The Ringer NFL Show - Week 9 Matchups, Must-Starts, and Must-Benches

Episode Date: November 4, 2022

We kick off our NFL Week 9 preview by discussing why the Colts and Jets give us the Sunday scaries, the games that offer secret shootout potential, the players we need to retire in fantasy, what to do with Isaiah Likely this week, crunch time for the Packers offense, and more. Check out our Week 9 Fantasy Football Rankings for this week's positional rankings and more! Email us! [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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football, but we'll be going through all the vibes entering Sunday. Starting with the Sunday scaries, I don't know where else is started than just my Sunday scary. Just all the bye weeks. Probably easily the worst lineups I've had all year. I don't even think

it's worse. There was like a biopocalypse a couple years ago. What's like one level below the apocalypse? Pandemic? Post-bidemic. I had a league where I had debated having to start Samajia P. Ryan, like the backup running back for the Bengals.

I was just talking to you guys before we were on, asking if I should add Zay Jones or Matt Collins. But to start, this is the worst, like, every week, you know, people are asking us questions. One, our personal lives, I assume you guys get text to from friends. And then also just people are like, who to start, who's it? The saddest questions I've ever gotten this week. Is it the same for you guys?

Yeah, there's multiple lineups where I'm starting like three tight ends. Like, it's seriously bad out there right now. Let me ask you guys, do you guys give advice? to people who are in a league with yourself? It depends on the league. If it's like a competitive one, no, but I have a couple leagues where I'm just like trying to get my friends

into fantasy football who like haven't played it before and in those I just help everybody. And honestly, those teams are doing worse than the people who don't ask me. I think people ask me earnestly what they think.

I have a very hard time lying. You guys know me. I can't lie like for the life of me. I'm terrible liar. People can see through it immediately. So if I tried to lie to anybody about it, they'd know right away. So I just have given up.

I'm like Ricky Bobby and Tal Dagan Nights and I'm on the phone with Dale and he's like, hey man, how do you use the stereo? It's like my friends asking me like, hey, who should I start? And I'm like, oh, you should start. Wait, why am I talking to you, man? You were in my life, man. We're in the same league.

You just beat me last week. Yeah. But I don't actually, I feel like a lot of people don't ask me anything in the leagues that work in together. Like me, they asked me like trade advice and things like that, like in Dynasty, but that's about it. By the end of the phone call, Like, you should start Zach Hertz.

He's like, all right, thanks, man. I'm just like, why don't even want to play Zachertz? And another 10 at the same time. I talked to you tomorrow. I like to party. Why am I even talking to you, man? Oh, my God. All right.

So that just generally, if you have like a horrible lineup this week, I get it. If you even thought about Rex Burke hit this week, I will, I feel you. Okay, other Sunday scaries, D.K., beyond just her, shrocious lineups. Yeah, so I'm just looking at some of the matchups for this weekend. And Jets skill position players against the bills this weekend. That scares me. It scares me a little bit. The last time and the only time, I believe, that Zach Wilson has played the Bills.

He went seven for 20 with 87 yards and a touchdown. 40 of those 87 yards came on one play and the touchdown. It was a 40-yard touchdown. The rest of the game. So if you take away one play? The rest of the game, 47 yards on 19 attempts. Of course, this was last year. This is different.

He's got a little more talent this year. But the fact of the matter is, like, this bill's defense is a buzzsaw. They got eight sacks on them last year. I'm sure they're going to get a ton of pressure on him this year. Jets running backs, too, last year combined for 24 yards in that game. I recognize that the Jets are better this year than they were last year, but I'm still very worried about this game. What do you guys think?

I mean, I think that it's telling that this line is Bill's giving 11 and a half. It's not even the third biggest line of the week. Like, it's not just the six buys that are a problem this week. Like, the fact that there's three games slated to be blowouts, and it's like what you just said, it's like, how can you, I mean, if it weren't for like six teams being on box, how do you play these people? Right.

I'm more so like Garrett Wilson, worried about that. Michael Carter, worried about that. Obviously, I'm not playing Elijah Moore because he's in the doghouse. Not playing Denzo Mims unless I absolutely have to. Well, the Jets don't even play.

Corey Davis is hurt. Well, yeah, D.K., you were like, oh, well, at least this year, the Jets have a little bit more talent. I'm not sure they do. Breeze Hall's hurt. They don't play Elijah Moore. James Robinson hasn't done anything,

he wasn't doing anything Jacksonville and then barely played last week and it's like, all right, cool, let's just fire up James Robinson against the bills. The only saving grace is that Zach Wilson hates throwing the ball away, so you at least know he's going to put it in the flat. Right. It's too boring to throw it away.

There's a world where the bill's defense could outscore all the jet skill players combined, isn't there? It's like on the table. Oh, my gosh. Maybe this is the Kistanza? I don't know. Maybe this is the week that the Jets just go off. That'd be hilarious.

Start Denzel Mims? I think that the buys made me so loopy that I was like, well, man, that means the backup running backs will be playing earlier so maybe I can play James Cook in, you know what I mean? Like that's where I was at. That's like honestly.

That's actually very true. That's the way that the bills have operated this year is if it's a close game like Devin Singletary plays the entire game, if it's a blowout, which has been pretty common, then they mix in the other guys. Obviously, they trade it for Naim Heimes, which screws everything up, though. So now we don't actually know if we can start James Cook.

No, but I appreciate Zach Wilson. I feel like he's going to put the laugh in slaughter this week. So good for him. Okay. I've never heard that. That's a laughing, slaughter. Well, that's the, that was the dark night when he drives by with the truck. Oh, does he say that?

And there's a truck, no, it's just the truck that says like, it's like a toy truck or something. It sounds like laughter. And then he just spray paints in red the slaughter around the laugh. Oh, that's good. All right. Craig, your son is scary. Colts. Everything going on with the Coles. Ellinger, which I just realized now, has linger in it.

El linger. Linger. Linger. Sam, El linger. They're playing the Pats in New England. And all that is bad. I want nothing to do with anyone on the Colts. Jonathan Taylor has a bulky ankle that he might play.

He injured it on the long run in the first quarter of last week. If he plays, that's scary. Man, even Michael Pittman, I think, I mean, that's pretty much going to be the only player. If Jonathan Taylor doesn't play, that's the only player that Belichick's going to have to focus on. And the Colts now, without Matt Ryan, they're not throwing the ball. Last week, they threw it 23 times. Second lowest pass rate in the league. And before that, all they were doing was gunning it was Matt Ryan.

So the volume's no longer there. The game total is 39 and a half. The Colts implied points is 16 and a half. The Patsy's been great. They're top five in picks and sacks. league low completion rate 57%. It all looks so bad for the Colts right now. If you have a wide receiver who's hot right now

and you're debating starting them over Michael Thomas, I mean Michael Pittman, who's been disappointing, like, I'd think about it. A Hansel, was so hot right now? Yeah, I don't know who that is. Who's like a really hot receiver right now? Devin DuVernay, man. So hot Renée.

Him over Michael Pittman. I don't know. The Colts, they could score. four seven points this week. Pitman's been brutal. And honestly, Loki, Jonathan Taylor, maybe the worst pick and fantasy this year.

He's really high up there. In terms of like return on value, yes. So far. Yeah. So far. Yeah. I mean, if you take like since week,

like the first two weeks he was fine. And since then, I don't, I'm not sure if he's like a top 40 running back. Yeah. So that's not good. If you're counting the guys who are actually on the field,

like obviously, Giovante Williams pick is pretty bad. Naji Harris pretty bad, but he's right up there. Let me get the exact number because I'm fascinated by this. Sam Elliott. You took Jonathan Taylor because he was quote-unquote the safe pick. And then since week three, the quote-unquote safe number three pick is the 48th highest scoring running back in fantasy and half people are scoring behind Rashad White.

Brutal. That's not good. Anyway, probably unanswerable questions for the week, D.K. Yeah. So what the hell are we supposed to do? with all these recently traded players is my question. I don't, you know, T.J. Hawkinson, Chase Claypool.

Obviously, Cadarious Tony, probably not going to be playing Kaderie's Tony. Unless you're Craig. God, I want to. So bad. The Cajonis it takes to play Cadarius Tony. Yeah, but can you imagine a better feeling, a better payoff than watching him come in

and just immediately catch like a 35-yard touchdown from the homes? Yeah, that would be hilarious. Can you imagine feeling stupider than playing him and him getting a zero and you losing? If your team already sucks and you're like, Like one in seven do it. But more particularly, T.J. Hawkinson, I think, is a tough one. Like, obviously, there's very few tight ends that we trust in the NFL right now.

T.J. Hockinson has not been a high upside guy, but he's at least been, you know, somewhat reliable and to be part of the game plan here and there. I don't know if he's going to get very many snaps this week. I don't know if he's going to be part of the game plan. I don't know if he's even going to play. Like, I don't know what to do with this guy. There's just so many other tight ends that are, we know. we're going to get like at least full snap counts like I'm actually considering starting over

huckinson right now what do we do with him and of course chase claypool again does he learn enough for the playbook and get enough you know chemistry or connection with just and fields in like a few days to actually be in your starting a lineup probably not i feel like the answer's no you're not safe answer certainly no because you're not you wouldn't start him if he's in the steelers would you start chase playpool this week or matt collins oh god matt collins because he he's above hunter Renfro. He plays the majority of the snaps on the team other than Devante Adams. It has to be that. And he didn't like meet his quarterback on Tuesday.

Exactly. Right. Okay. So we answered the Chase Claypool one. What do you guys do with? I don't think you can play Hawkinson either. Yeah. Hockens. That's real. I don't know if you can, I don't think you can play any of these guys who got trained. I think it's like again, it's just like how stupid will you feel if they play like 20 snaps to get two catches for like eight yards? Does it still dumb? Doesn't it feel like Andy Reed is going to flex on everybody and just

like sneak Cadarius in? in the red zone and just get him an easy touchdown. I just, that's so going to happen. Craig, the best part is, he's not even on the injury report this week. No. You know, I'm going to, I'm going to. He's not even on the injury.

He's fully healthy. He's like sprinting to practice. He's not even just a full participant with like whatever. He's just not even on it. Oh my God. Reed said that he'll try and work him in the game. I don't know. I kind of want to start Cadarius, Tony.

I'm so angry. Dude, if someone starts Gadarius, Tony, send us the receipts. I want to see this. I've never been angrier about a player leaving one of my teams that I'm there, Stoney. I'm so just firmly in the anger stage. Not over this at all.

All right. Next category here, Mario Kart rainbow strip. You know, playing Mario Kart, and you get the little rainbow boost, you go over the edge and you shoot, and it just like speed boost. Turbo.

Turbo. DK. Yeah. What team is the Mario Kart Rainbow Boost this week? I'm on Ross St. Brown is. getting the trade deadline Mario Kart Rainbow St. St. Brown. The trade deadline helped Amon Ross St. Brown. There's a big joke.

Ian Hardens is at the top of it, basically in front of this joke. It's everything that happens in the NFL is good for Amon Rosset Brown. In this case, trading away T.J. Hawkinson is great for Almond Ross St. Brown. He's just going to get so many more targets in every game, I think, especially considering DeAndre Swett apparently is not healthy, at least not fully healthy. He's not back completely. I think

the Lions are going to, if he even plays this week, they're going to kind of keep him on a pitch count. I think Al-N-Rah, like the days of 30, 40, 50-per-t target rate, like he saw last year down the stretch where Hawkinson and Swift were out, I think we could see that again this week, especially against, you know, the Packers, who I actually don't, you know, I don't have any strong opinion on if like the Packers are a good lineup.

I just think the trade deadline is giving on Monraa St. Brown an extra boost this week. I think that even just in this game, on the other side of the ball, the other market rainbow strip is like, the Packers just playing the Lions, this feels like the offense that can't do anything versus the defense that can't stop anything. It's like the force that can't move

versus the object that's like very easily moved. Like, but obviously, I feel like the modern Packers are like literally defined by not putting skill players or in Aaron Rogers. And this is like, they're taking it almost as far as you can go at this point. Because Alan Azard will see if he plays, but it's just Romeo Dobbs and people this week.

And it's, I mean, if they can't get this offense going against Detroit, do you guys know how bad the Lions defense has been this year? They're like, they're past, they've given up the most points. They've given up the most yards per play. Their past defense is last in coverage grade on pro football focus. They've given up like the highest opposer passer rating, everything in that. But their run defense is like maybe worse. They've given up the second most rushing touchdowns.

Even though they already had their buy, there's still more than 30 teams. And they're also allowed their top five in yards per carry allowed. Like, usually when we're talking about a defense, it's like either they're run-die or they're past these bad. The Lions might be the best matchup for both of those things. And so if the AJ Dylan can't get going this week against Green Bay, if like none of these Packers receivers look good against Detroit, if Rogers doesn't look good, I can't imagine playing these people again.

Other than like Romeo Dobbs, I can't imagine playing Rogers or Dylan again this season. I very much appreciate that the lions have maintained and been consistent in being the rainbow strip this year. The Seahawks, they're not holding up their part of the bargain. Their defense is like good now. I actually saw this in the last month. The Seahawks have the second ranked defense in DVOA. So the Seahawks are off the rainbow strip. Like that's not happening anymore.

But the lions have stayed consistent. They've stayed terrible, reliable for us. That's great. I appreciate that. Thank you, Detroit. That's all I'm going to say. There's 110 cornerbacks that PFF's grade, like, qualifying, and their starting cornerback on the left side is literally last, like dead last.

Jeez. The only guy I would play is, I would play Lazard. If he's on the field, Lazzard has actually been magnetic in the end zone. I think he has, like, every game he's played this year, he either has, like, a touchdown or 100 yards. So he's the only guy who Roger still trust that I like, and I do like the ops. But if Lazzar plays, I would play him. Well, no, with this week, you play these guys. You play Aaron Jones.

you play, I'm even playing A.J. Dill in a league this week because, again, I have to. Like picking up Rex Pockech. You have to. But again, the Lion's D. Can't guard any one. I guess I look at it more like if age, if they can't, if the, not even just for fantasy. Like if the Packers offense can't move the ball and look good with all the chaos they've had.

I don't think that if they don't do it this week, I kind of think they're going to miss the playoffs straight up if they lose this week. I want to bring up Romeo Dobbs actually since, since we're talking about this. He's my debutante guy this week. Who? Which means he's going to... Wait, what does that mean? He's going to what? He's going to mature, as you say.

Coming out, part of it. He's going to mature. This is going to be his introduction into high society. So I understand that he's already flashed a couple of times. Like, this maybe isn't the most technically sound debutante. Because he's already caught, he caught like a really cool touchdown last week and everything. But I think he has a chance to really have an explosion week this week. Lazzard is limited. He might not play.

He's been limited in practice. Christian Watson has been out at practice. He's still going through concussion protocol. And then Sammy Watkins stinks. Mark Rogers stinks. I don't really expect them to do a whole lot. The lions are given up as high fits laid out, the lions are given up the fifth most points to opposing receivers.

And Rogers, the vibes are good right now with Aaron Rogers, for whatever reason. I think he's just said in interviews this week, like they've really liked that they've done in practice, whatever. The vibes are good. Second half, rookie workouts are a thing. You can't just say the vibes are good. That doesn't just mean the vibes are good.

If the Brooklyn Nets say the vibes are good, you're just like, I guess the vibes are good now. Wait, are you insinuating that Aaron Rogers would lie? The vibes are good when they're preparing for the lions. Of course, they weren't good last week,

though. This is the get right game for this offense. I'm building a theoretical argument. I actually, you know, I don't know if I just couldn't let you be like, yeah, the vibes are good.

Every week Aaron Rogers is all, but he's always like, let's, after these games, they keep losing. And he's like, I want to like make sure our energy and what we put out.

out there is like in check, which I actually think every week is code for, please don't anonymously leak shit to the media. Please don't start blaming people in like anonymous reports. So yeah, vibes are great. I don't know. I just, I'm excited about seeing what Dobbs does this week. Dobbs passes the eye test. He's good.

Agreed. A couple sweet catches last week in the Bills game. I think that's a good coming out party, D.K. Back to Moro Kart rainbow strip for Hot Second D.K. Craig, do you have a Mario Kart rainbow strip for this week? Yeah, I got like a secret rainbow strip. You know how like in every Mario Kart level there's always like a secret path

that you have to like look up online to find but when you do that you like save two minutes on your lap. Oh yeah. Chargers Falcons. It's like seven seconds. Whatever. Have you played Mario Kart?

There's no... It changed maybe saves two minutes off your time if you do it every lap. You have to do three laps to complete the race. Whatever. Secret shoot out. tremendous amount of time. Chargers Falcons

which kind of like you kind of cringe when you first you're like, ooh, okay. But total of this game is almost 50, 49 and a half for Chargers Falcons, who you wouldn't think it, but both these defenses are terrible. The Chargers defense sucks. They're giving up the fourth most yards for playing the league. And the Falcons defense also quietly sucks, giving up the second most points per game, second most yards to play. They're the only team to give up 300 yard passing yards a game, the Falcons. And these Chargers, they're always in shootouts. And even though there's no

Mike Williams and God knows what's going on with Keenan Allen's hamstring, I kind of think that this game could be an opportunity for your Josh Palmer's, Drake London to get right again, because the Falcons have shown that when they need to, they'll throw. Like that Panthers game last week, they threw the ball when they needed to, and they'll actually go no huddle and pick up the pace.

And this could be that week. I think I've heard this on the athletic show with Nate Tyson, Robert Mays, but can you, with AJ Terrell out, can you name a starter on the Falcons defense? Oh my God. Like, Brady Jarrett's not.

Well, they just traded for Rashad Fetton. Grady Jarrett is the one that they mentioned is like nationally recognized. He's like the square in the bingo card. He's like the middle three. Yeah. They traded for the chiefs guy, Rashad Fenton, didn't they? There you go. They traded for the chiefs guy, Craig.

They have the Giants washout Lorenzo Carter, right? That's, yeah. Sure. But that's, I think that makes the point is like, yes, this is not a great defense. Well, to that point, though, this game is such a bizarre warp where it's like the Falcons cannot stop the pass. They're probably the worst pass defense in the NFL. But then, and the Chargers in theory should be

one of the throw it, but they have like no receivers left that are healthy. And then the other side of the ball, the Falcons, all they want to do is run and the Chargers philosophically are like, yeah, run out if you want. Like the Chargers are going to be 5.7 yards per carry on defense. And that's more than like the average Kyler Murray pass gains. Like, if you include sacks in yardage, running on the Chargers gains more yards than Kyler-Murray

dropping back to throw. Wow. You know what I mean? That's how bad the Chargers Runty is to the point where I feel like if the Falcons win this game, it's going to be like Waterloo for Brandon Staley. I think that the entire national like narrative on Brandon Staley is like people will turn on him if the Falcons and like the Arthur Smith

where D.K. hates and the run, run, just like plows through the Chargers and they still can't stop the run this week. I think it's kind of going to be tough. it's going to be miserable. I mean, Herbert's coming off a buy. theoretically, he should be the healthiest he's ever been. If this team can't score 25, 30 points against the Falcons, then it's over.

It's all she wrote. The NFL show on Friday was Silak and Ruiz. Stephen actually did to Silak and I, what we do all the time with the two players in a lie. Stephen just read a list of charges receivers and he just made one up. And Slok and I had no idea on the end of the segment. We just didn't know because it's like a Michael Band.

These guys, it's the slowest group in I can ever remember it, They're going to tread out. It's a disaster. But while we're talking about the Chargers, Dicke, you mentioned the debut top ball and like the coming out party. I would like to have a retirement party. I would like to have a going away party for Keenan Allen.

I don't think we're ever going to see him again. Old Yeller Award. Remember that? It is right away into the sunset. So Keenan Allen has played like 45 snaps this year, got hurt in week one, came back to week seven. We're like, okay, cool.

Like, buy week eight. Going to come out of week eight, bye, it'll be healthier. It took a couple months. It is what it is. He got, in his own words, he got worse over the buy. Oh, God. He's like, he also said he's not, so he came back, and I guess he was going to be a snap count

and like not 100% healthy, not going to play 100% of snaps. Now he's like, I'm not coming back to him 100% healthy. I don't know if we're seeing. How did it get worse? Was he practicing too hard on it? He said it was training. Yeah, he just was training and he got worse. I don't know.

Hey, caramba. Yeah, it's hard to get old, you guys. This is tough. Here's the real question. Can you just cut him? We're talking about by apocalypse. People need to have... Can you just cut Keenan...

Why not? What has to happen for you to play this guy? He just can't. You just can't. You can't cut Keenan Allen. Because even if you hold him the entire season and he's finally healthy by week 12,

that's just too valuable to have him. It's like he should be your last spot on your bench. I get that. But is he? Is he that valuable? Yes, yes. What is so valuable? This is not like 20,

Like, why is he so valid? This guy who has had to have, like, by the, he's saying he won't come back for 100% until he's 100%. He basically saying he was not 100% week seven. And he's not going to play again until he's 100%. And he's worse than he was for week seven. He's not just not playing this week. I don't know if he's going to play the next week. It's like, are you going to throw him in your lineups anytime soon?

Probably not. Yes. He's had 100 catches in like six straight seasons. He's valuable. Because he was healthy in those seasons. But it's worth waiting. I mean, listen, how often are you actually, how often are you actually?

How often are you actually using all five or six bench spots? Like, you can have one guy who's just like a speculative future play. Just hold on to Keenan Allen because it will be worth it. And like week 12 or 13, if for Sean Slater comes back, the offense is better, they're fighting for a playoff spot. Like, Keenan Allen, I think, Jesus, will be used this year on the team. Dude, I think this is a Ponzi scheme. This is not like a time share.

It's like he's going to come back. This is the only week that you can't afford to have like just him sitting on your bench. Like, if you can get through this week, there's no reason to cut him right now. You want to talk about a real Ponzi scheme? Another retirement party candidate? Michael fucking Thomas. Yeah. Oh, my God.

I tried to tell you guys, man. Michael Thomas is getting moved to IR. He's potentially going to be out for the rest of the season. He probably is. He's having toe surgery. He has a dislocated second toe. So here's my question. It's weird.

What have they been doing on that toe since week three? It's not hard to diagnose a dislocated toe. Did they pop it back in? and it didn't heal? What have they been doing on the toe? Why didn't they operate back in week three or week four? What have they been doing? If you're a doctor, can you email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com?

Oh, sure. It's very simple. It's like, it's not hard to diagnose a dislocated toe. I was like, okay. I feel like a dislocation is either, it's binary, somewhat, right? Is it located or is it dislocated? Is it in its socket? What does it even mean?

If it's in its socket, is it in the socket? It's just floating around in a bag of skin? Like, what's going on them? I just, Michael Thomas, I obviously spent a lot of money on him in multiple leagues this year because I thought he was of value. And he was not. He played well for the first two weeks. But this man has played 10, we'll have played 10 games in three years. He hasn't, he hasn't barely played in the pandemic.

He's 45 catches since the pandemic began. You know, he purports to be like Mr. Competitive, right? He's like, I love the last dance. I'm Michael, I'm Michael Jordan as a wide receiver. We have, like, do you think he's upset right now? for how competitive this man is, he's not playing football ever. Does he care?

Is he like, well, we'll lace him back up next September. Like, what is he thinking? I don't get it. Dude, the vibes around him have always been so strange for like the last three years. Like there was a report a couple, like last year at least, where he wanted to be traded. You know, there was a bunch of speculation that he was just like sitting out the rest of the year because he didn't want to like re-injure whatever.

I decided that foot injuries are the scariest injury to me now. for the raven for the radio If you get a foot injury That's like the worst thing possible You know what I'm also DK you can take a victory lap Because before the season Craig was like

What am I missing on Michael Thomas He's back and's healthy Like why is this not great? I was like I don't know But I looked at Michael Thomas As wherever we're ranking him is wrong I just have no idea

If we're like Extremely too high on him Or extremely too low on him But we'll be wrong And DK was like I wouldn't touch this guy With a 20 football because the vibes are bad.

Yeah. So congratulations. I think my whole thing was like, I just can't, like after what we've seen the last three years, and of course, I don't know what's going on with him. You mean after what we haven't seen? Right. And obviously,

I don't have any inside scoop on what happened with him this year. The only thing we can do is speculate based on the fact that he's, he did not go on IR and then he wasted a roster spot on him for like however long, six, seven weeks. So did my taste. And then now he's on IR. To me, this is exactly what I was afraid was.

have. And I told you guys, I'm like, I just don't trust a guy to, like, if he gets a little bit banged up, that he's just going to decide he doesn't want to play or whatever. That's not necessarily what happened here. That's just how it's talking about. The other thing is, according to the coach, Dennis Allen, he said the toe just didn't respond how they thought it was. Like, what's that mean. I just, to me, I said this to you. I'm like, I just don't trust this guy to like, if he gets injured, that he'll continue to play the way we thought it was. I was going to say, well, I will say, that's also what Brent Staley said with the hamster. I'm like, I will say, that's also what Brent Stey said with the hamster. I'm going to say, that's also what string for Keenan Allen, but I got to say, whatever it's like the injury didn't respond like we thought it's. I always think, that's how like D.K. talks about taking a son who's like two years old through the airport. Yeah, it didn't respond to how we hoped you. You know, had a bad outburst. We're going to take the season off and try a flight next year with Calvin.

Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, so, DK, you have 25 fantasy teams. How many do you have Michael Thomas on? One. How you do the middle? It's actually higher than I thought. Middling.

I'm in the middle. I'm like 500. You know what, of thinking I'm abandoning. And this was a common thought in fantasy the last three years. People have been on this that like no, like people aren't actually injury prone, right? You shouldn't factor in a player's prior injury

into their value this year if they are, you know, perceivably healthy right now. I don't buy that. I'm done with that. There are injury prone players. DeAndre Swift is going to get hurt every single year. Michael Thomas is going to get hurt every single year. I buy it.

I'm back in on injury prone. It exists. Except for McCaffrey. He's been, I'm actually not going to. He'll get hurt too. Trade him. He Moster.

It's going to get hurt. Coming out party for Hymoste this week? Is he like the oldest? Would he be like the oldest debutante? Yeah, it's like how Morgan Freeman, like, didn't get his first big role until he was like 38 or something like that. John Hamm getting madman. This is the John Hamm Award.

The John Hamm Award? But I am giving, yeah, the Mad Men Roll of the Century Award. Rahim Moster, I know the debutante. Like, he's had a couple of good games, but he hasn't really had like the big game. And I do think it's going to be this week. they're playing the bears. I just, it's funny,

I don't think two was good, yet I'm fascinated and infatuated with the dolphins in fantasy football. They're like the sexiest fantasy football.

Time to admit, he's good, Craig. He's not. They're good in spite of him. But the bears, so obviously Waddle and Tyreek are like the two sexiest

wide receivers in fantasy football right now, but I do think that, one of Miami's been running in a bit more. They've been a bit more balanced since Tua came back. And they're playing the bears who,

before they traded, away the league leading tackler, Roquan Smith, as well as Robert Quinn, were horrific against the run. They're giving up 156 yards a game, second worst in the league. And like I said, Miami's been running a lot more. Chase Edmonds is gone. Jeff Wilson just got there.

And with the trade deadline approaching, here's what I want to pitch to you guys. The fantasy trade deadline. The fantasy trade deadline is approaching. I have a little bait and switch plan here. So Jeff Wilson is obviously a former Niner. McDaniel knows him, as is Moister.

Do we think that Right, Jeff Wilson's now on Miami We think that if Rahim Moster has a great game this week Because Jeff Wilson's not quite acclimated yet You should ship Rahim Mostert sell high Because one, he's 31 in super injury prone But two, do we think that this offense becomes a bit more of a running back by committee

Now that McDaniel has two guys Who kind of are built for that run system? Yeah, I think... Yes, yes. Yes, I don't know if I would trade away Rahim Mostert necessarily because, like, at this time of the year, the reality is no one wants to give up running backs

and, like, once you give them up, it's like... But like, like, if you're... I think that Jeff Wilson is an excellent by low. I think you're right about that because the person is Jeff Wilson is probably thinking about even cutting him. So you could probably get him for anything above, like a waiver wire player.

I definitely endorse training for Jeff Wilson. I just think anything happens for you most or Jeff Wilson's incredible. I think this week will be the most... Like, Rahim Moster this week will have the most secure role he'll have for the rest of the season. I completely agree. I think Jeff Wilson is like a potential league winning kind of guy because, to your point, injury prone, it's back. Yeah.

Love Rheemoster. How old is he? He's 31. I think he's 45. Injury prone. It's back. It is one unquote. He's 30.

But I think Jeff Wilson is like, we talk about all these handcuffs. Jeff Wilson is now just like what Alex Madison used to be. Just potential. this does feel like the week that most of it just rips off like an 85-yard touchdown doesn't it? Yeah. I think that's so high.

It's a really good call. All right, DK. Dynasty Brain Time. What? This is Dynasty Brain Time. I'm going to piss hyphets off. I know it already. My Cambuchia girl player of the week.

Player you keep changing your mind on. You're like, well, I'm like, basically like I'm trying to talk myself into this. Terrace Marshall Jr. of the Panthers. And look, I know that this is like sort of me being a draft nerd, holding on to my draft takes because I liked him when he's

going out of the draft. But I am intrigued. Most people don't know who this is to be clear. He was on LSU with Joe Burrow, right? Yeah, and then he played after, he like stayed an extra year after Jamar Chase left. So he was on a team with Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson.

And then he was sort of a holdover. And he had like a lot of stats, even with those two guys before he got hurt, I think, that year. And then after that, he put up big numbers. He just hasn't really like emerged in this offense yet. He was the second round pick for the Panthers has basically done nothing to this point until the last two weeks. However, after Matt Rule got fired, the new coach, Steve Wilkes decided to play his young players.

He also traded away Robbie Anderson, so that paved a path for Terrace Marshall to play. And honestly, he's looked pretty good. I haven't watched the All-22 necessarily or looked really, really closely at the Panthers' offense, but to me, he's flashed. Every time I look up, he's catching a pass down the field, making a big play. His snap rate has gone up. So the last three weeks is snap rate, 45, 86, 92. So he's up there almost playing every snap.

His routes, same deal, gone up every week. Targets, one, three, nine. And then obviously his yards have gone up. And his PFF grade has even got up. So he's playing better. It's getting more snaps. He's getting more looks. He had three end zone targets last week.

So I think he's like on the verge of catching a touchdown or whatever. Like he's going to be a bigger part of this offense going forward. So, I don't know. And plus, look, we love Phil Walker on this podcast. We're a Phil Walker podcast, I would say. Would you agree, Craig? Especially you. I think if you check the art on the feed, it says presented by Phil Walker.

PJ Walker. Now you said, Phil Walker sounds like a Johnny Walker spinoff or something. I like it. It's kind of just like it's a smooth name, Phil Walker. Everybody's got a celebrity alcohol now, so maybe he'll get on that. No, but to your point, T.K., I think, so here's thing, Terris Marshall did absolutely nothing as a rookie. and so it's just so easy to forget about him.

Who cares he did nothing as rookie? The Panthers are dumpster fire. Matt Ruhl was just trying to save his job, basically, the last couple years. Derrisal's 22? He was 22,000. He was drafted very young, yeah. He was, like, he did nothing.

He's three years younger than V-Lis Jones Jr. He couldn't legally buy a drink until, like, last summer. So, like, the fact that he didn't do well anything, he's, Terris Marshall has more catches and yards in his last like three starts that he did his entire rookie year. So I like, look,

I, yes, this is probably a dynasty brain thing from you. I'm not going to shame. I'm not going to shame you on this bypocalypse where it's like we're talking about Mac Collins and whether to play like, like yeah, it's like any receiver you can want to throw and go for it. Basically,

he's having the best games of his young career and it's like, yeah, he's a talented dude that it's super easy to forget about high upside guys that languish in cluster fuck teams. Sorry to curse, but it's like Panthers for last couple of years, Washington, like, you know,

when those guys start doing things, you might as well bet on the very talented people. Yeah. And that actually reminds me, because I said this just now. We had an emailer from, I believe they went to Tennessee or somehow connected to Tennessee.

The college of the state. The college. Okay. We've been pronouncing V-Lis Jones Jr.' name incorrectly. It's Vailas. Vailas Jones Jr., according to, well,

Pro Football Network, according to him probably. According to Valus Jones Jr. No, it's Pro Football Network. The man himself. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, I googled it and confirmed it. So Vailas Jones, Jr., I've been saying this

incorrectly the entire time. Sorry. What was the connection between Terrace Marshall and Valus Jones? I just said he's three years younger than Veilis Jones, Jr., even though it came out of year earlier. Anyway, yeah, I'm excited to see what Terris Marshall does. And it's not Terrence Marshall, it's Terrace Marshall. Just FYI.

That's it. Sounded like a note to self. All right, Craig, play your like wishy-washy on. Cabocha player. Yeah. Even if Mark Andrews plays, should you still start Isaiah likely? Yes. I've kind of arrived here.

I've arrived here, yes, because, obviously, if your options are bad. Like, I'm at the range where it's like, if you lost out on Evan Engram for waivers and Hayden Hearst is rostered and you're looking at like Noah Fant. Yeah. I'm going Isaiah Likley either way because, one, if Mark Andrews doesn't play, Isaiah Lachley is probably a top five time of this week. If Mark Andrews does play and gets a full workload, all right, that sucks. But there's the entire middle ground of like, well, if Mark Andrews is limited, either snap count or he's just not 100. or they're like, wow, Isaiah likely

it was great last week. We're getting him the ball too. I, he is, Isaiah likely with the ball in his hands is better than probably every tight end in the NFL, except like, I'll be generous and say like nine, minimum.

So I don't know. I mean, I think you can play Isaiah likely. Obviously, it's boombust, but like every tight end's got the bust and boom bust. You might as well play the guy with the most boom. And don't get scared off. It's tough because the projection tag,

4.3 points. And when you see that, you just like panic mode visually, you can't get over that. And if Mark Andrews is active and suits up, like that projection is going to stay like that. It's Monday night,

so you kind of are going to have to pick whether you want to do it or not before the games on Sunday. But I don't know, man. I kind of like it. Like this dude was the tight end two last week and he played two thirds of the snaps. The other factors that Rashad Bateman,

the receiver is out for the season now. Right. So the Ravens are probably going to have to play more two tight-end sets. And let's be real. Because I like least a rookie tight end. Rookie titans don't do anything historically. Like Evan Engram for the Giants, Loki,

had like one of the most highest yardage seasons for Rookie Tident ever. I don't even think it was like that much more than 600. Like they don't do anything. So the Ravens didn't come into the season counting on Isaiah likely to do anything of substance like immediately. I think that even just that one game was enough proof of concept that they can build a game plan knowing that he can contribute. And now the Bateman's hurt. They probably know that they have to. And so I kind of would be, I don't know about this week, but like I actually would be kind of surprised if Mark Andrews is a little banged up,

Rashop Baton's out for the season, and they don't play Isaiah likely more at the same time with Mark Andrews. I feel like they're going to have to. And the Ravens run by the week after. So you kind of think that you're not going to really send Mark Andrews back into the pit with a buy coming next week. So I don't know. I think you can.

I might do it. It's high up, again, it's high upside. Like Isaiah likely could literally have zero catches in this game. That would not be crazy. I just look at it as like every tight end has the risk of the one catch for nine yards. Not every tight end

could have like 90 yards after the catch. Like he, how many yards other catch he had last week? It was a lot. And like, yeah, like every time we've seen him, he's flashed really impressively.

This is such a Ravens thing too. Hyvitz, do you remember this? The Ravens actually pick a different tight end before Isaiah likely. They picked Charlie Kohler. And he was their, I think likely was their third

of three fourth round picks or something like that, fifth round pick, whatever it was. Let me check. He was their third, fourth round pick. No, their fourth round pick. That's unbelievable. No, their fifth, they had five fourth round picks. Jesus Christ.

He was their fifth fourth round pick, including after Charlie Kohler, who has been injured all year. And this is like such a Ravens thing to do to find some gem, but after they'd already picked someone else. Like, you know, obviously Domar Jackson was picked after Hayden Hurst. And they've done a lot of this over the year,

years where they've picked the same position multiple times and it's just worked out for him for whatever reason. I think they picked Mark Andrews in the same draft as Hayden Hurst. I could be wrong. Let me double check that. But yeah, I mean, this is just, it's just funny how this works out. This is the draft for you. I feel like this isn't just the Ravens. I kind of think everything that's good was an accident and people not even convince other people, convince themselves it wasn't. Like, it's the Ravens taking a tie down ahead of Lamar Jackson. I mean, again, Tom Brady, the Patriots. It's not just that every other team pass them. the Patriots passed on time rating five times.

Patrick Mahomes, 2017. Didn't the Chiefs want Paxton Lynch in 2016 the year earlier? And we're like offset. They didn't get Paxton Lynch. Like the Seahawks brought Russell. Obviously, when he was on the Seahawks, it was really good. They brought Russell Wilson. They signed Matt Flynn to a deal like that year.

Like everything that's good. But I just name good players in the NFL. And I feel like that team actually was trying to get someone else to that job. And just fell into it. Like in addition, they didn't pick Russell Wilson until the third round. You know, I mean, obviously, they took a calculated risk and thought that he would last that long based on how Tal he was or whatever. But, yeah, I mean, they picked Bruce Irvin and Bobby Wagner

before they picked Russell Wilson. And I actually, I did confirm the Ravens picked Hayden Hurst in the first round of the 2018 draft, and then Mark Andrews in the third round of the 2018 draft. It was after picking Lamar Jackson, too. So, yeah, I mean, it's just, this is just funny, too. I think it's a funny little factoid. The Ravens, for whatever reason, tend to hit on the second player at a position for, you know, God knows why.

I feel like this is, it's like, I don't know, fantasy football sometimes the same thing where it's like, if draft pick trading was more of a thing, like if you had your draft order a month out and you could like trade your picks, it's like,

what would you give up your first three picks for, first, second, third? Would you rather just have like 12 picks to throw? Like, would you want the fourth round picks? Yeah. With the five fourth rounders, whatever. I love the way that the Ravens just accumulated. They had like 10 middle round picks this year.

It's like crazy. And they got a lot of players that I liked, so we'll see. Speaking of not knowing anything, my Costanza player of the week. It's actually just Costanza play of the week. I have no idea why the Seahawks are underdogs this week. This is befuddling. The Cardinals are giving the Seahawks two points or two and a half, depending where you're like. The Cardinals are giving the Seahawks two and a five points.

The Seahawks are underdogs. three weeks ago, the Seahawks beat the Cardinals 19 to 9. And six of those points were from a defensive touchdown. The Cardinals' offense scored three points against the Seaclocks three weeks ago. And like, you look at this and like the Cardinals, again, D.K. says it doesn't matter. I don't care. The quarter stats. The Cardinals have the fewest points of the first quarter this year and their defense is allowed the most.

I don't think that's just random. Like, that's coaching. Like every week, they're giving up the, they're just losing that the, percentage of time the Cardinals are losing games. It's more than any other team in the NFL. And the Seahawks are out of here like winning. They're playing great football. Geno Smith, it looks the eye test even better than all the numbers say.

It's the best year of his career. And I'm like, you know what? Every instinct in my bones is screaming. The Seahawks are going to win this game. And I'm like, okay, if every instinct, I have is wrong. Oh, no. The opposite must be true. So I think the lock of the week is that the Arizona Cardinals's money line.

This is good. This is really good. Because I can't find a reason. What was the one that you had earlier this year? It was the Colts versus the Jags. or something like that. Yeah. Well, no, that was the, the Chiefs Colts,

I wish had been in Costanza. Oh, right. That was also one, and then Colts won. But that's how I feel. Yeah, this is good. This is good. This makes no sense,

so that's why it probably will come true. The Cardinals don't play normal games. They're almost like the new Seahawks. So shit is always going on with them. Obviously, DeAndreadre Hopkins is back. That is like one of the big things. And I know the Syviks do have rookie cornerbacks, but regardless, I just,

I don't think that your obsession with like the scoring per quarter, I don't think it doesn't matter. I just think it's funny how much you, how much you think it matters. Like you're just obsessed with these little factoid. It's fun. I'm just like,

what happened at the end? What was the final score? Like that's, how many points did they actually score? I think what matters to me with the, obviously the Cardinals are scoring more later in the game. I think that what I like about that stout of Arizona, and I think it matches the eye test.

is that the offense designed by Cliff Kingsbury just doesn't fucking work. And then when actually push comes to shove and the Cardinals need to go score to win the game in like the late third, fourth quarter, and Kyla Murray just starts running around the recess, that's when everything works. It's when he's running around,

when he's forcing balls to the Andre Hopkins, everything that can't really be designed does really well for Arizona. And I just don't know. Cliff Kingsbury is the office-based guy. It's just like, what do you do here? It's like, so you take the reports from the client.

Physically? Take your sunglasses off. Geez. Somebody was like, hey, Tomlin wears sunglasses. Yeah, well,

you know what? They play outside. They play out of the sun. Oh, man. I don't like the fact that this game is in Arizona. There's bad juju

with Arizona and the Seahawks. Like, yeah. I'm not going to even talk about it. Oh, is that because you guys lost the Super Bowl there? That, in addition to the fact

that the Seahawks have suffered like several major career-ending injuries to some of like their most iconic players in that field. Oh, Richard Sherman, yeah, he tours. Richard Sherman, I believe there was Cliff Averill. I can't remember. There's several others. I'm totally blanking.

I shouldn't know this. You know what's funny that you guys both have this kernel of knowledge in your brain that I don't have, and I'd love to know what people think. Email us. I don't know where Super Bowls are played. I like, you guys always know the city Super Bowl. No, we know because the, no, it's really easy. The Giants played the Patriots and beat them the first,

the 7th, when the page 18-01, that Super Bowl was in Phoenix, or Glendale at the time. No, same one. I always get confused. But that was at the Cardinal Stadium. And so you don't forget where your team went to Super Bowl.

And then D.K., the one that's lost to the Patriots. When your team's in the Super Bowl, you know what was played. I don't know if that's correct. I couldn't tell you where the Steelers played any of their Super Bowls. That's interesting.

Really? No, I don't know. I was like, just like, maybe if you were, I didn't work in football when the Steelers were doing that. So maybe that's why. But, like, I just, I don't know. I wasn't working in football in 2007.

Yeah, I guess that's true. Can you imagine? I don't know. I just, to me, I just turn on the Super Bowl. And maybe in the moment, I obviously knew where it was, but like as the years go, I couldn't tell you where it. Yeah, this is interesting. Email us at Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com. I agree.

I think my guess is that if your team's in the Super Bowl, you know where the game is. And otherwise, it's mostly forgettable. Because I know the Seahawks won their Super Bowl at the Meadowlands. And then they lost in Arizona. and that sucked, and I don't like that field. And then also, the one everyone will remember is that the Bucks and the Rams both won those home. Everyone's going to remember that. Yeah.

I get an additional category here that we haven't done before. Ooh. The Fantasy Beer Goggles Award. Ooh. The quarterback play hasn't been that great this year, you guys. And so maybe this is all relative. But I'm kind of into Taylor Heineke for the commanders. Yeah.

Closing time. I have been very anti-Hineke in the past. Like, I'll just put that out there. I recognize that. I've been like, he sucks. Can we call him, if this is the fantasy beer goggles,

so we call him Taylor Heineken? There we go. I like that. This is brought to you by Heineken. Look, I don't think he's actually like really good, but he's eighth right now in points for game. I know he's only played like two games,

but he's eighth if you took his points per game. He has a don't give a fuck like Yolo style. He's just willing to chuck it up. I think he's almost undoubtedly better for the skill player. on the commanders in terms of like his style of play how he's able to push the ball down field give the ball to McLaurin in particular and the Vikings this week where they're playing have given up eighth most points to quarterback so I don't know I'm kind of excited about the commanders

this weekend how do you guys feel about his thing with the Air Jordans where he buys the Air Jordans with the colors of the teams that he beats oh really it's lame for sure but I can't decide if it's really cool and I just don't like the P it and it is cool or I something of it turns me off, but I think it's because, like, Darren Ravell has, like, really picked it up, and I don't know if it's just the people who are sharing this information with me.

I don't like the messengers. If other players are doing this, it would be cool, though, right? Agreed. Like, if Michael Jordan did this, would be, like, so cool, but if you're not that good, it's weird. Like, if Jalen Hertz just secretly had

all these colors of all these shoes, to be like, oh, my God, wow, Jalen hurts is awesome. Yeah, but Heineke, but look, it all kind of folds in to this pit bull mentality that Heineke has. You keep saying this and I don't get it.

He's a dog. He's got that dog in him. He does. Heineke not only looks like a pit bull, plays like a pit bull, and I'm just all in on Washington right now because I have McLaren on a lot of fantasy, on my big fantasy team this year,

and he's been a godsend for him. He really has. He's so much better than Wentz was for the, and also Antonio Gibson, he's just checking down, Antonio Gibson, or at least getting in the ball. Again, it's kind of like what Dekis said

where, you know, is Javis Winston better than any adult? in a vacuum, probably sure. You know what Andy Dalton does? Gets the ball or the good players. That's what I want. Yes.

The good players get the ball. That's the way I judge you. With Heineke, it's just like, there are, you know, maybe Wence is trying very hard to read the progressions on a route. I think he's just getting the good players the ball?

Yeah. Great strategy. Also, we don't have to get into it, but like the whole Washington commander's organization is having quite the dramatic weekend, or week, I should say. So I live in Washington, D.C., and I got to say, I don't want to be hyperbolic, and there's been a lot of lows, but I will say this is a low bar, but I think the 24-hour news cycle of Dan Snyder hiring Bank of America, which maybe to sell a team, maybe just to sell a minority ownership combined with the news today, what was it, that Jeff Bezos and Jay-Z might do a bid, which, again, maybe this is completely fake. It means nothing. But, like, this news, I feel like is one of the high points of,

Washington like D.C. football in the last like two years. Literally just those two headlines, the people I know who are Washington fans are more excited about that than anything since I've moved here. 100%. Like my very unscientific

view of just seeing what Washington fans, how they were reacting on Twitter, it was like this is, like they won the Super Bowl. Like it was legitimately like the greatest day of their lives. I really hope it ends up like he ends up selling because he's, you know,

Dan Snyder, he's probably going to, or like do the whole Trump thing. Like he wriggle his way out of this one again. Ah, nevertheless, you know. But like, sounds like the team is under investigation for like financial crimes and things like that.

Like, he might actually be forced to finally sell. I have a lot of kinship with the Washington fans just as a Knicks fan because there's a special breed of nihilism that a fandom gets when you're terrible, awful owner that everyone hate. And obviously Snyder, it's probably worse than what Dolan has done. But when you're awful, terrible owner,

he's like also pretty young and a billionaire, and you're like, damn, he might just outlive me. You know what I mean? Like, that's like the worst kind of feeling. You know what I mean? You're like, is this it? He has to sell.

That's why there's so much push from him to sell. It's because if he doesn't sell, he could outlive everybody who's a Washington fan. I don't know. They could cryofreeze him. I don't know. You could live forever. Yeah.

Oh, man. Anyway, go Heineke. All right. We have any emails? We do. This one is. is great. It's actually from about a month ago, so I apologize for not doing it earlier. It's from Mike.

And I'm just going to go ahead and read it off because I think it's hilarious. So Mike has been an avid listener of the podcast for several years. Happily credit the fantasy football advice you three provide every week for my successes. He goes on to talk about how great he's done. Unfortunately, that's changed. I used to win multiple leagues every year. And now my record's in four leagues. And this was again a month ago, two and two, two and two.

He's a bunch of 500 teams and bad teams. How did I go from being good at fantasy football a few years ago to being so bad? Is it because I now have two kids and can't commit as much time to it? No, I figured it out. I think it's your fault because somewhere along the line, Danny Highfits stopped yelling Danny Kelly's name at the beginning of the podcast. And Mike has sucked ever since. In celebration of Danny's 40th birthday,

in hopes of putting this out in the universe, I will regain my winning ways. Please enjoy the attached MP3. Mike put together a super cut of High Fitz screaming Danny Kelly. For those who don't know, In the earlier days of this podcast, I was much louder in the intro, if you can believe that.

Like, I was very loud. Like, and it was several notches. Like several notches higher, yeah. But yeah, many notches. And we stopped because it was probably not the best practice. Some, like maybe off-putting to new people listening. Yeah. But the old people love the screaming.

They do. Yeah, wait, Jesse, can you play this clip? I want to hear this. My name is Danny Hyfitson. I'm joined as always by my co-hosts and Mikeo Danny Danny. The hero we need and the analyst we deserve the Dark Knight himself. Danny Kelly! Danny Kelly!

Danny Kelly! Danny Kelly! As always! The Dark Knight himself! Danny Kelly! Danny Kelly! That was borderline anger. I felt like.

Danny Kelly. Danny Kelly. Danny Kelly. Danny Kelly. Danny Kelly. Danny Kelly. Danny Kelly. Daddy Kelly.

Hi, Vince, just because you're in New York and DKs in Seattle doesn't mean you have to yell for him to hear you across the country. Danny Kelly! Danny Kelly! Danny Kelly! It brings me life if it helps. I don't feel anything every day is insane. I don't know where I am. Danny Callie!

Daddy Kelly! Danny Callie! You brought the energy right there. I've been wearing to go. I'm feeling, man. A lot of feels. Very cowie. Oh, my God.

Wow. Shout out to... Wait, who made that? Mike. Major shout out to Mike. for making that. My first thought, first of all,

the old music ripped. Yeah, I know. I really like the old music. Shout out Evan Campbell. He was a producer that's at the ringer. And I remember telling him,

he was like a good music sound designer guy. And he was like, what do you want to do music to be? And I was like, you know those bells that play and the NFL network? I was like,

do that, but like, that goes hard. And he was like, say no more. Came back with that and I was like, no notes.

This is so good. Oh, my God. I think we should, Just for as a tradition, like, play that every once in a while, like once a year or something like that. Just use that intro again. My favorite part of that was Hyphids going, as always. I know. As always.

So good. I think it was a mix of like Bruce Buffer introducing UFC fighters and like the Fourth of July hot dog guy. You ever seen those interests? Yeah. Introducing Joey Chestnut. Oh my gosh. Oh my God. That guy's when he's like, you ever seen that?

You ever seen that guy introduce the Fourth of July hot dog people? I don't think I have. It's the most ludicrous, like, event. Like, just not the hot dogs. Introducing the people walking up, he's, we'll have to, I'll have to show you guys this. If this career doesn't work out for you, I think it's, you could always pivot to that. It would be an honest-to-god dream of mine to just, oh my God.

George Shea is his name. Look up George Shea, just the hot dog intro videos. He's just like, in a world. with great oceans drain to sand. There will still be a monument to his greatness. I hope that Mike didn't spend too long on that. Maybe that's why fantasy team is bad. He's got two kids and he's in his room making a mix of Danny's saying,

if it's yelling, he could be checking waivers. It was a clean mix too. He had the background music all long, throwing in Craig here and there. Craig had like the Nileless thing, though. I don't feel any. I don't know what that was. What day was that?

What was happening? I'm trying to imagine what happened. happened that week probably. The 2018 was a weird week for Craig. Did I say 2018 was a week? Yeah, you did. When do you think, what year were those from? Is that like 2019?

18 and 19. 19, I think. I think we only had it for one year. I think 19 was that music. Anyway, I hope that us putting this back into the universe, Mike, will help you turn your season around. Build a playoffs, win it all. Thank you, Mike.

Thank you, Craig. Thank you Danny Kelly! Thank you Lord! Thank you Lord! Thank you, Outcast. Oh, it's a nice. Great one.

Great one. What's your favorite Outcast? That's a good question. I mean, the first one that came to mind was Hey. Hey, nah, or heyya? Hey, yeah. Hey, yeah. It's been a while.

It's all right. I got Hey Ma confused with Hey, yeah. My favorite is Miss Jackson, that's a good one. The first thing that came in my mind was bombs over Baghdad, but I think, I mean, it's basic answer. But I think the three we just gave her the most basic three. Rosa Parks. Roses is also huge.

Yeah. Yeah. Have you guys seen semi-pro? Yeah. Will Ferrell? Remember that Andre 3000 is just in that? He's just like one of the guys on the team, Coffee Black. That's just Andre 3000.

That's awesome. Incredible. Yeah. So, we forgot to thank Jesse. Thank you, Jesse. Yeah. Thank you for playing. Oh, my God.

Thank you, Jess. I got so excited to yell D.K.'s name. Jesse. Thank you, Jesse. Can you yell? Thank you, Jesse. Okay. As always, thank you, Jesse Lopez.

For production help. Wow, Zoom actually did me a favor there. I know. It was so loud. Zoom, like, kind of collapsed for three seconds. That was nice. levels on the audio thing we use that it's, you know, it's like a governor. Yeah, like when you just like it comes. And like I, it doesn't ever go red. I think I just

made it go red a lot. Yeah, we should really thank Jesse for the audio wizardry. He's about to pull off on those screens of yours. All right. Thank you, everyone. Goodbye.