The Ringer NFL Show - WR Arguments: Tyreek Over the Hill, the Deebo-demption, George Pickens Is Steven Seagal, and Virtually Milking a Cow

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

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Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hifax. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Krolloveka. Today we are going over all the wide receivers. Well, not all the wide receivers, but many wide receivers that are vexing us to the 2025 season, we got a bunch of categories going to go through. I think I'm more excited for the receiver position this year

that I have in, I don't have a specific time set going back. I feel like I could have six years. I don't know. But I'm just looking at the top 12 guys right now. I just Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, C.D. Lehm, Amon Ross St. Brown, Brian Thomas, Malik neighbors, Nico Collins, Pooka, A.J. Brown, Ladd-McConkie, Drake, London, Mike Evans, Terry McLauron. Like, that's the top 13.

I am more confident in, like, that top 13 than I can ever remember. There's been some incredible years, but I feel incredible about all those dudes. Don't you feel the way, D.K.? Oh, yeah, absolutely. And the fact that, so right now, AJ Brown is our ninth receiver. Like that says a lot, I feel like, because he's just so freaking good. But yeah, we're living in the golden age of receiving and receivers. This is like what it was for running back when I first started getting into fantasy.

It was like the running back for the coolest thing. Now it's now it's wide receivers. Now the first pick is probably going to be a wide receiver. You want to get out of the first round for the first two rounds with at least one elite wide receiver. And like the cool thing in drafting now is to like just go heavy wide receiver. And there's always like one or two guys in your league that just has like three of the top 20 receivers in the league and then just figures the rest out.

And I'm always jealous of that team. So it's so sexy, you know? It's just like having three sports cars in like no minivan. Yeah, totally. It's awesome. I don't know what they drive in the winter. You have to put a bike rack on your Lamborghini. Yeah.

So I want to start here with the hardest player to rank. D.K., who is the hardest wide receiver for you to rank this season? I mean, I think it's Tyree Kill right now just because he is at, it feels like a turning point in his career where he could either basically get back to like the elite level that he was two years ago. Like in obviously in 2023, he was wide receiver one in points per game. Last year fell all the way down to wide receiver 35 in points for game,

19 point or basically 20 points per game to almost 10 points per game last year. That's all I mean, that's like half. I mean, I'm not good at math, but it's around half as good as what he was before. So I think there's so many questions about his health. There's so many questions about where his heads at.

There's questions about the offense. There's questions about whether two, can say healthy. He is just the biggest wild card, I think, in this draft. And he's the type of player who, it wouldn't surprise me if we're in week eight, and he's the number one receiver. He's on pace for 2,000 yards again. Or he's like asking to be off the team. You know what I mean? Like there's no, there's no in between. I don't know where to land on him. Yeah, sometimes the wide receiver cliff can drop off quick, right? It's like Keenan Allen kind of overnight. It was over. And Tyreek is one of those guys. Yeah, I agree with you, D.K. I think I haven't seen enough

red flags on the field for me to officially give up. Like it was one down season. The Miami offense was the worst it's been since he was on the team. To it didn't, two a missed seven games. And just like the entire offense was kind of a disaster. And Tyreek was beat up. And he's 31 years old.

I still feel like if I had to lean one way, I would lean. Tyreeks going to have 1,500 yards next year, rather than he's going to have 900 again, I think. And we've got him ranked a little bit. above consensus. So I think we agree on that. Right. Havits, wouldn't you agree? The red flags aren't

that strong so far, right? Well, I'm torn. I mean, well, red flags with it. On the field, on the field, for sure. Well, on top of everything else to him, there was another off-season incident with him this year. I mean, the police were called to his home by his mother-in-law. There were no charges filed or anything, but it's just like another, it's just more shit with this guy. And so,

I mean, I don't think Tyra Kills is the easiest person in the world to root for. And so when you also kind of hate, and then you watch play football and also the dolphins are awful. Anytime two it gets hurt, the team is honestly as horrific in offense as there is in the NFL when two is out. And then I don't know. I just frankly, just everything about it.

I mean, Tyree Kill himself is saying that like he has to earn his, I mean, he was a captain on the team. Frankly, the dolphins have a crisis of leadership on the team because they have, Tyra Kill was a captain who wanted a trade if the season is over. Jalen Ramsey was a captain on the team who wants to trade even more than Tyra Kill does. Jailen Ramsey still wants a trade. Tehran Armstead was the left. was a captain and he retired.

And then Calais Campbell left. All the captains on this team are gone. And so Tyree Kill is like, yeah, I have to earn it back. And then on top of it, you're like, he's the all-time speed guy in the NFL history, probably Tyree Kill. But speed guys are the ones that when they hit that 30, 31-year-old thing. You know, it's on Tavanti Adams where you're winning with like technique and polish and route running. It's savvy, I guess, for lack of a better term. It's like Kelsey can win when he's slow.

It's like, Tyree Kill, it's like, what does slower Tyree Kill look like? I don't know what that will be. What does Tyree Kill 87% of his top speed look like? I don't know what that's going to be. But overall, I'm like, I'm kind of done with this dude, not going to lie. I mean, that's fair. It's a risk, I'd say. He's one of the bigger risks early on in your draft that you can take.

It's obviously there's a potential for it to pay off really strong. But again, you're now getting him at like the end of the second beginning of the third where I think the risk is removed there. Not removed, but it's lesser for sure. I put him in that other buck. So we said the top 12 or whatever, and I'll just list the guys again because it's Unbelievable. Someone has to be the ninth guy in this list, which I think is funny, but Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, C.D. Lamb, I think that's a tier. Amon Ross St. Brown, Brian Thomas for the Jags, Maliknaz, for the Giants, Nick Negris, who I mean, led the league in receiving yards. He got hurt last year. Puckooleck, on the Rams. A.J. Brown, on the Eagles. Ladd McConke and the charges, 200 receiving yards in the playoffs. Drake London and the Falcons, who quietly was like a top three receiver, I think, where Michael Pennicks took over. Mike Evans, who somehow got 2,000 yards again. Terry McLoren, who revived with Jane Daniels. That's like 13 to me. And if you can cut that. line higher if you want to put Evans and McLaurin down.

But then there's Evans, McClaree Kill, T. Higgins, Devante Adams on the Rams now, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba. I think Tyreek is somewhere in that group, and you could convince me that he should be at the top of it. But you also could convince me Tyree Kill should be at the absolute bottom of that group and maybe even below some other dudes. But it depends. Just the vibes are bad.

That's all. The vibes, no offense to Carlos, but the vibes in Miami are horrific. The vibes in Miami have fallen off a fucking cliff. The offensive line didn't get that much better. And I think that's the most important part to me with the dolphins going to the season is I don't, I think the dolphins did some things to improve their offensive line like long term. I'm sorry, I don't want to butcher the pronunciation of the guard they drafted. And it's Jonah, I'm going to Savanaia. I'm sorry.

His name is Jonah. And he should be great. But like it's not like the dolphins have a great plan to, I mean, they brought Liam Eichenberg back like Austin Jackson. Like all the players, dolphins fans complain about are still on this offensive line minus her on arm. So, like, I don't know if Miami's going to be able to run the ball. I feel like people are going to be mad. So, I don't know, kind of out of Tyre Kills. Poor Carlos.

Because he just could be one of those guys where the guy who doesn't pay that much attention in your draft just shows up. And he's like, Tyree killed, third round, let's do it. And he wins. And he's awesome. No, you're, we joke, shout out to my friend, Andrew Rowe, who is that guy in our league, who fantasy football, fantasy baseball, hasn't, like, seemingly watched baseball since 2016 and then ends up with the team with like Aaron Judge El Tuve,

Cody Bell, everyone with Freddie Freeman, and then suddenly like, and then he wins. And it's like, that's this year. You're going to get Kelsey. You're going to get Tyree Kill. You're going to get all these guys and you're just going to win your league. So, okay. Craig, who's the hardest player for you to rank? For me, it's Rishi Rice on the Chiefs.

It's puzzling. It really is because I feel like there are different circumstances, but the vibe heading into this year is kind of similar to Rishi Rice heading into last year, where it was like last year it was the looming suspension. but he was coming off kind of a one, two-month stretch where he was genuinely like the best receiver on the Chiefs. It was his rookie season

and that last like six, seven weeks, he took off and was like a top 10 wide receiver and everybody was like, is this real? And the people who bet on it, it paid off for the first month of the season until he got hurt. He was incredible.

He was the number three wide receiver in fantasy through the first three weeks of the season and then he tore his ACL with that weird injury where like he ran it, Mahomes ran into it. Oh, my God. It took his knee out. It took his knee out. Which just ruined my fantasy season personally.

But now it's kind of a similar thing where it's like there is something kind of, there's a cloud over this season. Last year it was the suspension. This year it's the injury, obviously. But you look at the numbers and you're like, man, like, you know, he injured at week four. It's almost going to be a year of recovery. You kind of asked the question, like, is it the role that Rashire has why he's so good or is it his talent?

Because he basically is like, everyone's talking about who's going to be the next Travis Kelsey. Is it a tight end? I think it's Rishi Rice. Like the stat lines Rishie Rice is putting up the way they use him is these like easy routes, get the ball on his hand early. The week before he got hurt, he had 14 targets, 12 catches, 110 yards in a touchdown. That's a Travis Kelsey ass stat.

It's like crossing routes over the middle of the field where he runs and catches. And I'm kind of like, man, I know we always don't like to get the guy after the injury. But with this one, I'm like, Sometimes the injury is early enough. I'm like, hey, he had a year rest. And I'm like, if he's just still getting these like easy, tailored targets in this offense, could he just jump right back to being a top 10 wide receiver? We have him ranked all over the place.

I have him 46. High Fitz, you have him 88. You have him 40 spots below me. And I get the injury thing. I know you also have to factor in like, Xavier Worthy starting to become a thing. Markis Brown is there. There's more going on. So it's very hard for me.

I can see it going both ways. I was going to add that to, Craig, is that they're continuing. to invest in wide receivers after, you know, and I think there's just the bottom line is you can't really trust Rishie Rice right now. That, you know, with the legal stuff still hanging over his head. But they drafted Xavier Worthy in the first round last year, and he definitely played, I think, a lot better than some people thought he would.

Hollywood Brown, they re-signed him. He's still around. Not that he's like a big threat to Rishie Rice, but he's still around. And then Jalen Royals, who got a lot of comps to Rishie Rice prior to the draft, comes in, and he's essentially an insurance, a piece of insurance for the chiefs if Rishi Rice is on if he's not healthier for he's not able to play and they still have a long history of doing that too. I mean, frankly, the chief's legal issues with the receivers.

I mean, they drafted Bichael Harbin purely because they thought Tyree Kiel might be suspended for longer than he eventually was. And they'll be clear. Yeah, and Rish Rys, to be clear, DeVere did get suspended, but it's just been this looming thing ever since that. They have a whole bunch of guys like Rishie Rice. Like, Juju Smith-Schuster's still there. Well, they just, they don't have a, they don't have like a, they have a bunch of guys that should be

playing. I mean, so to speak, in the slot that should be like working in the middle of the, like Rishi Rice and Hollywood Brown and Marquis Brown and these are all, especially, but they don't have, even like a Josh Reynolds, you know, they could use some kind of boundary receiver and they just don't have it.

And so they have a bunch of duplicative pieces, or is that the right word? That's not a duplicative. Redundant pieces. I don't know what I'm saying. Duplicated, I think that works. Yeah. Oh, okay, cool.

Well, good job. It doesn't really work if you doubt it. He's like, oh. I'm not used to his positivity. and support. I got to see about the Rishi Rice injury. I'm kind of kind of want to learn more back out. I mean,

he's practicing it right now. But to your point, I agree though, because like the timing of the injury, I mean, also the nature of the injury does matter. Like, if it's early enough in the season, like the three months, getting to recover for nine or 12 months does matter in terms of whether you're good enough to be an exceptional NFL athlete by week one. Like, it does matter sometimes. So we'll see.

But yeah, I agree. I don't know where to rank Rishie Rice at all. His target share the first month of the season was 34%, meaning Patrick Mahalms, 34% of the targets thrown to pass catchers went to Rishi Rice, which would be number one in the NFL. Like, they used him and throw the ball to him so much

that I'm like, man, us putting him at wide receiver 30. Like, it could be one of those weak ones where he has nine catches for 87 yards and a touchdown, and you're like, oh, this was obvious. So I want to get the six to bid night, the bonged guys, the guys you're too horny for. Craig, who is a player you're too horny for?

for this season. Is it possible to say I'm too horny for literally the best player in fantasy because I am. It's Jamar Chase. I said it coming out of last year. I've never had him on a fantasy team and I was like, I will do everything in my power to draft. I just, I don't care if I have to overspend. And maybe

that's stupid. That's what I wanted to ask you guys about. To me, when I think of like an ideal environment for a wide receiver in fantasy football, Jamar Chase has it. He's this year. He's directly in his prime. He's 25. He has a great quarterback who doesn't run. Who is also his college quarterback. Who also is, yeah, right, who has the chemistry.

They've been playing together for, I mean, we're coming up on like seven years of Perrault and six, seven years. This is going to go down as one of the all-time duos. He has, there's a great number two, I receiver on the team to kind of limit double teams. There's no strong tight end or strong running game to kind of like threaten red zone production or touchdowns. The defense sucks. So they're always in shootouts. The only thing I could think would be better is if they played in a dome. They play outside.

But I'm like, man, outside of that, like, I, you. cannot build a more perfect situation for a receiver in fantasy. But I want to ask you guys, is it fundamentally stupid for me to draft a guy who last year had the best year of his career? I mean, Jamar Chase had the best year since Cooper Cup's Triple Crown in fantasy last year. It's been the best season since. Is that dumb to be like, he's going to do that again because they never do it. Right. I don't think so. Jamar Chase, I think the point is Jamar Chase is 25 years old. Like, we don't talk about it enough. Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson are the two best receivers of the decade. Like the 2020s, like the best true series are Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson.

They happen to be teammates in college, which is weird. But it, I mean, I mean, if you just look at Jamar Chase's first 60 games in his career, the only players who had more like fantasy points in the first 60 games of their career are like Odell Beckham, Randy Moss, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Jerry Rice, Julio Jones. Like, it's just a list of the best receivers ever. Like it's a list of like the extended Mount Rushmore Julio Jerry Rice like fucking Randy Moss And the players with more touchdowns through 60 games To start a career

Or Randy Moss Rob Grankowski and Jerry Rice And then Jamar Chase is fourth Like he's legitimately just one of the He's Jumar Chase is on path To be one of the 12 best receivers in the history of the NFL As is Justin Jefferson I know my yeah my reaction to Craig To everything you just said is

That no it's not crazy But like mainly it's funny It's funny to me because That you're talking about his situation being so great, which it is. Undoubtedly a great situation, but Chabar Chase is also just that guy. Like, he is as, like, he is

like almost an ideal receiver in every way other than like maybe he's not like super tall, but he's really strong, really explosive, wins at the catch point, can get deep. You know, he is like built in a lab to play receiver. I think he's going to go down as one of the best receivers of all time.

And so like banking on him having, you know, the exact same season as his next year or his last year is probably not smart. but as long as he's healthy, I think he's going to be producing like big time numbers. We talked about this in the run-up to the draft for that year where Jamar Chase is like a,

like I remember growing up my favorite combo in the NFL was Larry Fitzgerald and Anquam Bolden at receiver, which felt like a mix of Chase and Higgins almost. But honestly, Jamar Chase is some of the best qualities of Larry Fitzgerald and Ann Quant Bolden together. Like he's kind, I don't know if he's quite as fast as like peak Larry Fitz like when he was like young.

I think he is. He probably is actually. Yeah. But like he has more physical. than Larry Fitzgerald did. I think he is closer to Bolden and the physicality. He's crazy strong. He's that like stockiness, lower body strength.

And I think that he, yeah. And Chase is probably a notch below. I think Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald are the two best high point catch receivers I've ever seen. And I think DeAndre Hopkins probably is like second tier. Chase is probably closer to that. But like it's in the conversation. I think that's the other funny thing about Chase and Jefferson is like it turns

high point of the football. I mean, oh my God. Like it's Jefferson. And the other guy in the conversation is Dee Hagan. So there's everything you want with Chabar Chase. And also, he's only 16 years old. I know, 25. That's crazy.

And I don't even think, I think he's a real 25. We got to see, is he actually going to be 26? Let me check. No, I think he's birthday already passed. I agree. Yeah, March 1, he turned 25. That's great. He's genuinely like, I told you guys this, that this is why I was upset that I came out

against the Bengals last year because I feel like I didn't make it clear enough that Jamar Chase is like my favorite, like non-giant. Like, Jamar Chase, when I got mad a couple years ago, the first thing I did was Flip Sequin for Jamal for Jamar Chase. So he's unbelievable. DK, who is your player you're too horny for? I mean, we don't have to go down the list very far here.

It's C.D. Lamb. I think Cid Lam. Don't go down on a limb here. We like the next guy. I know. Well, I think it's the same story. It's basically very similar kind of, I guess, narrative to what Craig was saying is like,

are we betting that he's going to recreate what he's been doing the last couple of years? You know, on a team that has more weapons now with Pickens is in town. A new head coach. Like, there's going to be a lot of differences in this offense. Like, how do we feel about Dak Prescott? But I still just think, like, having CD Lamb on your team, it's not as, it's not quite to the level of Jamar Chase.

Like, Jamar Chase, it feels like you're invincible. C.D. Lamb, if he's like in your lineup, you're like, I'm winning. You know what I mean? Like, there's, I'm not going to lose. And I think there's a world in which I think Pickens actually really helps CD because it gives that, it's, like, stretches the way that teams have to play defense against you. It helps them out in the middle of the field. You know, I think Pickens is going to create some gravity on the outside.

And so CD, just gobbling up targets in the middle of field, obviously has a ton of chemistry with DAC. He's the number one guy on that offense, even though he was saying it's him and Pickens 1B, 1A. Not true. I just think he has a chance to absolutely go nuclear again this year. And I'm just going to be trying to get him as much as possible. And again, I know I'm not going out on a limb here, but like CDAM is just he has that cool factor. And it does feel like because of last year's disappointing season in Dallas, it feels like CD, honestly probably should just be on par price wise with Jamar Chase. You can probably get them for like three to five dollars cheaper.

And it is just like the same thing as Jim R Chase in terms of like volume and skill and talent and ceiling. Yeah, I hate the Cowboys, but CD Lam's pretty sick. He's unbelievable. Craig, do you think Pickett, do you agree with D.K.? Like that George Pickens is going to be helping CD? I do agree that he's going to be helping Citi but if we go to our next category here which is the hipster where it's the player

everybody loves that you don't I'm going to pick George Pickens there not saying that I don't know if everybody's like on board with this but I do think the general vibe coming out of that trade was like this is great for Pickens this is great for the Cowboys good job they needed a second wide receiver that's fair you know I think

part of the reason why the Steelers got rid of Pickens is like one it was a contract year and would he be pissed playing second fiddle to D.K. Metcalf? Well, welcome to Dallas, buddy. You're next to Ciddy Lamb,

like the best wide receiver in the league. I think Cedie's going to get a ton of targets and pick-ins is probably going to be pissed by like week three. And they're going to use him as like Michael Gallup. And it's like he's going to have games where he has 100 yards and two touchdowns. And he's going to have games

where he has like two catches for nine yards. And I don't know if, I don't know if he's like capable of of being that mature. He reminds me, we just did a rewatchables on the movie Out for Justice

starring Steven Seagall. And with Bill and Kyle Brandt, really funny. I recommend it. And there was an anecdote in it. First of all, Stephen Seagall, not a good dude.

But, but man, a true unicorn in Hollywood. Like, just like... One of the all-time weirdos. Like, quick back, like, he was the

jujitsu instructor from Michael Ovitz, the guy who started CAA, and Mike Ovitz was basically like, I'm going to make you a movie star for shits and giggles because I'm bored. And it worked.

And for like 10 years, Seagall was like a real action star that people thought was cool and he made a lot of money. Yeah. But the movies are terrible. But they're so terrible that they're kind of fun. But anyway, on this movie Out for Justice, the co-stars, the villain guy was so good in the movie while filming it. That Seagull was so mad that this guy was so awesome and was like genuinely nailing his role that he went to the director and was like, we have to cut some of his scenes, William Forsyth. he's like he's stealing my thunder. I don't want that.

Even though he was a better actor and made the movie better, I kind of see the same thing with the Cowboys where it's like C.D. Lamb is better than me. He's a better wide receiver and he helps us win by throwing him the ball more. And Piggins ain't going to be down with that. And I do think that there's a potential kind of blow up drama possibility here with Piggins in Dallas.

Yeah, I like, I think first of all, that's set and scourgamy. I think you're the first person to ever compare George Pickens to Stephen Seagal. But no, it's kind of like it don't invade Russia in the winter. Don't fight anyone at a bar with cauliflower ear and don't take any receivers that Mike Tomlin has given up on. Like, who is the last person to be like, yeah, this talented Steelers receiver is just like available for cheap. That's going to go great. Emmanuel Sanders left the Pittsburgh Steelers and had his career year with Broncos. That's fair.

So we're one for eight, basically. One of the other ones. Chase Claypool, Marta, Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown is a special case. but yeah. Yeah, he was better than all of the other ones. And then Tom Brady couldn't figure that shit out. I mean, he was, no, that's, I think that's untrue because Antonio Brown was good when he was playing.

He was just too crazy to do anything else. That's the point. Like, they literally keep trying. They're so fucking different. Pickens versus Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown was way, way, way, way, way further. I think not when he left the Steelers. I'm saying he's way, way, way, way further into his career.

Okay, fair, but no one had the perception. of how crazy Antonio Brown. No one's even close to how crazy he was when he was on Pittsburgh. No one had any idea how nuts he was. I think the point is generally for whatever reason, when the Steelers give up on a wide receiver, it's usually for a good reason. I think that's probably true.

And honestly, like, I understand all the points you guys are making. But I think it's like punishing pick-ins for what Martavis Bryant did, what Antino-Brown did, what all these other guys did, I think is a little bit unfair because I think, I don't know. I guess I'm just like, I think he's going to work out. For some reason,

I have faith that he's going to work out in Dallas. I think it's a good landing spot for him. Like, all the places he could have landed, this would make sense. And like, I do understand the idea that he's going to be pissed at C.D. Lamb.

And that's a great analogy that you made with Seagall. But like, the quarterback upgrade, I think is going to be good enough where he's going to, he's going to be happy enough with what he's getting. In other words, like, Pickens with the Steelers, like, and their offense has always been really fucking dysfunctional.

Yeah. Like Kenny Pickett, Mitchell Churisky, Mason Rudolph, Russell Wilson, Justin Fields. Did he play with Rothsburger for a year? I can't remember. No. Whatever. If it did, it was really late career, Rosszberger. So, um, I don't know. I just think getting it, you know, getting even at Georgia, Stetson Bennett. He doesn't have a good quarterback. So look, I, I put, I put Pickens as one of my sleepers. I actually think, I think the perception is going a little overboard with him. I do, I do go in with a little bit of trepidation that he's just too much of a headcase and maybe this isn't going to work out. I think that's, that's perfectly valid to, like, be worried about that. But if you look at the fit, if you look at, I think it's going to be CD and Pickens. They're the

top two guys. They're going to get fed a huge amount of targets. And I actually saw this from Warren Sharp. Like, if you look at the heat maps of where the targets come from for both CD and pickens, If you overlay them, it's like, that's the whole field because Pickens is getting all his targets on the outside, go routes, vertical routes. He does do it. He does, I think he's actually pretty good at some of the other routes. He's like, he's underrated. He's not just like a deep ball guy. But like he's obviously very good on go routes and outside stuff.

And by the way, DAC is also very good at making those throws. Dak is a great quarterback for Pickens. I'll give you that. I kind of just feel like maybe this is me just being kind of, you know, what's the word word? like I just want to go against what you guys are saying. Contrarian. The whole categories that I think I'm, I think people agree with you, D.K. Okay. Like I'm, this is the hipster choice because I do think that everybody is agreeing with your perspective on this.

And I'm kind of trying to go against the grain. Yeah. I don't know. I think it's certainly fair to the giving up on like when Tomlin gives up on a person. That's our huge red flag. That's true. But also I think, I don't know, this specific scenario, Every human being is different.

I think in this specific specific scenario, I don't know, I'm just kind of bullish on Pickens. Maybe I'm, maybe I'm being nervous. And again, it's a contract year for Pickens.

So unless the Cowboys, you know, and maybe they'll pay him the day of the season begins, but like, probably not. So he's our wide receiver 33. I just feel like,

I don't know, I'm willing to take a bet on him at that around that range. It's all over the place. Anything could happen. You're right. If Dallas is good and the offense is firing,

there's probably enough targets to go around for Pickens to succeed. But like, you also could see them losing a game or winning a game in week three, Pickens has three catches for 20 yards and he's fucking pissed in the press conference.

Bill Bourne will have a column this week for ESPN. Shout up Bill, who said Pickens probably has as wider range of potential outcomes for the season as any player. I think that's true. You would be hard pressed to find three players who could,

you could plausibly believe what I, like, Pickens could have a Cadarius, Tony. Pickens could not be playing football by week nine. Pickens also could just be like, Pickens and CD could be top five from receiving yards. by week nine. I would not be shocked by either of those things. Totally. So, okay, my, my hipster thing of just like the player team that everyone loves that I'm kind of

like, I don't know, this is fucked up, but my, my one is Malik neighbors. Oh. For the giant, my beloved, what kind of hated giants? This is just protecting his own, like, yeah, I think this is like self-preservation. You're protecting your, your mental health here. Yeah, this is like the ego, just like, you know, so, you know, casting a spell. But I, basically, I, I'm debating a rule this year that when you plug a receiver, you have to, to say end their quarterback. And so let me read you the top receiver. But the receivers you could draft in the first round this year.

Let me read you this list. You could take Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow. You could take C.D. Lamb and Dak Prescott. You could take Justin Jefferson and J.J. McCarthy. Okay. You could take Amon Ross St. Brown and Jared Gough. You could take Brian Thomas and Trevor Lawrence. You could take Malik Neighbors and Russell Wilson.

Nico Collins and C.J. Stroud. Pooka Nacca and Matt Stafford, which of those stuck out to you? Yeah. And I think that's just my fear is like, again, the week one test. How long into one game of Russell Wilson's sucking would you be like, I should not have taken Malik Neighbors? I think that's all very fair, but may I point you in the direction of last year? That is the argument against it, yes.

Is it worse than last year? Malik Neighbors was second in the NFL on targets last year. He was leading to the league in catches. I mean, he got concussed. I mean, the Giants genuinely leaned on Lake Neighbors more to start a career than any player, probably in history of the NFL. Like, he led the league in catches two weeks into his... That's, like, unprecedented for a rookie to be leading the league in catches like that. So, yeah, again, it's not like Russell Wilson.

He actually can throw to the areas of the field where they had Malik Neighbors running around. So I'm not like, I'm not actually saying don't draft Malik Neighbors. I'm just saying the, like, if you had to pick which one of these could not work out and you feel stupid about it, that's the one. If Brian Thomas loses snaps to Travis Hunter and Travis Hunter is better than Brian Thomas saying, you're like, oh, that's hard to see coming. Like if Pooka Nukua gets hurt, you're like, oh, maybe I should do. But if Russell Wilson and the Giants suck, you're going to feel stupid. That's all. I have the worst fucking attorneys.

You've got to have good attorneys. That's all I'm saying. I'm still saying it was a good player. You should take them high. Do you think the passing environment this year will be better or worse than last year? Just different. I was actually, I was going to say, for some reason I felt like there was. there like a lot of rumors this off season that the giants were going to pick up some big

receiver was it piggins maybe that they're interested in i can't remember stafford that was the big one the rumor was that the giants were going to trade for stafford when we were at the combine and i think they were trying oh but maybe it was just talk of like them taking travis hunter or something but like i'm looking at the giants receiving core right now and my god it is really something i don't care about that like i'm fine i have no problem if you're building an NFL team to deal with that no i'm not What I'm saying, what my point, I guess is that they're going to be forced to feed Malik neighbors again. It's Devonty Adams Packers desk. Here's the depth at the receiver position for the Giants.

Darius Layton is the number two ostensibly. And he's fine. They just gave Sequin's money to $12 million a year. That was the Sequin. The only signed with Eagles. Then you got Wondell Robinson, who's not really a receiver. Zach Pascal. He's not really a receiver because he's small?

He's like a running back. He had like 96 catches last year. I know. Okay, but he's not a real receiver. I agree. Yeah, I agree. He's a slot. I hate the Wondale casting drives me crazy.

If you watch the Giants, literally every defensive strategy is just make him check down the Wondale. We'll tackle him short of the sticks. And every third down is what happens. Jalen Hyatt, who did not work out, Amir Smith, Marsett, Bryce Ford Wheaton, Montreau, Washington, little Jordan Humphrey, DeQuon, Jules, Jordan Blythe, Bo Collins. Are you just making names up. Yeah, I'm just like... Both Collins is Benson Boone's little...

He's the bassist for Benson Boone. Juice Wells? Juice Wells. Don't know him. Juice Wells, he sounds like Keith Richards drug drug dealer. Juice Wells. He was doing jujitsu with Stephen Seagull.

That sounds like a character on Friday Night Lights. Yeah. Bryce Ford Wheaton. Wasn't he the super fast guy? He was the West Virginia undrafted free agent who tours a C.L. We were actually at Craig's wedding talking about with his friend, Chris. And we were sitting there talking about Bryce Ford. for the Giants.

Haifitz. If your sole purpose was to give Malik neighbors the best fantasy season possible. Jamis. Jamis Winston plays weeks one to 17 and throws them the ball 40% of the time. Who's last? Dart. Dart. Okay.

It has to be dark. Because Dart, I mean, it doesn't matter. I think Russ, I actually think Russ can, I mean, Neighbors is better than D.K. Metcalfe. And D.K. Metcalfe. I mean, Neighbors is better than D.K. Metcalfe. And so, neighbors is, I feel like people,

Neighbors is extremely good. Like if Malik was on a real team, he would be fucking incredible. I think neighbors is potentially a top six receiver. Like, to be clear, I'm not saying Neighbors is bad. I'm simply giving you permission.

Sure. Like we have Malik Neighbors ranked really high. We have neighbors ranked 11th. You could convince me you could take him sixth if you want. I'm just giving you permission. If you want to take Nico Collins, Pooka, Brock Bowers,

A.J. Brown over neighbors, because you're like, I don't want to watch Russell Wilson 17 weeks or whatever and then Dart like I totally get that that's what I'm saying like you're going to spend a lot of time

with this Giants offense we've made fun of for six fucking years for not being able to score like yeah that that kind of sticks out I'm in these first round teams that's what I'm saying

sleepers Craig give me a sleeper at receiver for the season um Juan Jennings on the Niners I just love I just love this guy

I picked him up last year he was fantastic when Iuke went down Debo was not the same guy last year. Juan Jennings was just like the most reliable receiver on the team outside of Pickens. I mean, outside of Kittle.

And Purdy loved him. Niners fans call him third in Juan. He's incredibly reliable. And he became the most clutch player in the team. He had an incredibly high target share when he was on the field last year. They threw to him a lot. Dibu's gone.

Ayuk's coming back from this brutal knee injury. Kittles in his 30s. I just think he's like a very unsexy, like a name that nobody really talks about, but he's super productive and will probably outperform wherever he gets drafted this year. Yeah, I like this one a lot. I think he's, it's

one of those things where it took him a while to get going, but he's always been someone who's on my radar because I've always thought he's like pretty good. He just landed with the 49ers team, and I think he was undrafted or late round. It was like six or seven round. He was a guy I had on my radar coming out of Tennessee. He was like one of the best run after

catch players in college football. And that is obviously always the 49ers' MO is like get guys who can catch ball and run after catch, just beast mode after the catch. And Juan Jennings is absolutely that guy. But I think it just took him a while to get established. And so now people are not believing that it's real. And it might not be real, I guess,

but like because they have Ayuk and Pearsall. But I mean, at the end of the day, the fact is he is like their number one receiver right now. And he's probably going to continue to be that until Ayuk is fully healthy. And what that might not even be this year. We, well, we have this. We always talk about this. but you're just basically anchored to whatever your perception of a player was coming into the league.

So one of the reasons I think Brock Purdy took so long to accept Brock Purdy was like an average runner quarterback was, or sorry, Ninety fans are going to lose their fucking minds above average, whatever the fuck you want to say, was he was Mr. Irrelevant. It's just like we weren't expecting him to be good. If he'd been taken first overall, we probably would have said Purdy was good, but he was taken last instead of first. So it took a long time. I think similarly, like Joanne Jennings being like 217th overall or whatever, Juan Jennings was, they're just mentally, like, there's a block to accepting that he's just as good

as the numbers. It takes twice as long to earn it. Yeah, Amon Ross St. Brana's that problem where he just was, like, the best receiver in fantasy for the final six weeks of a season. And then just wasn't a top 50 pick because people are like, is that real? And I think that's a really good thing to identify, Craig, that, like, Joanne, if he had been a second round pick and done that had the same year, we'd be like really hyping him up. But you're almost getting a discount because he's the first three seasons.

of his career. He didn't. He had like 900 yards. 100%. Funnily enough, my sleeper this year is the guy that Joanne's kind of not quite replacing, but Debo Samuel for the 49ers who was traded to Washington. I just frankly embedding that like, I just think everyone thinks Debo is completely washed and I actually think there's upset. I'm not saying 2021 with Debo Samuel had, you know, briefly reinvented football by playing running back or whatever. But Debo straight up had his production cut.

half when he got pneumonia. Like, Debo Seamus was playing, they were playing the Chiefs. And 30 minutes before kickoff, he's like, they were like, he is fluid in his lungs. And they sent Debo to the hospital. And Debo was in the hospital for three days. D.K., you had pneumonia. How long after you were diagnosed with pneumonia, could you walk up the steps and not be winded? How long did it take you?

It took me a solid month to feel like normal again. You know what I mean? How long did it take you to get back out there on the professional football field? Yeah, it took me a month and a half. to get back out on the field and really playing at my potential. No, pneumonia is fucking terrible. I just like, for people that I haven't had it, it is, I, that is the, like, sickness I've had, the worst sickness I've ever had.

It was the first time in my life where I was like, uh, starting to feel like I could die. You know what I mean? Like, this is like what it feels like when you're dying. It's a very terrible feeling. It's a very terrible disease. It's like you can't breathe. It feels like really, you're like someone's standing on your chest. And then you're coughing.

your fucking lungs out. And you're getting like fevers and all this shit. Pneumonia sucks. So Debo toughs it out, returns to play football four days after he gets out of the hospital and then Craig starts calling him fat. Yeah. Look, in my defense, he did look a little thick. And it's my job to report on that.

Probably the lack of cardio from the pneumonia. But my point is, I'm just buying the- Because he can't get out of bed. I'm just buying the dip on the pneumonia. Again, Bardwell had this great. that. Debo just ESPN has the wrong different way they measure. Yards after catch. Yack. And Debo ranked

first, first, and first and second the last four years. No, I think this is a great call, Hyfitz. I do agree with you. I think this is a perfect guy to kind of buy the dip on. Yeah. And to be yeah, and to be clear, I'm not saying Debo is going to crack that like incredible top 12 group. But on a week to week basis with Washington,

Jane Daniels, Cliff Kingsbury, I just think you're getting an incredible value. Like Debo, we have Debo 67th. And I think I'm dragging that up. I think he's probably going to be like, Dibo's going to be like the eighth player you take. That's incredible. There's a slight fear,

I feel like he's 29. And he is a guy who relies on physicality and he can really beat up his career. Like there is a chance that if it's not there, you will know immediately. But contract here. Ooh. I like this one.

I remember like Debo in his heyday. Obviously it didn't last very long, but Debo when he was in his prime. Unstop. Was one of the coolest players. I've ever seen. Yes. I don't think I've ever seen a receiver break tackles like him ever.

Yeah. I think he's number one. And schematically, the things they could do with him in terms of like, you're coming out on the field in whatever, a three receiver set. And then they're lining him up at running back. It like changes the math.

It changes the calculations for a defense. So he can really fuck with, you know, what the defense is expecting. They're going to be, I bet you they will run like a lot of essentially two running back sets with Debo, you know, motioning into the back field doing stuff like that.

We're better yet. Honestly, what really cooks is the fucking zero running back set. totally and then you get like a light defensive look you have and then you're just running option with debo and jade and daniels totally and it's like and jane daniels god damn this is give me so much fun to watch i really hope he's healthy also it's like really hope he's in shape it's just mccorren pretty much outside of him it's like noah brown he's zach erds it's like kj osborne there's not a lot and the running back group is honestly not that strong either like

bryden bramson definitely just like a downhill guy us neckler over the you know over his peak for cert for for for sure and so i the reason i brought up the running back stuff is like i could see them using him as a running back because you know part of the reason debo fell off from a fantasy point of view is because they traded for fucking cmc and he was just the running back you don't need to do debo same to running back stuff when you have christia macfrey um so i don't know i he i had him written down later to hyphus i really am interested i think you can get him at a huge discount to what he was before um yeah and the upside is just so tantalized I'll go to Washington camp this summer and I'll report whether Debo looks winded.

There we go. There's like a hill they have to walk up and I'll just like watch him walk up the hill. We'll see. Measure his weights like you're fitting him for a suit. Oh, that's good. You can go undercover. Yeah. That was a funny thing.

The Bengals beat was talking about that T. Higgins. Someone, some guy. Every time he walks up a hill. No, is Andrew Cooper. Someone? What'd you say? It was like if he walked up a hill, that means he's healthy. If he ran up the hill he was playing that week and if he walked, he was not going to be active.

And someone just figured that out. Bengals reported, I remember who took a video of him going up, but then a fantasy person figured out, which is like insane. That's amazing. And then he started taking a different route. Yeah, and then he stopped going up to hell. He's like, fuck you guys. Dude, that's like Chad Johnson.

Someone blew it. And I remember like cornerbacks sometimes will call each other to figure out to guard a receiver. It's like a little fraternity they have. And someone was like guarding Chad Johnson in his prime, like when he was actually named Chad Johnson. And they were like, what do I do? and someone told them like,

if he adjust his gloves, he's getting the ball. Oh, man. And it worked. And then they fucking told Chad Johnson at the end of the game. Wow. And they were like,

what the fuck? Why did you tell him that? And then they cut the corner back out of the little brink truss. It's like poker. Like people have tells. Yes. It was like the Oreos and rounders.

It's like, why would you tell them that? This is like, I love what this is aside, but I love, there's a bunch of videos on like TikTok and Instagram of, tells that pitchers have, depending on, like, what pitch they're going to, sure.

What pitch are going to throw? It's so cool. You guys don't play fantasy baseball, right? I used to. I play fantasy baseball and I love it. And it's funny to just purely be, like, obsessed with fantasy. But I'm not, you know, I don't, I barely understand how to watch the sport that much. Yeah.

I just spend enough time that my team's great, but I just kind of bug, bug people at the ring. No baseball. But it's so funny to think, like, a pitcher is just getting destroyed, you know, like, I'm, I'm terrified. Mackenzie Gore. It's going to, like, go against the Cubs today and just get absolutely rock. We're recording this June 4th, by the way. So if anything's happened between now and the episode, we're recording this June 4th.

But it's so funny that a pitcher can get destroyed for nine runs. And then they're like, yeah, you know what? Maybe they just are just tipping his pitches. Like, they might have to say, like, it's so funny thing. Maybe they just know everything that's coming. Like, it's crazy. I think that's, like, what's cool about baseball is something so small. I mean, I guess it's not that small, but, like, knowing what pitch is coming

can be the difference between being the fucking worst pitcher in the majors versus like just an average pitcher because the time that they have to decide whether they're going to swing on a pitch is like so minuscule. It's like just knowing that a fastball is coming. Even the French Open like the serves. I mean who is it? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Not sinner.

Well, there was a story. Andre Agassi wrote in his book about how I think it was. Jim Courier, the serves. Yeah, I can't remember. He was playing, I don't, that's not who he was playing. I can't remember who he was playing. I think it was Jim Curry. You were talking about when he knew based on his tongue?

Yeah, he knew something based on like. So Andre Agassiz could return. Also, great book, but Andre Agassi, who's the best returner in tennis history, who was, I guess, knew which side Jim Currier was going to hit the serve to. Because Jim Curier, it turns out, was putting his tongue in the corner of his mouth on the left or right side and it matched where he was going. And so his entire career, Agassi dominated Jim Carrier just because he could see his fucking tongue. Never said a fucking word. Told him when he retired.

Jim Carrier was pissed. And the guy, I don't, Jim Carrier, I guess I've read it with someone different. But anyway, it doesn't matter. Maybe I'm remembering wrong. It could be that. But the guy who he was playing and who Agassi dominated said after he was like, I started to believe you were like, you had like prevision or whatever. like you were like clairvoyant or something telepathic yeah yeah like he was like I couldn't understand what the fuck was going on I felt he like he could see the future or something I mean imagine

hitting a hundred and thirty mile an hour serve and hitting the line yeah and agassiz just like hitting a winner back like how annoying that would be it's so interesting that just like humans involuntarily have these tells where you're just putting your tongue on one side of your mouth without even knowing it so uh like five years ago I covered I don't know where we this was it's probably 2019 because it must have been before COVID, but the Rams and Cowboys had a playoff game. It was Boris Becker, High Fitz. Boris Becker, yes, good call.

And so the Rams Cowboys had a playoff game, and I was there, and it was in L.A. And this was the game where the Rams ran for 230 yards on Dallas, and they just, like, destroyed them on the ground. And the average, like, eight yards to carry. It was, like, the most in a playoff game in decades. And I went to the locker after, and I got one of the guards to admit

that they just knew the Cowboys had a tip of when they're stunting. And basically, defensive line are going to rush the guy in front of them, we're going to swap spots and try to confuse them. And they could just tell, it was Malik Collins, actually. It was his fault. And they could tell if he puts a different hand down, they knew exactly what the quote-unquote play was on the defensive line.

And so the Rams got it right like 22 of 24 times. And it's like, you think about all the stuff that goes into a football game and like just they're watching tape and the center and Whitworth just figured out like, oh, we're going to call out every stunt. And they just do it. Sometimes you get entire, sometimes you know, make a Super Bowl run. And they almost won the Super Bowl. season.

I can't believe that guy told Ocho Cinco. I know. It's like you're out, dude. You're out. Anyway, you're out of the club. Email us at Ringier Fantasy Football, Gmail.com. We're stories like that. Stuff like, you know, like the tells.

Yeah. I was reading, I was just reading a little bit more about this Agassi thing. Agassi had to like pretend. He basically had to like seed certain points because he didn't want. Sure. To figure out. To know that he knew. Also a poker thing.

It's also like a, you know, like it. this just reminds me in World War II, like when the Allies figured out the Enigma code system that the Nazis had, they had to like let ships get sunk, even though they knew where the German, like, U-boat fleets were and stuff like that. So they don't get suspicious.

Right, they didn't want the Germans to know that they knew their codes. So they're essentially like to sacrifice people. It's like, can you imagine making that decision? That'd be fucking terrible. I mean, yeah, that's crazy. Like that kind of stuff is so fascinating in sports.

Yeah, email is for your fantasy football, Gmail.com. Any examples of tells, like sports, poker, war, whatever. I'll take it. War. Okay. Any other sleepers anyone wants to hit? Or you want to go to post-type sleepers? Post-type?

Yeah, sure, whatever. I mean, I think we got to throw out the obvious one here. I think, I mean, Marvin Harrison, Jr. Yes. For the Cardinals. Yes. I mean, he's been seen his arms? He's ripped.

I got to tell you, I don't like that he's getting his arms larger. I just, I don't know. It's your receiver. Maybe his reach is like three inches shorter now. But I think that's the classic post type sleeper. Yeah. I agree. It has to be, right?

I mean, all signs point to it. If there's any guy going where he's going in drafts, that could just be the number one wide receiver in fantasy next year. It's probably him. Yes. Yeah. I think there was number one, he started slow. I think there was some, there were some issues with like how fast he was playing early on.

You always hear about rookies like in their second year. now I can play fast because I know it's happening. And I can see the game. It's like everything's slowing down for me so I can play faster. Like, do you remember early on in the season last year where everyone was like, Marvin Harrison Jr's top speed was 17 miles an hour in this game or whatever? And everyone was like, Jesus. I hate those stats.

I hate those stats. Well, because it's context related, obviously, depending on like what type of route you're running and things like that. But I do think he was playing slow early on. And he started to like feel more comfortable in the offense later. I think the other thing that's big with Harrison is he was totally not. not on the same page with Kyler in a lot of instances last year. So more experience, more work together, getting ingrained in the offense, getting on the same

page. Like, this is a bit of a leap, I guess, in faith that they'll have better chemistry. But I think just playing together more, it's going to help a ton. So I think that's another big thing. I think if you are in a league with a bunch of contrarians or like guys who are really tapped in, I think Marvin Harrison will be a pretty obvious bylaw candidate. but if you're in a league that's a little bit more like guys are just having a good time

I do think the narrative is kind of out there that Marvin Harrison Jr. is like kind of a bust or like that he's not as good as people thought and I think there is kind of like a negative connotation associated with his name right now so I do think you can kind of depending on the league you're in get him at a reasonable price 100%

I totally agree he's one of those rare he's a rare situation where he was an absolutely elite prospect and he's on a team with a good quarterback. I guess if you think color's good. I think he's good, but he's

specific. Also, I mean, funny that we're having this conversation because Marvin Harrison, Jr. had 885 yards, 3030 in the NFL

right behind George Pickens. And just one yard ahead of Johnny Smith. Yeah. So, yeah. Any other post-type sleepers? I want to toss out,

this is not exactly a post-type sleeper, but Nico Collins and more so just like the Texans offense at large, I think I would like to nominate. That's a good call. Nico's great. And when he was on the field last year,

he was basically the best wide receiver and fantasy. I don't think people think of him that way. I think if you could guarantee 17 games out of Nico Collins, like after Jamar Chase and Cidie Lamb, I honestly think Nico could be three and I wouldn't have a problem with that. I don't particularly care that they have Christian Kirk and they drafted the two Iowa State guys, Jaden Higgins and Jalen Noel at wide receiver.

I kind of don't care about any of that. I think the new offensive coordinator coming from the Rams getting slowick out of there. I do, and, and year three for, or your four for Stroud, like I just think the Texans are going to be very good this year and that Nico Collins is kind of operating in this kind of like silent but deadly category of wide receivers

where nobody really talks about him that way, and yet I do think he is in that category. I totally agree. We're too low on him. CJ Stroud has got to be one of the biggest wild cards or, you know, like X factors in the NFL this season. In terms of like guys that could go,

if he goes back to what he was as a rookie, I mean, think about the upside that the Texans have. And then obviously if he continues to struggle like he did last year, and maybe that's just who he is. I don't think that's who he is, but I am a little worried, just in the back of my mind, a little worried.

You know what I mean? So, well, I got to tell you, I'm not worried at all about C.J. Stroud in terms of, I actually think he's the most obvious in the Texans are the most obvious by low. But then literally today, I'm going to just read from USBN.

Texans, Coach Domeko Ryan said Tuesday, he has, quote, no concerns, end quote, about quarterback C.J. Stroud's limited throwing during spring practices due to, quote, general soreness in his shoulder. And then it goes on, the Texans opened OTI's May 28th. Stroud has not thrown passes during any of the media's watching periods, which is not all of them. The most Stroud is done with the starting offense as execute handoffs to running backs during 11-on-11 walkthroughs.

Ryan says he is not worried about the progression of his quarterback. there's no concerns with CJ, end quote, it's just general soreness, he says. We're taking extra precautions. I'll be good to go. I, you know what? I just don't like that.

I just don't like that. I don't like that is general soreness in a shoulder. I think it's fine. I'm sure it's fine. I'm sure it's fine. I'm sure it's fine. You guys are saying I'm sure it's fine too much. Now I'm worried.

I'm sure it's fine. I'm sure it's fine. It's like when DiMico Ryan, so remember that Proof-Fatheel talk headline that was like, DeMiko Ryan says there is absolutely, no breakdown of communication in the offensive line. It's like that really specific

phrase. Yeah. But like, what is he supposed to say? Like, if CJ Stroud's not throwing, what is what is Demiq O'Reyn's supposed to say that makes you feel better? Literally nothing. There's nothing he can say. I just felt like that he hasn't thrown a fucking pass. Maybe this is why Rogers went to the pyramids during Oth he is.

Or, or counter, maybe he's been working, maybe this is a sign that CJ Schrad has been working too hard in the off season. It's like Marvin Harris. His biceps. Yeah, his arms are so big. Everyone's like, he hasn't played a game since January. It's like, well, maybe he's been working out really hard for the last five months. But to your point, I think the most obvious bylaws in the NFL are the Jags and the Texans.

Because, frankly, the biggest thing that I'm ready to go to war about this year is Trevor Lawrence and all the people who are coming out. I mean, honestly, Bill is really hard on Trevor Lawrence. I think a lot of people. Speaking of Ced of Harrison, I think the general consensus is Lawrence is overrated. Lawrence is an overrated prospect. And I'm like, Lawrence was ruined by a horrible organization. and on the precipice of it, like, I am very confident Liam Cohen is going to turn around Trevor Lawrence.

I'm very confident Liam Cohen's going to turn on this offense. I am so happy to ready to bet on Trevor Lawrence, but also the Texans and Cesar Stroud. As someone who said, I mean, take purge in August was Bobby Sloak was going to get fired by that offense by the team for being off its coordinator. Oh, damn. Did you have that take purge? That was my take purge.

It was like, everyone's like, go ahead, coach. And I'm like, he's going to get fired. Good call. So having said that, last. year, I am not worried about C.T. Stroud at all. And I'm not worried about the Texans. Like, they're going to be fine. The offensive line still needs to get better. But also, they were just could, they were literally uncoordinated on offense. It couldn't have been worse. So when I, to Craig's point, we have Nico Collins ranked 12th. And honestly,

we should probably have him seventh. Yeah, I have a mate. I just think he's in that category. I got to move. Like, I, we have to move about. Like, Nico Collins, I mean, when he got pulled his hamstring after week five, he let the league in receiving yards. Nico Collins was, he's, I Another person like the Jo-Wan Jennings thing, he just was the third-round pick who didn't do much. So we don't want to tell ourselves that Nico Collins is like kind of like A.J. Brown. But he is kind of like A.J. Brown. Also, I just like a shout-out.

Just the Texans in general, not even offensively. I think their defense is sick. And I think they're going to be really good. And I think they're in a bad division on Fandall right now. They're plus 115 to win the division, which is kind of crazy to me. Like, do we have the Jags? Are the Jags the ones that are favorites now? No, no, the Texans are favored, but only at plus 115.

Like, you get plus odds on the Texans to win this division. I think that's really nice. I'll put it this way. If you look at Super Bowl odds, I think the Texans are the worst team that I think could win the Super Bowl. Like the Texans and the Broncos are 26 to 1 to win the Super Bowl.

Yeah, that's like as low as you'll go. And the Bucks are 20 to 1. Those are the worst teams that could win the Super Bowl. Like the Bears are 35 to 1. The Bears have no fucking shots to win the Super Bowl. But the Bucs, Broncos, Texans are the teams that are like, and the charge is honestly. Oh, actually, I'm not put this on my tattoo list.

I will not believe. even the Chargers until they fire Greg Roman. Or Greg Roman demonstrates he can have any sort of passing game that works in the playoffs. But that's the only thing missing for the Chargers. Every year there's always something with the Chargers. Every year, it's like, well, next year.

Greg Roman, he's like the Tom Tibbeto. Tibido. I still can't put it. My coach for five years, I can't pronounce his name still. But like, it's like Kirk Cousins, Tibido, Greg Roman. The floor's competency is so high. Yeah. But then the ceiling is a huge question mark. It's like you can get,

He established this competency and, like, physicality immediately. But then, like, where's this going to go? So, anyway, other sleepers, DK., who's your post-type sleeper? So this, I feel like he actually is a very good post-type sleeper. And I don't-ty-up your own picture. I'm not going to say this with my complete chest or whatever. Like, I'm not fully on board with this, but I do think he fits this category well. And I want to believe, Garrett Wilson of the Jets.

Ooh. feels like a his ceiling is a superstar receiver. I think he has the talent to be a superstar receiver. The beginning of his career has gone really wonky because of he's on the Jets, weird quarterback situations, et cetera, et cetera. But,

and then I think a lot of people, are downgrading him even more because of what he did his first three years. And now they have Justin Fields as a quarterback. Because he's still on the Jets and it's still a weird quarterback situation. I actually had completely. I'm going to throw like the least passes in the league next year. Yeah, but let me get to that. Let me get to that.

I just think it's kind of cool and interesting. And it at least piques my interest that Fields was his college quarterback. I kind of had forgotten that. They played together for two years at Ohio State. Obviously, Fields fed him in that offense. They had a ton of really good receivers in that in his time there. But they have that connection. They have that background.

And importantly, he is the only receiver on this team. He has essentially zero competition. The New York teams between neighbors and the Giants guys and the Garrett Wilson and the Jets guys is crazy. Josh Reynolds is the number two. Do you remember where Josh Reynolds was playing last year? He ended up on the Lions, I think. He was playing for Jacksonville. Oh, the Jags?

He hasn't been with the Lions. That was three teams ago, High Fitzts. Christ. Really? Well, he was on, so he went to the Jets to Aussies with Jacksonville last year. Before that, he was with Denver. Dude, I had no memory of him on the Jags. The Jags, I don't think he played much for them.

Regardless, he's ostensibly their number two. They also have Tyler Johnson, who they picked up from the Rams. Alan Lazard is on the team currently. I would guess he's not going to be on the team to start the season because he's going to go to wherever Aaron Rogers ends up. He might also just so you know, none of the players you're talking about are under contract next year either. The only players that Jets have under contract for next season are Garrett Wilson and Malachi

Corley, who is a gadget player. drafted by the previous regime who had four catches as a rookie. He's like in that Wondale category of like not a real receiver. Not a real player. I was very low on him. Maybe he will develop and come on, but he didn't do jack shit as a rookie. And it's because he's not a very good route runner.

And he's just essentially a gadget guy. He's done because the old GM was like, we should take Malacca Corley and then Malacca Corley had four catches and then that guy got fired. So like it's just Garrett Wilson. It's the only receiver they have. My point is, yes, they're going to be a run heavy team. I think that's going to be their identity. However, DJ Moore did really well relative to what we were expecting for the Bears in 2023 when Fields was a primary quarterback for most of the season and they were very run heavy.

It was like an option offense. It was a Navy offense that we were talking about. He still finished as the wide receiver 10 that year. And I think Garrett Wilson is a better all-round receiver than DJ Moore. At least he has a higher potential, I think. We need to do a like a power ranking of the receivers with shitty environments that we're willing to overlook. Yeah. Yeah.

Because that's always how it goes in fantasy. It's just like, man, there's don't, like, there's like, they got to throw to somebody. There's always like that guy. There's always that, man, he's like so talented, even though the situation's terrible. Like, that's going to win out. This is the Breaking Bad meme.

This is like future us is Walter White in the car just screaming like, dang! No! I don't. It's tough. It's the Tobias Fune K, like it could work for us. Yeah, it's like neighbors. Garrett Wilson, we're like, these teams suck.

The quarterback things are going to drive their fan bases crazy. But you don't like, targets he's going to get. But that does work sometimes. It does work sometimes, but also I think I'm trying to be more cognizant this year of, am I going to enjoy this journey? And I just think the Jets and Giants are the two obvious teams. Okay, that's not this category.

Don't go for Garrett Wilson if you want to enjoy your life. To your point, I almost wonder if Garrett Wilson is the arbitrage Malik neighbors of do you want a New York based receiver whose fan base is going to go insane watching their quarterback situation while he gets all the targets? At least Garrett Wilson is going to be like 20 picks after Malik neighbors. I think, yeah, and again, to be clear, it's very possible this is a frustrating guy to have on your team, but I just think the potential value here,

the post-type, like basically no one's talking about him right now. I feel like he's kind of been a forgotten guy, even though I think he has... Yeah, he's still very good, still very talented, in my opinion. And I respect he wants to win. Like when Garrett Wilson doesn't always get mad, he's not getting the ball. Garretelso gets mad when they lose games, which I love actually in a receiver.

I just remember, I just remember, wasn't he catching passes from Zach Wilson every time Zach Wilson would throw in the ball is just like the worst throwing the interception in the week one if he picked the ball off anyways I just maybe this is part of me wanting Garrett Wilson to succeed but I do look at the situation

reconnecting with his college quarterback there's some things here that just have me intrigued I'll put it that way what's great about Garrett Wilson D.K. Is that when you are like bidding for him in a draft no one's going to really That's a great point. It's not going to be like a big like competition to He'll be like, you can have them.

Unless you're an Ohio State fan. Jason, what you're saying, Craig, about the receivers whose quarterback situations suck willing to bet on. Garrett Wilson might be the single most talented player in a fantasy that nobody wants. Yeah. Like, like, the most talented person who actually will not get to that, like, suggestion at auction bid number. He will not be discussed right after you draft him. Usually there's, like some murmurs. There'll be nothing.

They'll be like, no, no one's going to say anything. Okay. Ricky Bobby first or last guy, someone who is, we have to rank somewhere. but there's no chance they're going to end up where we rank them. You just split the middle. You just cut it right in the middle. And so my guy, possibly we met us to rename the category of this person,

which is Travis Hunter, the receiver cornerback for the Jacksonville. Do you guys see his interception and practice yesterday? I actually didn't. Yeah, he dropped it. I hate all the practice. Was it actually an interception or was he playing receiver in that? He was playing corner and he intercepted the past,

but I think. But then somebody like screenshotsed it and zoomed in, like enhance, enhance, and the ball hit the ground. Coward. Wouldn't hold it up. We have Travis Hunter ranked 100th, the 44th receiver. Yeah. I feel like there's like, Travis, it's so funny.

There's no way he finishes as a wide receiver 44. No, Travis Hunter, he could average 18 fantasy points a game. He could average 18 snaps on offense per game. Like, I genuinely, I have no idea what this is going to be. I don't know where to take them. I don't have to do it this guy. You could literally take him nowhere, and I get it.

I want him, but you guys know I'm obsessed to Travis Hunter, but yeah, I think he might be the most rookie Bobby pick ever because he might not even play fucking offense

some weeks, but he also could just be the straight up best receiver on the team and for, yeah, Liam Cohen. This is tough. It's impossible.

It's actually just impossible. You have to guess if you had to guess right now, Hyfit's, like how much will he go for in a draft? Auction?

Yeah. How much would you pay? I think, I think would I pay? I wouldn't, first number that came to my mind Craig is like 20 no I like 12 bucks I think I think he's gonna be closer to 20

I think people are gonna be excited about it some people will be like he's a cornerback I don't want a cornerback and some people can be like he's so fucking sick I think I learned generational they've been listening to hyphen's too much after having show hey Otani in that keeper fantasy baseball like I told you guys about there's certain players where you're like especially in an auction to your point it's like if you really think the player's fucking cool paid three extra dollars.

Like stop being... Yeah, but show hey, you get points for his pitching and hitting. That's true. The defense helps. But just, yeah, I would go to like 12 bucks max, but even then I probably shouldn't do that.

What's your gut say? I think somebody will spend closer to 20. Yeah. Is my guess. I think someone's going to be like 18. I think we'll have a much better idea of how much offense and defense

is going to play by like August 30th. Yeah. D.K., who's your Ricky Bobby guy? Well, I had Devo written down here and purely because, I think the sky is the limit. Obviously, like we said, we're kind of bullish on him this year, but there's also the fact that he's getting older. He's injury prone and he might show up out of shape.

So I think he kind of is all over the board. The other guy I wanted to throw out here, and this is kind of related to what Craig was saying, and that's Christian Kirk, the receiver for the Texas. Ricky Bobby? Yeah, I think there's a, my point is, I don't think he's going to end up where we have him ranked. I think he's either going to be really, he's going to either outplay his ADP or he's going to be fucking invisible. Like, I don't think there's any middle ground. Because I think I could see a world in which he establishes himself as the number two receiver in this offense right away because he's a veteran. They traded for him.

You know, they got these two guys that of Iowa State and they have a good potential in 2026 or whatever. But right now, we just need a guy who knows what he's doing and he's going to go run routes and be where he's supposed to be. So he is the wide receiver 56 in our ranks. I could see a world where he ends up like a fringe wide receiver two, like a top 24 guy just because if this offense takes off. If he does what he's supposed to do, he's the number two receiver. in this offense. CJ Stroud plays better. Christian Kirk,

he's shown in the past, like he can put up volume. He's not like necessarily the best receiver in the world, but he can put up volume. And then alternatively, there's another world, which I think is very valid and real

where Jalen Noel just starts over him, like right away. And then Christian Kirk has dropped after week one. You know what I mean? Like he's just, to me, maybe I misinterpreted what this category is,

but like, maybe he's more of a post-type sleeper. Yeah, but I just think he's not going to end up where we have him ranked. is what I think. You think he's going to be either way higher

or like invisible in fantasy. Yeah, that's fair. I think maybe Ricky Bobby, I'm conflating it too because it's also just like someone you're taking and you're like, yeah,

if you just like want to win or come in last place or just, you know. Craig, who's your Ricky Bobby guy? I think it's D.K. Metcalfe. Because you can see, and right now we have him

as our wide receiver 24. I don't think that's happening. I think if, if the Steelers get Rogers and Rogers can get through 17 games, And the Steelers' offensive line is better than it's been in a decade. The running game is good. The defense is great.

They're generating a lot of turnovers. They're in the red zone a lot. It's just D.K. Metcalf. There's no one else really besides Pat Fryer. I think there is a world where D.K. Metcalf has like 13 touchdowns. 14 touchdowns. And Rogers and him have a Devonte Adams in the end zone just like just targeting him over and over. And then on the flip side, it's like Rogers plays four games.

Mason Rudolph sucks. The offensive line isn't that good. Arthur Smith is on the way out. They can't run the ball. And D.K.K. McK. F has like 800 yards and four touchdowns. I think those are like the two scenarios. Yep.

This is perfect. Yeah. I think you're dead on. I like the idea that D.K. McHef and Rogers could get like 14 touchdowns that they get the mind-milled together from all the practice they're getting. Yeah, yeah. Dude, I don't know if you saw it, but they've practiced together a couple times already. Nice.

Just not with the Steelers. Not with the Steelers. So where we're at, it's just we're just accepting the following. Aaron Rogers and the Steelers seem to have agreed that he will sign there. Aaron Rogers didn't want the shit that he wouldn't attend OTAs to go to the pyramids or whatever. So he's just like, I'll sign after that's over

because I don't want to hear about it. To go to the pyramids or whatever. And so... Oh, Craig, do you think... Do you think he went to the pyramids to find the fountain of youth? Oh. Did he get like a sneak look at this script?

Wait, we should bet the Steelers' odds, Super Bowl's book for four people figuring out he found it. We got an email about that movie. that I guess the writer of the movie is a literal Vanderbilt. And apparently, like, history of the Vanderbilt family is, like, woven into the script. Oh, interesting. Wow. That's wild.

That's funny. Like Anderson Cooper? Yeah. Yeah. Anderson Cooper wrote it. So do you think that, didn't you say in that movie, what was the movie called again? Fountain of Youth. It was just called Fountain of Youth.

Didn't you say that if the person who finds it drinks from it loves themselves more than anyone else that they just burn? Yeah, that's a problem. What's your point? I don't see the connection. What are you getting at? You think he got all the way there and saw the movie? It was like, oh. You know, because, Hyavid, it was Albert Breer on Bill who said that.

That basically, it's funny, because that argument, if you don't think about it, that makes that actually, I like, I get it. I'm like, yeah, if he joined the Steelers now and Breer was like, he has personal stuff he wants to attend to, there's things going on in his life, whatever. I'm like, okay, yeah, sure, because if you join the Steelers now and then it's just gone, everybody would be mad. But if he's not on the Steelers yet, you can't be mad that he's missing.

Can I, can I, can I give my rebuttal? Well, I said if you don't think about it. But yeah. Okay, okay. Well, I've thought about it. I've decided it's absolutely so fucking pathetic. And frankly, makes me think less of the Steelers

as an organization as well, that they would agree to it because they're afraid of the, they're literally afraid of the media backlash because they're like, we're going to sign a quarterback, who will not come in practice. And we don't want to hear about it.

And he doesn't want to hear about it. Like, that's the most snowflake thing I have ever heard. I'm not going to come to my job and I don't want to fucking hear that people are mad. I'm not at my job. But is that, I mean, it's not really the Steelers choice. I mean, they're getting cucked by Rogers every step of the way here. Well, that's why he doesn't respect.

It's a choice in absentia. The decisions, but they made the decision. They're letting themselves get cucked. Yeah. They're in the cuck chair. You're sitting in the chair, aren't you? You can get up. They just discover free will.

Fuck. By the way, Cuck chair's got to be up there with the funniest expression of imaginable. Cuck chair. That's us watching fucking Russell Wilson and neighbors and Gary Wilson in Fields and sitting in the chair. Shit, what was I going to say? Oh, I feel like the Aaron Rogers career personality reputation arc is so, it's like so parallel to Brett Favre. It's like I'm starting to worry about Jordan Love a little.

What's Jordan Love got in his future? It's like the Shining Hotel. It's like, oh, like all of his future. your Hall of favor, Gunslinger, one of the greatest of all time. Then by the end of the career, they're like, I'm fucking sick of this guy. Jesus Christ. I think the Steelers are going to be the worst team in the league in like 2028.

Yeah, you're probably right. I will say, it's incredible. This is another thing I was going to say when you guys are talking about Pickings. I'm like, it feels like you're putting a lot of faith in Tomlin when also everything that's going on with the Steelers has been like kind of shitty lately. So I told you guys that when I was at that Ravens Steelers game was in the Ravens locker room and like

the Ravens out of what they thought people couldn't hear them. They were like, making fun of the Steelers' game plan on defense. Yeah. Like, privately, they were just, like, mocking it. And then I was like, that's kind of bad. And then I went, I have to reject. That's kind of bad.

And they basically was saying it's outdated. They were just like, you're pretending. Basically, the criticism was, without getting into like odd and even fronts of defense, basically the Steelers were threatening to do something that they never do. It's like, imagine running play action if you don't run the ball. It's just like, you're not going to do that. So why would I honor the fake?

That's basically what they're making fun of them for. But then I found this other thing. It was a critic, Julian Edelman said that it doesn't, this podcast. And he basically said they, he knew he would destroy the Steelers because they would just put a linebacker over the slot and I would win that matchup every time.

And then every time they played, he would, and he, Edelman literally says, you'd think they would change it. And he's like, I had that for like years and years. And I just,

I do think that's the through line with Tomlin is he's so great at so many things. But there was such bad self-scouting, like the tells and stuff. Like the holes in the Death Star never get patched. ever. This is why Pete Carroll got ran out of town in Seattle.

Yes. Little shit like that where I was like, man, you really just can't make an adjustment. Yeah. All that's,

this Rogers, I don't know. I'm increasingly just like, man, maybe D.K. was right. Maybe Russell Wilson was a better option

for them to fucking Rogers. I'd rather... Wilson would be at fucking OTAs right now. He would be at... Russell Wilson would be at OTAs. I would rather have fields than either.

To be honest. The irony is I think the Steelers wanted fields. It was just too expensive. Tomlin who didn't. Tomlin wanted Russ. And Tomlin wanted us. Tomlin wanted Shador.

And they lowballed Fields too. I think that there was an element of, well, would you rather play for the Jets or the Steelers? And Fields was like, I'd rather have $40 billion. Yeah, I'd rather have $40,000. That's what I'd rather have. And also not have to be on the team that bench me. Hyphitz, that right there is the perfect example of what the Steelers are right now

is like they still think they are the Steelers from 2008. Yeah. They're Macedonia and they're like, remember Alexander the Great? And you're like, yeah, he's dead. That's a interesting comp. I like that one. Now the Tuxedars are fucked up award in honor of Step Brothers for when two guys next to each other, a dirty secret to fantasy football is when official rankings have teammates next to each other.

It's because we have no idea what's going to happen. Right. So I'm just curious what you guys' teammates are that you don't know how to rank. We talked to this earlier. Mine was just the chiefs like Rishi Rice and give your worthy Marquis Brown. I don't know how to rank these guys. I'm not going to, I don't know how I'm going to decide how to rank these guys. I'm going to have to give this a lot of thought over the summer.

but Craig, who's your team where you just don't know how to rank the past catchers? It's the Bears. I don't know. There's just everyone on the Bears. It's just all too new and there's too many. It's like Ben Johnson, does he hate DJ more?

Does everybody in the Bears hate DJ more? Is Roma Dunzee good or not? Was it all Caleb last year? That is why Roma Dunesie didn't have a good year. Luther Burton is like either going to be the best player in the league or the worst player in the league. Colston Loveland is a rookie tight end. Cole Komet's there.

I'm just like, I don't know what to do to any of these guys. I'll just take Caleb Williams. But I can't decide on any of, these receivers and which one's going to pop. Dude, even the running game with DeAndre Swift. And you're like, didn't you get ran out of town because you didn't know how to run and Ben Johnson's offense in Detroit that had a better running game? Like, even that's kind of a weird one.

I'm just like, I'll just take Caleb, I guess, and enjoy because I don't want to have to figure out or guess which one of these guys is going to take off. Yeah. Yeah, we'll have to figure that one out. It remains the Packers. What do we do with the Packers Receiving Corps? Jane Reed, ostensibly the top guy, but then plays the least of all of them.

Romeo Dubs and Matthew Golden, the first round rookie, I just don't know what, I don't know what to expect from this offense. They just have almost too much talent and depth at the receiver's spot to really know what the hell they're going to do. And also like their coach seems very adamant

that they're not going to like just feed the ball to one guy. I think he sees it as like a competitive advantage that they have four or five guys that they can feed. I feel like if Sean Payton was doing what Matt LaFleur doing. Like, I feel like they're doing the same thing. Yeah. But because it's Matt LaFleuror, we're okay with it.

And then we hate Sean Payton. The HR. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. I also love that, like, to some degree, it's kind of like, LaFleur is doing what Sean McVeigh was doing five years ago. The Robert Woods, Cooper Cup.

I was going to look to save. You don't know where it's going to go. Ho-hoo. And then Sean McVeigh kind of was like, you know what's sick? Having like a great player. Give him the brother to Cooper Cup two many times. Kevin O'Connell's like, just give it to Justin Jefferson. And then just that's, that's great.

Yeah. Okay. My favorite category. Guys you hate but have to rank, which is the opposite of Ricky Bobby picks. Just the flaccid soy boy beta cuck picks, the ones that if you take, you feel like you've insulted your ancestors.

DK. Chris Olave. Same. Yeah. Same. 100%. Yuck. Just don't want anything to do with the Saints' offense this year, really.

And Olave is, you know, obviously the added, and this is a very serious thing, but the added risk of having another concussion could, like, completely take about the right. of the year. How many games did he miss with the concussion last show? Like 10? Yeah.

It was like they shut him down because it was so serious. And obviously, I can't see the future. I don't know what's going to happen going forward, but it is a huge risk to have him and to draft him. And so, you know, that's not very funny, but like that is a true thing. I just would never draft. Well, and it almost like where I'm at with this is,

I mean, it's probably, you know, there's a level of like, you know, we participate in all this and whatever. But like the reality is fantasy football is supposed to be fun. And it's not fun watching. Like, you feel like a high school parent at a game. watching between your fingers and you're just hoping that they get through the like every play you just don't want them to get hurt and you're trying to survive. I'm like that's not very fun. It's not fun to watch. Like that's why I don't want to two on my teams. I'm like unfortunately like I don't have fun watching the Miami Dolphins anymore. I'm just kind of like in the back of my mind. I'm never like loose. The other guy I wanted to mention here is Michael Pittman who I think is a good player. But the offense is just way too unpredictable. The quarterback is just way too unpredictable. If if Daniel Jones becomes the starter, I think that's probably really good for Michael Pittman. But in the meantime, just don't know what to expect.

That's a great one. I really will feel like a failure if I have Michael Pittman on my teams. Like if I have, if past Danny has future Danny every single week having to decide whether to play Michael Pittman or not, I will have failed so hard. I think in short, I actually am higher on the potential of Anthony Richardson being a good quarterback than I feel like everyone else. But having said that, if I want to invest in the cults, I will just take Anthony Richardson. Like, I'm not going to bank on Anthony Richardson

propelling Michael Pittman any sort of relevance nor Daniel Jones doing it. So, no, I will have no Colts receivers at almost any price that's reasonable. I was scorned once by Pittman, and I shan't do it again. Well, it's just because you're banking on Richardson being good enough to make it happen or bad enough

that Daniel Jones plays and Jones is good enough. And it's like at that point, again, just take Anthony Richardson if you think it's going to be good because he's going to be way more impactful on your team. There's a thousand receivers. Why watch the Colts offensive? It's going to suck.

That's the thing. Why are you going to say, there's so many good quartersting the NFL that you could watch on Sundays. Why would you watch the Colts? There's so many other teams you could watch. Yeah. Like it's fantasy football. Who wants to watch Michael Pittman waving his hands? Sometimes a bad movie, though, is kind of fun to watch.

It's like a Steven Seagall film, you know? The Colts are authors of two of the funniest plays in the last 50 years. The Parlay? Yeah, the Parlay. And then the other thing where they like, yeah, they snapped it to the guy. Oh my God. So there's that. Plus, was the Carson Wentz left-handed interception from the end zone with the Colts?

Man, the Colts, I would argue the Colts are fun to watch. Colts. Dude, those are pretty bad. Man, the Wendt's left-handed pick six was unbelievable. That was an old-timer. Oh, man. That was truly like if Patrick Mahomes got all, like, Space Jam Monster, they stole his powers. That's what Patrick Mahomes, like, left-handed picks.

Okay. Any other players that you hate with all your guts and don't want to take? But you have to rank. Hate with all your guts for the reason that said it. Or some of your, I hate Cadarist Tony, all my guts. With all your heart or you hate his guts. Now, a lot of eight and Pittman are,

are probably the two best. And for reference, we have Pittman 80th and I wouldn't take him there. I just had it right. I like legally have to rank him. Just other players. It would be preposterous to not rank him. That would be like,

you know, irresponsible. But I'm not going to take it. I do think to your point earlier about Garrett Wilson is like the most talented player you could get super late. I do think Alave is really good. Yeah, that's a good point. Alave is crazy talented. Like, he's a great ball tracker, which there's not,

it's a hard thing to explain because almost like quarterbacks with their deep percentages is almost like a receiver stat. Alavi is unbelievable. I mean, this is what's separated to Sean Jackson. It's like how many fast receivers there. The difference is to Sean Jackson can look up into the night sky. Yeah, he got to play the field.

Yeah, 25 yards in a event. Yeah, it could have been a gold glove center field in another life. exactly, which is a skill. Alavi has that, if not the speed. But dude, I'm not, you can't pay me to watch the New Orleans Saints. I will not have, I will not be invested. I will not be starting.

You are in fact paid to watch the Saints, though. Fuck, that's a good point. You couldn't pay me. Well, you are getting paid to do it. You should, you should ask the less money if you don't have to watch. You'd be like, just take $5,000 away from my salary and I won't watch the Saints.

That's the name. Is that all it would take? It's writing it. in little amendments. Addendum. I will acknowledge 31 teams. You can't make me. I also, it's funny.

Some people are like, imagine if the Saints get the first pick and get Arch Manning. And I'm like, let me tell you something. I think it's more likely that Arch Manning would play five seasons in college

and come out in 2028 than come out next year if the Saints have the first pick. Yeah, that's probably right. Okay. Also, can't Arch not come out next year anyway? No, he could. I believe he could, but I think people are saying he might not.

Or people are basically saying like it's a leap to say that he will. Well, you've never seen anything yet. Yeah, first of all, we have to see him play. I think Archimanyang's going to be good, which, you know, isn't a hot take. But you got to remember, the Peyton Manning could have came out after three years and the Jets are the first pick. And Peyton Manning went back to school. And then Giants, they did everything with, you know, Eli. But like the Peyton thing, no one remembers.

But Peyton didn't want to go to the Jets. Yeah. Which was a great call. Okay. Is there any major receiver that we just didn't talk about here that you guys want to just like throw his name out? We talked about Justin Jefferson in depth a couple of shows ago. I think Pukinaku and Devante Adams being on the Rams is like unbelievable.

And we didn't hit that. That's amazing. I think Drake London's another interesting player this year. Yeah. And I'm not sure how high I'm going to be on him relative to everyone else. I feel like I'm going to be pretty excited about him though. He's the most highly ranked receiver that I feel like everyone is worried about, doesn't have strong opinions of. He's like basically hovering around top 10.

And it's kind of... The first receiver that you could take that could be healthy and you're still feel like is a risk. The first like 12 guys mostly feel like it's just, well, if they're healthy, they're going to be good. Yeah. Right. And then Drake London is like, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, what if Pennix is bad? What if Drake London's overrated?

But like Drake London, I mean, when Pennock's played, I wish I had this one funny. I believe Drake London was just straight up like a tap for fantasy receipts. He's salt and peppered him. Really? Yeah. I mean, he's also, I mean, Drake London has the neighbor's syndrome. How old is he? Drake London's like 23.

21 years old. 24 in July. I think Ladd McCock is. Drake London is 18 years old. That's nuts. Wait, can you do the Michael Kane thing? Do the Michael Kaye thing. She was only 16 years old.

You're going to blow the bloody doors on. He's 23. Jesus. We got to watch the trip, Craig. One, two, and three. Maybe there was even a fourth, I don't know. Any of the receivers who were talking about before we get, we do emails? I said Ladd-McConkie, I think, is also another interesting. Should we just name people?

Just name people that are interesting. Jack Lundit and Jakepa. Intriguing. Okay, we can be done. Okay. Jameson Williams. Intriguing. Jacoby Myers, sleeper. Ooh.

Brandon and I. You come totally out. flowers. That says Chris Godwin. Totally out. Poor Chris. It sucks. Back to work, John. Back to work, John. That kills me. I think about it. Once a week, I think about that. The worst. Back to work, John. It's also, like, kind of like, like, words to live by. Like, that's so inspiring. And it's like so, you know, it's just so impressive that he immediately kind of reverted to that. Like, all right. Yeah. Let's get to work. Yeah. Sucks. All right. Let's do emails. E-mails. Okay. This one's from Greg. G-bone. It's from Greg? Gurg.

Is it Gurg? Sorry, you're right. Gurg. Not the Greg. No, and it's not the Gurg. Just a Greg as far as I know. Just Doug Greg. So, Greg says he was listening to the last week's show.

Thank you. The tight end of an episode. And if you remember at the end of that, we kept saying we're tired of this Joker thing. Like, you know, everyone's saying, who's the. Joker going to be for Denver. We're just tired of it. So Greg says, listen to the show yesterday. My new Bluetooth earbuds did not fully turn off. And I left them on the kitchen

counter where my kids eat. He's two daughters, seven and nine years old. So I turned on your tight ends podcast during the section where you went off the rails talking about the Joker, chess pieces, athleticism. But I couldn't figure out why my phone was showing the podcast is playing, yet no audio is coming out of my phone. So I just kind of gave up. And then I go back downstairs

and my seven and nine-year-old daughters come rushing up to me and said, Daddy, your new headphones are alive and they keep saying the F word. Oh, no. So since then, my- They keep saying the F word. My seven-year-old daughter now runs around the house yelling, fucking Joker, fucking Joker. Oh, no. And then I try to explain how Bluetooth works. And then I realized I actually have no clue how Bluetooth works.

He's like fucking Bluetooth. Talked myself when a corner gave up. Now my girls have a new phrase to share with their friends at school. Oh, God. So we're going to have a whole other. elementary school of kids going fucking Joker. Just what Sean Payton wants. Yeah.

It's working. Sorry about that. That's really funny. Is that on us? But it's not on us. It's on, it's a little on us. I mean, we said it. I know. It's not not on us. Well, but also, you know, it's not our responsibility to keep

kids from hearing us. I have got that happen, though. I guess some parents have, I guess anyone would have paused the show by now, right? I mean, if you, if you've, if you know our show and you have ever listen to it and you're having your kids listen to it like that's on you well unless they want to show the kids they're cool like sometimes like you know the 30 kids like 12 13 they're listening right now like that means your dad's sick that's true show and tell my dad listens to the ringer fantasy

yeah exactly yeah um that's like in the santa claus when when the kid shows up to show and tell and he's like my dad is Santa Claus well it's funny said that that's what I was going to say and again pause people if you're with small children but The worst I've ever felt through the show is when we ruined Santa for like some family's kids. Yeah. Let's, let's not do it again, Hyfitz. That's why I just said two times in a row, like pause the show if you're with kids. Yeah.

And by ruin it, you mean that like he has a lot more helpers than people you think. Right. Yeah, no. Santa, you know, he can't do it all himself. Sometimes. He's like in all the presidents. His logistics are so much easier now because of Amazon. Amazon Web Services.

I don't do. And some of the elves, like, let's be real. Some of the elves deliver the gifts. Some of the elves deliver the gifts. We can't do that. We can't have anybody associating Santa with Amazon and the rock.

Daddy Bezos is Santa. Let me tell you something. Yeah. I mean, basically like the same ethos, right? St. Bezos.

Oh. Hey, oh. Should we all watch Red One for the summer and do a movie episode? Why are the polar bears on the island?

What's going on with that? I don't know. It's like lost. I don't know. I have no idea. No, I want to watch the happy. I want to do,

we should do a happy Gilmore live watch and then a happy Gilmore too. Oh. I'm not watching the trailers for the second one. I don't want to see the jokes. I think not watching trailers for movies you're definitely going to see is great. Like Jackie went into sinners, didn't know Michael B. Jordan was twins. She was shocked.

I will be honest. She was shocked. I just generally like when you don't know anything about a movie you to see. It's like the first shot of the movies. They're like, hey, twin brother. She didn't know that. It's cool. Like they're just passing a cigarette to each other.

It's great. Were you this shocked when you went and watched the movie twins? I never see that. I don't know what that is. Parent trap must have blew your mind when you found out. It was one girl. That is actually kind of wild, Craig.

Dude, I always confuse parent trap with family, full house. Because Full House is one daughter that was played by two people, but Parent Trap was two people played by one person, and I always confused that as a kid. Because I always thought that Lindsay Lohan

was twins and not the Olson. And you saw the Olson non-twins? I would never could keep that straight. Anyway. That's high level stuff. Speaking of high level stuff. So last episode, this guy recommended all this popcorn stuff for Craig. Dude, people came for this guy's popcorn credentials.

Oh my God. I love to the guy who emailed us. Thank you emailing us. But holy shit, people are calling this guy's throat. For the record, after the show ended, we started talking about the popcorn thing. And then we were like, wait a minute. Nothing that he said really made sense. No, not nothing.

Just the point where he was like, they don't use butter. Yes, they don't cook. You don't cook butter in, you don't cook popcorn and butter. You don't cook popcorn in butter. You cook it in oil. Yeah, he was saying milk fats are bad for like popping butter. And then Craig was like, why would you do that in butter? Yeah. And then we were like, wait a minute.

So then someone emails. Maybe that guy was wrong. So, oh, no, this is on blue sky where you can eat us. Or maybe he's a genius and no one's trying. He's so wrong. Yeah. Well, yeah. Anyway, so this guy says the guy who recommended popcorn in the last show, that email from

an industry expert on popcorn was bad. God, people are so much meaner on fucking the internet and the email. Is there a popcorn Reddit I should be on? I know. He says that Frankenstein orange oil is used by chains looking to cut costs. The good place is used pure coconut oil to the popcorn, then add salt and real melted butter. Three years of working

at a small town theater and people would come by just to buy the popcorn and leave. This is a popcorn hipster. Yeah. I don't know what this means, but he says my local rep Coolidge shouts to rewatch them. Oh, no way. It means. What does that mean? It's Coolidge Corner Theater. It's in Boston. We just did a show there

a month or two ago. Honestly, one of the coolest theaters I've been to. That was a good, the Goodwill hunting one. No, we did like a ringer film festival at Coolidge where we just screened a bunch of our favorite movies for an entire weekend. And then Bill, Sean and Chris would do like little conversations before and after them. It was great. I'm not going to lie, Bill kind of ruined Goodwill hunting for me with the nitpicks. Oh, yeah.

When he's like, his car's gone. What I didn't fucking realize? I'm like, he's pulled up a car. His car's gone. What are you confused about? I mean, Rosillo had a good one about them being at the Harvard bar and like Sean saying that Robin Williams is actually a shitty therapist. That was funny. Robert Williams is a terrible therapist.

Anyway, that was fun. Anyway, so he says there's a whole bunch of popcorn stuff. But anyway, Craig, we're getting a lot of feedback on the popcorn stuff. I agree. Who sent this email? Do you have a name for this guy? It was a blue sky post that. I agree, though.

You use the coconut oil, then you add salt and real melted butter after. They also said coconut oil. It's not a part of flavor. It's got a great smoke point and shell stability that makes a pure popcorn taste. I'm lost. I feel like I can taste coconut oil a little bit, which is why sometimes I opt for olive oil,

which I know has a lower smoke point, but I can kind of tow that line. I thought I knew what smoke point meant. We're talking about popcorn. What is smoke point going to involved? If the oil burns too quickly, the kernels will pop. Yes.

Oh, you're doing it on an actual stove top? Well, regardless, wherever you're popping the popcorn. As long as it's not a microwave. No, no. They're talking. These are like in the movie, theater, you're using like essentially a hot pan with oil to pop

the kernels. And if the oil burns too quickly, the kernels won't pop and it'll be shitty. Can you use like canola oil or is that like low quality? You can, but I think it's less healthy, it's lower quality, you know. I just saw a video of how you make avocado avocado oil and I'm like, I see why that's so expensive. That shit's hard. Yeah. Oh, really?

Is it different than olive oil? It's just so, it's such a thing. Like, oh my God. You're just watching like these like olive oil plants in Italy make olive oil. You're like, this is a lot of work. It's so much. It's so much. much work. God, I see why we buy stuff instead of have these farms. Is this why we have trade? Yeah, dude, trade is sick. That's why we used to have trade.

Yeah, we used to have trade. Yeah. We used to do barter. Better learn olive oil, Craig. Get ready to learn olive oil farm, buddy. Jack and I, we were in France. We were like, should we just buy a bunch of shit and come back? Yeah. We debated buying a third suitcase and just filling it with French wine and just kind of seeing what happened. What's the food you're most happy you don't have to make. Is it bread? No, bread's the only food I do make. Thanks for my sourdose stuff, but I love making it,

but the work that is required is quite a lot. You're not going to go grow some fucking grain. Well, yeah, when you get to that, when you get down to the early stage of that stuff. But even like fucking olive oil, I'm like, thank God. I don't have to make olive oil. Yeah, you just want to like heat up a pan. I mean, I was going to say like milk and butter.

Sure, glad I don't have to like go milk a cow. Would you rather have to just go milk a cow or make olive oil? Rather milk a cow. I think so. Then grow olives. Yeah, that seems hard. I just would probably use. There's something romantic about olive oil, though.

Oh, I thought you were going to say about milking a cow. I don't know. It just like reminds me of something. Yeah. Yeah. That's what the cup chairs for. Have either of you ever milked a cow? No.

When I was like in middle school, I think. Oh, really? I've never got a field trip can you recount your experience it was warm that shit comes out hot oh really yeah warm in the bucket

I don't say I milked a lot of cows mostly in Red Dead Red Dead Redemption too you know milked a lot of cow you got a fucked up thing of modern life What the fuck kind of game is this A fucked up thing of modern life Red Dev Red Dev Redemption 2 is the best game

too real it's like you're tired You're doing one day in tax The best Red Dead redemption Taxes are due No You have to take the recycling out No, but that's why Red Dead Redemption 2, among the thousand reasons is like one of the best games ever made is one, the pace of play is slow. Reloading is slow.

Getting on your fucking horse, building a tent slow. It's intentionally that. But the epilogue of the game. No, it's amazing. Yeah, that doesn't sound fun. It's the most fun I've ever had. And like the epilogue of the game is everyone doesn't play video games. It's like, this is pathetic.

And anyone who played Red Dead to Red Dead Redemption 2 is like nodding. Viguer. He's like, dude, good hang with Amy Poller. Sex is great. but have you ever tried Red Dead Red Dead? Dude, Jack Black just said he played, he put 400 hours to play Red Dead. Anyway, the epilogue of Red Dead redemption

is you kind of like retire to a farm and you actually escape and get like the good life and you're just like on a farm with your wife and child and like John Buck, like you're retired. And you just go around the house and do chores and you just like shovel shit and you milk cows and you like move eggs and you feed your pigs.

And that's fun? It is bizarre. Charlie, I think I will, I'm more, I have more fun doing. The most time is a very bad. And alarming. Email, people emailed it. People who played the game, like, like, it's so cathartic to just walk around. If you've done this being, you're such a horrible person and you're just like doing all

the stuff. And then you're like, hey, Abigail, like, I'm going to go milk the fucking cows. And like, it's great. It feels like a lot of work. You have to make a fucking list, like a honey-do list of things to do on your fucking video game. Is that like a one-off little funny. like side thing where for like one day you're doing that and then you go back or is that like

it's a side yeah it's not like that's like you know months and months of the game but like at the end of the game like that's a whole thing and sometimes you know it's that's the original thing grand theft daughter introduced is like you don't have to go do the next mission you can kind of just hang out in the world that's the world you're hanging out but the world is like killing hookers and like driving well yeah

you know it's different than like Red Dead Redemption is you know organizing your desk dude red dead is incredible I really just got to escape the real world I'm going to do this thing and go fucking do the dishes in my video game. On my list, which we never talked about, was Grand Theft Auto had the trailer for GTA6,

which I don't know if Craig will ever get back into video games, but I actually think, Craig, I might have all the listeners bully you to get a system to play Gtac6. I think Gt6 is going to be one of the biggest cultural events of my entire life. Yeah, I probably will. I just, I'd rather just, it's like a boat. I'd rather go to my friend's house to play. And I was going to say, let's play video games together when we hang out next.

in like LA or whatever. I am going to I'm, I don't play a ton of video games right now, but like I will play GtA 6 and it's Gt 6. Did you see the trailer,

DK? No. I can't expect. It's unbelievable. I'll watch it after this. I'm sorry. It's like how DK talks to Calvin. He's like,

I'll get you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll do that tomorrow. We'll do that later. Daddy's working then. Yeah. All right.

What the fuck were we talking about? Okay, I'll just do these two more eables. Jack emailed us about, we were joking about Severn's Jaybone. Jackie. We were talking about how we severed, like us in the off season is almost severed from us in the in the in season and they like different people.

Jack wrote that around week three or four, Kai should do his best Miss Casey impersonation and present the Audi offseason facts to the group of like what our Audi's thought. That's funny. And then so Kai and Ms. Casey brings up preseason takes and opinions we had before the year started. And the innies can then decide whether that is how they feel or whether that. And so like comes up in Craig, your iny, your Audi believes. Josh Palmer is an excellent fantasy asset. That's actually really funny.

That's a great week eight midway thing to do. Sever. We just record, like we're recording severed videos for ourselves. We play them. Carlos is like, Craig, you said that D.K.

Metcalfe has a super high ceiling in June. I'm like, ah. Hi, Fitz, remember when you said an elite neighbors was like not a great fantasy player? That's good.

Yeah, that is good. Okay. Speaking of good. I'll just do one more here. someone we're talking about why are we talking about Google Oh you think he brought up the video of guys Googling Google

He Googled Google from Google And then clicked on Google To get to Google And then it was like wait a minute This is where I started I don't want to be here And it's like his friend was watching him do it He just started like losing his shit When he saw him do it

I don't know what I don't know any of the context of the clip I just saw it was fucking great That's so funny That's actually incredible So we got this email from Spencer. Spencer. S bone. No, there's another one.

Nope. We're out on S. S bone's not good. Nope. What about what I said earlier? It was S bone, B bone. D bone, B bone. I think you said N bone.

That doesn't work out. No, I didn't say that. We're going to have to rank these. I said earlier, I said G bone for Greg. No, but I think you did N or M and it didn't work. M was yesterday. M. for the last week or whatever.

M. Bones connected to the L bone. I don't know. So anyway. Jay Bones the best. Yeah, J. Bones great. J. Bone. All right. What's the email?

Even Craig's getting sick of this. Spence Bone says when I was in 10th grade, I had a teacher who did not understand computers. He would, the teacher would Google, Google. and then Google YouTube which I think is so funny and then one time he got confused and tried to do a Google search in the YouTube search bar

and had no idea why he couldn't find what he was looking for and then a few times kids would unplug his computer before class because the teacher could only freak out and then call IT and half of class would be ruined. Oh, I love that. That's classic. Yeah, I just that resonated with you a lot because I feel like I was the Nicole Yokic of wasting time in high school for like micro movements to like waste class time. Dude, nothing better than like a like a fire alarm procedural day.

Yeah. I had this one move. There was this class at in high school that the room was next to the other room. Like they were just my class was weird one door over. No, my next class was one door over. Shut the fuck up. Oh, my class was, God damn it. Look at a total story.

Holy shit. Where'd you go to high school? That's crazy. Fuck you. Two rooms next to each other? No. That's crazy. Oh, god damn.

Fucking wild. You guys had some cool stories. Did you sit next to other kids in class? That's crazy. Okay, wait. What did you mean, though? No, fuck you. I'm not telling the story.

Your next class was immediately next door. No, not telling it. It's not. Oh, I see. Subsequent class was, okay, next door. I find script. This one's from Aiden. You're really not going to tell the story?

No. No. This one's from Aiden. Come on. A bone. Honestly, what DQ said was significant. fiddly funnier than anything I was going to say. A-bone says, hearing your discussion about willing to sell feet picks,

put them on the main Instagram. Yeah. I immediately thought of Danny DeVito because 10 to 15 years ago, Danny DeVito's Twitter feed was hilarious because he wouldn't post selfies. He would just take pictures of his bare feet at events with the hashtag trollfoot. Oh, DeVos. And I specifically have a memory of Danny DeVito tweeting a picture of his troll foot at a Dodgers game, I believe, along the third baseline.

And I believe this man is just offering up his little hot dogs for free to anyone who wanted them. Oh, man. He's so ahead of it. DeVito remains undefeated. I love that guy. Shut out. Him just showing up and always sunny and just being like, I'll do this for the next 15 years. Yeah.

I'll pay for this and also just crawl out of couches naked. All right. That's all. That's all. Anyway, you should watch the movie Twins. I've never seen that. I don't know what that movie is. It's him and Arnold.

Arnold Schwarzenegger. They're going to be. You're never going to believe this life. It's going to blow your fucking mind. They're twins. Okay. You know what? I don't think it's crazy that I didn't know that the Michael.

No, I don't think it's crazy. I actually have never seen a trailer for sinners either. I would go in completely blind. I want to watch it now. Just not knowing anything about the movie. Yeah, yeah. Excellent movie to watch knowing nothing about.

Yeah. See, you got a scene in the theater. D.K., you got a hurry. All right. Yeah, I feel like there's only another week. Okay. That's all. I think that's all we got.

Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Austin. Thank you. Everyone for email, soaringafancy, futball, gmail.com. What do we want? We want tells. Yeah. Of any kind. Oh, yeah. In sports or war?

Sports or war, you know, there's a third thing. Are there other things? For tells? Yeah. When someone's lying? Yeah, sure. Thank you, Lauren. Lauren.

Thank you, Benson Boone. Nice. How dare you? Sick. You're bringing him back up after what we just went through last episode? So we're doing this again? Wait, so Craig was so mad at Steph Curry was at the Benson Boone concert.

And then somebody emailed in. Singing along like a teenage girl. Someone emailed in, actually. Well, he has a teenage girl. Maybe it's related to him having a teenage girl. We got a great email from somebody, oh, I actually. Tyrus.

It's Tyris. Tebow. His name is Ty Cobb, by the way. His name's Ty Cobb. Yeah, he emailed in. He's like the great grandson of Ty Cobb. Yeah, I forgot that. But he was like, in all fairness to stuff,

like, he's a dad in his dad and his, late 30s with a bunch of teenage daughters and children who probably like Benson Boone and has a job and is probably not, you know, listening and watching and consuming everything at all times. So yeah, maybe his daughter's like Benson Boone and he likes Benson Boone. He's called being a good dad, Craig. Yeah, he's a girl dad. There you go. It doesn't mean it's not.

How did Benson Boone get big enough to be hated already? When you said he's the imagined dragons of this era, I feel like he's still new. is he not? He is new. It's because he did the flip at the Grammys. The flip. So he did the flip and you're like, I hate him now. Yeah, it's the tipping point.

The tipping point was the flipping point at the Grammys. Oh. Why do you hate the flip so much? Well, it was, it's, he has such, I think it's the, the earnestness and the tryhard nature of his performing style and compared with his like kind of acrobatic leotard. outfits paired with his kind of like yell, screamy, ballady music. So Craig just hates everything about him, in other words.

I was going to say, there's nothing you like about this person. I think that's fine. There are a lot of moms in the Midwest that like him. I can't be mad about that. Yeah, you don't behoove him his fame. Is that the right word? I don't think so. No.

You don't. Begrudge. Begrudge. Yeah. Booth. It sounded very wrong The first time I said that. You don't behoove him.

No. I don't know anything about Benson Boone. I don't really either. I think I hate him. He just does flips. He does his flips guy. To be honest, I'm not alone. This is not like me jump like on some island here.

The internet is a buzz about the cringiness of Benson Boone. I feel like the Gen Z's growing up when they really have room cringe artists. I feel like you guys are afraid to hop on board with me here. Like the Benson Boone. I kind of just, that song stuck in my head and I'm kind of like, yeah,

I just Googled why do people hate Benson Boone? But then I just don't know anything. I just barely have even heard that he exists. The only thing I know about him is he did that song at the Grammys and I know that song. And I'm like, yeah, you know, that song's stuck in my head.

Yeah. It's born in 2002. Yeah, he's like in his early 20s. Damn. All the kids, all the people left in the French Open. You know those songs, though, that only play in like an old Navy,

and they're just like on repeat and they just drive you nuts. Like that song, you know, another one? Do you remember You're Beautiful by James Blunt? Yeah, of course. That song made me want to cut my ears off. It's just over. I randomly, Craig, I randomly saw like a reel from James Blunt the other day that was like, hey, guys, guess what?

It's the 20-year reunion of your beautiful. Thank you guys. That song bought me this house. So thank you. Do you know, and he's like in like a nice house. On that note, Craig, do you know what I think is the most ubiquitous song from 20 years ago

that nobody has listened to in the last five years? It's not a playlist. It's not anywhere. It's not anywhere. Sure, yeah. I think every, that song was everywhere. It was.

And then it just has disappeared. What's, what's it sounds? I'm like, Yeah, that's a tough Yeah, that's a tough one. That's an earworm. Just to turn it around.

It's all right. Say you don't know. Also, how weird is your brain that I know all those lyrics still? And I'm like, I haven't heard that song in seven years. There's a lot of those songs. We should bring back the one second song challenge. You guys never went head to head. Oh, yeah, we should do that.

That got into like a test the argument. Yeah. We can do that. We can bring it back. But I feel like you guys should trust me to curate the right. I'm fine. I just, I went through a thousand emails to curate, like, all the list. Dika just started doing his own fucking vibes, and I got really upset.

I think I can create a good list. I went to great lengths to cheat. And then it turns out. I did all the work. I put in a fucking spreadsheet. You didn't read one goddamn email. Then you're like, you're cheating. And I'm like, I made the list.

You're, yeah, you're making the list of the quiz. Like, that doesn't make any fucking sense. You know, also I used a lot of the songs from the list. You know, it was a really big song. Hyve, it's another one. That kind of just like, doesn't get played anymore. but it was huge. It was beautiful girls by Sean Kingston.

Oh, well, that one, that's great. That still works, though. I know. You never hear it, though. Still hits. I had a party last week. We played it. Oh, you're bringing it back.

Yeah. All my friends are there from that class. I was next to the other class, but you guys didn't hear about that. Yeah. Oh. I don't know if I want to play Craig. Oh, come on.

High Fitz, Hayfitz plays the song challenge like he plays basketball. Dive in at people's fucking. Yeah, but I will be. make sure to choose the perfect songs that make it work for the both of them. I think, I think if Craig's curating, I won't get all upset. Yeah. Okay, we'll see.

Because Hyvitz also had some questions about what is that, like, the purpose of the, of the exercises that the songs need to be specifically identifiable in the first or second. Everyone should know the song. I don't want the 20th biggest Lady Gaga song on this goddamn list. Or if it is the 20th biggest Lady Gaga song, it has to be very specific. We're going to reiterate. Just going to reiterate, I don't want to play Hyfitz at this game. Now see, now we have to.

do it. I just, Hyphitz is like the worst loser, I can imagine. I do not want to play him. It would be even worse to lose to him. No, this is why we have to do it. There's no world in which I want to compete against Hyphitz in this game. It's the perfect June content. It is perfect June content.

It is too good. Hayfitz is already fucking pissing me off. All right, so tune in next week for the one second song challenge. I think you got to do it now. I think I'm going to quit. You're going to retire. I'm holding out. Yeah. Goodbye everyone.