way. But when Andy Reid puts Carson Wentz in a three-point stance to score on the Niners. That's a fuck you to Kyle Shannon. That's so insulting.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Do you guys remember when they did the ring around the, like they caught in the huddle? Was it in the Super Bowl? They like all did a little circle? Was it in the Super Bowl when they did that? No, no. That was it in the Raiders? I want to say it was against the division opponent.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Was it the playoffs? I thought it was in this. I could be totally misdramering. No. No. We was, I think it was awesome. Is that the Raiders?
Starting point is 00:58:33 He's not paying attention. He doesn't know. He's not listening. Don't you think it's kind of cool that? He's running a search right now. He's on TikTok. Are Andy Reid and Spaggs the two combined age-oldest play colors in the league? Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:45 I actually think the sneakie-huge huge advantage for the Chief Spagnolo for it. What's it called age bias? If Steve Spagnolo was 40? Steve Spagnulo. Oh, everyone calls us Spagnola. It's Spagnolo. Brady called him Spagnolo. Brady is along with Jujster Smith and McCalleman.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Hartiman. He said Hardiman twice. Schuster Smith is harder to save than Schuster. The Schuster rolls off the tongue. How did you get to Schuster Smith? Brady. He clearly speaks exactly
Starting point is 00:59:15 like someone so hot, rich, famous, and successful. He's never had to learn a name in 10 years. He just knows numbers. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:59:21 he just knows numbers, yeah. I thought it was like Brady was the type of guy where he'd learn everybody's name at the start of the year. No, he learns a face and a number. You think he's going to learn a name? You don't think he was learning
Starting point is 00:59:29 the rookie's names in the locker room? I thought that was like the sign of a good leader. Dude, he just, he probably remembers a letter. The sign of a good leader is winning. Yeah. I don't think he'd learn I bet you he didn't learn
Starting point is 00:59:39 A lot of things They're just like oh We didn't have fun with Brady He's like oh I thought I didn't know Winning Super Bowls wasn't fun Sorry guys No but even David White
Starting point is 00:59:46 I think he called him D Like he probably remembers letters Like you got the letters In Juju mostly right Yeah But not the order You know Yeah
Starting point is 00:59:53 You know what honestly Steve Spagnulo What would say Everyone calls him Spagnolo And Hartiman Yeah he's adding a letter Brady's you know
Starting point is 01:00:00 He's a mess Also the not calling Ruffs out Really did get to me today because there was like a past interference panel that's questionable. And then Brady, like, said, he's like, oh, what did you think?
Starting point is 01:00:11 And like, like, he literally like, he had an opinion. He had an opinion, started talking. Remembered he can't say anything and throw it. I'm like, this is going to be so weird. I'm legally not allowed to comment on that. But what I was going to say was like, it's kind of funny that the oldest play call in their league
Starting point is 01:00:25 and like combine the two oldest play callers in the league are kind of like the ones who are the most frisky and take risk. We're talking about Bobby Sloick being 35 years old and being super, you know, safe. And yet Andy Reid, I'm sure it's like he's secure with his job. He knows he's not going to lose it. He can kind of like do whatever he wants.
Starting point is 01:00:40 But it is kind of cool to see a guy who's in his early, what, mid-60s Andy, Andy Reid is in. And he's just like having fun out there still. This is why I think the Chiefs have won the Super Bowl against the Niners. I think that Kyle Shannon is the new Andy, is Kyle Shannon is the new Andy Reid. Kyle Shannon's a genius but he's tortured because he doesn't really, I still
Starting point is 01:00:56 at the core, he has to figure something out. And Andy Reid just, you know, he made four straight NFC championship games and he had leave the Eagles, go to the Chiefs and he figured himself out. And there's a beauty in getting older to knowing who you are and knowing what you will and not put it. Well, no reason. Just gesturing to D.K. I'm just crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:13 He was, but I didn't notice. And now I do. Well, I'm just saying when you get old, you know what you want and what you don't want. You get older, not old. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying. But, like, Andy, there's a certain decisiveness to, like, actually Andy Reid knows how hard it is and we're not going to, like, we're going to go for it and forth and fourth and one. I'm going to do this.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Like, we're going to go and take this right now. And there's stuff that the Niners don't do. And I think that there's a professional. near-death experience that Andy Reid's had, that, like, there's a freedom to it. It's like, what's dead can never die? What is it? What is dead may never die? And that's kind of how they coach.
Starting point is 01:01:43 And there's still a fear, like this fear of failure the Niners live with. And, like, it's like a chain that, like a chain ball they're attached to. You know, you know what I always think of whenever Andy Reid pulls out one of these plays from his ass? Do you remember in the Waterboy, Henry Winkler? He's got, like, his, like, notebook of plays or whatever that the coach steals. I don't remember the exact plot. I haven't watched a movie in a little bit.
Starting point is 01:02:06 It's like he's got like all these plays. He's like a genius with all these plays. I'm like, this is like Andy Reed in the summer just like coming up with all these plays. Didn't he say like somebody on the staff at the stadium gave him a play that he ran? He's like a security guard.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Yeah, something like that. That's great. D.K. He's got good plays. Did you have an intrusive thought today? I did. I did have an intrusive thought. Fantasy football kind of sucks.
Starting point is 01:02:33 We're at that part of the year. Yeah. It is. I actually, so I was listening to Bill's pod, Bill Simmons pod the other day, and he said something that simultaneously made me laugh, but also, like, resonated really deeply.
Starting point is 01:02:44 It was something along lines, if I don't know the exact quote, it was like, fantasy football just continues to find new ways to make me feel bad about myself. And I was, like, thinking about it, I'm like, fantasy football can be, like, devastating, but, like, the part where it's like,
Starting point is 01:02:58 it makes me feel bad about myself, like, I'm stupid. Why did I not know? that fucking Jameson Williams was going to have negative four yards today you're an idiot. Why did you not know that? But I found myself thinking about that a lot today.
Starting point is 01:03:12 My first place team, I'm in a league as you know. I just sneak that in there. Well, wait. My first place team two players with zero points today and this is the league where if you get a zero,
Starting point is 01:03:24 you have to chug, you have to shotgun a beer. What? I want someone here to get two beers right now. Well, So you had two guys put up zeros? Andy Dalton had negative points because in our league
Starting point is 01:03:37 pick six counts as like extra bad. If we acquire two beers, which is shotgun here? Not right in this minute. Like in like 10 minutes? No. Okay. Just checking.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Maybe tomorrow. It's too much equipment. Too much like expensive equipment. We'll do that the office tomorrow with everybody. Yeah, yeah. I have 48 hours to do the, so my point is like now I have to like, I'm on a work trip.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Yeah. I'm a very professional, professional person. If it's, we're not getting a beer tonight. No, no, no, I'm saying write that down for tomorrow. Okay. And now I have to, like, worry about figuring out how I'm going to shotgun two beers. And I feel terrible about my...
Starting point is 01:04:10 Why do I start Andy Dalton? I think it's more... Why did you come over the shotgun rule? No, that's a good question. Yeah, Tankdell and Waddle and Stroud just killed you. Fantasy football sucks. Yeah, it does suck. Yeah, it does suck.
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Starting point is 01:05:09 All right best plays of the day The Bejan Robinson catch where he kind of caught it Like he was like doing ballet And then he immediately juke the guy out And it was kind of like incredible Mahomes is 33 yard scramble Where he basically like shoved Fred Warner
Starting point is 01:05:26 To the ground jukeed out their other guy Who thought he was going to go to bounds And then just ran to the goal line That's kind of like a loophole. He ran through a loophole. Did he really like fake going out or did he just stop and the other guy kept running? It's because players are afraid to hit quarterback swing out of bounds. If you watch the rest of the Niners in that play, they all like stopped as if he was running at a box.
Starting point is 01:05:43 I have an idea. Don't fucking stop. No, but they're, I mean it's the point is they're afraid they're going to get a penalty because they hit him at the sideline. He's mastered it, but it's still kind of annoying. It's like it's like the fakes, remember the Kenny Pickett fake slide? It's like, you know Hardin's like swipe through thing? it was like, yeah, technically that's legal. He figured it out. It's annoying, but it works.
Starting point is 01:06:02 And the average 35 points a game. It's kind of like that where it's like, all right, you found a loophole in the system right now and we need to fix that somehow, but it is working. I don't think this is some systemic issue. Can he pick it fake to slide? Mahomes ran to the sideline, stopped and kept going. To be honest, I feel like those are the same thing.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Faking the slide and faking going out of bounds. People like, almost get all the calls. Mahomes in week one at two feet on the ground and the ravens out of bounds got shoved to the ground and didn't get a flag. That's totally fair. That never happened. That's kind of the exception.
Starting point is 01:06:30 But that... I don't think it's like... I don't have any, like, big... It was sick. There's no, like, big takeaway. Other... I just think, yeah, like, they held up because they didn't want to get a penalty.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Idiots. That's all. No, that's fine. No, I get it. All right. Honestly, the best play of the weekend was Juan Sot to win the ALCS. Just get a threat out there. I know you guys...
Starting point is 01:06:51 Baseball, you guys are both just look at your laptops, hoping I've been watching baseball. I've been watching the playoffs. I actually didn't see that part of the game, but I did. see a clip. Very cool. Very cool.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Fourth series clinching extra innings home run with two outs in baseball history. Very cool. Wait, how does that say that again? In the playoffs,
Starting point is 01:07:08 extra innings, two outs, a home run to clinch it to end a series. Fourth ever. And that was right. Didn't the Guardians have another cool thing
Starting point is 01:07:18 where it was like two outs in the bottom of the ninth and they had a game time home run in game four? Yeah, and then they lost. But yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:25 So I also have to shout out that the Yankees did the literal George Costanza, and they literally asked to wear cotton from the episode. There's an episode of Seinfeld where George Costanza, who is, in case people don't know this, there's a whole plot of Seinfeld where George Costanza becomes the assistant general manager
Starting point is 01:07:38 for the Yankees, and he's like, the Yankees should wear cotton, and then they do, and they love it, and then they dry them, and they shrink, and the Yankees all came up, like, their pants all split on TV. That's such a Seinfeld thing. Yankees literally, the players, like, asked to wear the old school 70s cotton uniforms, and now they're just like the best team of baseball again.
Starting point is 01:07:55 So just thrown out. Shout out of Costanza. Pre- shrunk, though. All right. Worst play of the day. This is very easy. Fourth and two, 11 seconds left in the Dolphins Colts game.
Starting point is 01:08:04 They're down six. Tim Boyle throws 20 yards out of bounce. We're just doing this to torture Carlos. There's a giant white strip of like 10 yards wide outside the sideline and he didn't even hit that part and it was fourth and two. Just going to leave that one there.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Play it safe. And also the Jets coach dropping his challenge flag by accident and then it leading to a Jets touchdown. I think I have to throw that one out there as well. That was amazing. Those are bad plays. Arthur Smith Award for coach that pissed you off
Starting point is 01:08:29 We mentioned Bobby Sloick I mean the Texans just kind of settling for like a one point lead with 80 seconds left was just they deserved to lose just carmically And then also Gerard Mayo calling out Jalen Like the Patriots looking unprepared In all three phases of the ball in London
Starting point is 01:08:45 And then Gerard Mayo just decides to like call out Jalen Polk again You think that Mayo is going to make it the whole season If they continue on this track? Yes because it would look embarrassing to Bob Kraft that his not only handpicked successor the one that was written contractually and couldn't make it a full season. Like, Bob Crafts on too much of an ego tour to do that.
Starting point is 01:09:02 But this is why Bill Belichick never talked to the media. Yeah, he does keep saying things he doesn't need to say. Yeah, he's a talent. Should just like say less. I just feel like when your team is bad, you need to put it on you. It's never a good look when, like, if your team is good and you lose a close game and a player fucked up, you can be like, I need more for my team. When your team is good and they like you and they like you and they like you, and they
Starting point is 01:09:21 believe in you. And when you say something like that, it means something. When you're like one in five and terrible and you're a new coach saying that, stuff doesn't resonate the same way. Yeah, I'm not, I mean, I don't think I'm just like parroting Bill Simmons, and I think that I've disagreed enough with Bill's, you know, like Bill on his show. Having said that, uh, at the Spotify office, literally sitting in Bill Simmons's office, but Bill did have a perfect tweet about Gerard Mayo.
Starting point is 01:09:44 He said, hey Mayo. He like tagged him, didn't he? Yeah, he said, hey, Mayo, we need, so Geron Mayo said, Geron Mayer, basically. At Gerard. Yeah. Wake up. The Patriots. Also, Geron was the Patriots coach, by the way.
Starting point is 01:09:55 I hope you see this, actually. Geron Mayo said we need more from Jalen Polk. We need more concentration. It'll be a good player in the league. Just got to continue to work at it. Bill said, hey, Mayo, we actually need more from you. Why is your D worse every week? Why did Polk jump offside at a PAT to set up a two-point?
Starting point is 01:10:09 Did Jalen Polk jump off sides on an extra point to set up a two-point conversion? Did Jail and Polk give up a punt return touchdown? Did Polk call all those shitty run plays? You're only going to throwing shade at everyone else, including the previous coach. That's exactly right. Yeah. Like, it's really weird. The Pats are just, and I never realized until that tweet that Mayo really is just an extension of
Starting point is 01:10:26 the craft weird ego tour that they threw Belichick out of the bus, but it's weird. Can I sneak in an Arthur Smith award? Antonio Pierce kicking a field goal down eight with two minutes and 50 seconds left. I wrote down here, Antonio Pierce might end up winning the naming rights for this category at some point. This is the second, like, insanely cowardly decision.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Because earlier, I think it was like week one or two. They punted in... From like the 39. In the other team's territory. Yeah. Yeah. And didn't get the ball back or something. He just keeps having these like insanely conservative decisions. Like, come on. man. Like you're, what's your record right now? You suck. Yeah. Just roll for it.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Don't for a little little. Worst referee moment. I actually think this has nothing new at the NFL this weekend. Number one, the Texas Georgia game, where they the horrible pass interference call where if you didn't watch the game, basically there's a few boxes to check for the criteria
Starting point is 01:11:16 of past interference. They called on the defense. Zero of the criteria for past interference conceivably applied to the defense and all of them applied to the offense. And then it was a pick six. They called it on defense pulled it back. So one, awful season-shifting play for the entirety of college football. Then all the fans throw the bottles on the field. Like hundreds and hundreds of bottles. One kid threw a bottle and they'd have pulled off the field. And then all the, monkey see monkey
Starting point is 01:11:43 did with college kids. They all thrown on the field and then they have to stop the game. Steve Sarkisian, the Texas coach runs it as like pleading with them to stop. The refs take this like five minute break to huddle. And pick up all the bottles also. Pick up. They have to, well, all the, oh, no, My assistant does that. I'm saying. It took like 10 minutes. I know, but they had the Texas. All the staff usually gives the players one about it out to pick it up.
Starting point is 01:12:03 The refs huddle. And they're like, you know what? These drunk 19-year-olds might be right. And they reversed the call, which is the only time I've ever felt like, you morons, leave the call wrong. What are you doing? They like told all of college football fans in America, throw shit on the field if you were like a call.
Starting point is 01:12:21 It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. And there was no penalty for the fans acting that way. Yes. It would have been really funny if they were like undoing the call but 15 yards on you guys Yeah totally Like don't do that again here's your slap on the wrist No they were like you know what we'll just completely give you everything you want
Starting point is 01:12:37 In a way you could argue is the dumbest thing any rest have ever done Where they're like you know why you thrill that shit about us Fair I see your point I do that too Yeah Also we just have to shout that the refs You know as a long time New York Liberty fan
Starting point is 01:12:54 I kind of liked how the refs took the championship away from Minnesota and then gave it to New York. That was cool. That was cool. Yeah, they decided to not call the most egregious travel I've ever seen in my life and then a tiki-tack foul on. Was it Brianna Stewart?
Starting point is 01:13:11 Yeah, that was, I'm not going to lie. I've actually never watched like a playoff game that I was rooting for the... And I'm not going to pretend like I'm as big a Liberty fan as I am for the New York sports, but I was rooting for Liberty. And I won't pretend. I've never actually watched a playoff important game
Starting point is 01:13:24 where I was like, oh, we don't, this is bullshit. We're going to win this school, though. But like, this is fucked up. That was actually messed up. Yeah, tough for the reps. All right, we mentioned Lucille Bluth. I don't understand the stat line.
Starting point is 01:13:38 I won't respond to it. We mentioned the Otani thing. I also just want to shout out in that game. Sabrina, I call her Sabrina the Witch, but the true, Sabrina, I don't ask you, the true Kobe disciple. Oh, yeah, yeah. One for 19 to win the WMBA finals.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Shoot or shoot. One for 19. I respect it. A goldfish memory, right? Yeah. But you gotta do. Do you think she feels like a little bad? No, they won and she felt she was doing the thing like she was freaking out when she
Starting point is 01:14:04 won. She did like the Mutumbo RIP thing like laid in the paint like hold the ball. To be honest, I think I if I went one for 19 and my team won the championship, I think it wouldn't feel a little bit worse. You should get like a smaller ring. Yeah. I don't think I'd be able to just go home and be like, I'm a team player. Like whatever we won the game.
Starting point is 01:14:24 If I had like my worst shooting performance ever and everybody was pissed on me and everyone. That's probably the worst game she's ever played in her entire life. In terms of shooting, yeah. Yeah, well, she had the seven assists. It was, yeah, I mean, shooting, but her, you know, she's a score. Yeah. She's a whole thing. What would you do in that situation?
Starting point is 01:14:40 I like to stand on the side of the photo in case they want to crop you about. Can you even celebrate? I don't think I'd be able to like set that aside and just enjoy the moment with my teammates. I really don't. I think most athletes actually don't feel that way. Process-oriented. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Also just Sealk's cornerback, Tarik Wollen, streaming, put an Instagram up of him streaming watching like some game, he was, he discreeted some call,
Starting point is 01:15:03 but he just was not watching on anything like officially. He was on like meth streams. Illegal stream. And then they called him out on it. He's like, look, if it's free, it's for me.
Starting point is 01:15:12 I'm like, all right. I respect that. Burn book. So this is, we didn't daily double here. We did daily double. You found it. Daily double, daily triple,
Starting point is 01:15:22 Daly quadruple, because absolutely unanimous from almost unanimous from everyone contacting us in every platform, which you can email us from your fantasy football at Gmail.com, follows on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Unanimous. You're going to put me in the burn book? What? I thought you're going to put me in the burn book. I wasn't thinking of that, but now maybe. I actually,
Starting point is 01:15:42 I didn't know where that was going. I did creep into my head that you potentially you were going to say Danny Kelly for the Bambi thing. We'll get to that in a moment. I thought you were going to say Anthony Richardson,
Starting point is 01:15:50 but like maybe we should burn you. When you were just being very clearly on all platforms, it was unanimous. I was like, oh, God, here. Oh, no, no. I was going to say Anthony Richardson, but maybe we should burn you. I mean, I'll go in the burn book. Richard's just put Danny Kelly. Richardson, I have no problem with that.
Starting point is 01:16:08 I wanted to shout out, I guess if we had a unanimous, a couple of emails there, but, dude, Mahomes. At least Anthony Richardson is like, some people are like, yeah, we didn't really know if he was good. he was always a bit of a risk. It was kind of a coin flip. He was always a high volatility type of guy. Patrick Mahomes is the 23rd best quarterback in fantasy. 23rd.
Starting point is 01:16:29 It's crazy to think, like, oh, you should cut Mahomes. But the reality of the Chiefs thing is the Chiefs are a defensive team that wants to kind of run the ball a lot. And like they'll, I don't know, Mahomes, I don't know how many games I would be sure he's going to throw over 200 yards for the rest of the season. Are Chiefs fans mad at him at this?
Starting point is 01:16:49 point? No. He's six and oh. They're like the second... I know, which is wild. Yeah, no. I think they're like Mahomes is a wizard. Was that a Joker? Or she's mad at Patrick Mahomes? I don't know if any group of people's been less mad at anyone ever. Let's do a poll. Are you mad at Patrick Paul?
Starting point is 01:17:07 Why not? Chiefs fans only. If you're a chief fan, stop scrolling. I mean, like, in their heart of hearts, are they like, dude, come on, what's going on? I don't think you could find one. Oh, come on. That's not true. That's absolutely one.
Starting point is 01:17:19 true. I'm sure there's some guy. He's not one. We're too aligned on the defense. We're not going to be able to do it. No, not the team. He said Mahomes. Yeah, no, I know I can find one. Yeah, yeah. Do it. Well, look, 16 people voted for Bambi. There's got to be one that doesn't like Mahomes. All right, so we're putting poems in the burn book. So on the note. Wait, do we want to burn Mahomes or AR? I actually think you're right about Mahomes because you've been playing Mahomes and you took them high.
Starting point is 01:17:45 I think it's Mahomes. Richardson's been hurt. You probably picked up Flacco. He would. good for two weeks. You're right. Yeah, it's Patrick Mahomes. Because, like, you know why? You also have to hear about he's undefeated and the Chiefs are good. You're like, but he's killing my team. Mahomes isn't worse than Bo Nix. Yeah, fuck. Yeah, he's done. He's done. Cook him. You're in the burn book.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Has he really? Bo Nix is ahead of him right now. Bo Nix. Dude, I bet Drake May's ahead of him at this point. Oh, yeah, I would play Drake May. Bo Nix has been at, is averaging 14.7 a game. Mahomes 13. Oh, God. That's with the run. Come on. That's with the running. Yikes. On that note, though, we do have to address the controversy
Starting point is 01:18:20 from last week's episode where... Was it a controversy or was I just... It became one. Okay. So we had an argument. I don't know how we got into it at the end about who is the most famous cartoon ever. And Craig and I were saying,
Starting point is 01:18:31 Because I called him square pants. Because we were like right now. Who's the most famous cartoon right now? And then D.K. was like, SpongeBob is not more famous than... You call him Squarepants is not more famous than Bambi. Worldwide. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Right. Sure. The old vote is coming. in a clutch for my in my mind. But yeah. You have to be waiting for the mail-in ballots.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're slower, you know. They can't get off their ass and go to the polls. Yeah, so I'm not, no, yeah, Craig, what was the results of the Spotify poll we put out? I don't have it in front of me, but I remember it vividly. It was, Vividly.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Come on. So we, it was sick. We had 1,600 votes. Doesn't it's over! It was not like 16%. We had 16%. We had 16122 votes, I believe, total 1% voted for Bambi. So roughly,
Starting point is 01:19:15 you did the math, okay. So roughly 16. people voted for Bambi. We did put Mickey Mouse in the poll, which we shouldn't have done, because I think we all knew that Mickey Mouse is going to dominate. I thought we said that on the pod that we like knew Mickey Mouse. Mickey got 77% of the vote. I almost want to redo it. Let's not redo it. Um, Bugs Bunny also beat Bambi. So I want to just shout out quick. That's fair. There is a lot of emails. What mean that's fair? What? You're okay with Bugs? I was, I was purely, I was, I was, purely, I was, I was, I don't know why I landed on Bambi. I was just picking, like, the classic cartoons. This was D.K.'s Sunny, Sonny moment. I don't know
Starting point is 01:19:50 if there's ever been so much disagreement on anything that I have other than me saying stuff. It's not a sonny moment. It's the Mbop moment. Yeah, it's the Mbop moment. It is kind of similar to the Mbop moment and he still can't say it, by the way. Well, it's hard to start a sentence with mm. You have to like shut down for a second.
Starting point is 01:20:06 How would Gus Johnson do that? I can't Mm-hmm. What occurred? Mbop. Sandson. Bob. On stage.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Okay. One hit wonder. Yeah, we got a lot of emails. I also pulled my crew at the Bachelor Party I was just at. Yeah, again, like, I told this a bunch of 30-olds. A bunch of 30-olds will say that, but I'm going to take the L, I believe everyone. Our demo. James, we got an email that the subject line was, quote, I've never heard of Bambi.
Starting point is 01:20:44 And the entire email just was, I'm the entire. entire email was just, I'm 27. That's the whole subject of the email. I've never heard of baby. But like, you know, how many, a lot of people on Earth are under 30 years old. I know, but there's also a lot of old people. Yeah, not listening to this show. Probably that's, that's true.
Starting point is 01:21:00 They're waiting for the mail-in ballots. Where are we coming on the polls? You should start mailing out our polls for people. I'm going to do fucking like old school fantasy football. She'd pick them up in a car and drive them to this poll, yeah. This is clearly like a hanging chat issue, something going on. That I don't want to break the news to you. That is also super going to date you.
Starting point is 01:21:21 I've said many times I'm older than you guys on the show. I'm not trying to hide that. You know what the hanging chat thing was. I read about it. Literally I read about it in a book. I don't know. In a book. Tell me about it.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Teach me. Actually, I don't know. We're not. I'm pretty sure it was the Gore Bush election? Yes, there's 2000. Whatever. It doesn't matter. The only thing worse is me knowing this than you don't.
Starting point is 01:21:43 But so Chris emailed us and said, I had to pull over my car to write this email. That was just sneaky a lot. I know. That was like Indiana Jones getting the hat. This is what I have to work with. Chris said, I had to pull over my car to write this email. Bambi being as big as SpongeBob or Mickey Mouse is a crazy take.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Bambi's not even a top 10 Disney movie. Put it this way. In 2019, it was said that Spongebob had sold $13 billion in merch. How much Bambi merch is there? Well, that's also... Again, we're moving the goalpost here. I said he's more famous, not more popular. The infrastructure of merchandising now is a bit different than when Bambi came out.
Starting point is 01:22:22 All right, fine. Here's a better one. This is an amazing one. This is from Mickey. I got you. Fame. Yeah. This is from Mickey.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Mouse. Okay. Oh, yeah. No, Mickey. Do the Gus Johnson, Mickey. You're just saying, Mickey. Yeah, yeah. Just get a Mickey do that for.
Starting point is 01:22:35 I thought you wanted me to do Mickey Mouse. Like, ho-ho. That's a good announcer. This is Gus Johnson and Mickey Mouse. All I can do is, ho-ho. What else does he say? Does he have any lies? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:48 He's not that famous. See the catchphrase? I feel like, I mean, he was around when they literally didn't have sound or where they didn't have, you know, his only silent movies. Yeah. He'd be canceled now and he's anyway. Mickey? Oh, yeah. What did Mickey do?
Starting point is 01:22:59 Don't worry about it. No, that's fine. Don't worry about it. Somebody should make, that'd be a funny animated movie. Dirty Mickey. So Mickey, not Mickey Mouse. Mickey, I won't read their name because they didn't consent to that. But Mickey emailed in to say, so I highly doubt you guys realize this.
Starting point is 01:23:13 But in the week seven preview episode, you, you. answered your argument about the most popular cartoon character organically and inadvertently. Because earlier in the show, you all referenced Will Ferrell's scene in semi-pro when he keeps calling for the ball and throwing it back out. And later, D.K. states that Bambi is 100% the most popular cartoon character. Coincidentally, there is a scene in semi-pro where Will Ferrell's character, Jackie Moon, is talking to his team and talking about how he takes care of the team and says, I'm like Bambi's mom. I take care of you guys.
Starting point is 01:23:47 To which Andre 3,000's character replies, who the fuck is Bambi? No way. And the movie is set in 1970s. And the movie is set in 1976. That's awesome. That's pretty good. And then also,
Starting point is 01:24:06 he says, Mickey ends, I walked into a 7-Eleven while listening and they have a Coke Zero Sugar Oreo Slurpee. This bullshit has to stop. Slurpy. more fireworks yeah
Starting point is 01:24:17 yeah LA is going nuts right now that's pretty funny Andre T3 3000 thing who the fuck is Bampy we should watch maybe semi pro is one of the next
Starting point is 01:24:25 oh yeah the next movie episodes we do oh that's pretty good yeah I feel like it's underrated it didn't really like live on
Starting point is 01:24:30 in the Willfarel era it didn't it didn't stick as well I can't I honestly can't I honestly can't remember it that well me neither obviously
Starting point is 01:24:37 yeah we actually require but it's a high bar there's so many other good ones yeah you really need to hit all right fuck
Starting point is 01:24:43 You should probably get out of here. We actually have the Diet Coke Ores. Coke Zero. No, there's no Diet. Just Coke Zero Oreos. They're not Diet. They're not Coke Zero. I think they're just Coke Zero.
Starting point is 01:24:52 This Coke Zero. Coke Zero? I think so. Yeah. No, Coke Zero Oreas? They advertise on our show now. They're Coach Zero. Oh, wait, they're right there.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're right. Yeah, they're on the chair right there. I don't know. D.K., go get those. We'll figure it out. This is how advertising works. We don't even know.
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Starting point is 01:25:22 We get it. Yeah. That's important. Thank you, Kai. Wait, no. Thank you, D.K. and Craig. Thank you for putting up with me.
Starting point is 01:25:29 I actually really appreciate it. Okay. Thank you, Kyle and Carlis for this episode. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Rickter. Thank you, everyone for listening. Thank you. Email us more about the Bambi stuff.
Starting point is 01:25:39 I enjoyed being not the most wrong about something once in my life. Thank you, Lauren. Lord. Thank you, 311. Who's that? It's a band. You asked before this show. You said, do you guys have any bands?
Starting point is 01:25:53 You guys want me to shout out? Because you're like, you know, rightfully running out. And you said, and I said... It's been four years, five years. And I said Florence in the machine. Oh, right, right, right. And you look me in the eye and you're like, I forgot.
Starting point is 01:26:05 No. Not going to do that. Just because he wanted it. Yeah. Fair. That's petty. I get that. You could sense how this episode was going to go.
Starting point is 01:26:13 after that little little barb yeah exactly do you like flomo or no yeah i mean i'm not i wouldn't say i celebrate their entire collection okay but i'm aware of what i'm aware of it and i respect that she's doing it or they're doing it they're banned right
Starting point is 01:26:29 yeah florence yeah yeah is three eleven spelled 311 311 yeah oh oh never mind by the way i have no idea what 311 is yeah i'm like who is that
Starting point is 01:26:43 It's like a... Usually when we're doing this remotely, I kind of just like serapit, like, you know, suddenly Google it because I've no idea the fuck you're talking about it. They're like from the late, early 90s, something like that. Oh, Carlis just...
Starting point is 01:26:55 D.K., you messed up. Carlos just texted us and said that you should have shouted out John Gruden's son who got nothing going on. Yeah. Dude, that mute, can we outro with that music? It sounds like Flux Pavilion or something. So what's this guy's name?
Starting point is 01:27:12 Do we know? Who, John Gruden's son? Yeah, the guy making the music. I mean, as soon as something Gruden. Okay, I figured that. What are you doing here? He's got three sons, Deuce, Michael, and wait, hold on. The other son's name is Jason with a Watt.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Oh, Jason. Austin texts. DJ Hex. DJ Hex. DJ Hex. Dude, wait, no, DJ. DJ. Yeah, I see him.
Starting point is 01:27:38 He's on SoundCloud. Which one? It's not, is it, is it, to do you, this is the? Which one is the DJ Gruden? What is happening here? It's not that hard to find things on the internet. But Duke Grudence the... Well, because he's...
Starting point is 01:27:53 Shut up, dude, I found it. Haxt. Haxed. 18,000 monthly listeners. This is not his most popular song. It will be soon. Are we sure this is John Gruden's son? I don't think this is John Gruden's son.
Starting point is 01:28:06 It is. Craig's confident. I'm pulling a Bill Simmons, just pointing out the... iPad on the rewatchables. This, oh, I didn't even really know there was a whole other part. I don't think this is the song. Yeah, it is. You can tell.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Yeah. Oh. There it is. Oh, yeah. But it is. It does feel faster or different in some way. Yeah, that. Oh, I recognize that, I think.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Yeah. There it is. That's the one. There it is. What he's like. Yeah. More Stroud. You mean more
Starting point is 01:28:52 Gus? Gus, Gus, Stroud Straub! On the outside! It's like the Simpsons thing, the meme where they're like Do the thing far. It's like with a cheesekin of Xavier Worthy, the ball and it ended up. They're like, do the fast thing. Do the fast thing. Touchdown!
Starting point is 01:29:11 Texans. throws it up. Tows it up. Strat. Strat. Strat. Strat. It's like every time he like drops back.
Starting point is 01:29:24 I like always like it. I like when it's like a kick returner and he's like starting to make a little bit of room. It's like Watson. Fines a hole. Watson finds a scene. There was a moment in Sunday night football today when I think it was like they had the referee expert guy come on and do like explanation and then Tariko's like, thanks. It was like literally in the same
Starting point is 01:29:55 cadence and tone as like if you were like, hey, hey man, can you hand me those keys? So Mike, because the second foot did not appear to go down, it does not look like this will be a catch and this call should stand. Thanks. All right, and it was just so like dismissive. Yeah, thanks.
Starting point is 01:30:12 You throw me my keys? Thanks. Thanks. Hey, can I get by you? Thanks. It was like the same exact tone and like feel to it, the motive. Thanks. Thanks.
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