The Ringer NFL Show - Week 8 Waivers, Catcher Sploots, and Craig’s Mom Said He’s Sweaty

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

SHOWDOWN TIME! The guys go through must-add players at each position ahead of NFL Week 8. Then, “You want to do some emails?” (00:00) Intro (02:06) RB Waivers: Tyler Allgeier, Kyle Monangai, Brashard Smith (12:53) WR Waivers: Darnell Mooney, Troy Franklin, Kayshon Boutte (29:15) TE Waivers: Oronde Gadsden II, Cade Otton, Isaiah Likely (35:25) QB Waivers: Marcus Mariota, Joe Flacco, Michael Penix Jr. (36:26) D/ST Waivers: Houston, Atlanta, Tampa Bay (37:57) Emails Check out the 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings: https://fantasyfootball.theringer.com/ Email us! [e-mail] Find your kitchen dreams at IKEA.us/dreamkitchen The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ring of Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hypatts, and I'm joined in person in Los Angeles still, baby. By Danny Kelly and Craig Rolbeck, and we are going over all the waivers from Week 7. Oh, my gosh. And it's just the jamming on the shoulders. I do this virtually, too.

I put my hand on two. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you really? Yeah, I just grab. I imagine you're there. We're going to go through waivers for entering week eight. Not going to lie, they suck. It's pretty brutal.

Good luck. Six teams on by. Yeah, great timing. At the end, we're going to, a lot stuff. Craig's mom had notes on the last episode. So Craig's mom, if you're listening, we're going to go through your notes. And dad. No, I appreciate.

They're coming from a place of concern. I guess they are. Sorry, you took it that way. So we're going to go through that. And then also some fun emails. And yeah, and then we're recording this before. The Mariners game seven tonight. We're going to react, probably power hour.

We're going to have reactions to the Monday NFL games in Mariners game seven. Maybe. If the Mariners win, we'll do a real power hour with alcohol. Yes. And if they lose, we also might do it without a hospital. We're a hostile witness getting decated testify if they lose. He's going to like Irish goodbye and drag it out of here. We lost him.

All right. Let's just go to waivers right now because people, this is I mean, biopocalypse is too strong, but there are six teams on by this week. This is the only week with six teams on by. Yes, the only week with six teams on by. Also a reminder just for your playoffs at the face of playoffs, make it 15, 16, 17, because there are buys in week 14.

No buys week 13 and then there are buys week 14. So just double check your players start week 15 because I think buys in the playoffs is insane. Anyway, six teams on by, lions, lions, Raiders, Rams, Cardinals, Seahawks, and Jaguars are on by. Not to mention, obviously, some injuries. A lot of names. A lot of good names. We're going to go through waivers because I think we always talk about,

oh, if you have to add someone to play them. This week, as much as any week all year, you might have to add, and beggars can't be choosers. There are some ugly names. It's going to be a crapshoot. It's not pretty. And we are going to be recommending, guys, these are short-term plays. Yeah, all the time, we're kind of like,

oh, like a long-term stash. That's not this week. That's like your team is... Next week, you need somebody because JSN is out. Yeah. So, yeah, without further ado, starting just at running back where, yeah, a lot of people probably need running backs. DK, number one running back, if you got to just grin and bear it, play someone in week eight. Well, I think I'm going to go with Kyle Monongai from the Bears.

Really? Yes. Okay. I think. I don't know. You can dispute me on that. So over the last couple of weeks, he's started to see his playing time ramp up. He had 13 carries for 81 yards and touchdown in his last game, plus three targets who catches 13 yards.

The Snapshare is getting closer and closer to even with him and DeAndre Swift. And the run game obviously looks pretty good, at least in the last couple of weeks. And also, Monagai took a lot of the third downlook. So he's going to get opportunities. They're playing the Ravens and the Bengals in the next two weeks. Those two teams have been bad against the run this year. And again, this is not like a great. I don't think there's any one clear guy.

But in terms of volume, he's a guy that I would probably feel the best about. Yeah. I would pick Tyler Algier on the Falcons. I think D.K. make a very solid case and then playing the Ravens helps. The split on Timeshare is basically 50-50 now last week. Menangai's playing the majority of third-down snaps now. So I do agree. I think the weird part about that is like it feels like DeAndre Swift is getting better.

Right. But Menongai's playing more. But I think they see that and that's why because they're like, he can't be a 20-touch guy every week. It's actually good for both of them. He also has an injury. Right. Right. He's been missing practice. Plus, Ben Johnson comes from Detroit where they very heavily had a committee.

Yeah. So I think all kind of signs, it felt like they were kind of just feeling out the running back rotation early on in the season, the Bears, I mean, and trying to figure out how they're going to kind of play this. Manungai, obviously a rookie. He has to work his way into the offense and get more comfortable in it. So it's starting to feel like he is going to be a regular part of their offense. And he's honestly looked pretty good.

So, yeah. I'm going with Alger just because they're playing the dolphins. They're at home. The rainbow strip, yeah. Yeah, I mean, this is like Rico Daddled 200 yards. Alger has three touchdowns and six games. I mean, he has four games this year with 10 or more carries. Like, I think they're going to win big and Tyler Alger in these games.

He's almost like Derek Henry where it's like, when the Ravens win, Derek Henry has a good game, it's kind of similar with Tyler, Alger on a smaller scale. So I think I would lean Alger. We're talking about week eight playing someone. Yeah, Tyler Algeria, if he's available. I think the difference is funny too, because Algeria, I think, is less likely to be available in your league. Kyle Minangangai in, like, just Yahoo, for example, is like, 7% rostered.

But no one guy I think is widely available and hopefully available in your league. Alger is like closer to like 40% so it could go. I don't know. I've seen leagues that are big where he's been cut. I've seen small leagues where people have had him the whole year. So it kind of like ebts and flows. This week, Alger is what Craig says. I mean, the dolphins, I mean, they're horrific.

Yeah, I mean, the fact they're playing the dolphins does make a difference. And they were bad when they hadn't quit on Mike McDaniel. Like they, Rico Doudal set the light. I mean, and also the Ravens defense has gotten a little bit better since they've gotten guys back. Yeah. the yeah so I mean I think I would go with matchup here I mean Menonga they just played the Saints they were up the whole game I'm worried now that the bears are going to step in and play Baltimore Baltimore's I mean Lamar's back there Kennery's back like this game they could be down and I wonder how much menong I will play the to me these guys are similar in that and we're lingering on these guys because everyone else sucks but Tyler Algier is worth it because if Bijan Robinson ahead of Alger gets hurt Al Jal Jers is top eight running back every week Bijan misses time yeah the difference is Bijon's 23 and Every running back can get hurt, but obviously Derek Henry is more likely to get hurt probably.

The Kyle Monongai, the difference is if you want a little, like he also is, it's a bet. It's a bet that just a touchdown randomly gets scored. The difference is DeAndre Swift is actively managing an injury. True. So it's like he doesn't have to get hurt. He has to just aggravate existing injury, which again, Phennais is the stupidest thing in the world where I'm sitting here. Just being like, well, DeAndre Swift aggravates his leg, leg, but that is Menongue, like, the odds that he starts one week this year are kind of high. It's, this is the top tier.

Like Algier and Monungai are in their own tier and I think you could go either way. Everyone after this sucks. I can't stress enough. So I would go Algier, Dike goes Menongai. We'll do trivia shit on time. And then I got it to everyone after this is pretty brutal. So we let's just do this for Algier then. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. You're going to sacrifice your integrity and move over to the Alger Island. I think that I think the matchup thing and the game script thing that you mentioned for playing dolphins makes more sense. So I'm actually going to switch my answer. Okay. And also a lot of people listening Alger might be rostered. So we're on the same page.

It's Algira and the Menangai, and then, like, if not those guys, you're probably screwed. All right, then it's time. In person, I can't remember the last time we had an in-person. I know. Trivia. I can't wait for this. The gong. The only two seconds of mental...

It is the Tyler Algier in-person showdown time. Ooh, yeah. One day, we're going to have a real gong in one of our apartments. You know, when you go to live music, you know, like, music really fucking is awesome. Live, the gong is really good live. Imagine the gong on weed. I would do anything. We need a giant gong.

Oh, my God. We'll get one. We'll get one. All right. By the way, trivia standings, D.K. and Craig tied for first place with six, hyphids with four. Okay. You two have six, have four? Yeah.

Okay. So this one is from Jeff. Jeff Reh. Jay or G? Jay. Jay Bone. Nice. Jeff writes,

went to the monster pumpkin festival in Pittsburgh this weekend with my wife and my mom, along with an awesome giant pumpkin carving, competition. To our advice, when pumpkin picking. There we go. Dude, yeah, there you go. They don't call it pumpkin picking. Pumpkin.

Pumpkin. Yeah. Pumpkin picking. Apple picking. I think it's like you go to the pumpkin patch. You go to the pumpkin patching. Yes. And you ride the little thing. I carved pumpkins this weekend.

I have, I really, just loves pumpkins. He doesn't love anything specific about them. He just wants. No, I like, I like carving pumpkins. I really say weird artistic things. I love sandcastles and I like carving pumpkins. You like making sandcastles? I love sandcastles.

You like carving pumpkins? I do. But I also love pumpkins also. I like pumpkins. Like I just rewatch the As a command. I don't have any emotion towards Does Calvin like pumpkins? I love pumpkins.

No, not really. Not yet. Dude, pumpkins, I'll take Calvin pumpkin picking, you know? Sure. Anyway, so there are the pumpkin carving competition. They had it in display the largest pumpkin grown in America in 2020. Fripes. So the trivet question is how large in pounds, I guess how heavy in pounds,

was the largest pumpkin grown in America this year? How heavy was it? And for all these, because I don't want any cheating accusations, I don't even know the answer. It's going to take me a moment. I have to open the link to the email in a different browser to get the answers. Okay. I don't want, so it's going to take me a little moment, frankly, to get here. The beauty of this game is I'm nervous to make any answer ever always.

I'll abstain. You guys act like we're supposed to know this shit. I don't know. I still feel stupid. Yeah. But that's fine. That's half the point. Yeah, I know.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Oh, wait, I actually, I didn't actually think about it. Yeah, okay, sure. I'm just going to go with literally the first number I thought of. Me too. Three, two, one. One, one hundred fifty-five. I said one thousand. What'd you say? Oh, I said one hundred and fifty-five. I said seven-fifty.

I need, I need this to be light. The answer is, come on. Come on. Come on, Jeff. I sent the picture of the, oh, I'm so long. They're going to be big ass pumpkins, Craig. Big third down, Jeff. What is it?

Oh my God. So I thought it was two hundred and seven. pounds. It is 2,7004. 2,700 pounds. 2,741.5 pounds. Jesus. That doesn't look like it weighs that much. It's just chock full of really heavy innards. It doesn't look like it weighs over a ton.

Yeah. Let me see this? I really, does that look like it weighs almost 3,000 pounds? I mean, look at this. That doesn't look like. Well, the size of the little pumpkin next to it is a size of a car. So. What are you talking? I'm just kidding.

I don't know. Oh, okay. Fuck him with us. Yeah, sorry. I'd confuse people with it. They should zoom in. All right.

I guess we have no choice but to trust. Think about how heavy the goop inside is. Oh my God, you could crawl in there. Maybe there's a person in there and they wait it.

I think I've realized through this that no one, there's no gauge to like know how heavy things are. That's not a thing you're supposed to really Yeah, he just picked up a point. Yeah, you did.

I really, I really blew it. We should collude. I get Algier. You get Minungai. Oh, no. So, Craig. So let's just go through these guys

together. We can be quick. Knight from the Cardinals, but they're on by. Bam Knight surpassed Michael. I was wrong about that. Michael Carter, I was like, oh, he'd be over Bam Knight. Bam Knight was the starter for them. 14 carries, 57 yards, three catches.

I guess he needed running back for Beyond next week. He had Bam Knight, but then it's like, is tremendous to get come off. Who knows? It's a mess there. He'll be back soon. Tyler Murray will be back, so the offense will get worse. But anyway, Bam Knight's on bye. What do he marks on Monday in football?

I don't know if he even counts. He's available. He's not, I don't know. Craig, so Godspeed, like, who do you even want? Oh, well. Frantically Googling. No, just my, I kind of, if I have to pick a guy who I like, I like Breschard Smith, the rookie on the Chiefs. Creamhunt got banged up. He did come back in the game.

Yeah. I mean, he had 14, he had 19 touches in this game. They obviously destroyed the Raiders. They're playing Washington, Washington. He got the fourth quarter. And Washington, they're playing Washington who might be without Jaden. Right. So I'm like, Richard Smith. The reason I like Brashard Smith, I mean, just a bunch of random guys.

I just think he's good and, like, might get touches. Tadj Spears is going to get catches. I'm like. I think you, realistically, anyone you pick, you're just praying to get a touchdown. And the reality is you might as well pick someone that if they end up playing well

could actually hold going forward. And Rashad Smith is just, Kareem Hunt got hurt. We don't know how, I don't think it's a long-term thing, but he's, Kremehunt is no juice. Yeah.

Richard Smith has juice. Pacheco kind of, like, Richard Smith, there's a lot of weapons there, but he could have more juice for the Chiefs as the season goes. Yeah.

Tazji Spears, the Titans are going to suck all year. Also, Asana Haskins, the line is destroyed for the Chargers. Like, None of these guys are. Rashad Smith brings something to the team

that I think that the other running backs don't have. He has a juice in electricity to him that Kremont and Zayabacheco don't have. They also kind of scheme him up plays. They will run screens for him and things like that. He's carving out a role for himself in the offense and slowly with surely. He's slowly proving himself.

19 touches though in this last game. I mean, it was 31-0 in the fourth quarter. True, true. But I mean, you're right. I mean, you don't give a player 19 touch-ins. They're trying to acclimate him. Yeah. Well, if they didn't want anyone.

get hurt. But Isaiah Davis for the Jets is that kind of like, oh, I'm like, oh, but then you have a running back of the Jets? Who fucking cares? It's like the speed, tight charge of Spiers. You want a team, oh, congrats. You're starting running back for a shitty offense that can't run. That won't be in the red zone one time. Exactly. So I agree with what you're saying. And then like, Bachel Tootin is interesting, but like the Jaggers are on by. I'm like, I'm not getting the ball. I know, but they're on by. I know he's not getting the ball. I'm like, oh, maybe these guys all suck. We'll come back to him later. But like, no, it's, this is. So yeah, I think that

That one's really easy. Al Jir first. Manungai second. And I agree. Richard's in third and pray. Okay. Receivers. Yeah.

DK., who's your number one receiver if you need someone for week eight? Again, it's kind of a tough choice. Why you always go to DK first? Oh, okay, fine. Screw you. Hey, DK.

Hey, DK. Yeah. Somebody else do it. Look at me. Go fuck yourself. Craig, who do you want receiver number one receiver? Darnel Mooney.

Thank you for asking. Darnel Mooney's been super banged up all year, but when he does play, they use him a lot. To the detriment of Drake London, who the splits with, Drake London has without Darnell Mooney are pretty remarkable. But Darnel Mooney is like a player who has had a thousand yards in his season.

Like Darno Mooney is good. He's had a game this year where he had 11 targets. He had 68 yards last night in the nasty Monday night game. When Darnel Mooney's on the field, like Michael Panix throws to him. And again, they're playing Miami. I had Darnal Mooney too for the same reason. If Darno Mooney is just, this is not a sexy thing to say. He's the best number two receiver on waivers.

He's the number two receiver in that offense ahead of pits. and I think that it hasn't been reflected because he's been heard he was heard for August and then he was from the beginning of year he aggravated it's the same thing as Alger where I'm like the dolphin's defense sucks

and they've been trying there's a chance that the dolphins just quit on the team this week but even if they don't when the dolphins secondary has been trying it hasn't really reflected so I mean I think Mooney is like clearly this week he's one of the few guys

that could succeed and also like have some sort of staying power for the next month or so so I agree with that I would take Darnumoney first Daniel. I'll go with Mooney as well, but I want to just throw out Kishon Booty again as an option. If you feel a little bit better about that. The reason that I like him here

is that you're connecting him with a guy who's playing at a very high level at quarterback in Drake May. And he's passing the ball down the field a lot. He's actually one of the best deep ball passers in the NFL right now. He has five deep touchdowns, which is tight for second most in the NFL. If you look at some of the efficiency numbers, he's been really accurate down the field. So that's kind of Kashon Booty's role and specialty in the offense. Bet on talent because Booty is talented at the catch point. Drake May is talent.

It's fun to watch on Sundays because you actually get to watch Drake May have a good season. And also you get a guy in your fantasy team named Booty. You can make that, you're, I mean, can you guys, how do you guys feel about like a waiver name, a waiver wire guy? Like changing your name of your fantasy team. The vibes. Bringing in the vibes. I don't mind it at all. I'm down.

Change your name every week if you want. I think it's great. So because like Booty, like there's obviously needs to say there's a lot of good. A lot of good names. The booty call. Yeah. So, but I'm going to stick with Mooney

just because... He was proud of that. No, I know. I wasn't that proud of it. A lot of good names. Booty call. And we moved on. Spitballing here,

you know. And I'm trying to think of something that's... John David Booty. Just go straight, you know. Booty, booty, booty, booty, booty, rocking in a will. That too. I don't know if that's...

One more times. I couldn't hear you. What was that? No. Okay. Yeah, sure, take booty. I'm no longer playing your game. As if it's...

Okay. Yeah, we'll do trivia. Trivia for Mooney? I think there's a tier, though, three. Mooney, first for me. Yeah. Booty, because it's, I mean, ass. Troy Franklin for the Broncos, who, I mean, he had, what?

He had a fake touchdown. I refuse. I refuse. He got the hook and ladder sent to him. I will not. Okay, but. The Troi Franklin thing's fake, but they're playing the Cowboys who give up 410 yards again.

Yeah, so. He had 10 targets. Who's the fifth string receiver on the Broncos right now? I was going to see Devon Valet, but he's actually on the Saints now, which is so funny. It'll be that guy. Troy Franklin's targets are much higher. than you would expect for somebody performing as kind of little as he is.

But he does have high targets. I agree that everything you're saying about like you hate Sean Payton, you don't want to trust him. I mean, it's not just Sean Payton. It's like the Packers. The point of the offense is you don't know where the ball's going. It's the opposite of Stafford where Stafford's like, or the Flacco.

Now it's got to be called the flack of, well, Jamar Chase is going to throw it that way. Yeah. And it's like, then there's the Matt Lafleur, the Sean Payton of like, why the fuck would I telegraph where the ball's going on a particular where some fantasy football podcast could figure out where I'm going at the ball.

I don't want to tell people to know that. The flip side of me is Dallas's defense allows so much yardage to everybody that in a week like this where there are six teams on buy, beggars can't be choosers. And if you can just have a guy who's probably going to get eight targets against a team allowing 400 plus yards a week, I can't do better than that. So that's why Darnell Muni for the Falcons,

Troy Franklin for the Broncos, in case nobody for the Patriots, is my top tier. And you could even convince me the fourth guy should be Marvin Mims, also in the Broncos, just because someone on Dallas will have like 120 yards. and two touchdowns. Yeah. I'm sorry, someone on Denver

versus Dallas will have 100. And I'm like, well, you have a one in three shot. Yeah. What about Alec Pierce? You could do that as well. 10 targets. Five catches 98 yards.

Yeah. They're an absolute fucking wagon. They are. Pierce is really good in the role that Indianapolis wants him to play. He's kind of perfect and he's genuinely like a fantastic downfield threat.

You could do, Pierce probably ahead of Mims. I think, yeah, then that's probably made of the top five. They're playing Tennessee. You could argue Pierce should be second because he's, I mean,

it's the same. It's kind of the same argument for Kisham Bouti is like you're in a good offense. They're pushing the ball down the field. He has a very specific role and he might catch a couple of big passes. And yeah, he needs one play away from being worth. And again, I know this is that. We can move on. It's like these guys all suck, but these guys are pretty solid.

Like, yeah. It's a, it's a, I know it's funny. It's not terrible. This is a hard week. No, these are, receiver you're better off this week. Like these options are solid. Mooney, Franklin, Marvin Mims, Kisham Bouty, Alec Pierce. All those guys, any of them can deliver for you.

All right, that means it's time. It's time for the darnel Mooney. It is time for the darnel Mooney. Showdown time. Bang. For that wash over you. All right. Bang.

Give me something good. No giant pumpkins. So we, if you weren't listening, I don't remember what episode it was. Last week, we really showed our ass totally. Showed our booty. Showed our booty, if you will. That we have no idea how the WW works. It is a total blind spot for all three of us.

Oh, right. That's my bad. And we just absorb it through culture a little, but like we have no idea what we're talking about. Yeah. So, let me be clear. I don't judge it. I just don't know like anything. If anything, our entire culture has actually become WWE. But that's another conversation.

This is from Nick. Nicky. And bone. Wait, that don't do that one. That's, come on. So Nick says, the undertaker, sorry, geez, the undertaker, aka the dead man, aka the American badass was one of WW's most enduring

and high-profile characters. He's the owner of, quote, The Streak. A series of consecutive victories at WW's flagship event, WrestleMania. So the question is, how many years

did the Undertaker's undefeated streak at WrestleMania last? Wow, okay. It's a good question. He does the tombstone. What's his move where he like has the guy upside down, drops him?

like, like, like, I don't know, that's like a finishing move. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, it's funny because it's like

a finishing move that's like 69, but no, I know, he just drops them on the same. Is it called the tombstone? I don't know. We're doing the same thing.

You're asking the wrong. You're asking the wrong. All the people listening or ghosts just screaming into the void. All right. How long was his reign at wrestling? Do you know that?

Do you know what years he was active? I don't know anything. Oats? The early odds. Everything into the 2010s, I think I think I know about wrestling is from the

He doesn't know. He's the meme of the guy. He's the guy that just like sits up. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, sure.

The ring are great. Invincent McMahon. Yes, Mr. McMahon on Netflix. It's actually fantastic. All of my knowledge is from Vandre the Giant Doc at this. Another good one. Okay.

Okay. Three. All right. How long, how many years in a row did Undertaker win WrestleMania? Three, two, one. Four.

I said 12. You said 14? Four. Has to be more than four. You think they named it the streak for four years? Actually, I guess... Yeah, motherfucker, that's what I think.

Hyvitz is the king of criticizing you before reading the answer. Oh, Jesus Christ. I'm just fucking guessing out of my ass. My hit rate on that is probably 90% DK wins. Like, whoever he holds out is... Now I'm like, actually, DK's gonna win. It's gonna be fine.

You know what? That's a fucking dynasty in the NFL. Good look. Oh, he didn't even include it. I guess we have to Google it. This is what happens and you'd be like, excuse me of cheating. That's something we don't have the fucking answer. The streak. Watch it be four.

21. 21 years? That seems pretty boring. They should change it up. Hell yeah. So Craig, you get Darnal Mooney and I get... 21 years.

Oh, wait, wait. 21 consecutive victories. Oh, no. At Rettomania or in a row? The streaks span 23 years. 91 to 2014. He went 21 and over that stretch. That's a lot.

Yeah, ended in 2014. That's Tom Brady's entire career. Imagine Tom Brady won the Super Bowl for every year of his career. Yeah. That's like too many. So wait, he was, Undefeated that whole time.

So he's the champion for 23 years? Oh, okay. But he said flagship. This is where I don't know the... I think I misunderstood the question. The money and the bet. What did you think the question was? I thought it was like he was the champion of the WWE or WWF for like...

That's how I know you're old. You said, yeah. Well, yeah, that's what it was when I was growing up. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, he won WrestleMania every year. I don't know what that means. Does that make you the champion? You weren't listening what I was saying.

He was like, oh, I don't know what... He said the flagship event. But no, it's WrestleMania. How many years in a row to win WrestleMania? This is like all the soccer championships. I don't know what the fuck it means. Oh my God, dude. My friend is sure explained to me that like,

the Copa day, whatever. I'm like, okay, cool. My friend's like a Tottenham fan and he was like, oh yeah, this is like the thing. I thought you guys missed out on the Champions League. He's like, yeah, yeah, this is the FAA Cup. And I'm like, what's that? He's like, it's a different tournament.

I'm like, do you want to win it? He's like, yes, do you care about it? He's like, no. It's like, why do they even participate? He's like, oh, I don't know, something for the cabinet. Yeah. And I'm like, what? Yeah, I truly, I have like no idea what's going on with soccer.

I actually have a request for next week. Can you guys email and trivia questions about like the premiere? Dude, it's the original Ted Lasso bit from the commercial, not even the show. It's like how many countries are in this country? Yeah. I feel like you can you can be playing simultaneously in three different leagues. Right. Well, I do know, I know enough.

And then there's loans too. Yeah. Well, are we getting into this? Because I know little. Not enough to make people upset. Let's not. The champions, it is a good system. Well, I like the relegation.

All that's great. But isn't it like you can be playing for your country while playing for your team, which is a part of a different league in a different country, but then you can also be playing in a third thing. So there's two to, yes, so there's, I can't,

God, me explaining soccer is going to make so many people mad. I'm going to try. No, I'm sure it'll be good. So there's the Premier League, which is like the NFL for Europe. Yeah.

Like, or the NFL for England. And that's obviously. People are just furious. No, it is. That's right. And there's relegation.

You get that. So underneath that, there's all these other leagues. The Champions League, but the point being, every country has their pro league. Like there is a pro league in Italy. There's a pro league,

like La League in Spain, like Netherlands. Like every country has their version of like their NFL. And the Premier League in England is like the NFL of the one that's the most respected and the best teams are usually there.

But then the Champions League is all the other pro leagues from all the countries getting auto bits. So it's kind of more like, think of it almost for our system, almost like England is like the SEC. And then like Spain is like the big,

Big 10 and then like Italy is like the pack. So then the college football player for whatever is the Champions League, which is like a 32. I forget how many teams are in it. And they all, the winners, they're top two, top four, depending how it is. And it's like the Premier League gets more bids the same way that the SEC is going to get more teams into championship. And then the champion of all the Champions League, that's the coolest thing you can win. So like England is like the best thing. But Real Madrid has like won the most.

So it's kind of like a Big Ten school. SEC is the best Premier League. But Real Madrid is actually for the last 25 years. Because they're winning the Champions League. Yeah. It's like they're like Ohio State and then like, or I guess Alabama or whatever, but then like Barcelona is like Michigan, but like they're not the best conference necessarily. The SEC is probably the best conference. Okay.

So then that's like the professional leagues and they all interact. Then there is also a season for like international competition, which is every four years the World Cup, off staggered with the Olympics where the Olympics actually, it's like junior teams because they actually care more about the World Cup than the Olympics. So some teams have younger players play. And then they have like UEFA, which is like Europe. So every, the staggered four years is like, they'll have UEFA, which is like the European championships. Uwafa.

Uif, yeah, sorry. Uwifa or Uwifa? Any sport, I can't pronounce it right. Okay. But anyway, so. I'm falling. Are you? I think it kind of like knew all this, but yeah.

Oh, it's good. I don't think I could have outlined. I don't know. I tried to tell you to stop. Oh. That's true. He did. No, I know.

I don't think I could have outlined that as clearly. Sure. So I, yeah, that was helpful. I would love for soccer fans to email in and be like just, just shred me. I mean, it's probably wrong in some ways and right in some ways. Yeah. Anyway, okay. Who's your favorite soccer team? Do you have one?

My roommate, like, the last time I had a roommate, he was a Tottenham fan, and so I would try it and I got it. It was right when, oh, God, who's their best friend? Harry Kane? Harry Kane, you like that poll? D.K. Look at you. No big deal. Harry Kane's brother was like at someone's wedding talking in the telegraph or one of those British papers got it all over that he wanted out and whatever. It was like a drama because he was like, you know. So I was like, oh, and I tried.

And they have another great son. It's just awesome for them. But like, realistically, I didn't care enough. Like, I will watch matches because they're interesting. But like, I can't even keep track of who my friends like. I'm like, I don't remember. I'm pretty pathetic. I'm like, I like, I like the World Cup.

Sure. You know? Yeah, it's fun. Italy versus England. We're like, people turn on the Super Bowl and watch the corner. I'm like, oh my God. Is that today? And they're like, it's the biggest event in the world.

Like the Champions League Final. I'm like, oh, my God. Yeah. That's, is that now? I'm kind of the exact same way. I'm like, oh, wow. Same. Anyway.

And then I always convince myself I'm going to get into it and then I don't. Email a soccer trivia, please, at Fannie. So going back, I got Mooney-Fi. You have second pick. I'm going to take Troy Franklin and I'll let D.K. get Kashon Booty. Or Alec Pierce, that's up to you. Who you want?

I'll take booty. Okay. And then I think Alex Pearson, Marvin Minns are the other two. If you want like Jalen Coker. Andy Dalton is might start for Carolina this week. Bryce Young is high ankle sprain. I feel like Andy Dalton will play. Is he on the Chikobi percent list of like the Panthers will get better?

I think there's a chance there's a one week Dalton bump. That always happens. Key bump. I actually think Dalton's better than Young. I think Kirk Cousins would play better than Pennix. You think Dalton is just straight up better than Bryce Young right now? Yeah, kind of. Really?

I mean, he could just come in. It suck. But I kind of think he'll just play better. Okay. You think that too? Yeah, yeah. You think Andy Dolton's better than Bryce Young? Could be better or could be worse.

Yes. The Panthers have a winning record. I don't think Bryce is, I don't think Bryce is good enough to be like, it's sort of in the same vein as like Flacco. I think, I think Dalton could look good in some games and then look completely horrific. I'm asking if point blank, right, for the rest of the year, you could have one quarterback, Andy Dalton or Bryce Young. To win more games.

Yeah, to win more games. I would have Bryce. Okay. But I don't, I think about that. I think my point was like Andy Dalton doesn't make them. horrific. Oh, no, I was just saying, like, who's better? Watching Flacco.

I think Bryce is better. Look, Flacco gets a cheat code because he just has Jamar Chase and, like, the Steelers didn't take him away. But I do, at some point, the competency, like, it's like the roller coaster. Like, are you tall enough to ride the ride? Well, Bryce kind of literally, but like, are you competent enough? Can you just understand what's going on in an offense and execute a given plan? And I'm not saying Bryce can, but I'm like, Dalton can.

And it's like, it's actually crazy that all these guys are hanging around. I do. And again, he could come and it suck, but I kind of don't think he will. No, I agree with that. I think Dalton will probably be a serviceable backup. I was just saying in a vacuum, you were like, oh, I think Dalton is just better than Bryce Young, which surprised me. If it was one of those where like we don't care about developing Bryce and we're not

a sunk cost of the first pick or whatever. Yeah, their goal was like, however many games you can win this season, that's all that matters. You think it's Dalton? We will be like, the human race will be wiped out if the Panthers don't win nine games this year. I would actually play any goal. But again, I could be wrong. Maybe he's just suck on Sunday, but I, that's kind of, geez.

Funny if they kept winning the job from the other one. Like Dalton plays great. They stick with him the rest of the year. Then he gets hurt. Bryce Young comes in. Plays for 10 weeks, gets hurt. And it's just like year cycles. Only thing I want to say for a move on receivers is just Jaden Higgins for the Texans and Luther Burden for the Bears both play tonight and the rookies.

And we say every week don't give up. Burden. If the rookies do anything tonight, also add them. Because they, if Jane Higgins does anything. He doesn't play tonight. Oh, you sorry. No, no, no. I'm sorry.

That's true. Just Jane Higgins. Sorry. There you go. Burden played this week. He had a couple of plays. but he actually, his snap rate actually went down. So it's not great.

Yeah, exactly. If the snap right goes down, that's bad. All right, tight end. This one's the easy. We all have a Ronda Gadsden for the charges, right? Yeah, I mean, he did something that very few tight ends do as rookies. Seven catches for 164 yards in a touchdown. There are a lot of rookies that don't do that for two months at a time.

So we can just. Also, he had eight targets this week, eight targets a week before. He looks extremely athletic and explosive. Like, he looks very physically gifted. Yeah. I agree. I agree. That's not my thing.

You know that's his thing. Oh, I know. It's not looking at him. He looks different than most tight ends to me physically in terms of, he looks closer to a wide receiver. Yeah, yeah. I guess I'm just saying he's basically more agile than the average tight end. Yeah, I agree.

I agree. That's what you're looking for. You know how this goes. I get it. I get it. All NFL players are athletic. Right? Yeah, you know, in his defense, you know, we can't just be

What did you call Jake Ferguson a lumbering oaf? Number one tied-in in fantasy. Just saying. While I was propping him up, by the way, for the record. That was funny when we had that whole 10-minute argument about athletic tight-ins, and then you just read a list of Mark Andrews, Ferguson, and Ertz. And all... He's just his own eight-yard catch merchant, that's all.

He's with Dak. Yeah. Oh, cool. It's a perfect situation. You sit there 10 yards down the field while CD and Pickens run crazy. Okay, let's just do this. Or under Gadsden's Showdown time. Yeah, it's Gadsden.

All right, it is the Arronday Gadsden. There's two D's there. Showdown time. That's the only good part of my day. Okay. This is from Matt. Matt. M. Bone.

Matthew. This question is related to Jerry Jones saying he knows where the sun will be almost a year in advance. Uh-oh. So not only does humanity know the exact path of the sun through the sky for centuries to come. We also know the exact path of the moon through the sky for centuries. So with this, NASA has actually

mapped out all solar eclipses through the year 3,000? Oh, wow. So the question is, how many solar eclipses, how many total solar eclipses? Will there be on Earth in the 30th century? So 2,900 to 3,000. The year 2,901 to 3,000, how many total? So 100 years. Over that 100 years,

over that 100 years, how many total solar eclipse? In other words, as Jerry... As Jerry Joe said, how about the sun, how about the moon. That's the question. I don't know. No, I know. Because it's like lunar eclipse of solar? I don't know. I don't know. I have my answer. I'm sure you do. Sure.

A hundred years? No. I have no fucking clue. Whatever. Yeah, yeah. Three, two, one. Nine. 50.

I said six. I said nine. 50. It was probably way too high. Because I was just thinking how many total solar eclipses have we seen? I don't know the handful. The answer is, what's stupid? 248.

Over a hundred years? There's two and a half a year? I guess. I guess it's the whole world. Oh. Because we only see some. Not just Los Angeles. Oh yeah.

Damn, I didn't think about that. You're smart. You knew that. That's why you guessed that. Because you factored that in. Yeah, he thought about it. Global. Deke gets Gadsden.

What'd you say? Nine. Oh, so you go second. I'll take, this is contingent on, I guess, what happens tonight. But it's really not because I'm assuming Abuka and a lot of people are going to be out still for the box.

But I would take K dot and the tit in for the box, as long as a lot of these guys are still hurt. Well, I saw today that Abuka might play, or he's going to play. Do you still want to feel that way? Tonight? Yeah. Abuka's playing tonight? Yeah.

I know. I got to make some changes. Oh, wow. No, that does change things, actually. Otten plays, though. It's like, I mean. I know, but, oh, wow. Okay, this gets tricky.

Other guys, I'm considering Theo Johnson on the Giants. There's Isaiah likely. It's funny because now that Lamar Jackson's coming back. Watch Otten's going to have two touchdowns tonight, and they're going to lose. I mean, yeah. Abuka might. Yeah, he might like not play a ton.

Yeah. All right, you know what? I'm going to say Auden and then you're going to say Isaiah likely, right? Maybe. No, honestly, I don't think I'll say Isaiah likely because Lamar didn't practice today Monday. It's weird because I like Isaiah likely because at some level it's all a fucking dart throw

and they scored touchdown. The difference is if the Ravens like lose to the bears this week and then like Mark Ganges gets traded. Isay likely to be valuable? But it's like if and if and if. I don't know. I'm going to go with Otten. That's fine.

Part of me, what do you guys think? Part of me is like between Theo Johnson. Oh, no, sorry, this is Gadsden's gone. If you're saying Otton, I'm between Isaiah likely and Theo Johnson. Theo Johnson. If you have Theo Johnson and Tri-Franklin, you have two guys who just catch-tipped touchdowns. I know, that's funny. It's not about that with the 60s.

Theo Johnson had like seven targets, and I know they were throwing a lot, but they do look to Theo Johnson a lot in the end zone because Wando's not a red zone. Like, Theo Johnson, in the 20, inside the red zone, kind of the number one receiver for the Giants look to, which is kind of all you want at some point. But I get it. Also, weirdly, Mason Taylor for the Jets, I don't think I want to do this, but if Tarot Taylor ends up starting over Fields...

Oh, yeah, you'd be better. I think, like, I refuse to play Mason Taylor as Fields plays. I don't want to any... Even Garrett Wilson, I'm like, I can't do this anymore. Mason Taylor, I think, becomes viable if Tarot Taylor's playing, but I would probably just go with Isaiah likely. But even then, if Lamar doesn't play,

I don't want Isaiah likely either. I'd rather have Theo Johnson... Yeah. I know it's kind of a cop-out, but if Lamar isn't practicing on, like, Wednesday, then like I would just do Theo Johnson, you know, tight end. So I guess I'll go with him. But if Lamar comes back, I would do likely.

I think Lamar's going to be back. If Lamar's back, I'll do as they're likely. Yeah. So am I saying, like, I guess I got to pick here. Fuck it, I'll do like. The longest boss. I'll do likely. Well, we got dead air.

If Lamar's playing, I'll do likely. Because also, it's like, you kind of want good offenses. And it's like, the Ravens with Lamar, still a good offense in might, hopefully. And like, you're taking Baker or not. And, like, that's fun. I'm just, I'm just.

I'm just basking in the Gadsden pick. I'm loving it. Okay. Rolling through the southern quarterback slim pick. Can't believe this is my life? What is that? What is the? This is a beggars can't be choosers week if you got to stream.

I mean, if they're available, Jackson Dart for the Giants, obviously, they're rushing. Aaron Rogers is playing Greed Bay. I mean, he's going to try to throw five touchdowns. I don't know if these guys are available, but if they are, that would be, to me, be obvious. If not, and you need a quarterback to stream. I feel like Marcus Mario da for Washington because they're playing the Chiefs. I don't think Jane Daniels is going to play this week.

He has hamstring injury. Apparently day to day. I don't think he's going to play. Yeah. So I think Marioo, I mean, he runs in his offense. Like,

I really think Marioita could very easily be a top five quarterback at fantasy this week, even if Washington gets crushed. So I think Mario is easily the answer. Joe Flacco, the Bengals, I mean, beggars can't be cheusers.

Like, he's got Chase. He's got Higgins. Like, I mean, clearly can make it happen. And then Michael Pennix versus Miami. I know Sunday football wasn't great, but Miami defense sucks ass.

So Mario to Flacco Panics, one of those guys should be available, although I would take Jackson Dart or even Rogers over those guys. Defenses, Houston's defense is just weirdly available. Like, they're on by, like, just check.

And like Houston's defense is really good and watch them get shredded. A lot of people stream defenses. Yeah, if you're on high, they just drop them. Yeah. We are recording this before Monday in football. Maybe they got shredded,

but I would go to Houston defense. Niners versus Houston isn't crazy to me. Bill's versus Panthers that they have Andy Dalton is crazy. But I would say Houston defense is one. I would actually say the Falcons defense versus Miami has to be two. Like the Falcons defense is obviously playing well past Rush Miami's a mess. I don't have to explain to people.

Like they're playing awful. Like Falcons defense is easy. That's my favorite one, I think. They're 9% rostered on Yahoo. I would like, the Falcons defense is super available and like probably one of the last defenses you can go get in a crowded league that's like, could you might actually be able to ride all year. So I would go Falcons.

And if they're gone, Bucks defense week eight versus Saints. I know there's a chance that the Bucks got shredded on defense tonight versus the Lions. But Saints and Rattler versus Todd Bowles, they have to lose three or four more guys in defense. We're not like that. But I certainly go Houston defense first, Falcons defense second,

bucks defense third. And then if you, I mean, if you're really all those gone diners. But with that said, yeah, so that's waivers. This episode is brought to you by IKEA.

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Dream the possibilities. And you guys want to do some emails? Yeah. So yeah. And just a reminder, we have power Wednesday. Send us fantasy courts. Emails fantasy court, cases, emails trivia.

I kind of want some soccer trivia now. I don't know what I want, but I want Premier League stuff. Or just facts, whatever. Do we emails first, but first. Do we want to start with Craig? Mom texted you about the show we recorded yesterday. Yeah.

So this morning, I'm driving in to work and I get a text for my mom. I was at a stoplight. I glanced. And it says this, dad and I just watched a new fantasy clip. Why do you look so sweaty? Are you feeling okay? Was it hot in the office? It was kind of hot in that room.

I guess so. I will say that. I'm sensitive to the hot. I said, Jesus, Mom, what kind of thing is that to say to someone? She said, I'm sorry you took it that way. Dad and I were worried thinking that maybe you were getting sick. it was meant with love. It looks like a little jaundice here.

I guess, he got some like sheen happening on your forehead. Yeah, I guess there's like a glistening going on. It's my Botox maybe looking a little bit tight. I don't know. But, um, yeah,

I just never worried about you. Called me out point blank. I like that as both your parents. Dad and I were wondering if maybe you're getting sick. Did she use the word sickly or sick? You're looking poorly. Well, she's saying what,

I think why do you look so sweaty as the worst part? Why he looks so sweaty? Like, ugh. Are you feeling okay? Was it hot in the office? It's like trying to give me an out. Honestly, it was funny. That room was exceptionally cold.

I know it was. It got hot during the show, though. Yeah. It gets hot under the lights. Yeah, they turn the lights up. It gets warm. It didn't agree with my skin tone, I guess. Anyway, that kind of stung to start my day.

As I had like five on five more recordings. Didn't she said, sorry you took it that way? Yeah, she did. Yeah. Sorry if you were offended. Yeah. We need to get your mom a PR firm. Can you email us

Real Fantasy Football at Gmail.com? Sorry if I offended you. Email us other texts. Blunt boomer text, for lack of a better term. Like, things your parents text you. Well, because remember we already did that one one train with the dad's. Okay. Dad, I just had a baby boy.

I named him after you. Thumbs up. So good. Thumbs up emergency. Oh my God. It's so good. Yeah. If I could be half the father you were, I would be a good dad.

Thumbs up. Email is more text. It's so funny. More just parents not knowing. It says like watching mess. It's so good. Call me as soon as you can. Fuck, what the hell happened?

Oh my God, who's dead? He's like, yeah, no, I just had a second. What's up? I, uh, most of my texts of my parents now are just screenshoting every scam text I get and setting it to them and be like, don't respond to this. Yeah. Like every, I don't know if you guys, this is taken up, this takes up more, like a crazy percentage of my.

communications by parents is just protecting them from fraud. Screenshoting texts and being like, don't respond to these people. I just got a text during this recording like five minutes ago that I deleted that said,

hey, my car broke down, can you come pick me up? I know. From a random number. You just left your friend hanging there, my best friend. I don't have his number though,

but it's my best friend. But do you know that there's a new one they have now where someone actually sends you money on Zelle? Really? And then they're like, can you send it back?

Oh, wow. And if someone breaks into their account and then they send their money all the way out. But then they said it you sell it back, but the scammers are taking that. The idea is like the bank will reimburse the person, but not because they got hacked, but not you because you willingly sent the money. So it's like, but it's like shit where it's like, yeah, I don't know how my parents would

think of that. Like, oh, they got sent money to send it back to this person. Some of the scams are actually pretty. They're getting good. They're getting pretty high level. Now people are talking about how you need like a safe word where because you'll get phone calls and it'll sound like my mom is getting a call from me and I'll be frantic saying I need money.

Oh, because of like AI and everything. Thank God there's no like recordings of our voices out there anyway. No, I don't. I can't think of a single instance. Yeah, there's one that's happening. That's what you need to say for it to like prove that it's you. Right, that's a good call. I want this to email us about.

Mine is Gadsden. Ronday. Mine is Manungai. Menungi and Gadsden. There's one going on now where people will call you and they can spoof a number onto your phone. I know. So it looks like they're calling from, for instance, what they say is the sheriff's department and they're like something to do with a bond you have to pay because whatever

i can't remember how they do it and then they'll even say you can call my captain or whatever and then you'll look up the number and it's like the actual number for it's crazy the sheriff's department and they somehow figure out a way to like spoof these numbers it's so advanced yeah it is so advanced and so now you can't even it's crazy is and i had to tell my parents it's like you can only exist within the app on your phone because like even they've managed to do did you see the other day at Google just limited search to only 10 pages. Because what these sites are doing, they figured out how to use AI to create so many fake web pages

to just overwhelm the Gemini at the top of Google that if you actually create 100,000 dead internet web pages that say the phone number for, I won't list the bank. I see, yeah. This is the help number. AI will. Gemini doesn't know that 100,000 pages are wrong. And so the actual number you Google to suggest the job,

even like like bank support. That number, they're geared. So that's the thing. It's like, oh, what's the, but if you do like, oh, here's the, they're like, they're like, flooding the learning model. So you create 500 pages that say the sheriff number is that. So you Google it. You just call that number.

And they're creating a loop. So it's like, you can't even trust things you Google anymore. But the other crazy. So I know this is, but this is like my life. I'm serious. Like I know I'm Randy. Yeah. It's crazy how good this stuff has gotten.

This is why I don't ever respond to any messages or email or, or, uh, voicemails. You know that you guys get the parking in for someone. the please pay now like easy pass or tolls or unpaid tolls like those ones. Wall Street Journal just had an article that scammers in China made $1 billion from those texts last year. It's a massive industry. Just one billion dollars from just the toll text, the easy pay this toll now urgent. And they're like, you have to pay this before.

And they create the fake panic and fake urgency. And I'm like, is this real? Dude, the fake panic and fake urgency. And they're just like, you have to do it. And like they create a whole. Especially if they can figure out if you were just on the freeway and the next day you get the text. I highly recommend if you get these, just screenshot. Just send me to your parents.

It takes two seconds. But yeah, email us about these stuff. If anyone knows about how this works, please email it. I won't go into anything happening in the world in politics and government right now, but I will say, how the fuck can they not fix this? Just, I don't know, anyway. There was, I was, I saw one battle after another last week. And, you know, that movie is about like very charged moment in the political climate.

It's about like government power, all this stuff. And in the middle of the movie, my phone starts. buzzing, I'm getting a call. I pull out my phone and it just says the United States government. And I was like... How do you scare some? How should we scare this guy? Yeah. Did they know I'm in this movie? It's unbelievable. But it was a congressman leaving a message about... The United States stuff.

But it just said the United States or maybe the federal government. It's true. The caller ID can be manipulated too, which is also like crazy. Liz got a call from Apple once. And it was not Apple. Dude, you can't trust... Again, what's funny is the phone companies can't figure out how to make the phone call. Like, I can't trust a phone call. I'm like, you're the phone companies. I might go back to my LG rumor.

That's the phone. Honestly, maybe. Anyway, careful out there. Good luck, everybody. What was your favorite phone pre-Iphone? Oh, the, um, that's a great, the razor. The Motorola razor with the sound. Oh, I never had a razor.

The LG rumors slapped. Dude, this is the one that, like, would twist and you open up the cordy keyboard. It didn't twist. It just slid. You're thinking of the sidekick. Yeah, yeah. The sidekick kind of like. There is a website.

So you like the full-on on, like, having a keyboard. Go landscape mode, full keyboard. I mean, thumbs going crazy. I had a BlackBerry back in the day that I really liked. Oh, I used to play Burke Breaker on my parents' BlackBerrys. Dude, Nokia on the original

Nokia was, I can't please you never do. Oh, there's a website. That's a lot. So many buttons. What was your first cell phone? It was a Motorola flip phone thing. Nice. And it like plugged,

it had like a big battery pack. Like two pounds. And it like would, you had to plug it into your fucking, uh, cigarette lighter in the car. to make it work. It was a mobile phone.

It was like not a cell phone. It was a mobile phone. Do you guys remember the one big brick-looking ones? Yeah. Like Gordon Gecko, Will Smith and Fresh Prince? I never had one of those. But it's a great meme anyway. There was this website called, I think it's Save the Sounds.

That info where it's just all these old sounds. And they just like... Oh, wow. That's very distinctive. Yeah. I want another one. Nice. I want.

They have... I don't want some old rotary phone. Oh, yeah. Save the sounds like Tentress. Dude, they have all this great... Oh, wait, CD. I don't know what that is. I don't know that way, that's a weird one.

Oh, hold on. Hold on, wait. Typewriter. D.K. You like this one. Ah. That's the old message. AOL. That's AOL and it's a messenger, right?

I don't know what that is. Okay, now see you. Check the fuck up. That was another tab that D.K. It's just gone. No, no. No, it is the site is the same site. and I hit, I don't even know what the fuck this is, but now I know.

That was like a fucking Tim Robinson sketch right there. No. Oh, fuck. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. Oh, God. Look, look, it's the fucking website. Mack.

Okay, but what are you trying to tell us? You're really going out of your way. We were just joking. Did you, by the way, did you see the first episode of the chair company? No. It's so fucking funny. I can't wait. Oh, my God.

I watched you do. Did you watch friendship? No, but I've, no, I probably should. Friendship is really good. I was like, probably the same mood or whatever. I think so. Oh, my God. I resolved to watch Friendship at theaters and I missed it.

Okay. I have, I want an email here, great email here from Bob. Bobby! Bobbe, Bebon. Robert. So breakfast is a banana followed by smoothie with goat milk, protein powder, creatine, spinach, cheese, seeds, Greek yogurt, frozen cherries, frozen blueberries, and then also two cups of coffee. Toss that banana into the smoothie.

Why is it separate? I don't think it changes the consistency of too much. I would say too much too much fiber, too fibrous. I think the banana is kind of the. foundation of all smoothies. I think banana ruins flavors of some things. Probably wants a solid base and then a smoothie. So we were talking on

Sunday, Craig was joking about how catchers should have stools. So anyway, we were talking about so anyway, Bobby and Melin, this is a great email. He says, I was listening to you guys talk about catchers and how they frame pitches. We were also about how crazy it is that the entire job of catchers just to fucking trick the ump on

every play. Like, that's like the premise of, way more of the premise of of baseball than I think I ever about is like every single pitch the goal is to trick the fucking home in addition to get the bat about hit the ball uh and bob says listening to us talk about pitch framing i actually wanted to share some information about how these two things pitch framing and cragis saying uh crouching has changed catchers don't crouch anymore what do you mean don't they don't crouch anymore they go on a knee the first 120 years of baseball catchers

would crouch. And then in the last like five years, all the catchers now go on one knee and they splute like a golden dut. They splute. They have a knee. And then they kick a leg out. And we will see tonight. You've never noticed it. No, no. I can see it now. They're on a knee. Well, they kick your leg out. They crouch for a little

while. But they almost. A lot of times they go to go to one knee. They finally came around because it was ridiculous. I'm talking 90 plus percent of pitches. 96% of catchers on 90 plus percent of pitches. And Like, and so he, Bob included, so, that's called spluting?

Well, no, I'm calling it spluding. Oh. But that's, you know what I is. They're on a knee and they kick the other leg out. And so, what is the word? Is that a real word? Like dog spute.

You know what a dog, well, it's when a dog lays, you know, like, you know, the front paws are like this. Yeah. When they, the back legs also do that. Like, splayed out. Yeah, it's like a spute, you know?

I've never heard that word. He made it up, I think. I don't think, yeah, I, yeah, actually, yeah, I invented it, you know? I've just I don't are you being facetious? I've never heard that word. Splute.

I don't know. I guess it's not as popular as I thought. Anyway, the point is they just kind of kicked the leg out. It's a catcher sploot. Okay. So even five years ago, about a quarter of catchers were on a knee

and three quarters of catchers were crouching. Yeah. This season was 96% of catchers just go on a knee. Coming around. 96%. And I was so blown away by this fact that I texted Michael Bauman. Michael Baumann works at Fangraphs.

And I texted him. why the picture what changed and I was like why do I so before I say it do you guys want to guess why they didn't there's there's two potential answers maybe it's better for picking off at first the the pitch clock made it tough to kind of crouch and stand up so many times so the the theoretical answer the theoretical answer for 120 years was like oh well it'll be harder to do wild pitches and all this stuff like oh like the wild pitches will give buy more. And they did the data and it's not even close to the truth. It's just the same as it was in 1960.

And I said, I was like, I think I know the answer here. Did they think if you were on a knee, you were like a little bitch? It's like the granny shot. Yeah. They're like, oh, so you look like a bitch if you take Castle game. Stop resting. Stop resting back there. It's exactly what it is. They just thought you were like a bitch. It was lame. If you had to go on a knee. It is so much easier

to frame pitches on one name. It is, they are, there's all these numbers here. I won't bore you, but like, Yeah, I mean, because you have so much more balance on your foundation that you can, I feel like have so much more control with your mitt. It is, you can like hold it in one spot. Yeah. It is usually for runners out. Yeah. And so.

That's so funny. One of the reasons pitchers are so much better now. It's not all these other reasons of like obviously, you know, there's more specialization. Like they're guys are, you know, they're using all this data to measure like revolutions. They're getting RPS and the spin rates. It's like, pitchers are going faster than ever. They're throwing harder than ever. The balls are spinning more than ever.

But part of it's also all the catchers are better at pitch framing now because they don't crouch anymore. Interesting. But what's funny to me about this is it took them a hundred and twenty years to stop crouching. Yeah. Like Billy Bean, 20 years after Moneyball, they were like, maybe don't crouch. Oh, that's just die hard. So anyway, Bauman. It's just how I learned.

So wait, so then Bauman. Even Billy Bean was like, no, that's kind of a bitch move. When I knew. So I texted Baum and I was like, wait, so I texted Bauman. I was like, wait. So they just were like two. proud. Like, no one was like, oh, who was the first spluter?

Well, I, it was, who's the Trailblazer? Well, there's another, he's like, yeah, you know, it's like hockey and the, you know, goalies. I was like, what? And he, I'm just going to read verbatim at Texas sent me. He said, yeah, yeah, yeah, like, you know, hockey. He's like, oh, okay, so here's the deal. Until 1986, goalies and hockey played standing up.

And then Patrick Roy came into the league and won the Stanley Cup as a rookie. And he, because he realized that if you just start with your legs, splayed out on the ground and your pads up, you just don't have a giant hole between your legs. Patrick Waugh. Patrick, oh, is spelled R-O-Y? Okay, I was, come on. It's never gonna get that.

Right? I don't know. I don't know. Why? Anyway, I'm sure. Judges? Judges? Austin doesn't know either. None of these people watch hockey.

But dude, so this is how goalies stood. This is how goalies defended the net for like years. They stood like this. Look at this. That's really funny. Sorry, I'll make it bigger way. They just stood with a giant, fucking hole between their legs.

This is how goalies played for decades. Hit it here. And then Patrick Roy was like, wah, whatever, was like, I got an idea. I just, I couldn't, I was blown away by that. They just stood up with this giant fucking hole between their legs. Austin confirmed it's wah. Patrick Waugh? Okay, how's I'm going to get to that? No, I mean, it's French, it's fine.

But, but, I mean, goalies stand up most of the game. It's only when people get close, they get down on their knees. Yes. They're also incredibly flexible. Yeah, but now. They're mostly standing still. Right? Yeah, but goalie. Which when things get chaotic, they kind of like hunker down.

Hockey has, I won't pretend to know about, I know even less about hockey than soccer, but hockey has their own version of like, you know, like NBA has this existential thing right now with threes. I'm like, you know, Kirk Goldsbury,

you're at the ringer. I had a great point about this last season of the first year there was like more mis theories than missed twos. The hockey version of that is all the goalies are physically larger now. So they're like six, seven now instead of normal size people.

They're all like, you know, small forwards. But they also all are wearing larger equipment. So like function, like they're all wearing giant. equipment. Like the pads are like three times size larger than the 6-7 person needs. They're like 7 foot two guys fitted for 6-7.

So functionally speaking, the goalie is oh my dog. Oh, 6-6. Fuck! Did 6-7? I only did it because I saw Austin back. I did the 6-7. God damn it. I want to get Kai on here to explain 6-7 at something. We don't have to sit down and be like there's nothing to explain. It's the first thing that made me really feel

really old of like I don't even get what's funny. They're like, there's nothing to get. I'm like, but then why do you laugh? I feel like there is something to get. But you're just not telling us. Anyway, the goal got smaller in hockey because the pads got bigger. And they got what, no one cares. It should make the goal bigger. That is pretty interesting.

I thought this was way more interesting. No, the old picture of him just standing. He's just standing there. Yeah. How did no one? Right through the wickets. Every time. God damn it.

It's just Bill Buckner over and over. I just can't believe that they were just standing up. That pose is hilarious. He's got a gaping hole between. Someone's just like, I got an idea. I can't get over it. That's a terrifying I mean I'm intimidated by that

He looks like fucking Michael Myers I can't believe that they would actually No who's the hockey mask what guy Michael Myers No no no no Jason Jason yeah Anyway yeah so I thought that was really That was quite sure I didn't know any that Neither did I

I didn't know that I didn't know that about the Catcher thing that is interesting though in Because there's I mean there's Evolutions in every sport like the Euro step is relatively new I'm sure there's a lot of basketball things like moves or whatever that are relatively new. The baseball thing I think

is funny because it took 12 decades to be like just don't crouch, it's stupid. Also I even mentioned that all the catchers can play more now because it doesn't hurt your knees. Yeah, that's interesting. It's so much better on wear and tear. So spiritually, my stool idea. You were 100% right and they're already doing it and it all changed in the last five years. They just need a squatty potty. Yeah, yeah. Let them go to the bathroom out there.

Okay, so yeah, that's interesting. Just a nice, cute little stool out there. The other one I got, this one's from T-Bone. Okay, T-Bone. T-Bone. We asked for basically just stories about being assholes in high school.

Oh, yeah, right. So T-Bone writes, No, being assholes, yeah. When T-Bone writes, or dumb shit we did in high school, what do we want to call it? T-bone writes, when I was in high school, my friend group decided it was just open season on Nutshots. Yeah, okay.

And this was a tacit agreement that we all had. I don't think that. I don't like that. I hate, no. And it's like, if you got hit the nuts, then it was just all your fault for not reacting. Are we talking about like punching or just like a little flack? Sack tap.

Yeah. So he's like, T-Bone's like, so I decided the joke would be on them and I wore my football cup under my pants for a year. I feel like the joke's still on him. You know, it's funny you say that. He objectively lost. He says, not sure who ended up the winner, me, just wore a cup to school for a very long time. But also like, think about, people are like, whoa, this guy's got a huge bowl.

Maybe it played up. So he's like, this guy's packing in. He's packing a niece in there. He paid off for the old T-bone. I literally was like, yeah. I'm calling T-bone for nothing. That's funny out steaked in there. That is fucking brutal.

He says, yeah, I wore tea. He literally said, did he wear like a jock strap every day? Probably. He said, I work up to school for a whole year, and then just so one time my friend tried to nutshot me and he hurt his hand a little bit. And then they made fun of T-bone for the next six months. He heard of you're wearing a cold time.

What are you doing? That's crazy. That is crazy. That's psychotic. Man, he must have really been going through it to have. to resort to a cup. But this is what it does when you're in

the nutshots are open. I hate the nutshot culture. That was too far of me. Of course. It affects your psychology.

Like the acre man thing. Not the face. I remember one time my friends and I went to a cabin and I don't remember what the girls were doing but the guys just all

we were bored and we sat down in the living room. We all just sat in a circle like on our butts with like our legs like spread out and we have like

I don't know if there's a tennis ball some type of ball and all we would do was just lob it and try to land it on your buddy's nuts. And we just did that for like a couple hours.

Yeah. And it was a great two hours. This was before the internet. Yeah. Yeah. Now you're just going. Sadly it wasn't. I know.

Very much. It's like your version of a darkness retreat. Oh my God. Yeah, dude. My friends and I joke about it all the time. We send each other things where it's like men are so dumb. Only they could come up with this. Yeah.

Well, there's the like the filling of the cup thing. Yeah. We should do that. That sounds fun. Yeah. The one. Yeah. The cup.

So basically the game is you fill a cup. until it's like an inch left or whatever in the cup. And then you have to like turn it on a real quick. The one I want to do is the last person who spills it over. The water bottle to the ceiling fan and we all have blindfolds on. That one Craig is out on. I love that one. I keep trying to get us to do it.

I want to do it. It's really funny. These guys do it like buckets of like paint, like balloon. Oh, I'm not doing that shit. Dude, my friends and I, we rented out a house like on the beach one weekend and we go. And the first thing we do when you get there, my buddy brought like an electrolyte powder thing. It was shaped like a hockey puck, basically. And he just sets it down on the counter and slides it across the counter.

And we were like, oh, I bet you can't get that to hang over the edge of the counter. We did that the entire weekend. All the men in the room were like, wait a minute. I hear something. Yes. We call it the electrolyte slide. We play it all the time. Electrolites slides.

Remember I sent you guys the guys like doing one bounce across the kitchen counter? A ping pong table. Yeah. Or a counter. Well, it was like whatever. It can be like a kitchen island. One and two. One and two, then three bounces, then four bounces.

And they're like fucking locked in. By the time you get to seven, this is the greatest moment. When the energy grid shuts everything down, we'll be fine. We'll die, but like, it'll be fun. Someone emailed us in, and they told the story of, like, they just like to go to a cabin and they just drink on the porch. And they just, like, put some of the cans on the road. And they put one can on a road. And then every time a car drives by, they're just like, like, hits the can.

They're like, can. And they sit there for like 10 hours. And there's like, an hour. Like, can. Legitimately, that sounds fun. Send us emails of like the dumb shit that you turned into a beloved game in your friend group.

Yes. Email us those games. It's awesome. I remember when you said that you said, It's basically fishing. You could put women in a house. Totally. I remember when you play that game,

the electrolyte slide for the first time, you were like, women could be in this house for 10,000 years and that would never come. They would never do it. And that's literally because they're smarter than I'm at that. Right. Exactly. Because it is dumb. Yeah.

like the ocean was over there and we were like no I told you I was like at the bachelor party in Denver and the bay perfect weather it was like 74 degrees and sunny every day except for the one day we're going to skydive at rain but like it was sunny day

and the basement this windowless concrete basement had a shuffleboard table and on this beautiful day in Denver we just got a 30 rack of beers and just played shuffleboard for five hours and Jackie texts me at one point what are you doing

and I like stare at the phone and I'm like, oh, and I look right at the beach. Of course. Yeah, I'm like 10 guys in a fucking basement on the perfect weather day. I'm like, uh, we're in a strip club. Yeah. That actually, I felt like more. Yeah, that sounds right.

Yeah. Okay. So the last thing here before we get out of here, Carl, so we've obviously talked a lot about Oreos in the past, the little freaks. Yeah, a little freaks. Oh, yeah. So Carlos is, what are these little freaks up to? Carlos is, we've never had an Oreo sponsor, have we?

No, not yet. Come on Oreo. Yeah. I know they said no. free ads, but we're in fact going to do a free ad right now. Oreo, Carlos brought his favorite flavor of Oreo. Oreo white fudge covered.

Wow. I've never had one of these. It's like a hat on a hat. Carlos actually brought this for us today. And I thought he just brought him in for himself. Wow. I was like, that is so sweet. It was really nice.

Lovely. I love Oreos. So, white fudge? Yeah, I think they're like, I try to get these last year. Sometimes when you take it out of the bag, you're like, wait, it's like seeing it naked. It looks better into packaging.

You know what I mean? I know exactly. You ever seen one on its own? All right, so I'm going to try this. White fudge covered little freaks Oreos. I can't, I think there's no scenario in which this is bad. Yeah. Unless you're allergic.

Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. No, these are vegan. Well, the regular Oreos. Oh, yeah, that's right. So like I was eating these because it's like the only thing that was, I don't know what the stipulations were. Maybe the fudge is not vegan.

Yeah, it's obviously fucking great. It's basically just like if they took an Oreo and just surrounded it with filling as well. Instead of dipping Oreo and milk, they dip them like liquid white chocolate. The only thing I have, the only problem I have with this because it is delicious is you can't do like the certain ways that you would eat an Oreo where you like maybe twist it off or whatever, which is fine. Here's a real challenge. The only, this is so good. Oreo might be my favorite flavor on the planet. If an Oreo box is in my house, it'll be gone.

in like 24 hours. So it's great. I give this like honestly like an 8.8. Like it's pretty great. I will say Oreo one. Sponsorice, please. Here's my one thing. The Oreo,

whatever person came up with the resellable Oreo package was like, that was a pioneer. Like the idea that you could open it and reseal it. That was amazing. My only issue with these is look what we have now. I know.

Which is now we have like this like carton. It looks like. So you're factoring that into the score. No, it's actually good because then you have to eat it. The score is just about the taste. You feel an urgency to eat it. Yeah, that's a huge problem.

No, it's good for them. They're making money. It's like printing money. Oh, white fudge. Is that how I, no, that's how just. Here's the thing. The goal is to sell as many as possible. That's a good point.

Yeah. I like that here. It says enlarged to show detail. Legal disclaimer. The lawyers got together. Should I've taken a lactate for this? Sugar. I'm not going to read the ingredients.

We won't get sponsored. White fudge covered. Oh, it does contain milk. I have another lactate. That one little guy will screw you up like that? No. We don't want to know. Don't ask questions you won't know.

Contains milk, wheat, and soy. See, lactate, you haven't sponsored me. So look at this. I have the store brand lactate because you need sponsor me. Damn, that was good. On the Oreo scale, that's up there. Yeah, there we go. I like 8.8, I'm right there.

That's good. Thanks, Carlos. Yeah, thank you, Carlos. That was really nice. Extremely nice of you. Thank you, Carlos. That just brought an orange. Thank you, Carlos.

He brought us treats. Thank you for listening. We're going to power hour this week. If the Mariners win, we're going to have a very glorious opening to the show. The Mariners lose. We'll see if we have actually wrangled D.K. to talk about it.

If not going home. You actually might just go to the back and come back. Nice. I'm not kidding. I don't know if we'll get them if they lose. So thank you, D.K. in advance for contributing to the show on Wednesday. Thank you to Craig.

Thank you Carlos for bringing us stories. That was wild. Thank you, awesome. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, C.T. Thank you everyone here for making the show. Thank you everyone in LA in Corwick is really fun and we have multiple shows left here.

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I love that. Mainly so I can steal them for my own stupid friend weekends. Rankings for Thursday football, fantasy football. com. We have rankings there. We update them Sunday mornings as well. And of course. Thank you, Lord.

Lord. Thank you. Tawain. Man, dude. Bah, bah, what? You're not doing it?

Rob, well, I'd start it. Let's go, girl. Rob, Horvilla had the funniest, 60 songs to explain

the 90s, great podcast here at the ringer, and he starts out with how Shania is, among other things, the goat of, like, punctuation and grammar and song titles. Okay. Exclamation points,

parentheses, like, she's got it all, like, she can do everything. Man, I feel like a woman is one of the most underrated,

like, bar dance songs. All time. Yeah. It gets the, entire crowd going. It's good for everyone. I know the one second song challenge is like a curse thing for us now because

DK's like really mad at how they behaved. Oh, we should do that tomorrow in person. It's way easier to do it in person. Yeah, if the matter is loose, it'll cheer you up. We'll do that. I'll be the judge. You two sitting right here. I get the laptop up.

Ooh, we're doing that. Yeah, we should do it. So my point being, winner gets a fudge Oreo. One of the things I've been interested in is what is the ultimate one second song. Like the song that the most people could identify in one second. And I kind of think the Buh,

like I think that might It would just be Bambh. It's been That one's big. I know, but that's also a song where some people know it

but can't necessarily It might be a little bit Mnish of a song. I feel like a woman. She's got a comma and an exclamation point No, there's no comma. Oh no?

Man exclamation. I feel like a woman exclamation. That's wild. Yeah. That's like nothing I've ever seen. Should I is? Man shirt, short skirt. Uh-oh.

Oh yeah. Totally crazy. Man, that's good. Shania never lost it. Imagine trying to come up with that hook. What is that, what, even what? You remember that other song? That don't impress me.

Oh, yeah, yeah. So you're Brad Pitt. So you're Tom Cruise. So you're a rocket scientist. Yeah. You're Brad Pitt. That don't impress me. Yeah, that's pretty good.

Good times. She's like talking about keeping me warm through the long, cold nights or something like that. But that won't keep me warm in the middle of the night. Yeah. It's good stuff. So you, what is it? So you own a car. It starts really, like,

So you're Brad Pitt. I'm like, that's escalating. Jesus Christ, if you're Brad Pitt, I think it does impress you. I was not good enough for her. I was super impressed by Brad Pitt. Yeah. Me too. How can you not be?

That jaw line? Come on. Do you think we could ever get Shinae on the show? No shot now. No. I was thinking that as well. I was hoping to say something. No, no fucking way.

Rocket scientist is the first one. I feel like she starts, she starts tired. Wait, wait, wait. When does the car to Brad Pitt? The order is crazy. Are you sure about that? Carwin's got to be first. No, it's rocket science.

And it's like, you own a car. And then it's like, so you're Brad Pitt. Rocket scientist to car to Brad Pitt. Okay, so you got a car is like in the like second to last one. They kind of ran out of ideas. She's like, hold on, I'm lowering the bar. Yeah. So you don't, you don't have to take the bus?

That doesn't impress me. this is weird okay so you got a car I didn't actually remember that was a lot I have a car she probably meant like a good car but she could have been clearer it doesn't matter how good the car is

so what do you think you're Elvis or something because she has a car no that's in the lot's in the song oh my god I was in like you think you're Elvis or something wait I was at the country music Hall of Fame in Nashville earlier this year and I saw like Elvis's car

and it's fucking crazy yeah he was amazing Why? It was just like, it was just this like decked out. It was like a Rolls-Royce and it was unbelievable. Like I, that guy, I was living. He was living. But the car is unbelievable.

Until his last day, he was living. I actually don't know how many cars in America could be cooler than else's car. I was like, that specific car might be one of the craziest cars you could own. Did Joe Burrow canceled the Batmobile order, which is too bad? He did? Yeah, because, well, ever since, because he had the break in his house. They made fun of him too or what? Well, that too.

I think the, I think he didn't like the attention because when, you know, his house got broken into. He started wearing a cup for the year because I was so nervous about it. I'm so worried about Miles Garrett. But I guess the Domokingsu, really. But the, because he, you know, a house cup broken into, and then it turned out that his assistant was actually just this model who's dating and they didn't want to be public. And then the 911 call was leaked. He was like, damn, 911 calls can link. That's kind of fucked.

And so he was like, I guess a Batmobile will draw more attention to me. So he did not get it. How much was it? Was it reported? I don't know. But how much would you pay for a Batmobile? If I have Joe Burroughs money and I really... We were saying, what should the winner of Ringer 107 bet get?

Bill has to buy the Batmobile. If I had Joe Burroughs money and I really wanted the Batmobile, I would probably spend $2 million on it. I respect, I'm like, yeah, if you have $275 million, like, what the fuck else do you do? Okay. I would, but I wouldn't want a Batmobile. Why not?

You have to put yourself in the headspace that you really want it. Yeah, you really want it. I would, yeah. I'm thinking about that, yeah, okay. Here's what? Zero. 500K. The most.

I mean, he's got $300 million. Yeah. Do you think, do you think Bill would get us a Batmobile? For the winner. The winner of the contest. Not if he gets last. Yeah. No, he needs to like get third or something.

Bill might win this week, though. If he gets last, we let him out of the punishment if he gets the winner at Batmobile. Bill has JSN tonight. He needs a big JSCs. All right. Oh, yeah, the Cucks are playing. That's right. Big night for you.

Big night for Seattle. Can't look. Can't watch. All right. We're going to go. I'm scared. Already did. Thank you, Lauren.

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