The Ringer NFL Show - Week 8 Recap: Sad About Skattebo, Tush Push BS, Jon Taylor Hat Trick, and Our Friend Alvin

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

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Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hedon. Today I'm joined by Danny Kellan, Craig, Robert, but we're going over Sunday of week eight of the NFL season. Honestly, the games kind of sucked. I feel like that was the pumpkin patch weekend. That was really, I mean, just we could get to Sunday football here in a second, but the Texans won by 11, the Ravens won by 14,

the Eagles won by 18, the Patriots won by 19, the Broncos and the Bucks won by 20, the Colts by 22. We're just 22. I can't even count it anymore. Dolphins by 24 bills by 31. DK. That was fine. Yeah, I mean, it was ugly.

And then we also didn't get, you know, six teams playing this week. So there's just less, less teams to watch. Yeah, it was an ugly week. I saw somebody, our buddy Joe fan tweet out, this was the worst slate of games we've seen in memory. I mean, one single score game. There was one game decided by one point. Every other game was decided by multiple touchdowns.

Yeah. It's truly unbelievable. Yeah. So it was. And it was the Jets Bengals. It was the Jets Bengals. That was a pretty ugly way to have a close game. It was a pretty ugly version.

So I do want to- Two hobos fighting in the street. Yeah. With bum fights. Email us ringer fantasy football at gmail.com for trivia. Emails for fantasy court cases. We have our own fantasy court case. We'll get to that either tonight or this week or whatever.

Drama in the Ringer League. I want to do something of football. I don't know what order we want to go with, either the uniforms or Michael Parsons or what Steve. Craig, your Steelers played. It was close and then it was very not close in this game. The Steelers ended up losing by another multiple touchdown game, but 35, 25.

But it was close. It just wasn't, though, in the second half at all. I don't think it was that close. The Steelers kryptonite is that they can't guard the other team's best players, which is a problem. You know, that'll come back to bite you throughout the end of the game. The anti-Belichick. Yeah.

We're going to take away your worst players. Inverse. Yeah. Yeah, Tucker Kraft tore them up. I mean, they gave up a franchise tying record of 20 consecutive completions for Jordan Love. I look, I don't know. This just kind of ties into what we've been saying that like this is a 9 and 8, 10, and 17. They had an easy schedule to start the year.

The Packers are better. The defense is a problem. The offense is fine. And I think the biggest issue is like when the Steelers get knocked off their rhythm, when there's like one negative play drives dead. it's like if it's first in 10 or second and five or third and two I trust Rogers I trust the offense they can move their way forward but the second it's like first in six first and 15 second and long third and long

they just can't do anything they don't have the they don't have the juice it's a hard world to live in too because the they make a lot of penalties and they have a lot of just like mental errors it feels like they don't have a ton of they're definitely not superior and talent to most of the teams that they're playing so the the Steelers fine line. I'm going to be delicate about this

because obviously the Steelers are a very well-coached team. However, they do a lot of things that we would, for other coaches say, perhaps these are characteristics of a poorly coach team.

Like all the drive-killing penalties and I actually now think that's the perfect way to put it, D.K. The Bill Belichick, we just take away your best player, make you play left-handed, and we always kind of heard that. We're like, what's so hard about that?

And then you watch the Steelers play football. It is pretty incredible. Yeah, and also, again, you see the mix, the Steelers' lack of players in their prime. There's a lot of old guys, and there's a lot of young guys in youth. Craig, you always say, like, you don't want players in fantasy or real life

where it feels like a prayer or a miracle. Third in double digits is just, it just feels like an absolute miracle is required. They don't have the block. to let Roger sit back there on a third and long to actually let things develop. That's why it's all super quick. He's also old, so it's like he doesn't want to wait back there for a long time. It just doesn't really work.

They have these like big, slow tight ends. Like things need to develop. They need these guys moving across the field. When it's like third and 12, it's just really hard for this team to move the ball. Yeah, they do. Yeah, on third and three, they have all the big lineman-ass tight ends run crossing routes. And on third and 13, they have all the big-ass linemen run crossing routes. Yeah.

Well, this is something that I was looking at prior to the game. And, you know, Aaron Rogers, in the last game, he actually ended up throwing deep a lot. But he is right now, Aaron Rogers is third to last in intended air yards per attempt. So like Craig said, it's all quick game stuff. It's all short stuff. Hoping the guys can make, you know, hey after the catch or break tackles or whatever. And it's like Craig said, it's a hard place to live just because you kind of have to have everything go right. So with that said, one of the reasons there's no time, Micah Parsons,

was unbelievable in this game. He kept, it was funny because it was what Michael Parsons was doing. I don't know how you guys played Madden. That's how I would play Madden, what Michael Parsons is doing, have your best linemen, you kind of pick him up off the left tackle, and you just have him run wherever. That was unbelievable. The amount of times, you know, we joked, I think a couple years ago at this point,

we said Parsons wasn't playing D-end. He was playing free end. But tonight, I think they really went, they spammed it. Like, he just, I feel like every single passing down, he was behind the defensive tackle. And he really was, it was almost like a mirror of the quarterback thing. It was like center and nose guard. And then he looked like you could, if you looked for eighth of a second,

you'd almost think that he was the quarterback. If you were looking like not that closely at the screen where he was lining up. And he would just, like that one play where they, he was, he actually was lined up at edge. And then they motioned John Smith there. And he got around John Smith, cut inside the left tackle, then fought through the left guard. And then still got to Rogers was. Unbelievable.

Yeah, he was, it was almost distracting for Rogers. It was like it was the only thing Rogers' eyes could focus on pre-snap was what Michael Parsons were doing. And he would almost feel ghost pressure from him even when he wasn't generating it. Yeah, Packers are a better team. I think the takeaways are the Steelers' defense is the biggest problem with this team. I think the offense can score a little bit. Like, they can still move the ball. The defense can't stop anybody.

Like, they can't. They can't stop the run. They can't stop the past. They can't stop the best player on any team. I think we should parlay this right into winners and lose. because I think this dovetails nicely to my winner, which was the Ravens today. The Ravens beat the Bears 30 to 16.

It was basically a playoff game for the Ravens. It saved their season or I guess kept it alive. It also kept us alive in Ringer 107 because we bet minus six and a half and somehow won with Scoot Huntley. Snoop. Snoop. Oh, Snoop.

Snoop. Snoop. I'm saying Scoot Henderson and Blazers. What was it? Sloop? What was the animal word that you said where they lay with their back legs out. Oh, they splute. Splute. Splute. Hibloot. You know what's funny, my friend just said the word splute this weekend, and I had never heard it until you said it. Same. He said it.

I saw it like three times. Splute is a spayed her by now. Splute is a thing. You're going to see it everyone now. It's all you, they sploot. I'm sorry I doubted you. Hyvitz. But it's Tyler Huntley, right? That's his action. Yeah, Tyler only played great. Or he played good enough. And I actually don't know why the hell Cooper Rush was not why was Cooper Rush the backup quarterback and not Tyler Huntley from a hundred percent quarterback Tyler Huntley. The Tyler Huntley being like the idea that Cooper Rush

would be Lamar's backup and that you would have a stylistically non-Lamar Jackson ass quarterback. I understand Lamar has good numbers in the pocket and everything but obviously the Ravens offense functions better when someone who even remotely resembles Lamar Jackson's skill set is can run an RPO.

Yeah and so I understand the Bears defense is banged up. It wasn't good but Jalen Johnson, who's the best players out for the season. And then they're also Tyrick Stevenson of Hail Mary Fam as a shoulder-in-shoe. And then also Kyler Gordon. So the bear's secondary was the strength. And now it's the weakness. So that's the caveat.

But I mean, yeah, you watch this game today and you're kind of like, wow, Snoop Huntley was way better than freaking Cooper Rush. Yeah, he was smart. He also ran for 58 yards, which is the second most yards of any Ravens quarterback this year, which is pretty impressive. But basically, if the Ravens lost this game, they go one in six. And then it's like, there's basically only one team in history. It was like the 1970 Bengals, I think, made the playoffs after 1 and 6.

But they would have needed to go 9 and 2 if they lost this game. Now there are two games back in the win column from the Steelers. And I'll call it right now. This is kind of what we've been saying. The Ravens play Miami on Thursday night next week. Now, I think Lamar is going to play, although we thought he was going to play last week. I think Lamar's back for that game because he's from Miami. But we can get into that in a second.

Okay. So the Ravens play, the Dolvins, the Vikings, the Browns, and the Jones. Jets are the Ravens next four games. They're going to win all four of those. They will be four and over that stretch. And the Steelers play the Colts, then the Chargers, the Bengals, and the bear. Steelers are going to go two and two over that stretch. Both of these teams are going to be six and five heading into week 12. Craig is just laying out the future right now. That will happen. They will both be six and five heading into week. I love the confidence. The Ravens are favored to win the division right now on Fendhal. That's so why I want,

I wish. And they should be. I know, but it's just so funny. Craig, you said this. You've Of course. You've been saying this for weeks. I will give you this. So I do want to, I do think Lamar plays on Thursday. Now, the Ravens, I want to, let's take two seconds ago and everything with the Ravens this week just because it was funny. We took them in the Rigger 107, the contest. And we were, you know, we have to decide that on Thursday afternoon.

So it's always tough and the injuries and stuff. But the Ravens had this crazy thing where they listed Lamar Jackson as full participant in practice on Friday. Also, John Harbaugh said full participant in practice. Honest mistake, though. It might have been an honest. This was some blatant ass lying. And it was like, it's harmless to a degree. Do you think it was lying or do you think it was an honest mistake?

One trillion percent lying. And here's why. I learned afterward. I didn't realize how specific the languages the NFL has for what full participant is. I didn't either until I heard Florio talk about it. It's so specific. If you don't know what we're talking about for, I can't think of any specific examples, but just in case, I don't know, there might be a giant.

gambling scandal in another sport, in which case there's practice participation and the health of players is, you know, super relevant to the line movement. The NFL for decades has had, all the sports have mandatory reporting of injury information and it's because of which has happened in the NBA. So they have really specific things of what full participant means, limited, etc. Lamar, they said full participant, he was running the scout team. He was pretending to be Caleb Williams in practice. Yeah, like he literally participated in the practice fully,

but not with the first team, which you need to do. What I didn't know is a full participant. The NFL actually defines that as not full participant. They're like, if you're in scout team and usually you're a starter, that doesn't count. So anyway, it's not that big of a deal. Is that just for a quarterback or for all positions? I think it's all positions.

I think it's all positions because it's true. If you are a starter, if you are a starter and you're not practicing as a starter, then it's limited, even if you play if you're a full participant in practice. We would never be... We would never be talking about this this high in the episode, if not for... It was a thumb in the fucking eye

to, like, the NFL and Roger Goodell to do this on Friday after the NBA just got fucking blown up by this thing where, like, LeBron's injury information's being relayed to people and Chauncey Billups, I mean, is like arrested. Like, this is all... So for the Ravens to wake up and read the fucking news,

like, see that on Thursday. Then the Ravens, like, 24 hours to think about it. You know what? we're going to lie and the line move five points it moved to yeah it moved to minus one and a half right yes from six so anyway I'm not trying to defend the ravens we can move on but I just think I'm not like defending I'm like oh no the Roger Goodell but I'm like it's kind of like flipping off the principle it's just like why would you do that he's having a bad day I don't do you do you think though I'm I'm I could be totally naive here but like even if they just said he was limited I feel

like, I mean, the bears were preparing as if Lamar was playing anyway, like calling him full versus limited. I feel like it's not that big of a difference on Friday. If you're preparing for Lamar, like, no, it totally is time on task. It does matter. But anyway, it doesn't, it's just, it's not worth this for time. I just thought it was ridiculous. By the time that they reported that Lamar was a limited versus full, it's like the bears were preparing for Lamar all week. Everybody thought Lamar was. Yeah, but they lied through their fucking teeth. Like it just, it was a bad day to do that. That's all. It was a stupid day. timing was bad, but I'm a little bit, I'm a little dubious that it was like blatant lying to

screw up, screw up the bears. I don't know. I think it was blatant lying to screw up the bears. But like, it was like Friday, I don't know, because they have, why wouldn't they have gotten ahead of that? Or that's just a weird time to do that to me. Why would you do that on a Friday? After the week of practice, when they've already been preparing for Lamar all week. Here's how I, here's how I would say it. Ben Johnson even said, he was like, we were preparing for Lamar all week. I think, yeah. That's why they lied. Somewhere in the middle where I think it's something closer to where they were trying to, you know, not let the bears know who was going to start.

So they were trying to be sneaky in that way. But the technicality where John Harbaugh said full participant and then didn't realize that that actually meant he was playing with the first team and not the scout team. Like I could give him a little bit of a benefit about that he didn't realize. Like that was the specific rules of the language of how they'd report. Like my guess is they were trying to obviously trick the bears But I think the technicality of the rule Maybe that wasn't on purpose

They were bending the rules And then it was because they're in this silo Because they know that their whole season's The blind for this game And then some taps on the shoulders like hey This was a bad day to do this And you're like oh fuck Illegal

I feel like you would want to lie the other way though Like wouldn't you want people to think Tyler Huntley was starting And then Lamar actually starts And then you're like holy shit We've been preparing for Tyler this whole week rather than the opposite Yeah but he wasn't good to play

So that you didn't have I don't know man But this is what happens I don't know. He didn't play in the game. So I don't know what to tell you. Anyway, I can't believe we're talking about this. More importantly, I have a loser.

Me, the Giants fans. That's my loser of the fucking week. How about Scataboo? Not you. No, me. Because the Giants lost 38 to 20. I don't care about the score. Kim Scatabas leg is cooked.

I'm depressed. Don't say it. What do you want me to say? It looked like that guy. He broke his ankle. He dislocated it. It was horrific. It looked.

It was the Dack Prescott. It was the Dack Prescott thing. It's so funny, I was watching the Dack Prescott thing with a friend, and I actually got up for a second. I missed that specific play. And he was like, oh, my God, you're going to see this. And I look. And I'm like, it's fine.

His shoe came off. What's the big deal? And like, that was what Scataboo. It looked like the same thing. It was horrible. You know what's bad when Philly gives him a standing ovation? Yeah. It looked horrible.

Like one of the grosser injuries. It's so weird that any day you, can just watch the NFL and see the most grotesque thing you've seen in a month just on CBS or something like that. It's very bizarre. It was so- They show it four or five times. Yeah. Also, like an eight-year-old could just be sitting and watching that. Unbelievable. He tried to get up. He was like, get me up. And his center was like, no. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug. Stayed out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

My brother was watching this here. My brother is in DC-2, and he was watching this in an Eagles bar. And the bartender, my brother noticed his first at this bar. like and he just is sitting there distraught. Bartender gave him a cigarette. Jeez. He just, he just, I don't know, scouting him, man,

Leake Devers towards ACL. Like, I just dable down 20 points as having Jackson's art running third and fourth down keepers, like just taking hits down 20 points with two minutes left. And I'm like, I just, yeah,

this was pretty depressing. The Eagles win was two weeks ago. Yeah. It's pretty bad. It's crazy how quickly things. Yeah, like two weeks ago, Hyviz is calling me from a bar,

and then two weeks later, his brother was getting a cigarette. Two weeks ago, Hyphitz was smoking a cigarette because he just felt like he just... Happy him. Are those happy cigarettes or sad cigarettes? Dude, I... So Bobby Skinner at Talking Giants point this out. This one, I think I knew this, but it hurt to see.

Last nine seasons. Eight of the last nine at the week eight point, the Giants have either been one and seven, or two and six. Eight of the last nine seasons, they've had one or two wins half or three the year. So it's just you're over. Eight of the nine seasons,

the season's over. It does seem like there are more things that you can root for this year. Obviously, like Jackson Dart is exciting. The young nucleus on defense is exciting. There's at least things to feel positive about, right? Yeah, there were. And then my, I've, my baby boy just got fucking, it was awful.

Well, I'm sorry, Hyfitz. I am sorry. 1001 carries 4. This game also sucked. Like this Giant's Eagles game, the Tush put, there were a lot of bad refereeing calls in this game, the number, which I won't even get it and all that because the Giants got their asses kicked,

so I'm not going to bitch about the refs, even though the refs were horrific. But the specific one that I was, the Tush push being whistled dead. Yeah. I know I'm biased. I think that was one of the worst calls of the entire season. Horific.

We just described that. We almost need a new category called like the Tush push complaint of the week, because it feels like every week there's something new. This is a good segue because this is my loser of the week, which is the Tush Push's PR battle. The Tush Push, I mean, people are turning on the Tush Push like they turned on Ryan Reynolds. There was like a whole offseason people, sorry, was that like, are they not? No, it just came out of nowhere.

Yeah, throw a mid-Mobile sponsorship out now. I love Ryan Reynolds. I love Ryan Reynolds for what it's worth. I mean, I don't know anything about this latest controversy, so whatever. I'm saying out of that. but um is there oh i didn't know there was a what am i i think no it's like you know how he saw barbie his wife's controversy i think he just learned about that oh you're talking about the it ends with us thing i'm not i'm not reason up on that so i look you know i'm late to everything i just watched barby

last weekend relitigating everything from last year with dk would be great last year tonight anyway um i i would say over the offseason the general gist was that people were in favor of the tush push because they thought it would be really unfair to cancel this one play that works for this one team. Like, you know what I mean? That was my argument. Like, I was there. Highfits, of all people, should have hated the tush push and even he

was like pro tush push. People are just mad because it's one team. I think the Eagles are, and this wasn't really their fault, but the, a couple weeks ago when they ran four straight, people start turning on it like, okay, this needs to go. We don't want this anymore. All the false starts. This man is

ruining golf. And now this play in particular, Jalen Hertz takes a snap, kind of dives on top of the pile, someone's pushing him from behind, and rather stupidly, reaches the ball out. Like you do at the goal line,

not on for a first down. And as he's still being pushed forward, like going down the little landslide of people, Keylon Timito comes and just grabs the ball and runs, like slides around and catches the ball. And they called forward momentum dead. It was probably the worst,

most cowardly call I've ever seen. I think, It's the worst call of the year, and the only reason it won't be remembered that way is because the Giants lost the game by quite a bit. But that was the worst. It was wild. Because if Hertz had not fumbled and instead, a second later, reached ahead again and got pushed for the first down, they obviously would have given him the first down. Like, they would have kept that play going. Exactly.

And what's also frustrating is the one giant hole in all of instant replay is the concept of forward progress in part because when the refs blow the whistle, the play is dead. What was annoying about it was I never really had thought about this until today but it's funny because they're like, well, you know, when they do the instant replay, they can't hear the whistle. But then the broadcast just played it with the sound and the whistle

very clearly went off while Kevin Tipito's sitting there with the ball. Like he's just sitting the ball and they blow the whistle and he looks and he's like why did you blow the whistle? I have the ball. Also, I think just like to simplify this whole thing like forward progress doesn't fucking matter on the push push. They never call forward progress being stopped. That's the whole

reason it works all the time is because they just keep pushing him until the fucking landslide goes out and he's like five or six yards down the field. They almost never call forward progress stopped. I can't remember the last time I saw forward progress stopped on the tush push. This will happen again though too, not with the whistle and the forward progress, but I've

always thought what will happen with the tush push is it's not like, I mean, just this, it's Cormick Sneaks. It's completely unreviewable. And I just remember thinking there was going to be a a thing where did he get it or not? And there's going to be a play of whether a fumble or something or just did he cross the plane. There's going to be one day where they just have to make a call and none of the refs have any idea. And he's going to just be in a scrum and they're going to just have to pretend that they know and the replays won't help.

And they're going to have to just make a call. And you're like, well, the call on the field. And I'm like, anyway. I didn't think that Brian Daywall was all of us when he threw a flag to challenge it even though you can't challenge it. Dude, he was so. He crashed out. I'm challenging the idea that you can't challenge. I declare bankruptcy.

I'm throwing this anyway, even though I know I'm going to lose it. Also, I want to just shout out Kavon, Pat Leonard, who covers the Giants, posted that Kavon Tibido was asked with the touch push fumble problem

and the ref said. And Kavon Tibido about the ref explanation said, sounds like some bullshit. And then Brian Burns turns to him in the locker and says, dude, you're going to get fine. Kavanaugh was, oh, sorry, that was a great call. So, you know. us. Okay.

D.K., any other winners or losers for you today? Let's see here. I think C.J. Stroud, we got to acknowledge. Had a good game. We've been hating on C.J. Stroud a lot this year, I would say. You can say me. I've been hating on them. You have, but I've also been very frustrated with it. I mean, I've always believed that C.J. Stroud is a very talented quarterback,

but the offense just looks like shit for the vast majority of the last year and a half or whatever. But they look great against a admittedly beat up 49. Niners defense. But if you go back the last few weeks, and again, they're not playing like the best defenses in the NFL or anything. But over the last four weeks, so the last five, four games for Houston, they're fifth and points per game, sixth and points per drive, tenth and success rate, 11th and third down conversion rate, sixth and yards per game.

They only have two turnovers. They're one of the best, their second best in turnover margin. This is a team whose offense is, I think, trending in the right direction. Outside of that Seahawks game last week, Seahawks have one of the best defenses in the NFL. But I think overall, there's reasons to be a lot. little bit optimistic about the Texans. I think their young core of skill players is starting to really shine. Xavier Hutchinson and Jaden Higgins both had touchdowns today.

I thought Jalen Noel or Noel looks good out there. He's making place for them. He's got a little of explosiveness to him. Woody Marks has been pretty exciting. He kind of reminds me a little bit of Jalen Warren in the fact that he can kind of do a little bit on the ground, but he's really good in the passing game. He breaks tackles. He's got a little juice on the ground for them.

So he's been a nice complimentary piece in the run. one game. And overall, just C.J. Stroud has looked a lot better. It didn't get sacked. I don't think he took a sack in this game where if he did it, he didn't take very many sacks.

That's been a big problem for them. So, yeah, overall, I just wanted to give a shout out to C.J. Stroudan the Texas offense since we've been kind of hating on them a lot. I agree. They look better. I will say the last four games that you're mentioning,

they played the Titans. They played Snoop Huntley and the Ravens. They played this Niners team. And so those are the three games where they really shined. And then the Seattle game. They played Denver next week. And it's like, All right.

That's why he's going to get it in, Craig. The blowouts today, I think there's Texans are among many teams where it's the joke we make about the Cowboys defense where it's like a team looks great against Dallas. And it's like, are they better or did they just play Dallas? It's like, is the stripper actually into you or is she just, is that her job? And it's like that was just the Texans today. I'm like, are the Texans good or the nine is just missing Fred Warner and Nick Bosa in addition to the eight players of the loss in for agency?

I agree with what you're saying. I just don't like to dismiss dominant wins out of hand because it's the NFL and weird shit happens every week and you know. It's a national football league. Yes, this is the national football league.

It's hard to blow a team out. It's hard to blow a team out. It was the time. They didn't really blow them out. They went by 11. No, I'm talking about the, I'm talking about the Baltimore game and going back in the week's. That one I actually will coldly discount.

That was, that might have been Cooper Rush actually. That was Cooper Rush. Well, he's not playing defense. That was dumb. Well, yeah. Don't want to think. because everyone was injured.

The practice squad guys were hurt. Maybe he was actually. He was rushing the passer. You can't prove that. He was out there playing safety, I think. The dominance in the Texans game was the time of possession was the Texans of the ball for 25 minutes. The Niners of the ball for under five and a half minutes in the first half, which is the least time of possession in the first half teams had in like 15 years. So that part was dominant.

Shil Kapitia said this. But it's concerning. This is the fewest plays the 49ers have run in a game under Kyle Shanahan. Maybe I'm cynical. I looked at this as much more concerning for San Francisco than cool for Houston. I was like, oh, so Houston, who just can't move the ball against competent teams is running all over you. And I'm like, yeah, it's a little concerning. All right.

So never mind. I guess I'll go fuck myself. But I did like C.J. Stroud. Yeah. C.J. Stroud. Craig, give me one. Stroud. Well, you just did Gruden.

Do you want Gruden or do you want Gus? Oh, come on. I want Gus. Trial. Okay. Down the sideline. Higgins. I will say this was a great rookie confidence game

for all those rookies on Houston. Has any team just trotted out three receivers from the same team like Houston did? They were all Iowa State. That's kind of weird. It's kind of like, what are the odds of that? That is weird. There's like 130 D1 football teams

and it's just funny to think that three from an NFL team could all start. Iowa State, not exactly known as like a powerhouse receiver. Yeah, right. Not exactly. They all played together in college. It's not like a 10-year gap or something. It's like they were all basically on the same team

at the same time. which is bizarre. Anyway, I can't believe we talked about an AFC South team before the Colts, but first, the ringer fantasy football

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Or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. The I am become death op and I'm a reward for player who went nuclear. I just did the cults again. We have to do the cults again. We probably should have made him a winner, but they just do this every week. and there's the Titans.

Just change this category to the Wagon Award. The Indianapolis Colts who destroyed people. It's like hard to talk about the Colts because it's just the same thing every week. It is almost like the same game. It's like I feel like I'm watching a replay. It's Jonathan Taylor scored three touchdowns. And I'm like, just after last week. Everyone's open.

They win by 20. I'm like, I don't know. They do this every week. So there's a lot going on here, but I think we have to start with Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan, I mean, I, I, he's having a good year. He's good at football. He's good. I'm going to wax.

I'm going to rant about him, but I will just, this is to me is the summary. Saquan Berkeley last year had one of the best running week seasons we'll ever remember, right? Jonathan Taylor's one touchdown short

of what Sequent did all of last season. Damn. That's fucking nuts. It's week eight. He has 12. He has 12 rushing touchdowns. He's 14 total. Jonathan Taylor is 14 total.

So he scored, he has three touchdowns again today. I want to go three. So the first touchdown, Jonathan Taylor scores, they show this graphic of like, most touchdowns in your career through 75 games. And it's like Ladanian Thompson Hall of Famer, Emmett Smith, Hall of Famer, Most Rushing Yards

Ever, Agent Peterson, Best Running Back Renn back I ever saw my life. John Taylor, and then like Earl Campbell. Like, that's crazy. Then he scores another touchdown. They're like, that was the longest touchdown of his career. And it was like this 80 yards, crazy sideline dance. I couldn't believe how many steps he actually got inbounds. And then they should have, I don't want to get this wrong, but I think he basically

is up there with a sick one for the most, like 60, 80, plus share touchdowns. Then he scored the third touchdown, and they're like, that's his third hat trick in the last four games. He, again, he has four different games

this season with three touchdowns. And then, I mean, he was the first player with 500 scrimmage yards and touchdowns in a four game span since Jamal Charles

in 2013. Like, it goes on and on and on. There's so many stats like this, but it's crazy how good Jonathan Taylor sees it in it. Kind of a cell high, probably, right?

Regression. Get rid of them. Yeah. I mean, he's got, he's basically averaging three touchdowns every other game. Like he has, he has four games this year where he scored three touchdowns. They played eight games. Every other game, he has three touchdowns. We should do a poll or figure out, people can email us or whatever. If you have Jonathan Taylor and you're worse than third in your league, shut out. Let's find the lowest ranked Jonathan Taylor team.

Someone's like one in seven. Last place with John. Like, what did you do? That definitely exists, you know? Yeah, I guess someone just has him and ever missed every. everything else. He is on pace to win the Triple Crown and rushing, by the way. So carries rush yards and rushing touchdowns, which he did in 2021.

I saw this from Tony Holstman-esque arena. Should carries be included there? I feel like that doesn't matter. I mean, it is a, I would say there is something to taking the punishment of leading the NFL in carries. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess so.

But it'd be more impressive. It would probably be catches maybe would be better. Yeah, maybe catches. I don't know why. I mean, it would almost be more impressive if you had the yardage. He's a running back. But yeah. But yeah.

Yeah. I agree. I know what you said. Craig. It's like the guy with those carry shit of the most yards. Right.

Okay. Just saying, it's actually not impressive. I'm kind of like, it should just be, it should be a double crown. It's way cool. Yeah,

double, exact. Yeah, they're just trying to like pretend it's baseball. At Schaeftor had this thing. I also, I want to,

Jonathan Taylor is now the fifth player since 2000 with the least three scrimmage touchdowns and four games in a season, joining only Danian Thomas in 2006, Marshall Falk 2000, and Sean Alexander 05, Priest Holmson, 2002, 2003. I read that whole thing because, for the youngans out there, I probably don't know. All of those guys broke the single season record for touchdowns in his season.

Back in my day in the 2000s, this has been memory hold. That was the record that just fell every year. Like a different guy just set the record for touchdowns in his season every year. Like it was like the 90s with home runs. And now it doesn't get discussed, but that's the coolest record. Who has the most touchdowns in his season? Marshall Falk did it and then priest Holmes did it

and then Sean Alexander did it and then Tomlinson did it in 06. The fact that Jonathan Taylor's at a list with the other four guys in the four seasons who set the record is fucking crazy. Yeah, I mean one of the main points of football is to score touchdowns. It's like the whole thing. It's pretty cool that he's doing that a lot.

And the fringe would make along the way. Anyway, okay. So Colts, also Michael Pittman had like probably the best catch of the year. Yeah, like the bicep. He just kind of like like caught a football. Like the guy's arm was in there. I actually didn't get enough replays to that thing. Michael Pittman just grabbed the ball.

Like the guy was like trying to hold one arm and usually the guy catches it with the other arm that's not being held. Michael Pittman caught a touchdown with the ball that was being pinned by the defender and he just grabbed it anyway. Sometimes you catch the ball and sometimes the ball catches you. That's right. I really do think that somebody should just start like have an offensive strategy where just like every three plays, you just throw it deep to your best receiver one-on-one.

Like it'll just like most. Like the threes? Yeah. I mean, if Michael Pittman's out of here making catches like this, like you can just, you're either going to get a flag, he's going to catch it, or it's going to be an incomplete. I love it. A lot of meat on the bone.

Yeah, Drake May is changing the game, you know, he's going deep again. I mean, Drake play great, right, D.K. Yeah, Drake May, he's one of my winners, obviously. He looks like going to be the fantasy league winner at quarterback this year. I think Mahomes is obviously in that conversation as well, but he was taking a lot higher than Drake May. It was Drake May was the quarterback 16th, a quarterback 16, I should say, an ADP, 119th overall.

He's averaging 26 points per game, or sorry, he got 26 points per game today, which was number one on the day. He is on the year, now the quarterback four in points per game, 22 points per game behind only Mahomes, Allen and Hertz. And every game, it feels like he's getting a little bit better. And he did it today. He had three touchdowns, and he rushed for 50 yards against one of the best defenses in the NFL in Cleveland.

It started out a little bit slow, but then once the patch got going, it was just like a steamroller. And that's in a game where Rick and Miles Garrett had five sacks. So, yeah. DK., I totally agree with you. Next year in drafts, where do you think Drake May is going to go

at the quarterback position? Do you think he's going to be top three or four? Absolutely. He's going to be like... How many people are you take you? Is it going to be Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Drake May? I think it's Josh.

Hertz and Jaden are going to be in there somewhere. I think if they banned the tush push, Drake May could get drafted over Hertz. next year. Yeah, I think it could be three. It's pretty remarkable. Yeah. It's legit.

And the paths are six and two, by the way. I will say, they have a very easy schedule, and it doesn't really get any harder, so wheels up for fantasy at least. Patriots are just going to end up with a fucking number one seat or whatever with the Colts, which is just the rich. Everything's the 2000s against Colts Patriots. I don't know what's going on. It's so over.

We're so back. Trivian Henderson, I think, is back. I got to say, we, we, we, we, criticized him enough. We finally bullied Mike Vable. Not even. Like he had 10 carries, but he had 75 yards on 10 carries, had some big plays, looked explosive. Once again, Remandre-Stie Benson on the ground, didn't

look great. Remandre, 14 carries 34 yards. Travion Anderson, 10 carries 75 yards. They look completely different. And yet, the split was still basically what it's been all year. And then, at the end of the game, Trayvill and Henderson fumbles the football. On like the five-yard line. Yes. Yeah.

We're five minutes left in the fourth quarter. And I got to tell you, we better not hear shit from Vrable about this because Stevens and fumbled a million times. I don't want to hear any hypocrisy. I don't want to hear shit. He better play more for fumbling. Okay. This is his first fumble of his life. Brable loves fumbling.

Henderson never fumbled once in college. And this was the first week I did not start Trayvon Henderson. I am, again, like it's not like he was fantastic. But I didn't drop them because we still might turn this thing around and today was step one, baby steps. So you missed out on all, what, five and a half of his points after the fumble? Yeah. That must have been crushing. But it was good motivation on my bench.

The vibes in the locker room are getting better. It was nice to see him, you know, putting them some numbers. Look good. We're on our way back. TK., who else is so back this week? The Dolphins' offense is so back. One-eyed, two. I really want Tua to go out there and wear like an eye patch, like one-eyed Willie from the Goonies.

Because I think it maybe helps a lot that he only had one eye going on. Can you explain? Can you explain this? I don't actually know what happened. He's got an – it said he has an illness. and that caused his eye to swell up. So maybe like pink eye, maybe he got a sty. I don't really know.

Do you guys have any ideas? What was going on there? No, didn't he say he didn't even really know? He was like, I woke up with a swollen eye. That's the extent of the two things they know that can lead the swollen eyes. He got stung by a bee maybe. I don't know. He did look like those videos of dogs who ate bees.

All right. But more important to that, I think, than to a having only one eye was that the Dolphins offense really did kind of shift their strategy in this game. There's a couple tight ends injured coming into this week Darren Wallers on IR.

And so they, for the first time ever under Mike McDaniel, decided to use six offensive linemen a whole bunch in this game. Literally, again, that's the first time

they've used that formation once. And they dominated. Basically, this is the smallest, frailest, least powerful team that I can imagine

in the NFL. They have just a bunch of tiny guys. And this was something I was talking to Carlos about last week. It's just like they're too small.

And they finally decided to add an extra offensive line. It really worked well. They dominated 34 to 10 win over the Falcons. Tua was really good. 20 to 26, 205 yards and four touchdowns. And I don't know, he was even making out of structure plays and second reaction plays like you typically haven't really seen this year. So this was by far to his best game this year. And, you know, obviously by far the best Dolphins offense that we've seen this year.

And so maybe this little shift in how they're approaching. They gave the ball to their, their bigger running backs, a whole bunch more. Ollie Gordon, Jalen Wright. So, I don't know. It's, you know, I was talking to Carlos. He's very confused. He doesn't know what this means. I'm afraid to, like, really say it means much yet.

But. Well, that means the Falcons shouldn't have the number one defense, but DVOA. That's what I think. Well, they don't anymore. That's for sure. But, yeah, the Falcons got to be one of the weirdest teams in the NFL this year. I swear. I don't know what to make of them.

But obviously, huge game for the Dolphins at the very least. there were a couple of dolphins plays today that looked like the old dolphins like the waddle touchdown like just takes a slant Yeah him coming across the middle Tua hits him perfectly

He you know Turns the Jets on and scores a long touchdown And then you know what was nice Is that maybe the whole eye thing Was a lie just so Tua could wear glasses In the post game that was cool He looked cool He had like these black sunglasses on

Oh did he? I didn't see it He literally like four days ago I was talking about how he can't see receivers over the middle and then had one eye. It's just like blood sport. You remember in blood sport when he does like all the training where he can't even see anything? He just wears a towel over his head.

Maybe depth perception was his was to his enemy. Yeah. You know? That's why I can't for D. Yeah. Didn't work. I think the falcon should be really embarrassed. I hope they are.

This is pretty bad. This is redemption for high fits. But if we have to do the opposite a fart or shart for the dolphins here, D.K., what would you pick? The opposite? Yeah, like, is this a flash in a pan-positive sign, or is this the sign of something permanent? Are the, the dolphins good, or is it just her job? I would say it's probably more like a one-week weirdness.

I think this is worse if you're a Dolphins fan. I think this is worse than just continuing to be bad, because the flashes of good just prolonged. Don't give me hell. Yeah. And yeah, it's, yeah, it's just, you should give up. And it's bad that it's like a, you know, they're in the death throws of this era of this team. And it's tough that it's going to continue.

So you have that to look forward to. Also for fantasy, it's really funny that Bijon Rob, the Falcons of the most running yards to running backs this season, like on offense. And the dolphins had allowed the most rushing yards to running backs on defense. This is why this shit doesn't make any sense, man. That's what I'm saying. The NFL is so weird every week. 43 yards. Bejohn Robinson got five carries in the first half. He had like four points, five points. He'd like need the ball out of his own hand at one point. well his body's rejecting it i don't know uh it was horrific what you think of kirk cousins

oh dude i you know i think kirk cousins and andy dalton i had the same reaction today which was they played so poorly that it reminded me that what joe flacco is doing is amazing because old quarterbacks are supposed to look like shit and it reminded me how it's crazy what joe flacko is doing andy dalton looked unprofessional today yeah Andy Dalton was like pathetic Andy Dalton was He needs to go see HR He looked

Frankly he looked like he hurt way more than his thumb In that car accident I think we need to like start a class action lawsuit Against what we saw from Andy Dalton That was horrific Every time I looked up he was getting sacked In the worst situations possible I think the worst thing I saw all day

I know AJ Epidessa On the Bills had this like It really happened twice today But this like the whole like one side Like got the ball And then the way he hit The way Eddie Dahlon kept falling down, it looked like he was being bullied.

Yeah, he would go into like a fetal position. It looked like a movie like they're beating an old man. And I was like, oh my God, this is horrible. He's already dead. It is like that. The Rattler one was the worst play, though. That was the worst. The Spencer Rattler, Anderson and the bucks,

who just like tipped the ball to himself and then got it and then shoved Rattler down and then just like walked. It took one step in the head zone. That was the most middle school-ass looking play. I have ever seen in the end of the NFL. We need bad quarterbacks. We always need bad quarterbacks to allow us to appreciate just how good the great ones are. It's like, we always joke.

We wish some, like the Olympics would let like a normal person go in the event. It's the control. It's the control of the whole experiment. Like after watching Andy Dalton today, like I'm going to enjoy my homes that much more tomorrow. Like do you remember, yeah, like two weeks ago in Herbert? That's a really good way of looking at it. Yeah, like they went to sack Herbert two weeks ago on the dolphins played. He just like didn't get sacked and he just threw the.

And then you see Spencer Rattler just get fucking rocked by this guy. You like today was a good example as to why normal people usually just like wait till Sunday night football because that's like two good teams playing and they don't sit through the, you know, the slop of like nine backups playing in week eight that we just fight through. Yeah, I get it. It's like, oh, I'm just actually going to wait until it's like the chiefs and the Packers. That sounds nice.

That sounds better. That's a better experience. Any other forts of charts here? Oh, yeah. Yeah, America's standard segment. Do we have the drop? Which one is it today? Do we know?

Spin the wheel. That one was like strangely like funky, like the funky. That was funky, yeah. It's like almost like a set. I don't like a porn background music. The noise is getting me. They get you?

I don't like it. Wet fart sounds. Yeah. They get me too. Okay, but in that spirit, D.K. Daniel. God. Dan.

What? Caleb Williams, the quarterback for the Chicago. go bears. Oh, yeah, him. Like we said, they lost today 30 to 16 to the Ravens. To Snoop Huntley. I don't know why I keep wanting to say scoot.

To Snoop Huntley. Scoot, splut, or snoop? He's just really chipping you up. Caleb today had a brutal pick in the fourth quarter with nine minutes left out of his own end zone. They were down three. Essentially kind of lost the game.

If you look at him in fantasy, the last two weeks, things have really slowed down. He had 11 points today in fantasy. He had four the week before that. And yet, you know, he's done some things. You know, the last drive of the game, he made a throw to DJ Moore that I think legitimately like three quarterbacks

in the league can make. Where he was scrambling through it, completely crossed the field. DJ Moore caught it with one hand. One of the coolest plays I've seen from a quarterback in a while. Then the same drive, like basically the last play of the game,

DJ Moore wide open in the back of the end zone. He sails it like Anthony Richardson basically through the goalpost. So I want to ask you, DK. The Bears are now four and three. They have 168 points through eight weeks. Last year they had 163 through eight weeks.

So they're basically the same team in terms of points guard. Four and three, Caleb Williams, two bad weeks in a row. Fart or shark? Fart. Okay.

I'm not giving up yet. Not until Baygent gets out there. Then we can call that a shark. Oh, once he gets benched, yeah, I think that would be considered a shark. He's not saying that NPR. He's saying Caleb. I'm saying Caleb.

Yeah, I know. I am not quite ready to give up on him in terms of in his career. Especially just like when you look around the NFL and so many guys are, you know, having second chances and doing really well. But yeah, I mean, it, he's been way more erratic and way, way more inaccurate than anyone would have hoped, certainly.

I mean, he's all over the place. Like you said, Craig, he can make really great throws and then at the same time just absolutely sail the ball past his receiver. I think that that one on the very end of the game, Two was just like a that the whole process of that play was very weird because they tried to sneak it in and they thought they got in.

They didn't, the refs didn't, they called him down at the one. So then they had to like hurry up. Everybody was running around. It was like just a total cluster the whole time. So, you know, I think it's just a function of them still trying to figure everything out. He's still trying to figure out how to like run an offense.

And so obviously it doesn't look great right now, but I still have faith in him longer. I think this was a fart for Caleb, too. I agree. It's weird that it feels like Caleb can make threes, but he just misses layups a lot. Like, it's like the Ben's, he's Ben Simmons and that we can't make the layup,

but he actually can shoot from three. The biggest difference, I think, between how, I mean, I know Jaden Daniels has been hurt, but I think Jaden's rookie season, how it fell and Caleb this year, the biggest difference to be is Jaden last year came in and what was so amazing about Jaden in so many ways, other than, you know, these deep balls and everything,

was Jaden Jadels had such a, one of the hardest things than the last thing that comes for quarterbacks is Jaden was so good with situational awareness. It felt like the game moved really slow for Jaden Daniels on third and long, on fourth and short, at the goal line, end of games, end of half, two-minute drill. I, to me, I think when I watch Caleb Williams, I feel like the game really speeds up for him in those big moments. Like I think that when he sees the field and everything slows down for him, you're like, oh my God,

he is amazing at finding these guys, like that play you pointed out. Like, he's amazing of finding, like coming out of the pocket, doing an escape, and finding something down feels amazing at it. So when he is able, the game to slow down for him

at all phases, I'm excited. But, man, the end of stuff, the end of game stuff still just feels like it is just, like, just going a thousand miles an hour in his head when the game is actually on the line.

He just feels unprepared is probably not a fair term, but he just doesn't, just does not have command in the moments that matter yet. I think that's a very good point. I totally agree. I mean,

Jaden just looks like a professional right when he walked under the field. He just looks so comfortable out there and Caleb still just doesn't look comfortable. I think, and that's another reason that I think the college experience thing is starting to become a plus rather than a negative because we look back a lot of times,

you know, we were kind of unsure whether, what it meant that he played college football for five years or whatever. And does that mean? mean he should have come out earlier. He was not good enough to come out earlier. Or is that good that he's just getting more experience? I think at the end of the day, it's just clear it was very good that he had more in-game experience.

And to be clear, I'm not saying that means it'll never happen for him. It takes a while. You know who has great command of moments this year? Daniel Jones, who just... Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield. Again, it's... The way I think of it is, for lack of a better term of pocket awareness or whatever, or just seeing the field.

I think of it as on a basketball court, LeBron, whoever you want to pick, if they close their eyes, they know where everyone is. Like they could, people behind them. Like, they know where everyone is. A quarterback has to be able to do that

for all the offensive line and a defensive line around them while still being able to go through the route progression in 2.3 seconds. Like, they have to be able to do all that, and then escape and it's another, like they have to be able to do all that. And that's hard.

Jaden was weirdly good at it. But Darnold just started, Darnel could just do it last year after not being able to do that. Daniel Jones can just do it this year after not being able to do it. bake like for whatever reason some guys it just takes five years

to actually know where everyone is and again I still think the comp for Caleb is Rogers and as long as we criticize them and they're not playing well I'm still going to be like you know what Rogers didn't fucking play for three years so I'm not going to give up with Caleb till for four years yeah and we just got done

watching Jordan Love too who also displays a lot of the same you know talents that you're talking about in terms of just field vision that one play he made to Tucker Kraft down the field where he was like getting pressured and almost getting hit and just hucked it down there because you knew Tucker Kraft had single coverage down the field and just you know Tucker craft made a great play but just knowing when you can make those types of throws it just comes with experience a lot of time

I think the only difference for me for Caleb versus a lot of the guys that we've talked about Baker, Darnold or Daniel Jones. Caleb's in a pretty good situation like that's the only thing like he's got he's got the play caller like he's got a lot of the things that like Darnold didn't have and that you know Daniel Jones kind of didn't have and so So I do think that you, I expected, you know, we said in week one, I remember we had that big Caleb conversation. We were like, let's be honest. The boring take here is let's wait till week eight and then see how he's doing.

And he kind of looks the same to me. I think he looks better. I mean, it's incremental. I really quibble with the good situation thing. It's like the coaching. Yeah, it's like Ben Johnson's a way better coach. And that's why you've seen progress with Caleb on like getting the ball out faster, like immediately. He's not taking nine sacks a game.

Yeah, he's not uppaced of 60 sacks. the Bears handling of left tackle this year has been bizarre. So Braxton Jones has hurt. The Bears left tackle today was Theo Benedade. Who the fuck is that guy? Like the Bears' plan at tackle this season was horrendous. Okay. Braxton Jones is a fifth round pick and the backup, Ozzie Trappolo was a fourth round rookie.

The swing, all the other options, the point is, all the other options the Bears had at left tackle had never played left tackle in the NFL. The Bears entered the season with one guy. I might be wrong on this, but I'm. pretty confident. The Bears enter the season with one guy who had like played left tackle in the NFL

other than their left tackle. Like why the fuck did you do that? That's just a weird thing to do. And there's just, so anyway, I don't know. I'm like, it's not perfect.

That's all. We haven't hit excuse bingo yet, but I feel like we've, we've crossed off two boxes. We still have a few more to go. There you go. That, we should make that. Excuse bingo.

Excuse bingo is really good. Bingo. Excuse bingo is off. Awesome. Like Trevor Lawrence is almost at bingo. Kyler Murray is at bingo. Email us at Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com for ideas and excuse bingo for quarterbacks.

That's awesome. I love excuse bingo. We should make that. Speaking of which, another, the opposite of fart of chart here, this is also just the real stripper thing of just like, you know,

does she like me or is just her job? Like, did this guy play well? The New York Jets, which honestly, probably a travesty that we're getting this far out of the show for Jets fans. And we're just talking about the Jets now, the only entertaining game of the whole day.

But you know what? You put us through a lot of shit. So you know what? Sorry. Justin Fields and the Jets beat the Bengals 39 to 38. They were down 14 at basically what felt like the entire game. And then frankly, Justin Fields, they have, I mean, 15 point comeback, 500 yards for the Jets. It's the second time the Jets had 500 yards in the last six years. All those were the other one weirdly was against the Bengals with the Mike White game. Justin Fields

Like what an amazing story Woody Johnson is saying If only we could complete a pass Woody Johnson's basically citing Justin Fields is madden rating as the excuse for the team's playing poorly And then they go and they get to two point conversions They win in regulation going for two down 15

And then Justin Fields talks after the game About like he was crying in his closet on Saturday And just like on the ground And he was like wondering like I don't know This was a lot to unpack here A lot. There was a lot to this game I was happy to Jets I saw this tweet from Mike Golic Jr.

The field's got his revenge game this week against his current team. Yeah, which is great. Just because he went into the week, it felt very, well, not certain, but like very strongly probably going to be Tarot Taylor being the starter.

And then he got a knee injury. And it's always awkward when you get benched, but then the backup gets hurt. Is there any more aloof owner than Woody Johnson throwing the quarterback under the bus and then like probably learning later that day that that quarterback will have to keep playing? Fields even said after the game that

the Woody Johnson stuff was like he's like that's all outside noise I understand he owns the team that's outside noise definitely inside noise Yeah it's a great quote he's like I get that he is the literal owner of the team But to me that's outside of noise everyone Everyone not named Justin Fields is outside noise Yeah To be honest but yeah it was it was it was very I mean obviously

Fields played well um ran around through for a bunch of yards Gave his team a chance to win Brise all had a touchdown pass as well But the game winning Touchdown pass With a double club That was the best throw of the whole fucking day Hell yeah

Make him the quarterback Who who? Okay first of all What's your Who's gonna start next game for them Are they gonna stick with fields Or go back to Taylor? They're going to their by

I think you have to play fields now You have to keep playing fields You have to you can't bench fields After you do this Although it's funny though After all that Austin Texas When he threw that PATH

Breeze Hall through the touchdown pass Which was amazing It was really good. Like he went, Mason Taylor, the tight end was not open. Put it right where no one else could get it. Breeze Hall did the Josh Allen.

Like, he went right up to the sideline. He really waited till like he was like half a yard out of bat, almost out of bounds. And he just put it right up on Mason Taylor. It was way bigger than the quarterback on him. And Austin's like, would Justin Fields have made that play?

He would have skipped it to him. Yeah. Like, I don't know. I thought that was, what did it, what a, Breez Hall also unbelievable.

I mean, 20 touches, 147 yards, two touchdowns on the ground. the Jets had the most rushing yards they've had in four years and then he threw the game winning touchdown. That was amazing. I can't believe the Bengals lost that game.

I think Jemar Chase couldn't either. He was like, they were like, how do you feel about losing? He was like, I don't know. You should have Zach. It's actually a pretty devastating loss for them, right? They scored 38 with Joe Flacko and lost. Yeah, but I mean for their playoff hopes because they had some like still pretty dim,

or like, I mean, they were still alive in the playoff race, just this idea that Joe. Burrow could come back at the end of the year. If they can just, you know, get to 9-10 wins or whatever. Dude, if they would have won that game today, they would have had four wins. That would have been tied for the division lead. Yeah. I mean, that, and you're against the 0-N-17.

Again, you scored 38 points in a team whose owner is publicly saying we can't complete a pass. And then Trey Hendrickson leaves the hip injury. This is what we were joking about all-season. This is what we were joking about all-offseason with the signing of Burrow and Jamar-Chasing T Higgins. And we were like, will this financially cripple the Bengals and, like, create defensive issues that will never, ever be able to be solved because of the percentage of cap? Do you want to talk about that or do you want to watch Chimar Chase and T. Higgins hit some diggers? And we were like, dingers. Socks some dingers. That's this game. It's like, yeah,

you gave up 39 points to Justin Fields. And also, honestly, that's how bad the defenses in the AFC North are. Like, the only two teams that Justin Fields has looked like an NFL quarterback this year were the Steelers and the Bengals. The Steelers, man It's a mess It's ugly Actually I misspoke earlier I said that Drake May was the number one

quarterback this week It was actually Jordan Love Thanks Steelers 20 straight completion That's that is so bad You want to know An intrusive thought I had While watching the Steelers game

Yes I don't think TJ what's that good anymore Oh That's a bummer Just don't think he's that good anymore I don't When I watch him I'm like

You're not doing with Michael Parsons is doing. He's on the other side. He looks way better than you. I don't think you're worth $50 million a year. Sorry, I don't. Maybe they shouldn't have paid him. I don't know. He doesn't look that good to me. That's tough. That's tough. This is the closest Craig will get to crashing out.

Well, it's an interesting thought. I was watching and I'm like, I don't know. This season, TJ Watt has not looked like a top five pass rusher in the NFL. Yeah. That's pretty good. I mean, the Steelers defense, again, it's just schematically, it's just they just don't have the horses, man. When you're like, oh, it's the most expensive defense, you're like,

how the fuck is that possible? I know. You're like, hey, everyone's over 30 years old. It's why, Cam Hayward? How is that possible? I know. It's like, Jalen Ramsey. It's bad across the board.

The corners are bad. Ramsey also has been amazing as a tackler, as a playmaker, but the coverage is. As a blitzer, he's been great. But the coverage is, one of the reasons he's around the ball so much as teams are throwing it at them, which is an ideal. Any other intrusive thoughts here?

I saw that somebody added my own line to this. You texted this, I put it in. You said, I'd let Joe Flacco do anything to me. That was earlier in the game. It was like 11.30 a.m. I was driving back home from a, I was in Northern California this weekend.

And I had to start Joe Flacco because Lamar was out. And Flacco, like, ran in a touchdown and threw two before halftime and I was like, he's just Lamar. Like, it's the same thing. And he did it again last week too when I started on. I'm like, he's the top five quarterback of the last two weeks, Joe Flacco.

Did you see the target distribution of the Bengals? It is the fakest looking thing. I, like, you pull up the box board. Oh my God, you're right. It is exactly how an 11-year-old would play Madden. Joe Flacco, can I read the targets?

I'm just going to read him. T. Higgins got two targets. Tanner Hudson got two targets. Samasha P. Ryan got one. Yoshavos got three. Chase Brown got three. Noah Fank got three. Jamar Chase got 19 targets.

Like Joe Flackles who 34 passes. 19 of the 34. So like way more than, like significantly more than half were just the Jamar Chase. And they scored 38 points. And they scored 38 points. It's like a version of what I was saying earlier. I'm like, you just throw it deep every time. I'm like, you could actually just throw it to your best player every time and it might work.

Craig, this is what I'm talking about for years with like Arthur Smith and stuff. Just let your best players cook. I don't mean to be glib or disrespectful to coaches or anything. But I do sometimes, like, again, the Jets won this game, but let's be clear. Like, they gave up 38 fucking points to Joe Flacco who showed up three weeks ago, just like Mike Tomlin gave up however many points to a guy who showed up two weeks ago. like at some point what Joe Flacco is doing with his Bengals team

challenges what I think about football. And I'm not saying about I'm a genius. It's more making me doubt how all these people who spend all this time doing this can be felled by this fucking 40 year old guy who just got here clearly doesn't know the playbook

and is like I'm just going to throw it to this best player every time. And then one on Thursday football game doing that. 10 days go by and they still no one has figured out a double Jamar Chase how is this possible

this is clearly his only thing Zach Taylor should not give Flacco the playbook that you just keep just keep going out there and winging it's like turkey bowl stuff it's like okay go up to the line look around oh there's Chase

okay I get what Jamar Chase is bad they're like how'd you lose he's like I don't know I just I it's unbelievable playoffs any intrusive thoughts from you two yeah what the fuck is with these How do these guys coached the other?

Why is it so hard to coverage of our chase? I just don't get it. How is what no one else has thought of the throat of the best player? Anyway, my other- Bill Belichick's in college now. No one knows how to do it anymore. Yeah, my- He's crushing it. He's the only one who thought of it.

My intrusive thought after Camp Scatabille got hurt, like a few minutes went by and I was thinking, and I was like, is this my fault? Like, is God mad at me or the Giants? Like, is this something? something that I've done. What did you? What was the conclusion? I'm not sure.

I'm going to tell you it's not your fault. Okay. Thanks. It's not your fault. The other intrusive thought I had was how many, if you had to win a game next week, have you died if you lost and you dropped a quarterback under an average team? I hate these questions so much. How many players would you, how many quarterbacks would you pick before Drake May? Mahomes, Josh Allen.

I'm not there yet. I'm not there with Drake May. Okay. Well, that's what I'm asking you. Next week, you die if you don't win this. game healthy quarterbacks too. Lamar doesn't count. Yeah, he wouldn't be up there. Okay, but you say that, but I'm, so, okay, so name them

is my point. Like, you're not going to pick Jalen Hertz. Your life on the line. It's like, my homes, it's Josh, Herbert, Lamar's hurt, Burroughs hurt, Stafford is probably there for me. And I'm like, Dak, and I'm like, I kind of think I'd take Drake May over Jane Daniels? Jayden's hurt. Or Jordan Love? I would absolutely take Jake May to win a game over Jordan Love.

Oh, I don't know. I'm not quite there yet. Like in terms of the players I would take, I'm trying to build a franchise from scratch. Drake Bay would be up there. The guy that I want to win a game tonight, or I'm dead, I'm not there with Drake May. He's looking great though.

He is. I'm not like trying to dismiss. I'm just saying it's early. I think I would take him over Jordan Love. That's fair. I'm not like 100% sure I would take Jordan Love over him. But yeah, he's like already in that top 7 to 10 range.

That's what I'm trying to say. It's easy to say you'd build the franchise around him. I'm saying I think he's like sixth guys I would take right now. Yeah, it's like Mahomes, Alan Herbert, Josh Allen Herbert. Yeah.

Mahomes, I guess he should go in order. Mahomes and Josh. Not Rogers. Stafford. What about Baker? Oh, yeah, yeah, I would take Baker.

That's thank you. Yeah. A healthy Baker. Yeah, Baker, Baker. I would actually. Jackson Dart. How dare you? Play of the day.

I mentioned these two already. Michael Pittman, the touchdown. Again, I don't know if I, I don't know if I've seen a player get the one-hand touchdown with the arm that was being pinned. Like, that was just amazing. And the Breeze Hall touchdown passed.

It looked like AI. It kind of did. It's like, it's like, there's no way that. This video was created by someone who doesn't understand physics. Like, why is the arm in the guy's arm? And like, that doesn't, the bar would, the ball would never fit there. The Anthony Nelson batted pass and then trucking Spencer Rattler and then walking to the end zone. But I think that was sadder for Rattler than it was cooler for the guy.

I'm not sure. I got bench too, by the way. Yeah, Shuck came in. Neither of them were very good. Yeah. So, not great. My play of the day was the, did you guys see the Chase Brown pump fake flea flicker? I don't believe this was planned.

Yeah. It was supposed to be a flea flicker. He turns to Chase Brown, has the ball, turns around, sees Joe Flacco surrounded by like three defenders and then just keeps the ball and then runs forward and it works. That was really heads up. Yeah, that's cool. We should see more fake flea flickers. Yeah. Every play should be a flea flickers.

flicker. In some, it'd be a fake flea flicker, a double flea flicker, or just a regular flea flicker. We need more flicking. It's like the new version of play action. Yeah. Craig's pro flicker. Hear me out. This is the Don Draver.

All flea flickers. Hear me out. We build the entire plane out of the black box. Build the entire offense around the flea flick. Just throw it to Jumar Chase. Belichick's going to come back and win his super league is going to be like, I got an idea. Covered Jemar Chase. All flea flickers.

Worst play the day. Wait, there's a category in between that you skipped. Oh, you want Tom Brady? Yeah, well, I don't want to do Tom Brady. I want to do a different broadcaster. His name's Terry Bradshaw. Oh, this was sad. I have the clip, and so we're going to play it right now.

This was upsetting. Terry Bradshaw on the Fox on the Fox countdown. The other day, I text Andy Reid, and I got a text back, and I thought it was Andy Reid, but some guy selling pigs, but I sounded good. I shouldn't have told you all that, So y'all would have thought I actually talked to Andy Reed, but I didn't really talk to Andy Reed.

You know what that taught me? We could be on Fox Rock. We could be doing Farmery Chart on Fox Countdown right now. He just starts trailing off and then they just interrupt him. Terry Bradshaw is the most, like, beloved family member that, like, shouldn't. Like, it's, I don't even know to talk about this. Let's get you to that. I watched it five times.

I don't even know what he means. I don't know what that means. I shouldn't have told you that it was a pig was it a pig seller? A guy selling pigs? What are you talking about? What does that mean? I need to get to the bottom of it.

What does that mean? Terry. Michael Strayan was confounded. He was like, what the fuck? He was like a combination of incredibly confused and embarrassed. The wildest thing too is obviously Terry Bradshaw's, you know, he's had too many concussions and like shouldn't be on television. but frankly, he seems like such a nice guy.

No one wants to fire him. Like, I believe that's the deal. He's awesome. The best moment that Cruz had, it's the best moment that Cruz had in months. We're talking about it. We are talking about it. What was the last time we talked about some like halftime shows? They're going to watch the halftime shows.

Terry Bradshaw 77. They let him read the play-by-plays still, though, which is like wild because like I, you can't unsee it and you start to realize that even reading for him is just like, it's just like an adventure now. For 77 and the amount of concussions he's probably suffering. I actually think he's doing all right. I think he's got to give it to him. He's still pretty good.

Yeah. Terry, he's a nice guy. Okay. Worst play of the day? Okay. I was just sitting in that. I was freaking powered down. Just rolling around in it like a pig and shit.

All right. Let's just dwell on this for a little bit longer. Let's just let that hover. No, I just feel bad for Terry, man. Yeah, we know. Keep move. Keep it moving. Let's go. Hurry up.

Back to work. Okay. Oh, stadium pulse of the week. There was no stadium pulse this week. I think there was one moment all day. Like the eight, like 11 hours of football or whatever. The Jets Bengals game when the Jets were trying, like that priest hall touchdown. That was the only moment all day that mattered.

Like you could argue the bears at the goal line when fourth down and Caleb like threw the ball. We did that. Yeah, but that was just because we were in danger of losing our. bet. Yeah, that was 14 under the two-minute warning. I think there was one high-leverage moment in 11 hours. And I don't think I'm forgetting one.

No late-game ones, anyway. I just thought that was notable. I can't remember any day ever beat. Leoneffle makes $20 billion a year because that's not a thing. So I just, I think it's the lot. My point being, I think this is the least leveraged week in terms of big moments

that's won games I've ever seen. It all came down to Flackover's Fields. That was it. Flacco versus Fields is just unbelievable. Arthur Smith, Sean Hocular word for coach or ref that pissed you off. We mentioned, I mean, the refs of the Eagles Giants game. It was a Travis team. Was there anything else?

There was a play in the Bucks game that got called. What was it? They recovered a fall ball. It would have been a touchdown. Antoine Winfield had two different touchdowns that were like. They were like, oh, sorry, we fucked that up. Sorry. Like he went back and scored and they were like, oh, we blew the whistle.

Then it happened again. I loved Chris Collinsworth tonight on the broadcast. basically being like, I don't really understand how replay assistant challenges work. Like, I don't get it. I like that he admitted that. That was crazy. I just don't get it. I actually think that system's good.

But so Ron Torber, as he's screwing up that Saints Buck's thing, oh, no, it was Land Clark came on. I forget what game Land Clark was doing. Oh, land. Yeah. And I explained to Jackie, Land Clark is a land clerk because he, you know, runs municipal buildings in Albuquerque or whatever. So we're like, land clerk's a land clerk.

Jackie's like, these guys have jobs? She's like, that's not an arrested development character? Yeah. Exactly. That's what people always say to me. I know. But Jack was just like, these guys have other careers.

It's like, yeah, actually they're like, I was like, yeah, the NFL just pays them like $130, 140 grand a year. They're all like lawyers

and they do other stuff and this is like part time. Jackie was like, what the fuck? So anyway, Ron Torbert went to Harvard law. I learned that today. Wow.

Okay. Okay. It was cuckooooling Ron Torbert trying to figure out what his job was. Just retired in 2019. What was it before? A lawyer. Like what kind of lawyer?

I don't know. I didn't get that far. Oh, okay. What was he selling? Pigs. I just texted a pig seller. What was he selling? Pigs.

Oh, God. I shouldn't have told you about the pig seller. Because then he was like worried they weren't going to be impressed because he didn't actually have Andy Reid's number. I think it's super relatable. It's so good. Lucille Bluth, I don't understand the stat line. and I won't respond to it.

Dak Prescott completes 31 passes, eight separate pass catchers, and zero of them are to Jake Ferguson. What the fuck? What's going on with that? This is the guy who came into the game fourth in the NFL and catches. Only Chase Puka and CMC had more catches than him.

Is that personally upsetting to you? Do you have to shock on a beer now? No, not. I don't have them in that league, thankfully. But I do have him in a league where I'm playing one Bill Simmons. and it's not helping my cause. So my, I don't understand the stat line, won't respond to it.

I actually want to talk about a commercial that I saw. Okay. On Sunday football. And it was for AT&T. And I don't remember the guy, I mean, he's like famous. I don't remember he's the pitch band. Luke Wilson. Yes, Luke Wilson.

And he just says in the middle of his commercial, I was like half paying attention. He says, we invented the telephone. and I was like, what? I just, what are you talking about? You invented the phone. AT&T invented it. I guess Alexander Graham Bell

invented like he co-founded Bell telephone company and then I guess AT&T kind of is Bell, but I thought that was like a wild thing to claim. Like that was so out of bounds. It's like when I invented the question mark. invented the question. My dad invented the phone. The jump shot.

I saw some tweet where someone was like complaining. It was like such an American thing to do that we took the country code plus one or whatever. You know? And then someone just quote tweeted and was like, we're the ones who fucking invented the telephone. Fuck off. And I was like, hell yeah. America.

I'm surprised it took AT&T this. long to throw that in an ad. That was my other thought, Craig. I was literally, my first thought was, how have you never brought this up before? It should be the fucking slogan. We invented the phone. Should be the only thing you talk about.

Because you know what? That's why I know you fucking didn't because you never brought it up. I'm 30 years old. I have AT&T. I have no idea. I've never heard you say this before. Imagine if I just told you, I was like, yeah, guys, I invented the football.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, how is this just coming up now that you say you invented the phone? That's pretty good. I like that. That was right. My other one is I want to do the tungsten arm O'Doyle. The other stat that could leave. This is a tungsten arm adoyal one.

Can you give people the context of the time of O'Dill? I'm going to read the actual tweet because it's so funny. It's one of the all-timers. This is like one of the best. So it's just the every time I, this is like one of my best baseball post. ever on social media. And someone said, every time he's seen Angels highlight, it's like Mike Trout hit three home runs and raised his average to 528 while Shaheotani did something that hasn't been done since

tungsten Aram O'Doyle of the 1921 Akron Groomsman as the Tigers defeated the Angels 8 to 3. It's so good. I wanted to give the tungsten Armo Doyle of the week to Miles Garrett, who had five sacks today, the most in franchise history, also passing Reggie White for the first. most career sacks before turning 30 ever as the Browns lost to New England 32 to 13. They were completely uncompetitive. Miles Garrett is the first NFL player to ever have five sacks at a game and lose by three points or more. They lost by like 19.

He's just like guys as his helmet smashing it on the sideline with his $40 million a year hole in his heart. That is like so, it's so true to the tungstenaramo deli. format. I love it. It's like Miles Garrett. Greatest pass rusher I've ever seen. Lost by 19. Congrats. As the Brown's lost to New England.

The New England groomsman, 32, not 13th. The Akron groomsman. Anyway. Oh, I forgot to do the two tight end, too outscore Kyle Pitts in a line. Here's the deal. Kyle Pitts had a good day, guys. He did. Kyle Pitts put together, putting together a decent season. Yeah.

He looks like a real tight end too now, which is very nice because for a long time, we were just, you know, going on the fact that he was drafted very highly. Now he actually looks good. I will say everyone we make fun of was like fine. Like waddle had a good game. Pits. Even Trayvion Henderson. I was going to do two running backs outscore Trayvian Henderson, the lie.

But I kind of think you guys would be able to do it. Oh, actually, no, I do have that really quick. What is it? Two running backs. outscore Trayvion Henderson or lie. You may have heard these guys. Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffrey,

and Bejohn Robinson. Not Bejohn. Yeah, Bejohn probably didn't. I just wanted to, yeah, point that out. Bejad Robinson had fewer points today. Imagine how fucking angry you'd be if somebody was like, hey, Trayvon's going to outscar Bejohn this week. Against the dolphins.

You play them. Oh, my God. All right. Speaking of which, Burn Book. Craig, you got anyone? You're the one filled with anger and rage. I don't. I don't have a strong feel for anybody.

I was going to nominate Jordan Mason, who I think has been pretty widely disappointing after Aaron Jones went down week two. He kind of basically said one good game. You start him every week and he's been pretty bad. And today on Thursday, at one point. Well, Jones returned. I mean, that was just a tough game.

I kind of think it should be Alvin Camara. We haven't talked about Alvin Camara a lot. He had like a good couple weeks. And then have you, like, looked at what Alvin Camara's done? Because I think a key to the burden book is it's guys that... You're playing. You're playing. Right.

Yes. And Camara really has been very similar to Tony Pollard, except you really took him like earlier. And also you probably don't bench Alvin Camara. But I mean, just to go backward, five points, four points, 10 points, seven points, nine points, six points. Like that's destroying you. Yeah. That's a good one. That's not bad. And you probably took him over like fucking George Pickens. Yeah. Yeah. That's not a bad one. D.K., do you have one? Well, I was going to say Pollard.

We already burned him. We burned Pollard. So to this point, we burned Jalen Wattle week one, Mark Anger's week two, Isaiah Pacheco week three, Calvin Ridley, week four, trivia and Henderson week five,

kind of wishing could burn him every week. Tonya Pard, week six, Justin Fields last week. Which we really are continuing that everyone had a good game. It's a hilarious Fields week because nobody started them. Everybody was fucking pissed.

And then, of course, he puts up like 21 fantasy points. Perfect burn book person. Yeah. Perfect. No notes. All right, let's do Camara. I agree with you.

It's a good one. You're in the book. I don't really think of him as somebody named Alvin I don't either When you look at it like closely It doesn't really match It's so true Like if you just met him

He'd walk in and you'd be like hey What's up Alvin? He said Alvin you'd be like Al I'd probably be like hey Camara Camara he's like he's Alvin Camara It seems like it's one name Yeah imagine he's called him Alvin

My buddy Alvin's gonna come Imagine the in walks in fucking Alvin Camara. That's so true. That's so good. My grandpa's name was Alvin. Yeah. Did he see the last Alvin in America? Yeah.

If anyone is under 30 and named Alvin, please email us at Ringer Fantasy Football at Chibail. I'd like to name Alvin for what's worth. It's very close to Calvin. Who are other? Oh, it is like Calvin. Yeah. Oh, Alvin's like Calvin. It's all but one letter.

Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Who's more famous? Alvin Camaro or the Chipmunks? Chimunks did good at the box office. They crush. This is like our...

300 million. This is like our Bambi discussion. I don't even want to weigh into this. We should have a segment called questions that literally can't be answered. It's things... It's like just actually... Who's more famous? Who's more famous?

Apple's to Orange's. It's like, how the fuck my... Didn't the Chipmunks director? Didn't he did good? No, I don't remember it. But the movie's absolutely. fucking crushed. I think Alvin and the Chibunks are more famous.

Yeah, you're probably. A lot of people like the NFL. No, you're probably right. Alvin and the Chipmunks movie, who directed these son of a guns? Tim Hill. We had a whole conversation about this. Tim Hill.

I'm not seeing anything about Tim Hilling. Dude, you know what movie that was on this weekend and the Airbnb I was standing in? It's a good movie. Mama Mia. Have you seen Mama Mia the movie? Yeah. That movie made $700 million. Damn.

That movie made more than like any mission impossible. It was cheaper. Who's in a way cheaper. I kind of forgot how much of a massive hit Mamma Mia was. And that's my beloved Abba. So, that was a great time. Were you watching? Merrill Street.

Well. Oh, Amanda. And. I got it. I wonder where he was going with that. And have you seen it, D.K.? No. Wow.

But maybe I should. It's not your type of a, it's not your type of sci-free role. Might not be for you. Yeah, musical. Yeah. I don't think it has any scenes. That what you mean? Yeah, yeah.

You freak? Okay. I think that's all we got. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Carlis. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Ronick.

Thank you, everyone. For emailing, Aden, email us for your fantasy football, gmail.com. Email us trivia questions. Email us fantasy courts. We kind of got one this week. Email us. If anyone just named Alvin, I just want to know about that. Other athletes who you don't think about that, their name is that.

It's also a good one. I like that. I want all those things. If you think you're the youngest Alvin, please email us. Yeah, yeah. I want to know about Alvin. Alvin, yeah, my friend Alvin's coming over. with South of Camara is pretty good.

And then, D.K., I have a heavy suggestion on the band right now. Yeah, I see. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you. Good Kid.

So I want to shout out Good Kid because this bit. So we were in Spotify last week in L.A. And we were just like, they have this like big theater. So we watch all this games in theater. And we walk in Monday night, I guess. And this band is just there in Spotify, like recording. and one of them is a fan of the show

and recognized me and we just started talking and they're like in a band and so you're like infinitely cooler than like what we got going on and so but anyway they were very kind and they invited me to like just watch them do a session

and they were just like making a song and it was fucking awesome and it was really cool because they weren't just like had the song figured out out and just recording it. They were like trying to figure out what the song should sound like. And I got to just watch them figure out.

And they're like, you know, just like, oh, what do we want the BPM to be in the tempo? And then one of them just like, oh, I love like fast stuff. And they're like, we know. And they're like all arguing. And then the drummer is like, it is like sequestered quarantine room because it's so loud. And he chimes in him with like very thoughtful. Like, I don't know.

It was really cool to just watch them make a song. It was awesome. So there's a few things in this world more impressive than watching musicians do their thing. So fucking cool. It was really cool. So yeah, shout out to a good kid. Musicians and podcasters.

That's awesome. Yeah, yeah. Maybe can Good Kid be our Pearl Jam? Can we have a good kid song as our intro? Yeah. For free, but yeah. To be clear. I don't have any money, but it'd be.

We don't have a huge budget for this. We'd be a promo. Rich in spirit. You know, that's what I said. The first match I had in Bumble in L.A. was when I was like right out of college, when someone was like, I'm looking for an SD.

Sugar Daddy And I was like I don't have anybody But I'm Richard Spirit And then she unmatched me That's tough Honest though Up front

I was great That's the idea I think Yeah Cut to the chase Should really call it humble Yeah Rich and Spirit's good Just immediate swipe left

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