The Ringer NFL Show - Bold Predictions for Super Bowl LX With Nate Tice

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

Sheil is joined by The Ringer’s Billy Gil and Nate Tice from Yahoo Sports’ Football 301 show to talk about, analyze, and debate the players and moments they're predicting will prove pivotal in the outcome of Super Bowl LX.(2:12) Bold predictions for Super Bowl LX(2:52) Drew Lock(5:46) Drake Maye(11:52) Klint Kubiak(19:47) The Patriots(24:23) Mike Vrabel(25:49) Doug Baldwin(27:20) Jaxon Smith-NjigbaThe Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available.Host: Sheil KapadiaGuests: Billy Gil and Nate TiceProducer: Chris SuttonVideo: Cory McConnell and Stefano SanchezProduction Supervision: Conor Nevins and Arjuna Ramgopowell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ringer NFL show. I'm your host, Shield Capadio. We are doing bold predictions on the Super Bowl today. What is going to happen in this game? Some are serious. Some are silly. Then we go way off topic with our guest today, Nate Tice from Yahoo Sports. So we've got Nate on.

We've got Billy Gill from the Ringer. Let's take a break. We come back with our bold predictions. On the Ringer NFL show with Billy Gill and our guest today. We've seated him in the middle here. Nate Tice from Yahoo Sports. Tell all my friend. How are you guys doing?

Thank you for meet me in the middle here. It's great. It's great. We're doing well now. Billy, you have some information on me. I understand. We're slightly conflicted about this appearance, Nate, because we thought that this was just like a friendly thing, you know?

You wanted to come on, talk some football, Super Bowl Week, all that. And then we were handed this promotional sheet for you. And we have to come out here, and you're just being ushered around. We have to say, joining the show is Yahoo Sports NFL analyst and host of Football 301, Nate Tite. I did not know that. So it seems as though you're coming here with ulterior motives. It wasn't the intent.

But, you know, hey, hey, whatever gets my son, a new car for his birthday, you know, that helps him up. Three. I meant like a little toy car. Okay. I was going to say, Gene, what are they paying? You don't have. No, I'm buying my car 13 years in advance, you know, from when he turned 16. No, I actually noticed that I was like, who handed you that?

It was just like a little ghost appearance? No, this is a friendly appearance where I thought. I thought it was. Yeah, I thought so. I knew him way back when. Billy. Before you had a handler. Exactly. Before he was walking around with a little

espresso cup on Radio Row. Like Audrey DeGriot with a beer can. He had a nice little fancy backpack. I saw him in the elevator earlier. Very stylish. It looked good. No, it's okay. We still love Nate.

He's still our friend. But thank you for doing the promo. A friend for sale, it seems. Friend for sale. Yeah. Friends with a dollar sign. There you go. All right.

We're doing bold predictions today for Super Bowl 60. You know, you're trying to figure out different ways to talk about this game. I've got some serious ones. I've got some silly ones. But, Philly, you just kind of realized what the framing of the show was about 10 seconds ago. So I think we start with you because that'll be most entertained. Yeah, thank you.

Okay. All right. So in this playoff run, the Seahawks have looked incredible, obviously. Sam Darnold has looked great. Here's a bold prediction. Patriots figure Sam Darnold out. And by the third quarter, we have an Alabama, Nick Sabon, situation where they say, you know what, let's toss Drew Locke out there.

I think you say Kaltua. No. Can we trade for him, dude? Drew Locke comes out. Okay. And he figures out the Patriots, leads them to victory. And now you start asking once again, is this just who Sam Darnold is? I will say, well, I would say Kevin O'Connell would be the happiest man in America.

If that happens, he'd be like, come home, Sam. He's available again. You're ours. With the Vikings, he's calling, like, are you sure you wanted to fire me? Like, look, it didn't work out. That's right. Well, you know, I don't know if you know this, Billy. Nate Tice was a big Sam Darnold's guy when others were not.

I have a text from him before the season where he said, She'll, I'm with you on the Seahawks. And I go, no, no, no, no, I just think the Seahawks defense is going to be great. I don't buy Sam Darnold in the offense. And he said something like, you'll come around eventually. Now, because he is, you know, he's at this stage where he doesn't have to brag about those things anymore. A few years ago, he might have to run that in everyone's face. Yeah, yeah.

But, Nate, how do you think Sam Darnold's going to play? I mean, I don't know if you think that specific predictions in play, but how do you think he's going to play in this game? I kind of sort of when really looking at it is like the weakness, before I get to Sam, is the weakness of the Seahawks is the right guard in the center. And the strength of the Patriots is their defensive tackles. And where we see bad Sam is when he's under pressure at Todd. You got Milton Williams, Christian Barmore, Kairas Tonga,

going against, you know, Bradford and Sundell from the Seahawks. that is one thing, one path, like direct path that I could see Batsam coming out. Darnold this year, you know, the way where you can see even just outside explosive plays and the winds and everything is he's not scrambling as much ever as he ever has.

It's the fewest amount of scrambles he's had and a few amount of sacks that he's taken. And I think that just speaks to like how quickly he's giving the ball, how little few mistakes he's making. Little few. Sorry. But working out English here. It's not my first language.

Yeah, yeah. No, but when I look at it, it's just that the Patriarchs, have a couple things that make it hard on Donald. They're really good on third down. The Seahawks are actually pretty bad on third and long. They're the second worst offense. And the NFL on third and long,

Patriots are very good on third down. So there's just things that they can make his life tough. They blitz a tough. Patriots are one of the blitz happiest defenses. Going against a team that's now playing a backup running back that's poor in protection. Not backup runnerback. Kenneth Walker is a starter.

But a fact that wasn't out there for protection reasons. So there's just some things that you can maybe see bad Sam kind of cropping up, maybe a little more than people are anticipating. And that's when Drew Locke comes in. And that's when Drew Locke comes in the middle, you know, second drive of the third quarter. All right. Yeah, yeah.

I like, you know, when you do bold prediction shows, you got to go bold like that. I like that because if you would have, you know, I'm going to have some weak ones. Now I'm looking at mine going, mine aren't strong enough because no one's going to remember some of these. It's just like there's a special team's defensive touchdown. That's always, that's always the one.

That's always like the safety. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't have that, but I do have this. How about this is very weak. So get ready to make fun of it. Oh. Drake May is the leading rusher in this entire game.

No, you're not, you don't like that. I feel like it's happened already in the playoffs, right? He's been the leading rusher on his team. In the game, Billy. See, that's the key. That's wild. That's bold, dare I say. It wasn't bold.

Prediction or hypothetical. Here's the case here. I don't think either of these run games are going to be very good in this game. To your point, I think the Patriots defensive tackles against the Seahawks's interior line, edge Patriots. And then the other side of the ball, it's like people are looking at going, oh, the Rams ran on the Seahawks.

It's like the Rams had the best rushing offense in the NFL. Patriots aren't going to be doing that on them. So I don't think either team's going to run the football. Well, I think Josh, you got to empty out everything in this game if you're the Patriots, designed run game, quarterback draw, option runs, scrambles. You add all those up, Billy.

You're going to look at that box score at the end of the game and go, Sheal was right. I shouldn't have doubted him. Nate, what do you think? His rushing lines out like 38. It's very high. Yeah, yeah. And not for a bad reason.

It's because he's a great scrambler and everything. But no, I actually like that because maybe leading Russia actually looked at that prop. So that's funny you say it. But I agree with you. I think both run games, there's going to be a slog. It's going to be a war of two-yard gains. I think even by design from the Patriots, they're running, preferred running style, very at you, the duo run. That's the one run that the Seahawks aren't amazing at.

They're more average at. They're good against zone, all the other stuff. But those are two, three, four-yard games. Those aren't explosives. And then I think the Seahawks offense, the run game has been better. But it's Kenneth Walker taking a lot of touches. That's boom-bust. And it's going against a defense down early downs and with Milton Williams out there.

It's very good against the run. Really, just outside the opening script. I think the Seahawks have the advantage those first 15 plays, but can switch after that. Patriots defense really locks down. So I'm with you because one way you get after the Seahawks defense, push the ball and then scramble and create. That's what Drake Mae does. That's the whole game plan. They're not going to be stringing together, you know, 10-play drives against them.

I think one of the guys that had the most success was Cam Ward for the Titans, because he was willing to create, scramble, extend plays, and scramble a little bit. And that's, you know, Baker when he was running hot, same exact thing in the first month of the season. Trots out Drake May plays anyway. So I'm with you on this. That's one little thing you can pick out with the Seahawks defense. Now, that's one thing, Billy. I wrote 22 things. I was going to ask you because I did see my article on the Ringer.com?

I did see your 22 things. That was part of it. Drake May rushing. Okay. So I wonder if I got that far. No, probably not. I got like to like 18 or so. And like I thought 22 was a weird number.

Super Bowl 60. I was like 60 things sounds great. Well, I listen, your words, Nate, not mine. But it seems sometimes like six headed into seven. It was kind of like a similar topic. I was wondering how we did that exactly. You know, you're right. And when you feel like you're done with the thought,

you put the next number down. And then when you're done with that, you go to the next number. Yeah. And then when you feel like you have nothing else to say and your kids are making you feel guilty because you're about to leave for a week and you want to spend time with them, then you say, all right, this looks good to me because why do we have to do around numbers? But I'm wondering like-

I'm trying to be the change. I want to see in the content game. But like what Nate is saying, not my words, Nate's words. We're wondering here is like, was the number actually like 13 and you felt like that's not enough? So then we started kind of breaking up some of them. I thought it was like a football 22 thing. You know, he could have spun it that way.

Yeah. I know, but 22 is a little, it's a unique number for what you're trying to go for. Here's, you guys are proven my point. If I were they did in 25, we're not even talking about this. The only reason it's made the podcast is because I did a weird number like 22. I thought you just like BuzzFeed. You know, you're just going 13 things. Yeah.

There's 17 things. It's classic UShield. Just splashy headlines. I have every bet. Click, click, take it. If nothing else, I have every content move in the game master. Really?

You really do. Which is your ways. Well, I'm not going to put them on camera here. Why? Why? Talk gambling. Talk, talk, talk eagles.

Say J.1 Hertz once and you'll get clicks. Yeah, okay. I like that. Bold predictions. Bold predictions. Predictions is a good one. He found through SEO that 22. It's before 25.

So it comes up on the list a little bit quicker. It's almost hypothetical trade season. I'm just saying. I'll have some of those cut up for you. Do you have one? Just a quick one. It's NBA deadline. Well, no.

I don't have one for NBA. I do think Gino Smith, my question. quarterback the Vikings next year. What do you think about that? Oh. See? Content King, Billy. That's pretty fun. He doesn't like that. What's in Tyler, what are you think Kyle Renzo?

Are we sure he's going somewhere? Yeah. You are sure. Yeah. Is he going to the Jets? It kind of feels like it, doesn't it? No, the Jets are doing a quiet tank, which, not that Kyler's necessarily going to help. Yeah. I mean, the only person that doesn't know they're tanking is Aaron Glenn. Yeah, yeah. The front office knows that they're tanking. You know what's how many first rounders they have next year? They're like, yeah, yeah, let's make sure we.

And that's key for them, too. They're like just business as usual guys. Just doing it. It's your coaching staff here. Whatever you need to do, you know, make whatever changes you need. And then just checking it. How's Archmanning doing? Yeah.

On top of just this plug and obviously the friendship, I think that you came just to kind of like rub the Sam Darnold stuff in Shields' face. No. He started the season about Sam Darnold and now all of a sudden like, hmm, I told you so. Didn't you do like a Seattle show and they basically just made you flog yourself? Yeah, you know. They didn't mention that I said the Seahawks are going to have the best defense in the NFL. They're right over there, my friends at 710, ESPN, but they actually found the clip where I gave the Seahawks a C-minus for their office.

That's what happens. When you're just shock, chalk, chalk like you giving all your. bold prediction. I was getting great. That's another one. You're getting out grades for that. Yes. I was honored.

The master. I was honored by it. Do you have another bold prediction? Okay. Here's a bold prediction. The Seahawks win the Super Bowl. Clint Kubiak has a change of heart. And now he's no longer going to be the head coach of the Raiders.

They're left without a head coach because LaFleur went to Arizona. And now they're scrambling to find a new head coach. Okay. So what leads him to this change your heart? He just says, you know what? Seattle, we did this, we went through this, this one year of commitment I've given to this team, it's changed my life. Like, this is the place for me. I'm going to extend for one more year and then he decides not to go. He says, all the teams for sale, he finds out who the new owners are and he's like, oh, you know what, I could work with this. Okay. He's like, hey, the Mariners are supposed to be pretty good this year and I really want to go to T-Mobile much. walks around the fish market and stuff.

He's like, I like this place. That's another joke that one ran through. I was like the original Starbucks. I can just go right down right next to the fish market. Yeah, I mean, a beautiful facility. He's in Renton, right on the lake there. Maybe Pete Carroll's selling one of his wave runners. And he says, I'm not going to let, you know, perfect be the enemy of good.

I don't know that that applies here. But basically, the grass isn't greener. I think that's better. The grass isn't greener. Especially in the desert. In the desert. And I'm getting a nice raise here. And I'll wait my turn because we're going to be good next year again.

What do you think, Nate? Well, I think he's already going. So it's got an hard thing. I also think the Raiders actually, like, they're not going to be great next year, but actually, like, a little more to them than maybe you would think. You're concerned how much they stink? But the fact that all these teams are like, we don't have a quarterback, we don't have a head coach. All right, who you're interviewing?

Who's your quarterback? And all of them like, oh, we'll figure it out. But the Raiders that we saw like, okay, Kuwiak, pretty good answer. And then Mendoza. It's actually like, yeah. If they didn't have Mendoza coming out, actually, we'd actually be warned this a little bit. Bold prediction. It is bold.

Bold prediction. Mendoza gets arrested in the off season. They said this guy's too much of a bad boy. We can't gamble on him. Fernando or Alberto? You just said Mendoza. Are they going to be a package deal? Well, I think Albao left Indiana, right?

I know, yeah. He got to his brothers. Yeah, yeah. He left. I think he went to like Georgia Tech or something. Oh, okay. He went somewhere. I think he left.

What if he says, you know what? Signate, he's like, I got Fernando. Bye. I'm going to declare. I don't think you're eligible. I think you've only been in college for like a year or something. Yeah.

But Fernando, he's the one thing. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I like that. Was it like, oh, no. He seems like a good boy. Maybe he cheated on his taxes. Well, I think he used to say his test.

Oh. His LinkedIn is actually written by somebody else. Someone starts looking at his LinkedIn and they're like, hold on a second. There's some discrepancies there. This is not. You used AI to write that report to write that midterm. Wow. Maybe that's.

be an interesting scandal. I don't know that anyone would care. I don't know if the Yale Cal guy would also be the guy that would be like great for, actually maybe. There's pretty if you went to Yale and end up jail. Yeah, with some great stuff. Yeah. Ivy leaguers are not above the law.

Well. They don't know that I agree with that. Depends what we're pushing for it. All right. Depends what judge they go to. Flynn Kubiak returns to Seattle. You heard it here first. Yeah.

This is like your version of the Sam Darnold thing. Yeah. If now he goes back, we can say you called it. Yeah. But it won't be me promoting football 301. I'll just calm to rub it in your face. That's what you have to say. That take was presented by.

Yeah, by Football 301. Which you can find on all your fast channels right now. Let's take a break. We come back and I want Nate to give us something he's chewing on maybe a bold. But you got anything for us, Nate? I do. You do. All right.

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Great head of hair. Oh, thank you. Because I thought you were coming for my corner, the hat guy at the ringer. I mean, he does have a very nice hat collection. Is that your thing? Well, in my head it is. You're known as the hat guy. Yeah.

And so, you know, I would think you with that nice head of hair like, Nate, why are you going hat so often? I don't know. I've just gotten used to have a lot of hats. I actually came here with the intention of buying a hat, which is going to be super super expensive. Super Bowl centric or San France centric or anything like that? That's where I'm conflicted.

Maybe you can help me out with this because you're a big guy now at Yahoo. So should I go Super Bowl-centric or San Francisco? Like, do I want a Giants hat? Because this is football, so I feel like it should be more Super Bowl-centric, right? But the 49ers, like, it doesn't be big. You don't need to be putting money in Rogers' pocket. Really? Does he get a cut of everything?

Yeah. Maybe San Francisco Seals. Oh. Who are they? That was Joe DiMaggio's team. Okay. That's what I'm talking about. That's the kind of hat you need.

Okay. I was going to get a lot. I was thinking maybe just getting like an NFL hat, a Super Bowl hat, like, at a store. It'll probably be so expensive. Oh, yeah. We are $80. That's a thing. Rob Lowe kind of like the shield is his thing, so I can't do that. There's some conference hats now, AFC NFC. I saw that.

That actually might be the answer. But do I want to commit to a conference? I know. They need a visual ones. So you go like, oh, I'm an AFC East guy. Yeah. You see somebody else with AFC East hat? Yeah. I was opening a can of worms.

Yeah, I could talk. If you want to talk hats, we can do it. Is it because you had to do a lot of morning shows that you maybe are a hat guy? I mean, part of it is I normally don't comb my hair. It's usually like somewhat unkempt, you know? I was thinking I need to get a haircut before I come, but I was like, I think I can make this work. I'll just put on a hat.

But the hat that I brought was too tight. So there's a line across my head. So I basically have to decide in the morning. Am I committing to this hat? Because I have to wear it all day, or am I going to Sands hat? And today I said, you know what? My shirt has a collar. I'm going to go no hat today.

You look great. Yeah, thanks. Were you a shaved head guy ever before? I was a shaved head guy like high schoolish in summers. You'd shave your head because it's hot. I'm down in Florida. So like shave my head for the summer. He'd grow back.

It'd be kind of like weird. School wouldn't let me shave my head too much. Okay. Yeah, strict rules. All right. Okay, so that's why I think I've always was a hack guy because I hate worrying about the hair. So you should be shave it.

We're good. We're good. Don't even have to worry. Did you shave your head? I used to. I used to be like a number two or number one all the way around. So now like full on, like, you know, stone cold. And what happens?

He got hired by you. Oh, that's right. We're not there. I'm sorry. Yeah. I looked at my dad, who's bald, and I was like, all right, I should enjoy my hair while I have it. So, like, so far it's been okay. And they're like, you know, I have the hair right now.

But I always wear a hat anyways. I always say it's because I have to do podcasts in the morning. I'm too lazy. You're both doing great. Yeah. Yeah, you're both doing great. All this hair discussion. I was like, I'm not sure that's going to make it into this show.

Oh, yeah. You're not talking about chatting one on a one. But I do think you made... Chatting 101. I like this. Oh, hey, hey, hey. You made progress in terms of the friendship. Yeah, gotcha.

I felt like that. It felt like an organic friend conversation. Right there. Nate, give us a bold prediction. What do you got? Patriots win. Oh, ho! I think that's bold enough.

Four and a half point on your dogs. Yeah, four and a half point dogs, okay? I think they have a lot of what I like to say natural answers. Like, they don't have to change much to, like, have an advantage in some ways against the, against the Seahawks. The weakest part of the whole entire Seahs team, we talked about is the right guard in the center. And the strength of the Patriots is their interior defense alive. That can discombobobulate Darnold.

I think May, how he plays, this is how you go against that defense. I think the special teams advantage that the Seahawks have against so many teams, including the Rams and 4-9ers, is kind of, I wouldn't say neutral, but mitigated a little bit because the Patriots are pretty good on special teams as well. So I just think that there is a, there are more of a live dog than I think they're getting credit for, which actually I know the Seahawks look like a juggernaut. Don't get me wrong, but the Patriots schedule thing, like they play in the ACC, oh, is there's a front of, yeah, or the Big 12, is that also that's getting brought up.

It's the NFL. Yeah, that to me, yes, there are differences with that, but it's not as drastic as I think it's going to be made out to be. We've got a week of bye weeks. I think the Patriots, again, just have some things that can be able to get after Darnold, stuff the run game, make it a slog, turn into like that 2016 type of game, 17-13 type of game. Now, my question is this, because, you know, we have. are in the business of rooting for our own takes now. Correct.

Now, you have that Sam Darnel take out there. Yeah. But now you're picking the Patriots to win. Is this a hedge? Because I do think if the Patriots win, either Drake May puts the team on his back or Sam Darnel kind of turns into a pumpkin. I'd be like one of those two things that has to happen for the Patriots to win. So which way?

How do you do that? You're rooting for your takes. Which take is stronger? I think it's more just like, I think the other parts, the non- Drake May parts, I've kind of gotten underrated. Okay. All right. Their defense has gotten

kind of underrated. After the opening scripts, after those first 15 plays, they're the best defense in the NFL. They adjust better than anybody. They're higher marks than the Cioxx do after the opening script.

And one of the best defenses as well. So not only just the, but Drake Mae's style is how you have to beat the Ciox. That's more what it is. It's not a style of defense. I'm like, oh man, this is really going to give them issues.

They're baiting them into these throws. It's actually how May wants to push the ball. May wants to create and scramble. okay, that's what you have to do against the Seahawks. So there is a little bit of kind of, I honestly thought I knew I'd be maybe on the low end or of how many people are picking the Patriots. Now I've done about all these shows,

and everyone goes, you're the first one to say that. It does feel that way, which is not great, yeah. Right. And that's also fading the public is a little bit. Right, yeah. It's kind of, I don't know, that's a little worrisome to me that everyone's just going, oh, Seahawks are a juggernaut. It's like six weeks ago, people were going like, Sam Darnold ain't in.

And I was one of the few people going like, he is. And then now I'm going, never mind. No, it's nothing against the Ciox. They are the better team. Do not give me wrong. It's just that the Patriots are closer to them that I think they're getting credit for. It does feel like there's a little recency bias,

even in my own head, where I'm like, you know what, Drake May is kind of stunk in the playoffs, but there's been weather, there's been shoulder, there's been game script, and if we just zoom out, I'm like, I had him as my MVP this year. So should I, I shouldn't wait too much into these three games, but I can't help it.

I can help what my eyes just saw. The Texans game is the one, how I almost can feel for their offense where it was a lot of tough drives. Hopefully they learned to help out Will Campbell. But I think it's that those drives that they had, like they had one to Stefan Diggs were they able to sustain some plays.

But then it came down to second half with them just trying bombs. And they finally connected on the one to booty. But I think that's the exact same style of this game's going to be for this offense. It's not going to be like, oh my God, the Patriots just dropped 55% success rate. We're going nuts with EPA numbers.

I think it's going to be more like 40%, but they hit six explosives. And you know what they're going to be? They're going to be those plays where you go, he was covered. Camp now, defensive back was right there. Because those are the plays that Drake May and they've made all year long, where it's like it's not like the wide receivers beating the guy by three yards. It's just like great throw, tough degree of difficulty catch, and they make it.

So I think that's possible. Yeah, that's just the angle up kind of. Okay. The fan fiction, the fantasy booking, as they say in wrestling, that's why I have my. You're setting yourself up to be right no matter what. You know what I mean? You're right on the Sam Darnold thing before the season. Professional take out.

I'm so proud uncle. It's our friends. Fantastic. With the dollar sign. Billy, I've got some more bullet predictions. You got any? No, I want to hear yours.

I want to learn from the master. Okay. Give me like props. All right. That's what I want. Okay. So, well, all right. No, get to yours.

You want a football one or like a not, like just an off the wall one? Oh, wow. Wow. Okay. Wow. Lay your hair down here. What's going on?

How about a player will get ejected in this game? You know, everyone's, oh, they're so well coached and they're so disciplined. But how about this? Everyone's giving Vrabel the game management edge. He takes a look at that Seahawks defense and says, they're tough. We got to get one of those guys out of there. Matt Collins, come over here. Yeah? See Rick Woolen over there? Do you see what he did in the championship game? We're going to get under his skin a little bit. Maybe he throws a

punch. He gets ejected. Now all of a sudden they're short-handed on defense. And then you know what happens if the Patriot's twin. All the stories come out. Rabel showed us this clip on the Thursday before we left Foxborough. No, a check disciple. It's the lore of Mike. It's the lore of Mike. Brable and this has only happened once the players gotten injected in the Super Bowl. Okay. Bruce Irvin. Last time Yes. At the end. At the end when the Seahawks were just like we are not dealing

with the sea, they couldn't deal with the fact they lost in that manner. We're like, we're just going to fight them. So are you sacrificing Mac or you're sending Mac out there to be an agitator to get someone at a lot? It's what they always say on the broadcast. They catch the second night. So much for the Panthers in your brain. Yeah, just trying to figure this out. I heard from people that were at the game,

the woolen celebration along the sideline. They say TV copy did not do it justice to what it looked like in person. They say that he was celebrating up the sideline for 30 yards. That he went down the sideline to talk crap to the Rams sideline. Hey, I agree.

Hey, Brable's going to be pushing these buttons. There's going to be something on that. I love that. That's a nice fun ball take. That's one. And the other one here is someone honors the Doug Baldwin Poopin' Celebration. Do you remember this?

I forgot about this. Is it with the ball? With the ball. Yeah. I just think of the moth. Moon. Yeah. And then the white. This was the follow-off. Yeah. So Doug Baldwin against the Patriots, last time they played Billy, I don't know if you remember this. He took the football, Ben over, and acted like he was pooping the football. And the whole and the broadcast was so

horrified that they cut away. God forbid anyone see this. Now, I was analyzing this film earlier. Nate analyzes the all 22. I analyzed this all two. All two. Only germane curse came over. And so Doug Baldwin got the penalty. But I think if they have some time to, kind of work this out and get more people involved if it's a group celebration. I don't think he gets flagged and they can honor Doug Baldwin. Really? Yeah. Okay.

Do you think it's more likely they honor Doug Baldwin or they honor Marshawn Lynch? The groin jump. Yeah. I was debating between the two. You're in my head. So I don't know. All right. Because they did what the Seahawks do, didn't they have a game this year where they did

double groin jumps? I think it was against the Cardinals. Remember they were scorching them in the first quarter, second quarter. It was like 44-0. I think they did the double cross jump. So it's in their DNA. Now he kind of. went there, but it didn't go all the way, that would have been a good social

clip if he stood up and did the big groin. He can't. He can't do it now. I did like there. There was a pun there, the D&A. So it's like, yeah, that was how I went for a lot. Okay. So those are... You get the D? Yeah, I know, right. You know what he's on. Yeah. He's doing it.

Yeah. He's doing it. I have Yahoo! My last football one is this. Now, Nate's not going to like this one based on who he picked, but what if JSN breaks Jerry Rice's record for most receiving yards in a Super Bowl? 215. Was that all?

It's right. It's right. I was looking at it. The Patriots. Everyone likes the Patriots corner. Except the Steve Young game. It was Bengals. Was that younger, Montana?

I think that was Montana. That was Montana. The record's 215, so he has to get 216. He has to get two. That's crazy. 215. I had to have 214. I had to have 214 and a half of my idea.

I don't know about this. You know, everyone likes the Patriots corners. They've got good players. Christian Gonzalez, Carlton Davis. Do you know they're 31st in DVOA against number one receivers? So they play man coverage. Jackson Smith and Jigba kills man coverage. He needs like 150 yarder to be in play for this.

What do you think? Neither are you like it. Just move on. I could tell by your faces. He needs more than 150 yarder to be in play for this. You think so? It's got to be a banan. So like 12 catches, each one going for 15 plus.

Like, you know, like, it's got to be a, it's got to be a steady die. Well, that's, I know I'm being rejected when I'm being rejected. You're being bold. Yeah. And yeah, sometimes we can't handle both. Yeah. I think when I'm curious if Brable and them and the Patriot staff have like a little curveball against Jason. What's the plan?

What do you think the plan is against Jason? A little one double, one double 11, which is when they truly double team. There's the infamous quote Bill Belichick talking to Chad Ocho Cinco. It's called one double-85. All it is, it's the classic Belichick game plan. Brian Flores still uses it is that they double team your number one. Then they have their second best corner on your number two or their best corner on their number two. but it's kind of fun.

The Patriots, they could double-team J.S.N. And then it creates, okay, all right, Cooper Cup, Rashichy with Carlton Davis or Christian Gonzalez. But it turns into like, all right, we're making the other guys beat us. And on the offense, it turns into shot plays because that's the one way to beat it. You have to do double moves to beat it.

So it creates more of a boom-buss offense than maybe the Seahawks want to be. So that's, I don't know, that's in the back of my head has been something that might be the curveball. Now, with the way they line him up, is that harder to do? They have rules. Yes, but they have rules.

The backfield. would be the one. Yeah. And Kubiak has shown that he puts Jason in the back build. That's the one little change up that can give it issues. Okay. But also it's like that's, and that's what the learning curve is for those DVs. It's like, all right, if he's in the slot, where are the rules?

So if he's out here, we're over rules. But that's part of like the makeup of that. They got a buy week. They have to have done something. They have to. But every team's been saying this all year. And he's still had an incredible year. They can't just take it on the chin.

That's how I look at it. Do you have any more bold predictions? We're good. No, you have a prop you like? Do you have any Nate? Let's look at props. I looked at props for me last night. I like the unders, basically, on the running backs.

Unless you're giving me a Kenneth Walker longest run. Nope. No, you don't even like that one. I'm right there with you for Milton Williams, 2 plus sex, it's plus 1100. All right, so if a defensive player wins MVP, who do you think it is? Maybe Milton. Okay. Yeah.

DeMarcus Lawrence on the C-Ox? Actually, that's literally words on my mouth. Or, yeah, but then you're getting into Malcolm, what's his face? Smith. Yeah. You got to get a piece. pick six on a lucky linebacker thing. That's the only other way.

But the thing was Josh Sweat took over last year and Milton Williams had a great game. And they didn't get it because I gave it to the quarterback. So it's very hard in this day and age, unless the quarterbacks are just throw for 150 and do nothing. But yeah. I was trying to find some plus money ones that I like.

How about the fullback for the fullback, Jack Westover for the Patriots. Over half a receiving yard is plus 280. That is pretty exciting, though. That's, that's one. That gets me going. Hey, you see that ball out to the fullback. I'll be freaking out about it.

Plus two idiots, plus money, just to catch one fast. Yeah. I don't know. I like that. That's someone that's on my mind because I think that's how they're going to use. They get the fullback out there. All right. Let's finish with this because when Nate predicted that the Patriots were going to win, I thought,

like how does the football viewing populace react to that? If the Patriots after having just, you know, they won, they have a few down years, and now they're back on top winning the Super Bowl. Are we in full, every neutral fan hates the Patriots again? Or are we like, well, May and Fraval kind of aren't that bad?

I mean, May, what is there to really, you know? Is he hateable, Billy? Drake May. Can people find a way? I think we can get there with him. I think we can hate him. Yeah, he's too pure. He loves his wife too much.

They have a cooking show. We've been together since elementary school. We get it. You found love. You're such a great quarterback. Yeah. You're kind of a, everyone has a skeleton kind of person. Yeah.

Or just want him to. You know what I mean? He doesn't even need to have one, but I could just be like, I don't like you. You're too perfect, you know? Some people say that about Josh Allen, too. Yeah. It's like he kind of, well, no, I'm just, I'd just say from a neutral fan. If you would guess, what do you want, what do you want his downfall to be?

That he's actually jealous about his wife. Really? Wow. Because he hides are great. He gives all the great answers, and it seems very natural. I think he's supposed to be a great guy. So it's like, and he has a great relationship, too. But that would be the funny one that he actually is sneakily jealous.

He's about to have a kid. You're trying to break up this marriage, have broken at home. What's wrong with you? Jeez. He has a nice job at Yahoo. Yeah. Okay?

And you're trying to get some kind of clip that's going to get him in trouble. No falseness. And some kind of cancellation. We don't want that. Then other people are not going to come on our show. Yeah. Okay.

So, all right. But he came on for the wrong reasons. He came on. He came on. I know. See, plug again. Yeah. Hey.

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