The Ringer NFL Show - Wild-Card Recap: Comeback Caleb, 49ers Shock Eagles, Bills Bounce Jags, and Taco Bell Zyns

Episode Date: January 12, 2026

The guys relive an all-time Wild Card weekend, including the Bears breaking Packers fans’ brains, the 49ers refusing to die against the Eagles, and Josh Allen turning into a mistake-free superhero. They then get into Fart or Shart, the Packers’ existential crisis, and why this postseason already feels completely unhinged. (00:00 Intro (03:44) Winners and Losers (41:50) Fart or Shart? (01:17:54) Intrusive Thoughts (01:32:59) Crazy Stats (01:44:26) Emails Discord link: https://discord.gg/Ge8bbYHrau Check out the 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings: https://fantasyfootball.theringer.com/ Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Cameron Dinwiddie Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hypertz, and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck, and we are going over five of the six games from maybe the best wild card round in the NFL playoff history, and we're doing it from Netflix, aren't we, D.K.? We sure are.

They put the wild in wild card round, fellas. I was thinking about that all day long. Unfortunately, we did not win the Golden Globe for Best Podcast. That went to Amy Polar for Goodhang, but crossing our fingers for next year. just beat it. We just lost out to Amy.

It was like Charges Patriots, you know. It's super close. We're going to be on Netflix for all of 2026. So you can still watch our show on Spotify. You can still listen to our show as a podcast anywhere. But the coolest way to watch our show. The Ring of Fantasy Football show is here on Netflix. So we are going to have three episodes a week during the NFL playoffs.

We do the off season two. So after the Super Bowl, we're still going to have two episodes a week covering NFL free agency, covering trades and the NFL draft. Dan and Kelly here is our draft expert. as we cover the whole offseason. And because we're sickos, even after the NFL draft, ends in late April.

We're still doing it in episode a week all summer. So we're going to be on Netflix all year, unless they kick us off. And maybe they will, because we didn't beat out Amy Poller for that award. Yeah. Did you mention that we go to the Combine? We go to Indianapolis.

I think we're going to try to make D.K. run a 40 this year. So a lot of fun stuff coming, I would say. So with that said, let's get into a wildcard weekend. And before we even get into a specific game, I have to just go through this. during Eagles 49ers, the game is still going. When the Niners took the lead at the end of Eagles 49ers,

they put up a graphic on the telecast, and it said that this postseason had the most fourth quarter lead changes in a postseason ever. And I assume that meant for the wild card round. And apparently they meant for the entire playoff run, which feels impossible, right? Yeah, I mean, only we were four games in to Wildcard round? There were 12 fourth quarter lead changes,

and there were two full games still to be played, and the Eagles 49ers game had not yet ended. So, I mean, I mean, Bill's Jags, there were four lead changes in the fourth quarter. The Bears had a 15-point comeback win. The Rams came back under two-minute warning. The Niners took the lead with three minutes left. Patriots, charges. That game kind of sucked.

But otherwise, D-K., is it hyperbole or do you think this is actually one of the best first rounds of the NFL playoffs ever? I mean, I think it's up there for sure. Just in terms of the drama, I think I saw a stat that during that 49ers Eagles game, the three teams that had been leading at the two-minute warning ended up losing, the previous three games. So we were just like kind of expecting a wild finish to everything. But yeah, I mean, if you're into wild lead changes, multiple lead changes, huge

comebacks, dramatics, yes, I think it was up there. I mean, we talk about regression all the time, right? Teams who are in close games that win every time, like the Bears this season, right? Oh, regression is coming for the Bears. Just like the Chiefs last year when all these close games. We were due for regression for some good football games. That was a joke this whole season. Seriously.

Primetime games for the last half of the last half of the game. the season. We're terrible. And we got four straight incredible games over Saturday and Sunday this weekend. Does this mean the divisional round is going to just totally suck? I don't know. I think we're still due. That's how many bad Sunday and Monday night games there were. I think we're still do. You know what it is? Craig? It's delayed

gratitude. This is what Fernando Moses, Mendoza keeps talking about. He's talking about the stoics and delayed gratitude. So that's what we got with the season. To use his words is flipping great slate. Fliping great slate. So let's get into winners of losers from the wild card around Craig, starting with

Well, I mean, there's one big winner, I think, from the wild court round. I think it's got to be Chicago, the Bears, who beat the Packers, 31, 27. And I think the most electric game of the weekend by far is the first bear. I'm going to rattle off some stats. There's a lot of good stuff from this game. The first Bears playoff went in 15 years. They were down 21 to 3 at the half. They were down 21 to 6 in the fourth.

He scored 25 points in the fourth quarter. The largest comeback in Bears playoff history. In the NFL postseason, teams were three and a hundred. I love these stats. They were three and 15.58 all time when trailing by 15 plus entering the fourth quarter, teams in the playoffs. It's the third largest fourth quarter comeback in NFL playoff history and the third most fourth quarter points in NFL playoff history.

I don't know where you start. I love the bears. I don't know why. I feel like my own team is in the playoffs and I think I want the bears to win the Super Bowl. But they're just super fun. And I think the whole, I don't know, the narrative with them, I feel like has been, oh, they went all these close games, all these comebacks. It's like these late game heroics.

They have a horseshoe up their butt, whatever. And to me, like, teams of destiny don't give a shit about statistics or regression or any of that stuff. And sure, they're unlikely, but you know what they do? You know what being in all these close games do? They give you experience. Like, I bet you the heart rate of the bears in the fourth quarter was low because they've been doing this every single game. I think they have 11, one score games they've been in this year. Like, I think that matters.

And I think for Caleb who's a young quarterback of the first time head coach and this team that has kind of just like blew up out of nowhere over the second half of the season, I think it really matters that even though it's unlikely that it's going to continue, even though it once again did today. Like I think teams of destiny, that stuff, you can throw it all out. Like Joe Flacco and the Ravens in 2012, like sometimes you're just feeling it. It's like in golf. Like there are just some days where you shoot an 82. It doesn't mean I'm a 10 handicap, but some days you shoot at 82. And I think the bears are totally in that right now. I think that experience from the season really helps.

I think Craig, that's such a good point. And there is actually some scientific basis for this type of deal. I, there was a concept that went, that was a big thing for the Seahawks for a long time. It was this concept of grit. Angela Duckworth wrote this book called grit. And based on some of the research that they've done on, people that have, you know, really tough upbringings or have basically experienced a lot of adversity. And this is the word that always came back to that, like, I really, really, really. it just resonates really well

is you're inoculated in stress so basically it's like getting a vaccine almost where your body we're on Netflix to kick careful I know I know a little controversial here Rogers and the Steelers have been inoculated for stress Rogers was inoculated he was fine we're fine anyway they your body

kind of gets conditioned and learns how to deal with the stress that happens in those types of situations so like I totally believe this that like having those situations coming out on top they believe in themselves they believe in like each other and I mean this was going into half they were down I think it was 21 to three it's like we had basically given up on them where like the Packers are way better team they're

just absolutely dominating and I have to appreciate and I really do appreciate teams that like don't panic at those situations like in the first half there was that situation where Caleb Williams was like screaming at Luther Burden and whatever that was like maybe the one spot where I was like oh god this isn't looking good but like for the most part they didn't panic and they just kind of kept doing their thing and then the defense took over. I think today, AJ Brown was like, well, Caleb screamed at his player and it worked. So I'm going to scream at my head. Let's try that. And see if that's going to work. But you're right, D.K., to your point, everything was going terribly. The Packers looked great. It was 21 to 3 at half. Everything was going wrong for the

Bears. The Bears, turnover margin has been like the biggest thing for the Bears this year. It's like they win the turnover battle and then they win these close games. They did not win the turnover battle. They had two turnovers. The Packers had zero. Despite the fact that the Packers had three very getable fumbles, including one by. by Christian Watson into the end zone. The Packers threw an inexplicable screen pass to an offensive lineman. He rumbled 20 yards, fumbled and then kicked the ball

like he dropped his phone, kicked it, 10 more yards. They didn't recover that. Josh Jacobs fumbled on a kick return. They didn't recover that. Jordan Love had tipped balls that could have been intercepted. There were so many things that went wrong. And yet they still won, which I just think, again,

kind of goes back to like, if you think you can do it, it's what Ben Johnson says, of these crazy locker room speeches after the game. He's like, we had them right where we want him. Like down 213. This is exactly where we want to be. And now they believe that. I love that.

You know, the Ben Johnson, I think, I think, I mean, simply put, I think that Ben Johnson being hired at the Bears, we talked a lot about Caleb Williams' and scheme and fixing the Bears and like, look at Ben Johnson's run designs and they do cool stuff and look at all the passing game and all this stuff. But the reality is the culture that Ben Johnson has brought to Chicago, it is hard to argue with at this point.

one thing you're doing the regular season, but when you do it in the playoffs, like that Packers Bears game, that third Packers' Bears game where they won, even though, I mean, the Bears and Packers, the Bears almost went three and O versus Green Bay this year. They did not lead on offense once during the entire, like stretch after games. They did not have the lead on offense for one play, and the Bears almost went three and O versus Green Bay. But then you look at what Ben Johnson's done with the culture, and one, it's more impressive to me than anything he's done with the X's and O's. But two, I think considering that fact that Chicago is what the third largest city in America and watching Caleb Williams at the desk at the Thursday of Foot Blame is on Prime like post game show and there's like they sit with the biggest crowd that it ever stayed after a game. They're screaming like screw the Packers like Caleb, Caleb.

And I'm like, the Bears have never had a good quarterback in the entire history of the team. And Ben Johnson and Caleb have revived football in Chicago. And that alone, I think it's the biggest story of the entire season. 100% not even like just that they beat the packers twice this year and they beat the packers three times in the last two years by the way Caleb williams has has beaten the packers more times than j cutler Mitch trubisky and justin fields combined already i i don't i Caleb williams is maybe the best quarterback in the history of the bears already probably right i know that sounds funny but like go and find me another one because

j cutler was 500 as a quarterback and mostly known for not trying and then jim harbaw struggled so much with the Bears. He went to the Colts that gave him a comeback player of the year. He wasn't even hurt. He was just on the Bears. Also, I think Caleb already, like, it's not that he's just beaten the Packers. The way in which they beat the Packers, I think Caleb probably has already, like, two of the five most important throws in the history of Chicago. The fourth and eight throw where he was drifting to his left and, like, jump past downfield to keep the game alive. Dude, that will go down in history for the, for the Bears. Like, truly. The overtime went a month ago when he hit that that ball to DJ Moore to win the game and overtime that.

And then, yeah, the fourth and eight that he did a Dunezay yesterday where there's a guy at his feet, he turns around, flicks the ball like he's throwing a dart. Legitimately only Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen can make that throw. Those are the only two people I could ever imagine doing that. And Caleb, I look, I think Caleb, there's a little bit of like Nick Young to him still to use a basketball reference, like where it's like he can hit the craziest three you've ever seen and then still miss a layup. Like there is a little bit of that still with him.

But dude, the upside in this season. that we see from him already is, is like literally Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen level. I will throw out another name. The opposite is Aaron Rogers. And I know I keep saying this, but Caleb Williams is Aaron Rogers. He's Aaron, I don't want to call him Aaron Rogers 2.0, but it's not hyperbole. Is Aaron Rogers height? Is Aaron Rogers away? He based his entire game off Aaron Rogers. Caleb Williams was a Packers fan growing up because of Aaron Rogers. He based his entire game off it. These are Caleb's words, not mine. And so when you watch him, it's not just that he is the first good quarterback in Bears history for a team that's

a good quarterback. The Bears are the only team that's never had a 4,000 yard passer. Caleb this season already has the single season record for passing yards in his season by a bear's quarterback. He's like 3950. That's the record. He's also very good. I know he had two turnovers in this game. I saw this status, like one of the fewest turnovers of any quarterback who's ever played in his first two seasons. Yes. The fewest turnovers. Because he modeled his game off here. It's very Aaron Rogers. Rogers has the lowest interception rate in the history of the NFL. That's what Caleb does. And so it's not just that Caleb's doing this for the Bears and revived football in Chicago. Caleb's doing it to the Packers.

And Aaron Rogers made his career of owning the Bears and dominating them. And Aaron Rogers was like 23 and 3 or something versus the Bears. And in games the Packers were trying to win. They were like 17 and won in their last 18. Caleb has now gone and completely flipped the tables. And Caleb is doing to the Packers what the Packers always did to the Bears. And so this really is the most incredible. incredible turning of the tables and it's the oldest rivalry in the NFL and now it's actually

like the best rivalry in the NFL. I had this thought during the game and I know this is like every NFL playoff game is probably wild and super fun, but I just remember in the shots with all the fans in the stadium. I was like, man, that would be such a fun game to be at. I remember seeing like in the early parts of the game. Then obviously the Packers went up really big and I was like, oh, never mind. That wouldn't be that fun. But you know, as the game went along and then the way it finished. And then you got videos of like the scenes in bars in downtown Chicago. Oh my God. Man. Just magic. Just magic. Saturday night too. Oh my God. People were lubricated. Something I actually thought would go more viral was at Thursday football. The thing was Caleb Williams

grabs a cheese cheese grater hat, which by the way, I'm so glad that guy's going to be rich. The cheese grater hat guy is just an absolutely, he's the winner of the weekend. But the, he's wearing it. They give him cheese and a grater and Caleb starts doing it. And then he picks up all the cheese. and he does Salt Bay. And then Lil Wayne posts about it and is like, I can't believe this guy with his nails painted is like destroying the Packers. We suck. And then Caleb Williams puts that on Instagram with a, like,

picks a picture of that little Wayne tweet and then post with his new nails painted. He is the, he is just like he's a new breed, man. Like this is like the, it's, they're having so much fun. And Ben Johnson too as a coach is just sprinting the mat. Lafleur.

Like I think it's the fastest anyway. What were the miles per hour and Ben Johnson during the hands? handshake with Matt Lafleur. You see, he got knocked, he got knocked over and he like flipped over. Yeah. He's just like going crazy after the game. I got to say, Ben Johnson's got a little bit more crazy in him than I anticipated. I kind of thought when he was in Detroit that he was like a quiet guru.

Because I feel like Dan Campbell took up so much space in the room that you didn't really have a sense of who Ben Johnson was. Ben Johnson's crazier than Dan Campbell, dude. Ben Johnson's screaming fuck the Packers in the locker room, the handshake to LaFleur's nuts. It feels like he let his hair down and is actually a little bit more. of a maniac than we thought. I was going to say this. I wonder, I don't know what the history is between Matt Lefleur and Ben Johnson.

Maybe Lefleur like stole Ben Johnson's girlfriend in college or something. Like it's so weird because it started from the very beginning. Ben Johnson as introductory press conference was like, man, it got to be frank with you. I kind of enjoyed beating Matt LaFleur twice a year. Well, he was like there's great coaches in this division. You have Dan Campbell. You have Kevin O'Connell. And I liked beating Matt LaFleur twice.

every year. And now he's like bullying him. It's like so weird. Like their, they're, they're going to get fired. Don't be mean to him. It's like, Matt Lefleur's over here. Like, what the hell? What do I do? And I don't even know if like Ben Johnson called the best game. Like, I feel like he was tilting on fourth down. There was like a, there was a fourth and four in their own territory. They went for and didn't get older fourth. Not just the fourth and four. At their own 32 yard line and analytics said to punt. I mean this. I think that might be the.

the first time in the history of the NFL playoffs where the analytics said punt and a coach went for it and fell down. I seriously don't know if that's ever happened, ever in the history of NFL playoffs. It happens, it doesn't even happen once a season. Yeah, so it's like I wasn't even super confident that he was kind of locked in completely

because they were two for six on fourth down and they were kind of messy throughout the entire game. Luther Burden did the Fulcadarius Tony where you line up wrong, motion wrong, run the wrong route and the ball gets intercepted. You never go Fulcadierius Tony. I know. I said a couple months ago or whatever, that like I think the Bears can win the Super Bowl in the next three years.

I mean, I fully believe they can win this year. DK. Do you think that, do you think this was a magical thing versus an absolutely walking wounded Green Bay Packers team, which is worth noting the entire game kind of shifted. And a Colston level of the Bears said, rookie was unbelievable in this game. My God. He had like 100 yards and they were like first 100 yard rookie tight end in like 40 years. And then I swear he like 13, 15 catches after they put up that graphic.

But not really, but he had 15 targets, eight catches, for 117 yards or something like that. Like he was, he was all over the place. He was their number one receiver. He got, I want to say he had that two point conversion where he just lined up as like one on one and ran around. It was dominant. Crazy.

But I will say the game turned a lot. Edron Cooper, the Packers linebacker went out of the game. The Bears really couldn't do anything before that moment. And then the Bears really started spamming sail routes. The Coles Leavlin. And then like, again, the fourth and down in the goal line. I mean, that was like a gap pressure up the middle, drew out the center and the right guard did not communicate.

the D. G. Moore falls down on the route. Like, things really did go wrong. But even while that's happening, the body language agree base. I'd line that you're in love was worse than what was going on in Chicago. So the belief in everything, to your point, Craig,

at some point you win so much, you do feel like you can't die. And that's not to say that the bears will always be able to win when they're losing down two minutes. It's to say that it doesn't matter how bad this Kansas City Chief season was. The Chiefs don't think they're going to lose

still even next year. Like when Mahal returns from his ACL, they don't think they're going to lose because Mahomes is here. They don't care. And so the confidence at the end of games does matter. And building up the belief internally, as cliche as it is, does matter. And I think the bears have that.

The fans have. And that's the other things, the fans. Players see when fans leave the stadium. That's also infectious and contagious. And Bears fans are not leaving games where the bears are losing in the fourth quarter to be traffic anymore. Yeah. The irony is the game last year where they lost on the Hail Mary to the commanders.

Oh, my God. what derailed their entire season and now they're doing that to other teams. Yeah. It's just, I mean, it, you asked me if I think they can win the Super Bowl or it looks like,

it seemed like you were going in that direction. I do think I still kind of see them as that team that's like really good. Needs another year. And maybe we'll see next year if they can do that. But that being said, I'm just at the point now where I'm like, could they? Yeah.

Yeah. No, where I was going with that is basically, I don't think there's any team that looks like the clear cut favorite. Like the Rams are going to have to go. go into Chicago next year or next week and play in like 19 degree weather in the cold. They're banged up. Yeah.

You know, the, the, the bears are feeling confident. I don't think that's like a gimmee game for the Rams by any means. And so, yeah. Bears have like very little pass rush again, they don't have a great front seven to start with when they're healthy. They're not totally heavily. They lost Tj Edwards in this game. Their linebacker was carded off like they had injuries.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Trapillo, the left tackle got hurt right at the end. And then, you know, they went down and scored. And they're both out. Like, I think, Yeah, Tropello is a Patel attendant or something, right?

Yeah, left tackle and your best linebacker, who the defensive coordinator, Janice Allen said is like the brains of the defense, the quarterback of the defense are out. That's like two pretty bad injuries to not be Caleb Williams. But overall, I still think I cannot stress enough. Caleb throwing on the move is I already kind of want to label like one of the most accurate and best and most talented quarterbacks throwing on the move in the history of the league. That fourth and eight, like the consistency with which he gives his receivers a chance from

impossible windows. I can't say enough. So I think that Caleb is, the ceiling of this team goes with Caleb because there's all these reasons we can say that bears won't do it. But I think they've been incredible. But with that said, I think DK, another winner here sticking in the NFC. I know you're a Seahawks fan, but I don't know, man, 49ers. The 49ers, man. So I'm giving this award to the 49ers slash Kyle Shanahan just won't die. Shanning, that's the thing is you just can't kill this 49ers team, no matter how many players they lose, no matter how long they're standing next to this electrical substation in Santa Clara, you just can't take them out. They lost George

Kittled today to an Achilles tear and they still end up beating the Eagles 23 to 19 in their home. Can I just say collectively, thank God. I know. Like, we didn't need any more Philly in the playoffs. I wonder if Eagles fans are even like, you know what? I'm glad it's over. I think Eagles fans are happy. They don't have to watch this. I think so, man. Nobody wanted this. Nobody loved it. But yeah, I mean, Shanahan, what? he's done taking this jalopy ass roster like so many guys have been gone like almost the entire season like they had mac jones who was a starter for half the year um and they're going to the divisional round they they knocked off the defending champs in their place um you know there's so much

talk this week about how like shanahan can never do anything against vick fangio this was the worst game uh according to success rate this was from shield kapadia the worst game according to success rate against any team is done against vic vic vick fanio since he became the eagles um Oh, DC. So like that he kind of buried that, especially considering, you know, they had like missing so many guys. I mean, to Marcus Robinson is the leading receiver in this in this team. He opens his game with like the 60 yard catch. DeMarcus Robinson did not have 62 yards in a game this season. And DeMarcus Robinson had a 62 yard catch on like the third play and then caught his only touchdown of the year on the same drive. Dude, I mean, Sky Moore, who I don't think should be allowed within a thousand yards of a football field was playing meaningful minutes for the nineers. Sky less.

You know what I mean? Should Skyless. Take away one of the Y's on his name. You have to earn the second Y. Also, so many emailed us. I forgot. I'm sorry,

I forgot. Someone emailed us and was like, is there a player who sounds more like a porn star with their name than Sky Moore? Even the double Y. The double Y is like, that's, that just sounds like a porn star.

Yeah. And it's, we should do a ranking of the players with the coolest names who don't live up to them. Right. That's really good. You should do that. Because Sky Moore is top 10.

That's a great name. There was a guy. recently in the NFL, his name was Bumper Pool. But is that pretty good? That's funny. Is that cool? No, it's probably not cool. It's closer to funny. They It's weird name. Email us at ringer fantasy football

at gmail.com. It's like Storm Duck. Like, I don't know if that's cool. It's funny. Emails at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com for cool names where guys don't live up to it. But also if you think of funny names because they're easier than send those two. I still want Storm Duck. But the Kyle Shannon, though, with this team, I agree. The healthiest player in the Niners is Christian McCaffrey. Shannon's ripping the smelling salts before the game. Shannon, like, they could barely, like, then Eagles were outclassing the Niners in a lot of ways.

And the Niners could not run the ball. McCaffrey, I don't think he even had 50 rushing yards in this game. They could not run the ball. So every third and long, every third down is the third long for the Niners. And then Shanahan figures out how to manufacture it in the second half even without George Kittle. They started three drives in a row and they threw to Kyle Eustech, the fullback on first down. He was huge in this game.

He was. He was drives in a row. Yeah. I mean, I mean, they're, pulling out trick plays. John Jennings throwing touchdowns to McCaffrey. They're doing everything they could. Time out.

Every time there was a pause in a commercial break, Shannon came out, had an unbelievable play. Yeah. I mean, the Eagles run the most, such a vanilla offense, even in practice.

They couldn't even fath them a trick play. They didn't know what to do. It was unlike anything they'd ever seen this year. Here's how I would frame it if you're being, you know, instead of saying this was like kind of lucky, they were pulling everything out of their asses. I will say the one thing I came away with watching the 49ers is,

man, their skill players are so versatile. I know that they really, I think, focus on this in the draft, like guys that can run after the catch, guys that can do different things, you know, Christian McCaffrey, that catch on the trick play from Joanne Jennings, and by the way, Joanne Jennings was a four-star quarterback prospect coming out of high school.

He was ranked higher than Drew Locke. So just keep that in mind. But the Christian McCaffrey- he's probably ranked higher than Brock Purdy, the quarterback for the minors. I know, honestly, seriously. He has a better arm. maybe. But yeah, the, the catch that Christian McCaffrey made, like, that was not an easy catch.

He had to track that over his shoulder, kind of like reach out. You know, he basically front flipped into the end zone. It was a very, very difficult catch. 99 out of 100 running backs are not making that catch. AJ Brown. So good as a receiver. A.J. Brown dropped three passes in this game that were easier to catch than what McCaffrey caught in the end zone from Joanne Jennings. And frankly, Joanne Jennings made a harder throw than anything Jalen Hurst did in this game. He had a couple good things. He had more 15. yards throws, then Jalen Hurst did in this game. And to be fair, it's because AJ Brown dropped all three of them.

But I, the journey, but this is, I think what coaching, good coaching is to me sometimes is it's like easy to say, well, it's details oriented. I think an example of detail oriented is Joanne, that Joanne is Jenny's trick play. It's Juan Jennings talking to run and then throw in the ball, which is so simple. But he gets a golden globe for it because if you notice, he gets the ball. And then when he talks to run, like he puts it, like, Like to his chest, that's when Reed Blankenship, the Eagle Safety, he's like, oh, he's keeping it and everyone gets a little disarray. Then he pulls it back.

That's intentional. And I think that's the kind of thing where that's the extra wrinkle of Kyle Shan. It's not just figuring out the right time to run that play in the right moment, but it's also that little practice detail that like that ended up being the difference. And then having someone is talented at Trishman McAfrey, who apparently is a better receiver than Angie Brown. Also, Ushack made some incredible plays. Like they have- Was he lined out wide for all these catches? the fullback is lining out an X receiver because George Giddles are.

Like, it's insane. This, it was a really cool game. Yeah, I don't want to say that like this win is enough to kind of say like, you know what, this season's good enough. We did okay. But it kind of is. I mean, if you would have told a Niners fan, like you're going to lose Nick Bosa, you're going to lose Fred Warner, your first round pick.

Mikeliel Williams is out. Your top three linebackers will not play in your playoff game. Yeah, they were lose their fifth, six and seventh linebackers today. Brock Purdy's going to miss half the season. If I paint George Kittle, unfortunately, tears his Achilles in the playoffs. If somebody was like, you're going to be in the divisional round, I think you'd be like, oh my God, absolutely I would take that.

So I kind of think everything after this is gravy. I mean, like, sure, who knows? I mean, they could certainly beat Seattle next week, I think. But, but I mean, you have to kind of take this as like, wow, what Shanahan was able to do this year, might have been more impressive than any feat with any Niners team prior. Right. And Mina mentioned this.

Mina mentioned this during the game, but it was like, the fact that the Eagles can't pass to the middle of the field was just like, that is exactly what the 49ers defense needs because this defense is just so decimated, giving up so many big plays. Like they were, you know, the 31st or 32nd team, you know,

and so many different stats over the second half of the year just because of all the injuries on defense. But the fact that, you know, the Eagles just like literally couldn't take advantage of that was so huge. It was so massive in this game. Hyve, if you nailed something earlier today when we were texting during the Niners game.

It's kind of the opposite of Caleb. You were talking about how good Caleb is on the run when he's rolling out, left or right? Jalen Hertz is the exact opposite. And Brady made a good point when he was like, oh, I don't really, like Jalen had a completely clean pocket. I don't know what happened. Maybe he couldn't, he literally couldn't see over the line.

So he rolls out. However, unlike Caleb, the second Jalen Hertz rolls out of the pocket, he just becomes Derek Carr. A hundred percent. It's just automatic throwing it away. There were two third and 13s that I think sum up Jalen Hertz as a quarterback. And it's the first third and 13. was when the Eagles,

I forget the exact situation, but they were in field goal range. And it was third and 13. It was in the Niners territory. And they ran a quarterback draw, which, and they got, and, you know,

maybe they're trying to get 11 yards to set up a push, but no, Jalen Hertz got like five yards and then turtled and just took field goal position between the hashes, which means in third and 13,

I know it's windy, but they have A.J. Brown and Devante Smith and Dallas Godd and they're not even going to, and the Niners are down three linebackers and they're four defensive linemen. And they're, They're not even going to try to drop back and get 13 yards.

They're not even going to try. And that right there is like, because you said, Tom Brady pointed out, he can't, Jalenards can't see, cannot play from the pocket. But the other next drive, they have third and 13, and that play starts running right. And in my head, I was like, oh, plays over. And you know what's, and here's the point. There is not another quarterback in the playoffs where when they run to their throwing side, like, when a righty quarterback runs right, is there another quarterback in the playoffs or like plays over?

No. Brock Party, Justin Herbert, Drake May. Matt Stafford even, Bryce Young, like Josh Allen, Trevor Lawrence, every other quarterback in the playoffs, probably 20 other quarters in the NFL. When they start running, even Aaron Rogers, they can still make something happen on the move. Jalen Hertz can't. And so suddenly when they don't have the best offensive line in the NFL to just rip open holes, so everything Saquan Barkley does is three yards downfield before contact,

the entire thing falls apart. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think we have Ick of the week in our category. list today. But my, if we did, mine would be that when my quarterback who could squat 600 pounds slides more than the opposing team's quarterback who probably weighs 100 pounds less than him. The one who had emailer said that his girlfriend waited on at Lulu Lemon and none of the women there. No one knew it was an NFL player. And then when his boyfriend told him, they didn't believe him because one of the girls was taller than him. They're like he's not an NFL.

Like I know that Jalen Hertz is being smart and cautious and safe and hit in in and the best ability is availability. I understand that. But every once in a while I want to see my quarterback fucking die for a first down. You know what I mean? Just run somebody over once in a while. And he will, he just refuses to do that, even in crucial moments. And it rubs me the wrong way. And also the Eagles are conservative as hell too, man. Like it bothered me. And I'll give Hertz credit because Hertz's best trait as a quarterback other than just the running and being a downhill north-south runner, which he does less than

that he's older, is he does have a good deep ball for one-on-one. If he does anything, well, it's the deep ball, one-on-one side-one shot. did that in the Super Bowl versus the cheese both times. However, he kind of hit both shots to AJ Brown. One, the win got it and AJ Brown couldn't do it. The other one was AJ Brown's fault. Then AJ Brown screamed it to sit around on the sideline. They never went back to them.

They never went back to those deep sideline shots. And frankly, I think AJ Brown was embarrassed that he fucking bitched all year. And then he dropped the ball. And then he dropped another third and five with the season on the line, Dallas Goddard. That was the worst one. That was right over the middle of the field.

The ball was in his hands. And Dallas Goddard bailed his ass out on the next play. The fourth and five, it hurts bailed his ass out too. So Hertz didn't play. Hertz isn't the reason they lost, but his play style is part of the reason the Eagles are in this situation. Yeah. I don't think Agent Brown could be on this team next year.

I don't think he's going to. He's not going to be. It's not going to be interesting. They may have to shake up everything. Like, do you guys think Siriani is safe even after winning the Super Bowl last year? Like, it just, again, every time we talked about the Eagles team all year. But like, what does Siriani do? He's supposed to be, he's supposed to be like the cheerleader, rah, raw, vibes guy,

go to different meetings and make sure everyone's vibes are good. Like, this team has the worst vibes of any team I've ever seen. Well, luckily, as we've kind of discussed all season, Kevin Petulow, the office of coordinator, I would bet good money is gone. Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, now, because they just went to the Super Bowl and Siriania hired him, I imagine Petulowlo is going to be gone. And now the next offensive coordinator is going to be chosen by Howie Roseman, the DM.

Mike McDaniel. Right. Like, they're probably going to go get somebody great and everything will be fine next year. The offensive line's getting older. I feel like there are things to fix. But I don't, you can't. Siriani, I mean, you can't have double-digit wins, win the division, and then get fired. No, I, I, I mean, Siriani getting fired a year after winning the Super Bowl by rocking the Chiefs would be hilarious.

I actually, I've been critical as Siriani as anybody. I wouldn't fire Siriani. I think Siriani, it's clear. He's a baseball manager. Baseball managers, like, let him wear a jersey for all he wants. He probably wants to, like a baseball manager is with the freaking uniforms. Baseball managers don't set lineups anymore. they don't make these decisions like that we used to think the front offices do it and the baseball

managers are there to manage the clubhouse for the most part and they kind of manage vibes and they make just in-game decisions. That's what Siriani is and we should be. He should not be picking what the offense looks like in a season long way because then it looks like this. When Seriani doesn't get to pick the offense, it looks like what Callan Moore did last year where they scored 40 points of the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Like he's there for vibes. I just think it's silly to be like I wouldn't fire him. He doesn't even do anything. Like you guys were gonna fire the, so the Eagles will get somebody who does something. What does he even do?

NK's point is like, couldn't I just stay in there? If they won 11 games this year with Nick Siriani and Kevin Petulow, like get a get an actual good coach. Somebody who like has strategic value or something like, yeah, I mean they botched the end of the game too. Like I want to talk about this real quick before we move on from from him. Like this was, I don't think this was picked up by the, uh, the, uh, the, announcers during the game, but there was 48 seconds left. Or sorry, 43 seconds left. There was fourth and 11.

And if the, if the Eagles go for it and don't get it, they still had three timeouts left. And they could have gotten the ball back even if they didn't get the fucking fourth and 11. And they called time out because the freaking play clock ran down. Oh, sure, sure, sure. Sorry, it was fourth and 11 with 43 seconds to go. Yes. Then they called the timeout because and then they only had two.

left, which means when the Niners had the ball that wasn't enough to. It was probably the right decision of the moment because you don't want to a fourth and 16, but getting to the point where such an important play requires a timeout is the malpractice. That's the game management part of it. It's like, okay, seriously, what do you do here? What, what do you do?

Other than sit there with your, your beanie pulled all the way over your eyelids, pretty much. And, like, stare at people and getting fights with fans in your own place. He should just wear the full, like, burglar mask with his holes put out. He should just Any has any coach in the history of any other sport ever felt like a fan what a contest to get to stand on the sideline? And then you're like, that guy, you got big Dom like, he's like, can I bring my cousin Dom?

And they're like, yeah, I guess. Sure, fine. Do you see when AJ Brown got in his face, big Dom like stepped in and like, yeah. Dom had a better catch today than AJ Brown. It's like in an event at Disney World where it's all happening and you get to walk on and pretend you're like part of the scene. But like no one can hear anything you're saying. and my God. Last one here.

Dante Koppelowitz Fleming posted that in the last 40 seasons, teams with no turnovers, 35 minutes of time position are 28 and 2 at home in the playoffs. The only two losses are the bills in 2020 and the Eagles today. So congrats to Nick Siriani. And your Princeton offense

where all the receivers back to the fucking end zone. Okay. Other winner today, I think, has to be Josh Allen for the bills. I mean, the bills beat the Jaguars 27, 24. I loved the, a little basic, but I still got me fired up Josh Allen looking at the team and he's like, shooters fucking shoot. And I actually was more fired up by all the way the players are like,

looked at him. It was just sick. And I, Josh Allen has had way cooler games. Josh Allen said way cooler highlights. I think this today was the most disciplined game of Josh Allen's entire career. Because the bills had no margin for error. And Josh Allen made no errors in the,

this game. And if you think about the arc of his career as the guy that couldn't really do anything but make errors and then started doing cool stuff and errors every other play alternating, I thought this was a mistake level of play, mistake free football, on par with games I saw from like veteran Tom Brady and that this felt like the marriage, this felt like the next phase of Josh's career where he still has 90% of his athletic ability. But he's like actually maybe the highest IQ player, maybe one of the highest IQ quarterback in the NFL that isn't like Aaron Rogers. I was blown away at how hard everything was for him and how much he still got the ball movie. This was, yeah, it was like a rocky movie. I mean, he got, he went to the blue tent twice

in the first quarter. He's like banged his hand on somebody's helmet. He's out there. You know, he got checked for a concussion on his knee when he went into the end zone. He got hit in the head twice in one play, then hurt his finger and like it affected him. And then on the same drive seemed like He hyper extended his name. He's just a freaking superhero out there, man. He just keeps going. And it's he's the type of player. I mean, like, just watching from, you know, where we watch, like, I would run through a wall for that guy.

And he's like, it's not even my team. You know what I mean? I just love watching him play. He's just so just tough and physical. And he's just a throwback player. He's running. He scored two rushing touchdowns. He had the, he had that like 18 yard sneak that almost got into the end zone.

I don't know how well. The tush push that just wouldn't stop pushing the tush push. The tush push that ended all tush pushes. Yeah. They're going to ban the play. That's what they're going to show. Yeah, the meeting. Dude, Jaguars defenders turned around because they couldn't conceive with the idea that this play was still going on.

You guys remember? Last week, I was talking about how the Jags, obviously, this game on paper kind of benefits them because they're so good against the run. They're one of the best run defense teams in the NFL. They completely, not completely, but they pretty much shut down James Cook in this game. He had like 40 something yards. You know, average 3.1 yards per carry. He was not a big part of this game whatsoever. And inadvertently, that was, they woke up Josh Allen.

It's almost like you'd rather have James Cook beat you. I know that it's kind of like choose, like pick your poison. But when one of the poison is Josh Allen just going Hulk smash on everybody, like I think I'd go with James Cook on this. I don't know. It's like bizarre. It's tough because the Jaguress came really close to winning. I mean, again, so I mean, the Jaguars took a 16, 13, 13. lead in the fourth quarter.

Then the bill scored a touchdown, the Jack scored a touchdown, the bill scored a touchdown. Then that was it. Trevor Lord was through a pick, but that was the game. But again, maybe I'm being a prisoner in the moment, but I really think this game to me reminded me,

really more than anything I've seen since Tom Brady retired, of a Tom Brady-ass game that had like seven plays where you're like, wow, Josh Allen's a physical alien. But the fact, the thing that really stuck out to me was how covered Brandon Cooks was the entire game. And yet Josh Allen, kept getting the ball to Brandon Cooks and also to Gabe Davis. And those guys were literally signed around Thanksgiving.

They were not on the team. They were washed. Other teams don't want them. Gabe Davis, ironically came from Jacksonville and then was in the bills before that. Brandon Cooks, who is just, these guys might not be on NFL teams next year. And like, that's like a late Patriots thing. You know what I mean? And the fact that Brady, Josh Jones throwing people into unthrowable windows.

But then that final drive, that play where there's a like they have, they're spread out. They have five receivers on the field. and then Josh sees a blitz and he motions Khalil Shakir to the backfield. And Kalil Shakir looks at him as like, what? And Josh just like, get over here and be a running back. You need a block. And then here, no idea what he's doing. So there's just a free rusher.

I think it was Devin Lloyd just sprints like dead sprint right at Josh. And Josh just back foot throws a 40 yard pass to Brandon Cooks, who was not on a team six weeks ago to set up the game winning touchdown is it's like the highest level of, I mean, I thought the highest level of football I'd seen because Caleb amazing throws, but there's an infrastructure of coaching and just crazy talent around Caleb that the bills have decided to not build in the receiving game to function everything else. And Josh is just doing the entire passing game on his own. Yeah, it's fun to see these guys who are like the freaks mature a little bit and like start

to play with their heads a little more. It's like when Happy learned how to putt. You know what I mean? It's like at first Josh Allen was hitting home once. And he's like, I'm just going to rely on that. And I can do that. And now he's like actually combining a little bit of like, maturing and growing and understanding the game mentally more with his physical abilities.

Dude, Khalil Shakir had 12 catches today because there's just nobody else. Right. Keon Coleman, who was like, who was benched basically in the middle of the season, Tyrell Shavers, Aztec, but who nobody knows that guy.

Like, I didn't believe Brandon Cooks. Josh Allen completed 28 of 35 passes, 273 yards in a touchdown. No interceptions. One sack, no fumbles. And then this one from,

opt to sports. Josh is the first player in NFL history to complete. to complete 80% of his passes and rush for multiple touchdowns to the playoff game. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he did exactly, he did what he had to do in this game to win.

Like, that was like the only way that the bills were going to win this game and he did it. It feels wonderful betting on Josh. You never feel out of it. Like, it's like, it's the same feeling as having him in fantasy or you're just like, even if the fourth quarter,

he could just have 25 fantasy points to completely save your week. And I felt the exact same. same way. I was so happy that we haven't talked about this yet, but like, we're doing this competition ringer 107. All the football shows at the ringer have been betting spreads all year in this big competition. Our show is somehow and first, even though we spend three minutes a week on it. This week, we picked five games that we felt good about. We spent some time pick five games. And then at the very end, we're like, you know what, let's just do the opposite. Let's just do the George Costanza.

We're just going to flip it and do the opposite. If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite. Therefore. Yeah. So we're three and one. And I got to say, yeah, Josh Allen is like the most, I'm never betting against Josh Allen. It's just, I love this. This is the most fun I've ever had playing 107 this week. It's just like flipping our picks.

Yeah, because it just goes to show that either we're stupid or all of this is just a coin flip, and nobody knows. Either way, it's great. Either way, I'm having fun. So those are our winners. I feel bad for the Jags. I don't know if we were talking about the Jaggs. We'll get to the Jags in a little bit.

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Artificially made Piece of Art But thank you to the Clankers for that, clank rock. But D.K. What up? Daniel. Dan. What?

Big Dan. Big D. D. D. Bone. Big Dan. The Green Bay Packers, Daniel. Yeah, yeah. They lost 3127 in horrific fashion. As you well know. They ended the season on a five-game losing streak. Matt LaFleur is now three and six in the playoffs.

They have not been to an NFC championship since Aaron Rogers was the quarterback on the Packers. There's rumors circulating that he could get canned, Matt LaFleur. They're in an incredibly difficult division. Micah Parsons, this amazing trade. He just tore his ACL. Kind of the overall Packers landscape, the Jordan Love Matt LaFleur Packers era after this weekend's loss. Fart?

Or shart? I mean, this is borderline shart. This was a horrific loss. I can't imagine what like gymnastics. Packers fans are going to have to go through this offseason to convince themselves to have like good vibes going into next year.

But I mean, obviously, look, I personally don't think they should fire Matt Lafleur. I think he's a good coach. But the fact that people are, it's actually a discussion, I think is wild. Ed policy, he's going to have to meet with our boy Ed, Ed Policy, Mr. Policy.

He's going to have some tough conversations with Mr. Policy. Mr. Policy is going, he's going to have to go to Mr. Policy's office. Ed Policy. President of the backers literally named Ed Paulson. But yeah, I mean, look, there's questions about George Love. I see people on social media talking about how Malik Willis is a better quarterback. That's not great.

You know, the absolute just failure in the second half, they, and this is such a cliche, but it's so true. They played not to lose versus playing to win, which is just the worst. It's just, it's so cowardly and conservative and annoying. Um, there, it's just going to be an incredibly weird off season for this entire team. They don't have a first round pick this year. They don't have a first round pick next year. Um, yeah. I'm going to say it's like it's borderline chart.

Well, you know, a short, if you shart, you got to change something. Literally. You have to change your shorts. They're going to change. I know, I would say at the very least they're going to change some of the coaching staff. I mean, that they, something has to change. I don't, I personally don't think they should fire Matt Laffer. What do you guys land on that?

I don't either. Anytime it's like. Yeah. The second he gets fired, he's the hottest coaching candidate in the league. And John Harbaugh and Baltimore's a little different. He's been there for 20 years. Matt LaFlor, what is the seventh eighth season? They're good every year.

He has a better win percentage than Sean McVeigh. Yes. And Andy Reed. Usually Matt LaFleur wins like 12, 13 games every year. And Sean Peyton. Yeah. He's literally 16th all time in one percentage. They've made the play.

Packers have made the playoffs six or seven years. I think this is a really, really bad. fart, like one of the worst farts of all time. But to Craig's point, this is not a shart. You don't have to change anything. And I don't think you change the coordinators either. I think you'd be lucky to get Jeff Hathley back. Halfley is a head coach candidate.

You don't change anything. You know what you change? You get Michael Parsons back healthy. You get Tucker Kraft back healthy. You get your right tackle Zach Tom back healthy to play in this game. You get Elton Jenkins, the guard back. Like the center Sean Ryan got hurt. Like they had a lot of injuries.

They had so many injuries that when you watch the Packers, I would argue Matt Lafleur is such a good coach. You forgot the Packers had any of those injuries for the first half of a playoff game because they were dominating the Bears so thoroughly. Now, I don't think Matt Lafleur has done everything right because I know that the Bears scored, I believe, 0, 3 and 3 points in the first half versus Green Bay

and almost won all three of those games. And the fact that the Bears were, I can't get over this stat. I think this is maybe my new favorite stat of the entire season after the Jets not picking off the past this year. The Packers, sorry, the Bears literally did not have the lead on offense for a single play versus Green Bay this year and then beat them the last two games. But the Bears did not have the lead on offense for any of the three games they played the Bears. This is a cursed loss, man.

Like Packers fans fucking hate the Bears. It's like they're the big brother. They think the Bears are just this little piece of shit organization. You know, they. This is like when a dad's son like beats him in horse for the first time. Fuck. Exactly. You're like, whoa, whoa, and you reevaluate a whole, you were like midlife crisis.

Yeah, midlife crisis because you lost your son in basketball. You're like going to change anything. And it's like, why don't you just see him do it twice? And I understand, I'm not like, I understand that the Packers probably lost a Super Bowl trip because they kicked the field goal on fourth down at the goal line, down eight to the bucket ears, which was insane. And I understand that Matt LaFleur should have learned it by now. Let me tell you something as a giant's fan.

It is a lot of easier for Matt Lafleur to learn better in. game management practices, better timeout usage and be more aggressive in game plans in the second half of the lead, then find another coach. You could be 16th all time and winning percentage. You morons. If they, like, if the Packers fire him at LaFleur, I think the giant should hire him in 19 seconds. Of course. Just put McManus on a friggin barge out of town or whatever. That's all. He missed three. Yeah, he missed three kicks. He missed an extra point. Two field goals in this game. If you're a Packers fan and you fired LaFleur, who, Who are you hoping to bring in that you can guarantee

as better than him? It's literally just a bunch of people. It's Harbaugh. But like, okay, you still are bringing a play caller. The Harbaugh thing is rotting everyone's brain. The funniest thing that would ever happen is that the Dolphins fire Mike McDaniel to get Harbaugh. And then the Packers fire Matt Liffler to get Harbaugh.

And then John Harbaugh just retires. And it's like, I'm actually going to just take a year for my health. And then all of these teams just desperately wish they could get their coach back. Because again, I know that the Packers have issues. But I just look at Green Bay. I'm like you were wildly injured and I understand there's issues, but it is so much easier to learn that kind of man. You know who was a terrible game manager until like two years ago? Sean McVeigh. Like Sean McVeigh was bad.

Like fourth downs, timeouts. Yeah. Like Matt was learning. It's funny. So was Andy Reid, right? Like Andy Reid, that was part of Andy Reid's whole deal. I have a series. 16 years, Andy Reid was the worst clock manager in the NFL.

Like it like I just, it's so much easier to learn that than try to find a better coach. I'm I I I you don't want to be out here like I throw the baby out with the bathwater kind of thing yeah no but it's the mean with the what is it the del curry thing when del curry you know was going to be single in that whole thread of you don't want to be out you don't want to be out here you got a charcoal ice cream out you don't want to be out single in this world I'm like the but you want to be out apologized to seven years look I apologize to her the woman you love our flowers I was educated in the Pittsburgh Steelers school of don't overreact and the packers it's like sometimes you have a down year. You were injured. You still made the playoffs. You had a bad loss. Run it back.

Everything is pretty good. Like it's annoying in the moment. It sucks. But like you're not going to do any better than this. And there's no secret answer on the coaching market that you're going to find that's going to change things. So it's like he's try again next year. I mean, I actually, he's like one of the best coaches in the end of the other. Try again. Try again. Try again next year. The kicker missed seven points of of kicks. And like, Caleb made the best fourth down throw in like five years. I do. I have a theory. I want to. I have a theory. I want to to run by you guys. Do you think the real like guru play callers and the guys who like have it all in their heads, the McVeys, Shanahan's, whatever, Ben Johnson's LaFleurs, do you think they all suck at

game managing because they're actually just like too obsessed and focused on what play to call next? Yeah, 100%. It's totally a thing. They need to have, there just needs to be a new coach that is like I, all I am is clock guy. I'm just like timeouts and clock guy. That's it 100%. It's a control thing. But like, no, it's absolutely why it's any. I did a whole story in this for The ringer. Shout out the ringer.com. great website and like I talked to like Steve Mariucci about why Andy Reid sucked with the clock which and Steve Murci shared an office with Andy Reid for the Packers and they talked about it and there's all these reasons but the short answers yeah it's really hard to sit

there and do all these plays and do everything and like the only it's like trying to park your car when the music is really loud you know or you're just like that it's just like that yeah you got to turn the music off so you can park the only play calling coach who's actively good at managing the clock is Sean Payton because he was the Parcells guy. That's science great. And he probably text while he drives. You know what I mean? He could probably multitask. D.K., you're right. I'm not, I'm laughing because that was a funny analogy, but that's real. Like, you've ever been in a car with somebody else trying to park in music's loud?

And they're like, can you please turn the music down? I'm trying to parallel park. Oh my God. I'm on Wilshire Boulevard right now trying to parallel park. It's the fucking pressure I'm under right now. Dude, the first time I drove Jackie's, my fiance of Jackie's parents anywhere. Oh, that's parallel park. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and like a very, like a big street.

Like one of them like five lane streets and I had a parallel park on the side. If you don't get any of horns. No, that's a nightmare. Nailed it. Nightmare situation. And I played it cool. And then they were like, oh, well done. I was like, just met them.

It was great. I do. I think I am an elite city driver. Yeah. Okay. Go on. Go on. First job out of college.

I lived in New York City and I had to drive a van around for the show America's next stop model. And I would drive. Did you hit the van into a car on your first day of work? It was in a hotel. Don't say that. I'm going to get, I'm going to get Hertz. Hertz is going to come after me. But yeah, I did that.

I did do that. I did do that. I think statute of limitations. I've grown. It's like the bears. It's like they had, you know, they had them in the first half. He's inoculated under the pressure of. Dude, I was whipping a van around Brooklyn, New Jersey, Manhattan.

Hell yeah. With this woman, like, it's pouring rain, snowing. I'm trying to like get a rug into the car. I got the emergency lights on. What TV show? Well, I was driving for America's next top model. And then the woman, Jennifer Greenberg, shouts out to her, helped me get the PA job on Unbreakable. Kimmy Schmidt, which is a Netflix show.

Craig, I 100% subscribe to, shout out to everyone who's had a job where you have to drive around downtown somewhere. Fucking all day. I had a job. Especially since it's right now. It's a right of passage. I had this job coming out of college where I was like working for this litigation support company. So I was just delivering documents all day, driving around downtown Seattle. and like whipping her out like crossing four lanes to get to like a you spot like an empty

loading zone and you just like flip a ui like it's it's intense out there man it's a right of pass it's why i don't understand how they're training waymos right now for manhattan i'm like that there are no rules like the only way you can drive in manhattan is if you know how to break the rules i don't know how they're going to do that no it's it's you can't program that it's a lot contact i got hit by a cab once what what you should see the cab that that was that was that was actually whatever instead of Christmas Eve. Yeah, that year, yeah. You should see the cat was.

You know, there was this Dane Cook joke about like some guy he's getting hit and his shoes came off. And I was like, I don't remember. Anyway, it was like when I was, when I was nine, remember iTunes? Dane Cook had that big album, bought it with your iTunes gift cards. Is it vicious circle? Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, listen to a Dane Cook in seventh grade. Never thought about him ever again.

Anyway, I'm like 24 years old, very drunken for Grand Central. I get walloped by a cab because I was jam walking. And I land straight on the cab. I'm fine. And I'm like, ah! And the driver was like, whoa. And then I like, get me out of here. Pista Mista Mista.

And then he like stopped. He does leave us alone. I land and my shoes are off. And I land and I look around. Knock your shoes off. My first thought, I swear to God, my first thought was, oh my God, Dane Cook was right. Whoa.

Wow. I gathered my shoes and I ran. And he was like, are you okay? And I thought it was, I was going to get in trouble. And he was thrilled that I was leaving. He couldn't leave it. Do you untie your shoe before you put it on? or you always tied and you just jam your foot in their guy?

You could, but it's, well, now I have ankle problems. So now it's like, jam your foot in their guy. I've learned in my 20s, all I did was jam my foot in. In my 30s, I'm trying to. You're a jam. You give jam by you. Yeah, you're giving jamming. DK, I think you untie the shoe and tie it.

Oh, I should be a, dude, Craig, for probably like a solid 15 years of my life. I do wear shoes with laces now, but I was slip-ons only, like the van slip-ons. I was like, I don't ever want to have to tie it. high my shoes. I hate doing that. You got to bend over and stuff. You got to sit down. I do, I have shoes now with laces. I kind of grew up a little, you know. I'm still reeling from Craig saying he puts his socks on before his pants and then like

took a slate. This is, this has become a thing. And then my army, my fantasy text thread. My army came over the mountain and took over and everybody's on my side now. Makes sense. It makes sense to put the socks on first. Craig, somebody said a text that are in our group chain. Shout out Pat the other day. And it was like, I put my socks on before my underwear today. And I was like, what?

That's what are we doing? That's aggressive. Psycho behavior. I think the only issue with that is if somebody caught an image of you doing that, that's the worst thing you never seen. That's what exactly what I said. I was like, the imagery of that is horrific. He said he did it standing up, which also is kind of impressive, like good balance.

What's impressive about that? You can put your socks on standing up. It's like kind of hard. D.K., I think you could have done that in your 20s. I saw you had an earring piercing and everything. Yeah. Fair enough. I've always been very inflexible, though.

So it's actually kind of hard. What are we talking about? I don't know. Putting your socks on without sitting down. No, I was talking about it. Is some crime in terms of NFL? So who's going to have a longer offseason? The Green Bay Packers are the Eagles, D.K.

We were talking about game management. That's what we were talking about. Oh, right. They're going to see, we should manage the clock. We're great at it. Yeah, DK. I want you to do your ranking of who's going to have the longest off season of the teams who lost. Right.

So the Packers, are up there. I think the Eagles I don't know. I can't I honestly can't tell who's going to have a longer offsyia more like insane things are going to be up in the air. I think it's Philadelphia. Like dramatic. It's got to be Philly just because they're always drama there. But it's close.

I feel like it's close. They're probably not going to do that much in Green Bay honestly. No, it's Green Bay and here's why. Yeah. Philadelphia is that they're happiest when they can complain about their team. and being angry about the Eagles is in and of itself catharsis for Philadelphia and the Northeast degenerates. And Green Bay, like the Packers being in a state of flux is a catastrophe for Wisconsin and anyone in the Midwest. But they're not in a state of flux. That's what we're trying to tell them. But that, but having to have arguments with other Packers fans in a, like,

Eagles fans just scream at each other. It's hard for Packers, Packers fans are much nicer. Eagles players just scream at each other. There you, Gary, that's what I'm saying, because they adopt the culture of the city. It's harder for conflict in the Midwest. It's different Craig. It's just a different animal. Can you imagine Philly radio tomorrow? My God. It's going to be 4th of July.

So we're saying that they're not going to have the longest offseason because there's a lot of content for Philly now. Well, I guess simply put is the Eagles fans, the fix will be easier, which is you are going to get a new offensive coordinator. And if that guy's good, that's like half of it. It's like don't have

A.J. Brown be literally the lowest slot rate in entire league. It's like, hey, watch the 2023 tape. Do that. That's a good start. I here's here. I think there's going to be more big questions in Philly by far than there is in Green Bay. I 100. What do you do? What do we do with Jalen Hertz? Yeah, I guess. Also I'm in 2020, not 2023. Don't come at me. But you're, that's what do we do with AJ Brown's gone. Lane Johnson's 35 years old. You have to get a new offensive coordinator. People don't like Nick Siriani. Like I there's a lot. They can't run the ball. That's fair. Well, you know what's funny. Teams that can use. AJ Brown. It's like the teams that have a young quarterback who don't need a receiver,

like the Raiders, but I'm like, the funniest, the best spot for AJ Brown is the freaking Titans, which is funny. They should send it back. No, don't send it back. DK, we did, I think we can talk about this now. After the Super Bowl, we did another episode and Jalen Hertz, and we talked to, you were upset, and you don't do this much, but you were upset at the sheer volume of Eagles fans that were angry with you their Super Bowl episode because you had the audacity to just say the Eagles were one of the most talented teams of all time and you listed like all their players on defense and offense. And you listed Jalen Hertz like 14th.

No, here. Eagles fans, but during a 90-second video about how good the team was, and all you got was Eagles fans screaming at you that Jalen Hertz was underrated Super EG. That aged really well, D.K., for you. It aged incredibly well. Should I get back?

Should I dive into the comment section? Repost it. Flip it around. No, the background of that is, we did that, you know, breakout where it was basically like, look, here's the secret to winning Super Bowl. Usually it's having the best quarterback.

This year, it was having the best offensive line, best receivers, best defense, blah, blah, blah. And then at the very end, I said, and also having a great quarterback in Jalen Hurst, but that wasn't actually included in the video. So for literally like eight months, like Eagles fans were just in dimensions, like telling me I'm a fucking idiot.

I'm curious to see what that sounds like. And I'm not saying this has never happened, but I can't immediately think of one. Has any athlete had something quite like what just happened, Jalen Hertz, where he was getting paid $250 million, got a big contract. Wins the Super Bowl,

gets Super Bowl MVP, makes two Super Bowl, makes two of the Super Bowls in three years, wins one, and basically has his fan base clamoring for him to be respected among the NFL's elite. And then not even a full year. 11 months later,

you're going to have a portion of his fan base to admit. He's like the problem. I don't know if there's ever been a runout. Like maybe in the NBA, can't remember a runout where everyone's like, he should be considered as good. Why don't you talk about Mahomes the way you, why don't you talk about Harts the way you talk about Mahomes, Lamar, Herbert? Now they got a wandering eye for Tanner McKee. Yeah. Now it's like Justin Herbert on the Eagles would win 15 games a year. Yeah. Anyway, I know. There's not a lot of cops. Like I don't,

like Russell Wilson, but it took a while. That's who that's who I kind of had in my mind, Craig, when we were talking about. Like, for the longest time, Seuk fans were very sensitive about the commentary around Russell Wilson in terms of like people saying he was propped up by his defense people saying he was propped up by his run game which there was definitely shades of truth truth in that but it took like a very long time

basically it took so long that Russell Wilson eventually I think there was that there was a small section of the Let Russ Cook era where people were like oh this guy's really awesome but it lasted for like three weeks and then and then he just like went downhill after that he was traded right

after that to Denver Sean Payton hated him. He was traded again. And that was about it. There's so many similarities to me between the Eagles and the Legion of Boom. There's so many similarities. But it's just, yeah, I mean,

if you think about just the personalities, the giant personalities in the room, the talent. Yeah. It's funny, though. The Legion of Boom broke because of that. Because they lost a Super Bowl. Patriots.

Yeah. Interception. The Eagles don't have that. They just won. What is their interception? They did lose a Super Bowl. But this season. Then they won one.

If you had just watched this season of the Eagles, and then I was like, they made the Super Bowl, you'd be like, oh, they must have lost, right? That's why they all ate each other. They do have that energy. I honestly kind of forget the inciting incident. You know what's funny? I'm not saying this is why, but in retrospect,

this story is funny. Hertz after he won the Super Bowl, went to Michael Jordan. And I'm not going to, like, quote Michael Jordan, but it seems like what he told, Jaila Hertz was like, what's the secret? They played golf. I also just want to hear Jalen Hertz actually speak. But, man, can imagine playing golf with Jordan?

Oh my God. Can you play golf hearts. Hope you bring a lot of cash. Michael Jordan on his North Carolina golf course he designed specifically for his swing. Yeah. They're just all crazy dog leg right. And he only plays against lefties. I think the gist of it.

And don't quote me on this because like it's it's hurts kind of alluding to it. But I believe the message from Jordan was, you're not defending anything. He's like, everyone's going to call you the Eagles the defending champions. He's like, you're not defending anything. You are that you were the champions. you were the 2024-2025 champions. This is a new season. You leave it all behind.

And I, the ring ceremony, if you noticed it, the Eagles like didn't go out there for the trophy present, the rings and everything. The Eagles, like, didn't acknowledge that they were the champions when they did that first game versus the Cowboys. They got completely overshadowed that this happened because Jaylon Carter spent on deck, Prescott, before the first play the season.

But the Eagles, like, didn't really accept the way teams do. And like, oh, yeah, were the champs they just kind of didn't go out there for it what a weird team and it's and it's kind of backfired i think it would be better off if they were like we're the champs like that probably would have played better man i don't know um maybe nothing could have saved them anyway eagles have a long offseason packers do i don't think the jaguars off seasons as long the jaguars made more progress they still feel like they're ascending they kind of they the way that they lost it was like they could have won that game very easily.

It's not like they played. Chip on their shoulder. It does feel like you had a home playoff game, which is kind of incredible and you squandered it in a close game. For how good Lawrence was playing up, I mean, what did they win, eight straight games? Like the fact that he had a bad pick to start the game and a bad pick to end of the game. That it's a winnable year.

It stings. I think the reason I'm not that heartbroken for them is that it. Trevor Lawrence is good enough. Yeah, but Trevor Lawrence, week 11 on had like the most touchdowns in the NFL. He was the number one pick. He was supposed to be a Mount Rushmore quarterback prospect with Elway and Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck. That's the kind of guy with Liam Cohen. He's 26 years old that that team can be in it every year.

It's the teams that don't have that kind of quarterback where you're like, oh, you squander the season. I will say, I think the biggest thing for the Jags other than just, you know, like everyone, they need cornerbacks and stuff. But I think Travis Hunter needs to be a cornerback. And I'm not getting. I, like they, after watching the Jags's offense, Jacoby Myers just got a $60 million extension he has to play. Parker Washington is like better. Fricking good, man. They cannot bench.

He's really good. You will lose the locker room if you bench Parker Washington for Travis Hunter. He's too good. Like they actually cannot bench Parker Washington team. No, they have to bring Parker Washington back. And then Brian Thomas is the first round of pick. I genuinely think Travis Hunter will enter next season as a receiver four. And he should be in all the defensive meetings.

They need him on defense. I don't think that's even quite like I think he's LCL surgery or recovering from the injury. I think the Jaguars probably end up letting Travis ETN leave. We can leave that. We can hit that more as free agency comes and we get closer to that. But I think Bayshel Toot and did. for the Jaggs was amazing and watching them. They don't need Travis ETSN.

That money needs to go elsewhere. But yeah, the Jaguars are fine. The teams I want to get into right now are a couple of these MVP candidates who gave us the ick. Yeah. Specifically this Rams Panthers game that was way better than it deserved to be.

I mean, the Rams like the Rams were 10 point favorites again, even though they lost to Carolina. And they almost lost to Carolina again. The Rams won 30-4-31. We flipped it. Flip-ed Philadelphia. D-K. Flip, Philadelphia.

were you impressed enough with the way the Rams salvaged and won this game that it overcame the ick of the Rams almost losing to Carolina again yeah I think obviously look Stafford made an incredible play at the end of the game to Colby Parkinson's who made an insane catch went up and skyed up and got it pirouetted and then went into the end zone like to me that was like okay this team is still frightening but it is very bizarre how the Panthers matched up with this team and And like Stafford looked human at times through, through a bad pick. You know, I, I, I just don't really understand why the Panthers are able to compete with this Rams team. They did it. They beat them earlier in the season.

And then they gave them a real run for their money here. They probably, or they came very close to winning this game. But no, I think the, the Rams are still to me, like one of the scariest teams in the playoffs. I think they'll be fine. This was just like, for whatever reason, the Panthers match up well with them. Yeah. I think there's,

a little bit of like Seahawks fear in you because I don't know. I think you were turned off. That's about as bad of a win as you can build. Like that was, they should have kicked the shit out of that team. And almost losing to the Panthers like twice in six weeks is pretty bad. It's bizarre. Also, like I do not think if I were a Rams fan right now,

I'd be feeling good heading into Chicago. Stafford's also beat up. He had a finger injury. I mean, the stats of like him before and after the finger injury was very clear that he was the fact that even though he had that great drive at the end of the game that they moved down pretty quickly. I don't know. To me, it's like the cornerbacks on the Rams can't guard anybody. Like Jalen Coker and Tet McMillan are dicing up Flat Stanley and the rest of the cornerbacks on

the Rams. Emmanuel Forbes Flat Stanley, who is again, the Rams are playing and starting a quarterback who weighs like 160 pounds. Yeah. Hey, he gained some weight, man. He gained a few pounds. Yeah, he had a protein bar before the game. Again, yeah. The special teams like continues to be bad. They fired their special teams head or coach in the middle of season. I don't know. It's concerning. Devante Adams certainly got concussed. I would love to talk about that later. He came back in the game.

Actually looked like he got knocked out on that ball on the sideline. Puka, as we all, you know, hit the weekly button saying this, but like got the shit kicked out of him. And then Stavrida has his finger injuries. I'm like, them barely getting through Carolina, they're super beat up. I would be nervous if I was a Rans fan. The bookends of this game, the Rams looked unbelievable. The opening two drives, the Rams were amazing. Pooka Nukua had, I think, the first four pass.

the Stafford threw were to Puka. It was like a knife through butter. It was like this is going to be like a long, this is going to be like a 40 to 10 game. It looked like in the beginning. And that's also how the Rams looked on the last drive. But honestly, everything in between was pretty bad. It was kind of amazing how much the Stafford finger play kind of like hitting in a helmet

or hand or something affected it because Stafford could still throw. But he started the game eight for eight and then he went like two for his next 10. Puka, he had the touchdown of Pooka at the end of the half. Tuka just dropped. I was a little amazed how much that rattled Puka. Puka wouldn't go into halftime. Sean McVey had to talk to him. He was apoplectic on the sideline.

Yeah. Well, no, not apoplectic. He was distraught. Like catatonic. Catatonic. Pooka was sad. Sad puka. And frankly, the, look, you could go ahead and say, look, the Rams were going to go.

And it was like the Panthers were played well and Brayshund played really well. And I don't want to take it. And they were Bryce Young. He played really well, blah, blah, blah. I actually kind of think the Rams won this game because J.C. Horn collided with the linebacker sharer list on a play and they both left. And then the Rams went down and won. And the Rams couldn't do dick in that game.

in that game until J.C. Horn, who was the top 10 pick in the draft ahead of Patrick Certain, left. And only when he left, did the Rams do anything? That's the part that concerns me. Yeah. Is I kind of don't know if the Rams win if that didn't happen. I know. Both Horn and Mike Jackson were great for Carolina.

They were everywhere and causing a lot of problems. Yeah, I don't know. It's like, you know, a month ago, six weeks ago, I would have picked the Rams to win the Super Bowl. But the cornerback, lack of talent, the special teams issues, kind of how beat up they are. I think there's just like they now seem like kind of one of the other teams in the

league when midway through the season, I think they were the only team that everybody felt really good about. Yeah, that's a good point, Craig. I mean, the corner, the cornerback situation, the inability to clamp down on opposing receivers and like a catastrophically bad special teams unit are pretty big vulnerabilities. It was an ick that,

um, I mean, one, it was two icks. The Panthers were banged up. Like, Ikea Kwanu, their left tackle is probably their best line, and got hurt on like the second drive. And then Robert Hahn, who's like, maybe their best guard was in and out of the game. And he was like not 100%. And they still couldn't get consistent.

They couldn't make Bryce Young look small. This is what the Niners did in a minute of football. Like the defenses, when you're able to get pressure on him, you can contain Bryce Young. You kind of make them look small. And they weren't able to consistently do that. The Panthers are weirdly situated to beat the Rams in some ways because all the receivers are so big.

Ted Monroe Macmillan, 6.5, and Jalen Coker, 63, and Legate 6.4, and Tommy trembles big, and so in a way, they're really well-sized to do it. But I, it's just a bunch of things. It's the Rams punt unit isn't good. It's like Harrison-Movius, honestly, was better in this one, but there's just all these

flaws in the Rams special teams, combined with the fact that I wish the defensive line could have taken advantage at Carolina more. And also, Carolina didn't, they made a ton of mistakes. Like, they came, like, Trevor ETI, and Travis's brother took two different punts off his face, and the Rams couldn't capitalize. So it was a little concerning. I also do wonder if McVeigh actually wanted

to save some pitches. I kind of wonder if McVeigh wanted to win without showing a bunch of cards. And I think he pulled the three tight end personnel out begrudgingly. And that was really how the Rams did end up moving the ball sometimes. But we'll see. Because we're going to get Rams bears and we're going to have Stafford once again cold weather. And we're going to see what happens when Stafford at 38 years old with his back injury lands on the frozen-ass Chicago turf. That game's going to be incredible. There's going to be a lot of points in that game. And honestly, you better be a Bears fan because I assume you don't want to see the Rams in the playoffs after Darnold has thrown like how many interceptions and sacks. Darnal must be up to 20 sacks in three games versus

the Rams in 2025. Yeah, Craig said at the beginning, I have Seattle fear in me. I don't want to face the Rams. The Rams have been like the Thorne and the Seahawks sides. It'd be pretty sweet though if you beat the Niners and then the Rams. I mean, sure. Yeah, it would be great. It would be an awesome NFC championship game if the Seahawks get to that spot. But, but. Speaking of awesome games. Yeah, Patriots Chargers, the best game of the weekend. What hour are we at here? Before we start talking about it.

DK, who gave you, if you had voted for this guy for MVP, who made you feel dumber? Stafford, almost losing to Carolina, or Drake May not getting the Patriots a touchdown until 53 minutes into the game? I think 75% of the game, I would have felt dumber about voting for May because he, I mean, he looked out of sorts.

for a lot of the game but i thought he played really well down like down the stretch got on what they needed to do or did what he did what he needed to do i didn't think it was his best game but i at you know taking the full game into account he played all right he played fine i think stafford engineering that game winning drive was pretty impressive though staffer with the finger injury doing what he did and that throw was insane the no look thing there was like four lead changes in the game yeah i mean he had some no look stuff that was crazy yeah may was fine i mean he had two fumbles He lost one. He had the pick, which was tipped.

I don't think he was like especially impressive in this game, but he did have a couple really big runs, which has kind of been the story of his season. He had the great touchdown on Harry. Henry was like a beautiful, perfect pass. The way he finished. He also missed Austin Hooper, who bullied you in the high school or whatever.

He didn't bully me. Missed him for a touchdown. He bullied me. He bullied you about crashing the van. He has no idea about that. We like to change the story to he bullied. He was busy in the NFL. He was in the NFL when I was crashing the van.

You stuffed you to walk. The Patriots, you know what? Let's be honest. Everyone's heard it enough about the freaking Patriots my entire life. And we're going to hear about it more. I don't care. It's a way, like, it's kind of just like the regular season

where I'm like, their chargers are terrible. The offensive line was so bad. They could do literally nothing. I still don't know how I feel about New England. They should have probably won by more. The only analysis I'll give on this game is that the Chargers, other than that play, Herbert got rocked and gave it the ball.

I actually think you could do the charges entire season in one play. And it was the last play the Chargers had in this game. which was when it was fourth in an 11 or something. And Milton Williams for the Patriots, the defensive tackle, splits Bradley Bozeman in the center and Zion Johnson, the right guard. I'm getting it backwards now. And like they literally swapped those guys the entire summer

because the Chargers interior line was so bad that they were like, we're going to switch Zion Johnson to center and we're going to put Bradley Bowesman at guard. And they tried it and they sucked. Switched it back and they sucked. Flip it back, they sucked. They're like, you know what? We'll keep everyone where it was.

And so the, like, yes, all the tackles get hurt. Yes, the Chargers had seven or eight iterations of left tackle. They had the right tackle. They had 29 offensive line combination. Wow. Exactly. So yes, all that happened. But what's the reason the charges and Herbert, Herbert was the most hit quarterback this year.

And even though Jim Harbaugh is like, I will do anything to protect Herbert. Herbert's gotten so the shit kicked out of him is because it's not just the tackles got hurt. It's that the Chargers did not pay money to. to fix the interior of their offensive line. That was the weakness. They thought they could coach it. They failed. Those guys stayed healthy all year.

And even with the tackle switches, they're the worst part of the line. That's the point. Is even the sixth string left, the fifth string left tackle, Jamari Salier, is better at left tackle than the starting center

and starting left guard Zion Johnson was the whole year. And for all that, it's funny that the original problem the Chargers had, all summer was the one that ended their season. And they just need the tackles to come back, but they need to swap probably all three of those interior guys. So, um, the Chargers were pretty pathetic in this game.

It was a hard watch. It was, it was incredible. They were the team. They were the team. You thought the Panthers would be like, how did this team make the playoffs? Every pass on the Chargers felt like the last play of the game when it's like fourth and 30. Yeah.

And the quarterback has to just like run around for a while. Like that was, that's what every pass is like. Or the receiver. Something weird is the Chargers, if they had won in Week 17 versus Houston, which the game was closer than you think. The Chargers still has shot at the one seat in the AFC, which I think is just incredible because they suck. So it was a tough year for them.

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Call 1888-789-77777 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. Let's get to some other categories here. starting with intrusive thoughts Craig what intrusive thoughts did you have watching the wildcourt games this weekend this shit is way better without Mahomes and the Chiefs hell yeah

I'm having a blast yeah I love that the Chiefs aren't here I love that every game I'm like I have no idea who's gonna win this is gonna be crazy I don't know who I want I don't know who the villain is like the Eagles are gone too this is the best

head life get better I love that the Chiefs are not like 15 and 2 and it's like who's gonna get through my homes I'm having a blast without him right now Now, it's okay that the chiefs are taking a year off. I'm happy to have them come back. But right now, I'm having more fun without the chiefs.

Letting the NFL feel life fallow for a year has working very well. Yeah. Unpredictability. I'm having a blast. It's a great call. It's a great call. D.K., what intrusive thoughts did you have? I had a few.

First off, the Pope, who is a Chicago native. Yeah. Big Bears fan, what is he, White Sox fan? White Sox. They have a mural of him at the White Sox. State in the Washington World Series. I just wanted, I just wanted to picture the Pope at 5.30 in the morning, like, drinking some of the sacrament there, like his hidden stash of the blood of Jesus Christ,

celebrating the Bears win. Like, it was 5.30 in the morning, Vatican time. I don't know if he's in Vatican right now. But I want to know if he, like, you know, did he cancel his entire day of meetings and stuff? Like, did he get ahead of this? It's a good point because we talked a lot about the Steelers having a priest bless their end zone in the Ravens Mr. Kick. We haven't talked a ton

about the Pope being from Chicago. The actual Pope. Like one happens once and then suddenly the Bears are the most miraculous team in the history of the NFL with literally more comeback wins than any team ever.

As soon as the Pope is from Chicago. Yeah. There's no better example of divine intervention than what the hell is happening in Chicago. It's kind of proof God is real. Like we should probably get on that. Yeah. Somebody show Ricky Jervais

what's happening with the Bears right now. switching gears a little. I know that we've talked about this on our show before, but I need to bring it up again because it just blows my mind every time I see in NFL commercial breaks are just chock full of these. These new drugs that have come out on the market and they're like obviously trying to advertise and get people to talk to their doctors about them. But like they legitimately.

And look, I know there's laws that say they have to do this because whatever. some of these drugs spend like a full minute talking about the horrific ways it's going to make you give you the worst possible death imaginable there was one i don't remember what drug it was i probably should have written this down but it was literally one of the side effects was bleeding between the anus and genitals that could be fatal between fatal bleeding of your taint the taint bleed to death how do you bleed out of your hair your taint? You don't want to know.

All right. How do you, how do you, how do you bleed? Isn't the taint, though, is the whole idea that it's in between. There's nothing there. It's just, it's just skin. How are you bleeding out of that? Craig, I would encourage you not to do it. I would encourage you not to do any Google searches.

I think that exact ad was playing and I was at my wife's house, my wife's parents' house, I should say. And during it, like, my mother-in-law was like, what are we listening to? what is this dude they legitimately the the arc of these of these commercials is like people having a great time whatever they're like you know sitting in bathtubs holding hands or whatever and then they spend a solid two-thirds of the advertisement which is costing millions of dollars just listing off horrific side effects like the worst side effects you could think up for like the sort of the the solid two-thirds of the commercial. It's just absurd. I can't believe these work. But apparently they do.

We had somebody email in saying these are like really effective commercials. Dude, well, I'll tell you. It's just wild. I had my first man, I'm over 30 years old moment. A couple weeks ago,

I was watching the pharmaceutical ad. I'll say the drug. I should talk to my talk to my talk. It was for DuPixin. And it was telling me about DuPixant. And I was like, holy shit, I think DuPixit might be able to help me.

Should I talk to my doctor about DuPixen? Wait, what's DuPixit? My esophagus thing, like apparently can help with that and it was just FDA approved or whatever. I don't know. They were talking about, they like said the thing that I have. What is the side effects? Oh my God.

Do I need to talk to my doctor about you picks it? That's the surest sign that you're getting old. Where am I? Please email us again. I think someone said it like two drugs in a fake one or something. Email us side effects from these things. Skyrizy. Skyrizy.

I have got a good song. Skyrisi triverium. I don't know. Yeah, email us the drugs. I wouldn't know these drugs. Emails at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. I had a 30 year old moment too, though, today. I'm embarrassed because like now Craig were of the age that the commercials are for us.

So it's kind of like the joke at the halftime show. I was like, man, these guys were old. And then like Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dr. Trigger. Like, yeah, thank God's young now. You're like, oh, my God, they're in their 60s. Like, I'm old. My version of that today was, I was just during a commercial break, I think Eagles Niners, I'm kind of just like, I don't know, checking something during the commercial break.

And I'm kind of like bopping my head. I'm like, oh, okay, like, what is this? I look up and it's the freaking TurboTax made like an anime song or something. Like they ripped off K-pop Demon Hunters for a TurboTex ad. And I was like, I was so, I feel like a part of me died. Dude, there's a, there's a Taco Bell song right now. That one's good. I'm loving.

That one's great. That's art. Tender love in care makes life worth living. Tender love and care. That song's good. That song is good. There's no shame in that one. Oh, anyway.

One more. Please. Related to doctors. What we need to like upgrade. It feels like this was introduced into the NFL as a stopgap measure because at one point we had to figure out the concussion situation and how players could be checked for concussions. So the NFL's sort of ad hoc, we're just going to throw this thing on the sideline and

this will help us with our process of going through concussion checks. The blue tent. Can we get an overhaul on this? Like this is a $25 billion industry and they have like those little tents you take to the beach. It blew over during the Eagles Bears game. It's just like blew away. Somebody's like $90 massage table in there. There's like some dad trying to yank it out of the trunk of his minivan.

You got to put the stakes in the ground. Damn it, Marie. You folded it wrong. What's without? I can't get these poles to sit. You get the kids to stop badgering me. I'm trying to get the 10 out of the trunk. You know what I think they should do?

Well, I started thinking about the Matt Stafford airstream that he had in the, in the preseason where he's like doing this mysterious like back treatments. But more realistically, you know, when you go to, you go to concerts these days and they have like the trailers that turn in that are just bathrooms. And they're like, I mean, it's like, this is going to the Ritz Carlton compared to going in a porta potty. These things are nice. They're like air condition.

They smell good. There's running water. in those things. It's freaking crazy. Why can't the NFL have like something like that instead of this blue tent that they only have one of them too? Like there's lines into the blue tents. Just get the MRI machine out on the field. Why do we have a little plastic blue tent? Why don't you have something permanent? Why does it have to put the blue tent up every time someone goes in? It doesn't even matter in the playoffs. They don't acknowledge the blue tent in the playoffs. I feel like they kind of just push it to the side. Again, I can't heart this enough. Devonte Adams was, I think,

out. Yeah. And 10 minutes later in the game, they don't, they don't care about the blue tent in the playoffs. There are certainly fewer players in the blue tent. There's no question about that. They were like Josh Allen went to the tent. They checked him for a concussion. He didn't have one. I'm like, I would have bet my house that Josh Allen didn't have a concussion and the wild card rabbit. Also, like when the blue tent blew over, you kind of realize how small they are. Like, those are not big tents. Roger Sherman made this point on, on social media that was like, he kind of always pictures, you know, in Harry Potter, how, like, when you go into, like, the magic tents, it, like, turns into this gigantic, like, cavernous tent with, like, six rooms,

and it just looks like a little teeny tent. Dude, I was thinking about that. What game was it this weekend where there was, like, a line for the tent? What game was that? They were stamping your wrist on the way. Oh, is Kyle Hamilton collided to Lowy Gilman, and Carl Hammond is the best player in defense, and he's waiting for the others Raven to get out of the tent. And I'm like, this is the problem.

There's a lie. Craig, do the Bill Hader, the hottest club in town for the tent. Oh, Stefan. New York's hottest club is the blue tent. It's got everything. A white folding table, weird coaches, Brian Dayball. Brian Daywall's in there. So good.

My intrusive thought today was, did you guys see during Sunday football, the Patriots Chargers thing? There was all this stuff about Justin Herbert's wristband, which Chris Collins were nailed. Oh, yeah. This was a good point. flopping and he's running. That bugs me too.

And it's Velcro so he runs and it's just flopping everywhere. You got to do a slip on like D.K. My intrusive thought was why you're why can't we just fix that? Just as a rubber gets paid $50 million a year. Can't you just get like a rubber band to go over it? Dude, he said they were like got a rubber band in every play. He likes to look at both sides. What are you going to do?

No, but he, they were like, can't you fix it? He's like, I try to reset it, but we can't, it can't be done. And I was like, I'm positive. We have the technology to do something about it. They, I've seen that charger facility. They have a brick oven pizza oven with the Chargers logo on it. And they don't have a fucking wristband that Justin Herbert can use. That's a good point.

That's weird. It is very weird. That's a bad look. That's all. Just like work on that. There's some homework. It's not aerodynamic. It always bugs me when they're running around and things fucking

flopping all over the place. It's like when you're driving into your like tarp gets loose and it's just flapping at like stressful stressful levels. Come on. Figure that out. Tie that down. Strap it down. Look, I'm nothing. I'm nothing if I'm not open minded. Okay. I know where this is. I would like to give credit where credit is due. And I thought Tom Brady was a lot better today. I think this was the best game Brady's ever done, ever called. I think he should get a drug test. They're sending, they're sending a drug test to his locker at right now. Because he's not on drugs, he can't go on air. I mean, all of the Golden Globes were tonight, and there were stars up there joking that, you know,

oh, they forgot to take their beta blocker before giving their acceptance speech. Brady, the beta blocker was working nicely for Brady. He was so much calmer, I thought. His voice was several octaves lower. Yes, he wasn't yelling. He wasn't doing the like, KB, Zach on third down, Katie.

He was just talking, like an oral person. I think someone sent him our show, because Craig, like, seven days ago made fun of Brady for always, like, yelling into a microphone, like he was on speaker with his parents or something. That was on Bill's pod. And I think someone, sent that to Tom Brady because now he just doesn't do that anymore.

So you know, he was 100 times better. You don't think he had seen a single criticism until last week? I don't. He fixed you. You went on Bill's show and said he yells. He's been yelling for two years and then seven days later. He just stopped doing it. I think he saw you.

Well, that'd be great. And you know what? It paid off. I thought he was, I thought he was way better. Tom, great job. Thanks for taking feedback. Tom Brady today was what we thought Tom Brady being.

announcer would be the whole time, which was honestly, I think him talking about through footballs in the win was some of the best announcing I've ever heard. Like, his whole thing about you can't, the point of the ball going up too high, it's going to sail and you have to keep it lower was dead on. Every time he talked about the Eagles needing tempo was right, he nailed the final play of the game was he was dead right about what Sala was going to do at defense. Like, Brady was had the perspective of something that nobody else in the world could really deliver. Like, that's what we thought. He was amazing. I thought this was by far the best game he's ever nails. I agree. He, he, He did a good job.

The part where he was talking about, as you said, the throwing in the wind and he was like, sometimes you throw in the bottom of your hand around the ball makes like a V, but if it's windy, it should become out like a sea. And I was like, wow.

And then I could totally picture how he throws the football. Yeah. And it was always with the sea. Yeah. For whatever reason. And yeah, that was pretty good.

Dude, there's a video on YouTube of Tom Brady on his own channel just like how to throw football. And I just watched it because you should, I don't know, I figured I should probably know I threw a football from Tom Brady. You feel like you know now?

No, it fixed my golf swing. I shit you not. The football advice fixed your golf swing? Watching Tom Brady's video on how to, he says in the middle of it, it's like your golf swing. And I was like, oh my God, it is like my golf swing. I realized what I was doing wrong. I went out the next day, I added 30 yards to my drive just watching Tom Brady. Is that before after you and I played like an info.

Before the way I hit it, I was. Because you were piping your drives with me. It's Tom Brady helped me. Tom Brady added 25 yards to my drive. So, what is serious? A real relationship we have. have with him now you saw the clip of him he saw the clip of us dude i literally was like because you're like you know throwing a football and i was like oh my god i just put the hands down and then you swing

you're like oh it's the same thing i can just picture high fits so clearly swinging a driver like it's just it's just clear in my mind it is exactly what you think it is just jam my golf shoes on no time yeah he's got like his like his back heel on one of his shoes is like folded into the shoe. Let's never bothered to fix it. It may look unorthodox. He pipes it. So you got to be the phone.

Tom Brady, thank you. It's whistling off the tea. Any, any referee moments bother you guys today? Nobody seemed to be as upset as I was about this. But two different games today with hands to the face against the quarterback,

just not called. There was one in the- Very obvious. Chargers game. Like Herbert got smacked in the face. Right. It's a crucial third down. What about a first down?

It wasn't even the replay Like the live play itself I noticed it Herbert immediately is like Look it up at the ref pointing at his helmet Like hey this guy obviously hit me in the face Nothing nothing And then the broadcast is like yeah

I missed call They missed that Sometimes I wonder if replay assist is like taking a piss Just I just don't understand Well we need people who don't piss We need Scott Hanson doing replay Scott Hanson should be doing the freaking red zone I just there's one game on

I understand what's the early window And the dirty secret is there's eight games on And they're Disney There's one game. It's the playoffs. What are you doing? I think it happened. I think it was Josh Allen happened to it. I just like, I'm like, I don't know what. By the letter of the law, that's a penalty. So I totally agree.

I want to go to the Lucille Bluth. I don't understand the stat and I won't respond to it award, a.k.a the best stat today. And I want to just note the Sequin Barclay, one play before he got hurt for the Eagles, they were like, Sankone Barclay, now the Eagles all time leading Russia in the playoffs. What is he played four game, five game? Five, five playoff games with Eagles.

Damn. He's been there two seasons, all time leader for rushing for the Eagles. That's wild. I flew by. Isn't it? Didn't he only play four? They probably had a buy last year, right? No, they actually did play the one.

The Lions were the number one seat actually last year. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Five games all time. Who's, who's, did you say who was second? Brian Westbrook? I assume it was Brian Westbrook. Well, that's what's amazing is the Eagles made the NFC championship game four years in a row with Andy Reed. Like, I can't believe whatever.

I didn't think the Sequin Williams was could still hurt. me, but that did. I also want to just note that Cam Little, the Jaguars kicker, his career long, like they put that when you're in a field goal range to trying to get a field goal. They'll put the career long up. And his is at the 50. And he's the youngest kicker in the league. So it will be like that forever. And I'll never get used to it. Just get to the 50. What's funny about him is he doesn't look imposing physically. He doesn't have these like giant legs or he hasn't looks. He's like thin guy. I don't know. You wouldn't expect that he's the one who has the 67 yard leg in him. He's like Yamamoto.

It's like all, it's all angles. You know what I mean? Didn't expect him to have such a big weight. He doesn't lift weights. It's all about torque. It's always the skinny guys. Any other stats that kind of, other than everything from Indiana or Oregon.

You want to, I have a stat from that game. There were a lot of stats from that game. That might be the best. That was a disappointing game. My brother went to Oregon, so I was reading for Oregon. Tough couple of years for Oregon in a semi-final.

This is, so that game against Oregon was the Indian, Fernando Mendoza, that was his fifth game this year with more touchdowns than incompletions. Wow. Five times he's done that this year. No other quarterback in college football has done that more than twice this century. Wow. Dude.

The efficiency. The meme is just, I'm going to keep it as my comparison for Mendoza, which is that Fernando Mendoza is the Andrew Luck of Kirk Cousins. Yeah. Everything just looks so easy. It's almost like Drake Bay this year. where I'm like, I don't even know what to do with this. I mean, I mean, Indiana, they beat Oregon 5622.

It's like a Super Bowl of Chiefs Eagle score where it's like, it was 56 to like 10. I feel like entering the game Fernando Mendoz, Indiana, Dante Moore Jr. Oregon, it was like if they both come out for the draft, like one of them could go number one to the Raiders, D.K. Can we just call it? This is over. You're a draft expert here at the ringer.

This is over, right? I would think. Yeah. I would assume so. I mean, Dante might come back. Right. But also, but even if he comes out, Brady is going to love. of Mendoza. Everything about him. He six five. He has the frame. The intangibles.

He throws with a C. I mean, look at him. throws the ball with a C. Yeah. Um, no, I, I can't imagine that they'll talk themselves out of what he's done. I mean, like, it just so perfect too for the Raiders in particular who need a type of player who can like elevate this franchise. That's just been so bad for so long. Um, you know, what Indiana is doing is unprecedented and crazy and awesome. Um, but yeah, I mean, he just continues to be more. It's like every game he plays, he's more and more impressive. It just feels like he's cemented himself as the number one pick.

But, you know, we have, we have a lot of time between now and the draft to start picking him apart. That's right. And, and remember, we won't actually see him do anything for the next three months. He's going to play catch. But our opinions are going to change drastically. That's like, Craig, we always, we always joke every year that we'd be better at drafting. We just did it right when the season ends.

And this is like, I'm locking. There are so many things I want to, like, skill like a time cap. right now and then just open up again the weekend of the draft and just make the decisions that way. This is number one of them all. It's like Dante Moore Jr. just played the biggest game of his life. Say what you want. It was the worst game of his life. And he threw a pick six on the first throw. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It three turners in the first half was the biggest game was life. He fought with the ball in a way that I've never seen done before. He, he, his ball hit the running back as he was trying to throw it. I've never seen that before. There was just so many mistakes. And then you look at Mendoza and you're like, the two biggest

games of his life, he had more touchdowns and completions in both games. And so there's nothing to talk about. As we go to the offseason everything, we talk more about Indiana, what Kurt Signetti's done there. Kurtzignetti did not smile until they had 55 points. Like that guy, it's a site. We can unpack all that. But here's the most important part from this game, maybe the most important part of this

entire episode. My stat that I would like to give you guys is, I couldn't believe this. This is from Greg Harvey had this stat. Greg. Greg. FB. Like college football, FBS are equivalent teams in college football

that have scored 55 points and won by 30 or more points seven different times in a season. So you won by 30 and you scored 50, seven times in a season. Indiana this year. Wow. And then Princeton in 1887 and Yale in 1886.

1800s. How do we? even have record of that. Was football even around then? Who was right now down? So I'm glad you asked. It's harder than you think to find the roster for the 1886 yellow Bulldogs. Right. But I did. Hell yeah. Some notebook buried underground that somebody dug up. What was what was that Nick Cage? National treasure. National treasure. He's like stealing it. I, it also tested my, I wasn't totally sure when football had been invented.

This is like the cutting edge of football being invented. pretty much rugby back then. So let me tell you guys about someone I discovered on this Yale 1886. Do not look at anything. I'm not looking up right now. I'll kill you. Amos Alonzo Stag. Okay.

Amos Stag. Amos Alonzo Stag was on the 1886 Yale Bulldogs. He played End. Of course, they all do. So he became like a coach, like a true American sports pioneer. He was like the football coach at Yale, the baseball coach, basketball, like everything. But he was doing all this stuff.

He was like a 60 year coaching career. He was the coach? Well, he died it. Well, I'm saying later. Not on that team. But he died at like 93 in the 1950s. So he lived quite the life. Okay.

I want to, there is, you want to talk about a legacy. I would like to read you a list of things on Wikipedia that Alonzo. Amos Alonzo staggs, Wikipedia says that he invented or helped invent. The jump shot. I'm going to read you this list.

First on the list, the center snapping the ball. invented by this guy. Innovator. Innovator. I love it. Writing down plays in a book. That makes sense. It was easy back then, man. It was easy. You're an early adopter.

Coming up with a new idea now is borderline impossible. They've thought of everything. Him being like, what if we wrote down the things that we said we're going to do? In 1890, this guy invented the tackling dummy. He invented putting guys in motion before the snap. Now we're talking. He and Walter Camp together invented the, forward pass right again low-hanging fruit uh they invented hit pads putting pads

around the goalposts and my personal favorite is he invented the linebacker they were all just standing on the line before that he was like we need someone behind now they all line up this guy's a visionary 11 against 11 in a line so straight line god i love it staggered like revolutionary war tactics it's like trench war He's like, you've got a better idea. So I'm reading this guy's Wikipedia. I'm having a blast. And then I stop in my tracks and I read the following sentence.

He played in the first public game of basketball. Public? What? And then it says, Stagg developed basketball as a five-player sport. Holy shit. He invented football and basketball? Yes.

So in the 1890s. What if this guy had never, what if he had like a different job? Wait, what is the guy's name? What would have the peach basket? Who's that guy? James Naism. Naismith, right. Who was a teacher at the YMCA school in Springfield, Massachusetts,

in the 1890s. Do you know who else was a teacher at the Springfield School in Springfield, Massachusetts, YMCA in the 1890s? My boy Staggs. Amos Alonzo Stagg, who was invited to the first game of basketball by his fellow teacher James Naismith because he was the football coach, and it was nine on nine.

And Amos' feedback to James Ney Smith was, we got to take it down a notch. He's like Timberlake and social network. He's like, lose. Lose the four. Just five. Just five. This guy made basketball five on five.

This guy's like the fucking Isaac Newton of sports. Yeah. Vented Cal because he was bored. He's like the fucking Michelangelo of sports. Wait, no, Da Vinci. Who's the guy who invented like the helicopter in the 15th? Oh, Da Vinci came up. Yeah, the helicopter in the 1500.

He like invented a bridge. He was ahead of his time to win a bet. Then he was like buried He was the baseball coach He invented the batting cage Man What would this country look like

If this guy had just decided To get into something else I was gonna say I'd rather he focus on sports To be honest that's really important Yeah Wow also kind of like a Focused on safety

You know he was thinking long term Yeah Yeah the long game Yeah So that was my wormhole I could. I just reading about this. What's his name? Alonzo.

Amos Alonso Stag. And I'm reading about this guy who played end at Yale. And they're like, yeah, he made basketball, five persons board. All right. Amos Stag. Wait, you said that. How long did he live? 93.

They all did back then, man. Why am I? I'm looking at his Wikipedia. Was he born in 1862? This is him, right? This says he was 102 when he died. They don't actually know what he was born. Well, I don't think they wrote down birthdays until actually very recently.

Oh, I'm just looking at Wikipedia. He's the guy who invented writing down birthdays. Oh, yeah, you're right. He died in 1965. That's crazy. 102 years old. This guy lived. Oh, you know, wow, he died on March 17th.

That's crazy. You know what? This guy was probably eating steak, potatoes, and heavy milk every day. Whiskey, cigarettes. Out of lead silverware. Yes. Out of lead cups. Everything was made of lead.

Yeah. And he lived to 102. Bill Diff. God. I think we should bring back end as a position. Right. Because no, it's like when people are linebackers, it's like Will Anderson's a lineback.

It's like he's an end. Call him an end. Yeah. Get rid of edge, just say end. And it's an end. Maybe all do that. Well, they have that. They have defensive end.

Well, I know. I just want to end. Yeah. Lose the defensive. Lose the defense. Hey, just lose the. Do you guys have anything else? Or should we just?

End. Maybe we should just end. I want to hear Craig talk about the Golden Globes. It's kind of boring Golden Globes. The Golden Globes are a weird award show. You just say that Amy Poller of the Ringer won the podcast. That was cool. I mean, look, it was the first year ever that there was a best podcast category at any award show, really.

Golden Globes decided to launch that. And Amy Pillar of the Ringer won. Hell yeah. And that was cool. The Ringer's never lost. Hell yeah. Never lost. Golden Globe winning company.

Amazing. We never lost. All right. Well, we're next. So there you go. Watch out, Amy. Okay. I don't think Amy knows who we are.

No shot. No. Zero chance. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. I bet she knows who Amos Alonzo's tagg is, though. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig.

Thank you, Kamm. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Kai. Thank you. Austin. Thank you, everyone, for making this happen. Thank you Netflix for letting us do that one episode and then kicking us off after we played Fartars Chart on the show.

So that one was cool. But hopefully all the rest of our shows will be on Netflix, the rest of 2026. Thank you everyone who watched us here on Netflix. We appreciate it. And thank you everyone who didn't but put hit play and walked away and just let it play. Please.

Yeah, just do that. Just do that. Put the line and walk away. You can mute it. Go to sleep. He's got the little bird thing that like hits the button on the keyboard. Oh, yeah. Let's get that.

going. Set that up. We need like a whole click farm for our show that we need to build. That's a good idea. Yeah. And of course. Thank you, Lord. Lord.

Thank you, Lil Wayne. Speaking of that tweet, high fits that he said he said about Caleb lives. He has 28 million followers on Twitter. Lil Wayne? Will Wayne does. I can't even like imagine that. Think about the,

think about his replies. I have 28,000. 28,000. 28,000. Million. Million. That's funny about that, Craig, is if I told you you were 1,000 times less famous than La Wayne, you'd be like, that's pretty good. Not bad.

I can't take that. Don't you, aren't you a big fan of Lowell Wayne? Yeah, I like Lowell. Yeah, I'm a white kid from the suburbs, 30 years old. Of course, I like Will Wayne. DK, do you like Lowell, Wayne? Yeah. Why do you think Baker Mayfield and I are the exact same age and also just love the line, like Real Cheese Move and Silence like Lazzania?

That's because, you know. That is a good line. Do you guys hear the joke on that commercial with, uh, no, fuck, I'm remembering. I'm misremembering his name, the, uh, Bradley Cooper where he's like, Baker Mayfield sounds like a farm to table something or other. I was like, that is actually pretty fucking buttery. Yeah. We don't talk enough that Baker Mayfield's name is Baker.

Baker Mayfield sounds like a farm to table pop up restaurant. You're listening to Lil Wayne. I'm listening to Dender Loving Care, which I'm now learning is from a man named Jimmy Rogers. Jimmy Rogers wrote the Taco Bell song. Born in 1897. He played in the first game of basketball. Yeah, that's right.

And he invented Taco Bell. Genius. Genius. Makes it alive worth living. Come on. When was the last time we guys went to Taco Bell? Are you guys still doing Taco Bell or are you too old for that now? I haven't been in Taco Bell and in probably since college.

I actually didn't go to Taco Bell until I was like 27. Really? There wasn't one around me and then like in man, I used to crush talking up cigarettes at 60 years old. Taco Bell was like one of my biggest vices in my life. I see I see Taco Bell. I drive by Taco Bell. I just kind of like look at it wistfully like man. I miss that.

Those were the days. D.K. you can still have it on your way home from work. Nobody has to now pull into the drive-thru. Suck down in chalupa. You're home in 10 minutes. I know. But then, you know, there's all kinds of questions that come related to that.

Like, why, what's that smell? Why are you in the bathroom for an hour? Things of that nature, you know? Why are there all these empty Baja blast cups in the trunk of your calls? Why is this, what's the, what's the spicy sauce called? Why do we have six packets of the hot sauce in our, fire sauce that's called? Oh, fire sauce. Why is there's, why are there cinnamon crunch?

thumbs all over your seat. Cinnamon twists. Those are good. Should we get Taco about next time? I don't know any of these. I just know them from the commercials. Just miss it. I miss it so much.

I haven't had it in a while. I'm not sure how my body would react. The way that Chris Ryan talks about cigarettes is how I feel about Taco Bo. They should make nicotine patches for fast food. We should cut that from the show and make that business and like stop doing this pot. It's pretty good.

It should put the nicotine patch right in your tongue. And it tastes like a Dorito Locos talk. Wait, we actually cut. It's like a Taco Bell Zin. It's a Zin, but it's for bad food. It's for junk food. It's like their fire sauce. Yeah.

Just like a slow release. It's just called junk. That's the name of the company. Junk. Yeah. It's Zins for fucking fast food. We're going to joke about this, but someone listening is going to do this and they're going to be worth like $10 million.

But I guess, do you want the flavor of Taco Bell in your mouth all day? Yes. Very much so. All day. Absolutely. An hour and a time. It's like the tuna. It's like,

we can't get nine hours of this, but 45 minutes, an hour and 10, no problem. Yeah. Yeah, and like, you know, I guess you don't even have to do it all day. You could have one or two junks for a couple hours. Just when you start feeling a little jittery.

Yeah, you could eat a salad with a junk in. Tastes like Taco Bell. Why can't we do this? If they can make potato chips tastes like roast chicken or whatever weird-ass flavors they have in Lays in Europe, Have you seen that video of that woman? I don't even know if this was like fake. This was like for Mad TV or S&L or something,

but it was like some woman and she's like, oh yeah, like I figured out how to eat better and she sniffs a chocolate bar and then takes a bite of broccoli. Tricking your body. Yeah. Which is funny because like chocolate doesn't really smell.

Like that's like the worst thing you could pick. Well. Oh man. What was your go-to taco bottle thing? I just like chalupa. Chalupas are so good. Whatever that weird tortilla is, that's like lightly fried

or the chalupa tortilla is so good. I love the like multi-layered stuff. Man, so good. Taco about it. Get in touch. Please. Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com. Junk food zins are,

that's the next thing there. Someone's going to make that. Zinn. I mean, do you know much Zid is sold every year? Can we just verbally copyright that? That's ours. I declare. Yeah, yeah.

We, that's our idea. We should come up. God, we're going to not be rich from that. That's too bad. That's going to happen. All right. If someone wants to make that with us, email us. Yeah, come on.

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