The Ringer NFL Show - An Early Look at the 2026 NFL Draft QB Sweepstakes With Fran Duffy
Episode Date: August 28, 2025Sheil is joined by Fran Duffy from AllCity Network to talk about some of the biggest 2026 NFL draft prospects heading into college football season, with special attention on the exciting QB class. Pla...yers evaluated include: Arch ManningGarrett NussmeierLaNorris SellersCade KlubnikDrew AllarKeldric Faulk Sheil ends the pod with his analysis of Kyle Hamilton’s new contract extension with the Baltimore Ravens. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Host: Sheil KapadiaGuest: Fran DuffyProducer: Chris SuttonSocial: Kiera Givens and Brian WatersProduction Supervision: Conor Nevins and Arjuna Ramgopowell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the Ringer NFL show.
I'm your host, Shield Capadia, and I am excited to have my friend here today.
His name is Fran Duffy.
He is the lead draft analyst for the All-City Network.
I started to get juiced for the start of college football season, and I thought,
let's have Fran on, give us a little NFL spin on some of the big draft storylines.
We're going to specifically talk about the quarterback prospects today.
Arch Manning, is he even a prospect for 2026?
Garrett Nuss Meyer,
from LSU, Lenora Sellers from South Carolina.
We'll get an introduction to some of these guys who, this time next year,
maybe we'll be talking about them in the NFL.
So, Fran, what's your plan Saturday?
Are you just like 9 o'clock, parked on the couch, start a game day,
and then you're going straight through Pack 12 after dark,
or what's going on for you for the start of college football?
I already warned my wife.
I already warned Meg.
I said, we're going wall to wall.
She's got plans for the afternoon.
I said, I'm going to throw ribs on the smoker.
Francis will be busy.
My son will be busy.
We're going to sit next to each other.
And we're going football from noon until 1 a.m. on Saturday.
It's going to be a big day.
There you go.
13 hours.
And you know he's going to throw on some game day before then.
So it's going to be a lot of fun.
No doubt about it.
And the quarterbacks, huge, huge storylines with the quarterbacks this year.
So let's take a quick break.
We come back and we take a look at the 2026 NFL draft with Fran Duffy.
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All right, Fran.
Let's start with the biggest story in college football.
I think one of the biggest stories in sports, honestly, right now.
And that's Arch Manning, getting his shot to become the guy at Texas.
Now, I want your evaluation on him in a minute because I know you've watched all of his snaps that he's had so far.
But the big question is, is he going to declare for the draft after the 2026 season?
Todd McShay from the McShay show, you know, he knows the Manning family well.
and he said, I'm keeping Arch Manning out of my 2026 mocks
because I don't think he's coming out next year.
Archie Manning told Texas Monthly that, no, he's staying at Texas.
So there's some more layers to this thing,
but just you talk to a lot of people around the NFL.
I know you have sort of a sense of this.
How are you feeling about the potential for Archmanning
to have a great season this year and then enter the draft after the year?
Yeah, I mean, right now the way I'm handling it is that when I put out,
I put out my first big board last week and Arch Manning was on it.
I'm going to do, I have my first mock draft coming out in the coming days.
Arch Manning is not going to be on the mock draft.
Though I'm basically going to project, use it as like, I'm going to continue to go through
the paces of evaluating him for the 2026 draft.
But in terms of projecting forward, like, this is who I think is going to be in the first round
next year.
I don't think I'm going to put Arch in that, in those kind of exercises.
I do tend to think that he's probably going to stay put.
That said, look, you can, you, it's never, it doesn't do that many good to say,
oh yeah, like we're going to leave the door open because that's just going to allow the buzz to build.
They can always backtrack.
So I think if the Saints end up with the number one pick, if he wins the Heisman and wins the national championship, you know, if there's a coaching change, if it goes the other way, you know what I mean?
Like there are so many different outcomes here that could lead to Arch Manning entering the NFL.
And so I think at the end of the day, I'm expecting them to really kind of put cold water on this.
They don't want to be a distraction.
They don't want this to mount.
Not shocking that this is the direction they're taking.
It's interesting the different members of the Manning family, how they're sort of responding to this.
Archie Manning makes those comments, and then Arch Manning is asked about it, and he says, yeah, I don't know where he got that from.
He texted me and apologized about that.
I'm really just taking it day by day right now.
And then I was reading in The Athletic, according to multiple NFL scouts, the Texas coaches are treating Arch as if he will be one and done at the full-time starter.
In Austin. So there's certainly some uncertainty there. Like you said, there are so many variables where it could be, this is how we want it to go. We want him to stay in college. We want him to get those reps. We're seeing in the NFL right now. Those reps in college are very important. You want experience by the time you get to the NFL. But I think the big thing is landing spot, you know, looking at the Manning family. Like depending on who gets the number one overall pick or who is in position to draft him, like you mentioned, the Saints, a team like the Rams. They've got.
two first round picks going into the draft.
I mean, can you, if you're the Manning family and it's like, you can go play for Sean McVeigh,
be Matthew Stafford's successor.
That seems like you're probably not going to get a better situation the next year.
So do you agree?
Like, I think that is a big factor here, not only how he plays, how he performs this year,
but also what does the situation look like for him in the NFL?
Yeah, honestly, it happens all the time where guys come out and they say, you know what,
I'm going to stay put.
And then you find out later, oh, actually, I'm going to,
Claire. And that's why I think at the end of the day, just him coming out and just kind of putting
cold water on it. I'm talking about like Archie and the family in general, putting cold water
on it. I think it's perfectly fine to go about it this way. I do think that it definitely, you know,
just kind of lowers the buzz a little bit. Because from everything I understand, it's a tough
life for him in terms of like navigating through campus. And, you know, this is champagne problems,
of course. But he's living the big life down there in Austin. So anything to take the spotlight off a little
bit, I think he's going to try and take advantage of it.
Yeah, I was thinking of other athletes like this, you know, and I was thinking LeBron James
and Bryce Harper, guys who had this much hype before they kind of even, you know, performed
at a certain level.
And you're just watching them throughout every step going, can they live up to the hype?
Can they?
And, I mean, those guys did it.
You're right, this is a different area.
You're in college.
Everybody's got a phone.
Anything you do is being scrutinized.
So the argument of like, well, you know, it's fun in college.
It's like, his college experience is probably different than, uh, you're not.
Yours and minds, Fram.
But let's get to your evaluation, because this is interesting.
250 snaps around there he's played so far, fewer than 100 pass attempts.
It's a small sample, but I know you've watched all of them.
And when you've watched Arch Manning's film, what have been your biggest takeaways?
I mean, at the end of the day, he played 233 snaps last year in two starts.
And so it was a very, very small sample.
Now, that said, 230 snaps.
It was 230 snaps.
It took me a couple hours to watch through everything.
And one of those games was against Louisiana Monroe.
So you have to take everything into account.
But I think at the end of the day,
talking about a guy who's 6-4, over 220 pounds.
My guess, I don't think he's going to run through it,
run the 40.
My guess is he'd be a 4-5 athlete.
Like he is as tools he as it gets from a quarterback.
And I think at the end of the day,
he's going into an offense,
operated by Steve Sarkeesian,
who is one of the best in football right now,
in college football, especially,
in terms of setting the quarterback up for success, leveraging matchups,
getting guys into space,
finding ways to get their playmakers the ball in space.
And so when I'm watching all the missed opportunities that you saw with Quinn Ewers
in that offense a year ago, I say, all right, well, let's see what it looks like here with
Arch Manning.
You see a guy that's willing to be aggressive in some of those tight window throws,
and then you get all the gimmies that come with it.
I'm just excited, man.
People are saying, oh, you can't project this.
How could you possibly say that this?
This guy's the number one pick based off of this small sample.
We do this in the NFL every single year.
We do this with it.
We're projecting guys to the NFL draft every single year.
It's okay.
We can have fun and analyze this guy and say, yeah, he looks like the real deal,
Sheel.
Like when I'm watching him, I expect him based off this small sample,
he looks like a guy who could be one of the elites in the NFL.
Yeah, I'm with you.
It goes back to the Capati rule of it's only sports.
It's okay.
It's okay.
It's okay.
Take a deep breath.
Relax.
Okay, we could talk about Archmanning.
Yeah, for those who don't know Franz's work, I mean, he is very measured generally with this type of thing.
But I can tell from talking to him and he sent me some of his notes earlier that he's legitimately excited.
You're not like, hey, poor cold water, slow down the hype.
The guy hasn't done anything.
I mean, the name you had, I don't know if you want to share, the name you had is sort of the high-end version.
And again, there's a lot of, we understand.
There's a lot of time to go.
He's got to prove it.
But the high-end version of what Archmanning could be.
is who for you? Yeah, I mean, I think he could be what Josh Allen is in the NFL in terms of like the big,
strong, huge arm, athletic to make plays with his arm and with his legs, inside structure,
outside structure, and be that guy. Like, to me, like, when I'm watching him, I see a play,
I don't see, you know, Trevor Lawrence where it's like, oh, like, you know, the tools are all there,
but something's missing. It's very early. You know, obviously we know that all the context aside,
to me, like, he looks like one of those guys.
So I'm excited to see a play out this year.
Honestly, like, Texas is, I think they're going to be in the mix for the national
title.
And I think that Arch Manning is going to be in the mix for the Heisman trophy at the end of
the day.
Like, he's going to be, you know, at the podium there by the time we get to December.
I'm so excited to watch him every.
I mean, that's going to just be must watch every single week with Texas and with Archmanning.
All right.
Let's take a break.
We're going to come back and get to some of the other guys that, hey, if Archmanning doesn't
come out or only one team can get Archmanning, who are some of the other quarterbacks to keep an
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NFL show. Let's move on to some of your other top quarterback prospects that people might want to keep an eye on this weekend or this season. Right now you have LSU's Garrett Nussmeyer as your top non-archman in category. I guess we should like that guy. What do you like about Garrett Nessmeyer? What kind of quarterback is he? Yeah, to me, when I look at Nussmeier, I see a player that is very reminiscent of Tony Romo. He's got a little bit of gunslinger to him, which can work both ways.
But this is a guy that can operate within tight spaces.
He makes tight window throws.
He throws with good anticipation.
I thought the touch was outstanding at all three levels.
He's got a really tight release.
There are some things that you worry about here that was revealed this summer that he's got chronic knee tendinitis,
something that he has been dealing with over the last couple of years.
But nothing that apparently is a huge, huge red flag.
But that's something certainly scouts and teams will be checking in on throughout the course of the
pre-draft process.
He's already, I mean, he's only started one year.
He took over for Jaden.
Daniels after the 2023 season.
Started that bowl game after Daniels, he obviously opt out.
He's not taking part in the bowl game.
He goes and he wins the MVP of that bowl game, leads a fourth quarter comeback in that
game in his first start.
We know he's the son of an NFL offensive coordinator, Doug Nussmeyer down in New Orleans.
So he's gotten that coaching all throughout his life.
But to me, this is a guy that just has a real feel for playing the position.
He made some bad decisions in crunch time down the stretch last year.
I think he was kind of, he was pressing a little bit.
South Carolina game stood out,
you know, late, late interceptions,
throwing across the middle,
late in the down.
But I think if he tightened some of that up,
to me,
Garrett Nussmeyer looks like a starting quarterback all day.
Now,
I don't project him to the level of arch
in terms of,
yeah, he's going to be the Patch Mahomes,
Lamar Jackson tier.
But I do think, like,
top 20 quarterback,
very much within the range of outcomes
for this player.
So he's a guy,
if he does maybe what a reasonable expectation is for him
this year,
he could easily be a top five pick
in next year's draft,
it sounds like.
I think so.
He has a lot to overcome in terms of he lost a couple of his weapons and then
four-fifths of his offensive line.
So that's going to be something to watch.
But look, all eyes are going to be on Arch Manning and Ohio, going up against Ohio State this week.
This is another big one, though.
Garrett Nussmire is going up against one of the best defenses in college football against Clemson.
And so that's going to be another matchup that all eyes are going to be on Death Valley here on Saturday.
Yeah, we're going to get to Clemson's quarterback here in a minute.
But a couple other guys I wanted to get to first.
I'm excited to watch this guy.
Lenora Sellers from South Carolina.
He's the third guy in your quarterback rankings right now.
6.3, 240 was a freshman captain.
And to me, this sounds like upside traits.
I couldn't believe the note you had that 20 would be 20 years old on draft day
if he enters the draft next year.
So a very young player, but someone who it sounds like you're intrigued by.
First freshman captain in South Carolina history.
I talked with a number of his teammates this offseason.
the pre-draft process, and they all raved about this kid's work ethic and his character.
You know, he had offers to take a lot of money in the transfer portal, decide to stay put at
South Carolina. He's got a huge arm. He's a great athlete, and he has got rare strength in the
pocket to play through contact. You know, I've seen some comparisons to Steve McNair. I've seen
comparisons to Dante Colpepper. I talked with somebody that was down at the Manning Passing Academy,
watching him up close and said, Franie, reminds me at Donovan McNabb. You know, I think when you're
looking at his size, his strength, all the tools are there. It was a rough start. First half
of last year, Sheel. Like, the film was very up and down. Honestly, probably more down than up.
But I thought that he really turned the corner in the second half. South Carolina was marching to
the playoff. Honestly, he could have made an argument that they should have been in the college
football playoff last year. So I'm excited to see what Sellers can do in his sophomore season here
this year. It's only his second year as a starter. So he might benefit from going back, but the
tools might be too much for teams to pass up on. Okay. So that's interesting.
another guy who were not sure would he come out.
We're not, but you have to see how he performs this season,
what this season looks like for him.
But a true dual threat, even in the NFL, right?
He would want to go to a team where they're going to have a coach or coordinator
saying, hey, we're going to scheme stuff up in the run game that includes the quarterback.
Yeah, I mean, he'll hole escape and make, there was a big time throw he made against Texas
A&M late in that game.
I remember long runs where he's running around in the backfield,
is able to escape and take off.
So he can create outside his structure.
So I'm excited to say. I mean, he got NFL coaching the last two years, you know, guys that have been on that staff, offensive coordinators, play callers. I know Mike Shula is down there now as the offensive coordinator. So I think that that's going to benefit him in the long term as well. I'm just hoping to see some strides like in the little things in terms of like pocket management and anticipation his touch. He was a fastball thrower only, kind of a flame thrower in that way.
Didn't show great touch to all levels of the field last year. So if he can just hone in on a couple of those things, I'll be really, really excited about his future prospects.
All right. We've gotten your positives.
Now, one guy who just, you know, everybody has their favorites.
You do the, and this is why I love friend because he doesn't follow the group think.
I've known him for years and he will come with opinions that are different than what the consensus is out there.
And it feels like one guy who you are different than the consensus, a guy who I see going first overall in mock drafts is Clemson's Cade Clubnick.
What maybe has you a little thing?
I'm not as high on him.
I need to see a little bit more.
What is sort of your evaluation?
You mentioned that game, LSU Clemson this week,
and we get to see two of these guys.
So what should we expect from Cade Klubnick?
Yeah, I think when you're looking at Klubnik,
he's 6-2-2-10.
So very modest size for the position.
He is not the traitsiest player in terms of, like,
obviously, size, but then arm strength.
I think he's got a very modest arm,
a lot of air under his deep ball.
He's not going to wow with his ability
to kind of drive it in a tight window,
far-reaching towards the sideline.
He's not that type of arm talent.
But then you look at the accuracy in ball placement.
I just thought he made his receivers work a little bit more often than a guy with his skit.
Like the type of quarterback he's going to be, like I need him to be more consistent from a ball placement standpoint than what he was last year as a junior.
Now, he made some big plays in crunch time.
He single-handedly beat Pitt, you know, with a fourth quarter comeback on the final drive.
There are some things I really like about his profile.
His teammates have raped about him since he was a freshman.
in like there's a lot to like there.
I just to me don't see the huge ceiling to take him above some of these other guys,
you know, certainly sellers.
You talk about Drew Aller from Penn State and Nussmeyer, certainly Arch.
To have Klobnik at number one, I just don't see that level of talent.
I think that he's probably more of like, honestly, like a long-term backup type in terms of
what that ceiling is.
But I am excited to see what he can look like here this year in his final season on campus.
Yeah, things change.
That's why it's fun.
You do your evaluations now.
and they get a whole season under their belt,
and then you see where we're at December, January, February, March.
All right.
Last quarterback I wanted to get to seems like a bit of a polarizing guy
from my alma mater.
And that's Drew Aller from Penn State, 6-5-236.
Where do you land with Drew Aller?
Yeah, I mean, this guy's got all the tools.
You mentioned the size, the arm talent's there.
I think he's got a better arm than Cape Clubnik.
he's more athletic than Cade Clubnick, he's bigger than Cade Clubnick.
I just think that there's something I've always left wanting when I'm watching Drew Aller.
He's very much a caretaker of the football.
He very rarely puts it in harm's way.
A lot of people have given them a lot of grief for that final interception,
that game ceiling interception last year in the semifinal against Notre Dame,
where they lost in crunch time.
To be honest, I'm putting that squarely on the wide receiver on that route.
It was a bad route from the backside and the DB was able to jump it.
when I'm looking at Aller, I want to see him attempt more of those throws.
I want to see him be more aggressive and really try and push things a little bit further down
the field.
He is one of the things I wrote down.
He reminds me a Sam Bradford.
Bradford, number four, number one pick, Heisman trophy winner out of Oklahoma.
But everything was check down, check down, try and be efficient.
And that's what I think we see too often with Drew Aller.
It's a highly schemed offense there with Andy Coltonicki from Penn State.
I would love to be able to see him take advantage of some matchups, try and press tight windows
a little bit more consistently here in 2025.
It's his final season.
He's a fourth year senior now.
I'm excited to see with three new receivers because they completely refurbished that receiver
room.
What does he look like here this year?
If he can show up in those big time moments, because that was another issue, he didn't
crack 60% completion in any of those postseason games, including the conference title
game.
A lot of people are getting him on that as well.
If he can do that, I think that'll really help the way he's viewed publicly.
First of all, you're a sicko.
just, you know, oh, this one, this one interception.
Like, you know, I don't remember anything beyond what has happened today, what happened
this morning.
So I know I watched that game.
I'm sure I had a reaction to the interception in real.
But, yeah, some of the few people, you know, you got these brains where you just,
you're remembering specific plays from last year.
Like, no, it goes, especially with these daily pods.
I mean, it's got to go.
And as soon as it's out, it's out.
I'm on to the next one.
On to the next one here.
So, yeah, I don't have that gene.
You've been doing the daily pods for like a week and a half.
You can't use that as an excuse right now.
Eat more almonds.
Let's keep it moving.
That's right.
All right.
Last thing I wanted to ask you about a non-quarterback.
I know you've looked at a bunch of the first round prospects of the guys you've watched so far,
who is your favorite non-quarterback that you've studied so far.
I'm going to go with a guy that's a little bit off the board here.
I'm going to go with Auburn Defensive Lyman Keldrick Falk.
This is a guy that is viewed by Summits and Edge Rusher.
I actually have him with the.
interior defensive lineman, but it doesn't matter because this guy is a versatile playmaker
up front, 6-6, 288 pounds. So with that body type, I see more of a guy that's going to line up
and really kind of make his money on the inside, but he's a good athlete, very easy change of
direction, disruptor. He's really good against the run. He's got power to push the pocket from the
outside or from the inside. His hands can improve a little bit, but to me, like when I'm watching
this guy, he looks like a future like top five type of defensive tackle.
in the NFL, one of those premier interior disruptors.
He and Peter Woods from Clemson.
I've got basically the same grade on both guys.
So this defensive line class is pretty strong so far from what I've seen for next spring.
So he's like could be a top 10-ish, top-five-ish type guy or he's, okay.
Yeah, that's what we're talking about.
He's not there in every mock draft yet, Sheal.
But we'll see.
You think he's going to get there.
Okay.
I do.
I like that.
Last thing, before we let you go, just we've talked so many quarterbacks.
I know you've watched other guys.
You watch Sam Levitt of Arizona State and Fernando Mendoza of Indiana.
I know this is always a hard question to answer because it's a bunch of different guys.
But when you view the quarterback class as a whole, like if you were a NFL team right now who said,
we're probably going to be in the mix to draft a quarterback next spring, would you be excited?
Would you be, hey, I'll be excited if we have like one of the first two picks.
But after that, no, the depth.
How do you just kind of characterize it based on?
what you know now. I'd be excited. I think it's a good group overall. And look, there's a lot of time
left. We don't know about Arch. Lenora Sellers, Red Shirt sophomore. Sam Levitt, Red Shirt sophomore.
So are those guys going to be it or not? Fernando Mendoza from Indiana, he's got another year of
eligibility. Tailing Green from Arkansas, he can go either way. Really traitsy, but is he going to
fulfill that promise that he's got? There's some older prospects on the back end. They're more
like day three guys, but I think project pretty well as backup. So it's a little bit of everything,
you know, in this class. There's some buzz about Josh.
Hoover down there at TCU as well.
So I think when you're looking at this group, you've got to be a lot more excited.
This time last year, where last year is like, oh, like, I don't know.
And we'll see.
And even then, a year ago, no one thought Cam Ward was the number one pick, right?
So we know that there could be players that could ascend as well.
So if I'm a team that needs a quarterback and there are a handful of teams I think you
can point to, I think you're feeling pretty good as we sit here at the end of August.
It's so, it's going to be interesting for a number of reasons, and especially because
the Browns and the Rams, both.
have two first round picks.
You know, where, where do those end up?
The Browns made the trade with the Falcons.
And the Rams also made the trade there.
I'm sorry, I think the Rams made the trade with the Falcons.
The Browns made the trade with the Jaguar.
So they each have two first round picks.
Where do those end up?
Do they have mobility?
Can they move around?
You mentioned this.
I think the Saints are an interesting team to watch.
They look like one of the five worst teams.
To me, you never know how the season's going to go.
But now all of a sudden is there an opening in New Orleans for a quarterback
and they're drafting really high.
So it's going to be a lot of fun.
This is the earliest I've ever done draft talk.
And that's only because I like Fran Duffy so much.
And also, like you said, we are doing DailyPod.
So, you know, you got to mix it up a little bit here.
But check out all of Fran's work at the All-City Network.
He is awesome at this.
Like I said, it's going to be different than what you see elsewhere.
We've got the McShea show.
We've got Ringer Tailgate.
So so much good stuff out there for college football.
Check it all out.
I'm going to be back in a minute here.
with the hurry up.
All right, the hurry up is our closing segment where I give you a take on news in the NFL
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He is flat out one of the best defensive players in football.
And he's only 24 years old.
I mean, you look at the Ravens from last year.
Early on, their defense really struggled.
They're giving up explosive plays.
They move Kyle Hamilton to the back of their defense, playing more free safety,
getting everyone lined up, getting organized,
preventing those explosive plays.
It completely changed the direction.
of that defense. And I think there's going to be more of that this year as the Ravens defense
is going to be pretty good. So I always get so annoyed, you know, we just talk draft prospects.
I always get so annoyed during draft season when I hear, oh, versatility, positionless player.
It's like they're used to describe every single prospect. And to me, true versatility,
it's not just about, oh, he can line up in different spots. It means you can line up in those
spots and perform at a high level. And that is Kyle Hamilton. I mean, defensive coaches with
They must have a hard time figuring out where to play him because he's their best option at so many different things.
That is true versatility.
So no-brainer deal for the Ravens.
I think they're going to have a very good defense this year.
And I think Kyle Hamilton is one of the biggest jenga pieces in the NFL where if he were to miss some time,
that whole operation with the Ravens defense might crumble further than some might even anticipate.
So truly one of the most irreplaceable defensive players in the NFL.
All right. Appreciate everyone listening. Thank you to Fran Duffy. Thank you to Christopher Sutton for producing Kiera Givens on social and additional production supervision by Connor Nevins and Arjuna Ramgopal. I'll talk to you next time on the Ringer NFL show.
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