The Ringer NFL Show - Winners, Waivers, and Burns From Week 3
Episode Date: September 28, 2020We break down the headlines of the week, including Russell Wilson and Josh Allen’s fantasy explosions and Nick Foles’s triumphant return. Later we get into the winners of the week, add to the fant...asy burn book, and recommend our top waiver adds after Week 3. Headlines: Russell Wilson (4:53) Josh Allen (12:54) Nick Foles (20:22) Winners: Rookie wide receivers (28:16) Justin Herbert (32:26) Last week’s waiver adds (33:57) Fantasy Burn Book (36:40) Week 4 waiver adds (44:31 Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show.
I'm Danny Hyfitts here with Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck.
Week 3 is in the books, DK.
Did you do it on 999 this weekend?
We got to talk about this.
Okay.
I did not.
For all you effers who skip the ad, beginning of the episode,
go back to the ad.
Heifitz says he did a 9-99 this weekend, which on a previous episode,
he said is nine beers, nine hot dogs, and nine innings of a baseball game.
you actually did that this weekend?
I did it.
Was it for fun or did you lose a bet?
When would it ever be for fun?
In theory, it was for fun.
It actually was fun.
Until like the seventh.
No, actually the fifth inning is when it got not fun
and the hot dogs were no longer enjoyable.
The hot dogs are got to be way harder than the beers.
What do you put on the hot dogs to make this?
I would catch up a mustard the whole time.
We thought we were going to have to do like the...
Are you going full Kobayashi, just like trying to get them in your mouth as easily as possible?
It thought we were going to have to do it.
It didn't end up having to come to that.
But I have to say it was a problem because we were watching Yankees Marlins.
And David Garcia, I got to say he was pitching real fast.
And that was a problem because he was just working through the order.
Like he was Mark Burley or something.
Was it a low scoring game?
You got to slow down.
It wasn't until it was 10-4 for the while.
It was like the Marlins were winning.
We're like, dude, David Garcia, you got to put some runners on base or something.
Please stop going through the order.
It was tough.
Oh, my God.
He survived.
I have it just fratier than I thought.
Is that, is that, does that sound cool to you?
Is that sound fratty?
I didn't say cool.
I said fratty.
I, look, I, it's quarantine times.
Like, we have to feel alive every now and then.
Okay, we have to do something.
I got a funny fantasy note from week three.
I had a buddy.
I have a big high school league.
A lot of friends.
It's like our, it's our ninth year.
It's kind of my most serious league.
And I got a text on Sunday morning.
I'm the commissioner.
My buddy Logan goes, hey, man, so I accidentally dropped Julio Jones.
No.
And I was like, okay, accidentally do that, though.
What do you mean?
It's like four clicks in a row.
I don't know how you accidentally do that.
Did he think it was some other Jones?
Like, I don't know.
Or I guess maybe he was like, can't keep up with the Joneses?
Moving too quickly, but he was like, can you help me out?
And I went into my like, because I'm the commissioner.
I went into like the commissioner tools.
And you, I could change his waiver to where you could add him the next day,
but I couldn't put him back on his team for Sunday, which he really lucked out because
Julio was ruled out.
Yeah.
So he got really lucky.
But so our punishment for him.
him. And so we do the free agent salary cap bidding thing. So we're all going to make him spend
$10 to get him back. And he has to change his name to like, I'm an idiot. I dropped Julio.
I was going to say, as long as the team name has to change, then that's justice.
I was going to say, you should make him spend his entire budget on that.
Oh, no. I'm 10 bucks is nothing. I don't know. I mean, I thought it was, I thought it was all right.
You got to be more McAvelian, Craig. Come on. You got a rule with an iron fist.
Yeah, that's a slap on the wrist. That's like what Volkswagen got for cheating in
the EPA stuff.
Like, you know, that's really, you know,
that's compared to what he's getting.
It's not that bad.
Okay.
Let's get into week three.
Holy cow.
That was wild.
Week three started pretty boring.
The first half of the 10 o'clock games sucked and then it just took off.
So, yeah,
so this week was so clearly, okay, so Seahawks Cowboys at the late window,
Sunday football, Packers, Saints will be cool Monday night.
We're recording this on Monday.
Chiefs Ravens haven't played.
We assume it was a good game, unless you're me,
which I think it'll be bad.
But the one o'clock seemed like they were going to be
awful. And then the second half, as you said, Craig, was all of the games were competitive,
except the Eagles Bengals, which was competitive in a nobody deserves to win way, which was the
Jets game. And the Jets game, which doesn't count as football. But, well, do we, D.K., do you want to take
a victory lap in Russell Wilson? Or should we go with Josh Allen right now? Those are the two
just absolute headlines of, they've been the headlines of the first three weeks.
I'm still nervous the Seahawks are going to give this up. But Russell Wilson is in absolute
God mode right now.
Like he's playing out of his mind.
He has 14 touchdowns in three games,
which is the most in NFL history, the most.
Well, also he should have 15 because D.K.
dropped the one.
He should be averaging five the game.
God, I know.
Ridiculous.
Oh, my God.
The D.K. Metcalfe play.
If football had errors like baseball,
you can tell us watching baseball because of the 999,
but if football had errors,
then he would have five touchdowns a game.
It's just crazy.
And the funny thing, like the,
it's just hilarious to me that,
legitimately like fans Seahawks fans have been trying to get the Seahawks to do this for years now like legitimately years the let Russ cook movement has been gaining steam there was uh Mina Kimes did like a big let Russ cook like feature before the game and everything and and um I mean like legitimately all the Seahawks had to do was the most obvious thing in the world and now Russell Wilson is in fucking God mode 14 touchdowns and three games.
to most ever.
All they had to do was the most obvious thing.
The thing that struck me watching the game
was that I feel like even just two years ago,
when you watch the Seahawks,
when I watched the Seahawks,
I don't know what I'm talking to the second person.
When I watched the Seahawks,
I always felt that my favorite down was third and ten
because they would run and get no yardage,
run and get no yardage.
And then Russell Wilson would have to do some FACTA shit
on third and ten,
and he would like evade the line,
there'd be immediate pressure,
and he would just throw the ball up,
entire lock it would come down with it,
which shocked me against the Dallas.
was he had time in the pocket.
He had more five full second clean pockets in that game than I feel like he did in the
entire year of 2017.
And the fact that the first year, I mean, it's not like this line is great, but it's the
bar is so low.
He's, they've passed this low bar that.
And he's just the best quarterback in the world the second he's gotten past protection.
D.K., you said something that I wanted to touch on.
And I agree with you.
Are you worried it's going to go away?
Yeah.
I'm still worried.
and this is probably just years of
of conditioning to expect
the worst with the Seahawks.
And I'm not saying the worst
like they're a bad team.
I'm just like the worst being
every single game.
There's like this meme like Kevin Clark
is behind this like no,
the Seahawks I've never played
a normal game ever.
Every single game is like
the most stressful experience
I can imagine.
Well, did you hear what Pete Carroll said
after the game?
He said,
I know that a lot of fans
are pulling their hair out
but to be totally honest,
this is how I like it.
And I'm like, dude,
what?
You almost lost this game.
Because the fact that the Cowboys went into halftime
even close was crazy considering all the crap that they had done.
It was kind of an...
If the Sears had lost the game, it would have been pretty embarrassing.
I was kind of blown it away when Pete Carroll said that.
Pete Carroll's such a gamer.
I feel like he loves close games.
No, he...
Craig, you're the one who did the...
You produced Pete Carroll's podcast.
You're the most biased one on this show.
He's 100% right.
Carol, like...
He lives for this shit.
He loves it.
Once I remember like very vividly one press conference a few years ago where he basically told fans to toughen up because like this is how it's going to be like everyone was like bitching about essentially everyone was like bitching about how just stressful every C-Ox game was and he's just like tough it up this is what's going to be like and I mean that's just Pete Carroll for you. So the C-Ox have so let's get into Russell Wilson quickly because you know obviously him playing like this is a huge factor in fantasy football.
he has 102 points total.
And this is per ESPN.
This is this is per ESPN.
First quarterback and fourth player at any position to score at least 30 fantasy points in each of his first three games,
each of his team's first three games of a season.
102 points total most by any quarterback ever.
Three games.
Most by any quarterback ever through three games and tie for fifth most by any player at any position.
So obviously what he's doing is.
really, really huge. You know, if you took a chance on him, wherever you took him in the
middle, in the early middle rounds, that's paying off for you huge right now. And the cool thing
is, I don't think he's necessarily going to keep this pace. Like, he can't throw four touchdowns
every game, right? Well, he's on pace for 74 touchdowns, so I don't think he's going to keep the pace,
no. But I could see him do, I could see him continue to absolutely go scorched earth because
Seahawks past events is atrocious, like legitimately historically bad. They're giving up the full
Columbus, which is 1,492 yards on defense, which is the second most ever.
The full Columbus.
They've gone full Columbus.
Yeah.
But is Russell Wilson a sell high in any argument?
I mean, you could make that argument because, like I said, I don't think he's going to
keep doing this.
Would you trade him for Mahomes right now in fantasy?
Oh, that's a super good question.
I don't think I would.
So he's not a sell high?
Not in redraft.
Here's why, because I think, you know, in addition to like all the ideas of like regression and things where like you can't, you can't see Lamar doing what he did last year.
You can't see Mahomes doing what he did two years ago.
Like Russell Wilson is in that special.
This is the year where next year we go, he's not going to do 2020 again.
Yeah, exactly.
Like that's like that's what's telling me to like go with Russell Wilson because all the variables are right right now.
He's got Lockett, D.K. Metcalfe.
He's got more protection as Danny brought up.
And they're going to be in shootouts legitimately.
every week. Their defense, I can't, I can't overstate how bad their defense is. Like, it's
historically bad. They've given up like 70 something PPR points to opposing receivers so far,
which is like 30 more than any other team. It's weird because they're the Seahawks. They still
wear the Seahawks uniforms. They traded for Jamal Adams, even though he obviously was hurt and
groin injury on the sideline for this game. It's like they, you know, walks like a dock and walks like a duck
and quacks like a duck.
It's like they still look like the Seahawks.
And they still, but just look like the Seahawks.
Pete Carroll's still there chomping his gum.
And Jamal Adams is there like, oh, this is a good defense.
They are the worst past defense in the end.
Like this is so jarring to what do we call it?
What do you call them?
What was it like meanwhile at the Legion of Doom?
No, the joke here is the Legion of Whom.
Oh, that's good.
Legion of whom?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, that's the Chiefs.
The Legion of whom is actually really funny.
The Russell Wilson thing reminds me of like if James Winston or like Ryan Fitzpatrick
from the last couple of years on the Buccaneers just didn't throw picks.
Like that's the kind of offense that they are able to like put together.
Like Wilson is just going to have to pat it.
And honestly.
And the one pick that Wilson threw was off Greg Olson's hands.
Yeah.
He has zero turnover worthy plays this year per PFF.
Russell Wilson does.
even though that was a turnover, it went off of Olton's hands.
So I saw this from Ben Baldwin, and this is the key to kind of like everything and the huge
sea change that we're seeing from the Seahawks is the CX right now are the past heaviest
team on first and second now.
They're the chiefs now.
They're passing so much.
I'm so glad you said that.
I'm so glad you said that.
This is a scoring machine offense with a bend don't break defense.
And that's so weird to think about the Seahawks because in 2018, I don't, I've, it's not
Ben Baldwin.
I'm sorry, one of the Seahawks writers, who I apologize to,
who had this stat, but the Seawks in 2018 were the run heaviest,
or Brian Schottenheimer was the run heaviest offense since Tim Tebow's Broncos in 2011,
like in the last 12 years.
And now, as you're saying, they're the most past heavy team.
The transition has just been stark.
But to be clear, you're rolling with it because you think that this is the outlier season.
So is he the number one quarterback in fantasy if you're going forward?
Forgetting the 14 touchdowns, forgetting the number, he's the number one guy.
Okay.
Because of all those variables.
So let's get to the next one.
Josh Allen, who has for three weeks in a row had the most Josh Allen game of his career.
Is that fair to say?
This was the one where it was like, okay, is this real?
Because he crushed the dolphins and he crushed the Jets who are two of the five horse teams in football.
It's like, okay, now you're going against the Rams.
He's going against Jalen Ramsey, who called him trash two years ago.
And then Aaron Donald.
And he just looked unreal.
He looked like every pre-draft scouting report had him at the ceiling.
Just this unstoppable touchdown machine.
We had four touchdowns in the first half.
They went up 28 to 3.
It was like this was like the second coming.
And then there was a lot of weird stuff happened.
And there was some Josh Allen stuff.
But they still came back and won the game.
I am blown away.
D.K., what do you make of this?
Josh Allen is fantasy gold because not only are they asking him to pass a ton
and putting that much on his shoulders and everything,
but he's also their goal line back.
They're designing like speed option runs for him
where he has the option to pitch it or whatever
and he just dives in.
You know, he's,
he's fearless around the goal line.
So he's getting all those rushing yards,
or sorry, rushing touchdowns,
obviously that are going to boost his score a ton.
And honestly, we'd be talking about Alan even more right now
if it wasn't for what Russell Wilson is doing
because through three games.
And again, this is from ESPN.
I saw this last night.
Allen's 93.9 points through three games is the third most ever, trailing only Russell Wilson
this year and Ryan Fitzpatrick in 2018.
Okay, but the Fitzpatrick thing makes it so awkward.
What are you supposed to make of that stat when on one hand it's Ross and that offense was
awesome.
I don't think that's even, that's not, that doesn't take away from this at all because that
offense was sick.
They were, they were, it was like Todd Monkin, just vertical attack, just going downfield,
Yolo and we've seen Fitzpatrick do this in stretches over his career.
Like he's no, he's not like a fluke. He did it with the Jets.
You know, he did it with the Buccaneers.
Josh Allen's good. Like Josh Allen's deep balls look good. He looks like a better player.
He's almost like if Christian McCaffrey were a quarterback on the bills and that's how they use
him. He just gets every touch. He gains every yard.
Oh yeah. And he's their entire team. It's crazy.
Well, the crazy thing about Josh Allen and I think, I don't know about other people,
for me, the number one thing that I was just didn't think that this Josh Allen
experience was going to work out was
he had no touch. It was
like, do you remember in Madden when they introduced
bullet passes for the first time? Yeah.
And then you held down the button hard and it
would zip it? Exactly. And
people didn't really know how to do it at first
and so people were just thrown, but the game
was designed for you don't know how to do it. And so people
were bulleting at the complete wrong time.
You're like, oh, you're not supposed to bullet a screen pass. I didn't know.
That was how Josh Allen played in real life
for the first two years in the NFL. He was just
whipping passes at dude's feet and over
their heads and just, I mean, there's the worst
deep ball pass in the NFL last year in large part because he could make any throw,
but he didn't seem to know the idea of timing or loft or arc or, you know, touch,
which anyone gets when you're throwing a ball.
And this year he just has it.
Apparently he worked with Tony Romo and Jordan Palmer and he fixed it.
And he just, his balls look pretty now with the exception of the one ball that he threw
to digs that almost buried in the dirt on a screen pass, which I will let go because he played
so well.
he just looks like a great quarterback.
And I never thought I'd say those words.
You know, once we come around to next season
and we start doing our pre-draft rankings and all that stuff again,
I'm kind of thinking about this new thing about,
I think drafting a QB-Late is dumb if you're the best drafter in your league.
If you think that you are the guy who's the really smart one,
I think you should draft a quarterback semi-early.
Because if you know which one to get, they're going to work out.
And then if you can do a good enough job later in the draft,
because you're so much better than everybody else,
it'll make up for itself
because you can draft the Deontay Johnson's late
than when everybody else doesn't.
You know, like Kyler, Josh Allen,
and Russell Wilson are perfect examples
of why maybe you should draft a quarterback
if you are a smart drafter,
it can beat everybody else.
Especially in league,
I feel like especially in leagues
where you only have so many starters.
Like if you're trotting out like four,
like three flexes,
that makes a little bit more difficult
because then you're losing out on like those skill position players.
But if you're starting just like two,
running backs, two receivers and a tight end and a quarterback.
Like in those leagues, that can give you a real edge where if you have like an only
And that's also easy, it's easy to say.
But if you got Josh Allen with the eighth or ninth quarterback off the board this year, you don't feel that way at all.
You feel like, oh, I'm crushing it.
I have Josh Allen and I have, I didn't draft someone where someone else had Lamar Jackson.
The other factor that goes into this year, though, that I wanted to briefly talk about is this offensive explosion that we're seeing like Russell Wilson and Josh Allen, like, uh, Drew, uh, sorry, not Drew.
not Drew Brees.
Aaron Rogers has just gone off.
This offensive explosion, I think, is fascinating because,
and I can't remember, you know,
if we talked about this on the pot,
so I just briefly want to talk about it really quickly,
like the NFL's not calling penalties this year.
There was this mandate before the season.
I love it.
I think it was directly related to the fact that teams are not going to have this,
this regular offseason.
They're not going to have four preseason games to ramp up.
It's going to be like coming in cold, you know.
And so the NFL,
basically told its referee, it's officiating crews to not call anything unless it was clear and
obvious. Let the boys play. Yeah, that's their language. And through three weeks, or through two weeks,
I know, I saw this for Greg Rosenthal, like, that was the fewest amount of offensive penalties
called ever. And I'm guessing through three weeks that that trend is going to continue. There were some
calls this week that brought some big plays back, but for the most part, they're just like Craig said,
they're letting them play.
And this is an offensive explosion like we've never seen,
like more points, more touchdowns.
This is corking the bat, but for football.
This is the only way to do it is the refs have to just bite their whistles
and look what happens to the game.
It's kind of crazy that they hold that much power.
I love it.
And so my question is like,
is this making this a unique season where we're going to see everything go back
to normal next year?
Is this the steroid era of football?
I don't know. Yeah.
I just want to be very clear that nobody,
has complained about this one time.
I know.
There is not been one person on earth who said, you know what?
I wish there were more pounties this season.
You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube after this, man.
That's kind of where I'm going.
Yeah, it's once you get people a full season.
And I still think there's been some tic-y-tack shit calls of, like, weak-ass offensive
PIs, those push-offs they're calling.
Well, because people are generally ungrateful and will adapt to whatever reality
just quickly folds in.
So even though there's less whole offensive paletings than whenever, people are
still like, well, the Michael Gallup OPI in week one.
And then people are still clear.
Well, the DPI against the Rams in the end of the game.
I'm like, there was so much stuff they let go in that game that.
Yeah, no, I think you're right, Dic.
I think you're dead on because it's, I actually, this is actually a really interesting
conversation.
You can't go back.
You can't go back.
I mean, last year, there were 10, there were 10 holdings in Thursday football and
Tom Brady's like, what the hell is going on?
This is brilliant.
And I'm sure defenses are pissed, but whatever.
Regardless of fantasy, because obviously this is.
a fantasy tilted podcast, but like,
I just think it makes football unwatchable
when it's like constant penalties.
I can't stand that.
From,
just like from a pure football point of view.
And I don't even care about fantasy.
Like,
it's just,
it's not fun to watch.
So anyways,
speaking of not fun to watch,
Mitchell Chubisky got benched.
Yeah,
that's the last headline of the weekend,
I feel like,
that was a good segue.
Oh, I would.
Big Dick Nick coming in and just getting a dub.
Foles came in.
Well,
Foles came in and through three,
touchdowns after he hadn't thrown a pass and God knows how long he is. That man is just
absolute. And his interception is not an intercept. I mean like even if even though it technically
was an interception, it wasn't like a bad throw. Football needs errors. If Mitchell Trubisky
throws a pass and it bounced off a defender's chest because he's so shocked that came to him
that should be registered as a pick. Russell Wilson, it's Greg Olson in the hands. It should not be.
So Foles comes in immediately unlocks Allen Robinson, who's now back to being fantastic.
Yeah. Yeah. How do we feel that you push for Trubisky and Robinson is
the combo. Do you feel like you get half credit there?
What do you do for a fandal lineup from last week?
I know what he's talking about? Oh, just because I said the defense is what
Trubisky can normally exploit. I mean, I think
Robin's offense would do well. I did. And I think Robinson had like
seven catches with Trubisky, but it's just and
just couldn't get him in the end zone. But how do we feel now with Foles?
Is everybody on their way up? Jimmy Graham is now relevant.
Jimmy Graham was the number one tight end of the week, right?
Tariko and Torres ACL. So that sucks. David Montgomery's
probably going to have a bigger role.
Deky, what do you make of the Bears?
So Fultz came in, he did throw three touchdowns in the same and a half.
Take shots.
I mean, he did have a couple of throws that were very, very lucky.
Like, there was one throw.
The Bears just got lucky in general.
It's not luck.
And he almost had the Anthony Miller, another touchdown to Anthony Miller.
He could have had five.
That was bizarre.
That was super bizarre.
Dick Foles can only be lucky for so long before there's a higher power going on here.
Nick Fulz just takes fun.
He's the guy who walks in like late to the pregame, just like shots.
We're doing shots.
And everyone's like, all right.
Oh, you call me, friends.
Eddie. Get the fuck out of here. That's not Nick Foles has never done shots in his life.
Look, we, we talked about this before the, before the season a lot. Like, I think all of us
believed that Foles has the ability to unlock this offense in a way that Trubisky simply
could not do. And we saw that in this game. It's a small sample. It's going up against the worst
defense in the FOL. That's second worst to the Seahawks, maybe. So, you know, there's, we're going
to have to wait and see kind of how this changes in it'll, it'll help Foles too to have a full week of
practice as like the starter.
And he's already been announced as the starter for next week.
And beyond.
Matt Nagy said that.
Oh,
and beyond.
Okay.
So yeah,
no,
I do think it's good.
I think it unlocks Al Robinson.
It makes,
it makes the other receivers in their,
I'm not so sure.
I think that Jimmy Graham is going to be a very hit and miss,
but he will have those spike weeks.
I think Anthony Miller is more interesting,
even though he's still kind of making his way in this offense and trying to figure out
if they're going to use him full time.
Darno Mooney is an interesting.
rookie. But yeah, I think overall it's going to be good for this offense. It's going to make
David Montgomery's role even more like more important. And I was not excited about any bears
really to be to before. And now I am. All right. So maybe A Rob will put the bears logo back in
his social media now. Maybe we'll get that. Okay. So bears are trending up. Russell Wilson's the
QB one going forward. Josh Allen sell high or no, you keep it in the rest of the year. Why would
you sell high? Come on. Because I feel like Josh, Josh Allen and Russell Wilson. It's like, it's like,
Like selling Lamar Jackson high last year.
It's like just write it, man.
You freaking hit the jackpot.
Go for it.
And also you want to talk about half of fantasy football is having fun.
It's not fun to trade Josh Allen right now.
Josh Allen is the singular most fun player in the NFL right now.
It's not really close.
Okay.
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what do you guys think?
Who do you think is going to win this game?
I get the Ravens.
Yeah, one bet I would like is to do the Lamar rushing yards over
and the Ravens minus three in the first half.
What's the over under on J.K. Dobbins,
like the Ravens rushing to keep the ball away from Chiefs?
I know, that's what I'm thinking, though.
You like J.K?
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Okay, let's get into who won the week.
The personals, the personal who won the weeks.
Personal who won the weeks.
I mean, the teams, I mean, you could just Google it, you know.
Yeah.
The real who won the weeks, because you guys want the real numbers, we got the top scores here.
Top scores, quarterback, we just went through him.
Russ was number one.
Josh Allen was number two.
Dak Presko is number three, a quarterback.
Running back was Alvin Camara.
Rex Burkhead was the number two running back this week.
week, which what the hell? And then James Robinson was the third top running back.
Receiver was Tyler Lockett. Give himself a pat in the back there. Justin Jefferson at number
two. And then Cedric Wilson for the Cowboys was number three receiver. And then this one's,
this one is like, we're in a simulation. Tight end is Jimmy Graham for the number one for the Bears,
who is not the number one tight end in real life for the Bears at times. Tyler Croft was the number
two tight end. And Eric Ebron was the number three tight end. What the hell is going?
on?
None of this matters, man.
Your draft doesn't matter.
That's what this means.
Are we just in a meaningless void of complete
randomness?
You know what I like?
Cedric Wilson?
Who is Cedric Wilson?
You know what I like is the DK on our Friday show
for his bold prediction was that
or one of his gut calls was that C.D.
Lamb would be the highest scoring skill player
on the Dallas Cowboys and that
actually he needed to go one
rung further down the Dallas
receiving depth chart to be right about that?
Cedric Wilson stole my thunder so much because he was running those
those overroutes, you know, like just both of his touchlines were really long
overroutes from the sly, I believe. And I'm like, that's exactly what I fucking pictured
with Cedie Lamb, except for this guy, this creative player named Cedric Wilson,
who I've literally never heard of. No, there are a lot of creative players,
especially Easton Stick coming in briefly to replace Justin Herbert. That is the most
creative player-ass name I've ever heard in my life. Yeah, because it's like
Easton brand sports equipment or whatever.
That's what it sounds like a baseball bat.
So good for Cedric Wilson, bad for my prediction, but.
Anyway, that's just absolutely ridiculous.
So Randos won the week for starters.
And then, DK, who else won the week?
My official winner of the week is the rookie receivers that broke out because I thought that
was really fun to see.
We talked about it in the preseason how rookie receivers can have big impacts early on in
the season much more.
It feels like much more frequently than in the past these last.
few seasons. And so, or especially last year and this year. And we saw that again, Justin Jefferson
went absolutely bonkers for the Vikings, seven catches, 175 yards, one touchdown. It was really
nice to finally see the Vikings offense move the ball. They actually ran the ball really well and
pass the ball and they still managed to lose, which, you know, I don't know if they're, I don't know
how the hell that happened. But Justin Jefferson, nine targets. And I think, you know, that to me,
now two weeks in a row that he's been kind of like the lead.
receiver on that team. I still think Thielen is going to be, you know, a huge, huge target for
Kirk Cousins. But to me, this Jefferson thing feels real because he has inherited that number
two job, maybe de facto number one job in that offense. He's playing outside. He's proven, he proved
yesterday that he can play on the outside because a lot of his targets were coming on the outside.
And so that was huge. T. Higgins stepped up with John Ross as a healthy scratch RIP,
John Ross. They need to get John Ross in another team, by the way. I'm still a believer.
Not really.
I'm actually not really.
I'm just basically doing it as a bit because I know Danny Hyfitz hates him.
I'm so triggered by John Ross.
Snowflake when it comes to John Ross.
But anyways, T. Higgins looked really good.
Five catches, 40 yards, two touchdowns.
Burrough is going to continue to throw a lot this year.
I think that's going to be pretty much locked in.
They're always going to be playing from behind.
And he's showing a lot of trust and chemistry with Higgins.
So that's big.
Brandon Ayyuk.
Five catches, 70 yards.
Three carries 31 yards in a touchdown.
For San Francisco.
Yes, for San Francisco.
He's finally healthy, the first rounder.
And I think this was kind of like his first real game, you know, in there, you know,
where he's at least somewhat close to full health.
Shanahan got him schemed up, you know, got him ways to get the ball.
They're just so banged up on offense.
I think they're going to have to continue to get him involved.
And then Gabriel David.
Well, they just got through the FCS portion of their schedule going through MetLife with the Jets and the Giants.
Yeah, what about Debo?
Like, would you rather have Debo or Brandon IU?
Probably Debo, right?
No, I'd rather have Iyuk at this point because,
I just don't trust Debo's injury.
You know, we talked about that.
Highfits, I believe, said there's like a huge,
huge rate of re-injury with that type of foot injury.
It's like almost 40%.
Like if I had, if someone offered me Debo for Ayuk,
I probably would just keep Ayuk.
Because I think he has a better chance of playing more games this year.
And it's also,
it's not only is the risk of re-injury really high.
They just made the mistake with Trent Taylor,
who is a less important,
but still like a player in that receiving group,
who had a very similar injury,
re-injured by coming to,
by coming back,
too soon so that they would now take the same risk with Debo.
I think that that's a very good point, D.K., so that even if he plays, I do think that
even if they're not admitting, I think a snap count is entirely possible, or if it's not
something that it could be added later in the season because they obviously want him for a
playoff run.
Ford and I just get the Eagles this week, too, which, you know, the Eagles are just a mess.
We were just talking about the Vikings, and we have to linger in the Eagles here for a second,
because I know this is winners, but let's make time for whatever the hell of tie is.
I don't know what the word is, but the Vikings were and the Eagles were both.
in this awful spot of like 0 and 2.
It's supposed to be really good.
They bounce back.
They're at least salvaged their season.
The Eagles are now 02 and 1.
And this is like the most depressed I've seen Eagles fans
since they won the Super Bowl.
I mean, really in the last five or six years.
Does Carson once suck?
What do you do with this offense now that it's Alshan Jeffries hurt,
Jalen Rager's hurt?
Dallas Goddard has an ankle injury.
Oh, yeah.
I am forget.
Oh, Boston Scott is still banged up.
And then there's someone else I'm forgetting because I can't keep track of everything.
Deshawn Jackson?
Deshawn Jackson, yeah.
He has a little hamstring injury.
We're not sure if he's going to miss the game or not.
So are you picking up Greg Ward?
What the hell?
I mean, if you're desperate,
honestly, I would pick up all the guys I just mentioned before that.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
I just, I just completely.
I'm just, the Eagles are just awful.
Okay, so rookie receivers won for you.
TK. Craig, who won the week for you?
The doctor who stabbed Tyrod Taylor.
Stabbed.
Craig can say this because he's on the Chargers.
He's the third string quarterback.
Didn't you win the week?
No, I didn't get the play.
It's a whole thing.
A lot of politics going on.
Are you East and Stick?
I'm not.
I'm not East and Stick.
But, okay, ever since the doctor stabbed Tyrod Taylor,
Justin Herbert has been playing really well,
and he's completely unlocked the Chargers' offense
from only a fantasy perspective.
It's not like they're winning now.
But in week one, if you take the big five,
Keenan, Echler, Josh Kelly, Hunter, Henry, and Tyrod,
46 fantasy points.
Then Tyrod gets stabbed.
In the next two weeks, the team puts up 75 fantasy points,
30 more each week.
Justin Herbert's giving Echler the ball.
He's peppering Keenan Allen.
They're just better with Herbert.
And so the doctor must have had Herbie fully loaded on his fantasy team,
and that's why he stabbed.
Do you think this was an inside job?
perhaps but the charges are just a different offense and
Echler was going down the wrong path with Tyrod and now things are
the ship has righted itself I'd love to say the air has come out of
Tyrod Taylor season I hope that he's okay yes gonna say that
yeah nothing against Tyrod I think he's a good player nice guy you know
everything seems fine but um yeah charges are a different team with Herbie
mine mine isn't nearly as good as that that Bravo uh I'm just gonna say that
waiver wire ads won the week. I don't have any stabbings in mind. I'm just going to say, I mean,
all the guys that people, I mean, last week was carnage and all the people got hurt and we were like,
all right, who do you pick up for the most part? The dudes did pretty, did pretty well. That's true.
And that usually it's like only one usually hits of like the big four everybody adds that they were all
really good. Usually it's like a scratch off tickets and you're just hoping that, you know,
like you and five friends by you're hoping someone wins something. And this one was like,
oh, like 60% hit rate. Mike Davis had, you know, 90 total yards or whatever touched. And he had
eight catches for the Carolina. Jarge McKinnon. Yeah. Again. Yeah.
Jared McKinnon had a pretty good day.
He'd a score a touchdown.
And then Jeff Wilson for the 49ers actually had an even better day.
They both were really solid options.
Daryl Henderson had more than 100 yards in a touchdown for the Rams.
Miles Gaskin had a solid game for the Dolphins.
He had, I might not have the exact number, 19 goal line carries.
It felt like that.
He still couldn't score, but whatever.
He'd a really good game.
They clearly believe in him.
And then a receiver, if you were down to Vonté Adams,
Alan Lazard is like Calvin Johnson because he had 150 yards or whatever in a touchdown.
He should have had six more, but he kept.
getting tackled at the goal line, but he was really good.
She got caught from behind on that one play.
Look like he was running in mud.
Yeah, really, like there's the meme of like that,
some British woman who gets stuck in the mud and going to come to go.
That's what I think of what I think Al-Bazaard.
But really the only bums were one,
Dionne Lewis, who, I mean, one carry.
I tried to tell you, man, this offense is terrible.
We tried to warn you.
And then the other person who was a bum was Josh Kelly,
who we did the opposite.
And we put him in our fandal million dollar lineup.
So he owes this money.
that was weird like he got 23 carries the game before and then they completely like ignored
well there you go that that's the thing he can't fumble god forbid you fumble you get
especially like a former running former running former running backs coach i believe anthony land was
what's the podcast equivalent of fumbling craig what do we do and you just mute us for five
minutes not recording oh yeah it's not recording when i have to use your zoom audio
did p carroll ever not record for doing something like that carroll never did that i mean but
Granted, I had to really walk him through everything, but he likes to keep it close, you know?
He doesn't want to just like win by a lot.
He wants to, you know, he was like even like a gamer setting up his Zoom device.
He's like, all right.
Did he ever tell you like just suck it up, Finn?
Just suck it up Craig.
Have you ever heard the term always compete?
Man, it's like his life mantra.
I know.
If you're not compete, you're either competing or you're not.
He's just like, I'm better at Steve Care than setting up this equipment.
I love Pete.
Anyway.
Did you say Steve Care?
Kerr?
Kerr.
No, I know what I thought you said.
said care.
No, I totally did not say that.
I totally did not.
Okay, let's move on.
Okay, so you know what?
I like Craig's better than that.
The doctor stabbed Tara Taylor.
You're the winner of the week.
Congratulations.
All right.
Ring or Burn book.
We're stealing this from mean girls.
The people who were just absolutely pissed at.
This was Craig's idea, by the way, from a couple
episodes ago.
We're now getting it's week three's in the books now and now you're
officially like pissed at guys.
And it's,
you're getting to the point where you're like,
you know what,
I'm done.
I'm no longer starting these guys.
I wanted to actually.
you guys if you have any historical burn book fantasy players that you got in your book and you're
never taken him out or maybe they're retired now or whatever but my personal one was c j spiller he never
came around everybody always bet on cj spiller he looked so good so tantalizing and he he drossed him way too
high every year and he just never worked out that's really good one will fuller is has the potential
to be one this year but his touchdown his head is barely above water thanks to his touchdown
Will Fuller, yeah, Will Fuller is not yet.
For me, my burn book so far is just the New York football teams, which are just,
the whole team.
Just the overlap of fantasy and NFL is completely total to me.
It's just these two teams are useless and should be relegated.
Their fantasy players shouldn't be allowed to be rostered and the NFL team shouldn't be
allowed to play.
These are minor league football teams.
I watched the Giants and I remember thinking, this is so clearly the worst team in the league.
And then I saw a graph of like,
EPA per play, which is the best stat there is for all encompassing football.
And the Giants were 31st.
And you know those, the graphs where it's like it's like, you know, the T-axis and everything.
And the Jets were just in the bottom left corner.
Like the bottom left corner was the Jets and the other 31 teams were all in the middle.
And I was like, holy shit.
The Jets are like two or three standard deviations past the giants.
And it's just, they're embarrassing.
Adam Gase was like, we're going to go into hyperdrive.
They lost by 30 points.
What are you doing?
What is going on?
I think it's just Adam Gase who's in the Burnbook.
Like for sure.
I don't necessarily.
Yeah,
he should be the first official
burn book person.
I think Adam Gase deserves it.
Adam Gage.
Get him in there because I'm fucking sick of it.
Like,
Herndon's good.
We should cut the cord on Adam Gase.
He's reached the point where you just can't draft a jet.
Has that ever happened before where a coach made you not draft anyone on his team for fantasy?
High Fitz.
I get that joke, by the way.
Oh,
yeah.
That was a joke.
Yeah.
Just in case you didn't catch that.
He like left his wife right after she gave him.
the doctor's like, hey, do you want to cut the umbilical cord for your son?
And he's like, no, I got to go to a meeting.
Leaves his wife.
I'm going to make a last second pivot for who I want to put in the burn book this week.
I think it's Daniel Jones.
He's my quarterback in the ringer and our ringer fantasy league.
We all had him like 12th in the rankings going in.
Like, oh, he's big athletic, can throw a deep ball, could really do a lot in this giant's offense.
Daniel Jones, he's just not giving you any hope.
He gives you like nine points a week.
And it's getting really bleak.
and I think I'm never,
if you watch him play though,
you do have some hope.
Yeah,
because he like has one deep ball
to Darius Slateen every week.
That's decent.
Yeah,
but that's the shit that makes red zone.
That's the stuff you see in sports and you're like,
ooh,
what you don't see is just Daniel Jones,
the lack of pocket awareness.
I don't,
I really wonder if he looks both ways
when he crosses the street
because it's like he wades into the pocket
and he just,
I just fumble so much.
And I actually went back
and looked at the dad
and it's a little,
I did this for James Winston.
I was trying to put,
in context how often he turns the ball over.
Because everyone talks about the picks, people forget the fumbles.
So I was like, let's just add turnovers total,
fumbles and interceptions per game.
And I did this data trying to find James stuff.
You know who's number one of all time in turnovers per game?
Daniel Jones.
Dude, okay, I want to talk about this really quickly
because I feel like there was a lot of victory lapping last year
for people that were basically,
and I felt like at the time it was right, like rightfully so.
they were basically making fun of people like me who buried Daniel Jones before the draft.
Like, this guy sucks.
And I admit that it's still early in his career.
And he could turn this around.
But man, the turnovers are a major fucking problem.
And the guy that I compared Daniel Jones to coming out just for some perspective.
And it was the exact reason I compared him to this is because he was just such a turnover prone, like, wild, unpredictable.
I don't know if he can like coach this out of him.
Thing is Blake Bortles.
And Daniel Jones, this is a staff from Hayden Winks.
He has 36 interceptions and fumbles through 15 career games, 15 and a half career games.
That's actually hard to do.
It's like James Winston.
Can you coach this out of them ever?
I mean, honestly, it's an open question.
Like, I'm not going to pretend to know.
I just feel like it's obviously an uphill battle.
And Jason Garrett's in charge of this project.
Like, what have I seen from Jason Garrett?
But to your point, I don't know.
Because here's the thing, the quarterback.
The most underrated skill a quarterback is supposed to have.
He's supposed to know where all the 21 guys in the field are.
It's like you're a point guard.
LeBron James just knows where everyone is.
I just don't think Daniel Jones has that.
I don't think he knows where everyone around him is at all times.
He's at the top of the list of like,
oh my God, if I get five points on this drive,
I win the game in your fantasy league.
And you have Daniel Jones as your quarterback and you have no faith.
He's top three in that category.
I'm worried that everything I said about Josh Allen
is going to be true about Daniel Jones.
That's my fate.
That's my light's like a great tragedy.
It's just like I've made it come true.
It's going to come back to bite me.
All right.
Adam Gase, Daniel Jones.
You're in the book.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
That's a perfect.
That's a perfect start to the Ringer book.
That is how it should be.
We should just close it right now.
No sequel.
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That wasn't my finest, but it'll do.
Does he get a ding for that?
Do you get a ding?
It'll do.
Okay, just run through these injuries for a moment.
Torekowen tore his ACLs we mentioned.
D.K., you bump up David Montgomery for that
or just the Bears' offense?
Ever so slightly.
He'll get more passing game work, I think, now.
Ever so slightly.
Chris Carson sprained his knee for the Seahawks.
First of all, this was a dirty.
pretty play.
I mean, it was kind of
gruesome to watch.
But anyway, it's not as bad
as it looked.
He's a sprained knee.
He might actually play in week four,
which seems unlikely,
but either way,
he's not out for the season.
I joked about calling you Travis Homer
last week.
Yeah.
Do you like Carlos Hider,
Travis Homer if he's out?
I think Hyde would be the guy.
I mean,
I think that's why they signed him
is he's a similar style of player,
like a grinder,
a sustainer.
Travis Homer,
a grinder.
Between the tackles,
grinder, like something that
John Gruden would love. There's a part of
Jersey where they call, in Philly, I forget,
where they call grinders like sandwiches, like
it's a, like it's a hoagy roll.
That's a grinder? You guys are West Coast people.
Never mind. I just waited. I've never
even been to Jersey.
Hyvis, are you East Coast or West Coast? You love
Coachella, but then you're like a New York guy.
You've never seen wedding crashes. I don't know what you are.
It's a spectrum. I'm bi-coastal. Okay.
Chris Godwin had a hammy injury. He actually
came back from his
concussion this week, came out of protocol, caught a touchdown,
looked really good, and he left the hamstring injury.
Dekar, you going back to the Scotty Miller well if Chris Godwin missed his time?
This is what's going to happen.
I'm going to start Scottie Miller next week, and he's going to have two catches for eight yards,
and he's going in the book.
I know.
That was,
that's the exact scenario that I'm afraid of, because I've overhyped the guy.
And even though he, by the way, he does lead the Buccaneers and receiving so far this year.
But Mike Evans started out the game yesterday with two catches for two yards and two touchdown.
has Mike Evans is like the first wide receiver fullback like they just bring him in for one yard
old stock reincarnated no he's Jimmy Graham at the goal line for like the peak Jimmy Graham years was
just like goal line like fade routes and back shoulder routes that's that's him right now do you think
Mike Evans is already like washed up as a deep threat and he's just he's just this no no no okay
Dallas Goddard had an ankle injury the Eagles are just banged up I already gave my Eagles rant so
I mean you already answered this but basically it's not like you would go to another Eagles
tight end because obviously Zach Earths is just going to play better.
Is there any Eagles thing you like better here if Dallas got it missed his time?
But Greg Ward is like sixth on the list of people you're adding this week.
Yeah, you said it.
Nothing interesting.
Okay. Deshawn Jackson, hamstring injury, same deal.
It's not even sure things are going to miss this week, but I don't know if I would play a speed threat with the hamstring injury.
Deontay Johnson for the Steelers, he had a concussion.
It's too bad he was playing pretty well, but he got a concussion.
Didn't too much in this game.
If he's out, would you want James Washington or just, nah?
Or Chase Claypool?
Or Chase Claypool.
on the pecking order of things
I would guess that James Washington is next
I think Claypool is a really fun
stash type player who can like have a big
second half of the year I would
if I was talking about this week only I would start
Washington over Claypool
I think what do you think Craig you're this you're the Steelers fan
it's Washington I mean he just
gets more consistent targets he has a relationship
with Ben Claypool's like the Martavis Bryant
style like two catches for 70 yards
every third type of guy
you have a relationship with Pete Carroll you're not going to play
running back this week what
I guess that joke didn't land.
Never mind.
Let's just move on.
That didn't work at all.
It's okay.
Jordan Reed had an ankle and knee injury in the Giants game.
God, I already, I'm trying to wipe this game out of my memory.
I was like, would they play again?
I was like, oh, right, the one that made me really sad.
This was also really sad injury because this is a guy who's just never been able to stay healthy.
But George Kittle might return in week four, so you probably pretty safely drop Jordan Reed, right?
It's RIP.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's tough.
And then Russell Gage, who was the very popular pick to,
play for the Falcons if Julio Jones was out.
He had a concussion. He took a pretty hard hit.
So if he's out, I mean, I guess just Hayden and Hearst, my guy gets bumped up, but I don't
know if there's, I can't pronounce his name.
The third, fourth string for the Falcons is named Zakaas.
Zichias, yeah, but Julio's going to be back next week.
Yeah, so I wouldn't, I wouldn't do anything here.
It's Ridley, Ridley and Julio, yeah.
Ridley, Ridley is, I saw this from Mike Clay.
Ridley is 150 air yards between him and first, he's first in air yards,
150 yards between second place,
and he hasn't been lower than seventh in receiving
fantasy points in any of the three weeks so far?
He's a month.
He's Julio Jones.
He's going off.
Yeah, he's going on.
Okay.
So let's get into specific waivers.
So obviously, this is the opposite of last week
where none of the injuries really lead to an obvious fantasy replacement.
So with that said, let's just go position by position here
and look at some of the running backs that you might want to add this week.
Starting with Rex Burkhead, who was, I swear this is true,
and I don't know if this is a simulation,
but the number two running back for this week, D.K.
He didn't have like a prolific monster game.
I think he had, what, 14 touches, total?
Not something you'd expect the 30 plus fantasy point explosion from.
Is this just like, you know what?
This just happened.
He got three touchdowns.
It's random.
Or do you want Rex Burkhan on your team?
Why don't we do this?
Why don't we just list the running backs and then talk about how we'd order them?
All right.
So we got Rex Burkhead, Carlos, Jeff Wilson.
And then any of the running backs you'd really want to add this week?
Is that just the list?
D.K., I know you got a take about Anthony McFarland and the Steelers.
Yeah, like halfway through the Steelers game, I was like, you know what?
I was actually going to suggest James Connor for the for the burn book just because, I don't know,
I feel like I just, he's the type of a player that has just made me so mad in the past.
And I was like, I got to take.
Did he play well this week?
Yeah, like 150 yards in a touchdown.
I get a burn book him.
What?
Just because he gets like all of last.
season, he would play like a quarter and then get hurt and they're totally fucked. Every week
he'd try to start him. He'd either get hurt or like do not. He's a frustrating player.
So it's like he'd either get hurt or do something really great. And it's like the scariest thing to
start him. And I think the same thing is true this year. Like I'm starting him. He's going to get hurt again.
He is going to get hurt. He's the, you know when you see the running back and it's the first quarter and it's
zero zero and it's a four yard run and he could easily go down and it could be a four yard run,
but he just tries his fucking hardest
to make it a five-yard run.
That's James Connor.
He doesn't know when turned off.
He should play for Pete Carroll
because Pete Carroll loves grit.
I bet you he loves James Connor.
He just can't turn it off.
There's certain guys.
Like, Camaro's so smart about that.
He'll just like slip out of bounds
and not take a hit.
Connor's like, no, I want the fifth yard.
Okay, anyway.
Running backs.
Rex Burk at Carlos I, Jeff Wilson.
Well, we never got into my half-bake take.
Do we want to actually do that?
Well, we're too deep in that.
We have to do it.
My half-bake take, which...
I basically backtracked on during the game was that James Connor is the third best running back on the Steelers.
Oh, no.
Oh, my God.
So who is number one?
Benny Snell?
I don't know.
It was half baked.
I was like,
I'm going to go on a limb and say that this is like purely an emotional anger reaction that your conscious brain just then formulated to take around.
A hundred percent.
It's also me being pissed off because I started Benny Snow in a league last year.
Oh, there you go.
Okay.
And I'm like, okay.
Fucked it.
Like I'm done with the Steelers backfield.
Benny Snell and McFarland are both better than James Connor.
This was me like, this was me being like angry.
I don't actually believe it.
I'm just going to read James Conner's stat lines this week.
18 carries 109 yards a touchdown.
Four catches, 40 yards.
I mean, yeah, he looked good.
I think you should trade sell high on James Connor right now.
And that's Steeler fan for you.
They're sell high and sell healthy.
Okay, anyway.
So the streams this week, Burkhead, Carlos High, Jeff Wilson.
And sure, Anthony McFarland, whatever.
And someone dropped Benny Snell.
Who do you want from that group?
I think chasing Rex Burkhead is going to be really dangerous.
Because Cam Newton's the goal line guy and then Damien Harris, my guy is coming back from that injury that put him on IR.
I just think that chasing the Patriots, four-headed, five-headed backfield.
I mean, they got six guys getting carries each week.
You know, you know why Burkhead had such a good game is he had 10 targets.
He had seven catches, 49 yards, and a touchdown.
He was not their leading runner.
He had six carries for 49 yards and two scores.
I think the two scores are random.
Yeah.
Sony-Michel had nine carries, 170.
17 yards. They're going to get James White back here pretty soon.
I think it's Carlos Hyde, man. They're playing the dolphins. See,
the dogs are playing the dolphins next week. Carson's going to be hurt. And if they get up big,
maybe they're just going to run the ball. If you need a stream, I think you're right about the
hide thing, because presumably they'll crush the dolphins and that even if Carson comes back,
I can't imagine they would give them a normal workload. That would be like malpractice.
So I think you're right about Carlos Hyde will probably get the entire fourth quarter.
And then if you, so if you're streaming, I think that's definitely the move.
I also think Jeff Wilson's a really good stream because me too. Me too. The Niners.
So how would you rank?
that would you put hide above wilson i think i would have wilson i think i would have wilson as my number
one priority does that change all right so wilson's your number one i would go hide actually but
just because i think that the odds that chris cars well i guess travis homer will get more work but it's
kind of the same with mckenon i just honestly they're both pretty good options for this week relatively
speaking if you need help if you're trying to stash a running back is there anyone else that you
that jumps out over you to hear no not not right now i mean last week was the week this the guy
The other thing to talk about with the Patriots is like Damien Harris is going to be back off the IR at some point.
Keep an eye on him.
Maybe he's a stash.
But man,
I just like I feel like the Patriots are going to be a different offense every week.
You know,
they're going to pass every one week,
run the hell out of the ball the next week.
It's just hard to trust any of these guys in that backfield.
Yeah, the pets,
the paths give you trust issues.
All right.
Receivers,
if you're looking at receivers this week,
DK,
these are your guys.
You mentioned Justin Jefferson,
Vikings at Houston this week.
Brandon Iyuk, the 49ers.
He's like the Debo Samuel replacement
and they're playing Philadelphia this week.
Greg Ward, the AAF guy for the Eagles,
Andy Isabella for the Cardinals,
James Washington and Tennessee.
Who do you want to add this week in what order?
I think I would have Jefferson number one in that group
just because if this continues,
what we've seen in the last two weeks
where he's been sort of like the leading receiver on the team,
like if that continues,
he has potential to be a huge huge value this late
like as a way for wire ad.
The Vikings offense is pretty hit or miss right now,
but I think because their defense has struggled so badly,
they're going to be playing from behind a lot.
And they seem to jumpstart their passing offense a little bit last week.
So that could lead to big things.
So Jefferson would be my number one.
Who's number two?
Shoot, this is to,
I think I yuk,
I just want,
I just,
you know,
they're so banged up.
I think iuk is going to be the de facto number one in that offense.
You know,
once kiddo gets back,
he is the de facto number one.
But it might.
might take him a few weeks to kind of get back up to speed.
Like that, that knee injury was, was legit.
He's going to probably try and come back earlier than he's actually ready to come back
because he's just a tough SOB.
Notice Craig doesn't give Kittle any crap for trying to get an extra yard.
Stop trying to get the extra yard.
What do you guys think of Andy Isabella?
I don't.
Are you buying it?
I, no, I would much rather have Iuca Jefferson than Isabella.
And Isabella is good.
don't get me wrong, but in a 10-team league,
Isabella is like right around the range of like,
that's too risky for me.
12 teams I would think about taking a shot on Andy,
Zabella.
I have one wide receiver stash.
I would go out and get McColl Hardman
or DeMarcus Robinson on the Chiefs
just because Sammy Watkins has always hurt
and kind of so is Tyree Kill.
There's a lot of hamstring issues on that team.
And I think both these guys are very, very,
their roster percentages are super low.
So I kind of think that if you can fit it
in your bench,
grab one of those guys
would be smart.
Hardman is sort of
the Tyree Kill handcuff.
You know,
like if he gets hurt,
he plays that role.
But isn't he just kind of a decoy
and Kelsey really gets the volume?
Like,
Michael Hardman doesn't just become Tyree Kill.
Like,
he just becomes the speed element
in the offense.
He doesn't get the ball,
though.
No,
but, like,
I mean,
especially,
Demarcus Robinson's already gotten,
like,
six targets in week one.
He had like four in week two.
I just...
Robinson reminds me of Odell
and that he can make all the hard catches,
but none of the easy ones.
Yeah, I can see that.
But I still think it's kind of,
they're too good of an offense,
not to have both these guys on people's teams.
Like, if you can swing it,
I would grab one of them.
It's the year of the hamstring injury.
I don't think it's exactly a bad idea.
Receiver, so we like,
I think we all agree.
Jefferson is the top one.
I yuk,
and then I guess Isabella and James Washington
if Deonti Johnson's out.
Do you guys have an opinion
on how much money you spend on a free agent?
Like, just to talk about the percentage of the...
I'm always hesitant to give that specific
out because it matters in your league.
Like if you're 0 and 2, it's different
than being timid out.
Like if you're own two, like you need to win.
Like everybody always underpays.
Like I always think like maybe I get Justin Jefferson for $8.
And then like waivers goes through
and then I check in somebody spent like 28.
And I'm like, oh.
And then the season ends and I have $60.
And I'm like, yeah, I probably should have spent that.
I don't love the 5% of your budget advice
because that assumes that everyone in your league
is like a very sound financial planner.
That's the thing.
Just takes one psycho.
It's like, well,
If someone is checking their league and is like, oh shit, Christian McCaffrey's out.
I need to get Mike Davis.
You're like, oh, I guess my season's over if he's out.
And they pay $70.
Ultimately, if you want someone, you've got to go get them.
And so it really matters on your record, in my opinion.
When Leonard Fournet got traded or released or whatever, somebody in my league spent like
$58 on a Zygbo.
Yeah.
See, that's the tough part.
That's the tough one.
So on that note, I'm so hesitant.
Like, just you got to know your league.
That's just an example.
You got to know who's wild.
with the money. Okay, tight end real quick. Eric Ebron, if he's around, is probably a really good one.
Deonti Johnson's out. And then Moeale, my guy, Jack Doyle, has a neck injury and has really not been
great. And I will take, you know what? I think the neck injury has been tough on my guy.
And I think that's not great, you mean zero targets when he played yesterday. I think that the neck
injury, he's rebounding. They played the jets. They didn't need a big game from him. So, you know,
I think that he's going to bounce back strong.
but you should probably add more Ali Cox
I like I like Ali Cox in this offense because you see you baby
I mean he's a former basketball player which is the number one thing I mean
Antonio Gates 2.0 really right I said Jack Doril be Antonio Gates what I meant was
Moe Ali Cox would be Antonio Gates Doyle to me is just this checkdown he'll get you
it's like the if you need three yards I'll get you three yards
all right what's the expression you know you know I'm talking about the
the expression.
If you need 10 yards,
if you need five yards,
and if you need five yards,
and if you need 10 yards,
I totally butchered it.
But he's not like a,
he's not like a seam,
like take the top of a defense
or real red zone threat type guy.
I'm talking about Doyle.
Perhaps I misallocated my enthusiasm
for the Indianapolis,
Frank Reich,
Philip Rivers,
obsession with tight ends.
And I looked at,
and I felt that Moe Alley Cox,
because he's a VCU basketball player,
was not ready to play at this level.
Jack Doe is all they had.
And it turns out Mo Ali Cox is ready.
So I actually think this is legit.
They tight ends are a huge part of the offense and pairs Campbell's hurt.
In your defense,
I mean,
Ali Cox was like third on the depth chart coming into the season.
So it's not like this was an obvious play.
He got in and showed what he could do when Doyle got hurt.
I think that was like he capitalized on his breakout opportunity.
And so my guess is that they're going to keep going with him because he's more dynamic.
And so now will that keep up when they,
get,
Trey Burton apparently was like
just making incredible waves during training cam.
And so he might kind of steal that once he comes back.
But yeah,
for now,
Moa-Cox is really interesting.
All right.
And then last step,
defenses to look at,
I would just say target the Jets.
The Broncos, Cardinals, and Chargers are coming up.
They seem like barely an NFL team.
And then also buys are starting a week.
It's not a bad idea if you don't need anything immediately
to look ahead and be like,
all right,
what are my buys going to be in week five?
So if you need a defense,
targeting the jets seems like a sound strategy.
strategy and same with quarterbacks.
So just take a gander at the terrible, terrible teams.
By the way, the expression is, if you need one yard, I'll get you three yards.
If you need five yards, I'll get you three yards.
I think I got the gist.
I got the spirit of three.
I just feel terrible because that's like the most common expression ever.
But yeah, not quite the most ever.
But you know what?
Yeah, it's used.
Okay.
All right.
Is that all we got for today?
I think that's everything.
All right.
Yeah.
So, all right.
So Adam Gase and Daniel Jones, you're in a burn book.
so you're dead to us.
The doctor stabbed Tyrod Taylor is the winner of the week,
and you guys have to drink a beer in a frosted mug.
Figured out, D.K.
All right.
Thank you, D.K.
Thank you, Craig.
Thank you to everyone for listening.
And we'll see you guys on Wednesday.
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