The Ringer NFL Show - Best Draft Classes Plus Grading the Quarterbacks

Episode Date: May 1, 2022

Kevin, Kaelen, and Steven discuss Day 3 of the 2022 NFL Draft and debate which teams made the best additions to their rosters. Hosts: Kevin Clark, Kaelen Jones, and Steven Ruiz Producer: Chris Sutton Production Assistance: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's the best day of the year for football fans. I was saying that sarcastically. No, it's not. Anyone who pretends it is, it's virtue signaling. There was a quote that went around. I guess it's, I've seen it before, but it was from Bill Polians. and it said that today, day three, that's the day that Super Bowl champions are made.

That sounds like marketing for day three of the draft and not anything it's ever been said inside an NFL facility. It comes from someone who had a first round grade on Tom Brady and let him fall to day three. So maybe... I don't want to throw a wet blanket. There were really good players taken today. Kalan Jones is also here.

Hello, Kailen. Hello. We'll see if the greatest player of all time was picked it in and you guys get to regret ever saying that you slept in day of who. the 2022 NFL draft. Yeah, we're not going to do our sleepers on day three, but it sounds like Stephen Ruiz's was asleep for today.

I can't believe you. Caitlin and I are the only guys in this pod who know a ball and are going to diagnose these day three guys and figure out who the gems are. That's fine. That's fine. I'm going to enjoy watching you guys talk about day three prospects, but I'm not going to do it.

I'm not going to do it. So we're going to do a pretty broad recap of the draft that included, by the way, just a lot of gems on day three. Don't listen to Stephen Ruiz. Listen to Bill Pollyan, guys. Listen to Bill Pollyan. Well, guys, there's some things you can't listen to Bill Pollyan on. We'll leave those aside.

But we're going to do our two favorite classes and then two favorite picks. I'm at least going to focus on after day one. That means I'm not going to talk again about the Eagles. I'm not again going to talk about the Ravens. I'm not again going to talk about the Packers. Even though the Packers, I thought, did a really nice job after day one. I just, I shower them with so much praise on how. night one that I can't do another Packers segment, but I really like Christian Watson,

Sean Ryan, Zach Tom. They drafted athletes who know what they're doing. They got a lot better. But I'm going to put those teams aside and praise some new teams. We'll go around the horn here. Kalan, who's your first favorite class? The first one I got here is the Texans. And, you know, like, I think it was a week ago we were talking about, you know, which,

you know, we're the most important players in the draft. and I mentioned Nick Casario, and I think he hit a home run with this class. And I know we're trying to focus on, you know, non-day-one people, but, I mean, it's hard not to look at Derek Stanley and Kenyon Green and be like, you know, they hit both on those two pieces. But I love the J-Len Petrie pick. Like, I'm a big fan of him. I think he's going to be a stud for them.

I like John Mechie, like eventually whenever he comes back from injury, I think he's going to be pretty productive in a receiving cord that's already pretty solid. They add a thumper, Christian Harris from Alabama, and then Damian Pierce. I think that was the big win that everyone immediately at the start of, you know, day three today was talking about. Like Damian Pierce could end up being RB1 for them. I know they have Rex Burkehead right now. But, you know, as far as the future, and we mentioned this, Kevin, like last time we chatted, like, because Sierra really did a good job of weighing the foundation for what they can be in the future.

So I was really impressed by Houston. Stephen Ruiz. Are the Texans back? I praise the Texans on the last pot. So, yeah, I agree. I know. I know. That's why I'm putting the ball in your court. There's going to be two consecutive pro Texans ringer NFL show. You know what? They trade it to Sean and good vibes only now from now on.

I think that's what it is. And, well, I mean, there's good vibes and a bunch of draft capital that comes along with that. That's why I. Good vibes and Jack Easterby. Yeah. Jack Easterby. It's working. Easton's job starts now. He builds the culture with them now. Right. But I thought last offseason was interesting for them where they just like signed a bunch of 70 overalls in Madden and just tried to figure out which ones would stick. and they overachieve last year

and now they're starting to really add talent now that they have draft capital from the Watson trade. And Casario, like, if he does what he did in New England, he's going to provide talent for this coaching staff. The question is, did they get the coaching hire right? And for two years in a row, it's been kind of a weird coaching hire. Maybe they'll move on from Lovie Smith in a couple years.

But I think the roster is starting to come together, like Kailen said. I agree. I am also suspicious of the coaching cycle and the change and whether or not this is even long term, they kind of botched this. I would actually have probably just rolled it over with David Cully if I were with them and maybe just looked next year if it didn't work. Like I just think the stops and starts are not what you want from a coaching perspective. And you almost are, if this is a complete disaster, you almost are stuck a little bit. I don't know. I don't want to get into that. What I do want to get into is that they

added talent and I like it and they're at least building for something. I think that none of us are going to say they're going to be good in 2022. I wouldn't even go as far to say they're going to be good in 2020. But I think we're going to be talking about them in 2023 as a team we're saying, okay, this makes sense if they get a quarterback, if they get, Kayling talked about Puff Hamilton. Like there are guys who, there are pieces there. I don't like the genre of, oh, my God, we're old and we're going to die soon.

But I do want to draw your attention to a quote that just came across my internet, which is from Kobe Bryant, the Cincinnati cornerback. Now is Seahawk. Quote, my dad used to talk to me about Richard. Sherman, Earl Thomas, and Cam Chancellor growing up. Good Lord. So the Legion of Boomers just in like my dad used to tell me stories mode already. Legion of Boomers.

I can't reconcile like that team being an old team just because of their uniforms. Like they have like these like modern uniforms. Yeah, we're washed. We're all washed. Good Lord. Let's stop recording. Let's go like take advantage of the time we have left. Going up with the Seahawks was Marshawn Lynch.

I mean, maybe Matt Hasselback era. That's growing up in the Seahawks. It really puts into perspective that. I just spent like the last three minutes of my life praising Jack Easterby. I'm really wasting my time. Patriot self, baby. Stephen, first class. I'm going to go with the Chiefs.

And I'm going to say it. Brett Veach is back. He's back, baby. He never left, brother. He never left. No, I feel like I put him on like fraud watch. Like it was like a shadow fraud watch when they were going bad last year because they, I didn't think they added enough talent to the defense.

But I really like every pick they made. I mean, I don't like the McDuffie pick because he is a little smaller, but they just lost Matthew. So if McDuffie can't hang outside, they can move him to the slot and they need a slot defender now. I thought they needed to get tougher on defense. I thought that was the reason why they lost to the Bengals both times last year, which really killed their season. Getting Carloptes is going to help in that regard. Brian Cook is a tackler, the safety out of Cincinnati. They couldn't tackle last year.

Chanel, the lineback from Wisconsin loves contact. I don't know. This is a home run draft for them. Like they filled all their needs. And then Skymore. I didn't even mention Skymore pick. I thought you were going to mention Skymore first. Yeah, I really should have.

I really like swapping out Tyreek for him. I think I made the point on the emergency pod after Tyreek got traded that. Counterintuitively having Tyreek out there, I thought made it harder for them to get those explosive plays last year. Because people were, our defenses were just selling out to stop it. I could make the argument that having more in Hardman plus defenses not playing a bunch of too high to prevent Tyreek from beating them. deep. I think that's more conducive for explosive plays than what they had last year with Tyreek when they basically turned him into a checkdown option. Yeah, I loved what the Chiefs were able to do in this draft. Leo Chanel, like, that's one of my favorite picks after the second round. I've been talking

about him for a couple weeks. I'm with you in this. He loves contact and I feel like, one thing I hate about like the YouTube highlights is it's all just him hitting the quarterback. But I kind of And that's just the way that kind of the highlight industrial complex works is just like, you know, he hit a quarterback. Here's a highlight of it. But he really can do it all. And he's an amazing athlete. And the athleticism is there. So I'm all in on the way that they, they remade themselves.

And they remade this, this defense in a way. Skymore, great pick. I just, I think that there's a reason Brett Beach is one of the best GMs in football. It's because he's so good at plugging holes. And we saw what that looked like. Kalen Jones, what you think? Yeah, no, I agree with you guys. I even like the McDuffie pick because I tend to like those Pack 12 North corners.

What is genre? The Pac 12 north corners. The North specifically. Do not give me any South Division Pack 12 corners. That's how I am with the Big Ten. I only like the I only like the legends. I don't like the leaders. If you give me a leader, I'm not turning the card in.

No, but for real, like Carl Lafitt is like you said, I think is a really significant addition for them up front. Because obviously, I think like Stephen, you pretty concisely put it. Like they were not tough enough. upfront to really deal with, you know, opposing offenses last season, especially it showed up against the Bengals last year. So I think adding Carlathus, I think him and Chanel, specifically in that front seven, along with Nick Bolton, like, there's a foundation there for what they can be down the line. And we talk about Chris Jones and what they have already with him and Frank Clark.

But Carlapis joining Chanel and Nick Bolton like that, that's going to be fun down the road. Even when that defense was going well, like when they were in the Super Bowl, they were always soft against the run and that was always a thing you could kind of prey on like the Patriots did in that first aFC championship game with Mahomes and I don't think you're going to be able to do that now they have tacklers I feel like tackling is such an underrated aspect of the game and they just couldn't do it last year and that's the reason they didn't go back to the Super Bowl I think this year they're going to be better tacklers it might take a year or two for this class to really set in and get up to speed but they're just churning

the roster now and this is this is what great teams do and this is how they stay great. Also, would not be surprised if Brett Veach is at the Formula One race next week. Just saying, just throwing that out there as far as big weeks. He deserves it. He deserves it. Big weeks for Brett Veach. Just putting that on the radar. He also likes NASCAR, let alone fancy NASCAR.

All right, so here's my first class. And they didn't have a first round pick, so this is good. How about the Indianapolis Colts? Who, and listen, I don't want to sound like a broken record over the course of this podcast. But my most sincere draft book. belief is the only way to draft well over a long period of time, a decade, is to bet big on athleticism as much as you possibly can and not make exceptions. Don't take bad athletes. Take guys who show explosion, who have good testing numbers. I know people want to say the 40-yard dash doesn't

matter. In some cases, it doesn't matter, but a lot of times it does matter. Vertical jump, broad jump, three cone. This stuff matters because good athletes win. And what's the, I think Chip Kelly used to say this. Big people beat up little people. That's sort of how football works. And I will always default towards teams doing that. Now, there's a downside to that. The way I view prospects is very boom and bust. There are guys who just can't play. There's a reason I was in on Alvin Kamara, Fred Warner, and Justin Simmons, three of my top guys, right? However, I was also in on O. B. Melon Flawu and the Stanford tight end who retired

to go run a crystal shop, okay? So sometimes that is no hyperbole. That's what he did. So sometimes these guys just can't play, but that's the boom and the bust of it. I think that the floor is lowered when you only draft off hypoticism, but it's still over the long haul a good

bet and the hit rate is higher. Okay. That's my preamble to all of this to the Indianapolis court. Why am I going on the tight end? Was it Andrew Luxe's title? Devon Kausti. There's a J in there. I don't know if it's Kajusti or Kikusti. He was on hard knocks talking about crystals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then boy, boy, was that foreshadowing. He got in the crystal game. Great numbers, though. Great numbers, though. We could talk about

that guy all day. But the Colts, by some measurements, I saw a couple people who study this closer, closer than I do. I want to say this. When I'm looking at athleticism, it's a lot of napkin math here. I don't do the, throw athletic scores. Are there, like some people do. I don't do the actual formulas that are out there. It's just a lot of kind of sliding scale and looking at it and just kind of coming up with guys I like. But the people who study it say that the Colts may have had one of the best athletic classes in the history of the draft, in the history of the draft.

So we'll start with, Alec Pierce was the first pick who I like, but Jelani Woods' tight end from Virginia didn't go to the combine. So he wasn't on my initial thing, but his pro-day. numbers were unbelievable. Bernard Raymond from central Michigan, great athlete. Nick Cross, the safety out of Maryland, one of Stephen Ruiz's one of Stephen Ruiz's turt brethren, an incredible athlete. And I think that Chris Ballard, with his understanding of how to measure athleticism, and he knows that, let's see, he worked for John Dorsey, who was really good at that. John Dorsey came from the Green Bay model, which is really good at that. Green Bay is, that's big on athleticism all the time.

Chris Ballard's ability to understand the athletic thresholds necessary and with his pure scouting eye, it's one of the best combinations that anybody has in football. And that's why he has the tendency to have special classes. And that's why I think this has a real chance without a first round pick to be a really special mid-round class. Having three third-round picks in this draft is really important. And they're maneuvering to do that as important. and then hitting on these guys, I love their third round so much, guys. Honestly, I think it's the most optimized draft process in the league consistently.

It's not, I would even add another factor onto that. Like, he has a scouting eye. He's drafting athletes, which is smart. And he's jacked. He's jacked. He's also jacked. Yeah. And he understands that we just need a bunch of picks.

Yeah, yeah. He's one of those GMs that's like, we need as many lottery tickets as possible. And when you do that consistently and every year just drafting these super athletes and you're getting a bunch of guys and you have that scouting eye, like you said, he knows ball, he knows ball. You put those three things together and you're going to get consistently deep, good classes. And that's what the cults have done. And that's how they've kind of built up this roster of, I'm going to use the analogy again.

Like it's a bunch of like 80 overall Madden players all over the depth chart. They need to find a quarterback. I mean, they have Ryan for one or two years. That's the one criticism of Ballard. I think it's fair that he hasn't really attacked the quarterback problem since Andrew Luck retired. but everything else he's done, I just think great process. Yeah, that's the thing. It's a really nails roster, like top the bottom.

You look at some of these guys like Raymond, like, I don't know if he's going to be, you know, another was a European bus because then they draft a runner from Florida State like a long time ago. I mean, even if he doesn't immediately pop, I mean, even Jolani Woods doesn't have to pop. Like you look at that first level of the roster, their starters, And we're saying this is already a championship caliber team just missing a quarterback. Now you're supplementing that. I think that that's going to come to fruition for them, like whether it's this year or down the road. Like this is a really good process like you guys are saying year in and year out.

Are there more concerts at the draft this year than they normally are? Yeah, it's weird. It's a concert heavy draft. Well, Wieser, I think Wieser was on earlier. And then Ice Cube was on right before we all hopped in the Zoom. My wish is that some absolute Tom Brady-level superstar was drafted while Weezer was on the stage, and that we just get like 10 years of like there's the pick scrolling at the bottom, and Weezer is playing some new song.

I guess it was a new song. I never heard it before. I mean, like, I guess they're all new songs after Pinkerton. If you're Weezer, you got to play the hits at the draft. They didn't bring you to play your new stuff. Okay. Let me push back on that. I actually think Weezer might be a little too big to play the draft,

and so they're allowed to play new stuff in that specific context. Yeah, fair. It's day three. It's day three. This isn't the first round. I think Weezer has more capital than you think on the third day of the draft. At least play like a mid-level hit. Play like Beverly Hills.

Is that the song that came out like kind of later in their prime? I'm my first two albums guy. All right. So, Kailin Jones, second class. We said we weren't going to touch on the Ravens. No, we can. We definitely can. You weren't even on Thursday night show.

We can, we can, absolutely. I mean, we have to say the Ravens. we have to say the Ravens. It's just so stupid. I mean, I'll try not to touch again, like top three picks, because they're all top 100 players. You know, Ojovo, Linderbaum, Hamilton.

Travis Jones, Falae, Charlie Kolar, even Jordan Stout, man. Like every single year, it feels like the Ravens are stealing. And either, you know, when you look at, you put up their draft classes over and over again, like even in the moment we're saying good hits, even if they don't end up popping,

there's always guys who have to, of contributing and whether it's for the Ravens or somebody else like Darren Waller, Kyle used to. So, I mean, looking at the top and even the interior, I think, like, Travis Jones is going to be a natural, you know, fit within their interior, super athletic for his size, Balaelaela. I think that you could plug him in within the opposite line and they get back to being really nasty in terms of running the football. So I'm just really impressed by what Baltimore does year and year out, like Eric Costa home run. I know that they got rid of Marquis Brown and people were debating that,

but he's done a really good job with this class. They had like 50 fourth round picks. Like they, it's exactly what Stephen was saying about the Colts. They understood, like, the comp pick stuff they do. Like, they understand how to create value in the draft. And then they just don't do dumb things during the draft. They do the smartest thing possible with the most picks.

They're another team like the Colts. Like, every year you know they're going to get two or three good players. 100%. So, listen, between now and Thursday, like, we've done so much praise. of the Ravens, but it's absolutely warranted. They are one of the smartest franchises ever, ever. And that's why they consistently beat, you know, they are better than you should be in a game that's supposed to legislate fairness.

Stephen Ruiz, second class. I'm going to go with the Falcons. I really like the Ritter pick. I'm so happy you're doing this because the Falcons and another team were on my list. Now, I did know how to break the tie. I'm glad you're addressing this right now. You have the four. Yeah, I really love the Drake London pick.

I think pairing London with pits is just a nightmare for defenses. There's two guys that are taradactals and can do everything you want them to do on a football field. I think they get pigeonholed because they are bigger basketball body types, but they don't move like it. And then Desmond Ritter, getting him on round three, I wasn't the biggest Ritter fan, but in round three, that's a great pick. He's a gamer man as a quarterback. He's aggressive within structure, which is really hard to find, especially these days. He has athleticism. He put up crazy testing numbers.

I think he was the most athletic quarterback who tested. Malik Willis didn't. I mean, I just think this is a great class. And then they got the pass rush from Penn State. Big Arnie. Ebikini. I think he has a chance to be one of the more productive edge rushes from this class. And they have needed a defensive end since, like, John Abraham left like 15 years ago.

Like, Croy Beerman. Do you guys remember Croy Berman? So great draft for the Falcons. I didn't like Terry Fondon's first offseason as a, a GM, second offseason has gone much better. So a couple of things. I agree. I love Arnold, Big Arnie, as I call him.

And the other guy I want to shout out, because here's the mid-round pick that put the Falcons on my radar. Montana State's Troy Anderson. When you're that big, he's 240 pounds. Listen, that's not huge for a linebacker. But if you look at the list of guys who are 240 pounds and above and running the 440, wars more times than not it's a productive NFL player and sometimes it's an absolute superstar and Anderson was on my list of my favorite athletes to take a flyer on him in in the second round

I think is absolutely has the capability to be special I really like what they did they got better this is going to be a long rebuild but they're playing it right Kalen yeah no I agree and I think Anderson being you know a core member of that is really fascinating because like you mentioned Dude is super athletic hasn't been playing linebacker that long too. He's been playing like, you know, he grew up playing quarterback tied in, running back, whatever it was. But yeah, I mean, like you guys nailed on the head. Like you're getting, I think like they're nailing, you know, taking the right swings with their first round picks. And then now we've seen them layer it.

Like I even if you, like Steven just mentioned high upside, like guys who I trust who study past rushers, they have been really high on his upside. Troy Anderson again, the athleticism is there. Ritter taking a flyer on him, and then the fact that he fits their system, like, you know, what Arthur Smith wants to be able to do. You know, you talk about the stature of him being comparable to Marcus Mariotta. You tie that into also being aggressive within the structure like Stephen was saying. And I think that you have a developmental quarterback that can at the very least be like an average starter,

you know, because he has a physical tools and the processing ability. So, I mean, I'm really in on their first couple of picks. I'm questioning like Tyler Algey. I mean, if he ends up being a really good back, I will, you know, take that in stride. But other than that, I mean, this is a really, really strong group. We're ignoring day three. No day three.

I'm only doing day three. They also did what I would do, which is they just took two Georgia guys in the sixth round. They're just like, yeah, whatever. This seems, these guys seem good. These guys popped on tape. Smart move. Also, they were offensive players, which is the move. That's the money ball move to take Georgia offensive players.

Yeah, right? You zig when they zag. Like Kaelin said, I didn't even mention that, the fit in Arthur Smith system. Like, Ritter's comps have been, I've heard Ryan Tannahill a bunch, and we all know what Ryan Tannahill did in that offense. But a guy that's going to throw it over the middle and stand in the pocket, that's what Arthur Smith needs to run that offense. And now he has two receivers that I think can win those balls over the middle.

Like we saw Corey Davis do. We saw AJ Brown do when the Titans were really at their height the last couple of years. I like this offense. It's at least fun to watch now. And I think heading out of last season, and you knew Matt Ryan's time there was kind of coming to an end, it would have been easy for them to botch this offseason and Falcons fans would have nothing to look forward to next season.

But I think now Falcons fans can get excited about watching a good young team. I agree. I want Ruiz to get mad at this. I earnestly, so Atlanta was on my list, but I was going to pick another team because of a pair of picks. that I think compliment each other perfectly and compliment what they're trying to build. I loved the Pittsburgh Steelers draft

because I think George Pickens, with the second round pick, 6-3-195, played like, and I mean this is a compliment, played a little bit like a jerk at Georgia, physical, understands what he needs to do at all times, just looked awesome for his entire college career. And then Calvin Austin, 5-8-170.

He's from Memphis, one of the best athletes in the draft, to add those two receivers and giving Kenny Pickett all the help he's going to need in his first year, I think, is a pretty significant plan and a step in the right direction. And it shows me that Pittsburgh knows exactly how to play the next couple of years with Kenny Pickett. No, I actually really liked their day two. I thought they had one of the better day twos. I still hate the Kenny Picket pick. I thought they were drafting for the next five years rather than the next 10 years. And the quotes from Mike Tomlin basically confirmed that that's why they draft him because he's ready to play right away.

I just think that's too short-sighted. And I think it's going to burn them in four years. I do think he's going to be a good player because they're going to put a good team around them. They're the Steelers. They have a good team every year. And they're going to be in the same position that all these teams with top, what, 15 to 20 quarterbacks get into when you get to their fifth year option. but for now I think it's going to work. It makes sense. That's what their timeline is asking for, a quarterback that can play now. Their defense is built to win now. Sure, but let me ask you a question,

Stephen. Is Kenny Pickett, do you think that Kenny Pickett is so bad that even if you surround him with the right pieces, he cannot be a productive quarterback? Are you putting him almost in like the Trubisky zone? I don't, I just need to know, I need to grasp this because I think we're fundamentally disagreeing on how we view the Steelers. and Kenny Pickett. I'm much, I don't think Kenny Pickett's going to be an all pro, but I think he's good enough to do something if the Steelers go about the team building process correctly, which I think is happening.

Are you so low on Pickett that you think that even though even these moves can't help? Let me say one thing first. Nobody knows anything about quarterbacks. Like me included, we're all guessing. But so he could very well turn out to be a good player. And I think my issue with putting a quarterback like Pickett into a situation like that, it's similar to the Baker Mayfield thing where I think his style, can waste a great supporting cast because Kenny Pickett is a little jittery in the pocket.

He loves to get outside of the pocket and kind of abandon the structure of a play or by time. Fake Neil. Bush League player. He's a Bush League player. No, but I do think that type of quarterback, I'd rather have like a point guard type, like a guy that's going to distribute. And I don't think that's Kenny Pickett's game. I think he's been given that label just because he's a fifth year senior and we just tend to fall on those stereotypes for older guys. But when you watch his tape, he's not like, I'm going to drop back.

hit the top of my drop and get rid of the ball guy. He holds onto the ball for an eternity. He likes to scramble. It's too Baker Mayfieldish for me. And we saw what Baker Mayfield did with that Brown supporting cast. Like when it was perfect and he went on a hot streak at the end of 2020, they got to the playoffs. But when he wasn't hot, he held that team back. Kenny Pickett also looks taller than he actually is. He's 6'3 and he kind of looks like a 6'5 gentleman. Kaelin Jones. What do you think? Yeah, no, I agree with everything you guys said. hit on the point that, especially when it comes to the receivers, like George Pickens and Calvin Austin. When it comes to Pickens, I think the only reason why he fell out of the first round is because

of character issues. And, you know, we've seen the Steelers time and time again maximize and seem to, you know, real in tough, you know, personalities and different personalities. They got the most out of Antonio Brown. They got the most out of, you know, Julia Smith and Chase Claypool, arguably, if you want to put him in that group. But, and even Martavis Bryant, Brian, when he was there. So they have beenpensity to develop these guys regardless of, you know, character, whatever. They will make sure that you are a good football player. So I'm really excited to see, like, what he can do there. Additionally, with Calvin Austin, like, if we can get Kenny Pickett to become point guard,

Kenny Pickett, instead of shooting guard, I'm going to put up, you know, Russell Westbrook numbers, Kenny Pickett, then, you know, this pick in particular, like with Calvin Austin can end up being significant in terms of having one of the most explosive receivers in the lead. He was someone I was really fond of and surprised that he was there in the fourth round. And even to Marvin Leal, like they nailed some of these guys, whether it's pedigree talent or, you know,

family, I guess, with Connor Hayward. I don't know how to explain it, but there are pillars that Kevin Colbert had and this is a very Steelers draft. Like if you didn't have Pittsburgh on the name of this, I would say, yeah, this is Steelers' draft. Yeah, I'm never going to criticize a Steelers receiver draft pick because they all turn out to be all pros.

I'm not going to criticize any of them. Yeah, great picks. Calvin Austin, I know he's 5'8. Sammy Coates, except for Sammy Coates. How sad is Sammy Coates that he was like the one guy? He was the one guy. Do you think he's in the group chat or they don't let them in? Well, I mean, I guess the question is whether or not like the group chat covers the last decade of receivers.

No, it does. Like once you get drafted, you get in. Did Heinz Ward start the group chat in like 2005? No, it was John Stalwood. We're going to do two of our favorite picks. it can be by teams that maybe we didn't think at a great draft, but just we want to get some shoutouts here because there's a couple of picks that I really,

really, really, really liked. Kaelin Jones, what's your first one? My first one is Baylor Safety JT. Woods for the Chargers. I absolutely love that pick. And Brandon Staley was talking about it, I think it was to Lesco. One of the ones, one of the higher-ups from the Chargers

was discussing this yesterday. One of those guys. They drafted him so that one. Yeah, one of those guys. And the point is of drafting him was to put an outfielder who has a lot of range. You can pair him up with Nas Adderley and let Derwin James play closer to the line of scrimmage and he can do whatever the hell they want him to do. So, and I think that's really been a focal point of the Chargers offseason this year.

Like I asked Staley about that. Like, you know, you get the first year to really identify where you need help. And I think, you know, this stretches back to free agency. Then I'm getting Cleal Mack, all that in Austin Johnson. front, but they've done a really good job at identifying where they were short and where they needed help. And I've really, you know, made sure that they doubled over by filling those holes and those gaps within their scheme this year to where their defense is probably going to end up being a top 10, top five unit, I think, this year, just on paper. And if Woods is as talented as,

you know, I think he is, and he can immediately step in and provide that, you know, that outfielder type you know, player alongside Adderly consistently, then we're going to be talking about, you know, the Chargers not only being, again, AFC contenders, but probably Super Bowl contenders. So I love Zion Johnson, the first round pick. Otito from UCLA, the fifth round pick I like as well, high ceiling. Stephen Ruiz, it seems like a yearly, a yearly tradition, Telesco kind of in his bag. I feel like Telesco is one of the more slept on GMs in the league. And he's totally agree.

There's a reason why we all fall for the Chargers every year. It's because they have good rosters every year. And I've seen people like criticize Telesco and I don't get it. Their problem in the past has been coaching. It remains to be seen whether that's going to continue to be a problem going forward. I think Brandon Staley is a good coach. I know Kevin Clark thinks he's the worst coach in the league. I don't think he's the worst coach in the league.

By the way, Kayla, when you ask him a question in a press conference and he starts answering, does like an optimistic piano melody start playing in the background? And it just like swells up as he gets more and more emotional. It's definitely fascinating because I mean like he cares, you know, like he's, you know, all these guys are professionals. So they zone in and all of a sudden they give you like these beautiful. But in terms of care and precision in terms of answers, because, you know, I'm not good at that. Brandon Staley is amazing at answering questions.

He's a podcaster. He's a podcaster. He was a literal blogger for Ex-S-N-O's Lab like four years ago. Like while we've been all writing about football, he has also been writing with football. When he was at John Carroll or wherever it was, he actually, actually was writing blogs about like how to set up defenses and stuff. That's not a joke. And actually, I find that cool. That's not a dig. There's two things that are amazing about it. Number one is he likes sharing information and kind of in the same way we like all talking ball.

And the second part of it is that that rise is kind of incredible. Like the idea that you'd be writing pieces when you were to small college just a few years ago, all of a sudden you get the NFL radar, all of a sudden you get on Sean McVeigh's radar and all of a sudden you're a head coach. Like that's the rise that everybody aspires to. So I don't, We take digs at some people just because they're the kind of the sacred cows of the Stephen Ruiz Ben Solax of the world. But like that's not a shade on Brandon Staley as a person and a story. RG3 for charity ran a 44840 just now. Holy shit.

Sign them up. Sign them up. Carolina. Get on it. All right. I love that. That's a great first shout out. Stephen Ruiz.

Give us your pick. I'm going to go with the team that we've already praised. I'm going to go with Nicopi Dean, though. The Eagles. Oh, Kobe Dean. I don't know how would he default to the fourth round. But linebacker for the Eagles has been a problem for like five years now. And their linebackers have lacked two things.

They haven't had speed and then just like general awareness of what's going on around them. And that's Nukobi Dean. He's fast as hell. He's one of the smartest linebackers to come into the league in a couple of years. He was basically running practices at Georgia during the spring. He was calling plays out during the college football playoffs against Michigan. I don't know, man. I think this is, the Eagles just keep nailing these picks. And then I think both the Eagles and the Packers did the smart thing. And you already alluded to this earlier with another team. They drafted two Georgia defensive players. That's just the smartest thing to do. Draft the best players from the best team in football, the best defense in football last year. You passed the, they know ball. They passed the test. This reminds me a little bit of someone from the Dolphins years ago when I was like probably in college and covering the team. They were talking about how bad the Dolphins Jaff were. There was some crazy stat.

in the late 2000s where they didn't have any of the first round picks on our roster in like 2008 for like the previous like seven years. I forget what the actual number was, but it was just absolutely, you know, you're Jamar Fletcher's were out of the league, right? And I remember somebody saying like if they had just not overthought it and then as soon as the Bush Davis run started, just draft Miami Hurricanes players. Like if you just look at it, they would have just, they would have just bawled out for for a decade.

Like just don't do anything other than that for if there's a, a pre-year-old. Pro available from University of Miami, just take them. Like, that is almost how I feel about Georgia right now. And I sometimes feel that way about Alabama in some years. And we're probably going to see that next year with that class, which was one of the best classes of all time, the Will Anderson class, that kind of thing. But with these Georgia guys, just take them and ask questions later, Kaelan. Yeah, no, it's that way.

I mean, it's similar to that, you know, like you said, that Miami defense from early 2000s, not too different from that. Do you remember when, like, Ozzie Newsom taking Alabama players was like a bit that we all laughed at? But, like, yeah, he was drafting the best players from the best team, and the Ravens killed the draft every year. Like, maybe every team should have been taking Alabama players with every pick. Well, I would also say something's happening in recruiting that is pretty unique to this era, which is that, so Texas A&M just had the best recruiting class of all time. And if you look at it, that's actually not that special because four of the five best recruiting classes of all time have come in the last four years.

And it's just Texas A&M, Georgia and Alabama, just passing the baton. like Alabama will like probably get it this year somehow. And with NIL, that's only going to increase. But like, I think that there is actually a strategy here. Which is like, you know what? Actually, the best athletes in the world are going to the same six schools over and over again. And NFL teams need to realize that the fifth best player on a defense is actually maybe like the eighth best player in the country. You know?

And that that's just unique to modern recruiting. Yeah, absolutely. It's because it's like you get five stars who. you know, duplicates at the same position, and those guys end up being five stars who never see the field. And all of a sudden,

they're in the draft, and they're worth taking a flyer on because they have the athleticism without the tread. You know, it's definitely worth at least taking a late round flyer, you know, like when these guys are taking them. I got a long-ass list,

and I'm going to try to weave in a bunch of guys here. But I'm going to start with the New Orleans Saints, and I'm going to talk about Alante Taylor, a cornerback, from Tennessee. So, as we know, I watch a lot of, I'm a power watcher of random college football games during the midweek. And I was watching, I think it was Kentucky, Tennessee.

And I saw a pick six where a guy just absolutely just sniffed it out immediately, was quick as hell getting to the ball, quick as hell getting to the end zone. And I wrote the guy's name down. And a couple weeks later, a guy declares for the draft, Alante Taylor. Was the guy? Spoiler alert. The guy I'm talking about was the guy. I wasn't telling an unrelated story. It was Alante Taylor. And he's been on my radar for a long time. And as we discussed, I tend to wait until we see how they run, see how they test. Alante Taylor is fast as hell. He's instinctive. He has, but I saw a scouting report saying he has body control. That's exactly the way I would describe it. I just really liked him. I watched some of his press conferences. He was confident. He seemed to process the game well. So I think that this is, we know that the Saints are pretty damn good at scouting defensive backs. I think this is more of the same to get them in the middle of the second round. This seems to me like in mid-year, we're going to be talking about Alante Taylor and how a lot of teams passed on him.

Anything on the Saints guys in this draft? I didn't like the pending pick. I think we covered that on Thursday. But yeah, I thought it was a good draft. I liked Alave. I like Taylor. I was watching a little highlight package. I saw the Kentucky Interception.

So now I've watched film. I've granted the film. And I agree. Taylor's good. But I do think like the the one skill that always translate or seems to translate is the ability to like jump those those routes and pick them and take them to the house. Like Asante Samuel Samuel, I feel like was undervalued as a player. And then he did that in the NFL. Marcus Peters, I think. Santay Samuel, senior.

We're old, remember? I can't wait to tell my kids about Asante Samuel Jr. I mean, their kids are going to hear about Assante Samuel the third. So I do want to say that 90% of my tape scouting comes on watching SEC Network replays in like a Tuesday. I don't want it because I'm always either working. Or you're Nick to Syria. Yeah, I'm either working on Saturday, like traveling somewhere for NFL or there's some Miami game that I've just stupidly traveled to.

And so I never watch, I'm never able to watch like a Kentucky Tennessee live. And then like I'll catch on the SD network on my Tuesday. That's where I find out of my Alante-Taylor was midweek replays. That's like your favorite content. You're always talking about like ESPN classic and watching old games. You're like, why is an ESPN2 showing old games? I don't actively really watch television. television, I tend to write and work. You should try it sometime. And so I got my laptop here set up.

And then I got a big TV here. And I'm just going to, I'm going to throw on sports. What am else I going to put on? Ozark with no sound. What else am I going to do? Put on baseball. But yeah, okay. Let's get serious. Baseball. You don't have to watch sports. We don't have to watch sports. We don't watch baseball. Uh, so yeah, Alante Taylor. I agree with you, the Trevor's Penning pick, high ceiling guy. I don't, I think they can coach him up. Um, I'm actually just, I don't know a ton about them. and I know that there's a kind of an anti-penning sentiment at the ringer. So I'm just going to default to you guys. But I did like his other places and I just don't know a ton about him.

Kayla, next pick. My next pick, I got the Buffalo Bill's taking receiver, Khalil Shakir out of Boise State. I know that they already have Jameson Crowder, who they added this offseason to kind of replace Cole Beasley in the slot. But I just like the idea of Brandon Bean just being like, you know, screw it. We're going to add as much weapons as possible and help Josh Allen because I don't know, man.

Like I think that he was, you know, a day two value that they ended up finding on day three. And when you look at some of the weapons that they already added or wanted weapons, really, it's James Cook. So I was really excited about when they added him getting some juice in the running back room who can provide in the receiving game. you look at the ability for them to be able to put in Shakir, Diggs, Gabriel Davis, and James and Crowder, and I mean, that's nasty. That's super nasty. So I like the pick and it gives them time to develop too. Stephen?

Bill's? I love, like, not being a GM so I could have like these roster building theories that I never have to test and I never get owned for. But I think teams like the bills that are very successful and they're very good at certain things like passing the football, try to fill in gaps rather than trying to maintain that strength. So I agree. I think a lot of people talked about improving the running game and kind of trying to figure out how to add another element to the office.

I say screw that. No running game. Like just soup up the passing game to the point where nobody can stop you and just keep strengthening it because eventually like Stefan Dix is going to age. Cole Beasley is doing God knows what. Yeah. But yeah. I think that's the smart move.

Keep this receiving court stronger. Like, keep strengthening it. And I think that's how you maintain your success. If you try to start chasing other threads, I think there's a chance that your passing game falls off a little bit, and all of a sudden you don't really have an elite tool anywhere on the roster. McKenzie and OJ. Howard, today out. It's obviously a big soon, man.

Crazy. What's your next pick, Steve? I'm going to do a Ravens pick. I'm going to go with David Ojiba. The reason why I really like this pick for the Ravens, Obviously, he tore his Achilles at his pro day. He's probably not going to play this year. But he's a first round talent that falls to the second round.

And what I really like about this is that the Ravens just hired the Michigan defensive coordinator. They sure did. So the one worry about taking these players that can't play that first year is them not getting the reps. I don't think it matters as much for him because he's playing in the same system. I mean, it's obviously going to change because it's the NFL and not the Big Ten. But like verbiage and picking up the playbook, he has a headstone. start. So I don't think him sitting out is going to hurt him as much as it would for another team where he has to learn a totally new system. I'm in complete agreement with that. I think that's

a fit. Raven's culture. There's there's a fit there. I love the connection not only to the hardball family, but obviously what you say with Mike McDonald as well. Kalen, anything on that? Yeah, no, I agree with that. I hadn't even considered, you know, the thing is when he comes back from injury, considering how new he is in the game, being in a system that he's familiar with will probably accelerate his development. So yeah, pretty big. I don't think any team gets a position like the Ravens get edge rusher. They're the best at it. They're just a factory. They just turn them out, ship them off in free agency, get a comp pick, and then draft the

next guy with that comp pick. It's amazing to watch. Like on everything, I have like 10 guys here, and I got to whittle it down to one. I do want to shout out Zemir White, the running back from Georgia, who I love. He was in that platoon. He went to Las Vegas. Sam Williams went to Dallas in round two. People said that was a reach. I don't think that there's such thing as reaching on special athletes. I would also say, I mean, listen, Bill Belichick said that Cole Strange wasn't a reach. And I think they probably could have traded back into round two.

But if they were that confident, people were talking about Logan Mankins yesterday and the history of Belichick. Belichick's had some successful reaches and some unsuccessful reaches. He's not infallible at all. And I think that pointing to the past with Belichick, it's a choose your own adventure novel because he's had a lot of hits and a lot of misses. That's just sort of what happens when you're generally smart over 25 years is that, yes, you do have successes you can point to, but sometimes you failed. So I'm not going to say that we should just totally trust Belichick in these spots. But what I do think is if someone's a special athlete, I think that there's a justification there to get him a little bit earlier. Was Cole Stranger reach?

Sure, by that definition. Was Sam Williams a reach? Sure by that definition. But I understand why to take him. I'm actually going to go with a guy. I feels like only Mel Kiper and I were excited about this guy because the NFL certainly didn't seem excited, and it's Amari Barnao.

He went to Carolina in the sixth round. One of the best 40-yard dashes, 4.36, in the history of the combine and its position for defense events, he's listed as an outside linebacker. He's not really that strong, but he's got spin moves. You get Brian Burns kind of teaching him some stuff. Hopefully there's something there

where he's able to create value. I just want guys like Amari Barna, 246 pounds, 6'5, he's big enough. He can add bulk in the weight room. I really do think that Carolina maybe had a better draft than people like Stephen Ruiz think. No, I think they had a good draft. Even the corral pick. I didn't, I made jokes on Twitter, but I didn't hate the corral pick. I think that was a smart bet.

I like the first pick, obviously. I said that on Thursday. No, I thought they had a good draft. I really think they've had a decent offseason, to be honest. I know I make a lot of jokes, and there's like a lot of, It's easy to make jokes about this team because there's a lot of dysfunction, and I don't think the coaching staff is very good. But I do think Fitterer has done a decent job building up the roster.

They're totally lost that quarterback, and I don't think that's going to be solved anytime soon. But yeah, the draft, I give it my thumbs up and give it a seal of approval. Let's quickly go through the quarterbacks that dropped and just kind of grade on whatever scale you want to do what we thought of it. So obviously, Kenny Pickett goes in round one. Desmond Murder of Cincinnati, we already talked about. Any thoughts on Desmond Ritter, Kaelin, that Stephen didn't get to? The only thing I'd add is that, you know, these dudes get stronger. You know, he can get stronger and add arm strength.

I don't know if that I'll, you know, translate to him being the strongest throw in the NFL. But he can get stronger. I think that's one of the big critiques of him. I think, again, good developmental pick. Malik Willis to Tennessee, Stephen. As a football fan, I think it's going to be fun to watch because I do think Vrable is the type of coach that's going to try stuff. They're not going to let Malik Willis. I know he's not ready to play quarterback yet in the NFL this year,

but they're not going to let them waste the way on the bench. He's going to see the field. And I think that team, after losing A.J. Brown, after losing Julio Jones, they lost Johnny Smith a year ago. They lost Corey Davis, was it two years ago, a year ago? They've lost a lot of receiving talent. And that team needs to be, if they're going to be good this year, because I think it's a little too late to add receiving talent,

they're going to be, they need to be dominant on the ground. And I think Malik Willis will play a factor in that this year. So in that way, I thought it was probably the best landing spot for me, just because I want to see Malik Willis play this year, just because I feel like I've really invested in him now. I'm concerned about them being able to build up that roster in time for when he is ready to play. Like, let's say he plays in two years. And the receiving cord looks like how it does now. I'm really concerned about that because he has a tendency to go into hero mode. And if he's throwing to Anthony Furksner, he's going to go into hero mode.

And I think that's going to stall his development a little bit. Interesting. Kaelin, first of all, before I get to the big picture question, what did you think of Malik to Tennessee? I love it, especially for where they, you know, were able to get him. Like Stephen mentioned, I think the real point is like the way that they use Tannahill is situational as a runner, right? They're not making any design runs for him. But now with Malik Willis, like Stephen mentioned,

you need to be able to double down on your strength with his direction of the football. With him in the lineup, now you're worried about both the quarterback and the running back being effective runners and explosive. I think that's what has really been missing a dimension that can be unlocked in the Tennessee offense. And then, you know, Steve, I know you don't like the weapons, but I'm a big Kyle Phillips fan, Kyle Phillips believer.

And then Chikonkwo is kind of like a Johnny Smith region. So they're trying to get back to being a good running, a really dynamic running football team. And I think with Willis and Toe, allowing him to develop with Tannahill getting out the way, you know, down the road, I think that that could be a really good development in Tennessee. And Burks, I do think, adds another element to that run game that makes it even more dynamic. Like you get Birx, Willis, and I think you can even keep, you could probably keep Ryan Tannen Hill on the field and do a little Wildcat situation. That's a tough offense to match up with. And I think that they need, they need to be weird on offense to compete this year. And they have the pieces to get weird.

Hey, guys, before we keep going on the quarterbacks, do you guys think that the slide and the idea that we went from pick 20 to the third round and guys like Sam Howell went in the fifth round? Is that a reflection of next year's class and some of these teams believing that they're going to be pretty bad? And that next year is the crop, either teams are comfortable going two and 15 and trying to get in the Bryce Young, CJ Strouds sweepstakes, Anthony Richardson's in that. that mix, Taller Van Dykes and that mix, a bunch of guys are in that mix? Are they trying to roll it over a year or are these guys just generally bad?

I think it's a combination of the two. I still don't understand how Malik felt as far as he did. Like we've been saying, like draft great athletes, and that's the one thing you could say about him. Like, he's a great athlete, a generational runner. One of the best runners we've ever seen. And he has, his arm is as strong as anyone in this class. It's the strongest arm in the class.

I think it's up there with probably Trevor Lawrence. his arm last year. I don't think it was stronger than Trey Lances. I don't know. I just think it's a fundamental misunderstanding of where the quarterback position is going that he fell that far. So they must have really hated his tape if he fell that far. So I think it in their minds, it's that yes, they were that bad. Matt Corral to Carolina. Kaelan. I still don't know how I feel about it. I like his tools. He's got a big arm, quick release, kind of accurate. But I mean, he was in a system in Ole Miss where they weren't asking him to be anything more than an RPO merchant, to be completely honest. Sure.

I think the upside is there. I don't know how I feel like Ben McAdoo, West Coast, like foundation, so we'll see how that kind of emerges. I'm not too confident, though. My one issue with his game is he's not very aggressive within structure. And I think if you're going to be that type of quarterback, like the more fluid type of quarterback, the playmaker, I think you have to be aggressive. And I think he's, you watch his tape.

there's a little bit of two in there. There's like one crazy throw every game, but there's a little bit of two in there. And that's the reason why I'm a little concerned with him. But where they got him, I think it's worth a bet. I mean, you got Sam Darnold. You might as well take a flyer. Hey, Bailey, Zappy, Western Kentucky quarterback

goes to the Patriots in the fourth round, Kaelan. You love this guy. I was going to say, I told you the other day. He's Case Keenum. And you love him? I don't love him. I mean, if you can get Case Keenom in the fourth round, you would people would be happy with that good backup that'll be a backup for his entire career and

damn that's not the worst in money in the world new chase taste daniel 2.0 make 20 million bucks be everybody's buddy new chase daniel dropped but what a confidence boost for mac in practice on the arm strength front yeah they're gonna be making mac look like Justin herbert out there hey patriots draft kind of weird really weird they got really weird I kind of like it I i I kind of like it I I kind of get it. When you watch that offense last year, it got really condensed and put it in this tight box where they could only attack inside the numbers. And I think they got speed with the Baylor receiver.

They get the Cole Strange, very athletic, can get outside the tackles and make blocks downfield. And they didn't have that. They were too slow on the offensive line. I think that's why they traded away Shaq Mason for pennies on the dollars. You watched that tape. Shaq Mason couldn't hang in that offense. and they really needed to move on

and I thought it was a smart swap for them. I know Patriots fans are kind of scratching their heads at why they got rid of a guard and then for nothing who was pretty good and then drafted this guy that nobody's ever heard of. But it makes sense on paper. Sam Howell first pick in the fifth round. This to me was a little bit of a surprise.

Part of this, to me, it was surprising was Kuiper said this and other people said this during the week, which makes me think it comes from people inside the UNC program. They lacked a little bit of competitive of fire and latched a little bit of juice maybe, which I actually thought the opposite. I thought he was kind of high-rebed and played like a little bit of an energetic competitive jerk in a good way. I don't think he's all that good, but I was surprised that that line was

trotted out this week. He had a little bit of Baker Mayfield in him when he was bouncing off people and talking shit. I don't get that at all. I think you need to have some competitiveness to run the way that he ran last year. Like he was trying to run over guys. And I think it might be have been the same report, but I saw someone say, like, you couldn't feel him when you watched the film. You couldn't see, you couldn't feel him on the field. What is that mean? I don't know. I don't like the player, but I will defend that part of his game. What happens to him in the NFL? Like who, so he plays for the commanders. I don't really think he's going to have any chance to see the field this year, but like, listen, Carson Wentz is bad.

Carson Wentz is bad and you can't hurt and gets hurt and you can't rule out the fact that the depth chart could change on a moment's notice. The Colts lost faith in Wentz last year. a lot of weird crap was going on. I don't think it's out of the question that in year two, Sam Hal could be in the mix in a training camp. I just don't know what this looks like at the NFL level, guys. Yeah, like I could see him in the mix, like competing with Heineke, you know, going into 2023. I mean, he's a Baker Mayfield clone. You watch him, and it's literally Baker Mayfield.

Honestly, dude, he might be in a training camp competition in Washington with Baker Mayfield in 2020. I think he can hang. I don't know if he's going to be a starter or anything, but I think he can hang. I do think with the type of offense they're going to have to run. I'm assuming it's going to look like the offense. The Colts were running was a big RPO offense. So maybe they're drafting him because they think, hey, if Wence does get hurt and Heineke isn't the guy that we want him to be, maybe this rookie can play in a pinch.

And I think if it's an RPO heavy offense, he can. I think any rookie quarterback can, but especially him because of the offense he played in at North Carolina. Any thoughts at all? And it's okay if you don't on any of the three seventh round quarterbacks, Chris Oledugan goes from South Dakota State goes to Pittsburgh. Scalar Thompson from Kansas State goes to Miami. Brock Purdy from Iowa State goes in the seventh round. Any thoughts on any of those guys?

I know there's some draft Twitter people that really love Skylar Thompson. I haven't watched him. I don't have any takes. Brock Purdy, sure, why not? I think he was worthy of a day three pick. I don't think he's ever going to be a starter, but I do think he's going to be around for 10 years as a backup. I think always take a flyer on a quarterback. Why not?

What was the Skylar Thompson justification? I missed this corner of draft Twitter. Yeah, there's like a couple people that really like them. I think Greg Cosell might like him. Cool. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I'm not convinced, but sure. Dude, Mike McDaniels coaching him up. Kansas State played Texas a few years ago, and I saw him play.

He was good back then. I'm surprised, like, he didn't develop. He's watched now? I mean, I haven't watched him play in two years. I'm not going to sit here and say, I watched Skyler. You're supposed to pretend like you've watched him. Bailey Zappy was the end of my draft scouting. I was like, that's all the quarterbacks I need to watch.

They were not good this year. Bailey Zappi got drafted. Ice Cube came on and Kaelin said this is the end of the draft from me. That's it. It was it. Guys, anything else? Can we talk about the punt god? What was he? Punter number four? Huge drop. Not even close. Not even close to the top punter taken.

Buffalo seems good. Yeah. Yeah, but now like people are kind of justifying why he slid and I'm reading these numbers and it makes sense. Like he's not, he just boots it really far and he doesn't really direct it. Is Roger Sherman on fraudwalk? Dude, Roger Sherman is on fraud watch. Also, Roger Sherman came up with the punt god nickname, if I'm not mistaken. And Matt kind of distanced himself from it today.

So just a huge, dude, Roger Sherman kind of going out sad here, to be honest with you. He does the winners losers, uh, column. Is he going to put himself in the loser? I need to shout out, uh, the C-Ox draft real quick. I forgot to do this. Cross. Muppet. Yeah, Moffick.

Kenneth Walker, who I quite like. Uh, Kobe Bryant. He was a good candidate once he started at Slop. applied to be a value. He also grew up hearing tales of the Legion of Boom, the lore. He can only hear stories. He'll pass down from generation to generation with the Legion of Boom. And then Tyreek Woolen, who is really intriguing prospect. Nice to take a flyer on him. This seems guys like an old school Seahawks draft. Just like, it really does. Take it a bunch of big guys who can play. I don't want to say the Seahawks are back, but they're not not back. And not drafting a

quarterback power move alpha move by them they're just like nope what were they going to do they got drew lock and gino smith and gino dude gino's winning that job man we're gno week one starter in 2022 i can't believe it but i but i love it as a one of the biggest members of gno nation i'm really excited me and gregg rosenthal on that uh on that hill guys thank you to chris sout and additional production supervision by arjuna ram kippal we will be back on monday doing a a big wrap up. Stephen, I think I'm, I'm going to make the call right here. Should we do how many teams to win the Super Bowl on Monday? Like, what are we waiting for? Life won't wait. Kobe Bryant's dad is telling him about the Legion of Boom. Like, this is,

seconds are ticking by. Life won't wait, brother. It's time. Monday, we're doing it. Nor is coming in. We're doing who can win the Super Bowl because we know the rosters. I guess, I mean, I guess you can make the case that once the comp pick deadline passes that, like, guys like the Honey Badger will sign places. There's no team. We're, signing the Honey Badger is going to switch them from not winning the Super Bowl to winning the Super Bowl. We're doing who can win the Super Bowl on Monday. It's done.

See you guys on. I'm treating the Odell report as Canon 2. So I'm going to assume Devo is a patriot for my picture. All right. Bye guys.