The Ringer NFL Show - Week 7 Recap: Dart or Shart, Mahomes Cooking With Rice, Wagon Colts, and Craig Made Us Bread

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

The guys recap all of the NFL Week 7 action by going through categories such as Winners and Losers, Fart or Shart, Intrusive Thoughts, and so much more. (0:00) Intro (1:21) ‘Sunday Night Football���: Falcons-49ers (3:43) Winners and Losers (35:37) Who’s Cooking? (56:25) It’s So Over. We’re So Back. (01:16:56) Fart or Shart (01:22:46) Intrusive Thoughts (01:31:10) Play of the Day (01:35:57) The WORST Play of the Day (01:42:11) Fantasy Burn Book (01:43:13) The boys break bread Check out our 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here!  Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

the ringer fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hyfitts, and I am joined in person in Los Angeles, baby. My daddy Kelly and Craig Rollback, we are going to go over all the games from Sunday of week seven, starting with Niners Falcons. Honestly, we were actually more locked in

on Mariners, Blue Jays. Game 6, so you're on Game 7, D.K., how are you back into baseball? Fairweather fan, back in baseball. Back on the bandwagon. Very nervous for game 7, but it's also going to be awesome. You know, opportunity to playing game 7

to go to the world. series? Hell yeah. Take that every day. You're being a motivational speaker to yourself. You are actually like a ball anxiety. No, 100%. This was like in our group chat. Like this is our cope. Like if you told me before the year that we could do a game 7 to get to the World Series and I'm

going to say I'm sad about what happened today. No. I mean, I'm very sad about what happened today. The second in the game ended, DK was like, turn it off. Shut off the screen. Yeah. But anyways, exciting. Same stuff. Yes. I think we're going to

have a lot to talk about with the Mariners later this week. So, good or bad. Sunday football, it's fine. Natives 1.2010. Ugly game. It was ugly. Yeah. I mean, McCaffrey, Mike Tariko, just dubbed it National Running Back Day at the end. Whatever. But McCaffrey was awesome.

Bejohn's good. I have a I just, I did have one intrusive thought about he's good. He's good at football. He's good. You're right. I had an intrusive thought about Bejohn during this game where it reminds me a lot of the, the Otani that person, the tweet that went viral of just when it was like,

the person was like, I feel like every LA Angels game is, Mike Trout hit four hits to raise his average to 528, and then Shahe Atani had did something that hasn't been done since tungsten Armad Doyle in 1921 as the Angels lost to the Tigers five to three. Every Falcons game is kind of like, Bejohn Robinson had 180 yards from scrimmage

and he has the best juke that's ever been seen as Drake London had 13 catches and the Falcons lost 20 to 10. And then Bijon wasn't in the game on the most crucial fourth and one. They had Bijon looked awesome today. He had 10 points. Yeah. Like there's just a weird dichotomy between how talented they are and how many yards and first downs and points they were able to accrue.

Yeah. That's all. I feel like this was a Robert Sala master class tonight. I mean, they blitz the shit out of Pennix. He was uncomfortable the whole night. Pennix doesn't have great pocket awareness, I got to say. Dude, the amount of hits he took to his surgically repaired knees in the final. like one minute of garbage time was like give me anxiety.

It feels like if he's not in rhythm, it gets sloppy quick. That's what I was thinking during the game too. In a way, he kind of reminds you of Tua where if the first couple seconds of the play, no, besides the left-handed thing, if the first couple seconds of the play don't go right and he doesn't get hit hit his back foot and get the ball out, that's where things really fall apart and break down. So he definitely showed some limitations there. But yeah, the 49ers defense was a really good.

McCaffrey went bonkers. He was just everywhere in this game. I think he had over 200 scrimmage yards. He had 31 touches for over 200 yards, two touchdowns. And it's funny. McCaffrey definitely looks like he's in a different phase of his career, but they're giving him the ball like he's in the full prime of his career. Like he does not look as fast as Twitch.

He's still fantastic. He's still probably like one of the seven best running backs in the league. But they're still just feeding the absolute shit out of him. He was the number one running back in the day. He passed Jonathan Taylor is the number one fantasy running back today. Cal Shanham can't have himself. But let's, The game wasn't that good.

I think we can just go to winners or losers. I'm surprised you're so eager to get to this. Do you want to do winner or loser? Let's just get it over. Let's just get it over. Let's just get it over. But what's crazy about that game, we're talking about the Giants Broncos game,

is that it was so in the bag that we literally already wrote down Winner New York Giants. I wrote down Winner New York Giants. I wrote it down. Yeah. The win probability chart looks like a staircase

that just goes to a hallway. like levels, levels, levels, and it just flattens, like it just like a hallway, and then it just craters, like it was like Black Monday in the stock market. Like, it just like... There was a point in the third quarter, I believe it was 19 to nothing.

The Giants had a 98% win probability. 99% win probability. And then the Broncos scored 33 points in the fourth quarter. Yeah, it just goes to show. 33 points. You know, when you say it out loud, it's unbelievable.

Craig has a whole bunch of good stats on this. I've read that, but I haven't heard someone say that out loud yet. Bonex had four touchdowns and two extra points in the fourth quarter. Yeah. There was a point in the game where it was like a game break, and it was when Theo Johnson caught that ridiculous. It was tipped off Wandault. And he ran and scored.

And the guy was like, the announcer was like, everything's coming up. New York football Giants. And I was like, wow, it really is. What a great day for the Giants. Since that moment, I, so I'll just go through it because it was crazy. I actually sat in like a masochist. I rewatched like the entire fourth quarter because I just was like,

what happened? And I just, you know, my main takeaway was I kept waiting for the Broncos to score. And we keep saying, oh, the fourth quarter. But like,

it was 26 to 8. Yeah. With, uh, like I wrote down. I was like, oh, it's like 26 to 8 with 10 minutes left.

And I'm like, seven minutes left. It's still 26 to 8. Like five and a half minutes left. Still 26 to 8. And I'm like, oh. my God, it was worse than I realized.

Like, it was worth... They was up 20... Yeah, I was... I... I fucked football. This is the worst. I... I wish I could be a better host right now. This was one of the more hurtful loss.

It's weird because the Giants aren't that good and, like, obviously aren't going to, like, win the Super Bowl or anything. But this... Dude, they had this game in the bag. Dude, I was like, this team's gonna win the NFC East. This is one of the worst... I think I took me, like, an hour after the game.

until I realized, like, this is one of the worst. People will remember this for years. It's a, I mean, I mean, I can get into some stats to show why this was so historic. 33 points the Bronco scored in the fourth quarter, which is the second most points scored in the fourth quarter ever. The most was 34, only one point more by the Detroit Lions against the Bears in 07. No team ever was ever shut out, and then that scored that many points in the fourth quarter. Bonix is the first player in NFL history to record two plus passing touchdowns and

two plus rushing touchdowns in one quarter. Plus he had two points. Say that one again. Nick is the first player in NFL history to have two plus passing touchdowns and two plus rushing touchdowns in one quarter. He basically had the Clay Thompson 37 in a quarter. Oh my God. Oh my God, he did. NFL teams had won 1,600 and two straight games when leading by 18 plus points in the final

six minutes. How many? 1,6002. Oh my God. So 1,600? Yeah. Straight. when leading by 18 plus in the final six minutes.

This is so much more. This was like in an all-time class. Because three scores in the final six minutes. I don't know if people expect me to be screaming right. I mean, we were not saying the obvious part. The Giants lost this game by one point in a game they missed two extra points. It kind of is two extra points. It kind of does just come down to that.

And so it does come down to that. But it is, that is more complicated than it seems. The other thing I'll say, re-watching it, the kicker's going to take all the flack, and he should take most of the flack. Jackson Dart threw an interception on third and five with like three minutes left or five minutes left in the game. And there's no chance that Broncos win this game if that doesn't happen.

Also, the defense gave out 33 points in the fourth quarter. We're going to blame the kicker? I'm not going to blame the kicker. You know what? I am going to blame the kicker. The fucker missed two extra points. What is your job? Yeah, well, I am going to blame it.

He missed two extra points. What about the defense giving up a historic amount of points? Shane Bowen, their blame does, it's more complicated than the seams. The kicker. Part of me is kind of like, you know what? He missed two extra points. It is as simple as that. And they lost by one.

I will say this, though. It's actually not entirely the kickers' fault. Because the Giants have, I've weirdly, Giants fans know this. The Giants have really mismanaged the backup kicker spot for two years. Graham Gano is the kicker. I'd never heard of this guy, by the way. Yeah, so this new, June McAtenney. Yeah, he won't be on the team much longer.

Yeah. Poor guy. Graham Gano Not going to be working here anymore Yeah Does everyone love that one Graham Gano Sorry I'm just really mean

I'm just in a bad mood Graham Gano gets hurt a lot And the Giants have like I'm not exaggerating Lost three games In the last two years Because they mismanaged Graham Gano's injuries

Do you remember last year With Washington Yeah He got hurt in the middle of the week And then they didn't have a backup kicker and he pulled his groin during the warmups And they didn't have a backup kicker

And so they lost to Washington 18 Or 2118 because they didn't have a fucking kicker And it's like Your kicker was hurt And you didn't have a backup And then they, so like this week, so he's been on this team for like three weeks, I think. I didn't know this, but Bobby Skinner at Talking Giants Nailed this.

This guy was the backup kicker at Rutgers. He was on the roster because they have an international roster exemption for him. He's from Northern Ireland. Dable hates using roster spots on kickers. Dude, I watch today, today. He's cutting corners on. No, I'm serious. They lost the game last year to Washington because of this.

He's like taking fucking coupons for his. I know this sounds dumb to harp on, but the Packers today, I watch their backup kicker hit a 61-yard field goal that looked like it could have gone for 66. Other teams around the league have fit. The bills signed a backup kicker three days earlier on week one. And he made, like fucking Matt Prater, they called him out of retirement. Like teams, like how many teams have found a backup kicker this year? Like six?

They've been fine. The Giants are the only one who relied on a guy who couldn't get the starting jump at Rutgers, which is the worst team in the history of college football. He couldn't start there. So why is he on the team making this thing? So yes, it is his fault. It's also Joe Shane and Brian Dable's fault that this guy's the fucking kicker. And Jackson Dart threw an interception on third and five.

So instead of punting it and putting the ball in their own 20, pending them inside the 20, they got the ball at the 20. So that the defense, they spiked the ball two seconds at the end. There was like no, sorry, I'm ranting. There's no chance that the Giants, even if they just made them drive 70 yards instead of 18, they would have ran at a time. and Shane Bowen had three men, didn't rush four in the final drive,

which was also doing. Fuck! Couple rebuttals. One. Fuck. This sucks. Who was the starting kicker at Rutgers? Where's he?

I don't know. What's that guy up to? Is he not in the league? I don't know. How is the backup in the league? He's got a sick insurance job. I know this is a weird thing, the Giants have mismanaged their end of roster.

They don't sign got, they don't fill their roster. I don't know if it's a money thing, but the Giants, like the Saints game. The Giants lost the, same game for a lot of reasons. I know this is a weird thing, but this is like their job for Daibble and Shane. The Giants had four receivers active for the Saints game. So when Darius Slateon got hurt, they had three receivers. So you're running a two-minute drill. No one can come

out of the game. So when you send everyone on verts, on vertical routes, first down, anulty, first down again, second down, they just ran 300 yards. They're tired. There's no subs. They lost that game because Daiblen's Shane like the back end of like 46 to 53 man roster has cost, this is a really boring way to have this conversation. You guys are like fuck this is the most boring. But I'm just saying that's but also

he should make the fucking kick it's an extra point. Relax. Sorry. The dart interception Yeah. I'm kind of like all right he threw one pick against Denver and he's a rookie. He's like a fourth game. But it's the situation. I understand that. It's third and five with five minutes left. The only

thing you can't do is turn the ball over. I know. Punt the ball and they win. You got to bake a little bit that in. You got to have a give him a longer leave. He's like, it's fourth game. He played great and other than the last drive. Ironically, the worst drive. He threw three interceptions that didn't get caught in the last drive.

The worst drive Dard had in the whole game was the one where he got the touchdown to win. Because DART in that one, he should have had three interceptions on that drive. And the Broncos kept, the other thing was, I kept wondering, I can't believe the Broncos. like five minutes and 20 seconds left. And I'm like, you're telling me they get like four more possessions in this game. I just couldn't. It really was a, dude, as my grandmother would say, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This was the all-time version of that, yeah. I think it took me a long time to realize that this is basically like Falcons 28 to 3, like just in a random regular season game. Are you able to be at a point where you can look at this game and think, I'm able to see the positives in this, like what the defensive line can do, what DART is capable of, and like where the future of this team is going?

Or are you like, no, fuck that terrible loss? It's annoying, but realistically, you're on the road against the best defense in the league. Vives killing loss, maybe? It's, uh, I don't know if it's such a good win. It's, look, maybe it's, I don't know.

I don't know. The annoying football cliche truth is it's interesting to see how people respond to things and like how DART and Scataboo and everything. It's cool to like, you know, do your little poses when you're winning, but it's important to see how people respond to adversity.

and like that's interesting. The one thing I'll say about just where the Giants are going and then we can get off this or you guys can make fun of me, the Giants clearly do have some good players. Like Dart, Scataboo, Andrew Thomas at left tackle, Malik Neighbors, and then you have Dexter Lawrence that D Tackle was as good as anyone in the league. The whole line.

Yeah, Kavon Tibado, who's probably going to leave it to the season, but it's fine. Brian Burns and Abdul Carter, who had a concussion today, and then if you look at you, Drew Phillips, who had a tough day, but I love Drew Phillips, Tyler Nubin, Cordell Flott. All of those guys are 27 or under. so even Dexter Lawrence Andrew Thomas

they're all 27 to 22 so I actually I actually think the Giants have a weirdly good core they have the backs the cornerbacks like everybody else in the NFL made by cornerbacks should be said Craig was mentioning this during the game he was just like

the guys that Jackson Dart is throwing to him Bo Collins he's like giving him jump balls or two like double coverage to Bo Collins it's why I'm like Daniel Belanger was like making big plays So anyway, this was the stupidest fucking game.

I actually... It really was, like, High Fitz looked at me at one point and was like, this is like a really bad loss, huh? And I, yeah, I was like, yeah, this is a pretty remarkable collapse. This is really like, maybe top five collapses I've ever seen in a game. Maybe. If I wasn't here, what would you get to say? What, how bad?

Yeah, was it that bad. We tell me how bad it was. Okay, it's what you said. Stripped of context, it might be like number two. but strip context if you strip context it's as number one

as big as anyone I don't know so nobody had ever been shut out in three quarters to scored 30 in the fourth that had never happened dude

1,600 straight games 3,000 100 games they were up by three scores in the final six minutes it was an epic class

to be clear and it is 16 game season that would be 1,000 no 100 16 game seasons That's pretty bad That's right

Oh, all right This was a hundred year storm Yeah Shit storm Oh my God It was tough So I think the Giants Were a loser today

Yeah that's fair to say Yeah That's anyway Let's go to winners I'm gonna give my winner I actually have two I'm gonna start with the Colts and Jonathan Taylor

America's team Indiana Jones Colts are an absolute wagon Once again I'm upset We didn't bet the Colts In Ringer 107 We did? Did we?

Yes Oh, hell yeah. Nice. Oh, yeah, we're three in one right now, right? There you go. All right, cool. You wouldn't have let us not necessarily. Okay, good, yeah.

Also, as a Giants fan, it was before the Giants blew it, when it was like, again, 268, and the Giants are kind of rock in Denver, and the Daniel Jones is just destroying the charges. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah. Like, it's so, like, the idea that the Jones split for that brief moment in time,

I was like, this worked out great for, Everybody. Totally. Yeah, dude. Jones, Jonathan Taylor, Jonathan Taylor's having, right now, through seven weeks, the third best fantasy running back season in 15 years.

It was Christian McCaffrey, 2019, on the Panthers, Gurley, 2018 on the Rams. And then Jonathan Taylor this year. This was his third game with three touchdowns this year. Three hat tricks. Three hat tricks in seven games.

Pretty much every other game he has three touchdowns. That's ridiculous. Which is ridiculous. And then there's the Colts in general. I saw this stat. I found this staff. The Colter averaging the most points per drive of any team in the 21st century.

Yeah. Well, like, pretty much any... No, more than the 07 patrons? They're basically averaging 3 and a half points per drive. When you say wagon, it's like, that's understating it. They're also so balanced. I feel like some of those teams were like crazy passing offenses.

I mean, obviously they could all run, but like 2013 Broncos was Peyton and like 07 Patriots was Brady and the 2018 Chiefs was Mahomes. like, is anyone, how are we going to explain this or what? Also, they're so balanced. The rushing, their top, they're up there with rushing first down, passing first down, success rate, whatever. Like, they just, they're super balanced scene.

They might be taking the belt for me right now for the most aesthetically pleasing offense to watch. They are the spur. In the NFL, yeah, like the way that they utilize motion, both before and after the snap, one thing they love to do is they get guys on like levels concepts to either side of the ball where they've got like three guys running.

So one guy's short, one guy's medium, one guy's deep. Golden locks, yeah. And then he can like dump it off to whatever guy. They have so much good misdirection

where guys are running back behind the line of scrimmage at the snap. Yeah. Keeping the defense on their heels at all times. Daniel Jones has been incredibly good at just getting the ball to his playmakers and letting them do their thing. Tyler Warren looks like an elite tight end right away in the NFL.

Michael Pittman's still really good. they have role players who will just do their job pretty much every time Alex Pierce is just every time he goes deep I know it's crazy First of all it's funny you mention the level thing Taylor Because it's funny to see all the Daniel Jones Colts

stats that like he's better than like the You know It hasn't been done since Peyton in 2004 or whatever And it's funny because I mean Peyton Manning offense levels was like The whole fucking thing They ran like 25 plays or whatever And like every thing you remember

From the cults was basically that play Or that concept rather but the Colts in a way remind me of like a good soup where like you know a soup has to get itself together like if you have soup it's actually better the next day or the day you know it's gonna chilly it's got it's actually it has to gel and vibe and this Colts team kind of reminds me of in a weird way you know exactly what I'm saying though doesn't sound super

has to get itself together like a team It's a three day old soup yeah no but my point being That's exactly what I'm looking at but my point being it's kind of in a weird way It's like soup yeah it reminds me like the bucking carrots Mushy carrots no but the buccaneer is getting braided where this Buccaneers team from like 16 to 2020, you were kind of like, where is this going? They had James and everything.

And then Brady steps in and suddenly everyone just, you were like, oh, like, all of this makes sense. This offensive line's good and like Evans and Godwin and the defense at Bowles. And everyone was like really weirdly well placed and nobody knew it until Brady walked into the door. And I'm not saying Daniel Jones is that, but something about this like seven-year Odyssey

since Andrew Luck where they had the seven starters, less seven seasons and five, like, you know, Wentz and Rivers and Matt Ryan and all these guys. And then like Daniel Jones, for whatever reason, all these, everything is gel. Everything Chris Ballard, the GM has done this whole time, is just weirdly jelled. To follow up to that,

speaking of Ballard, I saw a ridiculous stat today. They were talking about this on the broadcast, and I went and checked, and the amount of homegrown guys that the Colts have on their roster, particularly their offense, this is what they said on the broadcast. 96% of the Colts scrimmage yards heading into Week 7 came from homegrown players.

96% of their scrimmage yards. Michael Pittman, Alan Pierce. Tyler Warren, Jonathan Taylor. I think that's been... Josh Downs. Colts fans could maybe quibble with this, I think. But I feel like it's been sort of a point of contention over the years because they're less apt. This is like something you see with the Packers, too.

They just don't go out and spend money on big-time free agents or whatever. They like to draft and develop. That was a big part of, like, their philosophy. And I think like we even had a notion of this coming into the seasons like the Colts have good skill players like we like Josh Downs even though he doesn't get hardly He's like a super overqualified slot guy

Pitman's like a very solid outside wide receiver Jonathan Taylor great running back and then we're like Oh and then you add in Tyler Warren like this could be a really good skill group There's just no good quarterback there And then it turns out and honestly And if you go back to preseason time I think there was an impression at least from the beat writers every report that I saw, it was like,

that was a pretty close competition between Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson. And it was actually very surprising when Daniel Jones won it. I think a lot of people were like, oh, okay, that's crazy. And he's been, I'm sure he's been so much better than even they expected. It's been really cool to see. And this is part of a broader, I think, storyline and sort of just overarching motif for the season, which is retried quarterbacks, or not retread, I guess, just like veteran. It's the word.

Veteran quarterback set. least a year ago. Retred. Retred quarterbacks that have developed and found themselves into the right system and have really, really blossomed into really good quarterbacks. And so, yeah, it's crazy. And you got to give it to Stuyken, who should be the leading candidate for coach of the year? Absolutely is coach of the year so far. I mean, I mean, making that call to start Daniel Jones in particular. The play calling is ridiculous. As good as I think Tyler Warren is, I have to say, every time that guy catches a pass, there's nobody within 10 feet of them. He's wide open. I don't know how the fuck he's so open all the time for how big.

he is, but he's just constantly wide open 20 yards down the field. And it's not just coach of the year in the way that they give coach a year to like the team that most have performed expectations. Like the cults lead the league in points, 33 points per game on average. It's not better than expected. They lead the century. They lead the century in points per drive. That's fucking crazy.

How did Daniel Jones all of a sudden learn how to not take a million sacks? Well, I think it's a lot like, I mean, I know we're spending a lot of time in this, but they deserve it. Like, they've heard it. Like, I think Jones reminds me a lot of Darnold in that there was just, I mean, Donald, six years go, we're seeing ghosts. And like, you know what? Clearly,

you just, guys just benefit from spending more time and, like, the game slows down. And, you know, sometimes you're, Jaden Daniels and it slows down, like, immediately or whatever. And, like, sometimes it takes six years. And also, Jones is healthier. Not just the knee, but the neck. I think he, certainly the back

injuries and everything with Jones, he looks healthier. But clearly, the games are going slower from. There's no question about that. Craig Wilson is a winner for you today. Do the Chiefs. I'm falling back in love with the Chiefs. I think the Chiefs became the villain. I think the Chiefs are now becoming likable again, and we're now going back to the first iteration of Mahomes, where everyone's like, what is this?

This is so exciting. This team is so fun. The Chiefs murdered the Raiders today, 310. Least competitive game we've seen this year. One of the least competitive games you'll see. It was 210 immediately. It was the first time in Mahomes' career. He had three straight 80-yard touchdown drives to start the game.

The Chiefs scored 31 points in this game. The Raiders ran 30 plays, which is the fewest amount of plays in NFL offense has run in a game since 2000, at least 2002. I also looked it up and I'm pretty sure that this is only the 9th or 10th time in NFL history, at least since 1970, that a team, this is your idea

Craig for me to look it up, that the chiefs allowed, scored more points than the Raiders ran plays. Yes. Which is preposterous. They had 95 yards on 30 plays. It's really bad. That's great. You can usually get garbage time yards

and make it just look a little bit more respectable. The Raiders had one first down in the garbage time. The Raiders had one first down in the final three quarters. Damn. Is that right?

Really fucking brutal. I mean, it's just, that's just dominant as the gets. And I, yeah, punt, punt, punt, end of half, punt,

downs, punt, fumble, punt, end of the game. It was worse than we're making it out to me. It was. Because the Chiefs were fucking with them the whole time.

For sure. The Chiefs They were running some weird shit. They put Gardner Minchin in the game in the first half to run a play. Dude, they put them in the, they ran the,

They ran like the wing tea. That shit's 120 years old. That was invented by like Walter Camp in the 1880s. And that was going to be Rishi Rice's third touchdown, but there was a false start or something. But it was the coolest player. They had Mahomes go one way. Minchew snapped it, handed it off to Rishie Rice.

It was in the backfield and he like slipped in for a touchdown. Rice was great. Two touchdowns in the first half, 10 targets. They treat him like McCaffrey. Like they feed him like they throw to him the way that the Niners throw to McCaffrey. It's all like these little in-breaking things. Pitchie's touch pass. And we're not even mentioning the player that I think is going to be all

over social media all week, which is a thing I have kind of wanted teams to do more forever, and the Chiefs did it perfectly, which was the Mahomes' fourth and one fake trying to get the team off sides, which I have always wanted teams to do this, and Mahomes did it perfectly where they were trying to do the

hot, on, on, hot, on, ha, ha, ha, ha, and the fourth and one, and then Mahomes just stood up. It's like, this never fucking works. And then he just tries, huh, and then they just went and they got it. I think I'm going to give that the Rubinac Hannah Partridge Overacting Award a little bit. I think Mahomes went, oh, he said fucking twice, It was a little bit turned out. It worked.

It did work, but I don't know if it worked because of that. Or they just ran a good play. But did she? He was like, this fucking never fucking works. Stomps his foot. And the defense is like, okay. Darn it. Darn it.

This never fucking works. I don't know. I'm not giving him an Oscar for that one. Yeah, I'm insane. That was fine. State farm. Yeah. It's like state farm.

But, dude, in general, it feels like now the chiefs, now that they have rice back, it's like all of their receivers were playing as like underqualified ones and twos and now they're all kind of overqualified two and three. And it's like oh Hollywood Brown now is the number three guys pretty good. Oh Kelsey doesn't have as much to do now.

He's not going to get double covered as much now that they're like working things through. Another guy who's always wide open now that they actually have real receivers. Totally. And it's like Xavier Worthy. You don't have to rely on him as much. You can treat him more as like the guy you scheme things up for. I mean the chiefs are the healthiest good team. It's like close. Yeah. Like they're the mix of, they're playing well.

the offense, the defense, the defense, and everything, and they just have their guys. They're just fun. Like, Mahomes is playing so well. He's playing way more decisive and confident than it feels like he played in recent years. Like, because I feel like he's obviously been what made him great over the last couple seasons is what he does at the end of the game. But, like, to get to the end of the game, it was a lot of ugly football and things like that. And where he was just kind of running around and trying to make things happen and never really looked smooth or in rhythm or whatever. But now it's like, wow, they're in rhythm.

And when he doesn't have it in rhythm, he's really decisive and he takes off and runs. And he's just creating all these big plays. And he just looks so confident. He looks in total control of the offense. It's the Raiders, so I don't want to overreact. But having said that, the Raiders are a professional football team and they get paid to play football. And this is as dom. Again, the chiefs had more points than the Raiders ran fucking place.

So it's about as dominant of a game as you'll see. It's like the Lions had 50 on the Bears. It's more. But like this was like non-competitive. And so with that. said, to your point, D.K., about what you're saying with the Chiefs and everything, it's funny how we all got sick of Mahomes,

but in reality, I actually think maybe Mahomes is underrated, because I actually think we don't talk enough about how what fundamentally happened with the Chiefs is they wanted to extend Tyree Kill. Christian Kirk got that crazy deal from the Jaguars, and Tyree Kill's like, I want $30 million a year. And the Chiefs are like,

uh, we're going to take this for shrimp pick and we'll figure it out. And we'll go take a step back. We're going to retool, and we're going to set up the next decade because we don't want to just like do some crazy thing and focus on now and screw up the cap for later. We want Mahomes to have a super window forever.

So they tried to take a step back and then Mahomes made three fucking Super Bowls in a row and he won two of them. Like that was to step back because the offense was so bad and the shoestring and bubblegum at receiver and left tackle for three years was all to set up

now. Like this is the moment where the youth and the draft picks and everyone, like this is what they envisioned when they traded Tyree Kail as being the window is right now through 20, And so the fact that we think we're sick of them, I'm like, this team could be significantly better than the last three that made the, or at least the last two that made the Super Bowl. Yeah.

I think they should be the favorite to win the Super Bowl right now. I don't know if they are. They absolutely are. I think they are. I mean, if you just compare them, who are the teams that could beat them? It's like the bills are destroyed. The Ravens are destroyed. But you know what I mean?

The Bengals are, I know. It is funny that it's like Mahomes is probably going to win the MVP and the Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl. Yeah, it's crazy. So, yeah, it's unbelievable. Craig, right now. Chiefs are 5 to 1. Who's second? I used 9 to 1 10 days ago.

God damn. That's a terrible. No, that's crazy. It is. They're doing 20. And then the Packers. Terrible bet. That's, dude, the Chiefs are winning.

The Packers. The Chiefs are making the Super Bowl put it that way. Colts are 13.1. See, that's... Probably also not a good... Who, I mean, if they played next week, again, you have to go another 10 weeks. The AirC Championship Chiefs Colts would be sick. Chiefs also, speaking of worse collapse is one that never going to

mentioned. The Chiefs game in the wild car, the wild car round, Chiefs cults where everyone kept getting hurt. It was Andy Reid's first year. It was out, I think with the Chiefs first or second season. And they were up like 40 points or something,

and Andrew Luck came back. And they won like 45-44. And everyone kept getting hurt. That was like, but that was the one where Andrew Luck, they fumbled and Andrew Luck picked it up and like, you know what, never matter.

It'd be cool, though. Vaguely remember that, but I think I was. D.K. It doesn't matter. I barely remember last year. D.K. winner loser from today. Jaylen Hertz and the Eagles passing offense was a winner

and obviously we've given them a lot of guff this year we've been shitting on them quite a bit that's rightly lately I would say deservingly sound well yeah they've looked like shit right so but this game they did not they played they won 2022 of the Vikings yeah and again this is a very good Vikings defense before this week the most yardage they'd given up through the air was 182 yards they are averaging 157 yards

for their opponents this year. So they are one of the best, probably the second best past defense in the NFL, and Jalen Hurts went out, had his first 300-yard passing game since Christmas of 2023. And he had, hold on,

the Vikings defense had only allowed three deep completions all season coming into this game. And Hertz did six, he had six completions of 20-plus yards, including a 79-yard touchdown to Devote Smith, 37-yard touchdown to Brown, A.J. Brown,

26-yard, Touchdown to Brown. Basically, they just aired it out. It was the most out of character. Like, it just unexpected game. He said it was there the whole game and he was like, please call this play. And then he was right and they got the touchdown.

It was kind of threes and layups. It felt like we were just chucking it or handing it off or checking down and it worked. Yeah, you got to give to the Eagles. I feel like I'm going to be, I think the bar, I just set the bar high for them. My expectations are so high because of how good they looked at certain points last year and the year before that and stuff like that. But, yeah, AJ Brown will probably have like 1,300 yards and nine touchdowns this year, and I'll be angry the whole season.

Dude, that's what's the perfect Philly team. They're also going to make the Super Bowl again. If Eagles fans are complaining about them the whole time, but also get to yell at every... Literally, it's designed in a lab to make Philly happy. They get to complain internally, get to scream at everyone externally for making fun of the team, being like, we're the champions, and then they get to be mad the whole time, but then they're going to win. Per shield. Sheal Kapita.

The second best game. He was here right now. Oh, yeah. Where is he? Just over the house? second best game of Hurts's career by EPA per play and the second best game by any quarterback against Brian Flores in the last three years.

So just objectively a really, really good game. The receivers were happy, too. You know, 158 pass-a rating or whatever. Yeah, perfect pass-rating. Hey, J. Brown was yelling, throw me the fucking ball after he scored. What did he say when he scored? I'm the fucking man.

I'm the fucking bad. What do you think you are? I am. I was the suits. Exactly. Oh, man. I love receivers. Yeah, AJ Brown

Can't live with him, can't live without him. Totally. Oh, my God. Dude, I just remembered Malik neighbors. Like that he was just thought of once healthy. Dude, can you imagine they would have won if they had neighbors?

Do you attribute that to the field at MetLife? Yes. How could you not? Like, how could you not? It's wistfully. I just genuinely like remember him. Like he was dead. I remember him.

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But today we're talking about which one of us is absolutely cooking. Who's cooking around the NFL? DK., you pointed out to me. You know his cooking? Old guys are cooking. The old guys are cooking. Yeah. Your generation. Hell yeah.

Yeah. They're actually younger than me. Barely. I was like, Craig, Aaron Rogers is two years younger than me. He looks grizzled out there. He does the grizzled. He looks grislesles.

Liz saw him on TV and was like, Oh, God, he looks older. He does look old. He does the goal. He can throw the ball over them, their mouths. I said, you shut your mouth. He's got four touchdowns right now. Joe Flacco got like hotter as he got older, and Roger's got a lot worse. Flacco looks great out there, actually.

And I'm like all aboard the Flacco redemption tour. I don't even know if it's a redemption tour or it's just him going out and having fun with the kids. How is it not a redemption tour? I mean, because he won a Super Bowl, I guess. I don't know what he's redeeming at this point, I guess. But like, I would say it's a redemption tour for Rogers way more than. Flacko. Flack's just out there having fun.

He's just old. Look at him. He's old. He's so old. So we have to, oh, Craig, we haven't even talked about this game. So the Bengals beat the Steelers in Thursday football, 33 to 31. It was a hell of a game. One of the more amazing games of the entire season, just everything.

Well, I don't know if quality is the right word, but like, it was amazing. Like it was going, you really would never know that these guys were combined 82 years old or whatever, Flackle Rogers. Was it the oldest quarterback match of all time? It has to be. be. Two guys over 40 starting? I mean, there's only six guys that have played in their 40s period.

And they diced up those defenses. Dude, it was embarrassing. Like, the Bengals, we know their defense sucks. The Steelers, dude. It's the most expensive defense in the NFL. Yeah. It was... Greg's so sad.

Yeah, I was like... I've never seen... I think in general, the Steelers are really bad against number one wide receivers. They always get torched. I don't think I've ever seen a number one receiver

dice up a defense and have a defense be unwilling or just completely inept to cover the number one wide receiver than if the Steelers were against fucking Jamar Chase. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many times are they going to let him run a slam?

Oh, my God. I was out of my mind. I'm like, just put two people right in front of them. Put two people right in front of them. It's embarrassing. There's a personal issue. The Steelers cornerbacks like after, you know, Jerry Porter Jr., they just don't.

Like, you know, look, Darius Slay is the oldest quarterback, I believe, in the entire NFL. And certainly the longest time. I think he's 33. Porter got like two DPI's. It was a disaster. And in general, the Steelers' defense, has not been good for a long time.

Even though I feel like the Steelers' defense is fake good to me. 100%. They have a good pass rash. T.J. Watt's a great closer like they have.

They honestly, they're kind of like they play the song Renegate in the third quarter and they have big moments, but they're not a good defense. No, every three weeks, T.J. Walt will have like a strip sack

at the end of the game and everybody will freak out. But in general, like this team has not been good defensively for a long time. Tomlin's schematic, and they were trying to rotate coverages and stuff,

but they're not good at it. Like, that's the thing. It's kind of like we also want offenses. You know, good offenses will do motion or play action, but sometimes coaches just do it to do it. Like, they don't know why. And I feel like the Steelers rotate and stuff. They don't know, like, how to actually trick people.

Because to me, this is directly related to the same way. The Bengals getting, I mean, Jamar Chase had it. I can't even believe. I want to talk about this because I think. He had 21 targets. 23 targets. 16 catches, 161 yards at a touchdown. The best part to me was the last target.

He was completely uncovered. The 23rd target of the game. wide open. And you know why he was wide open? Because there was a motion and the secondary couldn't figure out how to respond to that and then he was just wide open.

It's true. The skeleton key to deeper. 22 targets were not enough to figure out. Andre Yosevaas shifted to the left and it threw the entire defense out of whack. They're like fainting goats. They just like get freaked out and just tip over.

Here's what I love about Flacco. The way he moves, obviously, is a little bit relatable for me being 43 years old. You know, he's kind of just, lumbering about out there. But if I woke, like, if you know those dreams where you are all of a sudden thrust into these situations

where you have to do something, you have no idea what you're doing? Like, that's essentially what Joe Flacco did here. He was traded within like three days. He's playing in a game. And in my mind, I'm like, okay, so I'm on this new team.

I don't know the offense. There was even Joe Flacco, even after the game was like, Zach Taylor was telling me these plays and I didn't know what he was saying. So I just like ran. So here's what I did. I passed it to Jamar Chase He's like, hey, every time he goes, Slant!

Hot round! Hot round! Run over there. So here's what I would do if I was in that situation. I would pass it to the best fucking pass catcher on the planet 23 times. And that's what's, again, I don't want to be too hard on my Tomlin, but like, it's embarrassing.

I think this is just as bad as like when Baker Mayfield was there for two days and beat the Raiders. Like, this is, to me, very related to the same. but they're the Ravens where they can't stop the Ravens. Ravens are like 500 rushing yards and then the final two games versus Steelers. This is even worse because what you said. The only thing you'd think you do if you're the Steelers is like double Jamar Chase and make Joe Flacco actually go through

his goddamn progressions. And it's not like it was, oh, at the end of the game, Jamar Chase got hot. The entire game, they were peppering him and there was no adjustment. Joe Flacco literally was probably like, I will just throw it to him and they'll probably after a drive or two just change things up and they just didn't. It really felt like they were playing like a turkey

bowl on Thanksgiving. Just go run, I'm going to throw you the ball. Flacco, and to your point, he had that funny, in the moment, it looked like a read option. We're like,

wow, that's amazing. Joe Flacco had a keeper, and then he goes to the desk with like Thursday football, Ryan Fitzpatrick at Amazon, and he was just like, yeah, um, you know,

I think I called the formation wrong and they lined up wrong, and I look over, I'm like, screw it, whatever. Dude, I love that.

Snap it, and then, wow, I was like, wow, that defense event got here fast. So it was like, I just kept it.

And like, it just, it just, His last six quarters have been insane. It's so cool. I mean, the Flacco thing really is one of the more improbable things that's ever happened. Like, the combination of him coming in off his couch and leading the Browns to the playoffs that one year was crazy. But, like, he's coming in, I mean, he won.

He almost beat the backers, but come in and just beat the Steelers like this. He literally was saying, I don't even know what these formations mean. He didn't know that he said after the game that when the play calls were coming in, something about Zach Taylor's accent, he couldn't hear what he was saying. And so he's just like, all right, I guess I'll just go out there. And some level, this has to,

slant. Can you imagine? Another slant. The Steelers, how is this? I don't know what he said. It is humiliating. It is humiliating.

Like, he doesn't know the plays. And he's 41 years old. Now we know why Mike Tomlin was so pissed when they traded. Oh my God. Like, he actually, I saw this from Bill Cowher. The only quarterbacks who have played Mike Tomlin 10 times or more in their careers

with winning records are, are Tom Brady and Joe Flacco. Wow. Jamar Chase also last two Thursday football games has combined 425 yards. This was the seventh best fantasy game of Joe Flacco's career. Dude, Jaflako is 41. So the Bengals are fully back.

It's crazy because, look, the Steelers, in a way, there is something to the idea that's something about these like three-day things where Flacco's like, it's kind of actually a golf where when you have Dek is going to eyes glaze over, but it's sometimes when you have really low expectations, you actually like are playing great. Yeah. And something about where it's just like...

There's no pressure. Yeah, you just totally focus and simple and the execution's great. Yeah. There's a dog leg there and I just like, I hit the bunker. Well, I could at least pivot to the other side of the ball to keep who's cooking going. Aaron Rogers is cooking. My guy's cooking.

He is. He's playing so well, man. He's still doing things that I still think he makes throws that few quarterbacks in the league right now can make. There was a couple incredible throws. The one to Pat Friermuth for the touchdown was an incredible throw. He's like a laser split the defense. Did his stuff down the sideline, like the first play of the game to like D.K. Metcalfe. Yeah.

Beautiful. Also, I want to point out the Hail Mary Pass attempt at the end of the game. Oh, yeah. The pass traveled. I first saw Nate Tice tweet, Nate Tice tweet this, but then like next-gen stats followed it up. That pass, the Hail Mary went, traveled 69.8 yards, which is the longest recorded pass attempt since 2017? That's crazy. I mean, was that also him?

Also, I mean, Rogers, he had a Hail Mary last year with the Jets. He had Hale Mary last year. Dude, I'm on a day football. I mean, they didn't complete it for the record. It was a fantastic girl. But it was a cool. It was right in D.K. This is like what Nate was saying, like, he tweeted that the 70 yard thing,

69.8 yards or whatever. And somebody was like, well, he didn't complete it. And it's like, it was a long pass. It was a cool pass. What do you want to say? And missing the point. Like, don't forget, two weeks ago, no, one week ago, we've, we saw Mahomes try a Hail Mary.

Like, Mahomes... We saw Hertz try one this year. Well, Hertz can't. But, like, Mahomes, you know, if you were like, all right, everyone line up who could throw the furthest, we'd probably be like, probably Josh, Mahom's, Herbert. And, like, Rogers.

Rogers probably could throw further than Josh and all these guys. Like, 70 yards. Maybe Josh, I guess you can throw at 70. But, like, Mahomes tried and, like, really, like, launched it, and he didn't, he couldn't do it 70. Like, that... It was a good play by the defender, I will say. He put it in a place where I think D.K.

Mackack could have got me. It was a great throw. From 69.8 yards away, put it in a good place. Like, that's actually... But overall, Rogers, the mobility, everything, like... The offense is working. And also, the other thing, we have to... Arthur Smith and the offense...

It's crushing it. I made... A lot of questions and fun. I made fun of them of just, like, how is this going to work? Arthur Smith and Rogers and what they want to do doesn't seem to jive. And guess what? This crazy FACTA offense that Arthur Smith has kind of made of, like,

the three tight ends, all three Steelers' tight ends scored in this game. which was crazy. All for your top 15 fantasy guys, but the idea of the running game and just basically beating the crap out of people, but then Rogers is like crazy overqualified game manager and like absurdly talented,

but they're going to run. It has threaded the needle on accomplishing a lot of what they need to do. It's such a bummer that this is the year the Steelers defense is the worst it's ever been. Austin texted us, this is the worst Steelers defense this millennium by yards a lot of per drive.

It's such a bummer that finally the Steelers offense looks competent again. Rogers is the only quarterback in the league with multiple four touchdown past games this year. And I think you got to give it to him. Honestly, like the humility of him being like, I'm going to adhere to what Arthur Smith wants me to do. I'm going to go under center. I'm going to move a lot. Like, I'm not just going to park and bark, shock him, do my shit.

Like, he is playing this new style really, really well. Rogers, it's better when he isn't in charge of everything. Yeah. Like, he didn't have options. This was the only team. And, like, it's better when he doesn't get everything he wants. Like, he could get hurt next week, but you have to look back on the season. to be like Rogers was not washed.

Like what happened with the Jets last year? I mean, God, with what's going on with the Jets this year? You almost look back at Rogers last year and you're like, it wasn't that bad. This is kind of, I know. This is kind of why I'm like when Pennix got her tonight. When Michael Pennix got hurt banged up tonight and Kirk was going to come up. I'm like, Kirk probably is better.

Again, the same thing. Achilles the next year, you're probably not great. The year after the year after the Achilles, I'm like Kirk's probably better than Pennix. If Pennix got hurt, my Kirk will probably play better too. Yeah. The other who's cooking, just old guys, dude, Stafford and the Rams this morning versus the,

Stafford is really cooking. The Rams are unbelievable. And Stafford is just having quietly one of the better years of his whole career. Yeah. I was going to say, yeah, because I think...

He's like playing with his food. You know? Stafford loves to his kid. Well, like the no-look passes, like the arm angles. He's like the old guy on the pickup court. He's like doing like behind the back shit.

He's like shooting it over his head. Yeah, totally. And one mixtape. He had 33 pass attempts. I mean, 182 yards. It wasn't like he was like racking up a ton of yards in the game today. in London against Jacksonville.

They blew him out. He had five touchdown passes. He had five touchdown passes. Devonthe Adams had five catches for 35 yards and three touchdowns. Dude, Stafford, he hasn't had five touchdown passes in 10 years. And he's the first person to ever throw in an international game, five touchdowns. The seven games in, Stafford has 17 touchdown passes this year. He had 20 last year, total.

That's wild. And that was a pretty good team. They went to playoffs. They almost beat the Eagles. Yeah, they were, I mean, they had some ups and downs during the regular season, but, I mean, Stafford is absolutely on one this year. He's on pace for 41 touchdowns.

Old guy still got it. We have to tattoo this for ourselves of like, I don't care if Matt Stafford's hurt in August. I don't need him to practice. I don't need to do anything. Like, he will show up every Sunday, and I actually regret a lot. I forgot about his back and stuff,

the whole off season, him in the trailer. Famously the most airstreams are in there. He's like in there doing some weird thing. I don't even know what. He like sleeves hanging upside down like a bat. He's like pressure off his back. That sounds good.

That sounds good, actually. I kind of want to do that. Yeah, it just unbelievable. And also, so Pukiniku is number three receiver in the fantasy season, even though he missed this week. He's still number three overall. Devante's number six overall in points. Like, they're both top six. Kingmaker.

So, yeah, Stafford, yeah. Other person who's absolutely cooking. I know this was two days ago, I don't care. Shohay Otani had the best baseball game, I think, that's ever been played in majoring baseball. It has to be. That's crazy because baseball's been around. Like 180. 70s. I really think this is

First of all, let's just start here. I think Otani is the best baseball player of all time. I don't even think it's that big of a discussion. I feel like he just obviously is. He just obviously is. I agree. He needs, it's not like goat status because they need to win the World Series. He probably needs like two or three. But like he clearly is just the most talented person who's ever tried this thing. Yes. Since tungsten Armo Doyle. Tungsten Arm-O-Doyle. Yeah, that's number one. He can hit 50 home runs. He can lead the league in steals.

he had 10 strikeouts in six innings and hit three homers in a fucking plan. I remember when he struck out Kyle Schwerber. When he struck out Kyle Schwab, I was like, so the guy with like the fourth most homers just struck out the guy with the third most homers. This is like three times bigger than everyone else.

This kid's like 18, right? That's exactly what it is. The little world series. It's like only Little World Series. Like yeah, six innings, struck out 10, hit three home runs. But yeah, that's the, dude, I just going through it. So the Dodgers, you know, listening to this,

you're not a baseball person. The Dodgers swept the Brewers who had Again, didn't play well. They did have the most wins in baseball this season. So it wasn't like nobody that they played. A good team. So the Dodgers swept the Brewers. Otani pitches game four.

Otani has 10 strikeouts over six shutout innings. Yeah, but say how he started the game. So I'm just going to read the actual order of things. Otani, first inning, O'Tonnie strikes out three batters in the top of the first. Bottom of the first, he hits a lead-off home run. I mean. So he's the first pitch he'd ever hit a lead-off him run, period. Then he strikes out three more guys.

Then he hits a nether home run. run off a different pitcher literally out of the park. He hits a baseball. A fucking moonshot. He hit a baseball. He crushed it. He hit it out of the fucking stadium. I think in my lifetime, look, I don't know that much about, I'm not like a huge

baseball expert. I watch baseball my whole life. But I think the two most intimidating hitters I've ever seen in my life are Barry Bonds and Shohei Otani. I agree. Mark McGuire would probably be up there too, obviously. But Shohei Atani looks like three times bigger than everyone. So big.

And he goes up there and he just like stand straight up and then just fucking golfs the ball out. It's insane. It's so limber. He has like the most like it just makes you feel primal when you watch it. I'm like he is going to fucking crush that thing. He has reached the Barry Bonds thing. He really does.

Like it's it's like insane how hardy it's the ball. Because like I think you're right to bring up Bonds because I think Bonds is the last guy that when the pitcher's pitching, you obviously are the psycho and you think you're better than everyone. And Otani, like even all these great hitters. have been around like Albert Poolelson, Miguel Cabrera, and Aaron Judge. There's a time.

I'm sure we're leaving. Yeah. But yeah, there's 100. But the point is he's like not human. And the pitcher is like, oh my God, I'm facing show you a time. I'm just talking purely like if I was the other team, a fan of the other team, the person I'm most scared of. Like, Otony is like, oh, God, he's going to fucking kill this. His resume is insane.

Like the world baseball class, I know he goes done on this, but the world baseball classic, like, maybe you remember this, but Japan was playing America in the final. And he struck out, he like just, he closed. the World Baseball Classic, and he, like, struck out Mike Trout to end the game. He played, like, Monkey Betts and Freddie Freeman and Mike Trout, and he just, like, beat them all. I'm like, those are, like, three MvPs in a row. So then he's doing this. And sorry, just to go through.

Otani's the second player to ever strike out 10 guys and hit a home run in the playoffs. Bob Gibson's shoutout did it twice in the World Series. But Bob gets in hit one home run. Otani hit three home runs. Cannot stress enough. One of them went 460 feet. And in the 10 years they've been tracking is, like, the third largest, third longest home run ever in the stadium. Yeah.

He also struck out 10 people. And I just scoreless innings. Six scoreless innings. And I just, I think he lit up like three days. It's unbelievable. He is, it's obvious. Again, saying he's at the point where to your point, Craig, saying Otani is the best baseball player ever feels like a very middle of the road,

mainstream thing to say to the point where I actually would think Otani has done something I didn't think anyone would do where we were just like two weeks ago joking that like if the human race had to defend, like, you know, that movie Troy where they just said, yeah, we have 40,000 people in each side, let's just send one guy one on one, let's just you know, save some, you know, winner takes. We like, LeBron is like that guy for us. LeBron is just like,

our athlete, like, he could represent us. And I'm like, I think O'Tani is like right there in terms of just like he's clearly, you mentioned the once in a hundred law. Like, Otani is genuinely a once in a century person for like the whole world. Like it's just, it's actually crazy.

I think the added fuck you of one last year. he just led the league in steals. He can't pitch one season. He can't pitch 50 home runs and 50 steals. Yeah. I think it's true. That's why I brought up the Little League World Series or Little League, yeah. I was just like it doesn't feel like he's playing on the same level as everyone else.

You know what I mean? Has you been the movie Benchwarmers? No. When they bring in the team brings in the guy who's like 32 years old, like from the Dominican Republic. And he has like a fake birth certificate. It's written in Cran. It says, I am 12. Yeah.

He's just unbelievable. You know what's funny. It's the real life Chad Powers. like do they where Eli shows up to a D3 team and he's like oh like wow why is this guy the best guy ever like this is that

dude I think Otoni is the best contract in baseball oh my God God what does he cost again is like deferred all the money which made way more sense after the you know it's like in total it's like 700 million dollars whatever it is but it's immediately worth it

whatever they've made and just like the merchandising and all that it's probably worth it alone but what he's doing on the field is still worth it he also like frankly I think he's going to like save the sport like the amount of just children who were not going to be into baseball that are going to be into baseball because of this guy is hard to calculate. Do you guys want to know my intrusive thought?

Yes, I do. That happened during this. So basically, Otani is going out and doing something no one's ever seen before, basically, on Friday night. And the Mariners, meanwhile, like extended their season essentially. If they would have lost at home there, it would have been really, really tough to beat the Blue Jays. But they had a big dumper Cal Raleigh hit a home run to tie the game. game and then Gino Suarez hit a grand slam.

Like one of the great, one of my favorite sports memories of all time. And I go into the group chat and you guys are just talking about Otoni. And I was like, fuck O'Tonnie. He stole our thunder. Like I was so pissed because you guys kept talking about O'Tani. And I'm like,

did you guys not watch the Mariners game? Like that was an incredible game. It's going to be your first World Series ever. They're going to get swept. Otis is a high home. Seriously. But I was like, I was just like so,

I was like so mad at you guys because Craig, I was like, dude, the Mariners, they won. And Craig goes... And then Craig's response, like, didn't acknowledge what I said. And it was just like, this stuff that Otani's doing is insane.

There's a super cut of Otani, just all his strikeouts in chronological order. Yeah. Like, it's just strikeouts, strikeout, strikeout, home run. Also, three different pitchers he hit the home runs off of and three different pitches. He was three for three homers. Does the Mariners play that night? I'm kidding. Yeah.

No, I know. Look, I totally understand. And like, I recognize and appreciate what Otani is doing. But I was also just like... You guys did it. It was like a fucking sweep. There was no drama. No.

Oh, my God. Tony's cooking. All right, that's it for who's cooking this week, brought to you by our friends. At IKEA, we all want to cook, whether it's in fantasy football or in your dream kitchen. And at IKEA, you can find everything you need to create yours from big dreams like whole new kitchens to smaller ones like stylish plates. All right, let's get to, it's so over, we're so bad, Craig. Who's, who's, who's, it's, it's so over for? I'm going to be calm about this.

I'm going to be calm about this because starting Treveon-Henderson at this point is not his fault or it's not my fault. Yeah, it is. It's, I'm to blame because I did it again. And he, he, why? Because he remembered that 100-yard kick return from the precinct. Here's my rationale. This is now the second week after Antonio Gibson's torn ACL.

he's out. They're playing the Titans. I'm like, they're going to run up to score. This is the perfect game for them to incorporate him. It's just when it all comes together. There have been games that, like, week three, he had 14 touches. So I'm like, okay. And last week he had 10. So I'm like, you know, maybe 15 is reasonable against the Titans.

And you know what? I was right. We bet on the Pats ringer 107. They were up on the Titans. Most of the game, there was 31-13 in like the third quarter. Travian-Henerson had, I'm going to stay calm. He'd. I can feel my heart rate going on. Because it's my fault.

He had two carries for five yards today. And in garbage time, they opted not to give him the ball. They gave the ball to a man named Torell Jennings, who is an undrafted free agent, who got five carries in garbage time. And it's on me. So funny. How many snaps did he play five? No, he played three.

I think I saw this. Torell Jennings. In NPC. So Ramadri Stevenson, no, in the first three quarters. So essentially non-grap quarter. Non-garbage time. Yeah. Ramandre, I think I saw this from PFF,

had 42 out of 45 snaps. Trevion played three snaps. And then they gave the ball to this guy, Jennings, in garbage time. And then after the game, the best part is, just add insult to injury. After the game, there's this video of Mike Frable. Like, he sees this Jennings.

What's his name? Terrell Jennings. Terrell Jennings. Yeah. He sees him from like 30, 40 feet away. Just huge smile on his face, walks up to him a reunion.

They hadn't seen each other in years. Gives him this big hug. Vrabel fucking loves this guy. Have you ever seen that video of the guy who like raised lions and then he reunited with him like 12 years later? It was like that.

It was like if Brabel's son was in the game and he's like, I'm so proud of you, son. You did an amazing job. He's like got tears in his eyes. Treygohn Henderson is never seeing the field again. I get such a bad trivia on Henderson hangover every, every Monday I wake up and I just are splitting headache

and the next Saturday night comes around I'm like I'm gonna start him. You actually just can't start him anymore. No. I refuse to let you. I won't drop him because if there's anything worse than dealing with this, it's me dropping him and then he goes off.

He will be on my team all season. You just out of principle. Absolutely. So on that note, I need to be right if it ever paid off. I have a new game I want to play. Okay. It's called two running backs who outscored

Travian Henderson and a lie. I mean, he scored 0.5 points. Well, so actually on that note, I actually going to tweak the game a little bit because there were if you just the whole week and so everything

except for the two money football games remaining. 66 running backs registered fantasy points of any kind like played.

Okay. Traveehan Henderson ranks of the 66 64th this week. Wait, who is worse? He beat two players so I'm going to invert

the game. We're going to play the only two players who did not outscore Trayvian Henderson and one guy who did. I like this.

Um, And I'm going to be honest with you. These are just the bottom four people. It's Trayvon Henderson, two people below him, and one guy above him. Okay. So, Devin Neal, on the Saints, the Saints' third string running back. Right. Because Kendrae got hurt, right?

Devin Singletary, the Giants third string running back. And Hunter Lipke, who was the Cowboys' Fullback. One of those guys... I feel like I saw him get the ball. Lipki? One of those guys did outscore Trayvian Anderson. To register a stat, that means they were given the ball, correct? Or is that not...

I think it's like snaps. I think... I'll double check right now. Are they, like, targeted? I'll double check. I'll double check. I remember Devin's... I don't actually know, but they...

You searched, I can't actually... I'm gonna say the... Populating them. I'm gonna say... The fullback did not score... Lipkey? Yeah. Wait, did or did not?

Because two of... I'm flipping the game. Two of these people are the only two people belong. So you have to get the person who did. Oh, the person who did? I'll say that's Devin Neal. Yeah, same. No, it's Hunter Lipke.

I had scored him. I knew it. Hunter Lipki out scored him. I saw that guy. The only literally... I think he had maybe a catch. 64th out of 66 running backs, Draven Henderson today.

Like, what that, what I'm saying... You could have started anybody. You know, I could have added Terrell Jennings. If you had literally picked anybody, you would have had like a 99% Shinsuit better. Like, literally anybody. You could have scrolled down to the very bottom of the running back list and probably

outscored. I can't remember a bigger bust in fantasy based on hype. Oh, yeah. Craig, No, it's Clyde Edwards. Clyde Edwards-Ares. No, no, no, no. We're talking about fantasy.

Well, yeah, I guess that's true. Clyde-Roy was a tough. He was like the 10th pick and fantasy. But like, what was he at least giving you like 12 points a game? No. I think Clyde, Clyde, Edward Salerer is probably the worst. Because he was like a first round pick. Yeah, let's just based on the start.

It was like this, but he wasn't playing that much. But no, but I'm not trying to take it with your point. Travion. You're not different because Travion was like a fourth round pick, fifth-th-round pick who... You got pushed up into third round. this way. Travion is playing closer to like Caleb Johnson who was like not playing.

Who scored more? I know. Dude, I don't know. Caleb, like Travon's not playing. Dude, Clyde Edwards hilarious. First six games. I mean, week one, he had 140 yards in a touchdown. Week two, 70 yards. Week 3, 140 yards.

Week 5. 90 yards. The next week 80. The next week 170. That's what I'm saying. He was a disappointment relative to I think what we thought. Wait, what are you looking at? Aren't that? Scrimmage?

Yeah, yeah. I'm looking at it. his game long for rookie season. Look at that first game. Fair enough. I mean, that's, I mean, it's not, I guess, great. That's more than Henderson is like three years. Oh, yeah, fair enough.

The second half was pretty bad, actually. But yeah, I see you're saying. Yeah, I mean, it's still honestly not great, but it's just, it is a calamity. He, like, taking injuries out, he has to be the worst pick. I texted Bill about it, and Bill said, he hasn't had one good play all year. I'm not kidding.

I'm not kidding. Probably a good time to buy low. RJ Harvey's outscored him. Yeah. Well, I think the question is, how long can you have him so you cut him? No, I won't. When you cut him, he's instantly going to start playing.

Correct. You can't cut him. I mean, you can't. You can do whatever you want. No, you cannot. Dude, he has literally... He played three snaps. He played three snaps.

I won't cut you. How many people play three snaps in the game? I can't go down with him making some miraculous comeback, and then he's like, the winner of the second half the year. That's, I'll, I can't deal with that. I agree. If you cut him, I'm going to add him. I don't want you. I don't want that. You should cut him. You should cut him. No, no, I won't.

I won't cut him. No, but then I'll be sad. Like, he doesn't even, I can't even justify the category that's over with Tribune Henderson. But he's a good, it's a song, there's no answer to this. Like, literally, Rabel's found, dude, this is. Torell Jennings. Like, put it this way. Hey, have a day and missed a game. Are we even sure that Henderson would even play? Like, Terell, like, you probably like rotate in with this. Dude, I mean, Romandre leads the league in fumbles. It doesn't even matter.

I actually like that Rabel isn't pulling him for this. I'm saying if you're holding him, I'm like, if Ramonjia got hurt, how much would Henderson even be on the field? Is he that bad of a fashion? Has it been that big of a disaster? I don't,

I don't know. I think the first couple games he had a few big. Sure. Dude, the one where he looked like he's been that bad really. It was bad. Like, the third quarter, they're up,

they're up 15. He's not even on the field. You think you want to give him. a drive for reps. I think Vrable is a person. Frable couldn't wait to get this Jennings guy in there. Even on just like run only downs

when you know you're going to just put him in. I think this is the bottom. Because it, I mean, well I guess in theory he could go to 65th or 66th. I don't give it a week. So he's two more thoughts to go.

Craig, you said it a couple weeks ago though. Like, I just don't think Vrabel likes him. He doesn't. Obviously. This is why I'm saying I'm to blame because Vrable is clearly signaling to everyone.

You know what's so funny? There's something so funny about fantasy football. where fantasy football people like you, we convince ourselves to play guys whose coaches won't play them. Yeah. Which is like the funniest thing ever.

Because Vrable doesn't give a shit that he was a second round pick. If he's not good, he's not going to play him. You play players that are good. That's it. It's so funny too because Rable's like winning the AFC East.

Yeah. And he's like, and we're like, well, he was great at Ohio State and he looked good in the preseason and he was a second round pick. And Rabel's like, I don't care about any of that. Yeah.

He's not good. At practice, he's bad. Speaking of not good, not bad. Another it's so over. Justin Fields, it's so over DK. I mean, yeah, he was benched today. Poor Jets. For real, I guess.

I don't know. So the Panthers be the Jets. 13 to 6, and it was tough to watch. I mean, it was actually a close game. The Jets were in a position where they could even potentially win this game. Rod Taylor had a chance after the Jets played

one of the worst performances since almost seven days ago when they were the worst team I've ever seen. And Tarrad Taylor in the first play of this drive to tie the game for a interception. And so I don't know, but Fields, do you think Fields starts next week, TK? I don't know.

I don't know what the right thing. I don't even know what I would do in this situation because Fields, the way that he's playing right now, it's almost like a non-starter. They cannot... Literally. Ha. They cannot move the football.

Fields through six games. Dude, I think the 116 Browns can move the football better than this team. I mean, he's averaging 140 passing yards game, and he's not running all that much. It's funny. He has four touchdowns in... seven games. Wait,

have they played six or seven games? I don't remember. They've played six, but he got hurt in one of them. No, they played seven. He's played seven games. He's played six.

They played seven. He's been sacked. He's been sacked the second most times in the NFL, 22 times. Only Cam Ward has more sacks. So think about how many sats. Think about a sack as like a drive killer almost always. Yeah.

Especially for an offense like this. They're not getting, if they get sacked, the drive is essentially over. The last two games for Justin Fields. he's 15 or 29 for 91 yards. Three yards per 10. No touchdowns and only 50 rushing yards.

No interceptions though. 17% success rate on the plays for Justin Fields. I know I'm a dead horse at this. It would just be eating a dead horse, but like the Broncos game last week, the Jets had 80 yards and 30 of them were on one drive. The best drive the Jets had, the Jets gave up on trying to score.

Literally, they had 45 seconds to score, and Aaron Glenn was like, I don't think we can get 15 more yards to get field green. and they gave up, and that was their best drive was when they quit. Austin says the Jets have one touchdown in the first three quarters of games since week two. Yeah. First three quarters. I'm telling you, like, this is...

Their offense is non-functional. I'm not like a Giants fan trying to beat them on the Jets. They should just kind of call it. They're 0-16 level. We're just going to go. We're done. You guys get the way. We're sick of this.

They should. The defense isn't as bad, but the offense is 0. 16 level. What's funny is the fan. this side of field is so bizarre because basically he's multiple 20 point games he has he has three games of 25 or more points and three games of less than five so he is

literally either the best quarterback in fantasy because 25 is the best quarterback in fantasy or the worst yeah he'll even be number one or 32 or any given week it's so funny because like we're in a super flex league I have him in the ringer league and I'm like so do I like caught this guy if they bench him or like you know what I mean it's just it's just crazy bizarre um yeah it's pretty again It's the Panthers.

It's not like the Broncos two weeks ago. This is the Panthers and he couldn't do anything. Yeah, it's so over. It's also so over. It is so over for Tua. And Mike McDaniel and the Dolphins, it's never been more of it. The Dolphins lost to the Browns.

Who has a more operational offense? The Dolphins or the Jets? No, the Jets, I'm not trying to be over exaggerating. Like, it is the turnovers, the lack of turnovers. Turnovers obviously the worst thing an offense can do. but if you take out turnovers, I have never seen an offense struggle to gain yardage like I've seen these jets the last like four weeks.

Every time you look up there in third and 11. The Dolphins, though, lost to the Brown's 31 to 6. It was so sad. Like it was actually like I felt so bad for Mike McDaniel. Like it's pouring rain. He's watching his like entire lifetime of hubs and dreams just like slip through his fingers. And it was in addition to all these passes from Tula. Jesus.

Spot the lie. Slip through his fingers. NFL should really be like a guillotine league. It should be every week a team is eliminated. How nice would that be? And then they just redistribute all the other players. Wouldn't it be nice? Week 12? We don't have to watch the fucking Dolphins and Browns play.

We should quarantine teams. Like we should put them in a separate league. Like we just put them in the Browns. The toilet pool. Dolphins and the Jets just have to play each other every week for November December. It's a guillotine league, but the teams that are getting eliminated join the loser pool and they play every week on like Fridays. So Friday afternoon.

Yeah. Remember that one COVID game that was like Wednesday at afternoon? Yeah. That one should... People who wants that. That's a great idea. If the NFL wants to own more of the week, losing bracket.

That should be the other Monday day football games. Stop putting good teams, but the bad games, yeah. There's something there. Raj. To a, yeah, Roger. Someone sent this to Goodell. He's listening.

He is. He is. He is. Don't listen to the other things we said, though. Should we let Carlos rant? Yeah, I do. So two or three for exactly 100 yards.

He threw into three interceptions, all in the second half. He fumbled three times as well. He fumbled three times. Carlos could come here in a second. CBS had a game break announcing his second pick, and then during the game break, he threw a third book. And it's just so anyway, so Carlos,

lifelong dolphins fan here, Carlos. Are you okay? Wait, wait, no, no, no. My question to Carlos is, who are you the most mad at? Yeah. Chris Greer. The GM has been here for 25 years.

He had no hesitation there. Look, if I could choose anybody to get fired tomorrow, it would be Chris Greer. Like, obviously, McDaniel probably, maybe will be fired this week? I mean, losing to the Browns, more than 25 points is kind of insane. So, yeah, I don't know.

McDaniel probably is going to get fired, but like, and they might bench Tua, and then we're in full on tank mode, which is just rough. But none of that matters if Chris Greer is still making the picks. Like, this team is a disaster

because this roster is a disaster. I totally agree. I mean, Chris Greer has missed so many picks. Should I say my theory? Is it a little reckless? I don't know what is. I'll say it.

We can cut it. if this is bad. I think it's pretty middle of the road. So I agree with what you're saying, Carlos. I think that Chris Creer, the GM is more than just out of getting fired, and he has not for two reasons. One, he's been there for a long time. Not been the GM for 25 years, but he's been the Dolphins since, like, the late 90s.

I think Chris Keir is not being fired from the dolphins because he knows where all the bodies are buried for the various things the dolphins have broken the rules for. Again, these are not, like, conspiracy theories. Like, the dolphins were already investigated and punished by the NFL for, like, trying to get Tom Brady and Sean Peyton on Stephen Ross's yacht to like collude like get them there like the dolphins have been punished for multiple things that Chris Cruz is there for Brian Flores the former coach of the dolphins is literally suing like multiple NFL teams as part of a lawsuit

I straight up don't think that Stephen Ross the owner of the dolphins can fire the GM who is there for a lot of this and just knows he just knows too much to to fire him like you can't get rid of a guy like that in this moment I don't know if that's true but it's just my Occam's razor of just like, why is this guy still running the team? Yeah, but if you fire him in the off season, doesn't the same rule apply? I don't think he can get fired

until this legal stuff's resolved, honestly. Like, I kind of think, I don't think Chris Girk can get fired to the floor as lawsuits resolved. He just knows too much. He was there. Which is why they're in no man's land. Like, if Chris Greer is not going to be fired,

then there's literally no hope for this team. Like, because, okay, so now Tua has this massive contract, right? they can't if they cut him this offseason we're going to be taking like a Russell Wilson Broncos level cap hit the next season so you're holding on to him for a year so we have another year of Tua for sure most likely and Chris Greer is still in charge of this team

give me a reason to have hope this team scored 70 points what are we doing do they have 70 points this year do you want Mike McDaniel fired Carlos like like I'm talking like tomorrow like this shit's Sunday you want Mike McDaniel fired Monday? I still have in my mind, like, there's, like, I kind of maybe wonder, like, what would

Mike McDaniel do with a quarterback who wasn't as limited? But maybe that's, like, foolish of me, and we should just, I don't know, like, I don't know. It's tough. I'm fine with either way, honestly. Like, I'm kind of over it. I think they have to get rid of McDaniel. I think the vibes have gotten too bad. Like, just his whole situation in the press conference is, like, the way he's, like, conflicting or arguing with his players like through press conferences. I feel like you kind of can't go back from that stuff. I do feel like McDaniel,

he's going to land somewhere as an offensive coordinator, and I think he's probably going to be great, and maybe that's just what he's meant to do. But it's tough because I feel like he's going to be awesome somewhere close to the running game stuff, and he was a run-game coordinator with the 49ers. Like, that's his actual background, and it's been terrible, and the dolphins suck in short yarders.

Now, to your point, Carlos, like, they have missed a lot of picks on the offensive line. but I just I feel bad for you, Carlos, because you pointed this out to me, the thing with Tua, and I think the reason a lot of our criticism of Tua made

Dolphins fans really upset, Tua is unambiguously the best quarterback the Dolphins have had in Carlos's life since Dan Marino. Like, he's not even close. Like, Till Tua made the Pro Bowl a couple years ago, the Dolphins were the only team

in the NFL that didn't have a pro bowl in the 21st century at quarterback. Do you know how hard that is? And Trubisky made the pro ball. Like, not even an alternate. Like, that's what it took. So, I mean, it's so sad that Tua is, like,

not even close. to good enough. I think that's obvious now. It's not even just the health stuff. It's like obviously... Who did the Browns have? I think Derek Anderson in 07 had a randomly good year. But the... And also just... I know. But just to say this because I think... What I was saying about

the GM and Chris Greer, I know that's like kind of explosive, just to pick one example from stuff that Brian Flores has alleged in his lawsuits, just because I don't want to just say what I'm saying without... Just to give you an idea of why I think this. And why, again, why I think... I don't think the Dolphins will fire the GM until Flores things resolved. I'm going to just read a quote from Brian Flores. Because I don't want

to speculate. Brian Flores, well, you know what it was like. Brian Flores said about that he basically said Stephen Ross, the owner of the team offered $100,000 per loss because he wanted to take for a quarterback. That was the year they got to him. And one of the reasons that he Flores didn't like him. And so Flores says, quote, I'm reading, that was a conversation about not doing as much as we needed to do in order to win football games. Take a flight, go on vacation, I'll give you $100,000 per loss. Those were his exact words. I deal in truth. I tell the players this. this as well. I'm going to give you good news, bad news, but it's going to be honest.

To disrespect the game like that, trust was lost and there was certainly some strained relationships. Ultimately, I think that was my demise in Miami, end quote. So I'm saying that stuff we know about. I'm just saying, I just don't think when there's like allegations. Like, he offered 100K under the table per loss to tank. There's a, and obviously,

there's other stuff involved in the floor's lawsuit. Like, there's just too much going on. I don't think he can fire Chris Gras. DK. offered me that today in our matchup in the ring early and I said no. We're battling because of it. Carlos, his last we're here because I'm sorry but do you want to hold on to Tua next year? It all depends again like if they're drafting a quarterback high then they can do the whole like pretend that he's sitting behind to it for a year and then he doesn't think I'm fine with

that outcome if it saves them money in the long run cool well I'm like sorry that's yeah sorry it's all right I'll go back and listen to the pod from you guys reacting to the 70 point You'll always have that. That game was awesome. He was sick. He listens to that what he wants to feel. At one point, we're like, by far one of the coolest offense I've ever seen.

You know, it's crazy if the Broncos had like six more minutes in that game. I bet they could have came back and won. You know, who would have been? Okay, let's get to America's favorite segment here. Fart or shart. Okay. No, I don't think we have the sound drop funnily enough because we're in person. So do you guys want to just make a bunch of fart noises?

DK. Furt or short. Oh, my stomach. All my stomach. All right, thanks. right, D.K., Daniel. What's up? Danny. Yeah.

The Jacksonville Jaguars. Shart. I just feel like the vibes are horrific. Yeah. They're just like back to being the Jags. It's the sloppiest team in the NFL. They lost two straight. They had 13 penalties today.

They'll lead the league in penalties. Lawrence took seven sacks tied for a career high. Jags are four and three. This is a shart to you? Yeah, I think that the beginning of the season. Hot wet shart. The beginning of the season. was we thought they were good because they kept getting a bunch of

turnovers and turnovers are super, what's the word I'm looking for? There's a high variance play and I don't really think they're that good. I kind of think it's a fart. Okay. Also, Brian Towns got hurt today. Yep, hard his shoulder. Three days ago I was like if they beat the Rams is it a... You want to talk about Ewing theory? Yeah.

Brian, huh? One injury away from having a good team. There you go. Oh, my God. We should that be a power hour? Injuries that'll make teams better. That's kind of funny, actually. Not to laugh about.

No, we would never. We would never wish injuries on anyone. The Cardinals are way better with you go be set, though. Like, unquestionably. Way better. It's not even close. The Jaguars, though, I do think this is a fart for two reasons. One, I just, I don't want to make...

No one ever agrees with me when I do this. That's not true. We usually bully you. That's true. I don't think one time I've ever said it, you guys are like, yeah. There's no right answer. No, you guys... It's a feeling.

It's definitely I still don't really know what the difference is You'll learn Buddy Someday After after a few times We ate some real greasy food today Maybe I'll find out

Yeah I think it's a fart Yeah it's like I don't want to draw too much From like one London game I know I also think That's more than one London game

I know they lead the league They're sloppy But also they like did beat the Chiefs two weeks ago Which was also weird because they kind of didn't really deserve to do that. But I think that this was Liam Cohen who worked for Sean McVeigh going up against Sean McVey. And there's something about, you know, building a program.

Sean McVeigh is, I mean, at this point, they're running the Rams coming up on like a decade. Sean McVeigh is obviously, you know, he's the teacher. Is he 40 yet? No, no, not even close. 39. 39. 38. 20-something?

He's 39. So, but I think that, like, Liam Cohen is the student with a way worse team and going against, like, the, you know, the master with the way better team. And I'm like, honestly, the first time, that happens, it's usually like Star Wars, like you get some limbs cut off. Like it's like, it's like, shan't am with the Falcons tonight. It's like those guys like not directly work for him, but I'm like kind of like they're all been past like, oh, the defense coordinator for the Falcons did.

And I'm like, the first time you meet up as you're trying to beat a program, like, you usually get the crap kicked out of you. And I think that's what happened to me. Well, I think the question is, is what is a fart or a chart for Jacksonville? Like, when you said shart, is that to you, them going seven and ten? Or is that to you being like, this will never work? like what is a shart to you? They have no shot at the playoffs.

Probably them going like 7 and 10. There's four and three going to the buy and I think the Jags are going to play the Raiders in week nine and probably kick the crap out of the Raiders and then they'll be 5 and 3. And then they're playing the Texans in week 10 and it's like they could for all we know be tied with the Colts for the division lead

if they beat the Texans in week 10. I don't know what it is. It's like to simple to boil this down, I kind of think the Jaguars can't catch and Trevor Lawrence isn't accurate. And that's kind of like the whole thing. And the situational awareness Lawrence has a weird,

for someone who's played, we're coming up, this is the fifth season. He really doesn't have a sense of the field. No. It's just like he's in, he has like a Trevor Lawrence,

I mean, he has like a Justin Herbert-esque arm. But the reason why Justin Herbert works when he throws those fucking missiles is it's right in your lap. Lawrence throws like with the same speed, but it's over here. No, he's not accurately.

And Brian Thomas is afraid of every ball and half these guys can't catch. I think the team. It's coming so fast. I believe the Jaguars lead the league in drops this year. They did. And penalty. It's a horrible combination of like, Lawrence is super inaccurate and his receivers can't catch.

So again, they lost 35 to 7. I was the two minute drill. Well, you got the ball of four minutes and I think they thought there were two. It was one of the weirder four minute drills I've ever seen at the end of the half. Like they, it was like they were trying really hard to get the Rams the ball back. It was bizarre. I generally believe in what Liam Cohen is doing and like you can see glimpses of it. I do think, though, like, if,

If we're talking about can this guy win, can Trevor Lawrence win two playoff games for the Jags? I think it's a shard. I don't think he can. Like, I don't think that's ever going to be him. I agree. I agree. Well, not ever.

Again, we have never felt as bad about Lawrence as we have felt about Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, or Daniel Jones by a lot. So I'm not going to say never about anyone this talented, but he... He'll have to be on a new team then. I don't know. I am open to the idea that maybe he needs to be, like, rehabilitated. like Al's, and again, like, Donald went to the Jets, they suck.

Baker went to the Browns, they suck. Danosones with the Giants, they suck. Trevor Went to the Jax. At what point? Like, how many teams? I'll probably be on the Steelers next year, and I'll have to figure this out. There you go.

By the way, they probably will win more than seven games. They play the Raiders, Titans twice, the Jets. Chargers on their six-string tackle. And the Cardinals. So they've got, yeah, they have win a game. Titans, yeah, the games that are going to be tough is they play the Texans,

they play the Colts twice. They get the Titans and the Broncos. So I don't know. Maybe they'll surprise us. Intrusive thoughts. Craig, I want to start with you. I guess we could,

I have two. I'll stick with Jacksonville first. I just think Travis Hunter is better than Brian Thomas. Oh. I just like, he should just be the number one wide receiver in Brian. Brian Thomas should play cornerback. Yeah,

maybe. Because he doesn't like contact or catching. When I watched the two of them play wide receiver, I'm like, that guy's better. Yeah. It's kind of as simple as that. Yeah, yeah.

I don't know. Brian Thomas kind of looks like he's the cornerback trying to play receiver. It really does. He looks like a kind of like a random wide receiver to me now. And Travis Hunter looks like a freak. Oh my God. That's a good. I mean, that's a good intrusive thought right there.

I mean, Travis Hunter today also had like a huge day. Kind of had his coming out party. Brian Thomas got hurt later in the game. Travis Hunter did a lot of his damage with Brian Thomas on the field. 14 targets, eight catches, 100 yards, touchdown. I don't know. I just think he's better. He's just play wide receiver.

A funny thing about, I mean, I don't disagree with you necessarily. And he doesn't even practice wide receiver. Right. He didn't play on defense in the first half, and then he did play a little bit in the second half in this game. I think they're still, like, figuring out how to use him on both sides of the football. But also, I would say, like, he probably should be better. I don't even know if he played defense today, which makes sense. I think I saw that he played someone in the second half.

When they were down 20, you know, it was a little late by then. It was like 21-0. I had an issue of thought today. Okay. Cam Ward's hands are way too small to play quarterback, and it'll never work. The worst defender against Cam Ward this year has been his own hands.

Cam Ward's dropping the ball. He's done it like three times to this year. He did two straight weeks where Cam Ward just dropped the football. Just like straight up trying to throw a pass. Not raining, nine. Just drop the ball. And so I was like, how small is hands again? I looked it up. Nine inches, eighth percentile among quarterbacks.

He's in the eighth percentile for handsized among quarterbacks. Everybody talked about Kenny Pickett. Nobody talked about Cam Ward's hands. No. Not once. Nobody talks about Cam Ward. That's true, too. We still aren't really that might.

I feel like he's gotten a pass for how bad they are. He's going to be bad for like three straight years. I'm going to be like, no well. And then we'll never think about him. And yeah. Kenny Pickett had little hand energy, I think, was the problem. Cam Ward has big hand energy. And what do you mean?

I'm not touching that one. Well, yeah, so that was my truth of thought. By the way, Kenny Pickett came in, I think, for one play today and just fumbled it. I think, well, he might be, I think his first play he fumbled. I don't, I think he might be, maybe played more than one play. He didn't get any first downs. So that wasn't great. I had another intrusive thought, and I'm like, this one's like me.

I actually like an intrusive thought. Like, this is not how I believe. And like, I don't believe this. I am not proud of that I thought this, but like, it was just a thing I thought. Okay. The Raiders defensive end, Max Crosby got hurt today. and my actual first thought was like, that's kind of his fault.

Because he never doesn't say it. He plays every snap, 100% of the snaps performatively. I'm like, maybe don't do that. Like, maybe you wouldn't get hurt if you didn't,

like, insist on playing literally every down. Try hard. Yeah. Yeah, kind of. Like, you know what I mean?

Yeah. Like, maybe there's reason every other player doesn't do that. Yeah, like, I mean, Anthony Richardson checked himself out

at quarterback once because he was kind of. Dude, I was thinking that when Bijjohn's out in fourth and one. He was like, oh, Richardson does it once, but then Bejohn's out of the one. Maybe follow Anthony Richardson's lead a little on this one.

He was out of the curve, really. Anyway, any of their interesting thoughts, Craig? So, you know those touch passes? Like Risholai said one today where it's like a little sweep kind of behind the offensive line and Mahomes just flips it to him and he, whatever. I don't think that should count as a passing touchdown. No, absolutely not.

So this is the dirty secret to Mahomes' 50 touchdown pass season. Yes, it is. Was five of them were like touch passes. I don't think it should count. It's a glorified handoff. Why do you not get a... It's a jet sweep. Yeah.

It's a loophole. It is a loophole because the definition is the ball. Literally, if the ball travels forward, like half an inch, that's a pass. Romo said on the broadcast today, he was like, I could have had 50 touchdowns if I could do that. And I was like, yeah, you're right. I mean, it's a smart play. It just shouldn't count as a passing touchdown because it's not. I mean, I agree.

Yeah. But I also will take it. Patrick Mahomes on my team. Relatedly, number one fantasy quarterback, Patrick Mahomes. I know. We had another intrusive thought here at Carlos, I need you to do. to come back in. Carlos said something today, Craig wasn't here yet. And I thought it was so

fucking crazy that I need Carlos to explain it. So just to set the stage here, so on YouTube TV, and if people don't have this, if this Sunday ticket or anything, you might not know we're talking about, but on YouTube TV with the multi-view, they have like these, like enjoy these moments of Zen. And they're all different. It's like the commercial breaks, they just do like a bee

will be going from flower to flower. It's like an ocean. It's like a dog or like they're pretty, I'm not going to lie. They're pretty, they're pretty, they're pretty birds chirping in a field. Right, it's actually quite lovely. And Carlos chimes into it and says, I hate the fucking moment of Zen. Why do you hate the Zen, Carlos? Are you forced to think your own thoughts? And that's a terrifying proposition.

It's been established on this podcast. I drive in silence sometimes. So, like, I'm fine with moments of silence in Zen. I'm just, when I'm watching a football game, I'm so used to the noise that the Zen like jars me out of it. And I'm like, what? I'm like looking at, I like, a commercial. The partial break is happening, and I'm, like, looking at my phone, and then all of a sudden, like, there's just silence, and I'm just like, I look up.

I'm like, what is going on? And then I have to change the channel. Carlos is too alpha. He's in football mode. His tea is so high that when it goes to, like, birds chirping in a meadow, he's like, this isn't football. You find this Zen jarring. It's just really annoying. Like, get rid of it, please.

It's annoying. Get rid of it. It's annoying. What do you mean? It's annoying. It's like the only time these companies, like these companies, like, these companies, with tech and everything. It's the only time they've,

like, they dominate her lives, they have every moment of time, the only time they've ever for one second been like, how about your mental health? It's like, how are you doing? Ocean race is like,

crashing in and out. Not for you. Like, wind blowing through the leads. Look, I'm 30 years old for like 28 years of my life. I've been so used to having like commercials and like background noise. And then all of a sudden they're like,

nah, never mind. See, this is brain rot. Like this is, this is, do you know what an Apple did the YouTube album? And like, they didn't occur to them that people would want to delete it.

Yeah. And so they didn't build it. Like, I don't think anyone at YouTube TV was like, what if people actually hate this and want more commercials? What's unique about Carlos is that he drives in silence, which doesn't make any sense. It means that like he gets in football mode and he's like, I need stimulation for eight straight hours.

Also, is it funny our podcast producer doesn't listen to podcast while he drives? He's like, I do that at work. I don't need to take that home with me. Dude, maybe this is more mouth sounds. Maybe I'm becoming a boomer, but I oftentimes will mute the game

the second it goes to commercial because I think they're so much louder. Well, the commercials, they make them so much louder. That law actually was just changed. Really? Yeah, you can no longer do that. Commercials cannot be louder than whatever the broadcast you're watching.

Huh. Sweet. Yeah. Because that was the thing. They were like way louder. That went big this week with hockey where ESPN is kind of like, you saw the ESPN,

they're kind of taking you off live to show you more commercials since people, people like noticed, which also back, bad plan. You thought people wouldn't notice this. But like...

It's supposed to be like a two minute commercial break slot. They would run like two minutes and ten seconds of commercials. Over time, you're like three minutes behind 90 seconds. And then there's only like three or four minutes behind. And then suddenly your buddy texts you like, what a collapse? And you're like, what? Dude, people are getting also,

key like no one thought like four weeks ahead of like when you implement this. People are getting ESPN bet bets cashing or losing while the game is not over. And they're like, that's weird while watching you spin. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I don't know what the plan was there.

Yeah. Anyway, uh, Carla, I think hating the moment as then is the funniest thing. It's funny than when Carlos, it's a great,

it is. Carlos would hate a house on the beach. Top of the Guinness factory. Carlos was like, I don't get this Guinness thing. The idea of like sitting by a river with a Guinness in his hand is a nightmare. Horrible.

He's too alpha. He was too alpha for that. He was drinking Moscow mules. He was like, okay. Sure. He was like, do you think they have a Moscow on me on? I was like, I don't, man.

I was like, no, I don't. I'm not asking them. You asked them. Play of the day, I mean, honestly, it was the show Haitani, everything for Friday. But if we just do Sunday, I, the Mahomes, this never fucking works. That's the most memorable play of the day. That's certainly the one that we will remember months. I want to just note, though.

This never works. Guess this play's over. You like, elbows his buddy. Get along of this. The other play I wanted... The other players want to note was that the Vikings didn't count because there's a false start, but I really wanted to see this happen was them. The Vikings tried to stop the tush push today by having a player literally, like,

just lay down in front of the center. Like, they literally, I mean, they literally just, like, been over. Like, they actually just had a guy get an all-for-s. Like, you know when people would tabletop people in, like, recess or whatever? That was a crazy trend. That was horrible. I hated that. You remember tabletop?

I guess... You push you over. I hated that was like a real moment in high school. People did that a lot. Yeah, we did that in our like elementary school. Now we're old enough that you could hit your head and like die. Dude, right. We're not doing that.

Yeah, I hated tabletoping. That was chaotic. That was too far for me. Yeah, way too dangerous. It's way too easy to fall down. Falling's crazy. Yeah. Like when you try, like you think like you...

I never supported tabletop. It always felt wrong. It's like the difference. between like teeping someone's house and then like egging someone's house. Yeah. I don't know. Middle ground here. I'm like,

oh, it's toilet. What's your position on pantsing? Oh. I thought pantsing was too far. It is too far. Because sometimes the underwear. You're playing with fire.

Yeah, you're playing fire on like the confidence that the underwear won't come down. Yeah, yeah. Maybe if you're just like... Because then there's just a dick. If you're like with your friends, if you're with your boys or something,

if it's like in the middle of P.E. And there's like, you can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. That had ruined your life. I still distinctly like remember my buddy at basketball practice, getting pantsed. And there was like, the girls basketball team was like practicing in the court next to us. And he was just like, I don't, he was so upset about it.

Yeah. Just like, that's like, it's kind of a dick thing to do. Speaking of a dick thing to do, Craig said before this show that there was no chance that I would drink an entire bottle of water during the show. I said there was no chance you would drink two. Okay, we're almost, we're wrapping up here And now you're clearly trying to do it to make a point Sorry Should we talk about pantsing more?

I just can't play, yeah, well, table to table topping's too far Table topping is too far table topping? Oh yeah, I got five starring. Oh, yeah, I got five starring. You just slap somebody really hard in the back So it makes the outline of your hand. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Our thing in high school is we would go up to people behind them

And just clap their shoulders really hard. Yeah. You still do that. Dude, I hated that. No, not at the level I was doing it. The real, people would be like, oh, God. Well, the real trick is you get somebody, you go, hey, I bet you can't touch that sign.

And then they'll go, yeah, and then they get ready to jump and then you, like, stomp down on their shoulders. It's awful. I hate it. Email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com if you have, I don't even know what to call this, but just like, other dumb shit you do like, table tops and five stars. Yeah, asshole pranks or whatever.

just like emails at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. I want to hear these stories and just other or weird ones or just like good stories about it. That's really funny. Pants, yeah, I'm sure there's good stories. Deadleg? Oh yeah.

Charlie Horse. It wasn't deadly. Just punch someone in the thigh. You go knee to the quad. Needed the side of the thigh. There's a lot of like violence on the playground that like doesn't actually get disgust. Yeah, dead arms.

Oh yeah. The dead arm thing. Oh, awful. That was the worst. No. Well, nogies. Nugies? Nugis.

I did not experience Nuggies. That was not a, part of my situation. I feel like Nogis are like in the 80s. Nugis is like something you get from your uncle in the 80s. I had one of my brother's friends did it, but not my... Honestly, the angriest it was was just... One of my brother's friends once just like, for no fucking reason.

Just I was sleeping and they had people over and just... I don't know why there was cheesecake, but he just took a slice of cheesecake and just smashed it on my face while I was sleeping. I was like... Matt, what the fuck? You would think you wouldn't go and do that to Craig right at, like, years later. We had to get up. I wouldn't shove cake at his face.

You just shoved your face. in my face. And your dirty clothes? No, it was like your dirty clothes? No, it was the armpit of your shirt. No. No, they were different. It woke me up.

No, no. I woke you up in my face, but the shirt, I just, you were standing up. No, I thought I was closing my eyes, like, laying down in the bed trying to get in it. Believe it or not, these are two separate things. Whatever. I shouldn't have brought it up. Yes. In our giant room that had like six beds in it and it was just one big studio apartment.

Anyway, worst play of the day, we somehow didn't mention the video Steelers, the Broger Jones, the Steelers tackle after Aaron Rogers through an incredible touchdown, Roger Jones tackled Aaron Rogers. Like, enjoy. He was like, oh my God! He came up and clapped him on the shoulders. And then tackled him,

and Rogers was like, what the fuck? It was like Lenny petting the bunny. Like, he's like, he meant well in that moment, but you know, he didn't know he was on strength. Rogers got up and pushed him and it was like, what the fuck. I mean, he's 41 years old. Roger Jones, he went 350 pounds.

Yeah. You can't do that. You also had a crucial penalty. It's like, I don't even like you. It's like, you're already on my shit list. The rest of them are all right. Zach, I like. Yeah.

The other worst place is there, I'll never get over Steelers not covering Jimar Chase on his 23rd target of the game. That was just, that was an old timer. I do just have to shout out after Tua got benched or whatever they took him out. Quinn Ewers came in, who has randomly made the backup today instead of Zach Wilson. Quine you were through, I think it was

through to the most covered player I'd ever seen. I think there were five Browns guys who could have like made a play. I think it was the worst I don't think it's gonna

I don't know if you're gonna find it or whatever. It didn't get picked it was almost picked. There were too many people there to pick it. Like they were all it was like it was straight to him

and it was so such a good pass to the defender he dropped it. It was like piranus. Like there were so many like they could and no one got a clean shot on it because it was just like

I also can't yeah Cammore dropping the ball the bear's center holding onto the ball on fourth down. Like he did a full start but he handed to Caleb but he took it back

as he realized he was wrong. And like just with like I've never seen it happen. He's like, can we restart? Tried to grab it and the center like took it back. Just kidding.

Try to reset like that was bad. But I also just want to shout on Chivon Diggs getting concussed in his own home on Thursday night and rolled out for Sunday. And what happened? No.

We have no idea. I actually wouldn't be shocked if the Cowboys don't know either because he probably, I also probably never telling him with that. I think that's brutal. Got to have that sticky mat

down in the shower. Yeah. Yeah, so I think those are worse than those One team missed two extra points today, but that probably doesn't matter DK, what age do you think you need the bar to get out of the tub? I mean, pretty old. Yeah. Like when you can't really walk.

Yeah. I feel like Flacco needs one. He's getting close. Yeah. Like MLB catchers, maybe. It's tough. Yeah, the knees go. The catchers, you know.

Yeah. Were we on this pot or I was like they should, we should have a stool to sit on catchers? They should have a stool. Like, what do we do? A little. They should get to serve. already build the pads in that you can basically

sit on the pads. Like at that point, just give them a stool. Why don't they get to sit? Who cares? Who cares who they sit? That's a good point. Because they got to fucking move around and shit. They have to block the ball. Give them the option of a stool if they want. It's a good ball. The pitches are coming in incredibly fast. Why can't the ump sit? Why can't the umpires sit? You have to have the mobility to block the ball.

Because it would have to be such a high chair. It would be weird. Because it has to be above the catcher. Because you get in the way, I guess. Yeah. And again, it'd be awkward. He'd be like a really tall stool. The tennis to get the big ones. Craig, they've been doing this. They've been playing the sport for... And they've made a lot of changes.

And they've made a lot of changes. We're all kind of bandwagon baseball fans. Like, I, you know, I parachute into the playoffs, and I love playoff baseball, but I'm not watching, like, full baseball games during the summer, like, nine innings in a row. Like, I probably watched, like, five Yankees. I actually think if I was watching a lot of A's games,

I would want my friends to tell me to stop. Yeah. That's, like, not healthy. Like, the Yankees sitting down on television and watching the entire game first and ninth inning, like, with my full attention, probably, like, five times this year. Yeah.

They're probably all red sex games. but like parachuting in it is always so funny now that we're going to the robot umps eventually that most of baseball catching is tricking them like it's like the entire premise is framing the pitch lying

and now that we have that like zone and it's going to just be it is incredible now that the zone's there to watch a ball and they just catch it and move it like slay it and they just frame it so good at it too yeah it's just funny that that was like it's like the entire point it's tricking the umpire

of every play. And yet I still don't want robots. No, I like human. Interesting. Okay. Slippery slope, Daniel. What's next? A bunch of clankers playing that.

Clankers playing quarterback? Yeah, I don't know. Clanker umps. There's not going to be umps back there anymore? No, it's performative. It's, it's, because are they going to still ring people up and shit?

They'll be like the queen. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Because like part of the, part of, half of the fun in baseball, half, exactly half of the fun of baseball is, the way that umps ring people. Oh, they're just like, like throwing one hand up.

It's so funny. Like Leslie Nielsen and a naked gun. He right? Totally. Also, I would say half the fun of baseball is being fucking pissed at the ump. Oh, I know.

Who are they going to be mad? Yelling, come on blue. Come on blue. Like half the point. Half the fucking fun. Baseball's boring. It's past through the generation. Yeah.

You know, you think that was a ball? Get off your knees. Blue, you're blowing the game. That's the best. We go to a baseball game. Jackie's favorite thing to do is like, Who's paying you? Yeah, it's like the best part.

Skippy the other day asked me. She goes, do they always wear blazers? I was like, I mean, not all of them, but yeah. That's a great boy. The umps are out there in blazers. Well, because NBA and NFL refs are in the black and white stripes. Why not the fucking umps? I was like, they all don't, they all, they all, they all, they all, they all, they all, they all, they all, all of them don't wear blazers.

Are they always, uh, business casual? Uh, huh. Cocktail jar The NASCOT No of a wedding afterwards I guess Yeah It's really funny I mean like baseball

That's what's great about baseball It goes back to like 150 years Or whatever it is I mean they're playing pants The players Yeah I mean it's also funny That the managers

Are they're wearing the fucking uniform Which is like so great Imagine Steve Kerr in a warrior's jersey Watch like Charlie Manuel back of the day Like just like wearing the jersey With the pot belly It's so funny

Let's get Mike McDaniel in a football jersey out there. Imagine we put Andy Reed in a jersey. Like the big ass, like shoulder pads. A helmet on? Mike McDaniel never would have been hired if they made it wear a jersey. You look like Triviann Henderson. Oh my God. Blazers.

I think, yeah, burn book. This is easy. Justin Fields. Justin Fields is super burned. And it's partly because he's had three games of 25 or more and then three games of five or last. And now he's like, he's got a fuck boy. You're going to call me or not. I don't know.

You know what's funny is because he could like get named the starter and have an incredible day next week. But also if he gets benched, you should probably cut him, right? You know, one of the one quarterback league, like, you probably got to cut him. He's one of the few quarterbacks that can legitimately put up 25 points easily

or get benched. I know, it's weird. In any given week. You don't have to cut them, but like you can. It's weird. So Burnbook is week one, Jalen Waddle,

week two, Mark Andrews, week three as Abe Pacheco, week four, Calvin Ridley. Week five, Trayvian-Henderson. We really should burn them every week. Week six is Tony Pollard and week seven is Justin Fields. I got to say, this is aging quite nicely. This entire list is kind of dog shit.

Isaiah Pacheco has been okay. I guess we're... No. I mean, he had a touchdown today, but he's... No, but there's no ceiling. Like, literally, like, the Chief's getting 70, 80 rushing yards still feels like it. Tony Pollard has gotten exactly nine points in every single game. Yeah, he's miserable to deal with.

Can't take him. All right, shall we break bread? Oh. Tell us what's going on here, Derek. So the Danies are in town. I have baked for them once before. I sent them banana bread. Nailed it to us.

I mailed it to them. Yeah, to Seattle and D.C. But I, over the last three days, I was kind of home all weekend. And when I'm not going to go anywhere for a little bit, sometimes I bake bread. It's my third attempt at sourdough bread. Wow. And I got to be honest. I thought I did a really good job.

You take it up 60% of your energy? Yeah, I think this was my best. Look at that. Okay, wait. Hold on. So this is, okay. And I bought some French butter. I will say, I like your crumb structure. Thank you.

I think it's impressive. I think you got a good rise. I think that it's well proved. I, you know, obviously... And now it just sounds like you're talking about golf. A little too much color in the bottom, but that's okay. I mean, live and learn. I think the score, like, the score, it's a very nice score.

Thank you. And then, yeah, just your bubbles, your erration. Like, I think that this is a good, healthy starter. Like, this is good. Thank you. I like this. I put a lot of effort into it. I love making bread.

Hell yeah. I want to eat it. Yeah, let's look at it. We should... Should we just rip it with our hands? Yeah, do it. Yeah, don't you have French butter? French butter.

Wait, let me see if I've lactate. I do you just carry a puck around at all times? Yeah, I do. I have it on me. So go ahead and just like wrick around. Lactate sponsor me. If anyone from Lactate's listening, I swear to God, I'll do anything. You should hit up our sales team.

Dude, if anyone from our sales team is listening, please contact Lactate. I literally had it on me. Do you ever think that maybe eating bread on a podcast wasn't like the best content? Also, how do we eat this without Mel Sums? show that I was like, I want to give it to you on the pod. So wait, how do we eat this without the mouse sounds being on the show? It's not crunchy, luckily, so that's not going to be.

Oh, wait, shine. I was taking my luck, dude. Grab a rip. Oh, this is sick. I want to take a bite without the letter first. So excited. We're literally sampling. Breaking bread. I love the way your bread smells.

I love your sweaty balls. I mean, this is really good. Thank you. I beg you this morning. There's a little. bit of rye flour in it. So I had a little bit of more tang kind. Wow.

I don't know why, but I genuinely think it's incredible that this is just flour, water, and salt. Dude, it's amazing. You know? Over like three days. The second bite was way better. Incredible. I'm very, hey.

Thank you. Handshake. Paul. Paul Hollywood, baby. This is. I'll give you high five. Yeah. The DK.

High five. I think there's no better food that bread and butter. High quality bread, high quality butter. the best. Thank you. I'm saying that for years. Almost derailed our entire show. Did we ever tell the story in the show? I don't know.

Yeah, we did. I think so. D.K.'s like once was enough. Hifens has got in a fight because I really love bread as a What was it like a side dishraft? And you took bread and butter first and aside distraft.

And like over like French fries. You know what? Stand by. This is better than French fries. I mean, this is. Yeah, but this isn't a side. This is, I mean, we're just, you know. I'm not bringing it up yet.

Literally the closest our podcast ever came to ending was like our argument over bread and butter. Craig was, we actually were, Craig just wasn't there. You came in like, like, Challenge Gambino and that meme with the pizzas and community. He's on fire. He's like, oh my God, he's like, oh my God. Like, we were just on the verge of breaking up.

All right, should we get out of here? Thank you. Thank you guys. Oh, yeah, right. Okay. Sorry, I was overwhelmed. This is great. Really good bread.

Thank you. Thank you, Greg, for making his bread. That was really nice of you. That was really kind. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Kai. Thank you,

awesome. Thank you, literally everybody who's helping us with the show this week. We're going to be here all week. We're here all week. You know,

we are here all week doing a bunch of shows in person, so it'll be really fun. It's core week. So, like, everyone from the ringers here. It's going to be awesome. Shout out to... My bread.

Yeah, shout out to your bread. That was awesome. I'm so proud of it. It's the bad. You made that. You made that. I don't have a job. I want a tremendous-looking,

loaf you have there. I don't have a child, but I have a loaf. Thank you to everyone who email email us at ringer fancy football at e-mail.com. We want trivia for waivers. Fantasy court for this week. Anything you're arguing about in your group chat, we want fantasy courts, and email us the weird I like what Craig put it, asshole pranks.

Like just stories about them or weird ones you have are just like, mostly I want good stories about those things. I'm sure they're good ones. Email us those. Yeah. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Okay. Craig, you just said, yeah, yeah.

So when I, you say that. I was like, oh, got one. What's their big song? They have a couple. Heads will roll. Also, Gold Lion, I think it was like, gold lion, I think it was like, gold lion's gonna tell you when the line is,

or something like that. Is the heads will roll, there's a remix to that. That's really popular, right? That's like what's in Project X. That sounds right. Off, off with your head. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like, dun, dun, dun, dun, done, done, I always say that's a remix. Yes, yes. In my head, like, the Bruno Mars song where he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I think that's them, but it's not, obviously. Oh, I know you're talking about it. But I just, yep, yep.

That's when I read their name, I just hear Bruno Mars. Yeah, Hed rule, A-track remix is honestly one of the most iconic, like, house songs of kind of like our high school generation when that stuff was really big. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, my God. A song was iconic. Can we play? How does this work? Can we play it? Is it a fight? This is, like, I could run a five-minute mile to this song. Oh, my God. Yeah.

When this comes in in Project X, you're just like... You want a shadow box. Man, that's good. Oh, my God. Good one. We've never done the AAS. I think I saw the AIAs at a... Maybe it was Warped Tour or something.

I saw them at some festival at the Gorge. Yeah. It was great. Nice. That's cool. Wait, where's the gorge? The gorge is in George, Washington. I think it's George or near there. It's in George Washington.

There's a big, it's a, I've showed you guys pictures of this. It's like a music venue that's like on the cliffside. And it overlooks a giant like gorge of the river. So the gorge is in George Washington. I believe it's near George. I don't know. What is, yeah. It's called the gorge.

That's the name of the venue. Did you see that movie on Apple? The gorge? No, but I did watch a preview. With Miles Teller and on you Taylor-Jaylor. Yeah. Didn't see it. Cool.

Good story. Yeah. Didn't quite crack my watch list. Yeah. There's a lot of content. It's a lot out there. It's tough these days, you know? Streaming, straight to streaming movies.

Yeah. That's hard. But anyway, yeah, this place is, it's a cool, it's a cool music venue. I feel like we've had this conversation. Every time we have a conversation, I'm like, this sounds familiar. You know what movie I do love, though? Upon Second Rewatch, Happy Gilmore, too. Totally.

I don't know, I don't know what it is, but on... Incredible taste in movies. Upon rewatch, there was a lot there. Buttering is bread. He knows where his bread is butter. Oh, this is a metaphor. You know where we went to... Be wrong, we're still going.

You know where we went the other day? Remember when you guys were here last time and we went and got like pastries at the Brentwood Country Mart? Yeah. I saw Sandler there yesterday. I was standing next to them. Are you serious?

How did you not... We were together all day? How did you not bring this up? What the fuck, man? You didn't say anything, I assume. You say, hey, Sandman. I love to have to be a little more. Shooter.

Hey, Happer! Can I have one of us? I have three every day just to keep me strong. We slander out. I'm going to live. I literally love Adam's Handler. I know. I love him.

No. You will not make this butt. Yeah, I walked right by him. That's awesome. He was waiting to sit down to eat. Was he wearing that like baggy-ass jimpants he was wears? Yeah. Like a like a whole.

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